========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 06:15:37 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: sgf file editor for 100lx Ed Lomax: >main reason I wanted a palmtop was to record/edit 'go' >(japanese/chinese board game) games=2E I have found an sgf file >Anybody know of one? hi Ed down-under All Go programs are commercial=2E I have "Hand Talk" (97k DOS or 127k Win), "Many Faces of Go" (310k) and "Go Simulator" (466k) as DOS programs all work on the 100LX anyone know of where to download sgf recorded games? nice surfin down-under this summer? Wishing you a memorable and rewarding next circle round sol=2E =DA=C4=C4=C4=01=02=C4=C4=C4=BF =B3 2001 =B3 =C0=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=D9 ,-,-=2E =2E =2E =2E ` | | ,-=2E |- |-=2E ,-=2E | =2E ,-=2E | |-=2E ,-| | | | ,-| | | |-' ,' `-' `-¬ `' ' ' `-¬ `' ' `-' ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 08:29:48 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Petty Family Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Petty Family Subject: Re: Scott Moore and business on HPLX-L Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I've learned my lesson... In an earlier posting, I mentioned a purchase of a name brand card from a reputable vendor (for $10 more... includes compact flash adapter and 10megs more memory). And no, I was not wanting a refund... just some break on the replacement. >From: Barry >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry > >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: Scott Moore and business on HPLX-L >Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 09:07:55 -0600 > > > I have purchased a 20MEG flash card from > > Scott. After approximately 6 months of use > > in my 200lx, it died. I did try to rectify the > > problem and was told to purchase another > > card for full price. I bought a compact flash > > card from another reputable vendor. I am not > > one to complain... I thought that it's death was > > one of those unfortunate circumstances in the > > life of the 200lx. After reading some of the > > discussion on this list, my oversight might have > > been pre-mature. Just an FYI. > >I don't think the vendor could be considered responsible for a used >card that only lasted 6 months. Sure, we hope used things will last >longer, but we take that chance. That's why the price is reduced. > >I don't think I'd ask a vendor of used merchandise to take >responsibilty for it after 6 months unless there was some specific >agreement about that at purchase. > >Barry > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:13:41 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx In-Reply-To: <006b01c073b4$347ba5c0$de85fcc1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 1 Jan 2001, at 6:15, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > > Subject: sgf file editor for 100lx > > Ed Lomax: > >main reason I wanted a palmtop was to record/edit 'go' > >(japanese/chinese board game) games. I have found an sgf file > >Anybody know of one? > > hi Ed down-under > > All Go programs are commercial. I have "Hand Talk" (97k DOS or 127k > Win), "Many Faces of Go" (310k) and "Go Simulator" (466k) as DOS > programs all work on the 100LX now here's a question I forgot to ask - even given that these may work on the dos on the 100lx - how do you get around the screen being so many pixels smaller? I've seen a guy using PilotGone once and was really looking for something similar where the whole board is displayed at the same time. Still all this is useless to me unless I can work out how to access dos on the thing. > anyone know of where to download sgf recorded games? one of the best site for all go related stuff is the BGA (british go assoc) website at http://www.britgo.org/index.html > nice surfin down-under this summer? hot!! 39C for new years day (about 102F for you cavemen types) Not much surf (water based) where I am at as in a large bay where waves just don't get big enough to make it worthwhile. Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 11:04:09 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Olde software idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nathalie, > > If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human race has = not > achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word would = be > "meetings." ... and "action plans" which is especially famous with the Americans and the French ;-) HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 11:04:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Unresponsive keys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi, my 200LX seems to have some unresponsive keys like "Q", "left = arrow", > "full stop" and a few others. I need to press them harder Wonder if I = can > spray WD40 or some such thing on the keys to improve contact? One reason for this might be dirt on the keyboard - Ted Heise explained in another post on how to deal with it. The other reason is dirt or missalignment of the flat film connector area inside the palmtop. If you are not too scary you might open the palmtop and clean this area with a dry cloth (make a backup before you open the case). HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 04:01:40 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: New and improvd ultra goodie Comments: To: "R.S." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Roja will they let yu stick in the LX and play with it???? yor pal al............... BTW will be there in March if yu wanna stop by Dan Ryans. ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:28:11 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Re: Happy New Year Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20001230192819.00a071b0@pop.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thank you !! Also from my side happy new year to all lx-users from Germany !! -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of A Meshar Sent: Sonntag, Dezember 31, 2000 4.30 Uhr To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Happy New Year At the risk of incurring the wrath of all the retro-vegan-nordic-franco-atheist sentimentalists here I just want to wish you all a Happy New Year! :) Avi Meshar ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:47:41 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: data of last modification MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit does anybody from the list know how to check the last change (date) in the phone.pdb file ?? I obviously can't do it from the built in application like the data manager any idea ?? Thanks for help. Michael ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:50:51 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Re: Olde software idea Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud In-Reply-To: <00af01c072f6$32500480$b485fcc1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie, very good points, Michael Berrier -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Nathalie Bugeaud Sent: Sonntag, Dezember 31, 2000 7.36 Uhr To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Olde software idea yor pal al..wrote: >Why don't wee set up a national user's meating, say at the next (CHI) >spring KOMDEX and trade software? will you help with my air-fare to have my meat there? >Everybody bring some olde DOS software. "oldeDOS" is tiny - why can't you zip it and attach it to e-mail? ....or is there a reason for having lots of "meat" in one place? The three main activities during a meeting: 1. sound like you know everything 2. stay awake 3. try to determine why you are there If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human race has not achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word would be "meetings." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:21:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Need help using Turbo C's linker Comments: To: curtis j brown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 00:27:59 MST, curtis j brown wrote: > > Sorry to bother everyone. I'm trying to write a program using Turbo C > v2.0. Do you have multiple source code files? If you have only one, then you don't need a project file when you use the integrated environment. If you have only one source code file and you get an "undefined variable" message then perhaps you have not specified the *.h files correctly. The syntax must be exactly correct. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:18:47 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: PCMCIA Modem Cables MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I noticed that the special PCMCIA modem cable from the 57.6K modem I recently purchased from Thaddeus matches exactly the one I use on my work laptop computer. Have I been extremely lucky? Or is there a "standard" of some sort for these cables? I was under the impression that these "dongles" are custom and differ from mfr to mfr. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:46:54 MST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , curtis j brown Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: curtis j brown Subject: Re: Need help using Turbo C's linker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 13:55:07 -0600 Evan Person writes: > Here would be a sample "main.prj" file: > > main (main.h) > sub (main.h) Thank you again. This helps out quite a bit. Now I can compile and debug in the same place. -- Curtis Brown =8) mrbrown8@juno.com ("Eat at Juno's") RFC2468 A+, Net+, CCNA ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:03:24 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Happy New Year Comments: To: awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM wrote: > I read somewhere that in 1531 or so the then Pope > took out 11 days and some hours out of the calendar. It happened in October 1582 by Pope Gregory; that's why the current calendar is called the Gregorian calendar. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 12:17:11 MST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , curtis j brown Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: curtis j brown Subject: Re: Need help using Turbo C's linker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:21:19 -0500 Victor Roberts writes: > Do you have multiple source code files? If you have only one, > then you don't need a project file when you use the integrated > environment. If you have only one source code file and you get > an "undefined variable" message then perhaps you have not > specified the *.h files correctly. The syntax must be exactly > correct. Well, sorta. I'm borrowing some public domain code that was written in assembly. Luckily for me, it included object files of various memory files and a .H file. So in my program, I just wanted to make certain calls, but I was having problems linking everything together. BTW: Happy New Year's everyone! -- Curtis Brown =8) mrbrown8@juno.com ("Eat at Juno's") RFC2468 A+, Net+, CCNA ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 14:26:03 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Need help using Turbo C's linker Comments: To: curtis j brown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit curtis j brown wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 10:21:19 -0500 Victor Roberts > writes: > > Do you have multiple source code files? If you have only one, > > then you don't need a project file when you use the integrated > > environment. If you have only one source code file and you get > > an "undefined variable" message then perhaps you have not > > specified the *.h files correctly. The syntax must be exactly > > correct. > > Well, sorta. I'm borrowing some public domain code that was written in > assembly. Luckily for me, it included object files of various memory > files and a .H file. So in my program, I just wanted to make certain > calls, but I was having problems linking everything together. If it is written in assembler make sure that the routines written in assembler are callable from Turbo C. And that the object files are compatible with the Turbo C linker. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 14:42:13 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Fluff - Happy New Year Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russel Brooks wrote: > awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM wrote: > > I read somewhere that in 1531 or so the then Pope > > took out 11 days and some hours out of the calendar. > > It happened in October 1582 by Pope Gregory; that's why the current > calendar is called the Gregorian calendar. Actually I heard somewhere (years ago) that the birth of Christ actually occurred about 3 years away (forgot which direction) from 0 AD of the modern calendar and that Christ was actually born in current calendar October some time. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 12:51:41 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Happy New Year Comments: To: rlbrooks@pobox.com In-Reply-To: <200101011403195.SM00285@prserv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Russ, Thanks, I had the wrong date, that is the change I meant... >It happened in October 1582 by Pope Gregory; that's why the current >calendar is called the Gregorian calendar. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 12:47:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Happy New Year Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-V In-Reply-To: <002301c073af$0b6f79e0$e3e8fea9@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >I don't usually meddle with far-out fluff, but just a little clarification. >The change of the calendar took place because the calendar was not >keeping up with the seasons and the sun. As a result of that and other >changes, the current calendar is only off by minutes or perhaps hours. I dunno... I do simple addition: Each day since some mythical year zero, days were added to the previous, and the result came to some years and months. Now you are saying the calendar was adjusted and it is finally closer to the truth. Is it? You mean the day by counting was faulty? (I don't mean to add the issue of chad here in any way ) ... How can that be? Oh, you mean the way the calendar was structured was incorrect. Ok, I buy that. still I maintain that if you defined 1 year to be 12 months and x days within a month, than can you really change the definition in the middle of the count? (Again, despite appearances, I am uninterested in dragging the US Presidential Election issues into discussion here..) If you change the definition - and it was changed many times over the past 2000 years, then you haven't got a prayer of being accurate in terms of measuring the age of anyone over the period of time in question. So this leads to the inevitable conclusion that although our current calendar is accurate within seconds per year, the period of time elapsed over the past 2000 years is really not accurately measured by the tool we used at this moment. I.e. - we are not necessarily measuring the millenium. BTW, since I measure from zero, and you may use 1 as the origin year, are we now in the second or third millenium? >I understand the current system will be significantly out of wack with the >seasons in a few hundred years, so the question is how to keep our palmtops >running that long. :-) I don't know about the inaccuracy, but it is really small. I can recommend a great book called "Calendar, by David Ewing Duncan. It is a fascinating explanation of the shenanigans humans have performed counting days. Accodring to Duncan, 2000 is: - 1997 according to the Christ's actual birth at circa 4 BC - 2753 according to the old Roman calendar - 2749 according to the ancient Babylonian calendar - 6236 by the Egyptian calendar - 5760 according to the Jewish calendar - 1420 according to the Moslem calendar - 1378 according to the Persian calendar - 1716 according to the Coptic calendar - 2544 according to the Buddhist calendar -5119 in the current Maya great cycle - 208 according to the calendar of the French Revolution - The year of the Dragon according to the Chinese calendar All this needs adjustment by a year, of course... Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:28:45 0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , alchoma@IS.LT Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Algis Ch." Subject: Time tracking again.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, HP "terorists!" At first: Happy or Lucky (to your will) New Year! Bracking my head for a long time with the time tracking problem :( Here, in Lt, our access to Inet is twice charged: by Phone company and by= ISP. Phone company charges by 3 different daily tariffs on workdays and 2 tari= ffs on weekends & holydays. All of them are rounded to the next biggest minute -= f.e. - 1 min. & 50 seconds are counted as 2 minutes - the same will be 1 minut= e & 1 sec. =3D 2 minutes too. The ISP uses 2 tariffs for all days - daytime tariff & night time tariff = which is 3 times less than that of daytime. So my goal is to get all dialup connections in Hole minutes rounded to th= e next biger one. And then in calculations to use those tariffs. Tried GenDatabase. Field are: Date; Phone #; Start_time - time field; End= _time - time field; Length - number field; Cost - number field; Whom - text fie= ld; Category - where are ISP, local & so on; "Peak - box; in it radio butons:= Peak, middle, No; last field - Note field. Here I met strange behavor of "time" field. In "form view" - detailed, wh= en Fn+. Generates time WITHOUT seconds and with irritating beep. In list vie= w seconds are shown but all are Zeros, what does not add anything to mine g= oal. So I those "time" fields made as "text" - now it accepts seconds too, but "length" calculations has to be performed in mind, then go to solver wher= e use selfcreated equation to get the calls price. Long and somehow confusing way. Then tried Lotus. Created some Macros for Date and Time input. Another fo= rmula counts difference between End_time & Start_time - and I get it in format: 0:28:43. OK, after studying manuals I used there (@HOUR(C5)*60+@MINUTE(C5= ))*T5 -SO here are the cost. Here I met with other problem - how to use "IF" or other stuff to evaluat= e starting time and according to it use one tariff, or second or the third. Can here be some "Work around"? I don't think that Lithuanian Telecom is using for it "very special" soft= ware :) And I have not enough brain to solve it :o( Any questions, hints, advices, comments? TIA. PS.Pardon for poor English and I think that you understood the problem an= d maybe even solved it long ago. Cheers ! Algis mailto:alchoma@is.lt ________________________________________________________________ This message was created on HP100LX palmtop using Lotus cc:Mail=A9 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 22:52:01 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Fluff - Happy New Year Comments: To: Evan Person MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Evan Person wrote: > > awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM wrote: > > > I read somewhere that in 1531 or so the then Pope > > > took out 11 days and some hours out of the calendar. > > > > It happened in October 1582 by Pope Gregory; that's why the current > > calendar is called the Gregorian calendar. > > Actually I heard somewhere (years ago) that the > birth of Christ actually occurred about 3 years > away (forgot which direction) from 0 AD of the > modern calendar and that Christ was actually > born in current calendar October some time. That is quite possible but it wasn't the purpose of the 1582 correction. The church was having an increasing problem calculating the date of easter with the physical year. (I don't remember the exact problem but it is easily researched.) The FAQ referenced below is interesting. It is posted to news.answers; a great ng to follow (download headers only!) to find interesting reading. Cheers... Russ ........................................................................ Subject: Calendar FAQ, v. 2.3 (modified 25 Sep 2000) Part ... 2.2. What is the Gregorian calendar? ------------------------------------ The Gregorian calendar is the one commonly used today. It was proposed by Aloysius Lilius, a physician from Naples, and adopted by Pope Gregory XIII in accordance with instructions from the Council of Trent (1545-1563) to correct for errors in the older Julian Calendar. It was decreed by Pope Gregory XIII in a papal bull on 24 February 1582. This bull is named "Inter Gravissimas" after its first two words. ... 2.2.4. When did country X change from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The papal bull of February 1582 decreed that 10 days should be dropped from October 1582 so that 15 October should follow immediately after 4 October, and from then on the reformed calendar should be used. ........................................................................ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:02:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Thomas Rundel Subject: Re: Fluff gas prices MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I think I don't get it. Why should the size of a country be a justification of low gas prices? Do you propose that gas prices should be proportional to the size of the country ;-) instead of being determined by the cost of production and distribution, which should be almost the same in Europe and the U.S.? Don't get my wrong - I'm not saying that your gas prices are too low. But I'm saying that European gas prices are way too high, due to the horrendous amount of taxes which European governments are collecting from car drivers. If I recall correctly, more than three quarters of the German gas price are taxes. And they are not even building sufficient roads with all that money. :-( Tom On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 14:38:54 -0500, Steve Carder = wrote: > > I have to put in a word about petrol prices here. How you guys in = the US > > can complain about $2 a gallon is beyond me. Most of Europe is = paying > > around $8 a gallon - now *that* is outrageous! > > But, you people in Europe can drive accross an entire country on one = tank of > gas. Last month I drove 250 mi (400 km) one way to visit my in-laws = and didn't > even leave my state. Driving from New York to Los Angeles is farther = then > driving from Lisbon to Moscow. > > Steve Carder > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml _________________________________ _____________________________ | OOO Rundel Datentechnik | Voice: +49-7161-15687-0 OOO Dipl.-Inform. Thomas Rundel | Fax: +49-7161-15687-11 OOO Rappenstr. 20 | Cellphone: +49-172-7326211 73033 Goeppingen | E-Mail: info@rundel.net Germany | Web: www.rundel.net _________________________________|_____________________________ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:58:18 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Organization: Oslonett! Subject: Fluff: Nathalie. Well, actually she seems a little spikey at times... Guess what the female Name of the Day in Norway was the other day? Nathalie... Which apparently is derived from the Latin dies natalis, Jesus' birthday. br Franklin :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:21:20 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: memo question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone, Warning, pardon me if I use some of the terms wrongly. I would like to use the built in memo program in the HP200LX to compose my email messages. However, whenever memo wraps around, it does not add a linefeed (not sure if that's the right term) after every line. The consequence to this is when friends email me back, the reply prefix only shows up on every new paragraph (instead of before every new line). Is there a menu option to turn this feature on? If memo does not have the line feed feature, can anyone suggest an EXM compliant alternative text processor? Using a dos text processor is not an option since my only dos window in sys manager would already be in use and I need to switch between memo, phonebook and the database programs for data. Times like this, make me wish I have a copy of software carousel. Happy New Year, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:21:24 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R.S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R.S." Subject: Re: New and improvd ultra goodie Comments: To: hobchi@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al Chin, I didn't try it on my LX. I'm not that adventurous. Besides, that thing cost over 5k HK, I believe. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "hobchi" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "R.S." Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 8:01 PM Subject: Re: New and improvd ultra goodie > Roja > will they let yu stick in the LX > and play with it???? > > yor pal al............... > BTW will be there in March if yu wanna > stop by Dan Ryans. > > > > ===== > . > o__ > _.>/)_ > (_) \(_) > Woman, that's warm... > Semper Mobilus > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 02:30:51 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: New ISP, Earthlink? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am (again) thinking about changing my ISP, currently AT&T, formerly IBM.Net. I'm considering Earthlink as an alternative, does anyone else use it? ...and have any opinion? ...and use WWW/LX? Comments? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 22:02:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Happy New Year Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Meshar" To: Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Happy New Year > Now you are saying the calendar was adjusted and it is finally closer to > the truth. Is it? If the truth means the true millenium, that is a different can of worms than I meant to address. Without pretending to be scholarly, here are the issues as I understand them: 1-There is no record as to WHEN Jesus was born, except that it was warm (the shepperds were out, so it was not in December). 2-There is a record as to when he died, but that doesn't help much. 3-I understand scholars estimate his birth because of a number of circumstantial indications, the main one of which I recall is his being brought to the temple for the first time, which by jewish tradition would be when he was 12 (there are a lot of assumptions here which I will not detail, but I assume you are familiar enough with jewish customs to understand). But the only events in the life of Jesus which can definitely be dated with secular history are his baptism and his death. As a result, I don't know why people are so sure they know when the millenium really falls. >You mean the day by counting was faulty? (I don't mean to > add the issue of chad here in any way ) ... How can that be? Oh, you > mean the way the calendar was structured was incorrect. Ok, I buy that. > still I maintain that if you defined 1 year to be 12 months and x days > within a month, than can you really change the definition in the middle of > the count? The issue I meant to address is that it is not that hard to know what a year is, in any culture: the solar year is 365 and 1/4 days, approximately. IIRC, the ancient jews had months of 30 days, making up a year of 360 days. They made up the difference by adding a month every four years. Other cultures had other ways which were more sensible than the Julian calendar (the one that the Pope had to fix). They simply followed the seasons and the lunar calendar (observing the moon). Since they did not worry about being so precise, they did not lose the years, only the days or months. But you might question how were the years not lost from one culture to another? Most cultures were star gazers. By following the position of the stars it is posible to know the years that were past (this is the method scientists and scholars use to determine dates). Since the jews were not star gazers, I don't know how they figured out the connections, except of course when the year of the reign of a certain non jewish king is mentioned. > BTW, since I measure from zero, and you may use 1 as the origin year, are > we now in the second or third millenium? Personally I was only worried about the Y2K bug. After that, round numbers did not impress me enough to keep track. > Accodring to Duncan, 2000 is: > - 1997 according to the Christ's actual birth at circa 4 BC > - 2753 according to the old Roman calendar > - 2749 according to the ancient Babylonian calendar > - 6236 by the Egyptian calendar > - 5760 according to the Jewish calendar > - 1420 according to the Moslem calendar > - 1378 according to the Persian calendar > - 1716 according to the Coptic calendar > - 2544 according to the Buddhist calendar > -5119 in the current Maya great cycle > - 208 according to the calendar of the French Revolution > - The year of the Dragon according to the Chinese calendar > All this needs adjustment by a year, of course... Why? Just because the ancient christians did not know how to count years properly doesn't mean that other cultures didn't. Stargazing (aside from the religious connotations and superstitions) is probably the most accurate way to keep time. Domingo. (who knows very little about stargazing). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:40:16 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc - Subject: PREDICT (was: ANN: InstantTrack 1.5 Available) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I used Predict, by John Magliacane KD2BD, for satellite tracking on my palmtop for a good while, but it ceased to update the satellites from new keps after Jan. 1, 2000. Predict is availble on SUPER, and is freeware AFAIK. I've contacted the author, but he indicated he no longer supports this as there is a new release available for Linux and a DOS port of the same. I don't believe the new release will run on the palmtop. A few weeks ago with the launch of AO-40, I began to tinker with Predict again. I'm happy to say that I've got it working again by manipulating the kep data manually. So far, the program is updating normally, and predictions are within a few seconds +/- of Nova for Windows. If anyone is interested on the how to, let me know. I'll post it to the list or individually, whichever. The fix may already be common knowledge? Perhaps I missed it previously. As far as Instant Track, how does it compare to Predict as far as "what it does"? I'm not at all familiar with the program. Marcus - KD4ZCL zaaap@earthlink.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:17:23 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff: Nathalie. Comments: To: Franklin Eekhout In-Reply-To: <001601c0744e$f38ab9c0$d1014382@l50> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/2/01 +0100, Franklin Eekhout wrote: >Nathalie ... > >Which apparently is derived from the Latin dies natalis, Jesus' birthday. ... This is priceless.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:07:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff HP Problems Comments: To: Evan Person In-Reply-To: <3A4F57EA.9C547476@mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >But consider the following situation I had just a few days >ago on Christmas Day. We had a family gathering at my >sister's place. It was a 5 hour round trip, which we did in >one day. The problem is, I had no choice but to drive. I think you nailed more of it to the proverbial wall: There are little choices in the US. Part of it is that we were lulled into believing that petroleum will last forever - use your car, don't bother building any alternative transportation infrastructure. But the other part is that the country is just HUGE - I can probably drive ACROSS Europe and the distance will be about what it takes to drive a quarter of the way across this country (USA). So building a large infrastructure can be exceedingly costly. And so it goes... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:13:35 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff - Happy New Year In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/1/01 +0000, Russ Brooks wrote: >That is quite possible but it wasn't the purpose of the 1582 correction. >The church was having an increasing problem calculating the date of >easter with the physical year. (I don't remember the exact problem but it >is easily researched.) The real trouble was that the church was using the determination of the Jewish Passover as the starting point to find the exact date for Easter. Increasingly, the Catholic church found it uneasy to rely on the the Jews, whom they villified, to determine the day to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. One of history's little ironies. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:30:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: POST/LX Version 3.1 Released Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear Folks, It is a new year, and so we have a "new toy" for you all! Post/LX Version 3.1 was released. Details on http://www.dasoft.com... Enjoy. BTW, we have a mailing list for such announcements. Some people complained that they missed announcements before and that was the point of making such a list. You can join by pushing the big red button at http://www.dasoft.com/ann.htm You can also go to http://www.listbot.com/cgi-bin/subscriber?Act=subscribe_list&list_id=DA.Info to subscribe. We NEVER give out the email addresses to anyone, and we certainly do not spam you with junk mail. This is a purely informational vehicle. As you can see, the mailing list is managed online by Listbot and I have used their services for several months now with no evidence of misuse of my email addresses. (I even put in three or four dummy addresses, just to test it - so far - no junk mail!) Thank you. Avi Meshar D&A Software ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 21:44:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: PREDICT (was: ANN: InstantTrack 1.5 Available) Comments: To: zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET In-Reply-To: <200101020340.TAA16032@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Marc - wrote: > The fix may already be common knowledge? Perhaps I missed it > previously. > > As far as Instant Track, how does it compare to Predict as far as "what > it does"? I'm not at all familiar with the program. Predict is a great little program and I prefer it to IT. You may want to subscribe to the AMSAT-BB list to share and exchange info with other amsat enthusiasts. Visit amasat.org for more info. 73 de Jeff W4JEF -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- -- Where are the missing ballots?? -- -- http://www.MissingBallots.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:46:57 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc - Subject: Re: New ISP, Earthlink? Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I have used Earthlink for a number of years Russ, no complaints at all. I've switched several times in the past from ISP to ISP, but have never found the need to since switching to Earthlink. It works fine with WWW/LX. I highly recommend them. Marcus zaaap@earthlink.net > I am (again) thinking about changing my ISP, currently AT&T, formerly > IBM.Net. I'm considering Earthlink as an alternative, does anyone else > use it? ...and have any opinion? ...and use WWW/LX? > > Comments? > > Cheers... Russ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 19:52:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc - Subject: Re: PREDICT (was: ANN: InstantTrack 1.5 Available) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm a subsciber to that listserv Jeff, in fact... It may have been you that directed me there a few years back? At any rate, are you still using Predict on your palmtop? Marcus - KD4ZCL zaaap@earthlink.net > On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Marc - wrote: > > > The fix may already be common knowledge? Perhaps I missed it > > previously. > > > > As far as Instant Track, how does it compare to Predict as far as = "what > > it does"? I'm not at all familiar with the program. > > Predict is a great little program and I prefer it to IT. You may want = to > subscribe to the AMSAT-BB list to share and exchange info with other = amsat > enthusiasts. Visit amasat.org for more info. > > 73 de Jeff W4JEF > > -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- > -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- > -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- > -- Where are the missing ballots?? -- > -- http://www.MissingBallots.com -- > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:20:52 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Fluff: Revo Impressions Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello Owen, Since it's been awhile and you've had the Revo for awhile, what about posting your impressions of the Revo? I've thought about eventually purchasing a Revo when my 200LX gives out, and would be greatly interested in what you think about using the Revo from an HP200LX user's perspective. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Owen H. Morgan To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Friday, December 08, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: Scott I'm just about to buy a Psion Revo for USD 325, but >that is from the same person who sold me the HPLX, so I feel safer than >usual... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:12:37 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Happy New Year MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I don't usually meddle with far-out fluff wise or chicken? >current calendar is only off by minutes or perhaps hours noticed that year 2000 on 12/31 shows 366/0 and today 01/0101 shows 1/364 this means one day less than last year ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:16:37 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: eyes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >There is a set of muscles used to focus the lens of the eye. When these >muscles are completely relaxed, the lens is focused for distance vision ..and in laywoman's terms: the lens has a consistency of silicon breast implants (and shape) - when squeezed by the muscles (eye, not men) they change shape...and voila, you see near; now, with age that stuff gets stiffer and the muscles can't deform it; voila... you need glasses. >you can fatigue your eyes faster with the wrong sort of glasses. >Steve Carder MD (Family Practice) age 40 and over i would suggest prescriptions ones (non-Walmart) because of the likelihood of unevenness of the pairs Nathalie (HPLX-L-family Practice) :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 18:45:02 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: Fluff HP Problems In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010101190211.03adc3d0@mail.alwaysafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I think that the real reason for the difference in petrol prices (gas is actually not a liquid), is that the US still produces a substantial amount of it's own oil - as does Australia. Then there is the tax levels - about half the cost of petrol here in Australia where the price is just over US$2 per gallon now (about 50c US per litre). Australia is about the same size as the US but we don't have to think about corners as much :) On 1 Jan 2001, at 19:07, A Meshar wrote: > >But consider the following situation I had just a few days > >ago on Christmas Day. We had a family gathering at my > >sister's place. It was a 5 hour round trip, which we did in > >one day. The problem is, I had no choice but to drive. > > I think you nailed more of it to the proverbial wall: There are little > choices in the US. Part of it is that we were lulled into believing > that petroleum will last forever - use your car, don't bother building > any alternative transportation infrastructure. > > But the other part is that the country is just HUGE - I can probably > drive ACROSS Europe and the distance will be about what it takes to > drive a quarter of the way across this country (USA). So building a > large infrastructure can be exceedingly costly. > > And so it goes... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:31:46 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Happy New Year Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-V In-Reply-To: <004f01c07468$87446080$e3e8fea9@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/1/01 -0500, Domingo wrote: > > Now you are saying the calendar was adjusted and it is finally closer to > > the truth. Is it? > >If the truth means the true millenium, that is a different can of worms than >I >meant to address. Without pretending to be scholarly, here are the issues >as I understand them: >1-There is no record as to WHEN Jesus was born, except that it was warm >(the shepperds were out, so it was not in December). >2-There is a record as to when he died, but that doesn't help much. >3-I understand scholars estimate his birth because of a number of >circumstantial indications, the main one of which I recall is his being >brought to the temple for the first time, which by jewish tradition would >be when he was 12 (there are a lot of assumptions here which I will not >detail, but I assume you are familiar enough with jewish customs to >understand). But the only events in the life of Jesus which can definitely >be dated with secular history are his baptism and his death. As a result, >I don't know why people are so sure they know when the millenium >really falls. I am even less familiar than you in the issues surrounding Jesus' birth and life. All this sounds really complex and shrouded in lots of inconclusive assumptions, and that is the basis of my rejecting the fact that we take it so seriously as to go back to the day of whatever... > >You mean the day by counting was faulty? (I don't mean to > > add the issue of chad here in any way ) ... How can that be? Oh, you > > mean the way the calendar was structured was incorrect. Ok, I buy that. > > still I maintain that if you defined 1 year to be 12 months and x days > > within a month, than can you really change the definition in the middle of > > the count? > >The issue I meant to address is that it is not that hard to know what a year >is, in any culture: the solar year is 365 and 1/4 days, approximately. >IIRC, the ancient jews had months of 30 days, making up a year of >360 days. They made up the difference by adding a month every four >years. actually some months are 29 days, others are 30. The addition of Adar II is in specific years on a 49 year cycle. I believe 11 months are added in a 49 year cycle. > Other cultures had other ways which were more sensible than >the Julian calendar (the one that the Pope had to fix). They simply >followed >the seasons and the lunar calendar (observing the moon). Since they did not >worry about being so precise, they did not lose the years, only the days or >months. >But you might question how were the years not lost from one culture to >another? >Most cultures were star gazers. By following the position of the stars it >is posible >to know the years that were past (this is the method scientists and scholars >use >to determine dates). Since the jews were not star gazers, I don't know how >they >figured out the connections, except of course when the year of the reign of >a >certain non jewish king is mentioned. From the limited reading I did, I got the distinct impression that the Jewish calendar, although not star-based, is indeed rather very accurate. I understand that sometime in 10299 or some such thing, the Jewish claendar will require a one day adjustment. Its accuracy has not escaped the Catholic church's eye, and they used it for years to determine Easter, despite the growing unease .... > > Accodring to Duncan, 2000 is: > > - 1997 according to the Christ's actual birth at circa 4 BC > > - 2753 according to the old Roman calendar > > - 2749 according to the ancient Babylonian calendar > > - 6236 by the Egyptian calendar > > - 5760 according to the Jewish calendar > > - 1420 according to the Moslem calendar > > - 1378 according to the Persian calendar > > - 1716 according to the Coptic calendar > > - 2544 according to the Buddhist calendar > > -5119 in the current Maya great cycle > > - 208 according to the calendar of the French Revolution > > - The year of the Dragon according to the Chinese calendar > > All this needs adjustment by a year, of course... > >Why? Just because the ancient christians did not know how >to count years properly doesn't mean that other cultures didn't. Well, because I quoted from his book what the year 2000 is according to other calendars, and we just started that other year, 2001 :) All the best! And a happy new year! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:32:11 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Linear Flash and turbo.zip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" After I got my two Intel Series 2+ cards working ( thanks to this lists readers) I found that the 'turbo' programs by Robert Williams, ( to be gotten from ftp://ftp.csl.sony.co.jp/pub/HPLX/mirror/ftp.monash.edu.au/palmtop/turbo.zip ) Improved the access times to the 20 MB cards by 40%!! on my single speed 200LX. Don't know about ATA Flash nor double speed, since I don't have those, but it might be worth a try. Owners of those are invited to respond as well... Highly recommended. Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 11:05:52 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Fluff: Nathalie. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > At 1/2/01 +0100, Franklin Eekhout wrote: > >Nathalie ... > > > >Which apparently is derived from the Latin dies natalis, Jesus' = birthday. > > ... This is priceless.. This is out of a (german) database of names - most of you should be able to get what it means (g). Gives evidence to Frank's theory also. --- Natalie, f --- Herkunft: deutsch, englisch, franz=F6sisch Erkl=E4rung: ist ein christlicher Frauenname, mit dem Kinder getauft = wurden, die an Weihnachten, eigentlich dem 25. Dezember (!) geboren wurden. Natalia kommt vom lateinischen Adjektiv 'natalis, -e' und ist abgeleite= t vom Ausdruck 'dies natalis domini' (der Geburtstag des Herrn). Natalie ist also 'das Christkind'. Varianten: No=EBlle (franz=F6sisch), Natalia (italienisch, russisch), = Natascha (deutsch, russisch) Namenstag: 25. Dezember Sternz.: Steinbock Prominente: Natalie Wood HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 13:35:59 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: New and improvd ultra goodie Comments: To: "mack@TIMES2TECH.COM" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just a thought: Would it work with the Iomega Click-Plus? The PC-Card adapter for this identifies itself as a standard ATA card to e.g. Windows CE. So Mack, if possible, can you mail me the driver so I can give it a try? Michel -----Original Message----- From: Mack Baggette Ýmailto:mack@TIMES2TECH.COM¨ Sent: 31 December 2000 01:28 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: New and improvd ultra goodie I have been able to use it on the couple of palmtops that I tried it on, but for some reason writes are EXTREMELY SSSSLLLOOOOWWWWWW. It does work consistently for me in terms of reading from it just fine. I am sure for writes that we are at least at the edge of the power supply of the palmtop as well as at the lower end of the requirements for writes for the card. I haven't tested the driver extensively since it is in beta and data is so precious to us all that I find very few takers to do the testing. It is the same driver that was developed for use with the large Sandisk cards and should also work on the 100LX for other ATA cards that are currently not recognized by that unit. It is a special driver in that it also combines some of the features of LXCIC in that it will enable Ethernet and Modem cards. If you are running TREMM then it will also load most of the code up into an EMM page and only take up about 1k of lower memory. If you load the driver as a device in CONFIG.SYS it will give you a new drive letter to use for the ATA card and if you load it in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file then it will take over the A: drive letter of the ATA card. Cheers, Mack mailto:mack@times2tech.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:24:54 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Chris Collingwood Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Collingwood Subject: Re: Fluff: Nathalie. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable New Year greetings to the list, Just to add to this interesting thread, I live in the province of kwaZulu Natal, here in South Africa. It used to be called Natal, until about 10 years ago, when we got more politically correct, and added the kwaZulu bit (means; belonging to the Zulu). Natal is so named as the first recorded landing here by a European explorer was by Bartholemew(?sp) Diaz on 25 December (not sure which year). Being in the Southern Hemisphere, our Christmas is hot and humid, this year about 37degC. Cheers Chris HP Staber wrote: >=20 > > > > At 1/2/01 +0100, Franklin Eekhout wrote: > > >Nathalie ... > > > > > >Which apparently is derived from the Latin dies natalis, Jesus' birt= hday. > > > > ... This is priceless.. >=20 > This is out of a (german) database of names - most of you should be > able to get what it means (g). Gives evidence to Frank's theory also. >=20 > --- Natalie, f --- > Herkunft: deutsch, englisch, franz=F6sisch > Erkl=E4rung: ist ein christlicher Frauenname, mit dem Kinder getauft wu= rden, > die an Weihnachten, eigentlich dem 25. Dezember (!) geboren wurden. > Natalia kommt vom lateinischen Adjektiv 'natalis, -e' und ist abgele= itet > vom Ausdruck 'dies natalis domini' (der Geburtstag des Herrn). Natal= ie > ist also 'das Christkind'. > Varianten: No=EBlle (franz=F6sisch), Natalia (italienisch, russisch), N= atascha > (deutsch, russisch) > Namenstag: 25. Dezember > Sternz.: Steinbock > Prominente: Natalie Wood >=20 > HP Staber/Salzburg >=20 > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml --=20 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= ++++ I have no desire to receive email from advertisers or strangers. My posting to newsgroups is not an invitation to send me mail. No SPAM/UCE/UBE is ever welcome in my inbox. A proof-reading fee could be levied. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= ++++ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:33:06 -0600 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Organization: Times2 Tech Subject: Re: New and improvd ultra goodie In-Reply-To: <1E89D877173CD311B9510008C75D97B203455165@nlehx021.ehvvan.nl.origin-it.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Just a thought: Would it work with the Iomega Click-Plus? The PC-Card > adapter for this identifies itself as a standard ATA card to e.g. Windows > CE. So Mack, if possible, can you mail me the driver so I can give it a try? > Michel I have a click drive and it won't fit in the 200LX unfortunately. I assume that means it is 3.3v only since the socket is keyed differently for 3.3v only cards. Cheers, Mack mailto:mack@times2tech.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 08:15:48 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Kingston 96mb CF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There's a $40 rebate being offered (till 1/15) on 96mb Kingston CF cards. I'm not sure if this rebate applies to all vendors, but it holds for at least one: http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?productid=82399 Comes to $148 plus $5.50 shopping ... seems like a decent price, tho in general I hate rebate offers. Anyone know if there are compatibility issues with this card on the LX? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 11:13:05 -0600 Reply-To: rsoltes@airmail.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard Soltes Subject: Subject:95LX to 100/200 conversion of PBK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need help converting my address field on the 95 which is 8 lines by 40 spaces 320 spaces total to the 200 and simply to a CSV file directly so I can use it in PALM and my 2. The conversion program from HP puts the data into a smaller field and cuts it up Any help here? -- Richard Soltes rsoltes@airmail.net The author of the soon to be best selling "CHICKEN SOUP FOR THE CHICKEN" There are two rules in life 1) Never tell everything you know ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 11:15:32 -0600 Reply-To: rsoltes@airmail.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard Soltes Subject: Re: 100LX to Palm OS conversion Comments: To: "Douglas Tucker, M.D." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am struggling with the same conundrum, made worse by the fact I'm still on a 95LX If you forward me any tips you get I would be in your debt Thanks "Douglas Tucker, M.D." wrote: > After a decade with my 100LX, I finally caved in this year and bought a > Palm Vx (not getting rid of the 100LX yet though). I'd much rather convert > my calendar and phonebook files to the Palm OS than hand enter everything, > but I'm not sure how to do it. People tell me it's not a problem importing > those files if I can convert my 100LX files to comma-delimited or > tab-delimited value files. Does anyone know how to do this? > > -Doug > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- Richard Soltes rsoltes@airmail.net The author of the soon to be best selling "CHICKEN SOUP FOR THE CHICKEN" There are two rules in life 1) Never tell everything you know ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:56:16 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Fluff: Revo Impressions Comments: cc: David Ball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! David Ball wrote (>): > Since it's been awhile and you've had the Revo for > awhile, what about posting your impressions of the > Revo? I'm afraid I had some unexpected expense at the time, so put the deal on = ice. He still has it and hasn't done anything to sell it to anyone else, so = I'll probably buy it when my next wages come through. I haven't been in any = real hurry to get it, as I'm mostly buying it to use as a spare for my = MC218 in case something happens to it and for those times when I would like = to carry a PDA, but the MC218 is too bulky. > I've thought about eventually purchasing a > Revo when my 200LX gives out, and would be greatly > interested in what you think about using the Revo > from an HP200LX user's perspective. It depends on how you use your HP today. The Revo has either 8Mb of memory = on the standard model or 16Mb on the Revo Plus, and no way of adding more = memory. EPOC is a very memory efficient OS, so if you simply want a very = small and sexy a PDA for e-mail, contact database etc. it's a great little = beast and 16Mb will be plenty. However, if like me you need a really good keyboard and would like to carry = an encyclopaedia, the Oxford English Dictionary, a whole year of complete = e-mail archives etc. you should look at the Psion Series 5mx or Ericsson = MC218 which support CF memory cards and are slightly slimmer than you HP, = but a few millimetres wider and broader. As mentioned, I'm buying the Revo = as an "extra" EPOC machine, but the MC218 will remain my main "everything" = computer. The Revo is a lot neater and smaller than a HP200LX or a Psion S5 = / Ericsson MC218, but you pay for it in terms of expandability, so it's = important to define your needs before you spend your money. Another point = worth considering is that the Revo screen is not backlit. It's a very nice = and clear screen though. Makes the HP200LX look like a mucky duck pond... BTW, I don't agree at all with Martin Bergvill about the keyboard on the = Psion Series 5mx and Ericsson MC218. He says you need to place it on a = table to use it, but I hardly ever use my MC218 on a table. I'm now sitting = in the corner of my sofa with my feet up and the MC218 on my lap supported = by my thumbs and "six-finger touch" typing this message at a good speed. = I'm not as fast as some secretaries, but I can certainly type a lot faster = than I can think. When I use pen and paper, I have to pause in my thinking = to let my writing catch up. When I use the MC218, I have to pause in my = typing to let my brain catch up. I reckon my speed on the MC218 is about 95% of what I used to be able to do = on a big keyboard. Of course, as I do all my typing on the MC218, I can no = longer type on a big keyboard without getting lost... When I use the MC218 = standing up, I hold it in my left hand and type with my left thumb and = three fingers of my right hand, and my speed is slightly slower, but still = probably faster than what is possible with two thumbs on a HP. I've never = had any problem with the fixed screen angle. Owen --=20 * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:56:29 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Fluff - Happy New Year MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Evan Person yanked my chain by writing (>): > Actually I heard somewhere (years ago) that the > birth of Christ actually occurred about 3 years > away (forgot which direction) from 0 AD of the > modern calendar and that Christ was actually > born in current calendar October some time. I don't remember about the month, but nasty old King Herod had apparently = been dead for about four years at the date our calendar sets as the birth = of Christ. I wouldn't expect he gave the order to murder all those little = boys posthumously? Moving the date back a few years fits with a Comet that = could explain the star of Bethlehem too. BTW, there are lots and lots and lots of errors in the modern = interpretation of the story. The city of Bethlehem wasn't even founded = until 50 - 60 odd years later. There was, however another little place = called Bethlehem a few clicks away. This means that the cave which is now = presented as Christ's birthplace can not possibly be the right one. Oh, and the reason he was born in a stable wasn't that there wasn't room at = the inn (there probably wasn't an inn in tiny Bethlehem back then). The = reason was that the stable was the warmest room in the house, so it was the = best place for a birth. There is nothing in the original text about Mary = being a virgin. The word used in the original means young unmarried girl, = so the whole idea of her being a virgin is based on a shoddy translation, = as is the concept of getting a camel through the eye of a needle. The date = we now celebrate (or use as an excuse to spend lots of money) was decided = at a meeting in year threehundred and sixty someodd. I don't know who took = the minutes... :o) While I'm rambling on. There is strong evidence that the legend of Christ = is based on at least two different chaps, or he was schizophrenic. Smashing = the interior of a temple sorta' don't really fit with preaching peace and = understanding and turning the other cheek... Oh and Pontius Pilate probably wasn't such a nice guy as he comes across in = the new testament. It wasn't put in writing until a few hundred years later = when the first Christian sects were turning up in Rome, so it looked good = if they tweaked the story a bit with a Roman "nice guy" to make it more = palatable to the Romans... Pilate was actually called back to Rome because = he kept provoking the Jews and causing riots... Now to bring it all back on topic... Maybe there's an astronomer on the = list who can use his HP to calculate the correct date for the birth of at = least one of the guys this legend is based on... Before I close... It has not been my intention to offend anyone. I do = respect other peoples convictions, but that doesn't mean I have to agree = with them. Oh, and I'm sorry I'm rather hazy about times and dates. It's = been a while since I looked into this, and I don't have any reference = material here on the boat. (It would sink me...) Beliefs, no matter how sincerely held, do not alter facts! Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:38:28 -0500 Reply-To: RickRae@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Rae Subject: Re: New ISP, Earthlink? Comments: To: rlbrooks@POBOX.COM In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I can't comment directly on Earthlink, but I can tell you this: After going through three different ISPs, all with their own distinct problems, we wound up with Mindspring for many years. Mindspring really seemed to believe in their stated "core values," and were pretty much exemplary in terms of the service they provided. Since Mindspring and Earthlink became one, however, we have seen continually deteriorating levels of quality as well as customer service. Here is one example of many: Long ago, Mindspring asked us to start using a new dial-in number for ISDN because they were changing stuff on their network. We couldn't connect using the new number, let them know, and in less than a day they had determined the problem was with our local carrier; it was fixed the day after that. Last year, Earthlink/Mindspring sent us a similar email, and when we tried to switch numbers per their request, we had a similar problem. ONE MONTH after reporting the problem, we were finally contacted by an Earthlink service rep who had been "assigned" to "work on" our problem. (We had already solved it at that point... by changing ISPs.) Maybe others' comments can help you determine if the change in Mindspring was because of Earthlink or something else. And, good luck regardless of which way you go. Rick *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 1/2/2001 at 2:30 AM Russel Brooks wrote: >I am (again) thinking about changing my ISP, currently AT&T, formerly >IBM.Net. I'm considering Earthlink as an alternative, does anyone else >use it? ...and have any opinion? ...and use WWW/LX? > >Comments? > >Cheers... Russ > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:28:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: New ISP, Earthlink? Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russel Brooks wrote: > I am (again) thinking about changing my ISP, currently AT&T, formerly > IBM.Net. I'm considering Earthlink as an alternative, does anyone else > use it? ...and have any opinion? ...and use WWW/LX? A while back I was considering switching from compuserve to earthlink....dropped the idea when sprint and mci tried to merge. (I hate mci and their lack ethics). Now I have a local ISP with DSL for only a little more than compuserve. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:46:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: New ISP, Earthlink? Comments: To: RickRae@usa.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rick Rae wrote: > I can't comment directly on Earthlink, but I can tell you this: > > After going through three different ISPs, all with their own distinct > problems, we wound up with Mindspring for many years. Mindspring really > seemed to believe in their stated "core values," and were pretty much > exemplary in terms of the service they provided. Since Mindspring and > Earthlink became one, however, we have seen continually deteriorating > levels of quality as well as customer service. I've tried many many many ISPs over the years including compuseve, aol and others. I would point out this for all of the ISPs: 1.. All ISPs are out to gouge the comsumer...they strive to supply the worst service at the highest possible cost. 2. All isps suck. I finally found a local ISP that is very good and provides DSL lines for only a few dollars more than what I was paying for compuserve. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:54:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: FLUFF: Re: New and improvd ultra goodie Comments: To: Jacques Belin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 17:19:51 +0100, Jacques Belin wrote: > > The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old > WebSites. > "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... > --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown' > s story A number of years ago, I was the only user connected to a stand-alone UNIX box. One morning I arrived at work, turned on my terminal and saw the message "You have mail." I first looked around for Rod Searling. After I realized I was not in the Twilight Zone, I read the mail. It turns out that the hardware monitor detected some sort of minor glitch during the night and sent mail to the Super User, me, notifying me of this event. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:31:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Fluff HP Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 18:45:02 +1030, Ed Lomax wrote: > I think that the real reason for the difference in petrol prices (gas is > actually not a liquid), is that the US still produces a substantial > amount of it's own oil - as does Australia. Then there is the tax > levels - about half the cost of petrol here in Australia where the > price is just over US$2 per gallon now (about 50c US per litre). > Australia is about the same size as the US but we don't have to > think about corners as much :) Hi Not sure how many cars Norway have. But we produce enough oil/gasoline to have a very low price on it. But we do not. We pay about $1 for 1(ONE) liter of fuel. The goverment takes about 75% in tax. But hey we are one of the richest countries in the world and I can still afford gasoline for my toys..:-) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:06:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Fluff: Revo Impressions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 23:20:52 -0600, David Ball wrote: > Hello Owen, > > Since it's been awhile and you've had the Revo for awhile, what about > posting your impressions of the Revo? I've thought about eventually > purchasing a Revo when my 200LX gives out, and would be greatly interested > in what you think about using the Revo from an HP200LX user's perspective. > > Thanks! Hi I have looked and used the Revo some. My Father also has a 5MX. As I see it I would miss this if I switched to a Revo 1. I like the keyboard on the Hplx 2.1 I like to be able to insert pcmcia/cf memory in a Hplx. 2.2 -----"------ same goes for ethernetcard/modem and things like that. 3. I like to be able to adjust the viewing angle of the screen on the Hplx. 4. I like that I have a normal rs232 in my Hplx and can hook up everything I want to it. 5. I like that I can use normal AA in my Hplx in addition to rechargeable. 6. I love that I can get the help of the great people on this list for any problem. Hmm well that is what I found at the top of my head. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:13:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Kingston 96mb CF Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <882569C8.00597C39.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >There's a $40 rebate being offered (till 1/15) on 96mb Kingston CF cards. I'm >not sure if this rebate applies to all vendors, but it holds for at least one: > > http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?productid=82399 > >Comes to $148 plus $5.50 shopping ... seems like a decent price, tho >in general >I hate rebate offers. > >Anyone know if there are compatibility issues with this card on the LX? I have decided to be paranoid and try to buy only Sandisk cards. Then I generally don't have to even **THINK** about compatibility, reliability, power drain, heat generation.... They're GOOD cards! They generally cost more than the competition, and I have decided that there is a **REASON** for that! That said, I have never had a lick of trouble with my 80MB SimpleTech card, used primarily as a back-up medium for my 64MB LX. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 06:47:32 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kheehua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kheehua Subject: Re: Kingston 96mb CF Comments: To: Jim Saklad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim. is the Simple cf card readable on a HP100LX ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Saklad" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 6:13 AM Subject: Re: Kingston 96mb CF > That said, I have never had a lick of trouble with my 80MB SimpleTech > card, used primarily as a back-up medium for my 64MB LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:27:10 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Fluff gas prices In-Reply-To: <200101012302.SAA13637@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:02:38 -0500 Thomas Rundel a =E9crit: > If I recall correctly, more than three quarters of > the German gas price are taxes. Same thing in France... > And they are not even building sufficient roads with all that money. :-( Not exactly the same thing in France. They build sufficient (?) highways with this money... But we must pay (one more time!) to access to them !!! Jacques. --=20 The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:19:57 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Fluff gas prices MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT on 1 Jan 2001, at 18:02, Thomas Rundel wrote about "Re: Fluff gas prices": > Don't get my wrong - I'm not saying that your gas prices are too low. > But I'm saying that European gas prices are way too high, due to the > horrendous amount of taxes which European governments are collecting > from car drivers. If I recall correctly, more than three quarters of the > German gas price are taxes. > > And they are not even building sufficient roads with all that money. :-( > From the point of view of a car driver you are probably right. But if you take into account air pollution, noise, traffic accidents, and environment destruction from roads, and compare it to other means of traffic the prices for petrol are still to low even in Germany. Especially heavy duty transports are much cheaper than the real costs they cause to all of us. Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:50:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Need help using Turbo C's linker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>>>> Sorry to bother everyone. I'm trying to write a program using Turbo C v2.0. In this program, I am using function calls supplied by a .H file and a corresponding .OBJ file. When I try to compile my program inside TC, I keep getting "Linker Error: Undefined symbol". I have assured that the entries under Options/Directories are correct; everything is installed under one directory. I have tried to use TLINK manually, but I don't understand the command line setup. I'm not good at programming in general. I can maybe explain better offline if need be. Thank you in advance for everyone's time. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< First check that the symbol that's undefined is one in your .obj file and make sure it's defined in your header file. Keep in mind that the header file should only have definitions, nothing that generates code. Then make sure your header file is called from your code that produces the .obj file and also included in each c file that references anything in that .obj file. If you want more help with this im at barryATfbtcDOTnet. I'm sure you know what to do with the word's AT and Dot in my address. Feel free to email me about this. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 17:52:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Need help using Turbo C's linker MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I forgot to mention that an easy way to use the linker seperately is to use tcc. tcc myswitches mymain.obj myobj.obj mylibs.lib As long as there are no c files in there tcc just links everything. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:18:14 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: Fluff - Happy New Year In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 2 Jan 2001, at 19:56, Owen H. Morgan wrote: > Hi! > > Evan Person yanked my chain by writing (>): > > > Actually I heard somewhere (years ago) that the > > birth of Christ actually occurred about 3 years > > away (forgot which direction) from 0 AD of the > > modern calendar and that Christ was actually > > born in current calendar October some time. > > I don't remember about the month, but nasty old King Herod had > apparently been dead for about four years at the date our calendar > sets as the birth of Christ. I wouldn't expect he gave the order to > murder all those little boys posthumously? Moving the date back a few > years fits with a Comet that could explain the star of Bethlehem too. snipped maybe we should all switch to the Japanese calendar as it is always based on the number of years of reign of the current emporer - Heisei 12 I think at the moment. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:51:26 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Kingmax or Sandisk In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi guys, just doing some checking on the cards available in Australia and found Kingmax PCMCIA cards locally ( code KCF032M - 32Mb) or Sandisk compact flash and CF adapter ($30Au for the adapter). Any thoughts on which is the best option? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:43:10 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: XIP (was: Going the other way - was VDISK.SYS) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>> For those who don't know about XIP (eXecute In Place) , this is a mechanism installed in the HP95LX (I don't remember if it was in HP100 or HP200, but I think), permitting to execute code directly on a card without to load it in memory. <<<<<<< If I remember right, XIP will work on an sram card where it has direct access. It's just more ram to the lx. But I'm pretty sure it won't work on a flash card. Sram cards probably aren't that hard to find if you look for one. A lot of 95lx users had them. A lot of people (me included) used them on the 100lx, too. (Nope, I don't have any for sale :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:58:13 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > not really looking for a playing program > - they are all pretty weak still (tried > Fungoe2000? best I have played so far). I read that the latest version of MFGO is playing at a 2 dan level. Or was it 3 dan. I'm not sure now. It tells on Fotland's site. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:52:08 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: Kingston 96mb CF Comments: To: Jim Saklad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My dime's worth (inflation). I have used 96MB, CF, SIMPLE, and sandisk wit no drivers or problems for three plus yeers. yor pal al............. --- Jim Saklad wrote: > >There's a $40 rebate being offered (till 1/15) > on 96mb Kingston CF cards. I'm > >not sure if this rebate applies to all > vendors, but it holds for at least one: > > > > > http://www.computers4sure.com/product.asp?productid=82399 > > > >Comes to $148 plus $5.50 shopping ... seems > like a decent price, tho > >in general > >I hate rebate offers. > > > >Anyone know if there are compatibility issues > with this card on the LX? > > I have decided to be paranoid and try to buy > only Sandisk cards. Then > I generally don't have to even **THINK** about > compatibility, > reliability, power drain, heat generation.... > They're GOOD cards! > They generally cost more than the competition, > and I have decided > that there is a **REASON** for that! > > That said, I have never had a lick of trouble > with my 80MB SimpleTech > card, used primarily as a back-up medium for my > 64MB LX. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:48:08 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ace Frehley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ace Frehley Subject: Found and Purchased! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just thought I'd drop a line to tell everyone I got lucky today! ;) I was cruising the local pawn shops and found a MINT 200lx with 1 meg of ram with the internal memory expansion header. Paid about $50 US for this beauty! WoooooEEEEEE! Happy New Year to all! Sometimes you get lucky looking in places you least expect to find these GEMS! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:50:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: Found and Purchased! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tremendous! A good omen. Bob -- Bob Christopher, rbc@ezlink.com on 01/02/2001 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 05:56:12 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Fluff cavewomen in Australia MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Lomax wrote about Australia: > hot!! 39C for new years day (about 102F for you cavemen types) cavemomen - and for you to stay in a cave when its 102 is advisable btw. the "Webby Awards" (www.webbyawards.com) for science in 2000 for the best web page in the world (and universe) went to the French caves: www.culture.fr/culture/arcnat/lascaux/en >Not much surf (water based) where I am at as in a large bay where >waves just don't get big enough to make it worthwhile. lazy bum - every surf beach is within 59 1/2 minutes drive from large bays like Sydney harbour, Moreton bay, Melbourn harbour, Swan river or Strathbroke island.. been there, Maity Nathalie ps. if you want to slog it out over the lazy bum, blease write to me privately :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 06:04:16 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: New Year and Morphy one MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Accodring to Duncan, 2000 is: the Japanese is missing in Duncan's list Heisei 13 nen - year 13 of the emperor since the system last reset itself to all our Japanese list members - bansai!, and AKEMASHITE OMEDETOU ! (Morphy one ni tsuite mata rainen taihen o-sewa ni nari deshoo ka?) Nathalie, who needs more proof whether "dies natalis" means "Jesus' birthday" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:06:07 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: New ISP, Earthlink? In-Reply-To: <3A523E16.869DDD45@beld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/2/01 -0500, Ken London wrote: >I've tried many many many ISPs over the years including compuseve, aol and >others. I would point out this for all of the ISPs: > >1.. All ISPs are out to gouge the comsumer...they strive to supply the worst >service at the highest possible cost. >2. All isps suck. I am not quite cleart on how you REALLY feel about ISPs - can you please be ore specific about how you feel about ISPs? .... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:06:17 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: e-mail with our LX Comments: To: m_berrier@gmx.de MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit You might want to try Nettamer. It's somewhat klunky, but it does allow you to use the same email program on the palmtop and the desktop...something I wanted to do when I was using it for email. It has versions for both the palmtop and the desktop, as well. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Berrier To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:30 AM Subject: e-mail with our LX >Hi HPLX list, > >new to list and having the intention to use the 200LX for e-mailing, >starting from zero, what needs to be done to get there?? Any kind of >information is appreciated. The person have nothing to do computing at all, >really starting from scratch, please help Thank you ! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:11:43 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: FoxBase, etc Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I would be greatly interested in this spreadsheet. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Bob Christopher To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Thursday, December 28, 2000 6:19 AM Subject: FoxBase, etc If you would like a copy, send me an email and I will send it to you. It is called. TTLX.WK1 (short for TimeTrack-LX). The file is about 14K. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:06:52 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx In-Reply-To: <00e401c07531$039f6940$08549fac@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 2 Jan 2001, at 20:58, Barry wrote: > > not really looking for a playing program > > - they are all pretty weak still (tried > > Fungoe2000? best I have played so far). > > I read that the latest version of MFGO is playing at a 2 dan level. Or > was it 3 dan. I'm not sure now. It tells on Fotland's site. don't know where Fotlands site is but I seriously doubt this as the last time I played MFgo I gave it 9 stones and won as normal. I am only about 2kyu and from what I can gather from the bods in rec.games.go the strongest of all the go playing programs plays at around 3kyu (Japanese ranking) and this is not MFgo. Anyway I would need something other than a 100lx to play it I suspect, and I have moved away from playing computers as the plays are too predictable. Still nobody has a hint for me how to access DOS on the omnigo? Not in the manuals I have with it, nor have I found it in the faq's. Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 03:39:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HansHoenen@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Hoenen Subject: 2GB microdrive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To all, In D=FCsseldorf,Germany,in a photoshop I have seen today the announcement for this month of a 2GB CF Typ II microdrive of KINGSTON(??):20% faster than 1GB microdrive of IBM and the price 0.80 DM/1MB. No information of power consumption to get;is this a NEW hardware solution= for the HP 200LX? Regards Hans Hoenen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:17:38 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fluff gas prices MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tom, On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 18:02:38 -0500, Thomas Rundel wrote: > Well, I think I don't get it. Why should the size of a country be a > justification of low gas prices? Do you propose that gas prices > should be proportional to the size of the country ;-) instead of being > determined by the cost of production and distribution, which should > be almost the same in Europe and the U.S.? Prices are made by supply and demand - so if a country is large, there is much demand and the prices go down (if there is enough supply). So it is not really a proportionality, but contry size and gas prices are not independant ;-) GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:07:51 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: New ISP, Earthlink? In-Reply-To: <3A5239FB.98C810CC@beld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 03.01.2001, 14:03, KenLondon wrote: >> I am (again) thinking about changing my ISP, currently AT&T, formerly >> IBM.Net. I'm considering Earthlink as an alternative, does anyone else >> use it=3F ...and have any opinion=3F ...and use WWW/LX=3F > A while back I was considering switching from compuserve to > earthlink....dropped the idea when sprint and mci tried to merge. (I hate Earthlink is known here in Germany as one of the biggest US spammers who doesn't give a **** on customers' complaints. I personally receive about one spam a week sent out via earthlink servers, so I completely blocked it. =3D> If you don't want to support spammers, please do not subscribe to earthlink. Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:38:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Happy New Year MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathalie Bugeaud" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 1:12 AM Subject: Re: Happy New Year > >I don't usually meddle with far-out fluff > > wise or chicken? Your call. :-) > Nathalie, > who needs more proof whether "dies natalis" means "Jesus' birthday" Now, now, are we getting feisty over a little inherited religion? :-) Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:53:04 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jorgen@PALMTOP.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: REX SYNC? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi There! I didn't pay attention earlier, since I didn't have a Rex card. Since I now got one, could someone please inform me about the name of the application which allows me to sync the 200LX with the Rex card and where it can be found- didn't see it on SUPER... Thanks, Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:05:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: memo question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > the built in memo program in the HP200LX to compose my email messages. > However, whenever memo wraps around, it does not add a linefeed One way to do this is have Memo print your message to a file. Memo will = put a carriage return at the end of each line as defined by the left and right = margin you give it. If you know the name of the file your E-mail program is exepecting, then just have Memo print to a file with that name. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:05:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > not really looking for a playing program - they are all pretty weak True, but that is all I have experience with > 1. how to access dos on the 100lx? If you have System Manager running (which is the normal set up) you can = hold down the CTRL key and press the Lotus 123 key. This should get you a DOS prompt, but not much memory. Type exit to get back to System Manager. = Another option is to terminate System Manager. Go to &...More then Press Menu Applications Terminate all. Type 100 to get back to System Manager. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:05:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: PREDICT (was: ANN: InstantTrack 1.5 Available) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > A few weeks ago with the launch of AO-40, I began to tinker with > Predict again. I'm happy to say that I've got it working again by > manipulating the kep data manually. So far, the program is updating > normally, and predictions are within a few seconds +/- of Nova You could make your process available on the SUPER site so those who = download Predict will be able to use your process to get the updates working. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:05:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > now here's a question I forgot to ask - even given that these may > work on the dos on the 100lx - how do you get around the screen > being so many pixels smaller? Many Faces of Go version has a CGA graphics mode. It shows the whole Go = board at the same time and an area for comments. This all works on a 100LX or = 200LX Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:09:09 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: REX SYNC? In-Reply-To: <200101031353.f03Dr4L67729@smtp22.singnet.com.sg> from "Jorgen Wallgren" at Jan 03, 2001 09:53:04 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I didn't pay attention earlier, since I didn't have a Rex card. Since I > now got one, could someone please inform me about the name of the > application which allows me to sync the 200LX with the Rex card and > where it can be found- didn't see it on SUPER... anon ftp to alphabetatech.com, get the .zip file. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:37:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: 100LX to Palm OS conversion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" See the page on "Exporting Phonebooks and other databases from HP 100/200LX to CSV files" at: http://www.striegels.com/alan/HPLX/HPdbexport.txt >From: Douglas Tucker, M.D. Ýmailto:dtucker@ITSA.UCSF.EDU¨ >Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 11:51 AM > >After a decade with my 100LX, I finally caved in this year and bought a >Palm Vx (not getting rid of the 100LX yet though). I'd much rather convert >my calendar and phonebook files to the Palm OS than hand enter everything, >but I'm not sure how to do it. People tell me it's not a problem importing >those files if I can convert my 100LX files to comma-delimited or >tab-delimited value files. Does anyone know how to do this? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:59:01 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx In-Reply-To: <200101031405.JAA27792@spdmraac.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 3 Jan 2001, at 9:05, Steve Carder wrote: > > not really looking for a playing program - they are all pretty weak > > True, but that is all I have experience with plenty of places to play go on the net but don't know of any clients that support olde dos. > > 1. how to access dos on the 100lx? > > If you have System Manager running (which is the normal set up) you > can hold down the CTRL key and press the Lotus 123 key. This should > get you a DOS prompt, but not much memory. Type exit to get back to > System Manager. Another option is to terminate System Manager. Go to > &...More then Press Menu Applications Terminate all. Type 100 to get > back to System Manager. I must be missing something here - either I have been misled to think an OmniGo 100 (1mb ram) is a 100lx, or mine is a mutant - no ctrl key or Lotus key. Then there is the System Manager bit - go to what? '&' is not an option on any menu I have. Are we talking about the same beast? Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:04:05 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>> now here's a question I forgot to ask - even given that these may work on the dos on the 100lx - how do you get around the screen being so many pixels smaller? I've seen a guy using PilotGone once and was really looking for something similar where the whole board is displayed at the same time. Still all this is useless to me unless I can work out how to access dos on the thing. <<<<<<<<<<<< If the program will run in CGA, which is the main graphics mode of the 200lx, the pixel count is the same as that on a desktop PC in CGA. The zoom stuff only works in text mode. The game will surely be in graphics mode. The different proportions of the screen will make things look wider than they would on a monitor. That can be a problem with objects that rotate and become distorated as they do, but you won't see that in a Go game. In fact it doesn't occur in most games. Your eyes usually will adjust to the odd proportions very quickly. At least mine do. By the way, if anyone is interested, I got Ultima 1 working on my 200lx the other day. I don't have the faintest idea how to play it and I don't have any instructions. Does anyone know if there's a help key? I wasn't able to find one. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:10:51 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 2GB microdrive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable << In D=FCsseldorf,Germany,in a photoshop I have seen today the announceme= nt for this month of a 2GB CF Typ II microdrive of KINGSTON(??):20% faster= than 1GB microdrive of IBM and the price 0.80 DM/1MB. No information of power consumption to get;is this a NEW hardware solut= ion for the HP 200LX? >> Improved size and speed are good things to many people, but not much us= e to LX'ers constrained to 150mA card slots. Let me know if you find a web link to this product, but the Kingston si= te still only shows their 2gb Type II PCMCIA Datapak whose LX-killing max power consumption of 500mA has hopefully been improved upon by the new CF pro= duct (whoever the manufacturer is). And the IBM Microdrive may not be standing still either. As it has bee= n gaining a following among digicam users (except among climber-photographers who= can't use it at high altitudes > 10,000ft), the digicam discussion groups hav= e been dismissing the average $500 price as "old", with some photo supply shop= s (www.pictureline.com, www.eppersonphoto.com/indexOrig.html) listing th= e 1gb Microdrive for $360-$380. I haven't bought from any of those stores, s= o I don't know if they're legit or good to deal with. So maybe a 2gb IBM Microdrive is in the works? Regardless of who makes= it, I hope they lower the power requirements too ... either that or add a key= board and DOS to my camera . - Longden = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:14:25 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Olde software idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> If you had to identify, in one word, the >> reason why the human race has not >> achieved, and never will achieve, its full >> potential, that word would be >> "meetings." > ... and "action plans" which is especially famous > with the Americans and the French ;-) This assumes a distorted idea of humanity, in my opinion. We're at our best when seeking or grasping just beyond our reach. We're a process, not a container. We're better measured by how much we want than by how much we achieve. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:25:48 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << I must be missing something here - either I have been misled to think an OmniGo 100 (1mb ram) is a 100lx, or mine is a mutant - no ctrl key or Lotus key. Then there is the System Manager bit - go to what? '&' is not an option on any menu I have. Are we talking about the same beast? >> You have been misled. The OmniGo 100 was a short-lived product that evolved sometime after the 200LX and before the Jornada HPCs. OmniGo100's run the GEOS windowing system, and has both touchscreen and keyboard input. The 100LX came before the 200LX in the timeline, though they both look similar, and are essentially fossilized DOS 5.0 PCs, with all the attendant Ctrl/Alt/Esc keys that PC/DOS users know and love/hate, plus a suite of built-in applications that included the Lotus 123 spreadsheet (since the original LX developers were at least partly comprised of Lotus people). Many of the suite of built-in apps are accessed via special blue keys (on the 200LX), one of which is labeled "&...". So if you don't see any of these keys, then your beast is a different kind of beef. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:34:35 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Olde software idea Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << > ... and "action plans" which is especially famous > with the Americans and the French ;-) This assumes a distorted idea of humanity, in my opinion. We're at our best when seeking or grasping just beyond our reach. We're a process, not a container. >> Reminiscent of a line from the movie, "Starman", when the alien tells Sherman what they found "most beautiful" about humans was how "you are at your best when things are worst". << We're better measured by how much we want than by how much we achieve. >> Hmmm, by that token, how do the insane (who want much but achieve little) measure up? OTOH, what does that say about my managers who always seem to want a lot but achieve little . - Longden (who resolves this year to process more and contain less .... I joined a gym) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 03:15:29 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx In-Reply-To: <882569C9.005A8288.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 3 Jan 2001, at 8:25, Longden Loo wrote: > << > I must be missing something here - either I have been misled to > think an OmniGo 100 (1mb ram) is a 100lx, or mine is a mutant - > no ctrl key or Lotus key. Then there is the System Manager bit - > go to what? '&' is not an option on any menu I have. Are we talking > about the same beast? >> > > You have been misled. > > The OmniGo 100 was a short-lived product that evolved sometime after > the 200LX and before the Jornada HPCs. OmniGo100's run the GEOS > windowing system, and has both touchscreen and keyboard input. ok thanks!! now all I need to know is what I can do with this OmniGo thing - does it have Dos or just Geos? No where in the manual that came with it does it even mention Geos - so whats new with the boffins at HP eh? My father was an exec for them 20 years ago and their manuals sucked then too. Any tips people have for me now will ofcourse be much appreciated as so far all has been a dead end ( a few web pages with little info), news groups have been non-responsive, and so I suppose I will continue to pester you all until you say the OmniGo 100 is off-topic for a 100LX/200LX list :) Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:40:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Corso, Tony" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Corso, Tony" Subject: 200lx pim clone for CE devices MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C075A3.F40967B0" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C075A3.F40967B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" (i posted this on alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp a few days ago, perhaps someone here can answer my question) Did anyone ever determine the url for the 200lx PIM clone described below thanks for taking the time T In article <90gbkd$2tt$2@reader1.imaginet.fr>, "Etienne Victoria" wrote: > For all people complaining about Microsoft WinCE Agenda & > time-keeping applications compared to HP 200 LX > PIMs, may I suggest to try using the excellent (in my opinion) application "Oyajins Appointment V 1.02" from Mr Shinichi Yakamoto ? > > It has all the 200 LX appointments functions & GUI + management of > multiples agendas and works perfectly on my SH-3 > > Thank yo for your attention > _____________ > Etienne Victoria_____________ > Etienne Victoria > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C075A3.F40967B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" 200lx pim clone for CE devices

(i posted this on alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp a few days
 ago, perhaps someone here can answer my question)

Did anyone ever determine the url for the 200lx PIM clone described below
 
 thanks for taking the time
 T
 
 
 
 In article <90gbkd$2tt$2@reader1.imaginet.fr>,
   "Etienne Victoria" <Etienne.REMOVESPAMvictoria@freesbee.fr> wrote:
 > For all people complaining about Microsoft WinCE  Agenda &
 > time-keeping applications compared to HP 200 LX
 > PIMs, may I suggest to try using the excellent (in my opinion)
 application "Oyajins Appointment V 1.02" from Mr Shinichi Yakamoto ?
 >
 > It has all the 200 LX appointments functions & GUI + management of
 > multiples agendas and works perfectly on my SH-3
 >
 > Thank yo for your attention
 > _____________
 > Etienne Victoria_____________
 > Etienne Victoria
 >
 >

------_=_NextPart_001_01C075A3.F40967B0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:53:34 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Happy New Year MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> So this leads to the inevitable conclusion that although our current calendar is accurate within seconds per year, the period of time elapsed over the past 2000 years is really not accurately measured by the tool we used at this moment. I.e. - we are not necessarily measuring the millenium. <<<<< It's silly to make this so complicated when it's really quite simple. If we do know the exact changes that have been made in the callender we can take them into account and probably come up with something that will satisfy at least some of the astronomers. But that's really the astronomer's job. And they're the ones who have screwed it all up. Since they've managed to screw up the callender so much, why worry about it? We can simply choose a starting number and go from there. I like the logic of starting at 1 in this case, but I think the world as a whole has chosen 0 as a starting number. Then count by thousands and you're counting millenia. Millenium is a meaningless concept anyway. It's just a round number in our current most commonly used non-technical counting system. People like round numbers so they've chosen 2000 as the start of the new millenium. And if you think I'm going to start a fight with 5 billion drunken revellers, you're mistaken. 2000 it is. If we want to be serious about a technically correct millenium, we should use hexidecimal counting. Ok, we do have 10 fingers, but we also have 2 hands, 2 feet, 2 sets of cheeks, 2 each, 2 nostrils, 2 eyes, 2 ears, 2 kidneys, 2 lungs, 2 nipples, 2 genders and 2 ways of looking at practically anything. We even, actually, have 2 sets of 5 fingers and 2 sets of 5 toes. So 2 is far more natural. The number of things we have 2 of is far greater than the number of things we have 10 of. And they tend to be more interesting things. Hex is really a shorthand for binary and more convenient and more commonly used to describe binary things. So 1000h would be the millenium. That's 4096 years. It's a power of 2, which is much more elemental than powers of 10. (see above) In any case, the technically correct millenium is still too far off to worry about. We're still in the first half of the first millenium. By the end of it no-one will remember when it began anyway so they'll just go with the turn of the odometer. Barry (the unconfused) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:18:10 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff HP Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> But the other part is that the country is just HUGE - I can probably drive ACROSS Europe and the distance will be about what it takes to drive a quarter of the way across this country (USA). So building a large infrastructure can be exceedingly costly. <<<<< I live in Texas, which is over 1,000 miles wide and over 1,000 miles high. Unlike most states, cities are often very far apart and there can easily be 50 miles of nothing between 2 cities. 100 miles isn't unusual. I live in the country about 75 miles west of Houston, the nation's third (sometimes fourth) largest city, but even this close to a metropolitan area, the nearest supermarket is 26 miles from my house. The nearest large shopping area was 40 miles from my house. Now there is a huge new mall only 22 miles away, although it's an outlet mall and has very little that I need. I drive the 150 mile round trip to Houston about every 3 weeks and I make the 250 mile round trip to my fathers house (on the far side of Houston, within the city limits) weekly. Distances in the United states are probably different than in other countries and distances in Texas are much greater yet. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 04:12:34 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: Fluff HP Problems In-Reply-To: <004101c075a9$262a40c0$75fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hehe Yanks love talking big :) Texas ain't big - we have a farm in Western Australia that is bigger - no joke! South Australia where I live is bigger too and has less than 1.5 million people in it - and only one city. Once you leave the cities here you pretty soon realise Australia is empty. On the other hand my mother comes from Holland and last time she visited there the airline made all the passengers get out by the rear exit. People were all annoyed and asking why so my mother with her acquired Aussie wit, said the plane had overshot the runway and the nose was now in Germany :) On 3 Jan 2001, at 11:18, Barry wrote: > >>>>> But the other part is that the country is just HUGE - I can > probably drive ACROSS Europe and the distance will be about what it > takes to drive a quarter of the way across this country (USA). So > building a large infrastructure can be exceedingly costly. <<<<< > > I live in Texas, which is over 1,000 miles wide and over 1,000 miles > high. Unlike most states, cities are often very far apart and there > can easily be 50 miles of nothing between 2 cities. 100 miles isn't > unusual. > > I live in the country about 75 miles west of Houston, the nation's > third (sometimes fourth) largest city, but even this close to a > metropolitan area, the nearest supermarket is 26 miles from my house. > The nearest large shopping area was 40 miles from my house. Now there > is a huge new mall only 22 miles away, although it's an outlet mall > and has very little that I need. > > I drive the 150 mile round trip to Houston about every 3 weeks and I > make the 250 mile round trip to my fathers house (on the far side of > Houston, within the city limits) weekly. > > Distances in the United states are probably different than in other > countries and distances in Texas are much greater yet. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 11:36:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff - Happy New Year MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Beliefs, no matter how sincerely held, do not alter facts! The reverse is often true as well. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:49:33 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, I don't agree with anyone claiming that you cannot damage your eyes by looking at tiny things a lot. I'm actually suprised that no german list member mentioned the most obvious case; J.S. Bach and Handel both turned blind at age of 60 due to the immense amount of partitia they wrote and copied. Also, reading tiny characters in a vibrating environment, like a train or tram, must be very large strain on your eye-muscles. Maybe someday someone invents a glasses with built-in image stabilizer, just like in camcorders; but until that I would oppose using tinyests screens, like those in 200LX and Psion5 for prologned time or while on the move. BTW, those worried could try that VGA-out PCMCIA card which works in the LX and use a desktop monitor when stationary. Sincerely: Tamas Feher ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:43:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx Comments: To: ed@dove.net.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit google.com is your friend.... a search here--> http://www.google.com/search?q=omnigo+100 reveals.... http://users.bentonrea.com/~adondo/hp/omnigo.htm http://www.mgroeber.de/omnigo.htm http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/1577/faq.html http://www.bluemarsh.com/geos/devices/ogo100.html http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/6778/palmtop/omni100.htm And ebay is a good place to find old valuable stuph: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1204051627 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1205215085 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Lomax" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx > On 3 Jan 2001, at 8:25, Longden Loo wrote: > > > << > > I must be missing something here - either I have been misled to > > think an OmniGo 100 (1mb ram) is a 100lx, or mine is a mutant - > > no ctrl key or Lotus key. Then there is the System Manager bit - > > go to what? '&' is not an option on any menu I have. Are we talking > > about the same beast? >> > > > > You have been misled. > > > > The OmniGo 100 was a short-lived product that evolved sometime after > > the 200LX and before the Jornada HPCs. OmniGo100's run the GEOS > > windowing system, and has both touchscreen and keyboard input. > > ok thanks!! now all I need to know is what I can do with this > OmniGo thing - does it have Dos or just Geos? No where in the > manual that came with it does it even mention Geos - so whats > new with the boffins at HP eh? My father was an exec for them 20 > years ago and their manuals sucked then too. > > Any tips people have for me now will ofcourse be much appreciated > as so far all has been a dead end ( a few web pages with little info), > news groups have been non-responsive, and so I suppose I will > continue to pester you all until you say the OmniGo 100 is off-topic > for a 100LX/200LX list :) > > Ed > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:51:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: XIP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > If I remember right, XIP will work on an sram card where it has > direct access. It's just more ram to the lx. But I'm pretty sure > it won't work on a flash card. Thaddeus Computing has a lot of used 1.5 Meg SRAM cards. People who want = one could check with them www.palmtoppaper.com Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:51:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Kingmax or Sandisk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Any thoughts on which is the best option? I have gotten lots of trouble-free use from my 2 Sandisk CF cards. I = would recommend them. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:06:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've seen some experiments where they have connected a Libretto 110 directly to the optic nerve of a blind man so that he can see. Since this is a VGA machine it would seem that the job would be easier to interface the relatively slow and grainier CGA output of the HPLX in the same way. In this way the eyestrain can be obviated. We would need to find a way to connect the LCD ribbon cable within a person's skull... and not make it messy. Perhaps some sort of shunt? There have also been experiments where paralyzed individuals can point a mouse pointer by 'thinking' about it. The interface measures the brain wave activity and moves the mouse pointer accordingly. Again, if something so complex as mouse movement and coordinates can be interfaced then the simple keyboard input of the LX can be likewise. This would be less messy as an external skull cap with electrodes can do the trick. However, you may have to shave the scalp. I suggest that, in lieu of the backlighting project, thaddeus and Hal Goldstein should embark on this project. Perhaps some of the medical professionals on this list can help develop the physical human interfaces? Feher, you always seem to suggest some very innovative ideas on how to better re-engineer the LX. I'm surprised that these never occurred to you. :-P ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feher Tamas" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX > Hello all, > > I don't agree with anyone claiming that you cannot damage your > eyes by looking at tiny things a lot. I'm actually suprised that no > german list member mentioned the most obvious case; J.S. Bach > and Handel both turned blind at age of 60 due to the immense > amount of partitia they wrote and copied. > > Also, reading tiny characters in a vibrating environment, like a train > or tram, must be very large strain on your eye-muscles. Maybe > someday someone invents a glasses with built-in image stabilizer, > just like in camcorders; but until that I would oppose using tinyests > screens, like those in 200LX and Psion5 for prologned time or while > on the move. > > BTW, those worried could try that VGA-out PCMCIA card which > works in the LX and use a desktop monitor when stationary. > > Sincerely: Tamas Feher > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:10:28 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , JonEarye Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JonEarye Subject: RE OL2LX NEED HELP! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C074EF.AB58C060" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C074EF.AB58C060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please could someone give me "basic" step by step setup for the above = program with either versions of outlook (which ever one is easier to set = up), i am a new lx200 and would be grateful very grateful for some help. Thankyou Jon=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C074EF.AB58C060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please could someone give me "basic" = step by step=20 setup for the above program with either versions of outlook (which ever = one is=20 easier to set up), i am a new lx200 and would be grateful very grateful = for some=20 help.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C074EF.AB58C060-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:46:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff HP Problems Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <004101c075a9$262a40c0$75fc36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/3/01 -0600, Barry wrote: > >>>>> But the other part is that the country is just HUGE - I can >probably drive ACROSS Europe and the distance will be about what it >takes to drive a quarter of the way across this country (USA). So >building a large infrastructure can be exceedingly costly. <<<<< > >I live in Texas, which is over 1,000 miles wide and over 1,000 miles >high. Unlike most states, cities are often very far apart and there >can easily be 50 miles of nothing between 2 cities. 100 miles isn't >unusual. Ýsnip more bragging about how large Texas is, and how many miles you cover to go to pee, fill up the gazoline tank, etc....¨ Barry, without sounding disrespectful here - but what is your point? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:43:29 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Happy New Year Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <003d01c075a5$b6c08da0$75fc36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/3/01 -0600, Barry wrote: > >>>>> So this leads to the inevitable conclusion that although our >current calendar is accurate within seconds per year, the period of >time elapsed over the past 2000 years is really not accurately >measured by the tool we used at this moment. I.e. - we are not >necessarily measuring the millenium. <<<<< > >It's silly to make this so complicated when it's really quite >simple. If we do know the exact changes that have been made in the >callender we can take them into account and probably come up with >something that will satisfy at least some of the astronomers. But >that's really the astronomer's job. And they're the ones who have >screwed it all up. > >Since they've managed to screw up the callender so much, why worry >about it? We can simply choose a starting number and go from there. >I like the logic of starting at 1 in this case, but I think the >world as a whole has chosen 0 as a starting number. Then count by >thousands and you're counting millenia. I don't worry about the calendar, or the millenium, or century etc. I was reflecting on how others are intense about it - that _this_ year was the start of the new millenium, not last year, bla bla bla... To me it is really silly - let's declare BOTH of these as the start of the millenium, then we haveTWO reasons to have a party and get together and talk about something really important like the australian cavewomen... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:19:04 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: XIP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well, we might find a use ( except as second grade flashdisks) for the Linear Flash Memory. This has (nearly) the same addressing as Sram. Writing a XIP driver to load and execute from linear flash would not be too hard. It usually gets (at least) a 64Kb window anyway. We could even copy the 200LX ROM to Flash, remap the ROM window to Flash, and presto - a 100LX becomes a 200LX ( with a lot more room for other XIP programs..). I have the full manual and specs of the Series2+ Flash I own, so I will look into it. ( used to write device drivers in a long forgotten time). -----Original Message----- From: Steve Carder Ýmailto:steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET¨ Sent: 03 January 2001 19:51 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: XIP > If I remember right, XIP will work on an sram card where it has > direct access. It's just more ram to the lx. But I'm pretty sure > it won't work on a flash card. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:21:44 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: New and improvd ultra goodie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well, I have tested it, and no luck yet. Can't decipher the CIS yet, ( dumped with LXCIC). I still think it should not be too much work, but I have (of course) not the PCMCIA addressing specs of the Click Plus PC-Card - the one with the separate Click drive. Trying some more -----Original Message----- From: Mack Baggette Ýmailto:mack@TIMES2TECH.COM¨ Sent: 02 January 2001 15:33 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: New and improvd ultra goodie > Just a thought: Would it work with the Iomega Click-Plus? The PC-Card > adapter for this identifies itself as a standard ATA card to e.g. Windows > CE. So Mack, if possible, can you mail me the driver so I can give it a try? > Michel I have a click drive and it won't fit in the 200LX unfortunately. I assume that means it is 3.3v only since the socket is keyed differently for 3.3v only cards. Cheers, Mack mailto:mack@times2tech.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 22:04:36 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx Comments: To: ed@dove.net.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Still nobody has a hint for me how to access DOS on the omnigo? > Not in the manuals I have with it, nor have I found it in the faq's. Are you talking about the first generation HP's that allow writing and have the fold-over screen assembly? As I recall, there was not much you could do when you got to dos - it contained a very limited subset of dos commands, I think. I don't think I have any of that information available anymore altho, it may be somewhere. Its miserable battery life was the killer aspect. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 23:32:05 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: News/LX News Server Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Listmembers, I think I'm right in saying that v2.2 Of WWW/LX is now unsupported, so I'm asking my question(s) here. All the newsgroups that I read are carried by my ISP's news server except one. (As an aside, I find it quite amusing that they carry all the alt.binaries, including children with horses etc., but not the Borland public group on object oriented design. I must be some sort of pervert.) Anyway, Q. Is there any way to override the default news server for just one group? Or failing that, can I stipulate more than one server to try? Thanks in advance, and Happy New Year to everyone (except Lars ;-) ) ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 23:32:15 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: FLUFF: Happy New Millennium MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys & Gals, Whether you believe this is the new millennium or not, I noticed one or two people misspelling the word as millenium. Here's a quick tip that could mean you're less likely to get it wrong the next time you use it (say, in another 1000 years time). Millennium comes from the Latin mille (meaning one thousand) + the accusative case of annus (meaning a year), hence one thousand years. Millenium, therefore, comes from mille + the accusative of anus, hence one thousand...well you get the picture. BTW, this was posted not because I'm a pedant (which I am) but because I hope you'll find it amusing. ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 23:32:25 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: In Praise of FlexPad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Listmembers, The program FlexPad crops up here from time-to-time, and I thought you may be interested in my experiences of using it. Until recently, the idea of abandoning the built-in apps was unthinkable. They were just so easy to use and full of nifty features. Others talked about FlexPad and using nothing else, so I gave it a quick whirl, twice, but wasn't convinced. A few months ago, a lady, (was it Christine?), posted some good comments here so I gave it a third time lucky run. This time it just clicked. It is, IMO, fantastic. I think that it is very similar in concept to PIM/LX used in conjunction with PalEdit. I found the interface and learning curve with FlexPad to be less daunting, so it won out. I also think that the PIM/LX & PE combination is ultimately more powerful, but FlexPad gives me everything I need. I have converted two phonebook files (business & personal), appointments/todos and a few .ndb and .gdb files to two FlexPad files. Total size of old files was 267k. FlexPad files are 185k total. Some things I like: * The files are 99% text, 1% binary. (100% text would have been better). * You can use the same program and data files on a desktop. * FlexPad has three font sizes and fn-zooms (and re-word wraps) on the LX. * You can have hypertext links to other files. * It can perform a sort of GREP function on multiple files and creates a hypertext link document of results, which even jump to the correct line. The hardest (and best) part about using the program is that there is no right way to use it. You have to impose your own disciplines on the data and structure. It's shareware so you can give it a whirl. You can download a fully functional trial version from http://www.jps.net/flexpad I have now joined the ranks of those who no longer use phone book, appointment book or notetaker. There was a pang of "guilt" at the start, but I don't miss them now. Hope this was of interest to someone. ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:01:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX Comments: To: etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU In-Reply-To: <3A52069D.5152.165669@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >I don't agree with anyone claiming that you cannot damage your eyes >by looking at tiny things a lot. I'm actually suprised that no >german list member mentioned the most obvious case; J.S. Bach and >Handel both turned blind at age of 60 due to the immense amount of >partitia they wrote and copied. Crap. Provable (and proven) medical/biological facts do not require your agreement. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain. Goethe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:41:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: FLUFF: Happy New Millennium Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Randle wrote: > Whether you believe this is the new millennium or not, I > noticed one or two people misspelling the word as millenium. I'll remember that for the next millenium if I'm still around for it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:45:00 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: News/LX News Server Question Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Here is the non-support reply. Yes, you can specify the server in the group itself, and that will be the one which will be used, instead of the one in the ÝNews¨ section. And what's this perveted comment about no happy new year for Lars? We all wish him a good year, with God's help! :-) ... Hope this helps. avi At 1/3/01 +0000, you wrote: >Dear Listmembers, > >I think I'm right in saying that v2.2 Of WWW/LX is now >unsupported, so I'm asking my question(s) here. > >All the newsgroups that I read are carried by my ISP's news >server except one. > >(As an aside, I find it quite amusing that they carry all the >alt.binaries, including children with horses etc., but not the >Borland public group on object oriented design. I must be some >sort of pervert.) > >Anyway, Q. Is there any way to override the default news >server for just one group? Or failing that, can I stipulate >more than one server to try? > >Thanks in advance, and Happy New Year to everyone (except Lars >;-) ) > >---------- > >Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 16:49:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: Happy New Millennium Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/3/01 +0000, Chris wrote: >Hi Guys & Gals, > >Whether you believe this is the new millennium or not, I >noticed one or two people misspelling the word as millenium. >Here's a quick tip that could mean you're less likely to get it >wrong the next time you use it (say, in another 1000 years >time). > >Millennium comes from the Latin mille (meaning one thousand) + >the accusative case of annus (meaning a year), hence one >thousand years. > >Millenium, therefore, comes from mille + the accusative of >anus, hence one thousand...well you get the picture. Ok. I have been misspelling the word, making it millenium, and thus forcing it into other roots, such as mille=1000 and anus=the southend of the digestive tract. Well... I suppose that represents _something_, although I cannot imagine what quite clearly :-) ... Enjoy this too. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:44:15 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx In-Reply-To: <20010103220433.JIZJ2072.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 3 Jan 2001, at 22:04, F. Kaufman wrote: > > Still nobody has a hint for me how to access DOS on the omnigo? Not > > in the manuals I have with it, nor have I found it in the faq's. > > Are you talking about the first generation HP's that allow writing and > have the fold-over screen assembly? yep thats the beast > As I recall, there was not much you could do when you got to dos - it > contained a very limited subset of dos commands, I think. I don't > think I have any of that information available anymore altho, it may > be somewhere. there are a few utilities for it in dos I have found now thanks to some of the url's I have been sent. So now just waiting on the arival of a cable and finding a suitable memory card and I will be able to do what I want with it (record 'go' games and all the organiser stuff) > Its miserable battery life was the killer aspect. yeh so I have heard - and Dos is even worse. Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:33:53 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Chris Collingwood Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Collingwood Subject: Re: FLUFF: Happy New Millennium Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Randle wrote: Ýsnip¨ > Millenium, therefore, comes from mille + the accusative of > anus, hence one thousand...well you get the picture. > > BTW, this was posted not because I'm a pedant (which I am) but > because I hope you'll find it amusing. > I Did ! -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I have no desire to receive email from advertisers or strangers. My posting to newsgroups is not an invitation to send me mail. No SPAM/UCE/UBE is ever welcome in my inbox. A proof-reading fee could be levied. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:43:22 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: In Praise of FlexPad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris, > PIM/LX & PE combination is ultimately more powerful, but > FlexPad gives me everything I need. To me this sentence is the key statement in your message "..gives me everything I need." Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:07:44 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Maps SIN, KUL, BKK, HKG, Et al MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Who on the list working on a project to put maps workable on the LX of SE Asian cities a koupla months ago? How's it koming along????? Interested in this idea. yor pal al......... ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:17:07 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Flexipad Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Chris Wat is the konversion routine that you used to konvert from LX DBs to Flexipad format? TIA yor pal al........ > The program FlexPad crops up here from > time-to-time, and I > thought you may be interested in my experiences > of using it. > > Until recently, the idea of abandoning the > built-in apps was > unthinkable. They were just so easy to use and > full of nifty > features. Others talked about FlexPad and using > nothing else, > so I gave it a quick whirl, twice, but wasn't > convinced. > > A few months ago, a lady, (was it Christine?), > posted some > good comments here so I gave it a third time > lucky run. This > time it just clicked. It is, IMO, fantastic. I > think that it > is very similar in concept to PIM/LX used in > conjunction with > PalEdit. I found the interface and learning > curve with FlexPad > to be less daunting, so it won out. I also > think that the > PIM/LX & PE combination is ultimately more > powerful, but > FlexPad gives me everything I need. > > I have converted two phonebook files (business > & personal), > appointments/todos and a few .ndb and .gdb > files to two > FlexPad files. Total size of old files was > 267k. FlexPad files > are 185k total. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:20:48 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Jacek Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Jacek Organization: @Home Network Subject: PostLX and RoboLX Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm just coming up to speed on the WWW/LX V3 suite and can't seem to find answers to the following: 1. Is there any way to have POST/LX move Electronic Mail into another folder based upon the originator? For example, I would like items originating from HPLX-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU to be moved into the HPLX Mailing List folder automagically. 2. I have two accounts at the same ISP. How can I tell POST/LX to download mail from the POP3 server for first account, but leave it on the server for my desktop system to grab later, while on the second POP3 account, download the mail and then delete it from the server? 3. Is there a killfile facility for Newsgroup articles? For example, the word "Visor" in comp.sys.palmtops postings generally indicates something I don't wish to read. Assistance greatly appreciated. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 07:40:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Happy New Year MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:53:34 -0600 > From: Barry > Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Happy New Year > > >>>>> So this leads to the inevitable conclusion that although our > current calendar is accurate within seconds per year, the period of <> . . . snip . . . <> > > Millenium is a meaningless concept anyway. It's just a round number > in our current most commonly used non-technical counting system. > People like round numbers so they've chosen 2000 as the start of the > new millenium. And if you think I'm going to start a fight with 5 > billion drunken revellers, you're mistaken. 2000 it is. > > If we want to be serious about a technically correct millenium, we > should use hexidecimal counting. Ok, we do have 10 fingers, but we I've always maintained that the thumb is just there for a parity bit, allowing binary/hex counting of up to 0xF/0b1111 on each hand! Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - <> . . . snip . . . <> > > Barry (the unconfused) > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:51:53 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: FoxBase, etc In-Reply-To: <000601c0754b$07830d40$4c1bc1cf@computer1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="36724731" This is a multipart message in MIME format --36724731 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Here is the TTLX.zip file. Use PKunzip.exe to extract the files into the subdirectory where you keep your Lotus spreadsheets on your LX. In Lotus, use /File Retrieve TT-LX.wk1. 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I'd tried different drivers in 3 LXs. On one of the 200LX, the clicking works, but can't move the pointer. On the other 200LX and 100LX nothing. No movement at all. The mouse works on the desktop. I'd tried CTmouse, driver from the manufacturer site and MS mouse driver, but no luck. I used to hv a mouse that works with my first 200LX, so there must be something I'd missed. Any suggestion? I use lxstat to chk the com port and it is on. And each time the driver did confirme that they were installed successfully. And yes, I hv the null modem adaptor connected. TiA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 16:26:59 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Luca Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Luca Subject: R: In Praise of FlexPad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I am too a happy registered user of the programm Flexpad. I confirm that this programm is too for me the best and definitive PIM programm for the HP200LX. The paradigm is the same of the PIM and PE bundle, but I can use this programm directly on my desktop, without Palrun. I no longer use phone book, appointment book or notetaker. I have two session of Software Carousel running Flexpad. In the first I run a Diary file, in the second a Telephon file where I collect the sensitive, long time Information. Luca Zanetti, Italy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:39:26 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx ÝFluff¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> don't know where Fotlands site is but I seriously doubt this as the last time I played MFgo I gave it 9 stones and won as normal. I am only about 2kyu and from what I can gather from the bods in rec.games.go the strongest of all the go playing programs plays at around 3kyu (Japanese ranking) and this is not MFgo. Anyway I would need something other than a 100lx to play it I suspect, and I have moved away from playing computers as the plays are too predictable. <<<<<< Fotland's site is at http://pw1.netcom.com/~fotland/manyfaces.html But I wasnt able to get into it today. I do remember that he said his latest (version 10) was playing at 2 or 3 dan and won the world's computer go championship a year or two ago. But I don't remember which ranking system he was using. However, while looking for that information today I did run into a review where the 1kyu reviewer said he beat it easily while giving it some stones. So maybe Fotland overestimated. Anyway his site will surely be back up before long. I do know that MFGO 9.0 was suppoed to play about 13kyu. I haven't played much in a few years but at my best I was about 12kyu so most of the time MFGO was good practice for me. By the way, I also learned from his site that he's an engineer for HP. So maybe this is on topic. Nah! :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:52:26 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> The OmniGo 100 was a short-lived product that evolved sometime after the 200LX and before the Jornada HPCs. OmniGo100's run the GEOS windowing system, and has both touchscreen and keyboard input. <<<<<< Actually the Omnigo does have dos underneath Geos. Dalight Dos, I believe, as did the Zoomer before it. Geos is a little like Win 3.1, in that it sits on top of Dos. But on the Zoomer it was hard to get to and wouldn't run anything that needed much IO, or much of anything else. Most of the Dos programs that would work on it were such things as filters. I suspect thats the same on the Omnigo. I did write some Dos stuff that could access the screen and buttons properly but this was custom software. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:03:14 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> Any tips people have for me now will ofcourse be much appreciated as so far all has been a dead end ( a few web pages with little info), news groups have been non-responsive, and so I suppose I will continue to pester you all until you say the OmniGo 100 is off-topic for a 100LX/200LX list :) <<<<< I hope you didn't pay much for it. If you did, I'd suggest holding on to it till it becomes a collector's item. I don't think they made all that many of them. Since hardly anybody ever heard of them I don't know that anybody will want to collect them but there's always hope. There don't seem to be any Omnigos on Ebay or Yahoo auctions. Ebay did have a couple of accessories for Omnigos. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:13:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX ÝFluff¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> Again, if something so complex as mouse movement and coordinates can be interfaced then the simple keyboard input of the LX can be likewise. <<<<<< I tried this but I found that a sneeze can destroy several hours work. The reaction to a mosquito byte was a formatted flash card. I swear that bug flew off with a proud smile. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:52:22 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: PostLX and RoboLX Questions Comments: To: Gary Jacek In-Reply-To: <3A543260.C7425415@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/4/01 -0800, Gary Jacek wrote: >I'm just coming up to speed on the WWW/LX V3 suite and >can't seem to find answers to the following: These are perfect questions to ask at support@dasoft.com! But I am glad you asked publicly, because: (1) I can answer them :) (2) Other people may have the same questions and so now here are the answers. >1. Is there any way to have POST/LX move > Electronic Mail into another folder > based upon the originator? For example, > I would like items originating from > HPLX-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU to be moved into > the HPLX Mailing List folder automagically. This is the function of a filter. The filter provides two pieces of information to the program: What to look for, and what to do with the message when the required content is found. Since we are talking about managing messages, the program involved is POST.EXE, and its parameters are in POST.CFG. You can add filters easily in two ways. From inside POST.EXE you press CTRL-E and it brings up the SETUP.EXE program. If you close POST.EXE you can run SETUP.EXE from the prompt (but make sure POST.EXE is CLOSED!!!) Or, if you adventurous enough and have good backups you can edit POST.CFG directly. Let's do CTRL-E. The menu of functions shows up. Press F8, then tab to Filters. It may just show a window with "" in it. Select .The first input is WHAT you want the program to look for. I have EXACTLY what you are asking for - my HPLX messages come in through a mailbox, and I route the messages to a folder called HPLX. The common thing to all HPLX Messages is that email address - they all come from "hplx-l@uconn..." So I tell the program to look for "hplx-l@" (Don't put in the quotes). Press Enter. The next input is the name of the folder where the message with "hplx-l@" in it will go to. I entered "HPLX". Remember, you must also define that folder. Press Enter, and your filter is done. From the menu press F7 to add the folder. To add a folder press Alt-A (the shortcut for the ADD button). the File name is what you will later see in the directory, so it must be no more than 8 characters, and a valid file name in DOS. No extensions, since POST/LX will make his own. I made it HPLX. Press Enter. The next prompt is the directory. I put all my folders in the same subdirectory as POST.EXE and WWW.EXE. Since you will route mesdsages to this folder the folder must be onan available drive during online. What I mean is this: If you use a PCMCIA card for folders, and a PCMCIA modem, you CANNOT put HPLX on the A: drive - since there will be no A: drive during your online run. The next item is Alias: What do you want to show on the POST/LX Main screen as the folder name. You can leave it blank, and POST/LX will show "HPLX". Or you can say "That wild and wooly list" :) ... The separator message is added after each run with just dashes, to separate visually messages from each run. The sets is a way to show only some folders on the screen - read up on it in the POST/LX documentation (Use program DOCIFY.EXE to print the Help Topic...) >2. I have two accounts at the same ISP. > How can I tell POST/LX to download mail from > the POP3 server for first account, but leave > it on the server for my desktop system to grab > later, while on the second POP3 account, > download the mail and then delete it from the server? CTRL-E, F4, select the box, press Enter. Look at the bottom of the screen, there is a checkbox with the legend: "Delete After Download". This means, delete the messages after they are downloaded to the Palmtop. If the box is checked, messages WILL be deleted. If the box is not checked, messages will remain on the server. Post/LX will keep track of what it already downloaded once and not download it again. I do it all the time... >3. Is there a killfile facility for Newsgroup articles? > For example, the word "Visor" in comp.sys.palmtops > postings generally indicates something I don't wish > to read. In News2.EXE it is the filters for Newsgroups. In RoboNews/LX I'll let Tony answer - he is the author of the program. >Assistance greatly appreciated. I am pleased you posted the questions here... Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:23:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: News/LX News Server Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Anyway, Q. Is there any way to override the default news > server for just one group? Or failing that, can I stipulate > more than one server to try? I don't know the program you're using but Borland has their own news servers available from the web on their site. I've accessed them with Outlook Express, usually. I also have an account with www.newsfeeds.com, which provides every imaginable newsgroup and long retention times and, in the case of binary newsgroups, all the parts of the files. They also have a web access method of you don't want to use a newsreader, although the newsreader does work much better. I have to pay for them but they're far superior to the news server supplied by my isp. I don't know that they'll work with the LX but at least the web reader probably will. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:03:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim Saklad wrote: > >I don't agree with anyone claiming that you cannot damage your eyes > >by looking at tiny things a lot. I'm actually suprised that no > >german list member mentioned the most obvious case; J.S. Bach and > >Handel both turned blind at age of 60 due to the immense amount of > >partitia they wrote and copied. > > Crap. > > Provable (and proven) medical/biological facts do not require your agreement. When I had my eyes checked last I was told I have retinal burn damage from staring at CRTs for so many years. Not really serious though, but enough to be noticable and a problem. No mention of any permanent damage caused by eyestrain from the tiny font on the 200LX screen. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:06:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Kingmax or Sandisk Comments: To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve Carer wrote: > I have gotten lots of trouble-free use from my 2 Sandisk CF cards. I > would > recommend them. > I have one PCMCIA Sandisk and one IBM CF,both have worked trouble-free. Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 15:04:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jack Schudel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack Schudel Subject: TN3270 for WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a version of TN3270 that will work with WWW/LX V3? Thanks. /jack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:31:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jay Summet Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jay Summet Subject: FORSALE: HP200lx 2MB for sale on Ebay w/ Extrals. Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello there, I have a used HP200lx 2MB PalmTop up for sale on Ebay, bidding starts at 99 cents. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1205729861 Includes original manual and box, the RS232 cable with adaptors (9-25/null modem), NIMH AA batteries, and an extra 2MB SRAM card for storage. Very good overall condition, with only two things you need to know about: 1) Needs a new backup battery (I haven't been using it lately, and finally decided to sell it...) 2) Screen (clamshell) hindge is slightly loose, so the screen slowly falls to a fully opened state when open, doesn't bother me much, as this is where I normally use it. It's been a good computer, but I stoped working on Network equiptment so much (don't need it as a dumb terminal) and everything else I did with it (schedule/phonebook/etc) can be done on my Palm V. Jay Summet -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBOlTe27WkkhmZq4xxAQHNoAP+MeqZzVHakLSiGoQfAQTFhK0vjTzX/H7r j6bzr2ZUdp2rl6wQvORZsbo1oK9X4VdgPC1WcojZPPNGvTf0KvN+iTeRTS41+C+W GP7paiM8UJehgaRnjk2OhnCwVaOlZrMt6OyyIRUBLRRWV0YMmi5dahWrJNjj6kYU FRNVo8QtTuw= =+e0M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 21:11:20 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , JonEarye Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JonEarye Subject: RE OL2LX Outlook Sync MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C075C9.B8561760" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C075C9.B8561760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please can someone tell me how to set this program up!! 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Please can someone tell me how to set = this program=20 up!!
 
PLEASE!
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C075C9.B8561760-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 06:21:53 +0800 Reply-To: star_byte@iprimus.com.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harry Oldenhuis Subject: Re: FORSALE: HP200lx 2MB for sale on Ebay w/ Extrals. Comments: To: Jay Summet In-Reply-To: <01010412364302.25803@summet.rcn.orst.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello Jay as you askt 99 cents I will ofer you $1 for it :) Cheers Harry -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Jay Summet Sent: Friday, 5 January 2001 4:31 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: FORSALE: HP200lx 2MB for sale on Ebay w/ Extrals. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello there, I have a used HP200lx 2MB PalmTop up for sale on Ebay, bidding starts at 99 cents. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1205729861 Includes original manual and box, the RS232 cable with adaptors (9-25/null modem), NIMH AA batteries, and an extra 2MB SRAM card for storage. Very good overall condition, with only two things you need to know about: 1) Needs a new backup battery (I haven't been using it lately, and finally decided to sell it...) 2) Screen (clamshell) hindge is slightly loose, so the screen slowly falls to a fully opened state when open, doesn't bother me much, as this is where I normally use it. It's been a good computer, but I stoped working on Network equiptment so much (don't need it as a dumb terminal) and everything else I did with it (schedule/phonebook/etc) can be done on my Palm V. Jay Summet ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:57:10 -0500 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: FW: RE OL2LX Outlook Sync MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004C_01C07677.C37CB690" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C07677.C37CB690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jon, I am sorry I could not reply to you sooner when you emailed me directly. Here is all I did, and it works fine. First I extracted the OL2LXinst.exe to a specific folder on my laptop and created a desktop shortcut to ol2lx.exe. Next, whenever I go to synchronize, I copy my appt.adb and phone.pdb files over to this folder on my laptop. To do this, I use either Transfile via Infrared, or I just take the flashcard out of my laptop and put it in the PCMCIA slot on my laptop then copy it to my c:\palmtop\ol2lx folder on my laptop where OL2LX also resides. I then execute OL2LX, make sure it is pointing to the correct .adb and .pdb files . In the Contacts screen, I select the synchronize radio button, then Convert Contacts. On the lower half of the screen, (Calendar/Tasks), I have convert appts and convert tasks checked, HPLX to Outlook radio button selected (the only choice) then I click Convert Calendar/Tasks. This works fine for me. Jim ------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C07677.C37CB690 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jon,
   I am sorry I could not reply to = you sooner=20 when you emailed me directly.  Here is all I did, and it works = fine. =20 First I extracted the OL2LXinst.exe to a specific folder on my laptop = and=20 created a desktop shortcut to ol2lx.exe.
Next,=20 whenever I go to synchronize, I copy my appt.adb and phone.pdb files = over to=20 this folder on my laptop.  To do this, I use either Transfile via = Infrared,=20 or I just take the flashcard out of my laptop and put it in the PCMCIA = slot on=20 my laptop then copy it to my c:\palmtop\ol2lx folder on my laptop where = OL2LX=20 also resides.
 
I then=20 execute OL2LX, make sure it is pointing to the correct .adb and .pdb = files=20 .  In the Contacts screen, I select the synchronize radio button, = then=20 Convert Contacts.  On the lower half of the screen, = (Calendar/Tasks), I=20 have convert appts and convert tasks checked, HPLX to Outlook radio = button=20 selected (the only choice) then I click Convert Calendar/Tasks. =20
 
This=20 works fine for me.
 
Jim
 
------=_NextPart_000_004C_01C07677.C37CB690-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:16:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: Mouse problem Comments: To: rogerswn@I-CABLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger, Try it with just a gender changer. I think the null modem may be your problem. William E. Blankenship Roger Shea wrote: > And yes, I hv the null modem > adaptor connected. > TiA > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:23:23 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: memo question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Steve, Awesome idea! Except for the extra funny looking characters at the end (I think its from the page break or something), its exactly what I need. Do you have any idea on how I can get rid of them? Also, I save the print file always to the same directory called c:\mail. Do I always have to type it in before the filename (the default is in another directory for some reason) or is there a way to default it to c:\mail? regards, Oliver >One way to do this is have Memo print your message to a file. Memo will = >carriage return at the end of each line as defined by the left and right = >you give it. If you know the name of the file your E-mail program is >exepecting, then just have Memo print to a file with that name. > >Steve Carder > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:21:22 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: memo question Oliver Chua writes: > Steve, > > Awesome idea! Except for the extra funny looking characters at the end (I > think its from the page break or something), its exactly what I need. Do > you have any idea on how I can get rid of them? Also, I save the print > file always to the same directory called c:\mail. Do I always have to type > it in before the filename (the default is in another directory for some > reason) or is there a way to default it to c:\mail? I agree. I use PNR with Memo for my e-mail, and this is the best tip I've had in a while. I too would like to know about avoiding/preventing the grunge at the bottom. Perhaps the page length setting is a possibility. (some programs will do no page breaks if you set to page length to 0). As far as typing the name and path, I'm planning on making a simple HP System Macro to handle that part of it. Thanks Steve, Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 18:48:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: 2GB microdrive Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > And the IBM Microdrive may not be standing still either. As it has been gaining > a following among digicam users (except among climber-photographers who can't > use it at high altitudes > 10,000ft), the digicam discussion groups have been > dismissing the average $500 price as "old", with some photo supply shops > (www.pictureline.com, www.eppersonphoto.com/indexOrig.html) listing the 1gb > Microdrive for $360-$380. I haven't bought from any of those stores, so I don't > know if they're legit or good to deal with. > > So maybe a 2gb IBM Microdrive is in the works? Regardless of who makes it, I > hope they lower the power requirements too ... either that or add a keyboard and > DOS to my camera . I heard some rumors - which I did not substantiate that IBM is now testing a 2.5GB and a 5GB microdrive. > > - Longden > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:59:32 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Fluff - Happy New Year MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Ed Lomax wrote: > maybe we should all switch to the Japanese calendar as it is > always based on the number of years of reign of the current > emporer - Heisei 12 I think at the moment. I like the joke about the Chinese man who said, "I know it's the new year, but I keep writing dragon on my cheques." ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:59:34 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Fluff HP Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Barry wrote: > Distances in the United states are probably different than in other > countries and distances in Texas are much greater yet. Barry, are you, therefore, an advocate of the "America is bigger, so the oil should be cheaper" theory? It seems to me that's like saying, "my stomach is bigger than yours, so my food should be cheaper". Mind you, America seems to bear that theory out too. (How to piss off 98% of the list members, I suppose a smiley won't save me? ;-) ) ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:59:40 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Flexipad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, hobchi rote: > Chris > Wat is the konversion routine that > you used to konvert from LX DBs to > Flexipad format? Nearly all of a FlexPad file is plain text. There are just a few "labels" that you add that guide FlexPad in the interpretation of the data. These labels look like text, but are stored as binary. I used a SmartClip to output to a text file and then imported. If you know in advance where a label might be needed, you can put some significant char(s) in the SmartClip (e.g. preceed each phone book entry with ##) then search and replace with a label once in FlexPad. FlexPad has a separate program to import .adb files, but in the end I decided to use a combination of smart clip export and manual adding of labels. The whole "philosophy" of information storage is different, so I spent quite a long time meddling with the data once I'd got it there until I found a scheme that served my needs. As I said, it's both its strength and its weakness that imposes almost no structure on the data. Hobchi, does your spellchecker ever GPF? ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:59:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: News/LX News Server Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, A Meshar wrote: > Here is the non-support reply. Yes, you can specify the server in the = group > itself, and that will be the one which will be used, instead of the one = in > the ÝNews¨ section. Thanks Avi (& Tony) for support above and beyond, as usual. I almost feel guilty about posting a derogatory remark about Americans (albeit a Texan). Almost. ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:59:48 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: News/LX News Server Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Barry wrote: > I don't know the program you're using but Borland has their own news > servers available from the web on their site. I've accessed them > with Outlook Express, usually. Thanks Barry. I'd been reading it from their web site and I had a couple of servers I could have used, but I thought that the News/LX program could only be configured to connect to one - I was mistaken. News/LX is part of D&A's WWW/LX suite. It differs from most Microsoft software in that it works without the constant crashing, rebooting and reinstalling that has become the hallmark of "the finest software company in the world" as they were descibed to me, in all seriousness, by one of my customers the other day. ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:00:18 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx In-Reply-To: <000b01c0766e$b7d8e920$52fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 4 Jan 2001, at 10:52, Barry wrote: > >>> The OmniGo 100 was a short-lived product that evolved sometime > after the 200LX and before the Jornada HPCs. OmniGo100's run the > GEOS windowing system, and has both touchscreen and keyboard input. > <<<<<< > > Actually the Omnigo does have dos underneath Geos. Dalight Dos, I > believe, as did the Zoomer before it. Geos is a little like Win 3.1, > in that it sits on top of Dos. But on the Zoomer it was hard to get > to and wouldn't run anything that needed much IO, or much of anything > else. Most of the Dos programs that would work on it were such things > as filters. I suspect thats the same on the Omnigo. > > I did write some Dos stuff that could access the screen and buttons > properly but this was custom software. > > Barry After looking around on the various websites I have located now (thx for all urls posted people) It seems that it is probably best not to use dos on the thing for reason of short battery life. I have therefore started to investigate the IZL programming language to see if I can make a simple sgf editor. Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:05:26 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx ÝFluff¨ In-Reply-To: <000701c0766c$e7531060$52fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 4 Jan 2001, at 10:39, Barry wrote: > >>>>> don't know where Fotlands site is but I seriously doubt this > as the last time I played MFgo I gave it 9 stones and won as normal. I > am only about 2kyu and from what I can gather from the bods in > rec.games.go the strongest of all the go playing programs plays at > around 3kyu (Japanese ranking) and this is not MFgo. Anyway I would > need something other than a 100lx to play it I suspect, and I have > moved away from playing computers as the plays are too predictable. > <<<<<< > > Fotland's site is at > http://pw1.netcom.com/~fotland/manyfaces.html > But I wasnt able to get into it today. I do remember that he said his > latest (version 10) was playing at 2 or 3 dan and won the world's > computer go championship a year or two ago. But I don't remember > which ranking system he was using. got to his site and he states 8kyu at best. He has released a 9x9 version that is quite strong though, called Igowin which is a freeware release I think. that you can get from kiseido.com Fotland is a bit of a legend in the internet go playing community as he puts MFGO up on two of the playing sites free of charge for people to play, and has consistently placed well in the go programs championships. > > However, while looking for that information today I did run into a > review where the 1kyu reviewer said he beat it easily while giving it > some stones. So maybe Fotland overestimated. Anyway his site will > surely be back up before long. > > I do know that MFGO 9.0 was suppoed to play about 13kyu. > > I haven't played much in a few years but at my best I was about > 12kyu so most of the time MFGO was good practice for me. is that a net rank or AGA (American Go Association rank)? either way not bad at all. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:33:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: memo question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Except for the extra funny looking characters at the end > I save the print file always to the same directory called c:\mail. > Do I always have to type it in before the filename I would use a System Macro to do both jobs. Type a test message. Then = start recording a macro. Go through the process of printing the message to a = disk file, including typing in the directory you need. While still recording = the macro, load the printed file back into Memo and jump to the end. Delete = the extra characters and save the file again. Now stop recording the Macro. = Test this a few times to be sure it works, then you are ready to go. You = could have the Macro type in a signature line at the end of the message before it = prints the message to the disk file Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 03:09:33 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx Comments: To: ed@dove.net.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Still nobody has a hint for me how to access DOS on the omnigo? > Not in the manuals I have with it, nor have I found it in the faq's. Funny, while scrounging around in my desk drawer at work I came across a nice Gold and Black HP Pen with the OmniGo Logo. The pen is one of those rotating stylus jobbies with a pen and stylus for screen writing depending on which way you turn the barrel. I have to admit to being one of a number of TeamHP folks on CIS and we did receive advance training on these devices by HP and did receive machines to learn on. We were strictly volunteers but did get models of some of the units. I've got in my arsenal the Omnigo100 and Omnigo120 (which had a somewhat holographic screen). There were actually a few test HP100 (200's???) sent out by HP for testing which also had that screen. Some folks liked them, some did not. They attempted to capture ambient light on a bright orangey-green screen and reflect it back. Angle could be critical in low lighting. Well, just some fluff I decided to post. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 20:10:31 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: New gadget MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii SONY announced a new digital still kamera on a memory stick for da memory stick slot. Happy Thipussan, yor pal al............ ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 06:13:45 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: MS project on the 200lx Comments: To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Korthof?= In-Reply-To: <3A3A84F8.838FE012@eu-vorteile.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hallo, I 'm not with the performance of PRO on the LX , unable to zoom. I'm interested to test easy project any experiences with this. I was not able to open the exe file, ( return to DOS ) any help / hint. Thanks for that ! regards, Michael from Schwabach !! -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of J|rgen Korthof Sent: Freitag, Dezember 15, 2000 21.54 Uhr To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: MS project on the 200lx Hans Peter Staber schrieb: > Try PRO/LX from www.dasoft.com. It's small, free and runs well on the > HP200LX. I gave up on MSProj and converted to PRO/LX. It will export to > a CDF file format which loads as table into WinProj. > Sounds interesting to me. Unfortunately i can4t find it at dasoft.com. Could you please recheck your source. Thanks alot! Happly LXing, Juergen. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 06:14:46 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Fluff - Happy New Year MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To Avi Meshar, Ed Lomax, Owen Morgaan, Barry and others interested in the subject: on issues surrounding Jesus' birth and life you have it all wrong! I must admit a fair bit of interest in the subject, but I won't bother this list with more religious stuff. If you are interested in a different set of facts i can send them to you in an e-mail. NatMD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:28:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: WTB: HP AC Adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B5F391B877F5C90AE6B11941" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B5F391B877F5C90AE6B11941 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all; My AC Adapter for the 200LX (HP F1011A) has given up the ghost. So, I was wondering if anyone had a extra one that they'd be willing to sell me (For less than the $40 that Thaddeus wants for it.)? Please reply off list. Thanks. Regards, Richard Smith --------------B5F391B877F5C90AE6B11941 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="seronac.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard and Patti Smith Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="seronac.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://seronac.freeservers.com/ adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:it's about control. fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------B5F391B877F5C90AE6B11941-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:53:22 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kheehua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kheehua Subject: Re: WTB: HP AC Adapter Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just use a generic AC to DC adaptor with 12 VDC output, centre pin negative. Less than $20 for a 1000mA unit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard and Patti Smith" To: Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 2:28 PM Subject: WTB: HP AC Adapter > Hello all; > > My AC Adapter for the 200LX (HP F1011A) has given up the ghost. So, I > was wondering if anyone had a extra one that they'd be willing to sell > me (For less than the $40 that Thaddeus wants for it.)? Please reply off > list. > > Thanks. > > Regards, > Richard Smith > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:05:23 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: LED light updata Comments: cc: luettjohann@gmx.de, mail@thorsten-gaertner.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I just wanted to let you know that I updated my LED light page at http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight It contained a few errors which are now corrected (wrong pin assignment of the LEDs! How embarassing! ;-)) and I uploaded a much better photo of my own light on which you can see how the LEd light works. BTW: I'll soon set up a LED light for auction on ebay. I made a few, one for a friend, one spare for me and the third will go to someone of you, if you're interested. I'll post here when I set up the auction! GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 08:05:30 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: FLUFF: Happy New Millennium Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Ken, On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:41:56 -0500, KenLondon wrote: > Chris Randle wrote: > > > Whether you believe this is the new millennium or not, I > > noticed one or two people misspelling the word as millenium. > > I'll remember that for the next millenium if I'm still around for it. You didn't even remember it for THIS one! ;-) GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:24:11 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: News/LX News Server Question Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Chris, At 1/4/01 +0000, you wrote: >News/LX is part of D&A's WWW/LX suite. It differs from most >Microsoft software in that it works without the constant >crashing, rebooting and reinstalling that has become the >hallmark of "the finest software company in the world" as they >were descibed to me, in all seriousness, by one of my >customers the other day. Nah!!! D&A? Wow! Who was that? Send me his email, I want to thank him in person! :) Thanks for the kind words. It is awfully nice to hear, but terribly hard to live up to such an implied reputation. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:21:38 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: News/LX News Server Question Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Chris, At 1/4/01 +0000, you wrote: >On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, A Meshar wrote: > > > Here is the non-support reply. Yes, you can specify the server in the group > > itself, and that will be the one which will be used, instead of the one in > > the ÝNews¨ section. > >Thanks Avi (& Tony) for support above and beyond, as usual. You are welcome - but this was not support, officially, at least! We do not support News/LX any more, although for now it seems to work. >I almost feel guilty about posting a derogatory remark about >Americans (albeit a Texan). Almost. Totally different thing - American vs. Texan. Even though we have a texan who is now up and coming to become the president of the USofA. I think the oil prices discussion is a bit dumb: Each country has something that it is better at producing, pricing, managing - whatever, some relative advantage by comparison to other countries. This is like the first 3 hours of Macroeconomics. So our gasoline prices are lower, but _your_ (UK) advantage is the Royals. I mean it as an export - the UK really does make tons of money on the "royal" things - stories, pictures, and on and on ... I am making this a real trivial comparison so as to nt start another Jihad here... So anyway, we trade - you give us royals, we give you something else that we have an advantage at. Eventually, things balance out. Maybe not between UK and USofA, but across the globe things _do_ balance out. Maybe not this year or in the past 5 years, but eventually... So if you want to make a derogatory comment about Americans, do it. We are bigger than even Texas is! :) ... We'll just shove the low fuel prices back up your nose - to piss you off... :) --- see? Things balance out. You ask a good question about our products, we give a good answer. Again, things balance out. All the best - regards to J. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 23:57:58 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: WTB: HP AC Adapter Comments: To: Kheehua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I just use a generic AC to DC adaptor with 12 VDC output, centre pin negative. > Less than $20 for a 1000mA unit. > Best way to go unless yu travel and need the 220. BTW: I've seen other peeople selling the 110/220 form factor one with a diff brand name for other gadgets but was not sure of polarity, so didn't bother with it. yor pal al.................... ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:13:50 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: MS project on the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hallo, > I 'm not with the performance of PRO on the LX , unable to zoom. I'm > interested to test easy project any experiences with this. > > I was not able to open the exe file, ( return to DOS ) any help / hint. I call MS-Project with the following batch file commands in order to set the screen : mode mono proj mode co80 The first line sets the display to "monocolor" and the last line sets it back to the original value. Probably you will also need to hit Fn-Zoom to get to the right Zoom level for the display. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:59:21 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Hints wanted for screen repair MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" So I acquired a battered $20 2 MB HP200LX series SG6.. in decent working order, except that ever second vertical scan line happpens to be missing. Dismantling and cleaning the display contacts didn't help a bit. After a week I found that severely bending the screen happened to restore the missing lines (utterly temporary). Since this is a fairly global problem, it might just be solvable with a single repair somewhere. Anybody who can give me a hint where I might start looking on the circuit board for broken traces?. ( e.g. which chip to start with?) I also noted that connection 3 of the cable connector has no power. May this be the problem? Any hints appreciated. ( Alternatively: anyone with a dead 200LX with a decent screen around somewhere in the EC?....) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 07:53:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: New ISP, Earthlink? Comments: To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele_?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:07:51 +0100, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= wrote: > Earthlink is known here in Germany as one of the bigges > t US spammers who > doesn't give a **** on customers' complaints. I personally > receive about > one spam a week sent out via earthlink servers, so I > completely blocked > it. > > => If you don't want to support spammers, please do n > ot subscribe to > earthlink. I don't see the same pattern in the US. That is, spam is no more likely to come from earthlink than from other ISPs. For many years I used Netcom with my LX and WWW/LX. Netcom was bought out by Mindspring and everything still worked. Then Mindspring was bought out by Earthlink, and everything still worked. I did drop Earthlink, but that was because I switched to a cable modem service that is also their own ISP. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:19:01 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: LED light update Comments: cc: luettjohann@gmx.de, mail@thorsten-gaertner.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi again, I'm sorry: The www server where all but 1 of the pictures of the LED light page are located seems to be down at the moment. So you will only see one picture on the led light page. If you are interested in the other pictures, please try it again tomorrow or the day after. The data on the www server in my university gets updated every day at 4am MET, today in the morning something went wrong it seems.... This problem appears quite often and usually it disappears again after max. 2 days. GTX daniel > I just wanted to let you know that I updated my LED light page at > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 06:13:51 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: New gadget Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << SONY announced a new digital still kamera on a memory stick for da memory stick slot. >> Are you talking about this? -> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0101/01010502infostickbluetooth.asp This is bluetooth on a stick for wireless networking, but not a camera on a stick (which would be one heck of a small camera). Let me know if you have another link. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 06:48:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 2GB microdrive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << > So maybe a 2gb IBM Microdrive is in the works? Regardless of who makes it, I > hope they lower the power requirements too ... either that or add a keyboard and > DOS to my camera . I heard some rumors - which I did not substantiate that IBM is now testing a 2.5GB and a 5GB microdrive. >> That's a lot of bytes to chew on. Then I could use my 200LX to backup my desktop, or maybe run my Omnibook 800CT entirely off Win95b on the CF card (tho the power-hogging-but-gorgeous TFT display is probably the main culprit). And as they greatly improved the power consumption going from the 340mb model to the 1GB, perhaps they will continue that trend into the new ones .... one can hope. This would be in line with the market demands as digicam user feedback often seem to mention power consumption (ie battery life) as a primary concern. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2000 10:14:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: FLUFF: Happy New Millennium Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Ken, > > On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:41:56 -0500, KenLondon wrote: > > > Chris Randle wrote: > > > > > Whether you believe this is the new millennium or not, I > > > noticed one or two people misspelling the word as millenium. > > > > I'll remember that for the next millenium if I'm still around for it. > > You didn't even remember it for THIS one! ;-) > > GTX > daniel > > -- > Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de > home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de > mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 > unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 Note: I copied the word directly from your post...... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:22:25 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Fluff - Happy New Year ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Randle" >I like the joke about the Chinese man who said, "I know it's >the new year, but I keep writing dragon on my cheques." This one you'll have to explain... :-) br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 11:56:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: TN3270 for WWW/LX Comments: To: Jack Schudel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:43:50 -0500 (EST) Hi Jack(and All): I use the Clarkson U package. Let me know if you want my setup. I can dial-in OK, but I haven66t yet been able to go accross the LAN. I need to change something in config.tel probably...the LAN server doesn66t seem to accept bootp? Cheers...AJKind 19h39m05s ago ... On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Jack Schudel wrote: > Is there a version of TN3270 that will work with WWW/LX V3? > > Thanks. > > /jack > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:06:02 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Happy New Year MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I've always maintained that the thumb > is just there for a parity bit, allowing > binary/hex counting of up to 0xF/0b1111 > on each hand! While that may have been it's original intention I think such things as gamma rays are unlikely to flip the finger. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:11:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Mouse Problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I use lxstat to chk the com port and it is > on. And each time the driver did confirme > that they were installed successfully. And > yes, I hv the null modem adaptor connected. I think I'd look around for an old Microsoft mouse driver. I wouldn't be surprised if the ones in recent years use 386 opcodes. I know people have used mice on the various lx's. I have one dated 2/2/90 if you don't have one avaialble. If you want it, email me at barryATfbtcDOTnet. You know what to do with AT and DOT, presumably. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:21:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > When I had my eyes checked last I was told I have > retinal burn damage from staring at CRTs for so > many years. Not really serious though, but enough > to be noticable and a problem. No mention of any > permanent damage caused by eyestrain from the > tiny font on the 200LX screen. I've read over the years that emissions from CRT's might be damaging to the eyes. I don't think that's related to eyestrain, though. I've also read that there are other health concerns about CRT emissions as well, including the possibility of genetic damage. I'm not sure how serious all this is or how much might already have been done in the design of CRTs to make them safer. I've never heard or read anything one way or the other about LCDs giving off emissions. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 13:38:15 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff HP Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Barry, are you, therefore, an advocate of the "America is > bigger, so the oil should be cheaper" theory? It seems to me > that's like saying, "my stomach is bigger than yours, so my > food should be cheaper". Mind you, America seems to bear that > theory out too. (How to piss off 98% of the list members, I > suppose a smiley won't save me? ;-) ) I might be an advocate of that if advocacy was needed, but oil seems to be cheaper here, anyway. It's probably only because we're cleverer and smarter than people in whatever country you're "America Bashing" from. :) I don't think you've hurt anyone's feelings. Actually I feel kind of complimented. :) I think our food is cheaper as well. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 14:08:07 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx ÝFluff¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > is that a net rank or AGA (American Go > Association rank)? either way not bad at all. I't was a net ranking. I've never played Go on an actual board, only on the net and before that on Imagination Network. I thought I remembered Fotland saying 2 or 3 dan, but you're right. Sorry about the confusion. It's interesting why I stopped playing. I was having a series of small heart attacks over about a 3 month period and I didn't realize it. But Go seemed to be one of the things that would bring them on. Every time I'd start to play it hurt. I wasn't able to finish most of the games I started during that period. My heart is fine now, after sugery a few years ago but I can't seem to enjoy playing Go anymore. I get extrememly nervous when I try to play and I can't focus on the game at all. I think I was conditioned against it. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 12:39:23 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: sgf file editor for 100lx ÝFluff¨ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > My heart is fine now, after sugery a few years ago but I can't seem > to enjoy playing Go anymore. I get extrememly nervous when I try to > play and I can't focus on the game at all. I think I was > conditioned against it. You mean your heart's not in it. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 16:36:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: New gadget MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Maybe it's this one: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0007/00072601sonyminidigicam.asp. It uses the half-size memory stick and the entire (prototype) camera is only 1 ounce with batteries. If it's now available, then it should create quite a stir. >From: Longden Loo Ýmailto:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM¨ >Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:14 AM > >>SONY >>announced a new digital still kamera >>on a memory stick for da memory stick slot. >> > >Are you talking about this? -> >http://www.dpreview.com/news/0101/01010502infostickbluetooth.asp > >This is bluetooth on a stick for wireless networking, but not a camera on a >stick (which would be one heck of a small camera). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 17:13:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barnaby Ng Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barnaby Ng Subject: Re: WTB: HP AC Adapter Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Radio Shack sells all kinds of AC adapters. I bought one that is universal (auto voltage sensing), high output (> 3A, 30watt) and comes with a bunch of plugs. It is expensive (CAD90) but other than the LX, I can use it on my digital camera, laptop ..... You get the idea. They have cheaper ones if you are using it on your LX only. Barnaby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard and Patti Smith" To: Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 01:28 Subject: WTB: HP AC Adapter > Hello all; > > My AC Adapter for the 200LX (HP F1011A) has given up the ghost. So, I > was wondering if anyone had a extra one that they'd be willing to sell > me (For less than the $40 that Thaddeus wants for it.)? Please reply off > list. > > Thanks. > > Regards, > Richard Smith > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:35:25 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff - Happy New Year Comments: To: Franklin Eekhout In-Reply-To: <03d401c07733$b183dba0$1401a8c0@srs.as> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Franklin, you know how in the beginning of each new year you still write the old year number? The Chinese calendar uses 12 animals to symbolize a cycle of 12 years. Among them are the dragon, pig, donkey, tiger, rabbit etc. Does this make better sense? It is actually funny... At 1/5/01 +0100, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris Randle" > > >I like the joke about the Chinese man who said, "I know it's > >the new year, but I keep writing dragon on my cheques." > >This one you'll have to explain... :-) > >br > >Franklin > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 10:32:48 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: 2GB microdrive Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <882569CB.0051580B.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Longden, At 1/5/01 -0800, you wrote: ><< > > So maybe a 2gb IBM Microdrive is in the works? Regardless of who makes > it, I > > hope they lower the power requirements too ... either that or add a > keyboard >and > > DOS to my camera . > >I heard some rumors - which I did not substantiate that IBM is >now testing a 2.5GB and a 5GB microdrive. > >> > >That's a lot of bytes to chew on. >Then I could use my 200LX to backup my desktop, or maybe run my Omnibook >800CT entirely off Win95b on the CF card (tho the >power-hogging-but-gorgeous TFT display is probably the main culprit). I got the 1GB to use as the drive in my PC110. When I purchased it, I needed some technical support and ended up being referred from the vendor to another vendor, and the techie over there told me he was using the 2.5 and 5GB drives "as we speak" on his desktop. >And as they greatly improved the power consumption going from the 340mb >model to the 1GB, perhaps they will continue that trend into the new ones >.... one can hope. He did not have numbers on that because these were still beta models. Probably still using the 340 power circuitry.. >This would be in line with the market demands as digicam user feedback often >seem to mention power consumption (ie battery life) as a primary concern. Yes. I keep supporting these demands, because the Palmtop users will benefit too! :) Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 19:06:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: TN3270 for WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >I haven66t yet been able to go accross the LAN. >doesn66t seem to accept bootp? Looks like someone forgot to start up Buddy's Smart Caps before typing = this message . Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 19:12:56 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ShakleeDad@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Elston Miller Subject: Unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_60.a6b1460.2787bd08_boundary" --part1_60.a6b1460.2787bd08_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please remove from name the list. I'm still with HP, but have gone on to the Jornada 680 and Jornada 430. By the way, there is a database available for the Jornada that's the closest thing to the 200LX that I have seen. It has most of the features of the LX database and then some. Elston Miller --part1_60.a6b1460.2787bd08_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please remove from name the list. I'm still with HP, but have gone on to the
Jornada 680 and Jornada 430. By the way, there is a database available for
the Jornada that's the closest thing to the 200LX that I have seen. It has
most of the features of the LX database and then some.

Elston Miller
--part1_60.a6b1460.2787bd08_boundary-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 01:56:00 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! Does anyone know of a DOS palmtop computer that has a greyscale VGA screen? = As some of you will remember, I'm using a HP200LX to receive weatherfax = images via shortwave radio. The software stores the incoming images in the = display memory as it is receiving, and then saves them to disk from there. = As the HP only has CGA, it is only able to receive the images in low = resolution. Another problem is that with a CGA screen, the maximum file size is 256186 = bytes, so some of the longer faxes are truncated. The most annoying is the = surface pressure analysis from Offenbach which is cut off just west of the = area I'm interested in. The only way around it is to be awake when it is = transmitted and manually start reception after about 1/3 of the fax has = come through. Someone suggested a Libretto, but that is way too upmarket for me, and the = power consumption would be too high. I want something that can be left on = receiving weatherfaxes 24 hours a day without making a dent in the ships = batteries. For those of you who are not long distance cruising yachtsmen, = think in terms of something you could leave switched on and connected to = the cigarette lighter socket in your car for two or three weeks and still = have enough juice left in the battery to start the car. This would be = possible with a HPLX. I doubt if it would be possible with a Libretto. The HP is almost there and if it was only able to receive the complete = images when they are longer than 250kb and store them in high resolution so = that the details are visible when I zoom, I'd be happy with it. As it is, = the zoom function only displays the coarse resolution bigger without = bringing out any more detail. I don't give a hoot what other capabilities the palmtop has, as I'll only = be using it for the weatherfaxes. It needs a readable VGA screen and room = to store the images (preferably CF). I hardly use the keyboard on the = weatherfax computer, so it doesn't matter much if it has a shitty keyboard. = I cannot, however, use a wince or EPOC computer running a DOS emulator, as = the weatherfax software needs full control of the processor to get the = timing right. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 18:10:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Cave Of Lascaux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nathalie - Thanks for the link to the Cave Of Lascaux. What a fabulous website. The homepage with the flashlight illumination= is unbelievably creative. Truly a great site to steer everyone to= who has been heard to mutter, "What's so great about the internet?" For those who may have missed it: http://www.culture.fr/culture/arcnat/lascaux/en Bob -- Bob Christopher, rbc@ezlink.com on 01/05/2001 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 01:39:57 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: PostLX and RoboLX Questions Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > At 1/4/01 -0800, Gary Jacek wrote: > >I'm just coming up to speed on the WWW/LX V3 suite and > >can't seem to find answers to the following: > > These are perfect questions to ask at support@dasoft.com! But I am glad you > asked publicly, because: > > (1) I can answer them :) > > (2) Other people may have the same questions and so now here are the answers. Excellent tutorial, Avi. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 01:40:10 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: memo question Comments: To: Oliver Chua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Steve, > > Awesome idea! Except for the extra funny looking characters at the end (I > think its from the page break or something), its exactly what I need. Do > you have any idea on how I can get rid of them? Also, I save the print > file always to the same directory called c:\mail. Do I always have to type When Memo prints to file it adds a high ascii character (00 or FF or ??) and some folks then open that file in an editor (memo even?) and delete that character or characters manually. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 01:40:24 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fluff HP Problems Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Distances in the United states are probably different than in other > > countries and distances in Texas are much greater yet. > > Barry, are you, therefore, an advocate of the "America is > bigger, so the oil should be cheaper" theory? It seems to me > that's like saying, "my stomach is bigger than yours, so my > food should be cheaper". Mind you, America seems to bear that > theory out too. (How to piss off 98% of the list members, I > suppose a smiley won't save me? ;-) ) A smiley might not save you but if you are slimmer, you might be faster! From a pudgy but fighting it, American! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:35:00 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: PostLX and RoboLX Questions Comments: To: Gary Jacek MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:22:42 +1300 (NZST) 1 day 18h01m54s ago ... On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:20:48 -0800, Gary Jacek wrote: > 3. Is there a killfile facility for Newsgroup articles? > For example, the word "Visor" in comp.sys.palmtops > postings generally indicates something I don't wish > to read. Gary, ROBONEWS/LX can "killfile" while online, using filters set up in ROBOT.CFG. For example to filter out articles with "visor" (case independent) in the Subject: line in your Ýpalmtops¨ newsgroup, when doing a download of full articles you need to add 6 lines: In the ÝPalmtops¨ section: FDFilters=3Dfpalm then Ýfpalm¨ SubjectFilter=3Dsfpalm Ýsfpalm¨ visor=3D- *=3D+ "fpalm" and "sfpalm" are just invented labels. You can have filters for header download as well (using HDFilters=3D...) and also a filter based on the From: - using FromFilter=3D.... Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:36:51 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? Comments: To: ohmorgan@iname.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Owen, I would recommend an OmniBook. Either the 300 or 425/430. B/W VGA screens and can run on CF cards in PCMCIA adapters. They do run on AA cells, but most people use the rechargeable batteries instead. They are a bit larger, though. Imagine a 200LX about the size of a sheet of paper and an inch or two thick when closed up. Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:49:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Cave Of Lascaux Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Christopher wrote: > Nathalie - Thanks for the link to the Cave Of Lascaux. Is that where you find those cavedwellers who don't believe that the 200lx is the greatest invention of the last millennium? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 03:19:25 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Subject: Verbatim Flash Cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello; Has anybody used Verbatim Flash Cards in the Hp 200lx? Are they compatible with our 200lx? Thanks; Inigo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 19:23:33 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: New gadget Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > << > SONY > announced a new digital still kamera > on a memory stick for da memory stick slot. > > Are you talking about this? -> > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0101/01010502infostickbluetooth.asp > > This is bluetooth on a stick for wireless > networking, but not a camera on a > stick (which would be one heck of a small > camera). > > Let me know if you have another link. Kant tell from the ad as I saw the ad in a newspaper (Bangkok Post) the past weekend. and the same reeson I have no link. They did not mention BLUESTICK. regards ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 19:25:30 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: New gadget Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reread this note for this reply. it wuz a KAMERA. > SONY > announced a new digital still kamera > on a memory stick for da memory stick slot. > > Are you talking about this? ->NO > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0101/01010502infostickbluetooth.asp > > This is bluetooth on a stick for wireless > networking, but not a camera on a > stick (which would be one heck of a small > camera). > > Let me know if you have another link. > > - Longden > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 19:33:45 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: New gadget Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Looks good but I don't think so. This one is dated 7/00 and the one I saw was 12/00 also it looked different. The one I saw actually goes into the memory stick slot. yor pal al..... --- "Striegel, Alan" wrote: > Maybe it's this one: > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0007/00072601sonyminidigicam.asp. > It uses the > half-size memory stick and the entire > (prototype) camera is only 1 ounce > with batteries. > > If it's now available, then it should create > quite a stir. > > >From: Longden Loo > Ýmailto:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM¨ > >Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:14 AM > > > >>SONY > >>announced a new digital still kamera > >>on a memory stick for da memory stick slot. > >> > > > >Are you talking about this? -> > >http://www.dpreview.com/news/0101/01010502infostickbluetooth.asp > > > >This is bluetooth on a stick for wireless > networking, but not a camera on a > >stick (which would be one heck of a small > camera). > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 23:27:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: New gadget Comments: To: hobchi@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hobchi wrote: > Reread this note for this reply. > it wuz a KAMERA. Anyone have a spell checker for the 200lx????? This guy desperately needs one........ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:36:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Jacek Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Jacek Organization: @Home Network Subject: Re: PostLX and RoboLX Questions Comments: To: Tony Hutchins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Tony! Now can anyone explain what the ÝMFILTER¨ section in POST.CFG does? Tony Hutchins wrote: > > Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:22:42 +1300 (NZST) > > 1 day 18h01m54s ago ... > On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 00:20:48 -0800, Gary Jacek wrote: > > > 3. Is there a killfile facility for Newsgroup articles? > > For example, the word "Visor" in comp.sys.palmtops > > postings generally indicates something I don't wish > > to read. > > Gary, ROBONEWS/LX can "killfile" while online, using filters set up in > ROBOT.CFG. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:40:44 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <60.a6b1460.2787bd08@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed May I suggest that we do not jump on anyone requesting removal in this fashion. Instead, let them keep getting the messages, until they look at the messages - each one of them and figure it out. I think it is much ore fun than bash someone, no? :=) At 1/5/01 -0500, you wrote: >Please remove from name the list. I'm still with HP, but have gone on to the >Jornada 680 and Jornada 430. By the way, there is a database available for >the Jornada that's the closest thing to the 200LX that I have seen. It has >most of the features of the LX database and then some. > >Elston Miller ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:45:03 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: PostLX and RoboLX Questions Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20010106013952.FEDG25609.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@compus erve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Fred, At 1/6/01 +0000, you wrote: >Excellent tutorial, Avi. Thanks... I learned from some of yours, HP Staber, Andreas, and others... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:48:39 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: New gadget Comments: To: KenLondon In-Reply-To: <3A569EA2.8F3955CA@beld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Ken, He needs a head adjustment. Two years ago he promised to use normal english, but his word is no good, just like his spelling. Waste. At 1/5/01 -0500, you wrote: >hobchi wrote: > > > Reread this note for this reply. > > it wuz a KAMERA. > >Anyone have a spell checker for the 200lx????? This guy desperately >needs one........ > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:36:59 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <000f01c0774c$c46ef600$9afc36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Barry, this is Avi :) >I've read over the years that emissions from CRT's might be damaging >to the eyes. I don't think that's related to eyestrain, though. Somewhere I read that if your eyes are more than 30cm (approx. 1 foot) from the CRT it will take about 200 years to cause any discernible damage. I don't much worry. The screens nowadays are large which puts most users far from the emissions. Add to that the reduction of emission designs... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:37:06 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: PostLX and RoboLX Questions Comments: To: Gary Jacek MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:21:26 +1300 (NZST) 44m44s ago ... On Fri, 5 Jan 2001 22:36:42 -0800, Gary Jacek wrote: > Thanks Tony! > > Now can anyone explain what the ÝMFILTER¨ section in POST.CFG does? Gary, ÝMFILTER¨ is a totally off-line filter that governs the default appearance of messages when you are reading them. Most of the lines just indicate which header lines should be displayed (can be over-riden by alt-H to toggle the appearance of *all* headers on and off). Actually I think you can have different message filters for different POST/LX boxes if you want. Yup, I just checked POSTHELP.I, and you can. Gary, look for MFILTER in POSTHELP.I - the descritpion there is really good! MFILTER can also affect how the message itself looks. I have >=3Dq ?>=3Dq ??>=3Dq which identifies lines I wish to be treated as quotes and pressing "Q" can toggle their display on and off. Date:=3D+ Subject:=3Dh Date & Subject are shown, the latter in bold. ***DO=3De If a line begins with ***DO then it and all following lines will be hidden. But I recommend POSTHELP.I for a complete explanation. Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 22:54:01 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: PostLX and RoboLX Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 6 Jan 2001 22:50:18 +1300 (NZST) 02h13m12s ago ... On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:37:06 +1300 (NZDT), Tony Hutchins wrote: > Date:=3D+ > Subject:=3Dh > > Date & Subject are shown, the latter in bold. The rest of my message didn't show when I read it: > ***DO=3De > > If a line begins with ***DO then it and all following lines will be > hidden. > > But I recommend POSTHELP.I for a complete explanation. > > Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 05:59:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX Comments: To: Evan Person MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Evan wrote: > When I had my eyes checked last I was told I have > retinal burn damage from staring at CRTs for so > many years. Not really serious though, but enough What is CRT an abbreviation of? Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 06:35:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX Comments: To: Lars Hedstroem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lars, "What is CRT an abbreviation of?" Cathode Ray Tube Thanks, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com mailto:Sales@Systems-Consulting.com Paul Anderson President Maximizing the results of Information Systems Certified Novell Salesperson Your ALPS Printer Supplies Source ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 20:42:00 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Fluff: Distances Ed Lomax writes: > hehe Yanks love talking big :) > > Texas ain't big - we have a farm in Western Australia that is bigger - > no joke! South Australia where I live is bigger too and has less > than 1.5 million people in it - and only one city. Once you leave the > cities here you pretty soon realise Australia is empty. > To summarise this discussion: A Texan(Barry), Australian(Ed) and an Israeli(avi) meet at a farmers convention. Barry says: "My farm is so big that I get into my car and drive for 2 hours until I get to my nearest neighbour" Ed: "So what. I get into my car and drive for two days until I get to my nearest neighbour". Avi: "We have a car like that on our kibbutz too!" David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 07:31:07 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > Hi Barry, this is Avi :) > > >I've read over the years that emissions from CRT's might be damaging > >to the eyes. I don't think that's related to eyestrain, though. > > Somewhere I read that if your eyes are more than 30cm (approx. 1 foot) from > the CRT it will take about 200 years to cause any discernible damage. I > don't much worry. The screens nowadays are large which puts most users far > from the emissions. Add to that the reduction of emission designs... I didn't start having problems with my eyes until about a year after I started doing a lot of work on Macintoshes, where I was staring at a mostly white screen all day long. My eyes really bothered me a lot, but the doctor said that although the damage was there it was relatively minor. Since then I try to use a laptop whenever I can, and try to use a background of mostly darker colors. I haven't had any significant problems since then. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 00:31:16 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: Fluff: Distances In-Reply-To: <200100052042.PNR00056@netmedia.net.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hehehe, I like it. As I have lived in the desert and now live in a city I have to say that wide open spaces are over-rated as places to live. But then my dream is to buy some of it again in a sort of halfway type area - where you can't see your neighbours but they are only a short walk away, and so is the local town. ed On 5 Jan 2001, at 20:42, David Becher wrote: > Ed Lomax writes: > > hehe Yanks love talking big :) > > > > Texas ain't big - we have a farm in Western Australia that is bigger > > - > > no joke! South Australia where I live is bigger too and has less > > than 1.5 million people in it - and only one city. Once you leave > > the cities here you pretty soon realise Australia is empty. > > > To summarise this discussion: > > A Texan(Barry), Australian(Ed) and an Israeli(avi) meet at a farmers > convention. Barry says: "My farm is so big that I get into my car and > drive for 2 hours until I get to my nearest neighbour" Ed: "So what. I > get into my car and drive for two days until I get to my nearest > neighbour". Avi: "We have a car like that on our kibbutz too!" > > > David Becher > > davidb@netmedia.net.il > davidb@cimatron.co.il > www.cimatron.co.il > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 11:07:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Somewhere I read that if your eyes are more than 30cm (approx. 1 foot) from > the CRT it will take about 200 years to cause any discernible damage. I > don't much worry. The screens nowadays are large which puts most users far > from the emissions. Add to that the reduction of emission designs... I wouldn't worry....the following is a list of things that aren't dangerous in some form or another: ÝIntentionally left blank¨ The bottom line is...everything is dangerous and we are all going to die someday. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 08:14:20 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Subject: PCMCIA DIsks and Processors are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition. (5) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available. They are in excellent Condition! One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Two (2) $55.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have (3) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Payment Terms: I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you can send payment to my address at: Scott Moore 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street Beaverton, Or 97006 Notes: I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let you know that your disks are on the way. I always send out disks and other products the very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday. I package all my disks and products in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery. All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to test a customer's new prototype product at work. If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you. If you want Insurance on your package it is .85 to 2.00. If you do not buy insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal errors. Orders outside the USA may be more. No Foreign Checks please! The response over the last few months has been just great! and the people I have worked with have been just Awesome! Thanks alot! Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 11:12:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX Comments: To: Lars Hedstroem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lars Hedstroem wrote: > What is CRT an abbreviation of? Cathode Ray Tube...it for those poor slobs who don't have a 200lx but have to look at a regular monitor. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 12:12:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Some people here have suggested the older omnibooks and they are a good choice. Another possible choice is the ibm pc110. It supports booting from and using only flash mem and is little bit higher end than the omnibook. It probably also consumes more power. See here: http://www.basterfield.com/pc110/pc110idx.htm The other possibility is to use a regular laptop but turn on all the power saving stuff as if it were running on batteries (which it is if running on the yacht batteries.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owen H. Morgan" To: Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 7:56 PM Subject: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? Howdy! Does anyone know of a DOS palmtop computer that has a greyscale VGA screen? As some of you will remember, I'm using a HP200LX to receive weatherfax images via shortwave radio. The software stores the incoming images in the display memory as it is receiving, and then saves them to disk from there. As the HP only has CGA, it is only able to receive the images in low resolution. Another problem is that with a CGA screen, the maximum file size is 256186 bytes, so some of the longer faxes are truncated. The most annoying is the surface pressure analysis from Offenbach which is cut off just west of the area I'm interested in. The only way around it is to be awake when it is transmitted and manually start reception after about 1/3 of the fax has come through. Someone suggested a Libretto, but that is way too upmarket for me, and the power consumption would be too high. I want something that can be left on receiving weatherfaxes 24 hours a day without making a dent in the ships batteries. For those of you who are not long distance cruising yachtsmen, think in terms of something you could leave switched on and connected to the cigarette lighter socket in your car for two or three weeks and still have enough juice left in the battery to start the car. This would be possible with a HPLX. I doubt if it would be possible with a Libretto. The HP is almost there and if it was only able to receive the complete images when they are longer than 250kb and store them in high resolution so that the details are visible when I zoom, I'd be happy with it. As it is, the zoom function only displays the coarse resolution bigger without bringing out any more detail. I don't give a hoot what other capabilities the palmtop has, as I'll only be using it for the weatherfaxes. It needs a readable VGA screen and room to store the images (preferably CF). I hardly use the keyboard on the weatherfax computer, so it doesn't matter much if it has a shitty keyboard. I cannot, however, use a wince or EPOC computer running a DOS emulator, as the weatherfax software needs full control of the processor to get the timing right. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vesterelen, Northern Norway 68039.14'N 15029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 13:03:09 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: New gadget A Meshar writes: > Ken, > > He needs a head adjustment. Two years ago he promised to use normal > english, but his word is no good, just like his spelling. Waste. > > At 1/5/01 -0500, you wrote: > >hobchi wrote: > > > > > Reread this note for this reply. > > > it wuz a KAMERA. > > > >Anyone have a spell checker for the 200lx????? This guy desperately > >needs one........ I have no comment regarding pal al's intentions, but the following procmail recipe sends his messages to the bit bucket. I never have to see his stuff unless someone quotes him. :0 *¬From: .*hobchi /dev/null Hope that helps. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 12:30:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: New gadget MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also have Al plonked. I just don't have the time to try to figure out his creative prose; to me it is as rude as if somone chose to wave their hands in front of your face while talking to you just because they "felt like it". If it were not intentional then I would excuse it, of course. I wish that people would stop quoting him. Bryan > I have no comment regarding pal al's intentions, but the following > procmail recipe sends his messages to the bit bucket. I never have > to see his stuff unless someone quotes him. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 13:38:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Malka Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Malka Subject: Re: WTB: HP AC Adapter Comments: To: Barnaby Ng MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also use an inexpensive one from RadioShack. It is AC Adapter CAT No 273-1667 3-12 volts (set at 12 volts), 800 mA and the plug tip is set once for all with the correct polarity. Works fine but it is much larger and heavier than the HP adapter. Jeff Malka Registered Linux user 183185 ----- Original Message ----- From: Barnaby Ng To: Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: Re: WTB: HP AC Adapter > Radio Shack sells all kinds of AC adapters. I bought one that is universal > (auto voltage sensing), high output (> 3A, 30watt) and comes with a bunch of > plugs. It is expensive (CAD90) but other than the LX, I can use it on my > digital camera, laptop ..... You get the idea. They have cheaper ones if you > are using it on your LX only. > > Barnaby > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard and Patti Smith" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 01:28 > Subject: WTB: HP AC Adapter > > > > Hello all; > > > > My AC Adapter for the 200LX (HP F1011A) has given up the ghost. So, I > > was wondering if anyone had a extra one that they'd be willing to sell > > me (For less than the $40 that Thaddeus wants for it.)? Please reply off > > list. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > Richard Smith > > > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 14:09:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Malka Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Malka Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talking about CRTs, why do we say we sit "in front" of a TV set, but we sit "behind" a computer screen? Jeff Malka Registered Linux user 183185 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken London To: Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX > Lars Hedstroem wrote: > > > What is CRT an abbreviation of? > > Cathode Ray Tube...it for those poor slobs who don't have a 200lx but > have to look at a regular monitor. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 14:07:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Malka Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Malka Subject: Re: PCMCIA DIsks and Processors are Available. Comments: To: Scott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any PC modems for the LX200? Jeff Malka Registered Linux user 183185 ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott To: Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 11:14 AM Subject: PCMCIA DIsks and Processors are Available. > I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition. > > > (5) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available. > > They are in excellent Condition! > One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. > Two (2) $55.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. > > > I also have (3) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for > shipping and packaging. > > Payment Terms: I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you > > can send payment to my address at: > > > Scott Moore > 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street > Beaverton, Or 97006 > > Notes: > > I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let > you know that your disks are on the way. > > I always send out disks and other products the very next day unless I > receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday. > > I package all my disks and products in bubble wrap and place them in a > thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery. > > All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to > test a customer's new prototype product at work. > > If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know > and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you. > > If you want Insurance on your package it is .85 to 2.00. If you do not > buy > insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal > errors. Orders outside the USA may be more. No Foreign Checks please! > > The response over the last few months has been just great! and the > people I have worked with have been just Awesome! Thanks alot! > > Scott > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 08:56:20 -0800 Reply-To: francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Sony Memory Stick PCMCIA Card Adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, I was wandering around on ebay and found a pcmcia adapter for the new sony memory stick. Anyway to figure out if this would work with our beloved 200lx? On ebay at __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 13:45:38 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Sony Memory Stick PCMCIA Card Adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To elaborate on what I mailed you, I have one. It is the Sony MSAC-PC2. I have one 8MB "stick" and it seems to work fine in the HP200LX. I can get a directory, and copy files from and to it. I have to used it extensively, but it seems to work. Bryan Patrick West wrote: > > Folks, > I was wandering around on ebay and found a pcmcia adapter for the new > sony memory stick. > Anyway to figure out if this would work with our beloved 200lx? > > On ebay at > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:19:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Hocking Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Hocking Subject: Let them read the footer, was Unsubscribe I second the motion Avi made. If people would read more, rather than wanting someone else to do something for them, the technical support departments of all the companies worldwide, would be able to focus more on product development, rather than having to answer the same questions, over and over again. I agree with Avi, that rather than bash, or letting the unsubscribe requests get under our skin, let them continue to receive the 50 + messages a day, until they finally decide read the footer, and then to poke on it, and discover how to unsubscribe to the list. It really is not such a hard thing to do. Best Regards, Robert Hocking ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:30:30 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have one of the PC110s. It is definitely small. Nearly as small as my LX, but it does use more power than my OB425 (not formally tested, a subjective observation). The PC110 is definitely going to cost more. Both are good machines. Dennis > Another possible choice is the ibm pc110. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:48:54 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: Fluff HP Problems Comments: To: neil@skipper.org.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Saturday, 30.12.2000 at 23:13 GMT, Neil Tungate wrote: > On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 16:18:37 -0600, Evan Person wrote: > > >Mack has a Prius??? Cool! How are they different > >from the Honda version, Insight I think it's called? > >I was going to go look at one last summer when > >the gas prices went over $2.00 a gallon in Chicago, > >but a friend said the dealers were sold out and didn't > >even have any on display. Then I never followed up > >on it. I've seen a few on the road (the Honda, not the > >Toyota). How are they on heat in the winter? > > I have to put in a word about petrol prices here. How you guys in the US > can complain about $2 a gallon is beyond me. Most of Europe is paying > around $8 a gallon - now *that* is outrageous! > I agree with you that the gas (or petrol) prices in Europe are outrageous compared to those in the US, but it's not as bad as you stated. In many European countries the gas price for Euro Super (95 ROZ) is somewhere between EUR 1,00 and EUR 1,20 per liter. This amounts to USD 3.60 to 4.30 per US gallon (currency rate as of Jan 4th). Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:53:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Pal Al (was Re: New gadget) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Theodore Heise wrote re "pal al": > I have no comment regarding pal al's intentions, but the following > procmail recipe sends his messages to the bit bucket. I never have > to see his stuff unless someone quotes him. I use the Post/LX from D&A Software (my name is in the shingle). We can filter messages in that product and route them to specific folders. I have a special folder called "junk" (it used to be called worse than "crap" :) but I needed to make a screenshot of the program for some marketing thingie, and the name changed for obvious reasons :-> ...) My filter picks up "pal al"'s messages and shuttles them directly to that folder. A pre-run short batch file deletes the folder and its content. I do it before the Post/LX run, incase there are some messages there that I want to save. So far, never needed to safe anything, it was all hmmm... eh... deleteable. Thanks for the help, and mostly the affinity of sentiment... Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:26:14 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: 100LX to Palm OS conversion Comments: To: "Douglas Tucker, M.D." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sunday, 31.12.2000 at 16:51 GMT, Douglas Tucker, M.D. wrote: > After a decade with my 100LX, I finally caved in this year and bought a > Palm Vx (not getting rid of the 100LX yet though). I'd much rather convert > my calendar and phonebook files to the Palm OS than hand enter everything, > but I'm not sure how to do it. People tell me it's not a problem importing > those files if I can convert my 100LX files to comma-delimited or > tab-delimited value files. Does anyone know how to do this? > I did the same thing last October; I got an IBM WorkPad c3 (aka. Palm Pilot Vx). Some of the applications I moved to the Palm are: Appointment Book. I need to maintain my calender on Lotus Notes. Synchronizing with the Palm is a snap with EasySync; synchronizing with the 200LX went quite well with a LotusScript program I'd written. However, my program did a one-way synch while EasySync does a full two-way synchronization. The conversion was basically no work at all because of the already populated calendar on Lotus Notes. To-do List. I didn't find a good conversion tool and my to-do list is not that big, so I simply retyped all entries in the Palm Desktop program. Phone Book. I used the HP Connectivity Pack to convert the phone book to a comma-delimited file (CSV). The Palm Desktop program is able to import a CSV file but the sequence of fields is different. I wrote a REXX program that converts the CSV file to the right format. I can send the program to anyone who wants it but you need IBM's Object REXX or some other suitable package on Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000 to run the program. It should run on OS/2 or IBM PC DOS 6.3 and up without problem and without requiring any additional software. Databases. I was an avid user of the HP 200 LX database engine. For the Palm, I bought HandBase. Again, I converted my databases to CSV (again with the Connectivity Pack) and imported them into the HandBase Desktop program. This is very easy and HandBase is a very fast and powerful database engine. Spreadsheets. I bought QuickSheet and converted one of my Lotus 123 spreadsheets. It works quite well but the recalculation speed is awful. Therefore, I'm keeping the other ones on the 200LX. Notebook. My attempts at converting the 200LX Notebook to the Palm Notebook were not very successful, I couldn't convince the program to do it they way I wanted. Most of my notebook is still on the 200LX. A few remarks: the form factor of the Palm Pilot is its biggest argument, it really fits into a shirt pocket. I'm using the Palm Pilot as a PC companion, not a stand-alone unit (although I bought the foldable keyboard so I can do bigger typing jobs if required). To have the applications I need on the Palm, I spent almost USD 200 in commercial and shareware programs. Nevertheless, I'm keeping my HP 200 LX and I don't think I will get rid of it any time soon. Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:54:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Let them read the footer, was Unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert Hocking wrote: > let them continue to receive the 50 > + messages a day, until they finally decide read the footer, and then to > poke on it, and discover how to unsubscribe to the list. It really is not > such a hard thing to do. I think that when one of these appears, we all should strive to INCREASE the message volume, and raise it to say 200 messages per day for the duration. The reason is to give the chaps more of a chance to see the bottom line, so to speak... :-> ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 16:06:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Let them read the footer, was Unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Al Kind: I was thinking... > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Maybe this should be changed to: HPLX-L Subscribe/Unsubscribe/Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Might give the folks who want to get outa better clue? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 15:31:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Hocking Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Hocking Subject: Fluff: Humor, was Eyesight and 200LX Talking about CRTs, why do we say we sit "in front" of a TV set, but we sit "behind" a computer screen? Have you been watching/listening to Galligher (spelling) again? If not you should rent one of his tapes. I remember a whole list of things he talks about that are crazy with the English language. Best Regards, Robert Hocking ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 16:51:36 -0600 Reply-To: rsoltes@airmail.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard Soltes Subject: Re: RE OL2LX NEED HELP! Comments: To: JonEarye MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did any one get you help here? I am in the same situation I need to go thru OL to get it into Palm JonEarye wrote: > Please could someone give me "basic" step by step setup for the above > program with either versions of outlook (which ever one is easier to > set up), i am a new lx200 and would be grateful very grateful for some > help. Thankyou Jon -- Richard Soltes rsoltes@airmail.net The author of the soon to be best selling "CHICKEN SOUP FOR THE CHICKEN" There are two rules in life 1) Never tell everything you know ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 19:19:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: WTB: HP AC Adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barnaby, I have been looking for such an adapter for a long time. I usually travel with the HP200LX, a mobile phone, a Laptop and a Digital Camera ... all requiring different power adapter. The Laptop uses about 2 Amps. What is the form factor and weight of this Radio Shack adapter and does = it work on 110V/220V (or is it what you meant by universal ?). Also do you = have the exact RS reference of this adapter. Regards, \/ /ves Barnaby Ng wrote: > Radio Shack sells all kinds of AC adapters. I bought one that is = universal > (auto voltage sensing), high output (> 3A, 30watt) and comes with a = bunch of > plugs. It is expensive (CAD90) but other than the LX, I can use it on = my > digital camera, laptop ..... You get the idea. They have cheaper ones = if you > are using it on your LX only. > > Barnaby > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:45:34 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: memo question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ted, Just tried setting the page length to 0. It didn't work. >I agree. I use PNR with Memo for my e-mail, and this is the best tip I've >had in a while. I too would like to know about avoiding/preventing the >grunge at the bottom. Perhaps the page length setting is a possibility. >(some programs will do no page breaks if you set to page length to 0). Looks like I'll be looking for my manuals. Never made a system macro before. I also like Steve Carder's suggestion. I may just decide to be a copy cat. >As far as typing the name and path, I'm planning on making a simple HP >System Macro to handle that part of it. Thanks, Oli ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 18:54:04 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: memo question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oliver Chua wrote: > Looks like I'll be looking for my manuals. Never made a system macro > before. I also like Steve Carder's suggestion. I may just decide to be a > copy cat. Speaking of manuals, didn't someone scan in the 200LX manual? Whatever happened to it? I seldom need to refer to the manual, but when I do I can never seem to find it. It would be really nice to have an online manual. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:33:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff - Happy New Year MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>>>>> To Avi Meshar, Ed Lomax, Owen Morgaan, Barry and others interested in the subject: on issues surrounding Jesus' birth and life you have it all wrong! I must admit a fair bit of interest in the subject, but I won't bother this list with more religious stuff. If you are interested in a different set of facts i can send them to you in an e-mail. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< No thanks. I have no faith in facts. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:41:49 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: News/LX News Server Question and Fluff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > So if you want to make a derogatory > comment about Americans, do it. We > are bigger than even Texas is! :) Well, yeah. If the rest of the states get together you're bigger than us. But I don't think any 5 continental states are as big as us. Alaska is, of course, if you count the ice. But I don't think they'd be bigger than us at the same temperature. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 22:04:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barnaby Ng Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barnaby Ng Subject: Re: WTB: HP AC Adapter Comments: To: Yves Leurquin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The model number is 273-1685, 35W switching mode universal AC/DC adapter. Input: AC 90-240V, 50/60Hz Output: DC 6-24V, max 3A/35W ITE power supply, class2 power unit. It is almost the same size as the LX, just a bit smaller. Weight, I'm not sure, but feels lighter than the LX. It is not cheap, but I seldom come across any AC adapter capable of > 2A output. Hope this helps. Barnaby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yves Leurquin" To: Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 19:19 Subject: Re: WTB: HP AC Adapter Barnaby, I have been looking for such an adapter for a long time. I usually travel with the HP200LX, a mobile phone, a Laptop and a Digital Camera ... all requiring different power adapter. The Laptop uses about 2 Amps. What is the form factor and weight of this Radio Shack adapter and does it work on 110V/220V (or is it what you meant by universal ?). Also do you have the exact RS reference of this adapter. Regards, \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:27:21 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>Does anyone know of a DOS palmtop computer that has a greyscale VGA screen? As some of you will remember, I'm using a HP200LX to receive weatherfax images via shortwave radio. The software stores the incoming images in the display memory as it is receiving, and then saves them to disk from there. As the HP only has CGA, it is only able to receive the images in low resolution. <<<<<< You might want to look into the old Compaq Contura Aero. That's their old small laptop, not the new PDA of the same name. I have 2 of them, one color and one mono. They weigh slightly less than 3 pounds. With the enhanced battery (about $85) they run about 8 hours on a charge. Or you can run them on AC just fine. They're larger than a palmtop but as small as the small subnotebooks Sony makes. They're VGA. They have 1 PCMCIA slot. Most come with 4 or 8 meg. I think the maximum is 12 or 16 meg. Most come with Win 3.1 or Win95 but I use Dos with mine with no problems. It is designed to work with Dos. Even the power management works fine with Dos. So does the PCMCIA. They're fairly popular with linux enthusiasts, too. It also has a parallel and a serial port. No built in floppy. That plugs into the PCMCIA. My mono one has an 85 meg drive and a 486/25. The color one has a 180 meg drive and a 486/33. A lot of people put larger drives in them. I think 1 gig is the largest without making any modifications. Or maybe it was 2.1. That does require the latest flash rom upgrade, available on Compaq's site. A lot of people use drives up to 5 gig with some patches of some kind. I think I paid $200 for the mono one, some years ago. I bought the color one last year from Ebay for $40, if I remember right. It might have been $50. That included the docking station/external charger. These are good sturdy solid systems. They have problems with the screen when the cable works loose. Most of them have this problem. It's not too difficult to take them apart and plug the cable back in. I have to do that about once a year. Other than that they've been troublefree. They're not hard to find on auction sites. They made a lot of them. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 22:47:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eric Greenspoon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Greenspoon Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? In-Reply-To: <001101c07859$bf8ec080$0efd36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Barry does the Compaq Aero have instant on/off like the LX/Omnis? Or failing that resume with a short wait-period? >You might want to look into the old Compaq Contura Aero. That's >their old small laptop, not the new PDA of the same name. > - Eric ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 23:00:22 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: WTB: HP AC Adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was just looking at the AC adapter for my old Nokia 2160 cellphone. It says 12V@1A on it. Hmmm. Gotta run to Radio Shack to get a new plug to solder on so I can try it on myt LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 19:28:03 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: memo question Theodore Heise writes: > I agree. I use PNR with Memo for my e-mail, and this is the best tip I've > had in a while. I too would like to know about avoiding/preventing the > grunge at the bottom. Perhaps the page length setting is a possibility. > (some programs will do no page breaks if you set to page length to 0). > > As far as typing the name and path, I'm planning on making a simple HP > System Macro to handle that part of it. How about looking to see if PNR could automatically add hard CR-LFs at a given line position. Say at column 80 autmatically adding word wrap. By the way I do it manually. In memo I have my right margin to position 150 so when typing email I can easily see when I have to hit the ENTER button to break up a line as the whole screen starts moving. After a while I got used to typing like this... David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:52:47 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Douglas Tucker, M.D." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Douglas Tucker, M.D." Subject: Re: 100LX to Palm OS conversion Comments: To: BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all for your help. Using the HP Connectivity Pack to convert the phone book to a comma-delimited file (CSV) worked like a charm. Now that I've done it, though, I'm realizing that I still prefer the HPLX screen and functions. Oh well. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 00:58:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dennis Bell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Bell Subject: LX to internet by wireless... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am interested to hear of US users of th LX who have had success connecting to the internet with a wireless phone. I have read European experience, which depends on GSM phones but, alas, in the US that is limited (currently). I have followed the several threads regarding the Motorola Startac with great interest. How many of this LX group are connecting by wireless? What are the specifics of that connection? What phone are you using? What features should one look for? IR or Cable? What speed is possible? Are there interference issues? WWW/LX, Nettamer, Lynx, or other? ISP? Just email, www, newsgroups, other? Dennis Bell Seattle ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:41:50 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Fluff Democracy in America, was Re: News/LX News Server Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...this >So if you want to make a derogatory comment about Americans, do it. We are >bigger than even Texas is! :) ... We'll just shove the low fuel prices back >up your nose - to piss you off... :) --- see? Things balance out. ... and >It's probably only because we're cleverer and smarter than people in >whatever country you're "America Bashing" from. :) ... prompted Nathalie to shout from the Statue of Liberty warehouse: The criteria used by Americans to pick their government leaders are not constitutional arguments, not political philosophies, not morality, but pretty faces and social muscles. Women were drawn to the face, the carefully crafted image, the physically superficial, the obviously phony, the sentimental, the celebrated - men to the superficially macho, the flaccidly rational, the greedily successful, the amiable friend, the demanding boss. America's weakness is that half the voters are below average in intelligence, yet have the same vote as the highly intelligent. The ignorant, the gullible, the confused all have the same ballot power as those who actually develop a political philosophy. It is no wonder that American candidates now have monosyllabic, four-letter names so as not to overload the voters' minds as well as campaigns aimed at the lowest denominator. When adult people, as we have seen recently, can become partisan and excited over Gush or Bore, one sees the basic inanity of America's electoral system. Though the media, politicians and pedagogues continue to praise the electoral system as a beacon of civilization and standard for other nations - the reality is that corrupt emotional demagogues sway low-IQ, ignorant, lethargic and biased American voters. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:04:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America, was Re: News/LX News Server Question In-Reply-To: <016501c07877$6062c160$af85fcc1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > The criteria used by Americans to pick their government leaders are not > constitutional arguments, not political philosophies, not morality, but > pretty faces and social muscles. Women were drawn to the face, the carefully > crafted image, the physically superficial, the obviously phony, the > sentimental, the celebrated - men to the superficially macho, the flaccidly > rational, the greedily successful, the amiable friend, the demanding boss. Is it just me or does anyone else wish that Nathalie would just shut-up and quit trashing we Americans that subscribe to this list? The good Lord know that I am one of the most vocal people about political matters and he also knows that I would gladly give my life to defend the U S of A and to defend the rights and liberties that we Americans hold dear, but I have resisted my urge to say anything about anyone elses' country out of respect. Nathalie, please just shut-up. It's bad enough that we have apethic voters here in the States that whine about things but never actually take part in the election process, they have no right to complain and since you are *not* an American you have NO right to worry about our election process..... well maybe you do since America is the defender of the free world, but since we will continue to defend and support your country, regardless of who holds the Executive office, so don't worry about us, we'll take care of ourselves. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:07:19 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America, was Re: News/LX News Server Question Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:59:12 +1300 (NZST) 01h17m22s ago ... On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:41:50 +0100, Nathalie Bugeaud was ... prompted to shout from the Statue of Liberty warehouse: > America's weakness is that half the voters are below average in > intelligence, It's the same here in New Zealand too Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 03:54:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX Comments: To: Jeff Malka MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Malka" To: Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX > Talking about CRTs, why do we say we sit "in front" of a TV set, but we sit > "behind" a computer screen? Try standing between the person and the CRT. You'll find the difference real quick. :-) Another difference is the position the person is sitting in either case. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:04:11 +0000 Reply-To: neil@skipper.org.uk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Tungate Organization: Home for Geriatric Collies Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX In-Reply-To: <009c01c07814$5fda8790$3d0a37ce@jsm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 14:09:03 -0500, Jeff Malka wrote: >Talking about CRTs, why do we say we sit "in front" of a TV set, but we = sit >"behind" a computer screen? I think you'll find it's an Americanism - we don't say it here in the UK = :) --=20 Neil Tungate Team 200LX UK ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:49:39 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX Comments: To: neil@skipper.org.uk In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I live in the US and never heard people say they sit behind a computer screen. At 1/7/01 +0000, you wrote: >On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 14:09:03 -0500, Jeff Malka wrote: > > >Talking about CRTs, why do we say we sit "in front" of a TV set, but we sit > >"behind" a computer screen? > >I think you'll find it's an Americanism - we don't say it here in the UK :) > >-- >Neil Tungate >Team 200LX UK > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:17:58 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found a promising project management program from Parcell Softarwe, Geneva IL, USA. After installing on the LX I was not able to get it running. The system shows " not enough memory " The doc file says as requirements : 512k, hard disc and DOS 3.3 What am I doing wrong ? Does anyone from the list have any experience with the software easy project 4.0 itself ? or is it basic problem with the LX I'm faced with. Any help is appreciated , I will report to the list about my experiences with ep 4.0 The result under DOS (notebook) are very promising. thanks in advance, Michael from Schwabach ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:24:22 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Fwd: C-Netz ist aus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, this is especially for the German list members - and I have to admit that it is not directly on topic here. But for those who used analog mobile phones with their LXs it IS on topic! ;-) --- begin of forwarded message --- > Makabere Silvesterfeier: C-Netz ist aus > > Nicht B> vller, sondern Basisstationen wurden bei einer ungewvhnlichen Silvesterfeier in Kvln "abgeschossen": T-Mobil zelebrierte f|r geladene Gdste die Abschaltung des Mobilfunknetzes C-Tel. Mit dabei der ehemalige T-Mobil-Chef Norbert Hunsel, der die Preise f|r C-Tel auf damals sensationelle Werte gesenkt hatte. > In der Silvesternacht konnten die Partygdste auf gro_en Monitoren verfolgen, wie Sendersteuerung f|r Sendersteuerung abgeschaltet wurde, um 00:44 Uhr waren alle Sender offline. Nun ist Deutschland um einige Funklvcher reicher, denn C-Tel versorgte auch Regionen, die wohl niemals vom D- oder gar E-Netz versorgt werden d|rften, weil es sich nicht lohnt oder den Netzbetreibern zu aufwendig erscheint. Weitere Hintergrund-Informationen zum ehemaligen C-Netz finden Sie auch auf unserer News-Seite . > > --- end of forwarded message --- GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:29:24 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases in USA. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, I just saw in the news that the same group of attorneys at law, who managed to get all those billions from tobacco industrie in lung cancer charges now want to try the mobile phone manufacturers on brain tumor allegations and want 2bio$ inc. 400mio for themselves. This is great news for Europe and Japan! USA is already way behind in wireless digital voice and data and these legal complications will no doubt further slow down the modernization of US mobil phone habits and infrastructure. I guess both EU and Japan will welcome the app. 50+bio USD not invested there. Poor USA HPLX users will of course suffer from this, so maybe you over there should finally act and fight against the mindless rule of attorneys in USA, which embarrasses people and Co.'s elsewhere Whether GSM provokes formation of brain tumor or not should not be an issue in USA. I mean even if this effect is actually harmful, gun violence remains a hundred-fold more serious problem. Also, allegedly electricity related cancer cases are more frequent in the USA because there are 110Volts in the wall, compared to 230V in Europe. This means double current for the USA, which means stronger magnetic field. However even this direct coupling between 110V and brain tumor could not or was not intended to be proven. (BTW, there is another aspect to this debate. In Europe lots of people die due to shock from 230V electricity, which is small problem in USA as accidents from 110V cannot kill an adult. I would be interested in some data on actually how many people in Europe died annually due to home electric accident. I wonder if based on a comparision and some further research into tumor dangers of 110V EMI, a decision on converting Europe back to 110V would make sense. Actually there could be an agreement between USA and EU, that while EU goes to 110 Volts, USA goes forcedly metric. Strange idea, but I guess it makes sense. Great economic benefits could be unleashed, eg. renowned US electric companies like Hoover, etc. could penetrate the EU market, and European companies could cheaply manufacture same products for both local and overseas market. I do not mean changing the 50/60Hz AC at either side that's unimportant for most electric euipment. How do you like it? Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:29:26 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Fluff: Re: IBM 2,5/5GB Microdrive and new money MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, I have a strange idea. As you heard the IBM Microdrive will soon be 2,5/5GB and it has a disk platter the size of a coin. Well, for many centuries coins had their value, because of the gold/silver/copper content. Later paper money was introduced, where the state undertook mandatory change into gold if the bill was presented. In the communism, the ideologists tried to swap the value base of their currencies from gold to work, e.g. the industrial/agriculture etc. production of the working classes of the red countries. Of course it failed. Now the information age, base of value of money should be information, rather than gold. The coin-sized microdrive should be ideal for "money". The 1GB would be the unit micro, the 5GB the nickel-micro, etc. Inflation would be defined as erasure of a certain percent of the info from the micro. Useless gold, cheap like iron could all go into electronics manufacture, instead of Fort Knox, thus further boosting information society. World Bank would be dissolved and replaced by IBM of Armonk, NY. How do you like the idea? Sincerely: Tamas Feher ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:06:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX Comments: To: Evan Person MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Evan wrote: > I didn't start having problems with my eyes until about a year > after I started doing a lot of work on Macintoshes, where I was > staring at a mostly white screen all day long. My eyes really > bothered me a lot, but the doctor said that although the damage > was there it was relatively minor. Did the doctor claim that the damage was CRT related? Since then I try to use a laptop > whenever I can, and try to use a background of mostly darker > colors. I haven't had any significant problems since then. > I have friends who also get problems with their eyes when they have been seated a long time in front of their computerscreen. They don't get that in front of the tevescreen. Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:01:32 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases in USA. Comments: To: etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU In-Reply-To: <3A586124.23286.7D57B6@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >(BTW, there is another aspect to this debate. In Europe lots of >people die due to shock from 230V electricity, which is small >problem in USA as accidents from 110V cannot kill an adult. Tamas I believe as little as 30 Volts can kill an adult with sufficient amperage. I for one respect electricity immensely. 110 Volts is more than enough to kill. Russell PS Perhaps our wonderful female doctor could give the facts here? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:39:09 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Pal Al (was Re: New gadget) A Meshar writes: > Thanks for the help, and mostly the affinity of sentiment... PNR has a kill function, but I prefer the procmail approach as that way I don't even have to download the junk. :) Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:42:43 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: memo question Oliver Chua writes: > Just tried setting the page length to 0. It didn't work. Yeah, I found that too. The suggestion to include deletion of the extra characters in a System Macro is good, but I'm not sure yet the pattern is consistent. The couple of times I tried this approach they looked like different length, but I wasn't looking closely. At any rate, if I find a workable solution I'll post it. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:51:13 +0900 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Kawaratani Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Kawaratani Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases in USA. In-Reply-To: <3A586124.23286.7D57B6@localhost> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > Hello all, > > I just saw in the news that the same group of attorneys at law, who > managed to get all those billions from tobacco industrie in lung > cancer charges now want to try the mobile phone manufacturers on > brain tumor allegations and want 2bio$ inc. 400mio for themselves. > Unlike tobacco, there is no huge mountain of studies showing that cell phones cause cancer. There are some studies which show some effects but no reputable studies have yet to provide evidence that use of cell phones cause cancer. However, there's no doubt that using cell phones while driving is a cause of accidents (speaking as one who has been nearly hit several times while riding my bicycle but errant drivers talking on their cell phones) and probably kills people that way. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 06:13:32 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , revwkschultz@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: William Schultz Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > America's weakness is that half the voters are below average in > > intelligence, Ah, not that I consider myself to be above average in intelligence, but...in every country of the world, half of the people would have to be below average. This is a redundant statement. I think Nathalie made a funny. |¬¬¬¬¬| Colossians 3:23 (@ @) Rev William K Schultz | /\ | Resurrection Lutheran Church, LCMS |_ --_| 2495 Cabrillo Ave, Santa Clara Ca 95051 | | (408) 241-2728 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:06:27 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX A Meshar writes: > I live in the US and never heard people say they sit behind a computer screen. I gave this some thought and concluded "sit behind a computer screen" isn't something I hear often, and the only situation in which it seems likely is with a person in an office (or cubicle :) with the computer between them and the door. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:13:59 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America, Jeff writes: > > Is it just me or does anyone else wish that Nathalie would just shut-up > and quit trashing we Americans that subscribe to this list? Golly Jeff, your reaction suggests you feel threatened by her comments. Why is that? If she's right, we can learn from it. If not, who cares? It's not that big a deal. If she bothers you that much, don't read her posts. As it happens, I think she makes some good points. A bit stridently perhaps, but good points nonetheless. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:59:10 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? Comments: To: Eric Greenspoon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric Greenspoon wrote: > Barry does the Compaq Aero have instant on/off like the LX/Omnis? > Or failing that resume with a short wait-period? > > >You might want to look into the old Compaq Contura Aero. That's > >their old small laptop, not the new PDA of the same name. > > I have a Compaq Aero 4/25 mono 640X480 VGA screen with 84MB hard drive and upgraded to 12MB of memory that I bought new from CompUSA many years ago. When it was new it did have instant on/off like the LX/Omnibooks (implemented via a "hibernate" state) that saves memory to disk when you power it off and restores the saved disk memory to RAM when you power it back on. However, I don't use my Aero much anymore because I have had the following problems with it. 1. I originally had two batteries with my Aero, the original one and a second one I purchased. They both didn't last very long before they didn't hold a charge any longer and are quite expensive (I paid around $125 for the second battery - I don't know what they sell for now). Since then I only use the Aero on AC. Without a working battery the Aero doesn't have the "instant on" feature, so I lost that at this time. 2. Several years ago it developed the dreaded "broken right screen hinge" problem, fairly common with Aeros from what I've heard. There is something Compaq sells called an "upgraded clutch kit" which is a stronger right hinge piece that has so far fixed that problem. I took the Aero apart and managed to fix it myself. There are instructions with pictures somewhere on the web. 3. About 3 weeks ago the 84MB hard drive died. I found a used 250MB hard drive that works, which I am using now. I had to take the Aero apart again, including removing the keyboard, to replace the hard drive. Not a trivial job. Took me about 3 hours to do this. I had to download a SoftPaq from Compaq's website to set up the hard drive. There is a special 4MB partition at the beginning of the hard drive (the SoftPaq says 2MB but that wasn't big enough) you have to set up. I had to do this with a Linux boot disk using Linux fdisk (DOS fdisk wouldn't do it correctly). 4. Shortly after I replaced the hard drive the CMOS battery died. I think it's a CR2016 or CR2032. I saw it on the motherboard when I replaced the hard drive but I didn't pay much attention to it. Now it won't boot from the hard drive at all but will boot from the PCMCIA floppy. So now I have to take the Aero all apart again to replace the CMOS battery. So my experience with my Aero has been, in summary, 1. Expensive batteries that have to be replaced fairly frequently. 2. Rather difficult, but possible to repair yourself. 3. Rather difficult to replace a hard drive because of having to set up that special 4MB partition at the beginning of the hard drive.. 4. Can't read screen without backlight turned on (power hog). In spite of these problems, my Aero did serve me well for many years. I mainly used it with a DOS software package called LSS to program Omron PLCs in a factory environment. It was lightweight and usually had adequate battery life (until the batteries died) to do what I needed to do without having to drag a long dropcord across the factory floor (there was power available to the equipment I was working on but it was all 3-phase 440). I also used it for years to back up my 200LX using the HP Connectivity Pack. IMHO the HP Omnibooks (300,425,430,530) are a better bet if you can live with their limitations. Sorry for the long post. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:55:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Neill Currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neill Currie Subject: Which site is the reference to?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I was searching deja.com and came upon this (partial) quote, by William E. Blankenship. Anyone know the actual site referred to? <<>> Thanks Neill Currie 13 Bancroft St Portland Me 04102, USA Tel: 207-842-5901 (East Coast Timezone) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:38:08 -0500 Reply-To: scotts@tovax.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Schindler Subject: Re: MS project on the 200lx -- Solved InfoSelect Prob In-Reply-To: <200101051012.f05ACWO24516@pop-d.netway.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Probably you will also need to hit Fn-Zoom to get to the right Zoom level for the display. HP Staber/Salzburg <<< It's the little things... Original Problem: >>When I invoke IS with alt-j the screen goes into 40 column mode and the alt-j out corrupts the screen << All these years and it never occurred to me to hit Fn-Zoom. The screen corruption still happens but a simple press of the blue more key (sometimes ESC, then more) and the screen returns to normal after exiting the TSR with alt-j. Now we are getting somewhere. BTW- Someone mentioned (either in a private note or list, I don't remember) that they did not think that you could run IS from System Manager. Use c:\is\is.exe n|128 in System Manager and adjust the memory to taste; it works fine. Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 19:00:31 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I found a promising project management program from Parcell Softarwe, = Geneva > IL, USA. After installing on the LX I was not able to get it running. = The > system shows " not enough memory " > > The doc file says as requirements : 512k, hard disc and DOS 3.3 Try to run it from a plain DOS screen after terminating all Applications : Menu/More/Application/TerminateAll. If that works you might try to run it with MAXDOS, availlable from SUPER. If that does not work you will have to try to eliminate as much TSR's as possible from your config.sys and autoexec.bat and then do the above once more. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 10:46:33 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: LX to internet by wireless... Dennis Bell writes: > How many of this LX group are connecting by wireless? I've seen several posts describing success with the the StarTAC ST7868W. The connection is generally made with the HP connectivity cable to the LX serial port, a gender cganger, and the Motorola data cable from there to the phone. The software that comes with the Motorola cable isn't necessary, but it is handy for entering phone numbers into the memory of the phone. Speeds are generally in the 9600 - 14.4k range. I've had a couple instances of dropped data calls from basements (i.e., poor signal conditions. You do need a digital signal, I believe--it doesn't work with analog. I use LXTCP/PNR, LXFTP, and LXTELNET to connect to my Unix accounts, where I can run lynx. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 19:59:59 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Thanks to those who responded to my question about VGA palmtops. = Unfortunately digest #2001-7 has gone missing, so I have not yet received = all the replies, but I'll look into the IBM PC110 and Omnibooks. BTW, if I = find something suitable, my HP will be for sale... :o) In the book "Long-Distance Cruising" by Bobby Schenk there is a photo of a = Sharp PC-3000 receiving weatherfaxes, and it looks like it may have VGA, so = that might be an alternative. Anyone here know these machines? According to = the caption, it will run for 30 hours on three penlights. Barry mentions the Compaq Contura Aero notebook, but I doubt if that is a = good solution, as the only way of charging it would be from AC, and 8 hours = of use isn't much good to me. When cruising, I often go several months = without coming anywhere near a shorepower outlet. In fact, once I leave = Europe, I'ill probably spend all my time in harbour at anchor and never = even go near a marina. I have two ways of generating AC on the boat. One is my 12V DC to 220V AC = inverter, but even on standby, this is too power consuming to consider = continuous use. The other AC source is a small petrol generator. There is = no way I'm using a noisy infernal combustion engine to keep my weatherfax = computer alive! After all, one of the reasons I cruise is to get away from = noise. There are few things less pleasant than sitting at anchor with an = infernal combustion engine running, so the generator is strictly used for = running power tools when working on the boat. A belt sander is noisy enough = that the noise of the generator isn't going to bother me much... :o) As mentioned, I need something that can be kept switched on 24 hours a day = all year round without making a dent in the ships batteries, so anything = that has to be charged from AC or has an always-on backlight is out of the = question. A notebook computer using power saving will probably still draw = too much from the batteries to be left on 24 hours a day. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:15:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > In the book "Long-Distance Cruising" by Bobby Schenk there is a photo > of a Sharp PC-3000 receiving weatherfaxes, and it looks like it may > have VGA, so that might be an alternative. Anyone here know these > machines? According to the caption, it will run for 30 hours on three > penlights. No, only CGA. See http://www.midwintercanada.com/PC3k/pc-3k.faq -- Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 13:22:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Eyesight and 200LX Comments: To: Lars Hedstroem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lars Hedstroem wrote: > Evan wrote: > > > I didn't start having problems with my eyes until about a year > > after I started doing a lot of work on Macintoshes, where I was > > staring at a mostly white screen all day long. My eyes really > > bothered me a lot, but the doctor said that although the damage > > was there it was relatively minor. > > Did the doctor claim that the damage was CRT related? The doctor indicated that it showed the characteristics of CRT-related damage. She didn't go into details and I didn't ask. She is a close friend of my wife and at the time was on the staff of a large university, so I figured she knew what she was talking about. She has since gone exclusively into private practice. > Since then I try to use a laptop > > whenever I can, and try to use a background of mostly darker > > colors. I haven't had any significant problems since then. > > > > I have friends who also get problems with their eyes when they > have been seated a long time in front of their computerscreen. > > They don't get that in front of the tevescreen. I don't watch that much TV and when I do I sit about 8 to 10 feet from the TV, whereas I sit much closer to a computer monitor. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:38:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America,was Re: News/LX News Server Question Comments: To: Tony Hutchins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tony Hutchins wrote: > Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:59:12 +1300 (NZST) > > 01h17m22s ago ... > On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:41:50 +0100, Nathalie Bugeaud was > ... prompted to shout from the Statue of Liberty warehouse: > > > America's weakness is that half the voters are below average in > > intelligence, And 100% of the candidates running fall into the same category. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 14:34:55 -0500 Reply-To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Subject: Printer Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the code to insert into a document to force a form feed of the printer. The printer is a HP DeskJet 648C. There are no DIP switches to set this in hardware. TIA Cliff Crittenden Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 19:49:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: News/LX News Server Question and Fluff Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > are bigger than even Texas is! :) > > Alaska is, of course, if you count the ice. But I don't think > they'd be bigger than us at the same temperature. I just had to comment: GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 19:49:52 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: LX to internet by wireless... Comments: To: Dennis Bell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Motorola Startac with great interest. I've used the newer Motorola Timeport 8767 (tri-mode). > How many of this LX group are connecting by wireless? It does not have IR - cable. > What are the specifics of that connection? Plug in cable, set the software to use com1 (the cabled port) > IR or Cable? IR is probably neat altho, I do hear that using them in awkward situations is a juggling act getting the ir ports lined up. Then again, unless you get a special cable, you have lots of cable to deal with. IR does not necessarily work with programs other than Post/lx suite since Andreas wrote the special driver but maybe it works with others. You need digital service, not analog. > What speed is possible? Are there interference issues? I only ran it as a test when I first got the phone and don't do it regularly. I think it was 14,xxx but it may have been higher?? > WWW/LX, Nettamer, Lynx, or other? Accis and www/lx > ISP? cis and at&t - they don't care about your connecction system. > Just email, www, newsgroups, other? > > Dennis Bell Fred Kaufman > Seattle Seattle! Home of the 2001 Monolith! (I walked down to Greenlake to see it)(G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:07:34 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Mittell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Mittell Subject: Re: Fluff - Happy New Year Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <000901c07852$28416680$0efd36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed ROTFL!! Bon mot! Larry Mittell At 06:33 PM 1/6/01, Barry wrote: >No thanks. I have no faith in facts. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:10:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases inUSA. Comments: To: Robert Kawaratani MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Kawaratani wrote: > However, there's no doubt that using cell phones while driving is a > cause of accidents (speaking as one who has been nearly hit several times > while riding my bicycle but errant drivers talking on their cell phones) and > probably kills people that way. I wouldn't tie that to cell phones...here in Massachusetts I found bike riding to be too dangerous. Too many drivers were careless and hit bikes without having distractions like cell phones. In fact there are drivvers in this state who deliberately try hit bicycles. A while back a cyclist was killed an auto accident and a local talk show host was practically jumping for joy over it (Howie Carrr). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:14:19 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The bottom line is...everything is dangerous > and we are all going to die someday. Speak for yourself. I intend to live for ever, or die trying. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:24:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Jan 2001 to 6 Jan 2001 (#2001-8) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Barry does the Compaq Aero have instant > on/off like the LX/Omnis? Or failing that resume > with a short wait-period? It boots when you turn it on like any dos computer. But dos boots very quicly. Faster than my win98 thinkpad resumes. That won't help, of course, if you want to keep your state. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:39:44 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? In-Reply-To: Hi Morgan, > Thanks to those who responded to my question about VGA palmtops. How about a Toshiba T1000? I had one once. 286, VGA, 1 MB RAM (?), FDD. No HDD, I don't remember any pcmcia, no backlight. You might find one here in Norway, they were common. I have only seen one Omnibook 4xx(?) here; never a PC110. Many of these US models never made it here, or they have different names. Look for a Olivetti Quaderno, this might be a good bet too, but it might have had a hdd. The Compaq Aero would use too much power I think, but it was the first model I thought of. These models can be researched on the net for suitability. Look at any used/pawn shops, maybe qxl.no, sbd.no. br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:18:43 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases in USA. Comments: To: etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU In-Reply-To: <3A586124.23286.7D57B6@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Tamas: Do you work hard at these long messages? At 1/7/01 +0100, you wrote: > Hello all, > >I just saw in the news that the same group of attorneys at law, who Ýsnipped the remainder of the foolishness¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:21:24 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff: Re: IBM 2,5/5GB Microdrive and new money Comments: To: etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU In-Reply-To: <3A586126.21682.7D61AC@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/7/01 +0100, you wrote: > Hello all, > >I have a strange idea. As you heard the IBM Microdrive will soon be >2,5/5GB and it has a disk platter the size of a coin. Ý... snipped much foolishness...¨ What I posted was that this is a rumor which is NOT substantiated. You pose it as a fact. This is wrong. How hard is it for you to create posts like this? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:26:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Pal Al (was Re: New gadget) Comments: To: theise@netins.net In-Reply-To: <200100070839.PNR00993@netins.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed But the message must be read by your program - at the Plamtop - to determine that it is from Pal "Spelling Bee" Al or Tamas "Blackhole of Science" Feher, no? It would be indeed a feat of great magic, and value(!), to delete as soon as the From: header is downloaded. But that seems to be programmatically a major challenge. I suppose the speed would also suffer. At 1/7/01 -0500, you wrote: >A Meshar writes: > > > Thanks for the help, and mostly the affinity of sentiment... > >PNR has a kill function, but I prefer the procmail approach as that >way I don't even have to download the junk. :) > >Ted > >-- >Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA >PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:30:37 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: FLUFF: Working unproductively (was:Re: Eyesight and 200LX) Comments: To: theise@netins.net In-Reply-To: <200100070906.PNR02795@netins.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yes, is seems that your view of what occurs on the screen will be greatly hampered if you sit behind the computer to work. Frontal view seems a bit more productive. At 1/7/01 -0500, you wrote: >A Meshar writes: > > I live in the US and never heard people say they sit behind a computer > screen. > >I gave this some thought and concluded "sit behind a computer screen" >isn't something I hear often, and the only situation in which it seems >likely is with a person in an office (or cubicle :) with the computer >between them and the door. > >Ted > >-- >Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA >PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:11:56 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? In-Reply-To: Hi Owen, Direct mail bounced, so: http://www.qxl.no/scripts/osa/OsAuction.dll?OsaScript=ViewPage&itemNumber=42 2633&templateName=item_form.htx I seem to remember wanting one, a Canon with built-in printer. But I don't know it's power requirements. Another would be a Commodore C286-LT. Most of my recomendations are non-backlight, mono VGA 286, they would use the least power, and most I have seen here in Norway. But the 200LX still beats them hands down! :-) Then there was the Compaq Concerto, a pen-based 486? What about the Toshiba Libretto 20s and 30s? The T1000 might be best, no disk. br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 21:39:20 0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , rogerswn@I-CABLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Shea Subject: Mouse problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list, I have trouble setting a mouse. I'd tried different drivers in 3 LXs. On one of the 200LX, the clicking works, but can't move the pointer. On the other 200LX and 100LX nothing. No movement at all. The mouse works on the desktop. I'd tried CTmouse, driver from the manufacturer site and MS mouse driver, but no luck. I used to hv a mouse that works with my first 200LX, so there must be something I'd missed. Any suggestion? I use lxstat to chk the com port and it is on. And each time the driver did confirme that they were installed successfully. And yes, I hv the null modem adaptor connected. TiA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:29:50 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , dmp24@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David M Peterson Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases in USA. Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a detail that has been absent in this thread. With mobile phones or other cell phones, the issue is not the voltage used by the charger (100-240 volts ac). The issue is the up to 5 watts of radio frequency energy that is produced by the transmitter in the phone. Different people respond to different frequencies. Having the transmitter up against the head, in the same spot for extended periods of time causes energy to be focused at resonant spots. Spots that are constantly damaged then healed can easily become cancerous. If the same phone was used with a hands-free kit, the transmitter would be seperated from the head greatly reducing the power that got into the head. If I remember correctly, the power would decrease with the fourth power of the distance. David Peterson ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 18:23:50 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? Comments: To: ohmorgan@iname.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Owen, I had one of the Sharp PC-3000s before I found the LX. They are CGA. Mine would not run thirty hours on a set of batteries. There is a PC110 mailing list on eGroups. Drop me a line off list if you need help finding it. BTW Owen, mail directly to you gets bounced. Somthing wrong? Dennis Who likes small computers, but loves his LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:48:32 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? In-Reply-To: <10.71fd171.278a5486@aol.com> Opps, getting old... The Quaderno has 2xCGA, 640x400. And the Tosh should be the T1200, but it's also cga-type! Looks different in the pics on the web too. Sigh... Screens then were just so much better! I still think affectionately of me desktop publishing on an XT with 1 MB RAM and a Hercules 735x350 green phosphor screen. Here we are, 10 years later and I still have an XT, albeight in my pocket... I think I dropped progress along the way. You know, Bill might have been right saying that 640 KB RAM is enough. :-) br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 19:17:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > > The bottom line is...everything is dangerous > > and we are all going to die someday. > > Speak for yourself. I intend to live for ever, or die trying. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml The only ones who will live forever are Barnabas Collins, McLeod, Duncan MacLeod Dracula, the hp200lx., etc. Personally...I would not want to live forever...the human body can last only so long before it wears out. Science may enbable you to live forever but your legs, your memory, etc. won't last forever. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 17:28:07 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America Comments: To: revwkschultz@JUNO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Souldn't that be "half of the people would have to be below the *median*" ? Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Schultz" To: Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 6:13 AM Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America > > > America's weakness is that half the voters are below average in > > > intelligence, > > Ah, not that I consider myself to be above average in intelligence, > but...in every country of the world, half of the people would have to be > below average. This is a redundant statement. I think Nathalie made a > funny. > > |¬¬¬¬¬| Colossians 3:23 > (@ @) Rev William K Schultz > | /\ | Resurrection Lutheran Church, LCMS > |_ --_| 2495 Cabrillo Ave, Santa Clara Ca 95051 > | | (408) 241-2728 > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 03:37:19 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Pal Al (was Re: New gadget) In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010107082225.01b3a4c0@mail.alwaysafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, A Meshar wrote: > But the message must be read by your program - at the Plamtop - to > determine that it is from Pal "Spelling Bee" Al or Tamas "Blackhole of > Science" Feher, no? Well, yes, sort of. Look below. > It would be indeed a feat of great magic, and value(!), to delete as soon > as the From: header is downloaded. But that seems to be programmatically a > major challenge. I suppose the speed would also suffer. Procmail runs on the mail-server (UNIX variety), and sorts your mail as it arrives (in Ted's example it doesn't directly delete the offending mail, it just moves it to /dev/null - aka the bit bucket). The user never actually gets to see or download the actual messages, and speed is not a problem (a relatively simple pattern matching takes place) as mail servers generally have more processing power than an LX, far more these days. It doesn't work on digests, for obvious reasons. Implementing it on the LX would be quite doable (and probably not too slow either). A suggestion for Post/LX perhaps? ;-) Procmail works great, BTW, highly recommended. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 03:41:23 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Pal Al (was Re: New gadget) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > Implementing it on the LX would be quite doable (and probably not too > slow either). A suggestion for Post/LX perhaps? ;-) Okay, so Post/LX already has mail sorting capabilities. Sorry ;-) Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:43:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Omnobook for or Owen? (2nd try) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried sending this to Owen off list but it bounced twice. I believe an Omnibook 430 might be better since it doesn't load as much stuff into RAM but I don't have one of those to offer.... Subject: Trade Omnibook for 200LX? Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2001 12:58:25 -0500 From: Andrew King To: "Owen H. Morgan" Owen I don't know why I didn't think of this. I have indeed described the Omnibook as an overgrown palmtop. Like the palmtop it runs DOS from ROM (the 30 and 425 also run basic WIN3.1/PIM/word/excel from ROM). If you want to try one out I'd offer the following: I'll ship you a Omnibook 425 with 4 meg of RAM and no C: drive. You need a PCMCIA card (at least 20 meg) to be the C: drive. There was also a 40 meg type III hard drive but if you're interested in low power you'll want the RAM card. If it works for you you send me the 200LX that you have so I can have a spare. If it doesn't work you ship the Omnibook back to me. You can check Qman's home page if you want to know more about the Omnibook: http://home.earthlink.net/~qman/ -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question >Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? > Date:Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:36:51 EST > From:Dennis Vest >Owen, >I would recommend an OmniBook. Either the 300 or 425/430. B/W VGA screens and >can run on CF cards in PCMCIA adapters. They do run on AA cells, but most >people use the rechargeable batteries instead. They are a bit larger, though. >Imagine a 200LX about the size of a sheet of paper and an inch or two thick >when closed up. Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:26:06 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Pal Al (was Re: New gadget) A Meshar writes: > But the message must be read by your program - at the Plamtop - to > determine that it is from Pal "Spelling Bee" Al or Tamas "Blackhole of > Science" Feher, no? I must not have been clear. Procmail runs on my Unix shell at my ISP. "Select" messages never even make it into my POP mailbox, hence no need to check headers when downloading. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:56:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: News/LX News Server Question and Fluff Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <000d01c07853$62a3e220$0efd36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Well, yeah. If the rest of the states get together you're bigger >than us. But I don't think any 5 continental states are as big as >us. > >Alaska is, of course, if you count the ice. But I don't think >they'd be bigger than us at the same temperature. I remember a movement in Alaska to divide into 5 states, each larger than Texas.... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:16:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: LX to internet by wireless... Comments: To: Dennis Bell In-Reply-To: <385004055.978847122658.JavaMail.root@web585-ec.mail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >I am interested to hear of US users of th LX who have had success >connecting to the internet with a wireless phone. I have read >European experience, which depends on GSM phones but, alas, in the >US that is limited (currently). > >I have followed the several threads regarding the Motorola Startac >with great interest. How many of this LX group are connecting by >wireless? I *have* done this when out of town. >What are the specifics of that connection? >What phone are you using? Motorola StarTAC >What features should one look for? CDMA >IR or Cable? Wired >What speed is possible? Are there interference issues? 14400 at present >WWW/LX, Nettamer, Lynx, or other? WWW/LX and acCIS >ISP? Compuserve >Just email, www, newsgroups, other? E-mail only, for me. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:19:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases in USA. Comments: To: etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU In-Reply-To: <3A586124.23286.7D57B6@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >(BTW, there is another aspect to this debate. In Europe lots of >people die due to shock from 230V electricity, which is small >problem in USA as accidents from 110V cannot kill an adult. To use that famous phrase of the 90's: Yeah, Right! -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:25:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases in USA. Comments: To: dmp24@JUNO.COM In-Reply-To: <20010107.152952.-1723853.0.dmp24@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >The issue is the up to 5 watts of radio frequency energy that is produced >by the transmitter in the phone. I believe the maximum allowed for ANY cell-phone in the US is 3 watts, and the maximum for a typical hand-held unit, the VAST majority of the units in use today, is 600 milliwatts. >Spots that are constantly damaged then healed can easily become cancerous. Please point me to peer-reviewed literature and controlled studies proving this factoid. >If I remember correctly, the power would decrease with the fourth >power of the distance. You don't. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:51:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: FLUFF: Toyota Prius MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anyone is interested in the Toyota Prius gasoline/electric hybrid car I found a EPA report on it at http://searchpdf.adobe.com/proxies/2/31/4/56.html You can search for EPA420-R-98-006 if the link doesn't work -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 23:17:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: 100LX to Palm OS conversion Comments: To: BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > A few remarks: the form factor of the Palm Pilot is its biggest argument, > it really fits into a shirt pocket. I'm using the Palm Pilot as a PC > companion, not a stand-alone unit (although I bought the foldable keyboard > so I can do bigger typing jobs if required). To have the applications I > need on the Palm, I spent almost USD 200 in commercial and shareware > programs. Nevertheless, I'm keeping my HP 200 LX and I don't think I will > get rid of it any time soon. Since I may be faced with this decision very soon, (unfortunately), exactly what tools have you found useful on the Palm? It's not that I want to convert...but it's becoming increasing clear that I need to be able to sync my email and tasks between my palmtop and my computer at work. The Palm will allow me to do that...while it's not really workable on the 200LX. -- David Ball ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:20:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Omnibook for Owen? >>I would recommend an OmniBook. Either the 300 or 425/430. B/W VGA >>screens and can run on CF cards in PCMCIA adapters. They do run on >>AA cells, but most people use the rechargeable batteries instead. >>They are a bit larger, though. Imagine a 200LX about the size of a >>sheet of paper and an inch or two thick when closed up. Message-Id: <20010108052022.ZTKK29713.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.188¨> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 05:20:27 +0000 I'll throw my vote in also for the Omnibook series, which were an evolutionary development from the LX palmtops (which they so lovingly resemble). To boost power savings, you'd have to replace the normal PCMCIA Type III hardrive with a flash card. I just sold my spare 425 and am holding onto my 430 and 530 ... both really nice machines, and maybe even more so after I get my Microdrive next week. The 300/425 boot from a ROM card and locks you into DOS 5.0 (like the LX) .. and this is a severe limitation for some people. 430 locks you into a DOS 6.2 boot via ROM card, and the 530 (with the fastest processor at 486/33) finally uncoupled the OS and requires no ROM card for bootup. They can be had on ebay sometimes (where I got mine). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:29:27 +0800 Reply-To: leongft@yeos.com.my Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leong Foo Tek Subject: Re: Mouse problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you tried enable COM1 port in DOS? I use CTmouse driver and it works very well. Regards, Leong ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Mouse problem Author: "HPLX Mailing List" Date: 1/5/2001 5:39 AM Hi list, I have trouble setting a mouse. I'd tried different drivers in 3 LXs. On one of the 200LX, the clicking works, but can't move the pointer. On the other 200LX and 100LX nothing. No movement at all. The mouse works on the desktop. I'd tried CTmouse, driver from the manufacturer site and MS mouse driver, but no luck. I used to hv a mouse that works with my first 200LX, so there must be something I'd missed. Any suggestion? I use lxstat to chk the com port and it is on. And each time the driver did confirme that they were installed successfully. And yes, I hv the null modem adaptor connected. TiA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:34:27 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brandon Lin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brandon Lin Subject: WTB Modem Flash memory Combo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anybody have a modem/flash mem combo they would like to dump or know where i can find one? Thanks Brandon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 22:46:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: LX to internet by wireless... Comments: To: theise@netins.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm still waiting for cable for my ST7868W. In my area, we have only analog. After looking on the 3Com/USR/MHz web site, it appears they sell a cable for the MHz 3CXM556 modem to connect to the StarTac. What that tells me is that with this modem, I can use analog -- but not on the LX, just on Omnibook. I have used a Montana 33.6 modem with the analog Motorola flip phones with Win95. So in low tech areas (analog) I have to use Win95, in high tech areas (digital) I can use the LX on the StarTac ST7868W or similar phones. Haven't actually tried any of this stuff yet. Bob > conditions. You do need a digital signal, I believe--it doesn't -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:41:05 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Pal Al (was Re: New gadget) Comments: To: theise@netins.net In-Reply-To: <200100072126.PNR00601@netins.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed David Sargent wrote that to me as well... I am not familiar with procmail, just heard the name... This sounds good. Would be nice to have something like this that post/lx could communicate with :-) ... At 1/7/01 -0500, you wrote: >A Meshar writes: > > But the message must be read by your program - at the Plamtop - to > > determine that it is from Pal "Spelling Bee" Al or Tamas "Blackhole of > > Science" Feher, no? > >I must not have been clear. Procmail runs on my Unix shell at my ISP. >"Select" messages never even make it into my POP mailbox, hence no need >to check headers when downloading. > >Ted > >-- >Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA >PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:44:22 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Pal Al (was Re: New gadget) Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Laust, At 1/8/01 +0100, you wrote: >Implementing it on the LX would be quite doable (and probably not too slow >either). A suggestion for Post/LX perhaps? ;-) > >Procmail works great, BTW, highly recommended. It really sounds very useful. As far as add on to Post/LX: It would have to be something in post/lx that talks to something (procmail on Unix and ??? on NT servers) on the servers. Maybe this is a good item for Andreas to think about... Thank you! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:47:37 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Pal Al (was Re: New gadget) Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Laust, At 1/8/01 +0100, you wrote: >On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > > Implementing it on the LX would be quite doable (and probably not too > > slow either). A suggestion for Post/LX perhaps? ;-) > >Okay, so Post/LX already has mail sorting capabilities. Sorry ;-) yes, but it would be interesting to see if Post/lx can talk to some aerver app - see my other message... >Cheers, > >Laust > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:47:18 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: 100LX to Palm OS conversion Comments: To: David Ball Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Monday, 08.01.2001 at 05:17 GMT, David Ball wrote: > Since I may be faced with this decision very soon, (unfortunately), > exactly what tools have you found useful on the Palm? > > It's not that I want to convert...but it's becoming increasing clear > that I need to be able to sync my email and tasks between my palmtop and > my computer at work. The Palm will allow me to do that...while it's not > really workable on the 200LX. > I'm using the following Palm Pilot Software: PalmSafe (USD 11.95): Allows to enter IDs and corresponding Passwords or PIN numbers, displays the info in a very readable format and stores the data encrypted with Blowfish. BackupBuddy (USD 29.95): Backs up all Palm Pilot files, allows selective restore and also supports time synchronization with the PC. QuickSheet (USD 24.95): Excel-compatible spreadsheet program. Has a PC component that plugs into MS Excel. I find the recalc speed very slow but the spreadsheet I'm using has a lot of @IF functions. I've seen another spreadsheet on a friend's TRGPro run very fast with QuickSheet. BTW. I was unable to find a spreadsheet program for the Palm that would support Lotus 1-2-3 on www.palmgear.com. TextPlus (USD 19.95): A tool that suggests words and phrases when typing. This one can speed up text entry quite considerably. I'm using the German and US English vocabularies (you can add your own words and phrases, too). DateBook (USD 24.95) 4: This tool greatly improves the built-in calendar, phone book and to-do list applications. However, I had to read the 100+ page User's Guide back-to-back to really understand how to make best use of the tool. HandBase (USD 24.99): A powerful database tool which comes with a PC component. There are a number of other DB tools for the Palm. I chose HandBase because the demo version came with the PC component so I could test the conversion of my HP 200 LX databases. Other tools only provided the PC component upon registration (with payment) and I hate to buy a pig in a poke. PowerRoute (DEM 79,90): A route planner with maps for Germany, Switzerland, Austria. Additionally, I'm using a number of freeware tools: EasySync: Synchronizes Palm Pilot applications with Lotus Notes or Organizer. I'm only synchronizing the calendar with the Lotus Notes calendar and the mail application with Lotus Notes mail. I'm not sure whether EasySynch is freeware, for me it is. CryptoPad: Allows to store notebook entries encrypted with Blowfish. BigClock: Very nice "full screen" clock display with alarms, stopwatch, world time. HandyShopper: Shopping lists. MobiPocket: A document reader. WorldClock: Displays different time zones with DST etc. Convert: A conversion tool with a huge list of physical and technical units. Currency (Currex): A currency converter. You can download conversion rates for 100+ currencies from the web (updated daily). MoonPhase: A little program that calculates moon phases. Z'Catalog: A "system utility" that allows to delete files, applications etc. selectively. Not for the faint of heart. I downloaded all the software from www.palmgear.com which is a great repository for Palm Pilot software with thousands of freeware, shareware and commercial products. Ulrich Boche IT Security Technical Consultant IBM eServer Sales Technical Support (OS/390 + e-Business Security) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 00:01:26 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: WTB: HP AC Adapter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 02-01 05:00 MET, vous avez ecrit: > I was just looking at the AC adapter for my old Nokia 2160 cellphone.= It says > 12V@1A on it. It should work. Remember that the Omnigo 700 (the HP200LX with a craddle for a Nokia 2110) was not compatible with the HP's LX adapter... Because you were supposed to use Nokia's adapters ! :-) > Hmmm. Gotta run to Radio Shack to get a new plug to solder on > so I can try it on myt LX. But don't forget to invert the ploarity in the plug. It is the main difference between HP and Nokia... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:26:56 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Suquet, Stephan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Suquet, Stephan" Subject: Memory for Excel 2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I work with some big files in Excel format. Does anyone know if it=B4s = possible to work in a 200lx 1MB + flashcard, with files around 300K, = 400K ? Is there a trick to increase usable mem or using card mem.... Thanks in advance and happy new year to you all. Regards St=E9phane SUQUET-LIZARRAGA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:01:43 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! I've looked at the website for the IBM PC110 and have decided that it is = probably too powerhungry for my needs, and I think the same would apply to = the Compaq Aero that has been mentioned. So far, the closest match to my = requirements is probably the Omnibook even if it's a bit on the large side = and rather more powerhungry than the HP. The size doesn't matter that much = though as I'll only be using it on the boat, so I don't need portability. I'm seriously considering taking Andrew King up on his offer to swap an = Omnibook for my HP. The question is how we're going to do this without = being charged customs duty and possibly even 24% Norwegian VAT for the = machines going between Norway and Michigan... Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:01:55 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: LX to internet by wireless... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy. Fred Kaufman wrote (>): > IR is probably neat altho, I do hear that using them in > awkward situations is a juggling act getting the ir ports > lined up. I use an Ericsson MC218 palmtop and an Ericsson SH888 cell phone for my = e-mail. The place I worked last winter, I had a 45 minute bus ride to work, = so used to collect my e-mail on the bus on my way to work. It was not = always easy with the phone and computer balanced on my lap and the need for = a free hand to operate the computer! If I'd had a cable it would have been = a lot easier. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:07:26 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe a Quaderno? If everything goes right, I should own 2.9 Quaderno's in about a week. = ( 2 whole, one in parts). They have the ATT type screen - 640*400 -, boot = from ROM, etc. Might one of those be any use? It would be comparatively = cheap. They are 16 Mhz V30 type systems and shutting down the small hard disk = you could run off flash. Shipping between Netherlands and Norway might go = easy. Michel -----Original Message----- From: Owen H. Morgan Ýmailto:ohmorgan@INAME.COM¨ Sent: 08 January 2001 15:02 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? Howdy! I've looked at the website for the IBM PC110 and have decided that it = is probably too powerhungry for my needs, and I think the same would apply = to the Compaq Aero that has been mentioned. So far, the closest match to = my requirements is probably the Omnibook even if it's a bit on the large = side and rather more powerhungry than the HP. The size doesn't matter that = much though as I'll only be using it on the boat, so I don't need = portability. I'm seriously considering taking Andrew King up on his offer to swap an Omnibook for my HP. The question is how we're going to do this without = being charged customs duty and possibly even 24% Norwegian VAT for the = machines going between Norway and Michigan... Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:09:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Owen, >I'm seriously considering taking Andrew King up on his offer to swap an >Omnibook for my HP. The question is how we're going to do this without being >charged customs duty and possibly even 24% Norwegian VAT for the machines >going between Norway and Michigan... Good idea for both of you, maybe. Talk to Martin B., he's on the list and has imported stuff from the US. If one marks it as a gift it will be exempt from VAT, I have done this a few times. br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:28:22 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Memory for Excel 2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stephan wrote: >I work with some big files in Excel format. Does anyone know if it4s possible to >work in a 200lx 1MB + flashcard, with files around 300K, 400K ? Depends on what is in the files... Lots of formatting will bump the file size up cosiderably. I used to take great pleasure in taking people down when they talked of large files in Excel. I used to convert it to wk1 and load them on my palmtop (then a 700LX) in Lotus 1-2-3. They were rather amazed at my functioning copy of there "large" spreadsheet on their Wintel pc. So consider maybe that route. Or not. br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 09:52:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: 200LX crashes/file corruption I've posted before about problems with my 1MB/upgraded to 5MB, single-speed 200LX. Each time I've been hopeful that the measures taken would eliminate the problems, but they keep coming back. Recent problems have seemed to stem from the cold weather we've been having, and if I leave my briefcase in a place where the 200LX will get cold for awhile (40 degrees or so), then I will get corrupted files and filenames. I don't do anything exotic with it--I just have a bunch of text files that I use to hold information, editing them with Memo and with an editor program called DVED. I like DVED because it's much faster than Memo, and if I have one file open in DVED I can open another in Memo at the same time. (I'd like to try Quicken, but I'm not about to trust my finances to it when it's like this.) Weird things also happen, like a file named 'SA' having its contents changed so that it has the middle part of a file named 'M' instead of what it is supposed to have. Certain things refuse to work from time to time, including, currently, the picture I had been using in place of the topcard--it refuses to display, and I've tried all my backup files--none of them will work. I've tried everything, including leaving all the batteries out overnight. I routinely reboot using Ctrl-Alt-Del and Ctrl-Shift-On, as needed. I also have renamed some of the files on the C: drive with nonsense names so that they just don't get used, thinking that perhaps that area of memory has problems so I'll just avoid it. I then put a copy of the file I'm using back on another part of the C: drive. The backup battery is O.K. currently--I replaced it just to be sure-it didn't really need it. I cycle two sets of Kodak NiMH batteries, one set per week while the other is recharging. I've gotten by with these procedures, and restoring files from backups on PCMCIA cards and the hard drive of my desktop, but it's getting old. Everything I've tried has helped, but not much longer now than two weeks. I got the 200LX thinking it would be a pretty much 'bulletproof' machine which would be very reliable, but I've been disappointed. I'm to the place where it looks like I'll just have to send it to Thaddeus and pay the price, hoping it will be O.K. after that. Thanks for any thoughts you may have. Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Whoever welcomes a child in My name welcomes Me," Jesus said. "Whoever welcomes Me welcomes not Me but the One who sent Me." -Mark 9:37 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:06:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America, was Re: News/LX News Server Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's the same everywhere you have a democracy. That's why, even though you have a duly elected leader, he/she is still subject to the system of checks and balances. In this way, one hopes that even a duly elected idiot cannot cause too much damage. Ignorance and stupidity are part of the human condition, however, when you consider where we were as a species just a few generations ago, I think there has been a good bit of improvement. I think that literacy was a prerequisite to democracy. As for the America-bashing. take it as a compliment fellow Americans. It's a natural tendency to hate someone for their prosperity and good fortune. People get intimidated by us but I'm sure they are thankful that the US is a (mostly) benevolent power. If the French were as financially, culturally and politically successful as the US of A everyone would hate them too... oh, wait, everyone does hate them. :-/ okay, bad example but I think you know what I mean. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Hutchins" To: Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 3:07 AM Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America, was Re: News/LX News Server Question Sun, 7 Jan 2001 20:59:12 +1300 (NZST) 01h17m22s ago ... On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 07:41:50 +0100, Nathalie Bugeaud was ... prompted to shout from the Statue of Liberty warehouse: > America's weakness is that half the voters are below average in > intelligence, It's the same here in New Zealand too Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml . .edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 10:36:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases in,USA. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:29:50 -0800, David M Peterson wrote: > There is a detail that has been absent in this thread. With mobile phones > or other cell phones, the issue is not the voltage used by the charger > (100-240 volts ac). > > The issue is the up to 5 watts of radio frequency energy that is produced > by the transmitter in the phone. Gsm has a max of 2W. A lot of studies on the cellphone/cancer problem nowadays. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:42:01 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Buford Subject: OT-Re: Toyota Prius, et al MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For those that are interested in EV's (my other hobby), you can contact me off list. Just a few quick FAQ's. The EV1 gen II has a USEABLE range of >120 miles! John Wayland in Portland, OR has a converted (by him) Toyota extra cab PU with a range of >120 miles! Currently the fastest EV in the 1/4 mile is Dennis Berube's Electric Dragster "Current Eliminator IV" at 8.801 sec @ 137.35 MPH see http://www.nedra.com/ and http://www.public.asu.edu/~opossum/berube/home/ Almost All EV's can be recharged to 80% of full capacity in as little as 15 min. The EV listserv archives can be found at http://www.crest.org/ev-list-archive/ and you can subscribe using the following procedure To subscribe to the EV mailing list, send the following command to the LISTSERVer at listproc@listproc.sjsu.edu : SUBSCRIBE EV firstname lastname After subscribing, you may enable the digest feature by sending 'SET EV DIGEST' to the LISTSERVer. After subscribing, messages may be sent to the list by sending to: ev@sjsuvm1.sjsu.edu. Thanks Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:08:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: TN3270 for WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 8 Jan 2001 08:54:19 -0500 (EST) Actually it was Stefan66s AUTOCAPs. Cheers...AJKind 2 days 13h47m32s ago ... On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Steve Carder wrote: > >I haven66t yet been able to go accross the LAN. > > >doesn66t seem to accept bootp? > > Looks like someone forgot to start up Buddy's Smart Caps before typing = this > message . > > Steve Carder > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 07:34:43 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 200LX crashes/file corruption Comments: cc: beamsplitter@JUNO.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << Weird things also happen, like a file named 'SA' having its contents changed so that it has the middle part of a file named 'M' instead of what it is supposed to have. Certain things refuse to work from time to time, including, currently, the picture I had been using in place of the topcard--it refuses to display, and I've tried all my backup files--none of them will work. >> Sounds like a problem with the File Allocation Table (FAT). When this problem occurs again (file contents getting mixed up), try exiting to DOS and running "chkdsk" on the drive and see if problems are reported. In fact, you should run that now just to verify the state of the FAT. There are a bunch of reasons why it can go bad on you ... usually dealing with reboots while applications are running, but I usually don't get those problems, having long since made my peace with Murphy. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:04:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: OT: Deutsche Bahn Schedule of PALM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:00:24 -0500 (EST) Greetings (and apologies for Off Topic post): I have a collegue that travels frequently between US & Germany, and would like to keep the DB schedule on his PALM. Could one of you familier with DB schedules on-line contact me OffList? TIA Cheers...AJKind * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:49:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: Sony Memory Stick PCMCIA Card Adapter Comments: To: Bryan Biggers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan Biggers wrote: > > To elaborate on what I mailed you, I have one. It is the Sony > MSAC-PC2. I have one 8MB "stick" and it seems to work fine in the > HP200LX. I can get a directory, and copy files from and to it. I > have to used it extensively, but it seems to work. Bryan ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi Is it possible to boot from the stick 1.) on the hp200lx, 2.) on a 'real' PC with 'bootable' PCMCIA-slots? It would be nice to have one's w*-backup (with long file-names a.s.o.) on such a stick. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:54:08 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: 2GB microdrive Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > > > And the IBM Microdrive may not be standing still either. ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi I see one advantage of memory-cards (and particularly in combination with such handheld as the 200lx) that they don't make noises. How loud is such an IBM Microdrive in comparison to a 'normal' PC-HD? K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:30:58 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: WTB: Omnibook 3xx/4xx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi firneds, does anyone have an HP Omnibook 3xx or 4xx for sale, preferrably a German model? I'm really interested in one. What are the current prices? I don't find them on ebay (at least not on ebay.de). What are the specs and differences of the different models? GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:31:01 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: LX to internet by wireless... Comments: To: Dennis Bell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Dennis, Have a look at http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx There youc can find general information about connecting the HPLX via wireless to the internet. Mostly European experiences, but also American ones. A little bi t about the Startac also. I hope this helps GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:33:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , geologist@MINDSPRING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "William E. Blankenship" Subject: Re: Memory for Excel 2.1 Comments: To: "Suquet, Stephan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I think all you need to do is to use an expanded mamory manager to simulate extra memory installed. The EMS managers that I have, buffers to disk. I use TREMM, the EMS manager, that came with my Double Speed 200LX I purchased from Thaddeus. (This is a great machine by the way! You should upgrade.) I also use an old version of Excel running under Windows 3.0. I have no problems. There are other EMS managers available on the Super Site. Backup your data before installing one. You don't really need to take the time to set up one of these EMS managers (not that it takes thata long). More often than not, an Excel file converts perfectly to a smaller sized Lotus 123 format. Without all the Windows formatting there isn't any need to worry about the file size. The only drawback that I have seen is the usage of functions that are not supported universally by each program. This is rare, though. Hope this helps. William E. Blankenship =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Original Message Snip Below -=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D > Hi all, > > I work with some big files in Excel format. Does anyone know > if it=B4s possible to work in a 200lx 1MB + flashcard, with files = around 300K, > 400K ? Is there a trick to increase usable mem or using card > mem.... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 11:46:08 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM Subject: Re: 2GB microdrive Comments: To: Klaus Reinhardt In-Reply-To: <3A5A7D50.719@TU-Berlin.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Klaus, At 1/8/01 -0800, you wrote: >A Meshar wrote: > > > > > And the IBM Microdrive may not be standing still either. >----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- >Hi > >I see one advantage of memory-cards (and particularly in >combination with such handheld as the 200lx) that they don't >make noises. How loud is such an IBM Microdrive in comparison >to a 'normal' PC-HD? MUCH more quiet. It is more like a whisper... When the read head parks there is a tiny tiny click, but no more. Very quiet. > K@Rdt >----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:00:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: 200LX crashes/file corruption Comments: To: Mark Shields In-Reply-To: <20010108.095228.4022.0.beamsplitter@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps there is a poor solder connection on the board such as where the added memory was installed. Temperature and/or vibration could cause the symptoms you describe. This may need a Thaddeus repair. Thanks, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com mailto:Sales@Systems-Consulting.com Paul Anderson President Maximizing the results of Information Systems Certified Novell Salesperson Your ALPS Printer Supplies Source -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Mark Shields Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 9:52 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: 200LX crashes/file corruption I've posted before about problems with my 1MB/upgraded to 5MB, single-speed 200LX. Each time I've been hopeful that the measures taken would eliminate the problems, but they keep coming back. Recent problems have seemed to stem from the cold weather we've been having, and if I leave my briefcase in a place where the 200LX will get cold for awhile (40 degrees or so), then I will get corrupted files and filenames. I don't do anything exotic with it--I just have a bunch of text files that I use to hold information, editing them with Memo and with an editor program called DVED. I like DVED because it's much faster than Memo, and if I have one file open in DVED I can open another in Memo at the same time. (I'd like to try Quicken, but I'm not about to trust my finances to it when it's like this.) Weird things also happen, like a file named 'SA' having its contents changed so that it has the middle part of a file named 'M' instead of what it is supposed to have. Certain things refuse to work from time to time, including, currently, the picture I had been using in place of the topcard--it refuses to display, and I've tried all my backup files--none of them will work. I've tried everything, including leaving all the batteries out overnight. I routinely reboot using Ctrl-Alt-Del and Ctrl-Shift-On, as needed. I also have renamed some of the files on the C: drive with nonsense names so that they just don't get used, thinking that perhaps that area of memory has problems so I'll just avoid it. I then put a copy of the file I'm using back on another part of the C: drive. The backup battery is O.K. currently--I replaced it just to be sure-it didn't really need it. I cycle two sets of Kodak NiMH batteries, one set per week while the other is recharging. I've gotten by with these procedures, and restoring files from backups on PCMCIA cards and the hard drive of my desktop, but it's getting old. Everything I've tried has helped, but not much longer now than two weeks. I got the 200LX thinking it would be a pretty much 'bulletproof' machine which would be very reliable, but I've been disappointed. I'm to the place where it looks like I'll just have to send it to Thaddeus and pay the price, hoping it will be O.K. after that. Thanks for any thoughts you may have. Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Whoever welcomes a child in My name welcomes Me," Jesus said. "Whoever welcomes Me welcomes not Me but the One who sent Me." -Mark 9:37 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:10:16 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: LokTite, Anyone? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, after the fact, I'm gonna ask if anyone ever used a dab of LokTite on their HPÝ12¨00LX screws. I had a screw that had worked loose, and in a fit of overkill I removed each corner screw one at a time, and re- installed each with a dab of LokTite thread sealing compound. With my luck I have permanently sealed my unit, never to be opened up again. Seriously, this stuff isn't *that* permanent, and we use it all the time for this very reason. Anyone ever tried it on their units? Any pros/ cons? -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 12:22:37 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: LokTite, Anyone? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << Well, after the fact, I'm gonna ask if anyone ever used a dab of LokTite on their HPÝ12¨00LX screws. I had a screw that had worked loose, and in a fit of overkill I removed each corner screw one at a time, and re- installed each with a dab of LokTite thread sealing compound. With my luck I have permanently sealed my unit, never to be opened up again. Seriously, this stuff isn't *that* permanent, and we use it all the time for this very reason. Anyone ever tried it on their units? Any pros/ cons? >> Sounds good to me. I've never used LokTite on anything, tho I've heard that you can release it by heating it a bit (maybe with a warm screwdriver tip?) ... but don't take the word of a non-hardware person on that, nor blame me for melting down your case. - Longden PS I still think spray-on truckbed liner would be the better fix for broken hinges, lost screws and a nice form-fitting cover ... now if only I can figure out how to change the batteries! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:03:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases in USA. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > (BTW, there is another aspect to this debate. In Europe lots of > people die due to shock from 230V electricity, which is small > problem in USA as accidents from 110V cannot kill an adult. > No! Voltage is largely irrelevant in discussions of electrocution. It's the amperage that kills. And there is sufficient amperage in North American electrical systems to kill an adult, if the current is applied across the heart or through the brain. Bzzt! Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:03:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > America's weakness is that half the voters are below average in > intelligence, yet have the same vote as the highly intelligent. The > ignorant, the gullible, the confused all have the same ballot power as those > who actually develop a political philosophy. It is no wonder that American > Democracy's strength is that only the more intelligent folks understand how important it is to vote, and actually show up on election day. > who actually develop a political philosophy. It is no wonder that American > candidates now have monosyllabic, four-letter names so as not to overload > the voters' minds as well as campaigns aimed at the lowest denominator. > Good observation, but the reason why American candidates pander to the half who are "below average in intelligence" is because that is where all the remaining undecided votes lie. More proof that the system works! Quod erat demonstratum. Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:06:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The following editorial was broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator, in the early 1970's. We could all learn from it even today: "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. "Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. "When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. "When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. "The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. "I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas 10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? "Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. "You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. "When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. "I can name you 500 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. "They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those." Now can we get back on topic? Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:27:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------C2BA7F43121FCC6BBF4B245A" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C2BA7F43121FCC6BBF4B245A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie wrote: > America's weakness is that half the voters are below average in > intelligence, Well, Nathalie, unless you're joking, you (as one holding a Doctorate degree) should know that, logically, or rather, statistically, the same problem exists in any organization that allows voting by the general membership. (Unless doctors in France get their degrees from Cracker-Jack boxes!) In order for a system like this to work properly, the voters must get up off their fat butts and make the effort to become educated and informed. If they don't, then they get what they deserve -- which is demonstrated in the ridiculous events of the last 8 years, and will likely be in evidence for all future years until the American people wake up and start thinking for themselves! Likewise, your list of criterion that American voters use is a good example of the fallacy of generalization. Just because SOME people use such inane and shallow measures for selecting their elected officials doesn't mean that we ALL do, and it's illogical, foolish and ridiculous to suggest so. However, I do not doubt that the same problem exists in France as well. So, while we're taking jabs people's homelands, wasn't France the country whose people executed all of their fellow countrymen who had the means, money, education and opportunity to provide those same things to the lower classes, and are now stuck in a socialist economy/government that has been nothing more than a sniveling lap-dog to more powerful countries for the past 200-odd years? It seems they are more concerned with fashion, wine (or was that whine?) and cheese, than with true freedom and real democracy. Of course, that said, I now admit to making the same logical errors as Nathalie, simply to make a point. That point being: Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones! i.e.: Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone. So, let's not abuse or insult one another, since the purpose of this list is to bring people together. Sorry for the long post. Richard --------------C2BA7F43121FCC6BBF4B245A Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="seronac.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard and Patti Smith Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="seronac.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://seronac.freeservers.com/ adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:seronac@freeport.com fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------C2BA7F43121FCC6BBF4B245A-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 13:23:02 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: WTB: Omnibook 3xx/4xx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << does anyone have an HP Omnibook 3xx or 4xx for sale, preferrably a German model? I'm really interested in one. What are the current prices? I don't find them on ebay (at least not on ebay.de). >> I've never seen a German model advertised in US ebay, but working 3xx-4xx can sell here for as little as $70 to as high as $400, depending on their condition and what accessories come with it. Generally the low prices mean drive doors are missing or bad batteries, or scratched screens/cases. I had a 425 and still own a 430 and a 530. These keep showing up on US ebay, albeit in fits. Right now is a quiet moment ... no sales. << What are the specs and differences of the different models? >> Look at -> ftp://elektro.cmhnet.org/pub/omnilist/FAQ Basically, 3xx-5xx are all the same physical size and have the same 9" grey scale non-backlit VGA screen. They mostly differ on their processors and maximum RAM, and the packaged OS (which is fixed due to the ROM boot ... like the 200LX). They all use the same NiCad battery pack (about $60) which can be substituted with 2 AAs in a pinch. Model Proc:speed RAM/Storage OS Batt hrs 300 386SXLV:20 2-8/10-40mb DOS 5.0, Win 3.1 5-9 425 486SLC/e:25 " " " 430 486SLC/e:25 4-8/40-105 DOS 6.2, Win 3.1 4.5 530 486SX:33 4-16/130 DOS 6.2, Win 3.1 " Higher models got progressively poorer battery life. 530 was the only one that didn't boot from ROM. Longtime Omnibookers can feel free to correct the above. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:14:56 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases in USA. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT on 7 Jan 2001, at 15:29, David M Peterson wrote about "Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor ": > > If the same phone was used with a hands-free kit, the transmitter would > be seperated from the head greatly reducing the power that got into the > head. If I remember correctly, the power would decrease with the fourth > power of the distance. > this is not true in all cases. It depends from where you carry your phone and on the antenna and the cable to your ears. I have seen experiments showing that radiation can be even more intense with hands-free kits. The cable to the earphone is working like an antenna. If you are afraid of HF you should use a external antenna or not use a mobile phone... 73! Werner OE9FWV -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:14:56 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Fluff: Re: Fwd: C-Netz ist aus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Daniel, all radio amateurs in germany should go out to save the transmitter equippment from damage ... when they shut down C-Net in Austria, the base stations could be bought for very low prices and they had vy good 60 Ampere switching power supplies and 70 cm transmitters that can be used for amateur radio after some changes. 73! Werner OE9FW V on 7 Jan 2001, at 12:24, Daniel Hertrich wrote about "Fwd: C-Netz ist aus": > Hi friends, > > this is especially for the German list members - and I have to admit > that it is not directly on topic here. But for those who used analog > mobile phones with their LXs it IS on topic! ;-) > -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:14:56 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Pal Al (was Re: New gadget) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, with my email provider I can set up a filter, that kicks mail to the nul device from any sender or even domains I type into the kill file. It was mainly for spam, but does not help more for this (because spammers always change their address) but would be useful for this case. So I do not even know that something I did not want to receive was sent to me. I does not help in digest mode, though. Werner on 7 Jan 2001, at 8:26, A Meshar wrote about "Re: Pal Al (was Re: New gadget)": > But the message must be read by your program - at the Plamtop - to > determine that it is from Pal "Spelling Bee" Al or Tamas "Blackhole of > Science" Feher, no? > > It would be indeed a feat of great magic, and value(!), to delete as > soon as the From: header is downloaded. But that seems to be > programmatically a major challenge. I suppose the speed would also > suffer. > > At 1/7/01 -0500, you wrote: > >A Meshar writes: > > > > > Thanks for the help, and mostly the affinity of sentiment... > > > >PNR has a kill function, but I prefer the procmail approach as that way > >I don't even have to download the junk. :) > > > >Ted > > > >-- > >Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP > >public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:21:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit God bless you Bruce! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Martin To: Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:06 PM Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) > > The following editorial was broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a > Canadian television commentator, in the early 1970's. We could all learn > from it even today: > > "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most > generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. > > "Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out > of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and > forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying > even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. > > "When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans > who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the > streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. > > "When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries > in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by > tornadoes. Nobody helped. > > "The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into > discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about > the decadent, warmongering Americans. > > "I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the > erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other > country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the > Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas 10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why > do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? > > "Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on > the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You > talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about > American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several > times - and safely home again. > > "You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store > window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued > and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they > are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at > home to spend here. > > "When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through > age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad > and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. > Both are still broke. > > "I can name you 500 times when the Americans raced to the help of other > people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced > to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even > during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, > and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. > > "They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, > they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over > their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those." > > Now can we get back on topic? > > Bruce in Toronto > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:19:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Thomas Rundel Subject: Re: New gadget MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi, that's just kiddie talk. Wait a few years and it'll probably go away by itself. ;-) Tom www.rundel.net/palmtop A Meshar writes: > Ken, > > He needs a head adjustment. Two years ago he promised to use normal > english, but his word is no good, just like his spelling. Waste. > > At 1/5/01 -0500, you wrote: > >hobchi wrote: > > > > > Reread this note for this reply. > > > it wuz a KAMERA. > > > >Anyone have a spell checker for the 200lx????? This guy desperately > >needs one........ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:35:24 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: Memory for Excel 2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii William wrote: >I think all you need to do is to use an expanded mamory manager I hereby offer my services to handle any expanded mammaries which require management ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:37:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "thomas e. nemeth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "thomas e. nemeth" Subject: himem.sys, emm386.exe, and ramdrive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Folks, I trust the recent marking of time went well for all..... A buddy of mine has acquired an HP200 and asked me some pretty technical questions that I have to pass on to the List to get some collective knowledge. He has a program he wants to run (name escapes me) and want t= o load HIMEM.SYS EMM386.EXE RAMDRIVE.SYS into the HP200. Now I am not a tech type but I recall there may be some issues with these programs. He said HIMEM.SYS gives him an error msg tha= t it needs 80x86 processor. Can anybody point out some substitutes for the above? He asked me if the= re was substitute for ramdrive. Forgive the lack of details, all responses= are very much appreciated. TIA, tom ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:38:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > Nathalie wrote: > > > America's weakness is that half the voters are below average in > > intelligence, Judging from the clowns we elect in the U.S. I would have to say that alot more than half of the voters in this country are below average. I would have to say that there are very few intelligent voters out there....an intelligent voter would not stand for the bullshit that our political system is spewing out. All of our elected officials (republicans and democrats) are so full of bull that they squish when they walk. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 18:48:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: himem.sys, emm386.exe, and ramdrive Comments: To: "thomas e. nemeth" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Himem.sys will not work, it requires a 286 or greater processer. The 200LX is an 80186. EMM386 requires an 80386 process or better. The 200LX is only an 80186 RAMDRIVE.SYS could work, but would be pointless, the 200LX always runs with a RAM drive all the time. Probably he is trying to get more memory to run something, we would have to know more about what he needs to know how to help. Bryan "thomas e. nemeth" wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I trust the recent marking of time went well for all..... > > A buddy of mine has acquired an HP200 and asked me some pretty technical > questions that I have to pass on to the List to get some collective > knowledge. He has a program he wants to run (name escapes me) and want to > load > > HIMEM.SYS > EMM386.EXE > RAMDRIVE.SYS > > into the HP200. Now I am not a tech type but I recall there may be some > issues with these programs. He said HIMEM.SYS gives him an error msg that > it needs 80x86 processor. > > Can anybody point out some substitutes for the above? He asked me if there > was substitute for ramdrive. Forgive the lack of details, all responses > are very much appreciated. > > TIA, > tom > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 02:18:10 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: 200LX crashes/file corruption MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi again! Longden wrote (>): > There are a bunch of reasons why it can go > bad on you ... usually dealing with reboots > while applications are running, but I usually > don't get those problems, having long since > made my peace with Murphy. Famous last words...? Now you've done it! You are a braver man than me! I don't think it's = possible to make ones peace with Murphy! * Murphy was an optimist! * Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 02:18:21 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Some questions about the Omnibook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! Thanks again for all your input on my search for a DOS palmtop = (subnotebook...?) with low power consumption and greyscale VGA screen. It = looks like I'm going to settle for an Omnibook as the only realistic option = for my particular needs, so I have a few questions... Does anyone know what the maximum supported disk size is for an Omnibook = 425? (I'm thinking of using it with a microdrive.) Can it spin down / up the disk? I only receive about 20 weatherfaxes a day, = so that means 20 files saved and if the drive can be stopped, the power = consumption of the drive may not be that much of an issue. The software = stores the images in display memory and then writes them to file when they = are complete, so what we are looking at is spinning up the drive long = enough to save a 2-300kb file 20 times a day, and then of course spinning = it up again to retreive the files when I come to look at them. What would the power consumption be when just sitting listening to the = RS232 for the next fax to come though? Can the screen be switched off to save power? Would it be possible to slow down the processor speed to save power? I'm = using a HPLX now, so even though high resolution (which is the reason I'm = looking to replace the LX) may need some more processor power, 486 / 25 is = probably overkill. I think it could easily be done on a 286. Does the Omnibook have a parallel printer port, and if it does, has anyone = tried connecting one to a ZIP-drive? (I wouldn''t be using a ZIP-drive when = listening for weatherfaxes, but it might be useful for backups etc. I would also like to know if the Omnibooks have any particular mechanical = weaknesses I should look out for. Another question is whether it would be possible to make it switch on and = off automatically. The weatherfaxes I'm interested in are transmitted = between 04:30 and 10:00 UTC, so if it could boot and start the weatherfax = software or just wake up at 04:20 and go to sleep or somehow close the = software (send "Esc, Q") and switch off at 10:00 that would save quite a = bit of power. The most important and probably easiest to implement is the = switching on, as I'm probably awake and interested in looking at the = weatherfaxes by 10:00 and can switch it off manually when I've looked at = them. Thanks again! Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 02:18:48 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! Michel Bel wrote (>): > Maybe a Quaderno? > If everything goes right, I should own 2.9 > Quaderno's in about a week. ( 2 whole, one in > parts). They have the ATT type screen - 640*400 > -, boot from ROM, etc. Might one of those be any > use? Thanks for the offer, but I don't think the weatherfax software supports = the ATT screen, so it would probably just use CGA resolution like it does = on the HP200LX. So far it looks like the only realistic option is an = Omnibook. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 17:40:28 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: New gadget Comments: To: rundel-d@RUNDEL-D.COM In-Reply-To: <200101082319.SAA22182@sphmraaa.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Tom, Maybe it'll go away, maybe get worse! Meanwhile, I am weeding this stuff out with a filter. At 1/8/01 -0500, you wrote: >Avi, > >that's just kiddie talk. Wait a few years and it'll probably >go away by itself. ;-) > >Tom >www.rundel.net/palmtop > > > A Meshar writes: > > Ken, > > > > He needs a head adjustment. Two years ago he promised to use normal > > english, but his word is no good, just like his spelling. Waste. > > > > At 1/5/01 -0500, you wrote: > > >hobchi wrote: > > > > > > > Reread this note for this reply. > > > > it wuz a KAMERA. > > > > > >Anyone have a spell checker for the 200lx????? This guy desperately > > >needs one........ > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:20:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B5AF09D1BC4006E2CBDCE378" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B5AF09D1BC4006E2CBDCE378 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would have said the same thing, but I was trying to be positive! ;-) KenLondon wrote: > Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > > > Nathalie wrote: > > > > > America's weakness is that half the voters are below average in > > > intelligence, > > Judging from the clowns we elect in the U.S. I would have to say that alot > more than half of the voters in this country are below average. I would > have to say that there are very few intelligent voters out there....an > intelligent voter would not stand for the bullshit that our political system > is spewing out. All of our elected officials (republicans and democrats) > are so full of bull that they squish when they walk. --------------B5AF09D1BC4006E2CBDCE378 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="seronac.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard and Patti Smith Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="seronac.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://seronac.freeservers.com/ adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:seronac@freeport.com fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------B5AF09D1BC4006E2CBDCE378-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:38:01 -0500 Reply-To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Subject: Re: Which site is the reference to?? Comments: To: Neill Currie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neil, www.digitalpaths.com HTH, Cliff Crittenden -- On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 09:55:40 Neill Currie wrote: >Hi >I was searching deja.com and came upon this (partial) quote, by William >E. Blankenship. Anyone know the actual site referred to? > ><<selection or those DHTML sites that are nothing but graphics, forget it, >The 200LX HV browser that I use just won't keep up. There is a site that >can be logged to that will >translate sites to just text so even this is not a problem. >>> > >Thanks > >Neill Currie >13 Bancroft St >Portland >Me 04102, USA Tel: 207-842-5901 (East Coast Timezone) > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 02:39:09 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: LX to internet by wireless... Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I have used a Montana 33.6 modem with the analog Motorola flip phones > with Win95. And I used the battery powered Motorola 9600 baud modem "pocket modem" and its cable with my analog Motorola flip phone. Worked fine. A few of us bought those modems from a guy who got a number of them when Motorola stopped making them. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 02:39:21 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: 200LX crashes/file corruption Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I've posted before about problems with my 1MB/upgraded to 5MB, > single-speed 200LX. Each time I've been hopeful that the measures > taken would eliminate the problems, but they keep coming back. It really does sound as if you have some problem. Might be the memory chips, the way you open/close files or something else. Do you use memory cards? Which type? ac adapter? odd work environment? > weeks. I got the 200LX thinking it would be a pretty much > 'bulletproof' machine which would be very reliable, but I've been > disappointed. It is a pretty bulletproof machine. I have tested and beta tested a whole lot of programs on the hp. I've locked it up and needed the hard reset as well as the normal ctrl-alt-del and have not lost any files that were not related to the beta. No other files were blown away. I beta-ed Buddy, Post, Accis lxbatch and others and have had no serious data loses which again leads me to suspect that something is wrong with your particular unit for some reason. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 02:39:23 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Now can we get back on topic? Bruce in Toronto Eh! (g) Oh, thanks for the post. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:30:11 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Smartmedia in 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DB713C265A341BA609CC3D02" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DB713C265A341BA609CC3D02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all; Since there are Smartmedia (a.k.a. 'multimedia') to PCMCIA Type II adapters, does anyone know if there are any problems with using Smartmedia cards via the adapters in the 200LX? FYI: I had a problem with a compact flash card and adapter in that it would take a full minute for it to 'wake up' upon first use after an extended period of idleness, which was unacceptable. Although, once it 'woke up', it was plenty fast. Thanks in advance. Richard --------------DB713C265A341BA609CC3D02 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="seronac.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard and Patti Smith Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="seronac.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://seronac.freeservers.com/ adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:seronac@freeport.com fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------DB713C265A341BA609CC3D02-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:37:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: WTB: Omnibook 3xx/4xx Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > They all use the same NiCad battery pack (about $60) which can be > substituted with 2 AAs in a pinch. > Better make that "4 AAs in a pinch" ;-) The only other thing I would add is the keyboards on old Omnibooks are sometimes problematic. Even at their best they are not as nice as the keyboard on the Compaq Aero. I have an Omnibook 430 which works great except that the keys on the keyboard stick to the point of making the unit frustratingly unusable. I've heard of others having this problem. Someone suggested lubricating the keys with silicone lubricant, but so far I've resisted doing this. I pulled a couple keys off looking for signs of an old coffee or soft drink spill but could find no evidence. The keyboard on my 425 works okay (so far) and does not have this problem. If you buy a used Omnibook make sure the keys are not sticky. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:55:54 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Compaq Aero MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 08:59:10 -0600 From: Evan Person Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? > 1. I originally had two batteries with my Aero, the original one > and a second one I purchased. They both didn't last very long > before they didn't hold a charge any longer and are quite > expensive (I paid around $125 for the second battery - I > don't know what they sell for now). Since then I only use the > Aero on AC. Without a working battery the Aero doesn't have > the "instant on" feature, so I lost that at this time. I get batteries from A2Z on the web. (www.a2z.com). The first one lasted 3 or 4 years. I'm not sure. It's replacement is still working fine. I also bought one for the recently purchased Aero, maybe 6 months or a year ago. It's also working fine. In both cases I got the enhanced battery, which fits in the same slot as the regular battery. The batteries sold by A2Z are a few hundred mAh stronger than the Compaq brand enhanced ones and cost $85. I've used their batteries on other laptops (I have a small collection of old 386 and 486 laptops.) They all hold up real well. > 2. Several years ago it developed the dreaded "broken right > screen hinge" problem, fairly common with Aeros > from what I've heard. There is something Compaq sells > called an "upgraded clutch kit" which is a stronger right > hinge piece that has so far fixed that problem. I took the > Aero apart and managed to fix it myself. There are instructions > with pictures somewhere on the web. That modification was free from Compaq and it was already installed on both of mine. That's commonly the case. > 3. About 3 weeks ago the 84MB hard drive died. I found a used > 250MB hard drive that works, which I am using now. I had to > take the Aero apart again, including removing the keyboard, to > replace the hard drive. Not a trivial job. Took me about 3 hours > to do this. I had to download a SoftPaq from Compaq's website > to set up the hard drive. There is a special 4MB partition at the > beginning of the hard drive (the SoftPaq says 2MB but that wasn't > big enough) you have to set up. I had to do this with a Linux boot > disk using Linux fdisk (DOS fdisk wouldn't do it correctly). I agree. Taking the Aero apart isn't too bad once you know how but it isn't obvious how to do it and the first couple of times were a serious pain. Putting it back together is about as bad. But once you know how it fits together, it's not quite as bad. It never really gets easy though. As for the Compaq setup partition, that's needed if you want to be able to run setup without a floppy. If you're on the road and don't have the floppy drive with you, that can be nice. But if you don't mind using a floppy for setup, you can skip the setup partition. And some of the setup still works anyway. It's in software. > 4. Shortly after I replaced the hard drive the CMOS battery > died. I think it's a CR2016 or CR2032. I saw it on the motherboard > when I replaced the hard drive but I didn't pay much attention to it. > Now it won't boot from the hard drive at all but will boot from the > PCMCIA floppy. So now I have to take the Aero all apart again > to replace the CMOS battery. I've missed that one so far :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 05:26:28 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >PS Perhaps our wonderful female doctor could give the facts here? trying to get me out of hiding, he? ok, since it is part of my duty to save lives (as it is for Jeff to save America, and god to save the Queen) i'll explain about electricity: Russell: >Tamas I believe as little as 30 Volts can kill an adult with sufficient >amperage. I for one respect electricity immensely. 110 Volts is more than >enough to kill. have you ever tried to test the HP 12V adapter if it has "juice" with your toung? It won't kill you, but give a tickle. I would not recommend it above 12V. It might burn. Truck batteries usually have 24V and wires are not insulated. To my knowledge anything below 80V can't kill "instantly". I have seen electricians here in France who "test" their 220V wires for "liveness" with a quick touch of their fingers, making sure they wear non-conductive boots and are not touching anything conductive, like metal pipes at the same time. Many electricians report to get jolted frequently by 360V during work. They usually have a quick reflex to isolate their body parts from the source. 360V usually leaves a burn stain, but rarely kills. Only one time I had to accompany the ambulance to a constuction site where an inexperienced Arab illegal worker had been electrocuted due to his faulty electric drill causing the current to flow through his neck which he had used to push on a water pipe for strength to drill. weired but true story: while i was walking in a park in San Francisco i met a man with two metal rods and wires from them plugged into the public toilet 110V power outlet. Asking what he did there he said he was catching worms for fishing by sticking the rods in the ground at 3-foot distance. The worms didn't like it and fled to the surface for him to be picked up. I wonder if the distance had something to do with the fuse not going off. Any electician here to explain why the live wire did not rip the fuse when stuck in the ground? Not wet enough? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 00:13:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: LokTite, Anyone? watch out for some plastic damage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris I used LocTite on some ABS (?) mirrors on my pickup and the blue locktite rotted the plastic. I would try a drop on the case to see if it softens the plastic and use as little as you can -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question >Subject: LokTite, Anyone? > Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 14:10:16 -0600 > From: Chris Lott >Well, after the fact, I'm gonna ask if anyone ever used a dab of LokTite >on their HPÝ12¨00LX screws. I had a screw that had worked loose, and in >a fit of overkill I removed each corner screw one at a time, and re- >installed each with a dab of LokTite thread sealing compound. With my >luck I have permanently sealed my unit, never to be opened up again. >Seriously, this stuff isn't *that* permanent, and we use it all the time >for this very reason. Anyone ever tried it on their units? Any pros/ >cons? > >-Chris Lott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 00:18:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: FS: WIN 3.1 on 5.25" disks $7 plus postage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While cleaning up I discovered a set of 7 5.25" disks labelled Windows version 3.1. I know that some people like to run 3.1 on the palmtop (though I have no idea why). I think I saved these so I could have the same OS as my Omnibook without really thinking why. Send me $7 plus postage and they could be yours.. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 00:24:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: FS: WIN 3.1 on 5.25" disks $7 plus postage Comments: To: Andrew King MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew King wrote: > While cleaning up I discovered a set of 7 5.25" disks labelled Windows > version 3.1. I know that some people like to run 3.1 on the palmtop > (though I have no idea why). Correct me if I'm, wrong, but won't 3.1 only run on the 200lx in proteted mode thereby making it useless? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 23:56:45 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Anthony Ettipio Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Anthony Ettipio Subject: InfoSelect: Neatly Exporting Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20010109023915.ZYXT28450.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody have a clue on how to export the *.wd files in a neat, organized text file(s) for import into a wordprocesssor - without having all the info packed so tightly? Exporting with breaks for each window would be great! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 22:23:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: WTB: Omnibook 3xx/4xx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Who was looking for an omnibook 300? Please email me privetely. Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Person" To: Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 7:37 PM Subject: Re: WTB: Omnibook 3xx/4xx > Longden Loo wrote: > > > They all use the same NiCad battery pack (about $60) which can be > > substituted with 2 AAs in a pinch. > > > > Better make that "4 AAs in a pinch" ;-) > > The only other thing I would add is the keyboards on old Omnibooks are > sometimes problematic. Even at their best they are not as nice as the > keyboard on the Compaq Aero. I have an Omnibook 430 which works > great except that the keys on the keyboard stick to the point of making > the unit frustratingly unusable. I've heard of others having this problem. > Someone suggested lubricating the keys with silicone lubricant, but so > far I've resisted doing this. I pulled a couple keys off looking for signs > of an old coffee or soft drink spill but could find no evidence. The > keyboard on my 425 works okay (so far) and does not have this > problem. If you buy a used Omnibook make sure the keys are not > sticky. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:09:49 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Fluff: Electrifying stories... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nat, > weired but true story: while i was walking in a park in San Francisco i met > a man with two metal rods and wires from them plugged into the public toilet > 110V power outlet. Asking what he did there he said he was catching worms > for fishing by sticking the rods in the ground at 3-foot distance. The worms > didn't like it and fled to the surface for him to be picked up. I wonder if > the distance had something to do with the fuse not going off. Any electician > here to explain why the live wire did not rip the fuse when stuck in the > ground? Not wet enough? This was a good one! I seem to remember reading something like this before, in an electronics magazine concerning a ham VLF transmitter. But reading your story I wondered why the man had two metal rods? Was he recharging something? :-) In Norway (220 V) we sometimes cook sausages by connecting a nail to each wire and sticking them in on each side, usually in Electro 101. Two close and the fuse goes. Two long and the sausage explodes (happens at parties when folks get hungry!). Two little leaves it cold. Different for each length of sausage, and make too as the salt content can vary. This guy had must probably found out that a meter was about right in that type of soil at that time of year. I would expect he could feel the vibration from the ground in his hands. Shaving outlets are restricted to 1A usually, and have an automatic fuse located next to them. One guy I knew, working as an electrician in the railways, said he saw the ground heave, toss and rip when the line current found a better way to travel once. Quite possible, at 16 2/3 Hz! :-) I had one of these lick-the-fingers-and-touch-to-check teachers. He could actually grip both 220 V wires in each hand; to check properly he had to lick his fingers... A tv repair man said he had on occasion pulled thorns of burnt flesh/scab out of his elbows whenever he got zapped by the tripler (~25-28 kV DC). The thorns went perpendicular to the bone into the muscle. This one I don't believe. And in the 70s the standard way of testing the radar on a DC-9 aeroplane in SAS here in Norway was to take a flourescent light tube and pass it in front. If it lighted up; OK. :-) So the old electricians told me, I started in 85ish and they had abolished that practice. I also heard that electricians in the military fried sausages placed on a plate 20 m in front of a fighter. This would have been an F-5 or F-104 I guess. Personally my record is 1000 V DC /max 5 mA from a test generator across two fingers on the same hand. Across different hands I might not be here; I got two burn marks. Also the impedance is relatively high so the effective voltage would have been much lower. And while in SAS I saw a guy get electrocuted from both hands to his feet, 115 V 400 Hz. This was great fun for all! Why? Cause when he pulled loose he doubled up holding his groin moaning... :-) Just a little bit of electrician's tales in a slack period of work... br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 08:07:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: FS: WIN 3.1 on 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit KenLondon wrote: > > Andrew King wrote: > > > While cleaning up I discovered a set of 7 5.25" disks labelled Windows > > version 3.1. I know that some people like to run 3.1 on the palmtop > > (though I have no idea why). > > Correct me if I'm, wrong, but won't 3.1 only run on the 200lx in proteted > mode thereby making it useless? You might be right, I didn't follow the 200LX/WIN3.1 thread that closely. To my mind one of the chief advantages of the 200LX is the fact that the OS is in ROM and therefore more trouble free. I even use the built-in PIM programs rather than more powerful options mostly because I can reset the palmtop and they'll be there -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:28:06 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: Fluff: Electrifying stories... In-Reply-To: <017601c07a24$c610b950$1401a8c0@srs.as> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Some good reminders here in the stories that electricity has a greater effect if it is travelling accross your body rather than from one finger to another in the same hand. Lengthwise is not quite so bad as accross. How do I know this - I am a physiotherapist and it is standard training for us concerning the use of DC to retrain damaged nerve/muscle combinations (radial nerve palsy after broken upper arm is an example). It is somewhat worse for people with heart conditions, and pacemakers are obviously more sensitive (not allowed within 3m of some treatment machines. I have personally taken 240V AC via a power modulator many years ago - do not know what the amperage was but it was modulated mains power so the amperage should have been the same as mains. Can't say I'd volunteer for it again. Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 06:44:12 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: WTB: Omnibook 3xx/4xx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << > They all use the same NiCad battery pack (about $60) which can be > substituted with 2 AAs in a pinch. > Better make that "4 AAs in a pinch" ;-) >> I stand corrected. A hazard of posting on both the LX and OB lists at the same time. Also, you have to remember not to plug in the AC while running off AAs or the charging circuitry goes south (or so I've heard). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:43:52 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, On 9 Jan 2001, at 5:26, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > not going off. Any electician here to explain why the live wire did not > rip the fuse when stuck in the ground? Not wet enough? I am not an electrician, but I know that the fuse goes when the current exceeds its specifications. The current depends on the resistance between the two leads - so humidity plays a role, also distance and what kind of material the ground is. There is another security mechanism in my country (and all Europe I suppose), though, and it is called FI. We have 3 leads in our electric equipment: phase, nul, ground. The FI is a sensor that switches off all power lines in the house when it senses a current to ground as low as 30 mA. A normal fuse burns at 10 or even more Ampere. Your patient obviously did not use a properly installed drill....so he got the full 16 A used for these machines. Werner Thought for the day: Dictatorship (n): a form of government under which everything which is not prohibited is compulsory. -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:24:49 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Fluff: Electrifying stories... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > is standard training for us concerning the use of DC to retrain > damaged nerve/muscle combinations (radial nerve palsy after But you use pads with a gel, don't you? That reduces the resistance by a few decades. What are the volts/milliamps? 2-3-4 volts and a few mA? Isn't that enough to make one's muscles jump? :-) Isn't this about the specs of these wonder slim-while-you-watch-tv pads? :-) Any ladies about to tell us the facts? > I have personally taken 240V AC via a power modulator many > years ago - do not know what the amperage was but it was > modulated mains power so the amperage should have been the > same as mains. Can't say I'd volunteer for it again. Nope, it is very difficult to work out the amps, it varies greatly according to touch pressure and will decrease over time as the path heats up. :-) Also the outer skin barrier fails and decreases resistance as cells rupture. Then they cook dry and increase resistance. :-\ Basically one never takes more than a couple of mA up to 20 mA and live to tell about it. One can get a feeling for this by taking a multimeter (one than measures volts, amps and ohms) and set it to omhs/resistance. Set it to show K ohms and grip the needles as well as you can. If it shows no change or zero change the divider. Take the reading (in K ohms) and divide the volts with it. Like 115 V divided by 500 (k ohm) which will give 0,23 which will be 0,23 mA. Which is on the lower end of what you will get if you try. Try wetting your fingers with a saturated salt water solution (lick your fingers and dip them in the salt pot, shake of the excess and moisten again) and see the k ohms decrease. Means the mA increase, about 30 mA across the heart and it usually stops. But a good thump to the chest might get it going again, so it is well worth a try and maybe broken ribs! I always show kids this, with my Truth-O-Meter and ask them if they have a sweetheart... :-) With a oscilloscope hooked up to my mom's plants I got her to believe they had feelings... Which they seem to have, which will make all the vegetarians the worlds greatest mob of slaughters'... :-) br Franklin (full of it now!) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:51:56 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: LanWatch Question, Simple Comments: To: david@hplx.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David: I finally have an authorized project where I'll be buying an ethernet analyzer, such as Lanwatch. I have been in touch with Precision Guesswork, and they can still get me a copy of their PocketWatch software, as they call the one that runs on the HP. They are however no longer selling it. My question is this... from your experience with the program, can you let me know if there is any difference between the version they sold to run on the HP, and the one sold simply as a DOS version (which they still offer, BTW). I would like to have a real copy of the HP version, but we may well have a need for an ordinary DOS version as well. Perhaps they are really the same, or maybe the HP version will run on a plain DOS computer. Any insight you may have will be appreciated. Thanks, -Chris Lott cc: HPLX List -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:05:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dennis Bell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Bell Subject: Re: LX to internet by wireless... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to all for some useful information. I have a couple of questions. Is it fair to say that you can use any phone to connect to the internet, as long as it has a phone jack? Then you just connect it to your modem, just as if you were plugging into the phone jack in the wall.... Do all phones have such a jack? Is the jack standardized? (I bet each brand has their own configuration.) Is there a place like www.phonecables.com that sells cables for all phones? Dennis ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:39:34 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: 200LX crashes/file corruption MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Mark, on 8 Jan 2001, at 9:52, Mark Shields wrote about "200LX crashes/file corruption": > > Recent problems have seemed to stem from the cold weather we've > been having, and if I leave my briefcase in a place where the > 200LX will get cold for awhile (40 degrees or so), then I will > get corrupted files and filenames. > this reminds me of my old 486 Laptop. I installed extra RAM and from that moment it took about 10 minutes to heat up a little, until I could run windows. If i started earlier, it would crash after the first program loaded. It is strictly related to the extra RAM installed and temperature. Maybe your RAM has a related problem... Just a guess. Isn't there a program to check the LX's RAM? Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:48:50 -700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Constant Brouerius van Nidek Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Constant Brouerius van Nidek Subject: Re: Smartmedia MIME-Version: 1.0 If I am on the road, I use a smartmedia wit adapter to load the jpeg file fr om my camera on my 48 Mb Simple compact flash card (with adapter ;-)) I have to use the C drive of course but furthermore, it is as fast as you can wish. At least on my 2Mb single speed HPLX200. I am happy with the extra storage On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 20:30:11 -0700 Richard said: Hello all; fu>Since there are Smartmedia (a.k.a. 'multimedia') to PCMCIA Type II fu>adapters, does anyone know if there are any problems with using fu>Smartmedia cards via the adapters in the 200LX? fu>FYI: I had a problem with a compact flash card and adapter in that fu>it would take a full minute for it to 'wake up' upon first use fu>after an extended period of idleness, which was unacceptable. fu>Although, once it 'woke up', it was plenty fast. fu>Thanks in advance. fu>Richard "My dog is worried about the economy because Alpo is up to 99 cents a can. That's almost $7.00 in dog money." -- Joe Weinstein. Net-Tamer V 1.12 Beta - Registered > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:02:05 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: WTB: Omnibook 3xx/4xx Comments: To: Evan Person MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Evan, I went to a Scuba shop and got some silicon type grease that they use on O-rings. Take a small amount on the end of a round toothpick, pop up the key top and apply just a little all around the inside of the little rubber bushing. Put the key top back. The keys on my 425 almost all got better. If it is mushy than you got too much grease in there, pop the key top again and remove any excess. After a couple of key you will get the hang of it. =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:26:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: LX to internet by wireless... In-Reply-To: <384147762.979056342339.JavaMail.root@web585-ec.mail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Dennis Bell wrote: > I have a couple of questions. Is it fair to say > that you can use any phone to connect to the internet, > as long as it has a phone jack? No, there are some phones that will not work, for example those on a PBX system. I've read that some phone lines (digital? PBX?) carry voltages sufficient to damage modems. I've never been particularly careful with the Megahertz XJ2144 modems I use, and have not had any of them damaged. Either they are pretty robust, or I'm lucky. If you are in a building that has it's own phone system, you can sometimes be successful by "borrowing" the line a fax machine is on. Phones outside the USA often use different connectors. Airport pay phones are starting to have RJ-11 ports built in, but there are still airports with very few (or none) of them. In those situations I'm especially happy to be able to link my 200LX to my StarTAC and grab my e-mail. Some people suggest carrying a cable terminated in alligator clips, and using needles to access difficult phone lines. Such measures are more than I care to take, but I rarely travel outside the US. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:52:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:01:43 +0100, "Owen H. Morgan" wrote: > I've looked at the website for the IBM PC110 and have > decided that it is probably too powerhungry for my needs, > and I think the same would apply to the Compaq Aero > that has been mentioned. Would it be possible to use your LX as the always on receiver and then transfer the data to a more power hungry laptop with VGA for viewing? But - I assume that an OB 300 to 530 might do almost as well regarding power consumption as the LX if you replace the rotating hard drive of the OB with a flash card. I have made this boot drive swap on my OB 530 and it really reduces power consumption. I also assume that the lower number OBs have lower power consumption than the higher number OBs due to the fact that they have lower power processors. Vic Roberts Who sails an O'Day Javelin in upstate NY, but not this season of the year ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:52:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! Comments: To: m_berrier@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 12:17:58 +0100, Michael Berrier wrote: > I found a promising project management program from Parcell Softarwe, Geneva > IL, USA. After installing on the LX I was not able to get it running. The > system shows " not enough memory " > > The doc file says as requirements : 512k, hard disc and DOS 3.3 How are you getting to DOS? You will need to exit from System Manager to get anything like 512K. Also, as has been stated, if you have too many TSRs loaded, you may not have 512K left. When you are in DOS, type "mem" (without the quotes) and you will see the largest executable program size. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:12:39 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi, There is a European company called Airbus which makes airplanes as big as the ones you were talking about. Many european airlines use this airplanes. In fact they will soon be building the biggest plane in the world. Unfortunately you didn't know this company existed, this is the case when we europeans say that American people are ignorant. You think that the U.S. must be the best in everything, but that is not true. The U.S. is world leader in many fields, but NOT in ALL fields. I like the U.S., I have been there twice and I have studied at an American School in Spain, but remember you are not the best in everything, and there are also interesting things and people all over the world. Inigo in Spain _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 12:37:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe that the item in question originated in the early 1970s, based on the referenced to "The War". Was Airbus in operation then? Bryan "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" wrote: > > Hi, > > There is a European company called Airbus which makes airplanes as big as > the ones you were talking about. Many european airlines use this airplanes. > In fact they will soon be building the biggest plane in the world. > Unfortunately you didn't know this company existed, this is the case when we > europeans say that American people are ignorant. You think that the U.S. > must be the best in everything, but that is not true. The U.S. is world > leader in many fields, but NOT in ALL fields. I like the U.S., I have been > there twice and I have studied at an American School in Spain, but remember > you are not the best in everything, and there are also interesting things > and people all over the world. > > Inigo in Spain > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:38:17 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << There is a European company called Airbus which makes airplanes as big as the ones you were talking about. Many european airlines use this airplanes. In fact they will soon be building the biggest plane in the world. Unfortunately you didn't know this company existed >> He was quoting from a 1970's article, probably before Airbus became as prominent as they are now. << there are also interesting things and people all over the world. >> And can we leave this thread on that positive note? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:31:45 -0500 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastbusiness.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you RE-READ the other message, it clearly states the piece was written in the 1970's. i didn't think there was an Airbus then. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:13 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Hi, There is a European company called Airbus which makes airplanes as big as the ones you were talking about. Many european airlines use this airplanes. In fact they will soon be building the biggest plane in the world. Unfortunately you didn't know this company existed, this is the case when we europeans say that American people are ignorant. You think that the U.S. must be the best in everything, but that is not true. The U.S. is world leader in many fields, but NOT in ALL fields. I like the U.S., I have been there twice and I have studied at an American School in Spain, but remember you are not the best in everything, and there are also interesting things and people all over the world. Inigo in Spain _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:45:13 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << I believe that the item in question originated in the early 1970s, based on the referenced to "The War". Was Airbus in operation then? >> They launched the A300 jetliner at the 1969 Paris air show. Work began on the first aircraft in 1971. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:48:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that the article he posted was an old one from a time before Airbus existed. I do agreee with you that the American culture is somewhat egocentric. All you have to do is watch a little BBC and CNN. You'll notice that there is a real slant in how and which stories are told. It's not as true as it used to be, tho. They still buy french perfume even thou they call it 'toilet water'. And what about those damned pokemon's? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 1:12 PM Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) > Hi, > > There is a European company called Airbus which makes airplanes as big as > the ones you were talking about. Many european airlines use this airplanes. > In fact they will soon be building the biggest plane in the world. > Unfortunately you didn't know this company existed, this is the case when we > europeans say that American people are ignorant. You think that the U.S. > must be the best in everything, but that is not true. The U.S. is world > leader in many fields, but NOT in ALL fields. I like the U.S., I have been > there twice and I have studied at an American School in Spain, but remember > you are not the best in everything, and there are also interesting things > and people all over the world. > > > > Inigo in Spain > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:26:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: 200LX crashes/file corruption Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable k wrote: > I've posted before about problems with my 1MB/upgraded to 5MB, > single-speed 200LX. Each time I've been hopeful that the measures > taken would eliminate the problems, but they keep coming back. > > as needed. I also have renamed some of the files on the C: drive > with nonsense names so that they just don't get used, thinking > that perhaps that area of memory has problems so I'll just avoid > it. I then put a copy of the file I'm using back on another part > of the C: drive. The backup battery is O.K. currently--I replaced > it just to be sure-it didn't really need it. I cycle two sets of > Kodak NiMH batteries, one set per week while the other is > recharging. But the files on your A: drive,I take it they don't corrupt? Sometime my PLUS program corrupt files,but they have always been related to crosslinking. Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:48:14 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota wrote: > There is a European company called Airbus which makes airplanes as big as > the ones you were talking about. Many european airlines use this airplanes. > In fact they will soon be building the biggest plane in the world. > Unfortunately you didn't know this company existed, this is the case when we > europeans say that American people are ignorant. You think that the U.S. > must be the best in everything, but that is not true. The U.S. is world > leader in many fields, but NOT in ALL fields. I like the U.S., I have been > there twice and I have studied at an American School in Spain, but remember > you are not the best in everything, and there are also interesting things > and people all over the world. Doesn't Airbus have a terrible safety record as compared to Boeing and other major manufacturers? Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:51:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The article quoted was from the 70s! I don't believe Airbus was in existence then(?) . BA and Air France were designing/building the ill-fated Concorde.. Still, it takes multiple countries to do this. The USa has two or three, and had more in the 70s. At 1/9/01 +0000, you wrote: >Hi, > >There is a European company called Airbus which makes airplanes as big as >the ones you were talking about. Many european airlines use this airplanes. >In fact they will soon be building the biggest plane in the world. >Unfortunately you didn't know this company existed, this is the case when we >europeans say that American people are ignorant. You think that the U.S. >must be the best in everything, but that is not true. The U.S. is world >leader in many fields, but NOT in ALL fields. I like the U.S., I have been >there twice and I have studied at an American School in Spain, but remember >you are not the best in everything, and there are also interesting things >and people all over the world. > > > >Inigo in Spain > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:03:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: FLUFF Airbus (wasRe: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that they had problems in the beginning because of their 'fly-by-wire' architecture. Part of it was because pilot's where not used to a craft that would try to correct itself. I had a friend that flew them and referred to it as 'die by wire'. A famous crash was the one at a Paris airshow where one of them overshot the runway. Apparently, they've been very successful at solving those problems. Ha! lookee here --> http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/meast/08/23/crash.safety/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) > On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota wrote: > > > There is a European company called Airbus which makes airplanes as big as > > the ones you were talking about. Many european airlines use this airplanes. > > Doesn't Airbus have a terrible safety record as compared to Boeing and > other major manufacturers? > > Jeff ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 15:24:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: infoselect question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just a copy of IS and it looks pretty good. I like the freeform nature of the program. The only thing that bothers me is that file size is limited by memory. I want to store some big databases with emails, etc. and wait IS to be able to search for all. Anyway, the question I have is, Is there an easy way to read multiple ascii files into an IS database? It's a pain to import a file by typing in the name. I'd be happy if it just came up with a dir listing where I could pick the file. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:07:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" While I haven't tried it myself, I have read that one can power a Compaq Contura Aero directly with a 12-17V DC source, skipping the AC adapter. You might also reduce the power consumption by replacing the 2.5 inch hard drive with a flash disk. There's a CompactFlash to IDE adapter (http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/cfa.html), then you'd probably also need an adapter to get the IDE header to match the 2.5 inch drive cable (http://www.iec-usa.com/l1064.html). Plus, of course, you'd need a CF card big enough to hold your O/S and applications. Note that the Aero 4/25 with its monochrome screen is more frugal with power than the Aero 4/33c using its color screen and faster processor. But you can also specify user-controlled power saving measures, such as lower backlight illumination levels, shorter times until the backlight turns off,... >From: Owen H. Morgan Ýmailto:ohmorgan@INAME.COM¨ >Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 2:00 PM >... >Barry mentions the Compaq Contura Aero notebook, but I doubt if that is a good solution, as the >only way of charging it would be from AC, and 8 hours of use isn't much good to me. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:41:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: 200LX crashes/file corruption Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Longden wrote: > Sounds like a problem with the File Allocation Table (FAT). When this problem > occurs again (file contents getting mixed up), try exiting to DOS and running > "chkdsk" on the drive and see if problems are reported. > In fact, you should run that now just to verify the state of the FAT. > There are a bunch of reasons why it can go bad on you ... usually dealing with > reboots while applications are running, but I usually don't get those > problems, > having long since made my peace with Murphy. > - Longden Mark, Longden, If the FAT is being corrupted, you should try CHKDSK of course. But, you can also try reformatting the disk if there is corrupt information in the FAT. And, try using SHARE to prevent programs from corrupting another program's open files. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:48:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi wrote: > The article quoted was from the 70s! I don't believe Airbus was in > existence then(?) . BA and Air France were designing/building the = ill-fated > Concorde.. Still, it takes multiple countries to do this. The USa has = two > or three, and had more in the 70s. > I think Russia has built the biggest airplane ever. Furthermore,how many US is there room for in Russia?:) Three or four?:) Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:48:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Inigo wrote: >> > There is a European company called Airbus which makes airplanes as big = as > the ones you were talking about. Many european airlines use this = airplanes. > In fact they will soon be building the biggest plane in the world. Sweden,the country I come from,has built their own military planes since = the end of ww2. SAAB is the name of the company. SAAB has also built ordinary civil airplanes. This is also the case for many other european countries. As for USA:s spaceproject,wsasn't it the german Werner von Braun who build that up? thanks Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:50:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Golf Solitaire 2.1 now available Comments: To: Curtis Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Since this game is my personal addiction, I've been working at it for far too long - only to crawl up to an average score of 20.3 I've won 45 of 2369 games. I used to think that an average above 20.0 was absolutely impossible, but I'm improving. >From: Curtis Cameron Ýmailto:curtc@AIRMAIL.NET¨ >Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 8:38 PM > >I've just uploaded version 2.1 of Golf Solitaire. This one saves the >state when you exit so you can come back to the same deal, will show >you a histogram of your stats, and has a "progress bar" at the bottom >so you can see if you're behind or ahead in this game. > >And can anyone beat an average score of 20.6? > >The game is available at: >http://members.aol.com/FreeWhl44/lxgames.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:52:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:09:41 +0100, Franklin Eekhout wrote: > Owen, > > >I'm seriously considering taking Andrew King up on his offer to swap an > >Omnibook for my HP. The question is how we're going to do this without > being >charged customs duty and possibly even 24% Norwegian VAT for the > machines >going between Norway and Michigan... > > Good idea for both of you, maybe. Talk to Martin B., Yes still here..lurking :-) > he's on the list and > has imported stuff from the US. Yes and I also bought several portable minidiscplayers from Hong Kong. And also a CF card and a Hplx from Us > If one marks it as a gift it will be exempt > from VAT, I have done this a few times. Yes that is the trick. Mark the packet as a gift. And to be sure put a note inside where you write something like "Happy birthday here is something I do not use..blabla" You should be able to insure the package for the amount you want, but be sure that you do not set a value on the package itself because you will then get norwegian VAT on that amount. Set a insurance value not a giftvalue. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:01:39 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: Lars Hedstroem In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Lars, At 1/9/01 -0500, you wrote: >I think Russia has built the biggest airplane ever. > > >Furthermore,how many US is there room for in Russia?:) > > >Three or four?:) I am sure you have a point there, but I am not sure I understand it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:18:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: LokTite, Anyone? Comments: To: Chris Lott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris, I think of lokTite around the screws on the Palmtop as a scary thing :-> ... I never had the screws work loose, so I am perhaps jaded. Also, I would rather put some glue on the rubber feet to make sure they don't come off (which also never happened to me) and thus lose the screws. It is easier to scrape the rubber off carefully from the well and refashion new rubber feet from an eraser. How "industrially" :-> do you use the machine that scrwes work loose? I am just curious, because I thought I work my machines REALLY hard, as much as 18 hours a day. I nver had a crack until recently (over 30 machines) and never had scrwes work loose, nor lost a rubber footie. I also had one single occasions when the keyboard died, but it turned out to be a temporary thing, and a good air stream "hosed off" the dirt. I had a few keys (especially the space bar) break at the mounting tab. I never had a screen die. On my OB 800 notebook, I managed one time to soak it with a glass of Cabernet. It shorted the memory addon, requiring a new add on memory (courtesy Kingston) but also gave a pleasant fruity smell to the machine :-> ... Am I unusual in that streak of good luck, or is it just that some people have a heavier hand? Very curious. We had a similar thread once about databases: For some people they constantly corrupt, and for others it is an extremely unusual circumstance. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com Chris Lott wrote: > Well, after the fact, I'm gonna ask if anyone ever used a dab of LokTite > on their HPÝ12¨00LX screws. I had a screw that had worked loose, and in > a fit of overkill I removed each corner screw one at a time, and re- > installed each with a dab of LokTite thread sealing compound. With my > luck I have permanently sealed my unit, never to be opened up again. > Seriously, this stuff isn't *that* permanent, and we use it all the time > for this very reason. Anyone ever tried it on their units? Any pros/ > cons? > > -Chris Lott > > -- > > ************************************************************************ > R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com > Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. > 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 > Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 > ************************************************************************ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:18:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: LokTite, Anyone? Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden, Your suggestion about using truckbed liner caused me a big guffaw at first, but while laughing, I realized that it may well be a good solution. The stuff is tougher than a junkyard dog and may just do the trick. And I thought about the problem of sealing the battery compartment. Here is what I thought is possible: Open the compartment and place a thin sheet of tissue (a single ply of napkin that I experimented with worked!) over the compartment, then close the lid. Fold the paper over the lid to cover it completely. Spray the truckbed liner. Pry open the lid, and remove the tissue, may require scraping the sides a little with a sharp blade. Do you think this would work? :-> ... Avi Longden Loo wrote: > PS I still think spray-on truckbed liner would be the better fix for broken > hinges, lost screws and a nice form-fitting cover ... now if only I can figure > out how to change the batteries! > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:20:28 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: 200LX crashes/file corruption Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Have you tried NOT using some of your non-builtin programs? For example switch to a different editor to see if not-using DVED will make the programs go away. (I don't have any corruption problems with T.EXE the Tiny editor.) You might have a hardware problem or you might have a conflict between program(s) and the slightly unusual HPLX Dos environment. Cheers... Russ Mark Shields wrote: > I've posted before about problems with my 1MB/upgraded to 5MB, > single-speed 200LX. Each time I've been hopeful that the measures > taken would eliminate the problems, but they keep coming back. > > Recent problems have seemed to stem from the cold weather we've > been having, and if I leave my briefcase in a place where the > 200LX will get cold for awhile (40 degrees or so), then I will > get corrupted files and filenames. > > I don't do anything exotic with it--I just have a bunch of text > files that I use to hold information, editing them with Memo > and with an editor program called DVED. I like DVED because it's > much faster than Memo, and if I have one file open in DVED I can > open another in Memo at the same time. (I'd like to try Quicken, > but I'm not about to trust my finances to it when it's like this.) > > Weird things also happen, like a file named 'SA' having its > contents changed so that it has the middle part of a file named > 'M' instead of what it is supposed to have. Certain things refuse to work > from time to time, including, currently, the picture I had > been using in place of the topcard--it refuses to display, and I've > tried all my backup files--none of them will work. > > I've tried everything, including leaving all the batteries out > overnight. I routinely reboot using Ctrl-Alt-Del and Ctrl-Shift-On, > as needed. I also have renamed some of the files on the C: drive > with nonsense names so that they just don't get used, thinking > that perhaps that area of memory has problems so I'll just avoid > it. I then put a copy of the file I'm using back on another part > of the C: drive. The backup battery is O.K. currently--I replaced > it just to be sure-it didn't really need it. I cycle two sets of > Kodak NiMH batteries, one set per week while the other is > recharging. > > I've gotten by with these procedures, and restoring files from > backups on PCMCIA cards and the hard drive of my desktop, but it's > getting old. > > Everything I've tried has helped, but not much longer now than two > weeks. I got the 200LX thinking it would be a pretty much > 'bulletproof' machine which would be very reliable, but I've been > disappointed. > > I'm to the place where it looks like I'll just have to send it to > Thaddeus and pay the price, hoping it will be O.K. after that. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:20:32 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: LokTite, Anyone? Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden Loo wrote: > I've never used LokTite on anything, tho I've heard that you can release it by > heating it a bit (maybe with a warm screwdriver tip?) ... but don't take the > word of a non-hardware person on that, nor blame me for melting down your case. There are different grades of Loktite. Some are easy to remove, others are almost permanent. Use the easy to remove stuff (blue Loktite?) because all you're trying to do is stop the screws from backing out due to vibration and flexing in normal use. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:20:34 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bruce Martin wrote: > The following editorial was broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a ... Nice post, thanks! I'm saving a copy to share with others. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:34:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian McIlvaine Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: FS: One copy of WordPerfect's "Works" software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Software includes original disks, documentation, and certificate of authenticity. Worls consists of a word processor (LetterPerfect - includes spell checker, think it has thesaurus), Spreadsheet, Graphics program, and communications software (old BBS type - not sure it would be of much use now). Works well on HPLX's. First $25 takes it (shipping to US included). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 14:42:29 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Rubberized LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << Your suggestion about using truckbed liner caused me a big guffaw at first, but while laughing, I realized that it may well be a good solution. The stuff is tougher than a junkyard dog and may just do the trick. And I thought about the problem of sealing the battery compartment. Here is what I thought is possible: Open the compartment and place a thin sheet of tissue (a single ply of napkin that I experimented with worked!) over the compartment, then close the lid. Fold the paper over the lid to cover it completely. Spray the truckbed liner. Pry open the lid, and remove the tissue, may require scraping the sides a little with a sharp blade. Do you think this would work? :-> ... >> Avi, if I had liner spray and some dead LXs to spare, I'd be crazy enough to try your solution for my suggestion. Goes to show how far gone we all are . OTOH, seems like it'd beat a "wetsuit" hands-down. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:45:58 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi, The U.S. has helped other countries in recent years because right now it is the richest country in the world. But it hasn't always been so. If it wasn't thanks to Spain, France and Germany(At that time Prusia) the United Staes would have never been able to defeat the British and become and independent country. At that time Spain had a large empire including Cuba. In 1898 the United States destroyed the Spanish Navy in Cuba and forced Spain to give up the island (You didn't give us any money by the way). The U.S. may have helped many countries, but it has also been helped by many others (It has also hurt some countries, Cuba right now, and it has been hurt by other countries, Japan in WW II). Inigo >From: sponsor@ftel.net >To: "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" >Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) >Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 13:56:30 -0800 > >I think the main idea was to point out that many people all over the world >beat up on the USA, but have ZERO shame taking money, help, and everything >else offered by this country. > >At 1/9/01 +0000, you wrote: > >>The Concorde was designed by french engineers and built in France by a >>french company.(Fastest passenger plane, and with only one accident) >>O.K. I must admit I skimmed through the e-mail and I didn't notice it was >>a quote somebody said in the 70's. But If I am not mistaken the main idea >>of the e-mail was expressing the greatness of the U.S. compared to other >>countries. >> >> >>Inigo >> >>>From: sponsor@ftel.net >>>To: HPLX Mailing List , "Iqigo M.de >>>Azagra y de Miota" >>>Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) >>>Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 11:51:19 -0800 >>> >>>The article quoted was from the 70s! I don't believe Airbus was in >>>existence then(?) . BA and Air France were designing/building the >>>ill-fated >>>Concorde.. Still, it takes multiple countries to do this. The USa has two >>>or three, and had more in the 70s. >>> >>>At 1/9/01 +0000, you wrote: >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>There is a European company called Airbus which makes airplanes as big >>>>as >>>>the ones you were talking about. Many european airlines use this >>>>airplanes. >>>>In fact they will soon be building the biggest plane in the world. >>>>Unfortunately you didn't know this company existed, this is the case >>>>when we >>>>europeans say that American people are ignorant. You think that the U.S. >>>>must be the best in everything, but that is not true. The U.S. is world >>>>leader in many fields, but NOT in ALL fields. I like the U.S., I have >>>>been >>>>there twice and I have studied at an American School in Spain, but >>>>remember >>>>you are not the best in everything, and there are also interesting >>>>things >>>>and people all over the world. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Inigo in Spain >>>> >>>>_________________________________________________________________________ >>>>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >>>>http://www.hotmail.com. >>>> >>>>** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >> >>_________________________________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:47:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: FLUFF Re: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >As for USA:s spaceproject,wsasn't it the german Werner von >Braun who build that up? The USA is a place where many people from around the world come to realize their full potenital. Von Braun helped to bomb England for the Nazi's. In the US, he achieved greatness. BTW: Look up "Robert Goddard" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:59:58 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: LokTite, Anyone? In-Reply-To: from "Russel Brooks" at Jan 09, 2001 10:20:32 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > There are different grades of Loktite. Some are easy to remove, others > are almost permanent. Use the easy to remove stuff (blue Loktite?) > because all you're trying to do is stop the screws from backing out due > to vibration and flexing in normal use. Russ: Yes, I forgot to mention that. I used the Blue-245 formula. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:57:35 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 8 Jan 2001 to 9 Jan 2001 - Special issue (#2001-13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Correct me if I'm, wrong, but won't 3.1 only > run on the 200lx in proteted mode thereby > making it useless? That's correct. Win 3.0 runs on the 200lx. I'm not sure why anybody cares, except maybe bragging rights. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:15:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Re: 200LX crashes/file corruption Thanks for all the suggestions about my 200LX problems! I think it's pretty well been narrowed down to two main factors: possible problems with my outside software (DVED editor) and also a possible bad solder joint on the aftermarket memory expansion, which was already installed when I got the machine. I've started sticking with Memo for editing my text files. I also plan the "deepfreeze test" (well, maybe 20-30 degrees under the back porch, or something! :-) ) some weekend when I can back up the whole machine and let it go to see what happens to the files. After that it's decision time for going inside it or my old 100LX, or sending either/both to Thaddeus. Regardless of the problems, it's a fantastic machine! Mark |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Whoever welcomes a child in My name welcomes Me," Jesus said. "Whoever welcomes Me welcomes not Me but the One who sent Me." -Mark 9:37 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:36:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Re: 200LX crashes/file corruption A couple of more things in the last digest--thanks! No, my A: drive does not get corrupted--that's what has kept me going all this time! Backups! :-) I'm not familiar with using SHARE, but I suppose there is some possibility that my getting into Memo while using DVED could cause a problem. Since the PCMCIA card files (A: drive) do not get corrupted, I would think this is not the case, but then I just don't know yet. Mark |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:39:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > There is a European company called Airbus > which makes airplanes as big as the ones > you were talking about. Many european airlines > use this airplanes. In fact they will soon be > building the biggest plane in the world. > Unfortunately you didn't know this company > existed, this is the case when we europeans > say that American people are ignorant. You > think that the U.S. must be the best in > everything, but that is not true. The U.S. is world > leader in many fields, but NOT in ALL fields. > I like the U.S., I have been there twice and I > have studied at an American School in Spain, > but remember you are not the best in everything, > and there are also interesting things and people > all over the world. I'm aware of Airbus. I think most Americans are. You seem to have some need to point out our ignorance and I don't really mind. Go ahead if it helps you. I'm often surprised at comments from people in other countries that amount to "Americans are ignorant and vain and they aren't that much better than us". Have a little pride in your country. Spain in your case? You gave the world Picasso, Dali, Cervantes, Segovia, Goya. Some of the best of the best. You have no need to resent our accomplishments. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:53:50 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010109140057.01b56090@mail.alwaysafe.com> > >I think Russia has built the biggest airplane ever. Depends really on what one measures by. Wing span (and technology wise IMHO) no one has beaten the Spruce Goose, IIRC. Well, maybe Saturn V, but that's a rocket... br Franklin (feeling fluffy today...) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:01:31 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nvassoc@ATTGLOBAL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan R Leipper Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud In-Reply-To: <00c901c079f5$9a50aa20$e185fcc1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: electric shock hazards As best I have been able to find out the following seems to be the=20 case. It is current of somewhere around 100 milliamps through the=20 appropriate organs that will kill. When current gets down to the 10 mA range you get tingled. When current gets up over 100 mA the muscles will often seize throwing=20= the individual away from the source of the shock (unless constrained). Burns are a different phenomenon than electrocution. Burns require a=20= bit of energy so there are both current and a time factors to=20 consider. Deposition has to be much greater than dissipation so burns=20= usually require a good deal of current (many amps) and a short period=20= of time. Normal skin resistance is such that some idiots can get away with=20 testing 110 v sockets by using their fingers as sensing instruments by=20= looking for a tingle between live contacts. With lower voltages (such=20= as batteries around 10 volts) the tongue is used because the moisture=20= reduces skin resistance. Use Ohm's law to calculate the resistance=20 (volts =3D resistance times amps, where amps is 1/100). Skin resistance will depend upon dampness of the skin and the contact=20= surface area. (Natalie's construction accident also illustrates that=20= contact is improved with a bit of pressure) There are also electrical effects such as the fact that high=20 frequencies tend to conduct their current on the surface of a=20 conductor. The third phenomena in this discussion is that of tumors and cancers.=20= There have been massive attempts to pin various cancers to various=20 types of electromagnetic fields such as from power lines, cell phones,=20= and so on. None of these efforts has produced any significant=20 correlation nor has any good causation model been proposed. Most of=20 these that I have seen won't even stand cursory skeptical=20 considerations. You might as well worry about hand cancer from holding your palmtop=20 with its Mhz RF field.=20 --=20 Bryan K1CD/7 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:07:09 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Smartmedia in 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > FYI: I had a problem with a compact > flash card and adapter in that it would > take a full minute for it to 'wake up' upon > first use after an extended period of > idleness, which was unacceptable. Although, > once it 'woke up', it was plenty fast I use several compact flash cards with adapters and one regular flash card in my 100lx and 200lx's and I can't tell any difference. These are all made by Sandisk. Maybe the problem you're having has to do with the brand you're using. I even have a couple of old 2 meg Sram cards and they are faster starting up but the difference isn't noticable. I have to look for it to see it. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:23:44 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Dumb formatting question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, sort of a dumb question, but... I'm trying to see if the Sony memory stick adapter PCMCIA can be bootable in the HPLX for Klaus. I'm trying to format it /s to put the system on it. But, even if I boot the HP off drive C, it still says "insert DOS disk in drive A" when I do this. My COMSPEC is set to d:\dos\command.com. I'm booted in pure DOS. Any hints? How can I get Format to take the system from the boot drive? Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:28:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: WTB: Omnibook 3xx/4xx Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > Also, you have to remember not to plug in the AC while running off AAs or the > charging circuitry goes south (or so I've heard). What I've heard is that the Omnibook battery pack has something special about it that enables the charging circuitry that AAs don't have. I have run my Omnibook 425 with the AC adapter with AAs installed and have never had a problem. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:32:06 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... In-Reply-To: <3A5BAB90.53EEA6D8@charter.net> from "Bryan Biggers" at Jan 09, 2001 06:23:44 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > d:\dos\command.com. I'm booted in pure DOS. Any hints? How can I > get Format to take the system from the boot drive? You may have to FDISK it first. Second thought... are you sure that FORMAT is in your path? Perhaps it isn't and somehow the A: drive is in your search path. Just a couple of thoughts. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:31:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > As for USA:s spaceproject,wsasn't it the > german Werner von Braun who build that up? Yes! And now you've spotted our strength. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:37:20 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Lott wrote: > You may have to FDISK it first. Second thought... are you sure that > FORMAT is in your path? Perhaps it isn't and somehow the A: drive is > in your search path. Just a couple of thoughts. > > -Chris > > -- The message is from format. I don't think that I have to FDISK it because it is already formatted, I can get a directory of it. Hey! maybe I can SYS it, let me try that... oops, don't have the SYS command. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:38:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: WTB: Omnibook 3xx/4xx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All this ommnibook talk reminds me; I still have some of those little 40MB western digital drives that the ommnibooks take if anyone wants to buy one. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:42:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: LokTite, Anyone? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Brooks" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 5:20 PM Subject: Re: LokTite, Anyone? > Longden Loo wrote: > > I've never used LokTite on anything, tho I've heard that you can release it by > > heating it a bit (maybe with a warm screwdriver tip?) ... but don't take the > > word of a non-hardware person on that, nor blame me for melting down your case. > > There are different grades of Loktite. Some are easy to remove, others > are almost permanent. Use the easy to remove stuff (blue Loktite?) > because all you're trying to do is stop the screws from backing out due > to vibration and flexing in normal use. In all these discussions about glues and screw and hinge tightening, I never heard anyone mention ester of wood rosin, rosin for short. It doesn't have the dangers of glue yet can be almost as strong. Please ask if you need me to elaborate. I never use on my palmtops, but in other uses has proven great. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:52:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: infoselect question Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Padin" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 3:24 PM Subject: infoselect question > I just a copy of IS and it looks pretty good. I like the freeform nature of > the program. The only thing that bothers me is that file size is limited by > memory. I want to store some big databases with emails, etc. and wait IS to > be able to search for all. Experiment with the memory settings and with the SWAPIS utility. If you have the manual, I shouldn't need to elaborate. :-) > Anyway, the question I have is, Is there an easy way to read multiple ascii > files into an IS database? It's a pain to import a file by typing in the > name. I'd be happy if it just came up with a dir listing where I could pick > the file. There not much help within the program itself (there is a DB import function, but I have not have luck using it for what you want), but might have better luck using Bryan's FFDB program. It doesn't automate the process, but it makes it a little less painful. A better route is IS for Windows. It can do what you want quickly, then convert the result to IS for DOS. HTH Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:34:32 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America In-Reply-To: <000d01c07a95$68f6e2a0$91fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 9 Jan 2001, at 17:39, Barry wrote: > I'm often surprised at comments from people in other countries that > amount to "Americans are ignorant and vain and they aren't that much > better than us". some surely are, but that should not be taken as an attack on America but on their education system. My father was a rep for HP years ago and once when in LA he got complemented on how good his english was for an Australian - thought we spoke French here. Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:00:18 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: LX Survives Impact MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, my LX survived a pretty major impact this weekend when I war in a pretty nasty car wreck. It was in the glove box of my car and ended up in the floorboard during the crash when the glove box popped open. You can see pictures of the car at http://PoliceCarCrash.com Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:00:15 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Re: Fluff: Electrifying stories... In-Reply-To: <01e801c07a50$5e38b180$1401a8c0@srs.as> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 9 Jan 2001, at 16:24, Franklin Eekhout wrote: > > is standard training for us concerning the use of DC to retrain > > damaged nerve/muscle combinations (radial nerve palsy after > > But you use pads with a gel, don't you? That reduces the resistance by > a few decades. What are the volts/milliamps? 2-3-4 volts and a few mA? > Isn't that enough to make one's muscles jump? :-) use a water soaked cloth to reduce skin resistance (after cleaning the skin) > > Isn't this about the specs of these wonder slim-while-you-watch-tv > pads? :-) Any ladies about to tell us the facts? yes the DC I was referring to is the same as those slimmer pads you see advertised (biggest ripp-off I have ever seen), they can improve muscle tone but are not likely to increase muscle size, or reduce fat (fat is a systemic problem that requires a substantial increase in energy demand- exercise vs energy input - food) Physio's do use some other electrical devices some which are modulated so as to produce less irritation (medium frequencies rather than low), and also magnetic and electric fields - we are not to do this on patients we are suspicious of cancer, have untreated cancer, or benign tumours, as supposedly there is evidence that the modalities increase the rate of metastasis (new cancer formations via a "seeding" mechanism). There are some studies into mobile phones going on in Australia - one has showed that there is an affect deep into the brain tissue ( a good conductor) and another is working on the cancer risk. As yet nothing definite and the mobile phone companies are taking the tobacco industry strategy in the media. I am personally more interested that if the allegations hold water, that the sub-stations may pose a bigger problem. Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:00:15 +1030 Reply-To: ed@dove.net.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Lomax Subject: Cable for 200LX - same as OmniGo 100 In-Reply-To: <001301c07a99$46f63760$91fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi, I am told that these cables are the same, so does anybody have a spare one? Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:35:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: himem.sys, emm386.exe, and ramdrive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am surprised the true experts did not jump in, so I'll tell you what I know. These are basically all your options: MAXDOS EMM200 Software Carousel DOSSHELL HTH Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomas e. nemeth" To: Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 7:37 PM Subject: himem.sys, emm386.exe, and ramdrive Hi Folks, I trust the recent marking of time went well for all..... A buddy of mine has acquired an HP200 and asked me some pretty technical questions that I have to pass on to the List to get some collective knowledge. He has a program he wants to run (name escapes me) and want to load HIMEM.SYS EMM386.EXE RAMDRIVE.SYS into the HP200. Now I am not a tech type but I recall there may be some issues with these programs. He said HIMEM.SYS gives him an error msg that it needs 80x86 processor. Can anybody point out some substitutes for the above? He asked me if there was substitute for ramdrive. Forgive the lack of details, all responses are very much appreciated. TIA, tom ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 20:58:20 -0500 Reply-To: Jim Westley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Westley Subject: Re: Golf Solitaire 2.1 now available Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is my personal favorite also - I have won 55 of 4123 and an 18.0 average. I have found you can play for average, or play to win. I can't seem to either real well. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Striegel, Alan" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 4:50 PM Subject: Re: Golf Solitaire 2.1 now available > Since this game is my personal addiction, I've been working at it for far > too long - only to crawl up to an average score of 20.3 I've won 45 of 2369 > games. I used to think that an average above 20.0 was absolutely > impossible, but I'm improving. > > >From: Curtis Cameron Ýmailto:curtc@AIRMAIL.NET¨ > >Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2000 8:38 PM > > > >I've just uploaded version 2.1 of Golf Solitaire. This one saves the > >state when you exit so you can come back to the same deal, will show > >you a histogram of your stats, and has a "progress bar" at the bottom > >so you can see if you're behind or ahead in this game. > > > >And can anyone beat an average score of 20.6? > > > >The game is available at: > >http://members.aol.com/FreeWhl44/lxgames.html > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:14:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: FS: WIN 3.1 on 5.25" disks $7 plus postage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------BF3D1CF1A7749AF184EFCF79" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BF3D1CF1A7749AF184EFCF79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Although the processor on the 200LX might be capable of protected mode, Windows 3.1 would more likely run in real mode, since there's no extended memory. Thereby rendering it nothing more than a novelty, and, yes, mostly useless. Regards, Richard KenLondon wrote: >Andrew King wrote: >> While cleaning up I discovered a set of 7 5.25" disks labelled Windows >> version 3.1. I know that some people like to run 3.1 on the palmtop >> (though I have no idea why). >Correct me if I'm, wrong, but won't 3.1 only run on the 200lx in proteted >mode thereby making it useless? --------------BF3D1CF1A7749AF184EFCF79 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="seronac.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard and Patti Smith Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="seronac.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://seronac.freeservers.com/ adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:seronac@freeport.com fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------BF3D1CF1A7749AF184EFCF79-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 02:25:10 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: New gadget Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Maybe it'll go away, maybe get worse! Meanwhile, I am weeding this stuff > out with a filter. As long as this one thread continues .... I find his mis-spelled English irritating. I know that non-English speakers find it very hard to read and figure out. We have gone through this before. But I guess what I find most irritating is that when he has a more serious question he really wants answered he "lapses" into normal, clear English. Showing disrespect for the group except when he has a real need. I don't twit him. And I even reply occasionally but I wish he would just stop the pigeon English or whatever the hell it purports to be. And for those who truly think he needs a spelling checker - no, he composes the trash with knowledge aforethought. Those are not accidental misspellings. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 18:44:38 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Thank you for what you wrote and the (partial) history lesson. I really would not like to continue participating in this thread. I find it frustrating... Sorry... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 19:08:28 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: New gadget Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20010110022507.HGC2234.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@worldnet .att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Fred, At 1/10/01 +0000, you quoted me and wrote: > > Maybe it'll go away, maybe get worse! Meanwhile, I am weeding this stuff > > out with a filter. > >As long as this one thread continues .... Unfortunately. >I find his mis-spelled English irritating. I know that non-English >speakers find it very hard to read and figure out. We have gone through >this before. _Two_ different flare-ups. Large number of messages. >But I guess what I find most irritating is that when he has a more >serious question he really wants answered he "lapses" into normal, clear >English. Showing disrespect for the group except when he has a real >need. That was the point made before, this is true for this time. >I don't twit him. And I even reply occasionally but I wish he would >just stop the pigeon English or whatever the hell it purports to be. My irritation with his pidgin english is too high - I generally twit his messages unread! If he truly could not write better, that would be no issue, but his disrespect and breaking his own promise is the irritant. >And for those who truly think he needs a spelling checker - no, he >composes the trash with knowledge aforethought. Those are not >accidental misspellings. Right, he needs an attitude adjustment, not a spellchecker. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:44:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: Memory for Excel 2.1 Comments: To: Roger Whitmarsh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ooooppps!!! WEB Roger Whitmarsh wrote: > > William wrote: > >I think all you need to do is to use an expanded mamory manager > > I hereby offer my services to handle any expanded mammaries which > require management > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:11:09 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: LX Survives Impact MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeff, You talked about the 200LX and I saw the wreck pictures of your now retired car (ouch!), but how are you? OK I hope. =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:14:03 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: LX Survives Impact Comments: To: b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20010110041109.GYOL6585.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Bob Newins wrote: > You talked about the 200LX and I saw the wreck pictures of > your now retired car (ouch!), but how are you? OK I hope. I'm fine :-) The good Lord put an angel at the driver's door and both the vehicles that hit me missed hitting the door . I'm just sore and mad at the guy that ran the red light and caused the accident and the stack of paperwork that I was required to complete :) Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 05:33:16 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: fax Comments: To: Wee-Meng Lee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy. Wee-Meng Lee wrote (>): > I was wondering, why not use a regular fax > machine? I'm afraid you're missing the mark completely. I'm receiving weatherfax = images via shortwave radio. These images are not available via regular = faxmachines, (but some of them are on the net). Anyway, the whole point is = to have access to detailed weather information at sea. Apart from Inmarsat = which is horribly expensive both for the hardware and in use, I don't know = any way of receiving regular faxes or connecting to the Internet in mid = ocean. Another point is that once you have the hardware, shortwave weatherfaxes = are free and gratis and don't cost a penny. For regular faxes, I use my = Ericsson MC218 (Psion S5mx in drag) and an Ericsson SH888 cell phone, but I = only send half a dozen faxes a year and receive even fewer. E-mail is so = much easier. > I don't think I want to put my omnibook near water. I've lived on the boat since June '92, and apart from an autopilot which = got soaked by salt spray in a gale this summer and a cell phone which I = accidentally dropped in the drink a couple of years ago, I've never had a = wet-related electronics failure... (Famous last words?) It's a normal = misconception that boats are cold damp places. The relative humidity in my = saloon right this moment is 37%. Inside temperature is 22 degrees = centigrade (71.6=B0F). The outside temperature is around minus 10 degrees = centigrade (14=B0F). Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 05:33:32 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? Comments: To: Victor Roberts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Victor Roberts wrote (>): > Would it be possible to use your LX as the always > on receiver > and then transfer the data to a more power hungry > laptop with > VGA for viewing?=20 No, the problem is that the sofware loads the images direct into display = memory as they are received. Then when they are complete, it saves them to = disk. I have looked at several different weatherfax programs, and this = seems to be the norm. Since the HP only has CGA and therefore 256kb of display memory, faxes that = are longer than 250kb are truncated, and it is only able to receive in low = resolution. If I zoom the images, I just get the low resolution larger. = There is no more detail. On my Pentium 100 Toshiba, the software receives = in high resolution, but that is way too power hungry for continuous use. > But - I assume that an OB 300 to 530 might do > almost as well > regarding power consumption as the LX if you > replace the > rotating hard drive of the OB with a flash card. I > have made > this boot drive swap on my OB 530 and it really > reduces power > consumption. That's good to hear. > I also assume that the lower number > OBs have lower > power consumption than the higher number OBs due > to the fact > that they have lower power processors. Probably. > Who sails an O'Day Javelin in upstate NY, but not > this season > of the year I don't do much sailing myself this time of year, except for a short = motoring trip an hour each way to town once or twice a month to go = shopping. If the weather is stable enough to risk staying overnight in the = rather exposed guest harbour in town, I some times go in on Saturday = morning to do my shopping and then go for a drink in the evening and motor = back on Sunday. It's a lot easier to just walk (or stumble) a few hundred = yards from the pub and back to the guest harbour than have to bother with a = taxi back to the marina where I'm spending the winter. Owen --=20 * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:03:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Fluff: LX Survives Impact Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff wrote: > I'm fine :-) The good Lord put an angel at the driver's door and both the > vehicles that hit me missed hitting the door . Monica??????? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:12:41 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Fluff: LX Survives Impact In-Reply-To: <3A5BED1B.A1F580C8@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Ken London wrote: > > Monica??????? > Huh? Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 23:39:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>> Hi, sort of a dumb question, but... I'm trying to see if the Sony memory stick adapter PCMCIA can be bootable in the HPLX for Klaus. I'm trying to format it /s to put the system on it. But, even if I boot the HP off drive C, it still says "insert DOS disk in drive A" when I do this. My COMSPEC is set to d:\dos\command.com. I'm booted in pure DOS. Any hints? How can I get Format to take the system from the boot drive? <<<<<<<<<<<<< Are you sure that /s is a valid switch in the palmtop's format command. Since the system is organized a little differently in ROM than it would be in RAM, and /s might not have been considered useful, maybe they didn't bother to adapt it to the palmtop. Just a guess. Also will a normal format work on a flash disk, which isn't a real disk, but an emulator. It's possible they also emulate the formatting of tracks in the same way as a real disk, but maybe not. Just another guess. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:20:43 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> I'm often surprised at comments from people in other countries that >> amount to "Americans are ignorant and vain and they aren't that much >> better than us". > some surely are, but that should not be taken as an attack on > America but on their education system. My father was a rep for HP > years ago and once when in LA he got complemented on how good > his english was for an Australian - thought we spoke French here. I'm not sure it's a valid criticism of our education system, either. This is a large frontier country where a lot of isolated inland people never heard much about other countries for centuries. I suspect places on the other side of the various ponds were a bit mythical to a lot of people. As was Canada, Mexico and even Boston. People from other countries came here and settled all over the place and the first thing a lot of them did was try to be as American as they possibly could. So we didn't learn much about other cultures from them. The result was that we grew up as a kind of introverted country. That maybe be worth some criticism. I wish it weren't so. But it happened for pretty understandable reasons. We were isolated. That may also be a factor in our self reliance. Our education system grew up to meet our real needs. It made farmers better farmers and factory workers better factory workers. "Culture" meant a barn dance, a guitar and a fiddle. Maybe more worthy of criticism is the way other countries feel slighted by our lack of knowlege of them. I don't think I'm bothered by getting laughed at because we didn't know the language in Australia. But to call it ignorant ignores the reasons. Sure, everybody knows the major and even some of the minor American cities and where a lot of them are located with reference to one another, and I don't know beans about where Canadian or Mexican cities are located, much less cities or even countries in Europe or Australia. On the other hand I know how to listen to and enjoy Bach and I see and feel the beauty of Rembrandt's engravings and I love Shakespeare's wordplay and I'm moved to tears by Segovia's playing and I've read and loved much of what Grahame Green has written. I always saw myself as the local (if short) John Wayne until I read "The Sorrows of Young Werther" and learned that there were other possible ideals and role models. Maybe, just maybe, we know more about the people in other countries than they think we do. Maybe the values we use to judge one another need re-examination. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:40:24 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: New gadget MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I find his mis-spelled English irritating. > I know that non-English speakers find it very > hard to read and figure out. We have gone > through this before Al's garbled messages are short so even though it takes some effort to read them, it doesn't take much time. I find them amusing. If they were longer, I wouldn't. Anybody remember Vaughn Bode's "Cheech Wizard"? If that's not Al's inspiration I'll eat the Wizard's hat. And that's a HUGE hat. :) They can talk about jazz and c&w all they want. America's great contributions to world culture are Vaughn Bode and Robert Crumb. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:00:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: Franklin Eekhout MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Franklin wrote: > > >I think Russia has built the biggest airplane ever. > > Depends really on what one measures by. Wing span (and technology wise = IMHO) > no one has beaten the Spruce Goose, IIRC. Well, maybe Saturn V, but = that's a > rocket... > The russian airplane I had in mind was a freightplane. Don't remember its name,though. Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:00:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi wrote: > >Furthermore,how many US is there room for in Russia?:) > > > >Three or four?:) > > I am sure you have a point there, but I am not sure I understand it. > It was a message more to the americans on the list who have "enlighted" us europeans how big US is in comparison to single countries in Europe. I agree with you that I find this disscusion frustrating,my last mail in this debate consequently. Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:00:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: FLUFF Re: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed Padin wrote: > The USA is a place where many people from around the world come to = realize > their full potenital. Von Braun helped to bomb England for the Nazi's. = In > the US, he achieved greatness. So Von Braun wasn't a nazi?? Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:22:46 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Fluff: Aeroplanes... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars Hedstroem" >The russian airplane I had in mind was a freightplane. Lift capacity or transport volume then? It lift then maybe it's the Antonov, if volume it might be the Super Guppy. Depends on what one measures. br Franklin (who doesn't remember all the aeroplanes anymore, but some stick...) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 01:56:27 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: New gadget Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <001701c07ad0$36b6a6a0$68fc36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/10/01 -0600, Barry wrote: >Al's garbled messages are short so even though it takes some effort >to read them, it doesn't take much time. I find them amusing. If >they were longer, I wouldn't. No accounting for some people's tastes :) - you Texans also brought us a president who will make Ford's walking and co-incidental gumchewing look like an achievement :-> >They can talk about jazz and c&w all they want. America's great >contributions to world culture are Vaughn Bode and Robert Crumb. But certainly nor Al's Kiddie talk (with all due respect to Al, who maybe a nuclear scientist, for all I know!). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:23:15 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: Re: himem.sys, emm386.exe, and ramdrive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > I am surprised the true experts did not jump in... Too much fluff within the last days. Too many full quotes. Too many answers in front of quotings. Too many text + HTML mails ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:23:18 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: Re: DOS palmtop with greyscale VGA? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Owen H. Morgan wrote: > Since the HP only has CGA and therefore 256kb of display memory CGA has only 16kb display memory > faxes that are longer than 250kb are truncated therefore I think, this limit has nothing to do with the display memory size. What you need is a way to save the weatherfax in a standard picture format to disk and then use LXPIC to view it. No problem to view 16 gray scale VGA images with LXPIC on the palmtop. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 04:52:10 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: New gadget Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > No accounting for some people's tastes :) - you > Texans also brought us a > president who will make Ford's walking and > co-incidental gumchewing look > like an achievement :-> > Betta than the last turkey... > But certainly nor Al's Kiddie talk (with all > due respect to Al, who maybe a > nuclear scientist, for all I know!). One thing fer shore he ain't pushing nikle and dime stuff. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:50:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan Biggers asked how to create a bootable PC Card from the Palmtop. I don't see how. The Format /S and/or Sys commands transfer the MSDOS.SYS and IO.SYS files along with command.com. These files are buried in ROM. I don't think the /S option would be able to find them to copy them to the PC Card. I was going to suggest formatting and transferring the files on a laptop or desktop. But you'd need one with DOS 5.0, right? .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 22:54:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: FS: WIN 3.1 on 5.25" disks $7 plus postage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Repeated attempts by DOS/ Win gurus to get Win 3.1 to run on the Palmtop have failed. I had Win 3.0 working but the small amount of available software that would work with it made it practically useless. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:15:40 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: himem.sys, emm386.exe, and ramdrive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: >Too much fluff within the last days. >Too many full quotes. >Too many answers in front of quotings. >Too many text + HTML mails >... Amen. br Franklin (fluff grows on me after a while, unfortunately) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:02:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Fluff: RE: himem.sys, emm386.exe, and ramdrive Comments: To: "stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a great preference for seeing the responses before the original quote. If I'm following a thread, it's quicker than scrolling past what I've already read and when viewed with Microsoft Outlook in a preview window it saves time. Certainly, I agree that quotes should be as short as necessary and I hate finding HTML and attachments in mail I receive. >From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Ýmailto:stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE¨ >Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 7:23 AM >... >Too many answers in front of quotings. >Too many text + HTML mails ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:21:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Compaq Aero Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" When I visited that URL it gave no indication of being a supplier of products. It looks more like a business directory for the Chicago area. >From: Barry Ýmailto:barry@FBTC.NET¨ >Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:56 PM > >I get batteries from A2Z on the web. (www.a2z.com). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 06:24:11 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Hi, sort of a dumb question, but... I'm trying to see if the > Sony memory stick adapter PCMCIA can be bootable in the HPLX for > Klaus. I'm trying to format it /s to put the system on it. But, even > if I boot the HP off drive C, it still says "insert DOS disk > in drive A" when I do this. My COMSPEC is set to d:\dos\command.com. > I'm booted in pure DOS. Any hints? How can I get Format to take the > system from the boot drive? When in doubt, run d:\bin\fdisk100.exe before trying to FORMAT the card. Even cards formatted in other machines can sometimes have problems in the LX, so you should always run fdisk100 on any problem cards first. Note that this is not the same as FDISK from a normal DOS PC. You also don't need to "FORMAT /S" nor run the SYS command ... those commands lay down the DOS boot files onto the card, but he LX doesn't use them anyway as the needed DOS boot files are read directly from ROM. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 08:34:39 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... In-Reply-To: <882569D0.004F8C76.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> from "Longden Loo" at Jan 10, 2001 06:24:11 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Sony memory stick adapter PCMCIA can be bootable in the HPLX for > > Klaus. I'm trying to format it /s to put the system on it. But, even > > if I boot the HP off drive C, it still says "insert DOS disk > > in drive A" when I do this. My COMSPEC is set to d:\dos\command.com. > > I'm booted in pure DOS. Any hints? How can I get Format to take the > > system from the boot drive? Something is nagging me about this question. Are you sure that the message you refer to above isn't just a normal part of the FORMAT command's operation? Seems like when you format the A: drive, normally a floppy on most systems, you will get such a prompt. What happens when you reply in the affirmative, i.e., that you have "inserted drive A:"? -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:43:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF Re: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Werner Von Braun was a Nazi Party member. I think he was even an SS officer. What's not clear is wether he did so while facing the business end of gun. If Von Braun would have refused his commission he may have been persecuted and maybe even executed by the establishment. There's also evidence that he may have participated, tom some degree, in war crimes. The debate rages on and many feel that he would have been treated differently had it not been for 'special skills'. I think the American's cut him a deal: 'Go to Hunstville or Neurenberg, your choice.' In any way, my point was that many people come from other countries and contribute to the USA. We are a nation of immigrants and continue to be. It is not a shortcoming but rather a strength. Many Americans bitch about immigration and the loss of jobs. I think that, if were not for immigration, we would have some serious shortages of doctors, enginneers and other highly skilled workers. We would still have too many damned lawyers, tho.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars Hedstroem" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 4:00 AM Subject: Re: FLUFF Re: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Ed Padin wrote: > The USA is a place where many people from around the world come to realize > their full potenital. Von Braun helped to bomb England for the Nazi's. In > the US, he achieved greatness. So Von Braun wasn't a nazi?? Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 06:44:24 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , david@CRIPPS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Cripps Subject: LanWatch/Pocket Watch Comments: cc: rclott@RO.COM Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 When I purchased Pocket watch, I had been using Lanwatch 4.0 which worked fine. When I upgraded to LANwatch 4.1 it kept crashing the HP, apparently it was compiled expecting specific functions not supported on the HP (not a programmer, so could be guff). Pocket watch comes up as LANwatch version 4.1 but is stable and works OK, occasionally takes a bit of getting used to the flickering screen. Let me know how you get on. Regards David Cripps ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:49:02 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Connecting to the Internet in mid ocean was: Re: fax MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Morgan, there is a possibility via HF radio. Look at www.kielradio.de. The hardware is a PTC-2 (pactor modem by SCS -> www.scs-ptc.com) and a HF Transceiver and a PC (Laptop). You can connect to the Kielradio Station like to a Internet provider with a phone modem. The Ptc-2 HF modem can be set up like a phone modem in the windows Dial up network. The baud rate is very slow in comparison to a 56K modem, but it works. I tested it myself to send and receive Emails and also connect simple internet sites. The system is not free (do not ask me for prices) but should work quite well for not-radio-amateurs. For radio amateurs on sea there is anonther possibility: you can download weather information from winlink boxes or the packet radio network using pactor and a HF rig. 73! Werner OE9FWV On 10 Jan 2001, at 5:33, Owen H. Morgan wrote: > Apart from > Inmarsat which is horribly expensive both for the hardware and in use, I > don't know any way of receiving regular faxes or connecting to the > Internet in mid ocean. Thought for the day: Book (n): a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the TV repairman. -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:17:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Subject:Fluff: Electrifying stories... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gotta tell my story, when I was 17 I shorted a 17200 volt line and tripped a 15 amp breaker... Lights went out all the way up the 2 mile road. Entrance was through my left jaw and exit was through my right (mostly) amd left hands. My timex watch stopped. My heart probably stopped but the 20 foot fall (or rather the abrupt stop at the bottom of the fall) restarted it. It has made me grateful for life, can't complain about the present when I likely shouldn't even be here..... -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:25:05 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... Comments: To: Ed Keefe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah. Well, I wasn't aware that you could boot off the A: drive at all, but I was just testing it for a guy who wanted to know. It makes sense that you can't format it, and I don't think that I have 5.0 on a disk any more. Thanks, Bryan Ed Keefe wrote: > > Bryan Biggers asked how to create a bootable PC Card from the Palmtop. > > I don't see how. The Format /S and/or Sys commands transfer the MSDOS.SYS > and IO.SYS files along with command.com. These files are buried in ROM. I > don't think the /S option would be able to find them to copy them to the PC > Card. > > I was going to suggest formatting and transferring the files on a laptop or > desktop. But you'd need one with DOS 5.0, right? > > .ed. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:31:31 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't think that I needed format /s either, but here is Klaus's message to me about this that started me going, he wants to see if I can make the card bootable; I'm not sure why, for some application that he has maybe... Since the 200LX boots off ROM, maybe there is no point. I'm going to turn this thread over to him to explain what he wants, and I'll still be glad to test the card in any way he wants in the 'LX. Bryan Quote on It would be nice. You have to hit the -key in the first second of booting and then hit <1>. On the other hand you have to format the stick with the /s option (in DOS 5.0). I would understand, if this all is too much .. Quote off Longden Loo wrote: > When in doubt, run d:\bin\fdisk100.exe before trying to FORMAT the card. > > Even cards formatted in other machines can sometimes have problems in the LX, so > you should always run fdisk100 on any problem cards first. Note that this is > not the same as FDISK from a normal DOS PC. > > You also don't need to "FORMAT /S" nor run the SYS command ... those commands > lay down the DOS boot files onto the card, but he LX doesn't use them anyway as > the needed DOS boot files are read directly from ROM. > > - Longden > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 07:29:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Subject:Fluff: Electrifying stories... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << Gotta tell my story, when I was 17 I shorted a 17200 volt line and tripped a 15 amp breaker... Lights went out all the way up the 2 mile road. Entrance was through my left jaw and exit was through my right (mostly) amd left hands. >> Andrew can probably power his LX directly by putting his right finger into the AC port . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:36:56 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: LanWatch/Pocket Watch In-Reply-To: <20010110144424.22162.cpmta@c000.snv.cp.net> from "David Cripps" at Jan 10, 2001 06:44:24 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > When I purchased Pocket watch, I had been using Lanwatch 4.0 which worked > fine. > > When I upgraded to LANwatch 4.1 it kept crashing the HP, apparently > it was compiled expecting specific functions not supported on the HP > (not a programmer, so could be guff). > > Pocket watch comes up as LANwatch version 4.1 but is stable and works > OK, occasionally takes a bit of getting used to the flickering screen. David: Thanks for the info. I have arranged a deal where I'll get the Pocket Watch product, and the latest Windows 32-bit product as a bundle. I was concerned that there might be a big difference between the DOS and the PocketWatch products. They seem to be implying that the only difference is that one is compiled with 8086-only instructions. He says if I want to run PocketWatch on a regular DOS computer, any modern processor is so fast I won't see any significant difference. I just checked on their website, and it seems that 4.1 is the current DOS product. Can you shed any light on a particular functionality that I'm interested in? Is it possible to capture packet data and save it to file? (I'm pretty sure this is the case). If so, can you later play back the captured data as ethernet packets? Thanks for your help. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:46:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Connecting to the Internet in mid ocean was: Re: fax MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:49:02 +0100, "Dr. Werner Furlan" wrote: > For radio amateurs on sea there is anonther possibility: you can > download weather information from winlink boxes or the packet radio > network using pactor and a HF rig. Don't forget as hams we have the pacsats and birds such as AO-10 and SUNSAT, etc. When the ISS is fully active you will be able to digipeat through it just as you can do through Mir when it is active. 73 de Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- -- Republicans -> http://HillaryHell.com -- -- Democrats -> http://Hillary2K4.com -- -- Explosion? -> http://ReadyToExplode.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 08:13:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << I didn't think that I needed format /s either, but here is Klaus's message to me about this that started me going, he wants to see if I can make the card bootable; I'm not sure why, for some application that he has maybe... Since the 200LX boots off ROM, maybe there is no point. I'm going to turn this thread over to him to explain what he wants, and I'll still be glad to test the card in any way he wants in the 'LX. Bryan << It would be nice. You have to hit the -key in the first second of booting and then hit <1>. On the other hand you have to format the stick with the /s option (in DOS 5.0). I would understand, if this all is too much .. >> >> The sequence Klaus is describing forces the bootup to use what is essentially the normal (default) boot sequence on the LX (in the presence of a readable card). All a card needs to be "bootable" are the config.sys and autoexec.bat files to be present on the card. "Format /s" is not needed, nor would it have any effect on the boot (tho it may eat up some disk space). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:44:53 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: New gadget ÝFluff¨ Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 3:56 AM Subject: Re: New gadget > > No accounting for some people's tastes :) - you Texans also brought us a > president who will make Ford's walking and co-incidental gumchewing look > like an achievement :-> Watch out for "Texans are dumb. Just listen to them talk." attitudes that might creep into your thinking. :) > >They can talk about jazz and c&w all they want. America's great > >contributions to world culture are Vaughn Bode and Robert Crumb. > > But certainly nor Al's Kiddie talk (with all due respect to Al, who maybe a > nuclear scientist, for all I know!). I guess you don't remember Vaughn Bode's Cheech Wizard. I'm sure he's the model (conciously or unconsiously) for Al's patter. Although Al takes it several steps farther. I wonder how much effort that requires on Al's part. Quite a lot, I suspect. Unless his spelling checker truly is corrupted. Interesting that you think Bush sounds dumb, possibly because he talks like a Texan, and you think Al might be a nuclear scientist because he speaks gibberish. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:47:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Compaq Aero Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Striegel, Alan" To: "'HPLX Mailing List'" ; "'Barry'" Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: RE: Compaq Aero > When I visited that URL it gave no indication of being a supplier of > products. It looks more like a business directory for the Chicago area. That's what I get for trying to remember the URL instead of looking it up. It's really http://www.a2zsolutions.com/marquee.htm. Sorry about the confusion. It's just being a Texan. I can't help it. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:58:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: Rubberized LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Avi, Longden, If you try it, I think that the Teflon tape used by plumbers would work better than tissure. (Porosity considerations and general eek factor.) Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:19:44 +0100 Reply-To: Alan Krempler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Krempler Subject: IrDA for HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit has anybody been successful in using the IrDA printer drivers for HPLX system manager? they are available under the name of irda097.zip from the super site. i cannot get them to work. my idea was to adapt the interface for communication with mobile phones, for remote dialing and exchange of vcards and calendar entries. any help appreciated. alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:30:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Fluff: RE: himem.sys, emm386.exe, and ramdrive In-Reply-To: <454226824160D3118F9D00508B08F15A02624C7D@piouspkldmail.pios.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Striegel, Alan wrote: > I have a great preference for seeing the responses before the original > quote. If I'm following a thread, it's quicker than scrolling past what > I've already read and when viewed with Microsoft Outlook in a preview window > it saves time. Oh goody, a top vs. bottom posting war. Actually, top posting works well *if* you are reading an accumulation of posts and they are well threaded. Otherwise, it is awkward at best. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:37:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: X-Finder R.11 Beta 13, and icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Has anyone tried out the latest X-Finder R.11B13 at http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/index.htm ? I have been running R.11B9 for several months with no problems. Also, I have created X-Finder system icon sets for Gnome, KDE and QNX/Photon. I also tweaked the Mac, Win, BeOS and IRIX sets. If S.U.P.E.R. is accepting new uploads, I'll put them there as soon as I get my Deskpro housebroken Bruce in Toronto (Doing penance for his off-topic posts) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:36:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: OT: Win98 install problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii (Sorry for the off-topic post, but you folks are the smartest bunch I have regular access to. And, for what it's worth, if I get this machine running, it'll be my new file backup for my 200LX.) At my kids' insistence, I recently acquired a used Compaq Deskpro 2000 to replace the old Mac we used at home. It's a 200 Mhz 586MMX, 64 Mb/3.2 Gb/8x CD-ROM with the ROM BIOS flashed to Compaq's latest version. It came with Win95 loaded, but no system CD-ROM, so I picked up a copy of Win98 to install on it. Hijinks ensued, as they say. After installation, Device Manager reports that "Plug-and-Play BIOS" (bios.vxd) has problems (Code 8). Consequently, while devices like my CD-ROM and audio card work okay, numerous other devices are not recognized and loaded, like the USB ports or the PCI modem. The suggested fix is to reinstall Win98. This didn't change anything. So I removed bios.vxd via Device Manager, and manually installed "Plug-and-Play BIOS (failsafe)". This installed with no problem, and caused Win98 to recognize all the Plug-and-Play devices *but* to lose the CD-ROM and the audio card! I suppose the next time I have an afternoon to kill, I will try this: - Boot to DOS using the Emergency Start Up Diskette (so I can access the CD-ROM). - Copy all the *.cab files from the Win98 CD-ROM to the hard drive. - Try to manually install the CD-ROM and audio card drivers via Device Manager, pointing it to the .cab files I copied to C: Am I missing anything? Any better suggestions? Any ideas why I am in this mess to begin with? (Thanks for your indulgence. Back to our regularly-scheduled program.) Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 11:58:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Hocking Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Hocking Subject: Quoting, was himem.sys, emm386.exe, and ramdrive We are very lucky that we are on a list that allows quoting period. I subscribe to many other mailing lists that don't allow any quoting, and if you do by mistake, your history! Try following a thread just by the subject line, where the replier can't quote any of the previous message, so it is difficult to follow the thread, and to reply to, plus then you get the list members that don't change the subject line, so many times the subject line does not match the thread, and this is supposed to save space on the server, but it ends up not serving the people it was meant to serve! Best Regards, Robert Hocking ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:02:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: X-Finder R.11 Beta 13, and icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:00:16 -0500 (EST) Beta 10 added a nice preview feature(cntl 2). I haven't really investigated the options offered in the later versions.... Cheers...AJKind 23m10s ago ... On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Bruce Martin wrote: > Has anyone tried out the latest X-Finder R.11B13 at > http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/index.htm ? I have been running = R.11B9 > for several months with no problems. > > Also, I have created X-Finder system icon sets for Gnome, KDE and > QNX/Photon. I also tweaked the Mac, Win, BeOS and IRIX sets. If S.U.P.E.= R. > is accepting new uploads, I'll put them there as soon as I get my = Deskpro > housebroken > > Bruce in Toronto > (Doing penance for his off-topic posts) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:35:14 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Fluff : Airbus & Co (Was : Democracy in America) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09-01 19:38 MET, vous avez ecrit: > And can we leave this thread on that positive note? Not yet ! I will even join this thread with another from a few days... Remember when we discussed about countries sizes ? Well, there is another point where USA don't have any supremacy, and have even bought foreign products for its internal market. Strangely, it is a techology you could suppose be logicaly dominated by gigantic countries (USA, Australia...) but is ruled by small ones : France and Japan. Its about high speed trains. USA don't possess this technology, and some years ago, one state (Texas ?) had to buy France's TGV... A+ Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:06:06 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > As for USA:s spaceproject,wsasn't it the > > german Werner von Braun who build that up? > > Yes! And now you've spotted our strength. We steal the best? We give asylum to Nazi's we can use and execute the rest? We ignore Cuba but cozzy up to China? We are human and fallible like everyone else? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:33:55 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Subject:Fluff: Electrifying stories... In-Reply-To: <3A5C7D18.621B55C1@mediaone.net> > Gotta tell my story, when I was 17 I shorted a 17200 volt line and > tripped a 15 amp breaker... Lights went out all the way up the 2 mile Well, we bow our heads in acknowledgement of the record... :-\ Interesting. Did you get burnt a lot/surgery? There is a kid that did something like this here when I was young. In his 40s now. Lost one whole arm and one lower arm. He went to the South Pole on skis last year, or the year before. 17200 V * 15 A = 25800 W. Trip speed is maybe 10 ms, so a ramp from 0 to 15 Amps gives a coefficient of 0,5. Anyway, about 258 * 0,5 = 179 W of energy? They cut steel with 5 W lasers... :-) Just playing... br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:42:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Fluff : Airbus & Co (Was : Democracy in America) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's a silly argument. Countries (and people for that matter) adopt technologies because they NEED them, not because they are the latest and greatest. High speed trains just aren't economically feasible in the U.S. Passenger railroads all went out of business years ago in this country. They just couldn't compete with the interstate highway system and airline traffic. Amtrak only exists because the feds decided that the U.S. should not exist without any passenger rail service at all. It exists as a wholly owned government subsidized company. The Europeans and Asians find it more economically feasible to deploy passenger railroads for many reasons: geography, ecology, fuel prices, and probably more I can't think of. This is really becoming a pissing contest. My argument is not that the U.S. in better than all countries in all ways. It's that all this 'U.S. bashing' seems to stem from a global inferiority complex. It's a natural human tendency to hate the rich and powerful.... even when they are a (relatively) benevolent power. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Belin" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:35 AM Subject: Fluff : Airbus & Co (Was : Democracy in America) On 09-01 19:38 MET, vous avez ecrit: > And can we leave this thread on that positive note? Not yet ! I will even join this thread with another from a few days... Remember when we discussed about countries sizes ? Well, there is another point where USA don't have any supremacy, and have even bought foreign products for its internal market. Strangely, it is a techology you could suppose be logicaly dominated by gigantic countries (USA, Australia...) but is ruled by small ones : France and Japan. Its about high speed trains. USA don't possess this technology, and some years ago, one state (Texas ?) had to buy France's TGV... A+ Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:49:51 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Win98 install problems In-Reply-To: Hi Bruce, Last things first: > Am I missing anything? Any better suggestions? Any ideas why I am in this > mess to begin with? You are a father and have kids... :-) And a Compaq... > - Boot to DOS using the Emergency Start Up Diskette (so I can access the > CD-ROM). > - Copy all the *.cab files from the Win98 CD-ROM to the hard drive. Good idea. I personally don't like upgrades and always do a fresh install in possible. I usually do it like this. > - Try to manually install the CD-ROM and audio card drivers via Device > Manager, pointing it to the .cab files I copied to C: You can pull out the cards (audio+modem) and install. If all is ok then install one by one rebooting after each install. Does it have integrated audio? Did you turn off the Boot Sector Protection off? In the bios? Don't know if a Compaq 2000 has this, previous models do not have it. Skip all driver installs, so that it is as clean as possible. Try and get stable before better. Backup the registry now and again, Emergency Recovery Diskette. There's also a backup on the cd somewhere. br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:22:40 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: SRAM cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, we have about 4000 used 1.5 meg rechargeable SRAM cards. Don't even know if they are still any good. If anyone is interested in buying them in significant quantity email me. We don't have specs on them. Hal from Thaddeus << > If I remember right, XIP will work on an sram card where it has > direct access. It's just more ram to the lx. But I'm pretty sure > it won't work on a flash card. Thaddeus Computing has a lot of used 1.5 Meg SRAM cards. People who want one could check with them www.palmtoppaper.com>> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:38:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Fluff : Airbus & Co (Was : Democracy in America) Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed Padin wrote: >That's a silly argument. Countries (and people for that matter) adopt > technologies because they NEED them, not because they are the latest = and > greatest. Why did you fly to the moon then? You didn't need that,you could have spent the money on poor people in Africa or elsewhere:) Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:50:43 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... Comments: To: Chris Lott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > Sony memory stick adapter PCMCIA can be bootable in the HPLX for > > > Klaus. I'm trying to format it /s to put the system on it. But, even > Something is nagging me about this question. Are you sure that the > message you refer to above isn't just a normal part of the FORMAT Something is also nagging me and Longden kind of hinted at it. What is the user trying to do? The HP boots from its internal file system and DOS. But it will continue the process on c: or a: depending on where config.sys is located. It will not TRULY boot from the a: drive even if that card/stick/whatever has dos' system files. There seems no purpose to SYS a: The user should just rename or delete c:'s config.sys and autoexec.bat file and place them on a: Or have I missed the real boot process the user wants to try? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:50:44 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > skilled workers. We would still have too many damned lawyers, tho.... You're right. Fred Kaufman, JD (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 14:04:55 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: SRAM cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << Yes, we have about 4000 used 1.5 meg rechargeable SRAM cards. Don't even know if they are still any good. If anyone is interested in buying them in significant quantity email me. We don't have specs on them. >> I don't see them on your website, Hal. What are you selling them for? And if you can refresh my memory, what kind of battery does it use? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:08:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Batson, Dale N" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Batson, Dale N" Subject: Compilers for HP Palmtop Developer's Guide (ISV libraries) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I just bought a copy of the "HP Palmtop Developer's Guide" from Thaddeus and read in Ed Keefe's included article, "The New and Improved HP Palmtop Developer's Guide" Ýfor¨ "creating programs that rely on the Lotus System Manager Application Programming Interface (API) and the Lotus Handheld API (LHAPI)...HP also recommends using Microsoft C 6.00 AX and/or MASM 5.1 as programming languages. Other compilers may get the job done, but none of them have been tested by HP or Lotus and the Developer's Guide doesn't support them." I expected a generic source code library -- not a compiler-specific object code library. Does anyone have experience using this library with other compilers and/or assemblers? I'm currently using Borland C++ v2.0 and TASM v2.51 on my 200LX. Will these work? Does anyone have a copy of Microsoft C 6.0 they'd be willing sell? TIA, Dale Batson ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:16:09 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Longden_Loo mentioned that a 'Palmtop bootable disk' needs only an autoexec.bat and config.sys file. Correct. However, in the older parlance of DOS, a 'bootable disk' needed the MSDOS.SYS and IO.SYS files as well as well as a boot record. I don't think the boot sequence would even recognize those .sys files on a PC card. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:03:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Compilers for HP Palmtop Developer's Guide (ISV libraries) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale N Batson asked about other compilers and assemblers for the LHAPI and API from Lotus and HP. Have you considered the PAL library of C functions (also available on the CD--I assume you got the CD) or the simpler LXBatch program (excellent for prototyping stuff). PAL will let you create .EXE files. Don't know about .EXM files however. I think I have a copy of MS C 6.0 in the basement. I'd be willing to let it go. Downside is that the software is on 5.25 inch disks and I'll need a fork-lift to get it to the UPS or USPS. The shipping cost will be the biggest expense. Let me know if you really, really want it---off list of course at emkeefe@qwest.net .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:05:20 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: SRAM cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hal Goldstein mentioned 1.5 M SRAM cards. Hal, if you want to put a page on the Web site, can you send me the details? (Cost, product number, pics, etc.) .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:14:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff: LX Survives Impact Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff wrote: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Ken London wrote: > > > > > Monica??????? > > > > Huh? Monica from Touched By An Angel > > Jeff > > -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- > -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- > -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 06:52:33 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor Bryan R Leipper writes: > You might as well worry about hand cancer from holding your palmtop > with its Mhz RF field. Uh oh. Now I *am* worried--my palmtop often rests on my lap! Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:40:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 8 Jan 2001 to 9 Jan 2001 - Special issue,(#2001-13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:57:35 -0600, Barry wrote: > > Correct me if I'm, wrong, but won't 3.1 only > > run on the 200lx in proteted mode thereby > > making it useless? > > That's correct. Win 3.0 runs on the 200lx. I'm not sure why > anybody cares, except maybe bragging rights. Got it to work and then..deleted it 8-) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:43:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Fluff: Quoting and replying above/below MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:02:03 -0500, Striegel, Alan wrote: > I have a great preference for seeing the responses before the original > quote. You are ofcourse entitled to have that opinion. But it is a fact thoug that on the internet (talking about newsgroups) the "standard" is that you answer below the quoted material. > If I'm following a thread, it's quicker than scrolling past what > I've already read and when viewed with Microsoft Outlook in a preview window > it saves time. For _you_ maybe. It will save _you_ time, but the result is that the rest of the Hplxlist will have to scroll down and then up to see what the heck you are talking about. So it saves 2 peoples time(the one you are replying too and you) but wastes a lot of other peoples time. > Certainly, I agree that quotes should be as short as necessary and I hate > finding HTML and attachments in mail I receive. Yes we agree on this. In emails I can see your point in having the answer above(maybe), but here in a public forum it is not the best way of doing things. When you read a newspaper..do you read from the bottom up? No you read what the problem was and then what the solution was.. That is how it should be here also.. Just my 2 cents Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:43:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Rex 3 and Hplx again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi I redicovered my Rex3 card and I have found a use for it. I want to do the following: I have a phonebook.pdb with about 600 enteries. I want to have all enteries that are:"Catagory=Work" transferred to my Rex3 card. (About 60 enteries). What is the best solution for this? I have played some with this and maybe looked at it from the wrong angle. What I am playing with now is having a macro coping all the enteries that have "Cat=Work" to a secondary work.pdb and then doing gdbio on work.pdb file and then hp2rex -> Rexwr it. Having some difficulties with getting all the enteries copied from phonebook.pdb to work.pdb. I thought I could have a subset with "Only Cat=work) and then "Select all" and then copy. But that does not work. I have to copy one for one. I can do a extract to work.pdb but then I get all enteries and not only the ones I want. But as I write this I thought that maybe a print to file thing with a smartclip with the fields and "Cat=work" is the way to go? I print to a csv textfile that hp2rex can work with at once? Have I solved my own problem? Any suggestions? I am looking forward to be able to export .ndb files directly to the Rex card also. And also if it will be possible to set time and "click off" and things like that when I overwrite the card. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 18:43:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Pdu and moving smsmessages from inbox ->outbox? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi I use the latest PDUversion with post/lx and a Nokia 6210. It works great. I can transfer messages from the Nokia 6210 to the sms box on the Hplx. It also transfers messages stored in different folders on te 6210. My problem is that when I transfer messages from the 6210 -> Hplx I get all messages from every folder on the 6210 transferred to the _inbox_ of the smsfolder on Hplx. Messages from the 6210's outbox is also transferred to the Hplx's inbox. How can I transfer/move the Outmessages from the inbox to the Outbox? Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:38:44 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , revwkschultz@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: William Schultz Subject: Selling Out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am both selling out on the LX form factor and selling the LX stuff. 1. $85+shipping. 200LX has super glued hinge crack, a bulge in the middle, and from time to time one line on the left side of the screen. It comes with the box and all the manuals. (Also Thaddeus gave me a 1.5MEG SRAM card, I will put that in the box. 2. $70+shipping. Connectivity Pack. Comes with box and all manuals. I mainly used the cable to connect to a printer. I never did get the hang of syncing the 200LX to my PC. 3. $70+shipping. EXP 33.6 PCMCIA modem with 8MEG of memory. I can't find the original box, but I have the manual (such as it is.) PLEASE BE AWARE!! This card draws too much power and cannot be left in the LX. It comes with its own battery pack and telephone cord. 4. $20+shipping. 1996 Palm Top Paper's CD InfoBase. 5. $600+shipping. 1882 Honda CX-500 with Pacifico Fairing (oops sorry, suddenly I thought I was Scott Moore) You tell me how you want it shipped. For those of you in the San Francisco Bay Area, I would be willing to bring it to you, or you can come visit me, any Sunday morning 10AM at the address below. ;o) |¬¬¬¬¬| Colossians 3:23 (@ @) Rev William K Schultz | /\ | Resurrection Lutheran Church, LCMS |_ --_| 2495 Cabrillo Ave, Santa Clara Ca 95051 | | vox (408) 241-2728 fax (408) 241-3197 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:05:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff: Quoting and replying above/below Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin Bergvill wrote: > You are ofcourse entitled to have that opinion. But it is a fact thoug > that on the internet (talking about newsgroups) the "standard" is that > you answer below the quoted material. When I reply to a post I usually try to chop it down to one or two important points and then reply after the message. That way I eliminate alot of wasted space to scroll through. I find that quoting the entire message is unnecessary. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:57:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: SRAM cards Comments: To: Hal Goldstein In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hal, you sent me three of these I believe. They work fine, but require to be in the palmtop for some time to have their batteries recharged. I am interested in some of these cards, and will write separately to you. At 1/10/01 -0600, you wrote: >Yes, we have about 4000 used 1.5 meg rechargeable SRAM cards. Don't even >know if they are still any good. If anyone is interested in buying them in >significant quantity email me. We don't have specs on them. > >Hal from Thaddeus > > ><< > > If I remember right, XIP will work on an sram card where it has > > direct access. It's just more ram to the lx. But I'm pretty sure > > it won't work on a flash card. > >Thaddeus Computing has a lot of used 1.5 Meg SRAM cards. People who want >one >could check with them www.palmtoppaper.com>> > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:18:29 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Goin' Postal User Review Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have been using Goin' Postal (GP) for several months now and have a few observations that might be of interest to those of you who have thought of using GP on the LX. 1. Overall, the program is exceptional in nearly every respect. It is small, quick and pleasantly reliable. 2. The program relies heavily on single key operations, like function keys to access program features as well as to launch its major functions. 3. The learning curve is comaratively short due to its "task specific" nature - a term of endearment used by us old programmer's. 4. Sadly missing are just a few features that would have made GP really outstanding: There is no interval time set for automatic mail retrieval. Has anyone had any luck using a DOS TSR keyboard macro to launch programs, activate features, close programs and then wait a specified time before repeating the process? There is no facility to create folders to hold mail other than those created for the mailhosts (ISPs) and the default In, Out, Save and Trash. There is no warning that you are running out of disk space. I found this out once when I had retrieved some unusually large email files and attempted to open them while having only 44k of disk space on drive C. The program attempts to open the file, but then simply throws you back into the mail index screen. Freeing up disk space solves the problem but you have to figure out what the problem is first. There is no direct address import feature, thus each address must be manually entered into the address book. I tried unsuccessfully to dump 100 addresses into GP's address book file but that didn't work. It would have been nice if the address book were simply a text file. Still, overall I am quite pleased with GP and use it both on my LX and on my laptop - it runs fine under DOS on either platform which is another rich feature. Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA rbc@ezlink.com = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:28:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Anthony Ettipio Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Anthony Ettipio Subject: Re: InfoSelect TSR Question Comments: To: scotts@tovax.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott - I use Software Carousel to do what you want . .. Can you help me with my question? Anybody have a clue on how to export the *.wd files in a neat, organized text file(s) for import into a wordprocesssor - without having all the info packed so tightly? Exporting with breaks for each window would be great! -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Scott Schindler Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 9:25 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: InfoSelect TSR Question I have been using InfoSelect on the LX via the System Manager (c:\is\is.exe n|128) for years because I was never able to get the TSR working properly. I am now revisiting the TSR because I want/need the DOS session available along with IS. I know there are other IS users out there and I was wondering if you have already solved this problem. The problem that is happening to me: I load IS from autoexec.bat c: cd\is swapis /n is cd\ When I invoke IS with alt-j the screen goes into 40 column mode and the alt-j out corrupts the screen so I cannot see the System Manager, just vertical lines. ESC then takes me back to the Topcard. Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:00:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Subject:Fluff: Electrifying stories... Comments: To: Franklin Eekhout In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >17200 V * 15 A = 25800 W. Try 258,000 W. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:20:18 -0800 Reply-To: Sotiros Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sotiros Subject: 200lx repairs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01C07B4B.22C0D3C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C07B4B.22C0D3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My 14 year old son has been using his own 2 meg HP200lx for about two = years. He has been saving to get the speed doubler and upgrade the ram. = Since last week his screen has gotten very difficult to read, = everything seems doubled.........as if two or three screens are = superimposed over one another. Now the question is...............does = it make sense to repair the unit for some $125.00 plus shipping......and = do the upgrade. I believe the speed doubler and 32 megs is something = like $150.00. That puts the cost in the area of $275.00. I think he = should consider another alternative. He is bull headed and only wants = the 200lx. Please help my son and I come to a decision. At any = rate.........repairing the unit is all he could do at this time, and = start saving for the upgrade in the future. After saving for the = upgrade, then needing to spend those monies only to stay where he = was......well, you can see the difficult position he is in. Of course, = I will be forwarding these messages to my son........it is his decision = in the end. =20 Thanks btw .......can someone please tell me about backlighting ........ my son = said something about it last year ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C07B4B.22C0D3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My 14 year old son has been using his = own 2 meg=20 HP200lx for about two years.  He has been saving to get the speed = doubler=20 and upgrade the ram.  Since last week his screen has gotten very = difficult=20 to read, everything seems doubled.........as if two or three screens are = superimposed over one another.  Now the question = is...............does it=20 make sense to repair the unit for some $125.00 plus shipping......and do = the=20 upgrade.  I believe the speed doubler and 32 megs is something like = $150.00.  That puts the cost in the area of $275.00.  I think = he=20 should consider another alternative.  He is bull headed and only = wants the=20 200lx.  Please help my son and I come to a decision.  At any=20 rate.........repairing the unit is all he could do at this time, and = start=20 saving for the upgrade in the future.  After saving for the = upgrade, then=20 needing to spend those monies only to stay where he was......well, you = can see=20 the difficult position he is in.  Of course, I will be = forwarding=20 these messages to my son........it is his decision in the = end. =20
 
Thanks
 
btw .......can someone please tell me about = backlighting=20 ........ my son said something about it last = year
------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C07B4B.22C0D3C0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 06:56:57 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Mhz RF field and 12V DC testing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan of K1CD/7 wrote: >You might as well worry about hand cancer from holding your palmtop >with its Mhz RF field or sterility/infertility from your laptop on your lap? >With lower voltages (such as batteries around 10 volts) the tongue is used >because the moisture reduces skin resistance. i assume the HPLX adapter can be faulty and carry high voltage due to the primary coils reduction in windings after an accidental drop? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 07:01:45 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Fluff why this list is as great as America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit being such a high-caliber/target on this list i want to thank you for keeping the list alive with intelligent, and sometimes controversial "fluff" in face of the end of the printed Palmtop Paper and our dying/superseded LX (and yes, there are a few who are begging me not to leave the list) the reason why i can't get myself to drop this list (yet) for other lists is that i am learning! my subject "Democracy in America" changed to "aviation" - how interesting, and I learned about electricity. Another reason why i like the list is the intelligence and love of the "white, heterosexual, males - majority" (see below) as for "America" - i don't see it as a country/nation, but as a place on this planet where creativity, potential and intelligence have been valued and enshrined in law to allow the likes of Carl Sagan, Einstein, Ed Stone, Hewlett and Packard, not to mention the numerous Nobel laureates, to give this world meaning beyond stone-age subsistence. Upholding the law of freedom to add to the collective knowledge of our planet is America's strength. Other places on this planet, including France and Canada, are still behind this intensly intellectual freedom and bow to high-volume but small interest groups, like the politically correct and the feminists: ---The Ten Commandments of Political Correctness... Thou shalt: 1. Regard all racial and sexual minorities as sacrosanct and refrain from any criticism of them. 2. Treat women as a minority, though they constitute 52 per cent of the population. 3. Blame all society's ills on the white, heterosexual, male "majority". 4. Deplore all discrimination, unless it is specifically designed to disadvantage the "majority". 5. Insist that the "majority" is by nature racist and sexist and devise ways to control its behaviour. 6. Ignore any comments by minorities about the "majority", or about each other, which might suggest that they too sometimes have racist and sexist tendencies. 7. Place no importance upon truth, accuracy or consistency of argument, for the next commandment makes these inconveniences unnecessary. 8. Silence all dissenters with a system of legal penalties, social vilification and ridicule. 9. Pretend that political correctness is simply about politeness. 10. Rejoice in your moral superiority. by Don Bruce (letters to the editor, Globe and Mail, Canada, August 10, 1997) >All of our elected officials (republicans and democrats) are so >full of bull that they squish when they walk. :)) ....but on second thought, this is rather sad ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 07:04:15 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mainly to Richard >> America's weakness is that half the voters are below average in >> intelligence, >Well, Nathalie, unless you're joking... as another list member has already pointed out: "Oh there should be great reaction to your cool analysis of American politics . However your premise *is* cooly rational - that half are under the average intelligence, and half over it :)" so, Richard, you may have mis-read my above quoted statement? - you are however correct, as other members have pointed out, that the lack of education of voters is an inherent weakness with any democracy. >Nathalie, simply to make a point. That point being: Those who live in >glass houses shouldn't throw stones! i.e.: Let he/she who is without sin >cast the first stone. you must have missed one of my earlier posts in which i stated that i am not "french" or belonging to "France" (as the Count in Sesame Street is not a Transylvanian or Ala-bamian) >So, let's not abuse or insult one another, since the purpose of this >list is to bring people together. exactly! :) that's my whole point - to go beyond human-made boundaries, be they political, national or religious, and see the common earth as part of the larger cosmos, our final frontier. which brings me to SETI@home - have you joined? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:06:30 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: "Iqigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > there twice and I have studied at an American School in Spain, but remember > you are not the best in everything, and there are also interesting things > and people all over the world. > > Inigo in Spain I am not aware of any country presently *giving* their technology to the rest of the world. How many CS or EE degrees are coming from Japan, China, India, etc. Some? Where did their professors get their education in the first place? Lots of degreed Americans are now sweeping floors and flipping burgers. References?, try http://www.os2hq.com/ I've observed some of what Tom Nadeau discusses in "Seven LEAN Years" Bob -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 03:17:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Goin' Postal User Review Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob wrote: > I have been using Goin' Postal (GP) for several months now > and have a few observations that might be of interest to > those of you who have thought of using GP on the LX. How about NG:s? Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 07:00:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Fw: 200lx repairs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Hansen To: HPLX Mailing List Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 6:52 AM Subject: Re: 200lx repairs To upgrade a 2 Meg 200 LX to 32 Meg/Double Speed would cost almost $400 (see http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cart/shop/PT-Upgrade.htm ). Eight Meg/Double Speed is about $160. IMHO, your son needs to start from the position and say to himself, I have nothing useful, and I can get a *nearly* new 200 LX for $125 (meaning Hal will rebuild it to near-new condition for $125), or he can jump platform, sell the 200 LX for a few $ and take his $125 or so and invest in a new platform - but there are very few choices... But one that may be worthwhile is a low-cost PC laptop, like the Portege 650ct - I got one recently on auction at eBay for $185, and it was in very good shape. The seller also sells them direct with a few accessories for $270, see http://www.supersellers.net/ . Another alternative would be to jump ship to a palm pilot, like the Palm IIIxe at Staples for about $150 (after rebate) - see http://www.hot-deals.org/ . A nearly new 200LX at $125 is a pretty good deal, if you are committed to the platform... Backlighting is not going to happen, it seems - it was too hard to get a reproducable product - they tended to destroy LCD displays when they tried to upgrade them, IIRC. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: Sotiros To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 12:20 AM Subject: 200lx repairs My 14 year old son has been using his own 2 meg HP200lx for about two years. He has been saving to get the speed doubler and upgrade the ram. Since last week his screen has gotten very difficult to read, everything seems doubled.........as if two or three screens are superimposed over one another. Now the question is...............does it make sense to repair the unit for some $125.00 plus shipping......and do the upgrade. I believe the speed doubler and 32 megs is something like $150.00. That puts the cost in the area of $275.00. I think he should consider another alternative. He is bull headed and only wants the 200lx. Please help my son and I come to a decision. At any rate.........repairing the unit is all he could do at this time, and start saving for the upgrade in the future. After saving for the upgrade, then needing to spend those monies only to stay where he was......well, you can see the difficult position he is in. Of course, I will be forwarding these messages to my son........it is his decision in the end. Thanks btw .......can someone please tell me about backlighting ........ my son said something about it last year ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 05:02:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: Goin' Postal User Review Comments: To: nxw988e@TNINET.SE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lars wrote: >NG:s What might this be? Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA rbc@ezlink.com = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 07:51:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Goin' Postal User Review MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob wrote: > Lars wrote: > >NG:s > > What might this be? I mean NewsGroups,if Going Postal can connect to newsservers and download articles. Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 07:04:56 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Macro for adding Memo carriage returns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Okay, I spent a few minutes running with Steve Carder's excellent suggestion to add carriage returns to Memo files using print to file. Here is the System Macro I wrote to do this. Note that it is to be run from within Memo while the file is open, and relies on the file already having a name. Basically, it opens File-saveAs to copy the file name, pastes it into the name of the print-to file, and then opens the file. The last five commands take care of snipping out the extra characters added at the end of the file in the process. {Alt}fa{Copy}{Esc}{Esc}{Alt}fpf{F10}{Paste}{Enter}{Alt}fo{Paste} {F10}n{Ctrl+Right}{Ctrl+End}{Shift+Up}{Shift+Up}{Shift+End}{Del} I've tested this some, but not extensively. So far it works well with PNR. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:32:53 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jorgen@PALMTOP.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Re: Compilers for HP Palmtop Developer's Guide (ISV libraries) Comments: To: "Batson, Dale N" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Forget the HP Development. Download NKIT from SUPER and then you can use Turbo C 2.0 and create great EXM programs in a much easier way. Jorgen > I just bought a copy of the "HP Palmtop Developer's Guide" from Thaddeus and read in Ed Keefe's included article, "The New and Improved HP Palmtop Developer's Guide" > > Ýfor¨ "creating programs that rely on the Lotus System Manager Application Programming Interface (API) and the Lotus Handheld API (LHAPI)...HP also recommends using Microsoft C 6.00 AX and/or MASM 5.1 as programming languages. Other compilers may get t > he job done, but none of them have been tested by HP or Lotus and the Developer's Guide doesn't support them." > > I expected a generic source code library -- not a compiler-specific object code library. Does anyone have experience using this library with other compilers and/or assemblers? I'm currently using Borland C++ v2.0 and TASM v2.51 on my 200LX. Will these > work? Does anyone have a copy of Microsoft C 6.0 they'd be willing sell? > > TIA, > Dale Batson > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 07:34:17 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Ntime problems? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For many months (a year?) I have used NTIME with LXTCP to synchronize my 200LX system clock with an NTP server. This week I noticed I get a time out when I try to get the time from my usual server, molecule.ecn.purdue.edu. Has anyone else using this program noticed any problems recently? I tried a number of other servers before finding one that worked (sundial.columbia.edu). If I can find out what the problem is, I'd prefer to return to using a Purdue University server, since then I don't have to make seasonal adjustments for daylight savings time. I sent the administrative contact there an e-mail asking if there had been changes made (perhaps at the new year?), but have not heard back yet. If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd appreciate hearing them. Thanks, Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:44:16 -0500 Reply-To: scotts@tovax.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Schindler Subject: Re: InfoSelect TSR Question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>Anybody have a clue on how to export the *.wd files in a neat, organized text file(s) for import into a wordprocesssor - without having all the info packed so tightly? Exporting with breaks for each window would be great! <<< Use Adjust (a) -> Print (p) -> 13 down arrows should get you to PRINT TO A FILE, set it to yes (!) if it is not set to yes already -> down arrow again to FILE TO PRINT TO and give it one -> Press ESC twice -> Hit Print (p) -> and type in the number of "windows" in the file. There you have it. O course this is the part where we find out that we are using a different version of IS. I think mine is version 1 DOS, the is.exe is dated 4-07-96 and is 105116 bytes. Good Luck, Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:47:23 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Connecting to the Internet in mid ocean was: Re: fax MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Jeff, On 10 Jan 2001, at 10:46, Jeff wrote: > > Don't forget as hams we have the pacsats and birds such as AO-10 and > SUNSAT, etc. When the ISS is fully active you will be able to digipeat > through it just as you can do through Mir when it is active. > for Owen sitting on a shaky sailing boat maybe a little complicated to link to a satelite flying over his head... In my opinion for this purpose HF is still the best way to get what you need. 73! Werner OE9FWV I Didn't Climb to the Top of the Food Chain to Be a Vegetarian -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:16:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Fluff: Re: Largest aircraft ever MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, Antonov An-225 Mrija ("Dream") Cargo up to 250 tons, twin tail, 6 jet engines a 225kN. Originally built to carry the Spaceky Shuttlesky (Buran) One built, one left uncompleted due to funding shortage. Few years ago it was busy hauling aids for Chernobyl victims from Canada. I think, it's owned by Ukraine now. Sincerely: Tamas Feher >The russian airplane I had in mind was a freightplane. >Don't remember its name,though. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:17:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: OT WIN98 problems? try WIN98Lite.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject:OT: Win98 install problems Date:Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:36:47 -0500 From:Bruce Martin At my kids' insistence, I recently acquired a used Compaq Deskpro 2000 to replace the old Mac we used at home. It's a 200 Mhz 586MMX, 64 Mb/3.2 Gb/8x CD-ROM with the ROM BIOS flashed to Compaq's latest version. It came with Win95 loaded, but no system CD-ROM, so I picked up a copy of Win98 to install on it. Hijinks ensued, as they say. I'm not sure if it will help your bios device manager but I would reccomend WIN98Lite (http://www.98lite.net/98lite.html). It's basically an installer that takes over the WIN98 installation and gives you much more control over the installation process. You can even install WIN98 without internet explorer if you so desire (so much for the browser being an integral part of the OS) If you'd rather go back to WIN95 I've got an extra copy you could talk me out of. The main reason I switched to WIN98 was for USB support, if you don't have USB you might be just as well off with WIN95. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:16:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Anyone has Sharp PC-3100 for sale? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, Does anyone (in US or Europe) has a Sharp PC-3100 for sale at a reasonable price? I'd take it. Thanks, Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:26:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases inUSA. Comments: To: dmp24@JUNO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:29:50 -0800, David M Peterson wrote: > The issue is the up to 5 watts of radio frequency energy that is produced > by the transmitter in the phone. Different people respond to different > frequencies. Having the transmitter up against the head, in the same spot > for extended periods of time causes energy to be focused at resonant > spots. Spots that are constantly damaged then healed can easily become > cancerous. Car and "bag" phones generate 5 watts. Portable cell phones generate 0.6 watts or less. (OK, the very old and very large "portable" cell phones did generate about 3 watts, but they are very rare. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:26:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Fluff: Electrifying stories... Comments: To: Franklin Eekhout MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:09:49 +0100, Franklin Eekhout wrote: > > In Norway (220 V) we sometimes cook sausages by connecting a nail to each > wire and sticking them in on each side, usually in Electro 101. Two close > and the fuse goes. Two long and the sausage explodes (happens at parties > when folks get hungry!). Two little leaves it cold. Different for each > length of sausage, and make too as the salt content can vary. There was a hot dog cooker sold in the US that used the same principle, but at 120 volts. It had no heater. Just two electrodes, one connected to each side of the power line that stick into the ends of the hot dog, which is a US sausage. The device was called the Presto HotDogger. I purchased one on eBay last August to show the class I was teaching the dangers of electricity. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:39:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dennis Bell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Bell Subject: fluuff Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am dismayed to see the fluff content rising higher and higher these days. By my count, the last digest dropped below 50% real content. Is this the beginning of the end? This forum has always stayed on topic, and I, for one, appreciate that discipline. What say you? Dennis Bell Seattle ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:48:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: SRAM cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Yes, we have about 4000 used 1.5 meg rechargeable SRAM cards. Don't = even > know if they are still any good. I have been testing out some of these cards and they seem to be fine. = The battery is supposedly rechargeable and charges when the card is in the = palmtop. All of the cards I have tested (6) still had their original data on = arrival, so the batteries hold a charge fairly well. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:13:10 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: fluff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Bell" To: > Is this the beginning of the end? Boredom has set in... Everybody has their LX running just the way they want it. Few newcomers, the old cronies swap stories, the wannebes throw flame bait and the nerds complain about the signal/noise ratio. Nobody shows up with a new GP, www/lx, pim, phone tapper, rocket launcher or whatever. Let's see if the programming related requests deliver anything... :-) Something related: It's so quiet on the Libretto list that people are forging other people's mail to check if the list is down... br Franklin (nerdy wannabe a crony) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:33:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Chris Lott wrote: > Something is nagging me about this question. Are you sure that the > message you refer to above isn't just a normal part of the FORMAT > command's operation? Seems like when you format the A: drive, normally > a floppy on most systems, you will get such a prompt. What happens > when you reply in the affirmative, i.e., that you have "inserted > drive A:"? Chris, FORMAT is looking for a valid copy of the boot files to copy to the A: drive. If you run FORMAT while on A:, or from a drive that is not the boot drive, it will prompt you to put a system disk in A:. Since the LX boots from D:, to avoid the message (if at all possible) change to the D: drive and issue FORMAT a: /s. As was discussed before, the required files may still not exist due to the DOS-in-ROM. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:32:08 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: fluuff In-Reply-To: <383317551.979223945534.JavaMail.root@web575-ec.mail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 11.01.2001, 16:26, Dennis Bell wrote: > This forum has always stayed on topic, and I, > for one, appreciate that discipline. I also noticed this remarkable rise. We had a discussion about this some months ago. Since people claimed that they need this list for their discussions, my solution was to change to the free mail provider gmx to read the list. With gmx, you're able to filter unwanted message on the server, e.g. all the messages with "fluff". I don't delete them, but I move them to a server directory "unwanted messages" (just out of curiosity), where they are deleted after two weeks. After this filtering is done, I download the messages normally via pop. But I see that this is no solution for the 'digesters'. Maybe the fluffies act after your response... Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:46:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Feldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Feldman Subject: Re fluff Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dennis. Wow - do I have to agree. This list is completely out of control (in my opinion). Religion, politics, "Fluff" has become a license to rant. The HP has taken a back seat to all the other discussions. I really wish someone would get control of this list, and return it to it's intended purpose (presumably to discuss the HP palmtop). Larry Dennis Bell wrote: > > > I am dismayed to see the fluff content rising > higher and higher these days. By my count, the > last digest dropped below 50% real content. > > Is this the beginning of the end? > > This forum has always stayed on topic, and I, > for one, appreciate that discipline. > > What say you? > > Dennis Bell > Seattle > =============================================================== LFeldman@USA.com Listowner: Submini-L: The Subminiature Photography Mailing List ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:05:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: Re fluff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This list is composed of highly intelligent, technical people from all over the world. I really value being able to bounce thoughts and ideas around such a diverse collection of people. I know it's not the true mission of the hp lx list but I hope some accommodation can be made that pleases everyone. Best Regards, Tom Salwasser ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Feldman To: Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 9:46 AM Subject: Re fluff > > Dennis. > > Wow - do I have to agree. This list is completely out of control (in my > opinion). Religion, politics, "Fluff" has become a license to rant. The HP > has taken a back seat to all the other discussions. I really wish someone > would get control of this list, and return it to it's intended purpose > (presumably to discuss the HP palmtop). > > Larry > > Dennis Bell wrote: > > > > > > I am dismayed to see the fluff content rising > > higher and higher these days. By my count, the > > last digest dropped below 50% real content. > > > > Is this the beginning of the end? > > > > This forum has always stayed on topic, and I, > > for one, appreciate that discipline. > > > > What say you? > > > > Dennis Bell > > Seattle > > > > =============================================================== > LFeldman@USA.com > Listowner: Submini-L: The Subminiature Photography Mailing List > > > ______________________________________________ > FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com > Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 07:55:50 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: SRAM cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << > Yes, we have about 4000 used 1.5 meg rechargeable SRAM cards. Don't even > know if they are still any good. I have been testing out some of these cards and they seem to be fine. The battery is supposedly rechargeable and charges when the card is in the palmtop. All of the cards I have tested (6) still had their original data on arrival, so the batteries hold a charge fairly well. >> I see the dilemma. On one hand, SRAM cards (even with modest capacity) still get a decent price (ebay, cnet), tho I'm not sure who uses them ... so 4000 would be a significant asset to Thaddeus. Normal 1-2mb SRAM seem to sell for between $50-$100. OTOH, since the card batteries are rechargeable (good) but in a non-removeable case (bad) and since rechargeables have a limited number of charges (very bad), and these having been used for 5 years (more bad), they're essentially a disposable item, which reduces the value. The question for any purchaser is not how well it holds its charge now, but how well it holds the charge (and your data) tomorrow. Maybe Thaddeus should just keep them and use them to distribute software to palmtop customers? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:53:02 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nvassoc@ATTGLOBAL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan R Leipper Subject: Fluff Re: Mhz RF field and 12V DC testing Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud In-Reply-To: <013101c07b95$24031820$cc85fcc1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > or sterility/infertility from your laptop on your lap? I have heard that heat will reduce sperm count and some of the newer=20= laptops can get rather warm under surfaces, but RF? Diathermy at=20 microwatts? As far as I know, the primary health effects are due to=20 ionizing radiation and that seems to require a sufficient dose to=20 overcome natural recovery processes. Do you know of any physiological=20= mechanisms from RF other than heat or ionization? But then there is the emotional factor. And the mind can do strange=20 things to health. Perhaps a fear or worry would be sufficient to=20 create a sterility/infertility problem that someone could blame on the=20= portable device? (and, if in the U.S., start a class action lawsuit=20 ...) > i assume the HPLX adapter can be faulty and carry high voltage due to = the > primary coils reduction in windings after an accidental drop? This is possible (although I think very unlikely) and it would not be=20= kind to your palmtop. I would think the most likely error mode would=20= be power supply failure.=20 Of course, someone could make it a practice to use a 'tongue test' on=20= the adapter before applying it to the palmtop. This way they could=20 sacrifice themselves to protect their palmtop ! Sometimes I think the ruckus over repetitive motion problems (carpal=20= tunnel etc) is because of frustration over not finding other sources=20= of evil from these modern machines.=20 The psychology could be fascinating. As you have probably observed, we=20= have a rather special group of folks here in the matters of things of=20= the mind so these kinds of problems likely reside elsewhere. --=20 Bryan K1CD/7 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:57:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Christopher Blackmon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Christopher Blackmon Organization: Nortel Networks Subject: Re: Fluff: Re: Largest aircraft ever Comments: To: etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the Mrija had a longer fuselage (276 ft) than the Spruce Goose (219 ft), but had smaller wingspan. (Mrija: 290 ft, Spruce Goose: 319.92 ft). The Mrija had a Wing Area of 9740 square feet... while the Spruce Goose had a wing area of 11,430 square feet. The Spruce Goose had 8 Pratt & Whitney R-4360's and were the largest radial reciprocating engines ever built. So in choosing the Largest aircraft ever... you'll have to specify whether you are judging the length of fuselage... or wingspan/wing area. Christopher. Feher Tamas wrote: > Hello all, > > Antonov An-225 Mrija ("Dream") > Cargo up to 250 tons, twin tail, 6 jet engines a 225kN. > Originally built to carry the Spaceky Shuttlesky (Buran) > One built, one left uncompleted due to funding shortage. > Few years ago it was busy hauling aids for Chernobyl victims from > Canada. I think, it's owned by Ukraine now. > > Sincerely: Tamas Feher > > >The russian airplane I had in mind was a freightplane. > >Don't remember its name,though. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:14:10 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 9 Jan 2001 to 10 Jan 2001 - Special issue (#2001-15) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I expected a generic source code library > -- not a compiler-specific object code library. > Does anyone have experience using this library > with other compilers and/or assemblers? > I'm currently using Borland C++ v2.0 > and TASM v2.51 on my 200LX. Will these work? > Does anyone have a copy of Microsoft C 6.0 > they'd be willing sell? In the libraries on Compuserve's HPHAND there was a file that someone put together with headers and startup files to do system manager compliant development with (I think) Turbo C 2.0. (not TC++). You might see if you can find that file on hpcalc.org. If they don't have it, I probably do have it somewhere but it could take hours to locate it. I haven't seen it in years and my archives are pretty scattered. I also have parts of Microsoft C 6.0. I think I lack the libraries for 2 of the memory models. This is a legal copy that got lost during a move but I had part of it on my palmtop at the time. Contact me at barryATfbtcDOTnet if you want to discuss that. I just spent an hour looking for that file and soon realized I don't have any idea what it's name is. Does anyone remember that file and it's name? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:18:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Dumb formatting question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The most direct application would be to try booting DOS 6.00 from the = Flash Card but again it would work only if the 200LX was reading IO.SYS and MSDOS.SYS from the flash card ... which doesn't seem to be the case. \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:10:33 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LARRY FELDMAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LARRY FELDMAN Subject: Re: Fluff Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Frankly, I respectfully disagree. There is a "time and a place". This isn= 't it. That said, the previous suggestion regarding an off-site filter was excellent. Thank you sir!! I am in the process of setting up a spam filte= r for the LX spam, and will deal with the problem that way. Larry Tom Salwasser wrote: > = > = > This list is composed of highly intelligent, technical people from all= over > the world. I really value being able to bounce thoughts and ideas aroun= d > such a diverse collection of people. I know it's not the true mission o= f the > hp lx list but I hope some accommodation can be made that pleases everyone. > = > Best Regards, > Tom Salwasser > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D LFeldman@USA.net Listowner: Submini-L: The Subminiature Photography Mailing List ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=3D1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:33:40 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 9 Jan 2001 to 10 Jan 2001 - Special issue (#2001-15) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I expected a generic source code library -- not > a compiler-specific object code library. Does > anyone have experience using this library with > other compilers and/or assemblers? I'm currently > using Borland C++ v2.0 and TASM v2.51 on my 200LX. > Will these work? Does anyone have a copy of Microsoft > C 6.0 they'd be willing sell? I found the file on hpcalc.org. On my screen the url is 2 lines long. I suspect it'll be broken up by the time you get it. But it's all there. The filename is nkit064.zip. It doesn't give a Turbo C version so I'm sure it's probably for TCC 1.0, 1.5 or 2.0. All of which can be legally downloaded from Borland's community museum for free. I wouldn't expect it to work with BCC++ since it replaces the startup files and overrides some of the library functions. It also comes with complete source code and instructions. The early Borland compilers (Turbo C) were very good but Microsoft's C had an optimizer and produced better code, so you're probably better off going that way. But Turbo C wasn't bad at all. It had an easier debugger to use but that wont work on the palmtop, especially for exm's. The only debugger I've found that does work on the palmtop is Microsoft's Symdeb. That'll work with both TCC and MSC and supports graphic changes (CGA, so that wont help with the LX, I guess). Barry http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl?dbname=nkit064.zip&URL =http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/nkit064.zip ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:08:44 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: SRAM cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hi Longden, << Yes, we have about 4000 used 1.5 meg rechargeable SRAM cards. Don't even know if they are still any good. If anyone is interested in buying them in significant quantity email me. We don't have specs on them. >> I don't see them on your website, Hal. What are you selling them for? And if you can refresh my memory, what kind of battery does it use?>> We don't have them on our web site because at this time I don't know enough about the product to feel good about selling them. Basically, they come with a rechargeable watch battery built into a case that is difficult to open without destroying it. The Dutch railroad company would put new schedules on them every week and give to their conductors. The people whom we have sent test cards to have not reported any problems, except they do have to be recharged. I have no specs as to how much recharging required, 2AA battery drain when recharging, how long they are good for, etc. However, they have been in service for as long as 5 years and seem to keep on going. As to price, I don't know. What do people think? If people are interested in quantity, email me a suggested price. If I agree, we will sell them as is. (They look warn and have Dutch Railroad label on card). I'll give anyone a week or 2 to return them if they don't seem to be what is needed and throw in a few extra on quantity orders in case some are bad.) Hal ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:24:59 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Cracked Case Replacement Availability? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I mentioned a while back that we were looking to manufacture the case part of the 200LX with the HP logo on it to fix hinge cracked cases. Long story, but it looks like it will happen (I'd prefer not to get into details, but it is the best possible solution for the end product). Also, it is likely this is the only part we will be able to obtain. The bad news is that we probably won't get them for 4 months. We are about to place our order. My question is how many of you think you might want to buy these back up cases (in what quantity) say for $25? I certainly won't hold you to it, but I want to get an idea if I should order extra to sell directly since a number of people brought up the subject last time. Hal from Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:16:40 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10-01 10:00 MET, vous avez ecrit: > The russian airplane I had in mind was a freightplane. > > Don't remember its name,though. I think you talk about the Antonov 224. I seen it once, at the Bourget's Air Show (in 1989, I think). A very, very, impressive plane. And more impressive yet, the big bird came at the show with the Russian= Space Shuttle on its back... Unfortunately (to return to HP subjects!), I was not allowed to go in t= he shuttle to see if there was a Russian equivalent of the HP-41 in the cockpit... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:04:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Hocking Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Hocking Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement Availability? I certainly won't hold you to it, but I want to get an idea if I should order extra to sell directly since a number of people brought up the subject last time. Hal, I have two backup LX's in case my primary one goes bad. My primary one has been upgraded to a 8 meg double speed, and had just recently developed the dreaded stress crack. I used a dab of regular superglue to fix the crack, and it has held so far. I had kicked around the idea of getting one of my backup units upgraded, to take the place of my primary unit, because I had a $30 coupon from your company, which was due to expire at the end of 2000. I elected not to get one of my backup units upgraded, and let the coupon go to waste. My reasoning is that eventually something has to come along that will do what I need it to do, that will replace my dependence upon my LX. Maybe I am being hopeful, but with the technology constantly evolving, I am hopeful that this will happen. I use my LX to manage my diabetes, and without it, it would make managing it very difficult. I use the database to store all the stats of all the foods that enter my mouth, and then use 123 to record, and automatically calculate the insulin I need to inject. I have seen a lot of the palm units, but they don't seem to be able to do what I need yet, plus I don't want to have to type by writing with a stylus in a little box, I would rather have a small keyboard. Someday I am hoping that the laptops, or sub-notebooks get small enough to carry around with me. I am most sorry that the LX backlighting project failed, I have a difficult time sometimes seeing my LX when I am in poorly lit conditions, such as a restaurant eating, and I am not interested in an outside light source, I would rather use the small mini-mag flashlight I carry in my planner if I had to. I am hoping that one of these days, you will review a true replacement to our LX's in your magazine, and I would jump on it, no matter what it costs. My last laptop set me back over two grand, so I don't mind spending the money on hardware, if it would serve my needs. Best Regards, Robert Hocking ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:26:31 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , JonEarye Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JonEarye Subject: Re: Fluff : Airbus & Co (Was : Democracy in America) Comments: To: Jacques Belin In-Reply-To: <200101101900.UAA30498@ernesto.ras.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NO MORE FLUFF -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Jacques Belin Sent: 10 January 2001 07:35 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Fluff : Airbus & Co (Was : Democracy in America) On 09-01 19:38 MET, vous avez ecrit: > And can we leave this thread on that positive note? Not yet ! I will even join this thread with another from a few days... Remember when we discussed about countries sizes ? Well, there is another point where USA don't have any supremacy, and have even bought foreign products for its internal market. Strangely, it is a techology you could suppose be logicaly dominated by gigantic countries (USA, Australia...) but is ruled by small ones : France and Japan. Its about high speed trains. USA don't possess this technology, and some years ago, one state (Texas ?) had to buy France's TGV... A+ Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:34:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: 200lx repairs Comments: To: Sotiros MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sotiros wrote:
>He is bull headed and only wants the 200lx.

Smart Kid!!!!!!!!!!

>Please help my son and I come to a decision.

Whether to repair or upgrade?  Repair...the upgrade would be useless unless the unit is repaired.

By the way...he wouldn't happen to have the hp support pack still in effect would he?

P. S The backlighting is DOA from what I understand.
 
  ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:40:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff why this list is as great as America Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > in face of the end of the printed Palmtop Paper. This brings up an interesting question....what happened to the electronic version of the palmtop paper? I signed up for it a long time ago and have received nothing. Has anything been e-mailed? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:45:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff why this list is as great as America Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > 1. Regard all racial and sexual minorities as sacrosanct and refrain from > any criticism of them. > Be careful who you call a minority...whites in the U.S. now make up 49% of the population so they now are a minority!!!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:56:54 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , JonEarye Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JonEarye Subject: Re: 200lx repairs Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A5E0ADA.ABAAFC85@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C07C08.A57A1D40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C07C08.A57A1D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit repair -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Ken London Sent: 11 January 2001 11:35 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: 200lx repairs Sotiros wrote: >He is bull headed and only wants the 200lx. Smart Kid!!!!!!!!!! >Please help my son and I come to a decision. Whether to repair or upgrade? Repair...the upgrade would be useless unless the unit is repaired. By the way...he wouldn't happen to have the hp support pack still in effect would he? P. S The backlighting is DOA from what I understand. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C07C08.A57A1D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
repair
 ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C07C08.A57A1D40-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:52:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > >> America's weakness is that half the voters are below average in > >> intelligence, Considering the clowns we elect to public office maybe 95% of the population is below average!!!!!!!!! I have no clue as to why we accept such mediocrity in our elected officials. The U.S. has a huge population...yet Bush and Gore are the best we can do?????????? A cockroach has more intelligence then these 2 clowns. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:56:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Robert K. Meyer" wrote: > How many CS or EE degrees are coming from Japan, > China, India, etc. Alot of their knowledge is coming from people who were educated in the U.S. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:17:06 -0500 Reply-To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Subject: Forwarding E-mail Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have purchased a Magellan GSC 100. It is a combination GPS and satellite transceiver for e-mail from anywhere in the world. Retail: $1,200, Street: $900. I bought it at Ebay for $250. See magellangps.com and mysatmail.com for details. When the satellite cannot see a ground station and me at the same time, it switches to a mode called "store and forward". In this mode, I can only send to one e-mail address at a time from the unit. Which bring me to the following question. I need to know if there is a way to send an e-mail to another e-mail account and then to have that second e-mail account automatically forward the original e-mail to a number of other e-mail addresses? TIA, Cliff Crittenden Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:19:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Fluff why this list is as great as America Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken London" To: Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Fluff why this list is as great as America > > 1. Regard all racial and sexual minorities as sacrosanct and refrain from > > any criticism of them. > > Be careful who you call a minority...whites in the U.S. now make up 49% of the > population so they now are a minority!!!! Umm . . . you mean that 49% whites and 51% non-whites makes whites a minority? Please review the math. Or perhaps the boxes (whites vs non-whites). Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:23:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Forwarding E-mail Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:17:06 -0500, Cliff Crittenden wrote: > Which bring me to the following question. I need to know if there is a way to send an e-mail to another e-mail account and then to have that second e-mail account automatically forward the original e-mail to a number of other e-mail addresses? You need a .forward file Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- -- Republicans -> http://HillaryHell.com -- -- Democrats -> http://Hillary2K4.com -- -- Explosion? -> http://ReadyToExplode.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:27:37 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Subject: Newbie programmer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi, I would like to start programming on the Hp 200lx, my problem is that I have very limited programming skils: BASIC(many, many years ago) and some HTML(Which is not strictly programming). Which programming language should I start with?(C, C++, Pascal,etc.) Where can I get some tutorials(online), or where can I buy some good books(and which books)? I have used computers for many years but have never gotten to programming because I didn't know where to start from. Thanks, Inigo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 15:26:50 -0500 Reply-To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Subject: Looking for a parallel cable: HP to Pocketjet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is anyone still making custom cables? I have a transdigital pc card that provides a parallel port and would like to have a cable made to connect directly from the card to a Pentax Pocketjet printer. TIA, Cliff Crittenden Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:29:07 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: SC on Omnibook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends I'm planning to use an Omnibook 430 as a companion to my 200LX for more CPU-intensive work. Now I'm considering using the same CF card for both devices with the same software and the same setup (maybe a few little things dependant on the environment, like not using 200LX-specific utilitites like LXPro when booting on the Omnibook with the CF). Now comes my question: Does anyone know if the palmtop version of Software Carousel will work on the Omnibook? Has anyone ever tried to do this thing I described above? GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:04:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Batson, Dale N" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Batson, Dale N" Subject: Re: Newbie programmer MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Where can I get some tutorials(online)? Try this link: http://www.astentech.com/tutorials ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:00:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Double speed HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <> I believe HP did sell a company a large order of 2speed palmtops in Asia. Don't know/remember any of the details. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:42:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: SC on Omnibook Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << I'm planning to use an Omnibook 430 as a companion to my 200LX for more CPU-intensive work. Now I'm considering using the same CF card for both devices with the same software and the same setup (maybe a few little things dependant on the environment, like not using 200LX-specific utilitites like LXPro when booting on the Omnibook with the CF). Now comes my question: Does anyone know if the palmtop version of Software Carousel will work on the Omnibook? Has anyone ever tried to do this thing I described above? >> You'll obviously lose the functionality of the LX blue keys. The OB has hot keys also, but they're entirely Windows-driven. You'll find out that the LX blue keys account for a lot of its versatility as a PIM. Sounds like an interesting experiment, tho I wonder if the task swapping capabilities and virtual memory of Windows 3.1 might be more robust than SC. I could see the synergy in having the same look and feel on both platforms (as long as you remember which one to put in your pocket ). Sorry, I've never tried this before, nor do I own SC ... tho I do have a 430/530/800 and 200LX. I swap the LX card between all the machines, but mostly to share data. Some apps are usable on all machines (LXPIC, vi/vim, PowerC, Derive), and I switch depending on the need (ie, I use the 530 to demonstrate a math solution to my kids in Derive cuz it's easier to see ... and faster ... than on the LX). Call your approach a "scalable architecture" . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:12:53 +0000 Reply-To: neil@skipper.org.uk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Tungate Organization: Home for Geriatric Collies Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 13:48:14 -0600, Jeff wrote: >Doesn't Airbus have a terrible safety record as compared to Boeing and >other major manufacturers? No. They make fine, world-class aircraft. --=20 Neil Tungate Team 200LX UK ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:13:02 +0000 Reply-To: neil@skipper.org.uk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Tungate Organization: Home for Geriatric Collies Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010109114936.01b32250@mail.alwaysafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 9 Jan 2001 11:51:19 -0800, A Meshar wrote: >The article quoted was from the 70s! I don't believe Airbus was in >existence then(?) . BA and Air France were designing/building the = ill-fated >Concorde.. Still, it takes multiple countries to do this. The USa has = two >or three, and had more in the 70s. A good point - the world's first, and only, commercial supersonic = aircraft was a British/French joint project. And it looks like it will be back in service if the proposed = modifications are acceptable to the relevant authorities :) --=20 Neil Tungate Team 200LX UK ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:43:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff why this list is as great as America Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-V MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > Umm . . . you mean that 49% whites and 51% non-whites makes whites a > minority? Please review the math. Or perhaps the boxes (whites vs > non-whites). Last time I looked 49% was less than 50% and that you needed 51% to have a majority. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:52:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: SC on Omnibook Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > Sounds like an interesting experiment, tho I wonder if the task swapping > capabilities and virtual memory of Windows 3.1 might be more robust than SC. Sorry....SC doesn't crash as much as Win 3.1 did. SC won't give you the blue screen of death. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:15:57 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: test driving PNR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In the next few weeks, I will be test driving PNR which I understand is not an easy task to setup. Right at the very beginning, I'm already stuck on something supposedly very basic to set up. Since PNR uses a number of scripts and batch files, this discussion may take a while and would probably bore the majority of the members. It may be wise if list members using PNR could contact me off list concerning setting up the script and batch files. Thanks in advance. Oliver bud@mindgate.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:00:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Fluff: Voting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This note was from CNBC: Unisys, Dell Computer and Microsoft announced that they are teaming up to develop a new technology for voting that will eliminate the ambiguities that threw the Presidential election into limbo last fall. Presumably the new system will be digital and online. My question...will it automatically register your vote for Bill Gates for President? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:05:25 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Newbie programmer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota says: >>I would like to start programming on the Hp 200lx, my problem is that I have...<< Goto www.PalmtopPaper.com and in the archives perform a search for Programming. That should reveal several articles by myself and other programmers about the variety of languages that will work on the LX and the pros and cons of each. The LX allows for everything from DOS batch files programming to creating sophisticated Lotus macros, standalone .EXE and System Manager Compliant programs. All of this is spelled out in past articles from The HP Palmtop Paper. .ed.ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:40:53 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 200lx repairs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> Now the question is...............does it make sense to repair the unit for some $125.00 plus shipping......and do the upgrade. I believe the speed doubler and 32 megs is something like $150.00. That puts the cost in the area of $275.00. <<<<<<<<< $275 is a good price for a speed doulbled 200lx with 32 meg. And he knows how it's been cared for by the owner. And, what is a better alternative? Are you really sure it's a hardware problem? I've never heard anyone describe symptoms quite like you described. It might be worth doing a backup and ctrl-alt-on and let it clear memory, with no card in the card slot. Then see what it does. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:56:42 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement Availability? Comments: To: hal_goldstein@thaddeus.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/01 1:23:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM writes: << My question is how many of you think you might want to buy these back up cases (in what quantity) say for $25? >> Hal: I'd buy one, just to be sure I would have a spare part on the shelf in case my --OK so far-- hinge cracks. However, as long as Thaddeus is around, I'd probably just send it to you for repair instead. As they say: "Stick to your knitting". Bill P.S. You & Thaddeus are great!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:59:45 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<<<< However your premise *is* cooly rational - that half are under the average intelligence, and half over it >>>>>>> Isn't that actually true of the mean? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:05:19 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Nathalie, simply to make a point. That point being: Those who live in >glass houses shouldn't throw stones! i.e.: Let he/she who is without sin >cast the first stone. I've always wondered why Christians encourage people without sin to throw stones. That seems rather perverse. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:25:43 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terry Livingston Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Livingston Subject: Omnibook 800 CT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C07C04.4A0DB6A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C07C04.4A0DB6A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Was wondering if anyone noticed the 800 CT prices on ebay. = Seems like they have come down quite a bit, are this the same ones that = sold for 400 to 500 dollars a while back. I was looking at picking up a = laptop to do some things the 200lx can't do and these sound pretty good. = Let me know what you all think, I know there are a lot of omnibookers = (?) out there. 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        =20 Was wondering if anyone noticed the 800 CT prices on ebay.  Seems = like they=20 have come down quite a bit, are this the same ones that sold for 400 to = 500=20 dollars a while back.  I was looking at picking up a laptop to do = some=20 things the 200lx can't do and these sound pretty good.  Let me know = what=20 you all think, I know there are a lot of omnibookers (?) out = there.
Thanks
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C07C04.4A0DB6A0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:45:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D80B00CF827B24873A90387A" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D80B00CF827B24873A90387A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > which brings me to SETI@home - have you joined? Actually, yes, I have! It has fascinating possibilities, doesn't it! Regards, Richard --------------D80B00CF827B24873A90387A Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="seronac.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard and Patti Smith Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="seronac.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://seronac.freeservers.com/ adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:seronac@freeport.com fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------D80B00CF827B24873A90387A-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 02:37:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Fluff : Airbus & Co (Was : Democracy in America) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, JonEarye wrote: > NO MORE FLUFF I agree. People are abusing the FLUFF subject designator (intended for _occasional_ pieces of fluff!) and using it as an excuse to post jyst about anything on the list. This is still called the "HPLX Mailing List", please try to keep it down a bit (I would normally say a lot, but these days even a little would help ;-) and take the discussions of air transportaiton, minorities (whether it takes 49% or not), etc. off the list. Either that or have Al Kind change the list's name to something more appropriate, like "Fluff and (if you're lucky) HPLX Mailing List"... Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:41:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Re fluff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> This list is composed of highly intelligent, technical people from all over the world. I really value being able to bounce thoughts and ideas around such a diverse collection of people. I know it's not the true mission of the hp lx list but I hope some accommodation can be made that pleases everyone. <<<<<<<<<<< I think that's a big part of it. At least in my case. I think it's also true that there isn't as much new stuff to talk about anymore. I've always enjoyed reading off-topic messages in newsgroups and listserves, but I'm usually not a participant beyond an occasional quip. But I find myself wanting to respond to the jibes in this list. There isn't much serious business anymore and the fluff is really pretty interesting stuff. And using the word fluff, as someone mentioned, does seem like a license, relieving the guilt. I guess, even though I'm a big part of the problem, I agree that it's not good. But I'm not sure the real solution is just not to do it anymore. I think a better solution might be to make a concious effort to find on-topic things to talk about. Someone suggested that we talk about programming. Since I retired I haven't done a lot of programming and a lot of what I have done has been on the Palm and Windows, and I haven't really enjoyed that much. Recently I started organizing a 200lx to make a good programming platform, thinking that as I did so I'd come up with a project for myself. But I haven't. In the past that's never been a problem. Maybe what we need is a group project, ala Pal. Not another Pal. We already have that. What we need is something that either would be generally useful, or generally enjoyed. A tool or a game. I think a tool would be a better fit on this list. I think it should be something that we could get some use from in it's early stages but will be a large enough project to keep a group busy for a while. Also, it would be nice if non-programmers could participate either by learning a little programming with the help of the programmers. We have good tools available that will make that fairly easy. Non-programmers can also be beta testers and kibitzers. Nathalie can pester us. Our Pal Al could write the documentation. A communications program might not be a good project since not everyone has the same facilities available. Or, if communications it be, it needs to be able to be divided into parts that will let those without access to whatever it's going to commicate with still have a chance to participate. Pal is probably a good tool to use for whatever this might be, but for those who are allergic to GUI's, maybe it shouldn't be restricted to the use of Pal. Modular design might provide sub-projects to suit any taste, depending on the project. Are there any ideas? Lx Office? Quake for the lx? A LinuX clone? Power Mac emulation? Flight Sim lx? The Sims lx? Lx Turbo Tax? 3D Studio Max lx? Autocad lx? The possibities are only limited by our abilities, but there must be something we can pull off. I remember when everybody was working together on Pal on HPHAND. There was a lot of interest in it by everyone, not just the programmers on the project. Anyway, those are some of my first thoughts. What do you think? And, if you don't like the idea, what's your idea? I think we need a group project of some sort. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:59:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Rechargable SRAM cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The question for any purchaser is not how > well it holds its charge now, but how well it > holds the charge (and your data) tomorrow. I have 3 Radio Shack model 100's, a Model 102 and a Model 200. They stopped making these in 1986, I think. They use a Nicad that run the unit and the 4 AA batteries just keep the Nicad charged. One of the problems is that when the Nicad dies, you can't turn the unit off without losing everything. I've run into people with that problem on listserves. But it's not a common problem. All of mine are still fine. Additionaly I have a bunch of Radio Shack HiCap Nicads that I bought about 10 years ago and another bunch I bought 5 years ago when I needed more. These are both AA and C size and I have about 40 or 50 of them altogether. I've abused them badly, overcharging them with cheap chargers a lot, sometimes letting them go totally dead and stay that way for a few months. But each and every one still holds a charge just fine. I really suspect that Nicads have a much longer life than people expect. Especially if you abuse them. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:12:48 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: LX spare cases MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> My question is how many of you think you might want to buy these back up cases (in what quantity) say for $25? I certainly won't hold you to it, but I want to get an idea if I should order extra to sell directly since a number of people brought up the subject last time. <<<<< Is that just the top of the case? How difficult is it to install? My eyesight isnt that great. If it would be pretty easy to install I'd be interested in getting one. I suspect that your best sales on those will come the day you anounce that you're no longer repairing lx's. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:26:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: test driving PNR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Oliver Chua writes: > In the next few weeks, I will be test driving PNR which I understand is not > an easy task to setup. Right at the very beginning, I'm already stuck on > something supposedly very basic to set up. Since PNR uses a number of > scripts and batch files, this discussion may take a while and would > probably bore the majority of the members. It may be wise if list members > using PNR could contact me off list concerning setting up the script and > batch files. Thanks in advance. I have posted an instruction outline at: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/LXTCP.html Have a look and feel free to contact me with questions. Either on or off list is fine. Actually, on list wold help raise the signal to noise ratio. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:27:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America > > > As for USA:s spaceproject,wsasn't it the > > > german Werner von Braun who build that up? > > > > Yes! And now you've spotted our strength. > > We steal the best? > > We give asylum to Nazi's we can use and execute the rest? > > We ignore Cuba but cozzy up to China? > > We are human and fallible like everyone else? We're diverse. We attract talent and courage and strength. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:17:45 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Fluff: LX Survives Impact MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff wrote: > I'm fine :-) The good Lord put an angel at the driver's door and both the > vehicles that hit me missed hitting the door . we are all relieved no harm came to you because of the angel, but, why did the good Lord send you the vehicles in the first place? Nathalie * my greatest ambition - to help unravel the secrets of the universe - * * is constantly being abused and frustrated by my need to pay the rent * ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:19:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Fluff: Electrifying stories... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Andrew can probably power his LX directly by putting his right finger >into the AC port . >- Longden how long would he have to stay there for a full charge? - Nathalie ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:31:19 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Fluff: LX Survives Impact In-Reply-To: <00ba01c07c47$a7528820$f185fcc1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > the good Lord send you the vehicles in the first place? God will never send more your way than you can handle. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:32:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court cases inUSA. Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200101111426.JAA10334@spdmraab.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Vic - >Car and "bag" phones generate 5 watts. Portable cell phones generate >0.6 watts or less. (OK, the very old and very large "portable" cell >phones did generate about 3 watts, but they are very rare. I thought car phones maxed at 3, bag phones mostly at 1.2. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:00:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Fluff why this list is as great as America Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A5E0D5F.D2B8D771@beld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > 1. Regard all racial and sexual minorities as sacrosanct and refrain from >> any criticism of them. >> > >Be careful who you call a minority...whites in the U.S. now make up 49% of the >population so they now are a minority!!!! I heard a report on the radio today, referring (I think) to New York schools, stating that 80% of the students were minorities.... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:02:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <000b01c07c2a$92d6df80$07fd36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >>However your premise *is* cooly rational - that half are under the >>average intelligence, and half over it > >Isn't that actually true of the mean? Average IS "the mean". And no, it is NOT reliably true of the mean, only of the MEDIAN. The median is *defined* as that value which has half of the values larger and half smaller. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:02:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Fluff: Electrifying stories... Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200101111426.JAA10314@spdmraab.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I purchased one on eBay >>last August to show the class I was teaching the dangers of >>electricity. how boring why not make your hair stand up on end instead? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:02:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement Availability? Comments: To: Hal Goldstein In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>to place our order. My question is how many of you think you might want to >>buy these back up cases (in what quantity) say for $25? I'm in ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:21:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement, I'd like 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Subject: Cracked Case Replacement Availability? > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:24:59 -0600 > From: Hal Goldstein > >I mentioned a while back that we were looking to manufacture the case part >of the 200LX with the HP logo on it to fix hinge cracked cases. Long story, >but it looks like it will happen. >The bad news is that we probably won't get them for 4 months. We are about >to place our order. My question is how many of you think you might want to >buy these back up cases (in what quantity) say for $25? >Hal from Thaddeus Hal Please sign me up for 2 Cracked Case Replacements The palmtop may not be the latest thing but it does what I want and I dread having to change platforms and climb that learning curve again.. Thanks for your support -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:24:11 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement Availability? Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I certainly won't hold you to it, but I want to get an idea if I should > order extra to sell directly since a number of people brought up the subject > last time. At least one. Good going Hal. Fred ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:24:26 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: InfoSelect TSR Question Comments: To: scotts@tovax.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >>>Anybody have a clue on how to export the *.wd files in a neat, organized > text file(s) for import into a wordprocesssor - without having all the info > packed so tightly? Exporting with breaks for each window would be great! <<< > > Use Adjust (a) -> > Print (p) -> > 13 down arrows should get you to PRINT TO A FILE, set it to yes (!) if it is > not set to yes already -> > down arrow again to FILE TO PRINT TO and give it one -> > Press ESC twice -> > Hit Print (p) -> > and type in the number of "windows" in the file. Thanks for a great idea that hopefully the recesses of my mind will recall altho, I did run through it and it works on my version. Now that those recesses have been exercised, do I remember that IS could also split notes on, was it a line of dashes or something like that? That might lead to a way of loading a db of sorts into IS. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:24:39 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Re fluff Comments: To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > This list is composed of highly intelligent, technical people from all over > the world. I really value being able to bounce thoughts and ideas around > such a diverse collection of people. Why, thank you, Tom. I won't test your good will by mentioning my diverse "liberal" politics! (gd&r) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:24:44 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fluff: Voting Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > teaming up to develop a new technology for voting that will > eliminate the ambiguities that threw the Presidential election > > My question...will it automatically register your vote for Bill Gates > for President? That would eliminate any ambiguity. Of course, if we want an ambiguous reference it could be B*.G* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:33:38 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Re fluff Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's an idea: A WAP viewer for the LX. People who want to see HTML can get it through Google.com or DigitalPath... Simple, useful. Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 5:41 PM Subject: Re: Re fluff > >>>>> This list is composed of highly intelligent, technical people > from all over the world. I really value being able to bounce > thoughts and ideas around such a diverse collection of people. I > know it's not the true mission of the hp lx list but I hope some > accommodation can be made that pleases everyone. <<<<<<<<<<< > > I think that's a big part of it. At least in my case. I think it's > also true that there isn't as much new stuff to talk about anymore. > > I've always enjoyed reading off-topic messages in newsgroups and > listserves, but I'm usually not a participant beyond an occasional > quip. But I find myself wanting to respond to the jibes in this > list. There isn't much serious business anymore and the fluff is > really pretty interesting stuff. > > And using the word fluff, as someone mentioned, does seem like a > license, relieving the guilt. > > I guess, even though I'm a big part of the problem, I agree that > it's not good. But I'm not sure the real solution is just not to do > it anymore. I think a better solution might be to make a concious > effort to find on-topic things to talk about. > > Someone suggested that we talk about programming. Since I retired I > haven't done a lot of programming and a lot of what I have done has > been on the Palm and Windows, and I haven't really enjoyed that > much. Recently I started organizing a 200lx to make a good > programming platform, thinking that as I did so I'd come up with a > project for myself. But I haven't. In the past that's never been a > problem. > > Maybe what we need is a group project, ala Pal. Not another Pal. > We already have that. What we need is something that either would > be generally useful, or generally enjoyed. A tool or a game. I > think a tool would be a better fit on this list. > > I think it should be something that we could get some use from in > it's early stages but will be a large enough project to keep a group > busy for a while. > > Also, it would be nice if non-programmers could participate either > by learning a little programming with the help of the programmers. > We have good tools available that will make that fairly easy. > Non-programmers can also be beta testers and kibitzers. Nathalie > can pester us. Our Pal Al could write the documentation. > > A communications program might not be a good project since not > everyone has the same facilities available. Or, if communications > it be, it needs to be able to be divided into parts that will let > those without access to whatever it's going to commicate with still > have a chance to participate. > > Pal is probably a good tool to use for whatever this might be, but > for those who are allergic to GUI's, maybe it shouldn't be > restricted to the use of Pal. Modular design might provide > sub-projects to suit any taste, depending on the project. > > Are there any ideas? Lx Office? Quake for the lx? A LinuX clone? > Power Mac emulation? Flight Sim lx? The Sims lx? Lx Turbo Tax? > 3D Studio Max lx? Autocad lx? The possibities are only limited by > our abilities, but there must be something we can pull off. > > I remember when everybody was working together on Pal on HPHAND. > There was a lot of interest in it by everyone, not just the > programmers on the project. > > Anyway, those are some of my first thoughts. What do you think? > > And, if you don't like the idea, what's your idea? I think we need > a group project of some sort. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:28:31 -0800 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: USER 1 Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement Availability? Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hal Goldstein wrote: > > I mentioned a while back that we were looking to manufacture the case part > of the 200LX with the HP logo on it to fix hinge cracked cases. Long story, > but it looks like it will happen (I'd prefer not to get into details, but it > is the best possible solution for the end product). Also, it is likely this > is the only part we will be able to obtain. > > The bad news is that we probably won't get them for 4 months. We are about > to place our order. My question is how many of you think you might want to > buy these back up cases (in what quantity) say for $25? > > I certainly won't hold you to it, but I want to get an idea if I should > order extra to sell directly since a number of people brought up the subject > last time. > > Hal from Thaddeus > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Sound good Hal $25.00 IS NOT TO BAD. -------Bob Elliott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:37:56 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Cameron Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Cameron Organization: None Subject: DECIMATE utility for archiving backups MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some of us keep multiple versions of backups on our flash cards, like ten of them, with a batch file that discards the oldest when creating a new one. I've just done a little utility which will delete one of them in such a way that your more recent backups will still be closely spaced, but the oldest ones can be very old. It does this by deleting one of the ten in a random way, so that the age spacing of the backups will get progressively farther apart. You can vary the way it chooses to delete them, but the way I do it my ten backups will be 0, 1, 2, 4, 7, 11, 17, 26, 38, and 56 backup cycles old (instead of the oldest being 9 cycles old). You would use it in a batch file like this: c: cd \_dat dbcheck phone.pdb appt.adb notes.ndb if errorlevel 2 goto error a: cd \backup decimate backup zip 1 9 0.3 pkzip -r -P -i- -x@exclude.txt backup0.zip c:\*.* :error If anyone is interested, you can download it from http://members.aol.com/freewhl44/lxgames.html . C source is included. -- Curtis Cameron WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:03:38 -0800 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: USER 1 Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement Availability? Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hal Goldstein wrote: > > I mentioned a while back that we were looking to manufacture the case part > of the 200LX with the HP logo on it to fix hinge cracked cases. Long story, > but it looks like it will happen (I'd prefer not to get into details, but it > is the best possible solution for the end product). Also, it is likely this > is the only part we will be able to obtain. > > The bad news is that we probably won't get them for 4 months. We are about > to place our order. My question is how many of you think you might want to > buy these back up cases (in what quantity) say for $25? > > I certainly won't hold you to it, but I want to get an idea if I should > order extra to sell directly since a number of people brought up the subject > last time. > > Hal from Thaddeus > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml COUNT ME IN HAL I WILL TAKE ONE. -------BOB ELLIOTT JR ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:53:55 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: Fluff why this list is as great as America Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Ken London wrote: > Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > > > Umm . . . you mean that 49% whites and 51% > non-whites makes whites a > > minority? Please review the math. Or > perhaps the boxes (whites vs > > non-whites). > > Last time I looked 49% was less than 50% and > that you needed 51% to have a > majority. > Dis is roket scientist math.... 49% is larga den any udda grp. witch makes it a MAJORITEE. yu pal al............. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:37:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff: Voting Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20010112042441.KEVF6585.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@worldne t.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed COMPLY! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE! At 1/12/01 +0000, you wrote: > > teaming up to develop a new technology for voting that will > > eliminate the ambiguities that threw the Presidential election > > > > My question...will it automatically register your vote for Bill Gates > > for President? > >That would eliminate any ambiguity. Of course, if we want an ambiguous >reference it could be B*.G* > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:36:24 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff: LX Survives Impact Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud In-Reply-To: <00ba01c07c47$a7528820$f185fcc1@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Nathalie, At 1/12/01 +0100, you wrote: >Jeff wrote: > > I'm fine :-) The good Lord put an angel at the driver's door and both the > > vehicles that hit me missed hitting the door . > >we are all relieved no harm came to you because of the angel, but, why did >the good Lord send you the vehicles in the first place? For a heathen and an agnostic (at best) you are so awfully uninformed! :-) The good Lord sent Jeff there to test him, don't you see this? :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:47:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian McIlvaine Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: Re: Omnibook 800 CT Comments: To: Terry Livingston In-Reply-To: <000a01c07c47$58f2c000$3e432bd1@docliv> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C07C6B.E54E4230" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C07C6B.E54E4230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terry - For a bit more money you can get better performance (and MUCH better battery life) with a Libretto - I'd recommend the 100CT Brian -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Terry Livingston Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 22:26 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Omnibook 800 CT Hi all, Was wondering if anyone noticed the 800 CT prices on ebay. Seems like they have come down quite a bit, are this the same ones that sold for 400 to 500 dollars a while back. I was looking at picking up a laptop to do some things the 200lx can't do and these sound pretty good. Let me know what you all think, I know there are a lot of omnibookers (?) out there. Thanks Terry ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C07C6B.E54E4230 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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 For a bit more money you can get better = performance (and MUCH better battery life) with a Libretto - I'd = recommend the=20 100CT
 
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Hi all,
        =20 Was wondering if anyone noticed the 800 CT prices on ebay.  Seems = like=20 they have come down quite a bit, are this the same ones that sold for = 400 to=20 500 dollars a while back.  I was looking at picking up a laptop = to do=20 some things the 200lx can't do and these sound pretty good.  Let = me know=20 what you all think, I know there are a lot of omnibookers (?) out=20 there.
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------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C07C6B.E54E4230-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:09:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Fw: Re: Omnibook 800 CT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Hansen To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Re: Omnibook 800 CT I like the Portege 650ct I got at supersellers.net (on auction, he now sells direct) - a complete kit is about $270 (no CD-ROM), a nicer unit w/built-in CD-ROM is about $320. Add-on memory is a bit expensive (64 Meg SoDIMMs are about $100 for this unit), but the screen is nice and large, TFT color, full keyboard, real ports built-in, can take a fairly thick drive (12.7 mm high). The Librettos are nice too (I have an L50 and an L110), but not as main machines (the keyboard, lack of ports, small memory capacity, and small screen get to you after a while...) HTH, Ken PS that is www.supersellers.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian McIlvaine To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:47 AM Subject: Re: Omnibook 800 CT Terry - For a bit more money you can get better performance (and MUCH better battery life) with a Libretto - I'd recommend the 100CT Brian -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Terry Livingston Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 22:26 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Omnibook 800 CT Hi all, Was wondering if anyone noticed the 800 CT prices on ebay. Seems like they have come down quite a bit, are this the same ones that sold for 400 to 500 dollars a while back. I was looking at picking up a laptop to do some things the 200lx can't do and these sound pretty good. Let me know what you all think, I know there are a lot of omnibookers (?) out there. Thanks Terry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:22:28 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement Availability? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Hal, On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:24:59 -0600, Hal Goldstein wrote: > to place our order. My question is how many of you think you might want to > buy these back up cases (in what quantity) say for $25? It depends: If you would assemble the right hinge of the new case, I would gladly take one. If I had to assemble the hinge on my own, I think I'd not be able to use it, because I'm not able to assemble the hinge (I tried it several times but every attempt failed so far!) TNX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 21:56:07 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jorgen@PALMTOP.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: 46% Fluff- I have a suggestion! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Now about 40-46% of the messages on this list is Fluff. So when we soon hit 50 over percent, I suggest that we rename this list to 'Fluff and other Crap' and skip the serious messages about the palmtop. :-) Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:22:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Ýfluff¨ Omnibook 800 CT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh boy, supersellers! I tried to buy a machine from them, and they just kept ignoring my e-mails, over and over. I was hot on the 650T because of the size. but I got spooked by their total lack of response and by their e-bay feedback rating. I also have a 3400CT which typically sells for less than $100, and would also make a good lightweight replacement for the 200LX for the original posters application at about 3.6 lbs. I ended up buying an IBM Thinkpad 760ED (P133, 16MB, 12" TFT, CDROM, etc.) from compgeeks for $319, but it is a full sized laptop. Bryan Ken Hansen wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken Hansen > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: Re: Omnibook 800 CT > > I like the Portege 650ct I got at supersellers.net (on auction, he now sells > direct) - a complete kit is about $270 (no CD-ROM), a nicer unit w/built-in > CD-ROM is about $320. > > Add-on memory is a bit expensive (64 Meg SoDIMMs are about $100 for this > unit), but the screen is nice and large, TFT color, full keyboard, real > ports built-in, can take a fairly thick drive (12.7 mm high). > > The Librettos are nice too (I have an L50 and an L110), but not as main > machines (the keyboard, lack of ports, small memory capacity, and small > screen get to you after a while...) > > HTH, > > Ken > > PS that is www.supersellers.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian McIlvaine > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 7:47 AM > Subject: Re: Omnibook 800 CT > > Terry - > For a bit more money you can get better performance (and MUCH better > battery life) with a Libretto - I'd recommend the 100CT > > Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Terry > Livingston > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 22:26 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Omnibook 800 CT > > Hi all, > Was wondering if anyone noticed the 800 CT prices on ebay. Seems > like they have come down quite a bit, are this the same ones that sold for > 400 to 500 dollars a while back. I was looking at picking up a laptop to do > some things the 200lx can't do and these sound pretty good. Let me know > what you all think, I know there are a lot of omnibookers (?) out there. > Thanks > Terry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 22:14:00 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Newbie programmer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota wrote: > I would like to start programming on the Hp 200lx, my problem is that > I have very limited programming skils: BASIC(many, many years ago) and > some HTML(Which is not strictly programming). Ah hah! A fairly uncorrupted mind! I'll assume you literally mean "programming _on_ the HP 200LX", instead of "programming _for_ ...". I trust the distinction is clear. > Which programming language should I start with?(C, C++, Pascal,etc.) Forth? It'll change the way you think about programming languages. 8-) But seriously, if you're looking to learn a language that's "legitimate" (read: your boss will approve) enough to use in your working life, you can't go far wrong with C/C++. Borland's older C and C++ compilers can be downloaded free from their site, IIRC. If you want to learn an interactive, fast, powerful, tiny yet _fun_ language, try Forth instead. Searching for "pygmy" at the SUPER site (http://www.palmtop.net/super.html) will get you started with Pygmy Forth. > Where can I get some tutorials(online), or where can I buy some good > books(and which books)? A good starting point would be the Forth Interest Group (FIG) site: http://www.forth.org/ You'll find quite a few good tutorials and other useful info there. As for books, most of the good ones (Starting Forth, etc.) are sadly out of print, but you might find them at your local library. As you progress, the Forth Programmer's Handbook (a fairly new book from Forth, Inc. -- http://www.forth.com/) may become useful. Have fun! -- - Adrian Ho lexfiend@usa.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:48:42 +0100 Reply-To: Alan Krempler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Krempler Subject: loading special TSRs (irda and fastdb) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit if you have special TSRs (*.tsr files) installed on your palmtop put them into the C:\ or C:\_DAT directories. but if you have a memory card inserted AND a config.sys file present in A:\, put your *.tsr files into A:\ or A:\_DAT DETAILS: the hp system manager allows "special TSRs" (= system manager compliant TSRs, *.tsr files) to be loaded by simply putting them into C:\_DAT or the "default directory" (usually C:\ when SysMgr is started). This is what most documentations say and what i thought. BUT: if a memory card is inserted AND a config.sys file is present in the root directory of this card, A: becomes the "boot drive", so SysMgr looks for these files in A:\_DAT and A:\ !!! the ramdisk C: is not looked at at all in this case! tho only special TSRs i know of are the irda drivers (irda097 on S.U.P.E.R.) and the database accelerator (fastdb on S.U.P.E.R.). i believe fastdb is being used by quite a lot of people. HISTORY: a few days ago i asked how to get the irda drivers for SysMgr going. i want to share what i found out because i think it might be useful to some of you. i want to thank patrick west, who has a working system and helped me a lot by letting me know that it is possible go get things working and by describing his configuration. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:13:17 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Omnibook 800 CT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Was wondering if anyone noticed the 800 CT prices on ebay. Seems like > they have come down quite a bit, are this the same ones that sold for 400 to 500 > dollars a while back. I was looking at picking up a laptop to do some things > the 200lx can't do and these sound pretty good. Let me know what you all think, > I know there are a lot of omnibookers (?) out there. Depends on your laptop needs. Most laptops can do things that a 200LX can't do, and each laptop "camp" has its own following. Omnibook people tend to favor OBs for the "paw" mouse and the instant-on feature (more apparent in the older OBs (300-530) than in the 800CT). There's a lot of good things about an OB (300-800), tho not having tried many other brands, I'm not qualified to rate them against other brands. I can only guess that Libretto and Portege people favor trackpoints and a smaller footprint (and screen). I'm not sure what you'd be bidding for on ebay, but a "complete" 800CT system should also include accessories items such as a spare battery, AC adapter, CDROM drive, and a floppy drive. Added RAM (to 80mb), bigger hard-drive (standard is 2.1gb), and a docking station are nice things also. A bunch of us on the Omnibook list got together a year ago and group-purchased refurbished "packages" (of the above items and more) for $500 apiece. It's hardly the pocketable unit that the 200LX (or even the Libretto) is, but it has a gorgeous TFT screen, and the disk drive is easy (and cheap) to upgrade, tho battery life (at 1-2 hours) is hardly anything to write home about. Cpack runs fine on the Win95b that's standard on the 800CT, so your LX is easily connectible, tho most of us just swap the flash card to get the data. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 06:52:46 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: SC on Omnibook Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Sounds like an interesting experiment, tho I wonder if the task swapping > > capabilities and virtual memory of Windows 3.1 might be more robust than SC. > > Sorry....SC doesn't crash as much as Win 3.1 did. SC won't give you the blue > screen of death. Then he should be fine with either on the Omnibook since it doesn't have a blue screen. Besides, it's not a given that palmtop SC on an Omnibook is crash-resistant. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:32:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: SC on Omnibook Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ken London wrote: > > Sounds like an interesting experiment, tho I wonder if the task swapping > > capabilities and virtual memory of Windows 3.1 might be more robust than SC. > Sorry....SC doesn't crash as much as Win 3.1 did. SC won't give you the blue > screen of death. I can't speak for SC, but I found that Win 3.1/95/98 made a lousey DOS session switcher. Albeit I do dumb things like running graphics programs and programming. I would dread running the CPack software under Win 3.1 in a DOS box. Can OS/2 3 or 4 be installed on the OB 430? Version 3 takes less space and makes a fine Win 3.1 and DOS task switcher. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:39:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Fluff: throwing stones Re: Fluff Democracy in America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The point is that there is no one without sin so no one should throw stones. well, almost no one.... A Joke: Jesus is walking through the streets of Jerusalem when he hears a great crowd gathering at a wall. All of the people in the crowd are shouting irately and waving stones at a poor prostitute by the name of Mary Magdeline. Jesus approaches the crowd and asks, "What has this soul done to deserve such a harsh fate?" A man answers, "She has committed adultery, and by the Law she must be killed!" Jesus holds up his hand. "Let he among you who has no sin cast the first stone." The crowd suddenly falls silent, and people begin to drop their stones and walk away from Mary. As people are beginning to leave, one huge, jagged stone flies out from the back of the crowd and hits Mary square between the eyes, knocking Mary to the ground. Jesus pushes his way through as he scans the crowd for the assailant. He suddenly espies her and whines, "Mom, I hate it when you do that!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:05 PM Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America > >Nathalie, simply to make a point. That point being: Those who live > in > >glass houses shouldn't throw stones! i.e.: Let he/she who is > without sin > >cast the first stone. > > I've always wondered why Christians encourage people without sin to > throw stones. That seems rather perverse. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:12:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>However your premise *is* cooly rational - that half are under the >>>average intelligence, and half over it >> >>Isn't that actually true of the mean? > >Average IS "the mean". > >And no, it is NOT reliably true of the mean, only of the MEDIAN. The >median is *defined* as that value which has half of the values larger >and half smaller. > "Average" commonly refers to any of three things: 1. The Mean (the sum of all values divided by the number of the values). 2. The Median (the value at the midpoint for an odd number of values ordered by magnitude, or the mean of the two middle values for an even number of values ordered by magnitude). 3. The Mode (the most commonly repeated value, if any). In a Normal Distribution, represented by the famous Bell Curve, Mean = Median = Mode. You can prove this to yourself using the List Stat application in your palmtop's HPCalc (this is my attempt to bring this thread back on topic). Also, the Mean/Median/Mode for "intelligence", as measured by the Intelligence Quotient or IQ, is fixed at 100. Bruce in Toronto (knew he'd find a use for this someday) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:20:25 -0600 Reply-To: cwbrad@attglobal.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Charles W. Bradley" Subject: Re: SC on Omnibook Comments: To: "Stephan R. Novosad" In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.16.20010112093312.178751ba@Server030.FWB.SAIC.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 12 Jan 2001, at 10:32, Stephan R. Novosad wrote: > I can't speak for SC, but I found that Win 3.1/95/98 made a lousey DOS > session switcher. Albeit I do dumb things like running graphics > programs and programming. I would dread running the CPack software > under Win 3.1 in a DOS box. Can OS/2 3 or 4 be installed on the OB > 430? Version 3 takes less space and makes a fine Win 3.1 and DOS task > switcher. Hello, If one does not have to have WIN 3.1, Software Carousel was very stable for the years that I used it on a desktop. I have OS/2 v.3 installed here on two Compaq Aeros running 8mb and 12mb ram. The only problem that I run into with Warp 3 on these machines is that the clipboard doesn't have much memory and will truncate copy - paste operations at about 2 lines of text. Other than that, DOS does very well on Warp. However, because of the idiosyncracies of the Aero, I am not able to add any Warp fixpacks. Therefore, I have to reboot after opening and closing a number of DOS programs because of the memory leak requires a fixpack to repair. As it is, working all day rarely requires a reboot to recover the memory, which is not something that can be said about Win 3.1 on a low end machine (g). Cordially, Charles ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Bradley Hopewell Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN Union Grove Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN Emmanuel Presbyterian Chapel, Hohenwald, TN http://www.usit.com/hopewell/ "Let Thy works praise Thee, that we may love Thee; and let us love Thee, that Thy works may praise Thee." Aurelius Augustine cwbrad@attglobal.net FAX (931)840-0679 ----------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:44:10 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fluff why this list is as great as America Comments: To: Jim Saklad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > 1. Regard all racial and sexual minorities as sacrosanct and refrain from > >> any criticism of them. > >> > > > >Be careful who you call a minority...whites in the U.S. now make up 49% of the > >population so they now are a minority!!!! > > I heard a report on the radio today, referring (I think) to New York > schools, stating that 80% of the students were minorities.... Well, at one time, that might have been "JEWISH minorities"!!! Once again, definitions are needed to sort this stuff out! (g) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:44:23 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fluff: Electrifying stories... Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >>I purchased one on eBay > >>last August to show the class I was teaching the dangers of > >>electricity. > > how boring why not make your hair stand up on end instead? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml He would if he had any! (gd&r) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:08:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Newbie programmer Comments: To: Adrian Ho MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adrian Ho wrote: > > Which programming language should I start with?(C, C++, Pascal,etc.) C. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:21:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement Availability? Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hal, I would probably go for 3-4 cases for $25 each. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:21:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > > which brings me to SETI@home - have you joined? Ok, here is a palmtop connection to this fluff topic - granted, it is a bit obtuse, but nevertheless ... :-> Check out the da-seti group. This is a group of us supporting SETI@home. you can find a bit more info at http://www.dasoft.com and click on the "SETI Support" link at the top of the page... You are invited to join the group - it is free, it is fun, and it is doing something with unused cycles of your CPU. Enjoy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:32:24 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, A Meshar wrote: > Check out the da-seti group. This is a group of us supporting > SETI@home. you can find a bit more info at > http://www.dasoft.com and click on the "SETI Support" link at > the top of the page... > > You are invited to join the group - it is free, it is fun, and > it is doing something with unused cycles of your CPU. I'm assuming this cannot be done on a 200LX? Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 06:24:04 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement Availability /insurance proposal Comments: To: Hal Goldstein In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:24 PM 11/01/01 -0600, you wrote: >I mentioned a while back that we were looking to manufacture the case part >of the 200LX with the HP logo on it to fix hinge cracked cases. Long story, >but it looks like it will happen (I'd prefer not to get into details, but it >is the best possible solution for the end product). Also, it is likely this >is the only part we will be able to obtain. Hi Hal & list Is this a one time order you can do Hal or is this an ongoing situation? ie can you get more cases in 12 Months? 3 years etc? If this is a one time situation I propose an "insurance" scheme where we pay say $5 for you to stockpile cases. The people who pay the $5 would have access to a case should it be needed until stocks are depleted. To ensure it is needed Thaddeus would do the repairs so someone doesnt try to get a case when stocks get low. Similar could be done with the Dutch LX's. ie we pay some money now so Hal can stockpile some LX's that will ensure a replacement if our LX dies. My 0.02 Cheers Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:55:35 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement Availability /insurance proposal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" <> I appreciate the idea, Russell, but we are ordering LOTS of these case parts which we will stockpile on this one-time buy. Selling them at $25 a piece will help us offset some of the cost. We need the cases to fix Dutch palmtops that came in cracked and for our repair business. 75-80% of our repairs involve screens and/or cases. Now, if we could only get more screens ... Our Palmtop business is still quite healthy thanks to the sale of the Dutch palmtops. In fact, now we are looking for another large source of units as the ones we have won't last that much longer. We expect our 200LX Palmtop business will be around for a good while to come, and our Pocket PC/Windows CE magazine is finally doing OK. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:12:06 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fluff: throwing stones Re: Fluff Democracy in America Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Jesus is walking through the streets of Jerusalem when he hears a great > crowd gathering at a wall. All of the people in the crowd are shouting > irately and waving stones at a poor prostitute by the name of Mary > Magdeline. And you heard the original recording when a pot from that era made by stylus was discovered and played back on NPR's classic old recordings show (forgot its real name)! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:25:10 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Fluff: Electrifying stories... Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Victor Roberts wrote: > There was a hot dog cooker sold in the US that used the same > principle, but at 120 volts. It had no heater. Just two > electrodes, one connected to each side of the power line that > stick into the ends of the hot dog, which is a US sausage. The > device was called the Presto HotDogger. I purchased one on eBay > last August to show the class I was teaching the dangers of > electricity. I submitted the following recipe to a group at work that was going to make a cookbook but for some reason it wasn't accepted... :-) I've only used it on 115VAC in the USA; 220VAC may be too much. Cheers... Russ --- begin of forwarded message --- The Guilty Hot Dog: Capital Punishment in Your Kitchen ------------------------------------------------------- by: Corner-Sewer Russel Brooks Ingredients: 1- Hot dog(s). Up to four at once can be done but one or two work best. 2- TV cheater cord. (To make one, take a lamp, (unplug it), cut power cord near base of lamp and throw lamp away. Split wires apart about 6-10 inches and attach an alligator clip to each wire.) 3- 2 metal forks. (cheap ones, don't use your grandmother's silver...) Poke forks into hot dog about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch from each end. Lay hot dog and forks on a "non-metalic" surface. Connect alligator clips of cheater cord, one to each fork handle. Without touching the hot dog, forks, or alligator clips, plug the cord into an electrical outlet. In about 20 seconds the hot dog will start to 'sweat'. (You would too!) In about 30-40 seconds the hot dog will split open. This is your clue to unplug the cord. "After" you have unplugged the cord, remove the forks from the hot dog and eat any way you like. (The dog will be HOT, the forks warm.) Warnings and other information: ------------------------------- >>>>> Dangerous Voltages are present when the cord is plugged in!! Although I have cooked this way and lived to tell about it, you may not be so lucky if you are not VERY CAREFUL. Never touch the food, forks, or alligator clips when the cord is plugged in! Hide TV cheater cord where children (and adults?) can't get it. Cooking will tarnish the forks something terrible, you may be able to clean them up a little with SOS pads but they will never be the same and will need to be replaced after 6-10 uses. This makes a good tasting hot dog. The hot dog cooks itself with the heat generated internally by the electrical current flowing through it. I have only used Oscar Meyer hot dogs, I don't know the electrical properties of other brands. :-) When 'cooking', if you see sparks where the fork pierces the hot dog you waited too long before unplugging the cord. Using a test hot dog, cook until arcing starts and don't cook anymore hot dogs this long. The more times a fork is used the more it is prone to arcing before the hot dog is done. The arcing ruins the flavor of the hot dog, and smells bad too. Multiple hot dogs can be cooked in parallel. The practical limit is 4 because it's hard to spear more than 4 hot dogs with one normal table fork. It's possible that too many hot dogs could blow a circuit breaker. --- end of forwarded message --- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:25:12 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: fluuff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dennis Bell wrote: > I am dismayed to see the fluff content rising > higher and higher these days. By my count, the > last digest dropped below 50% real content. > > Is this the beginning of the end? > > This forum has always stayed on topic, and I, > for one, appreciate that discipline. I agree. I don't mind the occasional Fluff but lately there have been some l-o-n-g running OT threads. I don't want to filter out FLUFF because a little is often interesting. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:25:15 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: SRAM cards Comments: To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steve Carder wrote: > > Yes, we have about 4000 used 1.5 meg rechargeable SRAM cards. Don't even > > know if they are still any good. > > I have been testing out some of these cards and they seem to be fine. The > battery is supposedly rechargeable and charges when the card is in the palmtop. > All of the cards I have tested (6) still had their original data on arrival, > so the batteries hold a charge fairly well. How does the LX see them? As a 1.5M A: disk?? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 22:01:06 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: loading special TSRs (irda and fastdb) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Alan, On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:48:42 +0100, Alan Krempler wrote: > if you have special TSRs (*.tsr files) installed on your palmtop put them > into the C:\ or C:\_DAT directories. but if you have a memory card inserted > AND a config.sys file present in A:\, put your *.tsr files into A:\ or > A:\_DAT REALLY!! Thank you a lot! I everytime wondered why the "spdalrm.tsr" which I put in C:\_DAT, doesn't always have effect (it seems to work SOMETIMES, but I always "boot" from the A:-Card). Now I copied it to A:\_DAT and it now seems to work reliably. FYI: The spdalrm.tsr is a tsr which adjusts the tone speed of the alarm sound of the appointment book if you have the double speed upgrade installed. GTX+TNX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:01:13 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long) Comments: To: Jim Saklad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Saklad" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 10:02 PM Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Fluff Democracy in America (Long) > >>However your premise *is* cooly rational - that half are under the > >>average intelligence, and half over it > > > >Isn't that actually true of the mean? > > Average IS "the mean". > > And no, it is NOT reliably true of the mean, only of the MEDIAN. The > median is *defined* as that value which has half of the values larger > and half smaller. Thanks for the correction. I had the right idea. And the wrong word. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:02:47 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Re fluff Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fryday" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 10:33 PM Subject: Re: Re: Re fluff > Here's an idea: > > A WAP viewer for the LX. > > People who want to see HTML can get it through Google.com or DigitalPath... > > Simple, useful. What is a WAP viewer? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:32:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM Subject: FLUFF: DA-SETI (was Re: Fluff Democracy in America (Long)) Comments: To: Theodore Heise In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/12/01 -0600, you wrote: > > http://www.dasoft.com and click on the "SETI Support" link at > >I'm assuming this cannot be done on a 200LX? Unfortunately! On a 750 MHz machine, three clients take about 10 hours to process a Work Unit. On my OB 800CT (133MHz Pentium II) it took a good 30 hours. I think on the palmtop it will take about a month! :-) ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:13:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Diagram of palmtop assembly MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Maybe everybody knows about this already, but I just discovered a great illustration of a palmtop "exploded view". The picture refers to a 95LX, but I believe it's identical for the 100/200LX. It's at: http://www.public.usit.net/rfurr/hp-95.htm Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 21:16:24 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Fluff: Distributed computing? -> GIMPS!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A Meshar wrote: > > Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > > > which brings me to SETI@home - have you joined? > > Check out the da-seti group. This is a group of us supporting > SETI@home. you can find a bit more info at > http://www.dasoft.com and click on the "SETI Support" link at ...Or donate your spare cycles to GIMPS, the Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search like I do. You may even qualify for prize money if your machine discovers a mersenne prime. http://www.mersenne.org I'm at about position 1190 on the top producers list and hope to crack the 1000 barrier in the next 6 months or so. And No, you can't run it on the LX. You wouldn't want to either as using those spare cycles would drain your batteries faster. GIMPS really needs a Pentium 133MHz minimum and will make good use of faster processors. I'm using a P 133, a PII 400 and a PII 450. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:28:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: How to find an ISP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted a tip on D&A website... BTW, if you want more timely announcements of any changes on our Website, offers we make occasionally, and basically to keep in touch with what we do, then check out our Mailing list. It is free, it is not used for anything except announcements, and we don't spam you, not give the email addresses to anyone else. You can join and remove yourself at will - you control that... The list is managed by Listbot.com and they have been exemplary (so far) in their discretion. I put in several fake ids to see if I get junk mail and so far - nothing! Once you join, you can also view the older messages we posted. Details: http://www.dasoft.com/ann.htm and click on the large red button with the wors "Join Us" at the top of the page. Thank you. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:46:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Neill Currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neill Currie Subject: FS: Megahertz pocket modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Megahertz pocket modem 14.4 K/bps data/fax. As "Brand-New" condition. Runs off a standard "square" 9v battery(not supplied) for hours, leaving the PCMCIA slot free for other purposes. Includes a lightweight, short connection cable that terminates in a female DB9 plug. The whole modem is about half the size and 1/3 weight of a 200LX, a very neat and elegant package(.jpg provided if needed). $25 shipped in the USA. Neill Currie Portland Me 04102, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:57:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Diagram of palmtop assembly MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great find on the 'early stages' of the 95LX. I like this quote the best: "One design issue was the amount of costly RAM for the computer. HP initially designed the palmtop with 256K." I wonder if they ever envisioned the doublespeed, 64MB 200LX with a 220MB Sandisk card? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Martin" To: Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 4:13 PM Subject: Diagram of palmtop assembly > Maybe everybody knows about this already, but I just discovered a great > illustration of a palmtop "exploded view". The picture refers to a 95LX, > but I believe it's identical for the 100/200LX. It's at: > > http://www.public.usit.net/rfurr/hp-95.htm > > Bruce in Toronto > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 06:09:24 +0800 Reply-To: star_byte@iprimus.com.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harry Oldenhuis Subject: Re: Win98 install problems Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Martin What you need is posible the cdrom made for the Compaq Deskpro A lot of Brand name computers use the device drivers on thier own cd's like Dell computers, Ibm aptiva, Gee cant think of the rest They chec to see if you product has thier brand name in the chip from the cdrom or hard disk you can only use genuane parts and thier device drivers I hope this helps Cheers Harry (Sorry for the off-topic post, but you folks are the smartest bunch I have regular access to. And, for what it's worth, if I get this machine running, it'll be my new file backup for my 200LX.) At my kids' insistence, I recently acquired a used Compaq Deskpro 2000 to replace the old Mac we used at home. It's a 200 Mhz 586MMX, 64 Mb/3.2 Gb/8x CD-ROM with the ROM BIOS flashed to Compaq's latest version. It came with Win95 loaded, but no system CD-ROM, so I picked up a copy of Win98 to install on it. Hijinks ensued, as they say. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 07:29:15 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Jan 2001 to 6 Jan 2001 (#2001-8) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dennis, What a wonderful idea! I can verify that it works. In fact, I built two wherein each costed less than US$15. For those who want to try it out also, here are some useful info: Wall charger for Nokia 2110 or 2110i Nokia part number ACP-3 It's very compact, input voltage of 100-240VAC and has a universal interchageable wall plug. You have to cut the existing adapter plug off and solder one that fits the hplx. You can also buy replacement wall chargers that can cost as little as half the Nokia price. But I decided to stick with the original since it was not that expensive at all. Shouldn't be that difficult to find one in a used cel store. They are easy to find down here in Asia. >Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 23:00:22 EST >From: Dennis Vest >Subject: Re: WTB: HP AC Adapter > >I was just looking at the AC adapter for my old Nokia 2160 cellphone. It says >12V@1A on it. Hmmm. Gotta run to Radio Shack to get a new plug to solder on >so I can try it on myt LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:33:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: William Hewelett is Dead at 87 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It was announced that W. Hewlett of Hewlett-Packard died on Friday morning of natural causes at 87 years. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:35:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: William Hewelett is Dead at 87 Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > It was announced that W. Hewlett of Hewlett-Packard died on > Friday morning of natural causes at 87 years. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml http://www.msnbc.com/news/515388.asp ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:56:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: William Hewelett is Dead at 87 Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi, Thank you for sharing this sad news. This comes at a time when the company is not doing well in the stock market, a temporary set back I'm sure. I still believe the company has its strengths but William Hewlett was a real innovator and he will be missed. WEB A Meshar wrote: > > It was announced that W. Hewlett of Hewlett-Packard died on > Friday morning of natural causes at 87 years. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:49:42 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Sad Day MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit HP Co-Founder And William Hewlett Dies at 87 By Peter Henderson SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Hewlett-Packard Co. (NYSE:HWP - news) co-founder William Hewlett, who helped launch a technology revolution out of a Silicon Valley garage, died on Friday morning of natural causes, the company said. Hewlett, 87, and David Packard, who died in 1996, founded their company in 1939. One of their first sales of electronic equipment was to Walt Disney Studios where it was used to perfect the soundtrack of the animated movie ``Fantasia'', an HP statement said. The pioneers built a company known for technological innovations, such as the first pocket calculator, and became examples for their dedication to employees and philanthropy. Begun in a one-car garage with $538, Hewlett-Packard has developed into a computer and printer powerhouse with nearly $50 billion in sales. It also spun off Agilent Technologies Inc. (NYSE:A - news), an $11 billion testing equipment firm. The young company began in the shadow of the Depression, leading the young businessmen, Hewlett and Packard, to be careful with their money but generous with their employees, embracing a management style that has become known as the HP Way. ``When I was born...there was no money, so we said: We don't want to borrow money. People who'd borrowed money had gotten into trouble,'' Hewlett said in a 1997 interview on the Web site of The Tech Museum of Innovation in San Jose, where he was a major donor. ``We also said: We don't want to hire and fire in our company. And things like that. Really reflected our background of what it was like to be in a bad economy.'' Hewlett-Packard Chief Executive Carly Fiorina said in a statement that the company would ``cherish and nurture Bill's bright spirit of invention''. Hewlett gave up his active role in running the company in 1978, when he retired from the post of CEO, and was named board director emeritus in 1987. Peter B. Giles, President of the Tech Museum, said in an interview with Reuters that Hewlett was forever curious and had supported conflict resolution, education and the arts. ``There have been a lot of people giving money and investing in community that are doing it because of Bill's example,'' he said. Hewlett also was known for his sense of humor. In college, he said, he packed a doorknob with explosives and blew it up as a prank. ``'Course, I didn't get caught,'' he said. Hewlett and Packard met at Stanford University, based in Palo Alto, California in the heart of what has since become known as Silicon Valley. Encouraged by a professor at the university, which has produced scores of technology entrepreneurs since, the two decided to start a business selling practical applications in the nascent field of electronics. They began in Packard's garage, which has been designated a California state historical landmark. William Redington Hewlett was born May 20, 1913 in Ann Arbor, Michigan and at age three moved to California, where his father, a physician, joined the faculty of Stanford Medical School. Hewlett and Packard donated more than $300 million to Stanford over the years. Hewlett is survived by his second wife, Rosemary, five children and five stepchildren. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:20:40 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Subject: Group Project Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi, I am quoting Barry's post, because it was labeled as Fluff, and it is very interesting and should be available for everyone(Without it being sent to Trash/delete/etc. by naughty filters)(g) >I've always enjoyed reading off-topic messages in newsgroups and >listserves, but I'm usually not a participant beyond an occasional >quip. But I find myself wanting to respond to the jibes in this >list. There isn't much serious business anymore and the fluff is >really pretty interesting stuff. > >And using the word fluff, as someone mentioned, does seem like a >license, relieving the guilt. > >I guess, even though I'm a big part of the problem, I agree that >it's not good. But I'm not sure the real solution is just not to do >it anymore. I think a better solution might be to make a concious >effort to find on-topic things to talk about. > >Someone suggested that we talk about programming. Since I retired I >haven't done a lot of programming and a lot of what I have done has >been on the Palm and Windows, and I haven't really enjoyed that >much. Recently I started organizing a 200lx to make a good >programming platform, thinking that as I did so I'd come up with a >project for myself. But I haven't. In the past that's never been a >problem. > >Maybe what we need is a group project, ala Pal. Not another Pal. >We already have that. What we need is something that either would >be generally useful, or generally enjoyed. A tool or a game. I >think a tool would be a better fit on this list. > >I think it should be something that we could get some use from in >it's early stages but will be a large enough project to keep a group >busy for a while. > >Also, it would be nice if non-programmers could participate either >by learning a little programming with the help of the programmers. >We have good tools available that will make that fairly easy. >Non-programmers can also be beta testers and kibitzers. Nathalie >can pester us. Our Pal Al could write the documentation. > >A communications program might not be a good project since not >everyone has the same facilities available. Or, if communications >it be, it needs to be able to be divided into parts that will let >those without access to whatever it's going to commicate with still >have a chance to participate. > >Pal is probably a good tool to use for whatever this might be, but >for those who are allergic to GUI's, maybe it shouldn't be >restricted to the use of Pal. Modular design might provide >sub-projects to suit any taste, depending on the project. > >Are there any ideas? Lx Office? Quake for the lx? A LinuX clone? >Power Mac emulation? Flight Sim lx? The Sims lx? Lx Turbo Tax? >3D Studio Max lx? Autocad lx? The possibities are only limited by >our abilities, but there must be something we can pull off. > >I remember when everybody was working together on Pal on HPHAND. >There was a lot of interest in it by everyone, not just the >programmers on the project. > >Anyway, those are some of my first thoughts. What do you think? > >And, if you don't like the idea, what's your idea? I think we need >a group project of some sort. > >Barry I agree with Barry, if we all got togeteher on a group project we would be seeing more posts dedicated to the Hp 200lx. Here are my ideas:(I am not a programmer so maybe my ideas are impossible) 1) What is the hp 200lx's main drawback? Synchronizing with a Desktop PC. a) Sync with Outlook b) Easy backups(press a key and go!) c) Sync with Word 2) WAP browser(as somebody else mentioned) 3) Quake lx(g)!!! More ideas please... Cheers; Inigo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:22:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: William Hewelett is Dead at 87 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry to hear that Bill Hewlett had passed away. My brother had worked alongside Bill Hewlett in the labs of HP for 37 years - retiring in Nov of 1999. He and Bill were great friends and co-invented hundreds of processes and technologies during those years. I will call my brother tonight, though I suspect he is already with Bill's family. In all the years my brother worked for HP he never uttered a single negative utterance about Bill Hewlett. Not often that a founder of a major American corporation garners that kind of loyalty, respect and enduring praise. He will surely be missed and the company he helped found will certainly be different in the years to come. Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA rbc@ezlink.com = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:50:29 -0500 Reply-To: Jim Westley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Westley Subject: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Also, it would be nice if non-programmers could participate either > >by learning a little programming with the help of the programmers. > >Are there any ideas? Lx Office? Quake for the lx? A LinuX clone? > >Power Mac emulation? Flight Sim lx? The Sims lx? Lx Turbo Tax? > >3D Studio Max lx? Autocad lx? The possibities are only limited by > >our abilities, but there must be something we can pull off. I, for one would really be interested in this. Although I read all the posts, I participate here very little for a couple of reasons: One - most of the technical stuff is too technical for me to participate, and two, the off topic stuff is pretty thoroughly discussed without my chiming in. (I did want to mention that applying 110 volts across a pickle causes heat, smell, and LIGHTS!) My suggestion for some programming projects would be: - a synchronization routine for newer Quicken versions - like wise for Lotus Organizer - A database program that uses the standard .gdb files on the desktop and allows for better report writing, data analysis, graphing etc., but allows any changes in the data to be reflected in the original file. I would bet this can be done now, but I can never remember how. I would also love to be part of it in whatever way I could. The only programming experience I have is 100 level courses in college, and basic on older machines I have owned. Right now I see C source code and my eyes glaze over. I would like to change that. Just a little. Jim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:15:18 -0600 Reply-To: rsoltes@airmail.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard Soltes Subject: Re: Rechargable SRAM cards Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Want my old Model 100 has super-rom chip manuals and a lot of programs on tape $30 includes shipping Barry wrote: > > The question for any purchaser is not how > > well it holds its charge now, but how well it > > holds the charge (and your data) tomorrow. > > I have 3 Radio Shack model 100's, a Model 102 and a Model 200. They > stopped making these in 1986, I think. > > They use a Nicad that run the unit and the 4 AA batteries just keep > the Nicad charged. One of the problems is that when the Nicad dies, > you can't turn the unit off without losing everything. I've run > into people with that problem on listserves. But it's not a common > problem. All of mine are still fine. > > Additionaly I have a bunch of Radio Shack HiCap Nicads that I bought > about 10 years ago and another bunch I bought 5 years ago when I > needed more. These are both AA and C size and I have about 40 or 50 > of them altogether. I've abused them badly, overcharging them with > cheap chargers a lot, sometimes letting them go totally dead and > stay that way for a few months. But each and every one still holds > a charge just fine. > > I really suspect that Nicads have a much longer life than people > expect. Especially if you abuse them. :) > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- Richard Soltes rsoltes@airmail.net The author of the soon to be best selling "CHICKEN SOUP FOR THE CHICKEN" There are two rules in life 1) Never tell everything you know ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 21:15:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Group Project Comments: To: "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" wrote: > Here are my ideas:(I am not a programmer so maybe my ideas are impossible) > > 1) What is the hp 200lx's main drawback? Synchronizing with a Desktop PC. > > a) Sync with Outlook > b) Easy backups(press a key and go!) > c) Sync with Word > Wrong....I backed up the 200lx to a win 98 via connectivity pack, desktop and 200lx were always synched. The backup program with connectivity pack worded fine for me..it already offers easy backups (press a key and go). I had no reason to sync with outlook...everything was in the built in 200lx apps. I also had no need to sync with word, I the 200lx word proc. (memo). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 10:53:33 +0800 Reply-To: nev@wantree.com.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neville le Deville Subject: Re: Group Project Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A5FBA27.F6025E47@beld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The main problem with the HP200LX is the painful upgrade path to one of the= newer all bells & whistles Jornadas. xaphed@thevortex.com *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 12/01/2001 at 21:15 Ken London wrote: >Wrong....I backed up the 200lx to a win 98 via connectivity pack, desktop= and >200lx were always synched. > >The backup program with connectivity pack worded fine for me..it already= offers >easy backups (press a key and go). I had no reason to sync with >outlook...everything was in the built in 200lx apps. I also had no need= to >sync with word, I the 200lx word proc. (memo). > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:00:16 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ian Butler Subject: FLUFF: Re: Why this list is as great as America In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ken London wrote: > Be careful who you call a minority...whites in the U.S. now make up > 49% of the population so they now are a minority!!!! Where did that figure come from? The United States Census puts whites at over 70%. Ian Butler http://peace.hplx.net/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 03:16:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: OT: HP Calculators MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear List, Excuse the off-topic post, but it seems to be fashionable at the moment. I'm guessing that there must be quite a few list members who are long-standing HP users. Before I owned my HP200LX, I was introduced to HP's fine products through the HP48 calculator, and subsequently bought an HP16C that I'd long covetted. Much as I like the 200 and believe it's (still) superior to its competitors, I think that the older HP handhelds were of noticeably better quality and construction. My HP16C is a delight to me every time I use it and feels as if it will last forever and a day. Getting to the point (at last), I'd like to hear the reminiscences of people who, in their day, owned cutting-edge HP equipment. I try to imagine the sheer elation of the proud owner of the new HP65 as he opened the box of the world's first pocket programmable calculator - in essence the worlds first pocket computer. So come on guys & gals, how was your first time with HP? It may be OT, but at least it's not slagging each other off. For those that like their off-topic posts mixed with topical fluff, my HP16C has "USA" stamped into the plastic case. It made me think about how good the US can be when compared to their natural technical competitor - the Japanese. Most far east equipment wins on "gee whizz" factor, but American technology always seems to have the hallmark of quiet efficiency. Each component and feature smacks of great thought and design coupled with a visible synergy. c.f. the good-ol'-days-HP-style 200 vs the Japanese wannabe 548 Jornada. BTW, tt's not my intention to go Jap-bashing or Yank-crawling, just my perception of a cultural difference made flesh in computers. ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 03:16:48 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: infoselect question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Ed Padin wrote: > I just a copy of IS and it looks pretty good. I like the freeform = nature of > the program. The only thing that bothers me is that file size is = limited by > memory. I want to store some big databases with emails, etc. and wait = IS to > be able to search for all. > > Anyway, the question I have is, Is there an easy way to read multiple = ascii > files into an IS database? It's a pain to import a file by typing in = the > name. I'd be happy if it just came up with a dir listing where I could = pick > the file. Ed, Before you commit yourself (too late?) have a look at FlexPad. it's shareware ($35 I think). It might solve all your problems. http://www.jps.net/flexpad It can read/write ASCII files. It's freeform. It can search and also has an "only" mode (like the HP95LX phone book) where you see only the lines that contain your search text. It's very fast on a double-speed LX, even big files. "Instant" on a desktop. It can search a collection of files (e.g. all *.txt files in a folder) and creates another new file with the search results presented as an index listing. You can do a jump (Alt-J) on any result line to load that file, straight to the line with the search match, and then Alt-W (Weturn?!) will take you back to the index file where you left it. All using plain text files. It also has brilliant PIM functions, but these add a small amount of binary to the file. It too is limited to a file no bigger than free conventional RAM, but the above features help get around this limitation. I'm a delighted user of this program (as you can probably tell). ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 03:16:52 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Newbie programmer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota wrote: > I would like to start programming on the Hp 200lx, my problem is that I = have > very limited programming skils: BASIC(many, many years ago) and some > HTML(Which is not strictly programming). Which programming language = should I > start with?(C, C++, Pascal,etc.) Where can I get some tutorials(online),= or > where can I buy some good books(and which books)? I have used computers = for > many years but have never gotten to programming because I didn't know = where > to start from. FWIW, here's my advice. 1) You'll soon learn never to ask which language to learn. You'll see why! 2) All answers will depend on whether yours is a commercial endeavour, or for education/amusement (I'm assuming the latter). 3) So, whatever you do, make sure you're having fun. 4) I would start programming on the desktop, if you have one. Unless (see item 3) you enjoy the challenge of the restricted environment, or you'll enjoy the fruits of your labours on the HP. 5) C & Pascal are both great languages. Best of all, you can get good DOS compilers & IDEs (Integrated Development Environments) FREE from Borland's community site. Both will run on the HP. http://community.borland.com/museum/ *The above link wasn't working just now, but it *should*! 6) Not a book for the total novice, but Steve McConnell's "Code Complete" is a great book to read once you've started to make your own mistakes. It suggests good programming practices. It is reasonably language neutral, with examples in C, Pascal & BASIC. If you want a good introduction to algorithms, try J. Bentley's "Programming Pearls". Example code in C/C++. Again, not an absolute beginner's book, but the earlier you can digest its contents the better. 7) There's another post with a tutorial link. You could also look at http://www.programmingtutorials.com/ 8) If you become interested in object oriented programming, you can get Borland's C++ compiler from the link mentioned above, and their Turbo Pascal 5.5 supports objects (classes). There's a great link for all things OO: http://www.cetus-links.org. If you try your hand at Window's development, I recommend taking a look at Borland's Delphi (hey Borland, where's my commission?). The older versions occasionally appear on magazine cover disks. If you can't find one, and fancy trying it, I can snail-mail you a CD. 9) Most of all, be curious. Always try out what you're reading about. If you think, I wonder what would happen if I did this or that - do it and find out. Also, I find that I learn & remember things better if I type sample code in rather than copy/paste. Have fun! ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:46:09 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Perhaps not in the same genre as the HP48, I bought my first HP calculator, an HP12C financial calculator, 20 years ago. I still use it to this day, every day. Initially, I bought it in order to double check my formulas and functions when I was programming the automated loan underwriting program for Freddy Mac (FHLMC) in Washington, DC. Since then, it has been my only calculator. I certainly agree that American designs in electronics tend to be more elegant and straightforward - two ingredients that all but remove them from the instant obsolescence of whiz-bang technology packaging. On 01-12 08:16pm MST, > Dear List, > For those that like their off-topic posts mixed with topical > fluff, my HP16C has "USA" stamped into the plastic case. It > made me think about how good the US can be when compared to > their natural technical competitor - the Japanese. Most far > east equipment wins on "gee whizz" factor, but American > technology always seems to have the hallmark of quiet > efficiency. Each component and feature smacks of great thought > and design coupled with a visible synergy. c.f. the > good-ol'-days-HP-style 200 vs the Japanese wannabe 548 Jornada. > > BTW, tt's not my intention to go Jap-bashing or Yank-crawling, > just my perception of a cultural difference made flesh in > computers. > Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA rbc@ezlink.com = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:01:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: FLUFF: Re: Why this list is as great as America Comments: To: ian Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ian Butler wrote: > Where did that figure come from? The United States Census puts whites at > over 70%. The 49% figure came from the last census (2000). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:16:04 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ian Butler Subject: FLUFF: Re: Why this list is as great as America In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, David Sargeant wrote: > The 49% figure came from the last census (2000). That's odd; according to www.census.gov, as of 01 nov 2000, there are ~276,059,000 people in the United States, of which ~226,861,000, or 82.2%, are white. See, for intance, http://www.census.gov/population/estimates/nation/intfile3-1.txt. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:01:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: HP Calculators Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Getting to the point (at last), I'd like to hear the >>reminiscences of people who, in their day, owned cutting-edge >>HP equipment. I try to imagine the sheer elation of the proud in the early 80's we owned an hp laser interferometer a device for measuring distance with a laser beam totally cutting edge in its day ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:55:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: StarTac ST7868W As A Modem Comments: To: List OB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received the Data Connectivity Kit for the ST7868W. LX list members indicated that the modem part will work only in digital regions. My home is in a region with analog only coverage. Here is what happened in the analog region. Software installs OK in Win 95. The phone installs as a modem in the device manager in either COM1 or COM2 as a "Motorola CDMA Phone". I can test the modem in the Control Panel Modem icon. When I try to dial on the StarTac, it just gives an error. So, in digital land, I suspect it appears as a standard 9600 baud modem as far as DOS. I will try it next time I am in digital land. On the 3Com/USR/MHz web site, it appears they sell a cable for the MHz 3CXM556 modem to connect to the StarTac. That may allow Win95 to connect on an analog system. Haven't figured out how to connect the LX in an analog area. So who cares? I am at least 110 miles from a digital system AFIK. It would be nice to say I can connect to the internet on my LX in Shirly Basin (more nowhere than Elk Mountain). Bob -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 22:04:03 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Jacek Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Jacek Organization: @Home Network Subject: Avi at SHARE Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those of you who may be attending the SHARE Technical Conference in Long Beach, CA at the end of February, the Agenda shows that Avi is presenting a session at SCIDS. Avi--I hope to see you there. We met at SHARE in San Francisco two years ago. We had a long talk about WinCE. As a result, I still have my trusty LX. Session 0466 Mobile Computing: The History of Mobile Computing, Part 2 of 2 Speaker: Avi Meshar (A W Meshar Associates),Ellis Holman (IBM Corp.),Alan Happ (IBM Corp.) Chair: Karla Houser (Caterpillar Inc.) Times: Mon, 6:30pm, Convention Center,Ballroom Level,Meet at the SCIDS Meeting Table Length: 5 hours Classification: Technical So, you are tired of carrying all the equipment with you just to stay in touch? Beeper, cell phone, PalmTop, laptop, satellite dish, GPS, etc. It is just way too much to handle! When is it ever going to get any better When will those wearables finally arrive? Well, it used to be worse. Join us at SCIDS for a trip down memory lane and re-visit the history of mobile computing. Remember the luggable PC with its own luggage cart? Remember those 'old' operating systems and paddles? Once you see where we have been, maybe the future will look better. You may even see portable versions of stationary products. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 01:02:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: FLUFF: Re: Why this list is as great as America Comments: To: ian Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ian Butler wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, David Sargeant wrote: > > > The 49% figure came from the last census (2000). > > That's odd; according to www.census.gov, as of 01 nov 2000, there are > ~276,059,000 people in the United States, of which ~226,861,000, or 82.2%, > are white. Note: this item from www.census.gov: All population figures for the year 2000 shown here (including April 1, 2000) are based on the 1990 Census; they do not reflect Census 2000 counts. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:24:53 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Newbie programmer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>> I would like to start programming on the Hp 200lx, my problem is that I have very limited programming skils: BASIC(many, many years ago) and some HTML(Which is not strictly programming). Which programming language should I start with?(C, C++, Pascal,etc.) Where can I get some tutorials(online), or where can I buy some good books(and which books)? I have used computers for many years but have never gotten to programming because I didn't know where to start from. <<<<<<<< You can use Microsoft's Qbasic or their Quickbasic on the 200lx just fine, if you want to use Basic. It's an easy language to learn as you probably know. It's a little slow compared to C but you can do a lot with it. And you can start doing useful things pretty quickly. There are also books in every used bookstore and tutorials all over the web. It's out of fashion, but then so is the 200lx. :) C is a little more challanging overall. Most people learning C on their own with not much programming experience have a pretty confusing month or so till things start coming together. After that it's a lot of fun. And there are people all over the place who can answer questions. There are lots and lots of books and tutorials for C. In the long run you can do more with C but it'll take you longer to get to the point where you can do anything at all with it. Forth is a bit of an elitist language. It's very powerful and not hard to learn. But people (including most other programmers) will assume you're a little strange if they find you using Forth. And they probably will be correct. :) A lot of people look at Forth for an hour and decide it's a waste of time. It forces you to think in whole new ways than most of us are used to. However, if you've used HP calculators, they're modelled after Forth and you have a kind of jumpstart. I don't really think Forth is for everybody. But those who use it sometimes do miracles. There are a lot of books and tutorials for Forth but none that really match the Forth's that you're likely to use on the 200lx. So you end up having to dig. The big problem with Forth is that you're kind of in your own world and there aren't many people you can get help from. But there is help in comp.sys.forth and it's quality is superb. Pascal is a little easier to learn than C. It's more like Basic. (I'll get some disagreement here. But I'm right. :) But it's not a lot easier to learn than C and you can't get as much help from others with it. It really depends on you and the level of challange you want and how much you want to put into it and how far you want to go with it. But, in my opinion, there are no bad choices. Pick one and go with it. When you know it well, if you decide it's the wrong one for you, learning a second language is pretty easy. You already know the hard stuff. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:50:23 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators In-Reply-To: <200101130500.AAA76625@glitch.crosswinds.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Chris Randle wrote: > Getting to the point (at last), I'd like to hear the reminiscences of > people who, in their day, owned cutting-edge HP equipment. Reading your post reminded me of an HP11C that I won in a competition 15 years ago. Digging through a pile of aged equipment yielded a hard flat object in a battered black leather case. I pulled it out, took a deep breath, hit the ON button...and was off to the races. What's truly amazing is that I've never changed (or even taken out) the batteries all this time. None of my other stuff lasted even 5 years in storage before the batteries would leak and ruin the device. The only "damage", apart from the worn case, is a spot of fungus (!) growing on the display. Given that I'm on a tropical island, that's no surprise. (Check the bottom of your LX to find out where.) As for the "decline" in quality of HP handhelds, I haven't had that experience. My 200LX was "born" in 1995. Since then, it's endured half-a-dozen unprotected falls (in one case, it was also moving sideways at a good clip and hit a wall first). I'd expect a 5-year-old child to suffer at least minor brain damage with that kind of abuse, but my LX keeps on ticking... Sorry, didn't mean to preach to the choir. 8-) -- - Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:03:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: 200lx repairs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >It depends on why he is so 'bull headed'. I'll give you my reason why = >there is no substitute=20 >in my case. The followings are my reasons: >1. There isn't quite another palmtop platform with so much software = >available. >2. There isn't quite another palmtop platform with so much = >programming information available. >3. There isn't quite another palmtop platform with so much hardware = >information available. >4. It is the only palmtop platform where it is fully capable and = >feasible to develop it own software on itself. I do it all the time. >5. It has one of the longest battery life. >6. It is also probably the only one with a nearly complete hardware = >and software documentation (The HP Manual) available. > >If any one of the above is valid for your son, it is quite hard to find = >a replacement. Otherwise, many possibility exist. > >Alfred > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sotiros > To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu > Date: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:25 PM > Subject: 200lx repairs > > > My 14 year old son has been using his own 2 meg HP200lx for about two = >years. He has been saving to get the speed doubler and upgrade the ram. = > Since last week his screen has gotten very difficult to read, = >everything seems doubled.........as if two or three screens are = >superimposed over one another. Now the question is...............does = >it make sense to repair the unit for some $125.00 plus shipping......and = >do the upgrade. I believe the speed doubler and 32 megs is something = >like $150.00. That puts the cost in the area of $275.00. I think he = >should consider another alternative. He is bull headed and only wants = >the 200lx. Please help my son and I come to a decision. At any = >rate.........repairing the unit is all he could do at this time, and = >start saving for the upgrade in the future. After saving for the = >upgrade, then needing to spend those monies only to stay where he = >was......well, you can see the difficult position he is in. Of course, = >I will be forwarding these messages to my son........it is his decision = >in the end. =20 > > Thanks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:42:50 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Compilers for HP Palmtop Developer's Guide (ISV libraries) Batson, Dale N writes: > I expected a generic source code library -- not a compiler-specific object code library. Does anyone have experience using this library with other compilers and/or assemblers? I'm currently using Borland C++ v2.0 and TASM v2.51 on my 200LX. Will these work? Does anyone have a copy of Microsoft C 6.0 they'd be willing sell? Anybody who builds a source code library cannot really guarantee that it will work with other compilers. If you look at the PAL library for examples, there are special "work-arounds" to take care of "bugs" which can be found in specific compilers supported by PAL. The HP development kit "officially" supports MSC 6.0. I have used it successfully with TC++ v1.0 TASM2.0, Borland C++3.1 & TASM 3.0. If you want to try it with BC2.0 - try it. The worst that can happen is that your Palmtop will freeze and you might need a full reset. But in any case any one who develops any software on ANY platform should make sure they have a reliable backup. As a developer you can wipe out anything if you try:) David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:53:33 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: test driving PNR Comments: To: Oliver Chua Oliver Chua writes: > It may be wise if list members > using PNR could contact me off list concerning setting up the script and > batch files. Thanks in advance. Consider yourself contacted :) Seriously, discussing this on the list is a good idea because everyone can "chip in" with advice. Setting up PNR is not all that hard, it's just that it uses software from different sources - some of which arent documented all that well. I would suggest getting things going manually first before you start with batch files. The first thing you want to do is get PPPD working in order to get a working internet connection. David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:30:45 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am current working 10% time on a fun IR project. I turn a double speed LX in an IR scope of sort. I can point any remote at the LX and sort of 'see' what the IR signal look like. The next phase will be to decode them. I have managed to decode one of 5 remotes in my possession. This is not going to be too useful as there already are several excellent IR remote program available. This project is interesting in that you get to learn how does remote work. I don't know if this is going to be useful or interesting to more than a very few. If there are sufficient interest, I can be try to gather up enough drive to make it available. Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Jim Westley To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Friday, January 12, 2001 4:52 PM Subject: Group Project >> >Also, it would be nice if non-programmers could participate either >> >by learning a little programming with the help of the programmers. >> >Are there any ideas? Lx Office? Quake for the lx? A LinuX clone? >> >Power Mac emulation? Flight Sim lx? The Sims lx? Lx Turbo Tax? >> >3D Studio Max lx? Autocad lx? The possibities are only limited by >> >our abilities, but there must be something we can pull off. > Ýdeleted¨ > >My suggestion for some programming projects would be: > >- a synchronization routine for newer Quicken versions >- like wise for Lotus Organizer >- A database program that uses the standard .gdb files on the desktop and >allows for better report writing, data analysis, graphing etc., but allows >any changes in the data to be reflected in the original file. I would bet >this can be done now, but I can never remember how. > >I would also love to be part of it in whatever way I could. The only >programming experience I have is 100 level courses in college, and basic on >older machines I have owned. Right now I see C source code and my eyes glaze >over. I would like to change that. Just a little. > >Jim > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:49:44 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: Re: Why this list is as great as America Comments: To: KenLondon In-Reply-To: <3A5FEF8A.78ECDDA3@beld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hmmmm.. I found this paragraph: ----- Welcome to the resident population and apportionment site for Census 2000. The nation's resident population on Census Day, April 1, 2000 was 281,421,906, a 13.2 percent increase over the 248,709,873 counted in the 1990 census. ----- at http://www.census.gov/main/www/cen2000.html I have no idea what the discrepancies mean, really... At 1/13/01 -0500, you wrote: >ian Butler wrote: > > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, David Sargeant wrote: > > > > > The 49% figure came from the last census (2000). > > > > That's odd; according to www.census.gov, as of 01 nov 2000, there are > > ~276,059,000 people in the United States, of which ~226,861,000, or 82.2%, > > are white. > >Note: this item from www.census.gov: All population figures for the year 2000 >shown here (including April 1, 2000) > are based on the 1990 Census; they do not reflect Census 2000 >counts. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 05:17:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Forwarding E-mail Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Which bring me to the following question. I need to know if there is a = way > to send an e-mail to another e-mail account and then to have that = second > e-mail account automatically forward the original e-mail to a number of = other > e-mail addresses? Get a free www.bigfoot.com account which allows to forward an incoming = e-mail to up to 5 different addresses. I have been using their service for years and they are pretty reliable. = My setup is to forward any incoming e-mail to 3 separate e-mail addresses : 1) my usual POP server address 2) a backup POP server in case my HP200LX e-mail system accidentally = deletes all my incoming e-mails on the first POP without letting me read them = first. I clean this inbox once a week or so. 3) a system which screens incoming e-mails on certain keywords contained = in the subject line and notifies me immediatly on my mobile phone on the = arrival of important e-mails. Hope this helps. Regards, \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 08:09:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Fluff Democracy in America Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What this discussion does NOT need is a realist. Vic On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 19:06:06 +0000, "F. Kaufman" wrote: > > We steal the best? > > We give asylum to Nazi's we can use and execute the rest? > > We ignore Cuba but cozzy up to China? > > We are human and fallible like everyone else? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:27:26 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Switching it off. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! I'm still trying to decide whether to stick with my HP200LX for receiving = weatherfaxes or go for an Omnibook to get the faxes in high resolution. My = LX / weatherfax is providing a lot of useful information to me, and I'm = unsure weather the added complication, electricity demands and possibly = fragility of an Omnibook is really worth it for a slightly clearer = picture... I was really hoping someone had made a VGA palmtop, but sadly, = there doesn't seem to be such a beast in existence. As I've already mentioned, generating and storing enough electricity is one = of the major challenges for a cruising sailboat. When coastal cruising, it = is quite normal that the engine is only run for maybe 30 minutes a day when = leaving and entering port. On ocean crossings one may go two or three weeks = without starting the engine and of course in a nice peaceful anchorage, the = last thing one wants is to shatter the atmosphere with infernal = combustions. In an effort to minimise the electricity consumption of my HP200LX, I = though I'd program it to switch on at 04:20, just before the first of the = weatherfaxes I'm interested in comes through, and then switch it off = manually at around noon. However, I've found that as long as it is = connected to external power it seems to be impossible to switch the HP off! = In fact, if I disconnect external power and switch it off, it will come = back on again as soon as I reconnect the external power. Is this normal = behaviour? Is there any way of switching the unit off while external power = is connected? At the moment, it seems the only way around this would be to connect it to = a timer, but I've never seen timers that run off 12V DC. Of course if I did = get hold of such a timer, I might find that it draws more from the ships = batteries than the HP does... PS. I haven't actually dug out my multimeter and measured how much the HP = draws from the ship's batteries while waiting for weatherfaxes, but as I = said, on a sailboat every milliamp counts... Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:27:39 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Fluff: LX Survives Impact MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! A Meshar wrote (>): > For a heathen and an agnostic (at best) you > are so awfully uninformed! :-) The good Lord > sent Jeff there to test him, don't you see this? :) Or to test his LX? :o) Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 08:44:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This gives me an idea, I'd vote for a "handheld" oscilloscope project. Probably take too much external hardware. Maybe there is an A/D converter on a PCMCIA card somewhere. Bryan Alfred Lee wrote: > > I am current working 10% time on a fun IR project. I turn a double speed > LX in an IR scope of sort. I can point any remote at the LX and sort of > ' ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:19:57 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris Randle wrote: > So come on guys & gals, how was your first time with HP? My first HP was an HP25 programmable calculator I bought in about 1975 or 1976. I didn't even understand the 'programmable' part at first but I eventually learned and taught myself to write programs on it. I credit the HP25 with getting me started in computing which has led to my 20+ years with IBM. The HP25 died in the mid 1980s at a time I had no need for a calculator and was playing with pcs and mainframes, so I tossed it out. :-( Big mistake, I've been regretting that decision for a long time. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:54:13 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Switching it off. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hmm... could it be?... Yes! this appears to be an on-topic LX-related question. Wow! On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Owen H. Morgan wrote: > In an effort to minimise the electricity consumption of my HP200LX, I > though I'd program it to switch on at 04:20, just before the first of > the weatherfaxes I'm interested in comes through, and then switch it > off manually at around noon. However, I've found that as long as it is > connected to external power it seems to be impossible to switch the HP > off! In fact, if I disconnect external power and switch it off, it > will come back on again as soon as I reconnect the external power. Is > this normal behaviour? Is there any way of switching the unit off > while external power is connected? Isn't this because you're using rechargeable batteries? IIRC, the LX stays on while charging (so that it can monitor the charging process). I use alkalines in my LX and have no problems turning it off, even while external power is connected. > At the moment, it seems the only way around this would be to connect > it to a timer, but I've never seen timers that run off 12V DC. Of > course if I did get hold of such a timer, I might find that it draws > more from the ships batteries than the HP does... You could turn off charging (ie set it to Alkaline either using the setup or a DOS program (lxstat on SUPER)) at noon, and turn charging back on (using a macro/DOS program) at 4:20? Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 11:54:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Newbie programmer Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > C is a little more challanging overall. Speak for yourself....after cobol, basic, pascal, fortran, and assembly C was a breeze. I just wish I could have used the others on the 200lx. I got pascal to work but none of the others. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 08:59:00 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Subject: PCMCIA Disks and Processors are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition. (3) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available. They are in excellent Condition! One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Two (2) $55.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have (3) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Payment Terms: I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you can send payment to my address at: Scott Moore 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street Beaverton, Or 97006 Notes: I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let you know that your disks are on the way. I always send out disks and other products the very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday. I package all my disks and products in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery. All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to test a customer's new prototype product at work. If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you. If you want Insurance on your package it is .85 to 2.00. If you do not buy insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal errors. Orders outside the USA may be more. No Foreign Checks please! The response over the last few months has been just great! and the people I have worked with have been just Awesome! Thanks alot! Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:09:48 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement, I'd like 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Hal, I think I need one in the near future, but I am not sure if I could disassemble my LX and reassemble it again. Werner on 11 Jan 2001, at 23:21, Andrew King wrote about "Re: Cracked Case Replacement, I'd like 2": > >I mentioned a while back that we were looking to manufacture the case > >part of the 200LX with the HP logo on it to fix hinge cracked cases. > >Long story, but it looks like it will happen. The bad news is that we > >probably won't get them for 4 months. We are about to place our order. > >My question is how many of you think you might want to buy these back > >up cases (in what quantity) say for $25? Hal from Thaddeus > -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:20:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: FLUFF HP Calculators Comments: To: Adrian Ho MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adrian Ho wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Chris Randle wrote: > > > Getting to the point (at last), I'd like to hear the reminiscences of > > people who, in their day, owned cutting-edge HP equipment. I've had an HP laser printer for going on 11 years (still works) plus many many many hp calcs (some of which were stolen). Of course the 200lx (the most cutting edge of all). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:07:20 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Randle said >>I'd like to hear the reminiscences of people who, in their day, owned cutting-edge HP equipment. << My HP Numerology: 25, 28, 38C 65, 67/97, 41-41CX, 12C, 16C (75, 71), --(HP Portable/Plus) 48 and finally the 95, 100, 200 LXs (Oh, several HP, luggables, desktops and a laptop have come and gone.). The HP 25 was good for a few weeks, traded up to a 28 for more programming steps (no memory upgrades back then). Almost the same thing with the 65. It lasted until the 67 (with a card reader) came along. The 97 was the property of the math department at the school where I taught but I was the only one who knew how to program it. The 41C was the first one to make me any money. I also owned the 38C and 12C business calculators and provided training to local realtors and bankers. Wrote a couple of books based on the 16C and the 41CX with the Advantage ROM. Used the 75C and 71B to teach Basic programming for a couple of years. Used the HP Portable to manage programming courses and write articles for The Portable Paper. Continued that with the Portable Plus. I had the HP 48 for several years but did little with it other than play with shareware and freeware and poke around under the hood. Then came the LX series and The HP Palmtop Paper and countless hours of programming, and exploring every nook and cranny of those machines. The only ones remaining are the HP 12C, HP 75 and the HP 200LX (DS/32m). No more. I decided to 'get a life.' Then, last month, Hal Goldstein sent me a Jornada 680 and getting a life has been put on hold. .ed.ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:25:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: 200lx repairs Comments: To: Alfred Lee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alfred Lee wrote: > >It depends on why he is so 'bull headed'. I'll give you my reason why = > >there is no substitute=20 > >in my case. The followings are my reasons: > >1. There isn't quite another palmtop platform with so much software = > >available. > >2. There isn't quite another palmtop platform with so much = > >programming information available. > >3. There isn't quite another palmtop platform with so much hardware = > >information available. > >4. It is the only palmtop platform where it is fully capable and = > >feasible to develop it own software on itself. I do it all the time. > >5. It has one of the longest battery life. > >6. It is also probably the only one with a nearly complete hardware = > >and software documentation (The HP Manual) available. Considering the above, you should have it repaired. There is no device out there that will meet your needs. I've looked at every device under the sun and nothing comes with a million miles of the 200lx. Get it repaired!!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:21:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Fluff: Re: HP-41C or computer onboard shuttle Buran MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, There are actually two big Antonov jetplanes An-124 and An-225, first with 4 jets, latter with 6. The An-225 carried Mrija. One An-124 crashed at Far East, Russia while taking off and wrecked a whole building block. The Buran Space Shuttle actually had a very advanced computer system, by any means. It is able to fly and land unmanned, completely automatic! When it went up for its first and single flight, it only made 2 revolutions of the globe and then landed. Originally it was to make 36-48 hours in orbit, however a few days prior to launch most of the radiation-resistant special RAM cards had to be removed from the on-board computer for use in some more urgent weapons experiment. So there was storage enough for only 2 revs of orbital data. These RAMs were from Japan and smuggled by cheating COCOM, but were available in restricted quantities.When the Buran flew, there was practically no cockpit in it. The seats, instrument panels, wiring, life support systems were mostly missing and uncompleted by the time. The seven cosmonauts/test pilots trained to fly the Buran were very mad learning that it goes up on computer only. Even today no book on space research in Russia fails to mention what a shame that was. People are apparently still somewhat pro-heroism / anti-computer over there. Lack of money /demise of USSR then killed the project. The above mentioned seven pilots were apparently cursed, they all got killed except for one by now; crashed one by one during a relatively short period. The most published case was the crash of a Su-27 at an airshow in Italy. Sincerely: Tamas Feher >I think you talk about the Antonov 224. >seen it once, at the Bourget's Air Show (in 1989, I think). >Space Shuttle on its back... >Unfortunately (to return to HP subjects!), I was not allowed to go in the >Shuttle to see if there was a Russian equivalent of the HP-41 in the >cockpit... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 13:29:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Neill Currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neill Currie Subject: DOS software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This may not be news, but I was trolling around and found this site. May have some "unseen" stuff on it. Read German?? http://www.springwald.de/software/msdos/index.html ............Neill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:38:04 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Chris Randle wrote: > >> Getting to the point (at last), I'd like to hear the reminiscences of >> people who, in their day, owned cutting-edge HP equipment. In 1971, working as an agricultural economist in an irrigation project in the Gran Chaco south of Santa Cruz/Bolivia, FAO/Rome had us equipped with FACIT mechanical calculators (the ones you had to turn a handle forth and back on the right hand side, remember ?). After 2 months of use they started squeaking of all the alluvial soils of the Rio Grande and gave up (they also sent us a Honda street racing motorcycle to service the irrigation canals). I do not remember how I got the news of a revolutionary electronic calculator built by a certain HP company in California (or was it Colorado then ?) that seemed to be dust proof AND HAD A POWER FUNCTION, just what I needed to project demand for the array of crops we would be producing for the world market in 2001... I happily sent 1,700 US$ (one thousand seven hundred) over to California (or Colorado) for the HP 35. My heart beat was at about 120 when I opened the package and pushed some of the small buttons that clicked, just as they do on our 200 HPLX. Demand projections were accordingly optimistic .... So much for the HP 35. About the rest of them - HP 65, HP 67, HP97, HP41, 95 HPLX, 100HPLX, 200HPLX (2, 4, 32, 96MB) - I'll wait until this thread comes up again (in about a year or so ?). As for nostalgic threads: remember the wonderful "micro computer" HP9830 with it's 1 line/32 letter display and tape drive ? Dear memories creeping up .... Regards Winfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 20:39:48 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: FS: LED light auction on EBay! Comments: cc: privat@thomas-stiegler.de, rowu@tfh-berlin.de, luettjohann@gmx.de, udo@sfb288.math.tu-berlin.de, garzotto@acm.org, horst.pratsch@infineon.com, sg77768@i-one.at, tdragon@mailandnews.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, you can now bid on a LED light (see http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight for more information) on ebay. item number is 1207667018 Additional information about international payment: I'll accept cheques up to a value of 99 DM. If the price goes up to more than 100 DM, we have to split it up into 2 cheques. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 15:09:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Also, it would be nice if non-programmers could participate either > >by learning a little programming with the help of the programmers. > >Are there any ideas? Lx Office? Quake for the lx? A LinuX clone? > >Power Mac emulation? Flight Sim lx? The Sims lx? Lx Turbo Tax? > >3D Studio Max lx? Autocad lx? The possibities are only limited by > >our abilities, but there must be something we can pull off. I would also like to see more options to sync or swap data with other desktop PIM applications. In particular I am thinking of Cris Lott's work on the HP2REX program. Unfortunately I have no particlar programming skills (I'm usually happy if I can manage installation). Perhaps I should be raising money to send Cris back to Hawaii? -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:10:45 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: MUP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Probably not a highly significant MUP, but I'm sitting in the Purdue fieldhouse at a Big Ten track meet waiting for my son's event, so I thought I'd log on with my StarTAC and send an e-mail to the list! :) Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:30:30 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Group Project Bryan Biggers writes: > This gives me an idea, I'd vote for a "handheld" oscilloscope > project. Probably take too much external hardware. Maybe there is > an A/D converter on a PCMCIA card somewhere. Bryan I agree, a 200LX oscilloscope would be way cool. I'm guessing a PCMCIA interface would be preferable, since the serial port's speed would be a limiting factor. Would an A to D converter really be necessary? I would think something like this could be implemented in analog. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 14:49:36 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators Adrian Ho writes: > On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Chris Randle wrote: > > > Getting to the point (at last), I'd like to hear the reminiscences of > > people who, in their day, owned cutting-edge HP equipment. > > Reading your post reminded me of an HP11C that I won in a competition 15 > years ago. Digging through a pile of aged equipment yielded a hard flat > object in a battered black leather case. I pulled it out, took a deep > breath, hit the ON button...and was off to the races. I bought an HP11C in 1988 after becoming disgusted with the random key response of my TI calculator. It took some getting used to, but once I got over the learning stage I loved it. I was distraught when the unit was destroyed in a car crash in 1991--it had gasoline spilled on it and the keys/keyboard were melted. The 11C had been discontinued by then, so I couldn't replace it, but I *was* able to send it to HP for repairs. They sent back what looked like a brand new calculator, and it only cost me about $30! I still have that calculator and use it sometimes when my 200LX isn't handy. One of the reasons I chose an HP calculator back in '88 was the strong recommendation it got from one of my chemistry professors. An example of his high regard for HP was his astonishment that I could have even done such a thing when I spelled `Hewlett' wrong in a lab report! We had used an HP integrator in an HPLC lab and I think I spelled it Hewlit. The recent obituary reminded me of this too. It's one name I never mispelled again! > As for the "decline" in quality of HP handhelds, I haven't had that > experience. My 200LX was "born" in 1995. Since then, it's endured > half-a-dozen unprotected falls (in one case, it was also moving sideways > at a good clip and hit a wall first). My sense is that my 200LX is very solidly built, but not as rugged as my HP11C is. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 13:25:16 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I waited until I could find an HP 1) reasonably priced 2) and programmable Then came the HP25 in 1975 for $200. I programmed all the problems from my Fortran class 10 years previous. I could do them all -- and get the same answers -- and I did not have to wait for days! So... HP25, HP25C, HP29C, HP41C, HP41CV, HP41CX, HP15C, HP42C, HP200LX-4MB. Still have the 41CX, 42C and 200LX, all close to new condition and not for sale. I managed to get the complete financial calculations into the 98 steps of the 29C. Used a modified runge-kutta or something like that. I did a quintic on the 29C -- had to help it occasionally to speed up the results so it would finish calculations in about 5 days. Then using the the 41C during a non-linear systems graduate course, I ran a set of non-linear four variable simultaneous equations and plotted them on the companion printer/plotter with help of the synthetic programming stuff to plot four all variables. Only took overnight to complete the results. Others were using mainframes and Tektronics minicomputers to get their results. Then I got this 200LX 3 years ago. One of these days when I get a round tuit I'll read the manual and figure out how to use all the built in stuff. Bob -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 13:33:15 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: StarTac ST7868W As A Modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Been fiddling with Starfish TrueSync. I have taken a name/phone number list from Lotus, imported into Excel, saved as tab delineated text, imported into TrueSync then; then low and behold, downloaded into the ST7868W. Amazing! If I make changes, I just overwrite the previous stuff. Would be easy enough to clone StarTac phone address books. Bob If this has been addressed before, please forgive, I only have only 259 messages on the LX list to look over, plus old ST7868W stuff. -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 16:16:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jack Hill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack Hill Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about synchronization with Lotus notes also (not everyone uses Outlook) How about a way of reading the latest pdf formats? Does this have to be a programming project? How about a grass roots effort to have some companies make available their old dos versions of products as abandonware? Similar to how Borland has made available some of their compilers -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Automatic digest processor Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 12:00 AM To: Recipients of HPLX-L digests Subject: HPLX-L Digest - 12 Jan 2001 (#2001-20) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:10:15 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: EFF support MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Those of us LX owners that are members of this list are also members of the online community. We gain much from this online community but do we give anything back? In particular are you a supporter of the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)? If not then check the EFF out and see for yourself if they are doing useful work fighting against restrictive legislation that benefits large corporations at your expense. http://www.eff.org They have a newsletter you can subscribe to to find out what kind of projects they are working on. Give it a try if you're not sure the EFF is for you. Are there any other EFF supporters here besides me? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:55:03 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: StarTac ST7868W As A Modem Robert K. Meyer writes: > I have taken a name/phone number list from Lotus, imported into Excel, > saved as tab delineated text, imported into TrueSync then; then low and > behold, downloaded into the ST7868W. Amazing! DOH! Wish I'd thought about that before setting up *my* ST7868W. I used the OmniBook version of PhoneBook on my desktop to cut and paste between my 200LX PhoneBook and the TrueSync contact file. This was better than entering them all would have been, but a SmartClip would have been even easier. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 00:21:00 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Fluff: Re: HP-41C or computer onboard shuttle Buran In-Reply-To: <3A60AAC5.12520.6E3233@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:21:41 +0100 Feher Tamas a =E9crit: > The Buran Space Shuttle actually had a very advanced computer system, > by any means. It is able to fly and land unmanned, completely automatic! I was not criticized the Buran's computer system.=20 If I cited HP-41, it is because this HP calculator was used in the firsts US space shutlte missions... Not as the only computer, of course (), but it was used (if I remember) to do auxiliary calculus during atmosphere re-entry. If you look at one of the firsts Imax/Omnimax movies about a space mission (don't remember the title), you clearly see it for a few seconds... Some HP-41 advertisings were even based about the space shuttle missions... Jacques. --=20 The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 00:21:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: William Hewelett is Dead at 87 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:33:02 -0500 A Meshar a =E9crit: > It was announced that W. Hewlett of Hewlett-Packard died on > Friday morning of natural causes at 87 years. HP's homepage ( http://www.hp.com ) has been updated.=20 Click on Bill's photo to see the press release. Jacques. --=20 The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:16:55 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sat, 13 Jan 2001 03:16:46 +0000 Chris Randle a =E9crit: > So come on guys & gals, how was your first time with HP?=20 My very first time ? One afternoon, somewere in 1978, when I found an HP25 at the desk of one of my uncles's home. :-) Tried it one of two hours....=20 =2E..big error ! () : 1979 : My first "real" calculator : an HP-29 1980 : Learning programming.. : HP-31C 1981 : digits is good, but it is better with alpha : HP-41C (followed by HP41CV + Card reader + thermic printer + HP-IL + data cartrige reader + several modules : maths, time, x-functions + x-memory + .....) 1987 : Let's do Basic and ASM... : HP-71 + Card reader + Thinkjet printer + HP-IL floppy reader. 1992 : Ms-Dos rules... : HP95 1994 : Better with a good screen... : HP100LX=20 (two months before the HP200 release :-( ) 1996 : Play again : Lost the HP100, return to HP95... :-( 1999 : HP200 :-) =20 Plus, somewhere in early 1990s, a friend gave me an HP35 !!! (no, I don't sell it !) Well, during that period, turned from an inventive engineers's company to a WindowsCE/Microsoft's affiliate, conducted _only_ by financial interests.... So I don't think that I will buy another HP product.... And today, whith Bill Hewlett's death, I think we can say that the HP we admired is definitely entered in history... Jacques. PS : for those interested about old HP calculators, don't forget the http://www.hpmuseum.org site, where there is a forum which seems to be yet very active.... --=20 The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:40:49 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Newbie programmer Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken London" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: Re: Newbie programmer > Barry wrote: > > > C is a little more challanging overall. > > Speak for yourself....after cobol, basic, pascal, fortran, and assembly > C was a breeze. I just wish I could have used the others on the 200lx. > I got pascal to work but none of the others. I've made all those work on the 200lx except fortran and I believe Microsoft fortran is likely to run on it. There are a number of implementations of basic that will work on the 200lx. Qbasic, QuickBasic, Microsoft Professional Basic, Power Basic, BASM, ASIC, VB for Dos and a lot of others that I've found on the web and tried. Including one that's a tsr. Microsoft Cobol will run on the 200lx. I can't remember the version number now but it's an older one. Masm through version 5.1 works fine. I haven't tried 6.0 and up. I think they require a 386. Tasm versions earlier than 4 work fine. A86 works fine on the 200lx. So do Chasm, Wasm and a few others on the web. Microsoft C through version 6.0 runs on the 200lx. Turbo C through version 2.0 works fine. Borland C++ through version 2.0 works, too. It's a little slow but not unbearable. PCC (the old Desmet C) works great. Mix Power C works. Even Quincy, the C interpreter works. Quick C runs just fine. Small C works. In fact I even tried out the CP/M version of Small C on the 200lx with a CP/M emulator. Worked just fine. Kind of slow, though. And I used Timex Sinclair Basic with a Timex Sinclair emulator. I know I've made others work but I can't remember offhand which ones they were. I've also succesfully tried dozens of implementations of Forth, Lisp, Scheme, Rexx, Perl, Logo, Pilot, Modula II, and others that I can't recall. I suspect you might have tried using a lot of late versions that need a 386 or better, or else you used IDEs with debuggers in them. They'll fail. Most debuggers won't work on the 200lx. If you want a good combination of compiler/assembler/debugger, Microsoft's symdeb will work just fine with Masm, Microsoft C, Turbo C, Tasm, Microsoft Fortran (assuming that works on the 200lx) and maybe Microsoft Cobol. I don't think I've actually tried that. No, I'm not bragging. I don't know all those languages. I know the ones you mentioned, except fortran. I once had to fix a bug in someone's fortran program when he was out of town and that's my only exposure to fortran. And my Pascal experience is fairly light. The others that I've tried were mostly just to play enough to see if they work ok. Except forth, which I've used a little bit. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:58:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: SRAM cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > How does the LX see them? As a 1.5M A: disk?? The SRAM cards from Thaddues show up as a 1.5 Meg A: drive in Filer. You = can boot from them if you put a config.sys file on them. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:58:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: FLUFF: Why this list is as great as America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > That's odd; according to www.census.gov, as of 01 nov 2000, there are > ~276,059,000 people in the United States, of which ~226,861,000, or = 82.2%, > are white. Does that include Hispanics? Most classifications lump Hispanics in with whites unless they are focusing on minorities. Then they seperate out a "white, non-hispanic" category to peg as the "majority" Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:58:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Switching it off. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > However, I've found that as long as it is connected > to external power it seems to be impossible to switch the HP off! If battery charging in enabled, the palmtop will not turn off when = plugged into the AC adaptor. You can turn off battery charging and then the palmtop = should behave as expected. If you want to be able to turn the palmtop off while charging, look for a program called killmsg.zip on the Super site www.palmtop.net for a solution. If you can't find it, let me know and I = will E-mail a copy. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:53:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: StarTac ST7868W As A Modem Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" In-Reply-To: <3A5FD1C8.A4AA8EB1@union-tel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Received the Data Connectivity Kit for the ST7868W. If anyone else would like this product, I was accidently sent 2 (and paid for 'em) when I ordered only one. And it's been so long I can't return it. E-mail me off-list at mailto:jimdoc@iname.com -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 20:14:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Q: Regarding Mitsubishi phone & 200LX - model T250? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_048A_01C07D9D.7D349770" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_048A_01C07D9D.7D349770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It is claimed to have a modem, but I can't confirm how to access it, nor = how to use it on AT&T network, any advice, exp, etc. would be = appreciated. Also, any suggestions for alternate phones offered from AT&T (see = www.attws.com ) would also be appreciated (they have what appear to be = the best offering in my area, and PocketNet service looks = interesting...). Thanks in advance, Ken ------=_NextPart_000_048A_01C07D9D.7D349770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It is claimed to have a modem, but I = can't confirm=20 how to access it, nor how to use it on AT&T network, any advice, = exp, etc.=20 would be appreciated.
 
Also, any suggestions for alternate = phones offered=20 from AT&T (see www.attws.com ) = would also=20 be appreciated (they have what appear to be the best offering in my = area, and=20 PocketNet service looks interesting...).
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Ken
------=_NextPart_000_048A_01C07D9D.7D349770-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 20:19:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Fluff why this list is as great as America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "hobchi" To: Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:53 AM Subject: Re: Fluff why this list is as great as America > --- Ken London wrote: > > Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > > > > > Umm . . . you mean that 49% whites and 51% > > non-whites makes whites a > > > minority? Please review the math. Or > > perhaps the boxes (whites vs > > > non-whites). > > > > Last time I looked 49% was less than 50% and > > that you needed 51% to have a > > majority. > > > > Dis is roket scientist math.... > 49% is larga den any udda grp. > witch makes it a MAJORITEE. That's ok, Al. Some people will never get it. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 04:24:28 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Newbie programmer In-Reply-To: <000501c07dc2$a4b18a40$74fe36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I've made all those work on the 200lx except fortran and I believe > Microsoft fortran is likely to run on it. Correct. I have MS Fortran running on my LX. I believe it's version 5.0. It requires installation on a regular PC first cuz it keeps asking you to feed it floppies during the install. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 20:35:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: InfoSelect TSR Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Kaufman" To: Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 11:24 PM Subject: Re: InfoSelect TSR Question > Now that those recesses have been exercised, do I remember that IS could > also split notes on, was it a line of dashes or something like that? > That might lead to a way of loading a db of sorts into IS. That's how I uploaded a lot of my Palm info into IS on my HPLX. The only thing is that it took a long time and trial and error to get it just right, so I would do it only as a last resort. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 19:46:50 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > How about synchronization with Lotus notes > also (not everyone uses Outlook) One approach could be to make a synch program with one open end. The 200lx at one end and whatever anybody wants to write another end for. The trick to that would be coming up with some kind of intermediate format that could fit just about anything that someone might want to adapt. I've never written much software to be sold so I don't really know how to go about something like that. I always did in-house stuff. But I bet there are people on this list that would know how to aproach that. > How about a way of reading the latest pdf formats? That would sure be useful but I'm not sure it would be a good project for a large group. It might be good for one or two or three people. > Does this have to be a programming project? > How about a grass roots effort to have some > companies make available their old dos versions > of products as abandonware? Actually, abandonware is software where the author can't be found. And there are a lot of abandonware sites on the web. Personally I feel free to use any software that's no longer published and where a later version won't work on my platform. Barry's Law. :) In any case a lot of groups are working hard to get publishers to do that and it's starting to happen. > Similar to how Borland has made available some > of their compilers Let's hear it for Borland! A long time ago they began selling a "license to copy" for their old compilers. For $50 you could become a legal owner of Turbo C 2.0 but they didn't give it to you. You had to copy someone else's but that was legal. They got a lot of criticism for this but I thought they were doing a good thing. I suspect it cost them more than they made on it. And a lot of people got to use their software legally. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:12:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: infoselect question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I almost converted to Flexpad several times, then decided against it because of it's lack of export capacity, specially with the fancy formatting headers. Domingo (before anyone complains, I don't know why Outlook indents and formats the original message sometimes, and sometimes not. It did not do it this time, so I did not bother to fix it by hand to put the answer at the end). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Randle" To: Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:16 PM Subject: Re: infoselect question Before you commit yourself (too late?) have a look at FlexPad. it's shareware ($35 I think). It might solve all your problems. http://www.jps.net/flexpad ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:38:25 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Carne Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Carne Subject: Hisword MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Is anyone using Hisword with the American Standard Version (ASV)? I downloaded and installed Online Bible with the ASV version from http://www.onlinebible.simplenet.com/downldos.htm successfully to create the data files. When I transfered the data files (asv directory) to my palmtop and tried to use them with Hisword I received the following error. 'xrefndxs.dat file missing'. Hisword runs fine with the King James Version that I downloaded from the Hisword website. Can anyone offer advice on creating the datafiles or send me the datafiles for the ASV? Thank you, Gary __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 04:21:56 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Q: Regarding Mitsubishi phone & 200LX - model T250? Comments: To: Ken Hansen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > It is claimed to have a modem, but I can't confirm how to access it, nor how to use it on AT&T network, any advice, exp, etc. would be > appreciated. I think you need to be sure it can do DATA!! You'd need the cable and possible a gender changer or null modem adapter. Does AT&T offer the Motorola Startac or Timeport? That one does work - you just need the cable. On Verizon, you need to use the digital and it probably is the same with AT&T. I've use WWW/lx and Accis (cis access software with the 200 and the Timeport) And maybe others on the list know, there may be some phones that do need Win9x as they may contain 'winmodem' and not a full independent modem???? If so, those would not work with the 200. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 04:22:00 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: StarTac ST7868W As A Modem Comments: To: theise@netins.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Robert K. Meyer writes: > > > I have taken a name/phone number list from Lotus, imported into Excel, > > saved as tab delineated text, imported into TrueSync then; then low and > > behold, downloaded into the ST7868W. Amazing! > > DOH! Wish I'd thought about that before setting up *my* ST7868W. I > used the OmniBook version of PhoneBook on my desktop to cut and paste > between my 200LX PhoneBook and the TrueSync contact file. This was > better than entering them all would have been, but a SmartClip would > have been even easier. I believe that you can also use Curtis Cameron's Outlook=HP converter program to move data and then Truesync supports Outlook. While I don't use Outlook, I do have it installed but I'm not sure if it was necessary to use the converter. I wonder if you need an outlook/database file to begin with. I imagine someone could upload an empty ooutlook file to Super if one is needed, if that would allow functioning. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:39:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Hisword MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Carne" To: Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 9:38 PM Subject: Hisword > Is anyone using Hisword with the American Standard > Version (ASV)? I downloaded and installed Online > Bible with the ASV version from > http://www.onlinebible.simplenet.com/downldos.htm > successfully to create the data files. When I > transfered the data files (asv directory) to my > palmtop and tried to use them with Hisword I received > the following error. 'xrefndxs.dat file missing'. > Hisword runs fine with the King James Version that I > downloaded from the Hisword website. Thanks for reminding me. I informed Tom about this problem a while ago and he requested a test file, which I forgot to send out due to moving to another state. I sent him the link today. Hopefully he'll remember our previous conversation. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 22:07:42 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Group Project In-Reply-To: <001101c07dcb$dda3b360$74fe36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > How about synchronization with Lotus notes > > also (not everyone uses Outlook) > > One approach could be to make a synch program with one open end. > The 200lx at one end and whatever anybody wants to write another end > for. The trick to that would be coming up with some kind of > intermediate format that could fit just about anything that someone > might want to adapt. A single intermediate format to fit everything might be hard to find but a library of functions that could read and write the LX formats would be a good start. There's a PAL extension that can read certain formats. Curt Cameron has a lot of experience in conversion. There's also Donald Collins' GDB32 project. If this knowledge could be combined into a portable library with read-write capability for all the file formats, then different people could work on syncing (or at least interconverting) to whatever platform or software they are interested in. Speaking of PAL, a multi-line edit box that supports basic functions like cut, copy, paste and word-wrap would be great. Has anyone done this? And I'm still waiting patiently for David Becher to release his mods to the PAL library. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 22:22:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: StarTac ST7868W As A Modem Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My version 2.02 has a button specifically for Outlook 97/98. "F. Kaufman" wrote: > I believe that you can also use Curtis Cameron's Outlook=HP converter > program to move data and then Truesync supports Outlook. While I don't > use Outlook, I do have it installed but I'm not sure if it was necessary > to use the converter. I wonder if you need an outlook/database file to > begin with. I imagine someone could upload an empty ooutlook file to > Super if one is needed, if that would allow functioning. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 22:55:17 -0800 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: USER 1 Subject: Re: 200lx repairs Comments: To: Ken London MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Ken London wrote: > > Alfred Lee wrote: > > > >It depends on why he is so 'bull headed'. I'll give you my reason why = > > >there is no substitute=20 > > >in my case. The followings are my reasons: > > >1. There isn't quite another palmtop platform with so much software = > > >available. > > >2. There isn't quite another palmtop platform with so much = > > >programming information available. > > >3. There isn't quite another palmtop platform with so much hardware = > > >information available. > > >4. It is the only palmtop platform where it is fully capable and = > > >feasible to develop it own software on itself. I do it all the time. > > >5. It has one of the longest battery life. > > >6. It is also probably the only one with a nearly complete hardware = > > >and software documentation (The HP Manual) available. > > Considering the above, you should have it repaired. There is no device out > there that will meet your needs. I've looked at every device under the sun > and nothing comes with a million miles of the 200lx. Get it repaired!!! > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml I agree with Ken get it repair!!! Bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:38:22 -0800 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: USER 1 Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators Comments: To: Jacques Belin MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Jacques Belin wrote: >=20 > Le Sat, 13 Jan 2001 03:16:46 +0000 > Chris Randle a =E9crit: >=20 > > So come on guys & gals, how was your first time with HP? >=20 > My very first time ? >=20 > One afternoon, somewere in 1978, when I found an HP25 at the desk o= f one > of my uncles's home. :-) Tried it one of two hours.... >=20 > ...big error ! () : >=20 > 1979 : My first "real" calculator : an HP-29 > 1980 : Learning programming.. : HP-31C > 1981 : digits is good, but it is better with alpha : HP-41C > (followed by HP41CV + Card reader + thermic printer + > HP-IL + data cartrige reader + several modules : maths, = time, > x-functions + x-memory + .....) > 1987 : Let's do Basic and ASM... : HP-71 + Card reader + Thinkjet > printer + HP-IL floppy reader. > 1992 : Ms-Dos rules... : HP95 > 1994 : Better with a good screen... : HP100LX > (two months before the HP200 release :-( ) > 1996 : Play again : Lost the HP100, return to HP95... :-( > 1999 : HP200 :-) >=20 > Plus, somewhere in early 1990s, a friend gave me an HP35 !!! (no, I > don't sell it !) >=20 > Well, during that period, turned from an inventive engineers's comp= any > to a WindowsCE/Microsoft's affiliate, conducted _only_ by financial > interests.... So I don't think that I will buy another HP product..= .. >=20 > And today, whith Bill Hewlett's death, I think we can say that the = HP we > admired is definitely entered in history... >=20 > Jacques. > PS : for those interested about old HP calculators, don't forget th= e > http://www.hpmuseum.org site, where there is a forum which seems to= be > yet very active.... > -- > The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. > "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... > --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's st= ory >=20 > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml My first was working for small Eng firm where we use slip sticks (sli= de rules) One day in comes an=20 Eng student we had hire'd for the summer. Had a pocket case on his be= lt (inside was a HP35) ALL OF US WANTED TO MAKE FIRENDS WITH THIS BOY LIKE NOW!! FROM THAT DAY ON I F= ELL IN LOVE WITH THIS WONDERFUL Eng calc BOY!! WHAT A QUALITY CONTROL HP HAS I STILL HAVE MY HP 35,41CX,HP 48SX,HP95LX, HP 200LX,HP 320LX,HP620LX. WHAT A HISTORY!! --------Bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 23:58:51 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This does exist but required external hardware. See: http://www.geocities.com/alfred1520/#ezscope Unfortunately the required hardware is now difficult to find. Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Biggers To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Saturday, January 13, 2001 6:45 AM Subject: Re: Group Project >This gives me an idea, I'd vote for a "handheld" oscilloscope >project. Probably take too much external hardware. Maybe there is >an A/D converter on a PCMCIA card somewhere. Bryan > > >Alfred Lee wrote: >> >> I am current working 10% time on a fun IR project. I turn a double speed >> LX in an IR scope of sort. I can point any remote at the LX and sort of >> ' > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 03:50:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: SRAM cards Comments: To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steve, > The SRAM cards from Thaddues show up as a 1.5 Meg A: drive in Filer. You can > boot from them if you put a config.sys file on them. I have some of these too, and they are really fince cards on the Palmtop. I tried them in Win98 and Win98 recognizes them as SRAM cards, but I am not sure what now... They do not show up as a drive or anything... Any ideas on how see them in Windows? TIA Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 18:17:36 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Group Project In-Reply-To: <001101c07dcb$dda3b360$74fe36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, Barry wrote: > One approach could be to make a synch program with one open end. The > 200lx at one end and whatever anybody wants to write another end for. Agreed. > The trick to that would be coming up with some kind of intermediate > format that could fit just about anything that someone might want to > adapt. From what I've seen, the LX file formats are by far the most flexible. They're all openly-modifiable databases, after all -- something that no other PDA / PIM I've used comes close to accomplishing. Coming up with an intermediate format is therefore (IMO) unnecessary. Having watched TrueSync mangle the sync between my Rex & Palm & their respective desktop programs (both of which were supposed to be "connected"), I'd say it may also result in unexpected data loss. I'd use the LX file formats as the base, and convert to everything else in the world from it. That way, you could have every byte of info in your LX, and sync over whatever subsets your other devices/PIMs can handle. My personal wishes: Ý1¨ A small IRDA-enabled program that allowed me to beam my vCard to anyone else (well, Palms and WinCE devices at least). IR syncing to other devices would also be nice, but not necessary. Ý2¨ A Rex-N (N=3,5,6?) sync program for the LX (Chris Lott seems to have done quite a bit for the Rex-3 already). Being able to inject my vCard only would also be nice, in case my contact only carries a Rex. While we're on the subject: Has anyone come up with a good solid open-source IRDA API for the LX? With all due respect to D&A, using their IR program to do the transfer would be clumsy at best. -- - Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 01:46:47 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan Lombaard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Lombaard Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where did you find the info regarding IR remote control on the palmtop? I have always thought that it would be great to have a C application library to enable anyone even with limited experience in IR signal standards or serial communication programming to write programs using the IR port. I even bought the HP technical manual in the hope that it would help but the info was not quite sufficient. There are at least 2 very good programs available for TV remote control. I have contacted the authors of both requesting info on how to receive & transmit TV remote type signals on the HP LX. Neither of them responded to my email. I program as a hobby and it seemed like a nice project with the idea that one might be able to expand that into a device controlling say a Lego Mindstorm robot or a X10 home automation/security system. Regards, Stefan Lombaard > Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:30:45 -0800 > From: Alfred Lee > Subject: Re: Group Project > > I am current working 10% time on a fun IR project. I turn a double speed > LX in an IR scope of sort. I can point any remote at the LX and sort of > 'see' what the IR signal look like. The next phase will be to decode them. > I have managed to decode one of 5 remotes in my possession. This is > not going to be too useful as there already are several excellent IR remote > program available. This project is interesting in that you get to learn how > does remote work. I don't know if this is going to be useful or interesting > to more than a very few. If there are sufficient interest, I can be try to > gather up enough drive to make it available. > > Alfred > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:59:37 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Switching it off. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote (>): > Hmm... could it be?... Yes! this appears to > be an on-topic LX-related question. Wow! :o) > Isn't this because you're using rechargeable batteries? IIRC, > the LX stays on while charging (so that it can monitor the > charging process). I use alkalines in my LX and have no > problems turning it off, even while external power is > connected. Aha! So that's why. I did sort of remember I'd been able to switch it off = before, but gathered I must be wrong. > You could turn off charging (ie set it to Alkaline either using > the setup or a DOS program (lxstat on SUPER)) at noon, and > turn charging back on (using a macro/DOS program) at 4:20? I'll look into this tomorrow. I should be able to get lxstat to switch the = charging on and off with the same batch file I use to start the weatherfax = software. All I'd need to do then was program the HP to run the batch file = at 04:20 every morning and then exit the weatherfax software and thus = complete the batch file and switch charging off again when I've looked at = the faxes around noon. Very elegant! Now, if I could only switch the radio = receiver on and off automatically at the same times... Any pointers on how to get the Calendar app to run the batch file, or is = that so easy it's self evident? Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 10:36:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Group Project Comments: To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>There's also Donald Collins' GDB32 project. gdb32 seems to have died a natural death as far as I can tell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:44:42 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: DOS software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 13:29:59 -0500, Neill Currie wrote: > This may not be news, but I was trolling around and found this site. May > have some "unseen" stuff on it. Read German?? I can read German quite a bit ;-) > http://www.springwald.de/software/msdos/index.html ............Neill Here is what could be interesting for the palmtop (I didn't test these software items, I just translate what is written on the page): - Devil Land Jump'n'Run - nothing to translate - CD-Store - multimedial Audio CD database - C-Desk - graphical information surface (or interface) - C-Desk VR - coder software for vortual reality components - The Dutchman's return - graphic adventure for MS-DOS - VecLab - vecorizing tool for graphic files Sounds if no one of these software items would run on he LX... But one can never know. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:47:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Switching it off Hi Owen, I don't know if this info will be useful to you in solving your problem, but I've noticed in the past that when my power connected (with alkaline batteries inside) HP200LX's serial port received any data at all while it was turned off, the data coming into the serial port turned my HP200LX on automatically. I noticed this when I used to have my HP200LX connected directly to my network via it's serial port. If you can set your HP200LX to turn off automatically after 2 minutes of inactivity (can buddy do that?), you would probably only need a timer for the device (radio?) that actually sends the weather data to your HP200LX's serial port. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 17:42:03 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Connecting to the Internet in mid ocean MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! A few days ago Dr. Werner Furlan wrote (>): > There is a possibility via HF radio. Look at > www.kielradio.de. I was aware that you can do e-mail by HF-radio, both from Marine HF-radio = and amateur radio, but was not aware that it is possible to look at web = sites. Still, I don't think it would be a practical solution for receiving = isobar weather charts. At least not more practical than weatherfax. If you = have the hardware to get on the net via HF-radio, you also have the = hardware for weatherfaxes. Some friends of mine sailed to Mexico last winter and used a service called = SailMail via their Marine HF radio. The cost was not too bad, but they were = asked to help keep the traffic down, and attachments etc. were of course = out of the question. They only gave their SailMail e-mail address to a = select few friends, and got their daughter to monitor the stuff that came = in on their regular account and prune and forward what she considered worth = sending to them. Any idea if SailMail or similar services for amateur radio would work with = the HPLX? AFAIK these services can work both with dedicated software and = with a simple terminal emulator. If the dedicated software will run on the = LX, I could use that, but if it doesn't, I might as well use the terminal = emulator in my MC218 which has a better screen and keyboard. Owen (Who is seriously considering getting a HAM licence.) -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 17:42:15 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi A few days ago Stefan Peichl wrote (>): > CGA has only 16kb display memory > therefore I think, this limit has nothing to do with > the display memory size. Well, I don't know what it is then, but the fact remains that when it = reaches 256186 bytes, the weatherfax software stops receiving, and saves = the file to disk whether it's reached the end of the fax or not. This only = applies to three of the weatherfaxes I receive from Offenbach, but sadly = one of the most important faxes is cut off just east of Greenland. Every = once in a while, the people at Offenbach put the sheet in the fax machine = the other way around, and I get the area I'm interested in. > What you need is a way to save the weatherfax in a > standard picture format to disk and then use LXPIC to > view it. No problem to view 16 gray scale VGA images > with LXPIC on the palmtop. Using LXPIC to view the faxes would not help at all, as the remainder of = the fax was never received, so it is not on my palmtop and cannot be viewed = in any format. Since the fax is only received in low resolution, viewing it = in LXpic won't bring out any more detail either. When the incoming fax is = shorter than 256186 bytes, the software stops at the end of the fax and = saves to disk like it should, and this applies to most of the faxes from = Offenbach. If I try to set the weatherfax software to high resolution mode I get the = error message: "Super VGA and 1 Megabyte of EMS memory required." Oops, I = just realized, the Omnibook I've been thinking of won't be much good to me = then. It only has VGA, not Super VGA... Drat! A friend of mine had the exact same behaviour with a totally different = software package when using it with a CGA monitor, so I assumed it was due = to the size of the display memory. Both WeFax 3.2 which I am using and the = American HfFax 7.0 software my friend's has will receive the complete faxes = in high resolution if using a SVGA monitor and some upper memory. I tried to run WeFax from within Norton Commander, and also loaded some = TSR's to eat up some memory, but the limit remains the same, exactly 256186 = bytes, so it's not an available DOS memory issue. PS. There's going to be a force 8 - 9 gale this evening. I don't know if = the fact that I have weatherfax and know it's coming makes it any better... = :o) Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 10:55:31 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Ýfluff¨ HF packet in the ocean MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hi! > > A few days ago Dr. Werner Furlan wrote (>): > > > There is a possibility via HF radio. Look at > > www.kielradio.de. > > I was aware that you can do e-mail by HF-radio, both from Marine HF-radio and amateur radio, but was not aware that it is possible to look at web sites. Still, I don't think it would be a practical solution for receiving isobar weather charts. At least not more practical than weatherfax. If you have the hardware to get on the net via HF-radio, you also have the hardware for weatherfaxes. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 11:07:12 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Ýfluff¨ HF packet in the ocean MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops, I forgot to include any actual text! Probably more interesting that way, I know... What I wanted to say was that HF packet does not work well enough to run TCPIP with any real throughput. I've tried it for a month. At 300 baud, with all the interference and millions of retransmissions and timeouts, and people who think that the frequencies are "theirs" and have set aggressive timeouts, you will be lucky to get a few pages of text through per day, especially with the low powered equipment and marginal antenna that you would have on a boat. I seriously doubt that you would ever be able to get a 250K weather chart though. I'd look for another solution than HF packet. Bryan N9GBJ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:54:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Switching it off. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Any pointers on how to get the Calendar app to run the batch file, > or is that so easy it's self evident? Create an appointment with a vertical bar (Shift-Backslash) followed by = the name of the batch file. Set the alarm to go off. At the appointed time, = the specified file will be run. For example |c:\util\stuff.bat in the description field will run stuff.bat in the c:\util subdirectory. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:17:36 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! Barry wrote (>): > One approach could be to make a synch > program with one open end. The 200lx at > one end and whatever anybody wants to > write another end for. > The trick to that would be coming up with > some kind of intermediate format that could > fit just about anything that someone > might want to adapt. For syncing addressbooks, I suppose VCARD might be an idea. It's not = perfect, but it is already supported by lots of platforms. I don't use the = HP for anything other than weatherfaxes, so please forgive my ignorance if = VCARD is already supported. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:22:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: Group Project Comments: To: Stefan Lombaard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Various information are needed for IR programming on the LX: 1. Hardware The HP technical manual (I don't recall the exact name but I do have access to a copy) provides the basic hardware control information of the HP hardware. This is necessary so one knows how to create the first version of the software (which I have already done.) 2. A brief theory of IR communication. This describes various IR communication format. The HP manual covers to some extend. Additional information are: http://www.fatti.com/guests/engdahl/opto.html http://www.us-epanorama.net/opto.html http://www.gis.net/~dnegro/IR/ 3. Specific IR remote protocol. This describes the exact IR format of a particular IR remote. Limited information is available in the URL above. I have not been able to verify that the IR format actually agrees with the description above. More works could be done. *********** On the other hand, learning remote programs, like the two you quoted, could be created without actually decoding the IR message. One can record and replay the IR stream. The is actually attractive because one need not decode the message and thus will work on all removes. However, if the IR message can be decoded, we can then remote control the LX. That may be interesting. For example, switch the LX in IR mode and receive IR commands. In turn, switch the LX back to wired mode and send command to other serial devices. *********** Finally, I am now engaged in reverse engineering the communication protocol of the Casio PC Unite watch: http://www.casio.com/watches/product.cfm?section=16&product=1717&display=21& cid=3567 This watch amongst other capability can have alarms set to a future date and time. I feel this greatly compliment the LX because I am not always within an earshot distant from the LX and may miss the LX alarm. An IR sync watch alarm is perfect because I always have my watch. Regards, Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Lombaard To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Sunday, January 14, 2001 4:50 AM Subject: Re: Group Project >Where did you find the info regarding IR remote control on the palmtop? > >I have always thought that it would be great to have a C application library >to enable anyone even with limited experience in IR signal standards or >serial communication programming to write programs using the IR port. I even >bought the HP technical manual in the hope that it would help but the info >was not quite sufficient. > >There are at least 2 very good programs available for TV remote control. I >have contacted the authors of both requesting info on how to receive & >transmit TV remote type signals on the HP LX. Neither of them responded to >my email. I program as a hobby and it seemed like a nice project with the >idea that one might be able to expand that into a device controlling say a >Lego Mindstorm robot or a X10 home automation/security system. > >Regards, >Stefan Lombaard > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:12:11 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" Subject: FLUFF: Why this list is as great as America Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >That's odd; according to www.census.gov, as of 01 nov 2000, there are >~276,059,000 people in the United States, of which ~226,861,000, or = 82.2%, >are white. Does that include Hispanics? Most classifications lump Hispanics in with whites unless they are focusing on minorities. Then they seperate out a "white, non-hispanic" category to peg as the "majority" I don't know what you understand by Hispanic, but as far as I know people in Spain( Previously Hispania-> Hispanics-> people from Hispania)are white like everybody else in Europe. Cheers, Inigo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 00:19:13 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: S35i or 6210 ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Remember the discussion about receiving Goin'Postal messages via a S35i GSM phone ? Well.. A little problem forbid me to make some other tests : The phone has been stolen a few weeks later :-(. Now, I will be able to get a new phone, but I don't know which one : S35 or Nokia 6210 ? If I am an Nokia addict, the S35 has some features the 6210 is missing (vocal recording or automatic shuttoff at a fixed hour). But the S35 has a big problem, it is the fact that its modem is hardwired to 19200 bauds. This seems to forbid some DOS softwares to access to the phone, because they set the COM port at another speed (9600 probably) without any possibility to change this setting. For example, I found on Simtel a very good little fax manager : ECOFAX ( http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/commprog/ecofx210.zip ) (multi-recipients, phone books, Inclusion of graphics in the sent page...), which works very well on the palmtop using a line modem, but don't seems to find the S35... Then, can S35i and 6210 user can tell me what communication software they tried succesfully, or not, between their phone and their palmtop ? Jacques. -- The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:20:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: FLUFF: Why this list is as great as America Comments: To: "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Inigo M.de Azagra y de Miota" To: Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 6:12 PM Subject: FLUFF: Why this list is as great as America > Does that include Hispanics? Most classifications lump Hispanics in with > whites unless they are focusing on minorities. Then they seperate out a > "white, non-hispanic" category to peg as the "majority" > > I don't know what you understand by Hispanic, but as far as I know people in > Spain( Previously Hispania-> Hispanics-> people from Hispania)are white like > everybody else in Europe. "Hispanic" usually refers to Spanish speaking persons not from Spain, as opposed to "Spaniard". "Spanish" used to mean "Spaniard", but it became confused with Hispanic, so for those obsessed with the difference the term "Spaniard" is used. The reason for the confusion in USA census is because Spanish people are generally not so obsessed with racial issues are Anglo-Saxons are. To Spanish people race means what you look like. To Americans it means who you are (if you know what I mean). Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 05:42:31 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Nifty tool for knives, LX's and Omnibooks.... Comments: To: omnibook@elektro.cmhnet.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT What's the common link? The T6 Torx screw that's the agony of many a hardware store search. Most of us know by now that the T6 Torx screws which are used on the underside of both the LX and the Omnibook cases are smaller than the drivers carried at most stores (for those of us that feel compelled to open things), with the exception of Sears. Well it also turns out that many folding knives (particularly Spyderco and Benchmade) use the same T6 screw in their construction, and while browsing a knife shop today, I found a compact little pocket tool kit sold by Benchmade that sells for $15 http://store.knifecenter.com/pgi-ProductSpec?BM9810 The kit includes T6,7,8,10,15 bits and a phillips head driver, plus a bit holder, all in a blue case that's also used as the driver handle, and not much larger than a cigarette lighter. A nice package to toss in the tool box, tho you do have to remember that the driver bit holder is magnetic (shouldn't be a problem for the LX and OB tho). Great for those emergency harddrive replacements or memory upgrades in the field. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 01:54:01 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: HP200LX versus the Palmpilot MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit For those on the list who have experience using various incarnations of the Palm, how does it compare as precisely as possible to the 200LX? Is there software readily available to allow one to do on the Palm what we can already do on the 200LX? Is the experience (shifting to the Palm unit) even worth it? Thanks... -- David Ball ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:54:25 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Connecting to the Internet in mid ocean MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Owen, On 14 Jan 2001, at 17:42, Owen H. Morgan wrote: > I was aware that you can do e-mail by HF-radio, both from Marine > HF-radio and amateur radio, but was not aware that it is possible to > look at web sites. Still, I don't think it would be a practical solution > for receiving isobar weather charts. At least not more practical than > weatherfax. If you have the hardware to get on the net via HF-radio, you > also have the hardware for weatherfaxes. I am not sure if it is possible to connect to Kielradio with a Palmtop, at least I never tried it. If it is possible, you would have to use an Internet browser like HV on your palmtop to do it and download the weatherfax from a site. (you gave me the adddress once) The Hardware and Software necessary for this would be a Ptc-2 controller, a HF radio, the Palmtop + www-suite, a license for the Marine firmware of the Ptc-2, and a Login for Kielradio. This will cost quite a bit of money. The advantage is that you need not wait for a transmission of the weatherfaxes but you can download them when you want (and run your motor for this short period of time). And you need no ham radio license for this. If you have a ham radio license, you could use the winlink2000 boxes, but I do not know for my own if they provide recent weather faxes. The software for these is windows 32 bit, so nothing for the palmtop afaik. Do you use a solar charger on your boat to load batteries? just curious. Werner Thougth for the day: He who laughs last thinks slowest. --Nathalie B. -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:30:25 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Ýfluff¨ HF packet in the ocean MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Bryan, for this purpose the HF protokoll is _not_ HF Packet, but Pactor level 2. The throughput is much better than in HF Packet 300 Baud. I agree with you that HF Packet is no good... For details look at: www.scs-ptc.com 73! Werner OE9FWV On 14 Jan 2001, at 11:07, Bryan Biggers wrote: > Oops, I forgot to include any actual text! Probably more > interesting that way, I know... > > What I wanted to say was that HF packet does not work well enough > to run TCPIP with any real throughput. I've tried it for a month. > At 300 baud, with all the interference and millions of > retransmissions and timeouts, and people who think that the > frequencies are "theirs" and have set aggressive timeouts, you > will be lucky to get a few pages of text through per day, > especially with the low powered equipment and marginal antenna > that you would have on a boat. I seriously doubt that you would > ever be able to get a 250K weather chart though. I'd look for > another solution than HF packet. > > Bryan N9GBJ > Thought for the day: Dictatorship (n): a form of government under which everything which is not prohibited is compulsory. -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:13:19 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palmpilot Comments: To: David Ball Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Monday, 15.01.2001 at 09:54 GMT, David Ball wrote: > For those on the list who have experience using various incarnations of > the Palm, how does it compare as precisely as possible to the 200LX? > > Is there software readily available to allow one to do on the Palm what > we can already do on the 200LX? > > Is the experience (shifting to the Palm unit) even worth it? > I'm using an IBM WorkPad c3 Mod. 8602 (aka. Palm Pilot Vx) with 8 MB. I would consider the Palm Pilot Vx or the IIIc (the color model) the only worthwhile models (because of the 8 MB RAM) for anyone with an HP 200 LX with memory expansion or flash card. People who mainly use the HP 200 LX for data input or as a stand-alone computer shouldn't look at the Palm. However, if your main use is to retrieve information from the phone book, data bases, dictionaries etc. and if you want to synchronize data on your handheld with your PC, then the Palm Pilot might be the right device for you. Although you can buy a foldable keyboard for the Palm (nice form factor: roughly same size as Palm V but twice as thick) at a hefty price (around USD 100), keying in data is still not as easy and convenient as on the HP 200 LX. The Palm Pilot itself is much smaller and lighter than an HP 200 LX, you can really take it almost everywhere. I'll include the software list I posted about a week ago here; sorry for wasting the bandwidth (although this shouldn't be a problem with all the fluff in this list lately) but it saves you the work of retrieving my old post from the archives: I'm using the following Palm Pilot Software: PalmSafe (USD 11.95): Allows to enter IDs and corresponding Passwords or PIN numbers, displays the info in a very readable format and stores the data encrypted with Blowfish. BackupBuddy (USD 29.95): Backs up all Palm Pilot files, allows selective restore and also supports time synchronization with the PC. QuickSheet (USD 24.95): Excel-compatible spreadsheet program. Has a PC component that plugs into MS Excel. I find the recalc speed very slow but the spreadsheet I'm using has a lot of @IF functions. I've seen another spreadsheet on a friend's TRGPro run very fast with QuickSheet. BTW. I was unable to find a spreadsheet program for the Palm that would support Lotus 1-2-3 on www.palmgear.com. TextPlus (USD 19.95): A tool that suggests words and phrases when typing. This one can speed up text entry quite considerably. I'm using the German and US English vocabularies (you can add your own words and phrases, too). DateBook (USD 24.95) 4: This tool greatly improves the built-in calendar, phone book and to-do list applications. However, I had to read the 100+ page User's Guide back-to-back to really understand how to make best use of the tool. HandBase (USD 24.99): A powerful database tool which comes with a PC component. There are a number of other DB tools for the Palm. I chose HandBase because the demo version came with the PC component so I could test the conversion of my HP 200 LX databases. Other tools only provided the PC component upon registration (with payment) and I hate to buy a pig in a poke. PowerRoute (DEM 79,90): A route planner with maps for Germany, Switzerland, Austria. Additionally, I'm using a number of freeware tools: EasySync: Synchronizes Palm Pilot applications with Lotus Notes or Organizer. I'm only synchronizing the calendar with the Lotus Notes calendar and the mail application with Lotus Notes mail. I'm not sure whether EasySynch is freeware, for me it is. CryptoPad: Allows to store notebook entries encrypted with Blowfish. BigClock: Very nice "full screen" clock display with alarms, stopwatch, world time. HandyShopper V.2: Shopping lists. MobiPocket: A document reader. WorldClock: Displays different time zones with DST etc. Convert: A conversion tool with a huge list of physical and technical units. Currency (Currex): A currency converter. You can download conversion rates for 100+ currencies from the web (updated daily). MoonPhase: A little program that calculates moon phases. Z'Catalog: A "system utility" that allows to delete files, applications etc. selectively. Not for the faint of heart. I downloaded all the software from www.palmgear.com which is a great repository for Palm Pilot software with thousands of freeware, shareware and commercial products. Another nice piece of software is Afterburner, a system extension ("hack") that allows to run the Palm Pilot at higher CPU speeds. There is a Benchmark tool which uses the Palm V/IIIx as reference (100%). The Vx clocks in at 122%. With Afterburner at the recommended settings, it goes up to 276%. It can be used as freeware or shareware (USD 8.00). Ulrich Boche IT Security Technical Consultant IBM eServer Sales Technical Support (OS/390 + e-Business Security) Am Keltenwald 1, 71139 Ehningen, Germany Phone: +49-7034/15-2716, Mobile-GSM: +49-171/5533450 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:02:14 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Brown, William" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William" Subject: Re: SRAM cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Assuming Win 98 is the same as Win95, to use a SRAM you need this in CONFIG.SYS: device=c:\windows\system\csmapper.sys device=c:\windows\system\carddrv.exe /slot=1 I found this in the Windows Help. The slot= is the *number* of slots to use, not which one. It creates removeable devices in the same number, starting from slot 0. So I always use slot 0 to keep down the number of drive letters reserved. Veyr handy for keeping your PGP private keyring and moving it between the LX or the laptop. You will start to get told about 'some drives are using MS-DOS compatibility mode' in the Control Panel. William D.Ll.Brown ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:20:07 +0000 Reply-To: srtgray@clara.co.uk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stuart Gray Subject: Re: SRAM cards Avi, You need to add two lines to your config.sys: device=c:\windows\system\csmapper.sys device=c:\windows\system\carddrv.sys /slot=n where n is the number of slots you have in your system. This will permanently assign n drive letters to the system, so you can read the SRAM. The drivers can be loaded high if required, and obviously change the directory if c:\windows\ is not appropriate! HTH Stuart > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 03:50:34 -0500 > From: A Meshar > Subject: Re: SRAM cards > > Steve, > > > The SRAM cards from Thaddues show up as a 1.5 Meg A: drive in Filer. You can > > boot from them if you put a config.sys file on them. > > I have some of these too, and they are really fince cards on > the Palmtop. I tried them in Win98 and Win98 recognizes them > as SRAM cards, but I am not sure what now... They do not show > up as a drive or anything... Any ideas on how see them in > Windows? TIA > > Avi > > ------------------------------ -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:42:58 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palmpilot Comments: To: David Ball In-Reply-To: <20010115015139.C6B3.DMB10@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, David Ball wrote: > For those on the list who have experience using various incarnations > of the Palm, Well, I own one (Palm IIIx + 8MB expansion board), but I've played around with many of the other variants. > how does it compare as precisely as possible to the 200LX? Pros: * Smaller & lighter (fits better on my belt than the LX, and easier to hold while reading on public transport) * Lots of active development (h/w + s/w) * Wireless support (built-in on Palm VII/VIIx, add-ons for various others) * Backlight (unneeded in the day, decent in the dark, unreadable at twilight) Cons: * Less durable (nothing I've seen on the market beats the LX for sheer toughness) * No built-in keyboard (but Graffiti fills the gap somewhat) > Is there software readily available to allow one to do on the Palm what > we can already do on the 200LX? Yes, if you're talking about the LX built-ins. Most of the equivalents aren't free, although you should be able to get a brand-new Palm IIIxe + the equivalent apps for less than a refurbished 8MB DS LX. As for your other needs, check out Palm Gear HQ (http://www.palmgear.com) to see if they've got what you need. > Is the experience (shifting to the Palm unit) even worth it? Only you can answer that question; you'll just have to "suck it and see". IMO, both platforms beat the pants off the competition, but for different reasons and for different folks. Just a personal note to round things off: I bought my LX first, then my Palm -- and I nearly didn't go back again. The only reason I did was because half the buttons on my Palm (including the power button) developed contact problems after the warranty expired. It's still usable, but kinda annoying sometimes (esp. when it gets stuck in the ON mode). Seems to be a case of "just my luck" rather than a pervasive manufacturing defect, though. Both get exercised daily now. I use the Palm when physically on the move or in the dark (offline newsreading on the bus or in bed, solitaire, handy night-light 8-), and the LX when I'm standing still or sitting down (PIM, DB, spreadsheets, etc.). They're both really good at what they do. -- - Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:47:16 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Owen H. Morgan wrote: > If I try to set the weatherfax software to high resolution > mode I get the error message: "Super VGA and 1 Megabyte of > EMS memory required." Possibly you could solve the 256KB limit by using EMS on a memory upgraded 200LX. It looks like the 256KB limit is related to the main memory and not the display memory and if the software detects EMS installed, it probably uses it. Just a guess. This indeed doesn't solve the SVGA problem. But I'm almost sure, the weatherfax software receives the data in a way appropriate for all displays and later on cuts off information because of a detected low resolution CGA monitor. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:37:05 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palmpilot Comments: To: David Ball In-Reply-To: <20010115015139.C6B3.DMB10@swbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, David Ball wrote: > For those on the list who have experience using various incarnations of > the Palm, how does it compare as precisely as possible to the 200LX? > > Is there software readily available to allow one to do on the Palm what > we can already do on the 200LX? > > Is the experience (shifting to the Palm unit) even worth it? The Palm would be an ideal replacement if it had a keyboard. I am currently using a borrowed Palm along with my LX and it's pretty nifty. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:56:30 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: FS: JetEye Infrared printer port MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Before I try to auction it off: I have for sale a JetEye infrared printer port, ESI -9500A. Fits between PC printer connector and parallell printer. Asking Euro 50 plus shipping from Netherlands, will consider other bids. ( Am setting up Paypal, not yet registered) Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:38:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palmpilot Comments: To: David Ball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Ball wrote: > For those on the list who have experience using various incarnations of > the Palm, how does it compare as precisely as possible to the 200LX? No matter how you slice it or dice it....everything sucks compared to the perfection of the 200lx. I've tried everything and nothing comes within a million miles of touching the 200lx. If you are looking for something to replace the 200llx...don't bother...you will hate everything out there. My advice....stay with the 200lx even if it means repairing it or upgrading with DS or more memory (64 meg or 96 meg). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:15:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: LED light auction on EBay! Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >From: Daniel Hertrich Ýmailto:d.hertrich@GMX.DE¨ >Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 1:40 PM >you can now bid on a LED light (see >http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight for more information) on ebay. >item number is 1207667018 >Additional information about international payment: >I'll accept cheques up to a value of 99 DM. If the price goes up to >more than 100 DM, we have to split it up into 2 cheques. I'd suggest taking advantage of the volume market. A company named nYko sells an LED light for the Nintendo GameBoy for less than US$10.00 (nYko has sold over 2 million of these, called the Worm Light). Put the right connector on the end and it could serve well for the HPLXes. We saw about a dozen of these Worm Lights, in different colors, at Wal-Mart over the weekend for $7.88 apiece. See a review of this product at http://pocket.ign.com/hardware/103.html. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:13:10 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , revwkschultz@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: William Schultz Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palm iiic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had been looking to replace my LX ever since I could no longer make the connectivity pack work. (I can't make it come up in Windows 98 and I have never figured out how to make it work in DOS.) The Palm iiic captured my attention for three reasons. 1. I can drop it in the cradle push a button and it syncs up with my lap top. 2. Even though I don't own MS OUTLOOK, I took my entire data base of 200 names and addresses, turned them into comma format, dropped them into the software in my PC, and at the next sync operation, they were all on my Palm. 3. It fits quite nicely in my shirt pocket. So far, except for BIG CLOCK (cf. letter from Ulrich Boche) I have only had time to play with the built in software. Adrian Ho said it is "unreadable at twilight". Well, the truth is that it is unreadable outside during the day. This is the one really big surprise. I can't imagine what it is about the sun that washes out the screen. Even on a cloudy bright day, it is nearly impossible to read the screen. It is too bad the LX couldn't have been made to run Windows 3.1. Then I could throw away my lap top and return to my first love. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:47:57 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement, I'd like 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" <> Yes, this is why originally I did not want to offer individual parts for sale. However, a number of people here asked. Even if we supplied instructions, we'd end up spending a lot of time on support calls and cleaning up afterwards when things didn't go well. Normally, we charge $125 for all repairs. When we do get the cases in, we'll see. Maybe I'll offer a $65 special just to repair the case. Hal ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:49:36 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>> I'd use the LX file formats as the base, and convert to everything else in the world from it. That way, you could have every byte of info in your LX, and sync over whatever subsets your other devices/PIMs can handle. <<<<<<< If the LX formats are modifiable then how can they be used as a base? What if the user has added extra fields? I think it would have to be configurable at that end too. Is there something like a dictionary in the LX files? That might make it easier to deal with. >>>>>>> While we're on the subject: Has anyone come up with a good solid open-source IRDA API for the LX? With all due respect to D&A, using their IR program to do the transfer would be clumsy at best. <<<<<<<< That's a great idea. Not necessarily for a group project. But a lot of people have wanted to use the IR for a lot of reasons I'm sure it's not trivial to learn. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:53:58 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement, I'd like 2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << Normally, we charge $125 for all repairs. When we do get the cases in, we'll see. Maybe I'll offer a $65 special just to repair the case. >> Now that's a deal I could go for. Sorta like spending some money to re-chrome the bumpers. I might have missed something from the earlier parts of this thread, but does a new case also imply a new latch? The deal's even better if we end up taking care of two problems at the same time (unless Thaddeus just pops in a rubber band too ). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:07:50 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I tried to run WeFax from within Norton Commander, > and also loaded some TSR's to eat up some memory, > but the limit remains the same, exactly 256186 bytes, > so it's not an available DOS memory issue. What about an available disk space issue? If it's saving to c: and you have 256k left on C: then that could be the problem. Also I'm not sure your test is enough to be sure it's not memory. If they program allocates a 256k buffer in ram and you put in 100k of tsrs but it still has enough ram left for it's buffer, it would give the same results. I'd try using a program like eatmem that will cut the memory available pretty drastically. Or, easier, do it in a dos shell where you can control the available memory with the system manager. Keep trying with different amounts of memory. When it can't allocate a 256k buffer it might just say "Not enough memory" and the amount of memory available will be a clue. For example, if the exe file is 30k and it fails at around 300k (enough for the buffer, exe and a few other things it might need) then it's likely to be a buffer problem. If it fails at 50k then it probably isn't. You might even get lucky and get a message like "Unable to allocate buffer" although I wouldn't hold your breath. You also could get unlucky and just get a crash. That tells you less but it still makes the above somewhat realistic. Eatmem is available at all the usual download sites. Simtelnet, jumbo, etc. Maybe even at the super site. If you can't find it send me a private email at barryATfbtcDOTnet (change spam stuff) and I'll send it in a reply. It's pretty small. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:19:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palm iiic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Schultz" To: Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palm iiic > had time to play with the built in software. Adrian Ho said it is > "unreadable at twilight". Well, the truth is that it is unreadable > outside during the day. This is the one really big surprise. I can't > imagine what it is about the sun that washes out the screen. Even on a > cloudy bright day, it is nearly impossible to read the screen. Adrian Ho said he had a Palm IIIx. What he said applies to all monochrome Palms. What you said applies to many/most color devices, including laptop computers and such. I would add that what makes the Palm great is all the great support, not the machine itself. If the hplx had the same support, it could do wonders. If you like the hplx because of DOS support, you will be disappointed in a Palm. If you like the built-in and exm programs, Palm is in many respects better. But it is all very personal in a way. For me, if it had not been for the backlight, I would not have taken the plunge. The two biggest disadvantages I see in a Palm: I miss the full view of the hplx in DOS mode, and there is no decent music program for the Palm. HTH Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:19:59 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: FLUFF: Why this list is as great as America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I don't know what you understand by Hispanic, > but as far as I know people in Spain( Previously > Hispania-> Hispanics-> people from Hispania)are > white like everybody else in Europe. In Texas, Hispanics are people who speak Spanish and/or have Spanish surnames. That includes people from both central and south america and people from the USA. I'm not sure it actually includes people from Spain. Isn't that kind of like people from England claiming that they speak English? :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:49:57 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: S35i or 6210 ? Comments: To: Jacques Belin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jacques, On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 00:19:13 +0100, Jacques Belin wrote: > Then, can S35i and 6210 user can tell me what communication software > they tried succesfully, or not, between their phone and their palmtop ? First: have you looked at www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx/ ? Maybe this already answers a few of your questions. Regarding Fax: I use bgfax with 2bgfax (you can find it on SUPER) in combination with qfax. I first create the fax using 2bgfax, use the viewer of bgfax to review the fax, and qfax finally sends it. This all works with my S35 perfectly. 2bgfax can also process PCX graphics (I use it for edding a signature to every fax). If you are interested, I can send you my fax batch file (LXFAX.BAT), which controls this combination of software. There is no fax software which speaks IrDA, AFAIK, so if you want to send faxes with your mobile phone, you have to use a data cable! Does the 6210 support the usage of a data cable? Besides this fax suite, I only use WWW/LX with my S35. This supports everything I need besides fax. Even Telnet sessions, ftp etc is possible over IrDA. And of course SMS. But be aware that IrDA with the S35 is quite unreliable, because of the EMI disturbances, which you can nearly entirely eliminate when you use a Nokia phone. So if you want to use the S35, I strongly recommend that you at least HAVE a cable, so that you can use it if you get tired by the attempts of getting an IrDA connection. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:50:00 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Unresponsive keys Comments: To: Kheehua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Kheehua, On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 12:44:24 +0800, Kheehua wrote: > Hi, my 200LX seems to have some unresponsive keys like "Q", "left arrow", > "full stop" and a few others. I need to press them harder Wonder if I can > spray WD40 or some such thing on the keys to improve contact? Since the contacts are between two plastic foils, blowing with compressed air wouldn't work. And WD40 (which is, AFAIK, a spray that losves corrosions etc. ("contact spray")) would flow over the top foil and have no effect besides flooding your keyboard! I see two possibilities: 1. Maybe your problem is simply a loose press contact between the keyboard cable and the motherboard. Try yo press the LX's case together in the area under the menu key to the dot key. There is this press contact. If you problem disappears when doing this, please report. I can then guide you through the next steps, if you want. 2. If really the key contacts are bad, you had to take apart the keyboard which is not trivial for someone who hasn't opened the palmtop before. Did you already open it? If not, I'D rather suggest that you send it to Thaddeus or to another person who have the skills to clean the keyboard. By such a person it can easily be done in an hour or so. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:50:18 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: SC on the Omnibook Comments: To: omnibook@elektro.cmhnet.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, this messsage goes to the HPLX and to the Omnibook list. I finally got my Omnibook 430 today and I tried to tun the palmtop Software Carousel on it. Unfortunately it doesn't work. Is says "Software Carousel only runs on an HP palmtop." and quits. So I'll have to use the Windows 3.1 task switching ability. Or does someone know a work-around? GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:52:17 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think we're on to something. There's been some discussion of a group project for a few days and the fluff level has been reduced by about 80%. Even I only posted one fluff today. A record, I'm sure. So, I think we should keep up the discussion and come up with something. Even though I'm kind of pushing this idea, I don't want to lead such a project. We have good people here that are better able to do that. I've always pretty much worked alone. The two serious group projects I've led worked because the other people on the group were friends and they were determined to make it work in spite of me. There have been a few ideas but none that made everybody jump in and say "Great idea!!!! But let's change this .....". Then we'll know we're on the right track. Somebody suggested a WAP interpreter and I didn't know about WAP, being retired and years out of date, so I did a little reading about it on the web. It probably would be an interesting project but I'm not sure it's one that a lot of people in this group could work on together. But, I'm not that sure I understand it so I could be wrong. It would be a good thing to have for the LX. An IRDA API is a great idea but I think that's too specialized to get everyone involved in. A general purpose synching program would also be useful to those who need such a thing. And it might be able to involve more of us. But how many would really use it? Maybe we should have a count of hands on that? Somebody also mentioned a text edit box. Another good idea. But again, most people wouldn't be able to do much on it. One possibility might be to have a few small projects. Maybe coordinated to let them share code. Although maybe Pal already takes care of that. I haven't actually used Pal. Maybe we could do "all of the above". Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:58:19 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: SC on the Omnibook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel, > So I'll have to use the Windows 3.1 task switching ability. > Or does someone know a work-around? You need to buy SC for PC. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:59:50 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What about a custom HP-LX programming language? Something like OPL on the Psion. Something that's as easy to use as basic, even for non-programmers. And maybe even is basic, or similar to it, but that fits the LX. It could have built-in commands to control or respond to the special features of the LX. It's functions could be sensitive to screen size changes, for example. And it could have functions to change the screen size. It might understand all the LX file formats. It could have conversion functions from one record layout to another, where that might be useful. It could be extensible so that any c programmer could add to it's functionality. Maybe parts of Pal could be used, even. Another idea might be a code generator that outputs Pal code. LXMFC. Or maybe Visual Pal. :) Any compiler writers here? Just an idea. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:07:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: FLUFF: Why this list is as great as America Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > > I don't know what you understand by Hispanic, > > but as far as I know people in Spain( Previously > > Hispania-> Hispanics-> people from Hispania)are > > white like everybody else in Europe. > > In Texas, Hispanics are people who speak Spanish and/or have Spanish > surnames. That includes people from both central and south america > and people from the USA. > > I'm not sure it actually includes people from Spain. Isn't that > kind of like people from England claiming that they speak English? > :) > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml My understanding is that hispanics (for the purpose of the U.S. government) are those that have a spanish surname regardless of whether they speak spanish or english or any other language. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:10:36 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: OT: Win98 install problems Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe that Compaq will replace the system restore disk for free if you contact them. Bob Bruce Martin wrote: > > CD-ROM with the ROM BIOS flashed to Compaq's latest version. It came with > Win95 loaded, but no system CD-ROM, so I picked up a copy of Win98 to -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:20:36 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Unresponsive keys In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 12:44:24 +0800, Kheehua wrote: > > > Hi, my 200LX seems to have some unresponsive keys like "Q", "left arrow", > > "full stop" and a few others. I need to press them harder Wonder if I can > > spray WD40 or some such thing on the keys to improve contact? > > Since the contacts are between two plastic foils, blowing with > compressed air wouldn't work. If the problem is between the contacts, that is true. I've had situations in which the problem is a grain of corn meal (or some other substance) lying between the plastic key and the underlying surface. The particle prevents full depression of the key (and thus the closing of the contact). Blowing out the particle does indeed help in this situation. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:21:38 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paul Ainsworth Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Ainsworth Subject: Re: FLUFF: Why this list is as great as America Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A634A6D.9FE60175@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > My understanding is that hispanics (for the purpose of the U.S. > government) are those that have a spanish surname regardless of whether > they speak spanish or english or any other language. If I recall, there was an option on the census to specify your race. Perhaps they just extrapolate from the information they get about that. Paul ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:32:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: DECIMATE utility for archiving backups MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >From: Curtis Cameron Ýmailto:curtc@AIRMAIL.NET¨ >Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:38 AM > >Some of us keep multiple versions of backups on our flash cards, like >ten of them, with a batch file that discards the oldest when creating >a new one. > >I've just done a little utility which will delete one of them in such >a way that your more recent backups will still be closely spaced, but >the oldest ones can be very old. It does this by deleting one of the >ten in a random way, so that the age spacing of the backups will get >progressively farther apart. Hey, this is a great idea! Too bad it doesn't work with directory trees. Lately I've taken to storing only one or two backups of my C: drive on my palmtop's flash card (A:) and I keep multiple generations of backups of A: on my notebook computer. But I store them uncompressed in subdirectories named AIMAGE0, AIMAGE1, etc. I have top keep on top of which is the most recent and I've been trimming off the oldest. This approach looks even better. Thanks Curtis! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:40:47 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Adding SRAM card drive letters to Win9X Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT 0100,0100,0100Hello Avi, In fact a method is described in Win9X online help to add the drive letter for SRAM cards, add these two lines to config.sys: device=c:\windows\system\csmapper.sys device=c:\windows\system\carddrv.exe /slot=2 However this legacy DOS-based 16-bit approach is not recommended if you have Win98 or Win98SE. There is a newer native method: insert the Win 98 install CD and right click on <, then INSTALL. Sincerely: Tamas Feher >I have some of these too, and they are really fince cards on >the Palmtop. I tried them in Win98 and Win98 recognizes them >as SRAM cards, but I am not sure what now... They do not show >up as a drive or anything... Any ideas on how see them in >Windows? TIA Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:40:48 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Token-ring cards unhappy w/o MAU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, I have a problem. When token-ring cards are installed in a PC and they are not connected to a MAU for some reason, they feel bad and signal error code to Win9X, where the nice yellow triangle error sign appears under devices view. The real problem is, booting process seems to be hung for up to 4 minutes, before Win9x con- tinues beyond networking section. Very much unpleasant. Anyone heard of a method to stop token-ring cards worry about their MAU-less state? I am not keen on removing them. BTW, MAU is like the HUB, but for token-ring networks. Thanks in advance, Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:49:53 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Fluff: Quoting and replying above/below Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been getting a lot of HTML attachments the last few months. Never used to get them. They sure are a nuisance especially when Netscape Navigator does not word wrap long lines. It is a multistep process for me to create them. I am in the dark. How are these HTML attachments created apparantly so simply? > > Certainly, I agree that quotes should be as short as necessary and I hate > > finding HTML and attachments in mail I receive. > Bob -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:47:14 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Token-ring cards unhappy w/o MAU In-Reply-To: <3A636050.23367.32B5E7@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Feher Tamas wrote: Ýsnip¨ Whoops! looks like you sent the mail to the wrong list. This is the hplx-l mailing-list, not the token-ring list! Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:52:39 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Group Project In-Reply-To: <001501c07f25$56b9ab60$5dfc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Barry wrote: > What about a custom HP-LX programming language? Something like OPL > on the Psion. Something that's as easy to use as basic, even for > non-programmers. And maybe even is basic, or similar to it, but that > fits the LX. It could have built-in commands to control or respond > to the special features of the LX. It's functions could be > sensitive to screen size changes, for example. And it could have > functions to change the screen size. Perl and C already work on the LX, so I see no need for a new language ;-) What about a language that works under (or created specifically for) the SysMgr and would allow you to create interpreted (or compiled) System Manager programs? would be more interesting than a DOS based generic language for the LX, IMO. Back in the 95LX days there was a BASIC for the System Manager, IIRC. Swift Basic or some such. > Any compiler writers here? Just a mandatory course in compiler designand implementaiton, which I didn't particularly enjoy... Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 14:19:36 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tim Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Schneider Subject: fs: 14.4 pcmcia modem for 200lx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed have the following for sale (cleaning out the office and came across this) A Smart Modular Tech. 14.4 pcmcia card modem (with dongle) This one is compat. with the 100 and 200lx and is one of the lower power eaters 120mA online, 83mA standby and 3mA sleep http://comet.shiva.com/prod/ccl/smart.html http://www.cewindows.net/pccrdpwr.htm I know that it worked in the 200lx that I used to own (have slipped over to the PalmOS darkside) Below is a digicam shot of all included.. looking for $10 and will ship for free via DHL anywhere in the US http://www.users.qwest.net/~karentim/smart.htm wanted to offer to the list first. before heading over to ebay cheers, -tim reply to either tims@synopsys.com or karentim@qwest.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:11:22 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palmpilot Comments: To: Jeff In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > The Palm would be an ideal replacement if it had a keyboard. I am > currently using a borrowed Palm along with my LX and it's pretty nifty. Yes, this would be my feeling as well. However, the fold-up keyboard the Palm is quite nice when keyboard input is a must. I do wish there was a Palm unit with a keyboard similar to the 200LX's. That would be just about perfect. -- David Ball ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:06:52 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palm iiic Comments: To: revwkschultz@JUNO.COM In-Reply-To: <20010115.091322.-363893.0.revwkschultz@juno.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > I had been looking to replace my LX ever since I could no longer make the > connectivity pack work. (I can't make it come up in Windows 98 and I > have never figured out how to make it work in DOS.) The Palm iiic > captured my attention for three reasons. 1. I can drop it in the cradle > push a button and it syncs up with my lap top. 2. Even though I don't > own MS OUTLOOK, I took my entire data base of 200 names and addresses, > turned them into comma format, dropped them into the software in my PC, > and at the next sync operation, they were all on my Palm. 3. It fits > quite nicely in my shirt pocket. These are some of the reasons I'm looking at a Palm IIIxe now. It's just become increasingly apparent that I need to synchronize at work with Outlook for my messages and tasks. Cutting and pasting messages and copying them to the 200LX is far too time consuming. This fact, plus the sad realization that the 200LX has been orphaned, are prompting me to make the move. When I add in the fact that I can purchase a Palm unit for $200 (plus the fold-up keyboard) versus the price for an upgraded 200LX, the decision becomes even more logical. Thanks for the input. Regards, -- David Ball ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:15:29 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palmpilot Comments: To: Adrian Ho In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > Both get exercised daily now. I use the Palm when physically on the move > or in the dark (offline newsreading on the bus or in bed, solitaire, handy > night-light 8-), and the LX when I'm standing still or sitting down (PIM, > DB, spreadsheets, etc.). They're both really good at what they do. This will more than likely be what I end up doing. Keeping the 200LX for those times when I want to use Lotus 123 or do text entry with PE as my editor...the Palm for interfacing to work, scheduling, emails, downloading Web pages for the networking data...stuff like that. Thanks for the input. -- David Ball ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:09:40 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palmpilot Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A630B56.8027F572@beld.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > No matter how you slice it or dice it....everything sucks compared to the > perfection of the 200lx. I've tried everything and nothing comes within a > million miles of touching the 200lx. If you are looking for something to > replace the 200llx...don't bother...you will hate everything out there. > My advice....stay with the 200lx even if it means repairing it or upgrading > with DS or more memory (64 meg or 96 meg) Sadly, I'm afraid this may be true. However, because of pressing needs to synchronize with the Outlook software at work, and because of my concerns over the increasingly orphaned state of the 200LX, I will more than likely move in this direction anyhow. Thanks for your response. This list has increased the value of my 200LX fourfold, at least -- David Ball ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:03:33 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palm iiic Comments: To: revwkschultz@JUNO.COM In-Reply-To: <20010115.091322.-363893.0.revwkschultz@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using Windows 98 and the connectivity pack almost "worked right out of the box". The connectivity pack didn't work (for me) in Win 3.1. In Win98 I had to ensure that the application wasn't aware of Windows in order to make it function properly. There is a check box in the advanced properties of the shortcut you create that requires to be checked. I also checked the "suggest MS-DOS mode as necessary" box as well. Let me know if you don't know how to do this. Hopefully it will save you the extra expense of a Palm. Cheers Tony. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of William Schultz Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2001 06:13 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palm iiic I had been looking to replace my LX ever since I could no longer make the connectivity pack work. (I can't make it come up in Windows 98 and I have never figured out how to make it work in DOS.) The Palm iiic captured my attention for three reasons. 1. I can drop it in the cradle push a button and it syncs up with my lap top. 2. Even though I don't own MS OUTLOOK, I took my entire data base of 200 names and addresses, turned them into comma format, dropped them into the software in my PC, and at the next sync operation, they were all on my Palm. 3. It fits quite nicely in my shirt pocket. So far, except for BIG CLOCK (cf. letter from Ulrich Boche) I have only had time to play with the built in software. Adrian Ho said it is "unreadable at twilight". Well, the truth is that it is unreadable outside during the day. This is the one really big surprise. I can't imagine what it is about the sun that washes out the screen. Even on a cloudy bright day, it is nearly impossible to read the screen. It is too bad the LX couldn't have been made to run Windows 3.1. Then I could throw away my lap top and return to my first love. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:15:02 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement, I'd like 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" <> Longden, I doubt if you missed anything. By the way I always enjoy your excellent posts. No, all we are getting in are case tops. We won't get them in for about 14 weeks. I'll see what our inventory of other parts are and what kind of offer we want to make when they come in. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:19:33 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick west Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick west Subject: Actisys Wireless IR Printer Adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, Has anyone ever heard of this? I looked at their website but couldn't find any info on this item. Anyone heard of "Sharp's ASK protocol"? > Actisys Wireless IR Printer Adapter > Lose the cables!!! ActiSys, a Silicon Valley-based > developer of infrared accessories, has released a slick > little device which can intelligently switch between > sending data to your printer or to your computer. The > ACT-IR3S+ - Infrared Wireless Interface device utilizes > Sharp's ASK protocol, it handles speeds of 9600 > and 19.2k bps for a distance of up to 100 cm. Patrick _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:40:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Ackerman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Ackerman Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palmpilot I use both. It's a bit awkward in the summer, but other seasons, I have enough pockets that it doesn't matter. The Palm is great for calendaring. The sync'ing feature means I don't have to worry about getting 3 different versions of my calendar going, and I don't have to self-repair my sync software. I also use it for a phone list (mostly because it syncs) and an occasional email. The downside is that it's got very limited memory (which is important for database stuff) and graffiti is really painful. If you're thinking of writing much, most people pop up the little software keyboard after a while and go to it. If you buy a real keyboard and carry it around, then why not just carry the hp? I've continued to use the hp for years. It runs Agenda, which runs my to-do list (and therefore my life). I can take notes, write custom apps (also very painful on a palm), write to a cf card for large files, get a decent screen size, and run a lot of programs that are still really useful. I can sync the big files through a cf card reader on my desktop box or my pc card slot on my laptop. I can take the hp to a coffee shop and write down my occasional thought. Bottom line - if I give up the hp one day, it won't be for the palm, it'll be for a better version of a similar configuration. Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 02:25:47 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: S35i or 6210 ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:49:57 +0200 Daniel Hertrich a =E9crit: > First: have you looked at www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx/ ? Yes, of course :-) (Before I buy the S35i, in november, BTW) Nice page, but unfortunately not enough informations about phones usage with cable (I prefer to bring anywhere a 20 cm cable in my pocket but have good connexions _in any conditions_, instead of travel "light" and make sometime some acrobatics to get the phone and the HP correctly placed).. > Maybe this already answers a few of your questions. =20 > Regarding Fax: I use bgfax with 2bgfax (you can find it on SUPER) in > combination with qfax.=20 I don't remember if I tested 2bgfax, but my combination was slightly different than your : ECOFAX for sending, and BGFAX for receiving. Emission and reception worked very well with line modem. With the S35i, nothing at emission (the HP don't found the phone), and some problems in reception (don't remember what, and the S35 was gone before I made more tests... :-( ) > There is no fax software which speaks IrDA, AFAIK, so if you want to > send faxes with your mobile phone, you have to use a data cable! As said before, I will use mostly cable than IrDA... > Does the 6210 support the usage of a data cable? Yes. I think it is about the same modem part than the 7110.=20 =20 > Besides this fax suite, I only use WWW/LX=20 Tried it, but as I said before, I prefer Goin'Postal (and more since it is became freeware ;-) ) > And of course SMS. Looked at PDU, but not tried it before the theft :-( =20 =20 > So if you want to use the S35, ... In fact, I try to get informations to use something else than the S35 ! If it has a good phone section (with one of the better sensiblities), the fact that the modem is hardwired to 19200 destroy all with the fact that some softwares will not accept it... This the main reason of my quest to get more informations about some equivalent phones. The second of the list being the 6210... And BTW, the 3rd could be the Ericsson R320s. Does anybody has tried it with a cable ? Jacques. --=20 The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:41:31 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement, I'd like 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hal, I would encourage you to make this offer, if possible. It would be a great service. Dennis > Normally, we charge $125 for all repairs. When we do get the cases in, we'll see. Maybe I'll offer a $65 special just to repair the case. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:36:02 -1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , scott wormser Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: scott wormser Subject: for sale batt and chrgr for phone batt for sony cm-d 500/600 or qualcom qcp-1900/820/800 1350ma made by recoton pcs 1900 pcs 799 charger and stand and anttena for nec p 110 phone audiovox batt elimnator for minivox mvx700/750 & pr350 cradel charger for vtec tropez platinum charger most new in package ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:17:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Actisys Wireless IR Printer Adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 100 cm is aprox. 1/10 of a meter, and a meter is about 39.9 inches - the unit is good for a range of 4 inches?!?!?!?! And at 19.2Kb/second? Come on, modern laptops can do 4 Mb/second... What use is this device, really? Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick west" To: Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 7:19 PM Subject: Actisys Wireless IR Printer Adapter > Folks, > Has anyone ever heard of this? I looked at their website but > couldn't find any info on this item. Anyone heard of > "Sharp's ASK protocol"? > > > Actisys Wireless IR Printer Adapter > > Lose the cables!!! ActiSys, a Silicon Valley-based > > developer of infrared accessories, has released a slick > > little device which can intelligently switch between > > sending data to your printer or to your computer. The > > ACT-IR3S+ - Infrared Wireless Interface device utilizes > > Sharp's ASK protocol, it handles speeds of 9600 > > and 19.2k bps for a distance of up to 100 cm. > > Patrick > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:25:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement, I'd like 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And I guess a big assumption would be that the hinge crack region would be reinforced in the replacement cases. john ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 20:56:45 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Actisys Wireless IR Printer Adapter In-Reply-To: <05cd01c07f62$758532c0$0201a8c0@double333> from "Ken Hansen" at Jan 15, 2001 09:17:19 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 100 cm is aprox. 1/10 of a meter, and a meter is about 39.9 inches - the > unit is good for a range of 4 inches?!?!?!?! Ummm.... 100 cm *is* one meter. Not 1/10th. (centi = 1/100th). -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:11:34 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Group Project Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Barry wrote: > If the LX formats are modifiable then how can they be used as a base? > What if the user has added extra fields? I think it would have to be > configurable at that end too. The configuration would be in the sync-to-XYZ-PDA module (though it should probably be a "dumb" copy unlike TrueSync, which tried to translate categories but only managed to mangle my Palm database while syncing to a Rex). You could therefore have all sorts of weird & wonderful custom fields on the LX, and tell the sync module to, say, copy between "Web Address" on your LX and "Custom Addr 3" on your Palm. > Is there something like a dictionary in the LX files? That might make > it easier to deal with. Not that I know of, but why would it be necessary? -- - Adrian Ho lexfiend@usa.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:54:40 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: LED light auction on EBay! Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (Sorry I didn't report to all of you guys earlier, so here goes:) Got the LED Light from Daniel (Thanks Daniel!) sometimes last year, tried it, and it worked great! It uses two high intensity LED and plugs into the serial port. Light coverage is pretty good with both LED, but the problem is the length of the wire, which makes it difficult to store when not in use. I suggested using a small antenna instead of a double-wire to Daniel, and haven't had a chance to try it myself. Now, for the interesting stuff: Bought the Nintendo Worm Light, cannibalized a serial cable and fit it to the Worm Light. My impressions: 1. The Worm Light, with its SINGLE LED light, pretty much sucks as it doesn't light up enough of the screen 2. The wire is not even long enough in order to allow the LED to light up more than 50% of the screen. 3. Doing the job will cost you way more in time that the money you'd save by buying it instead of Daniel's LED light. Spare yourself the trouble, forget the Worm Light. Hmm, Alan, the Worm Sounded like a good idea, but I'd try it if I were you... Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Striegel, Alan" To: Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 7:15 AM Subject: Re: LED light auction on EBay! > >From: Daniel Hertrich Ýmailto:d.hertrich@GMX.DE¨ > >Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 1:40 PM > >you can now bid on a LED light (see > >http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight for more information) on ebay. > >item number is 1207667018 > >Additional information about international payment: > >I'll accept cheques up to a value of 99 DM. If the price goes up to > >more than 100 DM, we have to split it up into 2 cheques. > > I'd suggest taking advantage of the volume market. A company named nYko > sells an LED light for the Nintendo GameBoy for less than US$10.00 (nYko has > sold over 2 million of these, called the Worm Light). Put the right > connector on the end and it could serve well for the HPLXes. > > We saw about a dozen of these Worm Lights, in different colors, at Wal-Mart > over the weekend for $7.88 apiece. > > See a review of this product at http://pocket.ign.com/hardware/103.html. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:56:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palmpilot Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A630B56.8027F572@beld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > For those on the list who have experience using various incarnations of >> the Palm, how does it compare as precisely as possible to the 200LX? > >No matter how you slice it or dice it....everything sucks compared to the >perfection of the 200lx. I've tried everything and nothing comes within a >million miles of touching the 200lx. If you are looking for something to >replace the 200llx...don't bother...you will hate everything out there. >My advice....stay with the 200lx even if it means repairing it or upgrading >with DS or more memory (64 meg or 96 meg). I have a 64MB DS 200LX, and I am doing more and more on my Handspring Visor Prism day by day. I still carry and use both at this time. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:39:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palmpilot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > For those on the list who have experience > using various incarnations of the Palm, how > does it compare as precisely as possible to > the 200LX? The Palm has the advantage of being much smaller, lighter and more convenient. It's so much more convenient that it has to be taken pretty seriously. But that's it's only advantage. > Is there software readily available to allow > one to do on the Palm what we can already > do on the 200LX? There is a LOT of very high quality software for the Palm. There is much more for the 200lx. The gap is closing, though. > Is the experience (shifting to the Palm unit) > even worth it? I'm probably not the best one to advise on this. My uses for both have been light. Either will work for me as a pim just fine but I don't need much. More important to me is how much fun it is to program. The 200lx is the easy winner there, too. Although there is an excellent Forth for the Palm. If you're the kind of person that really digs in and learns the system and pushes it hard, you'll probably like the 200lx better. If the weight isn't a problem. If it is, the Palm is a very good tool. If you want something you can use and not think about that much, and your needs are light, the Palm wins. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:46:23 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: Unresponsive keys Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, 18:50:42 +0000 (UTC), Daniel Hertrich wrote: > >1. Maybe your problem is simply a loose press contact between the >keyboard cable and the motherboard. Try yo press the LX's case >together in the area under the menu key to the dot key. There is this >press contact. If you problem disappears when doing this, please >report. I can then guide you through the next steps, if you want. > Daniel, Thank you for your suggestion to press the LX's case together in the area under the menu key to the dot key. My problem was that whenever I press the minus (hyphen) key, it gives a slight shorting sound, as if there is a short circuit affecting this key. With the LX off, I press the area that you mentioned, and the irritating sound is now gone whenever I use the minus (hyphen) key. What are the next steps that you mentioned. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:03:00 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: SMMx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit having given up on Carousel because of data loss due to crashes, i settled for a combination of Maxdos, Morexm, Tasklist, Zoom, QuickView, and Launcher. while browsing the Super site i came across SMMx (System Manager More Menu Ver 1.00b beta Copyright (c) 1995 by TabiKuro (VYF00263@nifty.ne.jp) this resembles XFinder, but is smaller and has better documentation. it even has a swap file, making maxdos obsolete does anyone on this list use SMMx? also, who is this Japanese woman called Hiroko the author TabiKuro wants to have the users of SMMx idolised and send money to? merci Nathalie ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:17:09 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! I've now got the HPLX switching itself on, booting DOS, enabling battery = charging and starting the weatherfax software at 04:20 UTC. The next thing = would be to make it switch the shortwave reciever on at the same time. My NASA Target receiver runs off 12V DC and it is possible to save the = tuned station so it powers up set to the correct frequency even if I use an = external switch. The question then is if it possible to make the LX flip a = 12V relay when it switches itself on at 04:20. The problem is of course = that since the weatherfax software uses the RS232, I can't use a TSR to = hold a pin high on the RS232 and keep the radio powered up. To do this via = the RS232, I would need a circuit that switches the receiver on when it = receives a pulse on one of the pins on the RS232. That should be easy = enough to implement in software, as I'd simply need a small program that = holds one of the pins high for a second or two. Any ideas? What about the = electronics? Another possible option may be to place a reed relay next to the 12V supply = cord for the LX so that the receiver is powered up when the current = throught the LXs supply cord inreases as it switches itself on. The = question is whether the current draw of the LX is enough to flip a reed = relay. Have we got any electronics gurus out there? Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:17:21 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Ban HTML e-mails! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Even though this is OT for the HPLX palmtop, it is very much on topic for = all participants of mailing lists (at least the first part), so I have not = posted it as FLUFF. Bob Meyer wrote (>): > I have been getting a lot of HTML attachments > the last few months. Never used to get them. > They sure are a nuisance especially when Netscape > Navigator does not word wrap long lines. They are even more of a nuisance to those of us who receive the list in = digest format and particularly to those like me who receive our e-mail via = cell-phone and pay a lot of money for a slow connection. Other bloody = nuisances are Vcards and Winmail.dat attachments. Please keep these damned = things off the list! > It is a multistep process for me to create them. > I am in the dark. How are these HTML attachments > created apparantly so simply? HTML is the default mode of Micro$ofts e-mail software. Since most = beginners have no idea that they are sending HTML e-mails and have no way = of knowing it is not accepted practice, they naturally don't change the = setting which is hidden away somewhere in the deep dark recesses of = Outlook. Even if you have changed the setting, if you make changes to your = WindoZzze or Office installation, the setting may be returned to HTML = without you knowing about it! This is Micro$ofts single largest = contribution to making my life miserable! It's probably part of their plot = to clog up and slow down the Internet so they can sell more servers. > Certainly, I agree that quotes should be as short as > necessary It would be really nice if people could use the delete key a bit more. It = cannot be necessary to quote the complete previous message to add a one = line comment. This gets even worse when the quoted message includes quotes = of one or two other old messages! Look above! See what I'm doing here? I'm = quoting a few lines of the previous message and putting my comments = inbetween. It doesn't cost much effort, and makes my reply a hell of a lot = more readable. When deleting something which may be important for the = understanding, it's customary to insert a at the point of the = deletion. > I hate finding HTML and attachments in mail I receive. There is no justifiable reason for sending HTML e-mail, but sadly, = Micro$oft have decided on our behalf that we should all do it. When = installing WindoZzze software, it always "assumes that you want" a hell of = a lot of stuff you have no use for and which may upset the function of = other software. This is one of the main reasons I no longer use a WindoZzze = computer (except for editing my photographs). One of the worst examples was when I needed one of the programs in the = Corel Draw suite for something. Since I wasn't going to use it much, and = only had limited disk space, I installed it to run off CD. Imagine my = surprise and anger when i discovered that the blasted thing had taken over = all my image formats etc, so I had to load the Corel CD to view jpegs! = Arrrghhh! Soapbox mode off... Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:17:55 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Stefan Peichl wrote (>): > Possibly you could solve the 256KB limit > by using EMS on a memory upgraded 200LX. Is there any way I can get EMS on my 2Mb LX? The software was only asking = for 1Mb of EMS. I don't have much on drive C: and what is there can easily = be moved to A:. > It looks like the 256KB limit is related to the > main memory and not the display memory and > if the software detects EMS installed, it probably > uses it. Just a guess. It's possible. I haven't tried running the software in low resolution on = the Toshiba. I'll try that and see if the 256186 byte limit still applies = in low-res mode when there is EMS available. > This indeed doesn't solve the SVGA problem. > But I'm almost sure, the weatherfax software > receives the data in a way appropriate for all > displays and later on cuts off information > because of a detected low resolution CGA monitor. I don't think so. Since the weatherfax signal from the shortwave receiver = is purely analogue, the difference between receiving in high res and low = res mode is probably that in low res, the software simply takes fewer = samples of the signal. The LX may not even be fast enough to receive in = high resolution mode. However, I'm willing to live with the low resolution = in exchange for the convenience and low power consumption of the LX, but I = would prefer not to have a couple of the important faxes truncated just = west of the area I'm interested in. Barry wrote (>): > What about an available disk space issue? > If it's saving to c: and you have 256k left > on C: then that could be the problem. No, I'm saving to A: If the software runs out of disk space it will not = produce an error message before it actually attempts to save the file to = disk. When this happens, it stops with an error message. The file on the = disk is unreadable, but I can still view the complete fax on screen, and if = I delete the faulty file plus something else to make room, I can save the = fax to disk. Depending on the length of the fax, it takes about 10 minutes = to receive a weatherfax, which is evidenced by the difference between the = sheduled transmission time and the timestamp of the file on disk. > Also I'm not sure your test is enough to be > sure it's not memory. If they program allocates > a 256k buffer in ram and you put in 100k > of tsrs but it still has enough ram left for it's > buffer, it would give the same results. Good point, but as I'm booting to a clean DOS, there doesn't seem to be any = way of providing more memory. The point of my experiment was to find out if = the limit was the more or less exact amount of free memory, in which case = the max size would have been 10kb less if I loaded a 10kb TSR. Since the limit doesn't change when I eat a little memory, that would imply = that there is little use in trying to figure out ways of freeing up more = conventional memory unless I'm only a few bytes away from the next magic = limit. Trying to figure out if it's possible to make the situation even = worse by eating a lot of memory seems rather pointless. :o) BTW, the = program won't run at all if I try to run it with the application manager = loaded and the default RAM allocation settings. It'll be interesting to see if the limit applies when running in low-res = mode on the Toshiba. I'll test that tomorrow. I have the day off from work, = as a vital piece of machinery has broken down, and luckily I'm not part of = the repair crew. Poor SODs! The blasted thing is outdoors, and it's been = peeing down with rain for days. PS. A couple of people have e-mailed me off list asking why I don't use a = regular faxmachine (in mid ocean?) and suggesting fax to e-mail and e-mail = to fax services etc, so for those who have not followed the previous = threads on this topic, here is a short explanation of what weatherfax is = all about. Weatherfaxes are black and white charts with isobar lines etc. showing what = the weather is doing and / or what it is expected to do in the future. You = need some basic understanding of weatherforecasting to be able to = understand them. They are transmitted as an analogue datastream on USB on = shortwave radio. Weatherfaxes can be received on a dedicated weatherfax = printer or on a computer connected to a shortwave radio receiver by a = simple interface consisting of an OP-Amp and a couple of other components. = (My receiver has the interface built in.) As long as you have the hardware, weatherfaxes are completely free of = charge. In fact, since the connection is one way just like broadcast radio, = the stations transmitting them have no way of knowing who is listening. = Shortwave weatherfax transmissions are available all over the planet and = are transmitted by several different stations around the world. They work = very well out on the high seas. Some of the weatherfax stations make their charts available on the www, but = considering the cost of surfing the net by cell-phone and the practical = difficulties of doing so in mid ocean, this is hardly an option for a yacht = on passage, particluarly as one needs to receive 5-6 different weatherfaxes = every day to be able to have a good understanding of what the weather is = doing. To the best of my knowledge, the only way of receiving weatherfaxes on a = regular fax machine would be if somebody else receives them (or downloads = them off the net) and faxes them to you, but to receive regular faxes, I = have to be within GSM range (not always the case even along the coast), and = somebody has to pay for sending the faxes. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:18:17 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Connecting to the Internet in mid ocean MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! Dr. Werner Furlan wrote (>): > The advantage is that you need not wait for > a transmission of the weatherfaxes but you > can download them when you want (and run > your motor for this short period of time). On the other hand, If I look at the weatherfaxes around noon, all the = important ones will already have come through and I can look at them = together without having to pay for receiving them. > And you need no ham radio license for this. Surely, you need either a HAM licence or a marine SSB licence (depending on = frequency) to operate a shortwave transmitter even if it's connected to a = computer? > If you have a ham radio license, you could > use the winlink2000 boxes, but I do not know > for my own if they provide recent weather faxes. > The software for these is windows 32 bit, so nothing > for the palmtop afaik. What about e-mail on the palmtop via HF-radio? I think that is more of a = realistic need than going on the www, and would probably need simpler = hardware and / or software than www? > Do you use a solar charger on your boat > to load batteries? just curious. Yes, I have a 45 Watt panel, however, with the fridge etc. I'm already = struggling to meet the daily electricity consumption on the boat while = cruising. Once I leave Europe and the convenience (and expense) of marinas = with 230V AC outlets, I'll probably throw out the fridge and learn to live = without it, as the disadvantages of trying to keep it fed with electricity, = particularly in the tropics far outweigh the advantages of having a small = fridge. An American cruiser said he has a large icebox on his boat, and instead of = using an electric compressor or buying ice to keep it cold, he half-fills = the box with deep frozen beercans before a long passage, so keeps his food = cold and drinks the cold beers all through the passage as they thaw! = Hopefully it is not American beer which is like making love in a canoe. = (Fu**ing close to water... :o) Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 23:54:52 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palm iiic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far, except for BIG CLOCK (cf. letter from Ulrich Boche) I have only had time to play with the built in software. Adrian Ho said it is "unreadable at twilight". Well, the truth is that it is unreadable outside during the day. This is the one really big surprise. I can't imagine what it is about the sun that washes out the screen. Even on a cloudy bright day, it is nearly impossible to read the screen. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< That's true of the Palm 3c and most other TFT screens. I have a Palm 3x and a Palm 3c. If I take one with me I take the 3x. But indoors the 3c is great. The backlight is so good I find myself reading ebooks with it in the dark at night. In fact I keep the backlight down to about 10% brightness. Otherwise it's too bright. My IBM laptop is TFT and it's useless in the sun, too. So is one of my friend's Casio 105. The only ones I've heard that don't have this problem are the Compaq Ipaq and the Sharp laptops. I haven't seen them in the sun but all the reviews say they're just fine. They use a somewhat different technology. I don't know what the drawbacks are, if any. In my opinion, color is not the advantage of the 3c. Brightness is. That screen is just great. A little grainy but very readable. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:12:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Actisys Wireless IR Printer Adapter Comments: To: Patrick west MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Patrick west wrote: > Anyone heard of "Sharp's ASK protocol"? ASK stands for A??? Shift Keying, some kind of wireless digital transmission protocol. If you really want to know what the "A" stands for I can probably find out tomorrow. It's probably nothing special, just an industry standard protocol, or Sharp's variant on an industry standard protocol. Nothing really special, just a bunch of marketing hype to impress people that know nothing about wireless transmission. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:08:26 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Jan 2001 to 15 Jan 2001 - Special issue (#2001-24) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Perl and C already work on the LX, so I > see no need for a new language ;-) I was thinking more along the lines of a beginners language. Something for the non programmers. Something they could just jump right into. But I'm not sure how many would use it. > What about a language that works under > (or created specifically for) the SysMgr and > would allow you to create interpreted > (or compiled) System Manager programs? > would be more interesting than a DOS based > generic language for the LX, IMO. Back in the > 95LX days there was a BASIC for the System > Manager, IIRC. Swift Basic or some such. I agree that would be more useful but it's pretty difficult to write Sysmgr compatible stuff. I don't know how many people would get involved with that. But, if such a language could open apps and push buttons, or contol the apps in other ways, that could be really useful. It's really a nice idea. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:14:09 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group Project Comments: To: Adrian Ho MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Ho" To: "Barry" Cc: "HPLX Mailing List" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:11 PM Subject: Re: Group Project > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Barry wrote: > > > Is there something like a dictionary in the LX files? That might make > > it easier to deal with. > > Not that I know of, but why would it be necessary? Not necessary but maybe useful. If you have like named custom fields they could be automatically linked by default. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 00:36:45 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Actisys Wireless IR Printer Adapter Comments: To: Patrick west MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Patrick west wrote: > Anyone heard of "Sharp's ASK protocol"? Just popped into my head that ASK stands for Amplitude Shift Keying. IIRC one of the first wireless digital transmission schemes, not very high-tech currently. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 23:04:29 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know much details about reed relay characteristics but if my gues= s is that when fast charging is on, the LX probably draw > 100 mA, of which 100 mA is for battery charging. I assume the charging circuit uses linea= r regulator as opposed to switching regulator. Of course one can make one measurement and forget about all the guess work but then where's the fun of writing. Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Owen H. Morgan To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:20 PM Subject: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. Ýdeleted¨ Another possible option may be to place a reed relay next to the 12V supp= ly cord for the LX so that the receiver is powered up when the current throu= ght the LXs supply cord inreases as it switches itself on. The question is whether the current draw of the LX is enough to flip a reed relay. Have we got any electronics gurus out there? Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:08:20 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: SMMx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am using SMMx together with MoreExm to my satisfaction, but together with Maxdos. Also, within SMMx I have set up two versions of HDM, the DOS application manager. One as a normal application manager version, and one as a Maxdos version. They point to the same directory, say one as HDM pointing to A:\DM\DM.exe, and one as MAX HDM pointing to c:\maxdos.com A:\DM\DM.Exe So I hotkey to SMMx, and can choose between running my Dos apps either together with the System Manager apps, or stand alone with all available memory. As opposed to SMMx which quits the System manager when swapping, HDM + Maxdos returns nicely with minimal system overhead. In this way I manage some 20 exm apps under SMMx, and another 26 under HDM ( including command.com itself ). Get's me 350 KB free memory one way, and 550 the other way. Michel -----Original Message----- From: Nathalie Bugeaud Ýmailto:tps-seti@WANADOO.FR¨ Sent: 16 January 2001 06:03 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: SMMx having given up on Carousel because of data loss due to crashes, i settled for a combination of Maxdos, Morexm, Tasklist, Zoom, QuickView, and Launcher. while browsing the Super site i came across SMMx (System Manager More Menu Ver 1.00b beta Copyright (c) 1995 by TabiKuro (VYF00263@nifty.ne.jp) this resembles XFinder, but is smaller and has better documentation. it even has a swap file, making maxdos obsolete does anyone on this list use SMMx? also, who is this Japanese woman called Hiroko the author TabiKuro wants to have the users of SMMx idolised and send money to? merci Nathalie ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:07:03 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Group Project ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 7:59 PM Subject: Group Project > What about a custom HP-LX programming language? Something like OPL > on the Psion. Something that's as easy to use as basic, even for > non-programmers. And maybe even is basic, or similar to it, but that > fits the LX. It could have built-in commands to control or respond > to the special features of the LX. It's functions could be > sensitive to screen size changes, for example. And it could have > functions to change the screen size. > I was thinking more along the lines of a beginners language. > Something for the non programmers. Something they could just jump > right into. But I'm not sure how many would use it. There's LXBatch, I think. One of these fax frontends is written in it. I was thinking of taking a hard look at it, but why I don't know... :-) I like to write (and just about manage!) the "Hello World" program in different languages. Maybe a revised LXBatch? br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:23:57 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Group project ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" > I think we're on to something. There's been some discussion of a > group project for a few days and the fluff level has been reduced by > about 80%. Even I only posted one fluff today. A record, I'm sure. :-) > Somebody suggested a WAP interpreter and I didn't know about WAP, > being retired and years out of date, so I did a little reading about > it on the web. It probably would be an interesting project but I'm > not sure it's one that a lot of people in this group could work on > together. But, I'm not that sure I understand it so I could be > wrong. It would be a good thing to have for the LX. Ugh. I tried WAP seriously for the first time this weekend and it sucks. It must be a marketing ploy, and no wonder it is hardly advertised here in Norway any more, or why one can surf for free or reduced price on a Saturday. WAP is basically a dead horse. It is slow; connects are slow, sending data is slow, everything is slow. Maybe Martin B. can comment? If going in that direction: Much better with a revised html browser. Many people have wanted this. Not mentioning the competition to keep things clean is a good idea lest we upset folks. Two reasons for such a project; one is that Stefan demoed a frames solution on the 200LX and there are often questions about it. There are also a lot of programmers here, and some with assembler experiance. Opera, www.opera.com, has a capable browser down to 2 MB, including an email and news client. They have it for the Epoc too, standard on the Revo. So it should be possible on a DS 200LX. Set the baseline at a DS unit and see? > A general purpose synching program would also be useful to those who > need such a thing. And it might be able to involve more of us. But > how many would really use it? Maybe we should have a count of hands > on that? Would be nice maybe. But then it would 'have to' work with Outlook in all respects. Not just Contacts or Calendar. > One possibility might be to have a few small projects. Maybe > coordinated to let them share code. Although maybe Pal already > takes care of that. I haven't actually used Pal. Maybe we could do > "all of the above". Depends... One good piece or many shoddy ones? Ah well, br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 04:59:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Unresponsive keys Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel wrote: > > 2. If really the key contacts are bad, you had to take apart the > keyboard which is not trivial for someone who hasn't opened the palmtop > before. Did you already open it? If not, I'D rather suggest that you > send it to Thaddeus or to another person who have the skills to clean > the keyboard. By such a person it can easily be done in an hour or so. > Is that so tricky? I have never done it,but as I have got a couple of keys which have become loose kind of,I was going to do it. Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:44:29 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Backlight project or who made the LX LCD? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, I wonder if before quitting the backlight project, the maker of LCD was approached for any info or ideas on removing the backside film? They may even have developed their own backlit variant of the LCD, but never put that into production? BTW, was it Toshiba who supplied the LCD for the HP200LX? Sincerely: Tamas Feher ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:36:54 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Actisys Wireless IR Printer Adapter Comments: To: Patrick west MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Patrick, On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:19:33 -0800, Patrick west wrote: > Folks, > Has anyone ever heard of this? I looked at their website but > couldn't find any info on this item. Anyone heard of > "Sharp's ASK protocol"? The Sharp ASK protocol is one of the three popular IR protocols, besides IrDA and HPSIR (which the palmtop uses). AFAIK ASK and HPSIR are not compatible, but I could be wrong. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:32:27 +0800 Reply-To: star_byte@iprimus.com.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harry Oldenhuis Subject: Re: Actisys Wireless IR Printer Adapter Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi patrick I had the sharp ir printer adapter here and could not get it to go on my lx200 the manual says only use on a sharp Cheers Harry -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Daniel Hertrich Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2001 6:37 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Actisys Wireless IR Printer Adapter Hi Patrick, On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:19:33 -0800, Patrick west wrote: > Folks, > Has anyone ever heard of this? I looked at their website but > couldn't find any info on this item. Anyone heard of > "Sharp's ASK protocol"? The Sharp ASK protocol is one of the three popular IR protocols, besides IrDA and HPSIR (which the palmtop uses). AFAIK ASK and HPSIR are not compatible, but I could be wrong. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:03:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've used the HP-35, 45, 65, 67, 41C, and 42S calculators. I also used some older "console sized" calculators by HP, though I don't remember the numbers. I also had what I think were the only other brand of RPN calculators, the Novus by National Semiconductor. (Who's case is almost a perfect fit for the 200LX.) The HP-67 and 42S are I guess my favorites. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:26:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: SC on Omnibook Comments: To: cwbrad@attglobal.net In-Reply-To: <3A5EDA69.19167.525F6BF@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:20 AM 1/12/01 -0600, Charles W. Bradley wrote: >Hello, > >If one does not have to have WIN 3.1, Software Carousel was very >stable for the years that I used it on a desktop. I have OS/2 v.3 >installed here on two Compaq Aeros running 8mb and 12mb ram. >The only problem that I run into with Warp 3 on these machines is >that the clipboard doesn't have much memory and will truncate >copy - paste operations at about 2 lines of text. Other than that, >DOS does very well on Warp. However, because of the >idiosyncracies of the Aero, I am not able to add any Warp >fixpacks. Therefore, I have to reboot after opening and closing a >number of DOS programs because of the memory leak requires a >fixpack to repair. As it is, working all day rarely requires a reboot to >recover the memory, which is not something that can be said about >Win 3.1 on a low end machine (g). > >Cordially, >Charles Hello, Well, I have admit to being a little flabberghasted that you _can't_ apply a fixpack. Getting the initial install of version 3 seems to be the major hurdle on older laptops. Between the RSU, CID, floppy, hard disk, and "manual" installs of the fixpacks I would have thought that you could have bulled through it. I will admit that I didn't notice the problems or limits that you did. And thus didn't bother with the fixes for version 3. And though I rarely used the clipboard in v. 3, I don't remember any real limits (certainly not 2 lines of text). I guess that you are really at the minimum in memory requirements. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:25:57 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kheehua Hung Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kheehua Hung Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.16.20010116080336.1c7f3ef0@Server030.FWB.SAIC.Com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Ahh, finally someone mentioned National Semiconductor's "Novus". I bought the Novus in 1977 for use in my university study. I still have it and it is still working well. Yes, the case is beautifully constructed. The HP was too expensive for me. So I have never got HP35, etc. Until 1996 when I bought HP48GX. What a beautiful quality product. Then I bought a used HP95LX in 1997. I loved it. All the maths function in RPN ! Plotting. Conversions. What a beautiful product. In 2000, my HP95LX died -- the LCD screen turns black. I think it is working still as I can dimly see that Lotus 123 is still working. How to replace the blackened HP95LX screen? === At 09:03 AM 1/16/01 -0500, you wrote: >I've used the HP-35, 45, 65, 67, 41C, and 42S calculators. >I also used some older "console sized" calculators by HP, >though I don't remember the numbers. I also had what I >think were the only other brand of RPN calculators, the >Novus by National Semiconductor. (Who's case is almost a >perfect fit for the 200LX.) The HP-67 and 42S are I guess >my favorites. > >Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:30:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Jan 2001 to 15 Jan 2001 - Special issue (#2001-24) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry mentioned various programming languages for SysMgr programming on the LX. Have you tried LXBatch? I've been able to use this interpreted language to start SysMgr and DOS apps and feed keystrokes to programs. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:39:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Subject: Re: Newbie programmer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ken London wrote: > > Barry wrote: > > > > > C is a little more challanging overall. > > > > Speak for yourself....after cobol, basic, pascal, fortran, and > assembly > > C was a breeze. I just wish I could have used the others on the > 200lx. > > I got pascal to work but none of the others. > > I've made all those work on the 200lx except fortran and I believe > Microsoft fortran is likely to run on it. I've got the Ryan-McFarland FORTRAN working on the 200LX. And I have the Microsoft compiler working on a Zenith Z-100. So it should work on the 200LX. But RM FORTRAN was smaller. So I have FORTRAN, BASIC, assembly, and PostScript working on my 200LX. Though the PostScript is not practical. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:55:40 -0500 Reply-To: hugo@hexaway.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hugo Subject: OT: HP Calculators In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.16.20010116080336.1c7f3ef0@Server030.FWB.SAIC.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For my part I'm collecting those HP calculators. I came to this when I first bought a 95LX on the internet maybe 5-6 years ago.. I was just amazed by the great quality and versatility of my Palmtop. I then discover the HP Museum of calculator and start collecting them since then. I even bought some calculator on the 200Lx list some time ago. I have several models except some older one. If you would like to contribute to my collecting , feel free to drop me a line telling me which model you're having for sale and how much you want for it. Donation are always accepted :). I'm interested in every model that was made before 1995 even if this model is listed in my collection list below. I'm also considering defective one since I have several defective model that I want to repair. Here's a partial list of my collection: HP-35 HP-45 HP-67 HP-70 HP-71B HP-75C HP-41C with at least 15-17 modules HP-42S HP-27S HP-32SII HP-11C HP-12C HP-15C HP-16C HP-32E HP-33E HP-37E HP-38E HP-25 HP-48G HP-48SX HP-17BII HP-10BII HP-21S HP-18C Hugo -----Message d'origine----- De : HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨De la part de Stephan R. Novosad Envoyi : Tuesday, January 16, 2001 9:03 AM @ : HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Objet : Re: OT: HP Calculators I've used the HP-35, 45, 65, 67, 41C, and 42S calculators. I also used some older "console sized" calculators by HP, though I don't remember the numbers. I also had what I think were the only other brand of RPN calculators, the Novus by National Semiconductor. (Who's case is almost a perfect fit for the 200LX.) The HP-67 and 42S are I guess my favorites. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:57:53 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nvassoc@ATTGLOBAL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan R Leipper Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Jan 2001 to 15 Jan 2001 - Special issue (#2001-24) Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <000f01c07f82$bdf1f280$21fd36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I was thinking more along the lines of a beginners language. > Something for the non programmers. Something they could just jump > right into. But I'm not sure how many would use it. This is called BASIC - at least that's what the Dartmouth folks called=20= it when they designed a programming language such as you describe.=20 Then another academic decided BASIC was leading folks down the wrong=20= path and came up with Pascal. Both of these folks missed a key insight=20= that K&R provided when they came up with c and that is that the=20 problem is not so much the means of expressing the solution as much as=20= it is the process of finding the solution. COBOL and APL provide examples of 'experiments' with how to express=20 solutions at the extremes - one too verbose (to facilitate training=20 was the excuse) and one too terse (to simplify mathematical operation=20= annotation) and both are fading. The other issue (besides expression) in programming is the reflection=20= of structure. This was one of the primary motivations behind Pascal.=20= Smalltalk seems to be the primary model for the latest widely used=20 offerings such as Java (which also borrows from c as far as expression=20= goes). For the 200LX, I think ASM or c with good support libraries such as=20 the published _ Spontaneous Assembly _ and the 200LX access routines=20= are the best bet for the low end (compiled) with Rexx, BASIC, or some=20= other extended batch support for the high end (interpreted). So, perhaps, the problem is not so much to create a new programming=20 language but rather to help people choose an appropriate path for=20 their interests and then helping them to implement development and=20 execution environments to suit their choice. --=20 Bryan K1CD/7 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 08:04:10 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: SMMx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << having given up on Carousel because of data loss due to crashes, i settled for a combination of Maxdos, Morexm, Tasklist, Zoom, QuickView, and Launcher. >> I'm not a big fan of task switchers, tho I still run MaxDOS for selected big apps. I'm surprised that your new combination is more stable than SC, perhaps because it sounds like a Rube Goldberg setup (not to say it won't work tho). << does anyone on this list use SMMx? also, who is this Japanese woman called Hiroko the author TabiKuro wants to have the users of SMMx idolised and send money to? >> The author sounds like a fan, or perhaps a relative. The object of his attention is apparently a writer, composer and singer ... maybe this is her website? -> http://taniyama.hiroko.com/index.html Unfortunately, my Japanese is rusty. Sounds like she's been put on an e-pedestal. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:53:44 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group project Comments: To: nvassoc@attglobal.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 9:57 AM Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Jan 2001 to 15 Jan 2001 - Special issue (#2001-24) >> I was thinking more along the lines of a beginners language. >> Something for the non programmers. Something they could just jump >> right into. But I'm not sure how many would use it. > This is called BASIC - at least that's what the Dartmouth folks called > it when they designed a programming language such as you describe. > Then another academic decided BASIC was leading folks down the wrong > path and came up with Pascal. Both of these folks missed a key insight > that K&R provided when they came up with c and that is that the > problem is not so much the means of expressing the solution as much as > it is the process of finding the solution. We must have read different books. K&R said their main goal in developing c was to make a language that's easy to parse and would compile quickly. > COBOL and APL provide examples of 'experiments' > with how to express solutions at the extremes - one > too verbose (to facilitate training was the excuse) and > one too terse (to simplify mathematical operation > annotation) and both are fading. I read that the reason they made COBOL so verbose was to let managers and businessmen who weren't programmers read the programs anyway. Of course that failed. But that's what the IBM training manuals gave as the reason in the 60's. > For the 200LX, I think ASM or c with good support > libraries such as the published _ Spontaneous > Assembly _ and the 200LX access routines are the > best bet for the low end (compiled) with Rexx, BASIC, > or some other extended batch support for the high > end (interpreted). > > So, perhaps, the problem is not so much to create > a new programming language but rather to help > people choose an appropriate path for their interests > and then helping them to implement development and > execution environments to suit their choice. The problem in this case is to come up with a group project that everyone can participate in. I'm not sure a langauge is it. I was just trying to throw out some ideas that would keep the discussion going until we found something. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:23:19 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Backlight project or who made the LX LCD? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" <> I believe it was Hitachi and they weren't approached. However, my understanding is that the screens in small quantity were VERY expensive to produce. Even 10K is considered small. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:34:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Token-ring cards unhappy w/o MAU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Whoops! looks like you sent the mail to the wrong list. This is the hplx-l > mailing-list, not the token-ring list! > ...But since the subject has been raised, is there a token-ring networking solution for the LX? I only ask because I'm sitting here looking at a Madge token-ring PCMCIA card salvaged from a dead Toshiba laptop... Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:49:58 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nvassoc@ATTGLOBAL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan R Leipper Subject: Re: Group project Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <000c01c07fdc$e4dd1280$59fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > We must have read different books. K&R said their main goal in > developing c was to make a language that's easy to parse and would > compile quickly. Same books, same ideas, just a different view or way of stating the=20 concept. I was hoping that this difference could contribute towards an=20= understanding of the situation. Consider the difference between c and Fortran as both are algebraic=20 but c is more consistent in its structure hence easier to parse which=20= also has influence on its human factors. (c is based on a stream=20 rather than a record and has fewer basic constructs) > I read that the reason they made COBOL so verbose was to let > managers and businessmen who weren't programmers read the programs That's what I read, too. They figured verbosity would do this. It=20 didn't. It seems to be a holy grail to create a programming language that will=20= facilitate everyone writing computer programs. It is similar to the=20 expectation that we can get computers to accept verbal instruction.=20 Both are suffering from a similar misconception that anyone who has=20 experience giving instruction to others should understand. Not all of us are facile in creating unambiguous solution instructions=20= much less being able to craft these instructions into a concise=20 communicable form. I think it is a good goal to try to improve each=20 person's abilities in this area but we must also realize that not=20 everyone has the same skills or talents (or interests). But then again, I consider 'computer literacy' to mean a good grasp of=20= algebra coupled with keyboard skills. This is not politically correct=20= so I am out wandering in the woods seemingly alone. Algebra is not made verbose (like COBOL) or unstructured (like BASIC)=20= to make it easy for everyone to understand it and use it to solve=20 problems. Rather it is concise (minimum of rules), structured, and=20 focused towards unambiguous expression in a manner that facilitates=20 manipulation of concepts to promote development of desired solutions. --=20 Bryan K1CD/7 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:59:12 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Group Project Comments: To: Franklin Eekhout In-Reply-To: <015401c07f9b$b1e865f0$1401a8c0@srs.as> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/16/01 +0100, Franklin Eekhout wrote: >There's LXBatch, I think. One of these fax frontends is written in it. Jorgen's? >I was thinking of taking a hard look at it, but why I don't know... :-) I >like to >write (and just about manage!) the "Hello World" program in different >languages. > >Maybe a revised LXBatch? It is pretty good as it comes. There are some anomalies in it, and some bugs - or at least it works differently from what is described in the docs. It is a powerful addition to the palmtop, but I agree that it could definitely take a leap forward. I'd like to see it able to manage Palmtop built-in databases with native commands, improve on the interactions with other programs, perhaps a front-end "screen painter" allowing you to paint a screen, and then have it translated to code, add procedures to field objects (yeah, make it an object-oriented language :)...). More I/O to printer, serial port, etc. All in all the existing package is a great place to start from. Avi >br > >Franklin > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:13:51 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LARRY FELDMAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LARRY FELDMAN Subject: Re: Group Project Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How about opening up some more of the data/ebook formats that are on the = web now? A popular item these days are electronic books. So far, all I can re= ad on my palmtop is ASCII and Palm DOC format. There are a number of others tha= t are unavailable. This would be a wondeful addition to the HP. Also, what about AVANTGO data, any possibility there? Larry =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D LFeldman@USA.net Listowner: Submini-L: The Subminiature Photography Mailing List ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=3D1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:43:12 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: Memory for Excel 2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Listers. Can anyone help Stephane please? Stephane wrote: >I=B4m having some trouble in setting up emm200 and the config.sys in >order to use large excel files. >The fact is that I=B4m used to work in excel format and that=B4s the >reason wy i don=B4t use 123. > >Can U help me to set up the mem mgr. > >thanks in advance. > >Regards > >St=E9phane SUQUET-LIZARRAGA >Planificaci=F3n Economico-Financiera >Aguas Provinciales de Santa Fe >Tel. 0341 420 67 13 / Fax. 0341 420 67 46 >ssuquet@apsf.com.ar= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:32:11 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bryan wrote (>): > You might put the reed switch on a serial port > line. If I remember right, there are some > utilities to run on the 200LX that will turn the > port on and off. You could use this to turn on and > off the receiver=20 > via a serial control line (receive ready or some > such). I checked the HPLX RS-232 cable and found that when the HP is on and = waiting for faxes there is plus 6V on pin 8 of the 9Df connector and minus = 6V on pin 2 and 6. Is there any reason why I couldn't connect a small 6V = relay between pin 8 and 5 to switch the 12V current for the shortwave = receiver? If so, what is the most current I can draw from pin 8 without = risking damage to the HP? I called a friend of mine today and he had a look = in an electronics catalogue. He found a 6V relay capable of switching up to = 1A that draws 80mW (13.3mA). Is this too much for pin 8? Is pin 8 DTR? The = relay is small enough to fit inside the D9 casing which is useful. The shortwave receiver is connected to pin 4 and pin 5 (ground). What is = pin 4? I measured the power consumption of the receiver and found it's only 96mA = at 12V when the volume is turned down. > In watching the discussion about screen resolution > and so on, I am wondering why you don't run the > 200LX as a data capture device only=20 > and use a full blown laptop with an XGA screen for > viewing. There isn't much point. I can view the weatherfaxes OK on the HPLX screen, = so there is little point in copying them to another computer. The whole = point of the exercise is simplicity. My reason for asking about palmtops = with high resolution screens was that the software does not allow for high = resolution reception on a computer with a CGA screen. > Does the wxfax software provide for full > capture to memory and not to screen? No. If i try to set it to high resolution, I get an error message saying = "Super VGA and 1 Megabyte of EMS memory required." As previously mentioned, = the signal from the shortwave receiver is analogue, and I believe the = difference between high and low resolution reception is the number of = samples taken from the signal. I doubt if the processor in the LX is be = fast enough for high resolution reception. > The comments about battery and power create a bit > of curiosity as to whether you have a means other > than a generator to keep up a charge.=20 > It seems a 40 w solar panel would keep things > charged fairly well. I have a 45 W panel, but the HPLX and Shortwave receiver are not my only = power consumers. Solar panels are not as effective as some people would = have you believe. For one thing, they need direct sun to work, which means = keeping them out of the shade and turning them to face the sun through the = day. In direct sun my panel puts out 3.5A. If I stand between the panel and = the sun it drops to 0.5A. In fact, it's enough if only a couple of the = cells are in the shade. The cells in my panel are arranged in three arrays of 10 cells. Shading = just one of the 30 cells will reduce the output of the panel by almost one = third. Shading one cell from each array is almost as bad as shading the = whole panel. If, for example one is sailing on the starboard tack with the = sun on the port bows, there is practically nowhere on the boat you could = place an panel where it would not be at least partly in the shade. I'd be darned lucky to get as much as 20Ah out of the 45W panel in a sunny = day. My fridge draws around 5A and runs 2 - 3 hours a day, so that's 15Ah = and then I need to use the 20W tricolor navigation light at night when = sailing, so that's another 15 - 20Ah. As you can see, we're already running = at a loss here. Then there's the stereo, a reading light in the evenings, = etc. Of course not all days are sunny... As with everything else, the = answer to electricity is consuming less, not acquiring more. I normally use = oil-lamps for general lighting when away from shore power. Owen --=20 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 c/o Idrettsveien 6, 3188 HORTEN, Norway ohmorgan@iname.com http://pagina.de/naomi.j Phone: +47 92053097 Fax: +47 92174526= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:33:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: infoselect question Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does flexpad use expanded memory also? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Randle" To: Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 10:16 PM Subject: Re: infoselect question On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Ed Padin wrote: > I just a copy of IS and it looks pretty good. I like the freeform nature of snipt It also has brilliant PIM functions, but these add a small amount of binary to the file. It too is limited to a file no bigger than free conventional RAM, but the above features help get around this limitation. I'm a delighted user of this program (as you can probably tell). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:41:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Group project Comments: To: nvassoc@ATTGLOBAL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As someone familiar with Cobol, C, Fortran, Basic, Pascal and Assembler I would suggest the project be with C. C is probably the easiest to learn and is readily available. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:49:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Group Project Comments: To: LARRY FELDMAN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LARRY FELDMAN wrote: > How about opening up some more of the data/ebook formats that are on the web > now? I would not bother.... I think e-books are a dead technology. Recently I tried to donwload Stephen King's the Plant and it took many months to get it to work an hp545. I still don't know if they were downlaoding a corrupt file or if it was the wrong format, but I wouldn't bother with trying to port the format to the 200lx or anything else. If someone wants to read a book I would suggest buying on old fashioned paper. They are so concerned about encryption for these things that they are killing the entire concept. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:54:51 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Unresponsive keys Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Teo, On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:46:23 +0800, Teo Soon Bock wrote: > Daniel, > > Thank you for your suggestion to press the LX's case together in the area > under the menu key to the dot key. My problem was that whenever I press > the minus (hyphen) key, it gives a slight shorting sound, as if there is a > short circuit affecting this key. eh? Do you mean a sound such as the common "bzzz" in comics or so? I cannot imagine that this is a short circuit, since the voltages involved into the circuits in the LX are never greater than 12V. And on batteries not more than 3V, as far as I know. Or is this sound some kind of buzzing, like this one you hear when you have the AC adapter plugged in and press your ear at the LX, but louder? > With the LX off, I press the area that you mentioned, and the irritating > sound is now gone whenever I use the minus (hyphen) key. Sorry - do you hear that sound if the LX is switched on and you press the minus key AND this area or if the unit is on and you only press the minus key? And if you switch the unit off do you still hear that sound if you only press the minus key and NOT the mentioned area? And do the keys that did not work work if you press the mentioned area when the palmtop is switched ON? GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:06:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: SC on the Omnibook Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi friends, > > this messsage goes to the HPLX and to the Omnibook list. > > I finally got my Omnibook 430 today and I tried to tun the palmtop > Software Carousel on it. > Unfortunately it doesn't work. Is says > "Software Carousel only runs on an HP palmtop." > and quits. That is not terribly surprising. The Palmtop SC version is specifically written to run (only) on the HP Palmtop. > So I'll have to use the Windows 3.1 task switching ability. > Or does someone know a work-around? The DOS version of SC, before it was reworked for Palmtops, runs on ANY DOS machine, as I understand it, but I have no hands on experience with it. It you are looking for another type of such software check the MS Task switcher, and probably better than all is QEMM, which is actually a multi-tasker, not just a task switcher. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:06:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: SRAM Cards on Win98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thank you all who replied to me request for help on the SRAM cards. It is working just fine now on my Desktop. These cards are fast and nice to have. I reformatted them on the desktop, and Win98 puts 379(?) 4K clusters and in the palmtop formatting puts 3074 512 bytes clusters on the card, reducing waste (what can you really expect from the Bloatsoft? ) They work very well for me. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:31:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: SC on the Omnibook Comments: To: "sponsor@FTEL.NET" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >From: A Meshar Ýmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨ >Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:06 PM >... >It you are looking for another type of such software check the >MS Task switcher, and probably better than all is QEMM, which >is actually a multi-tasker, not just a task switcher. Are you sure you don't mean Desqview? Quarterdeck made both products; QEMM for freeing up memory, Desqview for multi-tasking. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:34:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Malka Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Malka Subject: recharging batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My old rechargeables having gotten old, I bought some new Nickel Metal Hydride rechargeables from RadioShack. These are listed as 1500mAh and are presently charging in my LX. Does anyone know what the reading in Buddy for such a fully charged battery should be? The package they come in says that "a fully charged AA size NMH battery will measure approximately 1.2 volts. But the reading on the LX (with buddy installed) is usually in the range of 2.9 or so on my old ones. Obviously apples and oranges. What should I look for to know the batteries are fully charged? Also, if I am not wrong, the built in HP charger needs to be reset more thaqn once to fully charge these batteries. Correct? Thanks. Jeff Malka Registered Linux user 183185 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:54:26 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: SC on the Omnibook Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > I finally got my Omnibook 430 today and I tried to tun the palmtop > Software Carousel on it. > Unfortunately it doesn't work. Is says > "Software Carousel only runs on an HP palmtop." > and quits. > > So I'll have to use the Windows 3.1 task switching ability. > Or does someone know a work-around? There is (or was) a generic DOS version of SC. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:03:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:17:36 +0100, Owen H. Morgan wrote: > Howdy! > > Barry wrote (>): > > > One approach could be to make a synch > > program with one open end. The 200lx at > > one end and whatever anybody wants to > > write another end for. > > The trick to that would be coming up with > > some kind of intermediate format that could > > fit just about anything that someone > > might want to adapt. > > For syncing addressbooks, I suppose VCARD might be an idea. It's not perfect, but it is already supported by lots of platforms. I don't use the HP for anything other than weatherfaxes, so please forgive my ignorance if VCARD is already supported. (All the above you wrote was on one(1!) line) I transfer Vcards from Hplx's phonebook to my Nokia 6210. Works great. I would like to transfer Vcalender also but I have not looked so much into this. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:03:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:22:18 -0800, Alfred Lee wrote: Alfred > This watch amongst other capability can have alarms set to a future date and > time. > I feel this greatly compliment the LX because I am not always within an > earshot distant > from the LX and may miss the LX alarm. An IR sync watch alarm is perfect > because > I always have my watch. I always have my phone(Nokia 6210) with me. I would like to be able to transfer Vcalenders too. I almost always carry the Rex3 card. I am looking forward to see what Chris Lott get working regarding Rex3 and Appointmentbook and Notebook/Memo. Regard -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:03:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: S35i or 6210 ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:49:57 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Jacques, Hi from me too. :-) > First: have you looked at www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx/ ? > Maybe this already answers a few of your questions. I think it do. I now have a Nokia 6210 and it works as the 7110 I had. For data and Vcards. It has the same "modem" as the 7110 with one difference. The 6210 supports HSCDS which is High speed data. With the correct initstring I can get Www/lx and 6210 up to a 56.3Kbps. I have not looked into this yet. > There is no fax software which speaks IrDA, AFAIK, so if you want to > send faxes with your mobile phone, you have to use a data cable! > Does the 6210 support the usage of a data cable? Yes you have to get the Dlr3p cable. (Not the same datacable for the 7110 and the 6210). You can find pirate cables that are cheaper than the orginal. > Besides this fax suite, I only use WWW/LX with my S35. This supports > everything I need besides fax. Even Telnet sessions, ftp etc is > possible over IrDA. And of course SMS. > > But be aware that IrDA with the S35 is quite unreliable, because of the > EMI disturbances, which you can nearly entirely eliminate when you use > a Nokia phone. Yves here on the list told me that if you put the Nokia 6210 phone upside down (screen downwards) you get better coverage(says so in the manual somwhere but who reads the manual :-) > So if you want to use the S35, I strongly recommend that you at least > HAVE a cable, so that you can use it if you get tired by the attempts > of getting an IrDA connection. I get a connection every time with the 6210, with the S35 you get sometimes no connection? The throughtput (quality) with the 6210 is not always good becuase of the emiproblem. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 17:03:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 10:23:57 +0100, Franklin Eekhout wrote: Franklin > Ugh. I tried WAP seriously for the first time this weekend and it sucks. A lot of hype thats for sure. I sell wapphones and "wapless" phones all day long and my opinion is that it is "okey" nothing more. A toy hardly usefull for the man in the street. > It > must be a marketing ploy, and no wonder it is hardly advertised here in > Norway any more, Not much advertising thats correct, but it is a lot of questions in my store about wapphones. > or why one can surf for free or reduced price on a > Saturday. That was only in december at weekends was'nt it? You paid 0.25 xre..still the same? > WAP is basically a dead horse. It is slow; connects are slow, Connects a bit slow yes. As a analog modem. But when up it works okey On a 6210. It is a lot faster than a 7110(faster cpu not faster connections..do not use hsdc) > sending data is slow, everything is slow. Maybe Martin B. can comment? I am having a hard time keeping up. A lot of messages to read/reply too.. Standard slotsize is now 14400 so everybody with a phone that supports 14400 can use wap at 14400. I use it mostly to check mailaccounts when I can not download them to the Hplx. > If going in that direction: Much better with a revised html browser. Many > people have wanted this. Not mentioning the competition to keep things clean > is a good idea lest we upset folks. Two reasons for such a project; one is > that Stefan demoed a frames solution on the 200LX and there are often > questions about it. There are also a lot of programmers here, and some with > assembler experiance. I do not surf a lot with my Hplx. I am not sure what I would point the intellect here on the list too. But Rex3 and Vcards/Vcalender is interesting for me. > Opera, www.opera.com, has a capable browser down to 2 MB, including an email > and news client. They have it for the Epoc too, standard on the Revo. So it > should be possible on a DS 200LX. Set the baseline at a DS unit and see? Hv pushes the envelope on what the Hplx can do doen'nt it? I think Andreas said somewhere that it could not be modified to support more than what it did. > > A general purpose synching program would also be useful to those who > > need such a thing. And it might be able to involve more of us. But > > how many would really use it? Maybe we should have a count of hands > > on that? > > Would be nice maybe. But then it would 'have to' work with Outlook in all > respects. Not just Contacts or Calendar. Ff Outlook.. I use Rex3, Nokia 6210 and the Hplx for contacts and calenderstuff. But I see the need for other people for syncing and things like that. > > One possibility might be to have a few small projects. Maybe > > coordinated to let them share code. Although maybe Pal already > > takes care of that. I haven't actually used Pal. Maybe we could do > > "all of the above". > > Depends... One good piece or many shoddy ones? What about Bluetooth. The new cards draws little power I have heard(Yves jump in here if you want). Pop in a Bluetoothcard in the slot and surf wireless while downtown in Oslo is possible I have heard. (a testproject this summer I have heard) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:29:55 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Connecting to the Internet in mid ocean MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Owen, on 16 Jan 2001, at 6:18, Owen H. Morgan wrote about "Re: Connecting to the Internet in mid ocean": > > Surely, you need either a HAM licence or a marine SSB licence (depending > on frequency) to operate a shortwave transmitter even if it's connected > to a computer? I think so. > > What about e-mail on the palmtop via HF-radio? I think that is more of a > realistic need than going on the www, and would probably need simpler > hardware and / or software than www? > You can use your palmtop and a Dos program to connect to a Mailbox and there are several Mailboxes that provide a Hamradio- Email Gateway. The hardware is the same and the best you can find is a Ptc-2 or Ptc-2e Multimode controller. The programs you can use are Plusterm or a Hostmode terminal Program called TOP or SP for this. They run on the Palmtop very well. for the winlink system look at http://www.winlink.org/k4cjx/intro.htm The Winlink2000 mailboxes can only be connected with Airmail which is a 32-bit windows software. http://www.airmail2000.com/ The author Jim is also living on a boat. 73! Werner OE9FW V -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:43:25 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Owen, you could use a so called photo MOS relais instead. It switches up to 1 A with nearly NO current. I have used this kind of relais to key a transmitter, and it works very well with the Palmtop. The price is a bit higher than a normal reed relais, but you will not have any trouble with the current from the serial line. In my experience the current from the serial is not enough to switch a reed relais. (I tried several of them before I found this photo MOS relais) If the receiver needs more than the Photo MOs relais can switch you can switch a normal relais with it. 73! Werner OE9FW V on 16 Jan 2001, at 21:32, Owen H. Morgan wrote about "Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever o": > > I checked the HPLX RS-232 cable and found that when the HP is on and > waiting for faxes there is plus 6V on pin 8 of the 9Df connector and > minus 6V on pin 2 and 6. Is there any reason why I couldn't connect a > small 6V relay between pin 8 and 5 to switch the 12V current for the > shortwave receiver? If so, what is the most current I can draw from pin > 8 without risking damage to the HP? I called a friend of mine today and > he had a look in an electronics catalogue. He found a 6V relay capable > of switching up to 1A that draws 80mW (13.3mA). Is this too much for pin > 8? Is pin 8 DTR? The relay is small enough to fit inside the D9 casing > which is useful. > -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:17:39 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM Subject: Re: recharging batteries Comments: To: Jeff Malka In-Reply-To: <001e01c08004$2d981520$3d0a37ce@jsm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The voltage of Nickel Metal batteries is 1.3v per battery. so when you show 2.6 the batteries are nominally at full voltage. Many people push the charging to almost 3V and lo and behold they actually see that voltage! ... for a few minutes... Then the voltage drops to the working range between 2.45V and 2.6V - where the batteries spend the vast majority of their life... A much better indicator is the time you charge the batteries, presumably putting in them all the power possible. I could recommend ABC/LX (made by D&A Software, which I head), but you already know about that product. Along with that, there are several other good pieces of software - check SUPER... Avi At 1/16/01 -0500, you wrote: >My old rechargeables having gotten old, I bought some new Nickel Metal >Hydride rechargeables from RadioShack. These are listed as 1500mAh and are >presently charging in my LX. > >Does anyone know what the reading in Buddy for such a fully charged battery >should be? The package they come in says that "a fully charged AA size NMH >battery will measure approximately 1.2 volts. But the reading on the LX >(with buddy installed) is usually in the range of 2.9 or so on my old ones. >Obviously apples and oranges. > >What should I look for to know the batteries are fully charged? > >Also, if I am not wrong, the built in HP charger needs to be reset more >thaqn once to fully charge these batteries. Correct? > >Thanks. > >Jeff Malka >Registered Linux user 183185 > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 15:11:48 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: SC on the Omnibook Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" In-Reply-To: <454226824160D3118F9D00508B08F15A02624C8E@piouspkldmail.pio s.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yes, both. Thanks for the heads up. At 1/16/01 -0500, you wrote: > >From: A Meshar Ýmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨ > >Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:06 PM > >... > >It you are looking for another type of such software check the > >MS Task switcher, and probably better than all is QEMM, which > >is actually a multi-tasker, not just a task switcher. > >Are you sure you don't mean Desqview? Quarterdeck made both products; QEMM >for freeing up memory, Desqview for multi-tasking. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 16:25:09 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Actisys Wireless IR Printer Adapter Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks --- Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:19:33 -0800, Patrick west > wrote: > > > Folks, > > Has anyone ever heard of this? I looked at their > website but > > couldn't find any info on this item. Anyone heard > of > > "Sharp's ASK protocol"? > > The Sharp ASK protocol is one of the three popular > IR protocols, > besides IrDA and HPSIR (which the palmtop uses). > AFAIK ASK and HPSIR > are not compatible, but I could be wrong. > > GTX > daniel > > -- > Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de > home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de > mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 > unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:14:59 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Petty Family Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Petty Family Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I started with the HP48SX then GX (which got me through college). I also had an OB300 for notes and term papers. I eventually replaced the HP300 with the 200LX and HP800CT. I did hold on to the first two calculators (RPN and on-board ROM still rule). Alan >From: "Stephan R. Novosad" >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , >"Stephan R. Novosad" >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: OT: HP Calculators >Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:03:25 -0500 > >I've used the HP-35, 45, 65, 67, 41C, and 42S calculators. >I also used some older "console sized" calculators by HP, >though I don't remember the numbers. I also had what I >think were the only other brand of RPN calculators, the >Novus by National Semiconductor. (Who's case is almost a >perfect fit for the 200LX.) The HP-67 and 42S are I guess >my favorites. > >Steve > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:21:23 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: Unresponsive keys In-Reply-To: <200101162055.f0GKtuB20517@mars.post1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Daniel, It is difficult to distinguish between the two types of buzzing sound that you mentioned, but I think it was more like the first one, where the buzz is audible without having to place my ear near to the LX. Previously with the LX switched on, there will be a slight buzz whenever I press the minus key during normal usage, not in the case of pressing the ON and minus keys at the same time. When I saw your suggestion to another post of unresponsive keys, to press the LX's case together in the area under the menu key to the dot key, I thought to myself that it is worth a try. With my LX switched off, I press that area (once only), and now when I am using the LX, there is no more buzzing sound whenever I press the minus key. I do not know what caused the buzzing sound which occurred only about 2 - 3 months ago. May be some dirt in the contact beneath the minus key. At 09:54 PM 1/16/01 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: >Hi Teo, > >On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 12:46:23 +0800, Teo Soon Bock wrote: > >> Daniel, >> >> Thank you for your suggestion to press the LX's case together in the area >> under the menu key to the dot key. My problem was that whenever I press >> the minus (hyphen) key, it gives a slight shorting sound, as if there is a >> short circuit affecting this key. > >eh? >Do you mean a sound such as the common "bzzz" in comics or so? >I cannot imagine that this is a short circuit, since the voltages >involved into the circuits in the LX are never greater than 12V. And on >batteries not more than 3V, as far as I know. > >Or is this sound some kind of buzzing, like this one you hear when you >have the AC adapter plugged in and press your ear at the LX, but >louder? > >> With the LX off, I press the area that you mentioned, and the irritating >> sound is now gone whenever I use the minus (hyphen) key. > >Sorry - do you hear that sound if the LX is switched on and you press >the minus key AND this area or if the unit is on and you only press the >minus key? >And if you switch the unit off do you still hear that sound if you only >press the minus key and NOT the mentioned area? > >And do the keys that did not work work if you press the mentioned area >when the palmtop is switched ON? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:38:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Beginner's Programming Language Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > > Perl and C already work on the LX, so I > > see no need for a new language ;-) > > I was thinking more along the lines of a beginners language. > Something for the non programmers. Something they could just jump > right into. But I'm not sure how many would use it. REXX is a good language for beginners and it is still useful when you progress past that stage. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 01:38:49 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: infoselect question Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ed Padin wrote: > Does flexpad use expanded memory also? No; at I couldn't find any mention of it in the doc. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:56:37 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: recharging batteries In-Reply-To: <001e01c08004$2d981520$3d0a37ce@jsm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:34 PM 1/16/01 -0500, Jeff Malka wrote: > >What should I look for to know the batteries are fully charged? > >Also, if I am not wrong, the built in HP charger needs to be reset more >thaqn once to fully charge these batteries. Correct? > I am using Peniel Romanelli's Charge-It! battery charging controller/monitor, which is a freeware downloadable from the SUPER site. There is no need to reset the charging more than once to fully charge the batteries. Charge-It! draws a graph as the batteries are charging, and even turns it off once they are fully charged. I also use a 416 byte BAT.COM from Jorgen Dybdahl's Charging, which can show the state (in percentages) of your main and backup batteries in the LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 20:11:09 -0800 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: USER 1 Subject: Re: SMMx Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > > having given up on Carousel because of data loss due to crashes, i settled > for a combination of Maxdos, Morexm, Tasklist, Zoom, QuickView, and > Launcher. > > while browsing the Super site i came across SMMx (System Manager More Menu > Ver 1.00b beta Copyright (c) 1995 by TabiKuro (VYF00263@nifty.ne.jp) > > this resembles XFinder, but is smaller and has better documentation. it even > has a swap file, making maxdos obsolete > > does anyone on this list use SMMx? > also, who is this Japanese woman called Hiroko the author TabiKuro wants to > have the users of SMMx idolised and send money to? > > merci > > Nathalie > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Nathalie: I was going to buy Carousel or Super Carousel is it the fault of the prog or other causes that your HP 200LX had? let me know------Bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:42:12 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. Owen H. Morgan writes: > The question then is if it possible to make the LX flip a 12V relay > when it switches itself on at 04:20. It seems to me that any system which you used to detect that the HPLX was switched on would also have to be "on" all the time in order to detect the HP switching on, thereby wasting more of your precious electricity. I would think that in your case a mechanical timer of some sort which switched on the receiver would be the best bet. Like in the old movies with the explosive taped to an alarm clock! David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:39:18 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kheehua Hung Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kheehua Hung Subject: Re: Unresponsive keys In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, thanks Daniel for the suggestion. I did not try your method as the problem has disappeared. This was a used Hp200LX. Maybe my constant daily usage of it has exercised the unit, or, I had accidentally pressed something & contacts are ok again. What is the "next step"? opening up the HP200LX ? Always wondering how to do that. Kheehua ================== At 07:50 PM 1/15/01 +0200, you wrote: >Hi Kheehua, > >On Sun, 31 Dec 2000 12:44:24 +0800, Kheehua wrote: > > > Hi, my 200LX seems to have some unresponsive keys like "Q", "left arrow", > > "full stop" and a few others. I need to press them harder Wonder if I can > > spray WD40 or some such thing on the keys to improve contact? > >Since the contacts are between two plastic foils, blowing with >compressed air wouldn't work. And WD40 (which is, AFAIK, a spray that >losves corrosions etc. ("contact spray")) would flow over the top foil >and have no effect besides flooding your keyboard! > >I see two possibilities: > >1. Maybe your problem is simply a loose press contact between the >keyboard cable and the motherboard. Try yo press the LX's case >together in the area under the menu key to the dot key. There is this >press contact. If you problem disappears when doing this, please >report. I can then guide you through the next steps, if you want. > >2. If really the key contacts are bad, you had to take apart the >keyboard which is not trivial for someone who hasn't opened the palmtop >before. Did you already open it? If not, I'D rather suggest that you >send it to Thaddeus or to another person who have the skills to clean >the keyboard. By such a person it can easily be done in an hour or so. > >GTX >daniel > > >-- >Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de >home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de >mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 >unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:20:18 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Backlight project or who made the LX LCD? Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Hal, On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 11:23:19 -0600, Hal Goldstein wrote: > I believe it was Hitachi and they weren't approached. However, my > understanding is that the screens in small quantity were VERY expensive to > produce. Even 10K is considered small. If you are intersted in a solution re. the screen reflective layer problem (is the project really cancelled only because of this problem?), I have found a person who can perhaps help here! I told him what the problem is and he said he knows what solvent to use... But he said also it could be a problem if a polarizing filter is in between the reflective layer and the LCD glass. Is there? Shall I give him your email address so that he can help you? GTX daniel P.S.: It _was_ Hitachi who made the screen. I contacted them on Cebit 2000 in Hannover because of the screen and tried to talk to a person who knew a person who could maybe help, but this other person never called me as promised. :-( -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:12:32 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Group Project ----- Original Message ----- From: "LARRY FELDMAN" >Also, what about AVANTGO data, any possibility there? This would be a good idea, I have asked about it before. ROBOT/LX is available as a front-end (if I have understood it's function). LXBatch as the GUI? br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:20:37 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Group project Martin wrote: > Hv pushes the envelope on what the Hplx can do doen'nt it? I think > Andreas said somewhere that it could not be modified to support more > than what it did. Here we go again... :-) Remember that _I_ am the culprit this time, folks! The Revo is a ARM RISC cpu at 36 MHz. The DS 200LX is a CISC cpu at ~15 MHz? About equal in performance? How is RAM organized on the Revo? Anybody? Is there a page somewhere that uses a similar benchmark to benchmark all CPUs, including the x86 series? It is interesting to note that in use these RISC cpu's seem sluggish, but that is maybe the OS? > What about Bluetooth. The new cards draws little power I have > heard(Yves jump in here if you want). Pop in a Bluetoothcard in the > slot and surf wireless while downtown in Oslo is possible I have heard. > (a testproject this summer I have heard) This might be a good idea too. Depends on Bluetooth availability in the US, I think, if folks 'over there' find it interesting. br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:20:37 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Group project Martin wrote: > Hv pushes the envelope on what the Hplx can do doen'nt it? I think > Andreas said somewhere that it could not be modified to support more > than what it did. Here we go again... :-) Remember that _I_ am the culprit this time, folks! The Revo is a ARM RISC cpu at 36 MHz. The DS 200LX is a CISC cpu at ~15 MHz? About equal in performance? How is RAM organized on the Revo? Anybody? Is there a page somewhere that uses a similar benchmark to benchmark all CPUs, including the x86 series? It is interesting to note that in use these RISC cpu's seem sluggish, but that is maybe the OS? > What about Bluetooth. The new cards draws little power I have > heard(Yves jump in here if you want). Pop in a Bluetoothcard in the > slot and surf wireless while downtown in Oslo is possible I have heard. > (a testproject this summer I have heard) This might be a good idea too. Depends on Bluetooth availability in the US, I think, if folks 'over there' find it interesting. br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:27:05 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: S35i or 6210 ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jacques Belin wrote (>): > This the main reason of my quest to get > more informations about some equivalent > phones. The second of the list being the > 6210... And BTW, the 3rd could be the > Ericsson R320s. Does anybody has tried > it with a cable ? I don't know about the R320s, but I have the Ericsson SH888. It works very = well with my MC218 EPOC palmtop via infrared. Sadly, the SH888 cannot be = used via cable. The reason for this is that some idiot at Ericsson decided = that the phone should talk IrDA protocol over the cable, and as far as I = know, only WindoZzze 95 and NT are capable of this. It is certainly not = possible in Win 98, EPOC, Mac, Palm or DOS. I don't know about Win 2000 or = whatever. I do not know if the R320s has the same stupid design flaw as the SH888, = but do make sure to check before buying. BTW, I have an Ericsson DI28 = Infrared modem which fits the newer 3.6V Ericsson phones like the T28 if = anyone is interested. It came with my palmtop, but as I have no intention = of buying a phone that doesn't have an IR-port built in, I have no use for = it. This might be a good option for HPLX users, as it places the IR-port at = the opposite end of the phone from the antenna, so could help towards = minimising RF interference. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:59:43 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Unresponsive keys Comments: To: Kheehua Hung MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Kheehua, On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:39:18 +0800, Kheehua Hung wrote: > Hi, thanks Daniel for the suggestion. I did not try your method as the > problem has disappeared. This was a used Hp200LX. Maybe my constant daily > usage of it has exercised the unit, or, I had accidentally pressed > something & contacts are ok again. Great! :-) > What is the "next step"? opening up the HP200LX ? Always wondering how to > do that. Yes, either opening would have been the next step or prying off the keyboard cover. I desribed the latter already (take a blade at the beginning). Opening is a bit tricky. You would have to remove the rubber feet, remove the 4 Torx6-screws and then CAREFULLY lever the palmtop case apart using a credit card or another card of that size and material. But one has to be very careful not to damage 1. The keyboard cable 2. the main board 3. the wires from the AC jack to the mainboard 4. The case itself opening it by force and all other things. Once the palmtop case is open, you can easily remove the mainboard (after disconnecting the LCD cable). Then you can see the ~150 pins that hold the keyboard. You would have to press them out with a little screw driver or so. Any more questions?? GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:05:15 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Virus Alert! NOT a hoax! Comments: To: UPS5 mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone. This is a warning to anyone who has an iname.com or mail.com e-mail = address. Yesterday, I received an e-mail from with the file LHLHGALH.EXE attached. There was no = explanatory text. As I was suspicious that the file might contain a virus, = I forwarded the message to . I received an automatic = message in return stating that I had sent a message containing a known = virus and it had been placed in quarantine. It looks to me like someone has found a way of sending e-mails to all = mail.com users and have tried to make it look like this was something sent = out by the mail.com staff. If you are a mail.com user and have received this file, please just delete = it from your system without running it! On the other hand, if you're dumb = enough to run executables you receive from strangers without virus checking = them, you deserve what you get... Owen -- @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 c/o Idrettsveien 6, 3188 HORTEN, Norway ohmorgan@iname.com http://pagina.de/naomi.j Phone: +47 92053097 Fax: +47 92174526 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:28:00 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: WAP vs. C-HTML MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Franklin Eekhout wrote: > I tried WAP seriously for the first time this weekend and it sucks. Japan's answer to WAP is C-HTML. The german newspaper FAZ had on 19-DEC-00 a very good article about it in it's technical part. I think it's not yet decided, which of both will become the mobile standard. I hope for C-HTML. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:28:02 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Owen H. Morgan wrote: > Since the weatherfax signal from the shortwave receiver > is purely analogue, the difference between receiving in > high res and low res mode is probably that in low res, > the software simply takes fewer samples of the signal. How should that work? If the data is a fax, then it is Hufman coded, and you receive complete garbage by taking fewer samples, because you cannot rebuild the original fax. But even if the data is just the image information in let's say 256 grayscales, then every transferred byte represents one grayscale pixel value. Reducing the sample rate would mean to take only every second byte or so, which would destruct the complete image, but not reduce the color depth of the image. No, I'm sure the software receives the identical data no matter if running on the palmtop or under SVGA on a desktop. Because you receive through the serial port, only the used baudrate is the bottleneck. > * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * Could you please change your email line length configuration to something in the range 64-80 characters? Your line lenght is now 160 chars, which is no problem while reading your emails (with POST/LX), but if I answer to your mail, your original line lenght is presented. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:56:53 +0100 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: Virus Alert! NOT a hoax! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Owen H. Morgan wrote: > ÝSnow White or Hybris Virus description¨ > It looks to me like someone has found a way of sending e-mails to > all mail.com users and have tried to make it look like this was > something sent out by the mail.com staff. This has nothing to do with mail.com specifically. The worm is sent by an attachment which users need to execute. I'm not aware that this worm replicates without help from the receiver. The worm uses the envelope address <> (the null address reserved for error messages). Some providers translate the address to >, that's why mail.com show's up in your mail. Details about the worm can be found on http://vil.nai.com/vil/virusChar.asp?virus_k=98873 Besides that, I do not think that general virus warnings are specifically related to HP-LX and thus should not be posted here. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:48:05 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, On 16 Jan 2001, at 23:42, David Becher wrote: > > It seems to me that any system which you used to detect that the HPLX > was switched on would also have to be "on" all the time in order to > detect the HP switching on, thereby wasting more of your precious > electricity. > not correct. In fact the HP200 would switch on the external system when the serial port powers up. This "standby" position does not use any current. Werner Thought for the day: Book (n): a utensil used to pass time while waiting for the TV repairman. -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:06:40 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! Dr. Werner Furlan wrote (>): > you could use a so called photo MOS relais > instead. It switches up to 1 A with nearly NO > current. I have used this kind of relais to key > a transmitter, and it works very well with the > Palmtop. Sounds like just the thing I need. Do you have any more details? Part = number, manufacturers name etc. Does it need any other components like = resistors or condensators etc. or is everything I need in the one = component? What did you use it for? Transmitting CW? > The price is a bit higher than a normal reed > relais, but you will not have any trouble with > the current from the serial line. I don't think the price will be that much of a problem as I only need one. = Still, maybe I should get a couple in case I have another bright idea = later... Possibly make the MC218 switch my anchor light on and off at = sunset and sunrise (The times could be read from the Time application in = the MC218... :o) > If the receiver needs more than the Photo > MOs relais can switch you can switch a > normal relais with it. 1A would be plenty. The receiver only draws 96mA with the volume turned = down. PS. The backlight on the LCD in my stereo system stopped working the other = day. First I though, "Oh Drat! Now I'm going to have to repair that." Then = I though, "Oh that's nice, it now uses less electricity..." Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 08:40:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Westley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Westley Subject: Group Project Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I just had an idea pop into my head for a Group project: If Thaddeus has possession of the injection mold for new covers, what is the possibility of getting that mold modified to accept an internal backlight? I guess "backlight is not necessarily the right word -- maybe "edge light". It seems that the most effective, at least so far, lighting schemes involve indirect lighting of some sort. Perhaps after the first run of replacement covers and a good supply is established, that would be the time to see about modifying the mold. That would be a popular replacement item, judging by the message traffic. As for the feasibility, I'll leave that to others. As for the suggestion of a color screen, I'll hold off on that one until later. Jim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:27:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: So where is PAL now? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" With all the recent talk about programming for the HPLX, I went looking for the Palmtop Application Library. The SUPER page's reference to it at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gilles/pal.htm is no longer any good. It's actually found here: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gilles/pal/PAL.htm. Going in another direction, there is a simple programming language with quite a bit of HPLX-specific extensions in it, known as TIPI. Described by the author, Kent Peterson, as a small, elegant, extensible programming system drawing from the best elements of Forth, C, Pascal, and AWK, TIPI is shareware. When I asked about registering the package (just yesterday) Kent sent me a registration code for free. Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:17:10 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Connectivity Pack and WinNT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Has anyone seen this problem. I have been using the connectivity pack at work on my computer that runs WinNT. I've used it many times. The other day I tried it and it would open up but I could not run the filer. All other conpack apps run just fine. I tried re-installing but it didn't help. Thanks, Owen Samuelson ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 09:40:52 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack and WinNT In-Reply-To: <000f01c0806e$a7cd9580$0a4156d1@homepc> from "Owen Samuelson" at Jan 17, 2001 10:17:10 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I've used it many times. The other day I tried it and it would open up but I > could not run the filer. All other conpack apps run just fine. I tried > re-installing but it didn't help. Owen: I used to have an NT machine at my old job. I would have this problem too. It would quit working for months at a time, then suddenly it would start working again. I tried all sorts of tricks, and none seemed to be the trick. I finally accepted the odd behaviour. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:05:53 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" <> We don't. Long story -- but we aren't directly manufacturing them. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:31:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > If someone wants to read a book I would > suggest buying on old fashioned paper. > They are so concerned about encryption > for these things that they are killing the entire > concept. There are a number of pirate etext newsgroups that give all the new books away free. Even the ones that aren't published in ebook format. They scan them in themselves. You can download anything from the latest novels to the latest self help and the latest computer books. If you don't see what you want, post a request and it'll be there in a couple of weeks. People were downloading the latest Harry Potter novel a few weeks before it was available in stores. There's a lot of money going to be made in ebooks and that will draw the publishers in. When they find out they're competing with free and unprotected books, they'll have to find ways to make readers want to buy their product. It's kind of like the software industry. For years everything had elaborate protection shemes and they lost sales to the few that didn't. So most companies stopped using protection, realizing that all things being equal, most people prefer to be honest. They'll figure that out in the publishing industry, eventually. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:20:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Renaux, Bob" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Renaux, Bob" Subject: HPLX Software for OB 425? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I've got a couple of question. Does anyone know if any of the HPLX software, like WW/LX or Transfile can be made to work on an Omnibook 425? A while ago saw mentioned on the list an Omnibook list mentioned. Does anyone know of this list and how I might subscribe? Thanks for any help. Rob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:42:24 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") In-Reply-To: <3A632A360002174C@mail.epost.de> (added by postmaster@mail.epost.de) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:28 PM 17/01/01 +0000, you wrote: >Owen H. Morgan wrote: > >> Since the weatherfax signal from the shortwave receiver >> is purely analogue, the difference between receiving in >> high res and low res mode is probably that in low res, >> the software simply takes fewer samples of the signal. Hi Owen & list If I read the above correctly this weatherfax is a standard fax recieved via HF radio. Is this correct? Where can I obtain these faxes to play around with? On the net? I have recieved faxes before on a DOS computer using a couple of fax packages. (I have them floating around somewhere in my million floppy disks :) ) I wasnt able to get BGfax (Super) working on my LX but have used bitfax (Dos) Could this solve the truncation prob? Are you stuck with weatherfax software to recieve this info? Re turning on the shortwave reciever Could an IR signal be used as in remote control of TV's etc Perhaps a batch file sending a signal via IR port before running fax software.. after fax recieved then turn off reciever via IR? Cheers Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:50:23 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: FLUFF: Why this list is as great as America Comments: To: Paul Ainsworth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > My understanding is that hispanics (for the purpose of the U.S. > > government) are those that have a spanish surname regardless of whether > > they speak spanish or english or any other language. > > If I recall, there was an option on the census to specify your race. > Perhaps they just extrapolate from the information they get about that. And while I do not know what the census bureau does these days, when I worked for them way back when (73?), at that time, if respondents did not provide their own racial origin, the interviewer was to make a best guess. This was in face-to-face interviews. It was one of those odd jobs that got me through! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:50:36 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HP200LX versus the Palmpilot Comments: To: David Ball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Sadly, I'm afraid this may be true. However, because of pressing needs > to synchronize with the Outlook software at work, and because of my > concerns over the increasingly orphaned state of the 200LX, I will more > than likely move in this direction anyhow. Have you looked at Curtis Cameron's Outlook sync or copy software? It's on super. I don't think it does email box syncing. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:07:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Virus Alert! NOT a hoax! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Considering how much fluff gets posted, I would say that this is okay. At least it may save someone difficulty. > > Besides that, I do not think that general virus warnings are > specifically related to HP-LX and thus should not be posted here. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:06:11 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Alternate power sources MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Owen wrote: "As I've already mentioned, generating and storing enough electricity is one of the major challenges for a cruising sailboat. " Just a thought, but have you tried using a solar panel battery charger to recharge batteries for your LX? Or how about hooking up a small wind generator to recharge the batteries? With all of the talents that people in this list have, someone should be able to come up with some plans for you. Robert A. Feldman Robert_Feldman@jdedwards.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:15:50 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nvassoc@ATTGLOBAL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan R Leipper Subject: Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") Comments: To: Russell Hemery In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010118034224.00962100@powerup.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > At 01:28 PM 17/01/01 +0000, you wrote: > >Owen H. Morgan wrote: > Where can I obtain these faxes to play around with? The weather maps sent via HF are not your normal fax. They are TIF=20 files but the page size is much larger than typical office faxes and,=20= of course, the transmission method is a bit different (can only use=20 300 baud rather than 14,400 for instance). The current US surface=20 weather map at http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/fax/QYAA00.TIF,MAP can give you an idea of what is being sent.=20 A reader for TIFF files can be found at=20 http://www.mieweb.com/alternatiff/ "AlternaTIFF is a free Netscape-style browser plug-in that displays=20 most of the common types of TIFF image files. It requires Windows=20 95/98/NT/2000, and a 32-bit web browser. It is intended to work with=20= Netscape Navigator/Communicator 3.0 and higher, Microsoft Internet=20 Explorer 3.0 and higher, and Opera 3.51 and higher. It may also work=20= with other browsers." --=20 Bryan K1CD/7 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:25:58 -0600 Reply-To: melancon@microgear.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Melancon Subject: OT: Omnibook List Info (Was-Re: HPLX Software for OB 425?) Comments: To: "Renaux, Bob" In-Reply-To: <38A1B3B8808FD21196C100A0C9E93A737BB387@mail.ucoop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I've got a couple of question. > > Does anyone know if any of the HPLX software, like WW/LX or Transfile can be > made to work on an Omnibook 425? Probably so. You might have to use Palrun. > > A while ago saw mentioned on the list an Omnibook list mentioned. Does > anyone know of this list and how I might subscribe? > > Thanks for any help. > > Rob > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Here is some info on the Omnibook mailing list (Omnilist) There are searchable archives at: http://www.omnibook.org/omnilist/ To subscribe to the list do the following: ======================================================== To subscribe to "omnibook", send an email to: listproc@elektro.cmhnet.org With a single message line like this, replacing "Your-Name" with your name: subscribe omnibook Your-Name ======================================================== To send messages to this new list, mail them to: omnibook@elektro.cmhnet.org ======================================================== There are lots of folks you will recognize from the HPLX list on the Omnilist - Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:43:22 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: recharging batteries Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I am using Peniel Romanelli's Charge-It! battery charging Anybody know where he disappeared to? He was a strong advocate of xfinder and kept us apprised of its in's and out's and new versions. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:43:33 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: SMMx Comments: To: camba1@pacbell.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Nathalie: I was going to buy Carousel or Super Carousel is it the fault > of the prog or other causes > that your HP 200LX had? I am not sure what problems Nathalie has/had with Carousel but I've never had any problems with it that I'm aware of. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:43:39 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: So where is PAL now? Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Going in another direction, there is a simple programming language with > quite a bit of HPLX-specific extensions in it, known as TIPI. Described by > the author, Kent Peterson, as a small, elegant, extensible programming > system drawing from the best elements of Forth, C, Pascal, and AWK, TIPI is > shareware. When I asked about registering the package (just yesterday) Kent > sent me a registration code for free. Is Kent still located in the Seattle area? Met him at a few HP meetings locally. I also remember him sponsoring a Tipi programming project contest of some sort a number of years back. He was very enthusiastic and a really nice guy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:46:38 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Backlight project or who made the LX LCD? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <> Yes, we would like a solution. However, in truth, reliably removing the screen's reflective layer was just part of the difficulty. The problem in a nutshell is to come up with a reliable 99.9% method of upgrading the screen in a process that wouldn't take more than 20 minutes, 30 at most. Mack's tech says it is impossible. David Sergeant and John Musielewicz both independently thought it was doable and put in valiant efforts and then both just dropped out. There is NO supply for screens if we botch upgrades up. That is where the project is. If someone thinks they can come up with a reliable method, we may be able to supply bad screens and parts. However, David never returned to Mack or I boards that were built, and I doubt Mack wants to build more. If anyone is in contact with David, please tell him we would like the boards back. Thanks, Hal ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:25:25 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! Alfred Lee wrote (>): > I don't know much details about reed relay > characteristics but if my guess is that when fast > charging is on, the LX probably draw > 100 mA, of > which 100 mA is for battery charging. I assume > the charging circuit uses linear regulator as > opposed to switching regulator. Of course one can > make one measurement and forget about all the > guess work but then where's the > fun of writing. I measured the power consumption of my LX when connected to external power. = Here are the figures: Switched off: 13mA (!) Switched on, but doing nothing: 26mA Monitoring the RS232 for incoming faxes: 40mA. Fast charging and monitoring the RS232 for incoming faxes: 156mA. This would imply that the power consumption of the HP is probably not = enough to trigger a reed relay placed next to the supply cord, so using the = 6V DC signal on pin 8 of the RS232 with a Photo MOS relay as Werner = suggested is probably the best option. Now I have to figure out where I can = buy this component in Norway. I'm rather surprised about the 13mA power drain when switched off. That was = quite unexpected. Does anyone have an explanation? I assume it does not = draw 13mA from the internal batteries when switched off and not connected = to external power? That would drain a pair of 1300mAh NiMh cells after just = over four days of inactivity! Owen --=20 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 c/o Idrettsveien 6, 3188 HORTEN, Norway ohmorgan@iname.com http://pagina.de/naomi.j Phone: +47 92053097 Fax: +47 92174526= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:50:23 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: SanDisk Power Drain? (was RE: Merging programs) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" I can now reply to this thread, having gone through my first set of Duracells since getting my SanDisk flash cards: I got about the same battery life with the SanDisk card (about 8 hours use over a 3 week period) as without, so there seems to be no excessive power drain with SanDisk PCMCIA flash cards in the 95LX. My comment was based on a post from Alejandro Paz on 3 Apr 1999, where he reported the following: >But, the most important thing here is the power comsumption : >(with the CF and turned-off) 22 mA (very rare no?) * >in idle (turned on with the CF) 48mA (is too much) >in read or write : peaks of 220 mA. However, in rereading his post, I note that he was testing a CF card, not a regular PCMCIA flash card. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Barry Ýmailto:barry@FBTC.NET¨ Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 9:49 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Merging programs > The SunDisk cards do seem to drain the > batteries when the HP is off. I used a Epson labeled SunDisk SDP10 in my 100lx and now in the 200lx I keep next to the computer to keep phone numbers and passwords. My battery consumption seems to be the same with it, without it, or with a newer card. I can't tell any difference. The 200lx it's in get's very little use so it's off most of the time and you'd expect it to be noticable if the card drew power when the machine was off. I use Nicads in it and I change them every 2 or 3 weeks. When I was using it daily I changed them every week, although they would go 2 weeks when I forgot. But not any longer. Now when I forget they go about 3.5 weeks. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:58:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: So where is PAL now? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >From: F. Kaufman Ýmailto:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨ >Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:44 PM >... >> quite a bit of HPLX-specific extensions in it, known as TIPI. Described by >> the author, Kent Peterson, as a small, elegant, extensible programming >... >Is Kent still located in the Seattle area? Met him at a few HP meetings >locally. I also remember him sponsoring a Tipi programming project >contest of some sort a number of years back. He was very enthusiastic >and a really nice guy. It looks like it to me. I reached him via e-mail at the internet address given in the TIPI 2.0a documentation from late 1994: peterson@halcyon.com. His reply included the location as Issaquah, WA USA and that's the same city used in his mailing address from that same documentation. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:52:27 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Wittkamper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Wittkamper Subject: Re: Virus Alert! NOT a hoax! Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All: I agree wholeheartedly, things that can affect the HP200 (or a host to which it talks to) is certainly more germane than what the cows are doing in Texas. John A. Wittkamper :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Padin To: Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 9:07 AM Subject: Re: Virus Alert! NOT a hoax! > Considering how much fluff gets posted, I would say that this is okay. At > least it may save someone difficulty. > > > > Besides that, I do not think that general virus warnings are > > specifically related to HP-LX and thus should not be posted here. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:04:12 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack and WinNT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Has anyone seen this problem. I have been using the connectivity pack at > work on my computer that runs WinNT. > I've used it many times. The other day I tried it and it would open up but I > could not run the filer. All other conpack apps run just fine. I tried > re-installing but it didn't help. Hi Owen. I've had this problem before and it seems to be related to the size of your NT environment space. The amount of env space remaining seems have an affect on which apps get "stuck". If you have the luxury, try going into your Systems/Properties/Environment pane and clearing out some of the system and/or user variables set there. Or maybe set some kind of bogus environment variable to a large value and start CPACK with a batch file that first sets the variable to a null value (thereby freeing up the space for the DOS session). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:55:21 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: FLUFF TEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII TEST Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:03:10 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Chris Collingwood Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Collingwood Subject: Re: FLUFF - New car? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff, (and the rest of the list) Have you got a replacement car for the one that was crunched a while back? Chris ZR5UW Jeff wrote: > > TEST > > Jeff > > -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- > -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- > -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I have no desire to receive email from advertisers or strangers. My posting to newsgroups is not an invitation to send me mail. No SPAM/UCE/UBE is ever welcome in my inbox. A proof-reading fee could be levied. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:26:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: SRAM cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Russel Brooks wrote: >How does the LX see them? As a 1.5M A: disk?? The cards can be read as a 1.5MB disk on a Win95 computer. When I reformatted one on my HP95LX, it formatted to 2,077,184 bytes! Unfortunately, the card cannot be read on the Win95 machine in that density; however, it is readable on a ThinCard TMD-500 card drive that I have hooked to the parallel port of an old Compaq 386 laptop that I own. These ThinCard drives often come up on eBay (I got mine there for $5.00). They work fine with old DOS computers, but do not work reliably on Win95 machines. Bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:19:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: WAP vs. C-HTML MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:28:00 +0000 (GMT), stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE wrote: > Franklin Eekhout wrote: > > > I tried WAP seriously for the first time this weekend and it sucks. > > Japan's answer to WAP is C-HTML. The german newspaper FAZ had > on 19-DEC-00 a very good article about it in it's technical part. > > I think it's not yet decided, which of both will become the mobile > standard. I hope for C-HTML. Hi Stefan I thought the Japanes "wap" was called "Imode" or something like that. I could ofcourse be wrong. It has happend before :-) Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:43:04 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Group Project Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Barry, Being a neophyte and casual programmer, I've always wished I could create simple EXM programs that could share and multitask with the other built-in programs. PAL or NKIT is to deep for me and very few people could answer palmtop related FORTH questions. I believe, having a hplx library of procedures (made by gifted assembly programmers) for a easy programming language like qbasic would get a lot of casual programmers like me to dabble into writing a couple of short programs. Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:41:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Hocking Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Hocking Subject: Re: FLUFF TEST Comments: To: Jeff > TEST > > Jeff Hey Jeff, What is the test for, I thought the accident didn't kill your LX? :-) Best Regards, Robert Hocking ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:53:51 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: So where is PAL now? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >It looks like it to me. I reached him via e-mail at the internet address >given in the TIPI 2.0a documentation from late 1994: peterson@halcyon.com. >His reply included the location as Issaquah, WA USA and that's the same city >used in his mailing address from that same documentation. Where can TIPI be found? Cheers, Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:42:27 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: FLUFF TEST In-Reply-To: <004201c080df$04de1720$01808080@etower366> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Robert Hocking wrote: > What is the test for, I thought the accident didn't kill your LX? :-) I had a Linux meltdown today :( Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:12:23 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Just went over 501 work units... The da-seti group statistics are available at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_70769.html And you can even click on JOIN link on that same page to join us... Enjoy... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:39:01 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: TIPI Resources Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed An article in Palmtop Paper by Kent Peterson http://www.hp-palmtop.com/PTPHTML/19/pt190029.htm An article by Robert Roney about TIPI: http://www.hp-palmtop.com/PTPHTML/19/pt19002a.htm The language instructions: http://www.hp-palmtop.com/PTPHTML/19/pt19002b.htm Sample TIPI Code: http://www.hp-palmtop.com/ptphtml/19/pt19002c.htm And finally - WHERE to find it: (I do not know if it is latest!) http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/95lx/tipi2a.zip ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:20:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm at 570 by myself - 14,600 Hours processing time! Ken (KHansen @ SETI) ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Meshar" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:12 PM Subject: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > Just went over 501 work units... The da-seti group statistics are available > at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_70769.html > > And you can even click on JOIN link on that same page to join us... Enjoy... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:38:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Ken Hansen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If you are not in a group now, you can simply join our group and add all your WUs to our group's stats... Ken Hansen wrote: > I'm at 570 by myself - 14,600 Hours processing time! > > Ken > (KHansen @ SETI) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Meshar" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:12 PM > Subject: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > > > Just went over 501 work units... The da-seti group statistics are > available > > at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_70769.html > > > > And you can even click on JOIN link on that same page to join us... > Enjoy... > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:09:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, not bad for a 200LX :-) john A Meshar wrote: > Just went over 501 work units... The da-seti group statistics are available > at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_70769.html > > And you can even click on JOIN link on that same page to join us... Enjoy... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:59:34 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Crumpton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Crumpton Organization: Arcade - The Definitive Acorn BBS Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. Hi, Owen. >Have we got any electronics gurus out there? Not a "guru", but I have sufficient electronics experience to feel able to comment. Sorry if this posting gets a bit too technical. >Another possible option may be to place a reed relay next to the 12V >supply cord for the LX so that the receiver is powered up when the >current through the LXs supply cord inreases as it switches itself on. >The question is whether the current draw of the LX is enough to flip >a reed relay. I think the phrase "next to the supply cord" implies using a bare reed *switch*, activated by magnetic field above a certain strength (applied paralel to the switch's axis). A reed relay is a reed switch plus solenoid-coil, all in a preassembled unit, and activated when the coil current exceeds a certain value. In an application like this, either could theoretically be used. I will explain both approaches, plus a another suggestion. The problem with just a reed switch is that it may be tricky to arrange. A twin cable, as presumably used on the power-cord, doesn't produce much of a magnetic field, even at high current. This is because the magnetic fields from the individual wires are equal, opposite and almost co-located, so the resultant field is small:- o X / \ / \ ---> | | | | TWIN CORE =============|===============|============ CABLE <--- | | | | \ / \ / o=out of screen X o X=into screen CIRCULAR MAG-FIELD CIRCULAR MAG-FIELD DUE TO 'UPPER' WIRE DUE TO 'LOWER' WIRE (CURRENT TO LEFT) (CURRENT TO RIGHT) So you'd have to 'split' the twin-core cable for part of it's length, and then wrap one of the wires around the reed-switch to form a "solenoid". I somehow doubt it it would be physically possible to wind it, or get the required number of turns, given such fairly-thick insulated wire. The reed-relay approach involves 'splicing' the coil into one of the wires of the twin-core power cord (NOT between them, but in 'series' with just one, to sense the current). If you don't want to tamper with existing leads, just make up a little power cord "extension", with a DC-plug and inline socket Rather than a reed-relay isolated switch for the rig, you might consider the alternative of an "opto-coupler" (combination of LED and opto-transistor in typically an 6/8-pin plastic package). You would wire it as follows:- PIN 8 ----/\/\/\---------+ +-----------"+VE" 1K8 anode| |collector RESISTOR | | CONNECT IN SERIES _|_ |/ WITH RIG POWER, LED \ / ---> | npn EXACTLY YOU WOULD (IR) --- ---> |\ transistor A REED RELAY, BUT | V *** IMPORTANT *** | | MUST ENSURE CORRECT cathode| |emitter POLARITY PIN 5 -------------------+ +-----------"-VE" \------ BOTH PARTS -----/ OF OPTOCOUPLER 1K8 will give LED current around 2mA (4V/1800). This should be sufficient with an "opto-Darlington" or high current-transfer type. Otherwise reduce resistor value to increase LED current. I'd still expect it to be less than required by the reed-relay solution. Most electronic-component catalogues should have suitable optocouplers. HTH - Mark -- ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ | Free Internet E-mail and Usenet News | | / \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \ | +44 20 8654 2212 +44 20 8655 4412/1811 | | A R C A D E | Croydon UK - Fidonet#2:254/27.0 | | The Definitive Acorn BBS | http://arcade.demon.co.uk at weekends | ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:50:23 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Connecting to the Internet in mid ocean MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Russel wrote (>): > I am curious as to the compressability of the > weatherfax and if jfax or similar may be able to > receive a fax, compress it (zip etc). The only way of receiving a weatherfax is to use a computer and shortwave = radio or a dedicated weatherfax receiver. Some of the stations do make the = charts available on the www, but connecting to the www by cell phone is = slow and costs money, and is impossible in mid ocean. Anyway, there isn't = much point in using an expensive service to get something I can have for = free. > and if this > may save some online time wether internet > connection or BBS direct or to some list member > with a spare phone line for Owen to connect to? Where would I find a list member in mid ocean? > PS Your web site says you connect with a psion?=20 > Is this true? :) Well, yes and no. I now have an Ericsson MC218, but that is just a Psion = 5mx in drag. Owen --=20 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 c/o Idrettsveien 6, 3188 HORTEN, Norway ohmorgan@iname.com http://pagina.de/naomi.j Phone: +47 92053097 Fax: +47 92174526= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:46:07 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack and WinNT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi, > Has anyone seen this problem. I have been using the connectivity pack = at > work on my computer that runs WinNT. > I've used it many times. The other day I tried it and it would open up = but I > could not run the filer. All other conpack apps run just fine. I tried > re-installing but it didn't help. It never worked for me with WinNT - neither Filer nor Merge. I think it has to do with ports being occupied by NT (my laptop runs in a company network) and not released to CPACK. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:55:54 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: RE PalmPilot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit here in France HP palmtops are virtually unknown - all doctors i encounter in my extensive visits to regional hospitals carry PalmPilots only. Pierre Pierre.VIGNACQ@turbomeca.fr, a former member of this list, left after he bought his Palmpilot and writes: "my Pilot is far superior to the HPLX" where did HP go wrong? why is PalmPilot more attractive than the HP540 range of palmtops? were they too long basking in the 100/200LX profits? Nathalie... my greatest ambition - to help unravel the secrets of the universe - is constantly being abused and frustrated by my need to pay the rent ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:57:44 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: SMMx and swet dreams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>combination of Maxdos, Morexm, Tasklist, Zoom, QuickView, and Launcher. >I'm surprised that your new combination is more stable than SC, perhaps >because it sounds like a Rube Goldberg setup (not to say it won't work. what's so special about my autoexec? spd31.exe prompt $p$g path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;c:\utils set tmp=c:\temp c:\quick\quick.com c: moreexm lxpromin maxdos.com -l pause 200 doesn't it look tame compared to Michael's sophistication: "I am using SMMx together with MoreExm to my satisfaction, but together with Maxdos. Also, within SMMx I have set up two versions of HDM, the DOS application manager. One as a normal application manager version, and one as a Maxdos version. They point to the same directory, say one as HDM pointing to A:\DM\DM.exe, and one as MAX HDM pointing to c:\maxdos.com A:\DM\DM.Exe So I hotkey to SMMx, and can choose between running my Dos apps either together with the System Manager apps, or stand alone with all available memory. As opposed to SMMx which quits the System manager when swapping, HDM + Maxdos returns nicely with minimal system overhead. In this way I manage some 20 exm apps under SMMx, and another 26 under HDM (including command.com itself ). Get's me 350 KB free memory one way, and 550 the other way" >Sounds like she's been put on an e-pedestal. i wonder what he gets out of it - swet dreams? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 23:32:36 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: RE PalmPilot Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Nathalie Bugeaud To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:17 PM Subject: RE PalmPilot >where did HP go wrong? >why is PalmPilot more attractive than the HP540 range of palmtops? >were they too long basking in the 100/200LX profits? Im a long time HP user (back to the 95lx) and have used the 100/200lx, Palm Pro/III/V and the HP 545 and tell ya the truth they all have their pluses. Palm has market penatration, and ease of use... its by far the most approachable for a new user... pick up a palm just about anywhere... its basic apps work as advertised and there are 1000s of apps available for download to do just about everything the little guy is capable. The HP 100/200lx models are more powerful in may ways and have 1000s of DOS apps and specialty apps available but its basically a hackers/tech box. I wont argue the virtues of the device as we all know them, but it is on the decline. HP 545 has alot more going for it than people give it credit for. PocketPC os is much more powerful than palm but its paid for in complexity and lack of battery life due to the processors needed to drive it. But if you can overcome the beginning and start to use the device its very pleasant... I use PocketDOS to run my old HP 100/200 apps... the color screen is nice (TFT would be better) and it syncs well with windoze apps... I can do everything i do with my palm or 100/200lx on my 545, and do it well in most cases. But... Pocket PC is still fighting an uphill battle for market share... PocketPC is still a much more complicated beast than Palm, and there are no entry level (<$200) models to draw in new users. well enough of my ranting, in short they all are useful devices, Palm wins in market share, ease of use, battery life while Pocket PC wins in raw power, high end features like multimedia, and its ability to run emulators for DOS, NES, etc. etc. so you can bring your legacy apps with you. Dan driden@stlnet.com > >Nathalie... > my greatest ambition - to help unravel the secrets of the universe - > is constantly being abused and frustrated by my need to pay the rent > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:23:47 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Group Project Comments: To: Oliver Chua In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20010118003956.006ac4fc@mindgate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Oliver Chua wrote: > Being a neophyte and casual programmer, I've always wished I could > create simple EXM programs that could share and multitask with the > other built-in programs. PAL or NKIT is to deep for me and very few > people could answer palmtop related FORTH questions. Have you tried TIPI? It may work for you (the efficiency of Forth with the friendliness of Basic). Although it doesn't do EXMs, it shouldn't be that difficult to fix (assuming Kent Peterson is willing to do any more work on TIPI). In all honesty, I tried it 4 years back when I first got my LX. I discarded it because it wasn't "low-level" enough for my taste at the time. Alan Streigel's mail prompted me to take a second look; now that I'm no longer much of a bit-banger, I kinda like it. 8-) -- - Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:54:19 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Owen, I think the voltage regulator in the HP200 draws some current when connected to 12V even when the HP is off. To measure what it uses from batteries, I connected a power supply with Amp meter to the springs in the battery case. Take care, polarity and voltage are vital for the HP. I did it some time ago and do not remember exactly how much it was, but _very_ little. Werner On 17 Jan 2001, at 19:25, Owen H. Morgan wrote: > > I'm rather surprised about the 13mA power drain when switched off. That > was quite unexpected. Does anyone have an explanation? I assume it does > not draw 13mA from the internal batteries when switched off and not > connected to external power? That would drain a pair of 1300mAh NiMh > cells after just over four days of inactivity! > Thought for the day: Bagpipes (n): an octopus wearing a kilt. -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:12:27 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Owen, I got my PhotoMos relais from RS-components in Austria. You can look at the circuit diagram here: http://194.239.190.84/toc/showpic.cmdl?pic=LargeProdPics/LF171862- 11.GIF (attention, the long line of the address is wrapped in this email.) there are several types available, see page: http://194.239.190.84/toc/showmodule.cmdl?module=5075237 You could probably use the AQV251 type from Matsushita. I used it to key a transmitter, when I made some experiments with a pocsag encoder. (it was just pressing the PTT for me...) 73! Werner OE9FWV On 17 Jan 2001, at 13:06, Owen H. Morgan wrote: > > Sounds like just the thing I need. Do you have any more details? Part > number, manufacturers name etc. Does it need any other components like > resistors or condensators etc. or is everything I need in the one > component? What did you use it for? Transmitting CW? > I Didn't Climb to the Top of the Food Chain to Be a Vegetarian -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:30:32 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Fluff Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, if anybody on the list is interested in receiving HF weather faxes, I can recommend the 32 Bit Windows Program Jvcomm32. It is also for SSTV. All you need is: a SSB-HF receiver a computer running Win9X, a sound card the program can be downloaded at: www.jvcomm32.de (demo version, shareware if you register) enjoy, 73! Werner oe9fwv On 17 Jan 2001, at 17:15, Bryan R Leipper wrote: > > At 01:28 PM 17/01/01 +0000, you wrote: > > >Owen H. Morgan wrote: > > Where can I obtain these faxes to play around with? > > The weather maps sent via HF are not your normal fax. They are TIF files > but the page size is much larger than typical office faxes and, of > course, the transmission method is a bit different (can only use 300 > baud rather than 14,400 for instance). The current US surface weather > map at > > http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/fax/QYAA00.TIF,MAP > > can give you an idea of what is being sent. > > A reader for TIFF files can be found at > > http://www.mieweb.com/alternatiff/ > > "AlternaTIFF is a free Netscape-style browser plug-in that displays most > of the common types of TIFF image files. It requires Windows > 95/98/NT/2000, and a 32-bit web browser. It is intended to work with > Netscape Navigator/Communicator 3.0 and higher, Microsoft Internet > Explorer 3.0 and higher, and Opera 3.51 and higher. It may also work > with other browsers." > > -- > Bryan > K1CD/7 > Thought for the day: Communist (n): one who has given up all hope of becoming a Capitalist. -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 03:57:28 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: More storage on less MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Introducing da woild's smallest storage device Less than da size of a stick of chewing gum. Da THUMBDRIVE, no software needed No hardware needed, except da drive. Plugs inta da USB port of PC compat desktop or laptop. woiks on W9x. 8-256 MB, 1 GB soon. Mor info at trekstor.com yor pal al............... ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:03:42 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack and WinNT In-Reply-To: <200101180444.f0I4iZb03047@pop-d.netway.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 18.01.2001, 13:02, HP Staber wrote: > It never worked for me with WinNT - neither Filer nor Merge. I think it > has to do with ports being occupied by NT (my laptop runs in a company > network) and not released to CPACK. Did you try Win2k=3F I don't get it to work, but maybe there is just a button "activate COM2 under DOS"=3F! Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:08:16 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: More storage on less > Da THUMBDRIVE, no software needed > No hardware needed, except da drive. > Plugs inta da USB port of PC compat > desktop or laptop. woiks on W9x. It needs a driver, Al, at least on the 64 MB one I looked at. That is the one failing of it... Otherwise it is very smart. br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:33:36 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan R Leipper wrote: > http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/fax/QYAA00.TIF > can give you an idea of what is being sent. I had a look at this TIF file. It is a B&W (1 bit colordepth) file. The VIEW program from BGFAX can read the file on the palmtop and states: Format: Binkley Raw Pages : 1 Resolution: Low Coding: 1D-MH but it cannot display the file and prompts with: 6 scan lines... 6 bad lines... I used IrfanView on the desktop to translate the TIF into a PCX file and then viewed it with LXPIC on the palmtop. You don't loose a single bit of information by translating it to PCX, but you gain tremendous view speed. As Werner stated, the weatherfax software can save the fax in various picture formats. Just save as PCX or GIF or BMP... No need for SVGA; you only get a bigger screen, but not more information, because the fax is only in B&W which the palmtop can display perfectly. BTW: Don't ask me to add TIF or FAX capability to LXPIC. I won't do it, because TIF is terrible and both, FAX and TIF are only coverings for all kind of standard and non-standard compressions. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:33:37 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: Re: S35i or 6210 ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Owen H. Morgan wrote: > ... but I have the Ericsson SH888. It works very well with my > MC218 EPOC palmtop via infrared. AFAIK the SH888 also works with WWW/LX through IrDA > Sadly, the SH888 cannot be used via cable. The reason for > this is that some idiot at Ericsson decided that the phone > should talk IrDA protocol over the cable, and as far as I > know, only WindoZzze 95 and NT are capable of this. If I remember right, WWW/LX can also talk IrDA over cables. But I cannot remember how to set it up. Was it Port=3D-2 ? Avi, do you have the answer? Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:14:32 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: "John A. Evans - N0HJ" In-Reply-To: <3A665E77.1F76D234@codenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed NONE of the SETI stuff runs on the 200?LX! Sorry if you were misled to think so. All my seti clients now run on a Win98 750MHz machine with lots of RAM. At 1/17/01 -0700, you wrote: >Wow, not bad for a 200LX :-) > >john > >A Meshar wrote: > > > Just went over 501 work units... The da-seti group statistics are available > > at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_70769.html > > > > And you can even click on JOIN link on that same page to join us... > Enjoy... > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:19:14 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If it did, you 200LX would still be working on the first work unit! Bryan awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM wrote: > > NONE of the SETI stuff runs on the 200?LX! Sorry if you were misled to > think so. All my seti clients now run on a Win98 750MHz machine with lots > of RAM. > > At 1/17/01 -0700, you wrote: > >Wow, not bad for a 200LX :-) > > > >john > > > >A Meshar wrote: > > > > > Just went over 501 work units... The da-seti group statistics are available > > > at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_70769.html > > > > > > And you can even click on JOIN link on that same page to join us... > > Enjoy... > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:47:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: RE PalmPilot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > here in France HP palmtops are virtually unknown - all doctors i encounter > in my extensive visits to regional hospitals carry PalmPilots only. Figures. Prescriptions written by doctors always looked like Grafitti long before the Palm started using it. > Pierre Pierre.VIGNACQ@turbomeca.fr, a former member of this list, left after > he bought his Palmpilot and writes: "my Pilot is far superior to the HPLX" Only goes to show that "mine is bigger than yours" is a universal concept. > where did HP go wrong? > why is PalmPilot more attractive than the HP540 range of palmtops? > were they too long basking in the 100/200LX profits? Palm has been doing this for a long time, even before the company existed. Jeff Hawkins, the Palm creator, started his vision of a pen-operated data appliance with a Windows notebook (Grid Convertible) and then moved to smaller platforms and different OSs (Zoomer, then Pilot), refining the concept each time trying to find a form factor and price that would make for a "killer" portable with wide appeal. He decided long ago that $300 was a price ceiling of sorts, and you could see where all the HPCs have long since passed that mark ... maybe a factor in the Pilot's market share. So Pilot rides on a man's vision of making something genuinely useful, whereas HPCs ride on corporate visions of profits and synergies (ie, HPCs will develop along a line of "how it fits into the corporate IT infrastructure"). Both are propelled by dynamics albeit of a different nature. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:03:55 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Bryan Biggers In-Reply-To: <3A66FB62.8A3AF3BA@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/18/01 -0600, you wrote: >If it did, you 200LX would still be working on the first work >unit! Yes, exactly. I heard from someone that even a Toshiba Libretto 50 took about two weeks to process a WU. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:29:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: RE PalmPilot Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > where did HP go wrong? > why is PalmPilot more attractive than the HP540 range of palmtops? > were they too long basking in the 100/200LX profits? Correct me if I'm wrong....but wasn't the palm series out for years before the 540 was introduced? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:48:52 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Virus Alert! NOT a hoax! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > If you are a mail.com user and have received > this file, please just delete it from your system > without running it! On the other hand, if you're > dumb enough to run executables you receive > from strangers without virus checking them, > you deserve what you get... For years, even though I expose myself more than most people, I've never had a virus. When the email viruses started I went ahead and installed Norton Antivirus anyway. Still, for a long time, no problems. Then beginning about 2 or 3 months ago I started getting them. I haven't counted but I'd say I've received 8 or 10 email viruses in the past couple of months. Norton caught them all so there was no problem. However, about the time all this started, I did get hit by a virus. Probably not an email one. I had the computer on for about 2 days without rebooting (unusual) and when I did reboot, Norton found the virus in my boot sector. I have it set so that it scans at boot and then just watches email. But it was too late. By the time Windows loaded, C: was pretty scrambled. I had to re-format. Fortunately I use Ghost to restore my system and most things were backed up so all I really lost was some time and some email since my last backup. It seems to be getting serious. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:10:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Libretto 50, left alone, will take less than 14 days to calculate one WU. My first SETI "box" was a P/75 w/no cache, 32 Meg RAM running Win95 - same stats as the Libretto, and it took a long time, but less than a week certainly. Maybe 5 days, but my recollections an this are hazy... My PII/333 SMP box now happily chugs along on one, or sometimes two, WUs at a time quite nicely (current WU @ 62% after 14 hours). Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Meshar" To: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:03 AM Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > At 1/18/01 -0600, you wrote: > >If it did, you 200LX would still be working on the first work > >unit! > > Yes, exactly. I heard from someone that even a Toshiba Libretto 50 took > about two weeks to process a WU. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:24:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: SMMx and swet dreams Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > what's so special about my autoexec? > doesn't it look tame compared to Michael's sophistication: I was just being facetious. My autoexec is bigger than yours anyway ... it's just that I don't use it to set up task-swapping (usually). My LX tasks don't require the added complexity unless I'm taking classes and then I may use a setup like yours for a time. Otherwise, it's not worth the added risk (to me). > >Sounds like she's been put on an e-pedestal. > > i wonder what he gets out of it - swet dreams? A swet fan makes the light burn all the brighter. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:25:30 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Being a neophyte and casual programmer, > I've always wished I could create simple > EXM programs that could share and multitask > with the other built-in programs. PAL or NKIT > is to deep for me and very few people could answer > palmtop related FORTH questions. I believe, > having a hplx library of procedures (made by gifted > assembly programmers) for a easy programming > language like qbasic would get a lot of casual > programmers like me to dabble into writing a couple > of short programs. Someone mentioned SwiftBasic, which was a basic for use in the system manager on the 95lx. I agree that something like that would be pretty useful. I'm not sure it would be a good group project, though. I think the idea is to find something that everyone can contribute to, not something for a few professional programmers. I think I still have some public domain C source code for a small basic interpreter. I'll take a look and see if it's easily adaptable to an exm. My guess is that it won't be, but it can't hurt to look. I'm retired and I'm not looking for big projects, but if it's fairly simple, it might be worth doing. If you do want to write exm programs, learn c. If you don't already know it. I think you need a bit of skill at c but it looked like with NKIT you don't really have to be an expert. But I just took a quick look so I could be wrong. I'm looking over Pal now. I've never used it before. I'm going to do some simple sample stuff to get a feel for it. But from what I've seen so far, it's just what it tries to be. A library of routines designed for the casual c programmer. If you know any c at all, I wouldn't let Pal intimidate you. There's a lot of stuff there but if you take it a little at a time it shouldn't be hard to learn at all. Again, I'm just starting with it so I might be wrong. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:31:36 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Ken Hansen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What do you get in return for running the work units on your system? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Hansen To: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > > A Libretto 50, left alone, will take less than 14 days to calculate one WU. > My first SETI "box" was a P/75 w/no cache, 32 Meg RAM running Win95 - same > stats as the Libretto, and it took a long time, but less than a week > certainly. Maybe 5 days, but my recollections an this are hazy... > > My PII/333 SMP box now happily chugs along on one, or sometimes two, WUs at > a time quite nicely (current WU @ 62% after 14 hours). > > Ken > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A Meshar" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:03 AM > Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > > > > At 1/18/01 -0600, you wrote: > > >If it did, you 200LX would still be working on the first work > > >unit! > > > > Yes, exactly. I heard from someone that even a Toshiba Libretto 50 took > > about two weeks to process a WU. > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:30:36 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jorgen@PALMTOP.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Re: Unresponsive keys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there! During all my years with 200LX, I have experienced that some keys doesn't respond properly to my fingers 'dancing over the keyboard'. Then I payed attention to those keys and every time I had to use a 'problem key' I pressed extra hard. Sometimes I even kind of 'massage the key' and after a while, the problem disappeared! So I think you have point there- usage might solve this problem! :-) Living in a country with a very high humidity (Singapore), I have seen = how connectors such as the power connector, on the 200LX can get a heavy corrosion- so I have always assumed that this is what happens when I see the problem- so by 'massaging' they key- it became ok again- except in one case: it was when we (a great team) worked on converting the HP 200/100LX Developer's Guide to HTML format for Thaddeus. Then I did all my part of the work on my palmtop and I typed like 'GILA' (CRAZY in Malay)!!! So the keyboard gave up here and there. But Thaddeus sent me a new keyboard (THANKS Hal!), which I changed myself. But as Daniel mentioned- that type of 200LX work requires some knowledge about the palmtop's hardware. Regards, Jorgen Wallgren > Hi, thanks Daniel for the suggestion. I did not try your method as the > problem has disappeared. This was a used Hp200LX. Maybe my constant = daily > usage of it has exercised the unit, or, I had accidentally pressed > something & contacts are ok again. > > What is the "next step"? opening up the HP200LX ? Always wondering how = to > do that. > > Kheehua ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:32:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: OT: Follow-up on Mitsubishi T250 Cellphone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just an FYI for those interested, after investigating the phone some more, I found that Mitsubishi has built-in a "real" modem that can be connected to via a 9 pin serial connector (cable sold seperately, I think it is $70). With this phone I can make modem "calls" that will use up my program minutes. Or, I can access WAP web sites *without* using program minutes (on a 9 line display). The free PocketNet service allows unlimited access to any WAP/WML web site. This looks like a good little phone, and I will report further once it arrives. Phone cost $149 at www.attws.com - see there for further information. Ken ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:29:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:25:25 +0100, Owen H. Morgan wrote: Owen > Now I have to figure out where I can buy this component in Norway. Send me a mail with the exact component you need and I can probably get it for you for free. Let me know. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:14:00 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <000601c08163$c0b7f2c0$459cc0d8@tvs> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/18/01 -0600, you wrote: >What do you get in return for running the work units on your system? Why should you get anything back? I donate the cpu cycles. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:45:12 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If they find any aliens, you get a small piece of a Nobel Prize, 10% of any alien recipes found, plus you can appear on Larry King as many times as you like. Bryan Tom Salwasser wrote: > > What do you get in return for running the work units on your system? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken Hansen > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > > > > > A Libretto 50, left alone, will take less than 14 days to calculate one > WU. > > My first SETI "box" was a P/75 w/no cache, 32 Meg RAM running Win95 - same > > stats as the Libretto, and it took a long time, but less than a week > > certainly. Maybe 5 days, but my recollections an this are hazy... > > > > My PII/333 SMP box now happily chugs along on one, or sometimes two, WUs > at > > a time quite nicely (current WU @ 62% after 14 hours). > > > > Ken > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "A Meshar" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 10:03 AM > > Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > > > > > > > At 1/18/01 -0600, you wrote: > > > >If it did, you 200LX would still be working on the first work > > > >unit! > > > > > > Yes, exactly. I heard from someone that even a Toshiba Libretto 50 took > > > about two weeks to process a WU. > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:59:53 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jorgen@PALMTOP.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOW! I am way behind! Have to power up a couple of additional PC's working on it! Jorgen > I'm at 570 by myself - 14,600 Hours processing time! . . . > > Just went over 501 work units... The da-seti group statistics are > available > > at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_70769.html > > > > And you can even click on JOIN link on that same page to join us... > Enjoy... > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:59:49 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jorgen@PALMTOP.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Re: Group Project Comments: To: Oliver Chua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Oliver! > Being a neophyte and casual programmer, I've always wished I could = create > simple EXM programs that could share and multitask with the other = built-in > programs. PAL or NKIT is to deep for me and very few people could = answer > palmtop related FORTH questions. I believe, having a hplx library of > procedures (made by gifted assembly programmers) for a easy programming > language like qbasic would get a lot of casual programmers like me to > dabble into writing a couple of short programs. I would not even want to call myself a casual programmer- I am more like = a 'just have to do it!' programmer. :-) I once looked at the HP EXM development kit for Microsoft C (something...)- but couldn't understan= d anything what it was all about! :-( With my background (mechanical engineer with some basic understanding of BASIC programming- since it was included in my education), I almost gave up after my first look at the HP EXM development kit. But then I looked at PAL and C programming, and by reading through many examples of source code- I got an basic idea how C programming worked and how PAL assisted the standard C code in order to create the 100/200LX Palmtop specific functions and graphics. Then I created a small program which could read my battery level and enable/dissable light sleep. That was not easy, but I did it. :-) Then I found the Japanese NKIT, where all the HP EXM programming files and setup was very much simplified! So I spent some time in reading the source code which was included in the NKIT package. The first thing to do was to install Turbo C 2.0 and NKIT and then try to compile the included source code. After some testing, I was able to do it. Then I took the next step and created BASIC.C which compiled will give you BASIC.EXM. It doesn't do much other that that it worked! :-) Excited about tha fact that I could do this simple code, I thought that as long as I do not set up any barriers for myself- thinking that this is toooo difficult and I can't do it! I told myself that instead of looking at the whole problem, take one small problem at the the time and solve it! So when I realized that I would like to have a good alarm clock which could guaranteed wake me up in the morning, and such program was not available- I wrote HP Alarm Clock! Frankly speaking, until today I am still not sure how in h_ll I could do it- since I still do not know how many things is working in C programming. But the secret was to take it step by step and read lots of useful source code and basically do trial and error testing! Several great programmers help me when I was stucked- I don't want to mention any names, since then THEY might get busy with supporting new programmers and have no time to do it... But you know who you are if you are still on this list- THANKS! So what I would like to say with this long story is that you should not give up NKIT if you want to create EXM programs!!! Give it a try and read source code- and a search on SUPER (www.palmtop.net) by using my name for example, will give you some source code I created. But please feel free to contact me if you want some more code as examples. For you C programmers out there, EXM programming by using NKIT should be an easy task- as long as you get the basics! :-) Looking forward to your EXM programming questions and NEW EXM programs! But please send it directly to my private address (wallgren@singnet.com.sg) since that's a good way to get my attention (getting about 200 mails a day- work & private!). Hope my story helps! :-) Regards, Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:00:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are some sites now that enter you into a lottery to win money or earn points towards gifts. > At 1/18/01 -0600, you wrote: > >What do you get in return for running the work units on your system? > > Why should you get anything back? I donate the cpu cycles. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:11:15 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No need to bite my head off. I didn't know it was a charity. Are you the new Sesame Street character Avi the Grouch?! d;-) I'm going to check this out, it sounds interesting. Tom Salwasser ----- Original Message ----- From: A Meshar To: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:14 AM Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > > At 1/18/01 -0600, you wrote: > >What do you get in return for running the work units on your system? > > Why should you get anything back? I donate the cpu cycles. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:55:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think you also get first right of refusal to fly in the saucer to the home planet. But first, you have to decipher the cook book they leave behind. I think it's PGP encoded.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Biggers" To: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:45 PM Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > If they find any aliens, you get a small piece of a Nobel Prize, > 10% of any alien recipes found, plus you can appear on Larry King > as many times as you like. Bryan > > > Tom Salwasser wrote: > > > > What do you get in return for running the work units on your system? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:35:20 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <000a01c08171$acebdc80$3f9fc0d8@tvs> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sheesh!!! You _are_ waaay a sensitive and touchy one! I asked why you should get anything back. It was a simple question. Not sure why you decide to frame it as biting your head off and call me names, but thanks anyway... I guess! If you decide to know about SETI, then you can read up at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:47:53 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: jorgen@PALMTOP.NET In-Reply-To: <200101181759.f0IHxqL28021@smtp24.singnet.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed got to http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_70769.html and click on join to join the da-seti group. It is volunteer, you get nothing except a rare email from me , and if you discover a life "out there" (certainly none here!) you may get a handshake (from me!) So lower your hopes for gain and fame, just enjoy it. At 1/19/01 +0800, you wrote: >WOW! I am way behind! Have to power up a couple of additional PC's >working on it! > >Jorgen > > > I'm at 570 by myself - 14,600 Hours processing time! >. >. >. > > > Just went over 501 work units... The da-seti group statistics are > > available > > > at http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_70769.html > > > > > > And you can even click on JOIN link on that same page to join us... > > Enjoy... > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:49:47 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Ed Padin In-Reply-To: <025201c08178$7d3cf760$250110ac@openreach.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Wow! you mean for discovering a SETI item? Stan who was in da-seti left for a nother group and I think that group gives some cash prize if you discover something... I did not know SETI has that too... At 1/18/01 -0500, you wrote: >There are some sites now that enter you into a lottery to win money or earn >points towards gifts. > > > > At 1/18/01 -0600, you wrote: > > >What do you get in return for running the work units on your system? > > > > Why should you get anything back? I donate the cpu cycles. > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 10:42:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Bryan Biggers In-Reply-To: <3A672BA8.E1C87899@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/18/01 -0600, you wrote: >If they find any aliens, you get a small piece of a Nobel Prize, >10% of any alien recipes found, plus you can appear on Larry King >as many times as you like. Bryan I wish! :-> If I get on Larry King I''l tell him I pursued it despite being called a Grouch! :-) You get nothing but perhaps a tiny bit of glory (5-10 minutes of fame , jorgen@PALMTOP.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > got to http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_70769.html = and > click on join to join the da-seti group. It is volunteer, you get = nothing > except a rare email from me , and if you discover a life "out there" > (certainly none here!) you may get a handshake (from me!) So lower = your > hopes for gain and fame, just enjoy it. Sounds good to me, I will join your group! :-) I think it's important that we have a SETI search! But I don't think we will ever hear anything! Not becuase of we are alone- there are deffinatel= y plenty of planets in universe which has some kind of life forms!!! But = the fact is that once a life form becomes intelligent enough to create a wireless RF network, this life form is dominant and can thrive without the 'drawbacks' of the 'natural selection procedure'. Which means that sooner or later, this life form will destroy the habitat and themselves- since life is a very basic circle of 'give and take'. Every time you take- if you take 2 units and give back 1 unit (best case). If a total of 10 units exists- you are soon running out of units! :-) So with other words- once the intelligence is there, it's stupid enough to kill everything! It's very difficult to say exact how long a "intelligent" culture can survive- Guglielmo Marconi got the first serious radio signals to "flow out everywhere" in the year of 1901. So with the speed we now destroy the nature and the natural balance- let's say that our civilization in a best case scenario can survive for another 1,000 years (unless we can solve the space//time problem and move to another planet which we can also rape!). So with this short lifespan of an "intelligent radio wave creating" life form, it's highly unlikely that 2 lifeforms will be able to match, with the distances we are talking about, so one get a signal from another before it is going down the drain... But there is always a chance and that what we have to look after! :-) Talking about going down the drain and destroy our civilization- Chinese New Year is around the corner and millions of sharks have been killed for this years shark fin soups- disgusting!!! PLEASE OBSERVE that this sentence was not written in order to in any way discriminate our Chinese population- NOT AT ALL! It was written just because this celebration is next week! Every single race and culture on this earth are contributing heavily to the destruction of our civilization!. This was only one of many examples I can give. So Gong Xi Fa Choy!!! But please keep in mind that when the Buying Stops- Killing Can Too!!! Living in Singapore, I will celebrate this New Year with my Chinese friends (the year of the snake) but without the soup! :-) Have fun! Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:31:06 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: TIPI Resources MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Avi wrote: >And finally - WHERE to find it: (I do not know if it is latest!) > >http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/95lx/tipi2a.zip ...but guess what?....'File not found'. Anyone know where TIPI is? Tried a few other repositories, but no luck Cheers, Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:43:37 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Group project? Earth size computer that fits in your pocket In-Reply-To: <200101182020.f0IKKIL37981@smtp24.singnet.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Guys Is there any interest in forming an LX distributed computer? As has been stated here before there are some contributing to SETI search on their Desktops, Some are aware of www.entropia.com and some are on www.distributed.net. All these distributed computing networks wont work on the LX in their present form as far as I know. I think it would be rather cool to have a part of an earth size computer that fits in your pocket. :) Practicality may be an issue because of battery drain and speed limitations yet I sense it would be a project to unite the group. www.entropia.com has a section for C software integration. C works on the LX right? Perhaps a distributed prog that only runs whilst the LX is charging/on AC adapter or set to run so many hours or till battery level x was reached would be possible? I wonder if the palmpilot community could match us? LOL Any comments?, thoughts? Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:50:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What you fail to consider is that life my create artificial intelligences. These intelligences will probably not inherit the same darwinian behavior that 'natural' intelligences have. check out this classic on human behavior:--> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1567311075/qid=979850765/sr=2-3/ref=s c_b_3/107-3287555-6526102 even better:--> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0385333870/qid=979850966/sr=1-1/ref=s c_b_1/107-3287555-6526102 > got to http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_70769.html and > click on join to join the da-seti group. It is volunteer, you get nothing > except a rare email from me , and if you discover a life "out there" > (certainly none here!) you may get a handshake (from me!) So lower your > hopes for gain and fame, just enjoy it. Sounds good to me, I will join your group! :-) I think it's important that we have a SETI search! But I don't think we will ever hear anything! Not becuase of we are alone- there are deffinately plenty of planets in universe which has some kind of life forms!!! But the fact is that once a life form becomes intelligent enough to create a wireless RF network, this life form is dominant and can thrive without the 'drawbacks' of the 'natural selection procedure'. Which means that snipt ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:51:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: TIPI Resources MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Let me know if it can't be found. I may have a downloaded copy somehwere. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Whitmarsh" To: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:31 PM Subject: Re: TIPI Resources > Avi wrote: > > >And finally - WHERE to find it: (I do not know if it is latest!) > > > >http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/95lx/tipi2a.zip > > ...but guess what?....'File not found'. Anyone know where TIPI is? > Tried a few other repositories, but no luck > > Cheers, Roger > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:04:48 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack and WinNT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > It never worked for me with WinNT - neither Filer nor Merge. I think = it > > has to do with ports being occupied by NT (my laptop runs in a = company > > network) and not released to CPACK. > > Did you try Win2k? I don't get it to work, but maybe there is just a > button "activate COM2 under DOS"?! I'm not exactly enthusiastc about Windows, so I have not stumbled into Win2K. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:17:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:10:59 -0500, Ken Hansen wrote: > A Libretto 50, left alone, will take less than 14 days to calculate one WU. > My first SETI "box" was a P/75 w/no cache, 32 Meg RAM running Win95 - same > stats as the Libretto, and it took a long time, but less than a week > certainly. Maybe 5 days, but my recollections an this are hazy... > > My PII/333 SMP box now happily chugs along on one, or sometimes two, WUs at > a time quite nicely (current WU @ 62% after 14 hours). Strange. I upgraded from v1.0x to v3.03 of the SetiHomeClient. And now wu take about 60 hours. With v1.0x it took 20 hours.. Anyone else seen this behaviour? Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:31:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Martin Bergvill wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:10:59 -0500, Ken Hansen wrote: > > > My PII/333 SMP box now happily chugs along on one, or sometimes two, WUs at > > a time quite nicely (current WU @ 62% after 14 hours). > > Strange. I upgraded from v1.0x to v3.03 of the SetiHomeClient. And now > wu take about 60 hours. With v1.0x it took 20 hours.. > > Anyone else seen this behaviour? There is information about this on the Setiathome site. The later clients are doing more "science", looking at the data in more detail, thus, more calculations. Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:24:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gregory Popovitch Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gregory Popovitch Subject: WANT: Looking for Lotus Agenda manuals MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0816B.27A2D340" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0816B.27A2D340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I'm looking for Lotus Agenda 2.0 manuals or books, and I am prepared to pay for them :-). 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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0816B.27A2D340-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:42:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: TIPI Resources Comments: To: Roger Whitmarsh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > From: Roger Whitmarsh Ýmailto:lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM¨ > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:31 PM > ...but guess what?....'File not found'. Anyone know where TIPI is? It's also available here: http://www.striegels.com/alan/HPLX/tipi2a.zip ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:53:06 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats In-Reply-To: <3A66FB62.8A3AF3BA@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:19:14 -0600 Bryan Biggers a =E9crit: > If it did, you 200LX would still be working on the first work > unit! > Bryan And what about a 200LXs cluster ? Remember the old time when, in our user group, we make clusters of HP-71, connected by HP-IL... The idea to split a big task, making them work together came to us, but we never agreed about the task ! =20 Jacques. --=20 The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:53:08 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats In-Reply-To: <029301c08180$3ea9db50$250110ac@openreach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:55:37 -0500 Ed Padin a =E9crit: > I think you also get first right of refusal to fly in the saucer to the h= ome > planet. But first, you have to decipher the cook book they leave behind. = I > think it's PGP encoded.... >=20 What cook book ? This one ? "Gb Freir Zna" No, I don't think it's PGP... Perhaps Rot13....=20 Jacques. --=20 The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:00:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Carole Kilpatrick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Carole Kilpatrick Organization: Oracle Corporation Subject: HP200LX WON'T TURN ON MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------547D8D94E487C28512AA297F" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------547D8D94E487C28512AA297F Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------6E51FFDCFB6F04092B12FF49" --------------6E51FFDCFB6F04092B12FF49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings: While my HP was working at the office approximately twenty (20) minutes ago, when I came home, installed the adapter and attempted to turn the machine on, nothing happens! Any ideas? Carole --------------6E51FFDCFB6F04092B12FF49 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings:

While my HP was working at the office approximately twenty (20) minutes ago, when I came home, installed the adapter and attempted to turn the machine on, nothing happens!

Any ideas?

Carole --------------6E51FFDCFB6F04092B12FF49-- --------------547D8D94E487C28512AA297F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="Carole.Kilpatrick.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Carole Kilpatrick Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Carole.Kilpatrick.vcf" begin:vcard n:Kilpatrick;Carole tel;cell:248.760.4401 tel;fax:248.816.8270 tel;work:248.614.5117 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 email;internet:Carole.Kilpatrick@oracle.com title:Install Base Sales Consultant adr;quoted-printable:;;Oracle Corporation=0D=0A3290 West Big Beaver Road=0D=0ASuite 300;Troy;Michigan;48084;USA x-mozilla-cpt:;2272 fn:Carole Kilpatrick end:vcard --------------547D8D94E487C28512AA297F-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:17:54 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jorgen@PALMTOP.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, but that sounds like you have seen too many episodes of Star = Treek. :-) Before a civilization has even reached the state where they are able to create artificial intelligence- WHICH can "move around freely" and "give birth" to a new little robot- the civilization is probably long = time gone and another lifeform is already moving forward to be the 'Master of = the planet'. I wouldn't say that it's impossible that a planet could have very intelligent creatures for a time- long enought for developing = artificial intelligence, which know how to 'reproduce'. But you forgot an important detail- even if, let's say a robot, community took over- "they" will also have their needs. "They" would need energy, material and would deffinately have a survival program in the circuits- so in the end you will see the same result:=3D> an end of the "robot civilization"! It doesn't matter what an "intelligent life form" is made of- as long as it is "intelligent" and becomes Dominant- it will destroy itself- unless they can move on to another planet and start all over again- by "raping" the new planet. The "darwinian behavior" has nothing to do with what kind of life and what it's made of- which exist on any = planet in any part of universe. In my opinion- (simply said) it's kind of a = "universal behaviour law"! :-) Maybe it could work in a society with Borgs (I think it was the name of the Startrek guys which all have the same thinking..? ). But then again- if you have a "Borg society", it will never develop and therefore not be able to handle new situations- and we know how that ends =3D> end of yet another civilization!!!! :-) Jorgen P.S. People think that the birth of life and intelligence is complicated and can only be found on our world. But it's very simple and therefore it exist on more planets than we can count to. :-) > What you fail to consider is that life my create artificial intelligences. > These intelligences will probably not inherit the same darwinian behavior that 'natural' intelligences have. > > check out this classic on human behavior:--> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1567311075/qid=3D979850765/sr=3D2-3= /ref=3Ds > c_b_3/107-3287555-6526102 > > even better:--> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0385333870/qid=3D979850966/sr=3D1-1= /r ef=3Ds > c_b_1/107-3287555-6526102 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:22:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Probably "100 Tasty and Economical Ways to Prepare Humans" by Zargnod Feberrantz. Bryan Jacques Belin wrote: > > Le Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:55:37 -0500 > Ed Padin a icrit: > > > I think you also get first right of refusal to fly in the saucer to the home > > planet. But first, you have to decipher the cook book they leave behind. I > > think it's PGP encoded.... > > > > What cook book ? This one ? > > "Gb Freir Zna" > > No, I don't think it's PGP... Perhaps Rot13.... > > > > Jacques. > -- > The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. > "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... > --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:34:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: HP200LX WON'T TURN ON Comments: To: Carole Kilpatrick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02F1_01C08174.E7BFCCB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02F1_01C08174.E7BFCCB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sounds like it crashed. you probably have to press shift-ctrl-on. This = will reboot the lx. This is why I never plug my LX into the wall any = more. many on the list disagree but I think that plugging the lx into AC = and especially charging batteries in the unit will limit the lifespan. = I below 2 LXs, one by charging and the other by leaving it plugged in at = my desk (yes, I made sure that charging was turned off). In both cases, = it seems to get a little warm. Electronic items tend to wear out quicker = when warm. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Carole Kilpatrick=20 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu=20 Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 5:00 PM Subject: HP200LX WON'T TURN ON Greetings:=20 While my HP was working at the office approximately twenty (20) = minutes ago, when I came home, installed the adapter and attempted to = turn the machine on, nothing happens!=20 Any ideas?=20 Carole=20 ------=_NextPart_000_02F1_01C08174.E7BFCCB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

sounds like it crashed. you probably = have=20 to press shift-ctrl-on. This will reboot the lx. This is why I = never plug=20 my LX into the wall any more. many on the list disagree but I think that = plugging the lx into AC  and especially charging batteries in the = unit will=20 limit the lifespan. I below 2 LXs, one by charging and the other by = leaving it=20 plugged in at my desk (yes, I made sure that charging was turned off). = In both=20 cases, it seems to get a little warm. Electronic items tend to wear out = quicker=20 when warm.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Carole Kilpatrick =
Sent: Thursday, January 18, = 2001 5:00=20 PM
Subject: HP200LX WON'T TURN = ON

Greetings:=20

While my HP was working at the office approximately twenty (20) = minutes=20 ago, when I came home, installed the adapter and attempted to turn the = machine=20 on, nothing happens!=20

Any ideas?=20

Carole

------=_NextPart_000_02F1_01C08174.E7BFCCB0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:39:29 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats In-Reply-To: <3A676C9E.CAB1895@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:22:22 -0600 Bryan Biggers a =E9crit: > Probably "100 Tasty and Economical Ways to Prepare Humans" by > Zargnod Feberrantz. Don't know this one... Who is the publisher ? Uny Tbyqfgrva ? Jacques. --=20 The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:40:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Your assumption is that intelligent beings cannot overcome their natural drives. Many times, while riding the NYC subway, I find myself having the urge to choke the sh*t out of some a$$hole that bumps in to me. I resist the urge because my conscious mind knows it would be more detrimental to me in the long run. It's the same thing that keeps me from fulfilling reproductive urges and cheating on my wife.... :-/ uh, ok. Never mind. You're right ;¬> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorgen Wallgren" To: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Sorry, but that sounds like you have seen too many episodes of Star Treek. :-) Before a civilization has even reached the state where they are able to create artificial intelligence- WHICH can "move around freely" and "give birth" to a new little robot- the civilization is probably long time gone and another lifeform is already moving forward to be the 'Master of the planet'. I wouldn't say that it's impossible that a planet could have very intelligent creatures for a time- long enought for developing artificial intelligence, which know how to 'reproduce'. But you forgot an important detail- even if, let's say a robot, community took over- "they" will also have their needs. "They" would need energy, material and would deffinately have a survival program in the circuits- so in the end you will see the same result:=> an end of the "robot civilization"! It doesn't matter what an "intelligent life form" is made of- as long as it is "intelligent" and becomes Dominant- it will destroy itself- unless they can move on to another planet and start all over again- by "raping" the new planet. The "darwinian behavior" has nothing to do with what kind of life and what it's made of- which exist on any planet in any part of universe. In my opinion- (simply said) it's kind of a "universal behaviour law"! :-) Maybe it could work in a society with Borgs (I think it was the name of the Startrek guys which all have the same thinking..? ). But then again- if you have a "Borg society", it will never develop and therefore not be able to handle new situations- and we know how that ends => end of yet another civilization!!!! :-) Jorgen P.S. People think that the birth of life and intelligence is complicated and can only be found on our world. But it's very simple and therefore it exist on more planets than we can count to. :-) > What you fail to consider is that life my create artificial intelligences. > These intelligences will probably not inherit the same darwinian behavior that 'natural' intelligences have. > > check out this classic on human behavior:--> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1567311075/qid=979850765/sr=2-3/ref=s > c_b_3/107-3287555-6526102 > > even better:--> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0385333870/qid=979850966/sr=1-1/r ef=s > c_b_1/107-3287555-6526102 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:41:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: TIPI Resources Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Roger Whitmarsh wrote: > Avi wrote: > >And finally - WHERE to find it: (I do not know if it is latest!) > > > >http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/95lx/tipi2a.zip > ...but guess what?....'File not found'. Anyone know where TIPI is? > Tried a few other repositories, but no luck > Cheers, Roger I found it today on S.U.P.E.R. (via Google.com) at S.U.P.E.R. - HP95LX Section http://www.palmtop.net/Programming.html Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:52:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jorgen Wallgren wrote: > Sounds good to me, I will join your group! :-) > I think it's important that we have a SETI search! But I don't think we > will ever hear anything! Not becuase of we are alone- there are deffinatel= > y > plenty of planets in universe which has some kind of life forms!!! But = > the > fact is that once a life form becomes intelligent enough to create a > wireless RF network, this life form is dominant and can thrive without > the 'drawbacks' of the 'natural selection procedure'. Which means that > sooner or later, this life form will destroy the habitat and > themselves- since life is a very basic circle of 'give and take'. Every In the current "Astronomy" magazine, it's pointed out that the current searches could not see the Earth from Epsilon Eridani, one of the closer Sun-like stars. If we do see something, they will be beaming a _lot_ of power our way. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:00:31 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: HP200LX WON'T TURN ON In-Reply-To: <3A676789.7CC40D00@oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:00:41 -0500 Carole Kilpatrick a =E9crit: > Greetings: >=20 > While my HP was working at the office approximately twenty (20) minutes > ago, when I came home, installed the adapter and attempted to turn the > machine on, nothing happens! Are you sure you weren't using Lotus and have not accidentaly pushed the F10 key (Plot) when you have shut-of the LX ? This happened to me some times.... Jacques. --=20 The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:04:41 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: TIPI Resources MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Stephane wrote: >I found it today on S.U.P.E.R. (via Google.com) >at S.U.P.E.R. - HP95LX Section > >http://www.palmtop.net/Programming.html Wow !! I didn't even know there was an HP95LX section. Thanks Steve Cheers, Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:14:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I think you also get first right of refusal to fly in the saucer to the home > planet. But first, you have to decipher the cook book they leave behind. I > think it's PGP encoded.... > Are you saying that "To Serve Man" is a COOK book!?! Run for your lives!!! Bruce (whereabouts unknown) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:32:45 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: RE PalmPilot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT on 17 Jan 2001, at 20:55, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote about "RE PalmPilot": > > here in France HP palmtops are virtually unknown - all doctors i > encounter in my extensive visits to regional hospitals carry PalmPilots > only. Pierre Pierre.VIGNACQ@turbomeca.fr, a former member of this list, > left after he bought his Palmpilot and writes: "my Pilot is far superior > to the HPLX" > in my hospital there are quite a number of Psions around. No single Palmpilot afaik. And I am the only one with a HP/LX. Most of my collegues would be a little stressed with the HP I think because they ususally have very little basic knowledge of DOS. But I can do more than they can with the modern machines and they look somehow impressed when they see it :-) I run our patient software (which is still a Dos program) on the netware network on the palmtop, can search the 14.000 ICD10 diagnoses on my palmtop, print via IR to the Laserjet of our secretary, etc... in my opinion the palmpilot would not serve me much more than a address book and a calender in my work. Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:32:45 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi all, on 18 Jan 2001, at 13:33, stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE wrote about "Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with": > > As Werner stated, the weatherfax software can save the fax in > various picture formats. Just save as PCX or GIF or BMP... > Alt-F2 saves the actual screen to a pcx file and Ctrl-F2 saves it as a Gif file. So there is no need to add anything to LXPic. BMP is not included, but not necessary. It was in my memory, but not correct...:-) Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:43:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:31:19 -0700, Mike Kopplin wrote: > > Strange. I upgraded from v1.0x to v3.03 of the SetiHomeClient. And now > > wu take about 60 hours. With v1.0x it took 20 hours.. > > > > Anyone else seen this behaviour? > > There is information about this on the Setiathome site. The later clients > are doing more "science", looking at the data in more detail, thus, more > calculations. Yes I went over and looked on the "Whats new" page and saw that I do more science now. :-) Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:03:29 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > So with other words- once the intelligence is > there, it's stupid enough to kill everything! It's > very difficult to say exact how long a "intelligent" > culture can survive I have some problems with that definition of intelligence. We can kill ourselves off easy enough. And maybe we will. But we haven't so far. Maybe we won't. That's our intelligence test. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:17:58 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Tipi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...but guess what?....'File not found'. Anyone know where TIPI is? Tried a few other repositories, but no luck Tipi is at the following: ftp://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch/mirror/hp95lx/eddie.mit.edu/hp95lx/lan guages/Tipi2a.zip ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/palmtops/hplx/eddie.mit.edu/languages/ Tipi2a.zip ftp://ftp.sonycsl.co.jp/mirror/eddie.mit.edu/hp95lx/languages/tipi2a .zip ftp://ftp.wu-wien.ac.at/pub/systems/hp200lx/super/95LX/tipi2a.zip ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/95LX/tipi2a.zip ftp://ftp.icm.edu.pl/vol/wojsyl1/coast/msdos/misclang/tipi2a.zip Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:14:36 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: TIPI Resources Comments: To: Roger Whitmarsh In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/19/01 +1300, you wrote: >Avi wrote: > > >And finally - WHERE to find it: (I do not know if it is latest!) > > > >http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/95lx/tipi2a.zip > >...but guess what?....'File not found'. Anyone know where TIPI is? >Tried a few other repositories, but no luck Yep - failed for me too. But I got it from SUPER HP95 Software collection, I believe... I'll check and post... >Cheers, Roger > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:12:12 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Ed Padin In-Reply-To: <029301c08180$3ea9db50$250110ac@openreach.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/18/01 -0500, Ed Padin wrote: >I think you also get first right of refusal to fly in the saucer to the home >planet. But first, you have to decipher the cook book they leave behind. I >think it's PGP encoded.... ROFL!!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:21:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: TIPI Resources Comments: To: Roger Whitmarsh In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Apparently the SUPER as it stands, does not include the HP95LX in the search. Here is how: http://www.palmtop.net/Programming.html then scroll down to TIPI... Enjoy... At 1/19/01 +1300, you wrote: >Avi wrote: > > >And finally - WHERE to find it: (I do not know if it is latest!) > > > >http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/95lx/tipi2a.zip > >...but guess what?....'File not found'. Anyone know where TIPI is? >Tried a few other repositories, but no luck > >Cheers, Roger > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:24:29 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Martin Bergvill In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Martin, >Strange. I upgraded from v1.0x to v3.03 of the SetiHomeClient. And now >wu take about 60 hours. With v1.0x it took 20 hours.. The new client is more compute intensive, takes more time. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:25:47 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: HP200LX WON'T TURN ON Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << While my HP was working at the office approximately twenty (20) minutes ago, when I came home, installed the adapter and attempted to turn the machine on, nothing happens! Any ideas? >> Maybe you need to check the obvious first. 1. Are you sure there's power in the wall socket (hey, I'm in California) 2. Are you sure the adapter's working? 3. Does the LX work at all without the adapter? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:26:51 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Psion Revo (Was Group project) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Franklin Eekhout wrote (>): > The Revo is a ARM RISC cpu at 36 MHz. > The DS 200LX is a CISC cpu at ~15 MHz? > About equal in performance? Are you joking? When the original Psion Series 5 came out it was generally = thought to have around the same processing power as a 486-25. The Revo is = basically the same machine at twice the clock speed. Don't be fooled by the = clock speed. It's a RISC processor. The 36 MHz equates to a WinCE device = running at well over 100 MHz. > How is RAM organized on the Revo? Anybody? 8Mb RAM which is dynamically shared between storage and working memory by = the OS. If you fill up the disk space you will have less space for running = software. This is done automatically by the OS and is invisible to the = user. The Revo Plus has the same processor as the standard Revo, but 16Mb = RAM. My Ericsson MC218 has the same processor and OS as the Revo, but has a = bigger backlit screen, a bigger better keyboard, a CF port and more = built-in software.=20 > RISC cpu's seem sluggish, but that is maybe the OS? Huh? Sluggish? RISC? EPOC? Have you actually worked with one? One of the = main differences between my WindoZzze box and the MC218 is that I hardly = ever have to wait for my MC218 except when performing magic by macro. There are a couple of things that take longer than they should, = particularly reading large directory structures when opening a file from = within an application, but that is due to a bug. It can be a little = annoying, but is not much of a problem once you know your way around the = OS. There's more than one ways to skin a cat! The processing power of the Revo is to the HP200LX like a Porsche is to a = donkey cart. That is not to say that the Revo is that much more useful, in = fact, in many cases its limitations will make it less useful, particularly = as it is not expandable. Raw processing power is not everything and of = course it is using some of that power to run the graphic front end. BTW, somebody said the other day that the HPLX was the only platform for = which it was practicable to develop software on the device. For your = information, the Psion S5, S5mx, S7, NetBook, Ericsson MC218, Oregon = Osaris, and Geofox one all come with the very powerful programming language = OPL onboard, and many of the shareware applications available for EPOC were = developed on the machines. For the Revo, OPL can be installed if you need = it. Even the old Psion Series 3* SIBO machines had OPL. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:27:29 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Alternate power sources MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi This should probably have been posted as fluff, but as I keep getting, and = answering the same question I decided not to. Sorry! Robert Feldman wrote (>): > Just a thought, but have you tried using > a solar panel battery charger to recharge > batteries for your LX? Or how about hooking > up a small wind generator to recharge the > batteries? I've answered this a couple of times before on the list. I do have a solar = panel, but with the need for powering the fridge, navigation lights etc. = etc. I'm already consuming more than it generates. When coastal cruising, = it just about evens out with the engine running a little every day when = leaving and entering anchorages. And of course there is the occasional = rejuvinating long haul under power when there is no wind, and the very = occasional overnight stay in a marina with shore power. There are two ways of manging electricity on a boat: Generating more or = using less. Using less is infinitely cheaper than generating more! As mentioned, I've lived on the boat for 8 1/2 years. I've read just about = everything ever written about living on a boat, and have had my own = articles on the subject published. In fact, I have just finished an article = which I'm about to submit to a British yachting magazine. I have looked = into every conceivable means of generating electricity on a boat and feel I = have a good understanding of the subject. I've written a list of the = different means of generating electricity on a boat with their advantages = and disadvantages and have sent it to Robert Feldman. If anyone else wants = it, feel free to e-mail me off list. If anyone wants sneak preview of my article on living aboard in a cold = climate, just send me an e-mail off list, and I'll send it to you. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:27:47 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! In his great wisdom Mark Crumpton wrote (>): > I think the phrase "next to the supply cord" > implies using a bare reed *switch*, activated > by magnetic field above a certain strength I stand corrected. That is what I meant. > The problem with just a reed switch is that > it may be tricky to arrange. Agreed, and considering that I discovered the HP only draws 40mA when = listening for faxes and not charging the batteries, we don't have much of a = magnetic field to start with, so this is probably not wort persuing. > Rather than a reed-relay isolated switch > for the rig, you might consider the > alternative of an "opto-coupler" Is this what Werner calls a Photo MOS relay? (See quotes from his e-mail = below.) > (combination of LED and opto-transistor > in typically an 6/8-pin plastic package). > You would wire it as follows:- Thanks a lot Mark! It seems you have solved my problem. Now to get hold of = the bits and warm up the soldering iron! I'll report back later! Dr. Werner Furlan wrote (>): > I got my PhotoMos relais from=20 > RS-components in Austria. > You can look at the circuit diagram here: > http://194.239.190.84/toc/showpic.cmdl?pic=3DLargeProdPics/LF171862- 11.GIF > (attention, the long line of the address is > wrapped in this email.) > there are several types available, see page: > http://194.239.190.84/toc/showmodule.cmdl?module=3D5075237 > You could probably use the AQV251 type from Matsushita. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:28:35 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: EMS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Russell wrote (>): > Have you Jammed your C:? A:? ie Jam125.zip on > SUPER allowed me 3.7 Meg on a 2MB LX plus 600k of > RAM. I don't need more space on C: or more conventional memory. What I need is = EMM. I'm waiting for a second hand 80Mb Lexar CF, so once I get that, I'll = have plenty of space on A: too. > I use TREMM by times2tech on my DS 8MB. There is > also an EMM available on Super. Will they work on my 2Mb single speed 200LX? The software wants 1Mb of EMM. = As mentioned, I don't need to store anything on C:. If it's possible to get = 1Mb of EMM on the 2Mb LX, could someone please provide an idiots guide, = including if possible direct URLs to the files I need so I don't have to = spend time searching for them via cell phone? I seem to vaguely remember there was some software ages ago that would make = DOS use part of a disk drive as EMM. It would have been horribly slow with = the drives that were available back then of course, but it might just work = on the HP using C: or even the CF disk. Any ideas? Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:29:00 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! Hoopy frood Ed Padin wrote (>): > I think you also get first right of refusal to > fly in the saucer to the home planet. But > first, you have to decipher the cook book > they leave behind. I think it's PGP encoded.... Nah, all you need to do is feed the phone number for HP customer services = into the infinite improbability drive. (It''s gotta be useful for something, right?) Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:00:44 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: EMS In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Owen H. Morgan wrote: > > I use TREMM by times2tech on my DS 8MB. There is > > also an EMM available on Super. > > Will they work on my 2Mb single speed 200LX? The software wants 1Mb of > EMM. As mentioned, I don't need to store anything on C:. If it's Not sure if Mack's TREMM driver will work on an unexpanded LX as it was made specifically for the expanded LXes sold by T2T (and affiliates). In any case, Mack's driver isn't free (I'm not even sure you can buy it alone, without an upgrade - did anyone ever try? :-), but the one on the SUPER site is, and it should work on a stock 2MB LX. > possible to get 1Mb of EMM on the 2Mb LX, could someone please provide > an idiots guide, including if possible direct URLs to the files I need > so I don't have to spend time searching for them via cell phone? The file on SUPER you want is: http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/emm200.zip (40kb) It comes with documentation that should be sufficient - make sure you backup everything on the flashcard before hand and then you are safe even if things should go wrong. You might also need a "defragger", to defragment your C-drive, for the paging file. I will leave it to others on the list to recommend a good, free defragger, but if not I can probably send you "compress.exe", from an old copy of PC Tools. > I seem to vaguely remember there was some software ages ago that would > make DOS use part of a disk drive as EMM. It would have been horribly > slow with the drives that were available back then of course, but it > might just work on the HP using C: or even the CF disk. Any ideas? I tried one of those programs once (not on the LX, though). Apart from being shareware and only allowing you a tiny amount of EMM, it also used quite a bit of conventional memory, IIRC. On top of that, it was slow (lots of file i/o), but that's to be expected... Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:23:53 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I think you also get first right of refusal to fly in the saucer to the home > planet. But first, you have to decipher the cook book they leave behind. I > think it's PGP encoded.... The book: "How To Serve Man." Altho, at the moment I don't recall if that was an Outer Limits or a Twilight Zone episode - but it was a classic! (shivering G's) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 04:23:58 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Your assumption is that intelligent beings cannot overcome their natural > drives. Many times, while riding the NYC subway, I find myself having the > urge to choke the sh*t out of some a$$hole that bumps in to me. I resist the I moved from NY to Seattle to help, in Jorgen's words, to ruin it, too! But at least, I don't have to tempt fate and wind up on your subway car - Pelham Bay Line all through HS! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:40:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Martin Bergvill wrote: > What about Bluetooth. The new cards draws little power I have > heard(Yves jump in here if you want). Pop in a Bluetoothcard in the > slot and surf wireless while downtown in Oslo is possible I have heard. > (a testproject this summer I have heard) The new Nokia BlueTooth PCMCIA card uses less than the 150mA to which the HP200LX slot is constrained. If Bluetooth evolves to a standard then = having a BlueTooth driver for the 200LX would be a nice addition to support this = card. Personally I would prioritize a vCalendar<->ADB synch software. The = vCalendar part is likely to be supported by an increasing number of commercial = sycnh softwares. This would limit the initial development investment to ONE = target (vCalendar) while having future evolution taken care of by supported commercial applications. A.Garzotto's PIM application should be a good starting point. \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:16:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Menard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Menard Subject: Desktop PC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hey, Is there some sort of emulator that would allow me to run 200lx software on a desktop PC? I am running both dos and windows in my desktop. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:23:31 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: TIPI Resources > > ...but guess what?....'File not found'. Anyone know where TIPI is? It's in the HP95LX Programming section on SUPER. It doesn't get found by the search form as far as I can tell. Dled it last night, I think it was version 2.3. Does Kent have a web page/site? br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:33:29 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andre Roessel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andre Roessel Subject: Re: Desktop PC Comments: To: John Menard In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Hey, > > Is there some sort of emulator that would allow me to run 200lx > software on a desktop PC? I am running both dos and windows in my > desktop. > The Connectivity Pack does this. All internal software of the 200LX running on the PC. Runs great, even in WIN9x window. So long, Andre. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:10:42 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Re: Backlight project or who made the LX LCD? Comments: To: Hal Goldstein In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can't believe that the grand nation is not able to modify our LX with backlighthing! Where are all Hewlett and Packards ??? -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Hal Goldstein Sent: Dienstag, Januar 16, 2001 18.23 Uhr To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Backlight project or who made the LX LCD? <> I believe it was Hitachi and they weren't approached. However, my understanding is that the screens in small quantity were VERY expensive to produce. Even 10K is considered small. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:10:45 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Re: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit even with 512k I'm unable to get the program run, any ideas further?? Thanks for help Michael -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Michael Berrier Sent: Sonntag, Januar 07, 2001 12.18 Uhr To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! I found a promising project management program from Parcell Softarwe, Geneva IL, USA. After installing on the LX I was not able to get it running. The system shows " not enough memory " The doc file says as requirements : 512k, hard disc and DOS 3.3 What am I doing wrong ? Does anyone from the list have any experience with the software easy project 4.0 itself ? or is it basic problem with the LX I'm faced with. Any help is appreciated , I will report to the list about my experiences with ep 4.0 The result under DOS (notebook) are very promising. thanks in advance, Michael from Schwabach ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:14:52 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Psion Revo (Was Group project) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owen H. Morgan" > The Revo is a ARM RISC cpu at 36 MHz. > The DS 200LX is a CISC cpu at ~15 MHz? > About equal in performance? >Are you joking? When the original Psion Series 5 came out it was generally >thought to have around the same processing power as a 486-25. The Revo is >basically the same machine at twice the clock speed. Don't be fooled by the clock >speed. It's a RISC processor. The 36 MHz equates to a WinCE device running at >well over 100 MHz. Mmm. Are there any sites that check this? We sort of know how x86 compare to 68k to Sparcs etc. But I for one have not seen a speed comparison (ok, I know this is not kosher!) of the new RISC CPUs in PDAs. They have high clock speeds, but are as sluggish as h in use. Would be nice to see how fast they could crunch one of the standard tests, or either RC5 or Seti for that matter. This is very OS-dependent and Epoc is supposedly very efficient. But we have basically MS-DOS to contend with, and it's diffcult to find a more minimalistic/less overhead OS today. >My Ericsson MC218 has the same processor and OS as the Revo, but has a bigger >backlit screen, a bigger better keyboard, a CF port and more built-in software. I'll keep that in mind, I see them for sale on qxl.no. >> RISC cpu's seem sluggish, but that is maybe the OS? >Huh? Sluggish? RISC? EPOC? Have you actually worked with one? One of the >main differences between my WindoZzze box and the MC218 is that I hardly ever >have to wait for my MC218 except when performing magic by macro. Yanked your chain now, Owen! :-) I have played with Psions in stores/fairs and like them and find them fast. Liked the Geofox, pity it wasn't imported here. But I get more exposure to MS-based devices. They are slow. I am waiting for a Linux/QNX-based one to show up here in stores. Like the Yopy. RISCs from 20 MHz and upwards are often used in print engines. I always thought RISCs were the bee's knees until CE PDAs showed up. I really liked the Acorn Archimedes and almost bought one, saving like mad to afford it. It managed it's resources very well and wasn't all that fast MHz-wise. >Raw processing power is not everything and of course it is using some of that >power to run the graphic front end. It is now that one is looking for a group project and if one contemplates implementing a browser. Memory expansion too maybe. It would be nice to see a compile of the Opera browser on MS-DOS using the 80186 set and see what the minimum specs could be. Strange how people can do magic... But I suppose one can only do so much magic with so many MHz. :-) I am changing jobs now, apparently Opera is located in the building next to my new work place. br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:17:11 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: TIPI Resources ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Meshar" > Apparently the SUPER as it stands, does not include the HP95LX in the > search. Here is how: > > http://www.palmtop.net/Programming.html then scroll down to TIPI... > :-) I read most recent mail first and then scroll backwards. Sorry folks! Maybe the search should look at the 95LX section? br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:58:48 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > > got to http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_70769.html and > > click on join to join the da-seti group. It is volunteer, you get nothing > > except a rare email from me , and if you discover a life "out there" > > (certainly none here!) you may get a handshake (from me!) So lower your > > hopes for gain and fame, just enjoy it. Personally I think Avi is in it for profit. Any extra terrestrial intelligence would obviously use HPLX (or similar) computers (after all they are intelligent) and Avi is trying to sell them WWW/LX. ( though he will probably rename it GWW/LX). He is looking for new customers ;) David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:45:49 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Group project Comments: To: Yves Leurquin In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Yves Leurquin wrote: > Personally I would prioritize a vCalendar<->ADB synch software. The > vCalendar part is likely to be supported by an increasing number of > commercial sycnh softwares. This would limit the initial development > investment to ONE target (vCalendar) while having future evolution > taken care of by supported commercial applications. Tracking iCalendar (RFCs 2445-2447) may be a better choice, unless there's a pressing need for vCal support. In any case, if I read things correctly, vCal and iCal will be merging in the next iteration, so this point may be moot. > A.Garzotto's PIM application should be a good starting point. I'd lean more towards a vCard/vCalendar-compliant software connector ("conduit" to Palm-owners) for the built-in apps. While PIM is kinda nice, it has no sync ability, IIRC, and I really don't want to buy & run the Connectivity Pack in a DOS emulator on my Linux box. If done correctly, this connector could also interface with an IRDA software module for "beaming" and sync purposes. -- - Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:21:57 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: HP200LX WON'T TURN ON Comments: To: Ed Padin In-Reply-To: <02f401c0819e$d09a6890$250110ac@openreach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Ed Padin wrote: > I below 2 LXs, one by charging and the other by leaving it plugged in > at my desk (yes, I made sure that charging was turned off). In both > cases, it seems to get a little warm. Electronic items tend to wear > out quicker when warm. Did the onboard power supply blow in both cases? If so, were you using the HP adapter, or a no-name one? Ian Butler has much to say about this in his Power Systems FAQÝ*¨, in particular: Ý...¨ undervoltage and not having enough mA available does make the onboard power supply work a lot harder. Ý...¨ The other thing that will happen is the adapter itself will become very hot to the touch. He recommends 12V as the ideal input voltage, and 300mA minimum current (750mA if you're running PC cards -- HP adapters are rated thus). I've been running mine for the last 4+ years off a 12V/350mA adapter with no problems, but after reading Ian's words, I'm gonna hunt for a more powerful supply. Ý*¨ http://www.hplx.net/faq.power.html -- not hard to find, but every time I visit HPLX.NET, my eyes automagically skip over the link for no good reason -- - Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:08:35 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: ÝFLUFF¨ Prescient FAQ Writer (was Re: HP200LX WON'T TURN ON) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Adrian Ho wrote: > Ý*¨ http://www.hplx.net/faq.power.html -- not hard to find, but every time > I visit HPLX.NET, my eyes automagically skip over the link for no good > reason Interesting -- in the Acknowledgements section, Ian Butler wrote: Thanks to what HP used to be before Hewlett died, we have this wonderful machine to gripe about when dealing with high-drain PC cards! The FAQ is (c) 1998, Dave Sergeant last updated the page Feb 1999...and Bill Hewlett died just last week. This guy's amazing! 8-) I'm assuming he actually mean Dave Packard instead? A tiny wart in an otherwise excellent (and curiously unremarked) FAQ. -- - Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 05:12:10 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: FLUFF:FS:FA: Brand New 4mb HP 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's your last chance to buy a brand new HP 200lx. I bought this unit in late 1999 as a spare. I never even opened the box, it's still sealed. I just can't stand to see it sitting on the shelf. It should be out in the world being used. Check it out via the link below. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1208958971 Best Regards, Tom Salwasser PS For you music lovers out there I'm also selling an old stereo receiver. It's a monster, it will blow most speakers. I don't think they're made like this anymore. I'm letting my son run the auction and keep the proceeds, he's saving for a new saxophone. See the link below. Thanks! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1208940420 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:07:47 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: TIPI Resources In-Reply-To: <00c701c081f8$9c5ae910$1401a8c0@srs.as> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Franklin Eekhout wrote: > Maybe the search should look at the 95LX section? If you want to implement it, just let me know and I'll send you the relevant Perl scripts! ;-) Despite the similar apperance, the 95LX and 100/200LX SUPER sections are actually quite different underneath, which would make implementing the search time consuming, and with little gained by it, IMO. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:04:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:19:14 -0600 > From: Bryan Biggers > Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > > If it did, you 200LX would still be working on the first work > unit! > Bryan And have had three mandatory version upgrades in the process! Jon (689 units in the Daynotes Gang) Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - > > > awm@ALWAYSAFE.COM wrote: > > > > NONE of the SETI stuff runs on the 200?LX! Sorry if you were misled to > > think so. All my seti clients now run on a Win98 750MHz machine with lots > > of RAM. > > > > At 1/17/01 -0700, you wrote: > > >Wow, not bad for a 200LX :-) > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:08:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: More storage on less MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:08:16 +0100 > From: Franklin Eekhout > Subject: Re: More storage on less > > > Da THUMBDRIVE, no software needed > > No hardware needed, except da drive. > > Plugs inta da USB port of PC compat > > desktop or laptop. woiks on W9x. > > > It needs a driver, Al, at least on the 64 MB one I looked at. That is the > one failing of it... Otherwise it is very smart. > > br > > Franklin > Well, it needs a USB port as well - which locks out a lot of less-new machines including the classic Omnibooks (not to mention the LX). Also less versatile than CF, which I can use in my camera too. Still, all these tiny memory devices must be giving security officers everywhere incredible headaches. If Los Alamos could lose notebook hard drives and Dr. Lee's backup tapes could you imagine them trying to find one of these, or a Sony Memory Stick? Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:20:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:17:39 -0500 > From: Martin Bergvill > Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:10:59 -0500, Ken Hansen wrote: > > > A Libretto 50, left alone, will take less than 14 days to calculate one WU. > > My first SETI "box" was a P/75 w/no cache, 32 Meg RAM running Win95 - same > > stats as the Libretto, and it took a long time, but less than a week > > certainly. Maybe 5 days, but my recollections an this are hazy... > > > > My PII/333 SMP box now happily chugs along on one, or sometimes two, WUs at > > a time quite nicely (current WU @ 62% after 14 hours). > > Strange. I upgraded from v1.0x to v3.03 of the SetiHomeClient. And now > wu take about 60 hours. With v1.0x it took 20 hours.. > > Anyone else seen this behaviour? > > Regards > > -- > Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway > I was running about 11-12 hr. on a Dell Latitude 450 MHz PII using 2.4; 3.0 was giving me 8-1/2 - 10 hr., and with 3.03 I'm up to 13-15. They've added some complexity to their analyses, which I think wasn't fully functional in 3.0 for the NT environment. My OB800/166 took about 45 hr/unit using the GUI version (with on-screen turned off!), 35 hr. using the character-only one. I'm about to take the Dell off-line to test the 3 versions on the same work unit. Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:27:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: EMS Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that tremm and the ems driver on the super site are the only things I've ever heard of working to give expanded memory. The ems driver on the super site will only work on some older palmtops. BTW: You may be able to purchase the tremm driver without getting an upgrade. I had gotten the memory upgrade from the other guys that used to do (what werer they called...). Anyway, they did not supply an emm driver so Mack was kind enough to sell me his even though I did not get the hardware upgrade from him. > RAM. I don't need more space on C: or more conventional memory. What I need is EMM. I'm waiting for a second hand 80Mb Lexar CF, so once I get that, I'll have plenty of space on A: too. > I use TREMM by times2tech on my DS 8MB. There is > also an EMM available on Super. Will they work on my 2Mb single speed 200LX? The software wants 1Mb of EMM. As mentioned, I don't need to store anything on C:. If it's possible to get 1Mb of EMM on the 2Mb LX, could someone please provide an idiots guide, including if possible direct URLs to the files I need so I don't have to spend time searching for them via cell phone? I seem to vaguely remember there was some software ages ago that would make DOS use part of a disk drive as EMM. It would have been horribly slow with the drives that were available back then of course, but it might just work on the HP using C: or even the CF disk. Any ideas? Owen -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:36:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can try sending a copy to someone with an expanded LX and see if it runs on theirs. It's not piracy if they erase the program when they are done testing (well, technically, I guess it may be...) . Now, I think this was already suggested but, did you make ABSOLUTELY certain that system manager was unloaded. Try booting the unit and pressing the ALT key while it boots. Try to boot with no startup files and see if you can run the software then. (somebody please correct me if I've given the wrong instructions for booting w/out the startup files processed. I don't feel like rebooting my LX to find out.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Berrier" To: Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:10 AM Subject: Re: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! > even with 512k I'm unable to get the program run, any ideas further?? > Thanks for help > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of > Michael Berrier > Sent: Sonntag, Januar 07, 2001 12.18 Uhr > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! > > > I found a promising project management program from Parcell Softarwe, Geneva > IL, USA. After installing on the LX I was not able to get it running. The > system shows " not enough memory " > > The doc file says as requirements : 512k, hard disc and DOS 3.3 > > What am I doing wrong ? Does anyone from the list have any experience with > the software easy project 4.0 itself ? or is it basic problem with the LX > I'm faced with. Any help is appreciated , I will report to the list about my > experiences with ep 4.0 The result under DOS (notebook) are very promising. > > > thanks in advance, Michael from Schwabach > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:11:19 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: infohandler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi colleagues, I would like to share with you all a very promising software I found, handling infos, datas, links and a lot more. Its worth to have a look on it. Here is the link: www.mdesoft.com Check it out !! regards, Michael from Schwabach !! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:47:09 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: SciFi from the past (might be ÝFluff¨) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The last man connected to the Net was browsing > some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared > on the screen... > -------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story > I think you also get first right of refusal to fly in the > saucer to the home planet. But first, you have to > decipher the cook book they leave behind. I > think it's PGP encoded.... I remember this from The Twilight Zone's "They Serve Man". Is science fiction of the past now becoming our mythology? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:48:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Desktop PC Comments: To: John Menard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Menard wrote: > Hey, > > Is there some sort of emulator that would allow me to run 200lx > software on a desktop PC? I am running both dos and windows in my desktop. > > Thanks. > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Connectivity Pack with it's built in apps. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:55:54 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jorgen@PALMTOP.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's you! Are all people like you? Answer- no and that's why we have so much chrimes etc. Jorgen > Your assumption is that intelligent beings cannot overcome their = natural > drives. Many times, while riding the NYC subway, I find myself having = the > urge to choke the sh*t out of some a$$hole that bumps in to me. I = resist the > urge because my conscious mind knows it would be more detrimental to me = in > the long run. It's the same thing that keeps me from fulfilling reproduc= tive > urges and cheating on my wife.... :-/ > > uh, ok. Never mind. You're right ;¬> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:07:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Psion Revo (Was Group project) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Don't be fooled by the clock speed. It's a RISC processor. > The 36 MHz equates to a WinCE device running at well over > 100 MHz. The WinCE devices also use RISC processors. RISC processors aren't that much faster than CISC processors. It depends on what they're doing. The debate about which is faster has been going on forever. On the other hand, the 80186 that we're using is an older technology with a small cache (16 bytes, IIRC) and none of the tricks that modern RISC and CISC CPUs use to get their extra speed. RISC was originally developed to give increased speed. Hence it's reputation. But CISC CPUs incorporated a few of the RISC techniques and many new tricks of they're own to pretty much catch up. I attended a seminar at Data General a number of years ago where they announced that they were changing the standard CPU on their Aviions from the Motorola RISC (I forget it's number) to Pentium 2's for increased speed. They had determined that the Pentiums were significantly faster at the same clock speed in a multi-processor environment. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:10:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Doug Balchin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Doug Balchin Subject: Wanted: Fitted keyboard cover Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking for a place to purchase clear keyboard covers for my hp = palmtops. Years ago, I used to purchase them from a supplier in B.C. = Canada. I work in dusty environments and they are a must. I cannot find = any one who has heard of these. =20 Thanks in advance DB ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:18:19 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: HPLX spotted on TV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was flipping channels with my TV card on the computer, and hey! There was an HP200 or 100 on one of the shows. I snapped a capture of it... http://webpages.charter.net/bbiggers/TV2.JPG I don't know what show this was. The kid shown was a "child genius". He said something like... "For your information, this isn't a game boy! It is a multitasking notebook computer...". Thought you would like to see it. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:21:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L v Donkey Carts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The processing power of the Revo is to the > HP200LX like a Porsche is to a donkey cart. I think we'll all agree that the Porsche is faster and more powerful than a donkey cart. Untill you have a load of firewood or 60 bushels of tomatos to take to market. Porsche gives you impressive numbers and a sleek look. Donkey carts can do a lot more useful work. Thank you for that very apt anology. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:26:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Using 95LX cases for the 200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are the 95 LX cases significantly different than the 200LX? Personally, I prefer the black case and would love to have my 200LX in a 95LX case. I had one a while ago and it looked a lot like my 200's case. I know that the serial port is differnt, tho... 95LX's can be had sometimes for < $50 on ebay. Would thaddeus replace an 200LX case with a 95LX case? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:28:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Obviously, the kid knew nothing. He's holding it wrong... ya gotta do the thumb thing, kid! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Biggers" To: Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 11:18 AM Subject: HPLX spotted on TV > I was flipping channels with my TV card on the computer, and hey! > There was an HP200 or 100 on one of the shows. I snapped a > capture of it... > > http://webpages.charter.net/bbiggers/TV2.JPG > > I don't know what show this was. The kid shown was a "child > genius". He said something like... "For your information, this > isn't a game boy! It is a multitasking notebook computer...". > > Thought you would like to see it. > Bryan > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:30:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Christopher Blackmon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Christopher Blackmon Organization: Nortel Networks Subject: Games MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anybody know of some old commercial game titles that work on the 200lx? thanks, Christopher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:38:38 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Developing on the device MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > BTW, somebody said the other day that the HPLX > was the only platform for which it was practicable > to develop software on the device. Whoever said that wasn't paying much attention. The Radio Shack Model 100 and the Epson HX-20 were probably the first truly portable devices and most of the 3rd party software developed for them was developed right on the device itself. There wasn't any other practical way to do it at the time. Emulators might have been developed but I don't think there was anything around for less than $100,000 that could run one at a usable speed. Some other portable platforms for which software is often developed on-board are the HP48 (and earlier), the Tandy and Casio Zoomer, the Newton and the Palm Pilot, which has a few excellent development tools for on-board work. And, as you said, the various Psions. But the 200lx does stand out in this catagory. No other portable platform has the huge variety of very sophisticated tools to select from. No other portable platform that I'm aware of has so many types on-line documentation to choose from. Who else has anything like Norton Guides, HelpPC and thousands of technical documents in text form? I think the 200lx stands out so much as a development platform that it might be described as the Porsche/donkey cart team in this area. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:46:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Games MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > From: Christopher Blackmon Ýmailto:blackmon@NORTELNETWORKS.COM¨ > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 11:30 AM > > Does anybody know of some old commercial game > titles that work on the 200lx? Mike Wagstaff put up an interesting site listing a number of games and other diversions for the HPLXes at http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/plaza/aj93/waggy/hp/index.htm. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:53:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: SciFi from the past (might be ÝFluff¨) In-Reply-To: <000701c0822f$15f18f00$94fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:47:09 -0600 Barry a =E9crit: > I remember this from The Twilight Zone's "They Serve Man". "To Serve Man", more exactly. It's the title of the cook book. You can find something about it at : http://www.wallsoffame.com/html/television__124.html=20 One of my favorite TZ episodes... :-)=20 (BTW, seems that nobody has Rot13 decoded the two messages I sent about this subject :-( ) > Is science fiction of the past now becoming our mythology? And is Twilight zone our Bible ? (well, _your_ Bible.... In france our mythology seems to be "The Prisonner" or "The Invaders".... More paranoids we are ) Jacques. --=20 The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:48:55 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andre Roessel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andre Roessel Subject: Re: Games Comments: To: Christopher Blackmon In-Reply-To: <3A686B95.C764B6A2@americasm01.nt.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Does anybody know of some old commercial game > titles that work on the 200lx? Everything that runs on an XT with CGA screen should run on the 200 LX as well. Just look here, will be paradise for you: http://www.abandonkeep.com/index.shtml So long, Andre. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:03:37 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV In-Reply-To: <045b01c08234$e5145880$250110ac@openreach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Ed Padin wrote: > Obviously, the kid knew nothing. He's holding it wrong... ya gotta do the > thumb thing, kid! Small fingers can handle the keyboard better :-) In any case, the LX has never been a "multitasking notebook computer", just task switching... Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:30:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , matrix@SHOT.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Francois Gurin Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad In-Reply-To: ; from Laust Brock-Nannestad on Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:03:37PM +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:03:37PM +0100, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > Obviously, the kid knew nothing. He's holding it wrong... ya gotta do the > > thumb thing, kid! > > Small fingers can handle the keyboard better :-) > > In any case, the LX has never been a "multitasking notebook computer", > just task switching... Not sure if anyone remembers desqview, but it does run on the 200lx. I don't know if it will make use of the ems driver (which would be really useful). on a stock 200, there wasn't enough memory to run more than a couple of tiny windows. Of course, if you run minix it'll multitask too i think calling it a notebook is much more offensive :) --francois ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:36:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Comments: To: matrix@SHOT.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:29:57 -0500 (EST) Hi: Which version of DESQiew did you run? I have a package called DeskView386 which says it comprises 2 programs, QEMM-386 (the expanded memory manager) and DESQview 2 ("a multitasking DOS enviroment that runs on 8088,8086,80286,80386 PCs & PS2s") Hmmmm....might be an interesting weekend project for my spare 200LX (2x32) Cheers...AJKind 59m03s ago ... On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Francois Gurin wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:03:37PM +0100, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > > Obviously, the kid knew nothing. He's holding it wrong... ya gotta = do the > > > thumb thing, kid! > > > > Small fingers can handle the keyboard better :-) > > > > In any case, the LX has never been a "multitasking notebook computer", > > just task switching... > > Not sure if anyone remembers desqview, but it does run on the 200lx. I > don't know if it will make use of the ems driver (which would be really > useful). on a stock 200, there wasn't enough memory to run more than = a > couple of tiny windows. > > Of course, if you run minix it'll multitask too > > i think calling it a notebook is much more offensive :) > > --francois > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:01:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gregory Popovitch Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gregory Popovitch Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, DeskView386 won't work on the 200LX, which has a 80186 processor. Don't waste your week-end trying :-) gregory > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Al > Kind > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 3:36 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV > > > Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:29:57 -0500 (EST) > > Hi: > > Which version of DESQiew did you run? I have a package called > DeskView386 which says it comprises 2 programs, QEMM-386 (the > expanded memory manager) and DESQview 2 ("a multitasking DOS > enviroment that runs on 8088,8086,80286,80386 PCs & PS2s") > > Hmmmm....might be an interesting weekend project for my spare 200LX > (2x32) > > Cheers...AJKind > > 59m03s ago ... > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Francois Gurin wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:03:37PM +0100, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > > > Obviously, the kid knew nothing. He's holding it wrong... > ya gotta do the > > > > thumb thing, kid! > > > > > > Small fingers can handle the keyboard better :-) > > > > > > In any case, the LX has never been a "multitasking notebook computer", > > > just task switching... > > > > Not sure if anyone remembers desqview, but it does run on the 200lx. I > > don't know if it will make use of the ems driver (which would be really > > useful). on a stock 200, there wasn't enough memory to run more than a > > couple of tiny windows. > > > > Of course, if you run minix it'll multitask too > > > > i think calling it a notebook is much more offensive :) > > > > --francois > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > * > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:08:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gregory Popovitch Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gregory Popovitch Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry I spoke too fast! I should have read more carefully! gregory > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Gregory Popovitch > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 4:02 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV > > > Hi, > > DeskView386 won't work on the 200LX, which has a 80186 processor. > Don't waste your week-end trying :-) > > gregory > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Al > > Kind > > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 3:36 PM > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > > Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV > > > > > > Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:29:57 -0500 (EST) > > > > Hi: > > > > Which version of DESQiew did you run? I have a package called > > DeskView386 which says it comprises 2 programs, QEMM-386 (the > > expanded memory manager) and DESQview 2 ("a multitasking DOS > > enviroment that runs on 8088,8086,80286,80386 PCs & PS2s") > > > > Hmmmm....might be an interesting weekend project for my spare 200LX > > (2x32) > > > > Cheers...AJKind > > > > 59m03s ago ... > > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Francois Gurin wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:03:37PM +0100, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > > > > Obviously, the kid knew nothing. He's holding it wrong... > > ya gotta do the > > > > > thumb thing, kid! > > > > > > > > Small fingers can handle the keyboard better :-) > > > > > > > > In any case, the LX has never been a "multitasking notebook > computer", > > > > just task switching... > > > > > > Not sure if anyone remembers desqview, but it does run on the > 200lx. I > > > don't know if it will make use of the ems driver (which would > be really > > > useful). on a stock 200, there wasn't enough memory to run > more than a > > > couple of tiny windows. > > > > > > Of course, if you run minix it'll multitask too > > > > > > i think calling it a notebook is much more offensive :) > > > > > > --francois > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > * > > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:19:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: DESQview on LX, was: HPLX spotted on TV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:08:43 -0500 (EST) Yes, I know the QEMM-386 module won't work, but DESQview should run...I guess the challenge would be to find a an older version of QEMM that would run on the LX...most interesting is that this version only supports DOS to 4.02 ;-) Cheers...AJKind 06m57s ago ... On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Gregory Popovitch wrote: > Hi, > > DeskView386 won't work on the 200LX, which has a 80186 processor. > Don't waste your week-end trying :-) > > gregory > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of = Al > > Kind > > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 3:36 PM > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > > Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV > > > > > > Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:29:57 -0500 (EST) > > > > Hi: > > > > Which version of DESQiew did you run? I have a package called > > DeskView386 which says it comprises 2 programs, QEMM-386 (the > > expanded memory manager) and DESQview 2 ("a multitasking DOS > > enviroment that runs on 8088,8086,80286,80386 PCs & PS2s") > > > > Hmmmm....might be an interesting weekend project for my spare = 200LX > > (2x32) > > > > Cheers...AJKind > > > > 59m03s ago ... > > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Francois Gurin wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:03:37PM +0100, Laust Brock-Nannestad = wrote: > > > > > Obviously, the kid knew nothing. He's holding it wrong... > > ya gotta do the > > > > > thumb thing, kid! > > > > > > > > Small fingers can handle the keyboard better :-) > > > > > > > > In any case, the LX has never been a "multitasking notebook = computer", > > > > just task switching... > > > > > > Not sure if anyone remembers desqview, but it does run on the = 200lx. I > > > don't know if it will make use of the ems driver (which would be = really > > > useful). on a stock 200, there wasn't enough memory to run more = than a > > > couple of tiny windows. > > > > > > Of course, if you run minix it'll multitask too > > > > > > i think calling it a notebook is much more offensive :) > > > > > > --francois > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > * > > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:48:40 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Comments: To: Bryan Biggers In-Reply-To: <3A6868CB.C45F13D5@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Nice picture - still alive, for such a "dead machine" :-) ... But the palmtop isn't multitasking. It can taskswitch though... With Desqview it can possibly multitask, but results are probably not that hot. There are probably other multi-tasking software around that might even run on the Palmtop. The software on the Palmtop (system manager) is a classic taskswitcher. At 1/19/01 -0600, you wrote: >I was flipping channels with my TV card on the computer, and hey! >There was an HP200 or 100 on one of the shows. I snapped a >capture of it... > >http://webpages.charter.net/bbiggers/TV2.JPG > >I don't know what show this was. The kid shown was a "child >genius". He said something like... "For your information, this >isn't a game boy! It is a multitasking notebook computer...". > >Thought you would like to see it. >Bryan > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:30:27 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DESQview 2 will run on the 200lx... and is a good general multi-tasker for pre 386 processors... In another life (a real long time ago) I used to run a WWIV BBS system in the background on my 8mhz Nec V30 box... I could be playing elite in the foreground while people were on my bbs in the background... and it rarely if ever skipped a beat. Dan driden@stlnet.com -----Original Message----- From: Al Kind To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:37 PM Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:29:57 -0500 (EST) Hi: Which version of DESQiew did you run? I have a package called DeskView386 which says it comprises 2 programs, QEMM-386 (the expanded memory manager) and DESQview 2 ("a multitasking DOS enviroment that runs on 8088,8086,80286,80386 PCs & PS2s") Hmmmm....might be an interesting weekend project for my spare 200LX (2x32) Cheers...AJKind 59m03s ago ... On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Francois Gurin wrote: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:03:37PM +0100, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > > Obviously, the kid knew nothing. He's holding it wrong... ya gotta do the > > > thumb thing, kid! > > > > Small fingers can handle the keyboard better :-) > > > > In any case, the LX has never been a "multitasking notebook computer", > > just task switching... > > Not sure if anyone remembers desqview, but it does run on the 200lx. I > don't know if it will make use of the ems driver (which would be really > useful). on a stock 200, there wasn't enough memory to run more than a > couple of tiny windows. > > Of course, if you run minix it'll multitask too > > i think calling it a notebook is much more offensive :) > > --francois > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:02:37 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Comments: To: matrix@SHOT.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010119143053.C8666@shot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/19/01 -0500, Francois wrote: >Of course, if you run minix it'll multitask too yes, true.. >i think calling it a notebook is much more offensive :) ROFL... at least he did not call it a calculator. Years ago I was at a restaurant reading email and replying to it (simple to do with a Palmtop ) and I have been at it for quite awhile - maybe 30 minutes. An older man came over and was quite disturbed, saying: "WHAT ARE YOU DOING? No one can calculate on a calculator for so long!" I cracked up! I laughed very hard. Invited him to sit by me and watch what I "calculate". I also then explained about the machine and so on. He was totally captivated, especially when I got to the ability to grab information from the Web and bring it into Lotus 1-2-3. He was retired, but managed a large portfolio of investments, a task that took many hours per day - the way _he_ was doing it. After several more meetings and discussions (he hired me to be his consultant) I formulated a way to do what he wanted that included using his palmtop (we went together to buy him one!) and some software packages. His average daily time went down from 6 hours to about 30 minutes, with similar or better results. He calls his palmtop "SuperCalculator" in deference of that original meeting. >--francois > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:19:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Neill Currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neill Currie Subject: FS: US Robotics 28.8 Kbps PCMCIA modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Perfect condition, works fine in my CE devices, but I don't currently have a 200LX to test it(so can't "absolutely" guarrantee it's power draw being low enough). X-jack connector, so no dongle to lose. $25 shipped in the USA, shipping at cost elsewhere............Neill Neill Currie Portland Me 04102, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:46:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FS: US Robotics 28.8 Kbps PCMCIA modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI, I think I had one of these and it was too much draw. Mine was the orange one with the X-jack. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neill Currie" To: Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 5:19 PM Subject: FS: US Robotics 28.8 Kbps PCMCIA modem > Hi > Perfect condition, works fine in my CE devices, but I don't currently > have a 200LX to test it(so can't "absolutely" guarrantee it's power draw > being low enough). X-jack connector, so no dongle to lose. $25 shipped in > the USA, shipping at cost elsewhere............Neill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:59:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, everyone, I know that the palmtop isn't multitasking and that it isn't a notebook computer and that the kid isn't holding it right! I just thought that you all would like to see a recent media appearance, botched as it is. I bet that the HP200 was picked because it was unrecognizable by most people, ha. Bryan A Meshar wrote: > > Nice picture - still alive, for such a "dead machine" :-) ... But the > palmtop isn't multitasking. It can taskswitch though... With Desqview it > can possibly multitask, but results are probably not that hot. There are > probably other multi-tasking software around that might even run on the > Palmtop. The software on the Palmtop (system manager) is a classic > taskswitcher. > > At 1/19/01 -0600, you wrote: > >I was flipping channels with my TV card on the computer, and hey! > >There was an HP200 or 100 on one of the shows. I snapped a > >capture of it... > > > >http://webpages.charter.net/bbiggers/TV2.JPG > > > >I don't know what show this was. The kid shown was a "child > >genius". He said something like... "For your information, this > >isn't a game boy! It is a multitasking notebook computer...". > > > >Thought you would like to see it. > >Bryan > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:01:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: DESQview on LX, was: HPLX spotted on TV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that DV can still do task switching in EMS or to disk even if there is no high memory area and no EEMS. Boy, it has been a long time since I had DV out for a spin. Bryan Al Kind wrote: > > Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:08:43 -0500 (EST) > > Yes, I know the QEMM-386 module won't work, but DESQview should run...I > guess the challenge would be to find a an older version of QEMM that > would run on the LX...most interesting is that this version only > supports DOS to 4.02 ;-) > > Cheers...AJKind > > 06m57s ago ... > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Gregory Popovitch wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > DeskView386 won't work on the 200LX, which has a 80186 processor. > > Don't waste your week-end trying :-) > > > > gregory > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Al > > > Kind > > > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 3:36 PM > > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > > > Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV > > > > > > > > > Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:29:57 -0500 (EST) > > > > > > Hi: > > > > > > Which version of DESQiew did you run? I have a package called > > > DeskView386 which says it comprises 2 programs, QEMM-386 (the > > > expanded memory manager) and DESQview 2 ("a multitasking DOS > > > enviroment that runs on 8088,8086,80286,80386 PCs & PS2s") > > > > > > Hmmmm....might be an interesting weekend project for my spare 200LX > > > (2x32) > > > > > > Cheers...AJKind > > > > > > 59m03s ago ... > > > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Francois Gurin wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:03:37PM +0100, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > > > > > Obviously, the kid knew nothing. He's holding it wrong... > > > ya gotta do the > > > > > > thumb thing, kid! > > > > > > > > > > Small fingers can handle the keyboard better :-) > > > > > > > > > > In any case, the LX has never been a "multitasking notebook computer", > > > > > just task switching... > > > > > > > > Not sure if anyone remembers desqview, but it does run on the 200lx. I > > > > don't know if it will make use of the ems driver (which would be really > > > > useful). on a stock 200, there wasn't enough memory to run more than a > > > > couple of tiny windows. > > > > > > > > Of course, if you run minix it'll multitask too > > > > > > > > i think calling it a notebook is much more offensive :) > > > > > > > > --francois > > > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > > * > > > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > > > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > * > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:44:08 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: FLUFF: Free gift for a lucky Palm Pilot user MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Listmembers, I used to have a Palm Pilot, but I gave it to my sister when I stopped using it (went to Psion and then back to the 200). Shortly after I got my PP, I purchased a copy of QuickSheet version 2.1 which I kept upgrading. I now have version 5. When I looked at Cutting Edge Software's website (http://www.cesinc.com) I saw that because I purchased when the s/w was fairly new, I'm entitled to free upgrades for life! Judging from the way I'm arguing with my wife at the moment, this may not be much longer, so I'd like to sell my licence for...nothing. I have checked with CES and they're happy for me to transfer the licence, I just supply the details to them. Now, here's my dilema. Who gets it? There aren't too many PP users here, but I know there are one or two. First come, first served seemed natural, but since I compose all my posts in the middle of the night (GMT) this naturally favours the Americans, a race already naturally favoured enough ;-) So, competition time. If you want the licence, e-mail me off list with a convincing argument why it should be you. Heart melting stories of orphaned kittens, bribes, thinly veiled threats, that sort of thing. I've labelled this fluff so that the boring ones won't get to see it. Oh, and it is, of course. Good luck. You have the weekend. Posts must reach me by midnight Monday 22/01/01 GMT. My decision is final. ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:54:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan, Weren't those the great days? WEB Dan Ridenhour wrote: > > DESQview 2 will run on the 200lx... and is a good general multi-tasker for > pre 386 > processors... In another life (a real long time ago) I used to run a WWIV > BBS system > in the background on my 8mhz Nec V30 box... I could be playing elite in the > foreground > while people were on my bbs in the background... and it rarely if ever > skipped a beat. > > Dan > driden@stlnet.com > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:04:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Comments: To: Bryan Biggers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan, I appreciate sharing this with us. It is nice to see the 200LX depicted as a useful device. I remember the first time I brought my new 200LX 1mb single speed to work. The pharmacist that I was working for at the time called it a toy. Well...that didn't last long. The pharmacy server crashed and we didn't have even a typewriter to generate labels for prescriptions. I hooked my 200LX up the the parallel printer through a batter powered serial to parallel converter and using MS-Works 2.0 for DOS, started producing formated labels in no time at all. I also used this program to print out a report of the transactions for the day so we could update all the patient profiles without having to retrieve the prescriptions. I was also able to generate a billing report. Needless to say he was amazed. So was I at the time. Now I do so much on my trusty 200LX 64mb double speed that I hardly think of using any other computer. William E. Blankenship Bryan Biggers wrote: > > Yes, everyone, I know that the palmtop isn't multitasking and > that it isn't a notebook computer and that the kid isn't holding > it right! I just thought that you all would like to see a recent > media appearance, botched as it is. I bet that the HP200 was > picked because it was unrecognizable by most people, ha. > Bryan > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:59:42 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: Games Comments: To: Andre Roessel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How bout NYET, a fallin block game by a koupla of Russians during the kold war or soon after. yor pal al.......... > > Does anybody know of some old commercial game > > titles that work on the 200lx? > Everything that runs on an XT with CGA screen > should run on the > 200 LX as well. > Just look here, will be paradise for you: > > http://www.abandonkeep.com/index.shtml > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:47:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Menard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Menard Subject: Re: FS: US Robotics 28.8 Kbps PCMCIA modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I have the yellow one with the x-jack. I upgraded it to 33.6. It does not work with my unit. It draws too much power and crashes the unit. Interestingly enough I have the 56k 3-com x-jack and it works great. >From: Ed Padin >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed >Padin >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: FS: US Robotics 28.8 Kbps PCMCIA modem >Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 17:46:02 -0500 > >FYI, I think I had one of these and it was too much draw. Mine was the >orange one with the X-jack. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Neill Currie" >To: >Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 5:19 PM >Subject: FS: US Robotics 28.8 Kbps PCMCIA modem > > > > Hi > > Perfect condition, works fine in my CE devices, but I don't currently > > have a 200LX to test it(so can't "absolutely" guarrantee it's power draw > > being low enough). X-jack connector, so no dongle to lose. $25 shipped >in > > the USA, shipping at cost elsewhere............Neill > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:42:47 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Crumpton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Crumpton Organization: Arcade - The Definitive Acorn BBS Subject: Re: Making the LX switch the shortwave reciever on. Hi again, Owen. >> for the rig, you might consider the >> alternative of an "opto-coupler" > >Is this what Werner calls a Photo MOS relay? Basically yes - the "Photo-MOS" range is Matsushita's brand of 'optically- isolated semiconductor relays' (the generic term). Such relays are "beefed-up" optocouplers, with higher-rated final output- stage; transistors, or triacs, in the case of those designed for AC loads. Other manufacturers produce such devices, but mainly they are designed for >=1A loads, and larger current-rating means larger physical size with these things... You may find the smallest of the "Photo-MOS" range are a "DIP8" package, the same as optocouplers. I'd expect an optoisolator to be cheaper/more readily available (although I see one of your countrymen has offered to obtain one "free" - the old "development sample request" no doubt!) Check the output-transistor current rating, though - you say you need ~100mA? To minimize power dissipation in the o/p transistor, make sure you're using sufficient LED current to switch it 'fully' on. The voltage 'drop' across it will then be minimized, and thus it's power-dissipation (P=IV) If you have I=0.1A, and <=0.3V drop, this would be 30mW, which shouldn't overheat a DIP8 package. The o/p current of these things can always be 'boosted' anyway, by using the optocoupler to drive an external transistor or your favourite reed-relay :-) If you need circuits, email me direct. I have some scrap optocouplers lying around (sometimes can find them in old modems), which I could 'play' with to investigate further, if you like? - Mark. P.S. Sorry for any delay in my list responses - I don't always read the daily digests straight away. -- ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ | Free Internet E-mail and Usenet News | | / \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \ | +44 20 8654 2212 +44 20 8655 4412/1811 | | A R C A D E | Croydon UK - Fidonet#2:254/27.0 | | The Definitive Acorn BBS | http://arcade.demon.co.uk at weekends | ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 05:28:56 +0100 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: infohandler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Berrier wrote: > I would like to share with you all a very promising software I found, > handling infos, datas, links and a lot more. Its worth to have a look on > it. Here is the link: > > www.mdesoft.com How does it integrate with th HP-LX ? +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:36:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: DESQview on LX, was: HPLX spotted on TV Comments: To: MCHEM1@uconnvm.uconn.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I did try several years ago. I don't know what I did get right: it crashed quite consistently after several moments. I suspect the odd ball LX keyboard driver (being software emulated) might have something to do with it. Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Al Kind To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Friday, January 19, 2001 1:32 PM Subject: DESQview on LX, was: HPLX spotted on TV Fri, 19 Jan 2001 16:08:43 -0500 (EST) Yes, I know the QEMM-386 module won't work, but DESQview should run...I guess the challenge would be to find a an older version of QEMM that would run on the LX...most interesting is that this version only supports DOS to 4.02 ;-) Cheers...AJKind 06m57s ago ... On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Gregory Popovitch wrote: > Hi, > > DeskView386 won't work on the 200LX, which has a 80186 processor. > Don't waste your week-end trying :-) > > gregory > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Al > > Kind > > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 3:36 PM > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > > Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV > > > > > > Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:29:57 -0500 (EST) > > > > Hi: > > > > Which version of DESQiew did you run? I have a package called > > DeskView386 which says it comprises 2 programs, QEMM-386 (the > > expanded memory manager) and DESQview 2 ("a multitasking DOS > > enviroment that runs on 8088,8086,80286,80386 PCs & PS2s") > > > > Hmmmm....might be an interesting weekend project for my spare 200LX > > (2x32) > > > > Cheers...AJKind > > > > 59m03s ago ... > > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Francois Gurin wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:03:37PM +0100, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > > > > Obviously, the kid knew nothing. He's holding it wrong... > > ya gotta do the > > > > > thumb thing, kid! > > > > > > > > Small fingers can handle the keyboard better :-) > > > > > > > > In any case, the LX has never been a "multitasking notebook computer", > > > > just task switching... > > > > > > Not sure if anyone remembers desqview, but it does run on the 200lx. I > > > don't know if it will make use of the ems driver (which would be really > > > useful). on a stock 200, there wasn't enough memory to run more than a > > > couple of tiny windows. > > > > > > Of course, if you run minix it'll multitask too > > > > > > i think calling it a notebook is much more offensive :) > > > > > > --francois > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > * > > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:09:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Hi Dan, >DESQview 2 will run on the 200lx... and is a good general multi-tasker for pre 386 >processors... In another life (a real long time ago) I used to run a WWIV BBS system >in the background on my 8mhz Nec V30 box... I could be playing elite in the >foreground while people were on my bbs in the background... and it rarely if ever >skipped a beat. I know from personal experience just how powerful Desqview was. I did that with an older version of Desqview too, but on a 286 actually running Host Plus as a full fledged BBS. Some friends of mine and I adapted and ran some really interesting doors on that BBS. One door actually included an offline email and newsgroup reader that provided offline access to email and selected newsgroups. I used to download soup packets from the net and send up responses in soup packets each night and then plug them into that door so BBS users could remotely operate that multiuser capable offline reader with their own accounts and storage space to read and respond to posts in those newsgroups while offline. That was my own unique method of providing free access to email and selected Usenet newsgroups for my BBS users. I had purchased a newer version of Desqview, but left it on my shelf. I actually used an older version that someone else had set up for me. (I had no idea how he did it, but worked great.) I used to do anything I wanted in sometimes as many as 9 other Desqview windows at once on my 286. Not one user of my BBS ever noticed the system slow down, at all. :-) Well, one day I went on vacation and my system went haywire. My automatic backup system (to another physical drive) went full cycle, covering up old good backups with corrupted ones before I got back. By the time I got back from my vacation, my primary hard drive was completely fried and my backups on the other drive were no good, either. :-( All of my software, manual files for everything (Desqview, tons of other cool software, adapted doors and even Slipknot and the email that contained my registration code for Slipknot) were lost forever. The newer version of Desqview that I had purchase way back then, later got lost in a move overseas. Since that time, I managed to find and purchase a Desqview 386 / QEMM 8 package, but I never used the Desqview part of it. I had no idea how to set it up again. It's still sitting on my shelf here in the original packaging collecting dust. I was never able to find Slipknot again. Do you know where I could find the old XT compatible version of Desqview? I'd really like to try using it on my HP200LX. It was so incredibly powerful in a DOS environment. I asked about this on this elist many many moons ago, but no one seemed to remember Desqview or even Slipknot (a DOS based web browser that required only a simple slip connection) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:25:14 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DCE17E3F0AB51D9A6C81063C" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DCE17E3F0AB51D9A6C81063C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I find it interesting that some of the very same people on the list that were complaining about the Pro-American political fluff are now clogging up the list with their self-aggrandizing braggings about their SETI statistics. Sorry, but I don't really care, folks. It would seem that politics (i.e.: freedom) would be more important in the grand scheme of things than a curious little project that will most likely turn out to be a fruitless waste of time, energy and money. Yes, you understand me correctly: While I do believe that there is life, intelligent life, on other planets, I don't believe that SETI, or any other similar project, will ever find any scientific evidence of it. SETI@home is nothing more than an interesting conversation piece. Richard --------------DCE17E3F0AB51D9A6C81063C Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="seronac.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard and Patti Smith Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="seronac.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://seronac.freeservers.com/ adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:seronac@freeport.com fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------DCE17E3F0AB51D9A6C81063C-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:28:10 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: NiMH battery care MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently bought several NiMH batteries and a new charger that has a switch for "NiMH/NiCd" modes for my 200LX to replace the old NiCds I've been using for several years. Wondering if NiMHs should be treated like NiCds for optimum life, I started looking around and found the following website. http://www.rccaraction.com/articles/NiMHbatcare1.asp I thought it would be of interest to other HPLXers also. I didn't know you weren't supposed to completely discharge NiMHs, that it's actually detrimental. I've always used an external charger, have always been afraid of the heat. The 200LX case does not exactly seem to be designed to dissipate waste heat well. According to the above article, NiMHs run about 10 to 15 degrees F hotter than NiCDs when charging. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:58:30 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Wanted: Fitted keyboard cover Comments: To: Doug Balchin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:10:12 -0500, Doug Balchin wrote: > I am looking for a place to purchase clear keyboard covers for my hp palmtops. Years ago, I used to purchase them from a supplier in B.C. > Canada. I work in dusty environments and they are a must. I cannot find any one who has heard of these. what about simple plastic foil which is actually used for wrapping food? GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:56:42 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: SMMx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nathalie, > having given up on Carousel because of data loss due to crashes, i = settled > for a combination of Maxdos, Morexm, Tasklist, Zoom, QuickView, and > Launcher. This is the first time I hear Carousel causes data loss due to crashes. I am sorry for you. On my DS 96MB unit I use SC and Maxdos (also cascaded) in my daily = business without any crashes. Here is my config.sys and autoexec.bat autoexec.bat: echo off prompt $p$g path c:\;c:\bat;c:\bin;c:\hdm;c:\pim;c:\sc;d:\bin;d:\dos;c:\dos;c:\net c: @c:\bin\lxcic.com /L rem @c:\bin\battlog.com @c:\bin\stef8b.com @c:\utility\quick\quick.com /b /a @c:\utility\abc_lx\abctsr.com set tmp=3Dc:\tmp set temp=3Dc:\temp subst w: c:\www config.sys: device=3D\driver\t2t\speed\spd31.exe /M /C /K /B device=3D\driver\t2t\rdt2t\rdt2t.exe device=3D\driver\t2t\tremm\tremm.exe /H=3D32 buffers=3D10 files=3D150 lastdrive=3Dz stacks=3D9,256 shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com /e:512 /p device=3D\driver\t2t\rdt2t\rdswap.exe > while browsing the Super site i came across SMMx (System Manager More = Menu > Ver 1.00b beta Copyright (c) 1995 by TabiKuro (VYF00263@nifty.ne.jp) I use SMMx from SYSMGR to access the games I like to play on my hp200lx. > this resembles XFinder, but is smaller and has better documentation. it = even > has a swap file, making maxdos obsolete I use XFinder for synchronizing my hp200lx. I don't see how XFinder will make Maxdos obsolete here. It offers the possiblity to launch additional applications from already launched applications -if supported- and having each time 560 KB, or more, of memory available. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 05:27:00 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: RoboNews error message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys, Has anyone run into the following error while using RoboNews? Time Out Line 16 in file C:\PostLX\Scr\NNTPAUTH.scx It sounds like it's timing out during authentication, but I double-checked= to make sure my login & password are okay. Any ideas on where I can look for errors? I've tried setting this thing up from scratch about a dozen = times.. I'm using version 3 of the latest WWW/LX suite from DA Soft, and my ISP = is Earthlink. TIA! David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:00:26 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lately the majority of list members switched to quoting after answering the subject. Did I miss any agreement about this? To me, it's still very confusing to get an answer without knowing the question. But this seems to be bad habit in todays human communication anyway, and the internet is only a mirror of this speedy life. But speed is not always good, especially if it comes to thinking. One explanation is for sure, that only an insignificant minority of list members still uses the palmtop and related software to access this list. This is a very bad sign indeed! Those who quote after giving the answer often pick up the subject anyway, because they seem to feel, that they cannot start writing without explaining about what they are going to write. In those cases, the quoting is superfluous. This applies to about 80% of all postings of the last days. SUGGESTION: If you intend to quote after your text, consider to not quote at all. Re:... in the subject line is often sufficient. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:46:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "thomas e. nemeth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "thomas e. nemeth" Subject: key sequences for Citizen PN60 pocket printer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, After moving back Stateside, I am unable to find my Citizen PN60 pocket printer manual. It controls its settings through key sequencing on the unit itself. If anyone has that page or two which describes how to set t= he output e.g. for IR or serial ports, I'd be tickled to get the information= . = There are 4- 5 buttons each color coded and correct sequences must be entered in order to get it to work - the default is IR I believe but since I have the Shier cable I'd like to use that. = Many thanks! Tom = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:15:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith In-Reply-To: <3A692F4A.64C5820C@freeport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>clogging up the list with their self-aggrandizing braggings...<< perhaps than you can help stop clogging the list by NOT sending your vcard with every post? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:40:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Games Comments: To: hobchi@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hobchi wrote: > How bout NYET, a fallin block game > by a koupla of Russians during the > kold war or soon after. I see this guy still hasn't found a spell checker.....I find his spelling much more offensive than any fluff complaints on this list. At least the flufff can be read.... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:55:14 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: Quoting In-Reply-To: <3A632A310005773C@mail.epost.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 20.01.2001, 16:44, stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE wrote: > Lately the majority of list members switched to quoting after > answering the subject. Did I miss any agreement about this=3F I totally agree to all you have said. I didn't notice an increase of such "tofu"-quotingsÝ1¨ (they had been there all the time) but it was actually one reason why I don't read this list on the palmtop anymore - too much useless bytes to download with my 14400 modem and too hard to read quickly on the palmtop's screen (IMO of course). What you wrote completely relates to the usenet and to private and business mail. I hope you are not named as "typically German" for writing these lines.Ý2¨ BTW: Another suggestion to read quickly through postings is to use an "in-reply-to" header so that mail readers capable of reading that header can show a "thread". Bye G=FCnther Ý1¨ "Text oben, follquote unten" =3D "text above, fullquote follows" Ý2¨ This is often the case when it comes to discussions about that in German usenet. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:00:06 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Games In-Reply-To: <3A69B151.8BF7B0AA@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, KenLondon wrote: > hobchi wrote: > > > How bout NYET, a fallin block game > > by a koupla of Russians during the > > kold war or soon after. > > I see this guy still hasn't found a spell checker.....I find his > spelling much more offensive than any fluff complaints on this list. He doesn't need a spell checker; he merely needs to keep the promise he made! http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/9811/msg01241.html Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:12:25 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: SciFi from the past (might be ÝFluff¨) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> I remember this from The Twilight Zone's "They Serve Man". > "To Serve Man", more exactly. It's the title of the cook book. Thanks for the correction. I'm amazed that I got that wrong. We watched the original broadcast of that show and the shock was similar to that, years later, of watching "The Sixth Sense". Although "To Serve Man" was a little more believable. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:28:12 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Subject: PCMCIA Disks and Processors are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition. (4) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available. They are in excellent Condition! One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Two (2) $55.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have (3) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Payment Terms: I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you can send payment to my address at: Scott Moore 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street Beaverton, Or 97006 Notes: I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let you know that your disks are on the way. I always send out disks and other products the very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday. I package all my disks and products in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery. All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to test a customer's new prototype product at work. If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you. If you want Insurance on your package it is .85 to 2.00. If you do not buy insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal errors. Orders outside the USA may be more. No Foreign Checks please! The response over the last few months has been just great! and the people I have worked with have been just Awesome! Thanks alot! Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:02:40 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: FLUFF Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith In-Reply-To: <3A692F4A.64C5820C@freeport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Thank you for your opinion. Obviously we disagree. I have no idea if the search will be fruitful or a waste of time but I am interested in it. There are several other Palmtopppers who are - as you correctly noted. Therefore it is a topic for palmtoppers. albeit in the FLUFF classification. As far as self-promoting and aggrandising - you read it differently than intended - I just wanted more people to be aware, and join the effort. Not everyone did, I note with dismay , because not everyone thinks this is an interesting effort. So be it, But some DID, and that is important - to engage ourselves in whichever way we can. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:06:07 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Larry Tachna In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/20/01 -0500, Larry Tachna wrote: > >>clogging up the list with their self-aggrandizing braggings...<< > >perhaps than you can help stop clogging the list by NOT sending your vcard >with every post? ROFL... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:33:14 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: DESQview on LX, was: HPLX spotted on TV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Yes, I know the QEMM-386 module won't work, > but DESQview should run...I guess the challenge > would be to find a an older version of QEMM that > would run on the LX...most interesting is that this > version only supports DOS to 4.02 ;-) No version of QEMM will run on the LX. QEMM was specifically written as a 386 memory manager. It was designed to take advantage of the mapping that the 386 allowed. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:20:45 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: DESQview on LX, was: HPLX spotted on TV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that QEMM could be of some limited use on a 286 also, to get at that big 64K high memory area. No use on the HP 200 as you say of course. Bryan Barry wrote: > > > Yes, I know the QEMM-386 module won't work, > > but DESQview should run...I guess the challenge > > would be to find a an older version of QEMM that > > would run on the LX...most interesting is that this > > version only supports DOS to 4.02 ;-) > > No version of QEMM will run on the LX. QEMM was specifically > written as a 386 memory manager. It was designed to take advantage > of the mapping that the 386 allowed. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:37:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Quoting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Lately the majority of list members switched to quoting after > answering the subject. Did I miss any agreement about this? An agreement, on this list, would be noteworthy indeed. I generally prefer to quote before the answer, but I try to follow the lead of the others in a quoted thread in order to minimize the confusion. I generally try to avoid creating a long block of quoted material, but if I do so I MAY put my answer at the top to spare active readers the need to page forward, but still have context for those who may not have seen all of the thread that might be significant to my answer. > One explanation is for sure, that only an insignificant > minority of list members still uses the palmtop and related > software to access this list. This is a very bad sign indeed! FWIW, NetTamer on the LX is my preferred email method, but two teenaged daughters at home and their discovery of web-based games makes for small windows of opportunity to use the LX there. Not to mention the hassle of asking them for a window, or catching hell for breaking their connections, but I suppose it's preferable to having them roam about the city at all hours with "friends" (or hormonally-engaged males) > SUGGESTION: If you intend to quote after your text, consider to > not quote at all. Re:... in the subject line is > often sufficient. That assumes we don't suffer from thread-hijacks and thread-drift ... a dangerous assumption on this list. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:36:56 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: key sequences for Citizen PN60 pocket printer Comments: cc: heise@medinst.com thomas e. nemeth writes: > After moving back Stateside, I am unable to find my Citizen PN60 pocket > printer manual. It controls its settings through key sequencing on the > unit itself. If anyone has that page or two which describes how to set the > output e.g. for IR or serial ports, I'd be tickled to get the information. I have a Citizen printer, but can't recall the model. Mine is the color model, I'm thinking that's the 60 and the B&W is the 50. Anyway, I can check Monday when I'm at work--that's where it is. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:57:45 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Re: RISC vs CISC debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, This is rather ridiculous. Apparently there is much debate about which RISC CPU families will survive. Surely PowerPC klan (both IBM high-end and Motorola G4) wins, R12000 is OK, Alpha is silently getting killed by Compaq, HP PA-RISC is very old and is obsoleted when Merced arrives. Merced is a combination of RISC and CISC, called Very Long Instruction Word architecture. But delivery is delayed for several years now... However, practically RISC to CISC is like SCSI to IDE in hard drives. New technologies, like higher revolutions / minute, GMR head, convoluted buffer algorithms etc. arrive in SCSI first. IDE tries hard and often looks good on paper, but is simply unsuitable for serious systems. Similarly, copper wires, silicon-on-insulator, etc. first appear in RISC, mostly because IBM's tremendous research base. These and many more leading edge features provide such advantages that actually allow for PowerPC CPUs running UNDERCLOCKED at 525-MHz in IBM's AS/400 to further enhance reliability and still performance is more than OK. The utmost argument for RISC superiority is that IBM has just converted its zSeries (formerly S/390) mainframe computer line from 32-bit extreme CISC to 64-bit RISC architecture, remotely based on PowerPC. In that market plus computing power is needed in any amount and the custo- mers plan for 15-25 years in advance, so IBM thinks RISC leads in the long run. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. PS: The 80186 had about 100.000 transistors, while I bet StrongARM must have at least 1,5 million. This alone shows their performance should not be compared. > RISC was originally developed to give increased speed. Hence it's > reputation. But CISC CPUs incorporated a few of the RISC techniques > and many new tricks of they're own to pretty much catch up. > > I attended a seminar at Data General a number of years ago where > they announced that they were changing the standard CPU on their > Aviions from the Motorola RISC (I forget it's number) to Pentium 2's > for increased speed. They had determined that the Pentiums were > significantly faster at the same clock speed in a multi-processor > environment. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:55:47 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Quoting Longden Loo writes: > FWIW, NetTamer on the LX is my preferred email method, but two teenaged > daughters at home and their discovery of web-based games makes for small > windows of opportunity to use the LX there. I have two teenaged sons at home, and can relate! This is one of the reasons I use LXTCP/PNR--it gives me the ability to read and write my e-mail offline, and upload and download during those small windows. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:20:54 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: 123 or similar question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi This is not a specifical group-question, but perhaps somebody has a hint. I want have the option (in 123, works, star*,..) when I am in a work-sheet with a grid of cells, that I can have in one cell a kind of object, which contains the result of another work-sheet. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:46:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, good point. Sorry, I forgot; it requires that I go in and change my preferences with every post I send, so it's easy to forget - deal with it or join the 21st century. Larry Tachna wrote: > >>clogging up the list with their self-aggrandizing braggings...<< > > perhaps than you can help stop clogging the list by NOT sending your vcard > with every post? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:39:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: 123 or similar question Comments: To: Klaus Reinhardt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Klaus Reinhardt wrote: > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- > Hi > > This is not a specifical group-question, but perhaps somebody > has a hint. > I want have the option (in 123, works, star*,..) when I am in > a work-sheet with a grid of cells, that I can have in one cell > a kind of object, which contains the result of another work-sheet. > > K@Rdt > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml In 123 you can have a link to a specific cell in another spreadsheet. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:50:53 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: FLUFF Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well Avi, it's nice that we can agree to disagree peacefully and respectfully - I appreciate that. However, even with my belief that it will be fruitless, I still participate in SETI@home, because it's an interesting novelty - but I don't care about my stats. If it does find anything significant, then no one will be more surprised than I! ;-) Richard sponsor@ftel.net wrote: > Thank you for your opinion. Obviously we disagree. I have no idea if the > search will be fruitful or a waste of time but I am interested in it. There > are several other Palmtopppers who are - as you correctly noted. Therefore > it is a topic for palmtoppers. albeit in the FLUFF classification. As far > as self-promoting and aggrandising - you read it differently than intended > - I just wanted more people to be aware, and join the effort. Not everyone > did, I note with dismay , because not everyone thinks this is an > interesting effort. So be it, But some DID, and that is important - to > engage ourselves in whichever way we can. > > Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:06:37 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc - Subject: WWW/LX and the Motorola ST7868W problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello again users and prospective users of the aforementioned combination. I'm having problems getting my phone to work with my palmtop. I know several of you are users of WWW/LX and the 7868W, so with luck, someone can steer me straight. Please note that I can use the lx's built in Datacom application to connect to my ISP, but cannot with WWW/LX. I am using the exact same connections for both applications. The connection is as follows: Startac 7868W <-> Startac data cable <-> null modem (Radio Shack brand) <-> HP 200LX connectivity pack cable <-> HP 200LX The phone also works fine with my HP Pentium laptop... flawlessly in fact. When I attempt to dial in using WWW/LX, the following occurs: WWW/LX reports "connecting to xxxxx". Then immediately after it reports this, WWW/LX shows "hanging up". And this is my problem. In simpler terms, I cannot get WWW/LX to "dial" the phone. I'm using WWW/LX version 3.1. Below are my settings from wwwsetup.exe. Thank you, Marcus zaaap@earthlink.net WWWSETUP.EXE Settings: Modem Type: EXTERNAL Modem: CHECKED Baud: 19200 Communication: PPP Modem Init: AT&C1&D2 (I've also tried ATZ, AT&F, and blank) Dial: ATDTXXX-XXXX Login: XXXXX Password: XXXXX IP: X.X.X.X DNS: XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX Alternate DNS: XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX Dialing Script: CHAP_SCRIPT ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:27:17 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: 123 or similar question Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken London wrote: > > In 123 you can have a link to a specific cell in another spreadsheet. ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi This sounds good; and how is it done - or which key-word I have to search for in the lotus-tut or so? K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:54:53 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: 123 or similar question In-Reply-To: <3A6A7335.7510@TU-Berlin.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > In 123 you can have a link to a specific cell in another spreadsheet. > > This sounds good; and how is it done - or which key-word I have > to search for in the lotus-tut or so? > Look in Help (F1) at Linking Files. An example, putting the formula: +<>B23 in a cell will copy the data from file "another.wk1", cell B23 to the current cell. If you edit another.wk1, it will be automatically updated in your main file when you open it. Regards, Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:07:50 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: 123 or similar question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you may try the following: +<>celladdress e.g. +<>b3 Here it is working fine. Kind regards Helmuth > Ken London wrote: > > > > In 123 you can have a link to a specific cell in another spreadsheet. > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- > Hi > > This sounds good; and how is it done - or which key-word I have > to search for in the lotus-tut or so? > > K@Rdt > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:18:48 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: 123 or similar question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Klaus, you may have a look F1 "Verbinden von Dateien" on a german hp200lx. Kind regards Helmuth > Ken London wrote: > > > > In 123 you can have a link to a specific cell in another spreadsheet. > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- > Hi > > This sounds good; and how is it done - or which key-word I have > to search for in the lotus-tut or so? > > K@Rdt > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:38:35 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Quoting In-Reply-To: <15674684791.20010120165514@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:55:14 +0100 G=FCnther Eisele a =E9crit: > BTW: Another suggestion to read quickly through postings is to use an > "in-reply-to" header so that mail readers capable of reading that header > can show a "thread". Agreed ! I pass half of my time, before reading the list, to reconstruct manualy the threads. :-( Adding "In-Reply-To" and "References" headers take only a dozen of lines to code. Then, I don't understand that any mail client yet in developpement (or being in developpement during the last two years) don't add these headers. Even if the coders don't use them for their own usage. I think we could say that it is simply a question of respect of the others readers... Jacques. --=20 The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:56:49 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi again Stefan Peichl wrote (>): > As Werner stated, the weatherfax software > can save the fax in various picture formats. > Just save as PCX or GIF or BMP... The weatherfax software saves to it's own native format, but can convert to = PCX, GIF or BMP. > No need for SVGA; you only get a bigger > screen, but not more information, because > the fax is only in B&W which the palmtop > can display perfectly. So why does the software have a high resolution setting which only works if = you have a SVGA screen, and why does it receive the weatherfaxes in visibly = higher resolution on my Toshiba than what it is able to do on the palmtop. = If I copy the files received by my HP to the Toshiba, they still can only = be viewed in low resolution. If I copy the files received in high = resolution on the Toshiba to the HP, the same software I use on both = computers is unable to display them. Fact: Wefax is an analogue transmission that sends a high note for white and a = low note for black. It does not send low pulses for black, a black line is = a continuous low note. I know, because I have listened to it on my = shortwave receiver. This would indicate that the difference between high = resolution and low resolution reception is indeed how often the signal is = sampled. The file you downloaded off the net was a scanned image of the weatherfax, = it was not the weatherfax as it is being transmitted by HF radio. It's = quite possibly the same sheet of paper scanned by different hardware and = may even be a totally different resolution from what is sent by the = weatherfax transmitter. Weatherfax is an old analogue system that has nothing at all to do with the = faxmachine in your office. Weatherfax is to your faxmachine what an old = analogue phone is to a digital phone. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:59:49 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Developing on the device MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi again! My keyboard is seeing a lot of traffic these days... :o) I wrote (>>): >> BTW, somebody said the other day that the HPLX >> was the only platform for which it was practicable >> to develop software on the device. > Whoever said that wasn't paying much attention. > The Radio Shack Model 100 and the Epson HX-20 > were probably the first truly portable devices > and most of the 3rd party software developed > for them was developed right on the device itself. I've got two dead Model 100s in my mothers basement. Yes, I wrote quite a = bit of software on it. I also typed a hell of a lot of text on it. It had = one of the best keyboards I've ever seen on a portable device. I used to = take it with me to the beach etc. and work there (on translations) rather = than my stuffy office, and then upload to the desktop when I returned. > But the 200lx does stand out in this catagory. > No other portable platform has the huge variety > of very sophisticated tools to select from. This is not all good. It's nice that a programmer can write for the HP in = the language he is most familiar with, but the other side of the coin is = that for EPOC you only have OPL, C++ and Java, so all the programmers know = the language and it's easier to get help. The fact that the Psions have OPL in ROM also breeds new programmers. = People who might not get into programming on other devices start dabbling = and in many cases end up as competent shareware authors. Many start by = writing macros for the excellent Macro5 task launcher. Macro5 macros are = written in OPL with some extra functions. The vast amount of software = available for EPOC is partly due to the onboard programming language. Another point is that as the programming language is custom written for the = hardware, it is very powerful, and can do a lot of things that you'd = probably have to do in assembler on the LX. Many of the most professional = EPOC applications are developed in OPL on an EPOC device. > No other portable platform that I'm aware of > has so many types on-line documentation to > choose from. Who else has anything like Norton > Guides, HelpPC and thousands of technical > documents in text form? But then maybe EPOC doesn't need all that documentation... :o) > I think the 200lx stands out so much as a > development platform that it might be described > as the Porsche/donkey cart team in this area. I'm not sure if I agree. It's true that if you're not a C++ or Java = programmer, you will have to learn a new language before you start = programming a Psion. However, while I don't know about C++ and Java, OPL is = very easy to learn if you have some previous programming experience, and I = was writing code from day one. For those tasks that need more power than = OPL is capable of there are loads of OPX files (compiled C++ code) with = ready made functions that can be called from OPL. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:00:03 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: HPLX-L v Donkey Carts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! Before slipping into my flameproof suit, I wrote (>>): > The processing power of the Revo is to the > HP200LX like a Porsche is to a donkey cart. Barry wrote (>): > I think we'll all agree that the Porsche is faster > and more powerful than a donkey cart. Untill you > have a load of firewood or 60 bushels of tomatos > to take to market. Which is why it's not really fair to compare a Revo with a LX as lacks = expandability and isn't really aimed at the same marked. The slightly = bigger Psion Series 5, Series 5mx and Ericsson MC218 are more realistic = competitors to the LX. They're a bit like an LX on steroids... An EPOC machine can do almost anything the LX can do and do it a lot = faster. An LX can do almost anything an EPOC machine can do, and wins over = EPOC in networking, but it's a lot slower. I'm not saying you should all = migrate to EPOC, but if someone asked me today what palmtop to buy there'd = be no doubt. The exception being of course if the person needed to network = (or receive weatherfaxes... :o) Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:00:35 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Psions in hospitals (Was Re: PalmPilot) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Dr. Werner Furlan wrote (>): > in my hospital there are quite a number of > Psions around. No single Palmpilot afaik. And > I am the only one with a HP/LX. Most of my > collegues would be a little stressed with the > HP I think because they ususally have very > little basic knowledge of DOS. But I can do > more than they can with the modern machines > and they look somehow impressed when they > see it :-) I think you will find that the main reason you can do so much more on your = HP than your collegues can with their Psions is that you are a more = computer litterate person. AFAIK, there is a lot of doctor and hospital = related Psion software out there. I suggest you point your Psion bearing = collegues towards http://www.pinkworks.com/pda/s5list.html to sign up for the UPS5 list. They will be more than welcome, and there are = several doctors on the list who use Psions for patient records etc. and = could help them increase the productivity of their Psions. > I run our patient software (which is still a Dos program) on > the netware network on the palmtop, can search the 14.000 > ICD10 diagnoses on my palmtop, print via IR to > the Laserjet of our secretary, etc... As I've previously mentioned, the NetBook is at present the only EPOC = machine capable of connecting to a network. The XT-emulator may be able to = run your DOS software and should be faster than a LX on the NetBook, but I = somehow doubt if the emulator supports networking, particularly as it was = written before the NetBook came on the market. This is the one area where = I'll gladly admit the LX wins hands down over EPOC. Personally I don't need = networking, so I'm not bothered. > in my opinion the palmpilot would not serve > me much more than a address book and a > calender in my work. There is no way a PalmPilot can compete with a HPLX or any of the Psions as = a serious computer, but it is a darned handy little device. We expect to = see an EPOC computer in PalmPilot form factor before too long, as when that = arrives, I may buy one, as it would be nice to have access to some of the = same data I use on my MC218 in a device small enough to take with me = everywhere. I don't want a PP though, as I don't want to have to struggle = with converting between different file formats. BTW, it is rumoured that = future EPOC computers will be able to run both EPOC and PP software! Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:50:46 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: Re: 123 or similar question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >I want have the option (in 123, works, star*,..) when I am in >a work-sheet with a grid of cells, that I can have in one cell >a kind of object, which contains the result of another work-sheet. In order to use a value contained in another worksheet, describe the drive, file and cell to call, enclosing drive and file name into double parentheses as in the following example (file name=FILE.WK1, cell=A1) <>A1 Winfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:09:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought I was immune. My present LX came from HP two years ago replacing my hinged cracked unit. Day one, the hinge received a bit of WD40 and has worked very nicely ever since, not to stiff and not loose enough to flop. Last night the right hinge cap was a bit cockeyed, so I pushed it back. Examined closely, not a hint of the dreaded hinge crack. I'm good for years! This morning the right hinge cap was again cockeyed. Better remove it I thought and check it out. My web site or links below show my new LX disease. http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/LXCrack1.jpg http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/LXCrack2.jpg The second photo shows the piece of plastic that held the spring compressed. The case top is probably unrepairable unless JB Weld will fix it (JB Weld has fixed some things I thought were end of the line). WARNING!!! I have babied this machine for 2 years. It rides in a padded case. I usually open the screen slowly. The hinge was not tight. Now the hinge is very quickly disintegrating. *Perhaps* WD40 by chemical something or another caused the hinge to become brittle. This is only a suggestion. Those more knowledgable need to comment. If this is the case, is there a lubricant that will not harm the plastic? Years ago, I used Freon to clean circuit boards. Seemed completely inert. Using a substitute made certain plastics brittle (no, not melting or dissolving) and disintegrate almost upon contact. So much for good ol' Freon. Out comes my spare for now. Bob -- - R.K.Meyer MSEE K7PPC - - Elk Mountain Wyoming - - bmeyer@union-tel.com - http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ - The stone which...Psa 118:22 - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 00:23:08 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: Another 123 Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I want to extract a range of cells from a worksheet into a file, USING A MACRO. The manual approach is FILE/XTRACT/FORMULAS (or values)/NAME of file to extract to/RANGE. QUESTION: HOW CAN I USE THE CONTENTS OF A CELL IN THE SAME WORKSHEET AS A FILE NAME IN A MACRO ? Winfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 08:11:31 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: pnr question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" First of all, I would like to publicly thank Theodore Heise, David Becher and Bob Phillips for getting me jump started with PNR's setup. It was gruesome but they patiently stuck it out with me. Again, THANKS for everything! And now for my general PNR questions. Where's the addressbook? Or do people simply use the aliases listed in the configuration file. Another question. I just created a entry into the Application manager for pnr.exm. However, after every modem run, when I click the entry, I get an error saying the application cannot be found. The only way out is to enter edit mode and without changing anything, press ok then everything works fine when I click the icon again. If I don't go thru a mail run, I can always open the application without any problems. This just happens after every modem run. Anyone else experience this? regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 08:11:34 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: Group Project Comments: To: wallgren@singnet.com.sg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jorgen, Don't know if I have the time and patience to learn another programming language. I remember too about 15 years ago during the prime of my college days that it was difficult to learn it with the weird broken english syntax (as compared to basic or pascal). I don't even know where to start looking for beginner tutorials of turbo c 2.0. Can't stand those new books wherein half the syntax don't work with the old version. You figure for hours why it doesn't work and end up finding out the syntax is not supported by the older version. If I do have the spare time (which I don't have much of) to learn a new language, maybe I will take your challenge. But I would still like a graphics library for quick basic. Oliver >With my background (mechanical engineer with some basic understanding of >BASIC programming- since it was included in my education), I almost >gave up after my first look at the HP EXM development kit. But then I >looked at PAL and C programming, and by reading through many examples >of source code- I got an basic idea how C programming worked and how PAL >assisted the standard C code in order to create the 100/200LX Palmtop >specific functions and graphics. Then I created a small program which >could read my battery level and enable/dissable light sleep. That was >not easy, but I did it. :-) > >Then I found the Japanese NKIT, where all the HP EXM programming files >and setup was very much simplified! So I spent some time in reading the >source code which was included in the NKIT package. The first thing to >do was to install Turbo C 2.0 and NKIT and then try to compile the >included source code. After some testing, I was able to do it. Then I >took the next step and created BASIC.C which compiled will give you >BASIC.EXM. It doesn't do much other that that it worked! :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:05:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theodore Heise" To: Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Quoting > Longden Loo writes: > > FWIW, NetTamer on the LX is my preferred email method, but two teenaged > > daughters at home and their discovery of web-based games makes for small > > windows of opportunity to use the LX there. > I have two teenaged sons at home, and can relate! This is one of the > reasons I use LXTCP/PNR--it gives me the ability to read and write my > e-mail offline, and upload and download during those small windows. The solution is: do not upgrade your desktop!! My old desktop could not handle multimedia very well, but I did not miss it. At my wife's insistence, we just got a 700mhz Compaq system. Now all my two teenage daughters want to do is play web games (I did not know there were so many games on the web before!!). :o) Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 19:09:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Francois Gurin" To: Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:30 PM Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV > Not sure if anyone remembers desqview, but it does run on the 200lx. I > don't know if it will make use of the ems driver (which would be really > useful). on a stock 200, there wasn't enough memory to run more than a > couple of tiny windows. I distinctly recall the Deskview threads here a few years ago, because I went out and got myself a copy, only to find that Deskview can only taskswitch on the hplx, not multitask. > Of course, if you run minix it'll multitask too I don't think ANY program can multitask on the hplx, only task switch. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:46:01 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith In-Reply-To: <3A69EB1B.49E44976@freeport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Yeah, good point. Sorry, I forgot; it requires that I go in and change my >preferences with every post I send, so it's easy to forget - deal with it or >join the 21st century. So you condone bragging about SETI and telling you - "deal with it or join the 21st century"? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 17:59:01 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" In-Reply-To: <3A6A1AC2.DB226A73@union-tel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Robert: At 1/20/01 -0700, you wrote: >I thought I was immune. My present LX came from HP two years ago replacing >my hinged cracked unit. Day one, the hinge received a bit of WD40 and has >worked very nicely ever since, not to stiff and not >loose enough to flop. Then you described (painfully) the disintegration of the hinge. This happened to me a few months ago, in the middle of the night I heard a very loud bang, and immediately following, something that sounded like a small item hitting the ceiling, then another hitting the door. In the morning I found the piece that hit the door, a small plastic piece, unknown to me then. I kept it. Searched more near what I thought the location was where I heard the bang - nothing. Two days later the vaccum cleaner made a rattle, and I fished a piece of plastic, similar to the first, but not looking like it was paired or anything, and a metal spring. It began to dawn and I went for my spare palmtop! Sure enough - no cap (later found near the location of the palmtop), and the hinge looked like yours - totally disintegrated. I can now put together one puzzle - we both have in common that I use WD40 - a minute amount - to loosen up the hinge. It seems it has EATEN the hinge for me, based on the commonality of your hinge looking like mine and the use of WD40. I can now confirm the same experience with WD40 - and the warning to all... Ouch! Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 20:49:54 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Games MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > How bout NYET, a fallin block game > by a koupla of Russians during the > kold war or soon after. Nyet is kind of a variation on the game Qix, but much better. I spent many many hours playing it. What a fun time waster it is. :) The docs with it said it was written by the same guy that wrote Tetris. As much as I loved Tetris, Nyet was better. I'd like to suggest another game called ATC (Air Traffic Controller) that works perfectly on any of the lx's. Even the 95lx. It's totally text based but totally convincing, if not very realistic. Convincing is much better than realistic in a game, I think. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:23:41 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: HPLX-L v Donkey Carts Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Owen H. Morgan" wrote: > Which is why it's not really fair to compare a Revo with a LX as lacks expandability and isn't really aimed at the same marked. The slightly bigger Psion Series 5, Series 5mx and Ericsson MC218 are more realistic competitors to the LX. They're a bit like an LX on steroids... I don't know about the Ericsson MC218 as I've never seen one, but the Psion machines have 3 fatal flaws: 1. You can't read the screen except under ideal conditions at an ideal angle. 2. You can't adjust the screen at all. Two positions, open and closed, and for me the open position is never the ideal angle to see the screen at the point where it's at all readable. 3. The keyboard (as I've mentioned before) is unusable, like "typing on a rubber band". You can pump all the steroids you want into a machine but if it's unusable all the steroids in the world won't make a bit of difference. > An EPOC machine can do almost anything the LX can do and do it a lot faster. An LX can do almost anything an EPOC machine can do, and wins over EPOC in networking, but it's a lot slower. I'm not saying you should all migrate to EPOC, but if someone asked me today what palmtop to buy there'd be no doubt. The exception being of course if the person needed to network (or receive weatherfaxes... :o) The EPOC machine may be a lot faster than the 200LX, but if you have to have to waste a lot of time to find an ideal environment to be able to use the EPOC machine, by the time you crack the thing open the guy with the "slow" 200LX is done and outta there. The 200LX wins hands down. Evan All my opinions, of course, but based on actual practical experience. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:43:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just thought I would share this. There may be an alternative for lubricating the 200LX hinge. Some years back my 4 mb 200LX developed a hinge crack and later the cracked hinge completely separated from the lid. I used some super glue as a fix. It was at this point that I decided to try something that I don't think anyone has mentioned in all the posts about loosening the hinge. I tried one drop of Ivory dish washing soap that can be purchased in any grocery store. I removed the hinge cap, placed one small drop on the hinge, and slowly worked the hinge open and closed to allow the soap to seep down into the mechanism. Wipe any remaining residue off before replacing the hinge cap. The hinge, at first, was very loose but the soap eventually dried out in a week or so and provided the perfect hinge friction, not too loose and very easy to open. The hinge has not separated again after all these years and the original one drop of soap still provides the perfect lubrication to this day. More importantly, there is no deterioration of the plastic case. If you get too much soap in the hinge it will flop open and not stay open in one position. Use one drop of alcohol; I prefer a good brandy . This will cause the soap to dry out more quickly. This worked for me. William E. Blankenship > I can now confirm the same experience with WD40 - and the warning to all... > > Ouch! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:52:33 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? A Meshar writes: > I can now confirm the same experience with WD40 - and the warning to all... WD40 is primarily a solvent, not a lubricant. I'm generally pretty cautious with solvents and plastics--some of them do amazing things. To loosen my 200LX hinge I've used a tiny bit of light machine oil. So far over three years and no problems. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:01:47 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: pnr question Oliver Chua writes: > And now for my general PNR questions. Where's the addressbook? Or do > people simply use the aliases listed in the configuration file. I used the aliases for a while--they work well, but are a pain to add to. The method I use now is a custom database which I cut and paste from in conjunction with PNR's dialog boxes. I use the box that comes up for replying to extract a name, and then escape out of the reply and paste the name into my database. For composing, I have to remember to copy the name from the database with PNR open, but *before* bringing up the compose dialog box. I've got a field for name (for alphabetizing and searching the list), a field for subsets, and a field for the e-mail address. I also have a little smart clip that pulls out and formats the info as: Ted Heise > edit mode and without changing anything, press ok then everything works > fine when I click the icon again. If I don't go thru a mail run, I can > always open the application without any problems. This just happens after > every modem run. Anyone else experience this? No ideas on this. Do you have PNR assigned to Alt-Memo? Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:42:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Neill Currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neill Currie Subject: Re: Hinge disintigration MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmmmm, I have to use a particular grease on the stanchions of my mountain bike fork because there are plastic seals there, and standard Lithium-based grease degrades plastics. The stuff is called "Slick Honey" by Englund, and Silkolene also makes an equivalent: RG-2. Maybe a spot of this stuff would lube but not damage? Neill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:41:02 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After Avi's comment, I decided the spring was like a time bomb especially with my nearsidedness that allows me to examine things close up without glasses. So fiddling with the spring still intact, it capatulted the remaining piece of end plastic to who knows where. Now the hinge is somewhat relieved from stress, the cracks in the plastic surrounding the spring closed up. It all still flexes alot. I removed the spring and have a somewhat floppy/sloppy lid. However, the screen will still stay in any position without the spring. I put the end cap back on and all looks as good as new with the lid working like it is supposed to and nearly as tight before the disintegration. I know some units when lubed do not stay in the desired position. Mine does without the spring. With Thaddeus getting case tops, can the spring be left out for longer life? It appears that the spring also acts as a bushing and could be replaced by a solid bushing without the worry of spring pressure? Just some thoughts. Bob -- - R.K.Meyer MSEE K7PPC - - Elk Mountain Wyoming - - bmeyer@union-tel.com - http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ - The stone which...Psa 118:22 - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:45:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? Comments: To: WEB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > anyone has mentioned in all the posts about loosening the hinge. I tried > one drop of Ivory dish washing soap that can be purchased in any grocery I like this. In fact, I rub wood screws in hand soap so they screw into wood easier. And wax, don't know how, but you know what waxed paper does to slides on the playground... Thanks for the input. Bob -- - R.K.Meyer MSEE K7PPC - - Elk Mountain Wyoming - - bmeyer@union-tel.com - http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ - The stone which...Psa 118:22 - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 23:02:02 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's not what I said. Leaving my VCard enabled for those posts was a simple mistake. Posting all of this nonsense about one's SET stats is purely intentional. If you'll notice, I've turned the VCard off. Maybe now we can turn off the fluff... sponsor@ftel.net wrote: > >Yeah, good point. Sorry, I forgot; it requires that I go in and change my > >preferences with every post I send, so it's easy to forget - deal with it or > >join the 21st century. > > So you condone bragging about SETI and telling you - "deal with it or join > the 21st century"? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:52:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: FS: US Robotics 28.8 Kbps PCMCIA modem Comments: To: John Menard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought I would get the off list discussion back on list since it may be of interest. John Menard wrote: > > I'm also using the 3cxm556. I don't stay online for too long when using my > 200lx so I haven't really noticed if it gets too warm or not. In my Notebook > computer it can get pretty hot but has never failed or caused any damage. Is there anything special to setting up the 3Com 3CXM556? DOS pcmcia drivers, etc? Com2 I presume? Will WWW/LX just take off with it? > My usrobotics xj4288 didn't work at all in the 200lx, kept freezing the > system up. > > >From: bmeyer@union-tel.com (Robert K. Meyer) > >To: John Menard > >Subject: Re: FS: US Robotics 28.8 Kbps PCMCIA modem > >Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:38:17 -0700 > > > >Which 3com are you using? I have the 3CXM556 which will work with cell > >phones. Gets warm in my OB800. > > > >Bob > > > >John Menard wrote: > > > > > > I have the yellow one with the x-jack. I upgraded it to 33.6. It does > >not > > > work with my unit. It draws too much power and crashes the unit. > > > Interestingly enough I have the 56k 3-com x-jack and it works great. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 08:24:26 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Re: Quoting Comments: To: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE In-Reply-To: <3A632A310005773C@mail.epost.de> (added by postmaster@mail.epost.de) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I only can agree on that what Stefan wrote !! Michael -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sent: Samstag, Januar 20, 2001 16.00 Uhr To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Quoting Lately the majority of list members switched to quoting after answering the subject. Did I miss any agreement about this? To me, it's still very confusing to get an answer without knowing the question. But this seems to be bad habit in todays human communication anyway, and the internet is only a mirror of this speedy life. But speed is not always good, especially if it comes to thinking. One explanation is for sure, that only an insignificant minority of list members still uses the palmtop and related software to access this list. This is a very bad sign indeed! Those who quote after giving the answer often pick up the subject anyway, because they seem to feel, that they cannot start writing without explaining about what they are going to write. In those cases, the quoting is superfluous. This applies to about 80% of all postings of the last days. SUGGESTION: If you intend to quote after your text, consider to not quote at all. Re:... in the subject line is often sufficient. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 08:33:36 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: RoboNews error message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Time Out > Line 16 in file > C:\PostLX\Scr\NNTPAUTH.scx > > It sounds like it's timing out during authentication, but I double-check= ed to > make sure my login & password are okay. Any ideas on where I can look = for > errors? I've tried setting this thing up from scratch about a dozen = times.. > I'm using version 3 of the latest WWW/LX suite from DA Soft, and my ISP = is > Earthlink. Did it work before you got this timeout error. Sometimes the newsserver has glitches and robonews_has_to_timeout. In that case patience is agood fix ;-) HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:16:49 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adriaan van Nijendaal Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adriaan van Nijendaal Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith In-Reply-To: <3A692F4A.64C5820C@freeport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:25 20-01-01, Richard and Patti Smith wrote: >(...) are now clogging >up the list (...) Dear Richard, Wouldn't it be great if you sent us e-mail without a *.vcf file attached to every message? Adriaan ----------------------------------------------------------- Adriaan van Nijendaal mailto://adriaan@wanadoo.be North 50 deg 18.7018' East 5 deg 48.8377' Lierneux Belgium http://web.wanadoo.be/adriaan Belgium-Australia BMW R1100GS ----------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:24:28 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: 123 or similar question Comments: To: Winfried Zettelmeyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote: > <>A1 ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi Thanks all, it's working. But an additional question: Which tab-cals on an PC are compatible with this feature? K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 04:40:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Menard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Menard Subject: Re: FS: US Robotics 28.8 Kbps PCMCIA modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >From: "Robert K. Meyer" >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , >"Robert K. Meyer" >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: FS: US Robotics 28.8 Kbps PCMCIA modem >Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:52:47 -0700 > >I thought I would get the off list discussion back on list since it may be >of interest. > >John Menard wrote: > > > > I'm also using the 3cxm556. I don't stay online for too long when using >my > > 200lx so I haven't really noticed if it gets too warm or not. In my >Notebook > > computer it can get pretty hot but has never failed or caused any >damage. > >Is there anything special to setting up the 3Com 3CXM556? DOS pcmcia >drivers, etc? Com2 I presume? Will WWW/LX just take off with it? Nothing special at all. I used the evaluation copy of WWW/LX and it worked fine. I mostly dial into a text based internet account using a terminal application. > > > My usrobotics xj4288 didn't work at all in the 200lx, kept freezing the > > system up. > > > > >From: bmeyer@union-tel.com (Robert K. Meyer) > > >To: John Menard > > >Subject: Re: FS: US Robotics 28.8 Kbps PCMCIA modem > > >Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:38:17 -0700 > > > > > >Which 3com are you using? I have the 3CXM556 which will work with cell > > >phones. Gets warm in my OB800. > > > > > >Bob > > > > > >John Menard wrote: > > > > > > > > I have the yellow one with the x-jack. I upgraded it to 33.6. It >does > > >not > > > > work with my unit. It draws too much power and crashes the unit. > > > > Interestingly enough I have the 56k 3-com x-jack and it works great. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:20:36 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob, > I have babied this machine for 2 years. It rides in a padded case. I usually open the screen slowly. The hinge was not tight. Now the hinge is very quickly disintegrating. *Perhaps* WD40 by chemical something or another caused the hinge to become brittle. This is only a suggestion. Those more knowledgable need to comment. If this is the case, is there a lubricant that will not harm the plastic? I'm a plastic engineer and might be able to check. What is the active lubricating chemical of WD40 - it should be noted on the package. Does anybody on the list know for sure what plastic is used for the housing and cap - I guess it is either Polycarbonat or ABS. Hal : what are your instructions from HP for the housing mold that they will send you - what type of material should be used for molding ? HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 12:20:38 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi, > I can now put together one puzzle - we both have in common that I use = WD40 > - a minute amount - to loosen up the hinge. It seems it has EATEN the = hinge > for me, based on the commonality of your hinge looking like mine and = the > use of WD40. Which part broke - the hinge cap ore some interior part or ... I don't know how it looks like as it never happened to me. I don't apply chemicals either as I'm aware about an old wisdom: "similis similibu= r sulvuntur". I had to fix a loose hinge once by tightening the housing screw - remember the exchange with you. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:48:44 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Longden Loo wrote: > An agreement, on this list, would be noteworthy indeed. One agreement which I hope everybody can accept is to keep this list as palmtop friendly as possible. By palmtop friendly I not only mean the subjects we are talking about, but the ability to follow this list and contribute to the list on a palmtop with a palmtop email program. If this cannot be done any longer that would be indeed the beginning of the end. Palmtop friendly is for example: -64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading -no HTML attachments -no full quoting -no vcards Some of us download their email to the palmtop with slow PCMCIA modems or expensive mobile phone connections. Every saved KB is helpful in this respect. For example it is more likely that I can download a 20KB digest while waiting for the subway than a 54KB digest. We read the list on our way to work and/or back. If we cannot do that any longer, we probably give up, because we don't have (don't want to spend) the time to access the list in the evening from a desktop instead of enjoying our families. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:48:47 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G=FCnther Eisele wrote: > "tofu"-quotingsÝ1¨ > Ý1¨ "Text oben, follquote unten" =3D "text above, fullquote follows" I didn't know this one. I only knew "Vollquotl" which sounds almost like "Volltrottel" in German. A Vollquotl is someone who does full quotes and a Volltrottel translates to "complete fool". The similarity is indeed intended. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:48:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Owen H. Morgan wrote: > why does it receive the weatherfaxes in visibly higher resolution on my = Toshiba > than what it is able to do on the palmtop. I guess you mean by higher resolution that you get on the Toshiba a 1024x768 pixel image whereas you get on the palmtop a 640x200 image, but both images are still in black & white and carry the same information. > The file you downloaded off the net was a scanned image of the weatherfa= x, > it was not the weatherfax as it is being transmitted by HF radio. But Werner sent me 2 weatherfax files, and both were also black & white FAX files. But I think I should stop contributing to this thread, because I feel like adding more confusion than helping to clear the situation. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 07:33:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Quoting Comments: To: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Palmtop friendly is for example: > > -64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading > -no HTML attachments > -no full quoting > -no vcards I just switched my line length to 64. Thanks for the reminder as I have not been using the LX to receive mail. Bob -- - R.K.Meyer MSEE K7PPC - - Elk Mountain Wyoming - - bmeyer@union-tel.com - http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ - The stone which...Psa 118:22 - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 10:17:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I forgot to mention that I also had the HP ATA 5 meg flash ram card installed in my 1mb 200LX with Works 2.0 installed on this card. As Nathalie pointed out, I should have mentioned this. Thank you Nathalie ;). WEB -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Original Snippet Below -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >William, dear >> the first time I brought my new 200LX 1mb single speed to work. >> using MS-Works 2.0 for DOS, started producing formated >I have Works 1.8 (1.8mb) and 2.0a (2.8mb) - how did you fit them on a 1mb unit? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 07:15:23 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: Re: RoboNews error message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Time Out > > Line 16 in file > > C:\PostLX\Scr\NNTPAUTH.scx > > > Did it work before you got this timeout error. Sometimes the newsserver > has glitches and robonews_has_to_timeout. In that case patience is > agood fix ;-) > > HP Staber/Salzburg No, unfortunately I've never been able to connect to my newsserver using RoboNews. I've never been able to get past authentication.. Any way I can increase the timeout default within RoboNews? Thanks David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 09:19:28 -0600 Reply-To: palmtop@n-link.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all. An "Outlook question," but related(!). I've set up the list as a contact in my Outlook address book and checked the "send using plain text" option in the entry (so it *should* always change messages from "Outlook Rich Text" to plain text, when sending--apologies in advance, if it doesn't this time), but I don't see a way to set the line length. Any ideas? (Sending this one without extra "carriage returns" to see where the listserver breaks the message). I *can* use various text editors to format my message and then cut and paste..... I fully agree about the irritation of "full quotes." I usually receive the digest on my LX and subscribe to a PR forum where folks still hit reply just to say "Me too" and they leave two or three quoted messages, w/ ">" marks below their one-line reply!!! Ack!! --tim ---------------- Tim Raymond Public Relations, Media Relations, Corporate Training Killeen, TX --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 07:51:41 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Quoting Comments: To: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE In-Reply-To: <3A632A3100062282@mail.epost.de> (added by postmaster@mail.epost.de) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Stefan, >Palmtop friendly is for example: > >-64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading >-no HTML attachments >-no full quoting >-no vcards I'd like to make a little plaque of this! And BTW, how about applying it to ALL email communications? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:12:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010120175041.00a19e30@mail.alwaysafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I can now confirm the same experience with WD40 - and the warning >>to all... isn't there a warning on the bottle in fine print about wd40 and plastic? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:39:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: 123 or similar question Comments: To: Klaus Reinhardt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Klaus Reinhardt wrote: >But an additional question: Which tab-cals >on an PC are compatible with this feature? What is a tab-cal? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:17:46 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I don't think ANY program can multitask > on the hplx, only task switch There's nothing inherent about the hplx that prevents multitasking. A lot of programs do it, including some I've written. Most games that have sound that doesn't stop when something moves or you press a key are multitasking. Actually, today that's often called threading. But it's time slicing, pure and simple. It's done in the same way that linux does it. Although it doesn't need the flexibility of linux. There are a fixed number of tasks needed to produce music and animation and scheduling and prioritizing can usually be trivial. Still, this is multitasking in the old sense of the word, which includes what we call multitasking today and multiple threads. If you write linux for the lx, it can multitask in the same way it does on a pentium. It has all that's needed. On the other hand, it's not surprising that most shells (such as the versions of windows and deskview that run on the lx) don't do that on an xt. There isn't much speed to spare and there's a fair amount of overhead in true multitasking with complex priorititizing and scheduling. On a single user system there isn't normally a reason to add that overhead. That said, I'll be surprised if there isn't some os that will run or can easily be adapted to the 200lx that does true multitasking. I suspect Minix does, although I don't actually know that. My first home computer was a Radio Shack Color Computer that had 64k ram and a 0.8 mhz 8 bit cpu. There was an os sold for it called OS-9 (from Microware) that was modelled after unix but greatly simplified. It could multitask, multithread, etc. Once, as an experiment we connected 2 terminals, logged on and had one session running at the console and one at each terminal. It worked beautifully as long as none of us did much. There was no virtual memory and very little real memory. But one of us could run a word processor while both of the others were copying files or some such. It was possible for all 3 of us to run the word processor at the same time as long as the files being edited were fairly small. By the way, OS-9 itself only used up 22k ram. It shipped on a 160k disk with another disk of assembly development tools and utilities. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:35:55 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Either Richard or Patti Smith wrote about his or her vcard (>): > Yeah, good point. Sorry, I forgot; it requires > that I go in and change my preferences with > every post I send, so it's easy to forget - deal > with it or join the 21st century. Apologgy accepted, but I'd suggest _you_ deal with it by permanently = changing the preferences in your software. There is no need to send vcards = with every e-mail to the list or your other contacts. If you feel that you = need to distribute your vcard to all your contacts, I suggest sending it = once to a new contact and again if the details change. It certainly does = not belong on a mailing list and for those of us who receive the digest, it = contributes along with HTML e-mails and winmail.dat files to making it less = readable. You might also bear in mind that quite a few people receive the = digest via slow cell-phone modems and pay quite a bit of money for that = slow online time. Everyone: Please quote as little as possible. In my opinion sending e-mails to the = list with 4-5 levels of quotes is quite simply DAMNED RUDE! Please do not send _any_ attachments to the list. No HTML, no vcards and no = winmail.dat! Thanks I'll go away now... Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:36:16 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! Bob Meyer wrote (>): > *Perhaps* WD40 by chemical something or > another caused the hinge to become brittle. I think that is very likely. IIRC WD40 contains among other things kerosene = and oil. Kerosene is a solvent which I've used amongst other things for = cleaning paint brushes and thinning paint at a pinch. I'm surprised your LX = lasted this long. > If this is the case, is there a lubricant that will > not harm the plastic? I'd suggest silicone lubricant. Either a spray, or grease. You can get the = silicone grease from dive shops. Just make sure you don't spill any where = you don't want it, as it's difficult to remove. If using a spray to = lubricate the HP hinges, I'd suggest spraying a bit of tissue paper and use = that to lubricate the hinge. I use silicone lubricants for just about = everything on the boat these days and absolutely swear by it. BTW, I have used WD40 as a "starting gas" for diesel engines, and it works = very well and a lot safer than the starting gas cans you buy at gas = stations, which can blow the cylinder head off a diesel engine. (Correct procedure if you ever _have to_ use one of those for a diesel is = to make sure the engine is cranking before you spray. That way you don't = risk getting too much in one gulp, which can lead to detonation.) Well, at least half my message was on topic, and I didn't quote more than I = needed to... :o) Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 13:03:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 12:17 PM Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV > > I don't think ANY program can multitask > > on the hplx, only task switch > > There's nothing inherent about the hplx that prevents multitasking. > A lot of programs do it, including some I've written. Most games > that have sound that doesn't stop when something moves or you press > a key are multitasking. Perhaps I should have said that I don't think any program can be made to multitask on the hplx with a multitasker or OS, only task switch. That's what I was referring to. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 11:16:08 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Adriaan van Nijendaal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this has been discussed - and resolved - already. Adriaan van Nijendaal wrote: > At 07:25 20-01-01, Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > >(...) are now clogging > >up the list (...) > > Dear Richard, > > Wouldn't it be great if you sent us e-mail without a *.vcf file attached to > every message? > > Adriaan > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Adriaan van Nijendaal mailto://adriaan@wanadoo.be > North 50 deg 18.7018' East 5 deg 48.8377' Lierneux Belgium > http://web.wanadoo.be/adriaan Belgium-Australia BMW R1100GS > ----------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 13:53:10 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: pnr question Oliver Chua writes: > And now for my general PNR questions. Where's the addressbook? Or do > people simply use the aliases listed in the configuration file. With PNR version 3.6 I use my phonebook as my address book using smart clip to copy email addresses from the phone book into the relevant fields of the email form. I place email addresses in the "Alternate" field in the phone book and have a smart clip which I called name and email which clips the data as Name > Another question. I just created a entry into the Application manager for > pnr.exm. However, after every modem run, when I click the entry, I get an > error saying the application cannot be found. Are you by any chance deleting a:\apname.lst or c:\apname.lst? When you go online PNR should be closed and nothing you do online should modify Application manager. If you using a PC card modem, and have pnr installed on drive a: of a Memory card, this could be your problem. David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:46:07 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Games Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > I'd like to suggest another game called ATC (Air Traffic Controller) > that works perfectly on any of the lx's. Even the 95lx. It's > totally text based but totally convincing, if not very realistic. > Convincing is much better than realistic in a game, I think. Could I get a copy of your ATC game for my 200LX? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:46:11 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert K. Meyer wrote: > And wax, don't know how, but you know what waxed paper > does to slides on the playground... No, what? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:46:13 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE wrote: > Palmtop friendly is for example: > > -64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading I didn't know 64 was the recommended length. I'll change my editor's wrap margin to 64 (from 72). Thanks for the reminder... Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:51:13 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Do you know where I could find the old XT compatible version of Desqview? > I'd really like to try using it on my HP200LX. It was so incredibly > powerful in a DOS environment. I probably have some of my original disks for it somewhere - possibly even 5 inch disks!! My old Gateway (their first 486) is still set to boot to deskview and open 4 windows - one the Boyan/modem window. Unfortunately, the gateway loses its cmos settings regularly - I guess I need a battery replacement - and with that hard disk parms. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:51:17 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: key sequences for Citizen PN60 pocket printer Comments: To: "thomas e. nemeth" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hi All, > > After moving back Stateside, I am unable to find my Citizen PN60 pocket > printer manual. It controls its settings through key sequencing on the You might try their website. I've noticed more and more companies are providing their user manuals (including some older ones) in pdf format. I was able to help my dad setup his new tv by downloading the manual at this end and walking him through setup over the phone. Maybe that older printer is on their site. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:47:04 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV Comments: To: matrix@SHOT.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010119143053.C8666@shot.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can Desqview be downloaded from anywhere? TIA Tony. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Francois Gurin Sent: Saturday, 20 January 2001 08:31 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 08:03:37PM +0100, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > Obviously, the kid knew nothing. He's holding it wrong... ya gotta do the > > thumb thing, kid! > > Small fingers can handle the keyboard better :-) > > In any case, the LX has never been a "multitasking notebook computer", > just task switching... Not sure if anyone remembers desqview, but it does run on the 200lx. I don't know if it will make use of the ems driver (which would be really useful). on a stock 200, there wasn't enough memory to run more than a couple of tiny windows. Of course, if you run minix it'll multitask too i think calling it a notebook is much more offensive :) --francois ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:52:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Menard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Menard Subject: Icons Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hey, I'm still a newbie when it comes to the 200lx. I need to know how to install icons on my unit. Everytime I add a program I only get the choice of the default icons. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:28:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Schindler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Schindler Subject: Carry Case MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for a carrying case that clips onto my belt for the LX. I found a post from May 4, 1999 in the archives that brought me to the following page: http://www.dxmarket.com/casetech/products/207-HP200.html The post is from F. Kaufman, http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/9905/msg00106.html , and mentions that it is well made; it looks well made. Does anyone else have any other options? Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:53:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , James Grenert Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Grenert Subject: Infoselect database size MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello. There was a question some time ago about limitation in database size with InfoSelect; I don't think it was answered (forgive me if this has already been covered). As far as I know, the only limitation is processor speed, which makes searching impractical beyond something like 4 MB. If you have EMS available, you can use it to load very large databases greater in size than just conventional memory. I regularly use an 800K database of random medical information that I boot from SysManager with the line: is.exe n|140 The default IS setting is to not use EMS. To change this, set the following in IS: Adjust-Room-AllowEMS I seem to recall that the TSR version of IS was problematic (impossible?) to use on the LX, but the non-TSR runs just fine. The only thing I wish was different was the ability to have it open with other DOS programs. For reasons not known by me, I would get fairly frequent crashes with IS and Software Carousel, which led to my unloading SC from my LX. Hope this is useful. J. P. Grenert grenert@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:58:48 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , James Grenert Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Grenert Subject: Older version of FFDB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi. Does anyone have an older (i.e., version 2.0) version of the FFDB database program? The version on SUPER is the old, original 1.0 version, and the one on hplx.net is the last 2.02 version. However, v2.02 seems to have a defective search engine, unlike 2.0. Thanks for any help. J. P. Grenert grenert@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:59:47 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: HPLX-L v Donkey Carts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Evan wrote (>): > I don't know about the Ericsson MC218 as I've > never seen one, Apart from a couple of extra onboard applications and the colour of the = case, It's identical to the Psion Series 5mx. > but the Psion machines have 3 fatal flaws: > 1. You can't read the screen except under ideal > conditions at an ideal angle. Maybe you can't, but certainly I can read the screen very well in my dimly = lit boat, on a bus, on a train and wherever else I happen to find myself. = The screen on the original Series 5 (non mx) wasn't quite as good, but = certainly as good as the HP200LX screen without the backlight, and a lot = better with backlighting. > 2. You can't adjust the screen at all. Two > positions, open and > closed, and for me the open position is never the > ideal angle to > see the screen at the point where it's at all > readable. I hardly ever use the palmtop on a table, but tried it now, and found the = screen angle perfect. In fact, I tried leaning forwards and back to see if = I could make it unreadable, but found it is readable from any angle it = would be realistic to type on the keyboard. > 3. The keyboard (as I've mentioned before) is > unusable, like "typing on a rubber band". The problem with this statement is that I am typing my reply on that same = "unusable" keyboard. I do a lot of writing, and have not typed on any other = computer for the past three years. I'm not as fast as some secretaries, but = I'm as fast as I used to be on a full size keyboard. If you look through = the HPLX mailing list archives you'll find lots of messages written by me = (some would say way to many...) They were all typed at good speed on the = keyboard you chose to call unusable. Since I'm typing on it now and typing = a hell of a lot faster than I could ever hope to achieve on my HPLX, it is = very clearly usable! > The EPOC machine may be a lot faster than the > 200LX, but > if you have to have to waste a lot of time to find > an ideal environment > to be able to use the EPOC machine, by the time > you crack the thing > open the guy with the "slow" 200LX is done and > outta there. I never "waste time" looking for a perfect environment to use my MC218. = I've found my perfect environment a long time ago. It's the corner of the = settee on my boat with my feet up and the palmtop resting on my knees and = supported by my thumbs. In this position, I use six fingers to type at good = speed. When I'm away from the boat, I just pull it out wherever I am. = (Oops... :o) Unlike the HPLX, I can even turn on the backlight and use it = in the dark. > The 200LX wins hands down. > All my opinions, of course, but based on actual > practical experience. About ten minutes of it I presume? I've been using first the Psion Series 5 = and then the Ericsson MC218 an average of three hours every single day for = the past three years. Based on _my_ practical experience, the keyboard is = great and the screen is not perfect, but perfectly usable and better than = the screen on my HP200LX. Only slightly better without the backlight, but a = hell of a lot better with backlighting. The REVO has a very good screen. = Better than both the Series 5mx / MC218 and HPLX, but no backlighting. BTW, The latest rumours about new EPOC devices are that in 2001, Psion will = release a Palm Pilot lookalike, a REVO with onboard GSM phone (I wonder if = this is really a rebadged Nokia 9210) and a new Series 5mx. All of these = will have TFT colour screens. Apart from that, we expect to see new = hardware from other members of the Symbian alliance. PS. When I spellchecked this message, I did find a couple of errors, but = none of them were due to missed keys on this "unusable" keyboard. Clearly, you are a HPLX user and you are used to the HPLX keyboard. If you = try any other palmtop keyboard for only a few minutes, you will probably = find that you can't type as fast as you do on the LX. All palmtop keyboards = take a little getting used to because the key spacing is different, the = positions of some keys are different and the tactile feel is different. If = you used a Psion S5mx for a month, I'm sure you'd find yourself typing = faster than you'd ever dreamed of being able to do on a palmtop! Soapbox mode off... Owen --=20 * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 15:53:58 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? Comments: To: HP Staber In-Reply-To: <200101211119.f0LBJ1200362@pop-a.netway.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hans Peter, At 1/21/01 +0100, you wrote: >Which part broke - more like melted... It was the part that surrounds the metal pin of the clutch assembly. It is usually under the cap. You can slip the cap off by forcing it with a fingernail - first on one side, then the other, and it comes off. A fair amount of resistance. Looking at the hinge from the side of the palmtop, you will see a metal core shaped a bit like a cone, surrounded by a split plastic part. That melted away... >an old wisdom: "similis similibur sulvuntur". Aha yes, the old chemistry saying: "For the pig, Latin is like poetry!" :> (I made this up!) >I had to fix a loose hinge once by tightening the housing screw - >remember the exchange with you. Huh? The hinge we are talking about has no screws to tighten. I am not quite sure what you refer to. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 16:01:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Quoting Comments: To: Russel Brooks In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Russ, At 1/21/01 +0000, you wrote: >stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE wrote: > > Palmtop friendly is for example: > > > > -64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading > >I didn't know 64 was the recommended length. I'll change my editor's wrap >margin to 64 (from 72). The palmtop can display 64 chars in 18 lines in the middle font. (Actually Stefan is the discoverer of a fourth font - a tiny one...) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:25:45 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: pnr question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >the name into my database. For composing, I have to remember to copy >the name from the database with PNR open, but *before* bringing up the >compose dialog box. Does that mean the cut-copy-paste works in the compose dialog box? I didn't know you could do that. >> edit mode and without changing anything, press ok then everything works >> fine when I click the icon again. If I don't go thru a mail run, I can >> always open the application without any problems. This just happens after >> every modem run. Anyone else experience this? > >No ideas on this. Do you have PNR assigned to Alt-Memo? No, I have PNR assigned to Alt-F2. The key assignment is arbitrary for me since I never use it. I always use the arrow keys to point to the icon and press enter to fire up the program. Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:48:04 -0500 Reply-To: Ron Stalma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Stalma Subject: Deskview Here & hinge problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can download desqview 2.7 here. http://www.demense.freeserve.co.uk/dos/ Also for anyone interested, I used a drop of mineral oil on my hinge and never had any problem since. Enjoy Ron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:00:52 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Icons Comments: To: John Menard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John Menard wrote: > I'm still a newbie when it comes to the 200lx. I need to know how to > install icons on my unit. Everytime I add a program I only get the choice of > the default icons. If the .ICN file exists in the same directory with the program file (.COM/.EXE) at the time it is being installed in the Appmgr it should be offerred as an ICN selection. The ICN file must also have the same Fn as the program file. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:17:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:23:11 -0500 (EST) I would like to add a 3 line limit (not including spacer) on "signatures". I reduced mine to 2 lines sometime ago as suggested by members on this LIST. Cheers...AJKind 09h34m27s ago Stefan Wrote... > ... > One agreement which I hope everybody can accept is to keep this > list as palmtop friendly as possible... > Palmtop friendly is for example: > > -64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading > -no HTML attachments > -no full quoting > -no vcards > > ... * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 02:19:48 +0100 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: 123 or similar question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken London wrote: > ÝKlaus Reinhardt wrote: ... tab-cals ...¨ > What is a tab-cal? I guess this was meant to be an abbreviation for "Tabellen Kalkulation", the german expression for spreadsheet +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:47:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Kind" To: Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Quoting Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:23:11 -0500 (EST) 09h34m27s ago Stefan Wrote... > -64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading Agreed. How do you do that in Outlook Express? TIA Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:51:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Infoselect database size MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Grenert" To: Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: Infoselect database size > I seem to recall that the TSR version of IS was problematic > (impossible?) to use on the LX, but the non-TSR runs just > fine. The only thing I wish was different was the ability > to have it open with other DOS programs. For reasons not > known by me, I would get fairly frequent crashes with IS > and Software Carousel, which led to my unloading SC from my > LX. I have had the same experience with Dosshell and IS. IS and SWAPIS (included with IS) works really well in TSR mode. HTH Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:57:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Quoting Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-V In-Reply-To: <005f01c08415$507505c0$45696c40@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > -64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading > > Agreed. How do you do that in Outlook Express? Look under Options / Send / Plain Text Settings and of course make sure that for Mail Sending Format that Plain Text is selected. Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:55:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Palmtops and tropical weather. Was: Re: Unresponsive keys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have always wondered what are peoples experiences using their palmtops in tropical weather over long periods. Any more comments? Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorgen Wallgren" To: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Unresponsive keys Living in a country with a very high humidity (Singapore), I have seen how connectors such as the power connector, on the 200LX can get a heavy corrosion- so I have always assumed that this is what happens when I see the problem- so by 'massaging' they key- it became ok again- except ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:00:40 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Quoting In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > -64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading > > > > Agreed. How do you do that in Outlook Express? > > Look under Options / Send / Plain Text Settings > > and of course make sure that for Mail Sending Format that Plain > Text is selected. Sorry, that should be Tools / Options / Send / Plain Text Settings ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:01:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Domingo Diaz-V" Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Quoting > > > -64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading > > Agreed. How do you do that in Outlook Express? > Look under Options / Send / Plain Text Settings > and of course make sure that for Mail Sending Format that Plain > Text is selected. Thanks for the answer. While on this subject, I have discovered that if the post I am responding to has the answer before the post it is answering to, OE will not use quotes automatically. Any solution to that? Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:15:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Schindler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Schindler Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > -64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading > > Agreed. How do you do that in Outlook Express? > Tools -> Options -> Send -> Plain Text Settings ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:22:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Quoting Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-V In-Reply-To: <008f01c08417$4505dbe0$45696c40@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > -64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading > > > Agreed. How do you do that in Outlook Express? > > Look under Options / Send / Plain Text Settings > > and of course make sure that for Mail Sending Format that > Plain > > Text is selected. > > Thanks for the answer. > While on this subject, I have discovered that if the post I am > responding > to has the answer before the post it is answering to, OE will > not use > quotes automatically. Any solution to that? Sorry, I've only used OE for sending email in the past couple years. And then only because it does a decent job of sending HTML formatted email (which I only do when my boss forces me). On the Tools / Options / Send screen you might try unchecking "Reply to messages using the format in which they were sent." but I seem to recall reading this is a "feature" (bug) of OE. Regards, Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:44:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick west Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick west Subject: Re: Carry Case Comments: To: Scott Schindler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use & love the Ripoffs Brand case. Scott Schindler wrote: > > I am looking for a carrying case that clips onto my belt for > the LX. I found a post from May 4, 1999 in the archives > that brought me to the following page: > http://www.dxmarket.com/casetech/products/207-HP200.html > > The post is from F. Kaufman, > http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/9905/msg00106.html , and > mentions that it is well made; it looks well made. > > Does anyone else have any other options? > > Scott > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 03:14:14 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Quoting Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > The palmtop can display 64 chars in 18 lines in the middle font. (Actually > Stefan is the discoverer of a fourth font - a tiny one...) Actually, I believe, Jeff Mattox, of Buddy fame also discovered that font for use on the function keys. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:25:56 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Palmtops and tropical weather. Was: Re: Unresponsive keys Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-V MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > I have always wondered what are peoples experiences > using their palmtops in tropical weather over long periods. > Any more comments? I used my 200LX in Malaysia for 2 - 3 years. I carried it in a padded nylon bag inside my backpack, as I travelled mostly by motorcycle. It still looks great, no sign of corrosion anywhere. But I was very careful never to get it wet. The house I was living in didn't have air conditioning, although the office I worked at did. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:50:21 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: ohmorgan@INAME.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In reply to Owen H. Morgan, et al: > Either Richard or Patti Smith wrote about his or her vcard (>): If you were paying attention, you'd know who it is. > Apologgy accepted, Thanks. > but I'd suggest _you_ deal with it by permanently changing the preferences in your software. There is > no need to send vcards with every e-mail to the list or your other contacts. If you feel that you need > to distribute your vcard to all your contacts, I suggest sending it once to a new contact and again if the > details change. It certainly does not belong on a mailing list and for those of us who receive the digest, > it contributes along with HTML e-mails and winmail.dat files to making it less readable. You might also > bear in mind that quite a few people receive the digest via slow cell-phone modems and pay quite a bit > of money for that slow online time. Why should I change the way I use my software just to make your (or anyones else's) life easier? (What have you done to improve my life?) It is YOUR choice to connect via a slow cell-phone modem. Despite my love and use of the DOS-based HP 200LX, it makes more sense for me to send HTML e-mail and vCards. As Mr. Spock would say: the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Besides, I receive the digest (sometimes on my 200LX) and have no problems with it. I suggest a bit more patience from those on the list when a person makes a simple mistake and forgets to turn off their vCard! > Please do not send _any_ attachments to the list. No HTML, no vcards and no winmail.dat! So what about 9-line signatures? (See below.) Are they OK? Do you have to send all that information with every e-mail? How many more bytes would that add to a digest download if every list member did it? It seems to me that a line or two would suffice. As you can tell, I'm getting a little annoyed by all of this! Richard > -- > * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * > * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * > > Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 > @ Sigerfjord in Vesterelen, Northern Norway > 68039.14'N 15029.34'E > > http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:48:47 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: FLUFF: Free gift for a lucky Palm Pilot user Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:44 PM 1/19/01 +0000, you wrote: I used to have a Palm Pilot, but I gave it to my sister when I stopped using it (went to Psion and then back to the 200). Shortly after I got my PP, I purchased a copy of QuickSheet version 2.1 which I kept upgrading. I now have version 5. So, competition time. If you want the licence, e-mail me off list with a convincing argument why it should be you. Heart melting stories of orphaned kittens, bribes, thinly veiled threats, that sort of thing. ========================================== Hello Chris, I've just started Palmpiloting! As a new Pilot user, I'd be greatly benefited by an advanced spreadsheet such as Quicksheet 5.0. As to why I should get...I could send you a long missive on my sparkling personality, my quick wit, my sad-eyed girlfriend, or my dangerously domineering boss demanding ever more productivity from me a work. But, these missives would be...false. If you'd like to send it my way, I'd be eternally grateful. If not, I hope whomever gets it is grateful for the gift they're getting. Either way, it's been nice chatting with you. By the way, what software did you find most useful on the Palm? Cheerfully, David Ball ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:49:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "thomas e. nemeth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "thomas e. nemeth" Subject: Re: key sequences for Citizen PN60 pocket printer Comments: To: "INTERNET:fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks Fred, that's the first thing I did (check the website for the manual). In fact, they only have some drivers on their website. = So if any of the Citizen P60 owners can send me the info or if anyone is feeling especially generous, could copy a couple of pages, I'd be eternal= ly grateful. Cheers, Tom ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:58:44 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: HPLX-L v Donkey Carts Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Owen H. Morgan" wrote: > > but the Psion machines have 3 fatal flaws: > > 1. You can't read the screen except under ideal > > conditions at an ideal angle. > > Maybe you can't, but certainly I can read the screen very well in my dimly lit boat, on a bus, on a train and wherever else I happen to find myself. The screen on the original Series 5 (non mx) wasn't quite as good, but certainly as good as the HP200LX screen without the backlight, and a lot better with backlighting. I find the 200LX screen to be far superior to the 5mx screen. I don't find the backlighting to help that much on the 5mx. > > 2. You can't adjust the screen at all. Two > > positions, open and > > closed, and for me the open position is never the > > ideal angle to > > see the screen at the point where it's at all > > readable. > > I hardly ever use the palmtop on a table, but tried it now, and found the screen angle perfect. In fact, I tried leaning forwards and back to see if I could make it unreadable, but found it is readable from any angle it would be realistic to type on the keyboard. The only way I have been able to use the 5mx on a table is to take one of those "pink pearl" erasers and wedge behind the screen to change the screen angle. That seems to make the angle just right. But it's kind of a pain to do that and I don't know if it puts undesirable stress on the screen hinge mechanism. > > 3. The keyboard (as I've mentioned before) is > > unusable, like "typing on a rubber band". > > The problem with this statement is that I am typing my reply on that same "unusable" keyboard. I do a lot of writing, and have not typed on any other computer for the past three years. I'm not as fast as some secretaries, but I'm as fast as I used to be on a full size keyboard. If you look through the HPLX mailing list archives you'll find lots of messages written by me (some would say way to many...) They were all typed at good speed on the keyboard you chose to call unusable. Since I'm typing on it now and typing a hell of a lot faster than I could ever hope to achieve on my HPLX, it is very clearly usable! To me the 5mx keyboard is too squishy and some of the keys stick. I don't know if it's the way I type or if my keyboard is defective. The key stickiness is affected by the angle I strike the keys. I can touch type on the 200LX but it makes my hands tired if I have to type a lot. Although now if I have to type a lot I use the Jornada keyboard from Thaddeus, which really works great. > > The EPOC machine may be a lot faster than the > > 200LX, but > > if you have to have to waste a lot of time to find > > an ideal environment > > to be able to use the EPOC machine, by the time > > you crack the thing > > open the guy with the "slow" 200LX is done and > > outta there. > > I never "waste time" looking for a perfect environment to use my MC218. I've found my perfect environment a long time ago. It's the corner of the settee on my boat with my feet up and the palmtop resting on my knees and supported by my thumbs. In this position, I use six fingers to type at good speed. When I'm away from the boat, I just pull it out wherever I am. (Oops... :o) Unlike the HPLX, I can even turn on the backlight and use it in the dark. I never work in the dark and have never found a use for the backlight. > > The 200LX wins hands down. > > > All my opinions, of course, but based on actual > > practical experience. > > About ten minutes of it I presume? I've been using first the Psion Series 5 and then the Ericsson MC218 an average of three hours every single day for the past three years. Based on _my_ practical experience, the keyboard is great and the screen is not perfect, but perfectly usable and better than the screen on my HP200LX. Only slightly better without the backlight, but a hell of a lot better with backlighting. The REVO has a very good screen. Better than both the Series 5mx / MC218 and HPLX, but no backlighting. A lot more than 10 minutes but nowhere close to 3 years. The screen on my 200LX is much better than the screen on my 5mx. I've never tried a Revo. They have one at the local CompUSA on display but every time I've been there and tried it I could never get it to work. > Clearly, you are a HPLX user and you are used to the HPLX keyboard. If you try any other palmtop keyboard for only a few minutes, you will probably find that you can't type as fast as you do on the LX. All palmtop keyboards take a little getting used to because the key spacing is different, the positions of some keys are different and the tactile feel is different. If you used a Psion S5mx for a month, I'm sure you'd find yourself typing faster than you'd ever dreamed of being able to do on a palmtop! If I could get past the sticky keys on the 5mx I would be willing to put the 200LX away for a month (except for the things the 200LX can do that the 5mx can't). Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:59:39 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Carry Case Comments: To: Scott Schindler In-Reply-To: <000c01c08401$cbfaaa10$6501a8c0@reliacast.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Scott Schindler wrote: > Does anyone else have any other options? I have a Targus slip-in belt case for larger handhelds (forgot the model#). It was cheap, decently padded and has lots of space inside for PCMCIA cards, phone cords and spare batteries. It's a bit too big to be comfortable on my belt, though someone with a bigger build may be OK with it. It's also hard to draw out the LX safely unless you stuff something (perhaps a phone cord) at the bottom of the case, thus raising the LX itself slightly above the case lip. Even with that boost, quickdraws are very risky. 8-) I also have a Terrapin mini-portfolio case (again, don't have the model#, but it's the one with an external cell phone pouch). Again, lots of space for the accessories (the phone cord & sync cable go in the phone pouch), but too bulky and needs Velcro (!) to hold the LX in place. And, of course, HP's own case, which IMO is the worst of the 3. When on business, I use the Terrapin case. Other times, I just toss the bare LX into a backpack and go. 8-) -- - Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:10:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Anthony Ettipio Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Anthony Ettipio Subject: Re: Infoselect database size Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-V In-Reply-To: <006901c08415$db5da160$45696c40@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I seem to recall that the TSR version of IS was problematic > (impossible?) to use on the LX, but the non-TSR runs just > fine. The only thing I wish was different was the ability > to have it open with other DOS programs. For reasons not > known by me, I would get fairly frequent crashes with IS > and Software Carousel, which led to my unloading SC from my > LX. I've has the SAME experience. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Domingo Diaz-V Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:52 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Infoselect database size ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Grenert" To: Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: Infoselect database size > I seem to recall that the TSR version of IS was problematic > (impossible?) to use on the LX, but the non-TSR runs just > fine. The only thing I wish was different was the ability > to have it open with other DOS programs. For reasons not > known by me, I would get fairly frequent crashes with IS > and Software Carousel, which led to my unloading SC from my > LX. I have had the same experience with Dosshell and IS. IS and SWAPIS (included with IS) works really well in TSR mode. HTH Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:23:17 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Palmtops and tropical weather. Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-V In-Reply-To: <007b01c08416$75ca19e0$45696c40@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > I have always wondered what are peoples experiences using > their palmtops in tropical weather over long periods. Like Jorgen, I live in Singapore, and I've also noticed the heavy corrosion on the power jack (heck, every connector cable around here sports some tarnish). It doesn't seem to affect charging, though, and the rest of it just works great. I'm also on army reserve duty about once a year, and just after I got my LX in 1996, I decided to bring it along to relieve the boredom of field HQ duty. I just opened the LX wide, slipped it in a Ziplock bag, sealed it up and folded the LX closed. Instant environment protection (though no shockproofing). Shocked the hell out of my buddies when I whipped it out of the thigh pocket of my fatigues and started programming at 3am, right through the Ziplock. "Where's the power cord?" The best part, though, was when the generators ran out of fuel about an hour later. The PCs and lights in the field tent all died, yet there I was, happily programming by flashlight in the middle of nowhere. -- - Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 21:44:54 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , James Grenert Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Grenert Subject: PNR address books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Let me preface this by saying that I don't use PNR, so there is the possibility that what I am suggesting won't work, but I can't imagine that it wouldn't. The macro function of the LX can be very useful for composing emails in conjunction with the built-in phonebook. I'm not sure if the default phonebook format includes an email field, but if not, it can easily be added (the phonebook is simply a use-specific database; save a copy of the phone.pdb file to phone.gdb and edit the format like any other database). Once you've done that, you can set up a macro to: Edit the current phonebook item (once you've brought up the entry for the person to whom the email should go). Go to the email field. Copy the entry there. Exit from the edit screen. Open your email program (PNR in this case) using a hotkey combination or an Icon on the AppManager. Compose a new entry. Go to the To: field. Paste the email address. The specifics of this will depend on how your particular LX is set up, but it should be pretty straightforward. Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:07:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joerg Scheiner Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joerg Scheiner Subject: Re: Smartmedia in 200LX Comments: To: "Richard HPLX-L"@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use a 32MB Olympus M-32P Smartmedia Card with a Olympus PC Card Adaptor MA-2E in my ?2MB double speed 200LX without any problems. I can easily look at the pictures taken with the digital camera and transfer files to the laptop. Also I can run programs from the card and I do not recognise additional current draw. > Since there are Smartmedia (a.k.a. 'multimedia') to PCMCIA Type II > adapters, does anyone know if there are any problems with using > Smartmedia cards via the adapters in the 200LX? Best regards Joerg Scheiner Erlangen, Germany ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:30:22 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>If you intend to quote after your text, consider to not quote at all. >>Re:... in the subject line is often sufficient. >That assumes we don't suffer from thread-hijacks and thread-drift ... >a dangerous assumption on this list. >- Longden as long as it is you, Longden, i am gladly looking forward to all assumtions, drifts, high-jacks, puns n funs :) the subject line may not be sufficient if the body of the text is denuded of quoted material, but it is always possible to ask the sender privately; in 98.2% of cases i get an answer - sometimes even more .. :) Nathalie... my greatest ambition - to help unravel the secrets of the universe - has been promoted by DASOFT's willingness to help pay my rent ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:00:19 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Carry Case MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, On 21 Jan 2001, at 18:44, Patrick west wrote: > I use & love the Ripoffs Brand case. me too. I had a Targus case before, but the belt clip is worse, if you sit down you can easily loose your HP (happened to me in the car) The material of the belt clip is also not so flexible than the Ripoff case. The targus case has more space for extra cards and a pen though. Werner Thought for the day: Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people that they are right, whether they are or not. -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 04:57:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Convert multipage-TIFF -> something Lxpic can show? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi I use a Online bank which sends me mails with Multipage Tiff pictures when I transfer/receive money. How can I view this on the Hplx? Lxpic does not show them. Can I convert the tiff on the Hplx to something I can view with Lxpic? Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 04:16:16 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: Carry Case Comments: To: Scott Schindler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I am looking for a carrying case that clips > onto my belt for > the LX. > http://www.dxmarket.com/casetech/products/207-HP200.html This one looks good. yu kan also get one for half price at a (usually) korean leather goods store mede to yor specifikations. > yor pal al........... ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:30:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Ban HTML e-mails! Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 06:17:21 +0100, "Owen H. Morgan" wrote: > HTML is the default mode of Micro$ofts e-mail software. > Since most beginners have no idea that they are sending > HTML e-mails and have no way of knowing it is not acc > epted practice, they naturally don't change the setting I agree. > which is hidden away somewhere in the deep dark recesses > of Outlook. I disagree. It was easy for me to switch my version of Outlook at plain text. Two clicks I believe. Perhaps three. > Even if you have changed the setting, if you > make changes to your WindoZzze or Office installation, t > he setting may be returned to HTML without you knowing > about it! I disagree again. I have never had Outlook switch back to HTML. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:31:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement Availability? Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:24:59 -0600, Hal Goldstein wrote: > > The bad news is that we probably won't get them for 4 months. We are about > to place our order. My question is how many of you think you might want to > buy these back up cases (in what quantity) say for $25? At $25 each, I would purchase at least two, just to be sure. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:31:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Fluff: Electrifying stories... Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 17:44:23 +0000, "F. Kaufman" wrote: > > how boring why not make your hair stand up on end instead? > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > He would if he had any! (gd&r) I have lots of hair, but the policy against large attachments in this list prevents me from sending a picture to prove it. Can I sue you for Libel, Judge Kaufman? Vic ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:31:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Fluff: Mobile phone and 110V EMI brain tumor court casesinUSA. Comments: To: Jim Saklad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:32:17 -0500, Jim Saklad wrote: > > Vic - > > >Car and "bag" phones generate 5 watts. Portable cell phones generate > >0.6 watts or less. (OK, the very old and very large "portable" cell > >phones did generate about 3 watts, but they are very rare. > > I thought car phones maxed at 3, bag phones mostly at 1.2. I believe you are correct about car phone power being 3 watts instead of 5 as I had stated. But I had a Motorola bag phone and it also put out three watts. I think the car phone and bag phone use identical technology. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:39:59 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Convert multipage-TIFF -> something Lxpic can show? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Martin, > I use a Online bank which sends me mails with Multipage Tiff pictures > when I transfer/receive money. > > How can I view this on the Hplx? > > Lxpic does not show them. Can I convert the tiff on the Hplx to > something I can view with Lxpic? You might use "VIEW" which comes with BGFAX. Have a look at s.u.p.e.r. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:03:29 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Citizen PN60i manual MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII thomas e. nesmeth requested information from the manual for the Citizen PN60i printer. I have that manual at my side, and if you will provide a fax number and/or an address I will fax and/or mail it to you. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:07:39 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Psion Revo (Was Group project) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! I sent this to the list a couple of days ago, but for some reason it didn't = come through, so I've shortened it a bit and am trying again. Franklin Eekhout wrote (>): > Mmm. Are there any sites that check this? We > sort of know how x86 compare to 68k to Sparcs > etc. But I for one have not seen a speed > comparison (ok, I know this is not kosher!) of > the new RISC CPUs in PDAs. As I only have access to the net via cell-phone, I don't do much surfing, = so I don't know, but when I got my first Psion Series 5 three years ago and = joined the UPS5 list, it seemed to be generally accepted that the S5 (half = the clock speed of the 5mx / MC218 / Revo) was quite a bit faster than = 75Mhz WinCE devices. The original S5 had a slightly dim screen, (but better than the HPLX) and = we had users change to WinCE because of the screen and then come back after = a while because their WinCe devices were hopelessly slow, kept crashing and = had miserable battery life. > This is very OS-dependent and Epoc is > supposedly very efficient. But we have > basically MS-DOS to contend with, and it's > difficult to find a more minimalistic/less overhead > OS today. True, DOS is nice and stable, and there is lots and lots of mostly free = software for it, but where EPOC scores is the very user friendly GUI, = multitasking, and the fact that the software is all designed to the same = concept, so it's very easy to learn new software. There are so many = software titles for EPOC out there now, that I know of very few things that = can't be done in EPOC. > Yanked your chain now, Owen! :-) Who, me? :o) > I have played with Psions in stores/fairs and > like them and find them fast. So why do you say they're sluggish? I've got the Hutchinsons encyclopaedia = in TomeRaider format on my MC218. The file is 22Mb. Based on some = experiments with ZIPing TomeRaider files and text files, I'd guesstimate = the encyclopaedia is around 65Mb of raw data. (That's close to 12 bibles!). = I just tried a search. I deliberately put the cursor at the beginning of = the encyclopaedia and searched for "xenophobia". The search took three = seconds. Can you search to the other end of a 65Mb database in 3 seconds on = your HP? > Liked the Geofox, pity it wasn't imported here. The Geofox had some good points. Lovely bright screen with higher vertical = resolution than the S5 based models (640 * 360 IIRC) and a proper PCMCIA = slot etc. I didn't like the idea of the glidepad though. The pointer pen is = a lot better IMHO. Of course, the bright screen was partially thanks to the = lack of a touch sensitive layer. Another thing I didn't like was the = calculator style keyboard. > But I get more exposure to MS-based devices. > They are slow. So I hear. :o) > I am waiting for a Linux/QNX-based one to show > up here in stores. Like the Yopy. Sounds interesting, but Linux is still a bit of a hackers OS. Not that = there is anything wrong with it, but the main reason people buy WindoZe = computers is availability _and_ very importantly that _everyone_ knows = someone who knows WindoZe and can help if they get stuck, or even supply = "free" software. > I always thought RISCs were the bee's knees > until CE PDAs showed up. They still are! CE sucks! > It would be nice to see a compile of the Opera > browser on MS-DOS using the 80186 set and > see what the minimum specs could be. Strange > how people can do magic... I doubt if the LX would be powerful enough to run a fully featured Opera = version. BTW, Opera for EPOC isn't all that it's cracked up to be. I'm = afraid it's rather buggy. There's a memory leak in it and it sometimes = crashes. It works OK to open one or two sites, but gradually eats up all = the available memory and grinds to a halt. I've found I mostly use the = built-in browser on the MC218 and only use Opera for secure sites which the = built-in browser doesn't support. > I am changing jobs now, apparently Opera is > located in the building next to my new work place. Can you please tell them to FINISH Opera for EPOC! in my opinion, the = release version is really still only a promising Beta... :o) Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:13:38 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: pnr question Oliver Chua writes: > >the name into my database. For composing, I have to remember to copy > >the name from the database with PNR open, but *before* bringing up the > >compose dialog box. > > Does that mean the cut-copy-paste works in the compose dialog box? I > didn't know you could do that. With version 3.2 you can paste into the dialog box if you have copied something into the clipboard buffer before you open the dialog box. My understanding is that David Becher's update to PNR will let you swap to a database file while the dialog box is open, but I haven't tried it yet. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:22:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Fwd: S: Ericsson GH388 med PCCARD-modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This guy is sellin a Ericson phone and a pcmcia modem that works with the 200lx. He asks 700Skr + shiping (about $70) The modem is also sold separatly for 350Skr --- begin of forwarded message --- From: Mats Subject: S: Ericsson GH388 med PCCARD-modem Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:52:23 +0100 Surfa tr=E5dl=F6st med din portabla pc (eller med Newton 2000). 700kr + frakt (finns i sundsvall) Enbart modemet (passar alla 300-telefoner) =3D 350kr. /Mats --- end of forwarded message --- /tomas m Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:21:48 -0600 Reply-To: cwbrad@attglobal.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Charles W. Bradley" Subject: Lotus Agenda & DS upgrade MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello, Can someone advise? Would the double speed upgrade, in addition to moving the program from flashcard to the on-board ram significantly increase the speed in handling a 3/4mb Lotus Agenda file so as to make it really useable? My current configuration (running program off of a flashcard on a 2mb stock 200LX) is unworkably slow unless I export a small amout of the Agenda file on my destop for the 200LX. I'd like to take the whole file with me on the road and still be able to use it. Thanks, Charles Bradley ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Bradley Hopewell Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN Union Grove Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN Emmanuel Presbyterian Chapel, Hohenwald, TN http://www.usit.com/hopewell/ "Let Thy works praise Thee, that we may love Thee; and let us love Thee, that Thy works may praise Thee." Aurelius Augustine cwbrad@attglobal.net FAX (931)840-0679 ----------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:15:10 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Re: Icons Comments: To: John Menard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, One way is to copy the icon file into the same directory as the programs executable. The icons filename must be the same as the programs but with the .icn extention. Then when you install into AppMgr the icon will show up as a choice. Owen ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Menard" Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 10:52 PM Subject: Icons > I'm still a newbie when it comes to the 200lx. I need to know how to > install icons on my unit. Everytime I add a program I only get the choice of the default icons. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:19:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefano Greselin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefano Greselin Subject: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I usually perform 200LX data backup using HP Transfile software. More frequently, I do backup on my HP Flashdisk (10MB; P/N: F1013A). I now have a Notebook pc (with Windows 2000) and I tried to read the HP Flashdisk thru the PCMCIA slot, with no success (I was able to read my flashdisk with my old HP Omnibook instead). Any suggestion? Mille grazie! (thanks a lot!) Stefano ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:00:11 -0600 Reply-To: palmtop@n-link.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Re: Quoting (info for Outlook 2000 users) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whew! > > Agreed. How do you do that in Outlook Express? ... >Tools / Options / Send / Plain Text Settings I spent a LONG time looking for this in Outlook 2000 (SR-1) and didn't come up w/ anything! ÝI didn't see the original help message and thought the "Tools / Options / Send / Plain Text Settings" applied to me! For Outlook 2000 users -- If you want to make ALL your messages "comply," go to: Tools / Options / Mail Format (Tab) and switch your sent mail format to Plain Text; then there is a "settings" button, that lets you change the line length. Thanks for getting me on the right track!! --tim PS. Working on a forum-friendly sig. (below)...... ---------------------------------------------------------------- - * Tim Raymond *** Public & Media Relations, Corporate Training * * Killeen, TX *** Cell: 254-289-6346 * * There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. * ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:06:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Acrobat Reader for DOS? Hi All, I remember quite a bit of discussion a while back about a search for an Acrobat Reader that will run on a HP200LX. Well, today I thought I had found one that would work on the HP200LX at http://www.demense.freeserve.co.uk/dos/, but upon reading the docs, it appears to requires protected mode. :-( Has anyone found an Acrobat Reader that will work on the HP200LX yet? Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan BTW, there is an old version of Desqview available for download there, but it didn't turn out to be a version that could run on an XT. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:21:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Schindler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Schindler Subject: Re: Carry Case MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I use & love the Ripoffs Brand case. >> Patrick > me too. > Werner Thanks for the input! I found the Ripoffs case at: http://www.ripoffs.com/hand.htm There appeared to be no way to order from there so I ordered it from: http://www.arcade-electronics.com/cgi-bin/webc.exe/st_prod.html?p_prodid=175 41&p_catid=210&sid=7@mDZ20Fq58n4O9-48101443742.e9 Cost plus shipping was US$26.34, not bad. Thanks again to all, Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:23:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Convert multipage-TIFF -> something Lxpic can show? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 22 Jan 2001 06:28:42 -0500 (EST) I use the VIEW.EXE from the BGFAX package(SUPER) to view TIFs and other FAX formats...works great! 01h31m29s ago ... On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Martin Bergvill wrote: > Hi > > I use a Online bank which sends me mails with Multipage Tiff pictures > when I transfer/receive money. > > How can I view this on the Hplx? > > Lxpic does not show them. Can I convert the tiff on the Hplx to > something I can view with Lxpic? > > Regards > > -- > Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:53:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I usually perform 200LX data backup using HP Transfile software. > More frequently, I do backup on my HP Flashdisk (10MB; P/N: F1013A). > I now have a Notebook pc (with Windows 2000) and I tried to read the HP > Flashdisk thru the PCMCIA slot, with no success (I was able to read my > flashdisk > with my old HP Omnibook instead). > Any suggestion? I haven't used W2K myself, but I'm not aware that there were any special issues with recognizing old flash cards. You'd think that W2K came with all the generic drivers necessary to handle most memory cards. What msgs do you get when you put the card in the slot? And have you tried other types of CF/PCMCIA cards in the slot? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:51:54 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Lately the majority of list members switched > to quoting after answering the subject. Did I > miss any agreement about this? I used to quote after the message but I changed it months ago, maybe more than a year ago, because someone mentioned that it bothered them. And nettiquite does specify quoting before the message. But I find quoting after the message to be clearer when I'm reading. As you say, the title is usually enough and I usually remember enough about the topic that I don't need the quote. I can just jump right into the message. But sometimes I don't remember enough or sometimes it's a thread I haven't been following but something catches my attention and I have the quoted part available to me. But the difference is small and I'll be happy to do it either way. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:17:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm still a newbie when it comes to the 200lx. > I need to know how to install icons on my unit. > Everytime I add a program I only get the > choice of the default icons. Put the icon in the same directory as the app and make sure it has the same base name and the extension .icn. Then it will be offered as one of your choices. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:21:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: Quoting In-Reply-To: <008f01c08417$4505dbe0$45696c40@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 22.01.2001, 18:19, Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > While on this subject, I have discovered that if the post I am > responding > to has the answer before the post it is answering to, OE will > not use > quotes automatically. Any solution to that=3F BTW: This is originally the way your mail showed up here - it doesn't look actually good. The only solution to that is to change your mailreader. The problem with the missing quotes is related to the "quoted printable" coding in the body of the mail. If this _is_ the case (like this one), OE doesn't insert the quotes. Two solutions: Inserting it by hand or changing the newsreader. Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:22:46 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 20 Jan 2001 to 21 Jan 2001 - Special issue (#2001-36) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The palmtop can display 64 chars in 18 lines > in the middle font. (Actually Stefan is the discoverer > of a fourth font - a tiny one...) What fourth font? Where is it? How do you get it? Is this a troll? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:29:26 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: Quoting In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 22.01.2001, 18:22, Al Kind wrote: > I would like to add a 3 line limit (not including spacer) on > "signatures". I reduced mine to 2 lines sometime ago as > suggested by members on this LIST. The good thing about the internet is that there is a standard for everything. In the usenet, the signature should not be longer than 4 lines and the separator should be "-- ". Good mailreaders (like the one I use) can then automatically delete everything after the "-- " when replying to the mail. Your suggested two lines plus the two inserted by the list manager are exactly four lines -> perfect. Bye G=FCnther BTW: The style you wrote your mail is exactly the reason why Stefan posted his original message. Please first quote the text and then write your answer below. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:17:16 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , john kavanagh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: john kavanagh Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for DOS? Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This use to work. I have not tried it lately. John "mailto:pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu Use the above two addresses to translate pdf files. The first one is to translate to a text file and the second to a html file. All you need to do is email your file to one of these addresses and you will receive your translation back in a couple of minutes. I just did a translation of a book I downloaded from www.1stbooks.com in pdf format. Now that I have the book in text format I can read it with "vertical reader" on my 200lx!" --- John J Vanderstel wrote: > Hi All, > > I remember quite a bit of discussion a while back > about a search for an > Acrobat Reader that will run on a HP200LX. > > Well, today I thought I had found one that would > work on the HP200LX at > http://www.demense.freeserve.co.uk/dos/, but upon > reading the docs, it > appears to requires protected mode. :-( > > Has anyone found an Acrobat Reader that will work on > the HP200LX yet? > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan > > BTW, there is an old version of Desqview available > for download there, > but it didn't turn out to be a version that could > run on an XT. > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for > less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ===== John Kavanagh www.kavanaghhomes.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:54:42 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Look ma, no spring! Using the LX for a couple days not, the end cap covering disintegrated hinge with no spring has been working just fine. Don't know about longevity. I open the LX 20 to 30 times a day. Bob -- Robert K. Meyer Elk Mountain Wyoming http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone which... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 12:56:21 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > As you can tell, I'm getting a little > annoyed by all of this! What's to get annoyed about? Nobody is twisting your arm. There's a discussion about how we might make this list easier for everyone to use. That's how people in this world get along. They make their feelings known politely and hope others will accomodate them. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't. I've had a number of comments about the way I post. Sometimes I forget to change the subject from the digest subject heading and if I do that too often someone reminds me and that makes me aware of it and I do it right. Sometimes I screw up and say something that's incorrect. I have problems with memory. Sometimes I get feedback about that. I try to stay as accurate as possible but I've decided not to worry too much about the times I blow it. Nobody ever got mad about it. It's that kind of cooperation that has made this list the friendly place it is. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:11:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Quoting > I used to quote after the message but I changed it months ago, maybe > more than a year ago, because someone mentioned that it bothered > them. And nettiquite does specify quoting before the message. It has been a long time since I read the USENET FAQs, but IIRC the above comment is correct. BTW, I am intentionally not pressing ENTER on this message, just to see if OE will do its own formatting. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:21:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think this might have happened because of my habit of pressing enter to manually format the lines, even though I already changed the lines setting to 64. Let's see if this one looks right. BTW, you put your response after my message, but still OE did not insert quotes. I have never seen that happen before. As a matter of politeness I trim the original messages to a minimum, but inserting quotes manually every time quotes don't work is just to much trouble, so I put the response before the message. Since that is standard USENET style anyway (AFAIK), If I can fix this problem easily, I'll fix it, otherwise I am not going to sweat it Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "G|nther Eisele" To: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: Re: Quoting 22.01.2001, 18:19, Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > While on this subject, I have discovered that if the post I am > responding > to has the answer before the post it is answering to, OE will > not use > quotes automatically. Any solution to that? BTW: This is originally the way your mail showed up here - it doesn't look actually good. The only solution to that is to change your mailreader. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:36:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Domingo Diaz-V" To: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:11 PM Subject: Re: Quoting > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:51 AM > Subject: Re: Quoting > > I used to quote after the message but I changed it months ago, > maybe > > more than a year ago, because someone mentioned that it > bothered > > them. And nettiquite does specify quoting before the message. > > It has been a long time since I read the USENET FAQs, but IIRC > the above comment is correct. BTW, I am intentionally not > pressing ENTER on this message, just to see if OE will do its > own formatting. Yipee! word wrap works! Now that's one less thing to keep some of you awake at night. :o) As far as email programs, obviously Barry's program formatting doesn't agree with mine, so it doesn't look quite right. Will I lose any sleep over that? You bet I won't. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:19:10 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Convert multipage-TIFF -> something Lxpic can show? Comments: To: Martin Bergvill In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Martin, To view a TIFF on the palmtop I use VIEW from BGFAX. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:17:05 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: quoting Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud In-Reply-To: <006701c0843d$1d41d8e0$d085fcc1@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/22/01 +0100, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: >as long as it is you, Longden, i am gladly looking forward to all >assumtions, drifts, high-jacks, puns n funs :) I am jealous! >Nathalie... > my greatest ambition - to help unravel the secrets of the universe - > has been promoted by DASOFT's willingness to help pay my rent When did you get on our payroll? Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:12:08 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Quoting Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20010122031410.OEZS28450.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@worldn et.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Fred, At 1/22/01 +0000, you wrote: > > The palmtop can display 64 chars in 18 lines in the middle font. (Actually > > Stefan is the discoverer of a fourth font - a tiny one...) > >Actually, I believe, Jeff Mattox, of Buddy fame also discovered that >font for use on the function keys. I think it is a different font... Wiht Post/LX I have 4 fonts, 80 chars, 64 chars, 40 chars and that tiny one, I think it is 132 chars. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:34:00 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Icons Comments: To: Owen Samuelson In-Reply-To: <000501c0845c$34996660$6b4e56d1@homepc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >One way is to copy the icon file into the same directory as the programs >executable. The icons filename must be the same as the programs but with the >.icn extention. To make the icon show up even if it is NOT in the same directory follow these instructions. First a bit of background: The Apps Mgr puts the icon inside the APPMGR.DAT file when you define the application. If it finds an icon file named as the application name, it will use that icon, otherwise you get the default icon (you can choose one of three). Once the application is defined you can delete the icon from the directory! I will assume you defined the application and now want to change its icon to something that resides in another directory. The application assumed to be "app.exe", the icon file name assumed to be "icon.icn" and it resides in c:\utils\icons, while the app.exe is in a:\appls\... 1. In the Application Manager menu, EDIT the application entry (F3). 2. Tab once to get to the PATH 3. Press Fn-. (CUT) to remove (temporarily) the application path. (So presumably you cut "a:\appls\app.exe" 4. Now type the icon path - yes - the path of the icon! "c:\utils\icons\icon.icn" 5. Tab to the icon window and you should see the icon requested. If not, you did not type the path correctly. Just tab back and do it right. Once you see the icon, it is going to be recorded in the Application entry for "app.exe" in the APPMGR.DAT file. 6. Tab twice from the icon to the PATH field, and while it is highlighted, just press FN-+ (PASTE) to return the previous content (which you cut in step 3.) 7. Press OK, and you are done. Enjoy! Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 13:14:02 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Would 60 chars linelength be better? Here is why. With 64 char LX screen, it would allow for a depth of two levels of quoting without word wrap of the quotes. This would make most quotes more readable. 60 chars instead of 64 would make reading a bit faster, closer to a newspaper column style. > > -64 chars linelength for comfortable 18x64 reading > > -no HTML attachments > > -no full quoting > > -no vcards Bob -- R.K. Meyer K7PPC Elk Mountain Wyoming http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone which... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:10:08 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: Quoting In-Reply-To: <004901c084a8$9571a8c0$35696c40@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 22.01.2001, 21:04, Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > I think this might have happened because of my habit of pressing > enter to manually format the lines, even though I already > changed the lines setting to 64. Let's see if this one looks > right. It does. > BTW, you put your response after my message, but still > OE did not insert quotes. Did you read what I wrote=3F I gave you an explanation why this happens. It has nothing to do with where the quotes are. So please read my last message. > As a matter of politeness I trim the original messages to a > minimum, but inserting quotes manually every time quotes don't > work is just to much trouble, so I put the response before the > message. Since that is standard USENET style anyway (AFAIK), It is not, and that exactly is the point of this hole discussion. > If I can fix this problem easily, I'll fix it, otherwise I am > not going to sweat it That's not very polite. I think Stefan and others have made this quite clear. I won't actually repeat all that's been said, you maybe just read through the previous posintgs. It's clearly a bug in your mail-/newsreader, so have you ever thought of changing to a reader which follows the standards=3F TheBat! for mails and Forte Agent for Usenet are quite good solutions, which I can recommend. Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:27:01 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: 123 or similar question Comments: To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerhard Gonter wrote: > I guess this was meant to be an abbreviation for "Tabellen Kalkulation", > the german expression for spreadsheet > +gg ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi Vielen Dank - auf dieses mir sonst bekannte Wort war ich gerade nicht gekommen. Many thanks - this word (spreadsheet), usually familiar to me, was vanished. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 14:23:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Isn't it just a wee bit bold to tell the list owner how to post his messages? Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "G|nther Eisele" To: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:29 PM Subject: Re: Quoting BTW: The style you wrote your mail is exactly the reason why Stefan posted his original message. Please first quote the text and then write your answer below. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:43:33 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:25:14 -0700, Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > you understand me correctly: While I do believe that there is life, > intelligent life, on other planets, I don't believe that SETI, or any > other similar project, will ever find any scientific evidence of it. > SETI@home is nothing more than an interesting conversation piece. I generally think that ressource sharing is a phantastical thing. Connecting all PCs to a world's super computer and sharing all the free CPU and storage ressources (the latter may be a matter of data privacy protection, but that's another issue) would solve a lot of problems. But I also think that there could be more important projects to work on than such obviously fruitless ones. For example, I heard from a company here in Germany which offers ressources (and writes the software for that project) to find lost children by comparing pictures of them sent in by the parents with pictures on the Internet (especially on sex sites, but also sites of legal organizations). They are quite successful, but due to the limited CPU and net ressources they COULD be more successful. ANd that's a really important thing I think... GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:43:35 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: FS: Reminder for LED light auction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, this is just a little reminder for my auction on ebay: I sell an LED light for the palmtop. Auction # 1207667018 The auction ends in 24h. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:43:38 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, if anyone is interested: I know a person who has developed a method to connect an iomega ZIP drive to the palmtop via the serial port. For this purpose he developed a little box containing a microprocessor and some other active parts and he also has written the needed drivers. He gets a throughput of abt. 100kb/sec! MAYBE he will be kind enough to release the hardware design and the software (he actually developed that for a company, but this company doesn't exist anymore) , but he surely will only do that if anyone was interested. He won't MAKE the hardware, but only say HOW TO MAKE it! GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:59:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 100 kilo bits I assume? Bryan Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > Hi friends, > > if anyone is interested: > I know a person who has developed a method to connect an iomega ZIP > drive to the palmtop via the serial port. > For this purpose he developed a little box containing a microprocessor > and some other active parts and he also has written the needed drivers. > > He gets a throughput of abt. 100kb/sec! > > MAYBE he will be kind enough to release the hardware design and the > software (he actually developed that for a company, but this company > doesn't exist anymore) , but he surely will only do that if anyone was > interested. > > He won't MAKE the hardware, but only say HOW TO MAKE it! > > GTX > daniel > > -- > Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de > home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de > mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 > unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 11:19:01 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Come, come, people. No need to get into a flame war over TMI (too much information -- or data, as it seems) > Why should I change the way I use my software just to make your > (or anyones else's) life easier? (What have you done to improve > my life?) It is YOUR choice to connect via a slow cell-phone > modem. Despite my love and use of the DOS-based HP 200LX, it > makes more sense for me to send HTML e-mail and vCards. As Mr. > Spock would say: the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the > few. Besides, I receive the digest (sometimes on my 200LX) and > have no problems with it. Err, Owen is on a boat and has little choice but to connect using a cell modem, but that's beside the point. Either way, nobody's completely right. The answer is for everyone to be willing to nicely reach a consensus. The common denominator is not always the best case. Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:23:00 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Ideal Battery for the LX In-Reply-To: <5wr81KtJ9d4b.61DpSypj@mail.c2i.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all I came across an article about an aluminium/air battery that apparently has higher power than lithiums. I was wondering if there were any UK based people that could get and experiment with this to make an LX superbattery? http://www.i-way.co.uk/~ectechnic/ALUMAIR.HTML is the web site to look at. Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:38:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Hinge Disintegration -- A New Problem? Comments: To: HP Staber MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" << Hal : what are your instructions from HP for the housing mold that they will send you - what type of material should be used for molding ?>> HP isn't sending me the mold, after all. A Singapore company will be creating the case top. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:37:02 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Juergen Korthof Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Juergen Korthof Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------CDE837BFABC5B619DA7B5B45" Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. --------------CDE837BFABC5B619DA7B5B45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by post.webmailer.de id XAA18015 Daniel Hertrich schrieb: > if anyone is interested: > I know a person who has developed a method to connect an iomega ZIP > drive to the palmtop via the serial port. > He gets a throughput of abt. 100kb/sec! Hi Daniel! Sounds very nice! It would be an interesting project too, to develop a parallel Laplink-Driver wich could share the same hardware=20 (Zipdrive-Parallelport-Connection). So I would have to say: Don=B4t let that genius man run away! :-) Happy LXing J=FCrgen. --------------CDE837BFABC5B619DA7B5B45 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="info.vcf" Content-Description: Visitenkarte f|r Juergen Korthof Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="info.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by post.webmailer.de id XAA18015 begin:vcard=20 n:Korthof;J=FCrgen tel;fax:+49 2941 24550 11 tel;work:+49 2941 24550 0 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.eu-vorteile.de org:EU-Vorteile Informationsdienst adr:;;Westernk=F6tter Str. 19;Lippstadt;NRW;59557;Germany version:2.1 email;internet:info@eu-vorteile.de title:F=F6rdermittel, Zusch=FCsse, Finanzierungen, Kostenvorteile x-mozilla-cpt:;-1 end:vcard --------------CDE837BFABC5B619DA7B5B45-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:44:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where the zip drive uses the parallel port...will one of the parallel port adapters for the 200lx work with the zip?????? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:57:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fryday wrote: > Why should I change the way I use my software just to make your >(or anyones else's) life easier? The people on this list have helped a great deal in making life with the 200x easier....the least we can do is help them when it comes to reading this list on the 200lx. And since HP has dumped us 200lx users into the ocean (on our own) we need these people more than ever to help us. Give them a break...only takes a few seconds. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:12:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Fluff: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "G|nther Eisele" To: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 3:10 PM Subject: Re: Quoting 22.01.2001, 21:04, Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > BTW, you put your response after my message, but still > OE did not insert quotes. Did you read what I wrote? I gave you an explanation why this happens. It has nothing to do with where the quotes are. So please read my last message. ****************************************************** I read _surmisings_ and _generalities, no reference whatever about Outlook Express, and a recommendation to get another program. Useless at best, annoying at worst. If you have something concrete to offer, offer it, otherwise this is all useless fluff. Anyone who wants things to be better/different should be helpful, not arrogant, which is the way all this comes across to me. Make up a _useful_ FAQ and publish it, then maybe I'll take you seriously, like Mike (thanks again Mike). Domingo P.S. If nothing useful can come forward, then please let's end this annoying thread right here. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:20:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Palmtops and tropical weather. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Ho" To: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:23 AM Subject: Re: Palmtops and tropical weather. > On Sun, 21 Jan 2001, Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > > I have always wondered what are peoples experiences using > > their palmtops in tropical weather over long periods. > > Like Jorgen, I live in Singapore, and I've also noticed the > heavy corrosion on the power jack (heck, every connector cable > around here sports some tarnish). It doesn't seem to affect > charging, though, and the rest of it just works great. Do you live near the sea, by any chance? I would imagine that would be a big factor. Thanks for your post. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:31:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Request.. Comments: To: Juergen Korthof MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Juergen Korthof wrote: > begin:vcard=20 > n:Korthof;J=FCrgen > tel;fax:+49 2941 24550 11 Do you mind killing that VCARD on posts to the list? Thanks in advance! Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:37:34 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: d.hertrich@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel, What a wonderful thing. Any idea how difficult it would be to build the device? I'm sure I am not the only one interested. Hmmmm, I wonder if the same device will drive a parallel printer? Dennis > For this purpose he developed a little box containing a microprocessor > and some other active parts and he also has written the needed drivers. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:55:07 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: pnr question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >With PNR version 3.6 I use my phonebook as my address book using smart clip >to copy email addresses from the phone book into the relevant fields of >the email form. >I place email addresses in the "Alternate" field in the phone book and >have a smart clip which I called name and email which clips the data as >Name I assume you enter the addresses during the entry dialog box. What do you do when you want to send to multiple addresses? I understand a bug of PNR is that it won't allow you to switch to another program when the dialog box is up. Of course, I know you can do this in memo after the entry dialog box leaves. Just curious if you do it another way. >Are you by any chance deleting a:\apname.lst or c:\apname.lst? >When you go online PNR should be closed and nothing you do online should >modify Application manager. If you using a PC card modem, and have pnr installed >on drive a: of a Memory card, this could be your problem. I am not aware of purposely deleting apname.lst and I do exit all open programs before using maxdos to dial the modem. You are correct in assuming that I use a PC card modem and have pnr installed on drive a: of a Memory card. I only have a 2mb HP200lx model. The spool directory is in drive c: but pnr is run on drive a: (memory card) which I insert (of course with the lx off) replacing the modem card after getting my mail. I fail to see how this could be my problem. I have other programs like freecell, HV, powermon, etc on drive a: but none of them give me this problem after a mail run. Could you explain what I'm doing wrong? regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:03:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's a great idea, and a much more practical and noble application of technology! And, yes, privacy protection is always a concern. Daniel Hertrich wrote: > ressources (and writes the software for that project) to find lost > children by comparing pictures of them sent in by the parents with ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:14:59 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fryday wrote: > Err, Owen is on a boat and has little choice but to connect using a cell modem, > but that's beside the point. Yep, and that's Owen's choice - and has little to do with my choice of technology usage - it seems to me that Owen must live with the consequences of his choice. Which may be the occasional HTML email message, winmail.dat file, or (in my case) vCard, from those of lesser technological ability, or, (unfortunately, in my case) absent-mindedness (a.k.a.: human). > Either way, nobody's completely right. The answer is for everyone to be willing > to nicely reach a consensus. The common denominator is not always the best case. Yep, right again, that would be good, and preferable, but I make it a practice to defend myself when I feel I've been unjustly attacked. It's hard to "nicely reach a consensus" under those circumstances, otherwise, I'm quick to be friendly and to forgive when a mistake is made. Thanks for your comments. Regards, Richard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:18:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith In-Reply-To: <3A6CCD03.DA44B1B4@freeport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I'm quick to be >>friendly and to >>forgive when a mistake is made. telling me to live with it or lump it and to get out of the stone age is not friendly in my opinion remember you were the one complaining about extra bytes I was only pointing out that you were adding to the problem you were complaining about ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:25:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken, > Where the zip drive uses the parallel port...will one of the parallel port > adapters for the 200lx work with the zip?????? I have a parallel zip drive connected to the Transdigital Parallel PCMCIA card that I purchased from Thaddeus. It works flawlessly. There are only a very few files needed to make this happen. I have used this method to make backups in the past. WEB ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:35:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I have stated, and apologized for, before, my "adding to the problem" was an innocent mistake, an oversight, for which I feel it unjust to vilify me, as some on the list seem to have done. If I remember correctly, I believe I even thanked you for the reminder. Richard Larry Tachna wrote: > >>I'm quick to be > >>friendly and to > >>forgive when a mistake is made. > > telling me to live with it or lump it and to get out of the stone age is not > friendly in my opinion > remember you were the one complaining about extra bytes I was only pointing > out that you were adding to the problem you were complaining about ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 16:08:49 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Yep, right again, that would be good, and preferable, but I make it a practice to > defend myself when I feel I've been unjustly attacked. It's hard to "nicely reach a > consensus" under those circumstances, otherwise, I'm quick to be friendly and to > forgive when a mistake is made. Ah! Reminds me of the good old days when I got flogged for having Outlook set to ask for a read receipt :-) Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 17:41:21 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also, Larry, I apologize if that remark was too harsh and came across wrong. I wasn't really complaining so much about extra bytes as I was the diminishing usefulness and degraded content of the list. I've just gotten tired of it; sorry if I'm a PITA. Regards, Richard Larry Tachna wrote: > telling me to live with it or lump it and to get out of the stone age is not > friendly in my opinion > remember you were the one complaining about extra bytes I was only pointing > out that you were adding to the problem you were complaining about ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:35:21 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: E-mail crash MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys! I had a little accident today, so lost some finished messages in my outbox = and some messages under work in my draft folder. If anyone is waiting for a reply from me to something sent the last couple = of days, please resend your message off list. Thanks. Owen -- * This e-mail was accelerated by EPOC and REM * * Then it was brought to its knees by the Internet and GSM * Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:39:02 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paulo Custodio Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Subject: Super update Comments: cc: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Charge by John Musielewicz was added to SUPER. Basically it is a replacement for the System Manager charging system that extends the charging time to a user settable time, it extends the built-in 6 hour fast charge to any time the user wishes so it is great for the 1500 and 1600 mAH batteries, but it works with th smaller sizes too. It also tracks the voltage so it will automatically enable charging when the voltage falls to a certain level and it also will stop charging after the voltage stalls for a user settable time. Charge is a TSR so you load it in the autoexec.bat and it only uses 2k of ram memory to run. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:11:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:44:28 -0500 (EST) 06h20m30s ago ... On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > Isn't it just a wee bit bold to tell the list owner how to post > his messages? > Actually, there were many on the LIST at that time who had long signatures, some longer than mine. I used FIGLET to create mine, and thought it looked pretty "cool", and I have seen some other ASCII art that I thought was pretty clever; but while I was insisting that people refrain from HTML, vcard, etc... to accommodate viewing EMail on my LX, I thought it only reasonable to respect those who also pay a premium for on-line time, or do not benefit from a memory expanded LX. I sometimes find it very useful to pull address & phone info from other's posts, so that is why I include mine. Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:22:02 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: OT: Re: Fluff: Electrifying stories... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I have lots of hair, but the policy against large attachments >in this list prevents me from sending a picture to prove it. >Vic Which raises an interesting question.. Who has the longest hair on the list? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:18:55 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Palmtops and tropical weather. Comments: To: Domingo Diaz-V In-Reply-To: <004301c084c9$df697fe0$35696c40@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, Domingo Diaz-V wrote: > Do you live near the sea, by any chance? I would imagine > that would be a big factor. Nope, but when you consider that: Ý1¨ it's an island 10+ miles across near the equator Ý2¨ humidity's never less than a few points shy of 100% it doesn't make a difference. 8-) -- - Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:25:02 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 20 Jan 2001 to 21 Jan 2001 - Special issue,(#2001-36) Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > The palmtop can display 64 chars in 18 lines > > in the middle font. (Actually Stefan is the discoverer > > of a fourth font - a tiny one...) > > What fourth font? Where is it? How do you get it? Is this a > troll? As I mentioned, there appears to be a very small font that Jeff Mattox employed in Buddy. If you use Buddy, see the next to last screen or one before that - third line down. Used possibly for function key labels and I think something else. Stefan probably also knows. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:25:07 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hi friends, > > if anyone is interested: > I know a person who has developed a method to connect an iomega ZIP > drive to the palmtop via the serial port. Yes, please. While I have the transdigital card, that meant displacing my pcmcia card - meaning on the c: drive (at that time quite small) could be backed up to the zip disk. Serial access would allow either a: or c: to be backed up. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:25:12 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: pnr question Comments: To: Oliver Chua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I am not aware of purposely deleting apname.lst and I do exit all open > programs before using maxdos to dial the modem. You are correct in > assuming that I use a PC card modem and have pnr installed on drive a: of a > Memory card. I only have a 2mb HP200lx model. The spool directory is in > drive c: but pnr is run on drive a: (memory card) which I insert (of course > with the lx off) replacing the modem card after getting my mail. I fail to > see how this could be my problem. I have other programs like freecell, HV, > powermon, etc on drive a: but none of them give me this problem after a > mail run. Could you explain what I'm doing wrong? The HP has always been very picky about the apname.lst file. (the hp keeps one for a: and one for c:) Since you've installed pnr (an exm) into appmgr, it adds it to apname.lst. But by pulling the a: disk, and inserting the modem, the hp recognizes that apname.lst is GONE. Even when reinstalled it may cause the problems you see. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:42:00 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: pnr question Oliver Chua writes: > > I assume you enter the addresses during the entry dialog box. What do you > do when you want to send to multiple addresses? I select multiple addresses and SmartClip them all at once. This works pretty well, up to a point. If there are a lot of addresses it takes some editing. > I understand a bug of PNR > is that it won't allow you to switch to another program when the dialog box > is up. As I mentioned before, I believe David's update fixes this problem. > Memory card. I only have a 2mb HP200lx model. The spool directory is in > drive c: but pnr is run on drive a: (memory card) which I insert (of course > with the lx off) replacing the modem card after getting my mail. I fail to > see how this could be my problem. Sounds suspicious to me, but I don't know. I've never used a memory card. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:04:14 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 20 Jan 2001 to 21 Jan 2001 - Special issue,(#2001-36) Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't use Buddy but I'd sure like to know more about that font. Anybody have a location for it or a code page or a function call or any idea how to access it in a program? Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 9:25 PM Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 20 Jan 2001 to 21 Jan 2001 - Special issue,(#2001-36) > > > The palmtop can display 64 chars in 18 lines > > > in the middle font. (Actually Stefan is the discoverer > > > of a fourth font - a tiny one...) > > > > What fourth font? Where is it? How do you get it? Is this a > > troll? > > As I mentioned, there appears to be a very small font that Jeff Mattox > employed in Buddy. If you use Buddy, see the next to last screen or one > before that - third line down. > > Used possibly for function key labels and I think something else. > Stefan probably also knows. > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:27:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Palmtops and tropical weather. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Ho" To: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:18 PM Subject: Re: Palmtops and tropical weather. > > Do you live near the sea, by any chance? I would imagine > > that would be a big factor. > > Nope, but when you consider that: > Ý1¨ it's an island 10+ miles across near the equator > Ý2¨ humidity's never less than a few points shy of 100% > it doesn't make a difference. 8-) Well, I was thinking of salt air, one of the most corrosive substances known to man, or at least to me. :o) I don't know the English word, but in Spanish we call it salitre. Living right by the sea is one of the most pleasant experiences I know, but your furniture won't last long. I never had the opportunity to observe how electronics react to it (not a pretty sight, I am sure). Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:46:29 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Icons Russel Brooks writes: > John Menard wrote: > > I'm still a newbie when it comes to the 200lx. I need to know how to > > install icons on my unit. Everytime I add a program I only get the choice of > > the default icons. > > If the .ICN file exists in the same directory with the program > file (.COM/.EXE) at the time it is being installed in the Appmgr > it should be offerred as an ICN selection. The ICN file must > also have the same Fn as the program file. I might also add that if there isnt an icon file available, you can make your own using the icon editor at (IIRC) d:\bin\icn2lx.exe on the ROM drive of the palmtop - it is primitive but works! ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 21:41:58 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , dmp24@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David M Peterson Subject: Re: Carry Case MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy, Ripoff brand cases may be purchased from Kim Boone at http://www.kbent.com/ I have purchased cases from him and he provides great service. Kim works in the next cubicle at HP-Corvallis. David Peterson ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 20:55:16 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: WEB In-Reply-To: <3A6CCF78.F6ED55F3@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Bill, At 1/22/01 -0500, you wrote: >I have a parallel zip drive connected to the Transdigital Parallel PCMCIA >card that I purchased from Thaddeus. It works flawlessly. There are only a >very few files needed to make this happen. I am curious now! What software is needed on the palmtop to make this work? I thought ZIP drives need some special drivers, as do the Ditto Max drives. AFAIK, there are no such drivers available for DOS that would run on our lowly chip. But I may well be mistaken. I would love to be able to connect the Ditto drive (parallel) to my palmtop via Transdigital card. I thought of a way to backup my A: drive if all this would work, of course. You need two machines, and it is not the fastest way to work in the world. Here is how: Connect the one machine to the Transdigital card. Connect via SERIAL (or IR) the other machine with your PCMCIA card in the slot. Now copy from the remote A: to the local A: which has the Transdigital card in it - i.e. copying to whatever hangs on that card. This is theoretical, but could work. Anyone has any ideas about this? Tried it? I am sure speed is not breakneck! :-( ... Avi >I have used this method to make backups in the past. > >WEB > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:13:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adrian Ho wrote: > I'd lean more towards a vCard/vCalendar-compliant software connector > ("conduit" to Palm-owners) for the built-in apps. While PIM is kinda > nice, it has no sync ability, IIRC, and I really don't want to buy & = run > the Connectivity Pack in a DOS emulator on my Linux box. I still use the 200LX Appointments built-in application but the ADB2VCAL.E= XE converter bundled with PIM could be used as a starting point to write = such a "conduit". A VCAL2ADB.EXE application should be written also to convert = back to the HP200LX format. \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:05:38 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Convert multipage-TIFF -> something Lxpic can show? Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Martin On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 04:57:13 -0500, Martin Bergvill wrote: > I use a Online bank which sends me mails with Multipage Tiff pictures > when I transfer/receive money. > > How can I view this on the Hplx? The viewer "view.exe" ouf of the bgfax package should be able to show it. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:05:26 +0100 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yves Leurquin wrote: > ÝHP-LX conduits¨ > I still use the 200LX Appointments built-in application but the ADB2VCAL.EXE > converter bundled with PIM could be used as a starting point to write such a > "conduit". A VCAL2ADB.EXE application should be written also to convert back > to the HP200LX format. Is anyone using Perl on a regular basis on their desktop machines? One of the reasons for me to work on the HP-LX Perl modules Ý1¨ is to build such converters and converters. Ý1¨ http://hp200lx-db.sourceforge.net/ +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:35:34 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: 4.font (6x8 pixel) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The 4.font of the palmtop is a 6 pixel wide x 8 pixel high font. That means, you get 25 lines with 105 characters out of it. The font is not hidden at all in the SDK, but because no SysMgr program uses it, it seemed to be forgotten. One drawback with fonts was, that you only have access to three of them at a time. I guess I solved this problem. D&A uses all four fonts in POST/LX and PE. Just zoom like you are used to. If you use SC and switch from one session using all four fonts to a blue key application, usually the font used there is destroyed and you have to rebuild the screen. This problem could only be solved in SC I think. BTW all four fonts may also be used for vertical output. There is only one SysMgr application I know of, which does any vertical output: If you assign text to the y-axis of a graph in 123, it is written vertical. I wrote a demo for all these not well or unknown features of the palmtop. To do something useful besides being a demo, I decided to put HTML-frames capability into it. Therefore it is called FRAMES.COM and can be found under http://peichl.hplx.net/frames.zip It shows all 4 fonts (also with different attributes like bold, underline, emboss etc.). The whole screen may be switched to vertical output. And indeed it uses excessive frames, which are also called clip regions or virtuel screens on the palmtop. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:46:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:53:21 -0800 > From: Longden Loo > Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? > > > I usually perform 200LX data backup using HP Transfile software. > > More frequently, I do backup on my HP Flashdisk (10MB; P/N: F1013A). > > I now have a Notebook pc (with Windows 2000) and I tried to read the HP > > Flashdisk thru the PCMCIA slot, with no success (I was able to read my > > flashdisk > > with my old HP Omnibook instead). > > Any suggestion? > > I haven't used W2K myself, but I'm not aware that there were any special > issues with recognizing old flash cards. You'd think that W2K came with > all the generic drivers necessary to handle most memory cards. > > What msgs do you get when you put the card in the slot? And have you tried > other types of CF/PCMCIA cards in the slot? > > - Longden ATA flash cards from my 200 LX work fine under W2K and Whistler. I don't remember the specs for the F1013A - is it by any chance a linear flash card? If so, that may be your problem. TFFS drivers aren't part of the Win32 app distributions so you'd need to find them elsewhere. Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:51:18 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: 5th proportional font (was: 4.font (6x8 pixel)) In-Reply-To: <3A6C0C32000162D8@mail.epost.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 23.01.2001, 13:46, stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE wrote: > The 4.font of the palmtop is a 6 pixel wide x 8 pixel high font. > That means, you get 25 lines with 105 characters out of it. ...and there is a 5th font, which I'm using when reading mails - the font which is downloadable in the archive fonts.zip from your webpage. It's slower than the not-proportional fonts, but it's quite "huge" and lets you read 80 chars or even more in one line (depending how much long chars (w,m) are used compared to thin ones like i). I don't know which software is able to use this font, but post/lx does - I really like it. Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:22:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats Another nice possibility is to subscribe to a mail service that let's you filter messages at your mail server instead of the client. If you filter on the "from:" field you can be fairly sure that you're only throwing away messages from the individuals you want to ignore. It also allows you to not have to download messages you are ignoring. I think there's a certain 'pal' here to which a lot of people are already doing this because of his use of the 'ven ak yular'. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fryday" To: Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 2:19 PM Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats > Come, come, people. No need to get into a flame war over TMI (too much > information -- or data, as it seems) > > > Why should I change the way I use my software just to make your > > (or anyones else's) life easier? (What have you done to improve > > my life?) It is YOUR choice to connect via a slow cell-phone > > modem. Despite my love and use of the DOS-based HP 200LX, it > > makes more sense for me to send HTML e-mail and vCards. As Mr. > > Spock would say: the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the > > few. Besides, I receive the digest (sometimes on my 200LX) and > > have no problems with it. > > Err, Owen is on a boat and has little choice but to connect using a cell modem, > but that's beside the point. > > Either way, nobody's completely right. The answer is for everyone to be willing > to nicely reach a consensus. The common denominator is not always the best case. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:23:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: double messages Is everyone else getting double messages? I think this has happened before.... Is everyone else getting double messages? I think this has happened before.... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 09:38:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: double messages Never mind, I had troubles with my pop server ... :-/ Sorry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Padin" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 9:23 AM Subject: double messages > Is everyone else getting double messages? I think this has happened > before.... > > Is everyone else getting double messages? I think this has happened > before.... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:02:37 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jorgen@PALMTOP.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Re: Palmtops and tropical weather. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Singapore is an rather small island and we have very high humidity here- so that's why. Jorgen > > Like Jorgen, I live in Singapore, and I've also noticed the > > heavy corrosion on the power jack (heck, every connector cable > > around here sports some tarnish). It doesn't seem to affect > > charging, though, and the rest of it just works great. > > Do you live near the sea, by any chance? I would imagine that > would be a big factor. > > Thanks for your post. > > Domingo > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:03:34 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: double messages Comments: To: Ed Padin In-Reply-To: <004d01c08548$0d203d10$250110ac@openreach.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/23/01 -0500, you wrote: >Is everyone else getting double messages? I think this has happened >before.... No. No. >Is everyone else getting double messages? I think this has happened >before.... No. No. Why? Why? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:28:17 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: running rconsole on a Netware Server ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello networkers on the Palm, has anybody tried to run rconsole on the palmtop? My HP200 hangs and needs a ctrl-shift-enter after calling rconsole. Syscon works without problems. any comments? regards, Werner HP 200 friendly Signature http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:07:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: double messages Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Ed Padin wrote: >Is everyone else getting double messages? >I think this has happened before.... No double messages on this end. No double messsages on this end. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:56:31 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > I usually perform 200LX data backup using HP Transfile software. > > > More frequently, I do backup on my HP Flashdisk (10MB; P/N: F1013A). > > > I now have a Notebook pc (with Windows 2000) and I tried to read the HP > > > Flashdisk thru the PCMCIA slot, with no success (I was able to read my > > > flashdisk > > > with my old HP Omnibook instead). > > > Any suggestion? > ATA flash cards from my 200 LX work fine under W2K and Whistler. I don't > remember the specs for the F1013A - is it by any chance a linear flash card? > If so, that may be your problem. TFFS drivers aren't part of the Win32 app > distributions so you'd need to find them elsewhere. A web search on F1013A turns up a few references, but the distinguishing thing seems to be that it's a 10mb 12volt card (this was posted on an HP Spanish language site as 10mb/12v -> http://www.hp.com/latinamerica/nsc/html/palmtops2.html ). There's also a F1014A (20mb card) ... but nothing in that says ATA vs linear. Since this is an item mentioned in the One-Stop-Palmtop Shop, my gut feeling is that the card is ATA. Maybe new computers don't support 12v cards? Most newer cards (PCMCIA and CF) are 3 or 5 volt aren't they? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 12:07:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: FLUFF: Re: Re: double messages Awright, already! Everybody's a wiseguy. ;¬> So, I screwed up... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken London" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 11:07 AM Subject: Re: double messages > >Ed Padin wrote: > > >Is everyone else getting double messages? > > >I think this has happened before.... > > No double messages on this end. > > No double messsages on this end. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:29:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Graham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Graham Subject: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: Bob Graham MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel - This sounds good. I'm interested. - bob \ooo_ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > > connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX > From: > > Daniel Hertrich > Date: > > Mon, 22 Jan 2001 22:43:38 +0200 > > > Hi friends, > > if anyone is interested: > I know a person who has developed a method to connect an iomega ZIP > drive to the palmtop via the serial port. > For this purpose he developed a little box containing a microprocessor > and some other active parts and he also has written the needed drivers. > > He gets a throughput of abt. 100kb/sec! > > MAYBE he will be kind enough to release the hardware design and the > software (he actually developed that for a company, but this company > doesn't exist anymore) , but he surely will only do that if anyone was > interested. > > He won't MAKE the hardware, but only say HOW TO MAKE it! > > GTX > daniel > > -- > Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de > home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de > mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 > unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 3066 > >>>>>>> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:32:34 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Psion Revo (Was Group project) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'd guesstimate the encyclopaedia is around > 65Mb of raw data. (That's close to 12 bibles!). > I just tried a search. I deliberately put the > cursor at the beginning of the encyclopaedia > and searched for "xenophobia". The search > took three seconds. I don't know about your encyclopaedia but most are very heavily indexed. An index of all words is fairly common. So it may be that putting the cursor near the beginning and picking something near the appearent end didn't affect the search. It's likely that the search found the word after 3 or 4 looks at the index if it's using a binary tree. A binary search would be slower but still very fast. The least likely method they might have used would be to read through the file. Although a fast cpu reading through a 65 meg ram based file shouldn't be slow. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:50:31 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I usually perform 200LX data backup > using HP Transfile software. More > frequently, I do backup on my HP Flashdisk > (10MB; P/N: F1013A). I now have a > Notebook pc (with Windows 2000) and > I tried to read the HP Flashdisk thru the > PCMCIA slot, with no success (I was able > to read my flashdisk with my old > HP Omnibook instead). Any suggestion? Assume you have something set up incorectly on your notebook. I have several Sandisk flash and compact flash cards (HP cards are Sandisk cards) And lot's of old and 1 new laptop. I've kept all my old ones. Every one that has a pcmcia slot reads these cards, including the old dos and win31 laptops. Most laptops have an option to disable the PCMCIA slot in setup. You might see if it's been disabled. The one problem I've had was with my previous IBM Thinkpad where they used some special driver that was supposed to make the PCMCIA slot compatible with more devices. But it made it incompatible with flash cards. IBM support told me to uninstall that and I did and it's worked perfectly ever since. I can't remember the name of the driver. It was some kind of 3rd party product that came with the computer. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:00:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Palmtops and tropical weather. Comments: To: jorgen@PALMTOP.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for your comment. I asked about the sea because I grew up in a tropical island, and have often thought of going back. I would go to the store to buy new strings for my violin, and they were already rusting. But the funny part was when I used to marvel at the ancient pianos and furniture at the school of music. I though it was at least 100 years old. It was only a few years old. The difference was the sea (the school was directly across the street from the Caribbean sea). The normal corrosion was accelerated a hundred fold by the sea. But I never had a chance to observe electronics exposed to this. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorgen Wallgren" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 10:02 AM Subject: Re: Palmtops and tropical weather. Singapore is an rather small island and we have very high humidity here- so that's why. > Do you live near the sea, by any chance? I would imagine that > would be a big factor. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:24:47 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for DOS? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a Acrobat reader that worked on the hp200lx. But it was not able to read newer pdf files. So I deleted it and only use the pdf to text email. acrobat to text John J Vanderstel wrote: > Hi All, > > I remember quite a bit of discussion a while back about a search for an > Acrobat Reader that will run on a HP200LX. > > Well, today I thought I had found one that would work on the HP200LX at > http://www.demense.freeserve.co.uk/dos/, but upon reading the docs, it > appears to requires protected mode. :-( > > Has anyone found an Acrobat Reader that will work on the HP200LX yet? > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan > > BTW, there is an old version of Desqview available for download there, > but it didn't turn out to be a version that could run on an XT. > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:21:42 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Re: SETI distributed computing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, I have a problem with this alien search programme. Do you actually believe that NASA is feeding you with real data? I mean considering what the USA is like, if there is a real s.reception, the gov't people would firstly assume the contents were about some superbomb. (Deciphering a message in an unknown code is not trivial and S. Lem is probably right, that the process and result of breaking the code is more characteristic of present-day earthly situations, rather than the senders). Now, if there is a find, NASA tells Bush II, Bush II tells CIA to cover up. Obviously this action is easily performed if all people around the world actually got fed junk data and find was in fact from a gov't super-computer. The USA may have actually started this Internet project after receiving something from heavens, as a method to steal time for decipher. I am sure no amount of PCs can compete with a specialized supercomputer, reinforced with batteries of DSP chips, working realtime, coupled closely to the big dishes. Not to mention that buying a new supercomputer, instead of starting this distributed computing effort would have helped US IT industry (IBM/Cray/SGI/TI and Sun). BTW, how many of the participants have read works of Sklovskij and Stanislaw Lem, before getting on the SETI haywaggon? If I know correctly Lem's on-topic "Master's Voice" from 1968 had not actually been translated into english so far. And I don't consider this posting of mine a fluff. I think SETI has less reason to stay in discussion on HPLX-L, than any other topic vehemently attacked by list purists. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:31:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: SETI distributed computing Comments: To: etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SETI is looking for "non-natural" noise - (what we would call "man-made" here on earth), not hoping to decode a message from another planet. Your presumption and strongly held position seems to be based on a firm grasp of an idea, based on mis-information. We are not trying to find out what the traffic is like on Venus (i.e. listen in on their radio broadcasts), we are trying to find out if there is anything other than random, natural, noise in the radio spectrum "out there." We do not use telescopes to peek in the windows of aliens, we use them to see if there *are* aliens, same for SETI, only the band of spectrum being reviewed is not light waves, but radio waves... Besides, most of us did for the cool screen saver anyway... ;¬) Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feher Tamas" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:21 PM Subject: Re: SETI distributed computing > Hello all, > > I have a problem with this alien search programme. Do you > actually believe that NASA is feeding you with real data? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 14:44:35 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Automatic Email? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does anyone know of a reliable service that can automatically send out emails which contain stock pricing info on a predetermined basis? In other words, if I am tracking a particular security does anyone know of a free service that can be set to auotmatically email me the price once or twice a day? FWIW, the email will be routed to my Lx so this post is 'on topic'. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- -- Republicans -> http://HillaryHell.com -- -- Democrats -> http://Hillary2K4.com -- -- Explosion? -> http://ReadyToExplode.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:00:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Convert multipage-TIFF -> something Lxpic can show? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi list Thanks to everone that suggested "View". I will look in to it soon. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:00:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 20:50:21 -0700, Richard and Patti Smith wrote: Richard > Why should I change the way I use my software just to make your > (or anyones else's) life easier? This pisses me off. What attitude is this?? I am seldom pissed, but now I am. > (What have you done to improve > my life?) What Owen has done and most people on this list do is answering the questions you might have about the Hp200Lx. And they are doeing a hell of a good job I might add. > It is YOUR choice to connect via a slow cell-phone > modem. Yes ofcourse. But what gives you the right to clog up this list with things that do not help in getting your message across? I fail to see what Owen's or mine bandwidth has to do with you attaching things that do not enhance the quality of your message??? (I am awere that the Vcard thing was a mistake..but I am talking "in general" here) > Despite my love and use of the DOS-based HP 200LX, That is maybe the only thing we have in common. And it should be enough for you to understand that If I use a Hplx to read this list it is importent to me that the messages are not larger than needed. > it > makes more sense for me to send HTML e-mail and vCards. I use the Hplx to read this list. I also connect with a cellphone from time to time. I have therefore limited bandwidth and limited discspace. Therefor I do _not_ want to see things on this very good list that are of no use for me or others. > As Mr. > Spock would say: the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the > few. What the hell?? What kind of attitude is this? I am sure that if your "standard" is the standard on this list then I am sure that you will drive away many of the best people here and the list will die. Is that what you want? > Besides, I receive the digest (sometimes on my 200LX) and > have no problems with it. Well many has a problem with it. It should be sufficent that one person has a problem with it. Your Vcards and Htmlmails does not improve your message in _any_ way so why should you send them??(se above.."in general") > I suggest a bit more patience from those on the list when a > person makes a simple mistake and forgets to turn off their > vCard! I am glad that you may have come to the conclusion that Vcards has nothing to do on this list. I hope you also see my points above. > > Please do not send _any_ attachments to the list. No HTML, no > vcards and no winmail.dat! > > So what about 9-line signatures? (See below.) Are they OK? No they are not. > Do > you have to send all that information with every e-mail? No he does not. > How > many more bytes would that add to a digest download if every > list member did it? Do not know, but you are right..it will add more not needed. > It seems to me that a line or two would > suffice. Yes I agree. > As you can tell, I'm getting a little annoyed by all of this! You can not start to imagine what I feel about your message. I do not want to start a flamewar. I have cooled down some and apologise if I have been harsh in my statements. But I hope you see my point. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:00:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Cracked Case Replacement Availability? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 07:31:02 -0500, Victor Roberts wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:24:59 -0600, Hal Goldstein wrote: > > > > The bad news is that we probably won't get them for 4 months. We are about > > to place our order. My question is how many of you think you might want to > > buy these back up cases (in what quantity) say for $25? > > At $25 each, I would purchase at least two, just to be sure. Me too. Hal did you get my mail I sent you in private? Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 17:03:41 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Wittkamper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Wittkamper Subject: Re: SETI distributed computing Comments: To: etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Feher; Good thing you are here to detect those government plots. John :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Feher Tamas To: Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: Re: SETI distributed computing > Hello all, > > I have a problem with this alien search programme. Do you > actually believe that NASA is feeding you with real data? > > I mean considering what the USA is like, if there is a real > s.reception, the gov't people would firstly assume the > contents were about some superbomb. (Deciphering a > message in an unknown code is not trivial and S. Lem is > probably right, that the process and result of breaking the > code is more characteristic of present-day earthly situations, > rather than the senders). > > Now, if there is a find, NASA tells Bush II, Bush II tells CIA to > cover up. Obviously this action is easily performed if all > people around the world actually got fed junk data and find > was in fact from a gov't super-computer. The USA may have > actually started this Internet project after receiving something > from heavens, as a method to steal time for decipher. > > I am sure no amount of PCs can compete with a specialized > supercomputer, reinforced with batteries of DSP chips, > working realtime, coupled closely to the big dishes. Not to > mention that buying a new supercomputer, instead of starting > this distributed computing effort would have helped US IT > industry (IBM/Cray/SGI/TI and Sun). > > BTW, how many of the participants have read works of > Sklovskij and Stanislaw Lem, before getting on the SETI > haywaggon? If I know correctly Lem's on-topic "Master's > Voice" from 1968 had not actually been translated into > english so far. > > And I don't consider this posting of mine a fluff. I think SETI > has less reason to stay in discussion on HPLX-L, than any > other topic vehemently attacked by list purists. > > Sincerely: Tamas Feher. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 17:13:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff Automatic Email? Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Jeff wrote: >Does anyone know of a reliable service that can automatically send out >emails which contain stock pricing info on a predetermined basis? In other >words, if I am tracking a particular security does anyone know of a free >service that can be set to auotmatically email me the price once or twice a >day? FWIW, the email will be routed to my Lx so this post is 'on topic'. Some of the brokerage firms have automatic e-mail features when a stock hits a target price. That having been said I would not rely on them soley. You don't want to find out that you misssed buying your desired stock because the e-mail notification system is flawed. I don't know of a free service that does it. I would also point out that many sites do offer free quotes and let you set up a "porftfolio" that will be remembered. If you want to buy a stock at particulary price, your best bet is to track it manually yourself. I have found e-mail notification to unrealiable at best. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:07:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Paledit and line wrapping question When I open an ascii file with paledit that has lines that are greater than 80 characters the lines are not wrapped. The only way I know to fix this is to highlight the whole document and do a "fromat paragraph". This can be somewhat time consuming on large files. is there an easier way? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:13:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:56:31 -0800 Longden Loo a =E9crit: > Since this is an item mentioned in the One-Stop-Palmtop Shop, my gut > feeling is that the card is ATA. All Sundisk/Sandisk PCMCIA flash cards are ATA, since the begining. The F1013A was one of the first serie. Don't remember about the voltage (you are probably true to say it is a 12V), but it should be marked inside the card reference number (you must see "12" or "5"). But, since, Sandisk has changed its technology, and it is very possible that new readers can't read these cards... Jacques. --=20 The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... --------------------------- adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:18:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , geologist@MINDSPRING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "William E. Blankenship" Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi, > Bill, > > I am curious now! What software is needed on the palmtop.... > I thought ZIP drives need some special drivers, The only files that I need on my palmtop are as follows: ASPIPPM1.SYS GUEST.EXE GUEST.INI NIBBLE.ILM These files can be found on the installation disk. If you need one I can send it to you. Just let me know. The total disk space to store these files is only 56,351 bytes. Once the Transdigital card is correctly initialized, run Guest on the palmtop. The transfer rate is a bit slow but it is a very useful combination, the 200LX and Zip Drive. You wouldn't believe the amazement this combination received the first time I demonstrated it . The people I work with hold the 200LX in high esteem. > as do the Ditto Max drives..... I can't speak to this point about the Ditto Max Drives. They may be a bit different as compared to the Zip Drive. WEB ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:42:41 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: pnr question Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >The HP has always been very picky about the apname.lst file. (the hp >keeps one for a: and one for c:) Since you've installed pnr (an exm) >into appmgr, it adds it to apname.lst. But by pulling the a: disk, and >inserting the modem, the hp recognizes that apname.lst is GONE. Even >when reinstalled it may cause the problems you see. Okay. So now I know the problem. How do I solve it? Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:42:48 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: pnr question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:13:38 -0500 >With version 3.2 you can paste into the dialog box if you have copied >something into the clipboard buffer before you open the dialog box. My >understanding is that David Becher's update to PNR will let you swap to >a database file while the dialog box is open, but I haven't tried it yet. So David, where can I get a copy of the new version wherein I can swap between a database file while the compose mail dialog box is open. Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 15:27:04 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Peter A. Castro" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter A. Castro" Subject: Re: Paledit and line wrapping question Comments: To: Ed Padin In-Reply-To: <02b501c08591$5209cce0$250110ac@openreach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Ed Padin wrote: > When I open an ascii file with paledit that has lines that are greater than > 80 characters the lines are not wrapped. The only way I know to fix this is > to highlight the whole document and do a "fromat paragraph". This can be > somewhat time consuming on large files. is there an easier way? That's easy. Do ÝMenu¨->Format->Right_Margin and set it to what you like. Then put the cursor somewhere in the paragraph and press Esc-q. Note, that for the text to be considdered part of the paragraph there must not be any leading spaces on those lines. The easiest way to exclude lines from the paragraph (so they aren't reformatted) is to have a blank line before and after the paragraph. Another way of setting the margin is to place the cursor at the column position you want to wrap, then press ¬Xf (this sets the right margin) then Esc-q to re-format it. -- Peter A. Castro or ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:05:31 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: FLUFF: Free gift for a lucky Palm Pilot user MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Results of the "competition" for the QuickSheet licence! Long post. Delete/Ignore if you're in anti-fluffy mode. I thought I was going to enjoy this - making someone happy. Instead I had seven entries and now I'm going to have to upset six people. I thought of having some scientific basis for the decision, so I came up with a point scoring system which I've popped into a table below. Replies (chronologically) were from: 1) Bob-pkc (sorry don't know your surname (unless it's pkc!)) 2) Mike Kopplin 3) John Vander Stel 4) Domingo Diaz 5) Nathalie Bugeaud 6) Alex Chan 7) David Ball Who | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | -------------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Points for speed | 6 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 | Gave a reason | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 1 | 1 | Mentioned kittens | | 1 | | 1 | |0.5| | Offered a bribe | | | | | 1 | | | Made a threat | | 1 | | | | 1 | | -------------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Total | 7 | 8 | 5 | 5 | 3 |3.5| 1 | Points of note: As you can see, Bob was first, and indeed special mention must be made of the fact only five minutes after I'd posted my offer for the freebie he sent me a reply saying (and I'm sure he'll forgive me if I paraphrase) "Me! Me! Send it to Me!". Later, after he'd had time to read what it was I was offering, he sent me another message listing reasons! Alex Chan gets half a point for kittens. No kittens but hampsters was a close and interesting variation. David Ball got no points for speed (his entry was late). Nathalie was the only respondant who didn't actually say she wanted the s/w. I don't think she did, but she was also the only bribing entrant, offering sexual favours. I'm a computer programmer, Nathalie. At night I dream of the HP16C. Well, if life was fair & scientific, Mike Kopplin would have won. But it ain't. Well it ain't fair, that's for certain. So at the end of it all, I stuck the names in a (HP-solver) hat: Winner=3DINT(RAN#*7+1) And the winning ticket is... +---------+ | * | | ** | | * | | * | | * | | *** | +---------+ So, congrats to Bob, commiserations to the other galant entrants. Please don't hate me too much. ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:54:27 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: SETI distributed computing Comments: To: etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU In-Reply-To: <3A6DF5E6.8195.45D00@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Do you actually believe that NASA is feeding you with real data? Oh, wow! You mean NASA is fabricating the data? Hmmm... This is amazing. I would have never thought this was possible. I am so glad to opened my eyes to that possibility! >I mean considering what the USA is like, if there is a real >s.reception, the gov't people would firstly assume the >contents were about some superbomb. Yes, exactly, really nasty conspiracy. >Now, if there is a find, NASA tells Bush II, Bush II tells CIA to >cover up. Obviously this action is easily performed if all >people around the world actually got fed junk data and find >was in fact from a gov't super-computer. This is an eye opener! Who would have thunk that Bush II is an operative of NASA and that the CIA covers up things that happen in the USA! >The USA may have actually started this Internet project after receiving >something >from heavens, as a method to steal time for decipher. Hmm... And we all innocently thought Gore started the Internet - although coming to think about it, he never said _why_ he started it! Tamas, you are a genius! >I am sure no amount of PCs can compete with a specialized supercomputer, >reinforced with batteries of DSP chips, working realtime, coupled closely >to the big dishes. Not to mention that buying a new supercomputer, instead >of starting >this distributed computing effort would have helped US IT industry >(IBM/Cray/SGI/TI and Sun). Yes, of course, naturally. uhu! >BTW, how many of the participants have read works of Sklovskij and >Stanislaw Lem, before getting on the SETI haywaggon? I did. > If I know correctly Lem's on-topic "Master's Voice" from 1968 had not > actually been translated into english so far. Yes, I read it in another language. >And I don't consider this posting of mine a fluff. I think SETI has less >reason to stay in discussion on HPLX-L, than any other topic vehemently >attacked by list purists. Oh, no! It is not fluff! It is essential, it is central, it is a warning to all Palmtopppers: Watch for the government running secret operations to undemine world efforts for peace. I am so glad this message escaped my usual filtering... I feel much relieved to know the truth, to have a glimpse at the inner truth, to have mastered a small part of global domination but, as revealed by the Magyar Master Feher. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 17:34:07 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Automatic Email? Comments: To: Jeff In-Reply-To: <200101232044.f0NKiZo18384@mail.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/23/01 -0600, you wrote: >Does anyone know of a reliable service that can automatically send out >emails which contain stock pricing info on a predetermined basis? Relaible? Well... I am not surte. I sometimes use YAHOO.COM. Click on Mobile, on ALERTS in the MOBILE PHONE list... Then CREATE a STOCK ALERT. Then comes the arcane interface. You create a portfolio, and specify the stocks in it. Then you keep creating alerts, and each one you specify the stocks and time. It is tedious and basically I found it to be a major pain. It is not always on time, and not always reliably arriving. The worst is that the quotes are delayed 15 mins for NASDAQ and 20 for other exchanges. It is free though. You can send it to mobile phone, to pager, email address, etc. Hope this helps. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:45:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Automatic Email? Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010123172905.00abae30@mail.alwaysafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for the info regarding the automatic emailing. I am following a couple of stocks, but not timing on them isn't really an issue, I ust like to see what they are doing throughout the day without having to use the web to check the financial sites or my broker's site. Thanks to all for the info..... Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:52:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: SETI distributed computing Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010123164059.00ac05f0@mail.alwaysafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, A Meshar wrote: > Yes, exactly, really nasty conspiracy. This is gonna be one of those scary moments when Avi I are on the same team :) I claim to be the biggest conspiracy theorist on the list and find the email from earlier today to be quite funny. The conspiracy doesn't have anything to do with finding intelligent life 'out there' as we have already found it. It crashed in Roswell in the late 1940's. Look at how technology increased immediately in the years following the crash. Remember all those spy satellites we had in the midst of the Cold War? They weren't to spy on the Russians, they were to spy on the alien outpost in Siberia. The Russians knew what we were doing and allowed it. They also allowed the fly-overs by the U2's but since the real reason we were spying was only known by those high in the Russian military we unfortunately had one shot down by Russian troops who merely thought they were defending their country. I encourage everyone to read 'The Day After Roswell' by Lt Col Corso. Read it with an open mine and you might be surprised that you may find yourself questioning your previous beliefs about what is 'out there' Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:14:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: Free gift for a lucky Palm Pilot user Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris Randle wrote: > Nathalie was the only respondant who didn't actually say she > wanted the s/w. I don't think she did, but she was also the > only bribing entrant, offering sexual favours. I'm a computer > programmer, Nathalie. At night I dream of the HP16C. You must dream in hex, not is sex. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:16:46 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: FLUFF: Free gift for a lucky Palm Pilot user MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Nathalie was the only respondant who didn't actually say she >wanted the s/w. I don't think she did, but she was also the >only bribing entrant, offering sexual favours. I'm a computer >programmer, Nathalie. At night I dream of the HP16C. Nathalie...of course. What a delight this woman is !! We are so lucky to have her on our esoteric little list ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:35:17 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Hmmmmmmmm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Pocket PC all set for launch in Bangkok Product to be unveiled next week by HP, Microsoft, Compaq and Central Trading Microsoft (Thailand) Ltd in cooperation with Compaq Computer, Hewlett-Packard and Central Trading Co Ltd will jointly hold the official launch of the Pocket PC in Thailand on January 31 between 8:30 and noon at the Siam Intercontinental Hotel. Herbert Vongpusanachai, manager of the Microsoft E-Commerce Group, will deliver a speech on the Pocket PC in the corporate environment: "Microsoft's Vision for Mobility". 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Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 18:41:25 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: SETI distributed computing Comments: To: Jeff In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Jeff, At 1/23/01 -0600, you wrote: >On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, A Meshar wrote: > > > Yes, exactly, really nasty conspiracy. > >This is gonna be one of those scary moments when Avi I are on the same >team :) Scary indeed. But Roswell? Spy satellites? Nah! Communist USSR "allowing" U2 overflights? They could see these things, let alone reach it. Until their technology came up to snuff and nearly snuffed Powers. Well, anyway for a brief moment, a scary moment, we joined in giggling about the Great Magyar Conspiracy Theory. Then we drifted again.. Well, I like you anyway - you've got spunk, my friend! Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:02:13 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: SETI distributed computing Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010123183314.00aba560@mail.alwaysafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 sponsor@ftel.net wrote: > Scary indeed. But Roswell? Spy satellites? Nah! Communist USSR "allowing" > U2 overflights? They could see these things, let alone reach it. Until > their technology came up to snuff and nearly snuffed Powers. How could they see such things? There were no satellitels such as we have today. Remote Siberia could only be checked by fly-overs. I really encourage you to read Col Corso's book. It is quite an eye-opener. > Well, I like you anyway - you've got spunk, my friend! Ditto! Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:35:08 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: pnr question Oliver Chua writes: > >The HP has always been very picky about the apname.lst file. (the hp > >keeps one for a: and one for c:) Since you've installed pnr (an exm) > >into appmgr, it adds it to apname.lst. But by pulling the a: disk, and > >inserting the modem, the hp recognizes that apname.lst is GONE. Even > >when reinstalled it may cause the problems you see. > > Okay. So now I know the problem. How do I solve it? Can't you fit PNR on your C:\ drive? It's only 75 kbytes. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:50:46 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: FLUFF: The Fluff Factor: More! Comments: To: martin@MOBILPOST.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin, et al; I do see your points. I'm sorry if my attitude pisses you off, I understand and I apologize for my arrogance. Sorry to be a PITA. Regarding the use of slow connections by some list members: The more benevolent thing for me to do would be to keep my extraneous bytes to a minimum, so I will. But, seriously, can you answer my question? (Other than benevolence, why should I change the way I use my software just to make your (or anyones else's) life easier?) Actually, I am, for the most part, a lurker on this list. I have rarely, if ever, had the need to ask questions, and when I have, I've gotten a few helpful answers, but nothing earth-shaking, no great epiphanies. Perhaps this is because I've been using DOS since the mid-80's and I'm mighty familiar with it, and I have my degree in Computer Science. I mostly read the list for the information about other/new/interesting uses for the Palmtop. The list has been fun and interesting, but it's usefulness seems to be diminishing; although I do not wish for it to die - which is one reason why I haven't unsubscribed already. I suggest that in addition to avoiding HTML-mail, vCards, etc. we also limit signatures to no more that 3 lines. And, as I've said before, a bit of patience in the list would be beneficial as well. Regards, Richard > From: Martin Bergvill > > This pisses me off. What attitude is this?? I am seldom pissed, but now > I am. > ... > What Owen has done and most people on this list do is answering the > questions you might have about the Hp200Lx. And they are doeing a hell > of a good job I might add. > ... > What the hell?? What kind of attitude is this? I am sure that if your > "standard" is the standard on this list then I am sure that you will > drive away many of the best people here and the list will die. Is that > what you want? > I am glad that you may have come to the conclusion that Vcards has > nothing to do on this list. I hope you also see my points above. > > > So what about 9-line signatures? (See below.) Are they OK? > > No they are not. > > > Do > > you have to send all that information with every e-mail? > > No he does not. > > > It seems to me that a line or two would > > suffice. > > Yes I agree. > > > As you can tell, I'm getting a little annoyed by all of this! > > You can not start to imagine what I feel about your message. I do not > want to start a flamewar. I have cooled down some and apologise if I > have been harsh in my statements. But I hope you see my point. > > Regards > > -- > Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:21:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Automatic Email? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Does anyone know of a reliable service that can automatically send out > emails which contain stock pricing info on a predetermined basis? Try www.infobeat.com for one option. They send me an E-mail daily with = closing prices on my selected stocks Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:53:02 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: pnr question Oliver Chua writes: > >With PNR version 3.6 I use my phonebook as my address book using smart clip > >to copy email addresses from the phone book into the relevant fields of > >the email form. > >I place email addresses in the "Alternate" field in the phone book and > >have a smart clip which I called name and email which clips the data as > >Name > > I assume you enter the addresses during the entry dialog box. What do you > do when you want to send to multiple addresses? I copy and paste again. > I understand a bug of PNR > is that it won't allow you to switch to another program when the dialog box > is up. I'm sorry if I didnt make myself clear. In version3.6 of PNR this has been FIXED. you can now switch from the mail dialog box to the built in applications by hitting any of the blue keys! > I am not aware of purposely deleting apname.lst and I do exit all open > programs before using maxdos to dial the modem. You are correct in > assuming that I use a PC card modem and have pnr installed on drive a: of a > Memory card. I only have a 2mb HP200lx model. The spool directory is in > drive c: but pnr is run on drive a: (memory card) which I insert (of course > with the lx off) replacing the modem card after getting my mail. I fail to > see how this could be my problem. I have other programs like freecell, HV, > powermon, etc on drive a: but none of them give me this problem after a > mail run. Could you explain what I'm doing wrong? PNR is an EXM (System Manager Compliant program), which means its regstration with application manager works differently to normal exe programs. AS I use a serial line modem I cant really help you with this. Maybe someone else on the list with a bit of experience with this can answer the following question: What happens to the registration of an EXM program which is on drive a: if we swap drive a: for a MODEM and then swap back? Is there a workaround for this to work? -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:58:00 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: pnr question Theodore Heise writes: > Oliver Chua writes: > > > > I assume you enter the addresses during the entry dialog box. What do you > > do when you want to send to multiple addresses? > > I select multiple addresses and SmartClip them all at once. This works > pretty well, up to a point. If there are a lot of addresses it takes > some editing. IIRC there was also another bug, in that smart clips always end with a carriage return line feed combination, and these would be pasted into the edit box of the PNR dialog box as well as the text, appearing as a "musical note" symbol, which you would also have to erase. This has also been fixed in PNR version 3.6 Does it appear that I am trying to "sell" this version? I "improved" PNR because for me it is an extremely useful tool, and now that Rod Whitby is no longer able to maintain it, I didnt want to let it die. -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 21:24:53 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Auto-generation from HTTP, was: Re: Fluff Automatic Email? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I took the liberty to remove fluff because I think this may be useful to on other subjects. I have a win32 utility to retrieve HTML source code from external HTTP site. (Actually only those can be retrieved by URL, i.e. no cookies, etc.) Any way, conceivable, one can set up scheduled events to run a batch file. In the batch file, the HTML source is retrieved and parsed using Perl or HTMSTRIP, and then an email may be generated if necessary. I haven't done any search but there may exist other more mature utility to retrieve HTML source code. Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Ken London To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 2:20 PM Subject: Re: Fluff Automatic Email? >>Jeff wrote: > >>Does anyone know of a reliable service that can automatically send out >>emails which contain stock pricing info on a predetermined basis? In other >>words, if I am tracking a particular security does anyone know of a free >>service that can be set to auotmatically email me the price once or twice a >>day? FWIW, the email will be routed to my Lx so this post is 'on topic'. > >Some of the brokerage firms have automatic e-mail features when a >stock hits a target price. That having been said I would not rely on >them soley. You don't want to find out that you misssed buying your >desired stock because the e-mail notification system is flawed. I don't >know of a free service that does it. I would also point out that many sites >do offer free quotes and let you set up a "porftfolio" that will be remembered. > >If you want to buy a stock at particulary price, your best bet is to track it >manually yourself. I have found e-mail notification to unrealiable at best. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 05:38:30 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: pnr question Comments: To: Oliver Chua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >The HP has always been very picky about the apname.lst file. (the hp > >keeps one for a: and one for c:) Since you've installed pnr (an exm) > >into appmgr, it adds it to apname.lst. But by pulling the a: disk, and > >inserting the modem, the hp recognizes that apname.lst is GONE. Even > >when reinstalled it may cause the problems you see. > > Okay. So now I know the problem. How do I solve it? Move pnr to c: ???? I'm sure of any other remedy - possibly copy apname.lst with pnr and restore (copy back) after running the modem component. I have not played with apname.lst in ages - since using more.exm which allows more than the 8 or 9 entries permitted in apname.lst. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 05:38:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Hmmmmmmmm Comments: To: hobchi@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Pocket PC all set for launch in Bangkok > Product to be unveiled next week by HP, > Microsoft, Compaq and Central Trading How many times can MS re-introduce win-ce? Or have they finally just decided to outright steal the palm patent and win in court by attacking the palm patent! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 03:04:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jacques Belin wrote: > I pass half of my time, before reading the list, to reconstruct manualy > the threads. :-( WWW/LX does a good job at reconstructing the threads by typing CTRL-T and SUBJECT. It does not make a real thread but at least orders the digests messages in a more logical fashion. \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 03:04:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > The palmtop can display 64 chars in 18 lines in the middle font. My default margin is set at 78 char/line. Is it possible to have WWW/LX pass the right margin setting as an argument to PE when launching it for replies to the mailing list ? (e.g. c:\PE.EXE /wrap=3D64 ) \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 03:04:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Truncated weatherfaxes (Was "DOS palmtop with..") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Wefax is an analogue transmission that sends a high note for white and = a low note for black. It does not send low pulses for black, a black line = is > a continuous low note. I know, because I have listened to it on my = shortwave receiver. This would indicate that the difference between high > resolution and low resolution reception is indeed how often the signal = is sampled. Could it be that the Weather Fax software is writting the sampled HF signal, or the retrieved disk file, DIRECTLY to the video memory of the display card. The CGA video memory addressing is from B000 to B7FF. This will be different for VGA or SVGA. I suppose that the WeatherFax software is sensing the resolution of the attached video card and then adapts its sampling frequency of the HF signal to the detected screen resolution. This would explain why the resolution is hardware dependant both in direct reception and display of saved files. Is it possible to fool the weatherfax software into believing that the HP200LX has a VGA display and then redirect the memory writes to a diskfile instead of the video memory ? In the old days some utilities enabled to fool games software into believing they had a CGA card while an Hercules card (higher resolution) was indeed installed. \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:34:49 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: stefan.peichl@EPOST.DE Subject: Re: 5th proportional font (was: 4.font (6x8 pixel)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G=FCnther Eisele wrote: > > The 4.font of the palmtop is a 6 pixel wide x 8 pixel high > > ...and there is a 5th font, which I'm using when reading mails - > the font which is downloadable in the archive fonts.zip from your > webpage. Indeed you may create numerous other fonts, but we were only talking about the built in fonts, not those you have to design before uploading to the bitmap data stack. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:41:04 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for DOS? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I had a Acrobat reader that worked on the hp200lx. But it was not able > to read newer pdf files. So I deleted it and only use the pdf to text > email acrobat to text There was a DOS Acrobat Reader in Lib 1 of the Compuserve HPHAND forum. I = have nnot checked if it passed along to the new PALMTOP forum after consolidation. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:06:47 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: Paledit and line wrapping question Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Set the margin as required and Ctrl-X H to select whole buffer then ESC-Q. You should be all set. However, on a doc I just tried, I got twice the message"cannot break line" or something. Anybody knows why? Etienne Lemaire ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Padin To: Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 12:07 AM Subject: Paledit and line wrapping question > When I open an ascii file with paledit that has lines that are greater than > 80 characters the lines are not wrapped. The only way I know to fix this is > to highlight the whole document and do a "fromat paragraph". This can be > somewhat time consuming on large files. is there an easier way? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:45:08 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Avi wrote: > I thought ZIP drives need some special drivers, > as do the Ditto Max drives. AFAIK, there are no > such drivers available for DOS that would run > on our lowly chip. There is a parallel port Zip driver that works on 8088/8086 computers using at least DOS 2.11 available from http://www.palmzip.de/. It is said to work with Toshiba T1000-series, ATARI Portfolio, ZEOS Pocket PC, POQET PC, PC3000-series palmtops. There is also a downloadable demo available at that site. Robert Feldman Robert_Feldman@jdedwards.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:25:03 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Re: SETI to see if there are aliens at all? Comments: To: n2vip@BELLATLANTIC.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, 7F00,0000,0000> We do not use telescopes to peek in the windows of aliens, we > use them to see if there *are* aliens. 0100,0100,0100Oh, I though only ultra-conservative religious fundamentalists ques- tion the existance of a multitude of populated worlds, not NASA. Silentum Universii, if exists (better say non-exists) must be related to the unfeasibility of radio technology for the purpose of briding thousands of light years; or maybe noone finds any worthy topic to discuss over cosmic phone out there, 'cause they are so different. Trying to detect non-deliberate, junk electromagnetic emission of cosmic activity (say, the omnidirectional impluses from an auto- matic beacon directing interstellar rockets) seems hopeless for me. So, if there will be a reception, it will have content to break as well. Sincerely: Tamas Feher ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:27:38 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I thought ZIP drives need some special > drivers, as do the Ditto Max drives. > AFAIK, there are no such drivers available > for DOS that would run on our lowly chip. Zip drives do come with Dos drivers but they claim to need at least an 80286 cpu. The 80186 cpu has all the opcodes of the 286 that don't involve protected mode. Most 286 programs don't need protected mode and will run on the LX just fine. Some do need protected mode and they'll fail. Fortunately protected mode wasn't very well developed in the 286. It was hard to get back out of so most software didn't use it. I've used the Zip drive with a Nec V20 cpu a number of times. The V20 is an 80186 clone. I haven't used it with my LX but I know a lot of people have. If I remember right, Transdigital even made a couple of adjustments to their card to make it work better with the LX, at the request of someone on Compuserve's HPHAND. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 10:33:57 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: .4 font (6x8) pixel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The 4.font of the palmtop is a 6 pixel wide x 8 pixel high font. > That means, you get 25 lines with 105 characters out of it. Thanks for that information. And for the demo. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:07:31 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: SETI distributed computing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > We are not trying to find out what the traffic > is like on Venus (i.e. listen in on their radio > broadcasts), we are trying to find out if there > is anything other than random, natural, noise > in the radio spectrum "out there." Have you considered the possibility that the venusians communicate in random, natural noise? They might have their own seti program that seems to get no-where because it can find nothing but patterns. What if they do contact us and all they want is to borrow a cup of sugar? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:13:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: The Fluff Factor; was: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > You can not start to imagine what I feel about > your message. I do not want to start a flamewar. His answer was arrogant but there's no law against that. Maybe he's reading "Atlas Shrugged". Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:33:17 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" <> Note we (and the Trans Digital supplier) just found out that the card will NOT work with newer 250MB drives! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:25:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Folts, Doug" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Folts, Doug" Subject: Long Phone Numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm trying to use a calling card with cc:Mail. I'm using a ThinFax modem. It says "Modem reported command error" when I set up a phone number as 1800123456,,12345678901,,1234567890 In other words, I'm dialing my calling card (the 800#), pausing with the commas, dialing the e-mail number, pausing, and entering the PIN number. Can this be done with the normal ATDT modem command or is the number too long? Any suggestions? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:37:28 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit William E. Blankenship wrote: > Once the Transdigital card is correctly initialized, run Guest Is this card still available? Cost? Where? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:38:53 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc - Subject: -Problem SOLVED- (was Re: WWW/LX and the Motorola ST7868W problems) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sucess! Thanks to John Musielewicz for pointing out the problem. The Radio Shack brand, 9 pin null modem was the culprit. Seems this particular null modem connects pins 1&4 together. On John's suggestion, I built another null modem which swaps pins 2&3, 4&6, and 7&8. The Startac and WWW/LX are working as expected now. Thanks again John. Marcus zaaap@earthlink.net > Please note that I can use the lx's built in Datacom application to > connect to my ISP, but cannot with WWW/LX. I am using the exact same > connections for both applications. The connection is as follows: > Startac 7868W <-> Startac data cable <-> null modem (Radio Shack brand) > <-> HP 200LX connectivity pack cable <-> HP 200LX > > The phone also works fine with my HP Pentium laptop... flawlessly in > fact. > > When I attempt to dial in using WWW/LX, the following occurs: > > WWW/LX reports "connecting to xxxxx". Then immediately after it reports > this, WWW/LX shows "hanging up". And this is my problem. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:11:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: FLUFF: Free gift for a lucky Palm Pilot user Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:05:31 +0000 (GMT), Chris Randle wrote: Chris > I thought of having some scientific basis for the decision, so > I came up with a point scoring system which I've popped into a > table below. LOL :-)) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:40:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: FLUFF: The Fluff Factor: More! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Richard > I do see your points. That is what I hoped. > I'm sorry if my attitude pisses you off, I understand and I apologize > for my arrogance. Apology accepted. > Sorry to be a PITA. No no don't be so hard on yourself :-) > Regarding the use of slow connections by some list members: The more > benevolent thing for me to do would be to keep my extraneous bytes to > a minimum, so I will. Thanks. ("benevolent thing"="noble thing"?) > But, seriously, can you answer my question? I thought I did in the first message? > (Other than > benevolence, why should I change the way I use my software just to > make your (or anyones else's) life easier?) Okey here we go again (in general and not sorted by importence): 1. Vcards: If I want to contact you in any other way than email then I can mail you and get your details. I see it as a waste of bandwidth to add this to every mail to the list. (How many times have you needed the Vcarddetails of anyone?(on mail or maillist?) 2. Html-mails:Waste of bandwidth. Does only add size to the message. My mailer does not support them.(Do you think that what you write are better understood by others if they are formatted with colors or other htmlthings?) 3. Quoting: I see no point in quoting more than the thing(s) you reply too. In a message I usually does not have something to say about _all_ the things the orginal poster wrote. 4. Replies to a message on a maillist/newsgroup should _always_ go to the maillist/newsgroup. If you feel that the contents are offtopic or sensitive then send mail to the emailadress only and not to the maillist/newsgroup. (I got youR message on list _and_ to my private emailaccount which are also sent as textmessages to my cellphone=not needed!) 5. Fluffmessages are allowed but should be held to a minimum. People in newsgroups/maillist are often experienced in other areas. 6. Replies are to Be put below the quoted text. (What is the logic to read a answer first and then scroll down to the question? No question first and answer below. 7. Netiquette:It is polite to do what the regular members do when you enter a maillist/newsgroup/bar..(Example: If I enter a bar and are not polite (1-4 above) then I will get in trouble and eventually be twrown out. (Just a example) The "rules" 1-7 above are the rules of newsgroups. I have no problem in seeing that they make sense. They make _very_ sense here because there is a higher chance that the people you post to here has limited bandwidth and diskspace.(=Hplx/cellphone) If you have to do changes to your mailer to comply/to be polite, then I think you should do it. > Actually, I am, for the most part, a lurker on this list. Thats okey too. > I have rarely, if ever, had the > need to ask questions, and when I > have, I've gotten a few helpful answers, but nothing > earth-shaking, > no great epiphanies. Well thats you. I have used the Hplx for many years, but I still find the tips I get here very usefull. Also the discussions on what to do next is interesting for me. I see nothing out there that do what my Hplx do. > Perhaps this is because I've been using DOS since the > mid-80's and I'm mighty familiar with it, I am very familiar with DOS too. I too have used it since the mid 80's. But I do not feel that I know everything. So I might find this list more interesting than you. > and I have my degree in Computer Science. Almost there myself. Computer Engineer. But my experience with dos has almost nothing to do with the things I did at school/university. > I > mostly read the list for the information about > other/new/interesting uses for the Palmtop. Yes. At first I got a lot of tips and I had a lot of questions. Lately I do mostly as you do. > The list has been fun and interesting, but it's usefulness seems to > be diminishing; Yes that is sadly a fact. But I am sure that the Hplx and this list still have a future. > although I do not wish for it to die - which is one reason why I > haven't unsubscribed already. I am happy to hear that. I will be subscribed here as long as I can. _But_ if I can not use my Hplx to read this list then I am sure that it will just be a matter of time before I have to drop out. > I suggest that in addition to avoiding HTML-mail, vCards, etc. we also > limit signatures to no more that 3 lines. I agree. I would also like to see that the quoting is "to the point". I mean that people only quote what is necessary. I deleted about 50 lines of text that was not necessary for the meaning of this message. > And, as I've said before, a bit of patience in the list would be > beneficial as well. Yes ofcourse. I am sorry for blowing a fuse. Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:38:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russel, > Is this card still available? Cost? Where? I believe that Thaddeus still supplies these cards. WEB ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:52:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hal, > Note we (and the Trans Digital supplier) just found out that the card will > NOT work with newer 250MB drives! Do you have any ideas why this is the case? I wonder if this drive and the drivers require a specific type of parallel interface, i.e. EPP or ECP. WEB ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:54:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: FLUFF: Free gift for a lucky Palm Pilot user Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi, > You must dream in hex, not is sex. Can I borrow this line? ROTFLMAO!!!! WEB ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:32:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Long Phone Numbers Comments: To: "Folts, Doug" In-Reply-To: <3A6F0372F39ED411A65700A0C9E1FABC070D38@mad_io> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Can this be done with the normal >>ATDT modem command or is the number too long? Any suggestions? most newer modems have a command to wait for the bong sound when making a credit card call BUT mine only seems to recognize the AT&T bong sound. you need to check your modem manual but most modems can handle a 40 character command string which should be enough for what you want to do ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:51:15 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: pnr question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> Okay. So now I know the problem. How do I solve it? > >Can't you fit PNR on your C:\ drive? It's only 75 kbytes. Ted, Thanks for wacking my head. I was being stingy in space for nothing after you brought out the fact that pnr was so small. I was afraid my mail folders were huge and realized that these can be separate to another drive/directory. Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:14:13 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: pnr question David Becher writes: > Does it appear that I am trying to "sell" this version? Maybe a bit. :) But now I think you've succeeded. Not having to see that stupid eighth note is the point that has put me over the edge--it's really a little thing, but I've found it increasingly annoying. > I "improved" PNR because for me it is an extremely useful tool, and now that > Rod Whitby is no longer able to maintain it, I didnt want to let it die. I've felt the same way, but just don't have the programming chops to do much. Thank you for your efforts! Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:32:55 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: Free gift for a lucky Palm Pilot user Comments: To: WEB In-Reply-To: <3A6F5D30.70B935CA@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > You must dream in hex, not is sex. > >Can I borrow this line? ROTFLMAO!!!! Sure - I'll send you my usual comedian contract... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:30:15 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Long Phone Numbers Comments: To: "Folts, Doug" In-Reply-To: <3A6F0372F39ED411A65700A0C9E1FABC070D38@mad_io> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >I'm using a ThinFax modem. It says "Modem reported command error" when I >set up a phone number as 1800123456,,12345678901,,1234567890 If I remember right, EXP cards could not handle more than 32 digits and characters in the dialling sequence. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:28:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Paledit and line wrapping question Comments: To: Etienne Lemaire In-Reply-To: <007e01c08606$a82fbb00$c39182c3@pandora.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/24/01 +0100, Etienne wrote: >However, on a doc I just tried, I got twice the message"cannot break line" >or something. Anybody knows why? As the program said - it tried to adjust the words on the line to fit in the margins that you specified. But it encountered a line that contained a word that was longer than it could fit within the margins. Example - a URL may cause this... PE breaks the line at spaces between words. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:02:22 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: FLUFF: Free gift for a lucky Palm Pilot user MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Results of the "competition" for the QuickSheet licence! >Long post. Delete/Ignore if you're in anti-fluffy mode. I'm in Avi-mode and therefore assume Chris is an under-employed genius who had plenty of spare time to enlighten us about the outcome of his generous offer of a license >So, congrats to Bob, commiserations to the other galant >entrants. Please don't hate me too much. Oh no, Chris, quite to the contrary - you have shown us that you can be very useful, like for creating exquisite stats. I love stats, i even did elective STATISTICS.101 at Uni. My reason was because most stats, like pseudoscience, abuse the truth. (see Carl Sagan "Demon-Haunted World" 1997). How about giving us a stat of the intensity of people on this list who get pissed off with whatever - it will help those responding to messages from suspect list members to not respond in kind; ie. if you are about to die of boredom, flame, or throw up, just go into Avi-mode instead. :) Nathalie... my greatest ambition - to help unravel the secrets of the universe - is moderately helped by Chris' massaged stats ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 11:24:11 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: pnr question Oliver Chua writes: > So David, where can I get a copy of the new version wherein I can swap > between a database file while the compose mail dialog box is open. www.geocities.com/david_becher/PnrHome.html -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 07:26:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX In-Reply-To: <3A6F5CBB.7C73A1C5@mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Previous: > Note we (and the Trans Digital supplier) just found out that the card will > NOT work with newer 250MB drives! Actually they might if you stick with the older version of Guest. I have found this to be true on desktop systems. Using the newest drivers can be a problem. Thanks, Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:05:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Folts, Doug" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Folts, Doug" Subject: Re: Long Phone Numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for the insight of 32 digit limitation. Does the 56k Modem Thaddeus sells have this limitation? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >I'm using a ThinFax modem. It says "Modem reported command error" when I >set up a phone number as 1800123456,,12345678901,,1234567890 If I remember right, EXP cards could not handle more than 32 digits and characters in the dialling sequence. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:12:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Fluff: FS/FA Broken LX and accessories MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Before autioning the stuff off, I would give the readers of this list a chance to acquire some of the following stuff: - EXP ThinFax144 modem with 4 MB memory, complete with book and of course cable - asking Euro 100 /$100 - JetEye infrared printer port, ESI -9500A - asking Euro 50 /$50 - Upgrade your old 100LX to 2MB 200LX?: Battered 2MB 200LX, cracked and broken screen, broken battery cover, big hingecrack, motherboard and keyboard OK ( still use it to copy flashdisk overnight by IR between 200LX's ) - make me an offer I can't refuse. ( I was planning to upgrade a mint 100LX, but a colleague is eyeing that right now, so it is possibly sold by now) Please do not respond to the list, but directly to me. Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:13:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: PocketZip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone tried to use the Iomega PocketZip PCMCIA (previously known as CLIK) in the 200LX? Just wondered if it works, or if we can make it work. TIA, Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:42:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: PE on Omnibook 530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If anyone is running PE on an HP Omnibook 530 notebook I would greatly appreciate knowing your configuration: which version of PE, which version of PALRUN, INT5F or CGAGRAPH and your PE.CFG file if possible? When I run PE on my OB 530 with either PALRUN, INT5F OR CGAGRAPH, it locks up at the PE starting screen. Others have mentioned that PE & PALRUN work just fine on their desktops or perhaps other notebooks. I have confirmed that PE runs under PALRUN without problems in a DOS box on my Win95 desktop. What I would appreciate is some information on how it can be configured to run on an OB 530. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:02:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: "Market for handheld computers" story http://public.wsj.com/sn/y/SB980376610969470698.html Market for Hand-Held Computers Doubled Amid Slowing PC Sales By Pui-Wing Tam Staff Reporter of The Wall Street Journal Personal-computer sales may have slowed, but the U.S. market for hand-held computers doubled to more than $1 billion last year, according to a study being released Thursday. The study by market research firm, NPD Intelect, underscores the rising popularity of what are variously called organizers, pocket PCs and personal digital assistants. Revenues from selling such products hit $1.03 billion in 2000, more than twice the $436.5 million sold in 1999. In terms of unit growth, manufacturers sold 3.5 million devices in 2000, more than two-and-a-half times the 1999 figure of 1.3 million snip Companies that use Microsoft's Pocket PC software had mixed results. Casio Inc. saw its unit share decline to 6% in 2000 from 11% in 1999. Hewlett-Packard Co.'s share slipped to 2.3% from 2.9%. But Compaq Computer Co., which began shipping its iPaq device last year, grabbed 2% of the market, up from virtually nothing in 1999, NPD said. Hopefully, this demand can carry over to the 'refurbished' 200lx market. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:06:15 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Comparing 200LX TO PALM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This email is an attempt to compare the usage of the 200lx to a Palm = unit. So far. the experience has been disconcerting. One of the more = obvious changes is the lack of a keyboard. Having prefected the art of = thumbtyping, it's quite different working with a unit that requires one = to either learn Graffiti or use the onscreen keyboard.=20 Once you get used to using an onscreen keyboard, the other details start = to fall into place. =20 The backlight on the unit is quite good. It's very usable in dark = conditions=20 =20 David Ball Mixrosoft Certified Professional ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:12:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Schindler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Schindler Subject: Re: "Market for handheld computers" story MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The study by market research firm, NPD Intelect, underscores the rising > popularity of what are variously called organizers, pocket PCs and personal > digital assistants. Revenues from selling such products hit $1.03 billion in > 2000 Just goes to show "what could have been" had HP actually marketed the 200LX. Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:00:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Schindler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Schindler Subject: InfoSelect (.exm?!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This might be of interest to the IS users. I was looking for database utils on Super and stumbled upon FFDB. I just installed it and copied my base.wd into the c:\ffdb directory and opened it right up! The current version can be found at http://www.hplx.net/downloads.html It's looking pretty good! Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:55:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Schindler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Schindler Subject: Dreaded Hinge Crack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh no...I have it. Has anyone performed the repair described on David Sargeant's page? http://www.hplx.net/hardware.hinge.html Right now it is a very fine crack, but I can see that it goes all the way around the right corner. Should I wait until it gets worse? Or should I attempt repair now? I just do not want to cause more harm than good. Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:53:14 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Fluff or Fluffy! (g) Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Nathalie... > my greatest ambition - to help unravel the secrets of the universe - > has been promoted by DASOFT's willingness to help pay my rent Oh, really. AVI, you rascal, you! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:53:23 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fluff: Electrifying stories... Comments: To: Victor Roberts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > how boring why not make your hair stand up on end instead? > > He would if he had any! (gd&r) > > I have lots of hair, but the policy against large attachments > in this list prevents me from sending a picture to prove it. > Can I sue you for Libel, Judge Kaufman? This is (for some of us) America, anybody can sue - the question is can you win? (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:57:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Dreaded Hinge Crack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Right now it is a very fine crack, but I can see that it goes all the way > around the right corner. > > Should I wait until it gets worse? Or should I attempt repair now? I just > do not want to cause more harm than good. IMO, fix it now. If you're the sloppy type, you'll harm it no matter when you decide to do it. I superglued my hinge crack a couple of years ago. It's visible, but hardly hideous (a matter of opinion, a pristine 200LX is probably hideous to many Palm people anyway). The important thing is whether you can work the glue into the crack. I bought some superglue and applied it using a straight pin, working it into the crack (quickly!). Some superglues are on the thick side and you should probably avoid those. If you watch while you're opening and closing the case, the crack usually changes slightly in width over the arc of the swing. At the point where the crack is greatest is where you want to prop the lid and apply the glue. Then use a clean pin to scrap and work the excess a bit, and then prop the lid in a slightly more opened position in order to force the crack closer together. Leave it alone for 24 hours or so and you should be good for a couple of years, or till your latch gives out (that's the rubberband fix). Bet you the Epoc users don't have all this fun! Good luck. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:13:58 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" << > Is this card still available? Cost? Where? I believe that Thaddeus still supplies these cards. >> We do but I believe it is our last batch -- check out www.palmtoppaper.com Hal from Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:18:05 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" << > Note we (and the Trans Digital supplier) just found out that the card will > NOT work with newer 250MB drives! Do you have any ideas why this is the case? >> Here is a note from the manufacturer to one of our customers we worked with: ------- Hi Thomas, It is apparent that there is a problem with new version of 250MB Zip drive running with our PC Card. Original version of Zip drive (100MB) was working OK. It seems that Iomega changed the hardware interface of a 250 Zip and the DOS drivers in such a way that the Trans PC Card does not work with HP200LX. (Can not initialize the drive - message "No drive letter added). I have personally contacted Iomega engineering dept. to find out what can be done to correct the problem. Unfortunately we could not get an answer to address the problem. It is my assumption that Iomega changing the autosensing (PP/SCS ) Interface assumed the timing of faster machines. Possible solution to correct the problem would be to make a software patch for Guest.exe, but Iomega did not agree to provide source code which is required to make possible corrections/modifications. In that situation the users who need access to Zip drive are limited only to 100MB Zip. Unfortunate HP executives decision to kill 200LX (instead of improving it) further created the circumstances where we had to decide to stop further developments related to 200LX. I hope you understand our position. If you have questions please let me know Best Regards, Jerzy Kulesza President &CEO Trans Digital ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:22:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" << > Note we (and the Trans Digital supplier) just found out that the card will > NOT work with newer 250MB drives! Actually they might if you stick with the older version of Guest. I have found this to be true on desktop systems. Using the newest drivers can be a problem.>> If anyone is able to test this, please post results! Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:12:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Small Equation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Here is a small equation I use in my stock trading. My strategy inclides searching for gains on the up movement and the down movement. The gain on up movement is easy to grasp: You buy now, the price goes up, and you sell, the difference is your gain. Going the other way, when the market is going down, I sell some stock, then wait for the market to drop, and buy these shares back. I end up with the same shares, but also some money. Again, a gain. I like to do it with shares I actually have, because I am not interested in leverages and heavy speculation etc. Anyway here is the equation: (if(BuyingNow?=1,1,-1)* (FirstPrice-SecondPrice)*SharesTraded -2*Commission -Fees) =Gain_or_Loss And the lines explained below: 1: (if(BuyingNow?=1,1,-1)* 2: (FirstPrice-SecondPrice)*SharesTraded 3: -2*Commission 4: -Fees) 5: =Gain_or_Loss 1: This indicates if you are buying or selling, merely to give a "direction" to the transaction, and make the sign correct. This is the indicator for the current, second, transaction you are contemplating, not the original transaction. If buying - then indicate by 1. If selling, indicate by 0. 2: Subtracting the prices from each other and multiplying by the number of shares - this gives the absolute difference. 3: Twice the commission is subtracted. This assumes your broker charges a symmetric commission. 4: Other fees subtracted, e.g. SEC fees. 5: There is the gain or loss. In the HP Calculator Application, open Solver then add this equation, give it a name if you want, and press CALC. Moving the cursor up and down you can set the commission for example, then just type the information for the transation. Press the function keys for the proper variable. BTW, the Connectivity Pack application desktop has a calculator and this formula works there nicely too! Enjoy. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:11:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hal, > Here is a note from the manufacturer to one of our customers we worked with: > Hi Thomas, > It is apparent that there is a problem with new version of 250MB Zip drive > running with our PC Card..... Thanks for sharing this. WEB ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:24:59 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: PNR v3.6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> I understand a bug of PNR >> is that it won't allow you to switch to another program when the dialog box >> is up. > >I'm sorry if I didnt make myself clear. In version3.6 of PNR this has been >FIXED. you can now switch from the mail dialog box to the built in applications >by hitting any of the blue keys! David, How about sharing your secret on where you got version 3.6. My copy was just recently downloaded from Super (a few weeks ago) and it says version 3.5. regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:19:22 -0600 Reply-To: palmtop@n-link.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Prob. Looking for an EXP ThinFAX w/ memory In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20010126005919.006ae8e4@mindgate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I think I might want to buy an EXP ThinFAX modem w/ memory (depending on price and specs). Anyone got one collecting dust out there? I want to set my 1MB, unmodified 100LX up to better "hold the fort" while my 200LX goes in for repairs.... Not sure if I'm after the one that seemed to need an external battery pack (for "high speed" 33.whatever access), or if I'm after a 14.4 model. I'd be interested in one w/ the built-in software, but I remember that used to make them REALLY expensive. I wouldn't use it that much; so the software might not be a "dollar added" feature for me. My address book is too large to reside on the memory left on a one-meg unit; so it would have to support using A:\_DAT as its directory. I've got an external modem and a CF card, and *can* go that route, just exploring the possibilities. Anyone make a 20 MB Memory/Modem card for the LX yet? ;-) TIA for any help! --tim ---------------------------------------------------------------- - * Tim Raymond *** Public & Media Relations, Corporate Training * * Killeen, TX *** Cell: 254-289-6346 * * There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. * ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:54:04 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: Systems-Consulting In-Reply-To: <001f01c086ca$0e0b20e0$aac60e18@enfld1.ct.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Thanks for the tip!!! At 1/25/01 -0500, you wrote: >Previous: > > > Note we (and the Trans Digital supplier) just found out that >the card will > > NOT work with newer 250MB drives! > >Actually they might if you stick with the older version of >Guest. I have found this to be true on desktop systems. Using >the newest drivers can be a problem. > > > >Thanks, > >Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting >89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393 >web: http://Systems-Consulting.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:51:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Long Phone Numbers Comments: To: "Folts, Doug" In-Reply-To: <3A6F0372F39ED411A65700A0C9E1FABC070D39@mad_io> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I recalled more: I think it was a topic here several months ago, and someone actually said that all modems have that limitation, that it was not an EXP-unique issue. You may want to browse around the archives... As to the 56K modem from Thaddeus: While I tested it and use it and LIKE it, I have not tested the calling card issue. Avi At 1/25/01 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks for the insight of 32 digit limitation. >Does the 56k Modem Thaddeus sells have this limitation? > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >I'm using a ThinFax modem. It says "Modem reported command error" when I > >set up a phone number as 1800123456,,12345678901,,1234567890 > >If I remember right, EXP cards could not handle more than 32 digits and >characters in the dialling sequence. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 01:36:40 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Note we (and the Trans Digital supplier) just found out that the card will > NOT work with newer 250MB drives! Hal, just to clarify your statement or the way it comes across. "with newer 250MB drives!" Does that mean there are "newer" and OLDER 250meg drives or are 250meg drives unworkable? Sorry, but I may have just read an ambiguity into it as I don't know if Iomega has had a number of 250meg models. Best, Fred ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:57:09 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Floppy drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all; Does anyone know if there's a PCMCIA floppy diskette drive that will work with the 200LX? Thanks. Regards, Richard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:08:34 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Mittell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Mittell Subject: Fluff Re: Small Equation Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET In-Reply-To: <200101252112.QAA18767@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Doing any good in the market right now? Not too many of us are. Puts me in mind of the time I was on an LA-to-St. Louis flight with one of the brightest engineers I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. Deep into conversation with him, I discovered that he'd bought a *huge* (in physical terms) analog computer owned by a ex-employer we had in common, when that employer went digital. He had managed to shoehorn this monster into his basement. I asked him what on earth he did with the thing. It turns out he was doing an analog simulation of the stock market. He told me proudly, "I think I'm onto something. It seems to be correct 50% of the time." I had to bite my tongue to stop myself from pointing out that a tossed coin works just about as well! LOL! Sorry Avi, no reflection on what you're doing (I hope). Larry P.S.-- Anyone here know what an analog computer is? Slide rules? Rotary calculators? Brontosauri? At 01:12 PM 1/25/01, you wrote: >Here is a small equation I use in my stock trading. My >strategy inclides searching for gains on the up movement and >the down movement. The gain on up movement is easy to grasp: >You buy now, the price goes up, and you sell, the difference >is your gain. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:27:52 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Small Equation In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010125182820.02f57980@pop1.attglobal.net> from "Larry Mittell" at Jan 25, 2001 07:08:34 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > P.S.-- Anyone here know what an analog computer is? Slide rules? Rotary > calculators? Brontosauri? Indeed. I have a fairly extensive collection of slide rules, plus an old pocket "computer", the CURTA Type II rotary calculator. Besides my HP200LX, I also carry around with me a pocket circular slide rule with an integral cheat-sheet for electronics engineers. When in college, I worked for a professor on a 1930's Westinghouse "Network Analyzer", which was a huge analog computer (took up a large room in dozens of tall racks). I would amusse myself by checking my EE homework problems in the analog computer... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 21:38:46 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: "Market for handheld computers" story Comments: To: Scott Schindler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The major problem with many users today, no modern graphical user interface. I would rather use DOS when I can. Likewise, all four of my vehicles are stick shift. Scott Schindler wrote: > > Just goes to show "what could have been" had HP actually marketed the 200LX. > Bob -- R.K. Meyer K7PPC Elk Mountain Wyoming http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone which... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 22:42:30 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Small Equation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Anyone here know what an analog computer is? Slide rules? Rotary calculators? Brontosauri?<< I used analog computers, in physics, back in the late '50's. I think they were Heathkit machines. Great for seeing the analogies between mechanical and electrical systems. Slide rules were more for the engineering crowd. I still have a couple of slip sticks -- maybe even a couple of circular slide rules. How about a tubular slide rule? Don't know about Brontosauri, but never met a Thesaurus I didn't like. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:47:31 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: PCMCIA mp3 Player MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, After benifiting from this list for about a year, I finally have something to contribute. I have successfully completed designing and creating a = PCMCIA mp3 player for the LX, and have posted pictures on my homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~lonac/mp3_PCMCIA_Player/ I plan to devote a section to instructions on how to build this device in = the following weeks (with better pictures), but please note that it will = require considerable soldering skills. Hope this is of interest to someone.. David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 05:17:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Floppy drive Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hello all; > > Does anyone know if there's a PCMCIA floppy diskette drive that > will work with the 200LX? Thanks. There was at one time but I don't recall the details. I believe it plugged into the pcmcia port (serial port?). Was slow but worked. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:03:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: PE on Omnibook 530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > If anyone is running PE on an HP Omnibook 530 notebook I would > greatly appreciate knowing your configuration: which version > of PE, which version of PALRUN, INT5F or CGAGRAPH and your > PE.CFG file if possible? When I run PE on my OB 530 with either > PALRUN, INT5F OR CGAGRAPH, it locks up at the PE starting > screen. > > Others have mentioned that PE & PALRUN work just fine on their > desktops or perhaps other notebooks. I have confirmed that PE > runs under PALRUN without problems in a DOS box on my Win95 > desktop. What I would appreciate is some information on how it > can be configured to run on an OB 530. I'm running PE on a Compaq Aero in a DOS box under WinNT. I started out with palrun but have switched to Palmpc to emulate the palmtop screen. I never had problems with PE. You might check if ALL your path statements in the PE.CFG are correct, if the TEMP directory exists as it should ... HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:39:35 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: PCMCIA mp3 Player MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, yes , YES -----Original Message----- From: David Ýmailto:lonac@EARTHLINK.NET¨ Sent: 26 January 2001 05:48 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: PCMCIA mp3 Player Hello everyone, After benifiting from this list for about a year, I finally have something to contribute. I have successfully completed designing and creating a PCMCIA mp3 player for the LX, and have posted pictures on my homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~lonac/mp3_PCMCIA_Player/ Hope this is of interest to someone.. David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 00:38:33 -0800 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: USER 1 Subject: sound cards Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > > << > > Yes, we have about 4000 used 1.5 meg rechargeable SRAM cards. Don't even > > know if they are still any good. > > I have been testing out some of these cards and they seem to be fine. The > battery is supposedly rechargeable and charges when the card is in the palmtop. > All of the cards I have tested (6) still had their original data on arrival, > so the batteries hold a charge fairly well. > >> > > I see the dilemma. > > On one hand, SRAM cards (even with modest capacity) still get a decent price > (ebay, cnet), tho I'm not sure who uses them ... so 4000 would be a significant > asset to Thaddeus. Normal 1-2mb SRAM seem to sell for between $50-$100. > > OTOH, since the card batteries are rechargeable (good) but in a non-removeable > case (bad) and since rechargeables have a limited number of charges (very bad), > and these having been used for 5 years (more bad), they're essentially a > disposable item, which reduces the value. > > The question for any purchaser is not how well it holds its charge now, but how > well it holds the charge (and your data) tomorrow. > > Maybe Thaddeus should just keep them and use them to distribute software to > palmtop customers? > > - Longden > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Loo: this is off the subject of SRAN CARDS, BUT HOW CAN YOU RUN SOUND FILES ON THE 200LX? I downloaded some sound files from SUPER BUT CAN'T GET TO WORK WHEN I open my appt book, where do you put the sound files so it can play when you open your appt book? It plays at the c: prompt OK. DO I have to convert the files? if so how? I know the 200lx uses the ext of SND. ANY INFO WILL HELP THANK YOU--------Bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 04:17:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefano Greselin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefano Greselin Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? Comments: To: Jon Barrett MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My Win2K simply doesn't see the card. Haven't tried with other PCMCIA cards. I've been looking for TFFS drivers with no result; does anybody know where to get it from? (also, what does 'linear flash card' mean? ciao Stefano -----Original Message----- From: Jon Barrett Ýmailto:jonzann@ALTAVISTA.NET¨ Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:46 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:53:21 -0800 > From: Longden Loo > Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? > > > I usually perform 200LX data backup using HP Transfile software. > > More frequently, I do backup on my HP Flashdisk (10MB; P/N: F1013A). > > I now have a Notebook pc (with Windows 2000) and I tried to read the HP > > Flashdisk thru the PCMCIA slot, with no success (I was able to read my > > flashdisk > > with my old HP Omnibook instead). > > Any suggestion? > > I haven't used W2K myself, but I'm not aware that there were any special > issues with recognizing old flash cards. You'd think that W2K came with > all the generic drivers necessary to handle most memory cards. > > What msgs do you get when you put the card in the slot? And have you tried > other types of CF/PCMCIA cards in the slot? > > - Longden ATA flash cards from my 200 LX work fine under W2K and Whistler. I don't remember the specs for the F1013A - is it by any chance a linear flash card? If so, that may be your problem. TFFS drivers aren't part of the Win32 app distributions so you'd need to find them elsewhere. Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 05:51:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: PE on Omnibook 530 Comments: To: HP Staber MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where can I get PalmPC? Mike... HP Staber wrote: > > > > If anyone is running PE on an HP Omnibook 530 notebook I would > > greatly appreciate knowing your configuration: which version > > of PE, which version of PALRUN, INT5F or CGAGRAPH and your > > PE.CFG file if possible? When I run PE on my OB 530 with either > > PALRUN, INT5F OR CGAGRAPH, it locks up at the PE starting > > screen. > > > > Others have mentioned that PE & PALRUN work just fine on their > > desktops or perhaps other notebooks. I have confirmed that PE > > runs under PALRUN without problems in a DOS box on my Win95 > > desktop. What I would appreciate is some information on how it > > can be configured to run on an OB 530. > > I'm running PE on a Compaq Aero in a DOS box under WinNT. I started out > with palrun but have switched to Palmpc to emulate the palmtop screen. > I never had problems with PE. > > You might check if ALL your path statements in the PE.CFG are correct, > if the TEMP directory exists as it should ... > > HP Staber/Salzburg > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 12:23:02 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: Re: Floppy drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> Does anyone know if there's a PCMCIA floppy diskette drive that >> will work with the 200LX? Thanks. >There was at one time but I don't recall the details. I believe it plugged into the pcmcia port (serial port?). Was slow but worked. It was called DRIVE 95 and was a problem because it drew more power than the charger of its battery could deliver, consuming the battery in about one hour after which it was dead and had to be charged again. Regards Winfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:37:16 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: WTB inexpensive low power pcmcia modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I seemed to have missed every modem offered on the list recently. Does anyone have one laying around I can buy, or should I hit Ebay? Thanks Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:28:06 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: WTB inexpensive low power pcmcia modem Comments: To: "Class3Dep@AOL.COM" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Dennis, what is 'inexpensive'? I ask $100 ( a lot maybe) , but can consider lower offers on the Thinfax 4MB 1414LXM, it IS laying around.. How much would you be willing to spend... 14K modem + 4 MB flash included, complete with cable and book. Michel -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Vest Ýmailto:Class3Dep@AOL.COM¨ Sent: 26 January 2001 13:37 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: WTB inexpensive low power pcmcia modem I seemed to have missed every modem offered on the list recently. Does anyone have one laying around I can buy, or should I hit Ebay? Thanks Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:39:35 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Fluff: Sorry for below message... Should have been private to Den nis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:01:00 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? Comments: To: Stefano Greselin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What is a linear flashcard? Simply said: ATA flashcard - is addressed as a hard disk, with hard disk sector read/write commands etc. Linear flashcard - just a long list of memory addresses: put an address on the card, directly read out the contents, just as ordinary memory. Hence you can map it as normal memory, and for example directly run programs from it ( XIP = eXecute In Place). Can't directly function as a flash disk, and hence requires a FTL - Flash Translation Layer, for example TFFS, or Microsofts Flash drivers. ( You might say that an ATA card has the FTL built in). Your HP disk is a ATA flashcard, and should be readable normally - your PC should start beeping and showing a panel the moment you insert it. However, it also requires 12V, and my not be supplied by your notebook. Although, this might be only required for writing. You should certainly NOT need Tffs, this is only used for Sram or Linear Flash. If you insist, I can send TFFS drivers just to be sure. ( up to TFFS 95, no 2000 that is) a) Have you tried booting a diskette with DOS plus the standard PC Card services - that might just work. b) Are you sure Windows ME card services are installed by default on the laptop? Check the control panel to make sure. Michel -----Original Message----- From: Stefano Greselin Ýmailto:Stefano_Greselin@JABIL.COM¨ Sent: 26 January 2001 10:18 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? My Win2K simply doesn't see the card. Haven't tried with other PCMCIA cards. I've been looking for TFFS drivers with no result; does anybody know where to get it from? (also, what does 'linear flash card' mean? ciao Stefano ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:28:03 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Post/LX data sharing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I would like to share an idea with you: Recently I bought an HP Omnibook 430 as a big brother for my 200LX, mainly for LaTeX and MS Office work. Now I thought it would be a good idea to also do all my email on the Omnibook if I have it with me rather than using both HPs, one for my work and one for my email... I did the following: 1. I moved all my POST/LX mailbox and folder files on my flash card and reconfigured Post/LX to use these files instead of these on C: (WWW/POST/LX remains on C: in case I have to use a PCMCIA modem some time while not at home) 2. I added for every Post/LX mailbox a duplicate on C: (for the case the A: card isn't present, i.e. when using a PCMCIA modem) 3. I set up two "sets": a (containint all mailmoxes on A: and all folders) and c (containing all mailboxes on C:). 4. Copied the whole WWW/LX program directory to the Omnibook (same directory name). Now I can simply put the flash card into the machine I want to do my email with and start Post/LX (on the Omnbook with Palrun or palmpc). And when I have to use a PCMCIA modem, I can put all my outgoing mail into the C: mailboxes, switch to set c and work there. Then I can move all the ingoing mail back to the A: mailboxes and work on.... No matter what machine I'm using! Currently I'm working to get the IrDA feature of WWW/LX working on the Omnibook so that I can use also the Omnibook with my mobile phone - I'm curious if there's also the well-known EMI problem! Avi, maybe you'll want to add this to your WWW/LX Tips and Tricks page? GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:28:21 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: PCMCIA mp3 Player Comments: To: David MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi David, On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 20:47:31 -0800, David wrote: > After benifiting from this list for about a year, I finally have something > to contribute. I have successfully completed designing and creating a PCMCIA > mp3 player for the LX, and have posted pictures on my homepage: > http://home.earthlink.net/~lonac/mp3_PCMCIA_Player/ > > I plan to devote a section to instructions on how to build this device in the > following weeks (with better pictures), but please note that it will require > considerable soldering skills. WOW, cool!! It's amazing that you fitted a whole MP3 player into the housing of a PCMCIA card, even with a MMC card! Does the player look like a flash card to the LX so that you can simply copy MP3 files on it and then the player itselc takes over control with the buttons? Or can the player also be software-controlled? How about the sound? Is it as good as other MP3 players? Power consumption acceptable? Could the player even be used as a stand-alone device if you attach a power source to the correct pins of the PCMCIA port? What happens if the MMC card slips out a little bit while the player is inserted into the LX? Isn't there the danger that it isn't removable anymore when the MMC card comes out a few millimeters? Yes, please publish the instructions!! What do the parts cost for such a player (without the MMC card)? Do you have to make a circuit board yourself? GTX and many thanks!! daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:42:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Small Equation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > From: A Meshar Ýmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨ > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 4:13 PM >... > (if(BuyingNow?=1,1,-1)* > (FirstPrice-SecondPrice)*SharesTraded > -2*Commission > -Fees) > =Gain_or_Loss While this equation works fine in my 200LX's HPcalc application as well as the Connectivity Pack's, it fails in the Omnibook's Windows version 'HP Financial Calculator'. The error it gives is 'Parse error at 21', indicating the close-parenthesis after the '-1'. Does anyone else use the Windows app? The help file offers no advice on interpreting the error. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:45:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: PCMCIA mp3 Player Hey, Hal, this looks like potential Thaddeus product. It could be further developed to be more than just an MP3 player. Perhaps a Voice recorder/sound system for the LX? Backlighting and voice notes were the big things that Windows CE devices offer that the LX can't touch yet. BTW: I hope this is not a hoax.... that would cruel. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" To: Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:47 PM Subject: PCMCIA mp3 Player Hello everyone, After benifiting from this list for about a year, I finally have something to contribute. I have successfully completed designing and creating a PCMCIA mp3 player for the LX, and have posted pictures on my homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~lonac/mp3_PCMCIA_Player/ I plan to devote a section to instructions on how to build this device in the following weeks (with better pictures), but please note that it will require considerable soldering skills. Hope this is of interest to someone.. David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:52:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: WTB inexpensive low power pcmcia modem Comments: To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Go to ebay. I know that this one works 'cause I have it. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1210102875 There are dozens for sale on ebay. There are other modems that are better in the power dept but the MHZ modem will work for at leastan hour on fully charged 1200MA NiMHS. BTW: If you have a stock 2MB or 4MB LX you may want to consider a flash-ram modem made specifically for the LX. There are probably a few list members that would sell you one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Vest" To: Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 7:37 AM Subject: WTB inexpensive low power pcmcia modem > I seemed to have missed every modem offered on the list recently. Does anyone > have one laying around I can buy, or should I hit Ebay? > > Thanks > Dennis > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:07:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: PCMCIA mp3 Player Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > After benifiting from this list for about a year, I finally have something > to contribute. I have successfully completed designing and creating a PCMCIA > mp3 player for the LX, Does the sound on the 200lx make it worthwhile? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:46:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Solinas, David M." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Solinas, David M." Subject: Want 200LX From Ebay -- Who's Prolink1? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi. I'm looking to pick up a backup HP200LX on Ebay, and on almost every one, I see prolink1@gate.net as the high bidder. A bidder search shows that he's bidding on *16* HP200LX's currently. Anybody know why he's buying so many? I looked for a backup unit a year ago, and IIRC, he was bidding up the prices back then, too. I wish he'd just go and buy a thousand from Thaddeus and be done with it. Dave ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:23:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Schindler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Schindler Subject: Re: Want 200LX From Ebay -- Who's Prolink1? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > on almost every one, I see prolink1@gate.net as the high > bidder. I noticed the same thing. He/She seems to be cornering the market on LX's. I was going to bid on Tom's LX until I saw that prolink1 was at it again. Maybe Tom can enlighten us as to who it is after his LX sells.:) Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:26:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Fluff: Darwin Award Nominee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uh, Jeff, be sure you practice safe LX . . . http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/12834.html Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:30:09 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Want 200LX From Ebay -- Who's Prolink1? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Hi. I'm looking to pick up a backup HP200LX on Ebay, and > on almost every one, I see prolink1@gate.net as the high > bidder. A bidder search shows that he's bidding on *16* > HP200LX's currently. Anybody know why he's buying so many? Speculation was that he's buying up spare units for a South American company where the 200LX is apparently a workhorse, and there's understandable panic at the discontinuation of the 200LX's availability from HP. As an example, Coca Cola in Brazil equips their sales force with 200LX's to allow them to be more mobile over a broad territory (and please, let's not get into that one again!). Prolink works out of Miami (he posted his number once), so that may support the theory. > I wish he'd just > go and buy a thousand from Thaddeus and be done with it That would make Hal's day indeed . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:44:07 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: PE on Omnibook 530 Comments: To: HP Staber MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I'm running PE on a Compaq Aero in a DOS box under WinNT. I started out > with palrun but have switched to Palmpc to emulate the palmtop screen. > I never had problems with PE. I just gave POST a quick load under Palmpc. I usually use Palrun. With Palrun I can run Post in small dos window, that is LESS than a full screen DOS window. I found that using Palmpc, I cannot switch to a smaller dos window but am stuck at full screen. Is there a way to reduce the "dos box" to less than Full-Screen-Mode using Palmpc? I prefer the smaller window, that way I can see other info in other windows if I need to reference other info. If Palmpc will not even allow one to switch away from full screen at all, then I would not be able to do any reference. I will note, that some of the hp graphic emulators will allow you to switch to a smaller window but then the application will not run (you get a windows' message saying this graphic app will only run in full screen mode). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:44:11 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: PCMCIA mp3 Player MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > mp3 player for the LX, and have posted pictures on my homepage: > http://home.earthlink.net/~lonac/mp3_PCMCIA_Player/ Congratulations - there are some very talented folks in this group. How much power does it use has to be one of the first questions. And it appears that you store the mp3's on that compact flash card which fits in the adapter??? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 11:18:46 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Comparing 200LX TO PALM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > to either learn Graffiti or > use the onscreen keyboard. > Once you get used to using an > onscreen keyboard, the other details Learn Graffiti. It takes 20 minutes to learn the basics and it's much easier and faster than the onscreen keyboard. As you use it you learn the rest of it and get even faster. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 12:24:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Small Equation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > From: A Meshar Ýmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨ > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 4:13 PM > ... > Going the other way, when the market is going down, I sell > some stock, then wait for the market to drop, and buy these > shares back. I end up with the same shares, but also some > money. Again, a gain. Please note that, at least here in the U.S., using this approach can produce more complicated results on your tax calculations - particularly if you re-purchase the same stock within 30 days of a sale. It's known as a 'wash sale' and if you thought you could claim a loss on the sale, you jeopardize that when you buy it back too soon. For details, see the IRS publication 550, 'Investment Income and Expenses' at http://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p550.pdf. It's in Chapter 4, on page 52. Also see http://invest-faq.com/articles/tax-wash-sale.html for a short take on this subject. (BTW, I see this Investment FAQ is maintained by a Christopher Lott. Any relation to the Chris Lott on this list?) Disclaimer: I am not an investment professional, nor even a very sophisticated investor, but I am very much aware of income tax calculations - especially at this time of year. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:15:51 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Psion Revo (Was Group project) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Barry wrote (>): > I don't know about your encyclopaedia but most > are very heavily indexed.=20 > It's likely that the search found the word after > 3 or 4 looks at the index if it's using a binary tree. > A binary search would be slower but still very fast. Hmmm. I tried putting the cursor at the biginning of W and the search now = took 2 seconds... Well, so I accept it may not make any big difference = where in the file I am when I start the search, but since we were comparing = the speed of the HPLX with EPOC, my question stands. Is there any software = for the HPLX which can search a 65Mb database in three seconds flat? Just for the record: Since the subject mentions the Revo. While TomeRaider = will happily run on the Psion Revo, that particular encyclopaedia won't, = quite simply because the file won't fit on the machine and there is no slot = for extra disks on the Revo. I'm using the encyclopaedia on an Ericsson = MC218 which has the same OS and processor speed as the Revo. There are lots = of other files available in TomeRaider format that may be useful on a Revo = though. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:16:03 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Long sigs. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. I'm sad to see that long sigs have upset some people on this list, so I = will refrain from them in future. However, to put the record straight, my = sig was eight lines, not nine, and two of those lines were empty, = containing only carriage returns, so it was really only six. My justification for the sig is that I personally really like to see who = and where people are, and I have gained many good friends around the world = when people on mailing lists have spotted this in my sig or visited my = website and written to me in private. In fact, I've met a couple of my = closest friends this way. Another point is that by saying who and where I am, I hopefully avoid some = replies from people who assume I live in a major city in the USA and can = just walk into the nearest "Radio Shack" or whatever when i need something. = It's not enough to just post the sig every 10 or 20 messages, as people = don't get interested in who you are before you write something that is = interesting to them. Those of you who have been around a while will have spotted the note at the = bottom of e-mails sent from Mac computers along the lines of: "This e-mail = was accelerated for Power Machintosh" or whatever. If you know anything at = all about the internet, you will know that it is impossibly to accellerate = a normal e-mail whatever hardware or software you use, so I thought my = comment was funny and worth the two lines. Apart from this, my sig was = really only who and where I am and my web site URL. I honestly don't think it's justified to put my wastage of bandwidth with a = 217 byte sig on a par with sending HTML attachments that make the message = well over twice the original size with NO added information. I also think = it is far more wasteful when people include several levels of previously = quoted messages in their replies. This is not only bloody lazy and very = wasteful of bandwidth, but makes the digest difficult to read. As previously mentioned, my only way of connecting to the internet is via = cell-phone. It may be said that this is my choice, but in my case, it would = be either that or not having access to the Internet at all. I'd personally = be happy for everyone to have 10, 11 or 12 line sigs if nobody posted HTML = or quoted without pruning. Why are people STILL quoting the entire message = they reply to after several days of this discussion? Don't they give a = shit? Richard wrote (>): > I suggest that in addition to avoiding HTML-mail, > vCards, etc. we also limit signatures to no more > that 3 lines. I don't really see sigs as that much of a problem as long as they are = within reason, but appreciate that other people do, and have mended my = ways. > And, as I've said before, a bit of patience in the > list would be beneficial as well. If I had not been a digest receiver, I would have seen the other comments = to your vcard before I sent mine, and would probably not have commented at = all. I'm sorry my comment caused so much aggro. PS. Apologies for any ongoing discussions from which I've been absent the = last couple of days. The ISP have been messing things about, and I could = not connect to the POP3 server before today. I was able to re-route my = iname.com address to another server so I could receive new e-mails, but = could not collect those messages that had already been sent to me. All I really want from the Internet is one single TOTALLY RELIABLE pop3 = server to collect my e-mail on! Is this too much to ask? :o( Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:20:14 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: "Market for handheld computers" story Comments: To: ohdamnthathurts@yahoo.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Ed Padin wrote on 1/25/01 6:04 am: .............................................................. Hopefully, this demand can carry over to the 'refurbished' 200lx market. ............................................................. And what demand are you speaking of exactly, here? Do you mean that = this might cause HP to rethink their plans for the 200LX? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:32:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Hocking Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Hocking Subject: Re: Floppy drive Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith Yes, manufactured by Accurite Technologies (510-668-4900, don't recall their web site, maybe try www.accurite.com), called Travel Floppy. They also have a DoubleSlot that makes the single slot into a doubleslot, so that you can run two type II cards at once. I have both of these, and if your interested, might sell them. You could go to their web site, or call them, and see what they sell for, and make me an offer. They both work great, but I now spend more time on my laptop, then I do my palmtop. Also are you on lists on the STJOHN's server, like the lowcarb or diabetes lists? I thought I recognized your name. Let me know if interested. Best Regards, Robert Hocking ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:31:10 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <> Didn't mean OLDER and NEWER distinction. Doesn't work with 250MG drives. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:47:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Long sigs. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:20:49 -0500 (EST) 01h04m46s ago ... On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Owen H. Morgan wrote: > > I'm sad to see that long sigs have upset some people on this list, so > I will refrain from them in future... > > Richard wrote (>): > > > I suggest that in addition to avoiding HTML-mail, > > vCards, etc. we also limit signatures to no more > > that 3 lines. > -- > On a sailboat. In Norway > http://pagina.de/naomi.j Hi Owen, Richard & All: To set the record straight, I suggested the 3 line signature, not Richard. Also, I encourage people to add contact info, just be size & space efficient about it...you can fit alot in three lines. Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:58:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: "Market for handheld computers" story Comments: To: David Ball HP, or anybody else. If there's money to be made then there's money to be made. Demand=opportunity ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ball" To: Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:20 PM Subject: Re: "Market for handheld computers" story Ed Padin wrote on 1/25/01 6:04 am: .............................................................. Hopefully, this demand can carry over to the 'refurbished' 200lx market. ............................................................. And what demand are you speaking of exactly, here? Do you mean that this might cause HP to rethink their plans for the 200LX? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:08:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Floppy drive Comments: To: Robert Hocking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I am interested, but I'll have to see about the price. How old are the items you have? BTW: Thanks for your response. As far as I know, I am not on the lowcarb or diabetes list, but my wife may be, since she works with diabetics and we share the same e-mail address here. Robert Hocking wrote: > Yes, manufactured by Accurite Technologies (510-668-4900, don't recall their > web site, maybe try www.accurite.com), called Travel Floppy. They also have > a DoubleSlot that makes the single slot into a doubleslot, so that you can > run two type II cards at once. I have both of these, and if your > interested, might sell them. You could go to their web site, or call them, > and see what they sell for, and make me an offer. They both work great, but > I now spend more time on my laptop, then I do my palmtop. Also are you on > lists on the STJOHN's server, like the lowcarb or diabetes lists? I thought > I recognized your name. Let me know if interested. > > Best Regards, > > Robert Hocking ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 21:52:13 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: PCMCIA mp3 Player Comments: To: David MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David wrote: > After benifiting from this list for about a year, I finally have something > to contribute. I have successfully completed designing and creating a PCMCIA > mp3 player for the LX, and have posted pictures on my homepage: > http://home.earthlink.net/~lonac/mp3_PCMCIA_Player/ Very interesting. I'm glad to see this level of hacking is continuing to be done on the LX. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:01:09 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Small Equation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Striegel, Alan asked WRT the Windows version of HP Calc >>Does anyone else use the Windows app? The help file offers no advice on interpreting the error.<< I no longer use this HP Calc emulator. Long ago I discovered that it had too many bugs in the Solver function. Half or more of the equations in my collection would generate errors. I stayed with the ConnPack rendition of HP Solve. That was closer to the LX version (lacks the 1-2-3 linking code but that was OK by me.) .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 00:12:54 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: PNR v3.6 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20010126005919.006ae8e4@mindgate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Fri, 26 Jan 2001 07:24:59 +0800 Oliver Chua a =E9crit: > How about sharing your secret on where you got version 3.6. My copy was > just recently downloaded from Super (a few weeks ago) and it says version= 3.5. Well, if you look at the headers of his message, you will be more interested : User-Agent: PNR/3.7b1 (Palmtop News Reader) Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:34:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Floppy drive Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20010126051743.LWVT2072.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Does anyone know if there's a PCMCIA floppy diskette drive that >> will work with the 200LX? Thanks. > >There was at one time but I don't recall the details. I believe it >plugged into the pcmcia port (serial port?). Was slow but worked. Accurite travel floppy -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:40:33 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: WTB inexpensive low power pcmcia modem Comments: To: Michel.Bel@nl.origin-it.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michel, I was actually looking for a modem only and less than $25 was what I was hoping to spend. Thanks very much, however. Dennis > ask $100 ( a lot maybe) , but can consider lower offers on the Thinfax 4MB > 1414LXM, it IS laying around.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 20:40:35 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: WTB inexpensive low power pcmcia modem Comments: To: ohdamnthathurts@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed, Thanks for the heads up. I will go there. Dennis > Go to ebay. I know that this one works 'cause I have it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:49:58 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Serial port current draw vs. Batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've acquired a used Megahertz 14.4 Pocket Data/Fax Modem to suplement my pcmcia modem. An advantage (to me) is the new modem is external and runs on its own 9VDC battery which means the 200LX batteries only need power the LX's serial port when I'm running WWW/LX. So... How big a hit is the serial port when running on batteries? I'm pretty sure the serial power is only on when WWW/LX is online. I use disposable alkalines mostly. I suppose I could run it until my LX crashed but I'd like to avoid needing my backup. :-) Also I didn't get any doc with the modem. None is needed to use the modem but I'd still be interested to see it. Anyone have an extra or care let me borrow yours for a couple weeks? Comments? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 18:34:04 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: Re: PCMCIA mp3 Player MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello again, > to contribute. I have successfully completed designing and creating a = PCMCIA > mp3 player for the LX, and have posted pictures on my homepage: > http://home.earthlink.net/~lonac/mp3_PCMCIA_Player/ Wow, I didn't anticipate such a huge response! I apologize for the stir = I've caused on the list, but I'm afraid many of you will be disappointed with = the details of this mp3 player.. I am by no means a computer or electronics = guru - more of a hobbyist that got a little too enthusiastic when a friend = challenged me to prove my LX was just as functional as his Jornada (which was = capable of playing mp3's) Because of legal issues, I will not be able to post instructions on my homepage as I had hoped. But I believe I can give a simple overview of = what I did as long as I don't reveal the manufacturer. All I did was make a few modifications to an existing mp3 player, and used the PCMCIA port as a = power source. But before everyone starts hitting F3 to tell me what they think = of me now :), let me list some of the advantages this setup has to offer: First of all, by having a separate cpu decompress mp3's, I can do other = things on the LX while listening to music. I balance my checkbook, read books, = read & write e-mail (this one included), and a dozen other tasks without having = to reach for my CD player or radio. (Beat that Jornada!) The same is true = about disk space. By having a separate storage medium, I don't have to sacrifice= precious disk space from my LX. And of course the advantages of having external play/rewind/forward buttons are obvious. And the best feature? = MP3 Alarm! In fact I've muted the alarm beep in the appointment book, and = wake up every morning to my favorite mp3's! On to the disadvantages: power consumption. I get about six hours on my rechargables; with constant usage of the PCMCIA mp3 player, I get about = three. There are a few others, but avoidable if you choose a different mp3 = player. (No random play on mine, etc) I'm sure some of you are thinking that you might as well carry around a separate mp3 player (except for the mp3 alarm function) - after all, why = sacrifice your only PC Card slot? I don't have a good answer for this except for = the convenience of being able to carry around my LX, and having everything I = need. I use the serial port and my cell phone for the internet, so I rarely = take out the mp3 player at all. And it's great being able to take just one = thing to listen to while roller blading, and stopping anywhere I want to write = e-mails while I rest.. I have actually been using this for the past five months now. I didn't = post this before because quite frankly, I didn't think people would be interest= ed. But seeing how many of you seem genuinely intrigued by the idea, I'd be = happy to share the details of making this off-list. Just e-mail me at the same = address. Sorry for wasting bandwidth with the long response. David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 00:18:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: PCMCIA mp3 Player Comments: To: David MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David wrote: > > Wow, I didn't anticipate such a huge response! I apologize for the stir I've How naive! > did as long as I don't reveal the manufacturer. All I did was make a few > modifications to an existing mp3 player, and used the PCMCIA port as a power Man did not get to moon on the first Vanguard space shot, but it was a success story. You are the first in an LX MP3 device. Power first, next controls from the LX -- TSR perhaps for volume, play sequence, etc. Keep up the good work. Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 23:56:43 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Pictures of 200LX in fixed use MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have connected my 200LX to a GPS and a radio for navigation and wireless communication (non cell connection.) You are invided to view these pictures: http://www.geocities.com/alfred1520/myaprs/myaprs.htm Alfred Lee ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:37:35 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: Floppy drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Richard, Yes, Accurite has a PCMCIA Floppy disk drive. I have an extra one at the moment. Also works with the Omnibooks 300, 425, 430, 530, etc. =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:14:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Neill Currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neill Currie Subject: Re: PCMCIA mp3 player MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << I balance my checkbook, read books, = read & write e-mail (this one included), and a dozen other tasks without having = to reach for my CD player or radio. (Beat that Jornada!) >> Actually, this can be done with a stock Jornada 548.................Neill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:33:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Berling Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Berling Subject: carry case MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Scott I've had a "Pouch" case since Nov, 2000. It's very sturdy and snug. It = has a loop to attach to your belt. You can remove the case from your belt= w/o removing your belt because the loop is formed by a latch similar to = that found on a bicycle helmet. The top of the case is a flap which holds= shut with velcro. Before the pouch, I used Palmtree's leather case which had a steel clip= and a zipper top. It was elegant but the clip would tear through the lea= ther after about 18 mos. I should say that my cases get alot of wear and tear because I'm always= wearing the 200lx- often in harsh weather conditions. = "The Pouch" Tuscon, AZ. 1-800-727-6824. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 10:03:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! Comments: To: m_berrier@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Are you sure it can run with a CGA screen? Some DOS programs required an EGA or VGA screen. Vic Roberts On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:10:45 +0100, Michael Berrier wrote: > > even with 512k I'm unable to get the program run, any ideas further?? > Thanks for help > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of > Michael Berrier > Sent: Sonntag, Januar 07, 2001 12.18 Uhr > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! > > I found a promising project management program from Parcell Softarwe, Geneva > IL, USA. After installing on the LX I was not able to get it running. The > system shows " not enough memory " > > The doc file says as requirements : 512k, hard disc and DOS 3.3 > > What am I doing wrong ? Does anyone from the list have any experience with > the software easy project 4.0 itself ? or is it basic problem with the LX > I'm faced with. Any help is appreciated , I will report to the list about my > experiences with ep 4.0 The result under DOS (notebook) are very promising. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:37:59 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Floppy drive Comments: To: b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Newins wrote: > Yes, Accurite has a PCMCIA Floppy disk drive. I have an > extra one at the moment. Also works with the Omnibooks 300, > 425, 430, 530, etc. =Bob= What does it take to get it to work on the Omnibooks? I need a floppy drive for my Omnibook. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:07:10 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Subject: HP200LX PCMCIA Disks and Processors are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition. (5) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available. One (1) $30.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Two (2) $55.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have (3) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Payment Terms: I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you can send payment to my address at: Scott Moore 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street Beaverton, Or 97006 Notes: I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let you know that your disks are on the way. I always send out disks and other products the very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday. I package all my disks and products in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery. All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to test a customer's new prototype product at work. If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you. If you want Insurance on your package it is .85 to 2.00. If you do not buy insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal errors. Orders outside the USA may be more. No Foreign Checks please! The response over the last few months has been just great! and the people I have worked with have been just awesome. Thanks alot! Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:55:36 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > My Win2K simply doesn't see the card. > Haven't tried with other PCMCIA cards. > I've been looking for TFFS drivers with no > result; does anybody know where to get it > from? > (also, what does 'linear flash card' mean? Linear flash cards need a driver. They don't present themselves as ATA cards. But I've never heard of HP shipping anything but Sandisk ATA cards. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:00:24 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > My Win2K simply doesn't see the card. > Haven't tried with other PCMCIA cards. Have you checked your setup to make sure the PCMCIA port is enabled? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:18:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: HP Flashdisk works with IBM thinkpad 560X MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My thinkpad 560X (WIn98Lite) recocnises my HP 10 meg flash card (F1013A) without any prompting. It reports it as "Sandisk ATA Flashdisk" I also think the thinkpad will communicate with the palmtop using SIR but I haven't checked it out yet. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:53:34 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM Comments: To: barry@fbtc.net MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Barry wrote on 1/26/01 9:22 am: Learn Graffiti. It takes 20 minutes to learn the basics and it's much = easier and faster than the onscreenkeyboard. As you use it you learn = the rest of it and get even faster. ////////////////////// I'm trying. I find the punctation rather hard, so I find myself using = the keyboard quite often for certain letters. So far,I find it a = struggle to learn.. Other features about the Palm are more attractive, however. It's form = factor is ezcellent. The backlight works wonderfully in dim light and = total darkness. =20 Unfortunately, the built in applications are nowhere as good as the = 200lx. On average, It takes longer to get things done. At the margins, I=20 don't think I will use this device longer than I'll have to. Regards, David Ball ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 17:32:05 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM Comments: To: David Ball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Barry wrote on 1/26/01 9:22 am: >> Learn Graffiti. It takes 20 minutes to learn the >> basics and it's much easier and faster than the >> onscreenkeyboard. As you use it you learn the >> rest of it and get even faster. > > I'm trying. I find the punctation rather hard, so I find > myself using the keyboard quite often for certain > letters. So far,I find it a struggle to learn.. That was pretty much my experience. It took a week or two to totally wean myself from the onscreen keyboard. Actually what helped most was when I found out about the instant grafiti help. That's a long upstroke from the bottom of the screen to the top. It's a little clumsier than the onscreen keyboard but it teaches you as you use it. > Unfortunately, the built in applications are nowhere > as good as the 200lx. On average, It takes longer to > get things done. At the margins, I don't think I will use > this device longer than I'll have to. Agreed. I wasn't comparing it with the 200lx. It's only serious advantages are the backlight (on the 3c, my 3x backlight is totally inadequate) and the light weight and small size. If your needs are light and it's mostly used to look up phone numbers and addresses, the Palm wins. For anything else the 200lx is the big winner. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 04:00:38 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Fluff: The Degree Confluence Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I know you're all gadget freaks out there, so many of you probably have GPS = receivers. Here is a project that might interest you. Some of you may find = it more worthwhile than SETI... :o) The following is snipped from the FAQ: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The Degree Confluence Project The goal of the project is to visit each of the latitude and longitude = integer degree intersections in the world, and to take pictures at each = location. The pictures, along with a narrative describing the adventures it = took to get there are then posted on this web site. This creates an = organized sampling of the world. Another goal is to document the changes at these locations over time. = Although we initially want to visit as many different locations as = possible, don't hesitate to revisit a confluence if you're in the area. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The Degree Confluence Project website is at: http://confluence.org You don't need a GPS navigator to participate, but it makes it easier.=20 Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 22:04:24 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM Comments: To: Barry MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Barry > > Agreed. I wasn't comparing it with the 200lx. It's only > serious advantages are the backlight (on the 3c, my 3x backlight > is totally inadequate) and the light weight and small size. If > your needs are light and it's mostly used to look up phone > numbers and addresses, the Palm wins. For anything else the > 200lx is the big winner. That, and synching up with Outlook at work. I can read and reply to the various emails during the day, as I'm rarely at my workstation. Five minutes here and there really adds up. The synchronization features and the backlight are great. The various software programs available for it on the Internet are quite good...so I find myself enjoying the "Avantgo" features and using it as an "ebook." For notetaking in meetings, the built-in programs, and Lotus123, the 200LX wins hands down for serious work. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 21:44:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Subject: outlook syncing : WAS Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI - I have no problem pseudo-syncing with Outlook at work via Cameron's program. The key is to use the 200LX as the primary entry tool. Occasionally, I receive appointments at work via Outlook and for these, I create an entry by hand on my 200LX. Of course, this results in duplicate entries when I copy over to Outlook, but I can live with that. Just my .02 worth. john - n0hj David Ball wrote: > > That, and synching up with Outlook at work. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 23:38:13 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: PNR v3.6 Jacques Belin writes: > > Well, if you look at the headers of his message, you will be more > interested : > > User-Agent: PNR/3.7b1 (Palmtop News Reader) Oh no my secret is out! I'm still playing around with the source code of PNR! And I thought I was keeping it secret -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 22:46:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Fluff: The Degree Confluence Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, that is very cool -- another reason to go hiking AND to buy ANOTHER gadget! Certainly "fluffy" and maybe not as worthwhile as some things, but more so than others, and quite interesting! I wonder if I can get my wife and kids to help me...? Thanks, Owen. ;-) Regards, Richard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:26:48 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Long Phone Numbers Comments: To: "Folts, Doug" In-Reply-To: <3A6F0372F39ED411A65700A0C9E1FABC070D38@mad_io> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >1800123456,,12345678901,,1234567890 In other words, I'm dialing my calling >ATDT modem command or is the number too long? Any suggestions? >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Hi Doug & list You can save 2 characters in the above by changing what a comma stands for. ie default value for a comma is 2 seconds. Change using ATs8=x where value of x is 0-255 ie in the above I'd change s8 to 4 and use one comma. And you can skip the T in brackets ATD(T) if using a terminal program. I couldnt get an AT prompt in CCMail (Maybe I'm blind) but I did find on page 26-12 and 26-13 of the HPLX manual that you can run a script after the modems connect. If I understand what you are doing above the connect 14400 message would occur after the 1800 number when you could run a script file Briefly make an ascii file using memo and save in C:\_dat with .lcf extension | means ~ causes 2 second pause so I guess the above would be ~~12345678901 (maybe a here)~~1234567890 (maybe a here)then save it. To logon dial 1800 number, once active, Menu,C,R,Tab, arrow to the script you saved then F10 Once all bugs are out Menu, F4,F7,specify LCF,F10,F10,F10 I hope the above helps Any input from CCMail Guru's? Cheers Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 14:23:28 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: PNR v3.71 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 00:12:54 +0100 >From: Jacques Belin >> How about sharing your secret on where you got version 3.6. My copy was >> just recently downloaded from Super (a few weeks ago) and it says version= > 3.5. > >Well, if you look at the headers of his message, you will be more >interested : > > User-Agent: PNR/3.7b1 (Palmtop News Reader) Jacques, Sorry, don't get headers since I get the list in digest form. And what bug fixes or added features are included in this new version? Does it also include the changes David did? Also, don't forget to post the site where we can get the updated copy. regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 14:23:25 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: Re: pnr question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> So David, where can I get a copy of the new version wherein I can swap >> between a database file while the compose mail dialog box is open. > >www.geocities.com/david_becher/PnrHome.html David ... Thanks for the tip. Downloaded a copy and will upgrade my version tonite. I, for one, am grateful to you for keeping a great piece of software updated. regards, Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:58:18 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Re: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200101271503.KAA03218@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vic, I did not receive your reply, please try again Thanks, Michael Berrier -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Victor Roberts Sent: Samstag, Januar 27, 2001 16.03 Uhr To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! Are you sure it can run with a CGA screen? Some DOS programs required an EGA or VGA screen. Vic Roberts On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:10:45 +0100, Michael Berrier wrote: > > even with 512k I'm unable to get the program run, any ideas further?? > Thanks for help > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of > Michael Berrier > Sent: Sonntag, Januar 07, 2001 12.18 Uhr > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! > > I found a promising project management program from Parcell Softarwe, Geneva > IL, USA. After installing on the LX I was not able to get it running. The > system shows " not enough memory " > > The doc file says as requirements : 512k, hard disc and DOS 3.3 > > What am I doing wrong ? Does anyone from the list have any experience with > the software easy project 4.0 itself ? or is it basic problem with the LX > I'm faced with. Any help is appreciated , I will report to the list about my > experiences with ep 4.0 The result under DOS (notebook) are very promising. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:44:15 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Long Phone Numbers In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010127072648.00999990@powerup.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Russell Hemery wrote: > If I understand what you are doing above the connect 14400 > message would occur after the 1800 number when you could run > a script file That wouldn't work, because the calling card # and # to dial (which come after the 1800 # in Ray's example) need to be sent as DTMF tones. Anything sent after the connection is made is sent as pure data. Ray, I tested my ThinFax 1414LXM (which should be similar or identical to yours) under DataComm, and discovered that the max length of the dial string is 38 characters (not including ATDT). The 39th character immediately triggers the error you mentioned. So if you can cut your dial string down to that length, you should be fine. Try Russell's suggestion: > You can save 2 characters in the above by changing what a > comma stands for. ie default value for a comma is 2 seconds. > Change using ATs8=x where value of x is 0-255 ie in the > above I'd change s8 to 4 and use one comma. And if that still doesn't work, you're pretty much stuck with the Manual Dial option in cc:Mail. Hope that helps. -- Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:48:58 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Long Phone Numbers In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Adrian Ho wrote: > Ray,Ý...¨ I meant Doug Folts, of course. Man, I'm exhausted. 8-) -- Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:25:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Floppy drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Yes, Accurite has a PCMCIA Floppy disk drive. I have an > > extra one at the moment. Also works with the Omnibooks 300, > > 425, 430, 530, etc. =Bob= > > What does it take to get it to work on the Omnibooks? > I need a floppy drive for my Omnibook. This might depend on the model of Omnibook. 300-430 used one type different from the other models (530-800). Though there are a fair number of Omnibook people on this list, the question is probably better raised on the Omnibook list group. Here's a link to the FAQ -> ftp://elektro.cmhnet.org/pub/omnilist/FAQ Some good info: http://home.earthlink.net/~qman/ http://www.data-plumber.com/laptops.htm To subscribe to the OB list, email to: omni-req@elektro.cmhnet.org - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:51:57 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Best of both worlds ... was Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Agreed. I wasn't comparing it with the 200lx. It's only > serious advantages are the backlight (on the 3c, my 3x backlight > is totally inadequate) and the light weight and small size. If > your needs are light and it's mostly used to look up phone > numbers and addresses, the Palm wins. For anything else the > 200lx is the big winner. I have a solution for you people that can't seem to find happiness with either Palm or 200LX (and who aren't Epoch people). Use them both. Jury-rig a Pilot to the top of your 200LX using a friction hinge along the front edge. This makes the whole contraption sorta like a chunky Pilot (like John Goodman in the movie "Always"). Form factor: When the LX is closed, the Pilot faces upward so you use it like a regular one, only now it's got a MUCH better grip and if you drop it, well we all know how well the LX takes a lickin' (except the right hinge, so maybe the Pilot should go over that corner). When you need to use the LX, just open the LX screen and use it as normal .... the Pilot is out of the way! Backlighting: For all you LX people who complain about the lack of backlighting, you can rotate the Pilot forward and let the friction hinge hold it in place over the LX screen. Turn on the Pilot backlight and voila ... an overhead light for the LX (and using no power from the LX). And on really sunny days, the Pilot can also be a nice sunscreen. Synching: Just plug the appropriate cable into either box (Pilot/LX) and do your thing. Need to "hot synch"? Just slide the Pilot out of its hinge and drop it into the cradle ... you can also do this separation when LX or Pilot purists approach. Even better would be a cable to connect the Pilot to the LX serial port for real-time data exchanges. The BORG PDA .... the time has come. - Longden PS My next idea will also include an Omnibook, but that's for another post. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:57:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Neill Currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neill Currie Subject: Re: Thumb typing on Palm and 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a 3rd party app for the Palm that allows the use of an overlay on the "Graffiti area", then you can "type" on it with thumbs, similar to some peoples practice on the 200LX. Don't know the name, but think I saw it in a recent PocketPC or Handheld PC magazine.......Neill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 10:56:45 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HP Flashdisk works with IBM thinkpad 560X MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > y thinkpad 560X (WIn98Lite) recocnises > my HP 10 meg flash card (F1013A) without > any prompting. It reports it as "Sandisk ATA > Flashdisk" I also think the thinkpad will > communicate with the palmtop > using SIR but I haven't checked it out yet. I have tried connecting my 200lx to my thinkpad via IR and it worked just right the first time. Just be sure the IR is enabled and the settings are the same on both devices. I also have an old Sandisc (Epson) SDP5-10 10 meg card which I think is the same one HP was shipping at the time. It works fine in my Thinkpad, too. It works in everything except my 95lx. The copyright date on it is 1993. I probably bought it a year or two after that. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 12:10:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: Post/LX data sharing, thanks for the directions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Subject: Post/LX data sharing > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:28:03 +0200 > From: Daniel Hertrich >Hi friends, >I would like to share an idea with you: >Recently I bought an HP Omnibook 430 as a big brother for my 200LX, mainly >for LaTeX and MS Office work. >Now I thought it would be a good idea to also do all my email on the >Omnibook if I have it with me rather than using both HPs, one for >my work and one for my email... Daniel Thanks for the description, this is exactly what I have been planning to do with my Omnibook 425. 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It's from David's... > And what bug > fixes or added features are included in this new version? Does it also > include the changes David did? Also, don't forget to post the site where > we can get the updated copy. I think David will respond better than me to these questions ! Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:47:59 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: Floppy drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Evan, With the 200LX or the Omnibooks the Accurite comes with a manual and a self installing disk. The PCMCIA floppy will show up as drive F: or G: (or the next available drive letter on the system). It also comes with an AC adaptor so as to not be hard on batteries. It can run with or without the AC adaptor. The only problem I've ever had is some software that refuses to install unless it thinks it is on drive A:. =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:27:40 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Long Phone Numbers Comments: To: Adrian Ho In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> a script file >That wouldn't work, because the calling card # and # to dial >(which come after the 1800 # in Ray's example) need to be sent >as DTMF tones. >Ray, I tested my ThinFax 1414LXM (which should be similar or >identical to yours) under DataComm, and discovered that the max >length of the dial string is 38 characters (not including ATDT). >The 39th character immediately triggers the error you mentioned. 3 ways to cut dialing sequence then 1 change default of comma as mentioned previously with S8 register and second use ATD instead of ATDT. Another possible is to try storing the dialing sequence in modems memory. Similar to memory in a cellphone. You'd need to check your modem manual. ie One of my modems has a 128 character memory store per dial yet only 40 character possible without storing. Cheers Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:12:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Thumb typing on Palm and 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neill Currie" To: Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 11:57 AM Subject: Re: Thumb typing on Palm and 200LX > There is a 3rd party app for the Palm that allows the use of an overlay > on the "Graffiti area", then you can "type" on it with thumbs, similar to > some peoples practice on the 200LX. Don't know the name, but think I saw > it in a recent PocketPC or Handheld PC magazine.......Neill It is called Thumbtype: http://www.osw.co.jp/english/products/mobile/thumb.htm ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:26:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-V Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-V Subject: Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 6:32 PM Subject: Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM > >> Barry wrote on 1/26/01 9:22 am: > >> Learn Graffiti. It takes 20 minutes to learn the > >> basics and it's much easier and faster than the > >> onscreenkeyboard. As you use it you learn the > >> rest of it and get even faster. > > > > I'm trying. I find the punctation rather hard, so I find > > myself using the keyboard quite often for certain > > letters. So far,I find it a struggle to learn.. Get keyb+graffity Hack. It will allow you to use the on-screen keyboard and graffity at the same time, the best of both worlds. Using Graffity all the time is tiring, and using the on-screen keyboard all the time gets boring after a while, so being able to do both is great. Find it at: http://www.palmgear.com/software/redirector.cfm/keybgraf.zip?pro dID=4933&type=zip Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:01:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: ÝFwd: Connecting ZIP drive to serial port of the LX¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EBB867A565DB1418E48140E8" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EBB867A565DB1418E48140E8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I appologize for the lenght of the quote. Please don't start a flame over this. I thought it might shed some light on what Hans and I have been trying in order to get a 250mb Zip drive to work with the 200LX. WEB --------------EBB867A565DB1418E48140E8 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from spdmraac.compuserve.com (Ý149.174.206.154¨) by osgood.mail.mindspring.net (Mindspring Mail Service) with ESMTP id t781ce.ond.30ahi43 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmraac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.3) id GAA26214 for geologist@mindspring.com; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:42:05 -0500 (EST) Sender: HansHoenen@compuserve.com Received: from compuserve.com (fra-pci-lah-vty14.as.wcom.net Ý212.211.68.14¨) by spdmraac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-REL-1.3) with SMTP id GAA26170 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:41:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 06:41:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200101281141.GAA26170@spdmraac.compuserve.com> From: Hans Hoenen To: WEB Subject: Re: Connecting ZIP drive to serial port of the LX X-Mailer: POST/LX 3.0a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Hallo William, > I really hope this works for you. I like to find new items that > work > with our little 200LX. Let me know how things go. Even if you > get > an error message, this may provide a clue. The error message:can't find a new drive...;this was every time the same result which my friend and I got yesterday evening,trying your 4 files in different situations.We did come to the conclusion,that the problem is the file aspippm1.sys. Now I can definitly say,we have tried 4 different guest.exe,2 different aspippm1.sys files-no sucess;thanks for your files,which were different from ours. (Now I remember,a year ago,I have written to IOMEGA with our 250Mb Zip drive problem-have difficulties to describe it correctly in your language- but never got an IOM answer.) This morning I have read-as you too(?)- in the list from friday that the 250Mb drive will not work with the palmtop. > Good luck, now it's good to know that the 100Mb Zip drive works well;finally found a source to store digital camera pictures on holiday journeys. Hans Hoenen --------------EBB867A565DB1418E48140E8-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:22:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "thomas e. nemeth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "thomas e. nemeth" Subject: shortening the hplx cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I want to shorten the standard hp cable (modem, transfile, cpack whatever= your use). I found the cable too long for the Keymate keyboard adapter. = Need to lop off about 2 ft, too ungainly when I use the Dauphin keyboard = Ed Keefe mentioned in a recent PTP email. Presumably, it'll be a simple cut= , resoldered, seal. Anything else I need to know? As always, many thanks. Tom ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 18:38:27 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: FLUFF: The Fluff Factor: More! In-Reply-To: Richard and Patti Smith's message of "Tue, 23 Jan 2001 20:50:46 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > you answer my question? (Other than benevolence, why should I change > the way I use my software just to make your (or anyones else's) life > easier?) When you post to a mailing list, you're writing for an audience: the subscribers of that list. There's something to be said for making your message easy for the members of that audience to read. It's easy for them to press the 'delete' or 'next' button rather than wading through MIME encoding, HTML, excessive quoted text, jagged-edge text, and whatever else makes it harder to get to the meaning of your message. -Frank McConnell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 03:04:15 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fluff: The Degree Confluence Project Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Yes, that is very cool -- another reason to go hiking AND to buy > ANOTHER gadget! Certainly "fluffy" and maybe not as worthwhile > as some things, but more so than others, and quite interesting! > I wonder if I can get my wife and kids to help me...? > I believe an HP has been to one in Germany. Via the author of VR and other HP programs. At least his new gps went. I guess I should ask him! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:13:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! Comments: To: m_berrier@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Michael, I do not quite understand your note. The only reply I had sent as of this note of ours is quotes below your note. I did receive an e-mail stating that the program runs only in VGA mode. That would explain the problem. And, no I don't know how to fix it. Does the program have a commend line option or "switch" that forces CGA mode. If not, perhaps there is a VGA emulator for the LX, but I have never heard of one. Perhaps someone else on the list will set in and help. Vic Roberts On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:58:18 +0100, Michael Berrier wrote: > > Vic, > > I did not receive your reply, please try again Thanks, Michael Berrier > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of > Victor Roberts > Sent: Samstag, Januar 27, 2001 16.03 Uhr > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! > > Are you sure it can run with a CGA screen? Some DOS programs > required an EGA or VGA screen. > > Vic Roberts > > On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:10:45 +0100, Michael Berrier > wrote: > > > > > even with 512k I'm unable to get the program run, any ideas further?? > > Thanks for help > > > > Michael > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of > > Michael Berrier > > Sent: Sonntag, Januar 07, 2001 12.18 Uhr > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > Subject: Easy Project, DOS program on LX !! need help !! > > > > I found a promising project management program from Parcell Softarwe, > Geneva > > IL, USA. After installing on the LX I was not able to get it running. The > > system shows " not enough memory " > > > > The doc file says as requirements : 512k, hard disc and DOS 3.3 > > > > What am I doing wrong ? Does anyone from the list have any experience > with > > the software easy project 4.0 itself ? or is it basic problem with the LX > > I'm faced with. Any help is appreciated , I will report to the list about > my > > experiences with ep 4.0 The result under DOS (notebook) are very > promising. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:10:32 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: Fluff: The Degree Confluence Project Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > as some things, but more so than others, and > quite interesting! I've been woiking on a similar more practikal neverending project. Using the LX database, I kreated a template for info on all the cities and towns on earth. Each record kontains info as: airport to town, direction and distance. Three of four Best guest houses per Lonely Planet or Footprint. Intresting stuff in the area. Medical problems in area. Calling codes. Emergency numbers. Transportation in and out. Etc. The reeson to do this is because there are dozens of travel guides to any one place and the LX is less bulky and weighs less than any one guide. also theres something good in every guide, by kombining, yu have the best of everything. Does anyone else do this?????? We kould trade DBs. yor pal al........... ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 23:02:03 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , James Grenert Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Grenert Subject: Saving characters in cc:Mail modem strings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi. There is a file in your C:\_dat directory called *.mdm which is the cc:Mail modem string file (I'm not sure of the specific name of the first half of the file; I've renamed my own file MHZ.MDM for my Megahertz modem. Unless you've added your own file, there should only be one with the .mdm extension.). You can edit this in Memo or PE or whatever your favorite editor is. The pertinent lines in this case are the following: SETUP=... AUTO TONE DIAL=... I'm sure that you can add the setting which changes the comma parameter by adding it to the end of the SETUP= line. The AUTO TONE DIAL= line specifies the prefix to add to all tone-dialed calls. Normally, it is simply ATDT. It might be possible to add the 1800 number to the end of this. You would then need to remove the 1800 part from the phone number to be dialed. Of course, this will mean that all calls you make from the program will first go through that 1800 number. If you don't always want to do this, you can make a second copy of the .mdm file leaving the AUTO TONE DIAL= setting intact. Then, make a new Host setup (via Edit Settings on the Connect screen) which uses this copy of the original .mdm file so that you can select whether or not the 1800 number is used (I assume this is for a calling card.) by choosing the appropriate host. Sorry my description is so confusing... J. P. Grenert grenert@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 22:18:49 -1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Graham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Graham Subject: Motorola TalkAbout with WWW/LX; Quck Link scanner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a Motorola TalkAbout cel-phone, and have the cable and software to use it as a modem with my laptop.  It works.  I'd like to use it with my HP200LX using WWW/LX.  Has anyone done this?  If so can they tell me what they used for a setup.  Otherwise, Avi, can you give me a suggestion of how to start with it?

Also, I just got a Quick Link scanner.  Don't have it working with my laptop yet, but want to be able to use it with my HP200LX.  Has anyone done this? 

Aloha - bob     \ooo_ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:58:46 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Saving characters in cc:Mail modem strings Comments: To: James Grenert In-Reply-To: <20010129070203.70393.qmail@web11601.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, James Grenert wrote: > There is a file in your C:\_dat directory called *.mdm > Ý...¨ > are the following: > SETUP=... > AUTO TONE DIAL=... > I'm sure that you can add the setting which changes the > comma parameter by adding it to the end of the SETUP= line. Just learned something new today. 8-) > The AUTO TONE DIAL= line specifies the prefix to add to all > tone-dialed calls. Normally, it is simply ATDT. It might > be possible to add the 1800 number to the end of this. It will definitely work, but that doesn't get you around the modem's dial string length limitation -- that can't be changed on any modem I know. In any case, cc:Mail doesn't limit the length of your phone number AFAIK, so this doesn't actually buy you much. AUTO TONE DIAL would normally be used for short commonly-used prefixes like external line access or disabling call-waiting. -- Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:22:30 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Pawel Dworniak Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Pawel Dworniak Subject: HP95LX SRAM Cadr question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Just one small question - is there any chance to read and write 2MB SRAM card on notebook (IBM ThinkPad 760EL)? Do I need software driver? Thanks for answer Paul Dworniak, POLAND ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 04:42:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Dauphin Mini KB / QEdit Macros Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If any of you have used the Dauphin super-mini keyboard you've noticed that it has a quirk. Namely, it sometimes or always initializes with the NumLock status ON. Very irritating since the numeric keypad is embedded. Some of these keyboards also come to life with the CapsLock ON, some even with ScrollLock ON, or any combination of the three. Lockoff.com (15 bytes)is a utility available on Simtel's DOS site that sets the status of Num/Caps/Scroll to off upon system startup when called from within Autoexec.bat such as C:\UTIL\LOCKOFF.COM If you need the Lockoff.com file send me an email off list and I'll attach it with my reply. For you QEdit fans - I'm updating the 1991 Glossary macro to allow QEdit ver 4.0 (TSE Jr) to work with expanded abbreviations, ie type sy press F10 sy is erased, replaced by Sincerely Yours, (like Quick-LX and others). I should have it done this week and will announce it here. It will be called SH (for Short-Hand) and run inside QEdit as an autoload macro assignable to any function key, control+key or alt+key combination to activate. Alt+Z would allow for a quick thumb-roll :) Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:57:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Best of both worlds ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Jury-rig a Pilot to the top of your 200LX using a friction hinge > > The BORG PDA .... the time has come. I like this idea! My co-worker with a palm Pilot wouldn't let me borrow = his to try this out, however > PS My next idea will also include an Omnibook, but that's for another = post. I can't wait for your next ground-breaking idea Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:54:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff: The Degree Confluence Project Comments: To: hobchi@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >hobchi wrote: >I've been woiking on a similar more practikal >neverending project. >Using the LX database, I kreated a template >for info on all the cities and towns on earth. For this project...how is he going to spell Chicago, California, Colorado, etc? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:31:16 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Best of both worlds ... was Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Longden Loo wrote: > When the LX is closed, the Pilot faces upward so you use it > like a regular one, only now it's got a MUCH better grip and > if you drop it, well we all know how well the LX takes a > lickin' (except the right hinge, so maybe the Pilot should > go over that corner). Unless it falls Palm-side down, then there's an even bigger mess to clean up than a Palm-only drop. Kinda like John Goodman (since you brought him up) butt-slamming a Twinkie. 8-) > For all you LX people who complain about the lack of > backlighting, you can rotate the Pilot forward and let the > friction hinge hold it in place over the LX screen. Turn on > the Pilot backlight and voila ... an overhead light for the > LX (and using no power from the LX). Are the color Palms really that bright? The greyscale ones don't backlight worth a da*n. > The BORG PDA .... the time has come. And all this time, I thought a Borg PDA was something you plugged into your nervous system... 17.5 years to total assimilation Resistance is futile -- Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:34:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: HP Flashdisk works with IBM thinkpad 560X MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" On January 28, 2001 10:57 AM, Barry wrote: >I also have an old Sandisc (Epson) SDP5-10 10 meg card which I >think is the same one HP was shipping at the time. It works fine >in my Thinkpad, too. It works in everything except my 95lx. The SunDisk card justs need a driver on the 95LX. If anyone wants it, I can email it to you (along with flashcard Format and FDisk programs. Bob Robert_Feldman@jdedwards.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:11:05 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: PAL Gold light vs Maglights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Some of you who carry a flashlight with the LX (usually a mini-maglight) might be interested in one of these instead: http://theledlight.com/palights.html I bought a PAL Gold a year ago and have been pretty impressed with its longevity. The flashlight is the size of a large cigarette lighter and uses a readily available 9 volt battery. Nice to have by the bedside also cuz the "always on" mode puts out a low intensity beam that makes it easy to find in the dark (saved me many a stubbed toes). Low power mode is rated at 200 hours before battery replacement and it easily illuminates the LX screen. I always bring it on trips cuz my wife and kids were always burning out the regular flashlights doing puzzles and such. Cheap, versatile and durable ... a good companion to the LX. The PAL Gold puts out a brighter light than the original PAL light. The only thing better would be waterproof ... but then neither is the LX. I'm also keen on the little keychain LED lights such as the Photon II ( http://www.theledlight.com/photon.html ), but they use 2016/2032 lithium batteries and while they're MUCH brighter, they don't last nearly as long and the batteries are expensive. - Longden PS - My LX is usually plugged into a pocket modem via the serial port by the bed, which is why I never got one of Daniel's excellent serial LED lights on ebay. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:44:33 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , j dale Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: j dale Subject: Flash memory MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have an opportunity to buy a 4mb Bay Networks Flash memory card. I can no longer find any information about the card on the Nortel/Bay site. The card is intended to be used in a network router or switch. I have found that there is a piece of utility software that will allow access to this card from a PC. Otherwise, a PC can't use it. Does anyone have any information on this card? Anyone using one in their 200lx ? Replys to the list or direct email appreciated. Jeff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:52:01 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Don Puscher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Puscher Subject: FS: CD Infobase Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cleaning out the closet. Please respond directly, as I read the list in digest form. $30 -- 1998 CD Infobase $40 -- 1999 CD Infobase $15 -- 2600 magazine (www.2600.com) Autumn 1995 vol 12, no 3 to vol 14, no 2 (8 issues) **************************************************************** Don Puscher dpuscher@qualcomm.com "The machine will be his weapon, his work bench and his lectern." -- Nicholas Negroponte ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:25:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: LX-Mapblast UPDATE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Due to abuse of the services on my LX-MapBlast pages, I have had to reimplement some security measures that was causing problems for some people in the past. I hope this will be sufficient. If you have trouble accessing the sites features, let me know and I will try to work out a solution. In the latest incident, someone wrote a program (VB I believe) to automate sending requests to my system to convert addresses to lat/lon. Then he began sending thousands of requests to my server which sent the system load through the roof. It looks like he was systematically converting street addresses in San Francisco to Lat/Lon. Some people sure are rude :-) Cheers, Mike Kopplin http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/lxmapblast.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:47:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: LX-Mapblast UPDATE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 14:25:37 -0700, Mike Kopplin wrote: ÝSnipped some¨ > Due to abuse of the services on my LX-MapBlast pages, I have had > to reimplement some security measures that was causing problems > for some people in the past. > Some people sure are rude :-) Yes people sure are. Is there any chance in finding out who the individual was? And then kick his ass? Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:32:18 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: LX-Mapblast UPDATE - Now Changed back In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Due to abuse of the services on my LX-MapBlast pages, I have had > > to reimplement some security measures that was causing problems > > for some people in the past. > > > Some people sure are rude :-) > > Yes people sure are. Is there any chance in finding out who the > individual was? And then kick his ass? It wouldn't be too hard to find out, but then, I don't think he was doing it maliciously. Just poor programming. If he had written his client to play nice, instead of flooding my system with requests, I probably wouldn't have noticed for a while, and might have even let him continue. For now he's blocked from the site completely. I've also found that my security measures have the unfortuneate side effect of blocking access by WWW/LX. By checking the referrer information in the http headers, I could see if the request was from one of my pages, or from an outside source. The problem is WWW/LX doesn't seem to set the referrer information, and so access was denied. Since LX access was the number one reason for the LX-MapBlast site, I've turned that check off again, and for now will rely on blocking the bad guys at the firewall. Cheers, Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 13:31:48 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: PNR v3.71 Jacques Belin writes: > > And what bug > > fixes or added features are included in this new version? Does it also > > include the changes David did? Also, don't forget to post the site where > > we can get the updated copy. > > I think David will respond better than me to these questions ! The highest released version of PNR is version 3.6 Version 3.7b1 etc is under development and I use it to check it out. When I come out with what I consider stable, useful modifications, I will send a message to this list. -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 07:56:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HansHoenen@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Hoenen Subject: Hydrogen-Alpha Solar Image MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To all, it is possible to download from http://solar.spacew.com/sunnow/ the current hydrogen-alpha solar image(~315kB) to the palmtop.This image is updated every minute and gives a good impression of the "life" of our star.The picture format is *.mpg. How can I view this format wih the palmtop? Thanks for any hint. Regards Hans. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:39:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Dauphin Mini KB / QEdit Macros Hi Bob, >If any of you have used the Dauphin super-mini keyboard >you've noticed that it has a quirk... For what hand held computer is the "Dauphin" super-mini keyboard an option? Please post where I might find more info on this keyboard. I'm not familiar with it, at all. Thanks in advance, Bob. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:05:19 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Suquet, Stephan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Suquet, Stephan" Subject: Off Topic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Listers, It=B4s time for me to quit the list. You were all very helpful and it = has been really nice to feel part of a global community. I wish the best for all of you. Regards St=E9phane. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:09:40 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Don Puscher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Puscher Subject: FS: CD Infobase GONE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" SOLD $30 -- 1998 CD Infobase SOLD $40 -- 1999 CD Infobase $15 -- 2600 magazine (www.2600.com) Autumn 1995 vol 12, no 3 to vol 14, no 2 (8 issues) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:13:20 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Alternative to Accton cards for ethernet on HPLX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, I know that Accton and Silicom ethernet PCMCIA cards work well in the 200LX, but are they a convenient choice? I mean they take up the only card slot in HPLX and leave no room for multi-MB flash card. Few people can afford the bucks for internal 32/96MB RAM. I just saw an older broschure by Lantronix, showing a Micro Serial Server (MSS-T-01) that is, a device originally designed to allow true LAN remote monitoring / management for computing appliances with only a serial console port. This MSS-T-1 has a DB-25 serial port and a 10Base-T ethernet plug and support UDP, TCP/IP, IPX, LAT concurrently. The size is app. a VHS casette and they have flash ROM microcode. I wonder if these could be used the other way around, thus serving as a network connection for HPLX via its serial port and still leave the PCMCIA slot open. Of course speed would be poor, only one- tenth of the Accton (115,2kbps vs 100kbyte/s), but may be enough for Internet use, where world-wide-wait is the limit on bandwith, not the kind of wire used. So e-mail, download, web may be OK. But someone would need to have access to one of these devices and write a driver for use with the LX. Sincerely: Tamas Feher ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:11:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Fluff: New PC-on-a-chip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Maybe not fluff, but not entirely on topic. Thought people might be interested in the following: http://www.zflinux.com/machz.html, a low-power 586 PC on a chip, runs Linux. Might be useable in a new palmtop. The company also makes a 486 on a chip that comes with DR-DOS, but it looks like it uses too much power. Robert A. Feldman Robert_Feldman@jdedwards.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:16:56 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Best of both worlds ... was Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Are the color Palms really that bright? > The greyscale ones don't backlight worth a da*n. The real advantage of the color palms is the brightness of the backlight. Color is secondary. I keep the brightness control at about 12%. That's all it needs. At about 20% it's too bright a light source and it becomes bothersome. I'm reading Crichton's "Timeline" on my 3c to try it out as an ebook reader and I've been turning out the lights and reading for an hour in total darkness. Because my eyes adjust to the darkness the 3c becomes too bright and I have to turn down the brightness to about 6%.. To answer your question, the color palms are really that bright. I also have a palm 3x and the backlight on that is useless. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:44:36 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi Some times ago some guy reported luckily, that he has gained the lotus-123 from some net-point. Then I tried the mentioned address, but without success. By studying the ng for 123 I found exciting features, which let araise once more my desire for gaining those discettes, to install lotus-123 on my PC. Who has a hint? K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:37:39 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: LX-Mapblast UPDATE Comments: To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/29/01 -0700, you wrote: >Due to abuse of the services on my LX-MapBlast pages, I have had >to reimplement some security measures that was causing problems >for some people in the past. I hope this will be sufficient. If >you have trouble accessing the sites features, let me know and >I will try to work out a solution. That's a shame. You do something nice for the community and someone has to be ugly about it... Sad. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 14:24:20 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Wittkamper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Wittkamper Subject: Re: LX-Mapblast UPDATE Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List: It seems to me that some people are jumping to conclusions. He even said that it was probably done thru ignorance. John A. Wittkamper :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: A Meshar To: Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: Re: LX-Mapblast UPDATE > At 1/29/01 -0700, you wrote: > >Due to abuse of the services on my LX-MapBlast pages, I have had > >to reimplement some security measures that was causing problems > >for some people in the past. I hope this will be sufficient. If > >you have trouble accessing the sites features, let me know and > >I will try to work out a solution. > > That's a shame. You do something nice for the community and someone has to > be ugly about it... Sad. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 14:46:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Fluff: New PC-on-a-chip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well, how about the RIM Blackberry? It's got a 386, a thumb-type-able keyboard, a two-way radio and it fits on a pager-style belt clip. Has anybody hacked the Blackberry yet? What operating system is it running? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:28:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Nov & Dec Archives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 30 Jan 2001 14:40:02 -0500 (EST) Hi All: I (FINALLY) updated the HPLX-L archives pages with the Nov & Dec 2000 HPLX-L archives. Sorry for the delay. * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:42:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Fluff: Re: Thumb typing on Palm and 200LX Hi All, >It is called Thumbtype: >http://www.osw.co.jp/english/products/mobile/thumb.htm ThumbType looks interesting. Has anyone tried it yet? Also, it's priced in Japanese Yen. Can anyone give me a rough estimate of how much it would cost in US dollars for ThumbType and it's shipment to the US? Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:52:48 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Dauphin Mini KB / QEdit Macros MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John J Vanderstel asked about the Dauphin mini-keyboard. I use it with the LX as an alternative to a full-sized keyboard when on the road. It's actually a DOS keyboard. I have no idea what it was originally intended for. It works well with the most recent Keymate drivers from Thaddeus and Mack. Cost is $10+S/H at http://www.gatewayelex.com/gadgets4.htm .ed.ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 00:34:15 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Fluff: New PC-on-a-chip In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:11:04 -0700 "Feldman, Robert" a =E9crit: > a low-power 586 PC on a chip,=20 It seems it is not really complete. It seems tht you must add a video card. I don't see any video logic in the chip diagram. Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:34:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Small Equation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > >>Anyone here know what an analog computer is? Slide rules? Rotary > calculators? Brontosauri?<< Certainly a slide rule is a form of analog computer. But the term "analog computer" most often applied to analog electronic circuits, usually vacuum tube based, that were used to solve differential and integral equations. Instead of "numerical integration" as is done with todays digital computers, you would create integrators and differentiators using the analog circuit elements, connect them together with the appropriate scale factors to represent your equation and set them running to provide the answer. Since they were not digital, there was no programming language. To change integration time constants, for example, You changed the resistor or capacitor values. In later years, after digital computers were introduced, there were analog computers which were controlled by digital computers. That is, the digital computers set the various scale factors and integration time constants, but analog circuits solved the equations. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:37:48 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Dauphin Mini KB / QEdit Macros Comments: To: Ed Keefe In-Reply-To: <004001c08b0f$62ac4040$7b49e33f@ed01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 1/30/01 -0600, Ed Keefe wrote: >John J Vanderstel asked about the Dauphin mini-keyboard. > >I use it with the LX as an alternative to a full-sized keyboard when on the >road. It's actually a DOS keyboard. I have no idea what it was originally >intended for. It works well with the most recent Keymate drivers from >Thaddeus and Mack. Cost is $10+S/H at > >http://www.gatewayelex.com/gadgets4.htm Looks like no more :-( I think their inventory consists of what they find and buy, then it is gone. I got one while it lasted and used it once - nice feel... I like the way they tuck the cable, but it makes it hard to use on my floor tower PC - sitting for hours under the desk crouched right by the machine ... Still a nice keyboard. I bought it because the Dauphine was an early attempt at making really small portable notebooks with industrial strength frame. They were use in all sorts of field applications. Last time I saw one was after the Northridge Earthquake in Janury 1994 - the people from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and the insurance companies ran around with these little machines taking information for claims. The KBD must have been an add on to these computers, since the agents were going tapping on the screens and using an on-screen keyboard... >.ed.ÝPTP¨ > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:44:09 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Best of both worlds ... was Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > > Are the color Palms really that bright? > > The greyscale ones don't backlight worth a da*n. > > The real advantage of the color palms is the brightness of the > backlight. Color is secondary. I keep the brightness control > at about 12%. That's all it needs. At about 20% it's too > bright a light source and it becomes bothersome. Maybe it can be used to light up the screen of the Palmtop? :-> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:44:13 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Hydrogen-Alpha Solar Image Comments: To: HansHoenen@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hans Hoenen wrote: > To all, > > it is possible to download from http://solar.spacew.com/sunnow/ the > current hydrogen-alpha solar image(~315kB) to the palmtop.This image is > updated every minute and gives a good impression of the "life" of our > star.The picture format is *.mpg. Tried it. The image I get is in JPEG (.jpg) format. LXPIC by Stephan Peichl will display it on the palmtop. The image does not render too well on the palmtop. There is also a movie to download which is MPEG - the one I tried was approx. 1600K. I do not know of any software to play MPEGs on the Palmtop, sorry. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:50:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Qualcomm 820 as an LX modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hoping someone can help me here... I have a Qualcomm 820 Cell phone, and just bought a data cable so that I could use the 820 as a modem. When I go to connect using Post/LX it gives me a "modem not ready" error. Has anyone seen this before and know what to do? Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:58:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: Best of both worlds ... was Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm wondering why someone can't contract with a bona-fide manufacturer of LCD screens to design and manufacture a backlit screen that would work perfectly with the LX. That way Thaedeus wouldn't have to worry about peeling a layer off the existing screen, and losing half of the screens they work on. (I guess that's just the radical designer in me coming out!) Any thoughts? Mike... A Meshar wrote: > Barry wrote: > > > Are the color Palms really that bright? > > > The greyscale ones don't backlight worth a da*n. > > > > The real advantage of the color palms is the brightness of the > > backlight. Color is secondary. I keep the brightness control > > at about 12%. That's all it needs. At about 20% it's too > > bright a light source and it becomes bothersome. > > Maybe it can be used to light up the screen of the Palmtop? > :-> > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:07:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Nov & Dec Archives Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al Kind wrote: > Tue, 30 Jan 2001 14:40:02 -0500 (EST) > > Hi All: > > I (FINALLY) updated the HPLX-L archives pages with the Nov & Dec > 2000 HPLX-L archives. Sorry for the delay. > > * > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml What...no misspellings???????? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:20:31 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Best of both worlds ... was Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM Comments: To: Mike Schneider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Mike Schneider wrote: > I'm wondering why someone can't contract with a bona-fide > manufacturer of LCD screens to design and manufacture a > backlit screen that would work perfectly with the LX. I think the expense is a deterrant. Questions such as what's the market, and so on. Also, the LD on the Palmtop is extremely fine, smaller than the usual pixel size, and that must add to the cost and complexity of design and manufacturing of such a screen. > That way Thaedeus wouldn't have to worry about peeling a layer > off the existing screen, and losing half of the screens they > work on. Yeah, that would be really excellent. > (I guess that's just the radical designer in me coming out!) > Any thoughts? Keep that radical designer going! With sufficient nurturing, maybe the right idea will pop! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:43:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Nov & Dec Archives Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A77575C.BB7EE531@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > I (FINALLY) updated the HPLX-L archives pages with the Nov & Dec > > 2000 HPLX-L archives. Sorry for the delay. > > > > * > > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > > What...no misspellings???????? Different Al. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 20:01:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , isobar@BCPL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Kirk Subject: Re: Pictures of 200LX in fixed use Comments: To: Alfred Lee In-Reply-To: <002901c08836$b09462a0$0e3a8218@default.we.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:56 PM 1/26/01 -0800, you wrote: >I have connected my 200LX to a GPS and a radio for navigation and >wireless communication (non cell connection.) You are invided to >view these pictures: Very nice set up - mine is exactly (?) the same except that it's a mass of tangled wires to a cigarette plug and it keep falling off the dash when I turn... Bob kirk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:47:38 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Dauphin Mini KB Availability Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Here in the Denver area the Gateway Electronics store at 2525 N. Federal has a good supply on hand - 20 or so as of two weeks ago. Their phone number is 303.458.5444 The keyboard is wonderfully lightweight and quite usable with an LX via the Thaddeus Keymate system. Using a lithium 9v battery in the Keymate should give a good long life to the setup as well. As a take-along travelling kb, the Dauphin is quite nice, although I have wished for a long time now that the had "grown" the kb by one key-width and put the Toshiba-style right side Home,PageUp,PageDn,End keys there. Besides using it with a palmtop, it makes a great replacement/secondary kb for old laptops which may suffer from sticky keys, etc. I use one with my Toshiba 2400 laptop all the time. The PS2 connector cord is just long enough to reach up the side and plug into the aux kb port. The embedded keypad is pretty much worthless since all numeric keys are across the second row anyway. The Gateway Electronic stores have been using them at the POS terminals for years without any failure. Remarkably durable. Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:48:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Fluff: Re: Thumb typing on Palm and 200LX Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "John J Vanderstel" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 4:42 PM Subject: Fluff: Re: Thumb typing on Palm and 200LX > ThumbType looks interesting. Has anyone tried it yet? Not me, but reviews are mixed. > Also, it's priced in Japanese Yen. Can anyone give me a rough estimate > of how much it would cost in US dollars for ThumbType and it's shipment > to the US? $49.95 plus shipping from http://totalstrategies.com/thumbtype/ HTH Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:14:07 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Best of both worlds ... was Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Meshar" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Best of both worlds ... was Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM > Barry wrote: > > > Are the color Palms really that bright? > > > The greyscale ones don't backlight worth a da*n. > > > > The real advantage of the color palms is the brightness of the > > backlight. Color is secondary. I keep the brightness control > > at about 12%. That's all it needs. At about 20% it's too > > bright a light source and it becomes bothersome. > > Maybe it can be used to light up the screen of the Palmtop? I just tried that in pitch dark and it doesn't work at all. It's probably the wrong kind of light. It puts a dull glow on the palmtop screen but it isnt enough to read by. It's mostly glare. However it did light up the keyboard just fine. Oh well. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:22:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Fluff: Re: Thumb typing on Palm and 200LX >> Also, it's priced in Japanese Yen. Can anyone give me a rough estimate >> of how much it would cost in US dollars for ThumbType and it's shipment >> to the US? > >$49.95 plus shipping from http://totalstrategies.com/thumbtype/ Thanks, Domingo. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:22:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff: Re: Thumb typing on Palm and 200LX Comments: To: Domingo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Domingo wrote: > Subject: Fluff: Re: Thumb typing on Palm and 200LX > > > ThumbType looks interesting. Has anyone tried it yet? Who needs it...I have perfected the technique of typing with 2 fingers on the 200lx keyboard. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:36:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff: Re: Thumb typing on Palm and 200LX Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >John J Vanderstel wrote: >Can anyone give me a rough estimate >of how much it would cost in US dollars for ThumbType Wednesday, January 31, 2001 49.95 Japanese Yen = 0.43127 US Dollar 49.95 US Dollar (USD) = 5785.26 Japanese Yen (JPY) Shipping?????? Are you sure the price is in yen??????????? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:03:22 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Qualcomm 820 as an LX modem Comments: To: Mike Schneider In-Reply-To: <3A77533D.36034A21@ameritech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Mike, At 1/30/01 -0500, you wrote: >Hoping someone can help me here... I have a Qualcomm 820 Cell phone, and just >bought a data cable so that I could use the 820 as a modem. When I go to >connect >using Post/LX it gives me a "modem not ready" error. Has anyone seen this >before >and know what to do? Just to be technical, Post/LX really has no interaction with your modem. The program that does is WWW.EXE, which you load first, and it loads POST.EXE. The reason you get this message is this: WWW.EXE tries to initialize the modem, and it gets NOTHING back (expects an "ok"). Therefore, it assumes - to the best of its knowledge - that the modem is not ready. Here are some of the possible reasons: (1) You have it set up to look at post 1, while the modem is in port 2, or the other way... (2) The modem is receiving an invalid initialization string, and not knowing what to do with it, it ignores it. (3) there is no connection between the palmtop and the modem: Bad cable, requirement for a null modem, bad plugs on either side, whatever... (4) There is no modem in the cellphone you use. I do not know the instrument you use. If you are trying to use IR, you may have to change the port to -1. There are probably more reasons, such as corrupt program and so on... But you have something to go with. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 21:15:09 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Motorola TalkAbout with WWW/LX; Quck Link scanner Comments: To: Bob Graham In-Reply-To: <3A752769.7080801@hawaii.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Bob, At 1/28/01 -1000, you wrote: >I have a Motorola TalkAbout cel-phone, and have the cable and software to >use it as a modem with my laptop. It works. I'd like to use it with my >HP200LX using WWW/LX. Has anyone done this? If so can they tell me what >they used for a setup. Otherwise, Avi, can you give me a suggestion of >how to start with it? If you are looking for information that is specific about your cellphone, I am not the right person. I know nothing about the cell phone. Our product has no knowledge of any specific cell phones, or modems. I am assuming the phone acts like a "phone line". In this case you probably still need to connect the "phone line" to a modem. That modem must know how to talk to cell phones (they call it "cell-ready"). I don't know if this is your arrangement or not. If it is, then you set - connect and go - consider the phone as if it was a plug on the wall. You will get much slower response time from the cellular data. If your phone already contains a modem and it is ready to receive data calls and traffic, you need to check what is the initialization is for that modem - this is available from the phone (and modem) manufacturer. Once you secured all this info and set it up, it is no more complex than using a land line - which I know you have been at for a loooong time ... (Bob is a D&A and WWW/LX customer since forever ...) >Also, I just got a Quick Link scanner. Don't have it working with my >laptop yet, but want to be able to use it with my HP200LX. Has anyone >done this? Sorry, I am not sure I even know what this is... You mean like a scanner for documents or for radio frequencies? Regards, Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 00:47:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Dauphin Mini KB Availability >As a take-along travelling kb, the >Dauphin is quite nice, although I have wished for a long >time now that the had "grown" the kb by one key-width and >put the Toshiba-style right side Home,PageUp,PageDn,End keys >there. Message-Id: <20010131054731.HZW24084.mtiwmhc24.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.154.16¨> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 05:47:41 +0000 There were a couple for sale in San Luis Obispo also, at a small liquidator shop, but I think they've run out (didn't see any the last time I went). I had bought one for a list member for $15. They were very nice and light, although for all the trouble of bringing along the LX and a keyboard, I think I'd just pop the flash card and bring my Omnibook 530 (running CPACK) along. Excellent keyboard (with the aforementioned keys on the right side) and a larger screen for my bad eyes. And the travel and feel of the keys is much better than on the Dauphin ... but then, this is the cousin to the LX . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 06:50:27 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- > Hi > > Some times ago some guy reported luckily, that he has > gained the lotus-123 from some net-point. Then I tried > the mentioned address, but without success. > By studying the ng for 123 I found exciting features, > which let araise once more my desire for gaining those > discettes, to install lotus-123 on my PC. > Who has a hint? I got them officially through the Lotus outlet in Munich after showing evidence, that I bought a HP200LX. I had to "promise" not to use 1-2-3 on the HPLX and on the desktop simultaneously :) HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 12:08:10 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights Longden Loo writes: > Some of you who carry a flashlight with the LX (usually a mini-maglight) > might be interested in one of these instead: > > http://theledlight.com/palights.html I carry a maglightwith my palmtop - not for lighting the screen, but to hold spare batteries in case of an emergency where my NIMH batteries run down... So I have a torch if I need one in a pinch. -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:58:08 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, okay, I got several responses to my question, so there are defenitely some people one this list who are interested in this device which allows to attach a parallel ZIP drive to the palmtop's serial port. I spoke with the person who has developed a part of it. Unfortunately, he said that he cannot provide details because the rights for this invention is owned by another former vendor of the company he worked for. The members of the company got in trouble and they splitted up. So he doesn't have any connections anymore to the person who owns the rights. He gave me a few hints: He uses a microprocessor on a circuit board with an EPROM that holds the needed software for the SCSI protocol that goes over the parallel port of the ZIP. The processor has an RS232 serial interface and a parallel interface. He uses a special driver on the LX to code the OS's requests, and he uses the status lines of the RS232 port to send/receive data, not the TX/RX lines, because the other lines are more flexibly programmable. The software uses the microprocessor (a mp rated at 10 MHz was too slow for that!) to convert the serial data into the correct SCSI data over the parallel interface. That's what I know. If I ever get more information, I'll definitely let you all know! GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 04:50:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Omnibook 430 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden - I retired my OB-430 a few years ago after I loaned it to a friend for an overseas assignment and he somehow managed to "upgrade" the OS to DOS 6.2. I have tried to restore the unit to DOS 5 and get Windows functioning again but w/o success. Also, the keys stick badly. I'd love to get the unit back to its original configuration. Do you know where I might send it for a good cleaning and restore? Thanks. Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 07:01:51 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: connecting ZIP drive to serial (!) port of the LX In-Reply-To: from "Daniel Hertrich" at Jan 31, 2001 08:58:08 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I spoke with the person who has developed a part of it. > Unfortunately, he said that he cannot provide details because the > rights for this invention is owned by another former vendor of the > company he worked for. The members of the company got in trouble and > they splitted up. So he doesn't have any connections anymore to the > person who owns the rights. Rather than ask for the rights for free, do you suppose the current owner would entertain a per-unit royalty fee? -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:08:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Klaus Reinhardt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaus Reinhardt" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:44 PM Subject: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- > Hi > > Some times ago some guy reported luckily, that he has > gained the lotus-123 from some net-point. Then I tried > the mentioned address, but without success. > By studying the ng for 123 I found exciting features, > which let araise once more my desire for gaining those > discettes, to install lotus-123 on my PC. > Who has a hint? > > K@Rdt > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:09:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Klaus Reinhardt oops.. forgot this. http://www.abandonkeep.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaus Reinhardt" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:44 PM Subject: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- > Hi > > Some times ago some guy reported luckily, that he has > gained the lotus-123 from some net-point. Then I tried > the mentioned address, but without success. > By studying the ng for 123 I found exciting features, > which let araise once more my desire for gaining those > discettes, to install lotus-123 on my PC. > Who has a hint? > > K@Rdt > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:30:32 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Padin wrote: > > http://www.abandonkeep.com/ ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi Many Thanks!!! A very interesting site for me. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 11:01:23 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Some times ago some guy reported luckily, that he has > gained the lotus-123 from some net-point. Then I tried > the mentioned address, but without success. > By studying the ng for 123 I found exciting features, > which let araise once more my desire for gaining those > discettes, to install lotus-123 on my PC. > Who has a hint? I have a zip file of the installed Lotus 2.2 and I think maybe even 2.4, the one on the 200lx. I bought these years ago. Somebody on the list remind me. Aren't the old versions of Lotus now distributable? I think I remember someone saying on this list a few months ago that IBM has made them freeware. (IBM now owns Lotus 123). Anyway if someone will confirm this for me I'll be glad to send you this zip file. I do have the disks somewhere but I don't really know where and I don't think I want to part with those anyway. I still have Visicalc for the Radio Shack Model 2 on an 8" flopppy. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 09:24:53 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I have a zip file of the installed Lotus 2.2 and I think maybe > even 2.4, the one on the 200lx. I bought these years ago. The one on the 200LX is 2.3, which is almost identical to 2.4 except for the lack of packaged add-ons, and probably some minor fixes. Most reference manuals I've seen mention them as one. > Somebody on the list remind me. Aren't the old versions of > Lotus now distributable? I think I remember someone saying on > this list a few months ago that IBM has made them freeware. > (IBM now owns Lotus 123). I don't recall hearing this, but it would be interesting news if someone does confirm it (with a posted reference ... not hearsay). > I still have Visicalc for the Radio Shack Model 2 on an > 8" flopppy. :) Maybe sharing space with Wordstar? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 10:46:42 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Don Puscher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Puscher Subject: Re: Qualcomm 820 as an LX modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:50:21 -0500, Mike Schneider wrote: >Hoping someone can help me here... I have a Qualcomm 820 Cell phone, and just >bought a data cable so that I could use the 820 as a modem. When I go to connect >using Post/LX it gives me a "modem not ready" error. Has anyone seen this before >and know what to do? Mike, Make sure the baud rate on your phone matches your Post/LX settings. I think you can check it from menu>Features>Data>Baud Rate or something like that. Also, make sure you have a fully charged battery or are plugged in. Don ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:34:50 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > .. this list a few months ago that IBM has made them freeware. > (IBM now owns Lotus 123). > > Anyway if someone will confirm this for me I'll be glad to send > you this zip file. ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi Thank you .. I got it. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:24:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Re: Fluff: New PC-on-a-chip Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Feldman, Robert wrote: > Maybe not fluff, but not entirely on topic. > > Thought people might be interested in the following: > http://www.zflinux.com/machz.html, a low-power 586 PC on a chip, runs Linux. > Might be useable in a new palmtop. > this was the chip im using for prototype Processor Card =) PCMCIA of course ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:54:59 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Mittell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Mittell Subject: Re: Fluff Re: Small Equation Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200101302334.SAA17493@spdmraac.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed It was a joke, Vic. Sorry, I didn't mean for the question to be taken seriously. Larry Mittell At 03:34 PM 1/30/01, Vic Roberts wrote: > > > > >>Anyone here know what an analog computer is? Slide rules? Rotary > > calculators? Brontosauri?<< > >Certainly a slide rule is a form of analog computer. But the >term "analog computer" most often applied to analog electronic >circuits, usually vacuum tube based, that were used to solve >differential and integral equations. Instead of "numerical >integration" as is done with todays digital computers, you >would create integrators and differentiators using the analog >circuit elements, connect them together with the appropriate >scale factors to represent your equation and set them running >to provide the answer. Since they were not digital, there was >no programming language. To change integration time >constants, for example, You changed the resistor or capacitor >values. In later years, after digital computers were >introduced, there were analog computers which were controlled >by digital computers. That is, the digital computers set the >various scale factors and integration time constants, but >analog circuits solved the equations. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 15:21:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > The one on the 200LX is 2.3, which is almost identical to 2.4 except for > the lack of packaged add-ons, and probably some minor fixes. Most > reference manuals I've seen mention them as one. My 200lx has version 2.4 of 123...... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 21:25:53 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Solar H-alpha image and LxPic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, > > it is possible to download from http://solar.spacew.com/sunnow/ the > > current hydrogen-alpha solar image(~315kB) to the palmtop.This image > > is updated every minute and gives a good impression of the "life" of > > our star.The picture format is *.mpg. > > Tried it. The image I get is in JPEG (.jpg) format. LXPIC by > Stephan Peichl will display it on the palmtop. The image does > not render too well on the palmtop. LxPic has great many options to customize the appearance of pictures on the HPLX LCD screen until it is acceptable. Try finding the correct set of settings once and note them on paper from ileinfo screen. Then later on you can feed these settings to LxPic as command line arguments, say in a batch file and enjoy an OK rendering of the sun immediately. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 21:25:53 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Fluff: Re: Analog, digital and hybrid computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, > values. In later years, after digital computers were > introduced, there were analog computers which were controlled > by digital computers. That is, the digital computers set the > various scale factors and integration time constants, but > analog circuits solved the equations. The latter were called hybrid computers and were most popular in the early 70's for use as ballistic calculators in main battle tanks. Analog computers could be based on hydraulic or pneumatic elements as well, not only lamps. The whole idea was dropped due to inferior precision compared to digital technology, the consti- tuents would be required to be precise to 0.00001 to compete with digital tech, impossible if not for technology, than for economics. But, analog computers may very well return soon with glory. Many experts feel, when using nano-technology it is a better idea to produce tiny electron tubes inside silicon rather than transistors. Also it is assumed extremely complex analog systems (like human brain) can show both analog and digital behaviour, thus suitable for both application. Also no AI without analog. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:37:54 -0800 Reply-To: Katz@halcyon.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Katz Subject: Subject: Idea, was Re: Best of both worlds ... Idea: If the color Palm screen is so good, would it be possible to replace the 200LX screen with a color Palm running some kind of program? I.e., the Palm emulates an HP screen (via software) to the LX. Might be a little clunky, and a little expensive, but you would have a full LX with an LX keyboard and a Palm color screen (though you may not be able to use the color). Alan (Katz@halcyon.com) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:38:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << > The one on the 200LX is 2.3, which is almost identical to 2.4 except for > the lack of packaged add-ons, and probably some minor fixes. Most > reference manuals I've seen mention them as one. My 200lx has version 2.4 of 123...... >> I stand corrected. 2.4 it is (per the manual). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:05:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Led Lights!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.emprep.com/LED-flashlight.html http://www.securityworld.com/lighting/PALight.html http://www.theledlight.com/ledbulbs.html http://www.uwgb.edu/nevermab/led.htm http://ledmuseum.home.att.net/zone.htm Enjoy! Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 17:53:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: Qualcomm 820 as an LX modem Comments: To: zaaap@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After poking around for a couple days, here's where I think this modem cell phone thing is going... The Qualcomm 820 is not a CDMA modem phone. So just plugging the phone into the serial port won't do diddley. I could buy a Qualcom 860 or a Startac, both of which are CDMA modem phones, and have CDMA service turned on by Verizon, extra bux no doubt.... Hmmmm are there any other options? Well I have a Simple Technology PCMCIA modem which claims is cellular compatible. So how do I get from the Qualcomm 820 to the cellular modem? The 820 is an older phone so cables are no longer available. Hmmmm Maybe if I had a pinout I could cut up the data cable from the Qualcomm, and cut-up the cable that came with with modem. Does anyone know where to get pinouts? I've searched altavista, to no avail. Or I could go to ebay and try to buy a "Data on the go" modem card with cable for the 820 but since most modems are power hogs, there's a good chance the "data on the go modem" won't work with the LX. That's all the ideas I have. Will someone tell me I am missing something painfully obvious that will solve all my problems? Mike... P.S. How do you guys do it? zaaap@earthlink.net wrote: > Mike, > > I had a similar problem with my Startac... maybe it relates to your set > up. > > > Hoping someone can help me here... I have a Qualcomm 820 Cell phone, and just > > bought a data cable so that I could use the 820 as a modem. When I go to connect > > using Post/LX it gives me a "modem not ready" error. Has anyone seen this before > > and know what to do? > > First of all, are you using a null modem between the 200lx's serial > cable and the phone's dat cable? If not, you need one. If you are > using a null modem, make sure its NOT the one sold by Radio Shack. I > fought with my configuration for nearly a week before finding out the > problem was the RS null modem. (because it adds a connection between > pins 1 and 4 for some reason) > > I ended up building my own... its fairly simple if you are somewhat > handy with a soldering iron. If you'd like the instructions for > building one let me know. > > Marcus > > zaaap@earthlink.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:08:11 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TheOpr@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kat Deutscher Subject: Compuserve on the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have not been able to locate DOSCIM software. It was not on the CS2000 CD I received from Compuserve. I tried http://www.compuserve.com/trycsrv/cs2000/download1.asp without success. Can someone point me to the file and the exact filename I need to access Compuserve on my palmtop? I can access my CIS email using POST/LX, but would like to be able to participate in the forums. Will DOSCIM allow me to access forums? TIA Kat ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 07:24:44 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Subject: Idea, was Re: Best of both worlds ... Comments: To: Alan Katz In-Reply-To: <200101312037.MAA21443@king.halcyon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Alan Katz wrote: > If the color Palm screen is so good, would it be possible to replace > the 200LX screen with a color Palm running some kind of program? All Palms feature a 160x160 screen. That's _way_ too much horizontal and vertical scrolling for my taste. -- Adrian Ho lexfiend@crosswinds.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 21:20:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: TheOpr@AOL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I have not been able to locate DOSCIM software Which sort of Compuserve account do you have? A "Classic" account is = identified by an account number (like 73561,1006 for me) as well as an alphabetical = name (like S_Carder for me). The E-mail address for a Classic account has the @compuserve.com domain. A Compuserve2000 has only the alphabetical name = and no account number. A CS2000 account has a domain name like @csi.com or = something similar. I don't think you can access a Compuserve 2000 account from a HP 200LX. I use Compuserve Forums daily via my Classic account. I could E-mail you = a copy of DOS CIM that works on my palmtop. It takes up about 1 Meg of = disk space and is a bit sluggish, however. I don't use it much at all. I = normally use a program designed specifically for the 200LX called acCIS 4.0 from The www.rundel-d.com site. The author visits the Compuserve Palmtop = forum regularly, so it is easy to ask him questions. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:40:32 -0600 Reply-To: palmtop@n-link.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Want "X-Copy Plus" in Windows.... (HPLX Back-up related, but "goes astray" from there). In-Reply-To: <200102010220.VAA04232@spdmraac.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not Fluff, because I back-up my LX on a Windows-ME machine...... Heck, I'd like to drag-and-drop my LX back up file-set........ I'd like to find a program that would let me drag and drop these files into common (new directories) and let me have "x-copy -like control" over what gets overwritten. This would let me control OTHER documents/photos too; hence the fact that this is on the edge of "fluff"..... I'll admit this is 50% LX and 50% Win-ME. I'm looking for a utility that will let me manage all my back-ups and versions of files.... dragging a whole directory over another, similar one and being GIVEN the option to let only newer (modified) files overwrite the old ones, or be prompted for decisions AND be allowed to rename things along the way, if necessary. And, it would be cool, if I could pause and compare two disparate files, w/ the same name, and be allowed to compare them in real time and decide to rename one, or overwrite another.....OR even back up one and copy the remaining one....... Do such utilities exist for Windows ME and 98? TIA, --tim PS. You see how this applies to 200LX apps. AND to Win98, etc., long filenames, etc., right? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:18:36 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Qualcomm 820 as an LX modem Comments: To: Don Puscher In-Reply-To: <200101311746.KAA17213@swiftly.qualcomm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Don, At 1/31/01 -0700, you wrote: >Make sure the baud rate on your phone matches your Post/LX settings. I >think you can check it from menu>Features>Data>Baud Rate or something like >that. not in the Post/LX I know about (D&A's)... The settings for the baud a relevant to the connection with the ISP, not to email. Therefore, the program involved is WWW.EXE, the TCP/IP engine which also establishes connections with modem, and sends to the modem the initialization and dialing sequences. The file containing the configuration for WWW.EXE is unsurprisingly WWW.CFG (the author is Swiss, and symmetry is highly prized in that country! ) To setup WWW.CFG, shut down Post/LX and WWW.EXE (quit from POST/LX, and then EXIT just to make sure...) Then run WWWSETUP, select the SETUP button, and then select the ISP connection in question. (It is called also "SETUP"). Press Enter to edit, and go for it... TIP TIME!!!! In Post/LX (yes, in the email program) you can press CTRL-F5 to see the pertinent parameters that are currently in force from WWW/LX - things like the WWW.CFG name of the SETUP, the dialing sequence to be sent to the modem when you next go online, the initialization string to be sent to the modem (it is sent first, then dialing! Hmmm... I'll mention this to Andreas...), the script to be used, the login id, the port, and the baud rate. Very important info to debug problems... Enjoy... >Also, make sure you have a fully charged battery or are plugged in. Always a good idea. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 03:01:02 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden, FYI, you might want to try a lithium 9v in your PAL Gold light. Radio Shack has one called a ultralife that is used mostly in smoke detectors. It's $6.99. I used to use them in my Zoom 14.4 pocket modem. Lasted at least 3 times longer than Alk. 9v. =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 19:00:20 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: TheOpr@AOL.COM In-Reply-To: <93.64f2406.27a9f4db@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Kat, At 1/31/01 -0500, you wrote: >I have not been able to locate DOSCIM software. It was not on the CS2000 CD >I received from Compuserve. I tried >http://www.compuserve.com/trycsrv/cs2000/download1.asp without >success. Can someone point me to the file and the exact filename I need >to access >Compuserve on my palmtop? Try this: http://go.compuserve.com/SoftwareSupport?AREA=File&SEC=6 You will stop along the way at the login screen since this is a "members only" section. Use your classic CIS numeric id and password... There are two versions: 1.36 and 2.2.3. The former is smaller and bit nimbler. Its main difference from 2.2.3 is that can only access 13 sections on Compuserve Forums while 2.2.3 can do more. In terms of email I never found ANY difference. Both packages are limited to getting the email that is sent to your numeric id and your alpha id, but not the POP3 email. >I can access my CIS email using POST/LX, but would like to be able to >participate in the forums. Will DOSCIM allow me to access forums? Yes, if they have not converted to Web access only forum. You may as well go for 2.2.3 because of the section limitations in 1.36. Get a magnifying glass! - they use 80 char screen, and you'll have to fight to customize your screen colors (never got it good enough to see it well...) or just start the program as cim -lcd (I think this is the correct way to tell it you use an LCD screen with just 4 colors.) Let me know if you get stuck. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 23:21:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eric Greenspoon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Greenspoon Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010131184427.02be4ec0@mail.alwaysafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Avi, Steve has also questioned this, I am very curious. Do you know if you can access Compuserve with the 200LX if you have strictly a Compuserve 2000 account? I was told by Compuserve that you can't. Do you know something secret? -Eric ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml
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From: HPLX Mailing List=20 Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Ken=20 London
Sent: 11 January 2001 11:35
To:=20 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: 200lx=20 repairs

Sotiros wrote:=20
>He is = bull headed=20 and only wants the 200lx.=20

Smart = Kid!!!!!!!!!!=20

>Please help my son and I = come to a=20 decision.=20

Whether to repair or = upgrade? =20 Repair...the upgrade would be useless unless the unit is=20 repaired.=20

By the way...he wouldn't = happen to have=20 the hp support pack still in effect would = he?

P.=20 S The backlighting is DOA from what I understand.
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