========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 23:34:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: FS: Thinfax 1414LXM Comments: To: Fryday In-Reply-To: <003501bfcb65$22815560$a5e103d1@mybaby> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Due to a recent memory upgrade, I am parting with the above referenced >> modem/memory card made for the HPLX. It is a combination 4MB flash and >> 14.4K modem card (along with Rom software). It originally sold for around >> $300. I'll sell it for $85.00 (obo) in it's original box. > > Please allow $5.00 for shipping... E-mail me if your interested... > >I also have one with 2MB that I'd sell for 55$ obo. And I have one with 8MB RAM that I would like $120 (obo) for (make me an offer I can't refuse....) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 20:54:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , dmp24@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David M Peterson Subject: Re: Various pda types Comments: To: GJColeman@CSI.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I carry a pad of Post-It notes. I write on the note and just stick it to the top of the 200lx. I enter the stack when I have the time. David Peterson PS - I found the CF to PCMCIA adapter I was looking for. Office Depot in Salem Oregon! The following did not carry what I needed and did not have a clue what I was asking for: Office Max, Fred Meyer, Wal-mart, Staples. Thaddius offerred the adapter with the purchase of a CF, but did not list it seperately. Web searches gave me no hits unless I made the searches very generic. Thanks for the help! On Wed, 31 May 2000 13:48:08 -0400 George Coleman writes: > > I have a Palm that I carry when I don't really expect to need > > much but want something just in case. It weighs practically > > nothing. I hardly notice it's there. > > I have found that when I need something "just in case," > paper-and-pencil works well. It even works as a calculator! > And it is easy to sync with my LX! >... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 04:08:50 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Russel Brooks wrote: > Instead of subscribing to the digest I suggest you subscribe to the > normal list and use filters in WWW/LX to route the HPLX-L mail to a > separate folder. This is the Best way to handle the list when using an > LX and WWW/LX. I may have to change my recommendation; that ExplodeDigest option sounds easier to set up than the filters and provides the same results. The only disadvantage is you have to wait until the whole digest is ready to be sent before you can receive anything. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:32:25 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: FFDB 2.0 Comments: To: Brian McIlvaine , Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, this new version is fantastic, I really apreciate the speed (search and edit), the infoselect compatibility, the wrap when you zoom, the export fonction. question, Why th 600 notes limitation? inprouvement: *position the cursor after the date stamp on a new notes *warning when using esc after adding a new note (the note is note saved) *easy way to add a category (acces to a list of word) *template *export to a database bugs: export do not replace the existant file. Thanx for this great new version Alain Al Wyn@comcen.com.au Sydney / Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 01:11:10 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: The Commodore C64's Floppy disk drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a Tandy PDD2 drive and, somewhere, a DOS driver for it. I once thought of pulling it out, but it is only 100k per side. Hmmm. Dennis << What you might want to find is the disk drive made for the Radio Shack / Tandy model 100. >> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 01:55:34 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: DOS problems Comments: cc: SuperJew@COLLEGECLUB.COM >*grumble grumble* >I keep getting this odd error. I downloaded a copy of QBasic (my >fav programming language :-P) that I was told runs well on the >200LX. Unfortunately, it gave me this error: "Can't execute >C:\QBASIC.EXE" Is this an extended memory error or what? I get it >with a few other programs and thought it might be wrong versions or >something but I KNOW Qbasic should run... I love QBasic... I >appreciate your help and not abusing the newbie :-) Message-Id: <20000601055533.IQMY1339.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.227.247¨> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 05:55:39 +0000 The "can't execute ..." msg is typical of trying to run a program that needs more memory than currently available in DOS. Run MEM after the failure to see how much memory is available. There are several ways of running a large program on the 200LX, and the most reliable (tho not most convenient) is to exit the Application Manager (the icon screen .. Menu/Application/Terminate) out to raw DOS. Other strategies involve reducing the number of TSRs loaded during boot,and using Setup to assign more memory to DOS, or to execute the program from Filer. Lastly, the usual preferred method is to use MaxDOS from the SUPER site (assuming it still works), or Software Carousel. If I missed any, I'm sure someone can chime in ... but you should probably take the simplest solution first and see if that's your problem. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 02:12:49 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: Re: FS: Quicken 4 for Windows Comments: To: lists+hplx@hisword.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom-- I want it. Pls reserve for me & let me know how to pay you. Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 02:32:56 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: Re: How to get a free copy of ACT! for HP Palmtops Comments: To: MichStocker@cs.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks. Nice thought & useful. Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 23:35:40 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Act - new contacts help Comments: To: katd@freewwweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fn-INS Kat Deutscher wrote: > > I have one contact item filled in in ACT, but don't see how > to add another person. > > What should I be looking for? > > TIA > Kat > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- Patrick West pgp 2.6.2 key fingerprint = 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 00:31:04 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Gilles Kohl's FCL font compiler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, Where does one find a copy of "Gilles Kohl's FCL font compiler"? -- Patrick West pgp 2.6.2 key fingerprint = 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:44:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Nokia 8210 connects at 14400 baud! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan, > I am able to get a connection speed of 14400 baud with my Nokia > 8210 mobile phone. All I do is to use the following init string: > > ModemInit=AT&F+CBST=14,0,1 > > WWW/LX reports "connect 14400". I'm not sure, if it works with > every GSM provider, but it works with the german provider VIAG. > > I guess all other new Nokia phones should accept the command. > You can try IR.EXE from D&A to see, if your mobile supports > the CBST command. Even though you mentioned it would work only with the new phones I tried it with my 8810. Connection worked - at 9600 baud as before :-( HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:37:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: Re: boot/partition magic.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" F. Kaufman wrote: > The second YES is more remote in my memory. But I was able to create a > "second c:" drive which was hidden from the OTHER SYSTEM. This was my > dos 5/desqview setup. It has a boot manager (or did, Boot magic, > now???) which allowed it to boot to either dos5 or win95 (with a default > choice after a countdown period). Again, I don't recall what or how but > the manual explained with scenarios how to do what to create a dual > boot, two separate operating system setup. I have used Partition Magic versions 2 and 3, and have seen version 4. Versions 2 and 3 had Boot Manager and 3(?) and 4 have Boot Magic. I have a dual boot OS/2 and Win98 at home, an older 2 x OS/2, Win98, and DOS 6.22/Win 3.11 as well. At work I have OS/2 and Win 95. DOS and Windows need to be in a primary partion on the first disk. When these boot any other primary partions on the first disk are marked hidden. OS/2 and Linux can be installed in either primary or extended partitions, on either the first disk or on another disk. Thus they can be set up to have another OS visable at all times. The only "gotchas" I saw were Partition Magic's wanting to convert FAT16 to FAT32 by default. Yuck. And some inconsistancies when it was run under different operating systems (which wasn't its fault, but...). Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:35:42 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Wally Jordaan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Wally Jordaan Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal on DS 200LX Comments: To: MichStocker@CS.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael, I have been using Borland Turbo Pascal Version 7 with no problems. There = are 2 executables in version 7, the one to use on the LX is Turbo.exe. The other one, namely TPX.exe, is for Windows protected mode only. Regards Wally Jordaan EDM: Enterprise Desktop Management Telephone: (021) 414-8002 Cell: 082 771-8460 Email: jordaaw1@telkom.co.za >>> MichStocker@CS.COM 2000-06-01 2:01:03 AM >>> What versions, if any, of Turbo Pascal work well on a DS 200LX? Thanks. Michael ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml=20 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:53:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: NU for Dos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>AFAIK it cannot be installed on a non-Win drive. I don't suppose >>Symantec still have NU for DOS? I kept buying Norton Utilities for Dos right up to the last one I was aware of. There may have been later ones that I didn't get. But NU in the latest one I've used couldn't handle a drive as large as today's smaller drives. I don't know when it became useless. Probably beyond 512 meg. I went from 240 meg to 3.2 gig and NU refused to run on the 3.2 gig disk. I just checked the copy of my old UTIL directory from my old dos computer on my desktop which I keep for use on the palmtop and the latest version of NU I have there is 4.5. I know I had version 5 and probably later. But if it's wanted for a palmtop I have that covered. I don't know that I've actually used it on the palmtop but I probably have. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:06:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Probably worthless hard drives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>The family I am staying with recently had this happen: the hard drive on one of my friends' family's computers accumulated massive errors and is probably worthless. That leaves them with a dead computer.<<<<< If you haven't tried reformatting the drive and reinstalling everything from scratch, I wouldnt give up on the drive. There's a fair chance that a software problem corrupted it. When I was programming full time that happened to me 2 - 4 times a year. Sometmes more. Now that I don't do that much programming it still sometimes happens. The time before last that that happened was when I installed a game (Master of Orien II). It pretty much scrambled my hard drive. I called the publisher and they said that was a known problem with certain disk controllers. Thanks a lot. The last time it happened was when I installed the freeware windows Forth called TP Forth. In both cases the hard drive I installed it on contained far more scrambled files and directories than good ones. Reformatting and reinstalling fixed it just fine. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:19:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: State of the art speech recognition MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>I think I'm with you on this one. I remember the Scientific American article that suggested that the `net big form-factor revolution would involve speech recognition'. It was an article about using computers to recognize speech to automate phone dialing. It was published, IIRC, more than 40 years ago. Touch-tone phones came along instead...<<<<<< I saw a demo on "Big Thinkers" on ZDTV of what MIT considers to be the state of the art in speech recognition. They had MIT's head of research (or some such title) there with a link via mike and speaker to his setup back at MIT. He explained that it was about 96% accurate and they expected to reach 98% accuraccy soon. The other 2% isn't errors. It fails to understand and asks the human to repeat. Not too shabby. They had a small panel of ZDTV people there who each asked a few questions such as weather reports for certain cities, etc. with 100% success. In fact, one person asked for a weather report for his city and got it and the next person said "What about yesterday's weather?" and got yesterday's weather for the same city. It works. :) The problem is that this was being run by a supercomputer of some sort. But the guy said that when PC's get to about 1.5 or 2 gigahertz they'll be able to do the same thing. That's probably not far off. 2 gigahertz PDA's may be a little farther off. By the way, this was 2 way conversation and the speaker could be fairly free with phrasing as long as he was reasonably accurate. Barry (who wants one :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:23:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Turbo Pascal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>What versions, if any, of Turbo Pascal work well on a DS 200LX?<< I downloaded and I think I tried TP 5.5 that is freely downloadable at community.borland.com/museum. They have 3 versions there and I downloaded them all and I'm fairly sure 5.5 was the one I tried out. It was the latest version. It seemed to work just fine. I don't really know Pascal. I've only patched a few Pascal programs. So I didn't really know how to give it a hard test. But other Borland products of that same era work just fine on the 200lx. If you want to download there you have to sign up and get a password. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:31:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Qbasic on the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>I keep getting this odd error. I downloaded a copy of QBasic (my fav programming language :-P) that I was told runs well on the 200LX. Unfortunately, it gave me this error: "Can't execute C:\QBASIC.EXE" Is this an extended memory error or what? I get it with a few other programs and thought it might be wrong versions or something but I KNOW Qbasic should run... I love QBasic... I appreciate your help and not abusing the newbie<<<<<< I used to use Qbasic on my 200lx. I had version 1.1 which I think was the latest version. I used it for working out algorithms and learning techniques I didn't quite understand. It's a nice tool for that. Since then I've put Quick Basic 4.5 (latest version) on my 200lx and removed Qbasic. This is because QuickBasic has a compiler (which I've only used once). It also works just fine. I wonder if you tried to run it from the App manager. I think I remember that it has to have more than the minimum amount of memory but if you give it enough it'll run from App manager. But since I always used it directly from Dos I don't know if I remember that right. I've never let my 200lx boot into App manager. I usually just use it as a dos computer. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:30:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" Subject: Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)? Comments: To: "ahzilly@cs.com" Tony Wrote: >Tim, put >ExplodeDigest=1 >in your HPLX-L email box section in POST/LX and the digest is >automatically exploded into mesasages as it is downloaded! Hi Tony, All, I recently added that, under the Ýmail¨ section in my .cfg file and waited for a digest to arrive in the mail. Have downloaded several and it doesn't work. I've double checked it, I used the same spelling, caps, no spaces, etc. I've got Post/LX 2.2f. Is there anything I could have corrupted, a line I missed somewhere else that could make this NOT work? Andreas mentioned turning on the full header feature and ensuring that, somewhere in there it says, "Content-Type: digest/. . ." and that's NOT in there. Could I have my LISTSERV set for "text only" or could CompuServe be stripping part of the header? I've had my mailbox set (and reset, by tech-support) to the "old style" or traditional CIS, because, my short dabble with CIS 2000 wasn't very satisfying and I couldn't seem to find a way to retrieve mail w/ my palmtop, under the new system. Still scratching my head in TX. Thanks again for all the help! --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:35:49 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: DOS problems Comments: To: Jewvenile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:31:03 -0400 (EDT) 11h42m01s ago ... On Wed, 31 May 2000, Jewvenile wrote: > I keep getting this odd error. I downloaded a copy of QBasic (my fav > programming language :-P) that I was told runs well on the 200LX. > Unfortunately, it gave me this error: "Can't execute C:\QBASIC.EXE" How are you trying to start QB? If it's in a DOS session under System Manager (e.g. from an icon in the AppMgr screen) you only get a small amount of memory defined in Setup (default=3D96K). For large DOS progs try opening AppMgr, then doing Menu-Application-Terminate All, or better, using a utility called MaxDOS available on the SUPER site. HTH Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:46:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Gilles Kohl's FCL font compiler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:48:19 -0400 (EDT) 07h13m05s ago ... On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Patrick West wrote: > Where does one find a copy of "Gilles Kohl's FCL font > compiler"? http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gilles Look for the "VR and FCL" link Peniel --------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:31:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: boot to DOS; sleep mode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I have a couple of newbie questions--I'm about to acquire a 100LX. Is it possible, by writing config.sys and autoexec.bat files, to make the 100LX boot directly into DOS without going through the manager? Is there a sleep mode so that you can suspend work by turning the machine off, then turning it on and going directly back to it, or must it be rebooted each time like most DOS computers? I'm asking these questions because I am interested in a computer that can start up and work on a moment's notice, without waiting for all sorts of housekeeping chores to take place first. Thanks for any thoughts you have to offer! Mark Shields /\_/\ ( o o ) ==¬== beamsplitter@juno.com www.stmattpitt.org ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:47:51 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: boot to DOS; sleep mode Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:31:13 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: > Is there a sleep mode so that you can suspend work > by turning the machine off, then turning it on and > going directly back to it, or must it be rebooted each > time like most DOS computers? It works that way from the factory. The ON/OFF button gives 'instant satisfaction' . Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:47:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: OT TECH HELP: MYSQL? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does anyone know about mysql? Here's my question: I know the path to mysqladmin is: /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqladmin And I know that I have to use -u username -ppassword to log-in. Is this the correct syntax to create a database?: /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqladmin create database_name -u jeffj -ppassword I keep getting error messages and can't seem to make the mysqladmin work. I can, however, log into sql (not mysqladmin) by typing the following at the shell prompt: /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql -u jeffj -ppassword Can anyone give me some pointers or suggestions about using mysqladmin? Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 23:49:13 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jorgen@PALMTOP.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: CHESS ON OUR PALMTOP. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! Has anyone figured out why ChessMaster 2000 always will hang the palmtop after a while? It's deffinately the best chess program to run on the 200LX. Or is my copy corrupted??? Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:51:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: boot to DOS; sleep mode Comments: To: Mark Shields Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The 200LX (and I'm pretty sure the 100LX also), goes thru DOS first before starting the "manager" ... so you only have to remove the "100" or "200" reference at the end of the autoexec.bat in order to boot to DOS. All the LX's (95/100/200) normally turn on/off by "sleeping". Some people have forgotten the last time they've rebooted. Pressing the "on" key brings up your work exactly where you left it, the last time it was turned off. This is common to most PDAs now (tho not to DOS computers, except maybe the Omnibooks). - Longden Mark Shields on 06/01/2000 08:31:13 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Mark Shields To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: boot to DOS; sleep mode I have a couple of newbie questions--I'm about to acquire a 100LX. Is it possible, by writing config.sys and autoexec.bat files, to make the 100LX boot directly into DOS without going through the manager? Is there a sleep mode so that you can suspend work by turning the machine off, then turning it on and going directly back to it, or must it be rebooted each time like most DOS computers? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:00:29 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: boot to DOS; sleep mode Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Shields wrote: > > Hi! > > I have a couple of newbie questions--I'm about to > acquire a 100LX. > > Is it possible, by writing config.sys and autoexec.bat > files, to make the 100LX boot directly into DOS without > going through the manager? > Yes, but you generally don't need it, as per the answer to your next question... > > Is there a sleep mode so that you can suspend work > by turning the machine off, then turning it on and > going directly back to it, or must it be rebooted each > time like most DOS computers? > No. One of the _great_ advantages of the 200 is that it pretty much `stays where it was' when you turn it off. One often doesn't `reboot' (in the conventional sense) for weeks or months > > I'm asking these questions because I am interested in > a computer that can start up and work on a moment's > notice, without waiting for all sorts of housekeeping > chores to take place first. > The so called `instant on' is one of the _definitive_ features of the 200, along with its long battery life, and DOS compatability. Your problem is `textbook 200' insofar as you have described it here. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:18:38 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)? Comments: To: LARRY FELDMAN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit LARRY FELDMAN wrote: > I've always hoped D&A would release a utility like this, as I'm sure they > could do a better job than I (I sometimes get an extra header per > message). To say I'm an amateur programmer is being kind :¬) They did put in the following... see http://www.dasoft.com/WWW/newfeat.htm scroll to the following... POST.EXE version 2.2f Updated February 12, 2000 Here are some of the new features and fixes: Ý...¨ ExplodeDigest=1 in a box section of POST.CFG makes digests encoded as MIME-type multipart/digest to be split into individual messages during download. Enjoy! Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:18:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)? Comments: To: LARRY FELDMAN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit LARRY FELDMAN wrote: > Hi Tony, > > Yes - I tried the ExplodeDigest=1 command, but you really hit the nail on the > head with the "home brew" comment. Seems like mime compliant digests (which I > beleive this command requires), are becoming few, and far between. Seems like > the command only works on a few lists, and those I get in individual e-mails > (like HPLX-L)! Sorry to jump in. Since the home brewed digests abound, with many different kinds of separators, and some with none, how exactly should the program discren the end of one message from the start of another? I am not sure you know the answer, and neither did Andreas. This is really a hairy problem. One solution is to really analyze the pile of messages for some structure, but that means lots of time, lots of code and uncertain results. Does not seem to be a good way to go. If there are any ideas on how to do it, please - let's hear them... Amybe something clicks just right! :) Be aware that I still visit, but tend to read only once a week, so some of my responses are old. If you need to get to me, info@dasoft.com is a good email address... Thanks in advance. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com > > Tony Hutchins wrote: > > > > Larry, POST/LX will automatically explode the HPLX-L digest as it is > > downloaded if you put > > > > ExplodeDigest=1 > > > > > > > > Congrats on that PBasic prog! > > Thanks! Really passes the time on my 200! > > Larry > > > > > Tony > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ================================================== > ====== > LFeldman@USA.net > Listowner: Submini-L: The Subminiature Photography Mailing List > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:26:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: A different X-Finder question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I love the icon mode of X-Finder, and the fact that it serves as a powerful and intuitive GUI for the palmtop. One thing I find missing, however, is that the Trash icon does not toggle between empty/full to indicate the absence/presence of trashed items. I can imagine a brute force solution that might work, i.e. copy a FULL.ICN to TRASH .ICN whenever an item is trashed, and copy an EMPTY.ICN to TRASH.ICN when clearing items from the Trash directory. Can anyone think of a more elegant method? Bruce in Toronto (Oh, and if anyone has the Macintosh programming chops to write a Mac version of XFS, they would make a lot of people very happy.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:21:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Re: boot to DOS; sleep mode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all the replies I've gotten so far! This sounds great! However, it is a _100_LX I hope to get, not a 200. I hope to confirm that the 100LX also has sleep mode and can have its autoexec/config files modified to bypass the manager. Thanks! Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:21:58 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , xxxxx xxxxxxx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: xxxxx xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Point to ponder? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed First of all thanks to everybody for their massive response to my question:Internal upgrade or flash card? >Just something I've been pondering here lately. > >Would you all consider the 200LX effectively dead? I discovered the Hp 200lx about 5 months ago. I had seen somebody using a Palm Pilot and I got really curious about. I fired my laptop and I searched the Net for information on the Palm Pilot. I wanted one! I have been using an old Psion Organizer II which I bought in the 804s and I thought I needed something better. I ended up downloading a Palm Pilot emulator to see how it worked. I did not like. I felt it was as limited as my Psion Organizer II. I also read about the WinCe devices, which I didn't like because all of the reviews I found said they were slow and poorly designed. Fortunately, while looking for info on the Palm, I accidentally ended in a page about the Hp 200lx (I think it was David Sargeant's page). Before that I didn't even know it existed. I couldn't believe it! The Hp 200lx was a real computer, it had everything I wanted. It was DOS compatible (I like DOS), it could easily connect with other computers, it was upgradeable, you could read e-mail, you could surf the net, etc. I began to search for as much information as I could find on the Hp 200lx. It was then when I read that the Hp 200lx had been dropped by Hewlett Packard! I have recently bought a used 200lx and I am extremely happy with it. I am sure many people are buying Palms, Winces, etc. just because they do not know the Hp 200lx exists. There is such a a big difference between the 200lx and everything else! By the way market prices for used 200lx are higher than those of WinCe devices (With WinCe devices having 8Mb RAM standard). Used WinCe are worthless while the 200's price stays the same.Which one of them is dead technology!!! Iqigo Martinez de Azagra ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:29:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Post/Lx - Hplx maillist and repling to list only? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi I now recevie the Hplxmaillist as "normal" mail as before I used the newsserver. When I use Post/Lx to reply to a message can I send the reply to the list only? When I hit F3 I get both the Hplxmaillist adress and the one that sent the mail to the list.. I want to only reply to the list. What have I missed? I have scrolled through the helpfiles, but the "problem" is that in the From header of the mail from the list has both adresses in it? When I used the newsserver I did not have this problem so it is new to me.. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -Palmtop friendly sig... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 15:40:55 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: boot to DOS; sleep mode Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:42:59 -0400 (EDT) 21m38s ago ... On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Mark Shields wrote: > I hope to confirm that the 100LX also has sleep mode > and can have its autoexec/config files modified to > bypass the manager. Confirmed. There's very little difference between the 100 and 200. The 200 has Quicken and a couple of games, some cosmetic differences, and a newer PC card driver. You'll do fine with a 100LX. Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:01:58 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Wanted: a PCMCIA Type II Ethernet Adapter Comments: To: Multiple recipients of list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone has a spare adapter for sale/trade that will work in Win95? I could trade Type II modems, a 20MB card, and other stuff... Thanks! Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:05:11 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: NU for Dos In-Reply-To: <000901bfcbd0$ce555c40$82fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Barry wrote: > I kept buying Norton Utilities for Dos right up to the last one I was > aware of. There may have been later ones that I didn't get. But NU in > the latest one I've used couldn't handle a drive as large as today's > smaller drives. I don't know when it became useless. Probably beyond > 512 meg. NU up until at least version 8 contained DOS utilites. NU 8 was primarily a Windows 95 program, but most of the utilities (NDD, DISKEDIT, etc.) were still included for "emergency disk" use, where Win95 would obviously not be available. NU 7 was all DOS (or DOS+Win3.1?), I think, and might have been the last "real" DOS release (and the last one to include a lot of the smaller utilities as well as NDOS, the licenced version of JPSoft's 4DOS) I should still have NU7 somewhere... Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:06:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: OT TECH HELP: MYSQL? Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does the user you are trying to access mysql with have create authority (the root/superuser does, by default)? Since you can access mysql, that means the user-id you are using is defined, it just may not have tha ability to do what you want... Can you try the same command, but as root? HTH, Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff" To: Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:47 AM Subject: OT TECH HELP: MYSQL? > Does anyone know about mysql? Here's my question: > > I know the path to mysqladmin is: > > /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqladmin > > And I know that I have to use -u username -ppassword to log-in. Is this the > correct syntax to create a database?: > > /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqladmin create database_name -u jeffj -ppassword > > I keep getting error messages and can't seem to make the mysqladmin work. I > can, however, log into sql (not mysqladmin) by typing the following at the > shell prompt: > > /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql -u jeffj -ppassword > > Can anyone give me some pointers or suggestions about using mysqladmin? > > Jeff > > -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- > -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- > -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- > - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - > -- http://www.notachance.com -- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:11:22 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Point to ponder? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Would you all consider the 200LX effectively dead? Visited a local HP resaler yesterday. They sell HP equipment, but are mostly a surveying equipment company and the salesman there said the demand for the 200LX is still high (evident by the number of frustrated buyers they turn away). They used the 200LX themselves as part of a turnkey package for field use, and now offer a custom-built device (in place of the 200LX) at a higher cost but less user flexibility. He said the same crunch is being felt in the forest service and others dependent on the flexibility and durability of the LX. They (the resaler) scouted the palmtop market to gauge its direction, and in doing so were astounded by the high prices still commanded by used 200LX's and the number of websites devoted to it. Their reluctance to go with the WinCE/PocketPC (as a consumer item) owes to their opinion that the consumer market is too frivolous to support any of the current offerings for but a short time (compared to the long run by the 100/200LX). Perhaps as a development platform, it does have its limits, especially in todays connected multi-media world. But it's hard to characterize as "dead", something that fulfills the niche of information handling so much more capably than its flashier (or is that flash-in-the-pan) competition. - Longden (who still carries pen and paper, no matter what) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:37:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: GPS Cables for LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi - If anyone wants these I can make 'em for fairly sane numbers, want a Garmin for myself. Cable manufacture's been way delayed (My molding guy doesn't always listen to me, he's messed up somewhat, had to figure out answers. Arrgh.) Just about there. Hoping to cast on Saturday, a bunch of 18" modem and interlink/laplink cables. May have him sell them due to the usual "circumstances beyone our control". Can make some extra, short cable stubs and put the Garmin ends on those, will probably make 3 plus one for myself. Anyone interested, quickest if you post off-list, as I filter list messages into a folder and get to them when "spare" time presents itself. Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:40:06 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: OT TECH HELP: MYSQL? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:06:52 -0400, Ken Hansen wrote: > Can you try the same command, but as root? Thanks to EVERYONE that responded about my SQL question! As it turns out and you all suggested, I needed to be root to make the database :) I now have a nice, new, shiny sql database running alongside another... Spiffy! Thanks again one and all! Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:52:39 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ahzilly@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Post/Lx - Hplx maillist and repling to list only? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:50:28 +0100 (BST) 02h21m09s ago ... On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:29:19 -0400, Martin Bergvill wrote: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:49:11 +0100 (BST) 02h19m52s ago ... On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:29:19 -0400, Martin Bergvill wrote: > When I use Post/Lx to reply to a message can I send the reply to the > list only? When I hit F3 I get both the Hplxmaillist adress and the one > that sent the mail to the list.. I want to only reply to the list. Martin T will do what you want. T replies to the To: - lucky that has just the list name :) Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:06:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: Various pda types MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paper? Ech! shopper.cnet.com or shopping.altavista.com are GOOD places to find this sort of thing - "Compact" as a search term, sort by price, take a look. Problem's usually shipping & handling costs ($8 S&H for a CF adapter?) I've thought of just getting a case of some goodies like this and asking for my costs, not enough spare cash for that yet - Need to repair / upgrade and sell more 200LX's first, I guess Mark David M Peterson wrote: > I carry a pad of Post-It notes. I write on the note and just stick it to > the top of the 200lx. I enter the stack when I have the time. > > David Peterson > > PS - I found the CF to PCMCIA adapter I was looking for. Office Depot in > Salem Oregon! > > The following did not carry what I needed and did not have a clue what I > was asking for: > Office Max, Fred Meyer, Wal-mart, Staples. > > Thaddius offerred the adapter with the purchase of a CF, but did not list > it seperately. Web searches gave me no hits unless I made the searches > very generic. > > Thanks for the help! > > On Wed, 31 May 2000 13:48:08 -0400 George Coleman > writes: > > > I have a Palm that I carry when I don't really expect to need > > > much but want something just in case. It weighs practically > > > nothing. I hardly notice it's there. > > > > I have found that when I need something "just in case," > > paper-and-pencil works well. It even works as a calculator! > > And it is easy to sync with my LX! > >... -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:07:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: NU for Dos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NU 8 seems to handle 2.1Gb partitions at least, with calibrat, speedisk, etc.: CALIBRAT EXE 51,365 05-18-94 8:00a NDD EXE 224,041 05-18-94 8:00a NLIB200 RTL 200,650 05-18-94 8:00a SPEEDISK EXE 354,620 05-18-94 8:00a (a few files of the many in NU 8 here.) Runs fine on this machine, PM=ST51080A, PS=ST31220A, SM=some maxtor junk 4Gb drive, SS=NEC CDR-C251 4xr CD-R drive Though I say JUNK WRT the Maxtor drive advisedly (Maxtor thinks it's EIDE? Why's it so S L O W, then? Ack.) Haven't seen a copy lately, will look for more. Mark Barry wrote: > > >>AFAIK it cannot be installed on a non-Win drive. I don't suppose > >>Symantec still have NU for DOS? > > I kept buying Norton Utilities for Dos right up to the last one I > was aware of. There may have been later ones that I didn't get. > But NU in the latest one I've used couldn't handle a drive as large > as today's smaller drives. I don't know when it became useless. > Probably beyond 512 meg. > > I went from 240 meg to 3.2 gig and NU refused to run on the 3.2 gig > disk. > > I just checked the copy of my old UTIL directory from my old dos > computer on my desktop which I keep for use on the palmtop and the > latest version of NU I have there is 4.5. I know I had version 5 > and probably later. But if it's wanted for a palmtop I have that > covered. I don't know that I've actually used it on the palmtop but > I probably have. > > Barry -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:08:06 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: HP100LX as PDA functionality? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, all. Just sanity checking my latest ideas here I have a 2Mb 2x 200LX, will be upgrading it to 8Mb+ soon. What I need's 2-fold; I need a dedicated DOS machine, plus a dedicated PDA. Need the full 640k in Dos for the CAD work, source code and text editing and compiling and so on that I need to do under Dos. And I need more battery life than the PC110 I've been using gives me, definitely. I'd been figuring on finding a 1000cx, but those are too darn rare. Need to get this going soon. For just the basic Address Book, Appointment Book, To-Do type of PDA use, is there any significant difference between a DS 100LX and a DS 200LX in terms of bugs, speed, behavior, etc.? I'd like more clues. Mark -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 22:18:37 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Jornada 545 & 548 are Pocket PC's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit anyone has experience with Jornada 545 & 548s, which are smaller than the HP Jornada 680 & 690s, and supposed to be even smaller than our LX 100 & 200s? i don't mind Win CE with Word/Excel, but how about battery life? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:56:49 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Library issues Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Lastly, the usual preferred method is to use MaxDOS from the SUPER > site (assuming it still works), Might be time to visit that ol' library and download a copy of each program/file just for achival purposes as it seems it may be on the brink or at least, unmaintained??????? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 07:08:37 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: disk 1 busted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Help! I am now getting data read errors from my original HP connectivity pack disk #1 (apps.arj specifically). Could some kind soul email me thru my private email? I am getting the list thru digest form and am currently weeks behind. Thank you. Oliver Chua bud@mindgate.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:26:52 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Various pda types Comments: To: GJColeman@CSI.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > In fact, I predict the next big form-factor revolution will > involve speech recognition, and people will only speak into > their PDAs. If anyone thinks cell phone usage is getting > obnoxious, you ain't seen nothing yet. Yup, I can see the day now. Two people sitting in their cubicle, talking about their boss, while their "pda/communicator" is taking complete notes!!! (G) I keep hearing voice recognition and picture rows of cubicles with each person talking to their computer and getting it to type what their neighboring cubicle mate is saying instead. Or the office will sound almost like a church where there is this low murmur running throughout. I hope I'm retired by that time................. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:26:56 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: boot/partition magic.. Comments: To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I use NU for windows. One may use it, including NDD and Speed Disk, on > any partition (one at a time) accessible from the Windows C: drive. I > use it regularly. > AFAIK it cannot be installed on a non-Win drive. I don't suppose > Symantec still have NU for DOS? My other C:drive has DOS 6.22, with > chkdsk,scandisk and defrag. Actually, the version of NU I have, has DOS utilities - as a matter of fact some of the tools will ONLY work in dos - like the disk editor, I believe. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:15:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Jornada 545 & 548 are Pocket PC's Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Nathalie Bugeaud To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, June 01, 2000 4:35 PM Subject: Jornada 545 & 548 are Pocket PC's >anyone has experience with Jornada 545 & 548s, which are smaller than the HP >Jornada 680 & 690s, and supposed to be even smaller than our LX 100 & 200s? > >i don't mind Win CE with Word/Excel, but how about battery life? Ive been looking at these quite a lot lately... they are almost identical in size to a Palm IIIc... the Jornada 545/548 weighs 9.0oz with lid, 7.8oz without compared to 11oz for our beloved LX. Theres an XT emulator available for running old dos apps www.xt-ce.com and it comes with ALOT of apps including javascript/ssl web browser, excel, word, money, outlook (including full version of outlook 2000 or the desktop). It has a sharp color screen, etc... check out http://www.hp.com/jornada or the latest issue of Pocket PC magazine for info about them. Now to the bad... battery life on any color handheld will be low these days... we can send a man to the moon (decades ago) but can't make a decent battery. The HP is rated for 8hrs continuous use with a 2 week standby time once it powers down due to low power. At first this sounds like ALOT less than the HP with its seasonal battery life changes but I also use a Palm V with similar (albeit a little better) battery life... and ive found the rechargable battery works well with its shorter life... just drop it on the cradle every couple days or once a week depending on usage and your topped off and ready to go. I rarely even think about power in my palm V. And the worst... HP made a booboo They list the screen as supporting 65k colors, its in their literature, on the box, etc. etc. etc. and they announced a week or so ago that they were mistaken the screen can display 65k colors, but another piece of control hardware limits the screen to 4096 colors... this has alot of people ticked that HP lied to them. In reality... why does someone need 65k colors on a handheld? sure it won't show pictures in all their glory... but really is it that big a deal? and if it is you could get the casio which is 16bit color but has 3-6hr battery life which i find unacceptable. Well hope this helps, and didnt turn into a rant.... Dan driden@stlnet.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 01:23:55 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Jornada 545 & 548 are Pocket PC's Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > anyone has experience with Jornada 545 & 548s, which are smaller than the HP > Jornada 680 & 690s, and supposed to be even smaller than our LX 100 & 200s? I don't know much about them but they should be dropping in price really quick. Apparently, through a manufacturing/part mixup, they do not have the 16-bit color they were supposed to have and only have 12-bit color. HP is offering a refund and since they are not what they are advised as, they may be dropping in price. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:35:08 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Wagstaff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Wagstaff Subject: Re: Jornada 545 & 548 are Pocket PC's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 1 Jun 2000 14:35:13 -0700, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > anyone has experience with Jornada 545 & 548s, which are smaller than the HP > Jornada 680 & 690s, and supposed to be even smaller than our LX 100 & 200s? > > i don't mind Win CE with Word/Excel, but how about battery life? Probably the best place for opinions on the Jornada 540 series is the discussion forums at http://www.pdabuzz.com and http://www.brighthand.com. I haven't used either myself, but the general consensus seems to be that they are reasonably nice machines - almost as slim as Palm devices and relatively zippy with the new Pocket PC (CE 3) OS. Battery life, however, is far less than with the LX - best case is apparently around over 8 hours (yes, hours!) continuous use, worst case down to two or even less. Like all devices, it depends on your usage. There is a major controversy currently surrouding them, however - HP recently discovered that they can only display 12-bit rather than 16-bit colour. Quite how important that really is is a matter for (often heated) debate. -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:35:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Wagstaff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Wagstaff Subject: Re: CHESS ON OUR PALMTOP. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 1 Jun 2000 08:50:13 -0700, Jorgen Wallgren wrote: > Has anyone figured out why ChessMaster 2000 always will hang the palmtop > after a while? It's deffinately the best chess program to run on the > 200LX. Or is my copy corrupted??? Nope. Happened with my copy (version 1.06) as well. -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 20:39:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Jornada 545 & 548 are Pocket PC's Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: F. Kaufman To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:24 PM Subject: Re: Jornada 545 & 548 are Pocket PC's >> anyone has experience with Jornada 545 & 548s, which are smaller than the HP >> Jornada 680 & 690s, and supposed to be even smaller than our LX 100 & 200s? > >I don't know much about them but they should be dropping in price really >quick. Apparently, through a manufacturing/part mixup, they do not have >the 16-bit color they were supposed to have and only have 12-bit color. >HP is offering a refund and since they are not what they are advised as, >they may be dropping in price. Ive been following this closely, and am not too thrilled about how HP has handled it. From what ive gathered there will be no rebate, and no drop in price... from their point of view it was a mistake... but their pricing is based upon their cost, and their cost didnt change... They seem to be offering a 'good will' package for existing users... you can either return your unit, or you can get this 'good will' package which includes a t-shirt and a printer cartridge (which sounds kinda lame to me). In reality though HP still has a good product and their price point isnt bad. The only alternatives in the Pocket PC world are the Casio E115 which has a beautiful screen but TERRIBLE battery life... and the Compaq iPaq which besides not being available yet doesnt have a CF card slot internally... you have to get a sleeve to ad CF which doubles the thickness of the unit. So the HP with its Palm IIIc size... pocket PC apps... and ok (for a color unit) battery life isnt bad at all for only $50 more than a Palm IIIc. Dan driden@stlnet.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 03:55:17 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Homemade MP3 player - for 200LX too? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Hello all, If you want to homemake an MP3 player, visit this page: I wonder if the box could be adapted to the 200LX, so that the three chips are mounted on a PCMCIA chassis and thus the device uses shared memory from a T2T 64/96MB RAM upgrade to store MP3 stream files? Of course it would be totally software controlled from a neat little DOS based GUI with graphic equalizer. BTW, what happened to Morphy One? The webpage last changed March 7th! Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:01:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Compaq Flash and Adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>PS - I found the CF to PCMCIA adapter I was looking for. Office Depot in Salem Oregon! The following did not carry what I needed and did not have a clue what I was asking for: Office Max, Fred Meyer, Wal-mart, Staples.<<<<<< Both Office Depot and Best buy carry these. I don't know about Staples and Fred Meyer, but Office Max and Wal-mart don't have much depth. They both have a lot of things but nobody seems to have thought much about how they fit together. I always check Office Depot and Best Buy first and Service Merchandise next if I want anything sophisticated in electronics. Barry Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:07:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Dos driver for Tandy PDD2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>I have a Tandy PDD2 drive and, somewhere, a DOS driver for it. I once thought of pulling it out, but it is only 100k per side. Hmmm.<<<<< I ran across this page today http://www.irobot.org/m100/default.htm that has a file called pdd_110.exe that allows operation of a pdd1 or pdd2 from the dos command line. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:15:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Newbie questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>Is it possible, by writing config.sys and autoexec.bat files, to make the 100LX boot directly into DOS without going through the manager?<<< By default the 100lx boots directly into Dos. There's usually a line in the autoexec.bat file that takes it into the applications manager for those who want that. I don't have that line in mine. I primarily use it as a dos machine and go into the app manager when I have to. The command 100 does that. >>>>Is there a sleep mode so that you can suspend work by turning the machine off, then turning it on and going directly back to it, or must it be rebooted each time like most DOS computers?<<<< That's the way it always works. To reboot you have to use Ctrl Alt Del. >>>I'm asking these questions because I am interested in a computer that can start up and work on a moment's notice, without waiting for all sorts of housekeeping chores to take place first.<<< This is it. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:11:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: SUPER Good News! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:14:16 -0400 (EDT) Greetings - All of us who have been worried about the status of the SUPER site can breathe a sigh of relief. It's alive and well 8-) Just stopped in to check things out, and there's a May 31, 2000 update. Later Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:47:11 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Various pda types >I keep hearing voice recognition and picture rows of cubicles with >each person talking to their computer and getting it to type what >their neighboring cubicle mate is saying instead. Or the office >will sound almost like a church where there is this low murmur >running throughout. I hope I'm retired by that time................. Message-Id: <20000602024712.ULOW1339.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.139¨> Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 02:47:17 +0000 ROFL .... Sometimes the dream turns to a nightmare. Like when they thought the greatest interface would be devices that talked to us, such as the cars that reminded riders to buckle up, and were mostly deactivated cuz people felt nagged. Maybe speech recognition is our way of nagging back. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 23:23:27 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: 100LX, boot, sleep, modem/memory Thanks to all who have responded to my questions! The 100LX sounds like a dream come true! I've decided to get a 100LX for sure (costs less than a 200LX, and will do everything I want--mostly text files for information and telecommunications). I'm trying to get the best deal on a 100LX and a modem/memory card. Thanks to all who have responded on the modem/memory card. I have to decide how much RAM I need and how much I can afford after buying the 100LX! :-) Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Let the little children come to Me," Jesus said, "and don't keep them away. The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." -Matthew 19:14 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:48:37 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: FA: 3Com Palm III MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EB43FF307BACEB6823E292A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EB43FF307BACEB6823E292A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all; I'm auctioning my 3Com Palm III on eBay, see: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=348216272 Regards, Richard Smith --------------EB43FF307BACEB6823E292A0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="rsmith.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rsmith.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Orion On-Site Computer Services adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:rsmith@enol.com note;quoted-printable:aka, on eBay: seronac=0D=0A*=0D=0A"You're where you are because of who you are. But who you are is not as important as who you become."*=0D=0A"If variety is the spice of life, then humor is the dessert." * =0D=0A"Statistically, at least half of the people in the world are of below-average intelligence." * fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------EB43FF307BACEB6823E292A0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:00:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Various pda types Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "F. Kaufman" wrote: > > Yup, I can see the day now. Two people sitting in their cubicle, > talking about their boss, while their "pda/communicator" is taking > complete notes!!! (G) > > I keep hearing voice recognition and picture rows of cubicles with each > person talking to their computer and getting it to type what their > neighboring cubicle mate is saying instead. Or the office will sound > almost like a church where there is this low murmur running throughout. > I hope I'm retired by that time................. > What an evocative thought! Can you imagine the fruitful territory for lawyers when I argue that every other word in that contract was actually one of yours from the cubicle next door? Or that you are guilty of the crime of `murmuring in my mike'... What is the computer going to do with my most frequent programming command: `Oh, S...' I suppose the only appropriate response for it is `Abort, Retry, Fail? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 22:59:28 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Cameron Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Cameron Organization: None Subject: Re: HP100LX as PDA functionality? Comments: To: Mark Willis In-Reply-To: <3936C2A6.3532C34C@foxinternet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Willis wrote: >I have a 2Mb 2x 200LX, will be upgrading it to 8Mb+ soon. > >What I need's 2-fold; I need a dedicated DOS machine, plus a dedicated >PDA. Need the full 640k in Dos for the CAD work, source code and text >editing and compiling and so on that I need to do under Dos. And I need >more battery life than the PC110 I've been using gives me, definitely. With 8 MB, you'll be able to run Software Carousel and quickly switch between the App Manager session, and the full-memory DOS session. I do this. -- Curtis Cameron WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 01:35:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Post/Lx - Hplx maillist and repling to list only? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Martin, > When I use Post/Lx to reply to a message can I send the reply to the > list only? When I hit F3 I get both the Hplxmaillist adress and the one > that sent the mail to the list.. I want to only reply to the list. > > What have I missed? I have scrolled through the helpfiles, but the > "problem" is that in the From header of the mail from the list has both > adresses in it? Instead of F3 hit the letters T to reply to the list only F to reply to the person which posted the mail HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 07:46:45 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal on DS 200LX Comments: To: MichStocker@CS.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Michael, On Wed, 31 May 2000 20:01:03 EDT, Michael Stocker wrote: > What versions, if any, of Turbo Pascal work well on a DS 200LX? I run Borland Ppascal 7.0 successfully on my DS 200LX. GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:08:06 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: HP100LX as PDA functionality? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, all. Just sanity checking my latest ideas here I have a 2Mb 2x 200LX, will be upgrading it to 8Mb+ soon. What I need's 2-fold; I need a dedicated DOS machine, plus a dedicated PDA. Need the full 640k in Dos for the CAD work, source code and text editing and compiling and so on that I need to do under Dos. And I need more battery life than the PC110 I've been using gives me, definitely. I'd been figuring on finding a 1000cx, but those are too darn rare. Need to get this going soon. For just the basic Address Book, Appointment Book, To-Do type of PDA use, is there any significant difference between a DS 100LX and a DS 200LX in terms of bugs, speed, behavior, etc.? I'd like more clues. Mark -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 00:24:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Don Chow Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Chow Subject: Re: ACT! for HP Palmtops: Y2K? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I actually bought a copy of ACT for the palmtop in '99 I think, but didn't really get around to using it :( Since then, I seem to remember hearing it wasn't Y2K compliant, which made me hesitate to set up all my data in it. Is it in fact OK for Y2K or has anyone had problems? 200LX in Vancouver On 05-30 06:32am PDT, you wrote: > Thanks. Nice thought & useful. > Bill > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:05:08 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , alban@MYCROFT.U-NET.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alban Pearce Subject: Wanted HP300Lx Conectivity Pack Comments: To: Sputnik In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I an hoping this is like the HP95 Lx's connectivity pack that allows me to run the appointment /phone book programs on a Dos /Win Pc I Just heed the software as I already have a serial cable ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:56:40 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Nokia 8210 connects at 14400 baud! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan, Hans Peter and others, On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:44:22 -0400, Hans Peter Staber wrote: > > ModemInit=AT&F+CBST=14,0,1 > > > > WWW/LX reports "connect 14400". I'm not sure, if it works with > > Even though you mentioned it would work only with the new phones I tried > it with my 8810. > > Connection worked - at 9600 baud as before :-( I had a look into the AT command docs of the S25 - there's also this CBST thing described, but only up to 9600, too! :-( But I'll try it anyway - maybe a new software version or chipset version also supports 14400, and since I swapped my S25 recently, I now have a very new one. If it works, I'll let you know. GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:56:45 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)? Comments: To: ahzilly@CS.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Wed, 31 May 2000 20:10:43 +0100, Tony Hutchins wrote: > ExplodeDigest=1 > > in your HPLX-L email box section in POST/LX and the digest is > automatically exploded into mesasages as it is downloaded! Do you get the messages out of the digest this way exactly as you would get them as separate emails (i.e. with the correct subject lines and other header data)? GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:56:42 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: boot to DOS; sleep mode Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Mark, On Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:31:13 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: > I have a couple of newbie questions--I'm about to > acquire a 100LX. very good choice! :-) > Is it possible, by writing config.sys and autoexec.bat > files, to make the 100LX boot directly into DOS without > going through the manager? Yes - just copy the autoexec.bat from the ROM drive (D:) onto the RAM drive (C:) and remove the last line "100" or "200" (depsnds on if you have a 100LX or 200LX). > Is there a sleep mode so that you can suspend work > by turning the machine off, then turning it on and > going directly back to it, or must it be rebooted each > time like most DOS computers? No need to ever reboot, unless you have a crash or you want to load new drivers. Whenever you switch the LX off, it will save its status and ecover it when you switch it back on. Ou can also only stop to work and after 3 minutes it turns itself off. > > I'm asking these questions because I am interested in > a computer that can start up and work on a moment's > notice, without waiting for all sorts of housekeeping > chores to take place first. Then the 100 / 200LX is the best you can get, in my opinion. "modern" palmtops, such as the WinCE devies or the palms or psions also offer this feature, as far as I know, but these are not DOS compatible. GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:51:37 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ahzilly@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:24:03 +0100 (BST) 27m18s ago ... On Fri, 2 Jun 2000 11:56:45 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Do you get the messages out of the digest this way exactly as you > would get them as separate emails (i.e. with the correct > subject lines and other header data)? Daniel - the exploded digest messages have basically only three headers: Date: From: Subject: (plus if a message is sent MIME encoded, a couple of MIME headers) One way to always reply to the list from the digest is save a template with the list address as the To: - then when replying a "T" will put nothing more in the To:, as there is no To: header in the headers above. Actually a "R" works too, but "F" replies to the From only. So, the headers have been "digested" too, but they are still sufficient. Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 13:40:17 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Nokia 8210 connects at 14400 baud! Comments: To: Hans Peter Staber MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hans Peter Staber wrote: > > I am able to get a connection speed of 14400 baud with my Nokia 8210 > > Even though you mentioned it would work only with the new phones I = tried > it with my 8810. > > Connection worked - at 9600 baud as before :-( I guess it's your GSM provider's fault and not the 8810 as long as you don't get ERROR after executing AT&F+CBST=3D14,0,1. If I set up my 8210 for 14400 baud and connect through the german D1 net, I also get only a connect of 9600. That means, the GSM provider has to support the higer speeds. The Nokia 8210 is even capable of analog (V.34) 19200 bps and 28800 bps. Possible digital (V.110 ISDN) speeds are 14400, 19200, 28800 and 38400 but unfortunately my provider VIAG does not support these speeds :-( I found a complete AT command set PDF file for the 8210 under http://www.forum.nokia.com follow -Product Support -Nokia Data Supported Phones -Nokia 8210 -Guides -AT-help-8210.pdf I have all my information from this very good documentation. It even = looks like the 8210 supports HSCSD (High Speed Circuit Switched Data). This should = become one intermediate standard (43,2 kBits/s) on the way to UMTS. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:04:08 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Wagstaff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Wagstaff Subject: Re: Homemade MP3 player - for 200LX too? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 1 Jun 2000 18:56:28 -0700, Feher Tamas wrote: > BTW, what happened to Morphy One? The webpage last changed > March 7th! I mailed Akinobu a few weeks back and haven't heard anything in reply. Perhaps someone could translate the "latest status" at http://www.morphyone.org and http://www.morphyplanning.co.jp? -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:30:09 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Jornada 545 & 548 are Pocket PC's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike Wagstaff wrote: > HP recently discovered that they can only display > 12-bit rather than 16-bit colour. Quite how important that > really is is a matter for (often heated) debate. It is not as unimportant as some may think. The major concern is display speed of images. The most wide spread image format nowadays is GIF and JPG. GIF only supports up to 8-bit color, whereas JPG only supports 24-bit color. For GIF display a 8-bit color screen is sufficient. No loss of color information. For JPG display, any screen with less than 24-bit color results in a process called "color reduction", to map the 24-bit colors to 16-bit (or 12-bit). This has to be done in software and can easily take 4x the time to display the image on a 24-bit screen. It depends on how accurate the color reduction is done. You have to wade several times through the JPG to count the colors, built a histogramm, decide which color to delete and at the end you should dither the reduced colors to "fool" the eye. I do all that in LXPIC, but I don't do it accurate. I decided for speed and developed a "nearest color algorithm", which allows me to do all needed actions during one walk through the JPG. That's the reason why some LXPIC users complain about the not so perfect display of JPGs on color desktops. Concerning the Jornada, 8-bit colors are sufficient for any text and GIF. But if it comes to JPG, everything which is not 24-bit results in slow display of these images and it is unimportant if the screen displays 16 or 12-bit colors. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:41:50 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dannis Chan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dannis Chan Subject: Re: Nokia 8210 connects at 14400 baud! Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <12xpnm-0rqHjcC@fwd07.sul.t-online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sorry I ask :) For my understanding, the 8210 does not have built-in modem, would you please advice me the method to connect the internet with it through my 200lx? Since I also have the 8210 and the sale man told me that it can not be done as I want. Dannis At 01:40 PM 2000/6/2 +0000, you wrote: >Hans Peter Staber wrote: > > > > I am able to get a connection speed of 14400 baud with my Nokia 8210 > > > > Even though you mentioned it would work only with the new phones I tried > > it with my 8810. > > > > Connection worked - at 9600 baud as before :-( > >I guess it's your GSM provider's fault and not the 8810 as long as you >don't get ERROR after executing AT&F+CBST=14,0,1. > >If I set up my 8210 for 14400 baud and connect through the german D1 net, >I also get only a connect of 9600. That means, the GSM provider has to >support the higer speeds. > >The Nokia 8210 is even capable of analog (V.34) 19200 bps and 28800 bps. >Possible digital (V.110 ISDN) speeds are 14400, 19200, 28800 and 38400 >but unfortunately my provider VIAG does not support these speeds :-( > >I found a complete AT command set PDF file for the 8210 under > >http://www.forum.nokia.com > >follow > >-Product Support >-Nokia Data Supported Phones >-Nokia 8210 >-Guides >-AT-help-8210.pdf > >I have all my information from this very good documentation. It even looks >like >the 8210 supports HSCSD (High Speed Circuit Switched Data). This should become >one intermediate standard (43,2 kBits/s) on the way to UMTS. > >Stefan > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:49:19 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Nokia 8210 connects at 14400 baud! Comments: To: Dannis Chan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dannis Chan wrote: > For my understanding, the 8210 does not have built-in modem, you were wrong informed. Indeed it has a built in modem. > would you please advice me the method to connect the internet with it > through my 200lx? you need WWW/LX from D&A to connect to the internet, because the 8210 only has an IrDA interface and WWW/LX is the only software which supports IrDA connections on the palmtop. Download WWW/LX from http://www.dasoft.com and install it on your palmtop. That's it. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:07:49 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: 100LX/flash card/drives (c: d: e:) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I'm wondering what the arrangement of drives will be in a 100LX if I install a flash RAM card. I think I remember references to a D: drive in ROM and that when the machine is running the 'leftover' RAM in the 1MB internal memory becomes a C: drive of about 200K or so. Does a flash RAM card then become the E: drive or what? Thanks for any thoughts on this. Mark Shields /\_/\ ( o o ) ==¬== beamsplitter@juno.com www.stmattpitt.org ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:15:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: 100LX/flash card/drives (c: d: e:) Comments: To: Mark Shields In-Reply-To: <383854900.959951269587.JavaMail.root@web631-wra.mail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Mark Shields wrote: > I'm wondering what the arrangement of drives will be in > a 100LX if I install a flash RAM card. I think I remember > references to a D: drive in ROM and that when the > machine is running the 'leftover' RAM in the 1MB internal > memory becomes a C: drive of about 200K or so. Does > a flash RAM card then become the E: drive or what? I believe the PCMCIA slot becomes drive a:\ for memory. Also, in a previous message I think you mentioned planning to use the 100LX for telecommunications. I don't recall what the hardware differences are between the 100LX and 200LX (if there are any), but seem to remember hearing that the built-in comm package was upgraded substantially in going from the 100LX to the 200LX. This may make no difference to you, but it's worth pointing out. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 06:20:09 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 100LX/flash card/drives (c: d: e:) Comments: To: Mark Shields Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Close. The PC card becomes drive A. Normal autoexec.bat setup (from the factory) also adds a DOS ASSIGN statement which aliases the A drive to drive E (ie, referring to either drive A or E in your program gets at the same data). Useful for older programs that think drive A has to be a floppy. Most old-timers have replaced the ASSIGN with the DOS SUBST command which takes less (none) memory and works as well. This is true for 200LX, and I assume also for 100LX. - Longden Mark Shields on 06/02/2000 06:07:49 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Mark Shields To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: 100LX/flash card/drives (c: d: e:) I'm wondering what the arrangement of drives will be in a 100LX if I install a flash RAM card. I think I remember references to a D: drive in ROM and that when the machine is running the 'leftover' RAM in the 1MB internal memory becomes a C: drive of about 200K or so. Does a flash RAM card then become the E: drive or what? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:36:34 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Nokia 8210 connects at 14400 baud! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > The Nokia 8210 is even capable of analog (V.34) 19200 bps and 28800 = bps. > Possible digital (V.110 ISDN) speeds are 14400, 19200, 28800 and 38400 > but unfortunately my provider VIAG does not support these speeds :-( Really too bad. Thank you for the hint using +CBST.. To ATTGLOBAL.NET it connects always using ISDN which make the dialin much faster. I have never been able to connect to T-Online using ISDN via my Nokia Data Card. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:43:17 +0100 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: boot/partition magic.. Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit True; but the problem arises when you have DOS (in my case DOS 6.22 ) in the other primary C: drive partition where NU in Win C:\program files\norton utilities\system cannot see your DOS files. Maybe I was paranoid, but I wanted to get far away from the DOS7 under W95 after it continually messed up a supercalc file. It might have been possible to install DOS 6.22 in a logical partition where it would not suffer interference from DOS 7. Lots of you will know the answer to this, but I was playing safe. I have just looked at the NU "Readme" which states "This version of NU will run only under Windows, except for the "Tune-up" programs which are for use on previous versions of DOS". Presumably, one could copy the files from the directory mentioned above and its sub dcty. to a primary partition DOS and they should work. Richard "F. Kaufman" wrote: > > I use NU for windows. One may use it, including NDD and Speed Disk, on > > any partition (one at a time) accessible from the Windows C: drive. I > > use it regularly. > > AFAIK it cannot be installed on a non-Win drive. I don't suppose > > Symantec still have NU for DOS? My other C:drive has DOS 6.22, with > > chkdsk,scandisk and defrag. > > Actually, the version of NU I have, has DOS utilities - as a matter of > fact some of the tools will ONLY work in dos - like the disk editor, I > believe. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:44:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Jornada color MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>Ive been following this closely, and am not too thrilled about how HP has handled it. From what ive gathered there will be no rebate, and no drop in price... from their point of view it was a mistake... but their pricing is based upon their cost, and their cost didnt change... They seem to be offering a 'good will' package for existing users... you can either return your unit, or you can get this 'good will' package which includes a t-shirt and a printer cartridge (which sounds kinda lame to me).<<<< I just read about this and I thought offering a refund for unhappy customers seemed like the thing to do. Especially since the concensus is that most people would never have seen 16 bit color anyway since only a few apps support it. That seems to be backed up by the fact that they've never had a complaint about this in their 420 which has had the same problem for a year. It seems like they're right in thinking it's a broken promise, not a reduced value. And it seems like their offer of a refund shows that they take the broken promise seriously. Hooray for HP. They haven't done much in recent years to make me feel good about them like I used to. I'm glad they did this. Maybe there's some hope for HP after all. If I was in the market for a Pocket PC (which I'm not), I don't think this would cause me to shy away from Jornada. I might wait a while to see if they fix this problem but I wouldn't wait too long. I don't know much about the new Jornadas (not that that gets in the way of my having an opinion :) but the overall idea of the WinCE/Pocket PC is really pretty good. A fast cpu, lots of memory, good multimedia all in a pocket size machine. If they ever get it right and pick a cpu for all of them to use and get the OS simplified, and improve battery life (although 8 hours is getting closer), they're going to be hard to beat. If they ever do all that. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:07:55 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: Jornada 545 & 548 are Pocket PC's Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan, Very enlightening message. Thanks for the details. =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 08:24:31 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: ACT! for HP Palmtops: Y2K? Comments: To: Don Chow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is Y2K odd. Prior to 2/29/2000 it did not see a 2/29/2000. However after 2/29/2000 it 2/28/2000 as the day of the week that was 2/29/2000. So the various days line up well for after that date. I have it working. I am able to link to a copy of ACT! version 3 for windows and I also have ACT for CE on my VELO linking to ACT! 3.0 so I can swap data around. I have Intellisych for palm Pilot which claims to be able to link with ACT! 3.0 but neither my wife or son have let me fiddle with their machines so I haven't tested it. We have started a mailing list for act! on handhelds but only have a dozen members thus far. it is act-pda@egroups.com Don Chow wrote: > > I actually bought a copy of ACT for the palmtop in '99 I think, but didn't > really get around to using it :( > > Since then, I seem to remember hearing it wasn't Y2K compliant, which made > me hesitate to set up all my data in it. Is it in fact OK for Y2K or has > anyone had problems? > > 200LX in Vancouver > > On 05-30 06:32am PDT, you wrote: > > > Thanks. Nice thought & useful. > > Bill > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- Patrick West pgpkey 2.6.2 fingerprint is 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:32:25 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: Homemade MP3 player - for 200LX too? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It uses smart media - I'd sort of prefer Compact Flash, being able to recycle that and having spares already; Where to put the buttons if you made it a PCMCIA card, btw? I already use AT90S8515's, nice microcontrollers, though mine are "PDIP", larger chips, he has "PQFP" quad packs (lots smaller) Nice! - There's source code in there. Good! I don't know the other 2 chips; looking at it all I'd say chip size should fit on a PCMCIC card, but, capacitor size and power might be problems if you tried to build this on a PCMCIA card and get loud sound out of the system; Headset, no unpowered speakers, definitely. I'd prefer to do a professional batch of multilayer PC boards instead of routing all those wire wrap wires, this sounds like "prototype one on PDIP parts with PQFP as needed, then get a multilayer card made up for final product", to me. See http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~elm/reports/mpc/mpc_pcb3.jpeg if you think this one's a beginners' project That little chip is SMALL, under 1/2 inch square (about 1cm by 1cm) It's "Dust Mote Soldering" for much of this project, not for beginners unless they're severely motivated I have a Dos File System on Serial DataFlash project I committed to first; this would be fun after that though. Make this use the Dos File System on Compact Flash, that'd be nice... Is some other designer intrigued as well? Mark Feher Tamas wrote: > Hello all, > > If you want to homemake an MP3 player, visit this page: > > > I wonder if the box could be adapted to the 200LX, so that > the three > chips are mounted on a PCMCIA chassis and thus the device > uses shared > memory from a T2T 64/96MB RAM upgrade to store MP3 stream > files? Of > course it would be totally software controlled from a neat > little > DOS based GUI with graphic equalizer. > > BTW, what happened to Morphy One? The webpage last changed > March 7th! > > Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:36:30 -0700 Reply-To: Ron Zhang Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Zhang Subject: Re: FFDB 2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Indeed, this is a great program - so much faster than the built-in Notes! There is a possible bug that I just found: 1. From the main screen, change to List View; 2. Go to the last record of the database; 3. Either press F3(Edit) or F4(Memo). Instead of pulling the last record into the built-in editor or Memo Editor, it pulls some text string from somewhere (in my case, it looks like the 1st record ). The last record doesn't appear at all. I can reproduce this bug any time. Any other record works fine though. Can anyone try it? Another minor issue: I like to work in List View. But every time I exit and reopen the program, it goes right back to Note View. Is there a way to make List View the default? Ron Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:32:25 +10 From: Alain Subject: Re: FFDB 2.0 hi, this new version is fantastic, I really apreciate the speed (search and edit), the infoselect compatibility, the wrap when you zoom, the export fonction. question, Why th 600 notes limitation? inprouvement: *position the cursor after the date stamp on a new notes *warning when using esc after adding a new note (the note is note saved) *easy way to add a category (acces to a list of word) *template *export to a database bugs: export do not replace the existant file. Thanx for this great new version Alain Al Wyn@comcen.com.au Sydney / Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:09:36 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: HP100LX as PDA functionality? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Curtis Cameron wrote: > Mark Willis wrote: > >I have a 2Mb 2x 200LX, will be upgrading it to 8Mb+ soon. > > > >What I need's 2-fold; I need a dedicated DOS machine, plus a dedicated > >PDA. Need the full 640k in Dos for the CAD work, source code and text > >editing and compiling and so on that I need to do under Dos. And I need > >more battery life than the PC110 I've been using gives me, definitely. > > With 8 MB, you'll be able to run Software Carousel and quickly switch > between the App Manager session, and the full-memory DOS session. I do > this. > > -- > Curtis Cameron > WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724 Good idea, yet I'd already thought about that and rejected it - I have different needs than that, which is why I asked the question the way I did. I do a lot of programming around serial data communications; When I'm in the middle of "programmer's trance" during an intense piece of coding, or doing some really hard CAD work, the last thing I want is to have the screen suddenly jump to "It's 1 PM, remember to call that person you were going to call some time today!" - it visually jars me and messes me up. Takes about 15-20 minutes to recover what I was in the middle of. I'd rather prevent this shooting myself in the foot thing. (Most work places don't allow personal incoming phone calls, for the same reason.) OTOH if I don't HAVE a PDA, I come out of "programmers' trance" at 1AM and wonder why I didn't call the person I meant to call. (Good thing is that I'm really really productive, bad thing is no social life ) What I want is to be productive while being notified of PDA events, without being jarred out of my socks I can then save what I was doing at an opportune moment, come out and call them, go get more water and get back to working. I've seen people so in "programmers' trance" that they walk down the hall & right into each other; Coders think a lot (Most go play outdoors regularly, too, just when doing anything, they focus deeply... It's needed to do the work right. You wouldn't want the guy who made the ABS system on your car to have been thinking lightly while designing that!) When I'm using the development machine as a terminal/device simulator to test a serial link, last thing I want then is for the same PDA thing to pop up destroying a test of a serial communications link. I just plain need separate machines. (It's interesting how often I can prove that someone's "perfectly designed", expensive machine has a flaw in it's design or documentation, by writing a simulator and putting a laptop in their machine's place to simulate it - all of a sudden my code starts working perfectly as no bugs are present; Also, it's quite hard to carry a fueling station (for example) home with me to do coding at home. I've used an old XT laptop as a simulator in the past, would rather use a 95LX or better, as it's lighter and no AC power's required ) Also, if some jerk "liberates" my PDA machine, it won't be pretty. I'll be stuck in programmers' trance for life (That's all why I'll probably be a 3 or 4-LX 'fiend' eventually - I know the PDA functionality's a requirement for me, also want my source code safe and the serial link monitor/simulation capability available. May actually sell off my PC110's some day, may not...) So still want to know about 100LX PDA stuff. Can get 200LX's instead if that's best, want to know my options. Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:46:20 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Pygmy Forth (Was Re: HPLX-L Digest...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Sorry to send this to the list, but Barry's ISP is rejecting email from mine 8-(( Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:17:07 -0400 (EDT) 4 days 04h14m34s ago ... On Mon, 29 May 2000, Barry wrote: > Thanks for letting me know about this. I've downloaded your > modification but I haven't looked at it yet. I've seen Victor's and > it was acceptable but there was no list of the LX functions that I > know about. Hope you've had a chance to try it out. The docs in this version do list the LX functions, and as I recall, all include the stack comments. (see readme.1st and extend.txt) > If you do make up any more docs or mods to the .dow files I'd like > to see them, but I think you've just given me what I really need. > Thanks. > > By the way, I don't want to miss a chance to preach. I gave Victor > my one criticism about Pygmy-100 but he disagreed and left it as it > was. I'd like to pass the same suggestion to you. It isn't > difficult to do, if you think it should be done. > He had the editor set the 64x18 mode automatically and had Pygmy put > capslock on automatically. When you left Pygmy capslock went off > and I forget what mode he left the screen in but it was always the > same. My suggestion was that he record the mode and capslock > settings at the start and restore them at termination. Mine works the same way for now, but your suggestion seems like a reasonable idea to me...Having Pygmy restore the shift state (capslock, numlock, and scrllock) would be simple. For saving and restoring the zoom state, I'll have to try to find where this is stored. The shift setting is done by Read-Modify-Write, so the initial setting is available. The zoom setting is done via an int service, so I'm not sure where the LX stashes the current setting. Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 04:10:32 +0900 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KAZU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KAZU Subject: Re: Homemade MP3 player - for 200LX too Comments: To: etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi Tamas & all. >BTW, what happened to Morphy One? The webpage last changed >March 7th! The hardware designer of Morphy One is now checking the test circuit board. ROM DOS works on this board. This Project forced to laten. In Japan, the delivery of the almost electric parts is too long now. This is the worst situation in my experience. Because all of these kinds of parts are used for cellar phones. Some parts needs 2 month or more. We are waiting!! ---------------------------------------------- Kazu(K.Tanabe) Kyoto, Japan My HP200LX is Double speed with 1.5MB(C:) 96MB(F:) and 220MB(A:). E-mail QWQ11433@nifty.ne.jp ---------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:33:24 +0000 Reply-To: ted@nicar.org Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Ted Peterson Organization: IRE/NICAR Subject: Re: CHESS ON OUR PALMTOP. Comments: cc: Mike Wagstaff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Mike, I have used ChessMaster 2000 version 1.0 and version 1.03 on my doublespeed 200LX. Version 1.03 is a cracked version and hangs all the time. Version 1.0 is mostly stable, but will occasionally hang if you graphically take-back and replay your list of moves. I save my game before taking a move back or replaying my moves. It is safest to just look at the move list if you want to see the entire list of moves. --Ted On 1 Jun 00 21:35, Mike Wagstaff wrote: From: Mike Wagstaff > On 1 Jun 2000 08:50:13 -0700, Jorgen Wallgren > wrote: > > > Has anyone figured out why ChessMaster 2000 always will hang the palmtop > > after a while? It's deffinately the best chess program to run on the > > 200LX. Or is my copy corrupted??? > > Nope. Happened with my copy (version 1.06) as well. > > -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨ > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 15:52:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Nokia 8210 connects at 14400 baud! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan.Peichl@t-online.de wrote: > > > Connection worked - at 9600 baud as before :-( > > I guess it's your GSM provider's fault and not the 8810 as long as you > don't get ERROR after executing AT&F+CBST=14,0,1. > > If I set up my 8210 for 14400 baud and connect through the german D1 net, > I also get only a connect of 9600. That means, the GSM provider has to > support the higer speeds. I'll leave your init string in my config as it does not harm. For sure I'll notice when my cell phone provider increases transmission speed :-) > The Nokia 8210 is even capable of analog (V.34) 19200 bps and 28800 bps. > Possible digital (V.110 ISDN) speeds are 14400, 19200, 28800 and 38400 > but unfortunately my provider VIAG does not support these speeds :-( > > I found a complete AT command set PDF file for the 8210 under > > http://www.forum.nokia.com > > follow > > -Product Support > -Nokia Data Supported Phones > -Nokia 8210 > -Guides > -AT-help-8210.pdf > > I have all my information from this very good documentation. It even looks like > the 8210 supports HSCSD (High Speed Circuit Switched Data). This should become > one intermediate standard (43,2 kBits/s) on the way to UMTS. Thanks - will check that out. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 16:50:02 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: FWD: Thinfax PCMCIA modem/RAM cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I'm going to write fast because there is a thunderstorm here and a power loss has already destroyed one message for me! Will all these different versions of the Thinfax modem/RAM card work in the 100LX? And can they all use whatever DOS terminal program you prefer? I heard that at least one has some kind of ROM firmware in it, but I was also told that was only for fax, not for modem. I'm assuming the card hangs out of the 100LX a little and has a jack to insert the phone line. Other than that, I'd still like to hear from the people who have the 4MB and 8MB versions. I'm not sure which I will choose, as compared to the 2MB, but I don't want to keep the seller waiting much longer. I understand that others are interested. Thanks for any thoughts you have! Mark Shields /\_/\ ( o o ) ==¬== beamsplitter@juno.com www.stmattpitt.org ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 14:41:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: FWD: Thinfax PCMCIA modem/RAM cards Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As far as I know, the ThinFax memory/modems will all work on the 100LX. The firmware i think is only for the Fax. Those I've seen (nicluding mine) use a dongle instead of a jack. Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Shields To: Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 1:50 PM Subject: FWD: Thinfax PCMCIA modem/RAM cards > Hi! > > I'm going to write fast because there is a thunderstorm > here and a power loss has already destroyed one message > for me! > > Will all these different versions of the Thinfax modem/RAM > card work in the 100LX? And can they all use whatever > DOS terminal program you prefer? I heard that at least one > has some kind of ROM firmware in it, but I was also told > that was only for fax, not for modem. > > I'm assuming the card hangs out of the 100LX a little > and has a jack to insert the phone line. > > Other than that, I'd still like to hear from the people who > have the 4MB and 8MB versions. I'm not sure which I > will choose, as compared to the 2MB, but I don't want > to keep the seller waiting much longer. I understand > that others are interested. > > Thanks for any thoughts you have! > > Mark Shields > > /\_/\ > ( o o ) > ==¬== > beamsplitter@juno.com > www.stmattpitt.org > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 22:38:39 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: HP100LX as PDA functionality? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Mark Willis wrote: > What I need's 2-fold; I need a dedicated DOS machine, plus a dedicated > PDA. Need the full 640k in Dos for the CAD work, source code and text > editing and compiling and so on that I need to do under Dos. And I = need > more battery life than the PC110 I've been using gives me, definitely. If you don't have to have two physical units, have you considered Software Carousel? You could have one work area for CAD and another for PDA stuff and switch between the two. ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 22:38:42 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Vertical Reader Tip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I had a niggle with VR that Gilles Kohl has found a reasonable solution to. I thought I'd share it in case others have the same requirement. I use Software Carousel and keep a permanent work area for VR. Whenever I have a moment to spare, I flip to the book I'm currently reading. A book might stay open for days, sometimes weeks, and then the HP would crash or lock up because of something else I'd done. My place in the book would be lost, as VR only records your position when you quit. Similarly, bookmarks are only saved on exit. If you open a new book VR saves your place in the current. The open book dialog, invoked with / (forward slash), starts with the cursor on the current book. Open your current book and VR will save your place/bookmarks and re-open the same book at the same place. It's almost instantaneous. Tip: Press Ý/¨ÝEnter¨ when you stop reading and you won't lose your place in the book if a re-boot is needed. ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 23:06:02 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HP100LX as PDA functionality? Comments: To: Mark Willis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > So still want to know about 100LX PDA stuff. Can get 200LX's instead if > that's best, want to know my options. The only real differences that I recall is that the datacom's display (graphic???) was ramped up in the 200, the 200 has quicken and dropped some of the internal laplink (don't recall its real name) which was buggy and the datacard view of database/phone items was created (and since it is just a special form of clip, 200 db's with it are displayed fine on a 100). There is the change to pcmcia recognition that is better in the 200. There was a bug in the early 100's involving fast typing and using the shift key. The hp would swallow the first shifted character. I think, in the main, the basic pda functions are pretty much unchanged. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 07:28:09 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jorgen@PALMTOP.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Britannica Encyclopedia- Something Interesting... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there!, Did you know that Britannica Encyclopedia PC version 95/97 used "only" about 16MB of data files???? If your read this message and have an "old" copy of this program, please contact me and we shall see what can be done with it.. :) The idea is to write a user interface for 200LX which is using the data files from the original program. So please contact me if you have a copy of Britannica- I need a directory listing... As a start. :) Regards, Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:47:18 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Britannica Encyclopedia- Something Interesting... Comments: To: jorgen@PALMTOP.NET In-Reply-To: <200006022328.HAA01722@cornflower.singnet.com.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT That sounds strange. Are you sure that its not the access program that is only 16M and the data is still on the CD? I would be really impressed if they could get much of an encyclopedia in 16M. Pete On 3 Jun 2000, at 7:28, Jorgen Wallgren wrote: > Hi there!, > > Did you know that Britannica Encyclopedia PC version 95/97 used "only" > about 16MB of data files???? If your read this message and have an > "old" copy of this program, please contact me and we shall see what > can be done with it.. :) The idea is to write a user interface for > 200LX which is using the data files from the original program. > > So please contact me if you have a copy of Britannica- I need a > directory listing... As a start. :) > > Regards, > > Jorgen > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:56:24 -0400 Reply-To: upstate@pipeline.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harris Subject: Lotus 1-2-3 function editing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Does anyone know how to edit a function in Lotus 1-2-3 without re-typing the entire function? I sure hope there's a way! Thanks in advance... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 19:23:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Lotus 1-2-3 function editing Comments: To: upstate@pipeline.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Highlight the cell and press F2 (edit). - Longden Harris on 06/02/2000 06:56:24 PM Please respond to upstate@pipeline.com To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Lotus 1-2-3 function editing Does anyone know how to edit a function in Lotus 1-2-3 without re-typing the entire function? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 22:33:04 -0400 Reply-To: upstate@pipeline.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harris Subject: Re: Lotus 1-2-3 function editing Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <882568F3.000D4C41.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes! Thank you so much... -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Longden Loo Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:24 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Lotus 1-2-3 function editing Highlight the cell and press F2 (edit). - Longden Harris on 06/02/2000 06:56:24 PM Please respond to upstate@pipeline.com To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Lotus 1-2-3 function editing Does anyone know how to edit a function in Lotus 1-2-3 without re-typing the entire function? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:07:48 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Britannica Encyclopedia- Something Interesting... Comments: To: jorgen@PALMTOP.NET In-Reply-To: <200006022328.HAA01722@cornflower.singnet.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Did you know that Britannica Encyclopedia PC version 95/97 used "only" >about 16MB of data files???? If your read this message and have an "old" >copy of this program, please contact me and we shall see what can be >done with it.. :) The idea is to write a user interface for 200LX which >is using the data files from the original program. My Britannica 97 has this: ARTICLES 408.3 MB DB 228.2 MB DICT 216.5 MB INDEX 51.9 MB DATA 12.8 MB If you only put the "DATA" files on a palmtop, you would not have a very functional program. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 21:10:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: FWD: Thinfax PCMCIA modem/RAM cards Comments: To: Mark Shields In-Reply-To: <382474626.959979003159.JavaMail.root@web631-wra.mail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >I'm assuming the card hangs out of the 100LX a little >and has a jack to insert the phone line. It goes in flush with the end of the LX. The connector is NOT an RJ-11 plug, but a cable with an RJ-11 at one end and a thin PC-card connector at the other that plugs into the end of the ThinFax. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:36:23 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: BOB1 Subject: Re: Jornada 545 & 548 are Pocket PC's Comments: To: b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Bob Newins wrote: > > Stefan, > > Very enlightening message. Thanks for the details. =Bob= > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml I second the motion Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:52:47 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: How to get a free copy of ACT! for Windows CE Comments: To: act-pda@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You need to fix the line breaks in this URL then it will take you to a Symantec free download of Version 1.01 ACT! for Windows CE -English http://shop.symantec.com /cgi-bin/trialware/Core/ Core.pl?SECTION=ACT!&subsite=na&MODE=1&KDATA=KKKK Yes I know it says trialware in the URL but it is a free full version. -- Patrick West pgp 2.6.2 key fingerprint = 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 00:45:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: HP100LX as PDA functionality? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > So still want to know about 100LX PDA stuff. Can get 200LX's instead if > that's best, want to know my options. The alarm and PIM functions of the 100LX and 200LX are the same programs except for a minor cosmetic addition to the 200LX. The alarms will go off at the appropriate time whenever you have the System Manager program running. If you don't have System Manager running, then the alarms will not go off until you start it. So, if you boot to plain DOS or shut down System Manager you won't be bothered by alarms. When you get to a good stopping point, restart System Manager and check in with your life. Then shut down System Manager again to go back to work. This takes about 4 key strokes and 5 seconds each way. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 00:45:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: 100LX/flash card/drives (c: d: e:) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > but seem to remember hearing that the built-in comm > package was upgraded substantially in going from the 100LX to > the 200LX. This may make no difference to you, but it's worth > pointing out. The DataComm program in the 100LX is very slow when it redraws the screen. This makes it really sluggish to use. It does work, it is just slower that it needs to be. The 200LX DataComm is much quicker. Steve Carder (who used to access Compuserve with his 100LX and DataComm) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 23:48:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: 100LX/flash card/drives (c: d: e:) In-Reply-To: <200006030445.AAA16888@spdmraab.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Jun 2000, Steve Carder wrote: > The DataComm program in the 100LX is very slow when it redraws the screen. > This makes it really sluggish to use. It does work, it is just slower that it > needs to be. The 200LX DataComm is much quicker. IMHO, I found this to be exactly opposite with the 200LX being much slower than the 100LX :-/ Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 12:20:59 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: ISP IN ARGENTINA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear LX-Travellers, I want to go to Buenos Aires next week and continue to check my Email (ISP in Spain). Could anybody of you tell me an Argentinian ISP on a call-to-call basis ? (I cancelled my Compuserve account a year ago, which now, of course, would have come in handy.) Thanks in advance Winfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 12:50:18 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: Re: FWD: Thinfax PCMCIA modem/RAM cards Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark, I gave up using the memory part of my 8MB Thinfax soon after purchase because it drew lots of power and depleted batteries leaving it in the slot all the time. So I returned to San Disk Cards and used the Thinfax only for Emailing/Faxing. You might want to buy a Fax Modem without flash memory. I now use the Thaddeus 56K Modem which is great. Regards Winfried > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:19:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , surreal@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Wallace-Jones Subject: Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sat, 3 Jun 2000 13:52:43 +0000 (GMT) On this subject, I too get the list in Digest form AND I am currently using a compuserve email account to pick up my mail from. It seems Compuserve strip off the MIME headers - I had a look at the headers and cannot see the headers previously referred to. I have had 'ExpodeDigest=1' in the mail section of POSTLX for ages and it has never worked. To get around this I have written a ROBOT/LX script which I have included in the Externals menu of POST/LX. When I get the digest I just execute the script and it explodes the digest into a specfied folder. The script is a bit slow and probably not perfect but it works for me. I have been planning on putting this up on a web-site for a while along with some experiece I have had of usng the NOKIA 6110 with the palmtop (using a NOTA-GSM cable) and now with my latest mobile, a Motorola L7089. Anyway - if anyone wants the script, I would be happy to send it to them. Cheers Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 08:29:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Jornada and 24 bit color MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<<>>> Are you sure about this? While reading about it I got the impression that software thinks it's using 24 bit color. If so, it wouldn't do any dithering and things wouldn't slow down. It probably would result in less accurate color reduction. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:57:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Editing functions in Lotus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<<<>>>> Use the F2 key. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:16:28 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: HP100LX as PDA functionality? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit F. Kaufman wrote: > > So still want to know about 100LX PDA stuff. Can get 200LX's instead if > > that's best, want to know my options. > > The only real differences that I recall is that the datacom's display > (graphic???) was ramped up in the 200, the 200 has quicken and dropped > some of the internal laplink (don't recall its real name) which was > buggy and the datacard view of database/phone items was created (and > since it is just a special form of clip, 200 db's with it are displayed > fine on a 100). > > There is the change to pcmcia recognition that is better in the 200. > > There was a bug in the early 100's involving fast typing and using the > shift key. The hp would swallow the first shifted character. > > I think, in the main, the basic pda functions are pretty much unchanged. Thanks - Good info! Quicken, I do use pretty often, that's going to be missed, so maybe I want to stay with a 200. Steve Carder wrote: > The alarm and PIM functions of the 100LX and 200LX are the same programs except > for a minor cosmetic addition to the 200LX. The alarms will go off at the > appropriate time whenever you have the System Manager program running. If you > don't have System Manager running, then the alarms will not go off until you > start it. So, if you boot to plain DOS or shut down System Manager you won't > be bothered by alarms. When you get to a good stopping point, restart System > Manager and check in with your life. Then shut down System Manager again to go > back to work. This takes about 4 key strokes and 5 seconds each way. > > Steve Carder (and later more about DataComm speed problems) - Thanks! I usually use Telix Yes, know about that - Problem's that I focus SO deep and am so little of a clock watcher, that I really need the PDA functionality. Have considered even using the Palm Pro I have here (use it to check the Palm Pro memory upgrades I make) - hard to use it to check those if I'm relying on it as a PDA, so I'd have to get a 2nd Palm for that... Good to know that the 100's are pretty much identical. Mark -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 10:13:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Subject: PCMCIA Disks,Flash Disk Protectors and Name Brand Sandisks are Available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have (6) 20 PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available. These disks are in excellent condition and have only been used a few times in testing a customer's new prototype products at work. I am selling (1) 20 Meg Disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. If are are only interested in name brand Sandisks, I also am selling (7) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks as well. I sell (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for $40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. I still have some PCMCIA Protectors left as well. They are a very nice thick leather pouch with a strong Velcro seal on them. I sell them for $4.00 a piece and if you would like (3) or more then I sell them for $3.00 a piece. I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to my address at: Scott Moore 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street Beaverton, Or 97006 I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let you know that your disk or (disks) are on the way. I always send them out the very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on Monday. I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded envelope for a safe delivery. If you are interested, email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or (disks for you). The response on our group so far has been really great and the people I have worked with have been just terrific! Thanks alot! Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:10:44 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: How connecting the HP200 to a Novell 3.12 Netword? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello networking experts, recently I bought a Accton 2216-1 network card for my HP200 and wanted to connect it to our Novell 3.12 Netware Server. My first try was with the drivers on the Accton disk, but after loading all the drivers, netx told me that no server was found. After that I was looking at the pages of Rod Whitby and found a description about connecting to a Win95 network but nothing that helped me with my Netware problem. Maybe it is not possible at all? By the way, when I tried to copy the files from the Accton disk to my HP200 with transfile, the process always stuck when I copied netx. I worked around it with copying the file on my PC's Pcmcia slot on the CF card. Hope someone can help me - and thank you for your patience, Werner -- http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 16:57:54 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eric Greenspoon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Greenspoon Subject: Re: Compact Flash Disks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Scott, >...These disks are in excellent condition and have only >been used a very few >times to test a customers new prototype product at work... Do you use all of the flashdisks that you sell? I'm wondering why you don't just keep a few to test customers' prototype products and sell the rest as brand new disks? -Eric ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:08:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yujin Nagasawa Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yujin Nagasawa Subject: WTB: 200LX Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I am looking for a 200LX (2MB or 4MB). Please e-mail me with your price. Thank you, Yujin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 18:25:18 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: How connecting the HP200 to a Novell 3.12 Netword? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't have the answer but I know it can be done because I recall an article in Palmtop Paper about a guy using his 200lx to admin his Netware 3.12 network. "Dr. Werner Furlan" wrote: > > hello networking experts, > > recently I bought a Accton 2216-1 network card for my HP200 and > wanted to connect it to our Novell 3.12 Netware Server. > My first try was with the drivers on the Accton disk, but after loading > all the drivers, netx told me that no server was found. > After that I was looking at the pages of Rod Whitby and found a > description about connecting to a Win95 network but nothing that > helped me with my Netware problem. > Maybe it is not possible at all? > > By the way, when I tried to copy the files from the Accton disk to my > HP200 with transfile, the process always stuck when I copied netx. > I worked around it with copying the file on my PC's Pcmcia slot on > the CF card. > > Hope someone can help me - and thank you for your patience, > > Werner > > -- > http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv > SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at > Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- Patrick West pgp 2.6.2 key fingerprint = 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:55:27 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Compact Flash Disks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Selling cards "used" is probably what brings the price down. If he had them new, they'd probably be priced higher than market cuz he doesn't have sales volume. - Longden Eric Greenspoon on 06/03/2000 01:57:54 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Eric Greenspoon To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Compact Flash Disks Scott, >...These disks are in excellent condition and have only >been used a very few >times to test a customers new prototype product at work... Do you use all of the flashdisks that you sell? I'm wondering why you don't just keep a few to test customers' prototype products and sell the rest as brand new disks? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 13:49:25 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , xymoxhk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: xymoxhk Subject: Re: How connecting the HP200 to a Novell 3.12 Netword? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed my simple nw3x.bat file for connect to my clients all nw3.x server. and doing syscon printcon etc no any problem. lxcic /l lxen2216 -i 0x66 pdipx netx > hello networking experts, > > recently I bought a Accton 2216-1 network card for my HP200 and > wanted to connect it to our Novell 3.12 Netware Server. > My first try was with the drivers on the Accton disk, but after loading > all the drivers, netx told me that no server was found. > After that I was looking at the pages of Rod Whitby and found a > description about connecting to a Win95 network but nothing that > helped me with my Netware problem. > Maybe it is not possible at all? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:50:10 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: How connecting the HP200 to a Novell 3.12 Netword? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got the files lxcic lxen2216 pdipx in the package, which I did download from Rod's site. But where do I get netx from? Kind regards Helmuth > my simple nw3x.bat file for connect to my clients all nw3.x server. > and doing syscon printcon etc no any problem. > > lxcic /l > lxen2216 -i 0x66 > pdipx > netx > > > hello networking experts, > > > > recently I bought a Accton 2216-1 network card for my HP200 and > > wanted to connect it to our Novell 3.12 Netware Server. > > My first try was with the drivers on the Accton disk, but after = loading > > all the drivers, netx told me that no server was found. > > After that I was looking at the pages of Rod Whitby and found a > > description about connecting to a Win95 network but nothing that > > helped me with my Netware problem. > > Maybe it is not possible at all? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 08:09:49 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: How connecting the HP200 to a Novell 3.12 Netword? Dr. Werner Furlan writes: > recently I bought a Accton 2216-1 network card for my HP200 and > wanted to connect it to our Novell 3.12 Netware Server. > Hope someone can help me - and thank you for your patience, Hi Werner, For some reason, connecting to the Novell LAN at work was one of the harder things I've done. It took me several tries, and lots of help from others. I never did get Rod Whitby's driver to work--I used the set of files (by Nori?) on SUPER. I suppose now that I got them working I might be able to go back and get Rod's working, but quite frankly once I got something to work, fiddling around further was the *last* thing I wanted to do. Anyway, here is my setup. I have in my program directory (I chose c:\prgms\net) the following files: lxcic.com net.cfg netx.exe op2216.exe pd2212.com pdipx.com Here are the contents of net.cfg and the batch file I use to load everything. Ýnet.cfg¨ netware dos requestor first network drive = g Ýnetup.bat¨ copy \prgms\lxtcp\tcp.lan \prgms\lxtcp\tcp.cfg cd \prgms\net op2216 pd2212 0x62 5 pdipx netx k: This leaves me at a k:\login prompt and I can log on to the LAN. Somebody else had to explain to me that the login drive was going to be the letter *after* the first network drive designated in the net.cfg file. This was not at all obvious to me. I have not gotten so far as to map a network drive. I use CPack to move files back and forth, and it's sufficient for me as I don't do a lot of this. I also had a lot of trouble getting some of the LXTCP applications (especially LXTELNET) to run over my LAN's internet connection. Through other helpful people on this list (thanks Mike Kopplin!), I learned that I had to specify a more complete tcp.cfg file. I have dynamic IP number assigned through my dial-up account, so that's why the first line in my batch file exists--two different tcp.cfg files for two different purposes. I don't know if you're interested in the LXTCP apps, but here's the first portion of my tcp.cfg file just in case. Ýtcp.cfg¨ ;**************************** ;* General LXTCP parameters * ;**************************** my_ip=192.168.0.143 netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=192.168.0.1 nameserver=192.168.0.1 domainslist=medinst.com hostname="lx" Anyway, hope this information helps. Good luck! Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 08:19:55 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: How connecting the HP200 to a Novell 3.12 Netword? Guenther Helmuth E. writes: > ...where do I get netx from? I think this may be part of the other package of networking files on SUPER I described in my previous post. Also, I forgot to mention that I load lxcic in my autoexec.bat file with: c:\prgms\net\lxcic /l Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 14:55:47 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: WTB: Network Card for 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Where does one purchase the Accton 2216-1 network card. I have a serious need for one and would like to purchase it within the next thirty days. Any help would be greatly appreciated. William E. Blankenship ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 22:12:48 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Giampi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Giampi Subject: Avi2eva help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know how I can edit an AVI file before I convert it with avi2eva. I think with Realplayer and with microsoft Mediaplayer it's impossible... I know I must have a file with: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Only the AVI files satisfying the following conditions can be converted. Codec All frames (No compression) Bits per pixel 8 bits per pixel (256 color pallet) Screen size 96 x 92 Sound Monaural 8-bit PCM (seemingly better to lower the sampling rate) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks! gi@mpi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 22:52:57 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Problem with Robot/lx & SMS.SCR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I run Sms.scr from post/lx vith robot/lx I download sms to the hp200lx ok, but when I try to send a msg I get: ... FGOT 'HELLO' SEND HELLO FGOT '' SEND ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 14:17:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: How connecting the HP200 to a Novell 3.12 Netword? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guenther, I can e-mail you the (Dos 6.22ish perhaps) copy I have; 77582 bytes, July 9, 1994 at 11:55:04am is the date on it. And if you need an earlier version I can fire up the older Dos 5 machine and see what I can see. Worst could happen would be an "incorrect Dos version" error, and it might just be a later, bug-fixed version. I don't use NetWare so no expert on it (Have used it at work before, but has been some time.) Now, WFW Dos networking, that I can talk 'bout Mark Guenther Helmuth E. wrote: > > I got the files > > lxcic > lxen2216 > pdipx > > in the package, which I did download from Rod's site. But where do I > get > > netx > > from? > > Kind regards > > Helmuth > > > my simple nw3x.bat file for connect to my clients all nw3.x server. > > and doing syscon printcon etc no any problem. > > > > lxcic /l > > lxen2216 -i 0x66 > > pdipx > > netx > > > > > hello networking experts, > > > > > > recently I bought a Accton 2216-1 network card for my HP200 and > > > wanted to connect it to our Novell 3.12 Netware Server. > > > My first try was with the drivers on the Accton disk, but after loading > > > all the drivers, netx told me that no server was found. > > > After that I was looking at the pages of Rod Whitby and found a > > > description about connecting to a Win95 network but nothing that > > > helped me with my Netware problem. > > > Maybe it is not possible at all? > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 14:30:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: WTB: Network Card for 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I bought a few off the 'Net a while ago, forget where from; if you jump to http://shopper.cnet.com/ and search for "Accton PCMCIA", you'll see http://shopper.cnet.com/shopping/resellers/1,10231,0-11629-311-365421,00.html?tag=st.sh.sr.pl.pr365421 has them at $54.85 & up; Check the pricing with shipping included, though (quite often Free shipping makes the effective price lower than a supposedly 'Lower' price elsewhere with $9 shipping.) If you're outside the US, I'll help (can even ship you one of mine so long as a replacement's coming; I bought a spare and haven't used it yet. Just got a 2nd 200LX that needs a little repair, so eventually may use both at once.) I just ask that people pay the shipping costs, maybe a little extra if they want. If someone else outside the US wants one, I'll help. Mark WEB wrote: > Hello, > Where does one purchase the Accton 2216-1 network card. I have a > serious need for one and would like to purchase it within the next > thirty days. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > William E. Blankenship ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 22:16:03 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: 100LX/flash card/drives (c: d: e:) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden Loo wrote: > Most old-timers have replaced the ASSIGN with the DOS > SUBST command which takes less (none) memory and works as well. ...and some of us just eliminate it altogether (although it won't recover the E: drive for other use). Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:29:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: FFDB 2.0 Comments: To: Ron.Zhang@eng.sun.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This , and the bug I reported accidentally to the list (instead of to the author), are bugs which could affect data integrity. But the author is no longer interested in working on this program, that 's why it's now freeware (abandonware perhaps?). The author has offered the source to those who ask him directly, so perhaps some other programmer would be willing to tackle the leftover programming issues which caused the author to give up. Domingo On Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:36:30 -0700 Ron Zhang writes: > Indeed, this is a great program - so much faster than the built-in > Notes! > > There is a possible bug that I just found: > > 1. From the main screen, change to List View; > 2. Go to the last record of the database; > 3. Either press F3(Edit) or F4(Memo). Instead of pulling the last > record into the built-in editor or Memo Editor, it pulls some > text > string from somewhere (in my case, it looks like the 1st record > ). > The last record doesn't appear at all. > > I can reproduce this bug any time. Any other record works fine > though. Can > anyone try it? > > Another minor issue: I like to work in List View. But every time I > exit and > reopen the program, it goes right back to Note View. Is there a way > to make > List View the default? > > Ron > > > Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:32:25 +10 > From: Alain > Subject: Re: FFDB 2.0 > > hi, > this new version is fantastic, > I really apreciate the speed (search and edit), > the infoselect compatibility, > the wrap when you zoom, > the export fonction. > > question, > Why th 600 notes limitation? > > inprouvement: > *position the cursor after the date stamp on a new notes > *warning when using esc after adding a new note (the note is note > saved) > *easy way to add a category (acces to a list of word) > *template > *export to a database > > bugs: > export do not replace the existant file. > > Thanx for this great new version > Alain > Al > Wyn@comcen.com.au > Sydney / Australia > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 20:31:47 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: WTB: Network Card for 200LX Comments: To: Mark Willis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, Thanks for the reply. I checked out the price and have it on order. William E. Blankenship ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 21:44:23 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: I found a source for new Sandisk 150MB PCMCIA cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I contacted the persons that had this ebay auction http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=346192751 and they were willing to sell me a new Sandisk 150MB card for $150+ship. I asked them if it's okay to post their email address here and they agreed. They said they would be willing to let the rest go for $155 each. I figure that's a good price and they probably need customers who need PCMCIA flash cards as many today want compact flash. They have 10 more of these cards plus more of other types. The email address is: mailto://paulbeth@phnx.uswest.net I have no affiliation with these sellers. I just decided to approach them on a cheaper price after I lost the auction. ;¬> I also wanted to provide the list with a source for large cards at a great price.... hurry! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 13:28:59 +0800 Reply-To: "Roger S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Roger S." Subject: Fw: Info Select DOS on 200LX ÝYahoo! Clubs: HP 200LX PDA¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 QW55b25lIGNhbiBwcm92aWRlIGFueSBoZWxwIHRvIGhpbT8NCg0KUm9nZXIgUy4NCi0tLS0tIE9y aWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0gDQpGcm9tOiAicG9ja2V0Y2FtIiA8Y2x1YnMtbWFpbEB5YWhv by1pbmMuY29tPg0KVG86IDxyb2dlcl9zaGVhQHlhaG9vLmNvbT4NClNlbnQ6IE1vbmRheSwgSnVu ZSAwNSwgMjAwMCAxOjQ5IEFNDQpTdWJqZWN0OiBJbmZvIFNlbGVjdCBET1Mgb24gMjAwTFggW1lh aG9vISBDbHViczogSFAgMjAwTFggUERBXQ0KDQoNCj4gDQo+IEFueW9uZSB1c2luZyBJbmZvIFNl bGVjdCBvbiB0aGVpciBMWD8NCj4gSSdkIGFwcHJlY2lhdGUgYW55IGFkdmljZSBvbiBnZXR0aW5n IHRoZQ0KPiBjb2xvcnMgc2V0IG9uIHRoZSBMWCBzbyB0aGUgYmFja2dyb3VuZCBpcw0KPiB3aGl0 ZSwgZnJhbWVzIGFyZSBlbGltaW5hdGVkLCBldGMuIFRoYW5rcy4NCj4gDQo+IC0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KPiBETyBOT1QgUkVQTFkgVE8gVEhJ UyBNRVNTQUdFIEJZIEVNQUlMIQ0KPiAtLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0NCj4gWW91IGhhdmUgY2hvc2VuIHRvIHJlY2VpdmUgbWVzc2FnZXMgZnJvbSAi SFAgMjAwTFggUERBIiBieSBlbWFpbC4NCj4gDQo+IFJlcGx5IHRvIHRoaXMgbWVzc2FnZToNCj4g aHR0cDovL2NsdWJzLnlhaG9vLmNvbS9jbHVicy9ocDIwMGx4cGRhL2Jic2ZycD9hY3Rpb249ciZ0 aWQ9aHAyMDBseHBkYSZzaWQ9MTY4Nzc5NjYmbWlkPTMyDQo+IA0KPiBVbnN1YnNjcmliZSBmcm9t IHRoZSBDbHViIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdDoNCj4gaHR0cDovL2NsdWJzLnlhaG9vLmNvbS9jbHVicy9o cDIwMGx4cGRhL2NvbmZpZy9jaGFuZ2VfbWJfbGlzdA0KPiANCj4gUmV0dXJuIHRvICJIUCAyMDBM WCBQREEiOg0KPiBodHRwOi8vY2x1YnMueWFob28uY29tL2NsdWJzL2hwMjAwbHhwZGENCj4gLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KPiANCj4gTm90IGEg bWVtYmVyPyBSZW1vdmUgeW91cnNlbGYgZnJvbSB0aGlzIGxpc3Q6DQo+IGh0dHA6Ly9lZGl0LmNs dWJzLnlhaG9vLmNvbS9jb25maWcvdW5zdWJzY3JpYmVfbWJfbGlzdD8udXNlcklEPXJvZ2VyX3No ZWEmLmdyb3VwSUQ9aHAyMDBseHBkYSYuZ3JvdXBUeXBlPSYuY29kZT13ZUNaT1FkM3NWDQo+IA0K PiANCg0K ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 13:02:33 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Jornada and 24 bit color MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry wrote: >> But if it comes to JPG, everything which is not >> 24-bit results in slow display of these images > > Are you sure about this? While reading about it I got the > impression that software thinks it's using 24 bit color. > If so, it wouldn't do any dithering and things wouldn't > slow down. Let me try to explain it: After software has uncompressed a JPG, it holds 3 bytes for every pixel: one byte red value, one byte green value and one byte blue value. Every byte is in the range of 0-255 which results in 256x256x256=3D16.777.216 colors, which is also called "true color". A 24-bit screen has a screen buffer, where every pixel has 3 bytes assigned. To display the JPG you just have to copy the 3 JPG bytes to the appropriate position in the screen buffer. That's it. On a 16-bit screen, only 2 bytes are assigned to every pixel. The first 5-bit of the first byte represent 32 red values, the next 3 bit of the first byte and the first 2 bit of the second byte represent 32 green values and bit 3 to 7 are reserved for blue. One bit is lost. As you see, you have to map for every color channel 256 values to 32 values and you have to do a lot of bit shifting to fit 3 channels in 2 bytes. An 8-bit screen (256 colors) is organized completely different. The 8-bits for every pixel represent an index into a color palette, where 3 bytes are stored for this specific index. That is, an 8-bit screen can display 256 colors out of 16.777.216 colors. 256 color GIFs have this palette already "on board". You only have to copy it into the screen buffer. But if you want to display a JPG on a 256 color screen, you have to build such a palette for every JPG. I'm not sure, if a 12-bit screen uses a palette with 4096 entries, or if it uses 4 bit for every color. Anyway, to display a JPG on a 12-bit screen you either have to map colors or you have to built a palette. Indeed you are right by stating, that software thinks, it has a 24-bit screen available, because under Windows and WinCE no programmer ever has access to the screen buffer. I never programmed for Windows, but I guess, all you have to do to display a JPG is to tell Windows the name of the file and a position on the screen. All the rest is done in JPEG.DLL or somewhere else. Hence the programmer doesn't need to know the color depth of the screen. But somewhere in the system, the work has to be done. If it's done in Visual C++, you may again be right by stating, that there is no significat slow done, because most of the time is anyway spend in the code overhead ;-) Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:25:27 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MichStocker@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Stocker Subject: Inverse CGA display? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 
Is it possible to invert CGA video when running DOS programs to improve readability of graphics?

Thanks.

Michael
** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:39:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Inverse CGA display? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:36:10 -0400 (EDT) 10m43s ago ... On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Michael Stocker wrote: > Is it possible to invert CGA video when running DOS programs to improve > readability of graphics? Sure. Just hit the ON and / keys at the same time. Later, Peniel ------------ PS A lot of us are reading the HPLX list on our LXs. It's much easier to read without the HTML! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:13:48 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Netware 3.12 connection successful! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello to all, thank you very much all who wrote me for the feedback on my question how to connect to the Novell Network. I found all necessary drivers on the Palmtop net, and after some troubles I succeeded in connecting to our network. The drive mapping works and I can execute all DOS programs. The only problem left is, that I am not able to start the system manager on my HP/LX after having loaded the network drivers. I have about 540 KB free after loading all the network drivers, is this not enough? The message is: Cannot execute 200 I read in the HPLX.NET article about Network cards by Nori, that it was not possible with a HP95 but should be with a 200 LX. Do you have any suggestions? best regards, Werner Thought for the day: Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people that they are right, whether they are or not. -- PGP-Key: http:/www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 16:09:51 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another aspect of the 24-bit color discussion are the new mega pixel cameras. You can buy today a camera with a 1600x1280 resolution, which is called a 2.0 MegaPixel camera, because every picture consists of 1600x1280=3D2.048.000 pixels. The storage format is usually JPEG. If you ever want to see 1 to 1 of what you took as photo, you need a 24-bit screen with a 1600x1280 resolution. Your graphics card must have 1600x1280x3=3D6MB of onboard memory to display one of such JPEGs without loss. Graphics cards with 6MB memory are still not standard, but you already get 4.0 MegaPixel cameras, which need 12MB graphics cards. That is, to every digital camera you need the appropriate computer to display your images. If you only have a 2MB graphics card, a cheaper digital camera below one megapixel would be sufficient, if you only plan to view the pictures on your computer. Let's say, you have a 24-bit screen with 1024x768 pixels, then you have 1024x768x3=3D2.2MB memory on board. The appropriate camera would then be in the 1024x768=3D0.7MegaPixel range, which is below 1 MegaPixel and easy to find in sold-outs. However if you plan to print out your photos, then it depends on the printer's resolution, if you get full advantage of your MegaPixels. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:28:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: 200LX Comments: To: Yujin Nagasawa MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <> Check our web site at www.palmtoppaper.com if you can wait until August and want a free 10 meg card and serial cable with it. hal@thaddeus.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:32:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 16:09:51 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > The storage format is usually JPEG. If you ever want to see > 1 to 1 of what you took as photo, you need a 24-bit screen > with a 1600x1280 resolution. Your graphics card must have > 1600x1280x3=6MB of onboard memory to display one of such JPEGs > without loss. FWIW, my Nikon 2.11 mega pixel camera can store about 8 1600 X 1280 pictures on an 8MB card, if I drop the resolution to VGA I can shoot about 99 pictures per 8MB. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:45:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sat, 3 Jun 2000 09:19:51 -0400, Mark Wallace-Jones wrote: > I have been planning on putting this up on a web-site for a while along > with some experiece I have had of usng the NOKIA 6110 with the palmtop > (using a NOTA-GSM cable) This is interesting. Since the 6110 does not contain a modem I wonder how you could use this for anything more than sms and phonebookmanagment with the Hplx. There are a pc packet (Nokia Cellular Data Suite) for using a 6110 as a modem. > and now with my latest mobile, a Motorola > L7089. Maybe you should consider sending it to Daniel Hertrich. He has a Hplx->cellular phone page on http://daniel.hplx.net Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:43:49 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Problem with Robot/lx & SMS.SCR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 4 Jun 2000 22:52:57 +0200, Tomas Moberg wrote: > When I run Sms.scr from post/lx vith robot/lx I download sms to the > hp200lx ok, but when I try to send a msg I get: > ... > > FGOT 'HELLO' > SEND HELLO > FGOT '' > SEND Hmm The new script that is on the Dasofts server works great with a Nokia 7110. It has been modified to work better with the 7110. Andreas has a 7110. I guess this modifying does not work well with a 8210.. If it is the latest script you have problems with Andreas maybe should take another look at it. The old script worked without problems with a 8810. Have you tried that script? I have used Stefan's Pdu script and it works with the 7110. Stefan has a 8210 so you could use his script to see if you get that to work. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:50:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Netware 3.12 connection successful! In-Reply-To: <393BCC4C.20916.77E400@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > The only problem left is, that I am not able to start the system > manager on my HP/LX after having loaded the network drivers. > I have about 540 KB free after loading all the network drivers, is this > not enough? > The message is: Cannot execute 200 If I try to load the System Manager directly after loading Nori's drivers, I get the same error message. However, I can get SysMan to load if I first load MaxDos with the following line: maxdos -l -e -wf:\ I'm not sure, but I think the -e switch makes the difference. The -wf:\ switch tells MaxDos to use my f: drive for the swap. If you don't have a RAM upgrade, you'll need to use a: or c:. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 18:18:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff wrote: > > The storage format is usually JPEG. If you ever want to see > > 1 to 1 of what you took as photo, you need a 24-bit screen > > with a 1600x1280 resolution. Your graphics card must have > > 1600x1280x3=3D6MB of onboard memory to display one of such JPEGs > > without loss. > > FWIW, my Nikon 2.11 mega pixel camera can store about 8 1600 X 1280 = pictures > on an 8MB card... which means, Nikon only compresses to 1/6 of the original size. This should yield very good quality pictures. If you compress to 1/20 of the original size, you would still see almost no loss of quality, especially if you watch it on a 256 color monitor. Maybe your camera allows to select different compression rates. It's worth trying them out. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 09:41:44 -0700 Reply-To: Ron Zhang Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Zhang Subject: ÝHardware¨ Hood/Shell/Housing for 9M-9M Null Modem Adaptor? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii I made the adaptor myself but couldn't find a hood to bind the thing together. Any idea? Ron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:09:18 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 18:18:41 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > which means, Nikon only compresses to 1/6 of the original size. > This should yield very good quality pictures. If you compress > to 1/20 of the original size, you would still see almost no > loss of quality, especially if you watch it on a 256 color > monitor. Maybe your camera allows to select different compression > rates. It's worth trying them out. Nikon makes an awesome camera. I got mine after borrowing Mack's. You can got to http://www.dixieyouth.com/helena.html to see some of the VGA examples that it took. The nice thing about the Nikon is that it uses compact flash so it's easy to pull out the card, put it in the LX and use your LXPic to view 'em and you can transfer pics from the card to LX freeing up space on the card. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:03:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff wrote: > > Nikon makes an awesome camera. I got mine after borrowing Mack's. You can > got to http://www.dixieyouth.com/helena.html to see some of the VGA examples > that it took. The nice thing about the Nikon is that it uses compact flash > so it's easy to pull out the card, put it in the LX and use your LXPic to > view 'em and you can transfer pics from the card to LX freeing up space on > the card. > > Jeff What's the model number? Sounds like a nice camera... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:09:14 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 2 megapixels sounds like the Coolpix 950, which recently dropped in price with the intro of the 3.3 megapixel 990. Nice manual controls also ... would want one if one of my kids were rich enough to drop $600-$700 on ol' dad . - Longden (who'll settle for a card and another mug ... such is the lot of Dads everywhere) David Ness on 06/05/2000 11:03:39 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to David Ness To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Jeff wrote: > > Nikon makes an awesome camera. I got mine after borrowing Mack's. You can > got to http://www.dixieyouth.com/helena.html to see some of the VGA examples > that it took. The nice thing about the Nikon is that it uses compact flash > so it's easy to pull out the card, put it in the LX and use your LXPic to > view 'em and you can transfer pics from the card to LX freeing up space on > the card. > > Jeff What's the model number? Sounds like a nice camera... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:25:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Comments: To: David Ness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:03:39 -0400, David Ness wrote: > What's the model number? Sounds like a nice camera... It's the Coolpix 800. It does most of what its big brother, the Coolpix 950, does execpt it only has 2X digital zoom and has a few less bells and whistles as far as manual control as the 950. Mack has a 950 which is an awesome camera. I thought about getting one but got a heck of a deal on the 800 at onvia.com I will probably get a 990 within the year if things go as planned. I just had an immediate need and about $500 so I got the 800 which is a spiffy camera with tons of features. I am getting ready to buy a TC-E2 2X telephoto adapter for it which will give me 4X optical zoom :) and can also be used with the 950 or 990. Actually any lens can be used if it has 28mm threads or you use a step-up adapter. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:27:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > > 2 megapixels sounds like the Coolpix 950, which recently dropped in price with > the intro of the 3.3 megapixel 990. > > Nice manual controls also ... would want one if one of my kids were rich enough > to drop $600-$700 on ol' dad . > > - Longden (who'll settle for a card and another mug ... such is the lot of Dads > everywhere) > Your note is a timely reminder that the `be nice to daughter' week shoud start. Of course, the rest of the year I don't pay any attention to her, but now that she is gainfully employed.... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:35:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey, they have that one at Costco also, for about $499. This page has more info on it -> http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/C800/C800A.HTM Does sound like one sweet camera .. even uses 4 AA's so you're LX compatible in a power-pinch . - Longden Jeff on 06/05/2000 11:25:31 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Jeff To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:03:39 -0400, David Ness wrote: > What's the model number? Sounds like a nice camera... It's the Coolpix 800. It does most of what its big brother, the Coolpix 950, does execpt it only has 2X digital zoom and has a few less bells and whistles as far as manual control as the 950. Mack has a 950 which is an awesome camera. I thought about getting one but got a heck of a deal on the 800 at onvia.com I will probably get a 990 within the year if things go as planned. I just had an immediate need and about $500 so I got the 800 which is a spiffy camera with tons of features. I am getting ready to buy a TC-E2 2X telephoto adapter for it which will give me 4X optical zoom :) and can also be used with the 950 or 990. Actually any lens can be used if it has 28mm threads or you use a step-up adapter. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 14:12:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: FLUFF: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras In-Reply-To: <882568F5.00640788.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Longden Loo wrote: > - Longden (who'll settle for a card and another mug ... such is > the lot of Dads everywhere) You get *mugs*!? Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:09:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: FLUFF: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Comments: To: Theodore Heise MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Isn't that the smile yo get from the kid as s/he hands you the card? ;¬) (I'm looking forward to my card from my 3 1/2 year-old...) Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theodore Heise" To: Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 3:12 PM Subject: FLUFF: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras > On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Longden Loo wrote: > > > - Longden (who'll settle for a card and another mug ... such is > > the lot of Dads everywhere) > > You get *mugs*!? > > Ted > > -- > Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA > PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 13:16:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: FLUFF: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Of course, Dads everywhere are more than happy to get smiles, hugs and cards ... tho the card thing does wear a bit with 3 kids (ages 16-21). Remember, you have to keep every one of them (cuz they'll ask) till they're old enough to leave home. Actually, it's not so bad. My middle one made me a complete desktop computer using folded and stapled computer paper when she was about 8. The floppy disk drive (which included the paper diskettes) impressed the hell out of my co-workers. She even threw in the boot up sounds when she "turned it on" . I consider myself a bit luckier than my wife, who has learned to eat homemade Mother's Day breakfast with such aplomb in 21 years. And once they get to teenage, it's actually quite touching if they're still civil enough to say "Happy ...." without a hint of a snarl (hormones, y'know). - Longden (sorry to other non-Dad listers. And if you're NOT a dad, don't forget to say "hey" to yours on the 18th). Ken Hansen on 06/05/2000 12:09:22 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Ken Hansen To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: FLUFF: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Isn't that the smile yo get from the kid as s/he hands you the card? ;¬) (I'm looking forward to my card from my 3 1/2 year-old...) > > - Longden (who'll settle for a card and another mug ... such is > > the lot of Dads everywhere) > > You get *mugs*!? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 15:23:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ian Butler Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <001501bfcbd4$f1480f00$82fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Barry wrote: > I downloaded and I think I tried TP 5.5 that is freely downloadable > at community.borland.com/museum. They have 3 versions there and I > downloaded them all and I'm fairly sure 5.5 was the one I tried out. > It was the latest version. It seemed to work just fine. I don't > really know Pascal. I've only patched a few Pascal programs. So I > didn't really know how to give it a hard test. But other Borland > products of that same era work just fine on the 200lx. I used to have Turbo Pascal 7.0 on my palmtop. Ran just fine, if a little slow. Don't know where you'd get a copy of it unless someone accidentally left it on their web site, though. ian Butler / ian@hplx.net http://peace.hplx.net/ The wise are only special in their ability to articulate wisdom. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 19:36:05 -0400 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: .exm files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've recently downloaded some shareware from the Super site to try. Some of these extract to .exm files instead of .exe files. I admint it's been years since I looked in my LX's manual, but I thought these were just system manager compliant .exe files? I tried to add them to my apps in System manager but when I go to run them I get "bad command or file name". I've tried this with and without using maxdos ? . How do I ue these? I have no problem using .exe files in system manager. TIA. Jim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 17:07:03 -0700 Reply-To: Ron Zhang Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Zhang Subject: ÝWireless¨ Do you pay for data calls? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii My carrier SprintPCS charges data calls differently from voice calls. For those who have a phone with a built-in modem like the Ericsson sh888, do you get charged just like a regular voice call? If it's true, I'll get a different phone (mine is a modem-less Qualcomm). Ron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:43:31 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Don Weatherly Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Weatherly Subject: Re: Partition Utilities In-Reply-To: <001901bfca8f$41e62880$76fd36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've used Partition Magic (v3.0 and 4.0) for over two years and have had no problems. -------- Anyone interested in drive partitioning or boot manager utilities might want to check out-- - Ranish Partition Manager - Advanced Boot Manager At: http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/ http://come.to/ranish ranish@intercom.com Another partition utility is Partition Resizer v. 1.3.3 at http://members.xoom.com/Zeleps/ ------- I've not tested any of these three. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 00:12:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: .exm files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:00:00 -0400 (EDT) 02h24m29s ago ... On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, James Henry wrote: > I've recently downloaded some shareware from the Super site to try. = Some of > these extract to .exm files instead of .exe files. I admint it's been = years > since I looked in my LX's manual, but I thought these were just system > manager compliant .exe files? I tried to add them to my apps in System > manager but when I go to run them I get "bad command or file name". = I've > tried this with and without using maxdos ? . How do I ue these? I = have no > problem using .exe files in system manager. TIA. You're sort-of right. EXMs are system manager compliant files, but not the same as EXEs. They can't be run from DOS (at least without help). If you installed these in the Application Manager, you should be OK (if you enter the correct path). AppMgr will ask you to assign a hotkey for each EXM. If it doesn't, you typed something wrong. Another "gotcha" is that AppMgr can only handle 30-something entries total, and only 8 or 9 can be EXMs. If you want to use a LOT of EXMs, you should get MoreEXM from SUPER. MaxDOS is a wonderful addition to the LX for running memory-hog DOS programs, but does nothing for EXMs. If you're changing the extension from EXM to EXE, it's guaranteed not to work. Enter the name in the AppMgr path line with the complete path and correct extension. HTH Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:48:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: ÝHardware¨ Hood/Shell/Housing for 9M-9M Null Modem Adaptor? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Radio Shack, worst case; Multiple local stores carry these - I could snag one and mail it. Probably $2 if I mail it. Also, http://www.bgmicro.com/, http://www.mouser.com/, http://www.hosfelt.com/, http://www.allelectronics.com/, I can list about 50 more if you're into more electronics shops. http://www.digikey.com/ probably has these - as they charge $5 handling for orders under $25, you may not want to buy from there. Mark Ron Zhang wrote: > I made the adaptor myself but couldn't find a hood to bind the thing > together. Any idea? > > Ron -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 05:08:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Luca Zanetti Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Luca Zanetti Subject: Metastock file Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, I seek a DOS programm for the HP200 to see directly metastock data files. Luca Zanetti. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 06:04:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , surreal@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Wallace-Jones Subject: Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tue, 6 Jun 2000 08:49:52 +0000 (GMT) 18h04m33s ago ... On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 10:45:19 -0400, Martin Bergvill wrote: > > I have been planning on putting this up on a web-site for a while along > > with some experiece I have had of usng the NOKIA 6110 with the palmtop > > (using a NOTA-GSM cable) > > This is interesting. Since the 6110 does not contain a modem I wonder > how you could use this for anything more than sms and > phonebookmanagment with the Hplx. Martin, I made an ill-advised move into the Psion 5MX world and found that everyone was using something called a GSM-Nota cable to connect their 6110s to the Psion 5. After investigating it I found that it was simply a cable with a 6110 connector on one end and a serial connector on the other with a self powered GSM modem housed in a pod halfway along the cable. I managed to find a supplier who would sell me on with a PC serial connector on one end (rather than the weird Psion serial connector). The Robot/LX scripts for SMS needed tweaking as did PDU.COM (Stefan has added a switch which accomodates the Nota-GSM). But the setup worked fine! I was able to connect over ISDN also, send SMS and manipulate the internal address book. I wasn't able to work out how to add entries to the appointment book using AT commands - if anyone does, please let me know. > > There are a pc packet (Nokia Cellular Data Suite) for using a 6110 as a > modem. > > > and now with my latest mobile, a Motorola > > L7089. > > Maybe you should consider sending it to Daniel Hertrich. He has a > Hplx->cellular phone page on http://daniel.hplx.net I will try and send this stuff to Daniel. I am a tad busy at work and so all this stuff has to take a back seat at the moment. The Motorola is very quirky and often requires switching off and on in order to completely reset the modem. It gets into a state where it does not respond to AT commands - this usually occurs after a dropped connection or a time-out or something. It also only works when I have perfect 5 bars signal strength - anything less than that and the phone ups it's output signal strength and the EMI kills the infra-red connection. Still wish my company had given me a 7110 - the tri-band feature of the Motorola L7089 is nice but little used. I would have preferred to have the features of the 7110 instead (WAP, OBEX compatibility, 'proper' phone book, appointment, etc). Cheers Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 06:49:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LEONG Ka Tai Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LEONG Ka Tai Subject: Re: WWW/LX - POST/LX and network Comments: To: "Guenther Helmuth E." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > PDF files are received and converted at: > > PDF-text converter > PDF-html converter > > This service works fast and flawless. Helmuth, Could you elaborate? How does this work? Is it a program or an address where you send the file to and it will convert the file for you? TIA Ka Tai ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:14:39 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: CANON Digital IXUS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those who like small gadgets: CANON announced the world's smallest and lightest digital camera: The credit card sized digital IXUS. The size is 87x57x27mm and it weights 190g. It uses Compact flash cards, has 2.11 MegaPixel and can take 2 images/sec. 2x zoom, USB, Video-out, flash... Price is 1599 DM, which is about $800. Should be already available. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:37:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Slowing down in 12 bits MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<<<<>>>>> My point is that if the software, os and all, thinks that it has a truecolor screen available it won't dither. It'll simply send the 16 bits to the hardware. From what I read that seems to be what's happening. But one component of the hardware is losing some of the bits, resulting in color loss but no overhead for dithering. The screen could display 16 bit color and the hardware the OS talks to can accept 16 bit color. It's described as a 16 bit system with one internal component narrowing the pipe to 12 bits before it gets to the screen, which itself expects 16 bits and probably uses 16 bits to make up the color, with 4 bits being garbage. Possibly consistant garbage, though. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:47:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Null Modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<<<<>>>>>> I went to an electronics supply house that makes custom cables and had a null modem cable built to the exact length I needed. No messy adapter. I think it was $8. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 21:29:52 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: Mega Pixel Digital Cameras Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Monday, 05.06.2000 at 16:09 GMT, Stefan Peichl wrote: > Another aspect of the 24-bit color discussion are the new mega > pixel cameras. You can buy today a camera with a 1600x1280 > resolution, which is called a 2.0 MegaPixel camera, because > every picture consists of 1600x1280=2.048.000 pixels. > > The storage format is usually JPEG. If you ever want to see > 1 to 1 of what you took as photo, you need a 24-bit screen > with a 1600x1280 resolution. Your graphics card must have > 1600x1280x3=6MB of onboard memory to display one of such JPEGs > without loss. > > Graphics cards with 6MB memory are still not standard, but you > already get 4.0 MegaPixel cameras, which need 12MB graphics > cards. > Current state-of-the-art graphic cards such as Creative Labs Annihilator 2 have 32 MB of RAM. As the name might suggest, these cards are mainly made for and used by game enthusiasts. Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:31:33 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@juno.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: WTB: 200LX Comments: To: Yujin Nagasawa MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nagasawa sama I will also accept two 150MB+ flashcards that was on this list. Total $300? That may be the cheeper route for yu if $$$ is a problem. If not, get me four of five :). ===== > o__ Back home on the range > _.>/)_ Pattaya was heaven on earth > (_) \(_) Back to the kold grind Woman, that's warm... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:37:38 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:58:49 -0500 (EST) Hi All: Some of you have noticed a proble with the GlimpseHTTP interface which searches the past year's HPLX-L archives. Unfortunately, GlimpseHTTP is no longer supported. The replacement product, WebGlimpse is not supported on the AIX operating system that the HPLX-L archives reside. - in order to recover some disk space, I have cut back on the HYPERMAIL versions of the individual messages from 12 months to 6 months. - I will continue to keep the logs of all messages. ? Can anyone suggest an alternative to GlimpseHTTP/WebGlimpse that would run on AIX? (I am unfamilier with this platform, and rely on the University Computer Center for support, so far they have not come up with an option) ? I believe WebGlimpse is supported on LINUX. I could keep the Hypermail copies on the AIX machine here, and generate the Glimpse indexes (seems Glimpse is still supported) if someone with a LINUX box could host WebGlimpse...is this possible? - I could possibly move the archives to a Win95/98/... Box here in the Lab if anyone knows of a system that could be implemented on that platform? This would involve collection of messages, indexing of messages & support of the Web interface? - My personal opinion is that the searchable archives are valuable, so far, it has been pretty easy for me to set up and maintain (Thanks to Mitch)... - Do you all still think this service is worth supporting? - Can you suggest any options? Cheers & Thanks for your input! AJKind * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:54:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I agree that the search feature is worth supporting. An archive is worthless if it's not accessible. And more than half that value comes from making the data accessible via intelligent searches. Unfortunately, AIX archival search software isn't my turf, so I can't offer any options. - Longden Al Kind on 06/06/2000 10:37:38 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives - My personal opinion is that the searchable archives are valuable, so far, it has been pretty easy for me to set up and maintain (Thanks to Mitch)... - Do you all still think this service is worth supporting? - Can you suggest any options? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 20:17:21 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: loading 200 after netware drivers In-Reply-To: <20000606040029.863gmx1@mx02.gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello Ted, thank you for the message with maxdos. I will try it as soon I am back in the office. My HP has 8MB Ram, but no drive F as yours does. (is it a Ramdrive?) Do I have to load an EMM-driver? I did not load them until now, because 1) I did not know how to do it 2) I did not know why I need it. best regards, Werner > On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > If I try to load the System Manager directly after loading Nori's > drivers, I get the same error message. However, I can get SysMan > to load if I first load MaxDos with the following line: > > maxdos -l -e -wf:\ > > I'm not sure, but I think the -e switch makes the difference. The > -wf:\ switch tells MaxDos to use my f: drive for the swap. If you > don't have a RAM upgrade, you'll need to use a: or c:. > > Ted > -- http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 13:27:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: loading 200 after netware drivers In-Reply-To: <393D5C51.23903.8D7A0C@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > thank you for the message with maxdos. I will try it as soon I am > back in the office. My HP has 8MB Ram, but no drive F as yours > does. (is it a Ramdrive?) My 200LX is a 32M unit with 32MB c: and 2MB f: and yes, they are both RAM drives. > Do I have to load an EMM-driver? I don't think so. I don't do so in my set up. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 18:38:51 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: Re: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives Comments: To: MCHEM1@uconnvm.uconn.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Searchable archives ARE very valuable. Hope can find a way to keep them (up to a full year would be better). Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 18:58:31 -0400 Reply-To: upstate@pipeline.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harris Subject: Good database programs? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi gang, Can anyone recommend a good database program (i.e. DBMS) for the 200LX? I'd like to write SQL statements against it in C, using my Power C compiler. It looks like there are a few options available on the SUPER site, as follows: - Data Perfect - NODe - PBASE - PC File and maybe a few others. Anyone have any experience with any of these, particularly using C to access them? Thanks! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:01:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: NAsm: Free Assembler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NAsm is at http://www.web-sites.co.uk/nasm/, for those who haven't heard about it. Download off sites like ftp://ftp.us.kernel.org/pub/software/devel/nasm/. Get the impression it's definitely GNUish. If you're looking for a free assembler, might take a look. Looks interesting. Multiple OS's ported to, multiple hardware platforms too. I'll try this later tonight on the 200LX Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 22:59:16 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > ? Can anyone suggest an alternative to GlimpseHTTP/WebGlimpse that > would run on AIX? (I am unfamilier with this platform, and rely on > the University Computer Center for support, so far they have not > come up with an option) Ht://Dig is similar to the glimpse programs in that it has the document excerpting. It does compile and run on AIX but it sounds like it's not always a smooth process. Looking on the webglimpse site though, it sounds like it also works for some people on AIX. > ? I believe WebGlimpse is supported on LINUX. I could keep the > Hypermail copies on the AIX machine here, and generate the Glimpse > indexes (seems Glimpse is still supported) if someone with a LINUX > box could host WebGlimpse...is this possible? So you mean a web site on a linux box running webglimpse using the indexes you create, and the search results point to the files on your server? Seems like it should work. Not sure about the practicality. > - Do you all still think this service is worth supporting? Yes. Personally, I don't think archives are worth much without a search capability. Actually with the problems on your search page, and the one year limit, I started a project recently to create a searchable archive for myself going back to the first log you have, from July 97. The first part, converting the old logs to individual messages files is working fine. I estimate that just the message html files will take up 400mb, +/- 100mb. The second part is to choose the indexing and search engine. I haven't decided yet. The problem with excerpting search engines is that the indexes are huge. A rough guess for htdig would be about 300mb. Right now I'm leaning toward Swish-E. It's fast and works well, but doesn't have the excerpt ability. Search results only include document title, url, size and a ranking, but I think this would be enough. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:09:12 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michelle Honey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michelle Honey Subject: Re: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 13:37 06/06/2000 -0400, you wrote: > Some of you have noticed a proble with the GlimpseHTTP interface > which searches the past year's HPLX-L archives. Unfortunately, > GlimpseHTTP is no longer supported. .............. The HPLX resources are valuable, particularly since the demise of manufacturers support. It would be a great shame to lose such resources. Even if not immediately available, any way of extracting data would be useful. IMHO Craig Honey ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:15:33 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , GARRON GARRON Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: GARRON GARRON Subject: I BUY 95 LX, U WANNA SELL? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed HI, I BUY 95 LX 1 MEG, GOOD NICK. GARRON@HOTMAIL.COM >From: Michelle Honey >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , >Michelle Honey >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives >Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:09:12 +1200 > >At 13:37 06/06/2000 -0400, you wrote: > > > Some of you have noticed a proble with the GlimpseHTTP interface > > which searches the past year's HPLX-L archives. Unfortunately, > > GlimpseHTTP is no longer supported. .............. > >The HPLX resources are valuable, particularly since the demise of >manufacturers support. It would be a great shame to lose such resources. >Even if not immediately available, any way of extracting data would be >useful. IMHO > > > >Craig Honey > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:33:40 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: Re: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives Comments: To: "Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain If the archive is made available on a Win32 server which is permanently connected to the internet(eg. NT) with minimal firewalling, I will be able to supply (write) the necessary ISAPI DLL to allow searching. Alternatively let's wait for Kylix in October then we can go Linux with it. I'm not into Perl or Unix C++ though. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: Longden Loo ÝSMTP:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM¨ > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 7:55 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives > > I agree that the search feature is worth supporting. > > An archive is worthless if it's not accessible. And more than half that > value > comes from making the data accessible via intelligent searches. > > Unfortunately, AIX archival search software isn't my turf, so I can't > offer any > options. > > - Longden > > > > > > > Al Kind on 06/06/2000 10:37:38 AM > > Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please > respond > to MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) > Subject: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives > > > > - My personal opinion is that the searchable archives are valuable, > so far, it has been pretty easy for me to set up and maintain > (Thanks to Mitch)... > > - Do you all still think this service is worth supporting? > > - Can you suggest any options? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 12:58:22 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Slowing down in 12 bits MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry wrote: > ... But one component of the hardware is losing some of the > bits, resulting in color loss but no overhead for dithering. Ah, now I see your point. This means indeed no loss in speed. Let's do some mathematics (permutations): 16-bits represent 65535 colors 12-bits represent 4096 colors 4 bits are lost in hardware and represented 16 colors. Hence all these 16 colors only using these 4 bits are completely lost, whereas those 16 colors out of 65535 which didn't use these 4 bits are unchanged. The remaining 65503 colors are mapped to 4096 colors, which means about 16 shades are mapped to one new color. No good news for smooth color transitions in photos, which will be visible rough color changes without dithering. But if you design an image which only uses the 16 lost colors, you will see a blanc screen on the Jornada but a nice image on any other PC. Don't tell it HP ;-) Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 19:11:37 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dannis Chan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dannis Chan Subject: Need help of making connection with 8210 and WWWLX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I had the wwwlx, post/lx installed and just apply the data service from my mobile service provider. They give me another mobile number for data, they said. I have no idea how I can set it up running. Could anybody give me some step by step instruction on this issue? Dannis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 21:04:42 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000607200912.006daaa8@nznet.gen.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:09 PM 6/7/00 +1200, you wrote: >At 13:37 06/06/2000 -0400, you wrote: > >> Some of you have noticed a proble with the GlimpseHTTP interface >> which searches the past year's HPLX-L archives. Unfortunately, >> GlimpseHTTP is no longer supported. .............. Hi all There is a technology that might be ideal for a new search mechanism. If you are a developer or programmer please look at www.bullant.com and see if it can be used as our new search/support platform/with the LX in some way. Reason is one of the benefits is LOW bandwidth.. Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 13:28:53 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?B?R/xudGhlciBFaXNlbGU=?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?B?R/xudGhlciBFaXNlbGU=?= Subject: Re: Need help of making connection with 8210 and WWWLX In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.0.20000607190812.00a74cf0@pop3.macau.ctm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 07.06.2000, 13:23, you wrote: > I had the wwwlx, post/lx installed and just apply the data service from= my > mobile service provider. They give me another mobile number for data, t= hey > said. I have no idea how I can set it up running. > Could anybody give me some step by step instruction on this issue? maybe you can give us some more details. Which mobile phone do you use? D= o you have a cable between mobile phone and 200lx or do you use irda? First, run wwwsetup and enter all data (and the data phone number you got from your provider like this: ATDT0123456). Choose "External" if you connect via com port (if using Irda, you have to edit the www.cfg manuall= y and change the port=3DX setting in the corresponding section to port=3D-1= ; this means Irda instead of com port or pcmcia). Depending on which mobile phone you're using you have to enable the 'data mode" (maybe it's called fax/data mode, see manual). That's all I had to do (200lx and Siemens S35i). Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 14:13:33 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: partly OT: ECP parallel port under linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I'm very sorry that I steal the bandwidth for this off-topic, but I asked in several newsgroups but didn't get a response. So you are my last hope! Please reply off list if you can offer an idea. The question ist: How can I configure my linux system properly so that it can print to a Canon BJC printer via an ECP parallel port? I had it running until I changed the parallel port setting from EPP to ECP (or EPP+ECP) in te BIOS. I had to change this setting because I installed VMware, which needs an ECP port to let the guest operating sstem print via this port. The printing out of my guest OS Win95 within VMware works very well, only linux isn't able tp print anymore. A few facts that could be helpful: * tunelp /dev/lp0 -s reports status 88, busy, on-line * if I tunelp /dev/lp0 -i 7 to make it use IRQÝ tunelp reports "/dev/lp0: device or resource busy" * Now everytime I boot linux and the printer is on, it feeds a whole page through, when lpd is starting (or was it the bidirectional printer port service of vmware that starts at boot time - I don't know exactly) * every print job is queued in the printer queue, but the printer simply doesn't print. lpq shows all jobs. klpq even reports "lp is ready and printing" I hope that someone can help me - it's very important for me to be able to use the parallel port from both linux and Win95 within VMware, because I have to write reports for my studying with LaTeX AND have to communicate with my parallel port CF reader to make palmtop backups, which doesn't work with linux, but with Win95 within VMware it works well! (So this posting isn't so off-topic! ;-) ) Thanks a lot in advance, daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:47:33 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: CANON Digital IXUS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Here in the USA and Canada, Canon calls it the Powershot S100 Digital Elph and it's something else in the far east (like Digital Ixy). There's a complete review of the camera on Steve's Digicams at http://www.steves-digicams.com/s100.html and another on Digital Photography Review at http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canondigitalixus/. Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:07:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Slowing down in 12 bits MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan Peichl wrote : > > But if you design an image which only uses the 16 lost colors, > you will see a blanc screen on the Jornada but a nice image on > any other PC. Don't tell it HP ;-) Actually I don't care (VBG). I don't use paperweights :-) HP/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:07:20 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Need help of making connection with 8210 and WWWLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dannis, > I had the wwwlx, post/lx installed and just apply the data service from my > mobile service provider. They give me another mobile number for data, they > said. I have no idea how I can set it up running. From the doc's : 4.8 USING THE INFRARED PORT AND IrDA Starting with WWW.EXE version 2.1, WWW/LX supports the built-in infrared port of the palmtop and can talk the IrDA protocol. There is an increasing number of cellular phones with built-in modems that can be used that way. WWW/LX has been tested with the Nokia 8810 (firmware version 4.5 or higher required) and Ericsson SH888. Other phones may work as well. Here is how to set up an IrDA connnection: - Configure a setup entry in WWW.CFG so that "Port=-1" - Set Baud=38400 for a double speed or Baud=19200 for a regular palmtop - Place the phone so that the IR ports face each other - Set the phone to IR mode - Start WWW.EXE Note that the infrared hardware of the palmtop does not seem to be 100% compatible with those of the phones, so there are many transmission errors. The IrDA protocol and some tricks we added to improve error recovery should compensate for that in most cases, but we cannot guarantee that it will always work. --- The data phone number from your provider is the node phone nbr you need to connect to through your setup of WWW. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:38:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: 200lx database for C access MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone recommend a good database program (i.e. DBMS) for the 200LX? I'd >>>>>like to write SQL statements against it in C, using my Power C compiler. It looks like there are a few options available on the SUPER site, as follows: - Data Perfect - NODe - PBASE - PC File and maybe a few others. Anyone have any experience with any of these, particularly using C to access them? <<<<<<<< You might try to find an old copy of the Paradox engine. It's designed especially to be accessed from c programs. I'm pretty sure there were versions that will run on the palmtop. I think I put one on the 100lx at one time and tried accessing it and made it work. It's been several years and I'm not sure it was the Paradox engine I did this with but I'm pretty sure. I think it was version 3.0. I do know it works well in Dos with Turbo C. This is basically the underlying database engine used by Paradox but sold as a seperate product for c programmers. It might be possible to download it somewhere but it will be useless without a manual. I used it for a couple of projects at work about 10 years ago and it was a very nice system. It doesn't use anything like SQL but it is accessed in somewhat the same way that you would access SQL or ODBC from c and it provides similar (but simpler) services. There are also a number of isam and other access methods that can be downloaded from simtelnet and other places that make it easy to build your own database. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 12:57:20 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Need help of making connection with 8210 and WWWLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:07:20 -0400, Hans Peter Staber wrote: > Dannis, > The data phone number from your provider is the node phone nbr you need > to connect to through your setup of WWW. Nah do not think so :-). Here in Norway we have data (outgoing) enabled for every customer with no charge. This is because it has to be like this to make WAP work. I can however subscribe to a special Data plan which will give me cheaper rates AND a Data _Incoming_ number. I can use this number to let somebody else send data _to_ me. But I do not need this to use my 7110(or 8210) with Www/lx for mail/news/data. I just call my ISP's V34 node or isdn node and then connect. On some mobile service providers you have to get data enabled(manually..you call them). This cost either money or not.(In Norway everybody has data enabled without cost). And maybe you have to subscribe to a Data plan which gives you a data in number, but you do not need this number to use 8210/wwww/lx. Follow the instructions Staber quoted and then enable Irda on your phone and then you should be up and running in no time.. Good luck Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 18:05:13 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bill Krauss wrote: > Searchable archives ARE very valuable. Hope can find a way to keep them (up > to a full year would be better). I agree, searchable archives are valuable. That's why I download the monthly Zip files so I can do the searches on my desktop. I keep a full set of the current List as well as the previous list that Mitch used to host. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 15:00:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives Comments: To: "MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How about this: http://pinpoint.netcreations.com/ ? >-----Original Message----- >From: Al Kind Ýmailto:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨ >Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 1:38 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives > > >Tue, 6 Jun 2000 12:58:49 -0500 (EST) > >Hi All: > > Some of you have noticed a proble with the GlimpseHTTP interface > which searches the past year's HPLX-L archives. Unfortunately, > GlimpseHTTP is no longer supported. The replacement > product, WebGlimpse is not supported on the AIX operating system > that the HPLX-L archives reside. > > - in order to recover some disk space, I have cut back on the > HYPERMAIL versions of the individual messages from 12 months to 6 > months. > > - I will continue to keep the logs of all messages. > > ? Can anyone suggest an alternative to GlimpseHTTP/WebGlimpse that > would run on AIX? (I am unfamilier with this platform, and rely on > the University Computer Center for support, so far they have not > come up with an option) > > ? I believe WebGlimpse is supported on LINUX. I could keep the > Hypermail copies on the AIX machine here, and generate the Glimpse > indexes (seems Glimpse is still supported) if someone with a LINUX > box could host WebGlimpse...is this possible? > > - I could possibly move the archives to a Win95/98/... Box here in > the Lab if anyone knows of a system that could be implemented on > that platform? This would involve collection of messages, indexing > of messages & support of the Web interface? > > - My personal opinion is that the searchable archives are valuable, > so far, it has been pretty easy for me to set up and maintain > (Thanks to Mitch)... > > - Do you all still think this service is worth supporting? > > - Can you suggest any options? > > Cheers & Thanks for your input! > > AJKind >* >* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA >* Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 16:44:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Need help of making connection with 8210 and WWWLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > On Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:07:20 -0400, Hans Peter Staber wrote: > > > Dannis, > > > The data phone number from your provider is the node phone nbr you need > > to connect to through your setup of WWW. > > Nah do not think so :-). Here in Norway we have data (outgoing) enabled > for every customer with no charge. This is because it has to be like > this to make WAP work. Martin and Dannis, here we go trying to be global without being global (g). I have a 8810 and 3 different ISP's. With the 8810 I connect to CIS, where the landline and the mobile phone node are the same Netway, where there are different landline and mobile phone data nodes and A1Net, where again there are different landline and mobile phone data nodes. Dannis : You need to setup as per instruction and choose the phone number of your ISP which enables data transfer to/from your mobile phone. Thats it :-) HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:00:05 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: More Robot/lx script questions. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andreas Garzotto wrote: > Tomas Moberg wrote: > > way to do it or is there a way to get Robot/lx interpret vt100? > > You might want to start telnet from within ROBOT/LX using > ! telnet local That worked. But now I dont get any capture in Post/lx inbox. Any ideas? /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:51:20 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Where is everybody?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Hello ... Hello?? Is the list down? Or is everyone out celebrating Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson's ruling against Micro$haft? Later, Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:24:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Where is everybody?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:21:58 -0500 (EST) I'm still here ;-) Cheers...AJKind 29m22s ....>> in the future <<.... On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Peniel Romanelli wrote: > Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:46:37 -0400 (EDT) > > Hello ... Hello?? > > Is the list down? Or is everyone out celebrating Judge Thomas Penfield > Jackson's ruling against Micro$haft? > > Later, > > Peniel > ------------ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:45:14 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dannis Chan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dannis Chan Subject: Re: Need help of making connection with 8210 and WWWLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all your input, now I success to get my mail through my nokia 8210 and post/lx. It seems I just have the 9600 baud connection. Does anyone who could connect in a higher transfer rate? or it depends on my network service provider? Dannis ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans Peter Staber To: Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 4:44 AM Subject: Re: Need help of making connection with 8210 and WWWLX > > > > On Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:07:20 -0400, Hans Peter Staber wrote: > > > > > Dannis, > > > > > The data phone number from your provider is the node phone nbr you need > > > to connect to through your setup of WWW. > > > > Nah do not think so :-). Here in Norway we have data (outgoing) enabled > > for every customer with no charge. This is because it has to be like > > this to make WAP work. > > Martin and Dannis, > > here we go trying to be global without being global (g). > > I have a 8810 and 3 different ISP's. With the 8810 I connect to > CIS, where the landline and the mobile phone node are the same > Netway, where there are different landline and mobile phone data nodes > and A1Net, where again there are different landline and mobile phone > data nodes. > > Dannis : You need to setup as per instruction and choose the phone > number of your ISP which enables data transfer to/from your mobile > phone. Thats it :-) > > > HP Staber/Salzburg > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 01:55:34 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: 200LX serial cable question Message-Id: <20000608055534.YFDP9011.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.154.71¨> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 05:55:38 +0000 I have a desktop that has a laplink serial cable coming out of the back (very inconvenient to access), and I need that cable to connect the desktop with a laptop. However, I can no longer connect with the 200LX since I can't reach behind to swap cables. My question: is there a connector, or combination of connectors, that'll let me connect the HP serial cable to the desktop via a laplink cable? Thanks for any suggestions. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 02:10:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > > Message-Id: <20000608055534.YFDP9011.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.154.71¨> > Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 05:55:38 +0000 > > I have a desktop that has a laplink serial cable coming out of the back > (very inconvenient to access), and I need that cable to connect the desktop > with a laptop. > > However, I can no longer connect with the 200LX since I can't reach behind > to swap cables. > > My question: is there a connector, or combination of connectors, that'll > let me connect the HP serial cable to the desktop via a laplink cable? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > - Longden > I'm afraid `Laplink serial cable' doesn't mean much to me. Do you mean a serial cable with a DB9? If so then I would think that some combination of gender changer connector and null-modem connector would do the trick to let you use the standard HP serial cable... Also, you might consider a switch-box, for simple things like serial connectors and ethernet connectors they tend to be pretty cheap... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:30:35 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Slowing down in 12 bits MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, while discussing things like these, I got the idea to ask you graphics specialists a question that treated me for a long time now: Under linux, I have to start the X-Server with 15bpp colors, in order for the TV card to work properly. If I use 16bit or 24bit or 32bit color, the TV picture looks terrible (totally false colors). Under Windows I have configured the graphic to 24 bit (also tried 16 bit) and the colours are always okay. Does someone know what the reason could be? It's not a real problem for me, because 15bit colours is still a reasonable color depth, as long as you don't have to do professional graphics. But I'd be interested in the reason. GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:30:37 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: statistics about list usage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, are there any statistics about how many postings per day are sent to the list? It would be interesting to see when there are more list messages and when there are less.... I noticed that a few days ago, I got nearly 100 messages per day, but the next day, there were only 10 or 20 messages per day. GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 10:26:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question Comments: To: David Ness In-Reply-To: <393F38CD.9F6E26A3@Home.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > I have a desktop that has a laplink serial cable coming out of the > > back (very inconvenient to access), and I need that cable to connect > > the desktop with a laptop. > > > > However, I can no longer connect with the 200LX since I can't reach > > behind to swap cables. > > > > My question: is there a connector, or combination of connectors, > > that'll let me connect the HP serial cable to the desktop via a > > laplink cable? > > > I'm afraid `Laplink serial cable' doesn't mean much to me. Do you mean > a serial cable with a DB9? If so then I would think that some > combination of gender changer connector and null-modem connector would > do the trick to let you use the standard HP serial cable... > > Also, you might consider a switch-box, for simple things like serial > connectors and ethernet connectors they tend to be pretty cheap... I guess my hardware ignorance will show here. I had assumed that serial cables used with LapLink software were so commonplace that I could escape any technical description of the wiring. Or at least that someone intimately familiar with LapLink would know what the heck I was talking about. Frankly I don't know how a "LapLink" serial cable differs in pin wiring (if at all) from a "serial cable with a DB9". The LapLink cable is supposed to connect two computers via their 9 pin serial ports (this cable is supposedly also used for gaming between two connected computers), so both ends terminate with a female end with nine holes (is that called a DB9?). Right now, my HP serial cable connects to my pocket modem via a gender-bender and a null modem connector ... but when I move this arrangement of connectors from my modem to the LapLink cable, there's no communication (that I can see). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:02:22 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Where is everybody?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I'm still here ;-) > > Cheers...AJKind I am here too. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:24:10 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Axel Klag Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Klag Subject: DIGEST-Ion Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Avi, maybe stupid to ask again, but I did the same as Timothy wrote: > Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:30:35 -0500 > From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" > Subject: Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)? >> Tony Wrote: >> Tim, put ExplodeDigest=1 in your HPLX-L email box section in POST/LX >> and the digest is > automatically exploded into mesasages as it is >> downloaded! > Hi Tony, All, > I recently added that, under the Ýmail¨ section in my .cfg file and > waited for a digest to arrive in the mail. Have downloaded several and it > doesn't work. I've got Post/LX 2.2g, and You now recommended: > see http://www.dasoft.com/WWW/newfeat.htm scroll to the following... > POST.EXE version 2.2f > Updated February 12, 2000 > Here are some of the new features and fixes: > Ý...¨ > ExplodeDigest=1 in a box section of POST.CFG makes digests > encoded as MIME-type multipart/digest to be split into > individual messages during download. What now is meant with "Box Section" of Post.cfg, what is the exact name of that section? As said, I put it in the ÝMAIL¨ section, but it does'nt work. Sorry again for the maybe stupid question! Thanks & regards, Axel ************************************************************* Mail * klag@dwelle.de ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 06:36:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: Re: Where is everybody?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:51:20 -0400 From: Peniel Romanelli I am not celebrating. While I am no particular fan of Microsoft, my opinion is that this is more a case of the government picking winners & losers than about anti competitive practices. A similar case against IBM years ago amounted to nothing. I don't think you can argue that AT&T breakup is analogous either, as they were more of regulated utility. There are choices other than Microsoft Windows out there (I use Linux because it is free**) with as good functionality - the advantage of Windows was simply its market depth - it effectively gave us interoperable computer standards through that penetration. I think I'll send Bill Gates a copy of "Atlas Shrugged." Who is John Galt? ** Had to grin the other night. I was recompiling a Linux Kernel while playing solitaire and downloading some software - with out a hiccup. ----------REPLY SEPERATOR------------ Hello ... Hello?? Is the list down? Or is everyone out celebrating Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson's ruling against Micro$haft? Later, Peniel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:49:38 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Axel Klag Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Klag Subject: ExplodeDigest does not work MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Avi, maybe stupid to ask again, but I did the same as Timothy wrote: > Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 09:30:35 -0500 > From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" > Subject: Re: DIGEST-ion (ways to handle digests)? >> Tony Wrote: >> Tim, put ExplodeDigest=1 in your HPLX-L email box section in POST/LX >> and the digest is > automatically exploded into mesasages as it is >> downloaded! > Hi Tony, All, > I recently added that, under the Ýmail¨ section in my .cfg file and > waited for a digest to arrive in the mail. Have downloaded several and it > doesn't work. I've got Post/LX 2.2g, and You now recommended: > see http://www.dasoft.com/WWW/newfeat.htm scroll to the following... > POST.EXE version 2.2f > Updated February 12, 2000 > Here are some of the new features and fixes: > Ý...¨ > ExplodeDigest=1 in a box section of POST.CFG makes digests > encoded as MIME-type multipart/digest to be split into > individual messages during download. What now is meant with "Box Section" of Post.cfg, what is the exact name of that section? As said, I put it in the ÝMAIL¨ section, but it does'nt work. Sorry again for the maybe stupid question! Thanks & regards, Axel ************************************************************* Mail * klag@dwelle.de ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:11:43 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ahzilly@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: DIGEST-Ion Comments: To: Axel Klag MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > What now is meant with "Box Section" of Post.cfg, what is the exact = name > of that section? As said, I put it in the ÝMAIL¨ section, but it = does'nt > work. Sorry again for the maybe stupid question! Axel, ÝMail¨ is a mailbox section header. You may have other mailboxes in POST.CFG with names of your own choice. Other types of POST/LX "boxes" are newsgroups and Folders, and X-boxes used by ROBOT/LX. If you have only the one mailbox then putting ExplodeDigest=3D1 in the ÝMail¨ section should take care of the HPLX-L digest. All I can suggest is double check everything. Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:18:22 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Need help of making connection with 8210 and WWWLX Comments: To: Dannis Chan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dannis Chan wrote: > Thanks for all your input, now I success to get my mail through my = nokia > 8210 and post/lx. It seems I just have the 9600 baud connection. Does = anyone > who could connect in a higher transfer rate? or it depends on my = network > service provider? it depends on your GSM service provider. I can use 14400 with mine. Try ModemInit=3DAT&F+CBST=3D14 and watch the connect speed which WWW reports. Maybe, you cannot connect at all with this ModemInit string. Then fall back to what you used before. My experiences with 14400 connections are two-edged. Sometimes I have the feeling, they are slower than 9600. AFAIK uses GSM a less accurate error recovery to achive 14400. That means, you only get the advantage of 14400 on good connections (strong signal) Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 07:28:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: Where is everybody?? In-Reply-To: <200006080451.AAA24403@moon.web2000.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm here Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:46:23 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Axel Klag Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Axel Klag Subject: Re: DIGEST-Ion Comments: To: ahzilly@cs.com In-Reply-To: <200006081108.NAA16336@vivaldi.dwelle.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Tony, thanks, I think I got it now. I created a new folder "HPDigest", set a filter on , ponting to the new folder "HPDigest", moved "ExplodeDigest=1" to the new section ÝHPDigest¨ concerning my new folder and will now see, if that works. (I have to wait for beeing at home, because I've no PPP-Possibility at my work). Thank You & Regards, Axel ************************************************************* DW-tv * HF-Studio Berlin * www.dwelle.de * 49-(0)30-4646-7020 Mail * klag@dwelle.de On Thu, 8 Jun 2000 ahzilly@cs.com wrote: > > What now is meant with "Box Section" of Post.cfg, what is the exact name > > of that section? As said, I put it in the ÝMAIL¨ section, but it does'nt > > work. Sorry again for the maybe stupid question! > > Axel, ÝMail¨ is a mailbox section header. You may have other mailboxes > in POST.CFG with names of your own choice. > > Other types of POST/LX "boxes" are newsgroups and Folders, and X-boxes > used by ROBOT/LX. > > If you have only the one mailbox then putting ExplodeDigest=1 in the > ÝMail¨ section should take care of the HPLX-L digest. All I can > suggest is double check everything. > > Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:12:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , FRiC Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: FRiC Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question Comments: To: LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <393E236E.13804.AAAF0B6@localhost> from Longden Loo at "Jun 7, 2000 10:26:54 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I guess my hardware ignorance will show here. I had assumed that > serial cables used with LapLink software were so commonplace > that I could escape any technical description of the wiring. Or at > least that someone intimately familiar with LapLink would know > what the heck I was talking about. They're more commonly known as null-modem cables. The HP serial cable is also a null-modem cable, but of course it comes with the special connector for the 200LX. To connect the two together you'll need to put another null-modem between the two cables. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:23:59 -0400 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: Re: .exm files Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli In-Reply-To: <200006060412.AAA21277@moon.web2000.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks. Unfortunately I haven't solved this. I am within the limits for .exm's and total apps yet when I go to run qxpense.exm I get "bad command or file name". Does anyone know if this will run with the 200LX Doublespeed 8MB? Thanks. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Peniel Romanelli > Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 12:12 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: .exm files > > > Mon, 5 Jun 2000 22:00:00 -0400 (EDT) > > 02h24m29s ago ... > On Mon, 5 Jun 2000, James Henry wrote: > > > I've recently downloaded some shareware from the Super site > to try. Some of > > these extract to .exm files instead of .exe files. I admint > it's been years > > since I looked in my LX's manual, but I thought these were > just system > > manager compliant .exe files? I tried to add them to my > apps in System > > manager but when I go to run them I get "bad command or > file name". I've > > tried this with and without using maxdos ? . How do I ue > these? I have no > > problem using .exe files in system manager. TIA. > > You're sort-of right. EXMs are system manager compliant > files, but not > the same as EXEs. They can't be run from DOS (at least without help). > If you installed these in the Application Manager, you should > be OK (if > you enter the correct path). AppMgr will ask you to assign a hotkey > for each EXM. If it doesn't, you typed something wrong. Another > "gotcha" is that AppMgr can only handle 30-something entries > total, and > only 8 or 9 can be EXMs. If you want to use a LOT of EXMs, you should > get MoreEXM from SUPER. MaxDOS is a wonderful addition to the LX for > running memory-hog DOS programs, but does nothing for EXMs. > > If you're changing the extension from EXM to EXE, it's guaranteed not > to work. Enter the name in the AppMgr path line with the > complete path > and correct extension. > > > HTH > > Peniel > ------------ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:33:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: .exm files Comments: To: jhenry@comcastwork.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:16:52 -0400 (EDT) 54m32s ago ... On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, James Henry wrote: > Thanks. Unfortunately I haven't solved this. I am within the limits for > .exm's and total apps yet when I go to run qxpense.exm I get "bad = command or > file name". Does anyone know if this will run with the 200LX Doublespee= d > 8MB? Thanks. Sorry my first post didn't help... Since things still aren't right, could you post a fairly detailed account of what procedure you're using? Also how are you launching the problem apps? The more we know, the more educated our guesses will be 8-) The normal EXM (or other) installation works fine on any of the upgraded machines, so that's NOT the source of the problem. (Mine is the same as yours 8M 2x). If nothing works, the solution may be to delete the appmgr.dat file. The LX will create a new one with only the built-in apps. Then rebuild your setup. (Last resort only if all else fails.) Later, Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:13:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Need help of making connection with 8210 and WWWLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dannis, > Thanks for all your input, now I success to get my mail through my nokia > 8210 and post/lx. It seems I just have the 9600 baud connection. Does anyone > who could connect in a higher transfer rate? or it depends on my network > service provider? It's your providers network. Be adviced also that sometimes the network is overloaded. So although you have a working setup you will not connect. This the needs patience and you have to try again later :-) HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 07:19:01 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Steven (Casey) Karp" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Steven (Casey) Karp" Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question Comments: To: LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <393E236E.13804.AAAF0B6@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, you wrote at 10:26 AM 6/7/00 -0700 >Right now, my HP serial cable connects to my pocket modem via >a gender-bender and a null modem connector ... but when I move >this arrangement of connectors from my modem to the LapLink >cable, there's no communication (that I can see). Drop the null modem connector when you connect to the LapLink cable. It's already a null modem cable. (I tried to come up with a pun about nulls, but it's just too early in the morning. Sorry.) S. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:27:03 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A laplink cable crosses pins 2&3, Tx & Rx. I have an extra HP serial cable permanently hooked to my desktop ready to use anytime I need it. A strait DB9M-DB9F hooked to the HP cable should avoid an extra null modem or laplink cable, but haven't tried it. Bob Longden Loo wrote: > > My question: is there a connector, or combination of connectors, that'll > let me connect the HP serial cable to the desktop via a laplink cable? > -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:31:40 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Slowing down in 12 bits Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Must be that the 15 bit and 16 bit color are the same depth (lose one bit in the 16 bit color), the bit arrangement is different. Linux does not put the bits in the proper order for the card. That's just a guess. Bob Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > Hi friends, > > while discussing things like these, I got the idea to ask you graphics > specialists a question that treated me for a long time now: > > Under linux, I have to start the X-Server with 15bpp colors, in order > for the TV card to work properly. If I use 16bit or 24bit or 32bit color, > the TV picture looks terrible (totally false colors). > > Under Windows I have configured the graphic to 24 bit (also tried 16 > bit) and the colours are always okay. > > Does someone know what the reason could be? It's not a real problem for > me, because 15bit colours is still a reasonable color depth, as long as > you don't have to do professional graphics. But I'd be interested in > the reason. > > GTX > daniel > > -- > > Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de > homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net > telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 17:19:01 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Giampi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Giampi Subject: GdbWin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit News about Gdbwin? gi@mpi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:20:34 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Travelingtutor@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Gilbert Subject: (no subject) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of a good program that will mark bad sectors on the 200LX? I have a suspicion that I have at least one bad sector on my a: drive. Thanks! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:35:03 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF: Where is everybody?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm in total agreement with you. I'm no fan of microsoft but I think the government's action was too extreme. I remember the days when IBM was the 800lb gorilla and they were a much worse Gorilla than M$ ever was. MS products are not the greatest but heir not that bad. They pretty much work as intended. I have to reboot my windows box every few days. Big deal, I go take a piss and when I'm back it's done. IBM used to make you buy their crap and it sucked. They didn't even attempt to make their stuff compatible with everything else. MS at least tries to adopt industry standards. They just do a shitty job. I think that the judgment was good except for the splitup. The limnitations imposed by the ruling that take place in 90 days are good: CONDUCT REMEDIES Unless Microsoft can get another judge to get in the way, these remedies take effect in September. They tell Microsoft how to behave in the months ahead while the case is on appeal. It can't threaten or do anything to harm competing products, such as withholding licensing terms, sales or technical support. It can't force computer makers to take other Microsoft products as a condition of licensing Windows. It can't force manufacturers to agree to promote, distribute or use Microsoft products. It must provide the same licensing terms to all manufacturers. In 5 years, the whole market can change and MS won't be the dominant player it once was. Just like IBM is today. I think that other countries must laugh at us. We have the largest software company in the world and we try to destroy it. MS should change their corporate headquarters to Japan. They like big strong companies that dominate markets and screw everybody. They destroyed our electronics and steel industry and almost destroyed our automobile industry. They did it through superior product but they also engaged in predatory pricing. Sony used to sell TVs here at a loss just so they could wipe out the competitors. Today, Sony is a great brand name but is also more expensive than most others. Who is John Gault, indeed!!! >-----Original Message----- >From: Brian McIlvaine Ýmailto:Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM¨ >Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 6:36 AM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Where is everybody?? > > >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:51:20 -0400 >From: Peniel Romanelli >I am not celebrating. While I am no particular fan of >Microsoft, my opinion is >that this is more a case of the government picking winners & >losers than about >anti competitive practices. A similar case against IBM years >ago amounted to >nothing. I don't think you can argue that AT&T breakup is >analogous either, as >they were more of regulated utility. There are choices other >than Microsoft >Windows out there (I use Linux because it is free**) with as >good functionality >- the advantage of Windows was simply its market depth - it >effectively gave us >interoperable computer standards through that penetration. > >I think I'll send Bill Gates a copy of "Atlas Shrugged." Who >is John Galt? > >** Had to grin the other night. I was recompiling a Linux >Kernel while playing >solitaire and downloading some software - with out a hiccup. > >----------REPLY SEPERATOR------------ >Hello ... Hello?? > >Is the list down? Or is everyone out celebrating Judge Thomas Penfield >Jackson's ruling against Micro$haft? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 09:48:38 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I guess my hardware ignorance will show here. I had assumed that > > serial cables used with LapLink software were so commonplace > > that I could escape any technical description of the wiring. Or at > > least that someone intimately familiar with LapLink would know > > what the heck I was talking about. > > They're more commonly known as null-modem cables. The HP serial > cable is also a null-modem cable, but of course it comes with the > special connector for the 200LX. > > To connect the two together you'll need to put another null-modem > between the two cables. Hmmm, I thought I'd tried that already. I normally plug my 200LX via the HP serial cable to a Zoom pocket modem (Mac model) and that requires a null modem and a gender bender. I unhooked them from the modem and connected to the Laplink cable: 200LX -> HP serial cable / gender-bender / null-modem / Laplink cable -> desktop and this didn't seem to work. Lister Mark Willis also mentioned making a custom connector, and I may go with that if all else fails. Thanks to all .. and thanks Mark for pointing out that the wiring details are documented in DOS HELP for INTERLNK (under NOTES). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:37:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Nasm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>NAsm is at http://www.web-sites.co.uk/nasm/, for those who haven't heard about it. Download off sites like ftp://ftp.us.kernel.org/pub/software/devel/nasm/. Get the impression it's definitely GNUish. If you're looking for a free assembler, might take a look. Looks interesting. Multiple OS's ported to, multiple hardware platforms too. I'll try this later tonight on the 200LX <<<<<< It's not hard to find new and old versions of Masm and even old versions of Tasm on the web now. Masm is legal to download from the microsoft site. It requires a huge download of some sdk to get an old version of Masm that's included with it. Old versions of Tasm are all over the web but they're not legal. The big advantage of Masm/Tasm is that it uses the standard format. 99% of the source code available for download works on it. Most tutorials, books and references refer to it. And basically it's the standard. While I've heard good things about Nasm and suspect that it's format is probably more rational than Masm's format, it's very non-standard, most downloaded source code has to be modified, often considerably and there is, I believe, only one tutorial and no books or quick references that refer to it's format. Also no symbolic debuggers, while Symdeb can be used nicely with Masm or Tasm on the palmtop. Unless you know what you're doing or have a special need, I strongly suggest using Masm or Tasm. And if you use Tasm, avoid Ideal mode for exactly the same reasons. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:41:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > > Hmmm, I thought I'd tried that already. I normally plug my 200LX via the HP > serial cable to a Zoom pocket modem (Mac model) and that requires a null modem > and a gender bender. I unhooked them from the modem and connected to the > Laplink cable: > > 200LX -> HP serial cable / gender-bender / null-modem / Laplink cable -> > desktop > > and this didn't seem to work. > > Lister Mark Willis also mentioned making a custom connector, and I may go with > that if all else fails. Thanks to all .. and thanks Mark for pointing out that > the wiring details are documented in DOS HELP for INTERLNK (under NOTES). > > - Longden > Because of the very early distinction between `Data Terminal' and `Data Communications' Equipment, I can safely say that I _never_ predict whether a null modem will be needed in any particular hookup. When in doubt I always carry spare gender changers (of both kinds) _and_ a null modem connector--- then I can always try every combination. Since the usual rules apply, it is _always_ the last combination that you try that will be the one that works... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:44:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ Comments: To: Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brian McIlvaine wrote: > > Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:51:20 -0400 > From: Peniel Romanelli > I am not celebrating. While I am no particular fan of Microsoft, my opinion is > that this is more a case of the government picking winners & losers than about > anti competitive practices. A similar case against IBM years ago amounted to > nothing. I don't think you can argue that AT&T breakup is analogous either, as > they were more of regulated utility. There are choices other than Microsoft > Windows out there (I use Linux because it is free**) with as good functionality > - the advantage of Windows was simply its market depth - it effectively gave us > interoperable computer standards through that penetration. > > I think I'll send Bill Gates a copy of "Atlas Shrugged." Who is John Galt? > I guess I disagree. I don't know of a more textbook example of `anti-competitive' practices than Microsoft's insistence that manufacturer's bundle Windows into their hardware offerings. Until _very_ rececently it was impossible to buy a computer `naked' from a major manufacturer. While you could have Linux, you had to pay for Windows anyway---and if the manufacturer didn't comply, they couldn't sell Windows on _any_ machine, a clear recipe for competitive disaster, and IMO, the very essence of anti-competitive behavior. Indeed, for a while some manufacturers were _prevented_ from delivering their machines with _any_ OS other than Windows, even if they paid for Windows but wanted to deliver Linux instead. And Microsoft's decision to `sell' Explorer for $0 was also _clearly_ designed to ruin Netscape (it succeeded). So, regardless of whether any of this is good or bad for ultimate consumers, it does strike me as a paradigm example of anti-competitive practice. I guess I can imagine taking the position that anti-competitive practce that happens to benefit (in the short run) the consumer should be allowed. I don't, but I could imagine taking such a position. What I can't imagine, I guess, is arguing that Microsoft didn't behanve in an anti-competitive manner. I think Judge Jackson has found correct and appropriate fact. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:56:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: 16 bit color vs 12 bit color MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Careful with the math :) The problem is worse that you state. 65536 colors with 16 bits - 4096 colors with 12 bits -------- 61440 unrepresentable colors They can't all be represented by the same color. They're probably represented by various of the 4096 colors, or by all the 4096 colors cycled over and over. It depends on which bits are lost. It's entirely possible that the arrangement of colors and the bits lost are such that the replacement colors will work out ok, resulting in a dithered effect even though no dithering will take place. Or maybe there will be blank areas or wrong colors, but if so, the problem would probably have been found long ago. Barry > Let's do some mathematics (permutations): > > 16-bits represent 65535 colors > 12-bits represent 4096 colors > > 4 bits are lost in hardware and represented 16 colors. Hence > all these 16 colors only using these 4 bits are completely lost, > whereas those 16 colors out of 65535 which didn't use these > 4 bits are unchanged. The remaining 65503 colors are mapped > to 4096 colors, which means about 16 shades are mapped to one > new color. No good news for smooth color transitions in photos, > which will be visible rough color changes without dithering. > > But if you design an image which only uses the 16 lost colors, > you will see a blanc screen on the Jornada but a nice image on > any other PC. Don't tell it HP ;-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:58:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ Comments: To: David Ness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So I wonder, why bothering with the whole "splitting"? Why not rather just make the anti-competitive _practices_ illegal instead? Why not just tell MS that they just can't tell manufacturer that it's an all or nothing? And besides, why can't the manufacturers sell windows bundled if they want, regardless of what MS says? Or even install it separately as a service? What am I missing here? Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: David Ness To: Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 10:44 AM Subject: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ > Brian McIlvaine wrote: > > > > Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:51:20 -0400 > > From: Peniel Romanelli > > I am not celebrating. While I am no particular fan of Microsoft, my opinion is > > that this is more a case of the government picking winners & losers than about > > anti competitive practices. A similar case against IBM years ago amounted to > > nothing. I don't think you can argue that AT&T breakup is analogous either, as > > they were more of regulated utility. There are choices other than Microsoft > > Windows out there (I use Linux because it is free**) with as good functionality > > - the advantage of Windows was simply its market depth - it effectively gave us > > interoperable computer standards through that penetration. > > > > I think I'll send Bill Gates a copy of "Atlas Shrugged." Who is John Galt? > > > > I guess I disagree. I don't know of a more textbook example of > `anti-competitive' practices than Microsoft's insistence that manufacturer's > bundle Windows into their hardware offerings. Until _very_ rececently it was > impossible to buy a computer `naked' from a major manufacturer. While you could > have Linux, you had to pay for Windows anyway---and if the manufacturer didn't > comply, they couldn't sell Windows on _any_ machine, a clear recipe for > competitive disaster, and IMO, the very essence of anti-competitive behavior. > Indeed, for a while some manufacturers were _prevented_ from delivering their > machines with _any_ OS other than Windows, even if they paid for Windows but > wanted to deliver Linux instead. > > And Microsoft's decision to `sell' Explorer for $0 was also _clearly_ designed > to ruin Netscape (it succeeded). So, regardless of whether any of this is > good or bad for ultimate consumers, it does strike me as a paradigm example > of anti-competitive practice. > > I guess I can imagine taking the position that anti-competitive practce that > happens to benefit (in the short run) the consumer should be allowed. I don't, > but I could imagine taking such a position. What I can't imagine, I guess, is > arguing that Microsoft didn't behanve in an anti-competitive manner. I think > Judge Jackson has found correct and appropriate fact. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:44:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fryday wrote: > > So I wonder, why bothering with the whole "splitting"? Why not rather just make > the anti-competitive _practices_ illegal instead? Why not just tell MS that they > just can't tell manufacturer that it's an all or nothing? And besides, why can't > the manufacturers sell windows bundled if they want, regardless of what MS says? > Or even install it separately as a service? > > What am I missing here? > > Philippe > A few things, apparently. The practices _are_ illegal. Microsoft just goes ahead and does them anyway. That's Jackson's point (among others). The law says they can't do what they regularly do (IMO). If you don't follow MS rules, they sue you. Do you have the deep pockets to handle a suit from Microsoft? (If so, how about lending _me_ some money). Try going against them. They'll clobber you --- and that's the whole point... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:04:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , qman@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Quinton Jones, Jr." Subject: Re: Where is everybody?? Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli Roll Call! Qman present and accounted for. (;0) Hey whats Up Peniel! ----Original Message----- >From: Peniel Romanelli >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU >Subject: Where is everybody?? >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List ,Peniel Romanelli >Date: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 9:51 PM > >Wed, 7 Jun 2000 22:46:37 -0400 (EDT) > >Hello ... Hello?? > >Is the list down? Or is everyone out celebrating Judge Thomas Penfield >Jackson's ruling against Micro$haft? > > >Later, > >Peniel >------------ > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:54:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ Comments: To: David Ness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, so if they sue you, they sue you about what? What's preventing, for example, companies from selling their PCs with no OS, then buying Win98 from say Egghead.Com and then installing it on that PC for their customers? Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: David Ness To: HPLX Mailing List ; Fryday Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 11:44 AM Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ > Fryday wrote: > > > > So I wonder, why bothering with the whole "splitting"? Why not rather just make > > the anti-competitive _practices_ illegal instead? Why not just tell MS that they > > just can't tell manufacturer that it's an all or nothing? And besides, why can't > > the manufacturers sell windows bundled if they want, regardless of what MS says? > > Or even install it separately as a service? > > > > What am I missing here? > > > > Philippe > > > > A few things, apparently. > > The practices _are_ illegal. Microsoft just goes ahead and does them anyway. > That's Jackson's point (among others). > > The law says they can't do what they regularly do (IMO). If you don't follow > MS rules, they sue you. Do you have the deep pockets to handle a suit from > Microsoft? (If so, how about lending _me_ some money). > > Try going against them. They'll clobber you --- and that's the whole point... > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 14:08:36 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ Comments: To: David Ness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's very screwed. Can you say "frivolous lawsuit"? Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: David Ness To: Fryday Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:56 PM Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ > Fryday wrote: > > > > Okay, so if they sue you, they sue you about what? > > > > Doesn't matter. You're bankrupted just defending yourself regardless... > > > > > What's preventing, for example, companies from selling their PCs with no OS, > > then buying Win98 from say Egghead.Com and then installing it on that PC for > > their customers? > > > > Philippe > > > > That's what little local shops always did. You can see from their enormous > financial success how well they tended to fare... Almost all of them are > bankrupt by now. > > The large companies were coerced into not doing this by Microsoft, that's > the point of the lawsuit... > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:24:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , qman@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Quinton Jones, Jr." Subject: Re: (no subject) Comments: To: Travelingtutor@CS.COM Yea! If I'm not mistaken Scandisk should work. HTH Regards, Qman... ----Original Message----- >From: Jim Gilbert >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU >Subject: (no subject) >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Travelingtutor@CS.COM >Date: Thursday, June 08, 2000 8:20 AM > > Does anyone know of a good program that will mark bad sectors on the 200LX? >I have a suspicion that I have at least one bad sector on my a: drive. Thanks! > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 17:38:23 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fryday wrote: > > That's very screwed. > > Can you say "frivolous lawsuit"? > > Philippe > Believe me, if Microsoft is willing to invest a few hundred K$, much less a few M$, there is no way that _anyone_ would find the lawsuit frivolous. Virtually _every_ business enganges in enough complex activity that it is possible bring suit against them for something that is plausible enough to avoid any chance of being held `frivolous'. Read the `contract' you assented to the last time you opened a piece of software or clicked `I agree' on a download---I guarrantee you that there's at least a plausible case that you have broken some provision of that contract, and that---at some very considerable cost---you could be forced to defend yourself should the software supplier decide to take off against you. Of course, they won't unless they have some interest in sticking it to you... Which, again, is the point... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:05:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Ness wrote: Fryday wrote: > > Okay, so if they sue you, they sue you about what? > Doesn't matter. You're bankrupted just defending yourself regardless... > > What's preventing, for example, companies from selling their PCs with no OS, > then buying Win98 from say Egghead.Com and then installing it on that PC for > their customers? > > Philippe > That's what little local shops always did. You can see from their enormous financial success how well they tended to fare... Almost all of them are bankrupt by now. The large companies were coerced into not doing this by Microsoft, that's the point of the lawsuit... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:07:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit eugarps@att.net wrote: > > David, > > With that line of reasoning, why shouldn't the Fed call > fro the break-up of Autodesk (makers of AutoCAD)? Don't know. Probably they should, but when there are big fish to catch, I'm not surprised if no one is out hunting minnows... > Their practice is to buy out folks like Generic CADD and fire > the Generic CADD, fire the developers, and discontinue > the product line. Predatory capitalism at it's ugly > best! Until last year their *.DWG file format was > proprietary and not in the least backward compatable. > Each time they brought out a newer version, it made the > old one obsolete. Now I can't save release 12 files > with relaese 2000 software. That might not seem like a > big deal but R12 is only about 6 (plus) years old. The > package, like Wondoze, is bloated and requires far too > much memory and mass storage to do what it does. > > Conversely, Generic CAD was a simple, elegant package > that will even run on my HP 200LX. > > End of rant.... > > Bill Your point sounds well taken to me. If I worked for DoJ maybe it would be worth looking into, but (happily) I don't so I can't help you. You do make a good case, though, that Autodesk is practicing the same kind of `product innovation' that Microsoft seems to be so proud of. I do think we have gotten both sanguine and greedy about predatory business practices. I am concerned, but not surprised, that more than half of the arguments I hear about the possibility of an MS split are by my friends that are MS shareholders---apparently many of them are quite happy about shoddy business practices so long as they, or their pension funds, profit from them. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 17:13:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: FLUFF: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ In-Reply-To: <39401914.1CCEE10B@Home.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, David Ness wrote: > eugarps@att.net wrote: > > > > David, > > > > With that line of reasoning, why shouldn't the Fed call > > fro the break-up of Autodesk (makers of AutoCAD)? > > Don't know. Probably they should, but when there are big fish to catch, > I'm not surprised if no one is out hunting minnows... It may have something to do with the generality of the product. AutoCAD is pretty specialized--not nearly the broad market that operating systems garner. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 17:45:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lamaide@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John LaMaide Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the simplest solution would be to replace the existing Laplink cable with a DB9 male to DB9 female serial extension cable. I put one on COM 1 of my PC last year and now I can connect the 200LX, digital camera, Dex glucose meter, a laplink cable or any serial product anytime I feel the need. Best of luck whatever you decide to do. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 00:01:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: FYI: pcAnywhere DOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just in case anyone else is interested, I recently purchased the latest version (9.2) of pcAnywhere. The CD contains versions for Win 2000, 98/95, NT, 3.1 and DOS. Despite falling within the minimum spec listed on the box (I thinkÝ*¨), when I tried to run the DOS version (5.0) on the 200, it reported "this program requires a 286 processor". I didn't buy it for the HP so I'm not too disappointed. Ý*¨ The box said "requires IBM PC/AT or compatible". Does this imply a 286? ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 00:01:43 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Where is everybody?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Brian McIlvaine wrote with regard to Microsoft's recent tribulations: > I think I'll send Bill Gates a copy of "Atlas Shrugged." Who is John = Galt? Explanation for the ignorant please? BTW, I'd let him buy his own copy ;-) ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:09:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: pcAnywhere DOS In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, The PC/AT was a 286 at its inception Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Chris Randle Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 8:02 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: FYI: pcAnywhere DOS Just in case anyone else is interested, I recently purchased the latest version (9.2) of pcAnywhere. The CD contains versions for Win 2000, 98/95, NT, 3.1 and DOS. Despite falling within the minimum spec listed on the box (I thinkÝ*¨), when I tried to run the DOS version (5.0) on the 200, it reported "this program requires a 286 processor". I didn't buy it for the HP so I'm not too disappointed. Ý*¨ The box said "requires IBM PC/AT or compatible". Does this imply a 286? ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:46:34 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question >> Hmmm, I thought I'd tried that already. I normally plug my 200LX >>via the HP serial cable to a Zoom pocket modem (Mac model) and >>that requires a null modem and a gender bender. I unhooked them >>from the modem and connected to the Laplink cable: >> 200LX -> HP serial cable / gender-bender / null-modem / >>Laplink cable -> desktop >> and this didn't seem to work. Message-Id: <20000609004634.IVKZ9011.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.57¨> Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 00:46:40 +0000 >Because of the very early distinction between `Data Terminal' and >`Data Communications' Equipment, I can safely say that I _never_ >predict whether a null modem will be needed in any particular >hookup. When in doubt I always carry spare gender changers (of both >kinds) _and_ a null modem connector--- then I can always try every >combination. >Since the usual rules apply, it is _always_ the last combination >that you try that will be the one that works... And how true. Only in my case it went all the way around. After reading FRiC's explanation, when I got home I tried my original arrangment again ( as FRiC described and as shown in my note above.... and this time it worked! Actually, there were some errors and so I tried the Laplink cable by itself using a laptop-desktop connect and the errors persisted at high speeds ... so my first problems may have been the consequence of trying to tranfer too fast on a flaky cable (my son's gaming cable ... you don't know where it's been ). Tranfer seems fine at 57600 ... should do until I replace the cable later. Thanks again all. So I guess the HP serial cable and a Laplink cable are both null modems and cancel each other out unless another null modem fits in between. Double-negatives confused me in English 101 too. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:52:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Graphics under linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>Under linux, I have to start the X-Server with 15bpp colors, in order for the TV card to work properly. If I use 16bit or 24bit or 32bit color, the TV picture looks terrible (totally false colors).<<<<<< First I better explain that I'm not a graphics expert. I've been dabbling in graphics for a while but usually I'm trying to figure out what the experts are talking about. And I know very little about linux and less about X. I've never heard of 15bpp. Are you sure that's what it really is? I didn't even know graphics cards were capable of 15bpp. Could it somehow really be a 0 based 16? Bit 0 - 15 would be 16 pixels. I don't think that sounds very likely but I really can't think of anything else. I'm curious to know more about this too. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 03:13:32 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Graphics under linux In-Reply-To: <000501bfd1ac$fb0a4e80$43fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Barry wrote: > I've never heard of 15bpp. Are you sure that's what it really is? > I didn't even know graphics cards were capable of 15bpp. Could it > somehow really be a 0 based 16? Bit 0 - 15 would be 16 pixels. 15bpp is not uncommon, at least not on slightly older cards. My old Cirrus Logic Vesa Localbus card could run in 15bpp, 32k colours. Anyhow, this discussion is getting fairly off topic and should probably be continued elsewhere... Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:25:58 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is what was tried in 1993. The oft reported "consent decree". Fryday wrote: > > So I wonder, why bothering with the whole "splitting"? Why not rather just make > the anti-competitive _practices_ illegal instead? Why not just tell MS that they > just can't tell manufacturer that it's an all or nothing? And besides, why can't > the manufacturers sell windows bundled if they want, regardless of what MS says? > Or even install it separately as a service? > > What am I missing here? > > Philippe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Ness > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 10:44 AM > Subject: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ > > > Brian McIlvaine wrote: > > > > > > Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:51:20 -0400 > > > From: Peniel Romanelli > > > I am not celebrating. While I am no particular fan of Microsoft, my opinion > is > > > that this is more a case of the government picking winners & losers than > about > > > anti competitive practices. A similar case against IBM years ago amounted to > > > nothing. I don't think you can argue that AT&T breakup is analogous either, > as > > > they were more of regulated utility. There are choices other than Microsoft > > > Windows out there (I use Linux because it is free**) with as good > functionality > > > - the advantage of Windows was simply its market depth - it effectively gave > us > > > interoperable computer standards through that penetration. > > > > > > I think I'll send Bill Gates a copy of "Atlas Shrugged." Who is John Galt? > > > > > > > I guess I disagree. I don't know of a more textbook example of > > `anti-competitive' practices than Microsoft's insistence that manufacturer's > > bundle Windows into their hardware offerings. Until _very_ rececently it was > > impossible to buy a computer `naked' from a major manufacturer. While you > could > > have Linux, you had to pay for Windows anyway---and if the manufacturer didn't > > comply, they couldn't sell Windows on _any_ machine, a clear recipe for > > competitive disaster, and IMO, the very essence of anti-competitive behavior. > > Indeed, for a while some manufacturers were _prevented_ from delivering their > > machines with _any_ OS other than Windows, even if they paid for Windows but > > wanted to deliver Linux instead. > > > > And Microsoft's decision to `sell' Explorer for $0 was also _clearly_ designed > > to ruin Netscape (it succeeded). So, regardless of whether any of this is > > good or bad for ultimate consumers, it does strike me as a paradigm example > > of anti-competitive practice. > > > > I guess I can imagine taking the position that anti-competitive practce that > > happens to benefit (in the short run) the consumer should be allowed. I don't, > > but I could imagine taking such a position. What I can't imagine, I guess, is > > arguing that Microsoft didn't behanve in an anti-competitive manner. I think > > Judge Jackson has found correct and appropriate fact. > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- Patrick West pgp 2.6.2 key fingerprint = 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:30:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Laplink cable, etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>Frankly I don't know how a "LapLink" serial cable differs in pin wiring (if at all) from a "serial cable with a DB9". The LapLink cable is supposed to connect two computers via their 9 pin serial ports (this cable is supposedly also used for gaming between two connected computers), so both ends terminate with a female end with nine holes (is that called a DB9?). >> Right now, my HP serial cable connects to my pocket modem via a gender-bender and a null modem connector ... but when I move this arrangement of connectors from my modem to the LapLink cable, there's no communication (that I can see).<<<<< I don't really understand your problem either but maybe I can help you understand how cables work. First, there are two types of equipment that a cable connects to. One is DCE or Data Communications Equipment. A modem, for example. The other is DTE or Data Terminal Equipment. A computer, for example. The main difference in the two is the location of the send and receive data line. On a DTE device, data is transmitted on pin 2 and received on pin 3. On DCE data is received on pin 2 and transmitted on pin 3. So, when you connect a cable from a computer (DTE) to a modem (DCE) a straight through cable is used and it connects the computer transmit pin to the modem receive pin and the computer receive pin to the modem transmit pin. It all works out. But if you connect two computers, both DTE with a straight through cable you'll connect the transmit pins on both computers to each other and both receive pins to each other. Obviously that won't work. Transmit and receive need to be connected to their opposites. So a null modem is used. All that does is cross the lines going to pins 2 and 3 so that receive connects to transmit going both ways. When you connect your desktop computer to you 200lx, thats DTE to DTE so the usual HP cable is a null modem cable. The Laplink cable connects 2 computers so it's also a null modem cable. No adapter, but lines 2 and 3 are crossed internally. Now if you run that cable from a computer to a modem it won't work without a null modem adapter which essentially converts it to a straight through cable by re-reversing lines 2 and 3. Playing around with these combinations can get complicated if you don't think it through, but that's really all there is to it. If you understand the above, you should be able to figure out what cable does what and what you need in a given situation. Something I always try to do, even if it means buying extra cables or getting custom cables made (cheaper than buying them, sometimes) is to avoid using adapters if possible, and if I do have to, to use as few as possible. I'll rig whatever I have to for the short term but then if it's going to stay that way I'll try to get one cable to replace a combination. Just because in the long run there are fewer poblems that way. A lot very knowledgeable people don't do this. But it's my habit and I think it's a good one. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:37:49 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: FS: PC Anywhere 5.0 for DOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------15FE50B54192721559AF47D4" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------15FE50B54192721559AF47D4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For Sale: PC Anywhere 5.0 for DOS. It's on 3.5" diskettes, in box with manual, etc. I would like to get $10 (US) for it. THIS SOFTWARE REQUIRES A 286 OR ABOVE PROCESSSOR, SO IT WILL *NOT* RUN ON THE HP 200LX. Please add $5 shipping and handling costs (shipping via USPS Priority Mail, including insurance and tracking). CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES ONLY, PLEASE Thanks. Richard Smith --------------15FE50B54192721559AF47D4 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="rsmith.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rsmith.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Orion On-Site Computer Services adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:rsmith@enol.com note;quoted-printable:aka, on eBay: seronac=0D=0A*=0D=0A"You're where you are because of who you are. But who you are is not as important as who you become."*=0D=0A"If variety is the spice of life, then humor is the dessert." * =0D=0A"Statistically, at least half of the people in the world are of below-average intelligence." * fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------15FE50B54192721559AF47D4-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 01:36:49 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Marking Bad Sector(s) Comments: To: Travelingtutor@CS.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jim Gilbert wrote: > Does anyone know of a good program that will mark bad sectors on the 200LX? > I have a suspicion that I have at least one bad sector on my a: drive. Thanks! Norton Utilities. cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:41:21 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: FS: Lotus Magellan Manuals MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EC28C80C6A0635354EA2078A" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EC28C80C6A0635354EA2078A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For Sale: Lotus Magellan manuals only (includes 3.5" and 5.25" diskettes of the software, since you can download it for free). Still in shrink wrap. I would like to get $10 for it. Please add $5 shipping and handling costs (shipping via USPS Priority Mail, including insurance and tracking). CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES ONLY, PLEASE Thanks. Richard Smith --------------EC28C80C6A0635354EA2078A Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="rsmith.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rsmith.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Orion On-Site Computer Services adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:rsmith@enol.com note;quoted-printable:aka, on eBay: seronac=0D=0A*=0D=0A"You're where you are because of who you are. But who you are is not as important as who you become."*=0D=0A"If variety is the spice of life, then humor is the dessert." * =0D=0A"Statistically, at least half of the people in the world are of below-average intelligence." * fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------EC28C80C6A0635354EA2078A-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:48:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Microsoft MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>I am not celebrating. While I am no particular fan of Microsoft, my opinion is that this is more a case of the government picking winners & losers than about anti competitive practices. A similar case against IBM years ago amounted to nothing. I don't think you can argue that AT&T breakup is analogous either, as they were more of regulated utility. There are choices other than Microsoft Windows out there (I use Linux because it is free**) with as good functionality - the advantage of Windows was simply its market depth - it effectively gave us interoperable computer standards through that penetration.<<<<< I really think this has been a very strange series of events. I think if Bill Gates had gone to court and said "We've been doing some things wrong and I'd like to have a chance to do things a little better", there might have been a different outcome. But I think Gates was totally convinced that he was in the right and expected everyone to realize it eventually, so he just said he hadn't done anythng wrong. And the Judge took that as arrogance and got mad. Not that I think there are no issues. There are. Microsoft has abused their power. Worse, they've been doing their best to kill standards they don't own. But I don't think the issues decided this. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:55:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Bad sector MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> Does anyone know of a good program that will mark bad sectors on the 200LX? I have a suspicion that I have at least one bad sector on my a: drive. Thanks!<<< I don't know what your A: drive is but if it's a Sandisk card you might try wear.exe. Have you tried reformatting? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:04:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: The last one you try, works MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>Since the usual rules apply, it is _always_ the last combination that you try that will be the one that works...<<<< Why would you try another one when that one worked? :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:10:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Anti-competitive practices MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>Until _very_ rececently it was impossible to buy a computer `naked' from a major manufacturer. While you could have Linux, you had to pay for Windows anyway---and if the manufacturer didn't comply, they couldn't sell Windows on _any_ machine, a clear recipe for competitive disaster, and IMO, the very essence of anti-competitive behavior.<<<<<<< That problem seems t have been solved now. IBM, some time ago, anounced that linux will be offered on their servers and a few laptops. Today, Compaq, Dell and Gateway joinly announced they will be offering linux to their customers on most models. All four companies will be offering 24/7 linux support. IBM already is. Hopefully they'll suggest Windows for new users and do things like make a linux recovery disk for those who use linux. That really might be pretty nice. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:12:33 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >200LX -> HP serial cable / gender-bender / null-modem / Laplink >cable -> >desktop > >and this didn't seem to work. In theory, the above should work, as there are three null-modems in the above connection, including the HP serial cable and the Laplink cable. The standard connection is HP serial cable to COM port which by itself is a null-modem connection. Did you check that the connection speed at both the desktop and palmtop are the same? Try lowering the speed to 19200 bps and if it is working, then increase the speed upwards in steps. Also check that the pins in the various cables and connectors are not bent or missing. Sometimes too many nulls spoil the broth. :-) A better solution may be to connect a standard serial cable to the desktop's COM port, and you can then connect your various devices to this extension of the COM port without having to reach to the back of your desktop each time you want to switch devices. I use a A/B/C/D box to switch between my various devices. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:18:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Windows optional MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>What's preventing, for example, companies from selling their PCs with no OS, then buying Win98 from say Egghead.Com and then installing it on that PC for their customers?<<<< The OEM version of windows from Microsoft is much cheaper than the version we buy from Egghead. It also only includes minimal support from Microsoft. The manufacturer provides the rest of the support along with computer support. That helps the manufacturer sell computers because they support them and it helps keep the prices low because windows costs so little. I had the option of buying my current computer without Win98 for a $50 savings and I'm sure part of that $50 they charged me for Windows was profit. I'd be surprised if it cost them more than $25. One problem that'll come from breaking up MS is that they OS company won't have any interest in pushing the OS at a low price to help their application sales. I suspect that if they're broken up, Windows will get a lot more expensive. By the way, has anyone heard which company would be doing the language products? I've heard that there'll be the OS part and the part that does everything else, but it really would be bad if the OS company didn't make the development systems. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:24:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Licenses you open MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>Read the `contract' you assented to the last time you opened a piece of software or clicked `I agree' on a download---I guarrantee you that there's at least a plausible case that you have broken some provision of that contract, and that---at some very considerable cost---you could be forced to defend yourself should the software supplier decide to take off against you.<<<<<< Those licenses where you break the seal to open the pack have been found invalid in court again and again. I'm sure that it would be considered frivolous by now. In order for a contract to be valid there has to be an opportunity for negotiation and to suggest changes in the terms. There is no such opportunity on those labels and it's not a valid contract. At this point they're put there as information and as a scare tactic. But they're totally unenforcable. The terms of the license might in fact be what that label says they are, but you haven't legally agreed to them. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:39:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Who is John Galt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I think I'll send Bill Gates a copy of "Atlas Shrugged." Who is John = > Galt? > > Explanation for the ignorant please? > BTW, I'd let him buy his own copy ;-) I doubt that there's any way to explain the question "Who is John Galt" if you haven't read "Atlas Shrugged". It's a huge book, occasionally pretty preachy, but it's still a very fine novel. I suggest reading it. Everyone should know "Who is John Galt". Or better, read "The Fountainhead". It won't help with John Galt but it's a far better book, possibly a great bit of literature, and has precisely the same point of view. With either book, be prepared to go through a very right wing, self important and self centered phase of your life. You'll find yourself suspicious that Newt is a left wing radical. I will give you one hint, though. John Galt had his motto emblazened in concrete above his door: "I swear by my life that I will never live one second of my life for anyone else or ask anyone to live one second of their life for me". Sweet guy. :) One of the best of the books heros (and he was one of the heros) was Ragnar Dagenschold who had stolen a destroyer from the Navy and then had become a notorious pirate. But he would never steal the product of honest hard working people. He only stole grain given as charity and shipped to feed the starving. Kind of a reverse Robin Hood. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 22:49:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: The last one you try, works MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 8 Jun 2000 22:26:06 -0500 (EST) Ever notice how things lost are ALWAYS in the LAST place you look ;-) Cheers...AJK 01h21m51s ago ... On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Barry wrote: > >>>>Since the usual rules apply, it is _always_ the last combination > that you try > that will be the one that works...<<<< > > Why would you try another one when that one worked? :) > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:53:30 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: .exm files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:23:59 -0400 >From: James Henry >Subject: Re: .exm files > >Thanks. Unfortunately I haven't solved this. I am within the limits for >.exm's and total apps yet when I go to run qxpense.exm I get "bad command or >file name". Does anyone know if this will run with the 200LX Doublespeed >8MB? Thanks. I have just downloaded and installed the qxpense.exm in my 200LX 4mb without any problem. I transferred just the .exm file to my c:\bin directory of the palmtop (the other files in the zipped package appear to be source codes). My "Edit an Application" screen is as follows:- Name: Qxpense Path: c:\bin\qxpense.exm Key Assignment: Shift+F1 (the setup will ask you to choose one) Comments: (left blank) Icon: (the program did not come with any, so can leave blank or use the built-in ones) I think in your case, your path is defined wrongly, or there is a spelling error or punctuation mistake somewhere; hence the "bad command or file name". ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:06:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Need ATA Driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I recently acquired a Practical Peripheral Viper 340mb PCMCIA type III ATA hard disk without the setup/install disk. Does anyone happen to have one they can zip up and email to me? Practical Peripherals is out of business so I have to search elsewhere. Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks. Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA Email: bc@chisp.net website: www.chisp.net/~bc =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- DOS e-mail -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 20:19:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: WTD: An extra controller card, anyone? Comments: To: Multiple recipients of list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking for an ISA controller card. Nothing fancy, just one place to plug a HD and boot a controller-less motherboard. E-mail me privately if you have something. Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:01:53 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Ness wrote: > Longden Loo wrote: > > Hmmm, I thought I'd tried that already. I normally plug my 200LX via the HP > > serial cable to a Zoom pocket modem (Mac model) and that requires a null modem > > and a gender bender. I unhooked them from the modem and connected to the > > Laplink cable: > > > > 200LX -> HP serial cable / gender-bender / null-modem / Laplink cable -> > > desktop > > > > and this didn't seem to work. > > > > Lister Mark Willis also mentioned making a custom connector, and I may go with > > that if all else fails. Thanks to all .. and thanks Mark for pointing out that > > the wiring details are documented in DOS HELP for INTERLNK (under NOTES). > > > > - Longden > > > > Because of the very early distinction between `Data Terminal' and `Data > Communications' Equipment, I can safely say that I _never_ predict whether a > null modem will be needed in any particular hookup. When in doubt I always > carry spare gender changers (of both kinds) _and_ a null modem connector--- > then I can always try every combination. > > Since the usual rules apply, it is _always_ the last combination that you try > that will be the one that works... Too darn true! I think I've seen more different null modem cables than I ever want to see again, sure some of you feel the same way In the case of 3 null modems in a row, if just one's missing that one critical pin, you're out of luck. I may make a 1' or shorter "HP to 'normal' serial Port" cable for people wanting one, then you could do as he needed to do, treat the HP as a regular laptop. That'd be nice. Maybe I can make that really small, too, more like an adapter. Hmmm... One company I contracted at (IQ Technologies) used to make a really neat widget. You'd plug 2 serial cables into it (had 25-pin male and female connectors and 9-pin male and females as well IIRC) on opposite sides. It'd sit there and play with both sides and usually figure out how to connect side "a" to side "b" properly, then display a diagram or text on the LCD panel of the machine to tell you what to do to make a proper cable. Man, Wish I had one of those. Debating making one (it'd be a great Scenix or Atmel project, frankly.) Though I'd probably just make it a 9-pin part, as I mostly use 9-pin cabling nowadays. (Can still ask the engineer I knew from there how they did that, too. Hmmm...) Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:07:53 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: Bad sector MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > >>> Does anyone know of a good program that will mark bad sectors on > the 200LX? > I have a suspicion that I have at least one bad sector on my a: > drive. Thanks!<<< > > I don't know what your A: drive is but if it's a Sandisk card you > might try wear.exe. > > Have you tried reformatting? > > Barry Where does one find Wear.Exe? It's not on SUPER, and I know if it's on Sandisk's site it's well hidden (I've been all over that place for 3 days trying to solve a problem that needs fixed a week ago ) URL, please, if possible! Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 04:07:58 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Where is everybody?? Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hello ... Hello?? > > Is the list down? Or is everyone out celebrating Judge Thomas Penfield > Jackson's ruling against Micro$haft? Maybe the price of a hamburger here in Seattle will finally drop in price!!! (G) As you might expect, our newspapers are giving this very big coverage as are the tv stations. Losses in the Billions!!! Not me - I never had thousands, even! No shares of M$. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 04:08:00 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I have a desktop that has a laplink serial cable coming out of the back > (very inconvenient to access), and I need that cable to connect the desktop > with a laptop. The logic of the laplink cable, I believe, is the same as the hp cable. It is merely a null modem cable. You will have to undo that with a null modem and find size 9-25 pin adapters and/or gender changers, too. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:11:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: FYI: pcAnywhere DOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes - the PC and XT were 8088 machines; The AT was a 286, then they started coming out with PS/2 designations that made no sense whatsoever to mortal humans So the program was "within it's rights" to harass you, for once Mark Chris Randle wrote: > Just in case anyone else is interested, I recently purchased > the latest version (9.2) of pcAnywhere. The CD contains > versions for Win 2000, 98/95, NT, 3.1 and DOS. > > Despite falling within the minimum spec listed on the box (I > thinkÝ*¨), when I tried to run the DOS version (5.0) on the > 200, it reported "this program requires a 286 processor". > > I didn't buy it for the HP so I'm not too disappointed. > > Ý*¨ The box said "requires IBM PC/AT or compatible". Does this > imply a 286? > > ---------- > > Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 21:30:01 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Give you an example. One huge mining company with hugely deep pockets, ended up talking a personal friend of my father's, into signing an exploration contract on his land (where he knew there was a quite huge bunch of gold in sandstone - an unusual chemistry, but can be processed quite safely without cyanide etc. - I was lined up to do the security planning and implementation and control computers for the mining and processing company that would have processed this ore, so I know more than I want to know about this one.) Terms of the contract included that they had to pay him some low $$ amount a month, plus 0 percent of any samples they extracted, and they got to do with the samples as they wished. He figured that meant they'd tell him how large his strike was, and then leave. They're still "exploring" the claim now, many many months later, his land's sitting over a huge underground cavity in the ground, as are his neighbors' homes; they've probably say a billion dollars out of the hole - and he's maybe $100k richer. He could sue them, they have infinitely deep pockets (and could bribe etc.), he'd likely lose as he'd run out of money, and then get stuck for their say 10 million dollar legal bill. Fair? Hell no. SOP in business, sometimes yes, sadly. His lawyer misled him... I really wish he hadn't signed, I would've made a lot of money and those homes above that gaping cavity in the ground wouldn't be falling into the hole in years to come (Would have instead been bought out and the whole place made safe in the future before selling the land later, or some other far more ethical solution.) And the owner would have been extremely rich by now... He's not a very happy man, but at least he can eat still... Doncha just HATE it when jerks won one? Mark Fryday wrote: > > That's very screwed. > > Can you say "frivolous lawsuit"? > > Philippe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Ness > To: Fryday > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:56 PM > Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ > > > Fryday wrote: > > > > > > Okay, so if they sue you, they sue you about what? > > > > > > > Doesn't matter. You're bankrupted just defending yourself regardless... > > > > > > > > What's preventing, for example, companies from selling their PCs with no OS, > > > then buying Win98 from say Egghead.Com and then installing it on that PC for > > > their customers? > > > > > > Philippe > > > > > > > That's what little local shops always did. You can see from their enormous > > financial success how well they tended to fare... Almost all of them are > > bankrupt by now. > > > > The large companies were coerced into not doing this by Microsoft, that's > > the point of the lawsuit... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 00:31:25 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Where is everybody?? Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Randle wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Brian McIlvaine wrote with regard to > Microsoft's recent tribulations: > > > I think I'll send Bill Gates a copy of "Atlas Shrugged." Who is John Galt? > > Explanation for the ignorant please? > BTW, I'd let him buy his own copy ;-) > > ---------- > > Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) > John Galt is a sort of `mythical' character in Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. `Who is John Galt? is a catchphrase from the novel. Rand also wrote `The Fountainhead', a passable book made into a good movie by King Vidor. It starred Gary Cooper and Patricia Neal. Rumor has it their notorious affair started during the filming of the movie. Rand extols the virtues of well-informed self interest. She seems to believe that society works best if we all diligently pursue our own interests. Rand tends to have a lot of followers among Sophomores in College. Some remain fans forever, but the number of `the faithful' tends to decline, IME, as maturity sets in... If you are under 20, and haven't done so, I'd recommend reading her stuff. If you're not, I think I'd suggest using the time for Shakespeare instead. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 06:17:04 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Where is everybody?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Is the list down? Or is everyone out celebrating Judge Thomas Penfield >Jackson's ruling against Micro$haft? shhhht... we're having affairs with HP's latest WIN-CE masterpieces :) while i'm here, can anyone tell me why PalEdit is such a memory guzzler, and how can it be run _and_ leave at least 100k for file editing? LW editor with spell checker leaves me 480k with maxdos, but PalEdit only leaves 34k cheers Nathalie "Jealousy is all the fun you think they have." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 22:40:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ Comments: To: Mark Willis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ouch! That really sucks! Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Willis To: Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 9:30 PM Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ > Give you an example. > > One huge mining company with hugely deep pockets, ended up talking a > personal friend of my father's, into signing an exploration contract on > his land (where he knew there was a quite huge bunch of gold in > sandstone - an unusual chemistry, but can be processed quite safely > without cyanide etc. - I was lined up to do the security planning and > implementation and control computers for the mining and processing > company that would have processed this ore, so I know more than I want > to know about this one.) > > Terms of the contract included that they had to pay him some low $$ > amount a month, plus 0 percent of any samples they extracted, and they > got to do with the samples as they wished. He figured that meant they'd > tell him how large his strike was, and then leave. > > They're still "exploring" the claim now, many many months later, his > land's sitting over a huge underground cavity in the ground, as are his > neighbors' homes; they've probably say a billion dollars out of the > hole - and he's maybe $100k richer. He could sue them, they have > infinitely deep pockets (and could bribe etc.), he'd likely lose as he'd > run out of money, and then get stuck for their say 10 million dollar > legal bill. > > Fair? Hell no. SOP in business, sometimes yes, sadly. His lawyer > misled him... > > I really wish he hadn't signed, I would've made a lot of money and those > homes above that gaping cavity in the ground wouldn't be falling into > the hole in years to come (Would have instead been bought out and the > whole place made safe in the future before selling the land later, or > some other far more ethical solution.) > > And the owner would have been extremely rich by now... He's not a very > happy man, but at least he can eat still... > > Doncha just HATE it when jerks won one? > > Mark > > Fryday wrote: > > > > That's very screwed. > > > > Can you say "frivolous lawsuit"? > > > > Philippe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: David Ness > > To: Fryday > > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 1:56 PM > > Subject: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ > > > > > Fryday wrote: > > > > > > > > Okay, so if they sue you, they sue you about what? > > > > > > > > > > Doesn't matter. You're bankrupted just defending yourself regardless... > > > > > > > > > > > What's preventing, for example, companies from selling their PCs with no OS, > > > > then buying Win98 from say Egghead.Com and then installing it on that PC for > > > > their customers? > > > > > > > > Philippe > > > > > > > > > > That's what little local shops always did. You can see from their enormous > > > financial success how well they tended to fare... Almost all of them are > > > bankrupt by now. > > > > > > The large companies were coerced into not doing this by Microsoft, that's > > > the point of the lawsuit... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:35:21 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ahzilly@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: DIGEST-Ion Comments: To: Axel Klag MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Axel, > I created a new folder "HPDigest", set a filter on > , ponting to the new folder "HPDigest" hplx-l@=3DHPDigest Will work fine as a filter > moved "ExplodeDigest=3D1" to the new section ÝHPDigest¨ That will not explode the digest. The explosion is governed by having the ExplodeDigest=3D1 in the *mailbox* section where the digest would be received if there were no filter. I tested this last night :) Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 00:05:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Windows optional Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, so it helps the companies. But bottom line, we're talking 50$... Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 7:18 PM Subject: Windows optional > >>>>What's preventing, for example, companies from selling their PCs > with no OS, > then buying Win98 from say Egghead.Com and then installing it on > that PC for > their customers?<<<< > > The OEM version of windows from Microsoft is much cheaper than the > version we buy from Egghead. It also only includes minimal support > from Microsoft. The manufacturer provides the rest of the support > along with computer support. That helps the manufacturer sell > computers because they support them and it helps keep the prices low > because windows costs so little. > > I had the option of buying my current computer without Win98 for a > $50 savings and I'm sure part of that $50 they charged me for > Windows was profit. I'd be surprised if it cost them more than $25. > > One problem that'll come from breaking up MS is that they OS company > won't have any interest in pushing the OS at a low price to help > their application sales. I suspect that if they're broken up, > Windows will get a lot more expensive. > > By the way, has anyone heard which company would be doing the > language products? I've heard that there'll be the OS part and the > part that does everything else, but it really would be bad if the OS > company didn't make the development systems. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 03:35:18 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Q: Thin Fax drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently traded for an 8meg/2x 200LX. I was afraid I could never be able to afford one, WOOHOO! It has a 4meg ThinFax modem installed. I am thinking of replacing the ThinFax with a standard Flash. I know there is a driver with this card that interferes with the use of other cards. Would any of you be kind enough to give me some insight on how to make the transition as painless as possible. Off list would be fine, since it might not be of interest to everyone. Thanks Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 00:49:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: OT: Microwave link? Comments: To: Doug Golden , Ramez Naam , Multiple recipients of list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/06/08/1549216 Just thought you guys would get a kick out of this... Phil ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:35:46 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: statistics about list usage Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:30:37 +0200 >From: Daniel Hertrich >Subject: statistics about list usage >Hi friends, are there any statistics about how many postings per day are >sent to >the list? It would be interesting to see when there are more list messages >and when there are less.... >I noticed that a few days ago, I got nearly 100 messages per day, but >the next day, there were only 10 or 20 messages per day. GTX >daniel I sent a request "STats HPLX-L LOCal" (without the quotes) in the body of a message to the list server at LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU , and got a reply that from 1 Jan 2000 to-date (161 days), there is an average of 38 messages per day. The reply also list out the names of all who post messages, and number of messages posted by each. Requests sent by email to the list server are replied automatically within a minute or so. Some of the useful requests that I sent to the list server include:- SET HPLX-L DIGests (to change subscription to Digest mode) SET HPLX-L Mail (to change subscription to Immediate Mail) HELP (to get a list of commonly used list commands) INFO REFCARD (for a comprehensive reference card) There are commands to get the complete list of HPLX-L members, etc. Enjoy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:00:38 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: Windows optional Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <001d01bfd1b9$077f4740$43fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of BarryI had the option of buying my current computer without Win98 for a $50 savings and I'm sure part of that $50 they charged me for Windows was profit. I'd be surprised if it cost them more than $25. -------------------------- Surprise, the cost of Windows 95-98 to an "OEM" computer builder is about $93.00. Only the big guys (Dell, Gateway, etc.) get it for around $34.00. That's part of the big stink with Microsoft, they don't play fair. Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 13:00:13 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: DIGEST-Ion Comments: To: Axel Klag MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Axel Klag wrote: > I created a new folder "HPDigest", set a > filter on , ponting to the new folder "HPDiges= t", > moved "ExplodeDigest=3D1" to the new section ÝHPDigest¨ It works for me with the following POST.CFG entries (extraction only) ÝFILTER¨ UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU=3Dhplx ÝFOLDERS¨ Mail=3DE hplx=3DF ... ÝMail¨ ExplodeDigest=3D1 ... Ýhplx¨ ExplodeDigest=3D1 ... For me, it also didn't work in the first place, because I had the ExplodeDigest=3D1 in the wrong box. However I don't remember which box was the right one. Having it in both boxes doesn't seem to cause problems and works fine. ExplodeDigest is a very important improvement for my daily use of POST/LX. I may now keep, move and reply to individual emails and I see immediately, how many emails are contained in the digest. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 07:52:25 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question >A better solution may be to connect a standard serial cable to the >desktop's COM port, and you can then connect your various devices >to this extension of the COM port without having to reach to the >back of your desktop each time you want to switch devices. I use a >A/B/C/D box to switch between my various devices. Message-Id: <20000609115226.DZDF1339.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.246¨> Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:52:31 +0000 Thanks, this has been suggested by others as well and is good advice, I'm sure. I am now able to connect using the HP Serial/NullModemGenderBender/LapLink arrangement, but at a slower speed (57600). This has been a very informative rehash of an old topic and I thank all of you for your input. My aim wasn't for a long-term solution ... just trying to improvise something with resources at hand which is sometimes a more interesting exercise anyway . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:06:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Windows optional Comments: To: Systems-Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<<<>>>> I bought a clone, assembled at the store with the parts I specified, from a mom and pop computer store. They offered $50 off if I used my old windows (95) when I asked. I went ahead and got windows (98). I also asked about a second copy for my sister and her kids. I was sending my old computer to them and I wanted them to have Windows 98 and a Windows disk, also. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:21:21 +0200 Reply-To: giampiero di rico Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: giampiero di rico Subject: Re: DIGEST-Ion Comments: To: ahzilly@CS.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Hutchins" To: Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 8:35 AM Subject: Re: DIGEST-Ion Axel, > I created a new folder "HPDigest", set a filter on > , ponting to the new folder "HPDigest" hplx-l@=HPDigest Will work fine as a filter > moved "ExplodeDigest=1" to the new section ÝHPDigest¨ That will not explode the digest. The explosion is governed by having the ExplodeDigest=1 in the *mailbox* section where the digest would be received if there were no filter. I tested this last night :) Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:21:32 +0200 Reply-To: giampiero di rico Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: giampiero di rico Subject: Re: FLUFF: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ Comments: To: Theodore Heise MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theodore Heise" To: Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:13 AM Subject: FLUFF: Re: The MS Case ÝWas Re: Where is everybody??¨ > On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, David Ness wrote: > > > eugarps@att.net wrote: > > > > > > David, > > > > > > With that line of reasoning, why shouldn't the Fed call > > > fro the break-up of Autodesk (makers of AutoCAD)? > > > > Don't know. Probably they should, but when there are big fish to catch, > > I'm not surprised if no one is out hunting minnows... > > > It may have something to do with the generality of the product. > AutoCAD is pretty specialized--not nearly the broad market that > operating systems garner. > > Ted > > -- > Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA > PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 14:45:45 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: FYI: pcAnywhere DOS Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Just in case anyone else is interested, I recently purchased > the latest version (9.2) of pcAnywhere. The CD contains > versions for Win 2000, 98/95, NT, 3.1 and DOS. 4.5 was the last version to run on the hp200. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 14:45:56 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Who is John Galt Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Or better, read "The Fountainhead". It won't help with John Galt > but it's a far better book, possibly a great bit of literature, and > has precisely the same point of view. I recall as I was near the end, I could hear "my country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty" blaring in the background of my otherwise silent room!!!! Preachy, you could say that!!! (G) > I will give you one hint, though. John Galt had his motto One of my brethren, same job, different community has that name. It was, of course, a standing issue!!! (G) Some folks up there could not figure out why his name was on bumper stickers, though. (g) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:04:06 -0400 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: Re: FYI: pcAnywhere DOS Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20000609144545.MRHM2120.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is this available as freeware now? > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On > Behalf Of F. > Kaufman > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 10:46 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: FYI: pcAnywhere DOS > > > > Just in case anyone else is interested, I recently purchased > > the latest version (9.2) of pcAnywhere. The CD contains > > versions for Win 2000, 98/95, NT, 3.1 and DOS. > > 4.5 was the last version to run on the hp200. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:32:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Who is John Galt Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Who is John Galt > > Or better, read "The Fountainhead". It won't help with John Galt > > but it's a far better book, possibly a great bit of literature, and > > has precisely the same point of view. > > I recall as I was near the end, I could hear "my country tis of thee, > sweet land of liberty" blaring in the background of my otherwise silent > room!!!! Preachy, you could say that!!! (G) > > > I will give you one hint, though. John Galt had his motto > > One of my brethren, same job, different community has that name. It > was, of course, a standing issue!!! (G) > > Some folks up there could not figure out why his name was on bumper > stickers, though. (g) Every now and then someone on the newsgroup rec.arts.books mentions Ayn Rand. No matter what they say it starts a 2 month argument. She still has many, many true believers. There was a survey of people in various leadership roles in the USA a few years ago. If I remember right it included politicians, business leaders, etc. One of the questions was "What writer influenced your life and thoughts most?" and about 1/3 says Ayn Rand. Even though my beliefs are very different than her's, I think that's probably true of me too. She started me thinking about things I'd never thought about before. But the thing that's most often overlooked, at least in the case of "The Fountainhead" is the quality of her writing and storytelling. She was one of the best. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:50:43 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF: Who is John Galt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It seems that Ayn Rand is at a far extreme. I asgree that society has it's fair share of parasites at all levels of class and economics (tax cheats, welfare cheats, corrupt politicians, animal rights activists, terrorists, criminals, (most)lawyers, pork barrel politicians, the list goes on and on). But she also says that charitable giving and all sorts of social support are wrong. I tend to disagree on that point. There have to be some social programs where the government takes care of the masses on some level. Conditions can get pretty brutal when there are no healthcare and people go hungry. Throughout history, this type of behavior leads to social unrest and revolution. Isn't this what happened in France when what-her-name said "let 'em eat cake"? I don't mind if my nickel goes to help someone that really needs help I just hate getting cheated by those abusing the system. I guess that social parasites are like what rats are to cities. An unavoidable evil. BTW: John Galt was not mythical. He started that way but became a main character in the book. ABTW: Are Ayn Rand books considered classic enough yet that you can get them at guttenberg project? I want to read them on my LX. (See, slightly on-topic. ;¬> ) >-----Original Message----- >From: Barry Ýmailto:barry@FBTC.NET¨ >Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 11:33 AM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Who is John Galt > > > >Every now and then someone on the newsgroup rec.arts.books mentions >Ayn Rand. No matter what they say it starts a 2 month argument. >She still has many, many true believers. > >There was a survey of people in various leadership roles in the USA >a few years ago. If I remember right it included politicians, >business leaders, etc. One of the questions was "What writer >influenced your life and thoughts most?" and about 1/3 says Ayn >Rand. Even though my beliefs are very different than her's, I >think that's probably true of me too. She started me thinking about >things I'd never thought about before. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:44:19 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alessandro Dardani Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alessandro Dardani Subject: HP200LX 2Mb For Sale In-Reply-To: <200006090459.FAA55270@mercurio.piaggio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" . HP200LX 2Mb one year old, mint condition with original box and manuals . Serial cable and adaptator . 4 Mb HP flash card . 33.6 modem PCMCIA req. 250 $ + shipping Alessandro Dardani via Buonarroti 4 56031 Bientina (PI) ITALY tel. +39.0587.756268 cell. +39.0347.3784662 e-mail office dardani@piaggio.com e-mail home dardani@tiscalinet.it home page http://www.geocities.com/adardani/ Alessandro Dardani ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Piaggio S.p.A. Divisione Veicoli Prototipi e Prove ----------------------------------------------------------------------- tel +39.0587.272241 dardani@piaggio.com fax +39.0587.272827 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:07:32 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: 200LX serial cable question MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit FWIW, I suffered the same problems of too many things needing to be connected to Com1. For just a few dollars I bought a db9 extension cable about 2 feet long and attached it to the side of my PC near the front. Now I change cables without crawling behind the tower. I didn't want the switch box and three other cables always attached and in the way. Simple, cheap & effective - My kind of solution. Later, bob ************************************ Teo Soon Bock Said: A better solution may be to connect a standard serial cable to the desktop's COM port, and you can then connect your various devices to this extension of the COM port without having to reach to the back of your desktop each time you want to switch devices. I use a A/B/C/D box to switch between my various devices. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:40:09 -0700 Reply-To: Ron Zhang Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Zhang Subject: Help with FFDB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii For no reason I'm aware of, FFDB2 suddenly stopped working. From the main screen (Note View), if I press F9 and type in a word to search, then it returns with a blank screen. On the very top line, it says: FFDB: (file name) 26/*/25 25 being the total number of records in the file. I have no idea where 26 came from. I've deleted the program and reinstalled it to no avail. Any ideas? Ron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 13:23:19 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cgldent@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Lambert Subject: Re: HP200LX 2Mb For Sale Comments: To: dardani@piaggio.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm interested! Col in LA. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:08:27 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Windows optional Comments: To: Systems-Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep, but is it really unfair to sell to whoever you want at the price you want? Happens all the time. Looks like MS is just pusing the envelope to it's maximum. Independently, the actions of MS might just shrewd and no different than what other businesses do, but in concert, leveraging each other, these practices are enormously successful. All businesses want this kind of power and strive to attain it at all costs. Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Systems-Consulting To: Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 4:00 AM Subject: Re: Windows optional > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of > BarryI had the option of buying my current computer without Win98 for a > $50 savings and I'm sure part of that $50 they charged me for > Windows was profit. I'd be surprised if it cost them more than $25. > -------------------------- > > > Surprise, the cost of Windows 95-98 to an "OEM" computer builder is about > $93.00. Only the big guys (Dell, Gateway, etc.) get it for around $34.00. > > That's part of the big stink with Microsoft, they don't play fair. > > > > Thanks, > > Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting > 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 > tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 > web: http://Systems-Consulting.com > Maximizing the results of Information Systems > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 14:48:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Windows optional Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fryday wrote: > > Yep, but is it really unfair to sell to whoever you want at the price you want? > Happens all the time. Looks like MS is just pusing the envelope to it's maximum. > > Independently, the actions of MS might just shrewd and no different than what > other businesses do, but in concert, leveraging each other, these practices are > enormously successful. All businesses want this kind of power and strive to > attain it at all costs. > > Philippe > True enough. That's _why_ we have laws to prevent such practices. And it is quite manifestly `unfair' (and illegal) to adopt certain pricing policies as much as you might want to do so, and as profitable as they might be for you. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 14:49:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Werner Furlan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Werner Furlan Subject: Starting 200 after Netware Login MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hello Ted, in the meantime I tried with maxdos as you described. But unfortunately I had no succes. Maybe it plays a role whwn maxdos is loaded? Could you please mail me the sequence of your boot process? Another question is, why should be the maxdos -e parameter of any use, if there is no EMM? I started to study TREMM because of this, maybe it is necessary anyway? As I am working this week in another hospital as usual, I cannot try all my ideas at once, but I can easy type emails on my HP. thank you for your help, Werner -- mail powered by HP200/LX WWW/LX mailto:furlan@gmx.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:51:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan R Leipper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan R Leipper Subject: FLUFF Re: Windows optional Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit from FryDay@california.com: > Independently, the actions of MS might just shrewd and no different than what > other businesses do, but in concert, leveraging each other, these practices are The finding of fact that MS did not contest says otherwise. To me, one of the best illustrations is when the PBS news show went to a developer's conference and could not find anyone to speak out concerning MS due to fear of retribution - this is _not_ a normal or usual business result. When you do things like offer doctored videotapes as evidence (also _not_ a usual or normal business practice) in a trial or tell the judge where to stick it, you can expect that the judge will reflect that behavior in his decisions. There is much more to the judgement than just splitting the company. Many of the items are a direct response to things Microsoft did and said during the trial. I have also seen a commentary that quoted the 2nd section of the Sherman Anti Trust Act - it is very clean and very simple - and quite clearly appropriate to MS's business practice. The Jesse James school of entrepreneurism is not the one that built this country (the USA). -- Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 21:22:52 +0200 Reply-To: giampiero di rico Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: giampiero di rico Subject: Re: Windows optional Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit basta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 4:18 AM Subject: Windows optional > >>>>What's preventing, for example, companies from selling their PCs > with no OS, > then buying Win98 from say Egghead.Com and then installing it on > that PC for > their customers?<<<< > > The OEM version of windows from Microsoft is much cheaper than the > version we buy from Egghead. It also only includes minimal support > from Microsoft. The manufacturer provides the rest of the support > along with computer support. That helps the manufacturer sell > computers because they support them and it helps keep the prices low > because windows costs so little. > > I had the option of buying my current computer without Win98 for a > $50 savings and I'm sure part of that $50 they charged me for > Windows was profit. I'd be surprised if it cost them more than $25. > > One problem that'll come from breaking up MS is that they OS company > won't have any interest in pushing the OS at a low price to help > their application sales. I suspect that if they're broken up, > Windows will get a lot more expensive. > > By the way, has anyone heard which company would be doing the > language products? I've heard that there'll be the OS part and the > part that does everything else, but it really would be bad if the OS > company didn't make the development systems. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 21:41:24 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Dawn - a adressbook converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello, I found a adressbook converter utility that might be also of interest to the HP community: http://www.freeyellow.com/members8/zakharin/Software/Dawn.html it supports most popular Email programs and produces various output files including CSV files. regards, Werner -- http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 14:53:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Icons for dictionaries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Has anyone created nice icons to launch either the Dictionary/Thesaurus or the Translation Dictionary we sell? If so and we can use them, please email me so we can include them when we sell them. Thanks hal at thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 21:49:40 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: Bad sector MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark, Which Sandisk card are you using? What size? What is the date on the back of it? Another option is getting access to any Laptop that has DOS 6.2 or greater or Win 95 and just run Scandisk on the flashcard. It should mark and isolate the bad sectors in the data sections. =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:54:37 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Starting 200 after Netware Login Werner Furlan writes: > hello Ted, > > in the meantime I tried with maxdos as you described. But unfortunately > I had no succes. Maybe it plays a role whwn maxdos is loaded? > Could you please mail me the sequence of your boot process? Ýconfig.sys¨ device=\spd31.sys buffers=20 files=30 lastdrive=J device=\rd32.sys device=ansi.sys Ýautoexec.bat¨ rd32swap @echo off echo "running autoexec from big drive" prompt $p$g path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;c:\utils c: assign e:=a: c:\prgms\net\lxcic /l set tz=est5 set pgppath=c:\prgms\pgp262 set path=%path%;c:\prgms\pgp262 D:\BIN\KEY200 C:\_dat\KEYDEFS.TXT utils\lighton.com Ýmax.bat¨ @echo off c:\utils\maxdos -l -e -wf:\ d:\bin\200.com c:\utils\maxdos -r > Another question is, why should be the maxdos -e parameter of any use, > if there is no EMM? I really have no idea--I'm afraid I can't even say how I arrived at this setup. All I do know is it works. Perhaps the -w switch has something to do with it. My f: drive has nearly 1MB available--what are you using for your work directory? Maybe it doesn't have enough space. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:36:15 +0800 Reply-To: LEONG FOO TEK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LEONG FOO TEK Subject: Re: Bad sector MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am using SanDisk compactflash. Any idea where to get WEAR.EXE? Thanks Leong ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Bad sector Author: "HPLX Mailing List" Date: 6/9/2000 9:55 AM >>> Does anyone know of a good program that will mark bad sectors on the 200LX? I have a suspicion that I have at least one bad sector on my a: drive. Thanks!<<< I don't know what your A: drive is but if it's a Sandisk card you might try wear.exe. Have you tried reformatting? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:12:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Bad sector Comments: cc: LEONG FOO TEK Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It's usually found on some older computers, especially the ones that used linear flash, which is what wear.exe is probably designed for. I've been using my ATA flash drives (hard use) for years without developing any disk errors, and very few people have ever reported any problems. I think most modern ATA flash, and especially compact flash wouldn't need wear.exe. - Longden > I am using SanDisk compactflash. Any idea where to get WEAR.EXE? > > Thanks > Leong > >>> Does anyone know of a good program that will mark bad sectors on > the 200LX? > I have a suspicion that I have at least one bad sector on my a: > drive. Thanks!<<< > > I don't know what your A: drive is but if it's a Sandisk card you > might try wear.exe. > > Have you tried reformatting? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 21:40:24 -0500 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Organization: Times2 Tech Subject: Re: Bad sector Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <882568FA.000C2379.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I've been using my ATA flash drives (hard use) for years without developing any > disk errors, and very few people have ever reported any problems. > I think most modern ATA flash, and especially compact flash wouldn't need > wear.exe. I believe that ATA flash controllers, for many years now, do an automatically wear leveling in that if they detect an area going bad they relocate the information to spare areas contained in all modern flash chip designs. 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But who you are is not as important as who you become."*=0D=0A"If variety is the spice of life, then humor is the dessert." * =0D=0A"Statistically, at least half of the people in the world are of below-average intelligence." * fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------019CA6FEAD70D24614D74027-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 00:41:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: toddy app on super MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I was trying to d/load a program on super that enhances the dos prompt but the link was broekn. does anyone have the toddy command line enhancer tsr? thx ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 22:00:58 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Jacek Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Jacek Organization: @Home Network Subject: Re: Q: Thin Fax drivers Comments: To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dennis I have the same setup and have no problems swapping my Sandisk Flash cards and the ThinFax card. No driver is required for the Sandisk. It simply appears as the A: drive when installed. Important Safety Tip--power off before swapping cards. ...Gary Dennis Vest wrote: > > I recently traded for an 8meg/2x 200LX. I was afraid I could never be able to > afford one, WOOHOO! > > It has a 4meg ThinFax modem installed. I am thinking of replacing the ThinFax > with a standard Flash. I know there is a driver with this card that > interferes with the use of other cards. Would any of you be kind enough to > give me some insight on how to make the transition as painless as possible. > > Off list would be fine, since it might not be of interest to everyone. > > Thanks > Dennis > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 22:13:08 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: toddy app on super Comments: To: Ed Padin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was able to get it via the FTP address -> ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/ Let me know via email if you still need it. - Longden Ed Padin on 06/09/2000 09:41:31 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Ed Padin To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: toddy app on super Hi, I was trying to d/load a program on super that enhances the dos prompt but the link was broekn. does anyone have the toddy command line enhancer tsr? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 17:25:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , inthegarden@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Inaba Subject: MaxDos setup, for the newby Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello everybody- can anyone help with the safety basics of MaxDos setup in the 200lx? I want to put it on A drive (a 40MB Ace flash card), and then run most programs (except comm progs) on A:. I'm just a little nervous of screwing it up :0) TIA, Mike. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 22:48:53 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: MaxDos setup, for the newby Comments: To: inthegarden@CSI.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ace flash cards seem to have special requirements from other ATA flash, but here's a quick run-down, assuming the Ace doesn't pose any problems: Assumptions: a) Maxdos is in c:\utl\maxdos.com b) You're using a swap file on the root directory of A: rather than using EMS c) You have an app called a:\bigmutha.exe that needs lots of RAM d) Your already know how to edit autoexec.bat and add icons to AppMgr Steps: 1) edit your autoexec.bat and include this line: c:\utl\maxdos -L -Wa:\ As to where you place the line... anything above it stays in memory and anything below it gets swapped out later. 2) reboot your LX 3) add an icon for a:\bigmutha.exe and put this in the "Path" field: c:\utl\maxdos.com a:\bigmutha.exe| 4) save that icon, and press enter to run it 5) screen should blank and some maxdos related text shows up on the upper left 6) now your bigmutha app should be running 7) when you exit bigmutha, you should return to the icon screen You should then read the fine print in the maxdos docs to tune things to your liking. - Longden Michael Inaba on 06/08/2000 05:25:07 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to inthegarden@CSI.COM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: MaxDos setup, for the newby Hello everybody- can anyone help with the safety basics of MaxDos setup in the 200lx? I want to put it on A drive (a 40MB Ace flash card), and then run most programs (except comm progs) on A:. I'm just a little nervous of screwing it up :0) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 21:11:24 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan Lombaard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Lombaard Subject: Re: FLUFF: Who is John Galt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just have to point out that AR defines charity as a form of sacrifice. However the concept of supporting a group/person/cause/etc... without expecting to be repaid is acceptable as long as it is of some value to you. If the beneficiary of your support is of no consequence to you then it becomes a sacrifice ie something in return for nothing. As for the previous note about AR being right wing: My impression has been that the right and left wing are different ideals but the same principle in the end. In both the cause/country/tribe/etc. is the primary concern and the individual is merely the means to that end. What make AR unique is that she defends the individual as an end in him/herself. I'm probably in the wrong country to be a supporter of AR's ideas but anyway.... Must say, it would be nice have some of her books on the 200LX. After yet another assault of political correctness AR is always a refreshing read. :) > Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 11:50:43 -0400 > From: Ed Padin > Subject: Re: FLUFF: Who is John Galt > > It seems that Ayn Rand is at a far extreme. I asgree that society has it's > fair share of parasites at all levels of class and economics (tax cheats, > welfare cheats, corrupt politicians, animal rights activists, terrorists, > criminals, (most)lawyers, pork barrel politicians, the list goes on and > on). But she also says that charitable giving and all sorts of social > support are wrong. I tend to disagree on that point. There have to be some > social programs where the government takes care of the masses on some level. > Conditions can get pretty brutal when there are no healthcare and people go > hungry. Throughout history, this type of behavior leads to social unrest and > revolution. Isn't this what happened in France when what-her-name said "let > 'em eat cake"? I don't mind if my nickel goes to help someone that really > needs help I just hate getting cheated by those abusing the system. I guess > that social parasites are like what rats are to cities. An unavoidable evil. > > BTW: John Galt was not mythical. He started that way but became a main > character in the book. > > ABTW: Are Ayn Rand books considered classic enough yet that you can get them > at guttenberg project? I want to read them on my LX. (See, slightly > on-topic. ;¬> ) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 14:26:15 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: toddy app on super In-Reply-To: <88B83692B566C74F82EBDA8D36983E64BA56@exchange2000.WAGWEB.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Ed Padin wrote: > I was trying to d/load a program on super that enhances the dos prompt > but the link was broekn. does anyone have the toddy command line > enhancer tsr? The link now works again. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 08:49:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Where to get wear MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>Where does one find Wear.Exe? It's not on SUPER, and I know if it's on Sandisk's site it's well hidden (I've been all over that place for 3 days trying to solve a problem that needs fixed a week ago ) URL, please, if possible!<<<< SDP5-10 I couldn't find a url for it. I bought an Epson 10 meg card made by Sundisk (now Sandisk) and the copy of wear that came with it was defective. Unable to get a good one from Epson I finally tried the Sundisk site, found it and downloaded it and I've been using it ever since. I read the download page's description and it did say it worked only with certain cards. My card is a SDP5-10 (Sandisk's number), which was pretty common in 1993. I'm guessing that they've removed it because it doesn't work with later cards. I think I'd be afraid of damaging one. However, I have it and will be happy to attach a copy and send it to you. If you want it, send me a private email and I'll send you the program. It will only work on an HP palmtop. It will refuse to run on any other computer. What it does is wear level the card, replacing bad bits (sectors?) with good ones that it has in reserve for that purpose. It also determines which sectors are slow (used more) and swaps them with fast (used less) sectors to let the whole card wear at the same rate. I've been running it on that card every year since I got it and it always says my card doesn't need wear leveling yet. I'm kind of amazed. That's why I only buy Sandisk cards. I've been afraid to try this on my compact flash cards. It might not hurt but I don't want to take the chance. There were some warnings about using it with some cards on the download page. I have no memory of what cards it warned against or what the potential danger was, if it gave that information. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:02:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Doncha just HATE it when jerks won one? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> Doncha just HATE it when jerks won one? My sister's father-in-law, back in the 40's, gave his best friend a contract to pull white gravel out of a piece of property he owned. It was unique gravel, not found anyplace else, and brought a good price. His friend couldn't find a job and this was his way of helping out. According to the contract the lease was $30 a month. He forgot to specify a termination date. His "friend" pulled hundreds of millions of dollars out of that land, paying $30 a month the whole time. He's one of the richest men in Arkansas now. Then, a few years ago, the gravel ran out and he left. My sister's father-in-law was left with the state demanding that he come up with $800,000 for land reclamation. The "friend" of course, wasn't interested in contributing to that. It's still in court but the outcome seems pretty hopless. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:25:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Microsoft's pricing policies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>True enough. That's _why_ we have laws to prevent such practices. And it is quite manifestly `unfair' (and illegal) to adopt certain pricing policies as much as you might want to do so, and as profitable as they might be for you.<<<< If MS sells for a high price to small volume buyers and a low price to high volume buyers, what's unusual about that? Every company does that. Even the government does that. You get large discounts for bulk mail. This morning, Daniel Shore on NPR news, had an interesting comment that gives a view of the MS judgement I hadn't thought of. He said that the judge said MS was untrustworthy and a few related adjectives, using trust in it's familiar sense. And he supposed that came partly from the fact that MS tried to lobby congress to reduce the justice dept's budget so they would be unable to pursue this. He referred to that as dirty pool. And I think I agree. I've been undecided about what I thought should come of this case. (not that it matters what I think :) I've never been a MS distractor, really. I always thought they produced mediocre software but not terrible software. Their obvious strong point is marketing and business. And sure they used that strength to their advantage. Business is about using your strengths to your advantage. I did think the went too far but I wasn't really convinced that that was bad, overall. Look what happened to the computer industry and the economy because of them. Would it have happened anyway? Probably, but who knows! But considering Daniel Shore's comment, I can see why the judge thinks MS is untrustworthy and probably dangerous. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:28:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Jesse James MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>The Jesse James school of entrepreneurism is not the one that built this country (the USA).<<<< I'd like to believe that, too. But I'm not sure I really do. That might not be the only way, but it's one way. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 10:36:43 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michberr01@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: test MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 08:40:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian McIlvaine Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 8 Jun 2000 to 9 Jun 2000 (#2000-207) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "It seems that Ayn Rand is at a far extreme. " As with most philosophical discussions, this is a matter of perspective. "But she also says that charitable giving and all sorts of social support are wrong." Not quite right - Rand did not say that charity was "wrong". She said that charity was neither moral nor amoral. She believed that the value of charity was only whether it made the giver feel better - she did not feel that it did the receiver any good. One could argue that the "success" of the Johnson era Great Society welfare programs bear her out. Rand believed that it was wrong for the government to force you to donate "charity" through taxation. A case in point - one of her character buys millions of dollars of emeralds for his mate - the only reason he did so was becasue of how much he believed he would enjoy seeing her wear them. I don't think that Rand believed there were no functions for government - Her address to the graduating class of West Point was a powerful speech, and I think reflects this fact. ". Isn't this what happened in France when what-her-name said "let 'em (sic) eat cake"? " - I think modern historians believe that was not said out of meanness, but ignorance of how bad things were around them. Royalty (and democratically elected leaders more and more these days) tend to be isolated from what the socialists lovingly called "the masses". ABTW: Are Ayn Rand books considered classic enough yet that you can get them at guttenberg project? I want to read them on my LX. (See, slightly on-topic. ;¬> ) I believe that "Anthem", which is very much along the lines of her story regarding John Galt, is available at the Gutenberg Project. Brian From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF: Who is John Galt It seems that Ayn Rand is at a far extreme. I asgree that society has it's fair share of parasites at all levels of class and economics (tax cheats, welfare cheats, corrupt politicians, animal rights activists, terrorists, criminals, (most)lawyers, pork barrel politicians, the list goes on and on). But she also says that charitable giving and all sorts of social support are wrong. I tend to disagree on that point. There have to be some social programs where the government takes care of the masses on some level. Conditions can get pretty brutal when there are no healthcare and people go hungry. Throughout history, this type of behavior leads to social unrest and revolution. Isn't this what happened in France when what-her-name said "let 'em eat cake"? I don't mind if my nickel goes to help someone that really needs help I just hate getting cheated by those abusing the system. I guess that social parasites are like what rats are to cities. An unavoidable evil. BTW: John Galt was not mythical. He started that way but became a main character in the book. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 08:46:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian McIlvaine Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 8 Jun 2000 to 9 Jun 2000 (#2000-207) Comments: cc: Ron.Zhang@ENG.SUN.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ron - Must be a bug in the search function. If the data isn't too personal, please send me a copy of the database and the search string and I'll test it against a new search routine that I have written. I noticed that the old search string would sometimes not find a string that was in the database. I have fixed that would like to test it against your problem. As a side note - before you pressed OK for the search, did you notice if there were any valid notes (as indicated by an X in the search window)? > Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:40:09 -0700 > From: Ron Zhang > Subject: Help with FFDB > > For no reason I'm aware of, FFDB2 suddenly stopped working. From the main > screen (Note View), if I press F9 and type in a word to search, then it > returns with a blank screen. On the very top line, it says: > > FFDB: (file name) 26/*/25 > > 25 being the total number of records in the file. I have no idea where 26 > came from. > > I've deleted the program and reinstalled it to no avail. Any ideas? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 10:44:20 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Microsoft's pricing policies Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > > If MS sells for a high price to small volume buyers and a low price > to high volume buyers, what's unusual about that? Every company > does that. Even the government does that. You get large discounts > for bulk mail. > Nothing is unusual. Lots of pricing practices are legal. I must miss your point. The fact that _some_ pricing practices are legal has nothing, AFAICS, to do with those which are illegal. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 07:48:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan R Leipper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan R Leipper Subject: FLUFF Re: Jesse James Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > > >>>>The Jesse James school of entrepreneurism is not the one that > built this country (the USA).<<<< > > I'd like to believe that, too. But I'm not sure I really do. That > might not be the only way, but it's one way. It doesn't work for the whole: take a look at Russia right now for an example -- Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 16:57:12 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: ÝOT¨ RE: Microsoft's pricing policies Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Well I have to get into this discussion at this point. > I've been undecided about what I thought should come of this case. > (not that it matters what I think :) I've never been a MS > distractor, really. I always thought they produced mediocre > software but not terrible software. Their obvious strong point is > marketing and business. > The statement above by Barry made me think. (For once). Why don't you find a lot of people visibly lobbying against how the Internet is run? I guess you do, but it's not mainstream. Or whether HTML3.0 is a good idea? Or whether TCP/IP should be used as transport for Internet packets? I'd like to equate M$ to the Internet here in a sense that both happened and the market has evolved around it. I involuntarily base my work on M$ products (I'm a Delphi developer thus I can only produce executable code for systems running Win32 (eg. Win NT / 95 / 98 / 2000) operating systems. Similarly if someone wants a website, I can develop it to run on NT, Linux, Solaris, any other Unix or whatever, but I'm still bound by the constraints of the layer on which I develop (ie ... uhhh wrong context for it est ... in other words common e-mail, compliant readable web-pages, viewable images etc.). In the context of the internet the layour is the Internet itself. In the context of my Delphi development, the layer is M$ Operating systems. So guess why I'm excited about Kylix! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:05:29 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Connecting HP200 to Novell 3.12 In-Reply-To: <20000610040029.13413gmx1@mx06.gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello Ted and readers of the list, thank you very much for the copy of your configuration. I tried it on my system, but it is still not possible to load 200 after Netx. In your configuration there is one driver loaded called rd32.sys. I do not know what it is, but I think it has to do with your F: drive, it makes a ram disk F: and maybe thats the extra memory you got. Where did you get this program? Maybe it would help me too. My disk C: has 5 MB free - that should be enough. I tried to use TREMM to get emm, but it did not help. The most disappointing thing follows now: Connecting to the network failed today. It was the same than with my first tries: after loading netx I was attached to the server, but I had no drive to login! I have no idea what could be the cause. On thursday evening it had worked, I had drive F: as my first network drive and the prompt was on F:\login. Who can help? a little confused, Werner Am 10 Jun 2000, um 0:00, schrieb Theodore Heise ueber "HPLX-L Digest - 8 Jun 2000 to 9 Jun 2000 (#2000-2": > Ýconfig.sys¨ > device=\spd31.sys > buffers=20 > files=30 > lastdrive=J > device=\rd32.sys > device=ansi.sys > > Ýautoexec.bat¨ > rd32swap > @echo off > echo "running autoexec from big drive" > prompt $p$g > path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;c:\utils > c: > assign e:=a: > c:\prgms\net\lxcic /l > set tz=est5 > set pgppath=c:\prgms\pgp262 > set path=%path%;c:\prgms\pgp262 > D:\BIN\KEY200 C:\_dat\KEYDEFS.TXT > utils\lighton.com > > Ýmax.bat¨ > @echo off > c:\utils\maxdos -l -e -wf:\ > d:\bin\200.com > c:\utils\maxdos -r > -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:18:48 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Where to get wear Comments: To: Mark Willis , Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are some files I got from a Sandisk technician when I first got my 20MB card. The resize will change the cluster size but has to be done in a 286 type machine (not 200LX). Never could get it to work. Bob HOTCNT EXE 48,176 07-31-96 10:32a HOTCNT.EXE IDDRV EXE 28,528 07-31-96 10:55a IDDRV.EXE RESIZE EXE 38,625 09-28-85 10:12p RESIZE.EXE SCANFIX EXE 38,323 07-31-96 10:29a SCANFIX.EXE WIPE EXE 25,754 07-31-96 10:18a WIPE.EXE *** HOTCNT *** SanDisk Solid State Sector Hot Count Utility. Version 1.04B. Usage: HOTCNT ÝOption¨ Option: /base=XXXÝh¨ - Base I/O address XXX in Hexadecimal or Decimal. (absence of Socket and Card services, and ATA driver) /d - Log all sectors' hot counts to HOTCNTDT.LOG. /? - This help menu. Note: The percent use of the sector's life cycle is logged to HOTCNTBL.LOG. For examples, HOTCNT HOTCNT /D HOTCNT /BASE=896 HOTCNT /BASE=896 /D HOTCNT /BASE=380H HOTCNT /BASE=380H /D *** SCANFIX *** SanDisk Solid State ScanFix Utility. Version 1.01B. (By Applications Engineering) Usage: SCANFIX ÝOption¨ Option: /base=XXXÝh¨ - Base I/O address XXX in Hexadecimal or Decimal. (absence of Socket and Card services, and ATA driver) /f - Try to fix corrupted sectors in the FAT and Data Area. /? - This help menu. The SCANFIX.LOG is generated in the current directory where the SCANFIX.EXE is executed. For example, SCANFIX /BASE=380H /F *** WIPE *** SanDisk Solid State Partition Table Wipe Out Utility. Version 1.01B. WARNING: ALL DATA ON REMOVABLE DRIVE(S) WILL BE LOST! Proceed with WIPE (Y/N)? -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 17:25:47 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: Re: Where to get wear Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain We too are not aware of where "wear" files were to be warehoused, or whether "wear" were still in business. Donald's quip for the day. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert K. Meyer ÝSMTP:bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM¨ > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 5:19 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Where to get wear > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 10:11:47 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: FS megahertz modems The following message was posted in alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp. I've had good luck with the Megahertz 14.4 X-Jack Gold modem in my 200LX. Ted Howard E Paine IV writes: > I have 2 megahertz modems forsale > > 1. pcmcia gold series fax modem with x-jack 14,400/14,400 bps > > 2. pcmcia 2.0 data / fax modem megahertz 14,400/14,000 bps > > asking $15.00 each plus $3.00 shipping or take both for $22 plus > $ 3.00 shipping > thanks > Howard > kd6asm@tmisnet.com -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 16:47:09 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Windows optional Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Yep, but is it really unfair to sell to whoever you want at the price you want? > Happens all the time. Looks like MS is just pusing the envelope to it's maximum. > > Independently, the actions of MS might just shrewd and no different than what > other businesses do, but in concert, leveraging each other, these practices are > enormously successful. All businesses want this kind of power and strive to > attain it at all costs. And it is against the law - at least, so a judge found. Actions may not seem inappropriate but when one enacts a law, even lawful behavior, or at least, not immoral behavior becomes illegal. It may just come down to a legal definition. If that definition has outlived its purpose or usefulness, change the law. But MS cannot be exonerated if it in fact broke a duly enacted and still current law. Now, you and I may disagree with that judge's decision on whether MS did break the Sherman Act and/or whatever else was at issue. Our opinions do not count as much in this matter! (G) And it was not just the pricing issue, it was a series of actions which the judge found violated the law. Pricing, predatory practices, other??? Remember, MS easily backed off of purchasing, was it Intuit, not out of generousity but out of possibly critical analysis of its affects on competition. Again, same law - good, bad or indifferent until amended or repealed or even with appropriate votes on the US Supreme Court now almost 100 years later found unconstitutional. Remember 150 years ago or so, the Supreme Court found slavery acceptable. They later changed their minds (I think!!!!) Which is why abortion is still such a hot judge appointment issue - the court can change its collective mind with only 5 votes!!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 16:47:12 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Bad sector Comments: To: b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Which Sandisk card are you using? What size? What is the > date on the back of it? Another option is getting access to > any Laptop that has DOS 6.2 or greater or Win 95 and just run > Scandisk on the flashcard. It should mark and isolate the > bad sectors in the data sections. =Bob= Some programs will treat a pcmcia card as "removeable media" and treat it differently including things like Norton. Not that this is always the case but some programs will not run on such media. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 01:15:37 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Organization: Oslonett! Subject: PDA keyboard Hi all, I bought an IR keyboard that doesn't work, so I surfed over to the manufacturer. They also have a PDA keyboard... :-) Click on keyboards, pda for a serial port keyboard: http://www.datacomp-inc.com/ FWIW. br Franklin (Who has a DR-1 and IR-86, anybody got the same? Just to exchange notes. Mine half-works...) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 18:59:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Microsoft's pricing policies Comments: To: David Ness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ness" Subject: Re: Microsoft's pricing policies > Barry wrote: > > > > If MS sells for a high price to small volume buyers and a low price > > to high volume buyers, what's unusual about that? Every company > > does that. Even the government does that. You get large discounts > > for bulk mail. > > > > Nothing is unusual. Lots of pricing practices are legal. I must miss your point. > The fact that _some_ pricing practices are legal has nothing, AFAICS, to do with > those which are illegal. Well, that's a cute answer. Would you please explain it? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 19:07:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: FLUFF Re: Jesse James Comments: To: Bryan R Leipper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan R Leipper" Subject: FLUFF Re: Jesse James > Barry wrote: > > > > >>>>The Jesse James school of entrepreneurism is not the one that > > built this country (the USA).<<<< > > > > I'd like to believe that, too. But I'm not sure I really do. That > > might not be the only way, but it's one way. > > It doesn't work for the whole: take a look at Russia right now > for an example That is a good example. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 19:09:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: ÝOT¨ RE: Microsoft's pricing policies Comments: To: Klopper Donald MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is Kylix? Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klopper Donald" To: "'HPLX Mailing List'" ; "'Barry'" Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2000 9:57 AM Subject: ÝOT¨ RE: Microsoft's pricing policies > Why don't you find a lot of people visibly lobbying against how the Internet > is run? I guess you do, but it's not mainstream. > Or whether HTML3.0 is a good idea? > Or whether TCP/IP should be used as transport for Internet packets? > > I'd like to equate M$ to the Internet here in a sense that both happened and > the market has evolved around it. > > I involuntarily base my work on M$ products (I'm a Delphi developer thus I > can only produce executable code for systems running Win32 (eg. Win NT / 95 > / 98 / 2000) operating systems. > > Similarly if someone wants a website, I can develop it to run on NT, Linux, > Solaris, any other Unix or whatever, but I'm still bound by the constraints > of the layer on which I develop (ie ... uhhh wrong context for it est ... in > other words common e-mail, compliant readable web-pages, viewable images > etc.). In the context of the internet the layour is the Internet itself. In > the context of my Delphi development, the layer is M$ Operating systems. > > So guess why I'm excited about Kylix! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 18:59:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: Bad sector MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, twas Barry that was having problems - I just wanted to take a stare at that program (I have about 700MB worth of flash media and more coming in all the time, for my embedded software pursuits...) Most commonly used ones I have are the 48Mb CF card and pair of 175Mb Type II flash's, lots of other SanDisk's. I have ~20 laptops and ~15 desktops with PCMCIA docks here, already have other solutions, what I want to know is what WEAR.EXE *does* so my microcontrollers that use Flash cards can potentially do the same... Mark Bob Newins wrote: > Mark, > > Which Sandisk card are you using? What size? What is the > date on the back of it? Another option is getting access to > any Laptop that has DOS 6.2 or greater or Win 95 and just run > Scandisk on the flashcard. It should mark and isolate the > bad sectors in the data sections. =Bob= > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 19:04:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: Doncha just HATE it when jerks won one? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > >>> Doncha just HATE it when jerks won one? > > My sister's father-in-law, back in the 40's, gave his best friend a > contract to pull white gravel out of a piece of property he owned. > It was unique gravel, not found anyplace else, and brought a good > price. His friend couldn't find a job and this was his way of > helping out. According to the contract the lease was $30 a month. > He forgot to specify a termination date. > > His "friend" pulled hundreds of millions of dollars out of that > land, paying $30 a month the whole time. He's one of the richest > men in Arkansas now. Then, a few years ago, the gravel ran out and > he left. My sister's father-in-law was left with the state > demanding that he come up with $800,000 for land reclamation. The > "friend" of course, wasn't interested in contributing to that. It's > still in court but the outcome seems pretty hopless. > > Barry Ow. Guess that friendship wasn't worth much to his "friend". Too darn true. Even if you have a contract with a termination date, you can end up stuck with trying to "evict" them, and that can take mucho money you don't have and a lot of grief. The trick's to stick with good people you can trust who know what the term "Ethics" means, and practice it, I guess. They're out there, just not everyone's a good guy - Most are, or the whole world'd be far more chaotic than it is now... Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 19:13:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: OT: ZoneAlarm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anybody use ZoneAlarm? I've been running it for 9 months without a problem until recently. In the last few days, it's been blue-screening me on start-up (vector initialization) about 50% of the time. The last time I installed anything new was 2 months or so ago, this just started randomly happening. I'm awaiting a tech response from ZoneLabs, which may take a while. Any comments? (at the blue screen, when I press a key to continue, the OS (win95) continues it's task loading sequence, and ZoneAlarm doesn't display it's tray icon. However, ctrl-alt-del reveals it in the task box, not responding to the shut down. End task at that point is successful, and generally I've shut down properly and rebooted next and all is fine. Running NDD and RegClean reveal no errors.) TIA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 19:21:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: Need ATA Driver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Bob - I have a Viper 260, just loaded Win95 OEM 2.5 on a 48Mb Flash card for a PC110 owner last week with it - all you need are the drivers that come with your laptop's or Desktop's PCMCIA ports to do initialization of the drive, ONCE only, and after that and formatting the drive and SYSing it, you can actually boot some machines directly off the drive (i.e. an IBM PC110 will boot off that drive easily.) If you don't have ANY luck, I can initialize this disk for you and format it on any laptop here, in about 5 minutes, if you mail it to me with return postage that'd be nice On my old 486 laptop I usually use for this, there's an ATAINIT program (completely laptop-specific) - this does the equivalent of FDisk for the drive, but it'll only work on the Sager I have. I then run Format d: /s/u, which formats ans SYS's it with Dos 6.22, and I'm set. (Can make that Dos 5.0 if you prefer, that's planned ASAP to add a PCMCIA Dock to the Dos 5 machine!) HMmm. Look at http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/pc110.html, IIRC there's a Daniel Basterfield link off there that has some IBM ATA init routine that you might try (People with PC110's don't have an ATAInit Program or equivalent so someone got that to Daniel.) If you try that & it works please let me know as I haven't tried it yet. So to summarize: 1) If you have a laptop, look for the PCMCIA handling routines directory, there should be a PCMCIA initialization routine on there; If I knew what laptop brand you have, it'd help. Probably those drivers etc. are at the laptop manufacturer's web site. 2) If no laptop, see 1) above but with your desktop machine that has a PCMCIA dock, instead. 3) If none of the above, please tell me how you're accessing the drive as you're doing something unusual 4) If none of the above, I can fix it for you. I'm in Enumclaw, WA. Mark Bob Christopher wrote: > I recently acquired a Practical Peripheral Viper 340mb > PCMCIA type III ATA hard disk without the setup/install > disk. Does anyone happen to have one they can zip up > and email to me? Practical Peripherals is out of business > so I have to search elsewhere. Any help would be most > appreciated. Thanks. > Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA > Email: bc@chisp.net website: www.chisp.net/~bc > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- DOS e-mail -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 23:09:33 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: INFO REFCARD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about that, folks. I wasn't paying attention. A stupid mistake. Again, my apologies. - Richard From: "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Fri 10:17 PM Subject: INFO REFCARD INFO REFCARD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 23:13:29 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Where to get wear MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have wear.exe if anybody needs it. Just drop me a line off-list and I'll be glad to send it to you. This might make up for my previous INFO REFCARD error! ;-) Maybe we should ask Sandisk if we can post it on SUPER? - Richard Smith ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 14:29:13 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: hotswap SanDisks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SanDisk has a PDF file on it's site solely dedicated to the HP95/100/200 palmtops. http://www.sandisk.com follow: -Consumers -Drivers -Platform Support Documents -HP95/100/200 palmtops Besides explaining in detail which cards work in which HP and how to setup Stacker and how to format the cards on the different palmtops, they state hotswapping of SanDisk cards is possible on the 95 and 200, but not on the 100. Indeed I had to try it immediately on my 200LX, and they seem to be right. Once you are on their site, read also the FAQ's. Many questions arising about flash cards on this list from time to time are answered in detail. Especially interesting is a note about improved speed for writing to a SanDisk flash card using a special command called "Erase Sectors and Write without Erase". It is recommended for digital camera designers to allow quick saving of multiple shots. To use the command on the palmtop, I guess it has to be implemented in a new driver, because the built in driver doesn't seem to support it. (Mack?) Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:15:13 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: hotswap SanDisks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan, > Besides explaining in detail which cards work in which HP and > how to setup Stacker and how to format the cards on the > different palmtops, they state hotswapping of SanDisk cards > is possible on the 95 and 200, but not on the 100. > > Indeed I had to try it immediately on my 200LX, and they seem > to be right. This is great news to me! Thanks for bringing this up. Indeed it is working, I just tested it! How does lxcic recognize which card is plugged in? I thought lxcic requires OFF and ON. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 08:53:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Individuals MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>As for the previous note about AR being right wing: My impression has been that the right and left wing are different ideals but the same principle in the end. In both the cause/country/tribe/etc. is the primary concern and the individual is merely the means to that end. What make AR unique is that she defends the individual as an end in him/herself.<<< That's a very good point. I never looked at it that way. I don't completely agree with your analysys of the right and left, but it has some truth. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:15:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Mythical John Galt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>BTW: John Galt was not mythical. He started that way but became a main character in the book.<<<< Ayn Rand always insisted that there was nothing mythical about any of her characters. That she always surrounded herself with such people. But I think I remember thinking that John Galt was mythical through the whole book. I read that book so many years ago that I'm not sure about what I remember about it. But I've read "The Fountainhead" many times, most recently about 2 years ago. It's leading character, Howard Roark, is certainly mythical. There's another interesting thing about "The Fountainhead". What other author would begin a novel with the hero raping the heroine? And then let us know she really wanted it. Especially surprising from a female author. Even more surprising because she makes it seem so right. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:23:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Wear.exe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>Bob, twas Barry that was having problems - I just wanted to take a stare at that program (I have about 700MB worth of flash media and more coming in all the time, for my embedded software pursuits...) Most commonly used ones I have are the 48Mb CF card and pair of 175Mb Type II flash's, lots of other SanDisk's. I have ~20 laptops and ~15 desktops with PCMCIA docks here, already have other solutions, what I want to know is what WEAR.EXE *does* so my microcontrollers that use Flash cards can potentially do the same...<<<<<< I'm not having problems. I just mentioned wear.exe to someone who was having problems. I have wear.exe and I'll be glad to send it to anyone who wants it. Just send me a private email and I'll attach it to the reply. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:26:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Good guys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>The trick's to stick with good people you can trust who know what the term "Ethics" means, and practice it, I guess. They're out there, just not everyone's a good guy - Most are, or the whole world'd be far more chaotic than it is now...<<<< I fully agree. In fact, if the world wasnt mostly made up of good guys, we wouldn't dare talk about the bad guys. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 17:37:52 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: Re: ÝOT¨ RE: Microsoft's pricing policies Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain What is Kylix? It can be summed up as Borland Delphi for Linux. In other words I can port my applications and my experience away from M$ to Linux. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:44:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Cobb Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Cobb Subject: Flashcards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is anybody aware of any flashcard type of programs out there that will run on the 200LX? I need to memorize lots of info for my job and I think the HP might work well for this if I can find the right program. Thanks, John Cobb ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:35:17 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MichStocker@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Stocker Subject: Re: Flashcards Comments: To: ejc5@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about just using the notepad or database? In a message dated 6/11/00 11:56:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ejc5@EARTHLINK.NET writes: > Is anybody aware of any flashcard type of programs out there that will > run on the 200LX? I need to memorize lots of info for my job and I think > the HP might work well for this if I can find the right program. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:05:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: ÝOT¨ RE: Microsoft's pricing policies Comments: To: Klopper Donald MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klopper Donald" Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:37 AM Subject: RE: ÝOT¨ RE: Microsoft's pricing policies > What is Kylix? > > It can be summed up as Borland Delphi for Linux. In other words I can port > my applications and my experience away from M$ to Linux. Interesting. I didn't know there was such a thing. I heard a comment on one of the news shows this morning that if MS finally does break up, there's likely to be Office for linux and also there's likely to be MacOS for PC's, since Apple won't be intimidated by the OS part of MS. I guess anything can happen. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:15:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Cobb Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Cobb Subject: Re: Flashcards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's a great idea and I have used the built-in database in the past and it works fairly well. Unfortunately, the question can only be as long as will fit on 1 line of the screen (At least as far as I know) when using the database in its columnar mode. I would like to be able have 1 question per screen appear without the question length limitation. Would you know a way to do this using the built-in database? Michael Stocker wrote: > How about just using the notepad or database? > > > Is anybody aware of any flashcard type of programs out there that will > > run on the 200LX? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:40:48 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MichStocker@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Stocker Subject: Re: Flashcards Comments: To: ejc5@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The note field might work. In a message dated 6/11/00 1:17:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ejc5@EARTHLINK.NET writes: > I would like to be able have 1 question per screen appear > without the question length limitation. Would you know a way to do this > using > the built-in database? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:01:32 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Flashcards Comments: To: ejc5@EARTHLINK.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The SUPER site has a flashcard program based on the built-in database. (I think is called Flashcard). Another one is called Pgmquiz. Also, on SIMTEL there are several DOS flash card programs. My favorite is a program called SuperMemo. There are several versions (2, 4, 5 & 6). I personally prefer version 5. The program has some problems with the colors. Domingo On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:15:19 -0500 John Cobb writes: > That's a great idea and I have used the built-in database in the past > and it > works fairly well. Unfortunately, the question can only be as long > as will fit > on 1 line of the screen (At least as far as I know) when using the > database in > its columnar mode. I would like to be able have 1 question per > screen appear > without the question length limitation. Would you know a way to do > this using > the built-in database? > > Michael Stocker wrote: > > > How about just using the notepad or database? > > > > > Is anybody aware of any flashcard type of programs out there > that will > > > run on the 200LX? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:33:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Cobb Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Cobb Subject: Re: Flashcards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the info. I'll check SimTel to see what I can come up with. Regards, John Cobb ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 19:24:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: OT: fluff.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To my respected LX friends - Yesterday I posted a message re: ZoneAlarm problems, which returned exactly "zero" responses. This causes me to think that not too many are aware of this utility, so I'd like to provide a couple of URL's which will lead to some very interesting reading concerning intrusion. http://www.grc.com (anybody recall Steve Gibson's SpinRite? see what he's up to now..) http://www.zonelabs.com (software firewall that reports intrusion attempts & sources) The relatively minor problems I'm currently experiencing with ZoneAlarm in no way detracts from my personal experience using it. It's one of the very few that I'd consider recommending to my friends. It's worked flawlessly for a long time. As far as intrusion attempts from out yonder, I've been getting half-a-dozen to a dozen daily, and I'm a nobody. Prior to installing this software, I had no idea it was happening. You can test your machine online at Steve Gibson's site to see just how many ports are wide open to hackers and scammers who are running software that tests thousands of addresses simultaneously to find unprotected pc's. All this is explained fully at Steve's site. Once again, my apologies for going off-topic. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:54:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Flashcards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Is anybody aware of any flashcard type of programs out there that will > run on the 200LX? I need to memorize lots of info for my job and I think > the HP might work well for this if I can find the right program. Create a custom database with one field for the "front" of the card and one field for the "back". Set up the datacard smartclip so it shows only the "front". This way you can move up and down through your list of flash cards and see all of the "fronts". When you want to see the "back" of a card just press Enter and the ESC when you want to go back to the main list. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 00:00:29 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Cameron Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Cameron Organization: None Subject: Re: Who is John Galt Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <000901bfd227$ffc325c0$6dfc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: >There was a survey of people in various leadership roles in the USA >a few years ago. If I remember right it included politicians, >business leaders, etc. One of the questions was "What writer >influenced your life and thoughts most?" Alan Greenspan (the most powerful man in the world IMHO) was a personal friend of Ayn Rand and devotee of her philosphy. It's kind of ironic that he's in a job that her philosophy implies should be abolished. The quote from the book (I think it was AS, but maybe it was The Fountainhead) that I use the most is "contradictions don't exist - check your assumptions." I used this one Friday. -- Curtis Cameron WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:02:13 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: hotswap SanDisks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guenther Helmuth E. wrote: > > ...hotswapping of SanDisk cards > > is possible on the 95 and 200, but not on the 100. > > How does lxcic recognize which card is plugged in? I thought lxcic > requires OFF and ON. LXCIC does nothing with memory cards, it's an I/O card enabler, not a memory card enabler, which is already built into the palmtops ROM. This one is first called after a card change/power event. If it finds a card in it's responsibility, it does it's job and that's it. No LXCIC is involved. However if the card is not for the built in driver, then a possibly loaded second driver (like CIC100 or LXCIC) is called. LXCIC's capability to display a memory card's manufacturer and do power off/on with the card is a general PCMCIA feature and is simply applied to any card found by LXCIC when the command is issued. This does not mean, that LXCIC must have been the enabler of the card. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:00:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: Re: OT: ZoneAlarm Comments: To: "Brown, William" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" William - It's funny, since I posted to the list and wrote to support, I haven't seen another blue screen. Yesterday however, while reading mail at yahoo (browser), I received a 3 hit alert and before I could respond to the prompt, win95 shut ZoneAlarm down. I was able to reload it successfully and continue on with no further problems. I suspect you are correct, probably a slight error has occurred in the registry. If I attempt what you describe, it'll be my first experience w/regedit. I'm gonna procrastinate a bit and see if it goes away.. I think a re-install may well be in order, but I am happy with the ver I have (2.0x) and always a little leery of upgrades. Thanks for the reply. BTW - I've been particularly impressed with the outgoing bandwidth (un-authorized) that I've been able to stop dead in it's tracks. Using Sam Spade works well at tracing down the sources of of all this hanky-panky. At 09:41 AM 6/12/00 +0100, you wrote: >I use it on W95 and W98 with no problems like you describe. I >susp byte rot or some other application. The usual plan would be: >1. De-install using whatever means it provides. >2. Use REGEDIT to search the registry for any trace of it and > remove that too. >3. Shut down/power cycle clean start >4. Re-install. >Generally I'm very impressed with it as a free product, and it's alarming to see how much it is blocking. I have had to play around to do things like tell it that www.mcaffee.com is OK so that the BackWeb updated to VirusScan worked. A few other things will not work with it running, and they tend to be things where you have no idea what ports are being used. There does not seem to be a way to allow specific ports, but I guess it's intended to be simple and err on the side of safety. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:39:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Clik! disk? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Iomega Click disk in a PCMCIA card draws too much power for the HP200, right? Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:03:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: Clik! disk? Comments: To: Bryan Biggers In-Reply-To: <3944F628.BA6D32C1@globaldialog.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Right Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Bryan Biggers Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 10:40 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Clik! disk? The Iomega Click disk in a PCMCIA card draws too much power for the HP200, right? Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:05:34 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Clik! disk? Comments: To: Bryan Biggers In-Reply-To: <3944F628.BA6D32C1@globaldialog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:39 AM Monday 6/12/2000 -0500, you wrote: The Iomega Click disk in a PCMCIA card draws too much power for the HP200, right? I think so. Other problems are the lack of DOS drivers, and there was at least one report that the card is just slightly too thick for the LX. Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:07:38 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Clik! disk? In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000612110114.00a1de20@mail.web2000.net> from "Peniel Romanelli" at Jun 12, 2000 11:05:34 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The Iomega Click disk in a PCMCIA card draws too much power for the > HP200, right? > > I think so. Other problems are the lack of DOS drivers, and there was > at least one report that the card is just slightly too thick for the > LX. DoubleSlot would solve the power/size problem, but not the lack of DOS drivers. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:54:11 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alessandro Dardani Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alessandro Dardani Subject: Re: HP200LX 2Mb For Sale Comments: To: Cgldent@aol.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" sorry I have sold it regards Alessandro Dardani At 13.23 09/06/00 EDT, Cgldent@aol.com wrote: >I'm interested! >Col in LA. > Alessandro Dardani ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Piaggio S.p.A. Divisione Veicoli Prototipi e Prove ----------------------------------------------------------------------- tel +39.0587.272241 dardani@piaggio.com fax +39.0587.272827 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:03:43 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: 200lx Connectivity Pack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a few questions about the 200LX connectivity pack: Just how much does it emulate the 200LX? It seems to run some .exm files and there's an x-finder version for it. Do other .exms work as well? What's the story on getting ti to work on a CGA screen? It it possible? Can it run on an HP100CX or a XT type machine like the Poqet or ZEOS? Is there a FAQ? Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:25:23 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@juno.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Fluff, is this fer reel???? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi y'all Got dis in my mail... Thought it wuz inneresting to pass on.... --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- We Knew this was coming!! Bill 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent charge on every delivered email. Please read the following carefully if you intend to stay online and continue using E-mail: The last few months have=20 revealed an alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to quietly push through legislation that will affect your use of the Internet. Under proposed legislation the US Postal Service will be attempting to bill E-mail users out of "alternate postage fees." Bill 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every E-mail delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington DC lawyer Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from becoming law. The US. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due to the proliferation of email is costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per year. You may have seen their recent ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter." Since the average received about 10 pieces of e-mail per day in 1998, the cost to the typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. Note that this would be money paid directly to the US Postal Service for a service they do not even provide. The whole point of the Internet is democracy and noninterference. If the federal government is permitted to tamper with end. You are already paying an exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureaucratic efficiency. It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from New York to Buffalo. If the US Postal Service is allowed to tinker with email, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the United States. One Congressman, Tony Schnell, has even suggested a "twenty to forty dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the government's proposed email charges. Note that most of the major newspapers have ignored the story, The only exception being the Washingtonian which called the Idea of email surcharge "a useful concept who's time has come" (March 6th 1999 Editorial). Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away. Send this e-mail to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all your friends and relatives to write to their congressman and say "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few moments of your time, and could very well be instrumental in killing a bill we don't want! ------------------------------------- Kate Turner - Assistant to Richard Stepp, Berber, Stepp and Gorman Attorneys at Law 216 Concorde Street, Vienna, VA David Marek Senior Vice President --------- End forwarded message ---------- yor pal al................ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:29:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Fluff, is this fer reel???? Comments: To: "hobchi@juno.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/xemailtax.html >-----Original Message----- >From: hobchi Ýmailto:hobchi@YAHOO.COM¨ >Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 4:25 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Fluff, is this fer reel???? > > >Hi y'all >Got dis in my mail... >Thought it wuz inneresting to pass on.... > >--------- Begin forwarded message ---------- >We Knew this was coming!! Bill 602P will permit the Federal >Govt. to charge a 5 cent charge on every delivered email. >Please read the following carefully if you intend to stay >online and continue using E-mail: The last few months >have=20 >revealed >an alarming trend in the Government of the United States >attempting to quietly push through legislation that will >affect your use of the Internet. Under proposed legislation >the snipt ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:37:18 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Fluff, is this fer reel???? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" BTW: Always be skeptical of email messages that encourage you to 'send this to everyone!!!' .. and definitely don't forward them to a mailing list where everyone can snicker at you falling for it ;¬> . (I been there, done that :-/ ) >-----Original Message----- >From: Ed Padin Ýmailto:epadin@WAGWEB.COM¨ >Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 4:30 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Fluff, is this fer reel???? > > >http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/xemailtax.html > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: hobchi Ýmailto:hobchi@YAHOO.COM¨ >>Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 4:25 PM >>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Fluff, is this fer reel???? >> >> >>Hi y'all >>Got dis in my mail... >>Thought it wuz inneresting to pass on.... >> >>--------- Begin forwarded message ---------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:37:12 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@juno.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: superMemo is great Comments: To: ddvteach@JUNO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii yesh, super Memo is great.... --- D Dv wrote: > The SUPER site has a flashcard program based on the > built-in database. > (I think is called Flashcard). Another one is called > Pgmquiz. > Also, on SIMTEL there are several DOS flash card > programs. My favorite > is > a program called SuperMemo. There are several versions > (2, 4, 5 & 6). > I personally prefer version 5. The program has some > problems with the > colors. > > Domingo > > On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:15:19 -0500 John Cobb > writes: > > That's a great idea and I have used the built-in > database in the past > > and it > > works fairly well. Unfortunately, the question can only > be as long > > as will fit > > on 1 line of the screen (At least as far as I know) > when using the > > database in > > its columnar mode. I would like to be able have 1 > question per > > screen appear > > without the question length limitation. Would you know > a way to do > > this using > > the built-in database? > > > > Michael Stocker wrote: > > > > > How about just using the notepad or database? > > > > > > > Is anybody aware of any flashcard type of programs > out there > > that will > > > > run on the 200LX? > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:40:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stuart Gray Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stuart Gray Subject: error Writing to ATA card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a 16Mb ATA flash card from Impact cards, compressed using Jam. I = have a programme (TopSpeed C) which will run, nut when it links or compil= es a file, it kicks up "error writing to drive f:" (the compressed volume= ). It also does the same on an uncompressed part of the disk, and if the= compiler is copied to the C: drive, but the data files left on the ATA, = the same problem occurs. The machine is a 1Mb single speed 200LX, so I c= an't run the whole thing from the internal disk. Have I bought the wrong= PC card? Do I need a driver? Does the IBM Micro drive (CF+adaptor) wor= k in an LX? Any help gratefully received. Stuart Complete Threedom: http://home.clara.net/srtgray/ Psion 3c, PsiMail Internet and Siemens S25 phone. Now _that's_ mobile computing ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:42:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Who is John Galt Comments: To: Curtis Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curtis Cameron" Subject: Re: Who is John Galt > > The quote from the book (I think it was AS, but maybe it was The > Fountainhead) that I use the most is "contradictions don't exist - > check your assumptions." I used this one Friday. Interesting. I'm fond of saying things like we live in a world of contradictions, being pretty contradictory ourselves. Does that make you a right wing radical and me a commie pinko? :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:55:05 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: fluff 200LX serial cable question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Double-negatives confused me in English 101 too. >- Longden it's as easy as 123... :) A linguistics professor was lecturing his class at some length. "In English," he explained, "a double negative forms a positive. In some languages, such as Russian, a double negative is still a negative." "However," the professor droned on, "there is no known language wherein a double positive can form a negative." Whereupon a tired voice from the back of the room responded: "Yeah, right." --------------- Take SPACE.com to the beach: Put our handheld edition in your palmtop http://www.space.com/cgi-bin/email/gate.cgi?lk=T1&date=000609&go=/news/avant go/index.php3 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:03:24 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Fluff, is this fer reel???? Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Padin wrote: > > BTW: Always be skeptical of email messages that encourage you to 'send this > to everyone!!!' .. and definitely don't forward them to a mailing list > where everyone can snicker at you falling for it ;¬> . > > (I been there, done that :-/ ) > Nice Catch, Ed! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:06:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: What wear.exe does (I think) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>want to know is what WEAR.EXE *does* so my microcontrollers that use Flash cards can potentially do the same...<<<<<< I missed this part of your question last time. I'm probably not the best qualified to answer this, having only used PCMCIA as a user, but I can tell you what I've read. As I understand it, wear does 2 things. First it balances usage. As you write more and more to a sector it begins to take longer and longer to write to until finally it times out and gives an error. Early cards were rated at about 100k writes before this should become a problem. I think current ones are rated at a million writes or more. Wear writes to each sector and times it. Then if some sectors are beginning to slow down it swaps their data with data on faster sectors. This lets all the sectors wear more evenly and last longer. Also, if it finds some bad or nearly bad sectors, it replaces them with extra sectors built into the card for just that purpose. I have no idea how many extra sectors there are. I read this several years ago and I'm not sure wear.exe does both of these things or if wear does the first and the card automatically does the second. I think wear does both. I think newer cards do these things themselves without a program. By the way, wear.exe only works on an lx palmtop. It'll refuse to run on any other pc, declaring that it's not an LX palmtop. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:09:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: flashcard program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>Is anybody aware of any flashcard type of programs out there that will run on the 200LX? I need to memorize lots of info for my job and I think the HP might work well for this if I can find the right program.<<<<< If you don't find anything tailor made for this, any database program will do it. Including the built in database. You might want larger text but other than that it should do just fine. Put the question on top and the answer on bottom where you have to hit page down to see it. With macros you could make it fancier. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:13:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: ZoneAlarm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>Yesterday I posted a message re: ZoneAlarm problems, which returned exactly "zero" responses. This causes me to think that not too many are aware of this utility, so I'd like to provide a couple of URL's which will lead to some very interesting reading concerning intrusion.>>>> I've seen demos of ZoneAlarm on ZDTV. I currently have a dial-up ISP and I don't feel a need for it. But it looks like I'll have DSL available in a month or two and I'll sure get it then. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:36:38 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Who is John Galt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can we return to (semi-)LX topics now? I'm getting tired of deleting all the Ann Rand and MS court arguments. Thanks, Russ (aka: The Monday morning grump...) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:49:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: HP100LX as PDA functionality? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I'd been figuring on finding a 1000cx, but those are too darn rare. > Need to get this going soon. A 100LX or 200LX is the same as a 1000CX if you don't load System Manager. The only reason to get a 1000CX is to save money if you never need the PDA functions of System Manager. You don't get more DOS memory or any other bonuses from a 1000CX that I know of. > For just the basic Address Book, Appointment Book, To-Do type of PDA > use, is there any significant difference between a DS 100LX and a DS > 200LX in terms of bugs, speed, behavior, etc.? The programs are identical except for a few minor cosmetic changes. The main difference I can think of off hand is that the 200LX has a "datacard" view in the database, phone, and Notetaker programs. The 200LX does have a newer PCMCIA card slot, so it can use some cards that the 100LX requires a special driver for. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:50:01 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Fluff: Re: Who is John Galt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Does that make you a right wing radical and me a commie pinko? :) Right wing and left wing refer IMHO to which group of elites you want running the governement. Right wing = those with economic power. Left wing = the "intellectuals". Ann Rand would be a Libertarian and deny either group of elites the right to run t he government. Steve Carder (who has an actual Libertarian Party membership card) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:58:08 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff, is this fer reel???? Comments: To: hobchi@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "hobchi" To: Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 4:25 PM Subject: Fluff, is this fer reel???? > Hi y'all > Got dis in my mail... > Thought it wuz inneresting to pass on.... > > --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- > We Knew this was coming!! Bill 602P will permit the Federal > Govt. to charge a 5 cent charge on every delivered email. > Please read the following carefully if you intend to stay > online and continue using E-mail: The last few months > have=20 > revealed > an alarming trend in the Government of the United States > attempting to quietly push through legislation that will > affect your use of the Internet. Under proposed legislation > the > US Postal Service will be attempting to bill E-mail users > out > of "alternate postage fees." Bill 602P will permit the > Federal > Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every E-mail > delivered, > by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The > consumer > would then be billed in turn by the ISP. > > Washington DC lawyer Richard Stepp is working without pay > to prevent this legislation from becoming law. The US. > Postal > Service is claiming that lost revenue due to the > proliferation > of email is costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per > year. > You may have seen their recent ad campaign "There is > nothing > like a letter." Since the average received about 10 pieces > of > e-mail per day in 1998, the cost to the typical individual > would > be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 dollars per > year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. > Note that this would be money paid directly to the US > Postal > Service for a service they do not even provide. > > The whole point of the Internet is democracy and > noninterference. If the federal government is permitted to > tamper with end. You are already paying an exorbitant price > for snail mail because of bureaucratic efficiency. > > It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be > delivered from > New York to Buffalo. If the US Postal Service is allowed to > tinker with email, it will mark the end of the "free" > Internet > in the United States. > One Congressman, Tony Schnell, has even suggested a > "twenty to forty dollar per month surcharge on all Internet > service" above and beyond the government's proposed email > charges. > > Note that most of the major newspapers have ignored the > story, > The only exception being the Washingtonian which called the > Idea of email surcharge "a useful concept who's time has > come" > (March 6th 1999 Editorial). Don't sit by and watch your > freedoms erode away. > > Send this e-mail to EVERYONE on your list, and tell all > your > friends and relatives to write to their congressman and say > "No!" to Bill 602P. It will only take a few moments of your > time, and could very well be instrumental in killing a bill > we > don't want! > ------------------------------------- > Kate Turner - Assistant to Richard Stepp, Berber, Stepp and > Gorman > Attorneys at Law > 216 Concorde Street, > Vienna, VA > David Marek > Senior Vice President > --------- End forwarded message ---------- > > yor pal al................ > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! > http://photos.yahoo.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > *******************NEW MESSAGE************ File the last message under "Urban Myths." That is all it is. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:08:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Cobb Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Cobb Subject: Re: Flashcards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all the suggestions. I've downloaded SuperMemo and will give that a try. Best regards John Cobb ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:19:40 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Malakias@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Francisco Gomez Malagon Subject: Re: Flashcards Comments: To: ejc5@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will be traveling. Please remove my address from your circulation list. Thanks + Regards ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:36:27 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: Re: OT: ZoneAlarm In-Reply-To: <004501bfd4b3$18888d60$9ffc36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Barry - I have dial-up service as well, and after observing what actually is taking place (behind the scenes) and how often it's happening to me, I gotta say that if my ZoneAlarm firewall breaks down, I'll be unplugging my phone line at the card & it'll stay unplugged till the firewall is up again. The only difference between dial-up & dsl/cable (as far as ZA is concerned) is that 24/7 protection is required for a 24/7 hookup. The gremlins are most definitely out there, trying continually to get in. Entire addressing blocks are scanned at high speed by these guys, using high tech software that does thousands of addresses at a time, looking for active ports, which return an open or closed signal. Closed signals are saved carefully for further perusal, and indicate in the affirmative that there's a live machine sitting at that address. ZA technology absorbs the signal, putting the ports in "stealth" mode. ZA also prevents any trojans (which unlike viruses sit undetected within code) from sending outbound signals upon the init of your browser, alerting you at the time it happens. If you would like to check your entire coding against these guys, there's a free for 30 days program at Steve Gibsons site called OptOut which will reveal them. Many are included in software downloaded from the net. I believe a ver of RealPlayer was guilty of this, among others. Upon running OptOut on my machine, 2 were found and subsequently deleted. Once again, Steve's site is a wealth of information - http://www.grc.com/ He used to have a link to ZA, I'm not sure if he still does - http://www.zonelabs.com/ All this stuff is easily installed. Click on news at ZoneLabs for more in-depth coverage of the subject. It's quite enlightening. I've received several msgs (off-list) from list members assuring me that they too use ZA, and don't plan to stop using it anytime soon. I've yet to get a msg from someone who reports any kind of problem (similar to mine or otherwise) with it. If they suddenly jumped up and wanted to charge me $150- to continue using it, I believe I'd pay it. At 04:13 PM 6/12/00 -0500, you wrote: >I've seen demos of ZoneAlarm on ZDTV. I currently have a dial-up >ISP and I don't feel a need for it. But it looks like I'll have DSL >available in a month or two and I'll sure get it then. > >Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:40:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: OT: ZoneAlarm Comments: To: freeway@UIA.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, To check if your site is already well protected or not (mostly for those not using ZoneAlarm, I guess): Shield's Up https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 Does anyone know if I'm still at risk if Shield's Up reports me as well protected? Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: T. McCoy To: Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 8:36 PM Subject: Re: OT: ZoneAlarm > Hi Barry - > > I have dial-up service as well, and after observing what actually is taking > place (behind the scenes) and how often it's happening to me, I gotta say > that if my ZoneAlarm firewall breaks down, I'll be unplugging my phone line > at the card & it'll stay unplugged till the firewall is up again. The only > difference between dial-up & dsl/cable (as far as ZA is concerned) is that > 24/7 protection is required for a 24/7 hookup. The gremlins are most > definitely out there, trying continually to get in. Entire addressing > blocks are scanned at high speed by these guys, using high tech software > that does thousands of addresses at a time, looking for active ports, which > return an open or closed signal. Closed signals are saved carefully for > further perusal, and indicate in the affirmative that there's a live > machine sitting at that address. ZA technology absorbs the signal, putting > the ports in "stealth" mode. ZA also prevents any trojans (which unlike > viruses sit undetected within code) from sending outbound signals upon the > init of your browser, alerting you at the time it happens. If you would > like to check your entire coding against these guys, there's a free for 30 > days program at Steve Gibsons site called OptOut which will reveal them. > Many are included in software downloaded from the net. I believe a ver of > RealPlayer was guilty of this, among others. Upon running OptOut on my > machine, 2 were found and subsequently deleted. > > Once again, Steve's site is a wealth of information - > http://www.grc.com/ > He used to have a link to ZA, I'm not sure if he still does - > http://www.zonelabs.com/ > All this stuff is easily installed. Click on news at ZoneLabs for more > in-depth coverage of the subject. It's quite enlightening. > > I've received several msgs (off-list) from list members assuring me that > they too use ZA, and don't plan to stop using it anytime soon. I've yet to > get a msg from someone who reports any kind of problem (similar to mine or > otherwise) with it. If they suddenly jumped up and wanted to charge me > $150- to continue using it, I believe I'd pay it. > > At 04:13 PM 6/12/00 -0500, you wrote: > >I've seen demos of ZoneAlarm on ZDTV. I currently have a dial-up > >ISP and I don't feel a need for it. But it looks like I'll have DSL > >available in a month or two and I'll sure get it then. > > > >Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:47:29 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: error Writing to ATA card Comments: cc: srtgray@CLARA.CO.UK >I have a 16Mb ATA flash card from Impact cards, compressed using >Jam. I have a programme (TopSpeed C) which will run, nut when it >links or compiles a file, it kicks up "error writing to drive f:" >(the compressed volume). It also does the same on an >uncompressed part of the disk, and if the compiler is copied to >the C: drive, but the data files left on the ATA, the same >problem occurs. The machine is a 1Mb single speed 200LX, so I c >an't run the whole thing from the internal disk. Have I bought the >wrong PC card? Do I need a driver? Does the IBM Micro drive >(CF+adaptor) work in an LX? Any help gratefully received. Message-Id: <20000613054724.QSOD1339.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.154.200¨> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 05:47:36 +0000 Just a suggestion, since I'm not familiar with the card, the program nor do I use Jam... since the LX is evidently having problems writing to the card, maybe a quick short-term solution would be to leave the compiler on the disk and put all the data files on the internal (C:) drive. I believe the topic of the the IBM Microdrive has come up before, and that the power specs were too high ... but don't quote me on that. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:48:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 200lx Connectivity Pack Comments: cc: epadin@WAGWEB.COM >I have a few questions about the 200LX connectivity pack: >Just how much does it emulate the 200LX? It seems to run some .exm >files and there's an x-finder version for it. Do other .exms work >as well? Message-Id: <20000613054801.QSPZ1339.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.154.200¨> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 05:48:10 +0000 I've not been able to get supplemental exms, copied from the LX, to work in CPACK on my laptops. Other than that, its emulation of the built-in basic apps (database, phone, notetaker, calculator, memo, appt) seem to be pretty much a clone of the LX version. >Can it run on an HP100CX or a XT type machine like the >Poqet or ZEOS? Don't know, never tried ... only have run this on machines with VGA and better. >Is there a FAQ? It comes with a printed guide, tho I've lost mine long ago so I can't tell you how helpful it'd be. Don't know of any other FAQ besides. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:32:26 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: removing address from your circulation list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:19:40 EDT >From: Francisco Gomez Malagon >Subject: Re: Flashcards > >I will be traveling. Please remove my address from your circulation list. Hi, this can be a self-service function. Just send a request "SET HPLX-L NoMail" (without the quotes) in the body of a message to the list server at LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU . You will get a reply within a minute confirming your request. And when you decide to receive mails again from HPLX-L list after your travels, just send another request "SET HPLX-L Mail" (without the quotes) in the body of a message to the list server at LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU . Cheers. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:06:52 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Eng. & Industrial Projects" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Eng. & Industrial Projects" Subject: No mail getting thro? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have I been unsubscribed? | Engineering & Industrial Projects | P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231 | Ph/Fx: +61 8 9795 4650 Mob. 0412 909 684 | e-mail 1: industrial_projects@technologist.com | e-mail 2: danaan@opera.iinet.net.au | web: http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Mine/6505/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:07:20 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Eng. & Industrial Projects" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Eng. & Industrial Projects" Subject: No mail getting through? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have I been unsubscribed? | Engineering & Industrial Projects | P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231 | Ph/Fx: +61 8 9795 4650 Mob. 0412 909 684 | e-mail 1: industrial_projects@technologist.com | e-mail 2: danaan@opera.iinet.net.au | web: http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Mine/6505/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:36:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Email charges MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>We Knew this was coming!! Bill 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent charge on every delivered email.<<< I saw a story about this on CNN a 2 or 3 weeks ago. I'm sure it's the same bill. I don't remember details but it was about taxing email. Unless the situation has changed there isn't much threat. There are 2 or 3 congressmen pushing for this and they have a couple of committed votes but that was all the interest they were able to muster at that time. Most are saying just leave the internet alone. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:48:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Compiling on flash card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>I have a 16Mb ATA flash card from Impact cards, compressed using Jam. I = have a programme (TopSpeed C) which will run, nut when it links or compil= es a file, it kicks up "error writing to drive f:" (the compressed volume=<<<< I've never tried exactly what youre doing but I'm not surprised that it causes problems. I use Turbo C all the time and I have all the libraries and include files and even the binaries on drive A: (mine isn't compressed) but I do all the compiling on drive C:. That means all the writing is done on drive c. A compiler writes a lot of stuff a little bit at a time. The card would see that as a lot of multiple writes one right after the other. Writing draws a lot of power and your batteries might not be able to handle it that much in that short a time. Alkalines are the weakest when it comes to this. I believe Nicads provide the most power in short bursts. If you arent using Nicads you might try that. But your real solution might be to do the compiling on drive C:. I'm just guessing that that's your problem but I wouldnt be surprised if it is. By the way, this often results in areas of corruption on the drive so if it the problem you might consider reformatting the drive when it's solved. In fact, there might be corrpution now that could give you the same error so you might not know it's solved until you reformat it. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:51:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Plagerizing jokes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > A linguistics professor was lecturing his class at some length. I told that joke here 3 or 4 weeks ago. Although your version was shorter and maybe your punch line was better. But that only makes it worse :) I wonder if we should consider putting this joke in the faq. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:56:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Ayn Rand's government MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>Ann Rand would be a Libertarian and deny either group of elites the right to run t he government.<<< I wonder if Ayn Rand would think the people who have the right to a place in th government are those with the money to buy it. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:05:06 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Email charges Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <001d01bfd53c$68c29580$77fc36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Interesting concept. Here in Australia the main carrier Telstra charges a per MB levy to the ISP's that is about US$0.12 per MB for sending data. How is US Govt going to charge non US people for emails? Russell At 08:36 AM 6/13/00 -0500, you wrote: >>>>We Knew this was coming!! Bill 602P will permit the Federal >Govt. to charge a 5 cent charge on every delivered email.<<< ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:07:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: ZoneAlarm and Real Player MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>If you would like to check your entire coding against these guys, there's a free for 30 days program at Steve Gibsons site called OptOut which will reveal them. Many are included in software downloaded from the net. I believe a ver of RealPlayer was guilty of this, among others. Upon running OptOut on my machine, 2 were found and subsequently deleted.<<<< ZDTV also discussed Real Player in conjunction with ZoneAlarm. They said that Real designed their players to send to them statistical information and lists of sites visited by your browser and that they in turn were selling this to others. They said they got a lot of bad PR about it and claim they have stopped doing it. ZDTV didn't know whether they have actually stopped it or not. If they have stopped doing that you might have an older version. Another popular program that does this is Go!Zilla (which I use). OptOut won't correct it or Go!Zilla won't run if it does. I forget which. But if you register Go!Zilla for $25 instead of using their free version it'll stop doing that. However, the little server from the old one is still there so you need OptOut to get rid of that. They listed a bunch of common programs that do that. These are the only ones I remember. Each of them installs a server to handle that and the server is no longer directly associated with the program, so if you remove the offending program it still keeps on working. Again, OptOut is the solution. Obviously you guys are working too much and not watching enough TV. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:04:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > The programs are identical except for a few minor cosmetic changes. The main difference I can think of > off hand is that the 200LX has a "datacard" view in the database, phone, and Notetaker programs. > The 200LX does have a newer PCMCIA card slot, so it can use some cards that the 100LX requires a special > driver for. This question about the differences between 100LX and 200LX is answered in detail by the FAQ, a wonderful resource not to be forgotten. Find it at: http://www.hplx.net/faq.faq.html Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:48:54 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , pierriot@PALMTOP.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: More than one sender was specified. Second and following senders discarded. From: pierriot@PALMTOP.COM Subject: FWD: cpl/IFR navagation Software?q MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- begin of forwarded message --- Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:28:35 -0400 To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU From: user@domain.name (pierrot@palmtop.com) Subscriber Comments: I have a cpl/IFR lic. and I'm looking for navigation software for my HP200 ....can you help me ? --- end of forwarded message --- * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:37:43 -0400 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: Subnetting calculator? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of a subnetting calculator that can be used with the 200LX? Thanks. Jim ---- James Henry - Supervisor, Field Systems Engineering Comcast Commercial Online 215-655-8186 pager: 888-649-6254 cell: 215-768-0595 jhenry@comcastwork.com www.comcastwork.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:44:20 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: Databases was flashcard program Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi all I followed some of the thread on GDBWin (or something like that) but I'm still not clear on which program to use to convert HP-LX database files to text (or another common format viewable on PC eg DBase or Excel or 123) and visa versa. I primarily want to import a lot of data into the HP, but I'd like to sync the changes that I have made. I suppose if I have the file structure info it will be sufficient, but I think someone else has already done the hard work. That's what I'd like to avoid. Can you please enlighten me? If this question has been asked to many times, please give me some pointers in private. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry ÝSMTP:barry@FBTC.NET¨ > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 11:10 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: flashcard program > > >>>>Is anybody aware of any flashcard type of programs out there > that will > run on the 200LX? I need to memorize lots of info for my job and I > think > the HP might work well for this if I can find the right > program.<<<<< > > If you don't find anything tailor made for this, any database > program will do it. Including the built in database. You might > want larger text but other than that it should do just fine. > > Put the question on top and the answer on bottom where you have to > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:02:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Vela_Javier@EMC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Javier Vela Subject: HP200LX Software running on W98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does any of the distribution list have available a copy of the HP200LX software that can run on the PC with W98 and emulate the HP200LX? Thanks in advance. Best. Javier Vela ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:19:02 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: Re: ZoneAlarm and Real Player Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <002d01bfd540$aa830640$77fc36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:07 AM 6/13/00 -0500, you wrote: >ZDTV also discussed Real Player in conjunction with ZoneAlarm. They >said that Real designed their players to send to them statistical >information and lists of sites visited by your browser and that they >in turn were selling this to others. They said they got a lot of >bad PR about it and claim they have stopped doing it. ZDTV didn't >know whether they have actually stopped it or not. > >If they have stopped doing that you might have an older version. I do have an older version, now that you mention it. I had to go to an old version when the new version had conflicts with ZA. Seems ZA was preventing it from reaching it's netserver. >Another popular program that does this is Go!Zilla (which I use). >OptOut won't correct it or Go!Zilla won't run if it does. I forget >which. But if you register Go!Zilla for $25 instead of using their >free version it'll stop doing that. However, the little server from >the old one is still there so you need OptOut to get rid of that. I tried GoZilla for a few days and the minus's outweighed the plus's on my particular machine. (slow 150mhz with 16megs) >They listed a bunch of common programs that do that. These are the >only ones I remember. Each of them installs a server to handle that >and the server is no longer directly associated with the program, so >if you remove the offending program it still keeps on working. >Again, OptOut is the solution. I agree. If I remember correctly OptOut either removed the offending program code (the entire executable) or it recommended I do it manually. The programs and all concerned are history, I'm sure of that. >Obviously you guys are working too much and not watching enough TV. >:) Who's got time for tv with all this dam mail to read? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:41:25 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: HP200LX Software running on W98 Comments: To: Vela_Javier@EMC.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't think you can do a true emulation. Even Connectivity Pack, which does the basics, does not do it all (nor does it for free). If you're looking to emulate certain features of the LX, you may need to be more specific about which features/applications or files you need to work with on W98, and how much you want to pay. - Longden Javier Vela on 06/13/2000 09:02:07 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Vela_Javier@EMC.COM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: HP200LX Software running on W98 Does any of the distribution list have available a copy of the HP200LX software that can run on the PC with W98 and emulate the HP200LX? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:50:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "David B. Rogers" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David B. Rogers" Subject: Info on Diconix portable ink jet printer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know the specs (voltage, current rating, polarity) for the a.c. adapter for one of the little Diconix portable ink jet printers? Is there a driver disk for this printer? Thanks, David, WA7ZYQ -- "Them that's got is them that gets, but how you get the first is still a mystery to me." Ray Charles ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:56:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Souza, Stephen Mr (C623D)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Souza, Stephen Mr (C623D)" Subject: Re: Info on Diconix portable ink jet printer Comments: To: "David B. Rogers" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a photo copy of the manual, I plan to scan it do disk and dump the paper. Stephen Souza System Administrator COMNAVSURFLANT *TEL: (757) 836-3204 *DSN: 836-3204 *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil -----Original Message----- From: David B. Rogers Ýmailto:dr7zyq@NIDLINK.COM¨ Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:50 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Info on Diconix portable ink jet printer Does anyone know the specs (voltage, current rating, polarity) for the a.c. adapter for one of the little Diconix portable ink jet printers? Is there a driver disk for this printer? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:11:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives Comments: To: rlbrooks@POBOX.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 7 Jun 2000 18:05:13 +0000 Russel Brooks writes: > Bill Krauss wrote: > > Searchable archives ARE very valuable. Hope can find a way to > keep them (up to a full year would be better). > > I agree, searchable archives are valuable. That's why I download the > monthly Zip files so I can do the searches on my desktop. I keep a > full set of the current List as well as the previous list that Mitch used > to host. Would you happen to know how to get the archives from Mitch site? They are no longer up. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:01:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: OT: ZoneAlarm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After seeing this thread I downloaded the Gibson program and ZoneAlarm. The Gibson program found and cleaned out some spy programs. ZoneAlarm keeps asking me if I should let ARUpld32.exe access the Internet (right after loading Internet Explorer). After a while I decided to answer no permanently, with no apparent ill effect. My questions are: 1-What does ARUpld32.exe do? If it is not needed, how do I get rid of it? 2-Should I be surprised that the only time I noticed an intrusion with ZoneAlarm was right after exiting Hotmail and being taken automatically to the Microsoft site? Those sites are also two of the few which refuse to load unless I allow multiple cookies to load on my pc. Perhaps I should stay away from them . . . Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:07:18 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: 200lx Connectivity Pack Comments: To: epadin@WAGWEB.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:03:43 -0400 Ed Padin writes: > I have a few questions about the 200LX connectivity pack: > > Just how much does it emulate the 200LX? It seems to run some .exm > files and there's an x-finder version for it. Do other .exms work as well? I did not know that and have not tried it. > What's the story on getting ti to work on a CGA screen? It it > possible? Can it run on an HP100CX or a XT type machine like the Poqet or ZEOS? A japanese user reported using it on the HP1000CX, by REMing cg.exe out of the .bat file. I don't believe it will work on an XT type machine, as the progam ciaims to need a 286 (which as we know often works on the hplx family, but not on an XT). Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:08:18 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: HP200LX Software running on W98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yet another wish list entry.... I would like to see a solution that is similar to the palm emulators out there. You create an operating environment that simulates the hardware architecture and then copy the ROM image from your device to it and execute. Since you already own the 200LX you already have the ROM image so there are no copyright issues. You should be able to run all the Apps stored in ROM as well as EXMS and anything that runs on the LX. I gotta imagine that the best hope we have is to use the desktop/Windows 98 version of XTCE to do that. If that can be accomplished you would have a true 200LX emulation on the desktop. >-----Original Message----- >From: Longden Loo Ýmailto:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM¨ >Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:41 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ HP200LX Software running on W98 > > >I don't think you can do a true emulation. Even Connectivity >Pack, which does >the basics, does not do it all (nor does it for free). > >If you're looking to emulate certain features of the LX, you >may need to be more >specific about which features/applications or files you need >to work with on >W98, and how much you want to pay. > >- Longden > > > > > >Javier Vela on 06/13/2000 09:02:07 AM > >Please respond to HPLX Mailing List >; Please respond > to Vela_Javier@EMC.COM > >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) >Subject: HP200LX Software running on W98 > > > >Does any of the distribution list have available a copy of the HP200LX >software that can run on the PC with W98 and emulate the HP200LX? > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:04:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Backlighting canceled Comments: cc: "David Sargeant (E-mail)" , "Mack Baggette (E-mail)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Everyone, I am sorry to have to announce that we are canceling the backlighting project -- at least for now. The electronics, film, panel, and software all seem to work. Unfortunately, we have been unable to come up with a reliable, consistent procedure for the first step -- removing reflective film and sticker from the palmtop screen. With some palmtops, the film peels right off as one unit and leaves no residue. With the harder ones, it rips up, and leaves huge chunks of polarizer on the screen to be removed, and leaves a lot of adhesive residue on the screen that has to be painstakingly scraped and cleaned off (can take over 2 hours) with danger of damaging the screen. Since David Sargeant did most of the experimentation, he can answer any questions on specifics. This was the problem Mack warned us about all along. The bottom line is that we still don't know if and when we will ever be able to offer backlighting, so we are publicly canceling the project. If anybody on the list has ideas or feel they can help, please email David or I publicly or privately as appropriate. We have a number of damaged screens that can be used for practice. I am truly sorry for the delays and the cancellation. Hal Goldstein President Thaddeus Computing ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:14:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , robert c lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: robert c lewis Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: Hal Goldstein In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Was any sort of solvent used to remove the backing? It sounds as if it is held on by some sort of glue or something. Rob On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Hal Goldstein wrote: > polarizer on the screen to be removed, and leaves a lot of adhesive residue > on the screen that has to be painstakingly scraped and cleaned off (can > take over 2 hours) with danger of damaging the screen. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:18:03 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( Damn' that sux.... anybody hear anything about the Morphy one? >-----Original Message----- >From: Hal Goldstein Ýmailto:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨ >Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:05 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Backlighting canceled >Importance: High > > >Hi Everyone, > >I am sorry to have to announce that we are canceling the backlighting >project -- at least for now. > >The electronics, film, panel, and software all seem to work. >Unfortunately, >we have been unable to come up with a reliable, consistent >procedure for the >first step -- removing reflective film and sticker from the >palmtop screen. >With some palmtops, the film peels right off as one unit and leaves no >residue. With the harder ones, it rips up, and leaves huge chunks of >polarizer on the screen to be removed, and leaves a lot of >adhesive residue >on the screen that has to be painstakingly scraped and >cleaned off (can >take over 2 hours) with danger of damaging the screen. > >Since David Sargeant did most of the experimentation, he can answer any >questions on specifics. This was the problem Mack warned us >about all along. > >The bottom line is that we still don't know if and when we >will ever be able >to offer backlighting, so we are publicly canceling the project. > >If anybody on the list has ideas or feel they can help, please >email David >or I publicly or privately as appropriate. We have a number of damaged >screens that can be used for practice. > >I am truly sorry for the delays and the cancellation. > > >Hal Goldstein >President >Thaddeus Computing > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:32:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My condolences, to the project, the sponsors and all the buyers in waiting. Any special thanks to David for all his efforts and sacrifice (not to mention that of his family) in the face of medical and logistical problems. Ironic that all the technical wizardry is undone by recalcitrant glue. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:25:04 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@juno.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: Fluff, is this fer reel???? Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Ed Padin wrote: > BTW: Always be skeptical of email messages that encourage > you to 'send this > to everyone!!!' .. and definitely don't forward them to > a mailing list > where everyone can snicker at you falling for it ;¬> . > > (I been there, done that :-/ ) > yor right, I just got back in town and my mind wuz diskonbobulated. Sorry bout dat. yor pal al................. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:43:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any way to identify whether a screen will be tricky or not? Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Goldstein" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:04 AM Subject: Backlighting canceled > Hi Everyone, > > I am sorry to have to announce that we are canceling the backlighting > project -- at least for now. > > The electronics, film, panel, and software all seem to work. Unfortunately, > we have been unable to come up with a reliable, consistent procedure for the > first step -- removing reflective film and sticker from the palmtop screen. > With some palmtops, the film peels right off as one unit and leaves no > residue. With the harder ones, it rips up, and leaves huge chunks of > polarizer on the screen to be removed, and leaves a lot of adhesive residue > on the screen that has to be painstakingly scraped and cleaned off (can > take over 2 hours) with danger of damaging the screen. > > Since David Sargeant did most of the experimentation, he can answer any > questions on specifics. This was the problem Mack warned us about all along. > > The bottom line is that we still don't know if and when we will ever be able > to offer backlighting, so we are publicly canceling the project. > > If anybody on the list has ideas or feel they can help, please email David > or I publicly or privately as appropriate. We have a number of damaged > screens that can be used for practice. > > I am truly sorry for the delays and the cancellation. > > > Hal Goldstein > President > Thaddeus Computing > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:44:51 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: robert c lewis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, What about that stuff you can use to remove window tinting? Any chance I could get my hand on a few screens to see if it works -- or sent you the tinting removal stuff? It's really harmless and worked really well on my car... Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert c lewis" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled > Was any sort of solvent used to remove the backing? It sounds as if it is > held on by some sort of glue or something. > > Rob > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Hal Goldstein wrote: > > > polarizer on the screen to be removed, and leaves a lot of adhesive residue > > on the screen that has to be painstakingly scraped and cleaned off (can > > take over 2 hours) with danger of damaging the screen. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:44:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Picture of 200LX at NASA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We have an upcoming article in the next HP Palmtop Paper (won't be out until end of July-- it is VERY late) about the HP 200LX being used on a shuttle mission. Our NASA contact just told us about the 200LX making their home page this week. > www.jpl.nasa.gov > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:53:55 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: Hal Goldstein In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I, for one, am most grateful for the attempt at the backlighting project. Perhaps an idea will come forward to allow you to proceed. Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:11:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <> According to David, at this time, no. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:21:26 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Goldstein" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:04 PM Subject: Backlighting canceled > Hi Everyone, > > I am sorry to have to announce that we are canceling the backlighting > project -- at least for now. > > The electronics, film, panel, and software all seem to work. Unfortunately, > we have been unable to come up with a reliable, consistent procedure for the > first step -- removing reflective film and sticker from the palmtop screen. > With some palmtops, the film peels right off as one unit and leaves no > residue. With the harder ones, it rips up, and leaves huge chunks of > polarizer on the screen to be removed, and leaves a lot of adhesive residue > on the screen that has to be painstakingly scraped and cleaned off (can > take over 2 hours) with danger of damaging the screen. > > Since David Sargeant did most of the experimentation, he can answer any > questions on specifics. This was the problem Mack warned us about all along. > > The bottom line is that we still don't know if and when we will ever be able > to offer backlighting, so we are publicly canceling the project. > > If anybody on the list has ideas or feel they can help, please email David > or I publicly or privately as appropriate. We have a number of damaged > screens that can be used for practice. > > I am truly sorry for the delays and the cancellation. > > > Hal Goldstein > President > Thaddeus Computing > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > *******************NEW MESSAGE********* How about using someithing like "Goo Gone?" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 06:46:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Re: Info on Diconix portable ink jet printer I have one at home and when I can get to it I'll see. IIRC the driver is on the Windows 3.11 disks. I think I have it installed on one of my computers--will look. Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Let the little children come to Me," Jesus said, "and don't keep them away. The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." -Matthew 19:14 On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:50:24 -0700 "David B. Rogers" writes: >Does anyone know the specs (voltage, current rating, >polarity) for the a.c. adapter for one of the little Diconix >portable ink jet printers? Is there a driver disk for this >printer? > >Thanks, > >David, WA7ZYQ > >-- >"Them that's got is them that gets, but how you get the >first is still a mystery to me." > Ray Charles > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:55:03 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: boot to DOS; sleep mode Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark, Instead of removing the 100 from autoexec.bat, add the following lines, which will allow you to boot to either DOS or System Manager. Echo Press CTRL-C to boot to DOS pause Ýadd any other commands here¨ 100 There is also a very useful shareware program called BUDDY that adds tons of features to the 100LX and 200LX, including a one-step process to unload System Manager when you want a pure DOS machine. Otherwise, press &ÝMore¨-MENU-T-A-ENTER to unload System Manager. To reload System Manager, type 100. Vic Roberts Vic On 1 Jun 2000 10:22:01, Mark Shields wrote: > Thanks for all the replies I've gotten so far! This sounds > great! > > However, it is a _100_LX I hope to get, not a 200. > > I hope to confirm that the 100LX also has sleep mode > and can have its autoexec/config files modified to > bypass the manager. > > Thanks! > > Mark > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:55:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Loss mitigation strategies.. Comments: To: Stanley Dobrowski MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stan, How could you leave your palmtop alone in the car? Don't you love your palmtop? Would you want your palmtop to leave YOU alone in the car? Vic On 29 May 2000 07:42:51 -0700, Stanley Dobrowski wrote: Ýsnip¨ > Also, when I am going to leave the palmtop in the car or > someplace where it could get stolen, I always take my > flashcard with me. All of the data and programs and backups > are on card so I keep it safe with me. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:57:11 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: The Commodore C64's Floppy disk drive Comments: To: "Peter W. Borders" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit There was a freeware DOS driver in the M100 SIG at one time. I know I have a copy, but doubt I can find it. Vic On 31 May 2000 15:20:25 -0700, "Peter W. Borders" wrote: > I knew as soon as I said that someone would ask for it. I will hunt > around but I was working on that about 10 computers ago and my > filing system leaves alot to be desired. If I find it I will post > something to the list so people can ask for a copy. > . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:34:36 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Goo gone is another good product worth trying. Good suggest Ken. =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:37:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: Re: OT: ZoneAlarm Comments: To: ddvteach@JUNO.COM In-Reply-To: <20000613.131521.-813281.0.ddvteach@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Domingo - Knowing you're awaiting a response, I'll do some best guesses. Hopefully with what's here & what I add, somebody will respond with authority. At 01:01 PM 6/13/00 -0400, you wrote: >After seeing this thread I downloaded the Gibson program and >ZoneAlarm. >The Gibson program found and cleaned out some spy programs. >ZoneAlarm keeps asking me if I should let ARUpld32.exe access the >Internet (right after loading Internet Explorer). After a while I >decided to answer >no permanently, with no apparent ill effect. My questions are: >1-What does ARUpld32.exe do? If it is not needed, how do I get rid of >it? Not sure. In my machine it's in c:\windows\intuit\shared\*.* It's called AccessRamp, and there's some reference to AOL within the code. It may be one part of the machine resident server files that Barry mentioned earlier. It being in a dir full of .dll's, called "shared", makes me hesitant to delete it. Comments anybody? If you've denied it access in ZA, you can always re-set it for full or limited access in the future. >2-Should I be surprised that the only time I noticed an intrusion with >ZoneAlarm was right after exiting Hotmail and being taken >automatically >to the Microsoft site? Those sites are also two of the few which refuse >to >load unless I allow multiple cookies to load on my pc. Perhaps I should >stay away from them . . . Give it a little time and you'll see action when the machine's at idle. It's my understanding (so far) that cookies are inert and site specific, and I believe ZA looks right thru 'em. I don't get alerted for cookies as far as I can tell. You'll know you're being probed when the alert box jumps up and says 4 (or more) hits received from (for instance) 137.99.26.3 (that is the ipblock address of the server that sends out this list), all within a timeframe of <1sec. I get 8 hit groups often. If you search out the address and ping 'em back, or otherwise respond, you may be exposing your hidden position. In a situation coming from the above address, if it were repeated and became annoying, you could run a search on 137.99. and determine the admin e-mail address and discuss it with them. Most outfits with block licenses will rapidly take care of downstream trouble. If that didn't produce results, then you'd go upstream a step to 137. and contact admin there. Spammers are dealt with quickly, hackers are a bit trickier, using relay servers. SamSpade.com or .org (hazy) has free tools for tracking. Again, very good stuff. Good luck! fwy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:50:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: Systems-Consulting In-Reply-To: <000a01bfd571$1b409020$aac60e18@enfld1.ct.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ummm.. Has anybody done a patent search? I'm unaware of the particulars, but there should be a patent registered on components used to build the LX. A patent process will reveal the techniques used in developement, and may provide a basis for reverse engineering. At 03:53 PM 6/13/00 -0400, you wrote: >I, for one, am most grateful for the attempt at the backlighting project. >Perhaps an idea will come forward to allow you to proceed. > > > >Thanks, > >Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting >89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 >tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 >web: http://Systems-Consulting.com >Maximizing the results of Information Systems > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:53:54 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20000613233436.KMDP9011.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Actually there is a new products, in the US at least, that is marketed for removing stickers. I can't think of the name but I think it is made by the same people that make Goo Gone. It is very easy to identify the product in the store though as it has a funny spatula shaped lip above the nozzle to aid in the removal of stickers. It is actually a solvent for the glue used by many stick on type applications and the really interesting feature is that when the solvent evaporates the sticker is sticky again, just like new. It might be worth a try on one of the damaged screens, don't know if it might effect other plastics involved though. Check any good sized home depot type store or even a large department store, they should have it, just look for the funny yellow (I think) scraper top. Pete On 13 Jun 2000, at 23:34, Bob Newins wrote: > Goo gone is another good product worth trying. Good suggest > Ken. =Bob= > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:54:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 13 Jun 2000, Hal Goldstein wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I am sorry to have to announce that we are canceling the backlighting > project -- at least for now. Hal, First, I want to thank you and everyone else involved in this project for all your hard work. It must be very frustrating to have to make this announcement. Perhaps it is time to revisit an LED front light. I have moved to the Lighting Research Center at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, www.lrc.rpi.edu. Among other things, we are involved in the development of solid state lighting, both LEDs and OLEDs. While we do not produce any of these devices, we work with all the leaders in the field of solid state lighting. I should be able to identify and get samples of the very best LEDs as they become available. With the help of others here, perhaps we can design a front light that does not have the installation problems of the backlight project you just put on hold. For faster response during the day, contact me at roberv@rpi.edu. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:12:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First - thanks to all who put so much hard work into this project. regardless of the outcome, you folks deserve a round of applause and thanks from all of us for the effort. Second- the other product I recall similar to goo gone is called Lift Off - I remember it being available at the AAFES base exchange service stations and it worked wonders on removing stickers from bumpers and labels off electronic gear. tnx much, john ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:42:13 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Info on Diconix portable ink jet printer Comments: To: "David B. Rogers" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For a Diconix 150/150 Plus Model AD-187 B Input 120VAC 60Hz 14W Output 9VDC 1A Center Pin Negative Various software packages support the Diconix and include drivers. Bob "David B. Rogers" wrote: > > Does anyone know the specs (voltage, current rating, > polarity) for the a.c. adapter for one of the little Diconix > portable ink jet printers? Is there a driver disk for this > printer? -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:01:48 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Diconix power supply, driver The Kodak Diconix printer power supply is 9 volts DC, 1 ampere. Center pin is negative and outer sleeve is positive. FWIW (and you may already know this), there are five batteries inside the platen, which I always thought was pretty clever. There is indeed a Diconix driver on the Windows 3.11 installation disks. I have it installed on one of my computers. Also FWIW, this printer is very similar internally to the HP compact printers and uses the same ink cartridge and, IIRC, the same control codes. I have one of them too. It's a fun little printer and I'm checking into possible solutions to having it connected to a 100LX or 200LX. Somewhere lurking in a desk drawer I have a generic serial to parallel converter. Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Let the little children come to Me," Jesus said, "and don't keep them away. The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." -Matthew 19:14 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 04:14:21 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Ironic that all the technical wizardry is undone by recalcitrant glue. If only the right hinge was as reliable! I wonder if heat (hair dryer) could be used to unstick but that would depend on which surface the glue adhered to. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:48:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled In-Reply-To: <20000614041421.DHTQ6885.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, F. Kaufman wrote: > I wonder if heat (hair dryer) could be used to unstick but that would > depend on which surface the glue adhered to. It adheres to glass, and heat is what I think will really help, but it has to be very gentle, directed heat -- the zebra strips are on either side of the adhesive being removed, and something like, say, a hair dryer, might cause the zebra strips to fly right off, which would make it virtually impossible to get the screen back together properly. Anybody have any ideas? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:55:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: backlighiting....... :-( MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Though it is sad that this long awaited for 'breakthrough' is not to be a= t least there are a few options. I like the LED light that has been produced here....Nice, but little too bulky for me. Now, I use one of the micron LED lights....White/blue. It is attached to= velcro and sticks to the = corner of my glasses with the velcro also serving as glare guide. It run= s for well over 10 hours continues. True, geek factor is really bad. BUT, on a very dark train or in my tent = in the middle of the forest, = i use it to read books or play with my palmtop. small, light, cheap and effective. Anyone else use this? dave PS. now, what excuse do I use to get 64 mb in my 200lx? Would have been= convenient to do = backlighting at the same time......what an excuse lost....bummer ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:11:06 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > It adheres to glass, and heat is what I think will really help, but it has > to be very gentle, directed heat -- the zebra strips are on either side of > the adhesive being removed, and something like, say, a hair dryer, might > cause the zebra strips to fly right off, which would make it virtually > impossible to get the screen back together properly. Anybody have any > ideas? How about a heat lamp? No moving air, and you could adjust the temperature by the distance. A big enough lamp should give fairly even heating too. Or by directed do you mean just apply heat to the adhesive area? Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:59:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Mike Kopplin wrote: > How about a heat lamp? No moving air, and you could adjust the > temperature by the distance. A big enough lamp should give fairly even > heating too. Or by directed do you mean just apply heat to the > adhesive area? That's what I mean -- it needs to be applied just to the adhesive area and not blow off to the sides like a hair dryer would. Perhaps a very small hot lamp placed right next to the rear of the screen for a few seconds could soften the adhesive enough to pull the reflective sticker off with no problems ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:13:25 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, what about a solving fluid (something like petrol or termentine or alcohol)? Or with heat? I din't know if the screen would survive it, but the adhesive that holds the reflector or polarizer could be made unadhesive with heat (from an iron, maybe). The project seemed so promising -- I hope we can find a solution! I wouldn't buy a backlight, but I know many others would, so it is a very important thing for the LX community, I think! GTX daniel On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:04:38 -0500, Hal Goldstein wrote: > first step -- removing reflective film and sticker from the palmtop screen. > With some palmtops, the film peels right off as one unit and leaves no > residue. With the harder ones, it rips up, and leaves huge chunks of > polarizer on the screen to be removed, and leaves a lot of adhesive residue > on the screen that has to be painstakingly scraped and cleaned off (can > take over 2 hours) with danger of damaging the screen. -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:13:33 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:54:59 -0400, Victor Roberts wrote: > Perhaps it is time to revisit an LED front light. I have moved > to the Lighting Research Center at Rensselaer Polytechnic > ... I designed such a front LED light already. It isn't looking very professional, some may say it is ugly... but it works phantastically. See http://daniel.hplx.net/ledlight Please note, that I won't make any light in the next time (I made 10 of them some time ago and sold them), because I really don't have time to do so. But if there is interest, maybe another person is willing to make a few of them. (Mark? ;-¨) GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:13:36 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi David, On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:48:54 -0700, David Sargeant wrote: > It adheres to glass, and heat is what I think will really help, but it has > to be very gentle, directed heat -- the zebra strips are on either side of > the adhesive being removed, and something like, say, a hair dryer, might > cause the zebra strips to fly right off, which would make it virtually > impossible to get the screen back together properly. Anybody have any > ideas? Okay, I see, my idea mantiond in my last posting wasn't new ;-) But I indeed have an idea: Make or find a block of metal that has the shape of a squarestone. Two surfaces must have exactls the size of the screen (the surface that has to be heatened) and the whole thing should be abt. 4-5cm thick. Then put it on the surface and put an flat-iron upon it. The heat from the flat-iron whould migrate through the sqarestone and arrive exatcly on the reflector layer. And the zebra strips aren't affected in any way. GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:55:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Getting Notetaker&Phonebook Notes into the Rex3 card? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi I have just gotten my hands on a old Pentium 120 laptop with 2 pcmcia slots..okey machine. Now I have tried some transferring from Hplx->Rex 3 card. I have transferred the Hplx phonebook without that much trouble. But I can not get the "Notes" field transferred because when I print this to a file: "","" (I have to add a "header" with the fieldnames before importing) and then import into Truesync I get a lot of nasty EOL thingys that mess up the file. This is becuase I have alot of "Enter's" in the notefield. Can I do this any other way? It would be nice to get the notefield into the Rex3 also. I have not tried GBDDUMP, but I do think that when I played around some time ago with this I had the same problem with the notefield with GBDDUMP also. I also would like transfer my Notebooks to the Rex3. What is the easyiest way of doing this? I got a quick and dirty routine from Mr. Sautour on this list. He "went" Hplx->Outlook->Rex3. I am afraid the routine was too dirty for me :-) I have exported the Hplx Notebook to a file and then imported it into the Rex3 Truesync application. But this is to cumbersome because I then get one entery in the Truesync Memos which I then have to "explode" manually to xx cards by cutting/pasting. Any other clever way of doing this? The Notes on the Hplx was not as static as I wanted them to be and therefor it is to much work to do the above.. Any help appriciated. I have: Rex3/Truesync on laptop Outlook Gbddump Camerons Outlook utilities(not yet looked at) Laptop w/2*pcmciaslot Hplx w/memorycard At this point I do not care about syncing the Appointmentbook Hplx/Rex3. It's Contacts/Memos that are my main concern. TIA -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -Palmtop friendly sig... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:55:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Fluff: HPLX-L Top 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Ordered this statistic from the server the other day..I got third place :-) Subject: File: "HPLX-L STATREPT" Statistics gathered since 1 Jan 2000 (161 days) --------------------------------------------- Number of Sender's name mailings ------------- -------- 1. barry@FBTC.NET 247 2. Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM 214 2. sponsor@FTEL.NET 214 3. martin@MOBILPOST.COM 173 + 90199462@mobilpost.com (This is also me) 1 174 messages?? What the hell have I been posting messages about? :-) I hope that some of it has been on topic and constructive? 4. d.hertrich@GMX.DE 171 5. david@HPLX.NET 170 I must say that I am amazed that I have posted that many messages..Just tell me to shutup if I babble too much :-)) Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:59:07 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jez Cunningham Subject: OT-ish: Rex-Pro on closeout in UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BT (British Telecom) shops are selling off their Rex-Pro credit-card-size organizers (the -Pro has edit functionality, 512k memory...) with docking station for UKP29.99 !! I got the last one (ex-display) in Bath. Good luck jez ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:37:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ray.simons@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ray Simons Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: david@HPLX.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave, I had a hard drive go south and have not been able to find your address so that I could send you the additional material. Please let me hear from you. Ray On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:48:54 -0700 David Sargeant writes: > impossible to get the screen back together properly. Anybody have > any > ideas? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Ray Simons 6263 Rockland Road Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 Phone: 678-580-2540; 770-484-8919 Fax: 678-580-2520 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:59:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 12 Jun 2000 to 13 Jun 2000 (#2000-211) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:36:37 -0500 > From: Barry > Subject: Email charges > > >>>We Knew this was coming!! Bill 602P will permit the Federal > Govt. to charge a 5 cent charge on every delivered email.<<< > > I saw a story about this on CNN a 2 or 3 weeks ago. I'm sure it's So now we know how reliable CNN is. Any bill before the US Congress is either a H.R. # or a S. #. This story is, as has been previously noted, without a shred of truth to it. It's also, if you think about it, unenforceable. What are they going to do? Monitor all Internet traffic for traffic on port 25 (SMTP)? Port 25 isn't mandatory, although it's a standard. You're free to negotiate a different port address from the standards for any type of activity you choose. Ever seen a web address such as http://www.somewhere.nul:8080? That's a specific directive to use port 8080, not the default 80, for your Web connection. Establishing a virtual private network will also negate any such monitoring. You also can't tell, without reverse DNS lookups including the domain zone contact, where the domain, let alone the recipient, is located. Applying this to transactions where one, or both, participants are extra-territorial would be a violation of international laws and treaties, as well as unenforceable. And, no, having a ".com" address doesn't guarantee you're in the US. Our Congress is stuffed with idiots, but they aren't quite that bad - the *really* dumb ones never make it out of the state legislatures (which explains why UCITA is pushed at the state level!). So if you see this BULLSHIT flying around, duck, because that's all it is. > the same bill. I don't remember details but it was about taxing > email. Unless the situation has changed there isn't much threat. > There are 2 or 3 congressmen pushing for this and they have a couple > of committed votes but that was all the interest they were able to > muster at that time. Most are saying just leave the internet alone. > There has been some discussion regarding extending, or not, the tax-free status of Internet *sales*. Maybe this is what you heard. Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:14:12 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Solution found (was: Backlighting canceled) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dear friends, okay, I made the test. I had an old broken screen out of a 100LX on which my brother sat himself down... ;-) The screen was broken then and I removed the electronics, because I hoped that I could use it for another screen that had a broken electronixs part... but that's another story. So, I took the broken glass part with still attached reflector and polarization layers (but without the zebra thingies) and a flat-iron. I switchen the flat-iron on (highest level for cotton) and pressed it onto the refloctor foil. About 20 secs. After that I could indeed peel off the two layers quite easily. !! It was still adhesive, but not as much as before. With a sharp blade it was easily be removed. Maybe it is possible to heaten the screen longer than 20 seconds - I don't know how sensitive the liquid crystal layer is. Now you only need the squarestone I described in my last email, and you should be able to go on with the backlight project. Atl east, I hope so. :-) GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:33:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David, Yesterday Ken suggested checking with the installers of Solar Shield for auto windows. In the next day or two I will try to check this out to see what products they use to remove the shields. =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:04:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: OT: Re: Ayn Rand's government MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I wonder if Ayn Rand would think the people who have the right to a > place in th government are those with the money to buy it. :) > Actually, I believe that the whole point of Ayn Rand's "objectivist" philosophy was to oppose the Marxist philosophy that was popular in some circles at the time. This doesn't necessarily mean ultra-capitalism, as some people think. If I had to sum up her notion of "enlightened self-interest" in one sentence, it would be that no one has the moral right to gain from the labours of others. This pretty much applies to most of today's wealthy people and politicians both. If they didn't earn their money or positions through their own hard work, Rand says they stole other people's work. Which brings us back to Bill Gates, which is how this whole thread started! ;-} Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:23:51 -0500 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Organization: Times2 Tech Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > It adheres to glass, and heat is what I think will really help, but it has > to be very gentle, directed heat -- the zebra strips are on either side of > the adhesive being removed, and something like, say, a hair dryer, might > cause the zebra strips to fly right off, which would make it virtually > impossible to get the screen back together properly. Anybody have any > ideas? How about chip bag clips to hold the zebra strips down. Cheers, Mack mailto:mack@times2tech.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:28:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Fluff: HPLX-L Top 5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm amazed I got 2nd (I also have a 2nd account here ... LLoo@worldnet.att.net) .... and without any help from Nokia or Ann Rand . For anyone interested, the listserver command (do NOT send to HPLX-L) is: STATS HPLX-L - Longden Martin Bergvill on 06/14/2000 03:55:45 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Martin Bergvill To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Fluff: HPLX-L Top 5 Hello Ordered this statistic from the server the other day..I got third place :-) Subject: File: "HPLX-L STATREPT" Statistics gathered since 1 Jan 2000 (161 days) --------------------------------------------- Number of Sender's name mailings ------------- -------- 1. barry@FBTC.NET 247 2. Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM 214 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:45:35 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > I wonder if heat (hair dryer) could be used to unstick but that would > > depend on which surface the glue adhered to. > > It adheres to glass, and heat is what I think will really help, but it has > to be very gentle, directed heat -- the zebra strips are on either side of > the adhesive being removed, and something like, say, a hair dryer, might > cause the zebra strips to fly right off, which would make it virtually > impossible to get the screen back together properly. Anybody have any > ideas? How about one of those plastic bag sealers which use heat to melt the plastic closed. It may need to be altered to not close tight and apply less heat but it probably applies heat in a straight line to the "closure" seam area. But I've never seen the screen and its zebra stripping so I'm not sure I'm picturing the right thing. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:46:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: HP200LX Software running on W98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I would like to see a solution that is similar to the palm emulators out > there. You create an operating environment that simulates the hardware > architecture and then copy the ROM image from your device to it and execute. > I'm surprised that HP apparently never released a desktop LX emulator for developers. Were they expected to develop non-exm applications only, or develop directly on the palmtop? Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:15:48 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@juno.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > How about a heat lamp? No moving air, and you could > adjust the > > temperature by the distance. A big enough lamp should > give fairly even > > heating too. Or by directed do you mean just apply heat > to the > > adhesive area? > Wood a microwave (oven) be a bad suggestion????? yu pal al............... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:20:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Go!Zilla MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>I tried GoZilla for a few days and the minus's outweighed the plus's on my particular machine. (slow 150mhz with 16megs)<<< I have a faster machine with lots of ram but there are still lots of Go!Zilla minuses. The user interface couldn't possibly be worse. They've used every trick in the book to keep you from finding what you need. Still it does a great job and I can download things with it easily that would be far too much trouble otherwise. I can even schedule downloads for the wee hours and it'll do the download and even reconnect if it has a problem. If the server it's downloading from has a problem it'll even try to resume from a mirror if there is one. And its amazingly good at finding mirrors. In fact it always finds all the mirrors it can and then checks their speed and downloads from the fastest one. It keeps a running check on their speeds and switches if there's sufficient improvement in another one for long enough to have meaning. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:29:07 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@juno.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: 150MB ata flash MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii note frum last week; The person selling 150 MB flash disks still around and still selling???? TIA yor pal al....................... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:33:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Backlighting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>If anybody on the list has ideas or feel they can help, please email David or I publicly or privately as appropriate. We have a number of damaged screens that can be used for practice.<<<< What about a variable pricing plan that would allow users to opt to pay for the additional time if their system had that problem? I'm sure many wouldn't be willing but maybe enough people would be willing to take that chance. What percentage of units have that problem? How much extra would it be in the worst case? What percentage would be worst case? I haven't decided if I want a backlight yet. My thought was to maybe buy an additional LX to get the backlight on so as not to risk the ones I have in case it wasn't long lasting. If I decide to do this, I don't think the possibility of a 25% chance of additional $100 charge would have much affect on my decision. Of course these numbers are just made up. But if that's in the ballpark, we're talking about a possible $100 increase on what would already be about a $700 purchase. Anyway that's my view. I can see how using a variable price might bring up trust issues with people you don't know and might be more trouble than it's worth. I wonder if you could just average the additional cost into all the backlights and make them a little more expensive for everyone? It wouldnt be hard to see how many on this list would be interested at a little higher price. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:39:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: HP200LX Software running on W98 Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bruce Martin wrote: > > I'm surprised that HP apparently never released a desktop LX emulator for > developers. Were they expected to develop non-exm applications only, or > develop directly on the palmtop? > > Bruce in Toronto > I'm not so surprised. After all most developers would probably have preferred to develop for the general DOS market, so `HP-specific' mode was surely less important to the 95/100/200 world than it would have been for most any other HP calculator (HP48s, for example)... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:44:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Dos driver for M100 drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>Subject: Re: The Commodore C64's Floppy disk drive There was a freeware DOS driver in the M100 SIG at one time. I know I have a copy, but doubt I can find it.<<<< This might be what you have in mind: http://www.irobot.org/m100/dos/PDD_110.EXE but it's to control the Model 100 drive (PDD1 or PDD2) from the dos command line. However, those drives are small, battery operated and offered fairly often on comp.sys.tandy and on ebay at fairly low prices. Typically $40 to $60. Sometimes less. And sometimes way more. :) I think the PDD1 holds 100k and the PDD2 holds 200k (double sided). I've never actually seen either drive but I've read discussions of them on the newgroup from time to time. I believe the drive is an intelligent device that returns files by name, not sectors. I'm not sure of the details but it must return portions of files, too, since the Model 100 only has 32k ram, much used for things besides storage. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:00:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Is there a source for HPLX screens? Maybe you can get them manufactured properly if you have a big enough order. It looks like the guys making the morphy found a source for Epson screens. Could this be used. How about steam? You can take a bunch of screens and stick them in a 'steam box' like the use for warping pieces of wood. BTW: It seems that everyone is racking their brains on this. We are all engaged in the vain hope that this project can be salvaged.... it doesn't look good, tho... :-/ > on the screen that has to be painstakingly scraped and cleaned off (can > take over 2 hours) with danger of damaging the screen. > > Since David Sargeant did most of the experimentation, he can answer any > questions on specifics. This was the problem Mack warned us about all along. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:28:46 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey!!! I sent an email about just that (maybe it got lot): I have window tinting removal fluid sitting around doing nothing. I'd love to try it on a "practice" screen to see if it helps. The fluid is a really mild form of soap, I think, and it works really well. Where can I get a screen? Thanks! Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Newins" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 6:33 AM Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled > David, > > Yesterday Ken suggested checking with the installers of Solar > Shield for auto windows. In the next day or two I will try > to check this out to see what products they use to remove the > shields. =Bob= > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:35:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , robert c lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: robert c lewis Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here is an idea borrowed from a 'paint remover'. First let me describe the paint remover. It consists of a sheet metal box (less one side) with heater coils inside and the whole thing attached to a handle. One uses it by plugging it in and then holding it just above an area that is painted (for removing paint from say, the suffit of a house) and it heats up an area of paint as big as the metal box is on the open side. Then you use a scraper to remove the paint, and move the 'heat gun' to another area. A similar tool could be made (much smaller) I think for the present purpose. It might take some creativity to figure out how to mount the coils inside of a small metal box (though I've mounted coils on a plaster-of-paris base with nails sticking out of it and heater-coils wound upon the nails). Maybe there is a ceramics person amongst us who could fire a small piece of clay for mounting such coils inside a small metal box? First of course the proper resistance / length of heater coil must be calculated for the size box desired. Maybe a transformer need be used to reduce the voltage for a shorter-than-usual length of heater coil. That's what I did to make a tiny stove one time for heating small vials of liquid. Anyway the thing would look something like this: ______________ | | ----/\/\/\/\/\/\/\------ | | __________________________________ ..surface to be heated in spots.. ..and if built to the right size maybe it could be used. I often find I have to improvise special tools to do special tasks when no other such tool is available. Made with ceramics instead of plaster-of-paris, I think this heater tool might last a long time to do many screens. Rob http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rc-lewis On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, David Sargeant wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, F. Kaufman wrote: > > > I wonder if heat (hair dryer) could be used to unstick but that would > > depend on which surface the glue adhered to. > > It adheres to glass, and heat is what I think will really help, but it has > to be very gentle, directed heat -- the zebra strips are on either side of > the adhesive being removed, and something like, say, a hair dryer, might > cause the zebra strips to fly right off, which would make it virtually > impossible to get the screen back together properly. Anybody have any > ideas? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:31:58 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << How about steam? You can take a bunch of screens and stick them in a 'steam box' like the use for warping pieces of wood. BTW: It seems that everyone is racking their brains on this. We are all engaged in the vain hope that this project can be salvaged.... it doesn't look good, tho... :-/ >> CO2 fire extinguishers, Dave! Oops, wrong temperature and problem . Actually, if you just did the work outdoors ... the Las Vegas sun might supply all the heat you need. Make a cardboard cutout in the shape of the screen cover and lay the screen so the light falls just on the parts you want to warm. If you want, I'll even supply the cardboard. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:38:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , robert c lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: robert c lewis Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ..actually I should also mention...the little stove I made this way was connected to the output of a variable transformer, so it had variable voltage (and thus power) output at the heating coils. Maybe the same could be done here. Rob On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, robert c lewis wrote: > Here is an idea borrowed from a 'paint remover'. First let me describe > the paint remover. It consists of a sheet metal box (less one side) with > heater coils inside and the whole thing attached to a handle. One uses it > by plugging it in and then holding it just above an area that is painted > (for removing paint from say, the suffit of a house) and it heats up an > area of paint as big as the metal box is on the open side. Then you use a > scraper to remove the paint, and move the 'heat gun' to another area. > > A similar tool could be made (much smaller) I think for the present > purpose. It might take some creativity to figure out how to mount the > coils inside of a small metal box (though I've mounted coils on a > plaster-of-paris base with nails sticking out of it and heater-coils wound > upon the nails). Maybe there is a ceramics person amongst us who could > fire a small piece of clay for mounting such coils inside a small metal > box? > > First of course the proper resistance / length of heater coil must be > calculated for the size box desired. Maybe a transformer need be used to > reduce the voltage for a shorter-than-usual length of heater coil. > That's what I did to make a tiny stove one time for heating small vials > of liquid. > > Anyway the thing would look something like this: > > > ______________ > | | > ----/\/\/\/\/\/\/\------ > | | > __________________________________ > ..surface to be heated in spots.. > > > ..and if built to the right size maybe it could be used. I often find I > have to improvise special tools to do special tasks when no other such > tool is available. Made with ceramics instead of plaster-of-paris, I > think this heater tool might last a long time to do many screens. > > Rob > > http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rc-lewis > > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, David Sargeant wrote: > > > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, F. Kaufman wrote: > > > > > I wonder if heat (hair dryer) could be used to unstick but that would > > > depend on which surface the glue adhered to. > > > > It adheres to glass, and heat is what I think will really help, but it has > > to be very gentle, directed heat -- the zebra strips are on either side of > > the adhesive being removed, and something like, say, a hair dryer, might > > cause the zebra strips to fly right off, which would make it virtually > > impossible to get the screen back together properly. Anybody have any > > ideas? > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:51:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <> The shortage and expense of screens in relatively small quantity is one of the reasons HP cancelled the 200LX. I don't know about the Epson, but unfortunately even if we wanted 2000 screens one time, I don't believe it would come close to justify expense unless it were an off the shelf part that could be made to work. <> Yes, I haven't given up hope. But I decided we just couldn't indefinitely string everyone along. It was causing stress both among customers and our staff who really had nothing to add when customers called. It was a monkey on our back that wasn't doing anyone any good. I think by canceling the project Mack and David can be more free to share challenges. This is such a great knowledgeable group with such good will. For example, Bob Newins already send David tools and made recommendations of a specific products that might work to remove the adhesive to David, immediately after my post. So many others of you have already made helpful suggestions. Hopefully, David is up for continued experimentation and reporting back to us. (Now it won't just be me bugging David on progress, it will be everyone here). There have been more ups and downs on this project then anything I have been involved in. Unfortunately, David and I seem to have been overly optimistic based on too little concrete evidence. (Mack on the other hand warned us of problems with the screen from the beginning. His tech threw up his hands a couple of years ago). In truth it is David Sargeant (david@hplx.net) and Mack (and John Musielewicz before he dropped out) who have done all the work. David is the one who has spent hours late at night experimenting with the screens. Even if the screen issue is solved and we can keep total labor under 30 minutes per unit, there still is work putting all the pieces together. We do have samples of all the pieces, although we are having troubles getting enough panels. Mack has built sample boards that fit in the Palmtop hinge. Assuming we get that working together, we need to get backlit units in the hands of beta users hands to make sure the product is good. At the risk of once again saying too much, there is only one usability problem as I see it. Backlighting (at least on my prototype) is really quite good with a minimal hit on battery life. Mack's software works nicely. My concern is that in normal lighting, a virgin palmtop and a backlit palmtop with backlighting off appear a little different. Mack, David S., and Rich Hall (former HP Palmtop Paper editor, now editor of Pocket PC magazine) and I were having dinner last COMDEX in Las Vegas. Rich liked the "new" screen better in normal mode, while as I recall, Mack, David and I thought it wasn't quite as readable. Fortunately, we all thought it was acceptable. From the side of the commercial product I'd appreciate if you don't call or email us about it. The most up to date information will be on this list. We won't announce anything unless we have a product and know FOR SURE when it will be ready. Again, thanks to everyone for your help on this. Hal at Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:04:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: Hal Goldstein In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>We have a number of damaged >>screens that can be used for practice. send one this way I will try some Anchor Film Clean on it or if you can find some you can try it should make getting the glue off a snap and not damage the plastic P.O. Box 2116 Kernersville, NC 27285-2116 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:17:55 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: HP200LX Software running on W98 Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I'm surprised that HP apparently never released a desktop LX emulator for >>developers. Were they expected to develop non-exm applications only, or >>develop directly on the palmtop? there were some tools and libs released by hp for developing .exm's but I cant remember if there was an emulator for the desktop or not ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:21:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >..actually I should also mention...the little stove I made this way was >connected to the output of a variable transformer, so it had variable >voltage (and thus power) output at the heating coils. Maybe the same >could be done here. How about a Quark-Gluon plasma? I've read that it's a very hot and fundamental form of matter. It should be able to dissolve anything. They're making the stuff in the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider (I love that name!) at Brookhaven, NY. Maybe we can acquire a sample? Oh, BTW: This thing is also going to destroy the universe. It's like we're living in a Vonnegut novel. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/astronomy/brookhaven.html http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/generalscience/brookhaven_destruction. html >-----Original Message----- >From: robert c lewis Ýmailto:rc-lewis@STUDENTS.UIUC.EDU¨ >Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 12:38 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Backlighting canceled > > >..actually I should also mention...the little stove I made this way was >connected to the output of a variable transformer, so it had variable >voltage (and thus power) output at the heating coils. Maybe the same >could be done here. > >Rob > > >On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, robert c lewis wrote: > >> Here is an idea borrowed from a 'paint remover'. First let >me describe >> the paint remover. It consists of a sheet metal box (less >one side) with >> heater coils inside and the whole thing attached to a >handle. One uses it >> by plugging it in and then holding it just above an area >that is painted >> (for removing paint from say, the suffit of a house) and it >heats up an >> area of paint as big as the metal box is on the open side. >Then you use a >> scraper to remove the paint, and move the 'heat gun' to another area. >> >> A similar tool could be made (much smaller) I think for the present >> purpose. It might take some creativity to figure out how to mount the >> coils inside of a small metal box (though I've mounted coils on a >> plaster-of-paris base with nails sticking out of it and >heater-coils wound >> upon the nails). Maybe there is a ceramics person amongst >us who could >> fire a small piece of clay for mounting such coils inside a >small metal >> box? >> >> First of course the proper resistance / length of heater coil must be >> calculated for the size box desired. Maybe a transformer >need be used to >> reduce the voltage for a shorter-than-usual length of heater coil. >> That's what I did to make a tiny stove one time for heating >small vials >> of liquid. >> >> Anyway the thing would look something like this: >> >> >> ______________ >> | | >> ----/\/\/\/\/\/\/\------ >> | | >> __________________________________ >> ..surface to be heated in spots.. >> >> >> ..and if built to the right size maybe it could be used. I >often find I >> have to improvise special tools to do special tasks when no >other such >> tool is available. Made with ceramics instead of plaster-of-paris, I >> think this heater tool might last a long time to do many screens. >> >> Rob >> >> http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rc-lewis >> >> >> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, David Sargeant wrote: >> >> > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, F. Kaufman wrote: >> > >> > > I wonder if heat (hair dryer) could be used to unstick >but that would >> > > depend on which surface the glue adhered to. >> > >> > It adheres to glass, and heat is what I think will really >help, but it has >> > to be very gentle, directed heat -- the zebra strips are >on either side of >> > the adhesive being removed, and something like, say, a >hair dryer, might >> > cause the zebra strips to fly right off, which would make >it virtually >> > impossible to get the screen back together properly. >Anybody have any >> > ideas? >> > >> > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >> > >> >> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >> > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:21:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And send one my way and I'll try the window tinting remover. (or give me an address and I'll send it over): Philippe Lewis 957 Fell St. #6 San Francisco CA 94117 Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Tachna To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 10:04 AM Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled > >>We have a number of damaged > >>screens that can be used for practice. > > send one this way I will try some Anchor Film Clean on it or if you can find > some you can try it should make getting the glue off a snap and not damage > the plastic > > P.O. Box 2116 > Kernersville, NC 27285-2116 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:36:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , dmp24@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David M Peterson Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have read through the varoius responses. There are several parts to the removal of the film. The zebra contacts cannot be damaged. Heat softens the adhesive. Chemical adhesive removers work, but do not go through the film, causing slow removal times. Here is what I would recommend: Start with a copper block the size of the area to be heated. Mount a cartridge heater in it. These heaters are 6.5mm in diameter and about 25-45mm long. The heaters have a rating of around 200 watts. Mount a thermocouple close in the copper block (10mm away). Connect both of these to a temperature controller. Get a press. A drill press would even work. Make a clamp assembly to hold the LCD assembly, including the fragile zebra contacts. All you have to do is lower the heated block on to the film area. After the determined amount of time, raise the block and peel the film off. At this time, adhesive removers could be used to remove any adhesive residue. Make sure that you remove adhesive remiver residue (use alcohol). I am thinking about this with the mindset of needing to do this for a low volume manufacturing environment 100-400 per month. Try Watlow, Omron, Etc for parts. The copper block should be milled flat on the film side. A hole could be drilled and tapped to mount a bolt in the top to mount in a drill press. David Peterson ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:21:07 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michberr01@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Re: Solution found (was: Backlighting canceled) Comments: To: d.hertrich@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi , If we stand behind our 200lx, we should undertake every effort to push the people forward to bring the backlight project to an successful end . Lets continue it is evident for the survival of the 200LX. regards, Michael ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:55:39 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: ADMIN: searchable HPLX-L archives Comments: To: mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ddvteach@juno.com wrote: > > I agree, searchable archives are valuable. That's why I download the > > monthly Zip files so I can do the searches on my desktop. I keep a > > full set of the current List as well as the previous list that Mitch used > > to host. > > Would you happen to know how to get the archives from Mitch site? > They are no longer up. I could email them to you (several megabytes) but maybe a better idea is to find a new web site to hold them. Al, could you put them on the HPLX-L site along with the archives from the current list? If yes I'll email my copies to you if you don't already have them. Comments? cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:07:17 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mack, David & Hal, I checked with a solar auto film installer today. They use a hairdrier to sofen the adheasive. So it seems that heat applied at a certain rate is the way to go. Now to come up with a quick inexpensive method to do this. There are many good suggestions here, some quite involved and surely would work. In order for it to be a viable project for Thaddeus it has to be fairly simple and quick and not involve much investment. Now how can we use a hairdrier, apply heat and make the zebra strips happy? Another thought I had without ever seeing one of these apart might be a wooden box made out of reversed picture frame molding so the flange would protect the zebra strips from the blower. Something like this would be simple and inexpensive to make with a mitre box or maybe a frame shop could do it. If it works, 6 or 7 of then could be made for the techs so conversions could be completed easily. More thoughts welcome.(G) =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:19:00 CDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry N Zimmerman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry N Zimmerman Subject: Interactive Fiction Anyone know of any interactive fiction/text adventures that are historically grounded. I just discovered the Zork series (and the whole text adventure universe) but sadly note that most of the adventures are either science fiction or fantasy - two genres which do nothing for me. An adventure set in the Cold War or World War II would be more to my liking. Something like an interactive Cryptonomicon. Any leads? Larry Zimmerman ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:31:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Re: Solution found (was: Backlighting canceled) Help and encourage, yes. Push, no. Backlighting is nice (and I'd like to have it), but it's not required for the _survival_ of the 200LX. We are talking about a machine that's been discontinued, not one that is still in production. We can treasure and use the ones that exist, and improve them. That's all. If an attempt at a backlighting installation ruins a screen, it's gone forever. (Thank God there are some things that are _there_ forever.) Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Let the little children come to Me," Jesus said, "and don't keep them away. The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." -Matthew 19:14 On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:21:07 EDT Michael Berrier writes: >Hi , >If we stand behind our 200lx, we should undertake every effort to >push the >people forward to bring the backlight project to an successful end . >Lets >continue it is evident for the survival of the 200LX. >regards, Michael > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:18:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cliff Crittenden Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Subject: Is there a way to convert a program written for the HP 48? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to convert a program originally written for the HP 48 to run as a com, exe, or exm program on the 200LX TIA, Cliff ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:42:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: CNN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> I saw a story about this on CNN a 2 or 3 weeks ago. I'm sure it's > > So now we know how reliable CNN is. Any bill before the US Congress is > either a H.R. # or a S. #. I have no memory of the number of the bill or even if they gave a number. I do know they said there is a bill being pushed by a couple of congressmen to charge for email. But, as I said, CNN said it wasn't being taken seriously. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 20:45:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Is there a way to convert a program written for the HP 48? Comments: To: Cliff Crittenden MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cliff Crittenden wrote: > > I would like to convert a program originally written for the HP 48 to run > as a com, exe, or exm program on the 200LX > > TIA, > > Cliff > An HP48 program can have been written in many different languages. Among them are at least: (1) Keystrokes; (2) SysRPL; and (3) Saturn ML. Which language is the program you want to convert written in? The amount of effort involved is quite different for each of the various cases, and while you could probably use EMU-48 to execute the original code if you had access to a Windows environment, the prospects for doing so on the 200 are very limited. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:45:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 13 Jun 2000 to 14 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-212) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>There has been some discussion regarding extending, or not, the tax-free status of Internet *sales*. Maybe this is what you heard.<<< I'm pretty sure they were talking about a charge on email. Maybe they could have the ISP collect it. As I said, I don't remember the details. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:37:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 14 Jun 2000, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:54:59 -0400, Victor Roberts wrote: > > > Perhaps it is time to revisit an LED front light. I have moved > > to the Lighting Research Center at Rensselaer Polytechnic > > ... > > I designed such a front LED light already. Ýsnip¨ > See > http://daniel.hplx.net/ledlight Ýsnip¨ Daniel - I checked your Web site, and your light looks like an excellent design. I was thinking of an end-lit plastic cylinder that would mount above the screen and provide even light on the screen and the keyboard. But, your design is simpler and does not need to hang on the screen as mine would. How uniform is the light on the screen? Would a larger number of smaller LEDs provide more uniform illumination? If the backlight project does not get saved by all the great ideas that have been posted here, perhaps we do need to consider some way to produce your front light in quantity. Vic ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:03:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: OT: Eudora / also ZoneAlarm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Hi gang- My apology for the off-topic post. I've installed Eudora 4.2.2 on my Windoze laptop, and have it pretty well set up like my Post/LX. Same set of mailboxes, filters etc. Everything works fine except that quoted material in a reply isn't marked with a > in front of each line. (It's not marked at all). Makes it confusing to separate the original quote from the reply. Any Eudora users have any idea what I'm doing wrong? The eudora.ini file is supposed to assume the ReplyPrefix parameter is > -- Tried it with the line inserted in the .ini and without. It's set to send in plain text only. another OT question (again I apologize). We've had a discussion of ZoneAlarm for firewall protection, which it does very well. Has anyone seen this crash? If the ZA icon is shown in the tray when clicking on the icon to dial up my ISP, it dials, makes the handshaking noise (sounds a little different), verifies login & password, then the screen goes black, and windoze tries to restart. Blue screen appears saying that it's running scandisk. After scandisk, it locks up, and needs to be shut down manually. On restart, it wants to go into safe mode, but allows selection of normal mode. Seems to start up OK after that. Norton Win Doctor identifies no problems. Very strange... Sorry for all the windoze questions, but I'm sure somebody here has some ideas. TIA Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:15:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:04 AM 6/13/00 -0400, you wrote: >> The programs are identical except for a few minor cosmetic changes. The >main difference I can think of >> off hand is that the 200LX has a "datacard" view in the database, phone, >and Notetaker programs. >> The 200LX does have a newer PCMCIA card slot, so it can use some cards >that the 100LX requires a special >> driver for. And where would one find the location of this driver for the 100LX, pray tell? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:08:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: Re: Go!Zilla Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <001201bfd614$0b3b7840$8cfc36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:20 AM 6/14/00 -0500, you wrote: >I have a faster machine with lots of ram but there are still lots of >Go!Zilla minuses. The user interface couldn't possibly be worse. >They've used every trick in the book to keep you from finding what >you need. Well said, Barry. (I couldn't figger the dam thing out..) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:24:00 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hal, At first, I was hesitant to pony up for one of the backlit screens. I hesitated at the price. After some thought, I want one badly. I have been disheartened by the cancellation and now hope for reinstatement or the project. Even if I have to spend more money, I really want a backlit 200lx. I have grown quite fond of my LX. Please don't give up yet. And, lest I forget, thanks to all who have worked so diligently on this project. Thanks again, Dennis Vest << Even if the screen issue is solved and we can keep total labor under 30 minutes per unit, there still is work putting all the pieces together. We do have samples of all the pieces >> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:20:03 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: OT: Eudora Comments: cc: Peniel Romanelli Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, I am using Eudora 4.3, and also found that quoted material in a reply isn't marked with a > , but with a solid grey vertical line when I am composing the reply. In my previous Eudora 3.0, the quoted material in a reply is marked with a > , which is my preferred choice. I checked my eudora.ini file, and could not find any line for ReplyPrefix in the ÝSettings¨ section. I have tried to include ReplyPrefix=> or ReplyPrefix >, but it makes no difference. I also set Eudora to send in plain text only. I think when you see this message which is also copied to you, that the quoted part below will be marked with a > >Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:03:56 -0400 >From: Peniel Romanelli >Subject: OT: Eudora / also ZoneAlarm > >Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:35:15 -0400 (EDT) > >Hi gang- > >My apology for the off-topic post. I've installed Eudora 4.2.2 on my >Windoze laptop, and have it pretty well set up like my Post/LX. Same >set of mailboxes, filters etc. Everything works fine except that >quoted material in a reply isn't marked with a > in front of each >line. (It's not marked at all). Makes it confusing to separate the >original quote from the reply. Any Eudora users have any idea what >I'm doing wrong? The eudora.ini file is supposed to assume the >ReplyPrefix parameter is > -- Tried it with the line inserted in the >.ini and without. It's set to send in plain text only. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:27:10 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jez Cunningham Subject: Phone contacts -> REX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin Bergvill wrote: "I have transferred the Hplx phonebook without that much trouble. But I can not get the "Notes" field transferred because when I print this to a file" Martin, I had no real problem exporting from the phone application. I used File / Print / All Items / Style / Custom / All fields / Print-to-file I imported the result to Excel and manipulated the Lastname, Firstname field to two fields and saved as .csv Notes fields were still intact at this time. I imported to Truesync and the only limitation I found was a 256 character limit to the Notes field. Here's the on-line help concerning sizes: These are the maximum values for importing and exporting cardfile data: Maximum number of characters in a field: 256 Maximum number of characters per record: 5,120 Maximum number of records: 30,000 Maximum number of fields per record: 100 So, it's a bit laborious but my contacts change infrequently enough that I don't mind being a week or two out of date. But I WOULD like to get my diary transferred EASILY. And I would like something a bit more intelligent for Notetaker (I exported them to text files and imported as memos - by the way - my new RexPro allows 4 separate memo folders.) Good luck Jez ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 02:20:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: ÝOT¨ Email charges MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This could be one of the silliest things I've read in a long time - how, exactly, would this work? The only infrastructure the Gov't. would own would be the "tollbooths" designed to generate bills for email that passes through them! This is very much like the government coming along and throwing up a toll booth on your driveway - they don't own the road, just the booth that is collecting the tolls. Now, if the Post Office were to develop an *infrastructure* that would allow them to offer a service of, say, guaranteeing delivery/forwarding service, along with confirmation of receipt, they could charge for that, and maybe the Post Office is looking for approval to offer such a service. I am very excited that the government is considering rolling back the tax instituted to pay for the Spanish-American war that is chagred with every gallon of gas purchased... It will only take them three more years to stop collecting the tax. I guess that was a very expensive war! ;¬) Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:36 AM Subject: Email charges > >>>We Knew this was coming!! Bill 602P will permit the Federal > Govt. to charge a 5 cent charge on every delivered email.<<< > > I saw a story about this on CNN a 2 or 3 weeks ago. I'm sure it's > the same bill. I don't remember details but it was about taxing > email. Unless the situation has changed there isn't much threat. > There are 2 or 3 congressmen pushing for this and they have a couple > of committed votes but that was all the interest they were able to > muster at that time. Most are saying just leave the internet alone. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:39:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Text adventures MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>Anyone know of any interactive fiction/text adventures that are historically grounded. I just discovered the Zork series (and the whole text adventure universe) but sadly note that most of the adventures are either science fiction or fantasy - two genres which do nothing for me. An adventure set in the Cold War or World War II would be more to my liking. Something like an interactive Cryptonomicon<<<<<<< I don't know of any Cold war stuff but there could very well be some. There are a lot of these written by adventure fan an not just by Infocom themselves. Infocom did write a few myseries though. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:43:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: HP48 conversion to 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>I would like to convert a program originally written for the HP 48 to run as a com, exe, or exm program on the 200LX<<<<<<< You're gonna have to basically rewrite it. The languages on the HP48 have nothing in common with the 200lx languages. The closest you might come would be a forth interpreter and that wont be all that close. RPL is modelled after forth and they do both look alike but there are some really major differences too. Safety is the biggest one. You can depend on RPL words not crashing but returning error messages if they get the wrong data. Forth crashes. Also Forth doesn't have the data typing that RPL has. I suggest writing it from scratch on the 200lx. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:15:24 -100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Sending EMail from GSM via SMS MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, This may be sightly off-topic but might interest the mobile users that we are. While looking for bridges between GSM<->SMS<->E-MAIL, I found the following free service: http://www.excell.to It enables to send a short E-Mail (160 char) from the GSM phone via SMS to any valid E-Mail address. In conjunction with Stefan Peichl's PDU.COM and an HPLX for easy keyboard entry, it allows to send an E-Mail at the low fixed cost of an SMS message wherever you are in the world without incuring the charge of a long distance call to your ISP. Regards, \/ /ves p.s. I have no connection with excell etc.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:03:33 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michelle Honey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michelle Honey Subject: Backlighting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Back on 25 May, I sent the following message which may now have more relavance with the demise of the backlighting project. Is there any possibility of a larger replacement LCD screen becoming available for the HP200LX? If the entire area of the inside top cover was used (excluding approx 5mm around edges), the screen area would be approximately 150mm wide x 60mm high. Preserving the same aspect ratio the viewable area would be about 87.6 sq cm; over 50% greater than the current area of about 56.87 sq cm (based on screen size of 121mm x 47mm). While a little redesign would be required to show the function key positions, as they are also shown on the keyboard, the loss of the F key labels would be a trade off I would easily live with for the greater legibility of the screen. I would be much more interested in larger screen (with or without backlighting) than backlighting the current sized screen. Craig Honey ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:28:00 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fluff: HPLX-L Top 5 Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:55:45 -0400, Martin Bergvill wrote: > Statistics gathered since 1 Jan 2000 (161 days) > --------------------------------------------- > Number of > Sender's name mailings > Ý...¨ > 4. d.hertrich@GMX.DE 171 WOW. Interesting! :-) I remember when I first subscribed to HPLX-L (about 2.5 years ago, short after I bought my first 200LX), I really was afraid of writing to the list, because I thought I'd make too much language mistakes. :-¨ Now I know that I make many mistakes, but I also know that it is very nice to talk to you all. GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:28:08 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: hobchi@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Al, On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:15:48 -0700, hobchi wrote: > Wood a microwave (oven) be a bad suggestion????? I think, yes: 1. he microwaves only heaten water-based things. So probably no part of the screen would be heatened (maybe the liquid crystal layer?) 2. The electric fields inside the microwave oven would probably destroy the whole electronics of the screen. I'm not sure, but I Really don't want to test it! ;-) GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 05:19:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Sending EMail from GSM via SMS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:15:24 -100, Yves Leurquin wrote: > Hi, > > This may be sightly off-topic but might interest the mobile users that we > are. > > While looking for bridges between GSM<->SMS<->E-MAIL, I found the following > free service: http://www.excell.to I used them for a while when sending sms was free on one of my subscriptions (pay as you go sub). Worked pretty well > It enables to send a short E-Mail (160 char) from the GSM phone via SMS to > any valid E-Mail address. You can also define a group and then all recevie the message when sent to the group. > In conjunction with Stefan Peichl's PDU.COM and an HPLX for easy keyboard > entry, it allows to send an E-Mail at the low fixed cost of an SMS message > wherever you are in the world without incuring the charge of a long distance > call to your ISP. You can also post messages to newsservers. But I have not tried this.. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 05:30:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: OT: Eudora For DOS? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peniel: Eudora made a change between ver 3x and 4x in response to styled text. Any styled text email will not automatically be prefixed with a ">" since that character is also used as a marker for , and other styles. Your post did make me wonder: Was there ever a DOS version of Eudora? I use the Win 4.01 ver when I'm stuck outside DOSland. AFAIK, ver 4.01 is the last bug-free version (although there are a few mites that get nasty now and then). Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA Email: bc@chisp.net website: www.chisp.net/~bc =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- DOS e-mail -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:53:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: Update to FFDB 2.0 - 2.01 Comments: cc: ian@hplx.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All - I have sent an update to FFDB to Ian at hplx.net. This fixes a bug in the search function that would let it miss some hits in the file and speeds it up a little bit. Also - if no search results are found, no windows will come up in the search window - press ESC to restore all the windows. To those of you that recently asked for source code, it you don't get a response in the next two days, please ask again. Brian ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:34:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Re: backlighiting....... :-( Where are these Micron LED lights available? Hang the geek factor! Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:55:07 -0400 "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> writes: >Though it is sad that this long awaited for 'breakthrough' is not to >be a= >t >least there are a >few options. > >I like the LED light that has been produced here....Nice, but little >too >bulky for me. > >Now, I use one of the micron LED lights....White/blue. It is attached >to= > >velcro and sticks to the = > >corner of my glasses with the velcro also serving as glare guide. It >run= >s >for well over 10 hours continues. > >True, geek factor is really bad. BUT, on a very dark train or in my >tent = >in >the middle of the forest, = > >i use it to read books or play with my palmtop. small, light, cheap >and >effective. > >Anyone else use this? > >dave > >PS. now, what excuse do I use to get 64 mb in my 200lx? Would have >been= > >convenient to do = > >backlighting at the same time......what an excuse lost....bummer > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:26:14 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: C-64 floppy read from PC - go StarCommander MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hello all, If you want to access C64 floppies from PC, go for Star Commander. It's at It is similar to Norton =CDCommander, but specifically for handling C64 related stuff, like emulator codes and Commodore floppies. It drives your 1541 devices via parallel port. Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:32:24 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , geologist@MINDSPRING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "William E. Blankenship" Subject: Re: CNN Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry, What I would like to know is which Congressmen are pushing for this bill. These are the types that need to be watched more closely by their constituents. You say CNN ran the story? I will check with them for this information. Thanks for the heads up on this. This is just another case of the US Federal Governments all inclusive intrusiveness into the private lives of its citizens, not to mention their push to confiscate the wealth of its citizens. =3D--=3D--=3D--=3DBegin Original Message=3D--=3D--=3D--=3D ...there is a bill being pushed by a couple of congressmen to charge for email. =3D--=3D--=3D--=3D End Original Message =3D--=3D--=3D--=3D William E. Blankenship ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:10:38 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , revwkschultz@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: William Schultz Subject: When You MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "When you believe in things you don't understand, you suffer..." Stevie Wonder Barry, I don't know what you heard on CNN, but it wasn't about charging for Email. http://www.Europe.Datafellows.com/hoaxes/bill602p.htm F-Secure Hoax Warnings Pages NAME: Bill 602P ALIAS: Postal E-mail There's a hoax message in circulation that appeals to people to oppose Bill 602P that is reportedly aimed to charge 5 cents from each e-mail a person sends. Here's what the hoax message looks like: Dear Internet Subscriber: Please read the following carefully if you intend to stay online and continue using email: The last few months have revealed an alarming trend in the Government of the United States attempting to quietly push through legislation that will affect your use of the Internet. Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be attempting to bilk email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill 602P will permit the Federal Govt. to charge a 5 cent surcharge on every email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington D.C. lawyer Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this legislation from becoming law. The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due to the proliferation of email is costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per year. You may have noticed their recent ad campaign "There is nothing like a letter". Since the average citizen received about 10 pieces of email per day in 1998, the cost to the typical individual would be an additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year, above and beyond their regular Internet costs. Note that this would be money paid directly to the U.S. Postal Service for a service they do not even provide. The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference. If the federal government is permitted to tamper with our liberties by adding a surcharge to email, who knows where it will end. You are already paying an exorbitant price for snail mail because of bureacratic efficiency. It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter to be delivered from New York to Buffalo. If the U.S. Postal Service is allowed to tinker with email, it will mark the end of the "free" Internet in the United States. One congressman, Tony Schnell has even suggested a "twenty to forty dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and beyond the government's proposed email charges. Note that most of the major newspapers have ignored the story, the only exception being the Washingtonian which called the idea of email surcharge "a useful concept who's time has come" March 6th 1999 Editorial) Don't sit by and watch your freedoms erode away! Send this email to all Americans on your list and tell your friends and relatives to write to their congressman and say "No!" to Bill 602P. Kate Turner Assistant to Richard Stepp, Berger, Stepp and Gorman Attorneys at Law 216 Concorde Street, Vienna, Va. Bill 602P doesn't exist and no one is planning to charge people for sending e-mails as far as we know. Please ignore this hoax message if you receive it and don't pass it on. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:11:33 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:15:48 -0700, hobchi wrote: > > > Wood a microwave (oven) be a bad suggestion????? > > I think, yes: > > 1.The microwaves only heaten water-based things. So probably no part of > the screen would be heatened (maybe the liquid crystal layer?) > > 2. The electric fields inside the microwave oven would probably destroy > the whole electronics of the screen. Microwaves are electromagnetic waves which "stimulate" more or less everything, which is a dipole. Water is a typical dipol, so is epoxy or polyurethan or liquid crystals. I would be very cautious and try out only with a scrap screen. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:08:39 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Daniel - I checked your Web site, and your light looks like an > excellent design. I was thinking of an end-lit plastic cylinder > that would mount above the screen and provide even light on the > screen and the keyboard. A length of plastic pipe with a slot cut out to accommodate the top/lid of the 200 and in which led's are mounted. Or in which a lucite or other clear or diffusion layer allows light to spread out over the screen area. And YES, the keyboard. I've now discovered that some screens with backlighting are fine for reading the screen but if you cannot see the keyboard, you're still behind!!!!! And now that this has come up, did the proposed backlight actually light up the keyboard so that you could see what you were typing??? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:08:43 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Micron FRONT Lighting! Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If we are talking those little "arrowhead" shaped lights - REI has them in various colors. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:16:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: CNN Comments: To: geologist@mindspring.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 11:32 AM Subject: Re: CNN >>>> What I would like to know is which Congressmen are pushing for this bill. These are the types that need to be watched more closely by their constituents. You say CNN ran the story? I will check with them for this information. Thanks for the heads up on this. This is just another case of the US Federal Governments all inclusive intrusiveness into the private lives of its citizens, not to mention their push to confiscate the wealth of its citizens.<<<< I think you're probably taking it too seriously. With 435 congressmen we have to expect a few screwy ones. Congress overall seems to be in favor of leaving the internet alone as much as they can. But that won't last forever. I'm sure in 10 years it'll be pretty tightly regulated. I hope I'm wrong. I don't remember which congressmen they were or which show on CNN told about it. I watch CNN news and also some of their weekend technology shows. It might have been on either. I believe they have a search facility at their site. Another way to find it might be to go to the US Congress site. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:28:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , robert c lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: robert c lewis Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: cc: Rob Lewis In-Reply-To: <20000615180834.XBAI6885.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I thought some time ago I saw a front-light that gets its power from the serial port. Anyone know the source of and power requirements / usability of these? I s'pose is fine if you don't want to use the serial port while you're using the light (which for the most part I wouldn't need). Thanks. Rob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:28:48 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , GJColeman@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: George Coleman Subject: Re: Getting Notetaker&Phonebook Notes into the Rex3 card? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I have transferred the Hplx phonebook without that much trouble. But I > can not get the "Notes" field transferred because when I print this to > a file: > "","" (I have to add a "header" with the fieldnames > before importing) > and then import into Truesync I get a lot of nasty EOL thingys that > mess up the file. This is becuase I have alot of "Enter's" in the > notefield.... > ... > I have not tried GBDDUMP, but I do think that when I played around > some time ago with this I had the same problem with the notefield with > GBDDUMP also. I use GDBDUMP; going through Outlook is too hard. GDBDUMP adds the header, but you need to take out the &'s to make it readable. GDBDUMP tranlsates the Enter's in the notes to "\r\n", so I change them to " / ". Here is how I do it with SED: gdbdump -s phone.pdb | sed -e '1s/&//g' -e 's/\\r\\n/ \/ /g' >fon.txt Then I go to TrueSync-Contacts, Close the file, and import fon.txt. That's it. > I have exported the Hplx Notebook to a file and then imported it into > the Rex3 Truesync application. But this is to cumbersome because I then > get one entery in the Truesync Memos which I then have to "explode" > manually to xx cards by cutting/pasting. Yep, I haven't found any other way to do it yet. However, the notes I keep in the Rex are pretty stable--things like passwords, combinations and network paths--or they are temporary--ike itenieraries. So it's not that much trouble to maintain them manually. > At this point I do not care about syncing the Appointmentbook > Hplx/Rex3. It's Contacts/Memos that are my main concern. For appointments I use Curtis' OL2LX to go to outlook, then import from Outlook in TrueSync. That's pretty easy, but I still have to enter anniversaries/birthdays manually in Outlook, else TrueSync won't pick them up. -George ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:34:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: 100LX vs 200LX differences MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > And where would one find the location of this driver for the 100LX, pray tell? A program called acecard.com used to come with flash cards sold by ACE technologies. It allowed the 100LX to use some flash cards that it couldn't otherwise use. The 200LX doesn't need this program for any flash cards as far as I know. The 200LX does need a special driver (not the same as acecard.com) to use really huge flash cards above 500 Meg or so. I don't know where you can find acecard.com currently since ACE technologies went out of business. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 02:33:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mieke Citroen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mieke Citroen Subject: Re: OT: Eudora For DOS? Comments: To: Bob Christopher In-Reply-To: <200006151159.FAA23451@edison.chisp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Eudora made a change between ver 3x and 4x in response >to styled text. Any styled text email will not automatically >be prefixed with a ">" since that character is also used >as a marker for , and other styles. Ah! I had been struggling with that "feature" as well, and hadn't been able to figure it out. Their reasoning seems pretty ok, but I still think it should be an option, not forced like it is now. That is, I still want to change it back to > >Your post did make me wonder: Was there ever a DOS version of >Eudora? I use the Win 4.01 ver when I'm stuck outside DOSland. Not that I am aware of. -- Mieke. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:33:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <> I can't answer off the top of my head says something since I have used the 200LX in many different poorly lit conditions. The answer turns out to be, yes and no. I just tested it. In dim light (lighting where backlighting will be used most of the time) backlighting makes very little difference. In other words, to answer the question go in dim light and see how useable the keyboard is. My experience is that it is useable but I make more mistakes and depending on lighting might have difficulty reading keyboard labels. I then went into a totally dark room. Without backlighting I couldn't see the keyboard. With backlighting I could see the keys but not the markings. If I moved the screen so it was less then 90 degrees from the keyboard, the light shined on the keyboard and I could see the markings. However, that means I can't see the screen as I type. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:44:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Hal Goldstein wrote: > And now that this has come up, did the proposed backlight actually light > up the keyboard so that you could see what you were typing???>> > > I can't answer off the top of my head says something since I have used the > 200LX in many different poorly lit conditions. > The answer turns out to be, yes and no. Hal is correct; the backlight lights up the keyboard enough to get your bearings, but you'd still better be a pretty good palmtop typist to be able to type in the dark. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:53:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: 100LX vs 200LX differences Comments: cc: "Mack Baggette (E-mail)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <> Mack has promised --- but like all of us is quite busy -- to finalize his driver and put in in the public domain. The driver will read network cards, modem cards, and high capacity storage cards, and probably storage cards on the HP 100LX. He said that some time REAL SOON NOW he would ask for Beta Testers here. Last I heard Mack was updating it for our 56KBaud modem. In my capacity as a "nudge", I am copying Mack on this in the hopes we can encourage him. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:53:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:11:33 +0100 Hans Peter Staber writes: > Microwaves are electromagnetic waves which "stimulate" more or less > everything, which is a dipole. Water is a typical dipol, so is epoxy > or polyurethan or liquid crystals. > I would be very cautious and try out only with a scrap screen. I am surprised this suggestion came up in the first place, or that no one has reported why it is a bad idea. Doesn't everyone here have a Microwave oven? I am sure all of us at some point in time placed something inside which we though was safe (a porcelain plate with a metallic paint edge, for example), and turned our backs just long enough for the fireworks to begin! Another example, I placed a Taco Bell Burrito with a wrapping that had aluminum foil on the inside (they don't sell those anymore), in my Micro oven. It took about five seconds to burst into flames (I was still able to eat it). As far as the bad news, it looks like I'll have to look (for umpteenth time) at a Palm with backlight. I guess I'll cost me about the same I was going to pay for my backlight upgrade. The trick is file sharing with my hplx (I know actual synchronization is out of the question). Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:28:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Nikon Coolpix 100 accessed with a 200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone managed to access a Nikon Coolpix 100 with their 200LX? When I do, the coolpix's display completely lights up and i can't read the ATA drive inside... Any ideas? Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:17:16 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: wear.exe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit doesn't "optimize.exe", 20264 bytes, do the same thing? you wrote: As I understand it, wear does 2 things. First it balances usage. As you write more and more to a sector it begins to take longer and longer to write to until finally it times out and gives an error. Early cards were rated at about 100k writes before this should become a problem. I think current ones are rated at a million writes or more. Wear writes to each sector and times it. Then if some sectors are beginning to slow down it swaps their data with data on faster sectors. This lets all the sectors wear more evenly and last longer. Also, if it finds some bad or nearly bad sectors, it replaces them with extra sectors built into the card for just that purpose. I have no idea how many extra sectors there are. I read this several years ago and I'm not sure wear.exe does both of these things or if wear does the first and the card automatically does the second. I think wear does both. I think newer cards do these things themselves without a program. By the way, wear.exe only works on an lx palmtop. It'll refuse to run on any other pc, declaring that it's not an LX palmtop. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:55:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: wear.exe Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii No, optimize.exe (which comes with Software Carousel) doesn't concern itself with physical disk defects. Optimize just unfragments files, meaning it just moves associated file clusters such that they're physically contiguous. If some of the spots where it chose to write the file were becoming "marginal" in the sense of losing their ability to record data, Optimize wouldn't really care unless it reaches the point of actual failure. Wear.exe is concerned about the physical quality of the read/write for the media, and is thus working at a lower level than optimize. Optimize takes care of the laundry and Wear is the washer repairman. - Longden Nathalie Bugeaud on 06/14/2000 10:17:16 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Nathalie Bugeaud To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: wear.exe doesn't "optimize.exe", 20264 bytes, do the same thing? you wrote: As I understand it, wear does 2 things. First it balances usage. As you write more and more to a sector it begins to take longer and longer to write to until finally it times out and gives an error. Early cards were rated at about 100k writes before this should become a problem. I think current ones are rated at a million writes or more. Wear writes to each sector and times it. Then if some sectors are beginning to slow down it swaps their data with data on faster sectors. This lets all the sectors wear more evenly and last longer. Also, if it finds some bad or nearly bad sectors, it replaces them with extra sectors built into the card for just that purpose. I have no idea how many extra sectors there are. I read this several years ago and I'm not sure wear.exe does both of these things or if wear does the first and the card automatically does the second. I think wear does both. I think newer cards do these things themselves without a program. By the way, wear.exe only works on an lx palmtop. It'll refuse to run on any other pc, declaring that it's not an LX palmtop. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:12:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: LED lights for palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I thought some time ago I saw a front-light that gets its power from the > serial port. Anyone know the source of and power requirements / usability > of these? I made one of these lights and it works fairly well. I downloaded lighton.zip from the SUPER site. It is a tiny TSR that will turn the serial port power on and off for you. The documentation also has some information about which pins on the serial po rt to use. I started with the paltop end of a 200LX serial cable. I attached the LED and enclosed it in a short section of plastic tubing I cut from the body of a cheap ball point pen. Finally, I wrapped a piece of stiff wire around the cable to make it stay in whatever position I wanted. I have it bend in the shape of a backwards letter "C" so it bends up and around to point at the screen. The LED I chose provides a circle of light on the screen, so the corners are rather dark. I have to wait f or my eyes to adapt to the dark before I can see the whole screen. I could do better if I had spent more time selecting the LED, but I didn't want the project to cost much at all. Overall, I can use it if desperate, but I still want a real backlit screen. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:16:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Westley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Westley Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If this idea is pursued, let me know. I can supply the heater, controller, t/c, etc. (I work for Watlow). One suggestion - an aluminum plate might work better due to its heat transfer, machinability, availability, etc. Jim David M Peterson wrote: > I have read through the varoius responses. There are several parts to the > removal of the film. > > The zebra contacts cannot be damaged. > > Heat softens the adhesive. > > Chemical adhesive removers work, but do not go through the film, causing > slow removal times. > > Here is what I would recommend: > > Start with a copper block the size of the area to be heated. Mount a > cartridge heater in it. These heaters are 6.5mm in diameter and about > 25-45mm long. The heaters have a rating of around 200 watts. Mount a > thermocouple close in the copper block (10mm away). Connect both of these > to a temperature controller. > > Get a press. A drill press would even work. Make a clamp assembly to hold > the LCD assembly, including the fragile zebra contacts. All you have to > do is lower the heated block on to the film area. After the determined > amount of time, raise the block and peel the film off. > > At this time, adhesive removers could be used to remove any adhesive > residue. Make sure that you remove adhesive remiver residue (use > alcohol). > > I am thinking about this with the mindset of needing to do this for a low > volume manufacturing environment 100-400 per month. > > Try Watlow, Omron, Etc for parts. The copper block should be milled flat > on the film side. A hole could be drilled and tapped to mount a bolt in > the top to mount in a drill press. > > David Peterson > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:24:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Charles Coughlan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Charles Coughlan Subject: LXPhonebook into Windows MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can someone recommend a good transfer program to merge or update a 200lx phone database into Windows Outlook. Thanks, Charles ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:56:20 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: BOB1 Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: ddvteach@JUNO.COM MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit D Dv wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:11:33 +0100 Hans Peter Staber > writes: > > Microwaves are electromagnetic waves which "stimulate" more or less > > everything, which is a dipole. Water is a typical dipol, so is epoxy > > or polyurethan or liquid crystals. > > I would be very cautious and try out only with a scrap screen. > > I am surprised this suggestion came up in the first place, or that no one > has reported why it is a bad idea. Doesn't everyone here have a > Microwave oven? I am sure all of us at some point in time placed > something inside which we though was safe (a porcelain plate > with a metallic paint edge, for example), and turned our backs > just long enough for the fireworks to begin! Another example, > I placed a Taco Bell Burrito with a wrapping that had aluminum > foil on the inside (they don't sell those anymore), in my Micro oven. > It took about five seconds to burst into flames (I was still able to eat > it). > > As far as the bad news, it looks like I'll have to look (for umpteenth > time) at a > Palm with backlight. I guess I'll cost me about the same I was going to > pay > for my backlight upgrade. The trick is file sharing with my hplx (I > know actual > synchronization is out of the question). > > Domingo > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml To: all LX'S I know this sounds out of the question could we enlist the help of HP??? (FOR A SPECIAL PROJECT) They probably have trash all of their plans for HP200LX. It's just a thought I know it's out in left field and any way if they did help the project no one would make any $$$ but HP. Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 03:38:38 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Westley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Westley Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not a problem. I have a test rig I could loan that could easily be mailed. It can handle the (relatively) low wattage requirements and does an excellent job of temperature control. It is about the size of a shoebox. It is basically an single loop industrial temperature controller with power controls and thermocouple\rtd inputs. If I know the size of the aluminum block, I can send to you appropriately sized heaters and sensors. (I assume you are going to use 120 v?) David Sargeant wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Jim Westley wrote: > > > If this idea is pursued, let me know. I can supply the heater, > > controller, t/c, etc. (I work for Watlow). One suggestion - an > > aluminum plate might work better due to its heat transfer, > > machinability, availability, etc. > > If I send you the dimensions of the rear film, can you send me some kind > of sample so we can find out if this sort of aluminum block heater will do > the job? Thanks! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:47:16 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Update to FFDB 2.0 - 2.01 Comments: To: Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brian, What address to you want postcards sent to? Brian McIlvaine wrote: > > All - > > I have sent an update to FFDB to Ian at hplx.net. This fixes a bug in the > search function that would let it miss some hits in the file and speeds it up a > little bit. > > Also - if no search results are found, no windows will come up in the search > window - press ESC to restore all the windows. > > To those of you that recently asked for source code, it you don't get a > response in the next two days, please ask again. > > Brian > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- Patrick West pgp 2.6.2 key fingerprint = 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 20:41:40 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michelle Honey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michelle Honey Subject: Re: Where is everybody?? Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud In-Reply-To: <012101bfd1d4$19a0be20$4e8bfcc1@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:17 09/06/2000 +0200, you wrote: > >LW editor with spell checker leaves me 480k with maxdos, but PalEdit only >leaves 34k > What is LW editor? Where can it be obtained? Merci Craig Honey ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:32:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joseph Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Lee Subject: CCMail and MS Outlook Express MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know how to exchange emails between the two? I would like to receive my mail and read/send replies from CCMail. Thanks in advance. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 00:18:42 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix 100 accessed with a 200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't tried; My bet's that the 200LX isn't supplying enough power to the Coolpix 100, quite fast enough to throw it into PCMCIA Card mode, probably. Mark Fryday wrote: > Has anyone managed to access a Nikon Coolpix 100 with their 200LX? When I do, the coolpix's display completely lights up and i can't > read the ATA drive inside... > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 01:07:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: What wear.exe does (I think) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > >>>>>want to know is what WEAR.EXE *does* so my microcontrollers > that use > Flash cards can potentially do the same...<<<<<< > > I missed this part of your question last time. I'm probably not the > best qualified to answer this, having only used PCMCIA as a user, > but I can tell you what I've read. > > As I understand it, wear does 2 things. First it balances usage. > As you write more and more to a sector it begins to take longer and > longer to write to until finally it times out and gives an error. > Early cards were rated at about 100k writes before this should > become a problem. I think current ones are rated at a million > writes or more. Sure - Any flash filing system does this The internal details of what it changes are what I am wondering about. Having the code, I can disassemble it and take a look, when I get to 'er > Wear writes to each sector and times it. Then if some sectors are > beginning to slow down it swaps their data with data on faster > sectors. This lets all the sectors wear more evenly and last > longer. OK, that makes sense. Benchmark, at the cost of a write cycle, instead of just flat wear levelling (i.e. test instead of just making sure you use the least-used sectors first.) Hard choices on optimizing those. > Also, if it finds some bad or nearly bad sectors, it replaces them > with extra sectors built into the card for just that purpose. I > have no idea how many extra sectors there are. > > I read this several years ago and I'm not sure wear.exe does both of > these things or if wear does the first and the card automatically > does the second. I think wear does both. I think newer cards do > these things themselves without a program. > > By the way, wear.exe only works on an lx palmtop. It'll refuse to > run on any other pc, declaring that it's not an LX palmtop. > > Barry OK, thanks - Probably will look inside the file to see what it's doing, knowing what to look for's a good idea. The manufacturer hasn't answered my questions yet either, fortunately I can re-write the code as we go, don't have to get it right the first try. Won't get it done this week, though - This week's contained things like a battery in my Palm Pro I use for some things exploding, Tuesday (just bulged the case - no damage to the Palm, but I sorta flinched - took a while to figure it out! Has anyone else here had a Duracell go Crack! on them?). Then got to rescue the 'little old lady next door' neighbor's old poodle yesterday (He's a good old kid, arthritic and with mouth cancer, though, sadly) - he ran off and disappeared, after looking I found him in the ditch way across the street (What a mess. 7 or 8 foot deep ditch, foot of water over mud in the bottom, by the time I found him he was near hypothermia, found a strap so I could get out, got him out, climbed out, he fell back in. Repeat too many more times (he was just so wiped out that he couldn't keep from slipping down the slope, and I was getting pretty frustrated!) Finally got both of us out of there, by now we were "quite a pair", the strap chewed on my hands each time I climbed out; Took him home (he has been subdued since then, probably still rather sore!), went and cleaned up. NOT my favorite week, all in all. I'm NOT as caught up as I thought I'd be. Glad I managed to find him, though. I'd ask for a rematch but would probably GET it, maybe better to surrender Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 01:14:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Please note, that I won't make any light in the next time (I made 10 of > them some time ago and sold them), because I really don't have time to > do so. But if there is interest, maybe another person is willing to > make a few of them. (Mark? ;-¨) > > GTX > daniel Thinking, the problem's how to mount it on the LX - Maybe I should just make a batch the way you made 'em if people want these. Think I'm being too perfectionist on some things! Have a good idea, need to finish figuring out the last details. Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 01:19:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: FIRO. First in, Random out. Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Sargeant wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Mike Kopplin wrote: > > How about a heat lamp? No moving air, and you could adjust the > > temperature by the distance. A big enough lamp should give fairly even > > heating too. Or by directed do you mean just apply heat to the > > adhesive area? > > That's what I mean -- it needs to be applied just to the adhesive area and > not blow off to the sides like a hair dryer would. Perhaps a very small > hot lamp placed right next to the rear of the screen for a few seconds > could soften the adhesive enough to pull the reflective sticker off with > no problems ... Some Silicone rubbers can be used for this sort of thing - Gentle heat on say a AL block attached to an adjustable heat source (cheap Radio Shack soldering iron on an autotransformer? ), silicone to act to transfer the heat with good surface contact and little stress to the display? I'd wonder what could be done with an arc light and a mask, also (Dump heat into the glass through the plastic, as well as the plastic?) That one's one for the dead sample displays, definitely, it dumps a lot of deep heat in there in a fair hurry. I'd lean towards fairly slow, gentle, even heat as much as possible (hmmm, clamp the Zebra strips with cold AL blocks to lock them in place? Just be careful not to crack the glass...) Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:31:19 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled > has reported why it is a bad idea. Doesn't everyone here have a > Microwave oven? I am sure all of us at some point in time placed :-) No. But I heard that a cd turned upside down makes a great light show. Almost so that I want a microwave to try it out... I suppose it must be a commercial cd, with an aluminium layer. br Franklin (Who was surprised at the suggestion...) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 03:11:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled In-Reply-To: <048101bfd775$a1e5ca40$0401a8c0@fex> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Franklin Eekhout wrote: > But I heard that a cd turned upside down makes a great light show. > Almost so that I want a microwave to try it out... It works quite well -- it's particularly satisfying to do with all those free AOL CDs you get in the mail. You don't have to turn it upside-down, though; the microwave will make a fascinating lightning show any way you stick it in the microwave. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 08:52:11 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix 100 accessed with a 200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It does not work. It will not work, as far as anyone can determine. Whether it is power or incompatibility with the PCMCIA chipset or something else, the Coolpix 100 is slightly non-standard, as ATA flash devices go. The Nikon Coolpix 100 works under DOS on a Compaq Contura Aero 433c, as well as under Windows 95 and Windows 98. It works just fine under Windows 95 on an IBM ThinkPad 365xd. It works fine with either the SMC Microsystems SwapBox Classic or the Databook TMB240 in a 500 MHz Pentium III deskside system running Windows 98 and in a 486-class server. But it does not work in either of these adapters with a 233 MHz Pentium II running Windows 95 (which can use all my other PCMCIA devices -- SCSI adapter, ethernet card, ethernet/modem combo card, 30 MB Compact Flash in type II adapter, SRAM cards, IDE hard drive adapter) nor does it work in a Digital HiNote 75 MHz notebook. Nikon's technical support was not much help. They insist that they got the implementation right and the systems with which they are incompatible got it wrong. Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:33:26 -0400 Reply-To: jwittkamper@v-one.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Wittkamper Subject: PMCIA Extenders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A year or two ago I somebody was advertising a device that could be plugged into the PMCIA port and converted to 2 ports. I'm interested what kind of luck people had with this device on the 200LX, and whether it is still being sold. Keep Smilin' John Wittkamper :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:25:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Jun 2000 to 15 Jun 2000 (#2000-214) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>This is very much like the government coming along and throwing up a toll booth on your driveway<<<<< Shhhh! Don't give them any ideas! Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:44:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Jun 2000 to 15 Jun 2000 (#2000-214) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>I thought some time ago I saw a front-light that gets its power from the serial port. Anyone know the source of and power requirements / usability of these? I s'pose is fine if you don't want to use the serial port while you're using the light (which for the most part I wouldn't need). Thanks.<<<< Things like this might work out for a few users but they'e inconvenient, bulky and reduce the LX's portability. There is also the fact that if we do come up with a not too terrible but inconvenient solution there will be less incentive for them to keep trying to make the backlight work. My reading of what I've heard is not that they've totally given up on ever having a backlight, but that they've reached a stumbling block and have cancelled the project but are still putting a lot of thought into it. These are some very creative people. I have a Palm 3x and a Palm 3c. The 3x has a screen about as contrasty as the 200lx screen. Maybe just a little better but not much. It's fine in good light, a little better than the 200lx in mediocre light, and totally unreadible, like the 200lx in less than mediocre light. The 3c is sold as a color Palm but that's really not it's strength. It's backlit as well as any laptop screen. Maybe brighter. Light just simply has no effect on readibility. It's like looking at your crt or your laptop screen. It's great unless it's in sunlight. Then it becomes useless. For most of us that isn't much of a problem. The 3c is so much nicer that after 20 minutes of using it I would have paid twice as much for it as I did for the 3x instead of just 1/3 more. It makes the machine about 100 times more usable. You just can't really appreciate the difference till you use it a little while. I have no idea whether the 200lx will be that bright or not, but from what we've been told I suspect it will be a very major improvement. I didn't decide to get one until I was told the project was cancelled. Now I realize I was just postponing the guilt :). I want one and I'll pay what I have to to get it. So keep thinking. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 07:46:26 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@juno.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Fonts in LX DBs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all Has anyone used different fonts inside a std LX DB? That is put diff types or size of type inside a GDB, PDB, NDB? Kan it be done, How? TIA Yor pal al.......................... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:50:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: lit keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>Hal is correct; the backlight lights up the keyboard enough to get your bearings, but you'd still better be a pretty good palmtop typist to be able to type in the dark.<<<<< I have the same problem to a lesser extent with my Palm 3c. I can't see the keys or the Grafiti area or the silk screen buttons next to it. This made it difficult to use for a little while but it didn't take long to learn where everything was and now it's fairly easy to find what I need without a lot of thought. Of course that will be more complex with the 200lx and it's greater number of smaller keys. But I suspect that in the long run it'll be easier to learn than the Palm since we'll be using our fingers instead of a stylus. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:58:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Microwaving metal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>I am surprised this suggestion came up in the first place, or that no one has reported why it is a bad idea. Doesn't everyone here have a Microwave oven? I am sure all of us at some point in time placed something inside which we though was safe (a porcelain plate with a metallic paint edge, for example), and turned our backs just long enough for the fireworks to begin! Another example, I placed a Taco Bell Burrito with a wrapping that had aluminum foil on the inside (they don't sell those anymore), in my Micro oven. It took about five seconds to burst into flames (I was still able to eat it).<<<<< I have a small Panasonic microwave. The only full featured high powered (1100w) microwave I could find that would fit the small spot I have for it. It allows the use of some metal. The manual says that small bits of tinfoil or gold on plates won't bother it. Anything within tinfoil won't be heated, though. I've warmed up a burrito that comes in a tinfoil covered paper tray in it a few times (the burrito is over the tinfoil) and it worked just fine. The technology is changing. I bought this about 2 years ago for (I think) $249. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:00:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Jun 2000 to 15 Jun 2000 (#2000-214) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: wear.exe > doesn't "optimize.exe", 20264 bytes, do the same thing? > > As I understand it, wear does 2 things. First it balances usage. I'm not familiar with optmize.exe. What is that? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:04:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Optimize.exe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>Optimize just unfragments files, meaning it just moves associated file clusters such that they're physically contiguous. If some of the spots where it chose to write the file were becoming "marginal" in the sense of losing their ability to record data, Optimize wouldn't really care unless it reaches the point of actual failure. > Wear.exe is concerned about the physical quality of the read/write for the media, and is thus working at a lower level than optimize.<<<<<< So that's what optimize does. :) I would think that on a card where wear.exe has been used and has actually had to do wear leveling, it would be wise not to use optimize or any defragmenter. That could undo what wear.exe has already done. And since the card is really memory, defragmentation isn't important anyway. There are no moving heads and the purpose of defragmentation is to reduce head movement. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:19:01 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Fonts in LX DBs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:57:30 -0400 (EDT) 11m04s ago ... On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, hobchi wrote: > Has anyone used different fonts inside a > std LX DB? That is put diff types or size > of type inside a GDB, PDB, NDB? > Kan it be done, How? Not really. You could use a font loader to change the LX fonts globally (including *.db), but I don't think any internal change to the *.db fonts alone is possible. Could also try Ipex to embed images of titles etc (as .pcx files). Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:37:43 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I can't answer off the top of my head says something since I have used the > 200LX in many different poorly lit conditions. > > The answer turns out to be, yes and no. Hal, thanks for turning out the lights in Iowa to run your test! (G) And as usual, thanks for your continued support of the HP200 platform. Fred ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:37:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > But I heard that a cd turned upside down makes a great light show. > > Almost so that I want a microwave to try it out... > > It works quite well -- it's particularly satisfying to do with all those > free AOL CDs you get in the mail. You don't have to turn it > upside-down, though; the microwave will make a fascinating lightning show > any way you stick it in the microwave. You people are the Edison's of our time!!!! (g) I do recall one of my first encounters with a microwave oven. It was at school and I placed a cold turkey leg well wrapped in aluminum foil inside. Turned it on high for 3 minutes and ........... It was spectacular and no one would approach it for the full 3 minutes!!!! I did not know foil was a BIG NO-NO!!! Maybe I'll try it on 4th of July - in a neighbor's house! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:44:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Microwaving metal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > > I placed a Taco Bell Burrito with a wrapping that had aluminum > foil on the inside (they don't sell those anymore), in my Micro > oven. > It took about five seconds to burst into flames (I was still able to > eat > it).<<<<< > > Well, of course! You would not want to throw out a perfectly good burrito just because it had BEEN on FIRE! ;) Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:23:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: ÝOT¨ Email charges MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > This could be one of the silliest things I've read in a long time - how, > exactly, would this work? The only infrastructure the Gov't. would own > would be the "tollbooths" designed to generate bills for email that passes > through them! > As far as I know, this is just another of many such e-mail hoaxes that have been circulating since modems came into popular use. However, if it *were* true, all the Gov't would have to do is charge ISPs an amount based on an estimate of the number of e-mails their customers send. Like sales taxes, it would then become the job of the ISP to track actual e-mail use by customer and charge each customer the Gov't's new tax on a per e-mail basis. Bottom line: The customers pay more, the ISP does all the work, and the Gov't gets all the money. Better still, the Gov't could push this legislation through by saying that it is only meant to fight evil spammers. The Gov't may even promise to eliminate the tax some day when they can be certain that spamming has been eliminated. But, of course, this could never happen. The Gov't is only here to help us. Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:59:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Microwaving metal Comments: To: barry@FBTC.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:58:25 -0500 Barry writes: > I have a small Panasonic microwave. The only full featured high > powered (1100w) microwave I could find that would fit the small spot > I have for it. It allows the use of some metal. The manual says > that small bits of tinfoil or gold on plates won't bother it. Hmm . . . mine is a large one which takes a good bit of kitchen counter space. It's a powerful machine designed for large amounts of food. Maybe that's the difference, rather than the technology . . . > Anything within tinfoil won't be heated, though. I've warmed up a > burrito that comes in a tinfoil covered paper tray in it a few times > (the burrito is over the tinfoil) and it worked just fine. > The technology is changing. I bought this about 2 years ago for (I > think) $249. I use such food products all the time. The tray is designed for a microwave oven, rather than the other way around, I believe. The wrapping I described was designed to help keep food warm. But it was disguised by an outer paper covering, that's why I did not notice. I think Taco Bell realized what people were doing, and took the foil out of the wraps. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:55:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Microwaving metal Comments: To: ddvteach@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>I use such food products all the time. The tray is designed for a microwave oven, rather than the other way around, I believe. The wrapping I described was designed to help keep food warm. But it was disguised by an outer paper covering, that's why I did not notice. I think Taco Bell realized what people were doing, and took the foil out of the wraps.<<<<<<< It explains in the manual that it's designed to handle small amounts of metal. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:50:53 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@juno.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Fonts in LX DBs Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Peniel for reply, I'm aware of Ipex. Just wanted to be a bit artistic in DBs. yor pal al....................... > > > Has anyone used different fonts inside a > > std LX DB? That is put diff types or size > > of type inside a GDB, PDB, NDB? > > Kan it be done, How? > > Not really. You could use a font loader to change the LX fonts globally (including *.db), but I don't think any internal change to the *.db fonts alone is possible. Could also try Ipex to embed images > of titles etc (as .pcx files). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:55:57 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@juno.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: LX 95 kradle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all weakend spring garage sale. Anyone innerested in a 95 kradle/dock???? Brand new/never ever used W/SW. Orig pkg. HP F1006B $25 inc postage. Last one! yor pal al........................... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:02:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Marcos Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marcos Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Jun 2000 to 15 Jun 2000 (#2000-214) Comments: To: Barry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:00:48 -0500, HPLX Mailing List and Barry wrote: > From: Nathalie Bugeaud > Subject: wear.exe > > > doesn't "optimize.exe", 20264 bytes, do the same thing? > > > > As I understand it, wear does 2 things. First it balances > usage. > > I'm not familiar with optmize.exe. What is that? > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU BUT PLEASE STOP SENDING ME MESSAGE! _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:16:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Jun 2000 to 15 Jun 2000 (#2000-214) Comments: To: Marcos MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:00:24 -0400 (EDT) 57m58s ago ... On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Marcos wrote: > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU BUT PLEASE STOP SENDING ME MESSAGE! You must be subscribed to the HPLX-L mailing list. If you want to unsubscribe, go to the address above and follow the "unsubscribe" instructions. PR ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 00:27:43 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: OT-ish: Rex-Pro on closeout in UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable None left in Lincoln, Grimsby, Scunthorpe & Sheffield. Will try London (wherever that is ;-) ) ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Jez Cunningham wrote: > BT (British Telecom) shops are selling off their Rex-Pro credit-card-siz= e > organizers (the -Pro has edit functionality, 512k memory...) with = docking > station for UKP29.99 !! > > I got the last one (ex-display) in Bath. > > Good luck > jez ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 00:27:48 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: ÝOT¨ Email charges MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Ken Hansen wrote: > This could be one of the silliest things I've read in a long time - = how, > exactly, would this work? The only infrastructure the Gov't. would own > would be the "tollbooths" designed to generate bills for email that = passes > through them! > > This is very much like the government coming along and throwing up a > toll booth on your driveway - they don't own the road, just the booth > that is collecting the tolls. Here in the UK between 1695 and 1851 each house was taxed on the number of windows (no not that sort!) that it had. Your toll booth on the driveway sounds quote sensible by comparison. ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:31:30 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Valles Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Valles Subject: Re: pcmcia slot extender MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pcmcia extender was called doubleslot from accurite Technologys the product works great as long as you don't have a clock upgrade on your 200lx I use one and run a 520meg typeIII hard drive along with my compact flash card. Transfer jpeg photos to the hard drive. I also can use with a flopy disk drive or pcmcia modem. I just bought a second doubleslot from accurite about a month ago they still have a few units left you reach them at jbuell@accurite.com Heres a copy of a e-mail they sent me: -------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, we still have DoubleSlots in stock; however, it has been discontinued from production. Unfortunately, the DoubleSlot is not compatible with 200LX units that have had the speed-up kit installed. The units that Thadeus will be selling may have been upgraded. The price of the DoubleSlot is $149 plus shipping and handling. -------------------------------------------------------------- John Valles ------Orginal message--------- John Wittkamper Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 6:33 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: PMCIA Extenders A year or two ago I somebody was advertising a device that could be plugged into the PMCIA port and converted to 2 ports. I'm interested what kind of luck people had with this device on the 200LX, and whether it is still being sold. Keep Smilin' John Wittkamper :-) J ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:31:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Sprague Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Sprague Subject: Xircom 56k Compact Flash Modem? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gang, I have a Xircom 56k CF modem I bought for my Compaq Aero. My 200LX (just bought) is off at Thaddeus being upgraded right now but I should have it back by midweek next week (boy are those folks fast!). I was wondering if anyone here has tried using one of these with a CF->PCMCIA adapter? The modem is realy low powered but it's a bit thicker than a CF card. Any opinion would be greatly appreciated. Best, Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 09:48:47 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: HPLX news server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I signed up 5 days ago at the HPLX news server at http://news.hplx.net/ , and am still awaiting approval. According to the site, "it may take up to 24 hours to complete". How long more to wait ? The HPLX news server has the following newsgroups. Looks interesting. hp200.general: General palmtop-related conversations and questions. hp200.software: Palmtop software questions and discussions. hp200.hardware: Palmtop hardware questions and discussions. hp200.vendors: Questions to and statements by palmtop vendors. hp200.programmers: Discussions on programming for and on the palmtop. hp200.programmers.asg: Headquarters for the Advanced Software Group's 200LX project. hp200.fireside: Anything goes. hp200.science: Discussion of scientific use of palmtops. hp200.medical: Discussion of use of palmtops in medical profession or medical school. hp200.relig.*: Specific groups for discussing religious-oriented palmtop use, applications, or projects. hp200.advocacy: For convincing people of the 200LX's superiority. Flame wars are allowed here. hp200.newbies: For new 200LX users to ask questions which will be answered by experts. hp200.minix: Discussions related to Minix on the palmtop. wince.hardware: Discussions of WinCE hardware, peripherals, and upgrades. wince.fireside: Anything goes. wince.general: Discussions of WinCE-based palmtops. wince.software: Discussions of WinCE software. wince.programmers: Discussions of WinCE programming. wince.recovery: For people who have quit using WinCE, or want to. cyberspace.genesis: For discussing Andreas Garzotto's intriguing cyberspace project. list.hplx: A complete mirror of postings to the HPLX-L mailing list. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:58:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Jun 2000 to 15 Jun 2000 (#2000-214) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcos" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" ; Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 6:02 PM Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Jun 2000 to 15 Jun 2000 (#2000-214) > > On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:00:48 -0500, HPLX Mailing List and Barry wrote: > > > From: Nathalie Bugeaud > > Subject: wear.exe > > > > > doesn't "optimize.exe", 20264 bytes, do the same thing? > > > > > > As I understand it, wear does 2 things. First it balances > > usage. > > > > I'm not familiar with optmize.exe. What is that? > > > > Barry > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU BUT PLEASE STOP SENDING ME MESSAGE! Me? I don't understand. I'm sending this to the 200lx list Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:04:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: 100LX success Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to everyone who helped out--I got a 100LX (my first) and got it going without a manual! I don't have a serial cable yet, so I sent all the files I wanted to my ISP and downloaded them to the LX, using the built-in telecomm app. It wasn't too great, but it worked, especially after I went ahead and tried 9600 baud (I got a Thinfax card from a list member). The weird stuff at the higher baud rate didn't bother the downloads. I put QuickLink II on the flash part of the Thinfax card, and it works very nicely, very smoothly. (Unfortunately the plain 2MB flash card I got wouldn't work--it will format but says it can't write BOOT, and then it is inaccessible-- general failure error.) I'm not sure yet, but I think if I charge it every night I can leave the Thinfax card (modem and 2MB)in the slot. I really love it for quick processing of text information files for school management. It's nicely quick even at normal speed, although I'm still thinking of getting a double speed 200LX with more RAM. But the absolute best is doing Juno e-mail, using the Lynx text browser on my ISP--just incredible! Mark /\_/\ ( o o ) ==¬== beamsplitter@juno.com www.stmattpitt.org ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:32:24 -0500 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Organization: Times2 Tech Subject: Re: pcmcia slot extender In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The speed upgrade information for the DoubleSlot is not a general problem as I have a unit and it works fine with their latest driver. There are limitations to the use of a DoubleSlot with 2 cards at the same time, but I don't remember what they are. I do know there were some folks with problems, though. Cheers, Mack > Pcmcia extender was called doubleslot from accurite Technologys > the product works great as long as you don't have a clock upgrade on your > 200lx > I use one and run a 520meg typeIII hard drive along with my compact flash > card. Transfer jpeg photos to the hard drive. I also can use with a flopy > disk drive or pcmcia modem. > I just bought a second doubleslot from accurite about a month ago they > still have a few units left you reach them at jbuell@accurite.com > Heres a copy of a e-mail they sent me: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, we still have DoubleSlots in stock; however, it has been > discontinued from production. > Unfortunately, the DoubleSlot is not compatible with 200LX > units that have had the speed-up kit installed. The units > that Thadeus will be selling may have been upgraded. > The price of the DoubleSlot is $149 plus shipping and > handling. > -------------------------------------------------------------- > John Valles ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 06:50:58 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: wear.exe Comments: To: Longden_Loo@candle.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Wear.exe is concerned about the physical quality of the read/write for the > media, and is thus working at a lower level than optimize. so, wear undoes what optimise has put to order?!? > Optimize takes care of the laundry and Wear is the washer repairman. lovely, Longden, you always remind me that there is more to life than computers :)) re. washer repair man.... you heard about the washer woman? It's about the insane asylum inmate who escapes and rapes a woman working in the laundry... Next day the local Newspaper Headline reads: NUT SCREWS WASHER AND BOLTS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 05:18:24 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: ÝOT¨ Email charges Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Here in the UK between 1695 and 1851 each house was taxed on > the number of windows (no not that sort!) that it had. Your > toll booth on the driveway sounds quote sensible by comparison. Boy, did we do the right thing, that 4th of July (not really that date) those many years ago! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 05:18:35 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: 100LX success Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > it works very nicely, very smoothly. (Unfortunately the > plain 2MB flash card I got wouldn't work--it will format > but says it can't write BOOT, and then it is inaccessible-- > general failure error.) I don't know what the "write BOOT" message is all about. But you should only need to format the card - do not do a SYS or anything like that. And you might need to fdisk (on the d: drive) The BOOT info for the 100/200 is internal as is the dos. Altho, the 100 is a bit more finicky about certain times of flashcards than the 200. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 06:46:03 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: wear.exe In-Reply-To: <20000617040020.30890gmx1@mx17.gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello Barry, Am 17 Jun 2000, um 0:00, schrieb Automatic digest processor ueber "HPLX-L Digest - 15 Jun 2000 to 16 Jun 2000 (#2000": > And since the card is really memory, defragmentation > isn't important anyway. There are no moving heads and the purpose of > defragmentation is to reduce head movement. > thats true, although I had the problem that when I wanted to use TREMM once, I had the message on screen, that I should use optimize first, because the install program could not find enough unfragmented space on my memory card. And I did not have opitimize of course :-( I did it with deleting the whole card after a backup and copying back all. (thats probably the same thing what optimize does but step by step) best regards, Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 10:01:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: HPLX news server Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000617092725.02c45a60@post1.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Looks interesting. almost zero traffic in the hp sections nothing to miss there ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 22:16:57 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: HPLX news server In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:01 AM 6/17/00 -0400, Larry Tachna wrote: > >>Looks interesting. > >almost zero traffic in the hp sections nothing to miss there Could it be that not many users are aware of the existence of the HPLX news server? I subscribe to this list in digest mode, and from what I know we can see the latest postings in the news server using a newsreader software. Perhaps the need for approval to be a user of the news server has put off many potential users. In my view, this is not good for maintaining interest in HPxxxLX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 11:06:38 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Micron FRONT Lighting! Comments: To: "F. Kaufman" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 15 Jun 2000, "F. Kaufman" wrote: > If we are talking those little "arrowhead" shaped lights - REI has them in various colors. They are also available at Real Goods, www.realgoods.com Vic ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:02:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: pcmcia slot extender Comments: To: Mack Baggette MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mack, I do not need to run two cards at a time, but would like a PCMCIA extender that would allow me to measure the current and voltage on various lines when a card is installed on the outboard end. Such widgets are made for RS-232 connections. Do you know of one for PCMCIA? Vic On 16 Jun 2000, Mack Baggette wrote: > The speed upgrade information for the DoubleSlot is not a general > problem as I have a unit and it works fine with their latest driver. > There are limitations to the use of a DoubleSlot with 2 cards at the > same time, but I don't remember what they are. I do know there were > some folks with problems, though. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 09:07:42 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Subject: PCMCIA Disks, Flash Disk Protectors and Name Brand Sandisks are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have (7) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available. These disks are in excellent condition and have only been used a few times in testing a customer's new prototype products at work. I am selling (1) 20 Meg disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. If you are only interested in name brand Sandisks, I am selling (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks as well. I sell (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for $40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. I still have some PCMCIA Protectors as well. They are a very nice thick leather pouch with a strong Velcro seal on them. I sell them for $4.00 a piece and if you would like (3) or more then I sell them for $3.00 a piece. I accept Money Orders Only! and you can mail payment to my address at: Scott Moore 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street Beaverton, Or 97006 I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let you know that your disk or (disks) are on the way. I always send them out the very next day unless i receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on Monday. I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded envelope for a safe delivery. If you are interested, email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you. The response so far has been just terrific and the people I have worked with have been just great! Thanks alot! Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 11:29:02 -0500 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Organization: Times2 Tech Subject: Re: pcmcia slot extender Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200006171602.MAA02592@sphmraaa.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am sure there is such a product, but I don't know where you could get one. I am sure you could rig a DoubleSlot for that, but you would have to take off the plastic cover. Voltage would be easy, but for current you would have to modify it. > I do not need to run two cards at a time, but would like a > PCMCIA extender that would allow me to measure the current and > voltage on various lines when a card is installed on the > outboard end. Such widgets are made for RS-232 connections. Do > you know of one for PCMCIA? Cheers, Mack mailto:mack@times2tech.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:02:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ray.simons@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ray Simons Subject: Re: pcmcia slot extender Comments: To: mack@times2tech.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Accurite provides two probes. Am not sure if either can be used with the 200lx. http://www.accurite.com/DProveAE.html Ray On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 11:29:02 -0500 Mack Baggette writes: > I am sure there is such a product, but I don't know where you could > get one. I am sure you could rig a DoubleSlot for that, but you > would > have to take off the plastic cover. Voltage would be easy, but for > current you would have to modify it. > > > I do not need to run two cards at a time, but would like a > > PCMCIA extender that would allow me to measure the current and > > voltage on various lines when a card is installed on the > > outboard end. Such widgets are made for RS-232 connections. Do > > you know of one for PCMCIA? > > Cheers, > Mack > > mailto:mack@times2tech.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Ray Simons 6263 Rockland Road Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 Phone: 678-580-2540 Fax: 678-580-2520 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:18:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ray.simons@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ray Simons Subject: Re: pcmcia slot extender MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, but that should be: http://www.Accurite.com/DProbeAE.html Ray On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:02:50 -0700 Ray Simons writes: > Accurite provides two probes. Am not sure if either can be used > with the 200lx. http://www.accurite.com/DProveAE.html > > Ray > > On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 11:29:02 -0500 Mack Baggette > > writes: > > I am sure there is such a product, but I don't know where you > could > > get one. I am sure you could rig a DoubleSlot for that, but you > > would > > have to take off the plastic cover. Voltage would be easy, but for > > current you would have to modify it. > > > > > I do not need to run two cards at a time, but would like a > > > PCMCIA extender that would allow me to measure the current and > > > voltage on various lines when a card is installed on the > > > outboard end. Such widgets are made for RS-232 connections. Do > > > you know of one for PCMCIA? > > > > Cheers, > > Mack > > > > mailto:mack@times2tech.com > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > Ray Simons > 6263 Rockland Road > Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 > Phone: 678-580-2540 > Fax: 678-580-2520 > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Ray Simons 6263 Rockland Road Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 Phone: 678-580-2540 Fax: 678-580-2520 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:36:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Cat-Distracted Technical Folks, Anonymous Subject: Re: Microwaving metal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For giggles: http://www.cornwell.demon.co.uk/micro1.htm - "Melting metal in a domestic microwave". How to use a spare microwave (slightly modified) as a smelting tool for up to 250g of bronze, silver, white metal, or iron... (They use a carbon heat absorber, sorta like that Burrito was after the fire!? Then some magnetite sand stucco, semi-involved, interesting to know it can be done!) Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:54:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Cat-Distracted Technical Folks, Anonymous Subject: Re: pcmcia slot extender MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not impossibly hard to make your own (I intend to get to making a set for myself, with additionally some external power HDD adapters for running PCMCIA HDD's externally to the LX.) If you can make your own PC boards, that is. DynaArt has good ideas, though you can do it cheaper than their systems, http://www.dynaart.com/ for them. http://www.Accurite.com/HeadStart.html or http://www.Accurite.com/ExtenderCard.html are better URLs for PCMCIA stuff IMO (Other link's for Floppy drives?!) When I get to 'em, I may offer those - They're way overpriced at most places selling them IMO, it'd be better yet to make these 4-layer boards - I know how to cheat and make them 4-layer at home. (Thinking sneaky can be a good thing ) Question for anyone with a 520Mb HDD on a PCMCIA Adapter - is a driver needed? I have a 520ish Kingston that it'd be nice to be able to get at from the 200LX's, occasionally. Can just use the 40's or 170's, of course. Mark Victor Roberts wrote: > Mack, > > I do not need to run two cards at a time, but would like a > PCMCIA extender that would allow me to measure the current and > voltage on various lines when a card is installed on the > outboard end. Such widgets are made for RS-232 connections. Do > you know of one for PCMCIA? > > Vic > > On 16 Jun 2000, Mack Baggette wrote: > > > The speed upgrade information for the DoubleSlot is not a general > > problem as I have a unit and it works fine with their latest driver. > > There are limitations to the use of a DoubleSlot with 2 cards at the > > same time, but I don't remember what they are. I do know there were > > some folks with problems, though. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:11:20 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: pcmcia slot extender Comments: To: John Valles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Pcmcia extender was called doubleslot from accurite Technologys the >product works great as long as you don't have a clock upgrade on >your 200lx. I use one and run a 520meg typeIII hard drive along with >my compact flash card. Transfer jpeg photos to the hard drive. I >also can use with a flopy disk drive or pcmcia modem. > >I just bought a second doubleslot from accurite about a month ago they >still have a few units left you reach them at > jbuell@accurite.com > >Heres a copy of a e-mail they sent me: >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Yes, we still have DoubleSlots in stock; however, it has been >discontinued from production. > >Unfortunately, the DoubleSlot is not compatible with 200LX >units that have had the speed-up kit installed. Boy! If I had known that it wouldn't work with my doublespeed 200 LX, then I guess I probably wouldn't be USING it with my doublespeed 200 LX.... Bottom line: it works, but not as well as advertised. I have only been able to utilize BOTH slots a couple of times (trying to backup an 80-meg Flash card to my 520-meg Kingston Type III hard drive). But I don't have any trouble using the Type III alone. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:29:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: 100LX success Hi Mark, >But the absolute best is doing Juno e-mail, using the Lynx >text browser on my ISP--just incredible! Trying to run Juno email on my HP200LX while running Windows 3.0 was a project that I abandoned many moons ago. I found that even a 386 running Windows 3.0 sometimes took hours to load and display the graphic advertising that the Juno software includes, not to mention that it took all of the processor power to display some of the ads making typing an email all but impossible. If you can access your Juno email with the Lynx text browser, I'd be very interested in details on how you are doing it. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:32:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Printing Probelm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFD8B4.572C57E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFD8B4.572C57E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I try to print from the application manager from the desktop under = Windows 98 (phone, appointments, etc.) my HP5 laser printer prints the = entire page but it prints the last five characters on the next page = Anyone had this problem? Any ideas on how to fix the problem? It only = does this under Windows 98. When I print directly from the 200lx it = prints fine. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFD8B4.572C57E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When I try to print from the = application manager=20 from the desktop under Windows 98 (phone, appointments, etc.) = my HP5 laser printer prints the entire page but = it prints=20 the last five characters on the next page   Anyone had = this=20 problem?  Any ideas on how to fix the problem?  It only = does this=20 under Windows 98.  When I print directly from the 200lx it = prints=20 fine.   
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFD8B4.572C57E0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:42:37 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Re: 100LX success John, Been there--done that! Ah, the memories of running Juno on a 386! Two different machines! _Very_ frustrating with both! To do the Lynx Juno access from an HPLX you must have an ISP which offers text access to the Internet. I've been with three of them, and they all had Lynx--three different versions. The one that my current ISP, Telerama (a local Pittsburgh outfit), is running is the best. Lynx resides on their computer and after I log in to Telerama (using QuickLink II, a DOS communications program), I run it. Then I point it to webmail.juno.com and it finds the site for me. You must already have a Juno account, and the first time you log in you give the site your username and password to register with WebMail. After that you just give your username and password each time. When using it with Lynx, you navigate using TAB and/or the arrow keys instead of a mouse. When the desired item is highlighted, instead of clicking the mouse button you press ENTER. You can't see the pictures. It's a little slow, but quite useable. I do use it from other computers as well--it often beats waiting for Windows to load, and of course using it on the 100LX is sure a lot nicer than lugging a Windows laptop around! It is also handy to choose whether to access via WebMail and leave the messages there, or to get them via the dialup, in which case they will all be downloaded to the hard drive of that particular computer. When accessing WebMail, I do use both QuickLink and Telerama as well as Netscape or Internet Explorer in Windows, usually on our school ISDN connection. Most large cities still have at least one text ISP, and most large universities (and some smaller ones) still have it as well. I hope you can find one! Mark |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) On Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:29:10 -0400 John J Vanderstel writes: >Hi Mark, > >>But the absolute best is doing Juno e-mail, using the Lynx >>text browser on my ISP--just incredible! > >Trying to run Juno email on my HP200LX while running Windows 3.0 was a >project that I abandoned many moons ago. I found that even a 386 >running >Windows 3.0 sometimes took hours to load and display the graphic >advertising that the Juno software includes, not to mention that it >took >all of the processor power to display some of the ads making typing an >email all but impossible. > >If you can access your Juno email with the Lynx text browser, I'd be >very >interested in details on how you are doing it. :-) > >Cheers! > >John Vander Stel >Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 01:31:48 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: QuickLink warning I don't know if it's all that popular, but I've been talking about it in connection with Juno access from the LX. QuickLink just caused me a great deal of grief, from what I have figured out is a Y2K bug. It's the worst I've been bitten. I was transferring some files from one computer to another for upload to my ISP for download to the 100LX. I've used QuickLink for that for years, as well as logging in to my text-based ISP. It was not going well. I could transfer just one file before the computer (486SLC) would lock. It wouldn't even respond to CTRL-ALT-DEL. I could get it to transfer another only by writing a fresh copy of ql.exe onto the hard drive. It made for some very slow transfers! It occurred to me that it might be a Y2K problem, since QuickLink is old software. I reset the 486SLC clock to 1999 and no more problems! But then I made the mistake of trying to use the copy of QuickLink on my 100LX to download some files. It locked the 100LX, and I had to remove all the batteries to regain control of it. Thankfully I had backed up almost everything on my flash/modem card-- _almost_ everything! :-) But it still took awhile. I just got finished downloading a fresh copy of ql.exe onto the 100LX. It's working fine! :-) From now on, I'll use the built-in telecomm app to transfer files, and QuickLink only for e-mail! (I know I can reset the 100LX clock to 1999 and it should work, but... once bitten, twice shy!) Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Let the little children come to Me," Jesus said, "and don't keep them away. The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." -Matthew 19:14 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:16:00 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michelle Honey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michelle Honey Subject: Re: HPLX news server Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000617220655.00bac700@post1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 22:16 17/06/2000 +0800, you wrote: >At 10:01 AM 6/17/00 -0400, Larry Tachna wrote: > > >Could it be that not many users are aware of the existence of the HPLX news >server? Well I for one didn't Craig Honey ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:37:27 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: OT: Eudora For DOS? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Christopher wrote: > Your post did make me wonder: Was there ever a DOS version of > Eudora? Yes, there was one, back in 1990/91 AFAIR. It used a text based windowing system just like Minuet. > I use the Win 4.01 ver when I'm stuck outside DOSland. If you're looking for a DOS mail system, you could give Minuet a try. Minuet origins from umn.edu and should be available at ftp://boombox.micro.umn.edu/ but it's not there anymore. Minuet can now be found at ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/msdos/networking/ +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 07:06:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Smartmedia and use on 200LX, Omnibooks Comments: To: omnibook@elektro.cmhnet.org Message-Id: <20000618110631.HCSN9011.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.163.156¨> Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:06:35 +0000 First, apologies to those in both groups for having to get this message twice. In trying to make a decision about a digital camera purchase, I noticed that SmartMedia is now up to 64mb and I also seem to recall a gadget in a store that adapts smartmedia cards to PCMCIA. One of the attractions of smartmedia is the availability of the Flashpath adapter, which lets you access the smartmedia card via a floppy disk type adapter (and a software driver) to any PC with a standard 1.4mb drive. My question, is whether the flashpath adapter (and drivers) is versatile enough to let you use it on any PC as a high-volume (64mb) data media. This would be attractive if the drivers (available in Win 3.1, Win95/98, NT .. don't know about DOS) were conveniently carried on a spare floppy. Sort of as a kluge Zip/Superdisk floppy. Data could be as simple as first loading a driver from the floppy (unless this requires some ugly system configuration and rebooting) and then swapping for the flashpath. The 200LX could get the data via the PCMCIA adapter. Can anyone with a smartmedia/flashpath combo comment on how practical this would be? Potentially, I could then see a couple of smartmedia cards and the appropriate adapter as a simple and common media for all my machines in terms of moving large amounts of data with the least equipment. Thanks. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 07:22:02 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Printing Probelm Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How are you printing from the application manager from the Windows 98 desktop? Is this by the connectivity package which I don't have? Bob When I try to print from the application manager from the desktop under Windows 98 (phone, appointments, etc.) my HP5 laser printer prints the entire page but it prints the last five characters on the next page Anyone had this problem? Any ideas on how to fix the problem? It only does this under Windows 98. When I print directly from the 200lx it prints fine. Ken London wrote: > > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: quoted-printable -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:07:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Hard reboot (Was Re: QuickLink warning) Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:42:50 -0400 (EDT) 08h11m02s ago ... On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, Mark Shields wrote: > > But then I made the mistake of trying to use the copy of > QuickLink on my 100LX to download some files. It locked the > 100LX, and I had to remove all the batteries to regain control > of it. Hi Mark - Hope you never have another crash that bad, but if you do - DO NOT REMOVE THE BATTERIES! Try ÝCtrl¨ÝLeft Shift¨ÝOn¨, then answer "No" to the question about re-initializing C: For some reason, this hard reboot procedure seems to be relatively unknown. Removing the batteries should ONLY ever used if the hard reboot fails (Never seen it in 6 years...) HTH Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 10:48:13 -0400 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: DataPerfect In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was just reading about DataPerfect in the Palmtop Paper, but I can't find it anywhere to download. All the links referenced seem to be either dead of have just about everything BUT the application itself. Does anyone kknow where I can get it? The latest seems to be 2.6e. TIA. Jim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:12:51 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: HPLX news server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Saturday, 17.06.2000 at 14:16 GMT, Teo Soon Bock wrote: > At 10:01 AM 6/17/00 -0400, Larry Tachna wrote: > > > >>Looks interesting. > > > >almost zero traffic in the hp sections nothing to miss there > > Could it be that not many users are aware of the existence of the HPLX news > server? > > I subscribe to this list in digest mode, and from what I know we can see > the latest postings in the news server using a newsreader software. > > Perhaps the need for approval to be a user of the news server has put off > many potential users. In my view, this is not good for maintaining > interest in HPxxxLX. > I, for one, practically stopped using the news server after many problems accessing it, name changes, and the like. This discussion list works flawlessly and it already provides me with more information than I'm able to read on a daily basis, so there is no need for another. I've also been a longtime CompuServe member and participant in HPHAND forum but I have also practically stopped looking there. Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:56:05 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled Comments: To: David Sargeant Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Friday, 16.06.2000 at 10:11 GMT, David Sargeant wrote: > On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Franklin Eekhout wrote: > > > But I heard that a cd turned upside down makes a great light show. > > Almost so that I want a microwave to try it out... > > It works quite well -- it's particularly satisfying to do with all those > free AOL CDs you get in the mail. You don't have to turn it > upside-down, though; the microwave will make a fascinating lightning show > any way you stick it in the microwave. > I would assume that this procedure does to the AOL software what it deserves, but couldn't this damage your microwave? Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 10:38:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Wear and optimize MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Wear.exe is concerned about the physical quality of the read/write for the >> media, and is thus working at a lower level than optimize. > so, wear undoes what optimise has put to order?!? Wear arranges the data on the card in such a way as to evenly distribute the wear. Optimize aranges the data on the card in such a way as to minimize head movement. This does undo what wear has done. And there is no head so it accomplishes nothing. Since a few others have mentioned that the newer cards do the functions of wear.exe automatically, I would think that using optimize will do the same thing on any card that does that, and shorten the life of the card. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:47:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Backlight Alternatives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have followed the ups and downs of the backlighting project as have the rest of you. I have been testing a a few alternatives to the actual backlighting using tiny pen flashlights and assorted other illuminators. The problem with nearly all of them is that they illuminate a cirlce on the screen and seldom cast enough light to illuminate the keyboard. I have found two lights that do the trick however. One is Radio Shack's "Flourescent Pocket Flashlight" P/N 61-853. This is an "even" illuminator with more than enough output for any dim to completely dark situation. It is about the size of a pack of cigarettes and takes two AA batteries. There is a belt clip on the back that I have just run a neck strap through so the light hangs around my neck and illuminates whatever is in front of me. Great for camping, too. The second light I found is one that is actually made for the purpose of lighting up a PDA. It is the Mini PCL3 Ultimate Palmtop Computer Light by ASF Lightware Solutions. It brags about "even" lighting but in reality is produces a large circle of light. Still, it does work well and clips directly to the lid of the 200LX. To see a good photo of this item look at page 132 of the July 2000 issue of Laptop magazine (in stores now). This light costs $24 + s/h from ASF (www.readinglight.com) 1-800-771-3600. The search for light continues... Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA Email: bc@chisp.net website: www.chisp.net/~bc ...................DOS Were The Days........................... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:48:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: 100LX success Hi Mark, >Been there--done that! Ah, the memories of running Juno on >a 386! Two different machines! _Very_ frustrating with both! I was able to delete the ads off from a 386 running Windows 3.0 so typing was possible after the connection was complete, but not before waiting hours for the ads to display so Juno could be shut down safely for that minor operation. :-) After seeing your post, I went and checked the Juno web site and was surprised to find the web mail option. I guess it had been too long since I'd checked out that web site. I used to use Lynx to surf the web long ago, before I found the SlipKnot DOS web access software. I have no idea what I did with that program or my registration number for it. I need to be able to access my Juno email on my HPLX while traveling, so in this case, I suppose that I'd use Banana.com as my terminal program, but it would be tough to find an ISP who still offers Unix shell access... much less one that also offers local access numbers nationwide. :-/ My current ISP just doesn't offer that. >To do the Lynx Juno access from an HPLX you must have an ISP which >offers text access to the Internet. I've been with three of them, >and they all had Lynx--three different versions. The one that >my current ISP, Telerama (a local Pittsburgh outfit), is running >is the best... Did the other versions of Lynx prevent you from actually reading and replying to your email there? Is the difference in Lynx versions related to the use of cookies and/or frames? Which specific version number of Lynx is your Telerama ISP using? Thanks in advance for the info, Mark. Looks like I've found a new project to get started on. ;-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan BTW, If I were to elect to also get the same email while using the Juno access software and I were to actually delete a message after reading it at the web mail site, would I still get a copy of that deleted email when using the Juno access software, later? If so, that would be ideal. :-) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:53:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: HPLX news server Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000617220655.00bac700@post1.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>In my view, this is not good for maintaining >>interest in HPxxxLX. while that may be true I think the reason for that was to keep the spam and stuff down to a minimum, while my approval went quickly I might see where the list maintainer is losing interest because of the slow traffic ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:54:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: pcmcia slot extender Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200006171602.MAA02592@sphmraaa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Do you know of one for PCMCIA? have you looked through the digikey catalog? or allied or newark? while they might not have exactly what you want I thought I have seen all sorts of pcmcia hardware ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:59:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Printing Probelm Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert K. Meyer" To: Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 9:22 AM Subject: Re: Printing Probelm > How are you printing from the application manager from the Windows 98 I am just going into DOS from the start menu in Windows 98. I'm using the connectity pack. > desktop? Is this by the connectivity package which I don't have? > > Bob > > When I try to print from the application manager from the desktop under > Windows 98 (phone, appointments, etc.) my HP5 laser printer prints the > entire page but it prints the last five characters on the next page > Anyone had this problem? Any ideas on how to fix the problem? It only > does this under Windows 98. When I print directly from the 200lx it > prints fine. > > > > Ken London wrote: > > > > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > > Encoding: quoted-printable > > -- > +--------------------+-----------------+ > |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| > |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| > |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| > +--------------------+-----------------+ > | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | > +--------------------------------------+ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:22:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ray.simons@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ray Simons Subject: Re: pcmcia slot extender Comments: To: ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did you try: http://www.accurite.com/dslot.html ??? Ray On Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:54:05 -0400 Larry Tachna writes: > >>Do you know of one for PCMCIA? > > > have you looked through the digikey catalog? or allied or newark? > while > they might not have exactly what you want I thought I have seen all > sorts of > pcmcia hardware > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Ray Simons 6263 Rockland Road Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 Phone: 678-580-2540 Fax: 678-580-2520 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:55:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , despoix.pub@WANADOO.FR Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: More than one sender was specified. Second and following senders discarded. From: fridiric Despoix Subject: Fwd: WinCE: 82240B driver? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- begin of forwarded message --- Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:07:58 -0400 To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU From: despoix.pub@wanadoo.fr (fridiric Despoix) Subscriber Comments: I am looking for the printer driver of the HP82240B for Windows CE H/PC. --- end of forwarded message --- * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:09:51 -0400 Reply-To: b.newins@worldnet.att.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: B Newins Subject: Re: Backlight Alternatives Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, Yes, I just saw that ad yesterday. The one for the Mini PCL3 light. Funny, the ad was talking about PDA's like the Palm, but the picture showed it clipped onto a 200LX. It uses 3AA's so it runs at a little higher voltage. Thanks for the review. =Bob= >Bob Christopher wrote: >The second light I found is one that is actually made for the >purpose of lighting up a PDA. It is the Mini PCL3 Ultimate Palmtop >Computer Light by ASF Lightware Solutions. It brags about "even" > lighting but in reality is produces a large circle of light. Still, > it does work well and clips directly to the lid of the 200LX. To > see a good photo of this item look at page 132 of the July 2000 > issue of Laptop magazine (in stores now). This light costs $24 > + s/h from ASF (www.readinglight.com) 1-800-771-3600. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:23:05 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: HPLX news server In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:53 PM 6/18/00 -0400, Larry Tachna wrote: > >>>In my view, this is not good for maintaining >>>interest in HPxxxLX. > >while that may be true I think the reason for that was to keep the spam and >stuff down to a minimum, while my approval went quickly I might see where >the list maintainer is losing interest because of the slow traffic If that is so, then the person responsible for maintaining the HPLX news server should offer to step down and pass on the job to someone who is prepared to put in some time to maintain it. Or have someone to assist him. IMHO it is not necessary to require registration to the HPLX news server as it is a standalone news server by itself, and the postings in it are not mirrored to the mainstream newsgroup servers. So the chances of spam and unrelated postings in the HPLX news server should be minimal. Furthermore, the use of newsreader software enables the users to select only those messages that interest him/her based on the subject headings. Filters can also be set to ignore spams etc. I hope that the powers that be do something fast to keep up interest in HPLX. And lest we forget, it is now 7 days since I applied to join the HPLX news server, and still awaiting approval. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 20:50:43 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: PCMCIA Disks, Flash Disk Protectors and Name Brand Sandisks are Available. Comments: To: smoore@EFFECTNET.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott; May I suggest putting these announcements in the form of a list, rather than an unformatted paragraph? It would make things much easier to read and it would communicate more clearly what you have available. Thanks. Richard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:11:47 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: PCMCIA Disks, Flash Disk Protectors and Name Brand Sandisks etc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >May I suggest putting these announcements in the form of a list, rather >than an unformatted paragraph? It would make things much easier to read >and it would communicate more clearly what you have available. > Or put the sales info into a personal web page, and just point us to the URL. It will be like having a shop opened 24 hours a day, and may even attract customers from users of notebook computers and other palmtop formats, digital cameras, MP3 players, etc. I have seen Scott's adverts many times, having read the list archives backwards to Sept 99, and marvel at his never-ending supply of CF cards. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:16:05 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , dcollins@SOFTCOM.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Donald Collins Subject: Re: HPLX news server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I stopped using the HPLX news server because it was down so often. I couldn't get a timely post/reply. It may be more stable now but I haven't bothered to find out. To bad, it could be a great resource. I like the ability to subscribe to specific topics. (i.e. programming) Don. --------- Original Message ------------- >Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 10:01:16 -0400 >From: Larry Tachna >Subject: Re: HPLX news server > >>>Looks interesting. > >almost zero traffic in the hp sections nothing to miss there ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 01:20:40 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Cat-Distracted Technical Folks, Anonymous Subject: Interesting HP200LX cable found today. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At a computer stall at a swap meet today, I traded a guy out of an HP cable - the HP cable end's same as the HP connectivity cable; The other end's an RJ45 connector (same as used for Ethernet 10BaseT connectors, this's a wider larger version of a RJ11 standard telephone cable.) Anyone know what this cable's for? It looks like maybe it's for an early Mobidem (Cell Modem?) connection, at a guess? Won't be hard for me to clone it if it's a useful cable. Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:47:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: DataPerfect MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I was just reading about DataPerfect in the Palmtop Paper, but I can't find > it anywhere to download. I have Dataperfect on my palmtop. I downloaded it from Compuserve. If you can't find it elsewhere I can E-mail a copy to you. I also downloaded a copy of the manual that had been converted to a DataPerfect database. It took a bit of playing around to figure out how to navigate, but I can use the program just fine for my purposes now. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:50:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: HPLX news server Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20000619095409.00bada20@post1.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>If that is so, then the person responsible for maintaining the HPLX news >>server should offer to step down and pass on the job to someone who is >>prepared to put in some time to maintain it. Or have someone to >>assist him. is that you i hear voluntering?? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:52:23 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge" Subject: Re: Interesting HP200LX cable found today. Comments: To: Mark Willis In-Reply-To: <394DD7D8.17B68586@foxinternet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mark, > end's an RJ45 connector (same as used for Ethernet 10BaseT connectors, > this's a wider larger version of a RJ11 standard telephone cable.) > this may not be relevant but some years ago it was possible to buy modular rs232 cabling. This consisted of a cable with RJ12 plugs on each end and 25 way or 9 way D connectors (available in either male or female form) in a plastic shroud with a RJ12 socket moulded in the back. you could plug together whatever combination of bits you needed to acheive the cable you wanted (also some kit used RJ12 connections for serial data - E.G. the DEC and Emulex range of LAT/TCPIP compatible terminal servers). This style of cabling used to be quite popular on some DEC and IBM mini/mainframe stuff. The nice thing about the moulded D connectors used with this system was that the rj12 socket fitted had 2 keyways in it so that you could plug the cable in either way around to acheive crossed or uncrossed cables. I think I still have a couple of them kicking around here somewhere..... checking a parts catalogue I see that this system is still available but these days it uses RJ45 connectors (the connectors look simillar but I seem to remember the rj12 keyway was offset to one side and the rj45 isnt).... Best regards, Condor _\\|//_ ( O-O ) -------------------------o00--(_)--00o--------------------------------------+ Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge Software/Hardware Engineering Supervisor, | Middle East and North Africa region | | Schlumberger Geco-Prakla, Gatwick, UK | Voice : Ý44¨ (0) 1293 55 6257 | Fax : Ý44¨ (0) 1293 55 6470 | Office: condor@slb.com | Home : condor@mistral.co.uk | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ I understand that U.S. trade regulations prohibit certain transfers of U.S. technology technical data or software to U.S. embargoed states. I am aware of Schlumberger's Trade Control Policy and the OFS Export Administration procedures with respect to U.S. embargoed states and confirm that this transmission does not cause a prohibited transfer of technology technical data or software ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:14:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ray.simons@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ray Simons Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 Comments: To: ltachna@ROYALZENITH.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DataPerfect can be downloaded and a list and help found at: http://surf.to/dataperfect Ray Ray Simons 6263 Rockland Road Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 Phone: 678-580-2540 Fax: 678-580-2520 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:49:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Interesting HP200LX cable found today. Comments: To: Mark Willis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:21:53 -0400 (EDT) 05h03m59s ago ... On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Mark Willis wrote: > At a computer stall at a swap meet today, I traded a guy out of an HP > cable - the HP cable end's same as the HP connectivity cable; The = other > end's an RJ45 connector (same as used for Ethernet 10BaseT connectors, > this's a wider larger version of a RJ11 standard telephone cable.) The late, great EduCALC used to sell these. I think they were meant to be a universal cable. There are adapters to convert RJ45 (and RJ11) to various D-Sub connectors (Digi-Key sells 'em - also RS has one or 2 types). The RJxx jack has short wires with snap-in pins (or sockets) to fit the D-Sub, so you can make your own custom arrangement. One cable - adapters for null-modem, 9-pin mouse or modem, 25-pin modem, 25 pin serial printer etc. Was gonna get one, but EduCALC sadly went belly-up 8-< BTW EduCALC also had a double-ended cable to link 2 palmtops. Later, Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:33:08 -0400 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 Comments: To: ray.simons@JUNO.COM In-Reply-To: <20000619.091426.-417041.0.ray.simons@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, so you say, but it wasn't there yesterday, so I just checked again and it isn't there today! -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Ray Simons Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 12:14 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 DataPerfect can be downloaded and a list and help found at: http://surf.to/dataperfect Ray Ray Simons 6263 Rockland Road Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 Phone: 678-580-2540 Fax: 678-580-2520 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:34:43 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: HPLX news server In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:50 AM 6/19/00 -0400, Larry Tachna wrote: > >>>If that is so, then the person responsible for maintaining the HPLX news >>>server should offer to step down and pass on the job to someone who is >>>prepared to put in some time to maintain it. Or have someone to >>>assist him. > >is that you i hear voluntering?? > All I want is to get myself registered in the HPLX news server so that I can start reading the "HPLX Mailing List" messages there without having to wait for the Digest mode to arrive, or having to switch to Immediate Mail mode. I do not know who is the person maintaining the HPLX news server, but if he saw the noise that I am making here, he will not welcome me to help him out. You mean there is such a dearth of volunteers now? In the old days, everybody wants to be a Sysop of a bulletin board. If I had my way, I will make registration on the HPLX news server an automatic process, and just monitor the messages there, and implement a system of "3 strikes and you are out" for the blatant spammers. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:04:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Flash and Smart Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I made my digital camera decision the main criteria was that it have Flash and not smartmedia. First, Flash has been around longer and I know how good the technology is. Smartmedia also uses flash memory but there are various grades of flash memory. My camera came with a 32 meg Sandisk card. Another reason is that I use Flash cards for my LX and that means if I ever need a spare for either one, I'll borrow it from the other. Even though my camera came with a built in USB and serial connector and lots of software, I just ignored all that. Instead I got a Sandisk card reader/writer that plugs into the USB port (there are parellel models too) and I can use it both for the camera and the LX. No more cables needed. I just pop the Compact flash out of my camera or LX and pop it in the reader and it becomes drive G on my desktop and I just use windows explorer to copy the jpg files from the flash card. I already have my own imaging software. I never bothered to install the camera software. My laptop's PCMCIA slot read's the camera's card just fine so I can do this easily on the road and I have imaging software on the laptop as well. Even the LX can read and copy the pictures to itself, although I don't have any reason to do that. I like the flexibility of Flash cards. They're the standard. Everything understands them and works with them. Barry >>>>In trying to make a decision about a digital camera purchase, I noticed that SmartMedia is now up to 64mb and I also seem to recall a gadget in a store that adapts smartmedia cards to PCMCIA.<<<< > >>>>One of the attractions of smartmedia is the availability of the Flashpath adapter, which lets you access the smartmedia card via a floppy disk type adapter (and a software driver) to any PC with a standard 1.4mb drive.<<<< > >>>>My question, is whether the flashpath adapter (and drivers) is versatile enough to let you use it on any PC as a high-volume (64mb) data media. This would be attractive if the drivers (available in Win 3.1, Win95/98, NT .. don't know about DOS) were conveniently carried on a spare floppy. Sort of as a kluge Zip/Superdisk floppy.<<<< ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:14:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: News server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>IMHO it is not necessary to require registration to the HPLX news server as it is a standalone news server by itself, and the postings in it are not mirrored to the mainstream newsgroup servers. So the chances of spam and unrelated postings in the HPLX news server should be minimal.<<<< I'm a little cofused. Is this the news server you're talking about? Or is it something else? I get the HPLX mailing list in digest form. I did notice the other day that there was some mention of an HPLX programmers newslist. I was interrupted and forgot about it till I read this message today. Does anyone have any information about that? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:17:35 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: Found was RE: DataPerfect db1 Comments: To: "jhenry@comcastwork.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain In the same website, click on "Dataperfect users click here" then on the next page click on "Download DP" then on the next page select the file that you want. So in short, the files are there, don't abort. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: James Henry ÝSMTP:jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM¨ > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 3:33 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 > > Well, so you say, but it wasn't there yesterday, so I just checked again > and > it isn't there today! > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Ray Simons > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 12:14 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 > > > DataPerfect can be downloaded and a list and help found at: > > http://surf.to/dataperfect > > Ray > > > Ray Simons > 6263 Rockland Road > Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 > Phone: 678-580-2540 > Fax: 678-580-2520 > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:21:08 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 Comments: To: "jhenry@comcastwork.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Well maybe not - I too could not follow the links to the very last spot. Sorry !! However I have the files available if someone is interested. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: James Henry ÝSMTP:jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM¨ > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 3:33 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 > > Well, so you say, but it wasn't there yesterday, so I just checked again > and > it isn't there today! > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Ray Simons > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 12:14 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 > > > DataPerfect can be downloaded and a list and help found at: > > http://surf.to/dataperfect > > Ray > > > Ray Simons > 6263 Rockland Road > Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 > Phone: 678-580-2540 > Fax: 678-580-2520 > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:23:26 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: Re: PCMCIA Disks, Flash Disk Protectors and Name Brand Sandisks a re Available. Comments: To: "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Well this is the one mailing list where I don't really mind advertisements, since most of what we're after is not easy to come by. But a link to a site containing more complete info (and also free downloads of course) would be nice. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac) ÝSMTP:rsmith@ENOL.COM¨ > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 4:51 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: PCMCIA Disks, Flash Disk Protectors and Name Brand > Sandisks are Available. > > Scott; > > May I suggest putting these announcements in the form of a list, rather > than an unformatted paragraph? It would make things much easier to read > and it would communicate more clearly what you have available. Thanks. > > Richard > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:34:21 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: News server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii David Sargeant (of the backlighting project) also hosts a news server for HPLX related stuff. I believe the intent was to minimize the bandwidth on the mailing list, particularly for esoteric technical topics, but perhaps this is less of a problem now than it used to be. You can probably get more information from his website at -> http://www.hplx.net/ Or maybe some existing members can give more detail. I never really participated in the news server because my email traffic is already a mess. Besides ... it usually turns out that the best little nuggets of information are buried in random notes in otherwise dense off-topic threads on this list. - Longden Barry on 06/19/2000 07:14:28 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Barry To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: News server >>>>IMHO it is not necessary to require registration to the HPLX news server as it is a standalone news server by itself, and the postings in it are not mirrored to the mainstream newsgroup servers. So the chances of spam and unrelated postings in the HPLX news server should be minimal.<<<< I'm a little cofused. Is this the news server you're talking about? Or is it something else? I get the HPLX mailing list in digest form. I did notice the other day that there was some mention of an HPLX programmers newslist. I was interrupted and forgot about it till I read this message today. Does anyone have any information about that? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:19:29 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Backlighting cancelled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Somebody probably thought of this already, but I'll mention it anyway. :-) If there is enough room around the edges of the glass screen panel, it may be possible to install 2 or more tiny LEDs so that they shine into the edges of the glass. With the transflective backing in place, I imagine this would cause the screen to act like a prism, hopefully diffusing enough of the light across the surface to make the screen readable in dim light or dark. This wouldn't be as bright as the original backlighting idea, but it might be a suitable alternative. Thoughts? Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:51:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm not really debating the technical merits of compact flash vs smart-media. I agree that CF is better in many regards. My interest was whether it's feasible to be able to transfer data between computers (200LX, omnibook, digital camera, and desktops) with minimal gear (smart-media card, PCMCIA adapter, floppy adapter, floppy disk with driver software). If this worked, it would also give me an easy (?) means of transferring (via floppy adapter and smart-media card) up to 64mb of data between desktops at home and work and at friends'/relatives' homes. Thru "hook and crook", I can already do the same now using onboard LX memory, CF/PCMCIA flash and serial/parallel cables. I'm just looking for an easier way. I agree that a CF card reader is a good solution for moving data to a desktop, but then you're restricted to only one desktop (unless you want to pack the card reader with you). And sometimes I don't want to pack my laptop ... so carrying the data on a pseudo-floppy would be a nice alternative (barring compatibility issues) if I already know there's a computer at the destination. - Longden Barry on 06/19/2000 07:04:13 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Barry To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Flash and Smart Media When I made my digital camera decision the main criteria was that it have Flash and not smartmedia. First, Flash has been around longer and I know how good the technology is. Smartmedia also uses flash memory but there are various grades of flash memory. My camera came with a 32 meg Sandisk card. Another reason is that I use Flash cards for my LX and that means if I ever need a spare for either one, I'll borrow it from the other. Even though my camera came with a built in USB and serial connector and lots of software, I just ignored all that. Instead I got a Sandisk card reader/writer that plugs into the USB port (there are parellel models too) and I can use it both for the camera and the LX. No more cables needed. I just pop the Compact flash out of my camera or LX and pop it in the reader and it becomes drive G on my desktop and I just use windows explorer to copy the jpg files from the flash card. I already have my own imaging software. I never bothered to install the camera software. My laptop's PCMCIA slot read's the camera's card just fine so I can do this easily on the road and I have imaging software on the laptop as well. Even the LX can read and copy the pictures to itself, although I don't have any reason to do that. I like the flexibility of Flash cards. They're the standard. Everything understands them and works with them. Barry >>>>My question, is whether the flashpath adapter (and drivers) is versatile enough to let you use it on any PC as a high-volume (64mb) data media. Sort of as a kluge Zip/Superdisk floppy.<<<< ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:05:33 -0400 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 Comments: To: Klopper Donald In-Reply-To: <81612366A978D311A8E80008C728C5819EE08A@dwaf-pta02-nt.pwv.gov.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Would you be so kind as to file attach them to me? TIA. ---- James Henry - Supervisor, Field Systems Engineering Comcast Commercial Online 215-655-8186 pager: 888-649-6254 cell: 215-768-0595 jhenry@comcastwork.com www.comcastwork.com -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Klopper Donald Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 10:21 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 Well maybe not - I too could not follow the links to the very last spot. Sorry !! However I have the files available if someone is interested. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: James Henry ÝSMTP:jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM¨ > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 3:33 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 > > Well, so you say, but it wasn't there yesterday, so I just checked again > and > it isn't there today! > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Ray Simons > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 12:14 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 > > > DataPerfect can be downloaded and a list and help found at: > > http://surf.to/dataperfect > > Ray > > > Ray Simons > 6263 Rockland Road > Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 > Phone: 678-580-2540 > Fax: 678-580-2520 > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:06:17 -0400 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: Re: Found was RE: DataPerfect db1 Comments: To: Klopper Donald In-Reply-To: <81612366A978D311A8E80008C728C5819EE089@dwaf-pta02-nt.pwv.gov.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well as you know now....they aren't! -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Klopper Donald Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 10:18 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Found was RE: DataPerfect db1 In the same website, click on "Dataperfect users click here" then on the next page click on "Download DP" then on the next page select the file that you want. So in short, the files are there, don't abort. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: James Henry ÝSMTP:jhenry@COMCASTWORK.COM¨ > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 3:33 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 > > Well, so you say, but it wasn't there yesterday, so I just checked again > and > it isn't there today! > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Ray Simons > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 12:14 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 > > > DataPerfect can be downloaded and a list and help found at: > > http://surf.to/dataperfect > > Ray > > > Ray Simons > 6263 Rockland Road > Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 > Phone: 678-580-2540 > Fax: 678-580-2520 > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:19:51 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@juno.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: DataPerfect Comments: To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Steve What is the diff between DATAPERFECT and the LX DATABASE? Why would yu prefer it? TIA yor pal al. > > I was just reading about DataPerfect in the Palmtop > Paper, but I can't find > > it anywhere to download. > > I have Dataperfect on my palmtop. I downloaded it from > Compuserve. If you > can't find it elsewhere I can E-mail a copy to you. I > also downloaded a copy > of the manual that had been converted to a DataPerfect > database. It took a > bit of playing around to figure out how to navigate, but > I can use the program > just fine for my purposes now. > > Steve Carder > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:45:27 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Lynx/Juno I've posted about my experiences using Lynx on a text-based ISP to access Juno. Here's what I could find out about Lynx from looking in the help files on Telerama here in Pittsburgh: The version of Lynx that they use is 2.8.3. It is available for Unix, VMS, Windows 95 and 98. It is NOT available for DOS (so not on the HPLX), Windows 3.1, 3.11, or OS/2. They want beta testers. Their e-mail is lynx-dev@sig.net. I tried the link www.trill-home.com for more information, but as of last night it didn't work. Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Let the little children come to Me," Jesus said, "and don't keep them away. The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." -Matthew 19:14 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:45:27 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: double speed disadvantages? I've been working with my first, crippled, 100LX and am very pleased with it despite its screen problem. I'm facing a decision as to getting it fixed, getting a 200LX, how much RAM, double speed, etc. (FWIW, the screen intermittently gets stripes, turns black, becomes so light it's illegible, or has moving patterns of various sorts. Various things have returned it to its normal state--turning the unit off and on, switching from battery power to AC, using alkalines instead of NiCd's, etc., but now it seems to have reached the end of its rope. It is still functioning despite the screen nonsense, and so long as you can accurately guess where you are, will do anything you ask it.) I know double speed will take a little more current from the batteries, and I've heard it might prevent the double PCMCIA adapter from working. Are there any other disadvantages to double speed--software that won't work, decreased reliability, etc.? I've not really been displeased with the speed of this 100LX, but after working with many computers all these years, know that extra speed often comes in handy. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Let the little children come to Me," Jesus said, "and don't keep them away. The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." -Matthew 19:14 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:27:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Text-based surfing of Juno etc. (Was:Re: 100LX success) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I need to be able to access my Juno email on my HPLX while traveling, so > in this case, I suppose that I'd use Banana.com as my terminal program, > but it would be tough to find an ISP who still offers Unix shell > access... much less one that also offers local access numbers nationwide. > You can use any national-access ISP, and go to: http://www.digitalpaths.net/wince/pie10.htm ...and from there enter your target URL. Digital Paths will strip out the images, applets etc. and present you with text only. I haven't tried it with Juno, but I assume it would work the way you want. Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:58:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On some 200LXs (mine included), the double-speed upgrade renders the screen blurred and almost unreadable (tho the severity varies from unit to unit) until the speed driver is loaded. The major impact here is the boot-setup menu (Esc-On). Other than that, the Thaddeus/Times2Tech upgrades include utilities to deal with occasional serial port and game speed incompatibilities (I've experienced none myself). Battery hit was the most noticeable thing, tho a welcome trade (for me) in exchange for faster displays. - Longden Mark Shields on 06/19/2000 08:45:27 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Mark Shields To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: double speed disadvantages? I know double speed will take a little more current from the batteries, and I've heard it might prevent the double PCMCIA adapter from working. Are there any other disadvantages to double speed--software that won't work, decreased reliability, etc.? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:22:37 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: OT: Rex-Pro on closeout in UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Jez Cunningham wrote: > BT (British Telecom) shops are selling off their Rex-Pro credit-card-siz= e > organizers (the -Pro has edit functionality, 512k memory...) with = docking > station for UKP29.99 !! > > I got the last one (ex-display) in Bath. Thanks! I got the last one in Oxford Street, London. It wasn't ex-display. Noticed that Dixons are selling them for UKP 39.99. ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:10:26 +0000 Reply-To: melancon@microgear.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Melancon Subject: Re: DataPerfect In-Reply-To: <20000619151951.12966.qmail@web116.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The built in LX database gets pretty slow in sorts and finds when the number of records gets larger. Dataperfect is FAST in finding a particular record and doesn't slow even in very large files. For simple things like you can handle in the LX database Dataperfect is also very easy to use. To use it for building applications there is a lot you need to learn. There is a good mailing list for help. Mike > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:19:51 -0700 > From: hobchi > Subject: Re: DataPerfect > > Steve > What is the diff between DATAPERFECT and the LX DATABASE? > Why would yu prefer it? > TIA > yor pal al. > Best Regards, Mike Melancon ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:19:15 +0000 Reply-To: melancon@microgear.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Melancon Subject: (Fwd) Re: DataPerfect db1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The link appears to be broken. The dataperfect page I use is at http://www.mailinglist.nu/dataperfect/ The 2.6e page is http://www.mailinglist.nu/dataperfect/dp26e.php3 The zip file for 2.6e is at ftp://ftp.tjalsma.nl/pub/dp26e.zip If you want to use the program you can get lots of help by joining the mailing list. Mike > Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:33:08 -0400 > From: James Henry > Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 > > Well, so you say, but it wasn't there yesterday, so I just checked again and > it isn't there today! > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Ray Simons > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 12:14 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: DataPerfect db1 > > > DataPerfect can be downloaded and a list and help found at: > > http://surf.to/dataperfect > > Ray Best Regards, Mike Melancon ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:15:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Found was RE: DataPerfect db1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James Henry wrote: > > Well as you know now....they aren't! > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Klopper Donald > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 10:18 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Found was RE: DataPerfect db1 > > In the same website, click on "Dataperfect users click here" then on the ... Well, actually they are, but the route is somewhat circuitous. I just did this (at 1300EST, 1700UTC on 19 June) so it does work as of then: http://www.mailinglist.nu/dataperfect/dp26e.php3 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:17:09 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: HPLX news server Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Teo, The list maintaince person is using all him FREE time on the backlighting project at the moment. So try to have a little more patience. I am sure your request will get done sometime in the future. =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:32:05 +0100 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: Hard reboot (Was Re: QuickLink warning) Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peniel Romanelli wrote: > Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:42:50 -0400 (EDT) > > 08h11m02s ago ... > On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, Mark Shields wrote: > > > > > But then I made the mistake of trying to use the copy of > > QuickLink on my 100LX to download some files. It locked the > > 100LX, and I had to remove all the batteries to regain control > > of it. > > Hi Mark - > > Hope you never have another crash that bad, but if you do - DO NOT > REMOVE THE BATTERIES! Try ÝCtrl¨ÝLeft Shift¨ÝOn¨, then answer "No" to > the question about re-initializing C: For some reason, this hard > reboot procedure seems to be relatively unknown. Removing the > batteries should ONLY ever used if the hard reboot fails (Never seen it > in 6 years...) > > HTH > > Peniel > ------------ > Hi Peniel, I for one sure know about Ctrl L.Shift On; I've had to use it often in the three years since I became a 200LX user. Also, in that time, it failed to work twice and I had to remove the batteries. The last occasion was after I got the 32mb doublespeed upgrade from Thaddeus in February this year. It worked for a while until I had to do a hard reset. Then the F drive became the C drive with only 1.3mb, and the F drive disappeared together with the 32mb:-( My Super Carousel initiated but only let me into The App. Mgr. and work area 2 (DOS) - probably not enough memory for the rest. I used Norton Commander (v.1.0) to copy over SPD31, RDT2T, RDSWAP and TREMM from the A: drive and started from scratch, got into trouble again - it's all like a distant nightmare now- did a hard reset which didn't work, and had to remove the batteries :-((. Next, on the advice of Jon Miller of Thaddeus, I started from scratch again, this time without TREMM until the 32mb was loaded, ran INSTEMM at that point, AFAIR, and things worked. Everything is now fine and I have a 6mb SC swapfile :-) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:36:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Wear and optimize MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > Optimize aranges the data on the card in such > a way as to minimize head movement. > ... And there is no head so it accomplishes nothing. Optimize is still useful for 1, maybe 2, reasons. The first is because some programs need to allocate a large non-fragmented file. Examples include TREMM and SecureDevice. The easiest was to do this is to first run Optimize which will unfragment all your files and move them to the front of the disk thus leaving as large a space as possible for the next program to build its file(s). The second reason is hypothetical and may not exist or matter. Even if a fragmented file doesn't cause head positioning delays on a ram disk it may require some additional DOS code to find all the pieces. Instead of reading all the sectors in sequence I could see where additional reference to the FAT or directory might be necessary when dealing with a file that is in multiple pieces scattered all over the disk. For this reason I run Optimize occasionally on my RAM disk. Because I only use Flash ram for backup I don't have any need to optimize there. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:56:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, I have had my double speed, sixty four megabyte 200LX for some months now. As Longden Loo said, "Battery hit was the most noticeable thing, tho a welcome trade (for me) in exchange for faster displays." This I find to be true. I should have purchased one of these upgraded models years ago. I've always been one who likes to know the ins and outs of any computer that I own. So I took the batteries out of it and started over. I just had to try it . Needless to say, I had to set the machine up again with the drivers and initialize the 64mb ram drive. This was as easy as initializing the drivers in the sequence as per the instructions Thaddeus provides. I was really surprised at how easy it is to bring the 200LX back to full functionality. After doing it once I feel very comfortable using this machine. I have the drivers backed up on a CF card just in case I crash. This hasn't happened in all the months of intense use I have thrown at it. The speed is very noticeable. Just after I got it in my hands, I pulled up various applications on my old 200LX 4mb stock palmtop and on the new DS/64mb unit. I was very please; indeed, I was surprised. I would definitely recommend purchasing one of these machines. Thaddeus stands behind their product and is very helpful. William E. Blankenship ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:55:25 +0100 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Shields wrote: > I've been working with my first, crippled, 100LX and am very > pleased with it despite its screen problem. I'm facing a > decision as to getting it fixed, getting a 200LX, how much RAM, > double speed, etc. (FWIW, the screen intermittently gets > stripes, turns black, becomes so light it's illegible, > or has moving patterns of various sorts. Various things > have returned it to its normal state--turning the unit off and > on, switching from battery power to AC, using alkalines > instead of NiCd's, etc., but now it seems to have reached > the end of its rope. It is still functioning despite the > screen nonsense, and so long as you can accurately guess > where you are, will do anything you ask it.) > > I know double speed will take a little more current from the > batteries, and I've heard it might prevent the double PCMCIA > adapter from working. > > Are there any other disadvantages to double speed--software > that won't work, decreased reliability, etc.? > > I've not really been displeased with the speed of this 100LX, > but after working with many computers all these years, know > that extra speed often comes in handy. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > Mark Shields Mark, I've just posted a reply to your "hard reset... batteries" posting following Peniel. I mentioned my problem - now fixed- with the 32mb DS upgrade. I haven't noticed any downside. Everything works; Supercalc 5.5, DataEase 2.5, Collins 100 and Collins French Dictionaries. SC7 just flies. I don't know about the power drain because I changed my Flash card around the same time for a 96mb compact. I think I'm getting more out of the batteries, but I'm not sure why. Richard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:58:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: DataPerfect MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > What is the diff between DATAPERFECT and the LX DATABASE? > Why would yu prefer it? Actually, I use both. The built-in database is easier to use for small collections of data. For example, I have a database of my pregnant patients that has around 30 entries at a time. I use DataPerfect for larger collections of data. I have almost 2000 books in my personal library. DataPerfect works well to organize all of them. It will also do math functions with the data entries, so you could do a customer database with billing features in DataPerfect. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:33:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Smartmedia and use on 200LX, Omnibooks Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >In trying to make a decision about a digital camera purchase, I >noticed that SmartMedia is now up to 64mb and I also seem to recall >a gadget in a store that adapts smartmedia cards to PCMCIA. > >One of the attractions of smartmedia is the availability of the >Flashpath adapter, which lets you access the smartmedia card via a >floppy disk type adapter (and a software driver) to any PC with a >standard 1.4mb drive. > >My question, is whether the flashpath adapter (and drivers) is >versatile enough to let you use it on any PC as a high-volume (64mb) >data media. This would be attractive if the drivers (available in >Win 3.1, Win95/98, NT .. don't know about DOS) were conveniently >carried on a spare floppy. When we purchased our 2.1 Megapixel Olympus a few months ago, the sales droid convinced us to buy FlashPath - an adapter that receives the Smart Media card and goes in the floppy drive, allowing you to read the Smart Media at a VERY **slow** speed (20-30 KB/sec). Recently I thought to myself, "They have PCMCIA adapters for everything else, how about Smart Media cards?" So I looked to my online supplier of choice at http://www.pcconnection.com and found and ordered one. IT IS *GREAT*! Last night I transferred 15 images to my Mac Powerbook in less time than ONE normally takes with the Flashpath. It cost me less than $50 including next-day shipping. Let me note that my default photo mode on the Olympus produces 1600 X 1200 pixel JPEG files of about 450 KB, which, as Linda Worthington will testify, is - practically speaking - VERY high resolution. >Can anyone with a smartmedia/flashpath combo comment on how practical this >would be? As my Mom (now 92) used to say, "Slow as molasses going uphill in January." I didn't look into using the FlashPath with my Accurite travel floppy because I don't think of my 200LX as an "Image Machine", so I can't answer as to whether they provide DOS software (I'm at work, on call, and the software is at home). The software they DO provide is on CD-ROM, and I *know* there is software for Mac and W-95/8 on there. Also, my wife found and purchased software to read FlashPath on her Amiga. >Potentially, I could then see a couple of smartmedia cards and the >appropriate adapter as a simple and common media for all my machines >in terms of moving large amounts of data with the least equipment. To my mind, the only reason to get the FlashPath is to read Smart Media on a machine without a PCMCIA slot. And since it is 20 or more times SLOWER than reading the Smart Media *IN* a PCMCIA slot with the PC card adapter, I would seriously consider getting a PCMCIA reader for any desktop that lacked it, rather than using the FlashPath. The other disadvantage of FlashPath is that the files that end up on the computer are "FlashPath documents", although they retain the .JPG suffix. On the Mac this means that double-clicking on the "FlashPath Document" starts up the FlashPath software, not a graphics display program, whereas .JPG files simply COPIED to the computer appear as "belonging to" the defined default picture viewer program, and a double-click displays them. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book. - Marcus Tullius Cicero ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:33:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Data perfect MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I was just reading about DataPerfect in the Palmtop Paper, but I can't find > it anywhere to download. Data perfect and a lot of tools for it can be downloaded at: http://www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/download.html Look for DPPROG.ZIP for the main files. It's also on the Thaddeus CD, which is well worth having in any case. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:04:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <001101bfd9f7$40963ac0$69fc36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >When I made my digital camera decision the main criteria was that it >have Flash and not smartmedia. First, Flash has been around longer >and I know how good the technology is. Smartmedia also uses flash >memory but there are various grades of flash memory. My camera came >with a 32 meg Sandisk card. > >Another reason is that I use Flash cards for my LX and that means if >I ever need a spare for either one, I'll borrow it from the other. > >Even though my camera came with a built in USB and serial connector >and lots of software, I just ignored all that. Instead I got a >Sandisk card reader/writer that plugs into the USB port (there are >parellel models too) and I can use it both for the camera and the >LX. No more cables needed. I just pop the Compact flash out of my >camera or LX and pop it in the reader and it becomes drive G on my >desktop and I just use windows explorer to copy the jpg files from >the flash card. I already have my own imaging software. I never >bothered to install the camera software. > >My laptop's PCMCIA slot read's the camera's card just fine so I can >do this easily on the road and I have imaging software on the laptop >as well. Even the LX can read and copy the pictures to itself, >although I don't have any reason to do that. > >I like the flexibility of Flash cards. They're the standard. >Everything understands them and works with them. I hate quoting nearly the whole message, but, point by point, there is almost NO distinction here between the use of a Compact Flash card in a PCMCIA compatible adapter and a Smart Media card in a PCMCIA compatible adapter. I just bought the latter (for about $50 including shipping) to read my Olympus digital camera's 32MB Smart Media card and it is Plug and Play - appears as a ATA drive on both Windows and Mac desktops, and files copy a a HIGH speed. I think the user would scarcely be able to tell which was in the card slot. Of course, I did not know until a week ago that they (Smart Media PCMCIA adapters) existed; perhaps you didn't either. My **STRONG** recommendation is to choose your digital camera based on camera features OTHER THAN whether it uses Compact Flash or Smart Media cards. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book. - Marcus Tullius Cicero ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:49:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 18 Jun 2000 to 19 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-218) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>The second reason is hypothetical and may not exist or matter. Even if a fragmented file doesn't cause head positioning delays on a ram disk it may require some additional DOS code to find all the pieces. Instead of reading all the sectors in sequence I could see where additional reference to the FAT or directory might be necessary when dealing with a file that is in multiple pieces scattered all over the disk. For this reason I run Optimize occasionally on my RAM disk. Because I only use Flash ram for backup I don't have any need to optimize there.<<< Your first reason makes sense but I suspect that's a pretty rare thing to have to do. For your second reason, the amount of code needed in the case of a hard drive to find the next fragmented cluster is trivial, do to the way the fat table works. You'd have to do careful testing and timing to find a difference as long as there is no head movement. I'm not totally sure the same situation exists in a flash card. I don't know what translations are involved to make it look like a fat file system, if any. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:48:08 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: HPLX news server In-Reply-To: <20000619211709.YHHP1605.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@worldne t.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:17 PM 6/19/00 +0000, b.newins@worldnet.att.net wrote: >Teo, > >The list maintaince person is using all him FREE time on the >backlighting project at the moment. So try to have a little >more patience. I am sure your request will get done sometime >in the future. =Bob= > I thought that the backlighting project was officially cancelled recently. In any case, my subscription to the HPLX news server has just been approved. Yippee! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:42:23 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: HPLX news server Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:14:28 -0500 >From: Barry >Subject: News server > >I'm a little cofused. Is this the news server you're talking about? >Or is it something else? I get the HPLX mailing list in digest >form. > Yes, it is the news server that I am talking about. My application to join it has just been approved. I will talk more about it in another post. >I did notice the other day that there was some mention of an HPLX >programmers newslist. I was interrupted and forgot about it till I >read this message today. Does anyone have any information about >that? > Yes, there is a hp200.programmers newsgroup in the HPLX news server at news.hplx.net Total of 78 messages from Nov 98 to date, and the last post was dated 8 Mar 00. Quite pathetic, but has potential for focused discussion. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:45:40 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Update on HPLX news server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, My application to join the HPLX news server at news.hplx.net has just been approved. I use Agent newsreader on the PC, and pop all the headers for all the available newsgroups. (There is also a Free Agent available for download at http://www.forteinc.com/) The HPLX Mailing List postings are mirrored in the HPLX news server under the list.hplx newsgroup. There are currently more than 9000 messages starting from Oct 1999 to date. I think the best use for the mirror postings on the HPLX news server is that we can lock the messages that we want to keep for future reference. Also, for those who subscribe to the List in digest mode, the news server provide an alternative to see the List messages in real-time. Besides the list.hplx newsgroup, there are also other newsgroups such as hp200.programmers, hp200.hardware, and hp200.software that could provide for focused discussion on the respective subject. The list of available newsgroups can be found at http://news.hplx.net/ If this post appears twice in the HPLX Mailing List, it means that my attempt to post a message via the HPLX news server is successful. This message is copied to the HPLX Mailing List, in case the news server cannot accept postings to the list.hplx newsgroup, as I seem to have read in the List archives. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:17:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Lynx/Juno Hi Mark, >I've posted about my experiences using Lynx on a text-based >ISP to access Juno. > >Here's what I could find out about Lynx from looking in the >help files on Telerama here in Pittsburgh: > >The version of Lynx that they use is 2.8.3. It is available >for Unix, VMS, Windows 95 and 98. It is NOT available for >DOS (so not on the HPLX), Windows 3.1, 3.11, or OS/2. >They want beta testers. Their e-mail is lynx-dev@sig.net. >I tried the link www.trill-home.com for more information, >but as of last night it didn't work. Thanks for the version number. My interest is in finding an ISP that offers Unix shell accounts and also offers use of an adequate version of Lynx on their end. My interest is in using a HPLX as a terminal so I can use an ISP's own Lynx to access the Juno webmail site. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:27:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Text-based surfing of Juno etc. (Was:Re; 100LX success) Hi Bruce, >> I need to be able to access my Juno email on my HPLX while traveling, so >> in this case, I suppose that I'd use Banana.com as my terminal program, >> but it would be tough to find an ISP who still offers Unix shell >> access... much less one that also offers local access numbers nationwide. >> >You can use any national-access ISP, and go to: > >http://www.digitalpaths.net/wince/pie10.htm > >...and from there enter your target URL. Digital Paths will strip out the >images, applets etc. and present you with text only. I haven't tried it >with Juno, but I assume it would work the way you want. Thanks for the info, Bruce. However, I'm hoping to find an international ISP that offers Unix shell accounts for text based access. I'd rather keep it as simple as possible on the HPLX side by running a simple terminal program to operate the ISP's own Unix based Lynx program for text access to the Juno webmail site. The info you have offered would be useful later if I cannot find an international ISP who offers Unix shell accounts. I've stored your suggestion for later review. Thanks again, Bruce. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:57:10 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash In-Reply-To: <20000620040029.19446gmx1@mx14.gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello photographers, On 20 Jun 2000, at 4:48, Automatic digest processor wrote: > Of course, I did not know until a week ago that they (Smart Media > PCMCIA adapters) existed; perhaps you didn't either. > do you know if a Smart Media card in a PCMCIA Adapter would work in the Palmtop? (voltage would probably do but what about currence?) I would like to buy a camera too and this would make the choice much larger. thanks, Werner Thought for the day: Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people that they are right, whether they are or not. -- PGP-Key: http:/www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:06:42 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , leon.phillips@NETSPEED.COM.AU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leon Phillips Subject: ccMail help with large messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am using ccLXPOP and ccMail to read emails but occasionally recieve an email that is too large and the email is 'added as an attachment'. I can read it but unfortunately if it has any attachments in it I cant detach them. How do I do that? A sample looks like this: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. content-type: text/plain This is an automated message. Please do not send any replies to this address. content-type: application/octet-stream; name="35517.tif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="35517.tif" SUkqAAgAAAARAP4ABAABAAAAAgAAACkBAwACAAAAAAABAAABAwABAAAAwAYAAAI BAwABAAAAAQAA ABUBAwABAAAAAQAAAAMBAwABAAAAAwAAAAYBAwABAAAAAAAAAAcBAwABAAAAAQA .....etc Replies to me directly please as I receive the list in digest format. Thanks Leon Phillips Canberra, Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 00:49:03 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Cat-Distracted Technical Folks, Anonymous Subject: Re: Interesting HP200LX cable found today. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Peter and Penial. I use those all the time, both RJ45 and RJ11 versions; Knew about those. I'd thought someone made this for something like a Mobidem, or some other specific purpose though - Barcode scanner or another laptop or something or other. It may not be an HP cable, but the molded end sure LOOKS like one. Maybe it's set up for that EduCalc deal; it's a definite possibility. Haven't had time to probe this one out yet to see what it is set up at; should be interesting. Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:34:57 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , GWilson241@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Gordon H. Wilson" Subject: Re: DataPerfect Comments: To: steve@carderfamily.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have DataPerfect on my Palmtop, but no instructions on how to use it. Would you be good enough to send me a copy of your manual. Thanks in advance. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:41:37 -0400 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: Re: Text-based surfing of Juno etc. (Was:Re; 100LX success) Comments: To: John J Vanderstel In-Reply-To: <20000619.232858.12670.1.j_vanderstel@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I used to use GEnie for exactly this purpose. I'm not sure if they are still around but it was a great online service that got too pricy. Jim ==================================== Thanks for the info, Bruce. However, I'm hoping to find an international ISP that offers Unix shell accounts for text based access. I'd rather keep it as simple as possible on the HPLX side by running a simple terminal program to operate the ISP's own Unix based Lynx program for text access to the Juno webmail site. The info you have offered would be useful later if I cannot find an international ISP who offers Unix shell accounts. I've stored your suggestion for later review. Thanks again, Bruce. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:42:46 -0400 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: Re: Data perfect Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <001201bfda57$9714dcc0$6dfd36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you all. Several people sent it to me. Jim -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 9:34 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Data perfect > I was just reading about DataPerfect in the Palmtop Paper, but I can't find > it anywhere to download. Data perfect and a lot of tools for it can be downloaded at: http://www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/download.html Look for DPPROG.ZIP for the main files. It's also on the Thaddeus CD, which is well worth having in any case. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:20:22 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: ANN: PDU Version 1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The new version of the POST/LX plugin PDU now also downloads SMS stored in the memory of a mobile, and not only those SMS stored on the SIM card. It also allows to send class0-3 SMS. See the DOC for further explanation of classX SMS. The new version was tested with Siemens S25, S35 and Nokia 7110, 8210. Download from http://peichl.hplx.net/pdu.zip ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:39:20 +0000 Reply-To: melancon@microgear.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Melancon Subject: Re: DataPerfect In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Here is the manual download page - in Wordperfect 5.1 format or in a Dataperfect format. http://www.mailinglist.nu/dataperfect/dpdocs01.php3 There is an excellent book "Mastering Dataperfect" by Ralph Alvy - you can get it in WP 5.1 or WP 6.0 format - costs $60, but worth it if you plan on using DP for more serious applications. (these all are for DP 2.3 nothing is updated for 2.6e) > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:34:57 EDT > Reply-to: HPLX Mailing List , GWilson241@AOL.COM > From: "Gordon H. Wilson" > Subject: Re: DataPerfect > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > I have DataPerfect on my Palmtop, but no instructions on how to use it. Would > you be good enough to send me a copy of your manual. Thanks in advance. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Best Regards, Mike Melancon ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:48:59 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << My **STRONG** recommendation is to choose your digital camera based on camera features OTHER THAN whether it uses Compact Flash or Smart Media cards >> Good point, and I never intended to do otherwise. My inclination (today at least) is towards the Olympus C-2020Z, possibly the same 2.1 megpixel camera you (Jim) bought? My budget is about $500, so that camera may be priced out of my range. I'm also considering the Nikon Coolpix 800, but it lacks the manual aperture and shutter speed controls I'd like (as to most of the others in this price range including the Canon A50/S10/S100). Of the ones I'm considering, the Olympus is the only one to use smart-media, and I was looking to see if the smart-media card could be pressed to do extra work (file exchange) which would add a plus to the camera. As I mentioned, I sometimes connect my omnibook laptop or LX to a variety of desktops (3 at home, 2 at work, and several relatives/friends home computers), and getting a CF reader for all of them isn't practical. The occasional need means that transfer speed takes a back seat to functionality. Sometimes, I don't transfer because the $#%%¬ serial port is in the back of a friend's machine and we have to move half the room to get to it. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:01:19 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media In-Reply-To: <88256904.0051E191.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> from "Longden Loo" at Jun 20, 2000 07:48:59 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sometimes, I don't transfer because the $#%%¬ serial port is in the > back of a friend's machine and we have to move half the room to get to > it. Longden: Valid point. A new home computer I bought last year from HP (their Pavilion series) has a DB9 connector on the front of the computer. It is labeled "CAMERA PORT". For the first few months, I wondered what exactly this connector was, and noted how similar it was to a serial port. One day I had the time to play with it, and found it was a plain serial port. So at least one company has realized the problem you have pointed out (although I will never again buy an HP desktop computer for other reasons, and could not recommend it despite this clever positioning of the serial port connector). -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:06:16 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Problem with Transfile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello, I use Transfile for Windows to copy files from my desktop Computer to the HP200LX. Sometimes it happens, that a file cannot been copied. The copy process starts, but at always the same point (number of Bytes copied) the process stops and the Palmtop loses its connection. Reconnect works without problems, but another try has the same result. It happened to me the first time when I wanted to copy netx. I can copy these files on my CF card without problems in the CF reader, I can copy through the netware connection, but not with transfile. 99% of the files I can copy without problems, but there are some who resist. Any suggestions? Has anybody else had this problem before? with best regards, Werner I Didn't Climb to the Top of the Food Chain to Be a Vegetarian -- PGP-Key: http:/www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:27:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Hi, Longden - 04m13s ago ... On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Longden Loo wrote: > I'm also > considering the Nikon Coolpix 800, but it lacks the manual aperture and > shutter speed controls I'd like (as to most of the others in this price > range including the Canon A50/S10/S100). I recently bought the Epson 850. 2.1 megapixels with an option for 3+ megapixels (interpolated). When I got it, it was higher than you are looking to pay (more than I planned to pay, too...), but with 3MP and 4MP cameras coming out now, you might find it at a discount. Has options for manual aperture and shutter speed, plus external flash sync (hot shoe). Macro focusing to 8" -- gives the equivalent of about 2 or 2.5:1 image size on a 35mm. Uses CF, and comes with an 8MB card. Can transfer via USB, serial port or by sticking the CF (with an adapter) in the laptop. Later, Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:14:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media Comments: To: Chris Lott Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yeah ... out of all the desktops I connect to, only one has the serial port in front. I think the Compaq's are also designed that way now (and they may even pre-date HP on that feature). The floppy drive is the only common and easily accessible "data-port" on every machine. Of course, if using a floppy adapter/smart-media card requires a driver such that I'd have to alter someone else's boot files and re-boot, I can probably toss that idea also, since most people get understandably upset about such modifications on their machines (at least I would). The Sony Mavica that uses a 120mb Superdisk (compatible with 1.44mb floppies also) would be another possible camera choice, if it weren't so gawd-awful ugly and big (and still doesn't have manual aperture/shutter speed controls) ... and is expensive. - Longden Chris Lott on 06/20/2000 08:01:19 AM Please respond to Chris Lott To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media > Sometimes, I don't transfer because the $#%%¬ serial port is in the > back of a friend's machine and we have to move half the room to get to > it. Longden: Valid point. A new home computer I bought last year from HP (their Pavilion series) has a DB9 connector on the front of the computer. It is labeled "CAMERA PORT". For the first few months, I wondered what exactly this connector was, and noted how similar it was to a serial port. One day I had the time to play with it, and found it was a plain serial port. So at least one company has realized the problem you have pointed out (although I will never again buy an HP desktop computer for other reasons, and could not recommend it despite this clever positioning of the serial port connector). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:15:03 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark Shields wrote: > Are there any other disadvantages to double speed... > Any thoughts would be appreciated. When I got my 32M LX I did NOT get the DS feature. That was so unusual that when it arrived it had DS and I had to send it back to have it removed. While speed is usually a good thing I really wasn't unhappy with my original 1X speed LX. I decided that keeping the LX as stock as possible was good as it would minimize the drivers, etc that are required to support DS. I still don't regret my decision. cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:28:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Problem with Transfile Comments: To: furlan@gmx.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've had this problem before, and I remember it being discussed also. Some people solved the problem by zipping the file before transfer. It may be that the transfer protocol on Transfile is imperfectly designed and chokes on a unique byte combination (maybe why it's free). This was one of the reasons I went back to Cpack. - Longden "Dr. Werner Furlan" on 06/20/2000 08:06:16 AM Please respond to furlan@gmx.net To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Problem with Transfile hello, I use Transfile for Windows to copy files from my desktop Computer to the HP200LX. Sometimes it happens, that a file cannot been copied. The copy process starts, but at always the same point (number of Bytes copied) the process stops and the Palmtop loses its connection. Reconnect works without problems, but another try has the same result. It happened to me the first time when I wanted to copy netx. I can copy these files on my CF card without problems in the CF reader, I can copy through the netware connection, but not with transfile. 99% of the files I can copy without problems, but there are some who resist. Any suggestions? Has anybody else had this problem before? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:32:46 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Suquet, Stephan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Suquet, Stephan" Subject: Re: Problem with Transfile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you have a PCMCIA slot on your desktop machine you can copy your = file directly on your card and then open it in your LX. If not as Longden said, zip it and open it with unzip in the LX, it = works. Regards. St=E9phane SUQUET LIZARRAGA PLANIFICACION ECONOMICO-FINANCIERA AGUAS PROVINCIALES DE SANTA FE S.A. Tel: 0341 420 6713 / Fax: 0341 420 6746 > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Longden Loo ÝSMTP:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM¨ > Enviado el: Martes 20 de Junio de 2000 12:29 > Para: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Asunto: Re: Problem with Transfile >=20 > I've had this problem before, and I remember it being discussed also. >=20 > Some people solved the problem by zipping the file before transfer. = It may be > that the transfer protocol on Transfile is imperfectly designed and = chokes on a > unique byte combination (maybe why it's free). >=20 > This was one of the reasons I went back to Cpack. >=20 > - Longden >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > "Dr. Werner Furlan" on 06/20/2000 08:06:16 AM >=20 > Please respond to furlan@gmx.net >=20 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) > Subject: Problem with Transfile >=20 >=20 >=20 > hello, >=20 > I use Transfile for Windows to copy files from my desktop Computer to > the HP200LX. > Sometimes it happens, that a file cannot been copied. The copy = process > starts, but at always the same point (number of Bytes copied) the > process stops and the Palmtop loses its connection. Reconnect works > without problems, but another try has the same result. > It happened to me the first time when I wanted to copy netx. > I can copy these files on my CF card without problems in the CF = reader, > I can copy through the netware connection, but not with transfile. > 99% of the files I can copy without problems, but there are some who > resist. >=20 > Any suggestions? Has anybody else had this problem before? >=20 > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:28:11 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Peniel. Guess I'll have to check prices on this one too. While it does have the full manual control, it'd be nicer if there were a scale to indicate the exposure level relative to the current aperture and shutter settings (like the old SLR needle scales). My Canon Rebel (the classic) film camera has that feature. Most modern cameras (and I think the Epson 850) just show a dot on the viewfinder to indicate a correct exposure level, leaving you to hunt with the aperture/shutter wheels to see what direction you need to go. I know ... I'm pretty picky. Buying high-tech gear is sometimes an exercise in design frustration when "fun" features are added at the expense of the mundane but truly useful features. Like certain computer operating systems . The Epson does sound like a versatile camera tho .. and CF/serial means good connectivity with the LX. - Longden Peniel Romanelli on 06/20/2000 10:27:07 AM To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle cc: Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media > considering the Nikon Coolpix 800, but it lacks the manual aperture and > shutter speed controls I'd like (as to most of the others in this price > range including the Canon A50/S10/S100). I recently bought the Epson 850. 2.1 megapixels with an option for 3+ megapixels (interpolated). When I got it, it was higher than you are looking to pay (more than I planned to pay, too...), but with 3MP and 4MP cameras coming out now, you might find it at a discount. Has options for manual aperture and shutter speed, plus external flash sync (hot shoe). Macro focusing to 8" -- gives the equivalent of about 2 or 2.5:1 image size on a 35mm. Uses CF, and comes with an 8MB card. Can transfer via USB, serial port or by sticking the CF (with an adapter) in the laptop. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:48:28 -0700 Reply-To: Ron Zhang Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Zhang Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Could you kindly give the make and model # of this adapter? An URL would be even better. Thanks. Ron >Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:04:10 -0400 >From: Jim Saklad >Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media > >I hate quoting nearly the whole message, but, point by point, there >is almost NO distinction here between the use of a Compact Flash card >in a PCMCIA compatible adapter and a Smart Media card in a PCMCIA >compatible adapter. > >I just bought the latter (for about $50 including shipping) to read >my Olympus digital camera's 32MB Smart Media card and it is Plug and >Play - appears as a ATA drive on both Windows and Mac desktops, and >files copy a a HIGH speed. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:55:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Colin Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash In-Reply-To: <394F2641.13511.399D063@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Might I suggest getting a camera that is compatible with the IBM Microdrive. I use a Coolpix 950 for work. Nice camera with compact flash but it won't accept the Microdrive. My wife and I both use the Cannon S10 with a 340 meg Microdrive. With a capacity for about 500 2.1 mega pixel shots, the need to dump your shots into a PC frequently disappears. This makes the Nikon seem like a pain in the behind. Also, the Cannon is so compact it's much more likely to leave the house. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:56:40 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media Comments: To: Ron Zhang Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Earlier, Jim mentioned http://www.pcconnection.com Searching there gets this URL (maybe there's more) -> http://www.pcconnection.com/scripts/productdetail.asp?product_id=122567 for a $40 SmartMedia-Type II adapter (p/n 142616, MICROTECH INT.-DIGITAL IMAGING). I don't use one myself, and don't know if this is the one he was referring to ... but it's a start. - Longden Ron Zhang on 06/20/2000 09:48:28 AM Please respond to Ron Zhang To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media Could you kindly give the make and model # of this adapter? An URL would be even better. Thanks. Ron >Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:04:10 -0400 >From: Jim Saklad >Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media > >I hate quoting nearly the whole message, but, point by point, there >is almost NO distinction here between the use of a Compact Flash card >in a PCMCIA compatible adapter and a Smart Media card in a PCMCIA >compatible adapter. > >I just bought the latter (for about $50 including shipping) to read >my Olympus digital camera's 32MB Smart Media card and it is Plug and >Play - appears as a ATA drive on both Windows and Mac desktops, and >files copy a a HIGH speed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:15:15 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There's a lot to like about the Canon S10 (especially that it's small and cheap ... cnet has them at $381 ... Microdrives at $369), tho it lacks basic manual controls that I'd prefer (all DOS people are control freaks). And to reiterate, my original question was meant to ask whether SmartMedia was versatile as a all-purpose file exchange method (to offset its disadvantage with regards to CF) ... not only from camera to computer, but across several computers. Jim has pointed out that the medium is slow (using the floppy adapter). As capacious as the Microdrive is, the price (combined with that of the camera) is out of my $500 range ... but it'd be a trip to have a camera with more memory than two of my computers . The S10 is still one of my choices (which I have to make soon before the money runs out). FWIW, I'd dump my shots frequently into the computer anyway, even with 340mb of on-board. If 20 years of programming has taught me anything .... it's backups, backups, BACKUPS! - Longden Colin Thompson on 06/20/2000 09:55:49 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Colin Thompson To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash Might I suggest getting a camera that is compatible with the IBM Microdrive. I use a Coolpix 950 for work. Nice camera with compact flash but it won't accept the Microdrive. My wife and I both use the Cannon S10 with a 340 meg Microdrive. With a capacity for about 500 2.1 mega pixel shots, the need to dump your shots into a PC frequently disappears. This makes the Nikon seem like a pain in the behind. Also, the Cannon is so compact it's much more likely to leave the house. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:35:06 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also, for those interested in large capacity, there's a Sony Minidisc camera out there that will write to minidiscs. It also allows you to make short movies. Not bad, since a 650MB minidisc only costs a few dollars... Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Longden Loo To: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 10:15 AM Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash > There's a lot to like about the Canon S10 (especially that it's small and cheap > ... cnet has them at $381 ... Microdrives at $369), tho it lacks basic manual > controls that I'd prefer (all DOS people are control freaks). > > And to reiterate, my original question was meant to ask whether SmartMedia was > versatile as a all-purpose file exchange method (to offset its disadvantage with > regards to CF) ... not only from camera to computer, but across several > computers. Jim has pointed out that the medium is slow (using the floppy > adapter). > > As capacious as the Microdrive is, the price (combined with that of the camera) > is out of my $500 range ... but it'd be a trip to have a camera with more memory > than two of my computers . The S10 is still one of my choices (which I have > to make soon before the money runs out). > > FWIW, I'd dump my shots frequently into the computer anyway, even with 340mb of > on-board. If 20 years of programming has taught me anything .... it's backups, > backups, BACKUPS! > > - Longden > > > > > > Colin Thompson on 06/20/2000 09:55:49 AM > > Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond > to Colin Thompson > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) > Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash > > > > Might I suggest getting a camera that is compatible with the IBM Microdrive. > I use a Coolpix 950 for work. Nice camera with compact flash but it won't > accept the Microdrive. My wife and I both use the Cannon S10 with a 340 meg > Microdrive. With a capacity for about 500 2.1 mega pixel shots, the need to > dump your shots into a PC frequently disappears. This makes the Nikon seem > like a pain in the behind. Also, the Cannon is so compact it's much more > likely to leave the house. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:54:15 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: FS: Connector/Adapter Kit (for the HP Palmtop PCs and HP48) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I have 2 adapter kits for the LX. This is basically the set of adapters you normally get with a Connectivity Kit. First two people with 18$ can have them! Paypal or check will be just fine. Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 11:52:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brent Geske Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brent Geske Subject: Re: DataPerfect Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed In addition to increased speed and capacity, there are certain things you can do in a relational database (which DataPerfect is) that simply cannot be done in a flat-file database (which the built-in LX database is). Ever changed the list in a "Category" type field in a 200LX database, and wished all records with the old value would get updated with the new values? Ever wanted more than one Category type field? A RDBMS can handle those sorts of things, and much more. A good description of the differences between flat file and relational is beyond the scope of this note. Suffice it to say that flat is good for small, simple collections of data. If you need 100s or 1000s of records, or the number of data items/fields is large, or the relationship between data items is complex, you probly want something more than flat file. hobchi wrote: >Steve >What is the diff between DATAPERFECT and the LX DATABASE? >Why would yu prefer it? >TIA >yor pal al. > > > > I was just reading about DataPerfect in the Palmtop > > Paper, but I can't find > > > it anywhere to download. > > > > I have Dataperfect on my palmtop. I downloaded it from > > Compuserve. If you > > can't find it elsewhere I can E-mail a copy to you. I > > also downloaded a copy > > of the manual that had been converted to a DataPerfect > > database. It took a > > bit of playing around to figure out how to navigate, but > > I can use the program > > just fine for my purposes now. > > > > Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 11:53:03 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brent Geske Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brent Geske Subject: Re: DataPerfect Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed On another slant -- which version of DataPerfect do you folks consider the most stable/appropriate to use? 2.6e is the latest, yet the 2000 Palmtop InfoBase CD makes mention of using some version of 2.3. 2.3 is described as being more stable for production data. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:03:28 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brent Geske Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brent Geske Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? Comments: cc: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed How much of a battery hit? Longden wrote: >On some 200LXs (mine included), the double-speed upgrade renders the screen >blurred and almost unreadable (tho the severity varies from unit to unit) >until >the speed driver is loaded. > >The major impact here is the boot-setup menu (Esc-On). Other than that, the >Thaddeus/Times2Tech upgrades include utilities to deal with occasional serial >port and game speed incompatibilities (I've experienced none myself). Battery >hit was the most noticeable thing, tho a welcome trade (for me) in >exchange for >faster displays. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:14:22 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The Times2Tech website ( http://www.times2tech.com/speed.html ) says 10%-25% reduction in battery life. It's been so long for me that I don't recall my own exact experience, but I believe that's correct ... it was noticeable, I just remember that. And the amount of reduction probably varies depending on whether you're using alkalines or NiMH/NiCad (and which brands). - Longden Brent Geske on 06/20/2000 01:03:28 PM To: HPLX Mailing List cc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? How much of a battery hit? Longden wrote: >On some 200LXs (mine included), the double-speed upgrade renders the screen >blurred and almost unreadable (tho the severity varies from unit to unit) >until >the speed driver is loaded. > >The major impact here is the boot-setup menu (Esc-On). Other than that, the >Thaddeus/Times2Tech upgrades include utilities to deal with occasional serial >port and game speed incompatibilities (I've experienced none myself). Battery >hit was the most noticeable thing, tho a welcome trade (for me) in >exchange for faster displays. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:19:25 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Here's an interesting looking palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This looks like an interesting unit. It's got RF wireless. It kinda looks like a cross between an HP95 and.... a gameboy. http://cybiko.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:22:23 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Problem with Transfile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I don't use Transfile but I'll guess that it is sensitive to a data pattern found at the stop point in the file. If you have LIST use it to view the file then press Alt-H to turn on Hex view mode and see what the raw data is around the stop point. To bypass this problem you can probably Zip the file and transmit the compressed version. Cheers... Russ Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > I use Transfile for Windows to copy files from my desktop Computer to > the HP200LX. > Sometimes it happens, that a file cannot been copied. The copy process > starts, but at always the same point (number of Bytes copied) the > process stops and the Palmtop loses its connection. Reconnect works > without problems, but another try has the same result. > It happened to me the first time when I wanted to copy netx. > I can copy these files on my CF card without problems in the CF reader, > I can copy through the netware connection, but not with transfile. > 99% of the files I can copy without problems, but there are some who > resist. > > Any suggestions? Has anybody else had this problem before? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:22:25 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden Loo wrote: > The floppy drive is the only common and easily > accessible "data-port" on every machine. Not on the LX! :-) Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:29:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: FS: Connectivity Kits for HP200LX and 100LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have: 4 x F1021B Connectivity Kit for the 200LX - 40$ ea + ship 1 x F1021A Connectivity Kit for the 100LX - 30$ + ship Please e-mail me privately if interested. Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:43:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Here's an interesting looking palmtop Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No kidding! I like it!!! Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Padin To: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Here's an interesting looking palmtop > This looks like an interesting unit. It's got RF wireless. It kinda looks > like a cross between an HP95 and.... a gameboy. > > http://cybiko.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:45:25 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Cat-Distracted Technical Folks, Anonymous Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wanted to comment on two so combined 'em here: Russel Brooks wrote: > Longden Loo wrote: > > The floppy drive is the only common and easily > > accessible "data-port" on every machine. > > Not on the LX! :-) > > Cheers... Russ I avoid floppy drives like the plague, myself; I use a bunch of Parallel Port Hard Drives & similar stuff (lots faster than floppies, far fewer bad media problems, you can carry 8Gb in one hand readily, ...) I've taken to putting PCMCIA ports on many machines here, as I get to it - now THAT's a good common port. Need more conventional RAM? Don't load the drivers. Does eat an ISA slot usually. Works Chris Lott wrote: > Valid point. A new home computer I bought last year from HP (their > Pavilion series) has a DB9 connector on the front of the computer. It > is labeled "CAMERA PORT". For the first few months, I wondered what > ... ComputerGate.Com has inexpensive 3' DE-09 Male to Female, molded ends, serial port cables, CMM0909MF3, $1.69 apiece in the catalog (I think they're now under a dollar apiece though.) Plug one into the port, run it around to the front of the PC on one side or another, problem solved. Or use a 6' cable if that's better for your desk/table/whatever They're at 888-437-0895 for you US denizens. I've made more than one such adapter using a floppy drive port cover, cut a hole, add a connector and cable to plug into the motherboard or an ISA card. Easier to use an external cable IMO, LOTS less work! If you make one, just push gently when plugging in the cable, lest you break the floppy slot cover or push the whole cover inside the machine. Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:50:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 Comments: To: omnibook@elektro.cmhnet.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii While researching for digital cameras, I came upon this news blurb. An IBM announcement today (6/20) of new 512mb and 1gb Microdrives (size is CF-2). The 1gig unit will retail for $499 ! How does the CF-II spec compare to the ordinary CF in terms of using it in either the 200LX or omnibooks? The announcement also mentions a reduction in power requirements. see -> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0006/00062001microdrive1gb_official.asp ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:03:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: ANN: PDU Version 1.5 Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:20:22 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > The new version of the POST/LX plugin PDU now also downloads > SMS stored in the memory of a mobile, and not only those SMS > stored on the SIM card. It also allows to send class0-3 SMS. > See the DOC for further explanation of classX SMS. The new > version was tested with Siemens S25, S35 and Nokia 7110, 8210. When it comes to the Class messages. Did you get this to work? I tried to send all classes, but none of them showed up as a flash messages on the phone. For those who do not know a flash message is a sms message that goes directly to the screen of the phone and you do not get the usual "1 message recevied" in the display. Some operators use flashmessages for delivery reports. I can also send flashmessages if I transfer a special template from a pc to the phone. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:20:38 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media Comments: To: Mark Willis In-Reply-To: <394FE5F5.168C85BD@foxinternet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 20 Jun 2000, at 14:45, Mark Willis wrote: > I've taken to putting PCMCIA ports on many machines here, as I get to it > - now THAT's a good common port. Need more conventional RAM? Don't > load the drivers. Does eat an ISA slot usually. Works > > Mark One point to keep in mind, don't upgrade to Windows 2K in the near future. While it claims pcmcia support and has drivers for the SCM swapbox they don't work with my genuine SCM swapbox. Work perfectly under Windows 98SE so its not the hardware. The pcmcia support seems to be an afterthought, M$ probably figured the only people that need it are laptop users and the laptop company can make the needed drivers. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:24:15 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , alban@MYCROFT.U-NET.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alban Pearce ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:34:32 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It is amazing how a subject "disadvantages of double speed" might come up. I never read anything similar "disadvantages of 733 Mhz Pentium". Too fast or what? Or still to slow? I am quite happy that Mack provided an alternative with double speed otherwise I had to stay with a single speed unit. So, now we do have a choice! Same with upgrades. And each additional item will suck current, that's physic. So it is up to everyone to select between a long lasting device and a fast unit. I have never heard any discussion regarding fast cars. It is really amazing! Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:55:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc - Subject: Re: Problem with Transfile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I too have experienced this problem with Transfile. While I have no solution, I can only relay what I've noticed. On my older laptop (Win95/P100/40Mram) Transfile performs exactly as you describe. However on my new laptop (Win98/P475/64Mram) it works flawlessly... EXCEPT when you try to transfer a file in the "background" while working in another application. If I run only Transfile... it works perefectly. This is not the case with my older laptop. Seems no matter what I try, it will not work 100%. Mark zaaap@earthlink.net > hello, > > I use Transfile for Windows to copy files from my desktop Computer to > the HP200LX. > Sometimes it happens, that a file cannot been copied. The copy process > starts, but at always the same point (number of Bytes copied) the > process stops and the Palmtop loses its connection. Reconnect works > without problems, but another try has the same result. > It happened to me the first time when I wanted to copy netx. > I can copy these files on my CF card without problems in the CF reader, > I can copy through the netware connection, but not with transfile. > 99% of the files I can copy without problems, but there are some who > resist. > > Any suggestions? Has anybody else had this problem before? > > with best regards, > Werner > > I Didn't Climb to the Top of the Food Chain to Be a Vegetarian > > -- > PGP-Key: http:/www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc > SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at > Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:32:32 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Cricket Scoring Program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Listers, Out of curiosity, would there be any interest in a cricket scoring program for the LX? A quick search of the internet brought up only one prog., and that was for Windows. I was playing yesterday afternoon, and the scorer was using an A4 pad and a pen! I know that it's mainly an English thing, and there don't seem to be all that many Brits on the list. Perhaps we're all using Psions with Union Jacks on them? ;-) ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:47:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Cricket Scoring Program Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Randle" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 7:32 PM Subject: Cricket Scoring Program Dear Listers, Out of curiosity, would there be any interest in a cricket scoring program for the LX? A quick search of the internet brought up only one prog., and that was for Windows. I was playing yesterday afternoon, and the scorer was using an A4 pad and a pen! I know that it's mainly an English thing, and there don't seem to be all that many Brits on the list. Perhaps we're all using Psions with Union Jacks on them? ;-) ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Why would I want a program that counts how many crickets are in the woods? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:20:41 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Problem with Transfile Comments: To: furlan@gmx.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The problem does not seem to be consistent. However, I close DOS and all other windows before starting transfile. That seems to help Bob "Dr. Werner Furlan" wrote: > > I use Transfile for Windows to copy files from my desktop Computer to > > Any suggestions? Has anybody else had this problem before? > > with best regards, > Werner > > I Didn't Climb to the Top of the Food Chain to Be a Vegetarian > > -- > PGP-Key: http:/www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc > SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at > Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:02:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Problem with Transfile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Sometimes it happens, that a file cannot been copied. The copy process > starts, but at always the same point (number of Bytes copied) the > process stops and the Palmtop loses its connection. Reconnect works This is a known bug. There is some sequence of bytes that Transfile can't handle. Whenever a file happens to have that sequence, Transfile will stop at that point. If the file is not compressed, then use something like PKZip to compress it. This will change the bytes and it should transfer. If the file is zipped already, the unzip it and transfer it that way. Another option is to try zip.com (not related to PKZip). It is faster than Transfile and doesn't have the same bug. Zip.com is a bit harder to use, since you can't click with the mouse. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:02:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , esseni@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Suresh Nirody Subject: NT network MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The networking article on hplx.net explains how to connect to a Netware or Win95 network. Is it possible to connect to a NT network? If so, what changes need to be made to the instrux? If the answer is no, can someone take a look at the msclient.zip file at www.odysseysoftware.com/support.html and see if those files can be used = to make this connection? Not being very knowledgeable re networking, reading the readme file gives me the impression that they should (it says 429K needed and references using a 8088 processor machine.... Suresh Nirody ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:23:59 CDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry N Zimmerman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry N Zimmerman Subject: Re: Here's an interesting looking palmtop How about the Siemen IC35? Anyone know anything about it? It appears to be the form factor of a Palm but is a clamshell with keyboard and fairly decent looking screen. Bills itself basically as a communication device - an Internet terminal. Larry Zimmerman ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:23:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Here's an interesting looking palmtop Comments: To: Larry N Zimmerman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry N Zimmerman wrote: > > How about the Siemen IC35? Anyone know anything about it? > ... > There's a brief description at: http://www.siemens.com/en/press_service/newsdesk/end99411.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:54:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Text-based surfing of Juno etc. (Was:Re: 100LX success) Hi Jim, >I used to use GEnie for exactly this purpose. I'm not sure if they are >still around but it was a great online service that got too pricy. GEnie closed its doors at the end of 1999. Membership dwindled to almost nothing because the various owners of GEnie didn't upgrade it past 1980's technology. It was the Y2K problem that finally killed it, since its owners didn't see the point in fixing the software any longer. :-( I haven't had any luck so far in finding info on dial-up access to the old Delphi online service. (I know that it can still be telnetted into, but I'm not sure if Delphi offers dial-up access anymore.) Delphi might be the only nationwide online service left who offers text based internet access, and that's what I'm looking for so I can access my Juno email with a simple terminal program on my HPLX. :-/ If anyone else has any info about dial-up access to Delphi, please let me know. John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:26:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? Comments: To: h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:34:32 +0200 "Guenther Helmuth E." writes: > I never read anything similar "disadvantages of 733 Mhz Pentium". I have. Too fast for old games! :-) > And each additional item will suck current, that's physic. So it is > up to everyone to select between a long lasting device and a fast unit. True enough. That's why the only surgery I want on my palmtop is a backlight. > I have never heard any discussion regarding fast cars. It is really > amazing! Well, fast cars use more gasoline usually. :-) Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:31:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:50:54 -0700 Longden Loo writes: > An IBM announcement today (6/20) of new 512mb and 1gb Microdrives > (size is CF-2). The 1gig unit will retail for $499 ! Man, I though I was going to be first to post that! Oh well. :-) > How does the CF-II spec compare to the ordinary CF in terms of using > it in either the 200LX or omnibooks? The site speaks of 250ma power draw during writes 20ma on standby. > The announcement also mentions a reduction in power requirements. > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0006/00062001microdrive1gb_official.asp If the power requirements could get low enough for the hplx, I would get one as soon as they came out (here is hoping). Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:14:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Paul R. Bernard" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Paul R. Bernard" Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash Comments: To: furlan@gmx.net In-Reply-To: "Dr. Werner Furlan"'s message of "Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:57:10 +0100" "Dr. Werner Furlan" writes: > do you know if a Smart Media card in a PCMCIA Adapter would work in the > Palmtop? > (voltage would probably do but what about currence?) Yes. I have an Olympus camera that uses 3.3V SmartMedia and a FujiFilm PC-AD3 PC Card adaptor and the combination seems to work just fine in my 200LX. The PC Card adaptor seems to take care of handling the 5V to 3.3V conversion; as far as I know the 200LX can only supply 5V or 12V to its PC slot. I don't make heavy use of the SmartMedia in my palmtop (I prefer CF) so I can't say how the power requirement compare with CF but it does work for me. I have both read and written large files to the SmartMedia with no obvious problems. > I would like to buy a camera too and this would make the choice much > larger. I would have preferred a camera that used CF rather than SmartMedia but I bought on camera features rather than storage media. The PC adaptor make the difference almost invisible. - paul ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:03:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Possible new source for free internet access for the HPLX Hi All, I just came across something very interesting that was written by a PalmPilot user. He has described and illustrated in detail how he can use 4 of the free national internet ISPs (Freewwweb, Freei, FreeAtLast and Netzero) to get free internet access on his PalmPilot. His instructions are so easy to follow that it looks like someone with graphical internet software on their HP200LX might be able to use the same settings and tips to do the same on their HP200LX! If you have graphical internet access software on your HP200LX and you are located in either the US or Canada, please check out the enclosed URL and see if you can use the info to establish a free internet connection through one of the many free local access phone numbers offered these 4 ISPs. Please let us all know how you did! If it can be done, I just might go ahead and finally purchase the graphical internet access software (from D&A?) for my HP200LX! :-) Palm Notes: Using a "Free ISP" dial-up with your Palm Device http://www.geocities.com/daveinfopage/palmpilot_freeISP.html Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:49:26 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: Re: Cricket Scoring Program Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Here in South Africa cricket is a huge game (you might have heard about the scandal on matchfixing where our cricket captain is involved). I can imagine that an HPLX would be ideal to keep score next to the cricket pitch - the batterylife would be fine, the lighting condition would be perfect, and at the speed at which the players score the HP would have far too much processing power. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken London ÝSMTP:kenlondon@BELD.NET¨ > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 1:48 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Cricket Scoring Program > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Randle" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 7:32 PM > Subject: Cricket Scoring Program > > > Dear Listers, > > Out of curiosity, would there be any interest in a cricket > scoring program for the LX? A quick search of the internet > brought up only one prog., and that was for Windows. > > I was playing yesterday afternoon, and the scorer was using > an A4 pad and a pen! I know that it's mainly an English > thing, and there don't seem to be all that many Brits on the > list. Perhaps we're all using Psions with Union Jacks on them? > ;-) > > ---------- > > Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > Why would I want a program that counts how many crickets are in the woods? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:35:13 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: ANN: PDU Version 1.5 Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Martin Bergvill wrote: > When it comes to the Class messages. Did you get this to work? > > For those who do not know a flash message is a sms message that goes > directly to the screen of the phone and you do not get the usual "1 > message recevied" in the display. I still believe that the mobile has to support it. For example, on the S25 a SMS delivery report was immediately displayed on the S25 screen and I had to decide, if I want to store it. Putting the same SIM card in the 8210, the report is automatically stored to the SIM card like a regular SMS. No immediate display. Similar applies to CB (Cell Broadcast) messages. These messages are transmitted to every mobile in a cell, as the name implies. CB is completely different from SMS. It's only one way without personal adressing scheme and usually contains news, traffic information or positioning information of the mobile. It depends of the provider, what is transferred over the different "channels". On the S25, I could set up through the menu, if I want to have CB appear immediately on the screen. On the 8210, CB is always kept in the background and I get a "new message received" for every incoming CB. Again no immediate display possible. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:40:53 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Mark, regarding your screen problem: Maybe it goes away when you press onto the left (especially lower left) area of the border around the screen? If this is the case, it is just a bad electrical connection between the screen cable and the screen itself. this could be easily fixed by someone who has experiance with taking LXs apart. GTX daniel On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:45:27 EDT, Mark Shields wrote: > I've been working with my first, crippled, 100LX and am very > pleased with it despite its screen problem. I'm facing a > decision as to getting it fixed, getting a 200LX, how much RAM, > double speed, etc. (FWIW, the screen intermittently gets > stripes, turns black, becomes so light it's illegible, > or has moving patterns of various sorts. Various things > have returned it to its normal state--turning the unit off and > on, switching from battery power to AC, using alkalines > instead of NiCd's, etc., but now it seems to have reached > the end of its rope. It is still functioning despite the > screen nonsense, and so long as you can accurately guess > where you are, will do anything you ask it.) . -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 05:42:36 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: WTB: 200LX Hi! I'm looking for a 200LX. I've decided that with the simple applications I plan to run and with the limited number of files I plan to have, a 2MB or 4MB single speed unit is sufficient, but I will consider others. Please reply off-list. Thanks! Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Let the little children come to Me," Jesus said, "and don't keep them away. The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." -Matthew 19:14 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 05:42:36 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: 100LX screen problem Hi! My first HP palmtop, a 1MB 100LX, has been getting worse. At first it would occasionally develop vertical lines all the way across the screen, which would usually go away when I turned it off and on. It got worse and would go away only when I switched power supplies somehow, usually to something stronger, like going from MiCd to alkaline, or plugging in the external power supply. On alkalines or with the external supply I had several sessions of an hour or more with no problems. But it continued to get worse and eventually would not return to normal at all. Now it has a black screen when I first turn it on, which gradually fades into a pulsating pattern of vertical stripes, first heavy and then lighter, with pronounced vertical smearing where there is something large on the screen, like the icons. It goes on fading until nothing is visible on the DOS screen, but in application screens there is enough smearing so that you can usually see enough to navigate. The computer functions normally otherwise and will do anything you ask it to, provided you can see where it is! I don't have a lot of money in the machine and don't figure it's justified to spend a lot on it, since it's seen heavy use. Mark Willis thinks it may be just a cable connection that needs cleaned. I've opened up small computers before, with good result, and am ready to have a go at this one, since I'm planning on getting a 200LX for serious work anyway. Any thoughts, any words of wisdom would be appreciated! :-) Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Let the little children come to Me," Jesus said, "and don't keep them away. The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." -Matthew 19:14 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 06:03:26 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:50:54 -0700, Longden Loo wrote: > While researching for digital cameras, I came upon this news blurb. > > An IBM announcement today (6/20) of new 512mb and 1gb Microdrives (size is > CF-2). The 1gig unit will retail for $499 ! > > How does the CF-II spec compare to the ordinary CF in terms of using it in > either the 200LX or omnibooks? I think it was thicker was'nt it?. > The announcement also mentions a reduction in power requirements. This sounds good. But I am not optimistic using these in the Hplx because of the size.. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 06:03:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:14:31 -0700, Longden Loo wrote: > > The Sony Mavica that uses a 120mb Superdisk (compatible with 1.44mb floppies > also) would be another possible camera choice, if it weren't so gawd-awful ugly > and big (and still doesn't have manual aperture/shutter speed controls) ... and > is expensive. > > - Longden I can not remember now who made a camera that used minidisc's to store pictures. It was only 640*480 (and probably only relaesed in Japan). But I think it was a great idea. I am a minidisc ethusiast, but I would maybe go for a camera with compact flash if I was in the market for a new one.. The minidisc camaera could store about 2000 pictures on a MD data disc. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 06:03:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:35:06 -0700, Fryday wrote: > Also, for those interested in large capacity, there's a Sony Minidisc camera out there that will write to minidiscs. It also allows > you to make short movies. Not bad, since a 650MB minidisc only costs a few dollars... > > Philippe This must be a newer camera than the one I was talking about.(in the flash & smartmedia thread) The one I saw used 140 mb Md data discs. But there are something on the way regarding md. I think it is called MD2 and has 640mb capacity..not sure though.. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:37:41 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adriaan van Nijendaal Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adriaan van Nijendaal Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <88256904.006F3ACB.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed My DoubleSpeed user manual also gives me that 25% higher number for battery consumption. I use buddy, at it keeps track of how long my batteries last. On my old unit it was around 20 hrs on two alkaline (Duracell of Energizer) cells, but my new 32MB/DS needs only 8 hours to drain two of those cells. NiCads last in between 6 hrs (out of a good battery charger) and 3.5 hrs (repeated charging with ABC/LX). Both units have their serial ports switched off at all times. I think I've seen a message somewhere saying there may be a (correctable) problem to solve this. Is that true? What should I do, because I'm beginning to think there's something wrong with my unit. Adriaan >Brent Geske on 06/20/2000 01:03:28 PM > >How much of a battery hit? > >Longden wrote: > >The Times2Tech website ( http://www.times2tech.com/speed.html ) says 10%-25% >reduction in battery life. > >It's been so long for me that I don't recall my own exact experience, but I >believe that's correct ... it was noticeable, I just remember that. And the >amount of reduction probably varies depending on whether you're using >alkalines >or NiMH/NiCad (and which brands). ----------------------------------------------------------- Adriaan van Nijendaal mailto://adriaan@wanadoo.be North 50 deg 18.7018' East 5 deg 48.8377' Lierneux Belgium http://web.wanadoo.be/adriaan Belgium-Australia BMW R1100GS ----------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:06:34 -0400 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: Re: Text-based surfing of Juno etc. (Was:Re: 100LX success) Comments: To: John J Vanderstel In-Reply-To: <20000621.005650.3478.1.j_vanderstel@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sorry to hear that GEnie is gone. I was on there from about 1982... It was the best online service, IMO. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of John J Vanderstel Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:55 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Text-based surfing of Juno etc. (Was:Re: 100LX success) Hi Jim, >I used to use GEnie for exactly this purpose. I'm not sure if they are >still around but it was a great online service that got too pricy. GEnie closed its doors at the end of 1999. Membership dwindled to almost nothing because the various owners of GEnie didn't upgrade it past 1980's technology. It was the Y2K problem that finally killed it, since its owners didn't see the point in fixing the software any longer. :-( I haven't had any luck so far in finding info on dial-up access to the old Delphi online service. (I know that it can still be telnetted into, but I'm not sure if Delphi offers dial-up access anymore.) Delphi might be the only nationwide online service left who offers text based internet access, and that's what I'm looking for so I can access my Juno email with a simple terminal program on my HPLX. :-/ If anyone else has any info about dial-up access to Delphi, please let me know. John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:17:27 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Smart Media card in a Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello all, I read all the interesting postings regarding the digital camera storage medias. What I could not find (maybe I over-read it) is if a Smartmedia Card in a PCMCIA Adapter can be read in a Palmtop as CF Cards can. So I ask once more, if anybody has done this yet? PS: thank you for the answer on my transfile for Windows problem. -> conclusion: its a bug in the Software -> workarounds: zip or unzip the file and try again, use a different program for transfer, use a different connection (net, Pcmcia, IRDA) best regards, Werner Thought for the day: Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people that they are right, whether they are or not. -- PGP-Key: http:/www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:47:37 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Dos based Email System In-Reply-To: <20000619040152.25424gmx1@mx10.gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello, On 19 Jun 2000, at 4:49, Automatic digest processor wrote: > If you're looking for a DOS mail system, you could give Minuet a try. > Minuet origins from umn.edu and should be available at > ftp://boombox.micro.umn.edu/ but it's not there anymore. Minuet can now > be found at ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/msdos/networking/ > I think that also Pegasus Mail for Dos should work. http://www.pmail.com Werner Thought for the day: Advertising (n): the science of arresting the human intelligence for long enough to get money from it. -- Stephen Leacock. -- PGP-Key: http:/www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:18:18 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 19 Jun 2000 to 20 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-220) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:20:38 -0400 > From: "Peter W. Borders" > Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media > > On 20 Jun 2000, at 14:45, Mark Willis wrote: > > > I've taken to putting PCMCIA ports on many machines here, as I get to it > > - now THAT's a good common port. Need more conventional RAM? Don't > > load the drivers. Does eat an ISA slot usually. Works > > > > Mark > > One point to keep in mind, don't upgrade to Windows 2K in the near future. While it claims pcmcia support and has drivers > for the SCM swapbox they don't work with my genuine SCM swapbox. Work perfectly under Windows 98SE so its not the > hardware. The pcmcia support seems to be an afterthought, M$ probably figured the only people that need it are laptop > users and the laptop company can make the needed drivers. > > Pete > > > Peter W. Borders > > Network Support Technician > Tidewater Community College > tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us > Microsoft has *ALWAYS* left provision of device-specific drivers to the device manufacturer. The only Microsoft-written drivers in any distribution have been for the "generic" devices, such as VGA video, standard serial/PS/2 mouse, standard modems. Drivers for Hercules Dynamite Graphics, HP Laserjet 4, Logitech Trackball, 3C509 NIC, Kodak DC-260 camera, and, yes, the SCM Swapbox *may* be included on a distribution, but their development has been the responsibility of the hardware manufacturer, who connects to the MS standard APIs, but knows the hardware internals. This was a frequent discussion topic for instance on the W2K beta program newsgroups. I haven't had problems with PCMCIA support in W2K on my Omnibooks (800 from beta 2 on, and 900) using Xircom and Intel CardBus NICs, TDK modems, Sundisk PCMCIA, SanDisk CF, Panasonic/HP SCSI, Maxtor and Epson ATA HDDs . . . Haven't tried the GamePort yet. This also explains the differing stability results people have experienced with seemingly identical Windows systems. Different, even seemingly minor, components use different drivers which may not have been as thoroughly tested, for whatever reason, *by the manufacturer*. Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 06:25:48 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CF-II is 5mm vs 3.3mm for Type-1. I don't know, but I'm guessing that CF-II is comparable in thickness to PCMCIA Type-II (anyone know this?) It seems like David Sargeant commented before on the IBM Microdrive being too thick also several months ago. And I also don't know if they make a PCMCIA adapter for the CF-II cards. - Longden Martin Bergvill on 06/21/2000 03:03:26 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Martin Bergvill To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 > An IBM announcement today (6/20) of new 512mb and 1gb Microdrives (size is > CF-2). The 1gig unit will retail for $499 ! > > How does the CF-II spec compare to the ordinary CF in terms of using it in > either the 200LX or omnibooks? I think it was thicker was'nt it?. > The announcement also mentions a reduction in power requirements. This sounds good. But I am not optimistic using these in the Hplx because of the size.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:59:19 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E5rd_Tveiten?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E5rd_Tveiten?= Subject: Re: Prolinear 386 info Comments: To: zot2u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey! I am an Norwegian HP200lx user. I saw that Prolinear was mentioned in a mail, Is this for sale? And is it new, right from the box? If thats the case, i would like to know the price? If you have both 2mb models and 4 mb models, i would like to know the price on both models separate. I would also like to know the cost of packing and sending it to Norway. Chears Berd Tveiten Berd Tveiten E-mail: ba-t@online.no E-mail2: frostegutt@hotmail.com Internettkonsulent i Prosjekt LIBRA Leder i Foreningen For Muskelsyke i Xstfold Berd Tveiten E-mail: ba-t@online.no E-mail2: frostegutt@hotmail.com Internettkonsulent i Prosjekt LIBRA Leder i Foreningen For Muskelsyke i Xstfold ----- Original Message ----- From: "zot2u" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 7:08 AM Subject: Re: Prolinear 386 info > It's the 4meg model > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:10:54 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: Backlighting canceled MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, I went to Staples yesterday and stumbled across a product that helps with night use of the 200LX. The product is called "Mini Booklight" Model BL094BL UPC Code 077073094052. It's from the Lightning Bug, Ltd, Chicago Hts., IL 60411 The cost ? $ 4.99 - batteries not included. This light can be used to illuminate the screen and the keyboard. It runs on two AA's and is very adjustable and light weight. I think you could use Velcro to hold the 200LX firmly to it's base. It's a simple, cheap way to have a method to see, for now. Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:34:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: ADMIN: AJK goes on Holiday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:25:28 -0500 (EST) Hi All: As I have mentioned before, I will be overseas next week, leaving Sat 6/24 - returning Sun 7/2. It seems due to a rather busy itinarary, and lack of definite plans for an internet connection, I will be administering the HPLX-L minimumly(if at all) during this time frame. - I will put up manual instructions for subscribing / unsubscribing on the web site. - I will not be monitoring LIST traffic (you play nice ;-) ) - If anyone has experience with ListServ (or thinks they can figure it out from the online docs), and wants to volunteer to Administer the HPLX-L for the next week, drop me a note, or give me a call. Cheers...AJKind * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:48:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Text-based surfing of Juno etc. (Was:Re: 100LX success) Comments: To: jhenry@comcastwork.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Henry" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Text-based surfing of Juno etc. (Was:Re: 100LX success) > I'm sorry to hear that GEnie is gone. I was on there from about 1982... It > was the best online service, IMO. > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > John J Vanderstel > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:55 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Text-based surfing of Juno etc. (Was:Re: 100LX success) > > > Hi Jim, > > >I used to use GEnie for exactly this purpose. I'm not sure if they are > >still around but it was a great online service that got too pricy. > > GEnie closed its doors at the end of 1999. Membership dwindled to almost > nothing because the various owners of GEnie didn't upgrade it past 1980's > technology. > > It was the Y2K problem that finally killed it, since its owners didn't > see the point in fixing the software any longer. :-( > > I haven't had any luck so far in finding info on dial-up access to the > old Delphi online service. (I know that it can still be telnetted into, > but I'm not sure if Delphi offers dial-up access anymore.) Delphi might > be the only nationwide online service left who offers text based internet > access, and that's what I'm looking for so I can access my Juno email > with a simple terminal program on my HPLX. :-/ > > If anyone else has any info about dial-up access to Delphi, please let me > know. > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > I'm very happy that GENIE is gone. It was a very poorly run service with no redeeming qualities. About equal to America on Hold. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:29:25 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Fluff:Re: Cricket Scoring Program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:47:36 -0400, Ken London wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Randle" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 7:32 PM > Subject: Cricket Scoring Program > > Dear Listers, > > Out of curiosity, would there be any interest in a cricket > scoring program for the LX? A quick search of the internet > brought up only one prog., and that was for Windows. > Why would I want a program that counts how many crickets are in the woods? Aha.. Brian Lara is a animal? :-)) I have heard cricketnews every tuesday night for three years and I still can not understand anything. But thats alright the hosts of the program I listen too does understand shit either.. They just thinks that it sounds very funny with all the results.. They once told me this: "Criket as explained to a foreign visitor You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man thats in the side thats in goes out and when he's out he comes in and then the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out the side thats out comes in and the side thats been in goes out and tries to get those coming in out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out. When both sides have been in and out including the not outs thats the end of the game.." This is far from crystal clear for me to understand :-)) Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:55:43 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: DataPerfect's OK but Q&A Symantic? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Postings re: DataPerfect reminded me of a simple (non-relational) but excellent DB "Q&A". Would like to know if anyone uses Q&A on LX? Experience? Wonder if Q&A is freeware by now? TIA Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:02:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: DataPerfect's OK but Q&A Symantic? Comments: To: Bk361kb@AOL.COM In-Reply-To: <76.64cde1.26823f7f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill, I use Q&A on my LX extensively. Double speed recommended. No, it's not freeware. I don't expect this to happen anytime soon. Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:03:20 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: ANN: PDU Version 1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:35:13 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: (Sorry for sending the last message to your privat email..pushed the wrong button) > Martin Bergvill wrote: > > > When it comes to the Class messages. Did you get this to work? > > > > For those who do not know a flash message is a sms message that goes > > directly to the screen of the phone and you do not get the usual "1 > > message recevied" in the display. > > I still believe that the mobile has to support it. Yes. This is a Phase 2+ service. But the old Nokia 2110i supported messages directly to the screen. So I guess all phones newer than the 2110 has this. > For example, > on the S25 a SMS delivery report was immediately displayed on > the S25 screen and I had to decide, if I want to store it. I think I was wrong. The delivery reports and a regular flash message is _not_ the same. They behave differently when a phone recevies them. It is different yes how various phones handle deliveryreports. The 7110 stores them in the phone and you have to delete them. The Nokia 8110i showed them and then deleted them. > Putting the same SIM card in the 8210, the report is > automatically stored to the SIM card like a regular SMS. > No immediate display. Strange. If I send a message I get "Delivered" in the display, but it also saves itself to the sim/phonememory.. The 7110 says it is a "Info message" or something. The 7110 identifies it as a delivery report. > Similar applies to CB (Cell Broadcast) messages. These messages > are transmitted to every mobile in a cell, as the name implies. > CB is completely different from SMS. It's only one way without > personal adressing scheme and usually contains news, traffic > information or positioning information of the mobile. It > depends of the provider, what is transferred over the different > "channels". There are some tests running in Norway with this. Used for localized advertisment and stuff like that. > On the S25, I could set up through the menu, if I want to have > CB appear immediately on the screen. On the 8210, CB is always > kept in the background and I get a "new message received" for > every incoming CB. Again no immediate display possible. Okey. I do not know how this works on the 7110 since I have never tried it. But when it comes to flashmessages I do belive that your 8210 will show it directly to the screen. If it then saves it I do not know. If you mail me your mobil phonenumber or sends me an sms on +4790199462 I will send you a flash message from Logomanager (desktop pc application). It will show directly on the display and will not come as a normal sms where you get "1 message recevied" Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:00:42 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/consumer/ss5/generic/mddisccamcorder/mddisccamcorder/index.shtml Pricey... Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Bergvill" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:03 AM Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash > On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:35:06 -0700, Fryday wrote: > > > Also, for those interested in large capacity, there's a Sony Minidisc camera out there that will write to minidiscs. It also allows > > you to make short movies. Not bad, since a 650MB minidisc only costs a few dollars... > > > > Philippe > > This must be a newer camera than the one I was talking about.(in the > flash & smartmedia thread) The one I saw used 140 mb Md data discs. But > there are something on the way regarding md. I think it is called MD2 > and has 640mb capacity..not sure though.. > > Regards > > -- > Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:57:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 06:25:48 -0700 Longden Loo writes: > And I also don't know if they make a PCMCIA adapter for the CF-II > cards. I could be mistaken, but I was under the impression that the reason for the recent fire sales and drop in prices on PCMCIA adapters was because Sandisk was coming out with a new adapter to support both types of CF. This is the reason for my interest in this subject. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:11:00 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: ANN: PDU Version 1.5 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 21.06.2000, 19:43, you wrote: > I think I was wrong. The delivery reports and a regular flash message > is _not_ the same. They behave differently when a phone recevies them. Hehe. We tested this on my S35. It was really hard work to get rid of Martin's "real" flash sm. It was saved on the SIM card _and_ in the phone's memory so I had to delete it twice. But I can't cause this behavior with the different classes of PDU. And I can't cause the behavior of the notify sm which my provider sends me when I got a new message on my mailbox: The first one I get says "1 message". When I don't read this message and I got one another call on my mailbox, a second notify sm is sent and this one _replaces_ the first (and says "2 messages"). So I just have to read one sm. I think I read that this behavior is caused by one of the sm classes... As I can't send a flash sm and no notify sm, I conclude that the class information is either not supported by my phone or is filtered by my provider. Martin, does the Logomanager send sms via your mobile phone or via modem/isdn dial-in=3F >> Similar applies to CB (Cell Broadcast) messages. These messages (...) > There are some tests running in Norway with this. Used for localized > advertisment and stuff like that. My provider uses this to show you which area codes you could dial to pay just short distance calls. Normally, the area code of the city you're currently in is shown. >> On the S25, I could set up through the menu, if I want to have >> CB appear immediately on the screen. On the 8210, CB is always >> kept in the background and I get a "new message received" for >> every incoming CB. Again no immediate display possible. Stefan, you have the provider Viag Interkom. Do they provide you with this area code information that you know which numbers are short distance=3F I think it's a mess if these numbers are not shown directly=3F! Bye G=FCnther PS: If I should do some more testings with sending sms, tell me what to do. They're really cheap for me. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:02:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fryday wrote: > > http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/consumer/ss5/generic/mddisccamcorder/mddisccamcorder/index.shtml > > Pricey... > > Philippe > I saw one at Sony's Metreon and it _is_ a very nice unit, and I believe that it was then actually being sold for right around ~$2k. I suggested I'd be happy to buy one on the spot for half-price, but---needless to say---wasn't taken up on the offer. I like MD as a medium, though. It is a nice size. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:30:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 Subject: Re: Smart Media vs Compact flash In-Reply-To: "burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET"'s message of Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:55:49 -0700 So, has anyone searched for the lowest price on CF cards in the larger sizes, like 128meg? So far, we like our Coolpix, since it's got lots of controls, which my photo-savvy wife likes, and I can use it too. But we need more memory, clearly. 73, doug Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:55:49 -0700 From: Colin Thompson Might I suggest getting a camera that is compatible with the IBM Microdrive. I use a Coolpix 950 for work. Nice camera with compact flash but it won't accept the Microdrive. My wife and I both use the Cannon S10 with a 340 meg Microdrive. With a capacity for about 500 2.1 mega pixel shots, the need to dump your shots into a PC frequently disappears. This makes the Nikon seem like a pain in the behind. Also, the Cannon is so compact it's much more likely to leave the house. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:38:39 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: ANN: PDU Version 1.5 In-Reply-To: <1105645347.20000621201100@guenther-eisele.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 21.06.2000, 20:34, you wrote: > As I can't send a flash sm and no notify sm, I conclude that the class > information is either not supported by my phone or is filtered by my > provider. I withdraw this. I just searched some time via deja.com and found that e.g. the software www.s25atonce.de does these kinds of classes (at least "direct view"). The S25 and the S35 don't have built-in functions to send these messages, but it is supported by external software. I can't test this software, because I don't have a IR port on my desktop, so I can't connect to the phone. Stefan, maybe you ask the author of s25@once how he made these functions work=3F Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:29:44 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <88256905.0049D619.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 21 Jun 2000, at 6:25, Longden Loo wrote: > CF-II is 5mm vs 3.3mm for Type-1. I don't know, but I'm guessing that CF-II is > comparable in thickness to PCMCIA Type-II (anyone know this?) > > It seems like David Sargeant commented before on the IBM Microdrive being too > thick also several months ago. > > And I also don't know if they make a PCMCIA adapter for the CF-II cards. > > - Longden A CFII card is the same thickness as a type II pcmcia card. They require a different adaptor since a normal cf to pcmcia adaptor has one side solid. The IBM microdrive is a CFII card and can be purchased with a CFII to pcmcia type II adaptor. Even though it is a type II adaptor there may still be issues with the fit in the 200lx since it only has one slot, someone would have to try one out to be sure but technically it should fit. Power is the main problem since the microdrive takes more than the 200lx can supply. Also, on adaptors, CFII to pcmcia type II adaptors are available from other sources as well as IBM. I haven't tried a CFI in one but if I remember I will when I get home, I would think that it would have to work since the CFII slot if backwards compatible so the adaptor would almost have to be as well. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:46:01 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Here's an interesting looking palmtop Comments: To: Larry N Zimmerman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:23:59 CDT, Larry N Zimmerman wrote: > It appears to be the form factor of a Palm but is a clamshell with > keyboard and fairly decent looking screen. Bills itself basically as a > communication device - an Internet terminal. ...but only in combination with one of the Siemens phones; especially the S25. GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:59:04 -0500 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Organization: Times2 Tech Subject: Wear Leveling In-Reply-To: <3950ED78.8392.EAD43@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I received back an answer from Sandisk about Wear Levelling and they stated that there has been no need for it for at least 4 years now. They sent me the below document which discusses how they handle it: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Endurance of SanDisk FlashDisks when used in a Windows 95 or NT Environment The following is the endurance mechanism of SanDisk memory: Each 512 byte sector has an endurance (number of write cycles) in excess of 1,000,000 cycles. When a sector reaches end of life, which is determined when a sector cannot be successfully written and verified, a new sector is provided from a pool of spares. SanDisk guarantees a minimum of 1% of the total capacity of the card in spares when it is shipped. The spare sectors are in a reserved area of memory which is in addition to the normal specified capacity of the card. The substitution of spare sectors is automatic, and completely transparent to the user. Here's a sample calculation of a typical situation for a desktop computer, based on certain assumptions. The assumptions are: 1. The most used sectors are those used by the directory and the FAT tables. Each time a file is written anywhere on the memory, typically one directory sector and two sectors of FAT need to be updated. These will not necessarily be the same physical sectors throughout the life of the drive, but for simplicity, and to be conservative, this factor is not taken into account. Note that the smallest unit of disk memory in a DOS FAT file system is actually a cluster rather than a sector. The number of sectors per cluster varies with the size of the drive. So each time a file is updated, a total of 3 clusters, plus the clusters used by the file are written to the disk. The sectors used by files are written much less than the directory and FAT sectors, so the number of writes to file sectors is ignored for this simple calculation. 2. The average number of file writes per day is 10 writes per hour for an 8 hour day, for a total of 80 writes per day. You can adjust this number to suit the application. 3. Assume a 220 MB capacity. The number of sectors per cluster is 8. There is a total of 430,080 sectors and a minimum of 4300 spare sectors. For these parameters, there is a total of 1,000,000*(4300+1) = 4,301,000,000 sector writes available before the device is exhausted. The number of sector writes per year is (80 writes per day)*(365 days per year)*(3 sectors*8 sectors/cluster per write) = 700,800. So the life of the drive is 4,301,000,000/700,800 = 6137 years. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:24:39 +0100 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Mark Shields wrote: > > Are there any other disadvantages to double speed--software > > that won't work, decreased reliability, etc.? >"Richard E. McEvoy" wrote: >I don't know about the power drain because I changed my Flash >card around the same time for a 96mb compact. I think I'm getting more >out of the batteries, but I'm not sure why. Wow! I think I was half asleep when I wrote the above. I noticed a marked power drain when I first upgraded to a 6mb DS. At the time I had a 10mb flashcard of doubtful origin which may have exacerbated the problem. So the second upgrade to 32mb accompanied by the better flashcard seemed to improve matters; unless it was the fresh batteries I installed at that time:-) Richard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:23:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , rwilliams@RWILLIAMS.WOW.AUST.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: More than one sender was specified. Second and following senders discarded. From: Frank Williams Subject: Fwd: SRAM Card help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- begin of forwarded message --- Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:24:34 -0400 To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU From: rwilliams@rwilliams.wow.aust.com (Frank Williams) Subscriber Comments: Help, Using My SRAM PCMCIA card in my new W98 notebook will not see it as an extra deive so I can access the files (my old dos 6.2) notebook did? W98 ids the Card as a SRAM but allows no access. How do I get access to the SRAM card as a seperate directory? Can anyone help, Thanks... Frank --------------------------------------------------------------------------= - --- end of forwarded message --- * * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:29:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: VOLT/LX is now Copyrighted Freeware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Today, June 21 2000 D&A Software released VOLT/LX as copyrighted freeware. It is available for downloading on D&A Software's Webpage at http://www.dasoft.com. VOLT/LX is a battery monitoring program for the HP 100/200/700 LX computers. It displays the voltage of the batteries in the area on the screen that normally would have the F1 key label. The actual functionality of the F1 key is unchanged. Usually this key is dedicated to raising Help screens. VOLT/LX also accumulates the "time-on-battery" and can display it as alternate information in the same area on the screen. VOLT/LX has long been the "little cousin" of ABC/LX, our program which monitors the status of the batteries, and turns on the charging process when the batteries fall below a user-selected voltage. ABC/LX then monitors the charging process until the batteries are fully charged, as determined by other user-selected parameters. ABC/LX keeps track of voltage, time-on-battery, and "user time" which counts the time the user is active on the keyboard. VOLT/LX has fewer features, but it is a useful program if you only require a constant visual status reminder of the voltage or time on the battery. Unlike its "big cousin" ABC/LX, VOLT/LX does not intervene with charging in any way. VOLT/LX is a small TSR, less than 2200 bytes. There are a limited number of a printed User Guide, which were provided to customers who purchased this product in the past. If you are interested in this one page, two-sided printed manual, please send an email to info@dasoft.com for details. Thank you. Avi Meshar Andreas Garzotto D&A Software D&A Software ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:41:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Thomas G. Hess" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Thomas G. Hess" Subject: Software for Sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am cleaning out the closets. So I have various software items for sale.= Please contact me off list. = Terms are price marked + shipping. = If the item is on 5.25 inch diskettes I'll provide a zipped file or 3.5 inch diskettes in addition = (I can get rid of those AOL diskettes too.) These programs should work on a HP200. Shipping will be the cost of the method of your choice. Better Working Eight-in-One from Spinnaker, 5.25 in diskettes, Complete = in original box. $10.00 WordPerfect 5.1, 5.25 in diskettes, complete in original box, $25.00 WordPerfect 5.1, manual only no diskettes , in original box, $5.00 WordPerfect Library, Version 2.0, documentation only, no diskettes, Documentation covers Shell, Calculator, file manager, Calendar, Macro/Program Editors, Notebook, $5.00 Key CAD Complete and Key Calendar Plus from Softkey, documentation and 3.= 5 in diskettes, $10.00 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:22:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , bobv Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bobv Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Couldn't this drive be used in the doubleslot adapter along with an external power source? Bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:56:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: blessed event Comments: cc: henry@ioa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tonight at 10:32 p.m. the first Torx screw was removed from the 100LX case, using a "just right" flat-blade jeweler's screwdriver (maybe I'll get a T6 Torx sometime!). I didn't have to remove the rubber "foot"--it was gone already! (Source?) Thanks to Mark Willis for the complete instructions and to Al Kind for the cable help--also to everyone else who has shared thoughts or offered advice. I've been involved with the railroad mailing list, the IBM PS/2 newsgroup, and the stereo photography mailing list. All have been good, but this is the best! And has to be, since the 100LX/200LX are the greatest computers ever produced! I only wish I had gotten one a long time ago! I'll let you know how the teardown proceeds! Mark Shields /\_/\ ( 0 0 ) ==¬== ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 23:01:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eric Greenspoon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Greenspoon Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 In-Reply-To: <3950ED78.8392.EAD43@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >A CFII card is the same thickness as a type II pcmcia card. Not true. >Even though it is a type II adaptor there may still be issues with the fit in the 200lx since it only has one slot, someone >would have to try one out to be sure but technically it should fit. I tried it. It doesn't fit unfortunately. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:48:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ray.simons@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ray Simons Subject: Re: Fwd: SRAM Card help Comments: To: rwilliams@RWILLIAMS.WOW.AUST.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What you need is MTSRAM.EXE from SystemSoft. It is a part of their CardWizard pc card utility. I found the manual but have been unable to locate the disk(s) or I would have just forwarded to you. http://www.systemsoft.com Ray On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:23:35 -0400 Frank Williams writes: > --- begin of forwarded message --- > > Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:24:34 -0400 > To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > From: rwilliams@rwilliams.wow.aust.com (Frank Williams) > > Subscriber Comments: Help, > > Using My SRAM PCMCIA card in my new W98 notebook will not see it as > an > extra deive so I can access the files (my old dos 6.2) notebook did? > > W98 ids the Card as a SRAM but allows no access. > > How do I get access to the SRAM card as a seperate directory? > > Can anyone help, Thanks... Frank > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > --- end of forwarded message --- > * > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Ray Simons 6263 Rockland Road Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 Phone: 678-580-2540 Fax: 678-580-2520 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:20:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terry Owen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Owen Subject: Re: Text-based surfing of Juno etc. (Was:Re: 100LX success) In-Reply-To: <002101bfdb8f$c47d1040$e810f4d0@beld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" GEnie was my first online service - ah, the days of 4.95/mo unlimted access after 6:00 pm. For 3 years it was my link to the world. When GE sold it, the service went downhill faster than anything I've ever seen. But in its prime, for Sci-Fi fans or beginning writers it was second only to CIS and even that was debatable. Terry Owen At 10:48 AM 06/21/2000 -0400, Ken London wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "James Henry" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 8:06 AM >Subject: Re: Text-based surfing of Juno etc. (Was:Re: 100LX success) > >I'm very happy that GENIE is gone. It was a very poorly run service with no >redeeming qualities. About equal to America on Hold. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:05:29 +0800 Reply-To: LEONG FOO TEK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LEONG FOO TEK Subject: ACAD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Can our trusty 200LX configured to run AutoCAD? Which version works best and what screen configuration is being used? Thanks. With best regards, Leong ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:38:38 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The conclusion is academic if the LX doesn't supply enough power. But in regards to the fit .... it looks like the slot contraints are nothing more than the plastic that lines/defines the slot opening. If (BIG if) the drive were able to run off the LX slot power, wouldn't it just be a matter of filing or shaving the plastic to make it a wee bit larger? Hey, David Sargeant's drilled holes in his LX for a speaker jack ... so enlarging the PC slot shouldn't be too extreme . And Hal's got all those spare LX's he can practice with. - Longden Eric Greenspoon on 06/21/2000 08:01:00 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Eric Greenspoon To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 >A CFII card is the same thickness as a type II pcmcia card. Not true. >Even though it is a type II adaptor there may still be issues with the fit in the 200lx since it only has one slot, someone >would have to try one out to be sure but technically it should fit. I tried it. It doesn't fit unfortunately. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 01:56:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <88256904.0051E191.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Of the ones I'm considering, the Olympus is the only one to use >smart-media, and I was looking to see if the smart-media card could >be pressed to do extra work (file exchange) which would add a plus >to the camera. As I mentioned, I >sometimes connect my omnibook laptop or LX to a variety of desktops >(3 at home, 2 at work, and several relatives/friends home >computers), and getting a CF reader for all of them isn't practical. Well, Smart Media in a PC-card adapter is as functional as a standard ATA flash PC card or a Compact Flash in a PC-card adapter. But I agree that carrying a card reader around for the different desktop machines would be a bit clunky.... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 06:19:21 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , GWilson241@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Gordon H. Wilson" Subject: Re: Software for Sale Comments: To: TGHess@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am interested in the software. Please provide details. Thank you. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:34:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: BBS Software 200LX In-Reply-To: <44.4cd2ce9.26834229@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have TBBS 2.2 singleline by esoft ? Id like to run a bbs on my 200LX !!! The software is coded in ASM so it's small and low overhead!! i have the 2, 4, 16, 32 line versions which can also run on the 200LX but whats the point since it doesnt have multiserial ports If anyone has the 2.2 Singleline version please let me know i'll trade or buy it (trade my multiline versions) and for those who never heard of it, the size of the whole bbs package for a fully running 16line/node bbs system takes up under 1meg of disk space isnt ASM coded programs great!! esoft no longer supports any of there TBBS line (Since bbs'es died they dropped all selling/support basiclly) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 06:36:25 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: fluffy nuggets MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - Longden writes: Besides ... it usually turns out that the best little nuggets of information are buried in random notes in otherwise dense off-topic threads on this list. ah, the spice of life ;) apart from the technical (very useful) stuff, i am interested in what people use their LXs for. Hobchi has done some good work on making his databases available. I wished there was a database on the Super site just for text files of members masterpieces, like the Gutenberg library on the Thaddeus CD (as if i had time to read :)) little nugget... All computers wait at the same speed All humans are subject to decay All I ask is to prove that money can't make me happy All warranties expire upon payment of this invoice. All general statements are false, except this one ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 07:06:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, as it turns out, my son was visiting the other day and mentioned that he had both the smartmedia camera (Olympus 460?) and the flashpath, and it turns out that he already uses the flashpath in the way I envisioned (a gene off the old chromosome ). He always packs a thin floppy disk carrier with the flashpath floppy adapter and the smartmedia card, plus one other floppy with the Win95 driver for enabling the flashpath. Apparently, the driver is just run as an app, and does not need to be loaded during system bootup. With this arrangement, he's able to transfer/display data/photos on almost anyone's desktop, even without bringing along his camera or computer. If I had a camera that used smartmedia (I'm still deciding ... torn between Canon S10, Nikon 800, Olympus C-2020), I'd buy an extra 64mb smartmedia card, the floppy adapter, and the PCMCIA adapter and use that as my "data shuttle" between a motley assortment of desktops ... since the floppy drive(s) are usually the most accessible data port (and use the PCMCIA adapter for the LX and Omnibook). Not a cheap solution, but easier than lugging around cables, trying to get to buried serial ports or trying to convince someone to let me install Zip or Superdisk drivers on their system boot files ... or packing a CF reader (USB or serial) + drivers. A Rube Goldberg version of a Zip disk, but one that should work on any PC armed with a floppy drive, when I need to transport up to 64mb of data. If I ever find a cheap Olympus C-2020, I'll have the opportunity to test this all out! Thanks. - Longden Jim Saklad on 06/21/2000 10:56:44 PM To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle cc: Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Flash and Smart Media >Of the ones I'm considering, the Olympus is the only one to use >smart-media, and I was looking to see if the smart-media card could >be pressed to do extra work (file exchange) which would add a plus >to the camera. As I mentioned, I >sometimes connect my omnibook laptop or LX to a variety of desktops >(3 at home, 2 at work, and several relatives/friends home >computers), and getting a CF reader for all of them isn't practical. Well, Smart Media in a PC-card adapter is as functional as a standard ATA flash PC card or a Compact Flash in a PC-card adapter. But I agree that carrying a card reader around for the different desktop machines would be a bit clunky.... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:03:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: VOLT/LX is now Copyrighted Freeware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I would like to publicly thank you guys for providing most excellent software, both free and pay-per... when will www/lx become freeware? (Just kidding..;¬> ) >-----Original Message----- >From: A Meshar Ýmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨ >Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 9:29 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ VOLT/LX is now Copyrighted Freeware > > >Today, June 21 2000 D&A Software released VOLT/LX as >copyrighted freeware. It is available for downloading on D&A >Software's Webpage at http://www.dasoft.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:44:34 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Geert van Wirdum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Geert van Wirdum Subject: Re: Receive attachment in Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > How do I receive an attachment of an email in Post/LX? Just in case you forgot the basics: detaching is not automatic AFAIK. Did you use Menu, File, Save Attachment in Post/LX? This will pop up a message screen where you can see (and change, if you want) the file name and location. Certain Windows file names must be changed in order to be able to save the attachments. I use this all the time and never had problems. Geert. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:26:11 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Receive attachment in Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Geert, > > How do I receive an attachment of an email in Post/LX? > > Just in case you forgot the basics: detaching is not automatic AFAIK. > Did you use Menu, File, Save Attachment in Post/LX? This will pop up a > message screen where you can see (and change, if you want) the file > name and location. Certain Windows file names must be changed in order > to be able to save the attachments. I use this all the time and never > had problems. And what happens if you *only* want to read an attachment e.g. a Word attachment? In this case you don't have to save the attachment. For this purpose I use PNS200 which is available from ftp.dasoft.com. Additional you need an entry in the post.cfg within the ÝSYSTEM¨ section. ÝSYSTEM¨ ... PNS=3Dc:\bin\maxdos.com c:\bin\pns200.exe The above line is the entry in my post.cfg. I also use maxdos, which gives me plenty of memory to open and/or run the attachment. A powerful tool not only for FILER also for POST/LX. Try and enjoy it! Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 12:27:48 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Postlxerror:"No online program specified in Post.cfg?" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi It has been a while since I last set up Post/lx from scratch. I have set up my backupmachine now and I get the subject whenever I try to go online. If I disable the mailbox and just downloads news it works well. What have I missed? I do not think that have ever seen this error message before. I use 2.2g. See the post.cfg/www.cfg below. I run Post/lx from f:\progs\w and I connect via irda on a singlespeed Hplx. F: is a jamdrive on A flashdrive. I have approx 500kb free and I can download news just fine, but not mail. Please help. Could you also CC: my emailadress? TIA -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway Post.cfg: ÝFILTER¨ ÝMFILTER¨ ÝSYSTEM¨ Confirmation=0 Editor=t.exe $f EditSM=MEMO b800 c800 2166 0231 HangUp=1 TimeZone=+0200 Overlap=0 Quote=>_ ManualPack=0 Clog=1 TopLines=0 ZoomMode=1 LZoomMode=0 AllHeaders=0 ReFormat=1 NoQuote=0 Download=F:\ Japanese=0 Selected=Mail Init=1 ÝEXTERNAL¨ H&V (NO DISCONNECT)=HV $f ÝHEADERS¨ Cc:=Cc: Bcc:=Bcc: X-Priority:=X-Priority: Importance:=Importance: Sensitivity:=Sensitivity: Return-Receipt-To:=Return-Receipt-To: ÝWWW¨ ÝMail¨ Alias=Mail APOP=0 RPA=0 Timeout=60 Del=0 Sep=1 SMTP=REMOVED POP=REMOVED Dir=f:\progs\w Login=REMOVED Pass=REMOVED VolatilePOP=0 Signature=f:\usr\sig1.doc Wrote=%s skrev: ÝNEWS¨ Sep=0 Server=130.133.1.4 Organization=private MaxLines=200 DateMode=0 SelHeaders=1 ÝFOLDERS¨ Mail=X noitmob=N Ýnoitmob¨ Sep=0 Dir=f:\progs\w Group=no.it.telekom.mobil Alias=No.it.telekom.mobil Server=130.133.1.4 LastNr=11140 Signature=f:\usr\sig.doc Login=REMOVED Pass=REMOVED Wrote=%s skrev: Auth=1 --------Www.cfg-------- ÝGlobal¨ Command=f:\progs\w\post.EXE Cache=C:\_DAT\WWW.CAC Hosts=C:\_DAT\HOSTS Setup=ISP_PPP UserName=REMOVED RegID=REMOVED ÝSetup¨ ISP_PPP=Tele2 ÝScript¨ CHAP_Script=PPP dial up using CHAP or PAP ÝISP_PPP¨ Port=-1 Baud=19200 Modem=1 PPP=1 Login=REMOVED Password=REMOVED ModemInit=ATZ Dial=ATDTREMOVED DNS_IP=REMOVED DNS2_IP=REMOVED Script=CHAP_Script OmniGo=0 My_IP=0.0.0.0 ÝCHAP_Script¨ ÝSNIPPED¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:18:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those interested, I have a lead on 64MB Smart Media. He is really nice and ship fast and with insurance. Only problem I see is that he ships the card in a small regular padded envelope. But I've received both a 64MB and 2 x 32MB and they were all working fine. The 64MB was 100+5$shipping and the 32MB were 50+5$ shipping. His email address: PLYTEK@aol.com Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Longden Loo" To: Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 7:06 AM Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media > Well, as it turns out, my son was visiting the other day and mentioned that he > had both the smartmedia camera (Olympus 460?) and the flashpath, and it turns > out that he already uses the flashpath in the way I envisioned (a gene off the > old chromosome ). > > He always packs a thin floppy disk carrier with the flashpath floppy adapter and > the smartmedia card, plus one other floppy with the Win95 driver for enabling > the flashpath. Apparently, the driver is just run as an app, and does not need > to be loaded during system bootup. With this arrangement, he's able to > transfer/display data/photos on almost anyone's desktop, even without bringing > along his camera or computer. > > If I had a camera that used smartmedia (I'm still deciding ... torn between > Canon S10, Nikon 800, Olympus C-2020), I'd buy an extra 64mb smartmedia card, > the floppy adapter, and the PCMCIA adapter and use that as my "data shuttle" > between a motley assortment of desktops ... since the floppy drive(s) are > usually the most accessible data port (and use the PCMCIA adapter for the LX and > Omnibook). > > Not a cheap solution, but easier than lugging around cables, trying to get to > buried serial ports or trying to convince someone to let me install Zip or > Superdisk drivers on their system boot files ... or packing a CF reader (USB or > serial) + drivers. A Rube Goldberg version of a Zip disk, but one that should > work on any PC armed with a floppy drive, when I need to transport up to 64mb of > data. If I ever find a cheap Olympus C-2020, I'll have the opportunity to test > this all out! Thanks. > > - Longden > > > > > > Jim Saklad on 06/21/2000 10:56:44 PM > > To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden > Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle > cc: > Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Flash and Smart Media > > > > >Of the ones I'm considering, the Olympus is the only one to use > >smart-media, and I was looking to see if the smart-media card could > >be pressed to do extra work (file exchange) which would add a plus > >to the camera. As I mentioned, I > >sometimes connect my omnibook laptop or LX to a variety of desktops > >(3 at home, 2 at work, and several relatives/friends home > >computers), and getting a CF reader for all of them isn't practical. > > Well, Smart Media in a PC-card adapter is as functional as a standard > ATA flash PC card or a Compact Flash in a PC-card adapter. But I > agree that carrying a card reader around for the different desktop > machines would be a bit clunky.... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 02:52:49 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paul Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Johnson Subject: Re: 200lx Connectivity Pack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit D Dv wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:03:43 -0400 Ed Padin writes: > > I have a few questions about the 200LX connectivity pack: > > > > Just how much does it emulate the 200LX? It seems to run some .exm > > files and there's an x-finder version for it. Do other .exms work as > well? > > I did not know that and have not tried it. > > > What's the story on getting ti to work on a CGA screen? It it > > possible? Can it run on an HP100CX or a XT type machine like the Poqet > or ZEOS? > > A japanese user reported using it on the HP1000CX, by REMing cg.exe out > of the .bat > file. I don't believe it will work on an XT type machine, as the progam > ciaims to need > a 286 (which as we know often works on the hplx family, but not on an > XT). > > Domingo > I just tried this out. I installed cpack on my desktop computer in a new directory (cpack) on the C drive, so that when the whole directory was moved to the 200LXs C drive it should work properly. When going through the install I elected not to set any of the com port settings just in case this screwed things up. On the palmtop I REMed out the 2 mentions of cg.com in app200.bat. I exited from the app manager ( MENU A T ) and ran app200.bat. The Application Manager screen of cpack came up. I was particularly interested in getting the Xlate/Merge to work, as I was hoping to be able to synchronise database files without having to involve the desktop computer. Xlate/Merge started and it was possible to edit all the settings to point to the right files etc. However when trying to run a task the screen just blinks once. No messages come up. After exiting ( ALT Q ) a message came up that there wasn't enough memory to run an application. It hadn't crashed, I could still enter other applications. A brief look at the phonebook showed a few quirks. When cursoring down the list of names and numbers, they get marked with a diamond as if they are being selected. The number keys also function as cursor keys with the same result. I think a read of the 200lx manual may needed, (How to Execute IBM numeric keypad keys, page 25-15, looks promising) The filer appears to function normally. Thats all I've had time to check out so far. Paul Johnson. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:32:31 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: MIDI and LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, some time ago, here on the list someone reported that he can use his LX to control a MIDI expander. Could this person please email me privately? I'm especially interested in how to get the program "Cakewalk" (the version that runs on the LX and the driver needed for serial port MIDI). Thanks daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:50:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Harry Wellner Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harry Wellner Subject: PC-CARD modem refuses to work MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anyone, If someone wants to revert please do. I have two identical PC-CARD modems. One is still working as it should be. But after setting OFF the HP200, inserting the card and powering the machine again the HP200 is refusing. Only Ctrl+Shift+Off/On combination is the alternative. Anyone idea what is wrong with the Card ? The HP200 has serious problems when using it..... __________________________________________ o__ Harry Wellner _.>/)_ Gouda - Netherlands / Europe (_) \(_) Palmtop Power!--This email composed on a rugged HP200LX that fits in your pocket! Med vennlig hilsen / Regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Met vriendelijke groeten ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 12:42:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: PC-CARD modem refuses to work MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:50:22 -0400, Harry Wellner wrote: > Anyone idea what is wrong with the Card ? The HP200 has > serious problems when using it..... Sounds like it's trashed to me. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:59:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eric Greenspoon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Greenspoon Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 In-Reply-To: <88256906.001F1CCA.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >The conclusion is academic if the LX doesn't supply enough power. But in >regards to the fit .... it looks like the slot contraints are nothing more than >the plastic that lines/defines the slot opening. If (BIG if) the drive were >able to run off the LX slot power, wouldn't it just be a matter of filing or >shaving the plastic to make it a wee bit larger? Yup, that should do the trick. The connectors would fit, that's for sure. -Eric ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:12:12 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 Comments: To: Eric Greenspoon In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.20000621232242.2e971208@toronto.enoreo.on.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 21 Jun 2000, at 23:01, Eric Greenspoon wrote: > >A CFII card is the same thickness as a type II pcmcia card. > > Not true. > > Well lets put it this way, I OWN two CFII cards and they are EXACTLY the same thickness as the type II adaptor that they came with. Pete > >Even though it is a type II adaptor there may still be issues with the fit > in the 200lx since it only has one slot, someone > >would have to try one out to be sure but technically it should fit. > > I tried it. It doesn't fit unfortunately. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:33:47 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ahzilly@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Postlxerror:"No online program specified in Post.cfg?" Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:25:48 +0100 (BST) 03h57m60s ago ... On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 12:27:48 -0400, Martin Bergvill wrote: > ÝFOLDERS¨ > Mail=3DX Should be Mail=3DE When POST/LX sees Mail=3DX selected for visit it looks for a line like ExtProg=3DROBOT.EXE "CIS.SCR" in the ÝSYSTEM¨ section. It complains if there is no ExtProg. There was a problem with "Mail=3DX" hapening automatically when a mailbox was empty. This is fixed in the latest available POST.EXE at DAsoft. I suggest you get that and then exit from POST/LX delete any mail.i1, mail.i2, mail.01 mail.o2 edit POST.CFG and put Mail=3DE instead of Mail=3DX restart POST/LX exit POST/LX and check that Mail=3DE is still there. You should be Ok to go online now. Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:40:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Postlxerror:"No online program specified in Post.cfg?" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:33:47 +0100, Tony Hutchins wrote: > Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:25:48 +0100 (BST) > > 03h57m60s ago ... > On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 12:27:48 -0400, Martin Bergvill wrote: > > > ÝFOLDERS¨ > > Mail=X > > Should be Mail=E Yes I watched this change from E to X all the time.. > When POST/LX sees Mail=X selected for visit it looks for > > a line like > > ExtProg=ROBOT.EXE "CIS.SCR" Okey > in the ÝSYSTEM¨ section. It complains if there is no ExtProg. > > There was a problem with "Mail=X" hapening automatically when a mailbox > was empty. This is fixed in the latest available POST.EXE at DAsoft. > I suggest you get that and then > > exit from POST/LX > delete any mail.i1, mail.i2, mail.01 mail.o2 > edit POST.CFG and put Mail=E instead of Mail=X > restart POST/LX > exit POST/LX and check that Mail=E is still there. > You should be Ok to go online now. I thought it was the latest version that I ran. I have to check.. Thanks..I was almost losing my mind..Have heard about the above problem..but forgotten it.. Thanks -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:30:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eric Greenspoon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Greenspoon Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 In-Reply-To: <39523ADC.23067.4505E@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >A CFII card is the same thickness as a type II pcmcia card. >> >> Not true. > >Well lets put it this way, I OWN two CFII cards and they are EXACTLY the same thickness as the type II adaptor that they >came with. Yes you are right. I have to correct myself. I tried to fit my CFII card into my HP 200LX a couple of months ago and didn't remember exactly what transpired. I just tried it again now. Here's what happened. Yes, it just clears the slot like a PCMCIA Type II card, but it needs an adapter to reach all the way to the back of the slot and also to remove it once it has been inserted. There's a dip in the CFI-PCMCIA adapter that tries to mimic the dip in a PCMCIA Type II card at the bottom. This millimeter or so prevents the CFII from slipping into the 200LX. Maybe a proper adapter would work but there is not much room to play with. I took a CFI adapter and removed the top so that my CFII would work with it. -Eric ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:04:10 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 Comments: To: Eric Greenspoon In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.20000622225418.32afeab8@toronto.enoreo.on.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 22 Jun 2000, at 22:30, Eric Greenspoon wrote: > Yes you are right. I have to correct myself. I tried to fit my CFII card > into my HP 200LX a couple of months ago and didn't remember exactly what > transpired. > I just tried it again now. Here's what happened. Yes, it just clears the > slot like a PCMCIA Type II card, but it needs an adapter to reach all the > way to the back of the slot and also to remove it once it has been inserted. > There's a dip in the CFI-PCMCIA adapter that tries to mimic the dip in a > PCMCIA Type II card at the bottom. This millimeter or so prevents the CFII > from slipping into the 200LX. Maybe a proper adapter would work but there > is not much room to play with. > I took a CFI adapter and removed the top so that my CFII would work with it. > > -Eric CFII to pcmcia adaptors are not quite the same as a CFI adaptor with the top removed. It may be that the CFI adaptor has the CF socket a little two close to center. Remember the pcmcia standard allows the cards to get bigger on one side, not both, so I would imagine that the proper adaptor would have the CF socket off center to allow for that. I will have to take a look at both a CFI and CFII adaptor when I get home tonight. I don't have a microdrive but I do have two CFII I/O cards with adaptors and lots of CFI cards and adaptors. Maybe I will even get energetic and try one in the 200lx. :-) Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:19:03 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All issues regarding CF-II and 1 gig Microdrives, and SmartMedia cards are history for me, now that I've gotten a Canon A50 camera. On a tip from my brother, I stopped at a local Office Max (don't know how well distributed they are outside of California) and found a Canon S10 at the usual $499 price, and the A50 was marked down to $199. I bought the last one in the store (aside from the display, which had a crooked lens cover). So if any of you are looking for a cheap digital camera, and happen to live near an Office Max, you might want to check them out. The A50 is the predecessor to the S10 and sports only 1.3 megpixels and only a CF-I slot (no 1gig Microdrive for me), but looks like a really robust unit. Heck, I even have change left over to buy another camera . About time too. I was getting really bugged by the low price domination of the CNET listings by New York camera distributors who routinely posted items "in stock" both in CNET and on their web pages. Past experience thru camera mail-order led me to make some phone calls and ** not one ** of the low-ball distributors had stock (Olympus C-2020). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:33:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Backlight Alternatives Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Note that, in response to a question from Fred, Hal said that the backlight does not provide much illumination for the keyboard either. As for the "circle of light". A linear array of low power LEDs could provide much more uniform illumination of our rectangular screen and keyboard. Vic On 18 Jun 2000, Bob Christopher wrote: > I have followed the ups and downs of the backlighting project as > have the rest of you. I have been testing a a few alternatives > to the actual backlighting using tiny pen flashlights and assorted > other illuminators. The problem with nearly all of them is that > they illuminate a cirlce on the screen and seldom cast enough > light to illuminate the keyboard. Ýsnip¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:33:55 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Microwaving metal Comments: To: Mark Willis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 17 Jun 2000, Mark Willis wrote: > For giggles: http://www.cornwell.demon.co.uk/micro1.htm - "Melting > metal in a domestic microwave". How to use a spare microwave (slightly > modified) as a smelting tool for up to 250g of bronze, silver, white > metal, or iron... (They use a carbon heat absorber, sorta like that > Burrito was after the fire!? Then some magnetite sand stucco, > semi-involved, interesting to know it can be done!) With all this talk about the bad effects of placing metal In your microwave ovens, I think everyone should know that you already have metal in every microwave oven. The walls of the oven cavity are metal, as they must be to establish the resonant cavity. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:00:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Colin Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max In-Reply-To: <88256907.0012E96D.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah, the camera blessed by Avi. Nice pic! -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Longden Loo All issues regarding CF-II and 1 gig Microdrives, and SmartMedia cards are history for me, now that I've gotten a Canon A50 camera. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:21:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii At $199, it all but jumped into my arms . Colin Thompson on 06/22/2000 09:00:56 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Colin Thompson To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Ah, the camera blessed by Avi. Nice pic! -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Longden Loo All issues regarding CF-II and 1 gig Microdrives, and SmartMedia cards are history for me, now that I've gotten a Canon A50 camera. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 07:32:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "McAllaster, Douglas L. LTC" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "McAllaster, Douglas L. LTC" Subject: OT: Direct Cable Connection I've failed to connect my two desktop Win95 PCs via above method. I think I have all the protocols & bindings, host & guest settings correct. I'd like to mail the cable I'm using to someone to confirm that my cable is OK. I will also provide return postage. Thx, Dpig LTC Doug McAllaster McAllasterD@Lee.Army.Mil ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 08:30:05 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TheOpr@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kat Deutscher Subject: Re: 200lx Connectivity Pack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/22/00 11:54:44 AM Central Daylight Time, paulj@SILCHIP.COM.AU writes: > I installed cpack on my desktop computer in a > new directory (cpack) on the C drive > On the palmtop I REMed out the 2 mentions of cg.com in app200.bat. > > I exited from the app manager ( MENU A T ) and ran app200.bat. > > A brief look at the phonebook showed a few quirks. When cursoring down > the list of names and numbers, they get marked with a diamond as if > they are being selected. The number keys also function as cursor keys > with the same result. I think a read of the 200lx manual may needed, > (How to Execute IBM numeric keypad keys, page 25-15, looks promising) > This is pretty much what happens when I run cpack on a WinCE device under pocketdos. I can view datacards in the address book, but any attempt to open or edit a record causes the program to terminate. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:41:14 +0200 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: OT: Direct Cable Connection Comments: To: "McAllaster, Douglas L. LTC" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- >.......to confirm that my cable is > OK. Is it a crossover cable? Short opf sending it to anyone, there is a good description on how the wiring should go, and you can easily verify for yourself that any pin is going to the correct one on the other end. See http://www.wown.com If you think sendfing the cable is the only way, and nobody closser volunteers, I will. But I'm on the other side of the Atlantic... Etienne ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 16:15:01 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: ANN: PDU Version 1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G=FCnther Eisele wrote: > > Similar applies to CB (Cell Broadcast) messages. > > My provider uses this to show you which area codes you could dial to = pay > just short distance calls. Normally, the area code of the city you're > currently in is shown. > > Stefan, you have the provider Viag Interkom. Do they provide you with = this > area code information... No, Viag uses CB channel 221 to constantly transmit the coordinates of the base station (BST), where you are booked in. The coordinates are in Gauss-Kr=FCger notation. The offical German topographic maps use this notation and some city maps too. You can easily find all BSTs in your region with this information and it is also a poor man's GPS, because BSTs exist about every square mile. So you always know, in which square mile of Germany you are at the moment. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:15:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: OT: Direct Cable Connection Comments: To: "McAllaster, Douglas L. LTC" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "McAllaster, Douglas L. LTC" wrote: > > I've failed to connect my two desktop Win95 PCs via above method. > I think I have all the protocols & bindings, host & guest settings correct. > I'd like to mail the cable I'm using to someone to confirm that my cable is > OK. > I will also provide return postage. > Thx, Dpig > > LTC Doug McAllaster > McAllasterD@Lee.Army.Mil > I assume that you are attempting a direct cable connection via parallel or serial ports. If that isn't the case then the rest of my response may be irrelevant. (1) It is unlikely that it is the cable unless the cable has been through hell, except as already mentioned (i.e. it may not be a cross-over cable); (2) It is a passive cable, so a simple continuity tester (i.e. battery + bulb) would let you test the end-end connectivity to make sure the pins on one end `talk' to the pins on the other end. This would be both more reliable and less trouble than shipping the cable to someone for an unreliable test (I say unreliable only in that if you get back a `no' from the tester, it may be because _the tester_ screwed up the test). You may have done this before (if so I missed it) but it might be useful to say a word or two about what you are actually trying to do (i.e. what hardware you are attempting to connect). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:16:48 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: VOLT/LX is now Copyrighted Freeware Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ed Padin wrote: > I would like to publicly thank you guys for providing most excellent > software, both free and pay-per... when will www/lx become freeware? (Just > kidding..;¬> ) Glad you like what we do. As for WWW/LX as freeware - Nah! :-) ... And speaking of WWW/LX - keep your ears open. I am not saying any more :-) ... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:16:55 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Receive attachment in Post/LX Comments: To: Geert van Wirdum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Geert van Wirdum wrote: > > How do I receive an attachment of an email in Post/LX? > > Just in case you forgot the basics: detaching is not automatic AFAIK. > Did you use Menu, File, Save Attachment in Post/LX? This will pop up a > message screen where you can see (and change, if you want) the file > name and location. Certain Windows file names must be changed in order > to be able to save the attachments. I use this all the time and never > had problems. Yes, this is right... It is not automatic. You must press CTRL-M (or use the path you showed!) to EXTRACT the attachment from the message. The popup window prompting for the file name and location pops after the extraction process. This is in the Help Screens of Post/LX... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:17:02 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden Loo wrote: > CF-II is 5mm vs 3.3mm for Type-1. I don't know, but I'm guessing that CF-II is > comparable in thickness to PCMCIA Type-II (anyone know this?) I think it is... Problem you may have is the PCMCIA adapter for it. > And I also don't know if they make a PCMCIA adapter for the CF-II cards. Bingo! I do not know either... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:17:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: External speaker jack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden Loo wrote: > Hey, David Sargeant's drilled holes in his LX for a speaker jack What? Really? I want to know more... Ah, yes I see the special projects on HPLX,NET... I wonder if using external speaker (earplugs) will improve the sound quality produced by some software that can process WAV files, for example... The reason is that I can then literally make my palmtop receive voice mail messages. I can make my answering machine send me voice mails as a WAV attachment to an email. If the quality is good enough, I could listen to the messages... Hmmm... I tried this before but the speaker on the palmtop is really terrible, and did not produce good enough results to be useful. Tha WAV file was fine, I heard it clearly on the notebook. Oh, no! A new peoject :-) ... It'll have to wait until after the July 1 event! :-) ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:42:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Random stuff... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Hi gang - To go back to a couple of items discussed earlier --- Re. Kodak 1600 mAHr NiMH cells - These just showed up in a local CompUSA. Also a charger/4 cell combo (for some reason the batteries with this are only 1450 mAHr). Has anyone been running the Kodak 1600s long enough to tell how they compare with other brands for self-discharge and general usable hours in the LX? Someone, I forgot who (senior moments...) mentioned using the RS flourescent Pocket Flashlight to front-light the LX. Hung it on a cord from his neck. I picked one up, and tried it. I often use my LX lying on a couch (I'm a lazy ol' coot), so simply propped the light under my chin. VERY bright light! -- Works quite nicely to illuminate both the LX screen & keyboard. I've only used it occasionally, but with the flourescent tube rated at 5W and using 2 AA cells, it probably has pretty short battery life. Later, Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:02:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Small BBS package MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<<<< and for those who never heard of it, the size of the whole bbs package for a fully running 16line/node bbs system takes up under 1meg of disk space isnt ASM coded programs great!!>>>>> Back in the says when hard drives were expensive there were a lot of bbs systems that came on a 360k floppy and left enough room for data, in case the system didn't have 2 floppy drives. There were some much smaller than that. I don't remember the names of those bbs's. I was never into that, but some of my friends were so I've seen them and used them. I wouldn't be surprised if Simtel or Garbo had a few of these. If not, asking in alt.folklore.computers should turn up some. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 01:42:42 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: Dos based Email System In-Reply-To: <3950D589.24258.4FFE7FC@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Pegasus mail for dos work fine, but even you can read offline, it is not possible to write a message offline. A good avantage for pegasus is the possibility to exchange the data directory (or only one folder) from windows 3.11, NT, 9x with the dos version. Alain > I think that also Pegasus Mail for Dos should work. > http://www.pmail.com > > Al Wyn@comcen.com.au Sydney / Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:05:10 -0400 Reply-To: jhenry@comcastwork.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: Re: Dos based Email System Comments: To: Alain In-Reply-To: <39541212.9599.37D62E3@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another option is to just use a BBS that offers email. There are many still out there. I use 1ST Reader as my qwkmail program and do much of my email (along with qwkmail and newsgroups) through that and my BBS. Jim -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Alain Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 11:43 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Dos based Email System Pegasus mail for dos work fine, but even you can read offline, it is not possible to write a message offline. A good avantage for pegasus is the possibility to exchange the data directory (or only one folder) from windows 3.11, NT, 9x with the dos version. Alain > I think that also Pegasus Mail for Dos should work. > http://www.pmail.com > > Al Wyn@comcen.com.au Sydney / Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:13:47 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Dos based Email System In-Reply-To: <39541212.9599.37D62E3@localhost> from "Alain" at Jun 24, 2000 01:42:42 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > A good avantage for pegasus is the possibility to exchange the data > directory (or only one folder) from windows 3.11, NT, 9x with the dos version. We used to use PMAIL at my previous office. When we changed from the DOS version to the Windows one, there was some funny incompatibility between the two mail databases. Not that you couldn't open a mail folder with either program, but often the mail folder, especially when opened from the DOS client, would not sort properly. That was the only problem I remember, and it wasn't a showstopper - you could always go an open the folder from the Windows client and get a proper sorting. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:01:48 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: External speaker jack Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I wonder if using external speaker (earplugs) will improve the > sound quality produced by some software that can process WAV > files, for example... > > The reason is that I can then literally make my palmtop > receive voice mail messages. I can make my answering machine While I know you have pretty large flashcards, I noticed that wav files I created as simple "testing 1, 2, 3, testing" where VERY LARGE. I'd think a half minute of message would overwhelm your hp and possibly the mail itself as an attachment. (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:01:59 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Small BBS package Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > <<<<< and for those who never heard of it, the size of the whole bbs > package > for a fully running 16line/node bbs system takes up under 1meg of > disk > space isnt ASM coded programs great!!>>>>> > Back in the says when hard drives were expensive there were a lot of > bbs systems that came on a 360k floppy and left enough room for Minihost which was either free or shareware or both??? Was pretty tiny. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:11:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: External speaker jack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You're better off compressing the wave file to a low quality MP3... oh, wait, we can't use those can we? Isn't there another sound file type that works on the LX and is compressed? I think I remember a program that works like EVA does with AVI files. It will convert a .wav file to it's own format which is a lot smaller. >-----Original Message----- >From: F. Kaufman Ýmailto:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨ >Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 3:02 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ External speaker jack > > >> I wonder if using external speaker (earplugs) will improve the >> sound quality produced by some software that can process WAV >> files, for example... >> >> The reason is that I can then literally make my palmtop >> receive voice mail messages. I can make my answering machine > >While I know you have pretty large flashcards, I noticed that wav files >I created as simple "testing 1, 2, 3, testing" where VERY LARGE. I'd >think a half minute of message would overwhelm your hp and possibly the >mail itself as an attachment. (G) > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:44:59 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: BBS Software 200LX Comments: To: Sputnik MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You call 1 Meg small? I ran a single line Fido BBS on an IBM convertible (early laptop) which had 640k and 2 720k diskette drives. Fido ran well and left plenty of space for message and (limited) file areas. Cheers... Russ Sputnik wrote: > Does anyone have TBBS 2.2 singleline by esoft ? Id like to run a bbs on > my 200LX !!! > > The software is coded in ASM so it's small and low overhead!! i have the > 2, 4, 16, 32 line versions which can also run on the 200LX but whats the > point since it doesnt have multiserial ports > > and for those who never heard of it, the size of the whole bbs package > for a fully running 16line/node bbs system takes up under 1meg of disk > space isnt ASM coded programs great!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:54:18 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Buford Subject: FSB Comments: To: "Collin J. Howell" , Gordon Pierce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Question for users of Family Scrapbook on a 200lx. 1) I have not been able to contact the programer Chris Long to register this shareware. Does anyone know how to set the program so it does not do the "Evaluation copy" screens? 2)Is there an easy way to copy a person record from one database and paste it ito another? Thanks for any help Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:50:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: DacEasy software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I got some software and other stuff I wanna get rid of: soft: DacEasy S/W suite with Rolodex, checkbook accounting, spreadsheet and WP look here: http://freeshell.org/~epadin/pictures/dac.JPG I also got the following: Instant Recall memory resident PIM (notes, tasks, schedule) Learning MS DOS' by microsoft Lotus Freelance (tested on the LX. it works) hard: 2400 baud pocket battery powered modem Motorolla Cellect 14.4 pocket battery powered modem (Comes with cable for startac cell fone) I'll take $40+shipping for the lot. Anything less and it's just not worth my while to box it up and go to the post office. Note: software shipping will be expensive as the manuals are heavy. I'll probably throw out the software if nobody wants it. If you're willing to pick software up in NYC you can have it free. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:54:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: ANN: PDU Version 1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 16:15:01 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > You can easily find all BSTs in your region with this > information and it is also a poor man's GPS, because BSTs > exist about every square mile. So you always know, in which > square mile of Germany you are at the moment. You have a 8210. You can enable Netmonitor on this phone and scroll through a lot of menues with info about what BST you are hooked to and also how strong it is and if there are any more around. A lot of useless info about the phone and the net. Actually only for phone technicians. You need Www.logomanager.co.uk and a laptop(irda) to enable this Netmonitor. Find more info about this on the Logomanager website. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:07:43 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <88256907.0012E96D.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have an A50 and rellay like it. Also, I bought it about 6-8 months ago for over $400 and that was the best price at the time, you got a great deal. Pete PS, if you do alot of picture taking at one time you can get the D cell battery pack from the canon eos and adapt it for use in the a50, S10 or S20 very easily. I have yet to use up the first set of D cells. A little bulky but it hooks on your belt so it isn't too bad and sure saves over the price of 2CR5 batteries. Also www.wholesaleadvantage.com has great prices on 2CR5 batteries, $4.92 each last time I looked with reasonable shipping. On 22 Jun 2000, at 20:19, Longden Loo wrote: > All issues regarding CF-II and 1 gig Microdrives, and SmartMedia cards are > history for me, now that I've gotten a Canon A50 camera. > > On a tip from my brother, I stopped at a local Office Max (don't know how well > distributed they are outside of California) and found a Canon S10 at the usual > $499 price, and the A50 was marked down to $199. I bought the last one in the > store (aside from the display, which had a crooked lens cover). > > So if any of you are looking for a cheap digital camera, and happen to live near > an Office Max, you might want to check them out. The A50 is the predecessor to > the S10 and sports only 1.3 megpixels and only a CF-I slot (no 1gig Microdrive > for me), but looks like a really robust unit. Heck, I even have change left > over to buy another camera . > > About time too. I was getting really bugged by the low price domination of the > CNET listings by New York camera distributors who routinely posted items "in > stock" both in CNET and on their web pages. Past experience thru camera > mail-order led me to make some phone calls and ** not one ** of the low-ball > distributors had stock (Olympus C-2020). > > - Longden > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:09:18 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET In-Reply-To: <200006231417.KAA13097@sphmraaa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Yes they do make an adaptor and you can buy the microdrive with it for a little more money. Pete On 23 Jun 2000, at 10:17, A Meshar wrote: > Longden Loo wrote: > > CF-II is 5mm vs 3.3mm for Type-1. I don't know, but I'm guessing that CF-II is > > comparable in thickness to PCMCIA Type-II (anyone know this?) > > I think it is... > > Problem you may have is the PCMCIA adapter for it. > > > And I also don't know if they make a PCMCIA adapter for the CF-II cards. > > Bingo! I do not know either... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:18:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: DacEasy software Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Padin" To: Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 5:50 PM Subject: DacEasy software > Hi, > > I got some software and other stuff I wanna get rid of: > > soft: > DacEasy S/W suite with Rolodex, checkbook accounting, spreadsheet and WP > look here: http://freeshell.org/~epadin/pictures/dac.JPG > I also got the following: > Instant Recall memory resident PIM (notes, tasks, schedule) > Learning MS DOS' by microsoft > Lotus Freelance (tested on the LX. it works) > > > hard: > 2400 baud pocket battery powered modem > Motorolla Cellect 14.4 pocket battery powered modem (Comes with cable for > startac cell fone) > > > I'll take $40+shipping for the lot. Anything less and it's just not worth my > while to box it up and go to the post office. > > Note: software shipping will be expensive as the manuals are heavy. > > I'll probably throw out the software if nobody wants it. If you're willing > to pick software up in NYC you can have it free. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > A word of warning....after January 1, 2000 I could not get Dac Easy Accounting to work in any capacity on any machine. I'm not sure what version it was...but it was pre windows. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:29:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: DacEasy software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ach! The damned Y2K bug again... Awright, nevermind. It's in the trash! > > >> Hi, >> >> I got some software and other stuff I wanna get rid of: >> >> soft: >> DacEasy S/W suite with Rolodex, checkbook accounting, >spreadsheet and WP >> look here: http://freeshell.org/~epadin/pictures/dac.JPG snipt > > >A word of warning....after January 1, 2000 I could not get Dac Easy >Accounting to work in any capacity on any machine. >I'm not sure what version it was...but it was pre windows. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:53:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavalier Leonard W CRBE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cavalier Leonard W CRBE Subject: Re: Here's an interesting looking palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I saw one of these in CompUSA the other day. Cute, but not very practical in my view. Have you seen the keys on those things? They are very tiny and so closely spaced that even little children would have trouble with them. The keys seem OK for an occasional single press in response to a question, but this is billed as a communicator! I predict doom for this device as soon as the novelty wears off. - Leonard W. Cavalier cavalierlw@nswccd.navy.mil -----Original Message----- From: Ed Padin Ýmailto:epadin@WAGWEB.COM¨ Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:19 PM Subject: Here's an interesting looking palmtop This looks like an interesting unit. It's got RF wireless. It kinda looks like a cross between an HP95 and.... a gameboy. http://cybiko.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:20:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Colin Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 In-Reply-To: <3953A7CE.21792.9F987@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know what some of you have been smoking! Just tried a Microdrive with supplied adapter in my 200LX. No problem with the fit but it was not recognized by the LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:20:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Colin Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max In-Reply-To: <3953A76F.5410.888FF@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do yourself a big favor and by a the nicad charger and an extra battery. My wife and I each have two batteries and we share one charger. We have yet to run out of juice. PS, if you do alot of picture taking at one time you can get the D cell battery pack from the canon eos and adapt it for use in the a50, S10 or S20 very easily. I have yet to use up the first set of D cells. A little bulky but it hooks on your belt so it isn't too bad and sure saves over the price of 2CR5 batteries. Also www.wholesaleadvantage.com has great prices on 2CR5 batteries, $4.92 each last time I looked with reasonable shipping. Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:52:30 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii As a matter of fact, Egghead just emailed me that my order for the charger+NiMH battery has just shipped. I tried to order a spare NiMH battery, but all the places that had the battery was out of the charger, and vice-versa. I'll just have to pickup the spare battery later and eat the shipping cost then. I figure it'll be worthwhile especially if I move to the S10/S20 later, since they all use the same power source. - Longden Colin Thompson on 06/23/2000 05:20:44 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Colin Thompson To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Do yourself a big favor and by a the nicad charger and an extra battery. My wife and I each have two batteries and we share one charger. We have yet to run out of juice. << PS, if you do alot of picture taking at one time you can get the D cell battery pack from the canon eos and adapt it for use in the a50, S10 or S20 very easily. I have yet to use up the first set of D cells. A little bulky but it hooks on your belt so it isn't too bad and sure saves over the price of 2CR5 batteries. Also www.wholesaleadvantage.com has great prices on 2CR5 batteries, $4.92 each last time I looked with reasonable shipping. >> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:04:09 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 Comments: To: Colin Thompson In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT It takes too much power, I think. Also the people that said they might not fit may have been trying to use a CFI adaptor which is made differently than a CFII adaptor which has the CF socket offset to one side. Pete On 23 Jun 2000, at 17:20, Colin Thompson wrote: > I don't know what some of you have been smoking! Just tried a Microdrive > with supplied adapter in my 200LX. No problem with the fit but it was not > recognized by the LX. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:52:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Here's an interesting looking palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suspect there will be a revision that will expand the unit a bit (think RIM pager w/keyboard) and then they will be popular. Heck, they could make a lot of money with cheap wireless networking modules for conventional PDAs (WinCE/Palm/etc.)... Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cavalier Leonard W CRBE" To: Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 7:53 PM Subject: Re: Here's an interesting looking palmtop > I saw one of these in CompUSA the other day. Cute, but not very practical in my view. Have you seen the keys on those things? They are very tiny and so closely spaced that even little children would have trouble with them. The keys seem OK for an occasional single press in response to a question, but this is billed as a communicator! > > I predict doom for this device as soon as the novelty wears off. > > > - Leonard W. Cavalier > cavalierlw@nswccd.navy.mil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Padin Ýmailto:epadin@WAGWEB.COM¨ > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:19 PM > Subject: Here's an interesting looking palmtop > > > This looks like an interesting unit. It's got RF wireless. It kinda looks > like a cross between an HP95 and.... a gameboy. > > http://cybiko.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:06:39 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: Colin Thompson In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The problem with a rechargable solution is that the battery is usually dead just when you need it, unless you leave it charging all the time. Also, when it dies in the field you are stuck unless there is a source of normal batteries. I have taken several hundred pictures with the D cell adaptor and it is still going strong, thats how I like things. Also, if it dies in the field I can buy replacement batteries anywhere and they cost less than half what a single 2CR5 would cost. Pete On 23 Jun 2000, at 17:20, Colin Thompson wrote: > Do yourself a big favor and by a the nicad charger and an extra battery. My > wife and I each have two batteries and we share one charger. We have yet to > run out of juice. > > PS, if you do alot of picture taking at one time you can get the D cell > battery pack from the canon eos and adapt it for use > in the a50, S10 or S20 very easily. I have yet to use up the first set of D > cells. A little bulky but it hooks on your belt so it > isn't too bad and sure saves over the price of 2CR5 batteries. Also > www.wholesaleadvantage.com has great prices on 2CR5 > batteries, $4.92 each last time I looked with reasonable shipping. > > > Peter W. Borders > > Network Support Technician > Tidewater Community College > tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:08:27 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <88256908.0004EBF1.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Yeah but now they have the S100 which uses a different battery, of course. Also, it has always annoyed me that the european package for this camera includes the recharger and battery, only in the US is it an option. Pete On 23 Jun 2000, at 17:52, Longden Loo wrote: > As a matter of fact, Egghead just emailed me that my order for the charger+NiMH > battery has just shipped. I tried to order a spare NiMH battery, but all the > places that had the battery was out of the charger, and vice-versa. I'll just > have to pickup the spare battery later and eat the shipping cost then. > > I figure it'll be worthwhile especially if I move to the S10/S20 later, since > they all use the same power source. > > - Longden > > > > > > Colin Thompson on 06/23/2000 05:20:44 PM > > Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond > to Colin Thompson > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) > Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max > > > > Do yourself a big favor and by a the nicad charger and an extra battery. My > wife and I each have two batteries and we share one charger. We have yet to run > out of juice. > > << > PS, if you do alot of picture taking at one time you can get the D cell > battery pack from the canon eos and adapt it for use > in the a50, S10 or S20 very easily. I have yet to use up the first set of D > cells. A little bulky but it hooks on your belt so it > isn't too bad and sure saves over the price of 2CR5 batteries. Also > www.wholesaleadvantage.com has great prices on 2CR5 > batteries, $4.92 each last time I looked with reasonable shipping. > >> > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 23:33:39 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Don Weatherly Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Weatherly Subject: DataPerfect 2.6e In-Reply-To: <394E8D70.EA59CCDF@Home.Com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've downloaded DataPerfect 2.3c but have been unable to download DataPerfect 2.6e (Y2K compliant). I've been able to access the following html pages but when I click on the file URLs I get "file not found" or "file not on server" errors. Has anyone had success downloading these files? Are the files available from any other sites? =========== > DataPerfect can be downloaded and a list and help found at: > http://surf.to/dataperfect ----- > The dataperfect page I use is at > http://www.mailinglist.nu/dataperfect/ > The 2.6e page is > http://www.mailinglist.nu/dataperfect/dp26e.php3 > The zip file for 2.6e is at > ftp://ftp.tjalsma.nl/pub/dp26e.zip > Download DP26E.ZIP from ftp://ftp.tjalsma.nl/pub/dp26e.zip > Click here to download DPSPOOL.ZIP > You can download the Visual Basic 6 runtime files using this link: > ftp://ftp.tjalsma.nl/pub/vbrun60sp3.exe > ftp://tjalsma.nl/pub/shellold.zip > ftp://tjalsma.nl/pub/shell.zip ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:37:58 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: External speaker jack In-Reply-To: <200006231417.KAA13114@sphmraaa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, A Meshar wrote: > I wonder if using external speaker (earplugs) will improve the sound > quality produced by some software that can process WAV files, for > example... Unfortunately, it doesn't improve sound quality in the slightest. All it does is make it louder. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:17:58 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , bobv Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bobv Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I asked this question earlier, with no response. Can't the power problem be solved with the double PCMCIA adapter and external power? Bob ----------- It takes too much power, I think. Also the people that said they might not fit may have been trying to use a CFI adaptor which is made differently than a CFII adaptor which has the CF socket offset to one side. Pete On 23 Jun 2000, at 17:20, Colin Thompson wrote: > I don't know what some of you have been smoking! Just tried a Microdrive > with supplied adapter in my 200LX. No problem with the fit but it was not > recognized by the LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 07:55:35 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: External speaker jack Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A Meshar wrote: > > Tha WAV file was fine, I heard it clearly on the > notebook. C'mon - real music or cat's musik or customer complaints (gd&r). > Oh, no! A new peoject :-) ... It'll have to wait until after > the July 1 event! :-) ... What July 1st event ? HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 04:25:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 In-Reply-To: <39544486.25FD7218@sos.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII you dont even need that with alittle building/hacking you can add an external battery-pack to the AC adapter socket and then your LX is rated for any voltage card (what was it again 3.3, 5 and 12 as long as AC adapter is installed!!) of course make sure you have plenty of V, mA, for the job ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:12:08 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Geert van Wirdum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Geert van Wirdum Subject: Re: Receive attachment in Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Helmuth, I'll try that. Even though most attachments I get are sent for further use as files, this will enable a quick scan then. Geert. > In this case you don't have to save the attachment. For this purpose I > use PNS200 which is available from ftp.dasoft.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:08:19 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: ANN: PDU Version 1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Martin Bergvill wrote: > You need Www.logomanager.co.uk and a laptop(irda) to enable this > Netmonitor. Find more info about this on the Logomanager website. thanks for the info. I guess it's just an undocumented AT command which enables the netmonitor. I'll ask the author for the command, and if I'm lucky again (as with the flash SMS), I may be able to activate the monitor through D&A's IR.EXE. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:21:54 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: IrDA, Palm Pilot & Nokia. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! * What is the format of the bussines card sent to/from Nokia and Palm pilot? When I try to send hp200>nokia I just get a "done" (using IrDA) but nothing appears on the Nokia 7110 or 8210. * Why can hp200 not send/receive anything from a Palm Pilot? (or can it?) When I receive a bussines card from a Palm Pilot it looks like: =C7 =10 { A friend of mine learned a lesson the other day. Do not store vital information on Your phones addresbook. We were fooling around with his phone and for some reason he had activated the IR on it. I took out my hp200lx and within seconds I had "stolen" his whole phone book. Imagine his face when I showed him all his security codes for his work, paycards, phones etc that he had placed in his phonebook. He was not angry, but thankful for showing him how vulnerable he was. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:06:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 24 Jun 2000 09:31:50 -0400 (EDT) 05h06m40s ago ... On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, Sputnik wrote: > you dont even need that with alittle building/hacking you can add an > external battery-pack to the AC adapter socket and then your LX is = rated > for any voltage card (what was it again 3.3, 5 and 12 as long as AC > adapter is installed!!) of course make sure you have plenty of V, mA, = for > the job Sorry, wrong. The LX can supply power to 5V or 12V cards without the adapter. I used to use an old 12V 15M IBM-lableled card by Sandisk with no problem. Using a high-current-capacity external battery pack will give you longer time on batteries at the cost of portability. It does NOTHING for the 150 mA current limit for the PCMCIA socket. To use a card with heavier current draw, you need to use a card extender that allows external power TO THE CARD!. Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 23:44:08 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paul Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Johnson Subject: timezone.dat and the Olympics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For those of you who may care, Sydney is cursed with the Olympics this year. This may mean late bleary eyed nights to those of you sport fanatics on the wrong side of the world, far from Sydney, Olympic city, Centre Of The Known Universe. It may also mean a change to your timezone.dat file. In Australia generally daylight saving is adopted by NSW, ACT, VIC & SA from the last Sunday in October until the last Sunday in March. During this period daylight saving states are 1 hour ahead of their standard times. However due to the Olympics, for the year 2000, daylight saving will start the last Sunday in August. QLD, WA & NT do not adopt daylight saving. It fades the curtains and scares the cows. I have no idea what Tasmania is doing about daylight saving yet. They are probably too busy counting to 12 on their fingers. Here is the timezone.dat that works that I have been using up till now: European 3:25-31 6 1:00 10:25-31 6 0:00 Northern 4:1-7 6 1:00 10:25-31 6 0:00 Southern 3:1-7 6 0:00 10:25-31 6 1:00 Australia 3:25-31 6 0:00 10:25-31 6 1:00 I've never seen an explanation of the timezone.dat format so heres my best guess. For the Australia part of it: Australia 3:25-31 6 0:00 10:25-31 6 1:00 The first line is the daylight saving category The 2nd line is the 3rd month, then the last seven days of the month (daylight savings changes seem to be made on the last Sunday in a month), I'm not sure what the 6 is for but I guess its the 6th day of the week so that changes happen after midnight Saturday (I think the official times are normally 1am or 3am or so on the Sunday). Then the time difference in hours:minutes. The 3rd line is the 10th month, then the last seven days of the month (daylight savings changes seem to be made on the last Sunday in a month), again I'm not sure what the 6 is for but I guess its the 6th day of the week so that changes happen after midnight Saturday (I think the official times are normally 1am or 3am or so on the Sunday). Then the time difference in hours:minutes. In this case add an hour to the time. Daylight saving adjustments don't take place until you use World Time on/after the due dates. A dialog box pops up and you need to confirm the change. So a simple timezone.dat change would be: European 3:25-31 6 1:00 10:25-31 6 0:00 Northern 4:1-7 6 1:00 10:25-31 6 0:00 Southern 3:1-7 6 0:00 10:25-31 6 1:00 Australia 3:25-31 6 0:00 8:25-31 6 1:00 The last line starts with 8 for August instead of 10 for October. Timezone.dat lives in c:\_dat. Make a backup of your current timezone.dat, you will need this next year when the world returns to normal and we aren't experiencing OH Limp Dick fever. I'm puttting a reminder in my Todos. Then edit c:\_dat\timezone.dat to what you want. If you really screw it up, you can delete it. Next time you start World Time a default timezone.dat will be made. Or if you can be bothered get really fancy, use the new timezone.dat above. Then in World Time make the necessary changes to switch off daylght sving in cities in states that never have daylight saving (QLD, WA & NT). To make things easier for those who may not be familiar with states and their cities, heres a start. City State Adelaide SA Alice Springs NT Brisbane QLD Broken Hill NSW but might follow SA times. Canberra ACT Cocos Is. I think its a dependency. I suppose they don't adopt daylight saving. Darwin NT Govt. House, Lord Howe Is. NSW? I guess they don't adopt daylight saving. Hobart TAS Kingston, Norfolk Is. NSW? I think they don't adopt daylight saving. Melbourne VIC Perth WA Sydney NSW NSW New South Wales NT Northern Territory QLD Queensland WA Western Australia VIC Victoria TAS Tasmania ACT Australian Capitol Territory SA South Australia Bye, Paul Johnson. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:42:28 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I cannot believe what I just saw. The Handspring Visor's Springboard is a proprietary, compatible to nothing, new interface with a proper API. No Compact Flash, modem or lan cards in CF format will work! As somebody else just mentioned in another context: What were these guys smoking when they designed the Visor? This is IMHO the death sentence for Handspring and no competition for the Palm. Who is nowadays going to buy equipment solely usable in one device with a life expectancy of one or two years? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:38:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: XBRAM Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:58:41 -0400 (EDT) XBRAM is occasionally mentioned here, but never in any detail. So - a few questions: 1 Is XBRAM the same as the Extended BIOS Data Area described in the LX Reference? That's a software write-protected area of RAM for holding some data used by the system. The addresses described run from 9000:F733 to 9000:FFFF. Seems likely that a whole segment is assigned, so there's probably a lot of unused space below 9000:F733 2 Buddy and ABC/LX both store information in XBRAM, so the info must be available somewhere... Question is where? It should be possible to post general info without compromising proprietary info from either program. 3 The only suggestion for fixing the short battery life problem (besides repair service) is to back up C: and pull out all batteries for 24 hours to clear XBRAM. There should be a way of clearing corrupted XBRAM data affecting the power management without wiping everything. TIA Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 09:17:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Subject: Compact Flash Disk, PCMCIA Disks and Name Brand Sandisks are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I still have (1) 48 Meg Compact Flash name Brand Simple Technologies disk available. This disk is in excellent condition and has only been used a very few times in testing a customer's ne prototype product at work. I am selling it for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available as well. I sell (1) 20 Meg Disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. If you are only interested in name brand Sandisks, then I still have (5) 20 Meg PCMCIA Sandisks as well. I am selling (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for $40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging and I sell (2) 20 Meg Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 for shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! and you can send payment to my address at: Scott Moore 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street Beaverton, Or 97006 I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let you know that your disk or (disks) are on the way. I always send out disks the very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday. I package all my disks in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded envelope for a safe delivery. If you are interested, email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you. The response over the last few months has been just great and the people I have worked with have been just terrific! Thanks alot! Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:31:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: timezone.dat and the Olympics Comments: To: Paul Johnson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > For those of you who may care, Sydney is cursed with the Olympics this > year. Ah, yes, _WE_ the good citizens of Seattle bombarded our City Council and mayor to kill any bid to hold the Olympics! And I would imagine after our wonderful hosting of the WTO, that the Olympic Committee, even with appropriate bribes, would have gone elsewhere! (g) Thankfully, we will be spared. I was thru Salt Lake City two years apart and their roadways were still mayhem trying to get in shape for the Olympics. The locals were suffering a couple of years to turmoil for two weeks of events! Nevermind their tarnished reputation over the bribery. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 15:48:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: DataPerfect 2.6e MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I've downloaded DataPerfect 2.3c but have been unable to download > DataPerfect 2.6e (Y2K compliant). Version 2.3c works fine if you stick to 4 digit years in your databases. You only need version 2.6 if you plan to use dates in your database AND you want them to be only 2 digits. I am using version 2.3c currently without any trouble. Try out the version you have and see if it works for your purposes. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:30:33 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan Peichl wrote: > What were these guys smoking when they designed the Visor? This is IMHO > the death sentence for Handspring and no competition for the Palm. Hmmm, IMHO it is one of the smartest moves they've made. For the comsumer they don't have to worry if this neat toy will work in their machine or not. For the company it gives them control. > Who is nowadays going to buy equipment solely usable in one > device with a life expectancy of one or two years? I'm sure they hope their target market will buy such equipment. I also think two years is a low number. We can't judge things by our own reactions because we are not typical of the market they are aiming at. If we were HP would still be making the 200lx and not all those silly WinCE machines. One use that comes to mind at once is copy protection. Place your customized apps on a Visor cards. The best possible copy protection. -- Patrick West pgp 2.6.2 key fingerprint = 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:30:44 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan Peichl wrote: > What were these guys smoking when they designed the Visor? This is IMHO > the death sentence for Handspring and no competition for the Palm. Hmmm, IMHO it is one of the smartest moves they've made. For the consumer they don't have to worry if this neat toy will work in their machine or not. For the company it gives them control. > Who is nowadays going to buy equipment solely usable in one > device with a life expectancy of one or two years? I'm sure they hope their target market will buy such equipment. I also think two years is a low number. We can't judge things by our own reactions because we are not typical of the market they are aiming at. If we were HP would still be making the 200lx and not all those silly WinCE machines. One use that comes to mind at once is copy protection. Place your customized apps on a Visor cards. The best possible copy protection. -- Patrick West pgp 2.6.2 key fingerprint = 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:40:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! In-Reply-To: <39551A74.179F910F@uswest.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, Patrick West wrote: > Stefan Peichl wrote: > > What were these guys smoking when they designed the Visor? This is IMHO > > the death sentence for Handspring and no competition for the Palm. > Hmmm, > IMHO it is one of the smartest moves they've made. For the > consumer they don't have to worry if this neat toy will work > in their machine or not. For the company it gives them > control. > > > Who is nowadays going to buy equipment solely usable in one > > device with a life expectancy of one or two years? > if you want a CF slot get a TRG-pro pilot-device it has SOUND also something the other pilot devices dont really support of course it's not as cheap as a visor/pilot but you have your CF1/2 cards to use ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 06:40:09 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: OT:Olympics Travel Tips In-Reply-To: <20000624134408.44EB5DD405@entoo.connect.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:44 PM 6/24/00 +1000, you wrote: >For those of you who may care, Sydney is cursed with the Olympics this >year. This may mean late bleary eyed nights to those of you sport >fanatics on the wrong side of the world, far from Sydney, Olympic >city, Centre Of The Known Universe. It may also mean a change to your >timezone.dat file. Thanks to Paul for the Timezone.dat info. If any of you on the list are planning to travel here for the Olympics, a few things that may be worthwhile knowing.. Weather in Sydney during the Olympics is about the same as April/May in the Northern hemisphere ie cool mornings warm around Noon and cool evenings. Flying time from East Coast USA is 20 hours plus layover time. (14 hours in the air non-stop from LA or San Fran). Europe flying time is About the same as East Coast US. Melatonin (For Jet Lag) is NOT available in Australia so bring some with you if you want. Money Best to bring your Mac/ATM card and just get Local Australian currency drawn directly from your home bank accounts..or the ever present credit cards are accepted most places... except Taxi's (Long story). Our money is Plastic instead of paper (very clever anti counterfeit measures built in) Even has A poem by Banjo Patterson (Wrote Waltzing Matilda) on the $10 note in VERY small print. Different colours for the different denominations. Tipping is encouraged for exceptional service but not required. Please be prepared to endure Sydneys public transport system (Its strained with normal everyday needs) Goodness knows what is going to happen during the Olympics. There are apparently plans for dedicated Official Olympic lanes for Buses etc and Trains are going to be fully extended. Now for the good news.. Thanks to several years of construction frenzy the venues are all on schedule for completion on time and we (finally) have a train that goes to the airport. Food and frolicking is plentiful and there is no shortage of variety to enjoy scenery , nightlife etc. Any queries if you are planning to visit I'll be happy to answer offlist. Regards Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:09:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Kodak 1600mAhr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>Re. Kodak 1600 mAHr NiMH cells - These just showed up in a local CompUSA. Also a charger/4 cell combo (for some reason the batteries with this are only 1450 mAHr). Has anyone been running the Kodak 1600s long enough to tell how they compare with other brands for self-discharge and general usable hours in the LX?<<<<< I have either 4 or 8 of the Kodak 1600 batteries and the opposite number of Nexcell 1500 mAHr batteries that I use in my camera. I haven't tried them in the 200lx yet. In the camera, which probably isn't as good a test as the 200lx, I can't really tell any difference. I got all of these from Thompson Distributing and they say the Kodak 1600s are rated at 1000 charges and the Nexcell are rated at 500 charges, but they claim both seem to get double their ratings in their tests and in use. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 15:57:29 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paul Khoury - Tech Support Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Khoury - Tech Support Subject: Re: Kodak 1600mAhr Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <001301bfde20$7931f4a0$99fc36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:09 PM 6/24/2000 -0500, you wrote: >I have either 4 or 8 of the Kodak 1600 batteries and the opposite >number of Nexcell 1500 mAHr batteries that I use in my camera. I >haven't tried them in the 200lx yet. In the camera, which probably >isn't as good a test as the 200lx, I can't really tell any >difference. > >I got all of these from Thompson Distributing and they say the Kodak >1600s are rated at 1000 charges and the Nexcell are rated at 500 >charges, but they claim both seem to get double their ratings in >their tests and in use. > > Even though I'm quite quiet on this list for now, I thought I'd mention that I get my NiMH batteries from www.allelectronics.com, which is a local surplus store (2 locations, also ships out). They're 1200mAhr I think, $3.00 each, $4 or $6 for the charger. I've used them in my digital camera, and I used to use them in my 200LX with good success. Now I use Duracell Powercell Industrial batteries in my 200LX, which cost me $0.65 each, and seem to last a fairly long time). Just my 2 cents. Paul ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:23:51 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sidney Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sidney Ho Subject: R e: Canon A50 camera at Office Max In-Reply-To: <200006240401.AAA28283@sphmgaad.compuserve.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 6/24/00 "Peter W. Borders" wrote: > Yeah but now they have the S100 which uses a different battery, of course. > Also, it has always annoyed me that the > european package for this camera includes the recharger and battery, only in > the US is it an option. Yeah...but remember, European prices are generally far more annoying than USA prices, much more than the added cost of of a recharger and battery. That's the difference between markets and marketing. Overall, prices are usually cheaper in the USA than anywhere else in the world, often by a wide margin. --- Sidney Ho ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 18:24:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terry Owen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Owen Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! In-Reply-To: <39551A74.179F910F@uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As a Visor owner, I had great hopes for the Springboard 8 meg memory module but it used batteries at too great a rate. I sold it and lost $20 bucks or so. Used the money toward updating from 2meg to 8meg. But 8 megs on a Palm OS holds an amazing amount of compressed text. I use iSilo and it takes html documents and compresses them to tiny amounts and keeps all the links. I love it. I can't bear to part with my 100LX, though but I really should commit to one or the other. But with a keyboad and a 40 meg flash card, it's more like a true pc. But the Palms are great for ebooks and lots of text usage. If I used spreadsheets alot, I might not feel so happy with it. Anyway, the best thing about people buying and using palm pcs is that there is so much research into making smaller and more powerful toys - oops, I mean - tools. Terry p.s. Some of the new modules, like the mp3 player, us CF cards and will offer additional storage to the Visor user. Oh - and as for the appeal of a machine that lasts a year or two, price a cute new Palm against a 200LX. I paid $179 for my 2 meg Visor and upgraded to 8 meg 6 months later for another 90. A pittance compared to the cost of a new LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:34:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 23 Jun 2000, at 17:20, Colin Thompson wrote: > I don't know what some of you have been smoking! Just tried a > Microdrive with supplied adapter in my 200LX. No problem with > the fit but it was not recognized by the LX. But which Microdrive? Maybe the newer ones (which use less power) are more compatible than the old? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 08:22:36 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll have to look into this D cell adapter. Do you have a part number? - Longden "Peter W. Borders" on 06/23/2000 07:06:39 PM Please respond to tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max The problem with a rechargable solution is that the battery is usually dead just when you need it, unless you leave it charging all the time. Also, when it dies in the field you are stuck unless there is a source of normal batteries. I have taken several hundred pictures with the D cell adaptor and it is still going strong, thats how I like things. Also, if it dies in the field I can buy replacement batteries anywhere and they cost less than half what a single 2CR5 would cost. Pete On 23 Jun 2000, at 17:20, Colin Thompson wrote: > Do yourself a big favor and by a the nicad charger and an extra battery. My > wife and I each have two batteries and we share one charger. We have yet to > run out of juice. > > PS, if you do alot of picture taking at one time you can get the D cell > battery pack from the canon eos and adapt it for use > in the a50, S10 or S20 very easily. I have yet to use up the first set of D > cells. A little bulky but it hooks on your belt so it > isn't too bad and sure saves over the price of 2CR5 batteries. Also > www.wholesaleadvantage.com has great prices on 2CR5 > batteries, $4.92 each last time I looked with reasonable shipping. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 20:36:03 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: DataPerfect 2.6e Comments: To: Don Weatherly MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don, I can upload it to you. I had the same problem and had to resort to asking a friend for assistance. He uploaded it to me. It is a very small zip file, about 326kb. Let me know and I will send it to you. William E. Blankenship Don Weatherly wrote: > I've downloaded DataPerfect 2.3c but have been unable to download > DataPerfect 2.6e (Y2K compliant). > > I've been able to access the following html pages but when I click on the > file URLs I get "file not found" or "file not on server" errors. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 18:15:15 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: Terry Owen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terry Owen wrote: > I can't bear to part with my 100LX, though but I really should commit to > one or the other. I am limping upon two opinions at this point but more from a sense of impending doom than anything else. (My latch is shot and I have started getting lines in my screen so...) My wife is using a Palm III and my son talked me out of the Velo so I ended up with her old Palm Pilot Pro. I have Intellisync for it and Intellilink for the 200lx (have Intellisync for it as well but can't get it to work!!!!) and have been using Schedule+ and Lotus Organizer 2.1 as a midpoint to swap stuff between the two. I'll probably upgrade to a palm iii or better so I can play with Pendragon forms. It looks like the killer app for work as it will allow me to use the Palm as an extension of MS Access97 & MS Access2000. -- Patrick West pgpkey 2.6.2 fingerprint is 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 18:28:11 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: FS: Pocket modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For Sale or Trade PM2400F 2400B Data/ 9600FAX Pocket Modem by Practical Peripherals. Includes AC Adapter and a Ni-Cad battery Pack. Modem is 2.5 inches by 3.5 inches by 1 inch. Battery pack is 2.25 inches by 3 inches by 3/4 inches Includes velcro strap to hold the two together in use, 2 manuals, Quicklink 2 DOS and a utility disk. And the Box. USA only, I accept paypal. -- Patrick West pgpkey 2.6.2 fingerprint is 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 18:34:59 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: FS: Q & A 4.0 DOS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For Sale or Trade (Warning 5.25" disks) Q & A 4.0 in box, 4 manuals, 5.25" disks. Includes the keyboard guides! I purchased this to use on the Palmtop but never got around to learning it. USA only, i do accept Paypal -- Patrick West pgpkey 2.6.2 fingerprint is 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 21:29:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Sprague Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Sprague Subject: HP Serial Interface Cable? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFDE23.561E2120" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFDE23.561E2120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I bought a used copy of the Connectivity Pack and the seller send an HP = 82222A cable instead of the normal 200LX cable. What the heck is this = thing for? It's a 4 pin female connector on the 200LX end but it = doesn't look like it would fit a 95LX. It you've got a need for this cable, send me the shipping cost and = you've got it! Best, Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFDE23.561E2120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
I bought a used copy of the = Connectivity Pack and=20 the seller send an HP 82222A cable instead of the normal 200LX = cable.  What=20 the heck is this thing for?  It's a 4 pin female connector on the = 200LX end=20 but it doesn't look like it would fit a 95LX.
 
It you've got a need for this cable, = send me the=20 shipping cost and you've got it!
 
Best,
 
Bill
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFDE23.561E2120-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 18:45:29 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Colin Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 In-Reply-To: <88256908.00823513.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have two 340 meg drives for our S10s. Wouldn't it be nice if the newer versions would run in an LX? I doubt it though. On 23 Jun 2000, at 17:20, Colin Thompson wrote: > I don't know what some of you have been smoking! Just tried a > Microdrive with supplied adapter in my 200LX. No problem with > the fit but it was not recognized by the LX. But which Microdrive? Maybe the newer ones (which use less power) are more compatible than the old? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:29:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Colin Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will admit to partial defection. I recently purchased a TRG Pro. It's quite a machine and suits my current needs better than the LX. The backlight is great for reading after the wife is asleep. I really don't know how I got along without this feature. MY LXs ARE NOT FOR SALE! Another weak point to the Visor is the OS is in ROM. All of the 4 and 8 meg Palm or TRG units have it in flash. Very handy if you want to upgrade your OS. This along with the Springboard speak volumes about Handsprings' marketing strategy. Colin if you want a CF slot get a TRG-pro pilot-device it has SOUND also something the other pilot devices dont really support of course it's not as cheap as a visor/pilot but you have your CF1/2 cards to use ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 21:43:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Kodak 1600mAhr Comments: To: Paul Khoury - Tech Support MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Khoury - Tech Support" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Kodak 1600mAhr > > > Even though I'm quite quiet on this list for now, I thought I'd mention > that I get my NiMH batteries from www.allelectronics.com, which is > a local surplus store (2 locations, also ships out). They're 1200mAhr > I think, $3.00 each, $4 or $6 for the charger. I've used them in > my digital camera, and I used to use them in my 200LX with good success. > Now I use Duracell Powercell Industrial batteries in my 200LX, which cost me > $0.65 each, and seem to last a fairly long time). I get the 1500 mAHr Nexcell's from www.thomasdistributing.com for $2.15 if I remember right. The Kodak 1600 mAHr batteries are approximately the same price although theyre sold in packs of 4 and not individually. I think their chargers are more but they're intelligent chargers and I think I'm about to order one. For alkalines I use Fuji batteries sold under the Walgreens brand name at Walgreens for $.50 each in small packs or .41 each in packs of 24 and they seem to outlast everything else I've tried. I've been using them for years with never a problem. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 22:56:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jay Bachmayer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jay Bachmayer Subject: Using Zip.com with Windows 98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01BFDE2F.78592300" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BFDE2F.78592300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For several years now I have used Zip (2.12) with a cable connecting = my laptop with the 200LX. I recently upgraded to a new laptop with WIN = 98, and can't seem to get these connected to make the transfer. I also = tried transfile win2000 and couldn't communicate. I have checked the = documentation that can with Zip, and all the windows help screens and = have reset the serial port setrtings with the same settings that used to = work on the old laptop. Has anyone had similar problems, and is there a solution. Jay Bachmayer ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BFDE2F.78592300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    For several years = now I have=20 used Zip (2.12) with a cable connecting my laptop with the 200LX.  = I=20 recently upgraded to a new laptop with WIN 98, and can't seem to get = these=20 connected to make the transfer.  I also tried transfile win2000 and = couldn't communicate.  I have checked the documentation that can = with Zip,=20 and all the windows help screens and have reset the serial port = setrtings with=20 the same settings that used to work on the old laptop.
 
Has anyone had similar problems, and is = there a=20 solution.
 
Jay = Bachmayer
------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BFDE2F.78592300-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 00:21:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , FRiC Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: FRiC Subject: Re: Using Zip.com with Windows 98 Comments: To: Jay Bachmayer In-Reply-To: <002f01bfde6a$257fdee0$3e0810d8@y8cgb> from Jay Bachmayer at "Jun 24, 2000 10:56:45 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DOS data transfer programs don't always work inside Windows, and don't always work if one computer is significatly faster than the other. I use something called OneLink which does both. :) OneLink was made by Binary Research who also made Ghost before it got acquired by Symantec. I can't seem to find a current URL fo either OneLink or Binary Research (the old URL goes to the Symantec Ghost page). So if anyone needs to know more about this just drop me a mail. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:11:25 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Possible new source for free internet access for the HPLX (nationwide local access lines) Hi All, I posted the following message to the list a while back, but to my great surprise, I didn't get a single reaction to it. Here is a copy of my post, just in case the original post didn't actually make it onto the list, somehow. (Please note that the normal Freewwweb access software does not even have an advertising banner window, at all.) BTW, as far as my dial-up text based internet access project, It looks like I've found an ISP that still offers nationwide local dial-up access to Unix shell accounts. (Broadwing) I've found their website and have sent an email to them with some specific questions, but I have not yet gotten a response from them. --- Hi All, I just came across something very interesting that was written by a PalmPilot user. He has described and illustrated in detail how he can use 4 of the free national internet ISPs (Freewwweb, Freei, FreeAtLast and Netzero) to get free internet access on his PalmPilot. His instructions are so easy to follow that it looks like someone with graphical internet software on their HP200LX might be able to use the same settings and tips to do the same on their HP200LX! If you have graphical internet access software on your HP200LX and you are located in either the US or Canada, please check out the enclosed URL and see if you can use the info to establish a free internet connection through one of the many free local access phone numbers offered these 4 ISPs. Please let us all know how you did! If it can be done, I just might go ahead and finally purchase the graphical internet access software (from D&A?) for my HP200LX! :-) Palm Notes: Using a "Free ISP" dial-up with your Palm Device http://www.geocities.com/daveinfopage/palmpilot_freeISP.html Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan --- ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:37:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Receive attachment in Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Geert: Just viewing the attachments as Helmuth describes below will NOT remove them from the message itself, so you can view, and decide if you want to keep the attachment for later extraction to file, or just strip it from the message right then and there, to save space on the message file. (Check Menu - File - Strip Attachments.) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com Geert van Wirdum wrote: > Thanks, Helmuth, I'll try that. Even though most attachments I get are > sent for further use as files, this will enable a quick scan then. > > Geert. > > > In this case you don't have to save the attachment. For this purpose I > > use PNS200 which is available from ftp.dasoft.com. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:37:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: External speaker jack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hpstaber@compuserve.com wrote: > A Meshar wrote: > > > > Tha WAV file was fine, I heard it clearly on the > > notebook. > > C'mon - real music or cat's musik or customer complaints (gd&r). Voice messages, not music. I am puzzled why you are so doubtful. I wrote about my notebook. My notebook is pretty powerful and has EXCELLENT sound quality. WAV files are fairly good format for sound, but they are huge. My voice mail proider gives me a choice of several audio formats. I use the most compressed, which is also the most lossy, and still the quality for voice mail is excellent. I never had ANY problems with messages distorting or anything... All this is true for a Windows machine notebook. As for the palmtop: The only player I found was for WAV files. The quality of playback was rotten. I know the files were fine - I got actual messages that played well on the notebook. So the rotten quality could come from the player or the speaker or both. I did not try the player on the Notebook, so I cannot rule it out as the producer of rotten quality. An external jack to a better quality speaker could tell me something. David says the quality is not improved, just gets louder, so it could be just the "soundboard" in the palmtop. Anyone knows anything about that? David, Mack? Maybe that part of the circuitry can be improved? I could also run the player on the Notebook. And BTW - we get no complaints! Our products are perfect! We have great Beta testers! > > Oh, no! A new peoject :-) ... It'll have to wait until after > > the July 1 event! :-) ... > > What July 1st event ? Wait till July 1. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:38:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan Peichl wrote: > I cannot believe what I just saw. The Handspring Visor's > Springboard is a proprietary, compatible to nothing, > new interface with a proper API. Ý...¨ > This is IMHO > the death sentence for Handspring and no competition for the > Palm. Agree completely. Someone told me that and I did not believe it myself. > Who is nowadays going to buy equipment solely usable in one > device with a life expectancy of one or two years? Optimist!!! ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 01:37:55 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: External speaker jack Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Sargeant wrote: > On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, A Meshar wrote: > > > I wonder if using external speaker (earplugs) will improve the sound > > quality produced by some software that can process WAV files, for > > example... > > Unfortunately, it doesn't improve sound quality in the slightest. All it > does is make it louder. So it must be the circuitry in the palmtop that makes the sound so rotten, huh? :-( ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:16:40 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ray.simons@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ray Simons Subject: Re: Using Zip.com with Windows 98 Comments: To: jbachmay@DTGNET.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've used Meyer's fast transfer Zip file since the late '80's with the 95lx and DOS machines, through Win3.1. Win95 and presently with Win98 on a Toshiba Satellite and never any problem. If the operating system itself was as stable and efficient as Zip I would be extremely happy. The 200lx is a DS with 5mb. Ray On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 22:56:45 -0700 Jay Bachmayer writes: > For several years now I have used Zip (2.12) with a cable > connecting my laptop with the 200LX. I recently upgraded to a new > laptop with WIN 98, and can't seem to get these connected to make > the transfer. I also tried transfile win2000 and couldn't > communicate. I have checked the documentation that can with Zip, > and all the windows help screens and have reset the serial port > setrtings with the same settings that used to work on the old > laptop. > > Has anyone had similar problems, and is there a solution. > > Jay Bachmayer Ray Simons 6263 Rockland Road Lithonia, GA 30038-3431 Phone: 678-580-2540 Fax: 678-580-2520 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 06:32:25 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@juno.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Walgreen FUJI alkalines Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Barry.. How do yu know that the Walgreens are FUJIs? They are good though, and cheep. Yor pal al................. > For alkalines I use Fuji batteries sold under the > Walgreens brand name at Walgreens for $.50 each in > small packs or .41 each in packs of 24 and they seem to outlast everything else I've tried. I've > been using them for years with never a problem. > > Barry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:30:42 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: Re: IrDA, Palm Pilot & Nokia. Comments: To: Tomas Moberg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please give us more info on how you "Stole" his phonebook. What software did you use? ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting =20 Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za =20 Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+=3D This tagline is umop apisdn. =3D+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tomas Moberg ÝSMTP:Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE¨ > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 2:22 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: IrDA, Palm Pilot & Nokia. >=20 > Hi! >=20 > * What is the format of the bussines card sent to/from Nokia and Palm > pilot? When I try to send hp200>nokia I just get a "done" (using = IrDA) > but nothing appears on the Nokia 7110 or 8210. >=20 > * Why can hp200 not send/receive anything from a Palm Pilot? (or can = it?) > When I receive a bussines card from a Palm Pilot it looks like: > =C7 =10 { >=20 > A friend of mine learned a lesson the other day. Do not store vital > information on Your phones addresbook. We were fooling around with = his > phone and for some reason he had activated the IR on it. I took out > my hp200lx and within seconds I had "stolen" his whole phone book. > Imagine his face when I showed him all his security codes for his = work, > paycards, phones etc that he had placed in his phonebook. > He was not angry, but thankful for showing him how vulnerable he was. >=20 > /tomas moberg > Uppsala >=20 > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:29:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: External speaker jack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:42:45 -0400 (EDT) 08h04m50s ago ... On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, A Meshar wrote: > So it must be the circuitry in the palmtop that makes the > sound so rotten, huh? :-( Sort of... 8-> Simply adding a speaker/headphone jack does nothing to filter out the large amount of high frequency noise. The issue of PTP from several years back (featuring Japanese Palmtop development) had a circuit diagram that included a low-pass filter and (I think) a small amplifier. Never tried building it, so can't swear how good (or bad) it sounds. Later, Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:01:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: IrDA, Palm Pilot & Nokia. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:21:54 +0200, Tomas Moberg wrote: > Hi! > > * What is the format of the bussines card sent to/from Nokia and Palm > pilot? When I try to send hp200>nokia I just get a "done" (using IrDA) > but nothing appears on the Nokia 7110 or 8210. This is what I transfer from the Hp200Lx's phonebook to a Nokia 7110: BEGIN:VCARD N:Tomas Moberg TEL;WORK:+465556321 TEL;CELL:+465556321 TEL;FAX:+465556321 TEL;HOME:+465556321 TEL:+46556321 TEL;WORK: EMAIL:tomas.moberg@abc.se LABEL:Adresse here NOTE:Notes here END:VCARD The 7110 can store 5 numbers and two textfields. All other Nokia's can store only name and one phonenumber sot the Vcard should look like this: BEGIN:VCARD N:Tomas Moberg TEL:+46556321 END:VCARD > * Why can hp200 not send/receive anything from a Palm Pilot? (or can it?) > When I receive a bussines card from a Palm Pilot it looks like: > G { I have never tried a hplx <-> Palm Pilot.. But I have gotten the Hplx to recevie a Vcard from the 7110..but only once. > A friend of mine learned a lesson the other day. Do not store vital > information on Your phones addresbook. We were fooling around with his > phone and for some reason he had activated the IR on it. I took out > my hp200lx and within seconds I had "stolen" his whole phone book. What phone did you do this with? It would be nice to transfer the extended phonebook of the 7110 to the Hplx. I have transferred name/one number to the Hplx.. > Imagine his face when I showed him all his security codes for his work, > paycards, phones etc that he had placed in his phonebook. > He was not angry, but thankful for showing him how vulnerable he was. Yes it is not that smart to have this info stored on the phone.. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 11:27:11 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: External speaker jack Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ed Padin wrote: > You're better off compressing the wave file to a low quality MP3... oh, > wait, we can't use those can we? Beats me! But I can tell you this: My voice mail provider does not provide _me_ with MP3 files of the messages. > Isn't there another sound file type that works on the LX and is compressed? > I think I remember a program that works like EVA does with AVI files. It > will convert a .wav file to it's own format which is a lot smaller. I know of GSM which is about 10% or so of the WAV file iseze for the same messages. BUT: I know of no player for this format that runs on the palmtop. I have a special favor in my heart for AVI audio files for some strange reasons , but again I know of no player for palmtops for that, besides the obvious issue that my voice mail provider does not use this format. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:05:59 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: IrDA, Palm Pilot & Nokia. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The use of the program is not to steal anything. It was just a friendly joke I made.(No misunderstandings, ok) The program to use is Robot/lx (found on www.dasoft.com) and the phone script. All made By Andreas Garzotto. It retrieves the phonebook from Your phone and after that You can edit it and resend it to the phone. Klopper Donald wrote: > Please give us more info on how you "Stole" his phonebook. > What software did you use? /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:14:52 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: IrDA, Palm Pilot & Nokia. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Martin Bergvill wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:21:54 +0200, Tomas Moberg = wrote: > > The 7110 can store 5 numbers and two textfields. All other Nokia's can > store only name and one phonenumber sot the Vcard should look like I got a Vcard from a PalmPilot to my my Nokia8210 and then it was only = name and phone number. But when the same PalmPilot sent the Vcard to a = 7110 it was received as a lot of name,numbers and text. I guess the = receiving device filters out stuff it is not interested in. > I have never tried a hplx <-> Palm Pilot.. But I have gotten the Hplx = to > recevie a Vcard from the 7110..but only once. What parameters did You use? (I guess You used Andreas's IR.EXE) I got my 8210 to recieve a vcard ,in the format that You described, with: ir.exe oput vcard.vcf I could only receive from the Nokia8210 if I printed via IR (not send) = and used: ir.exe print on the hp. I must say that I do not realy understand the meaning of the different Classes and LSAP in IR.EXE. Could someone PLEASE enlighten me. > > phone and for some reason he had activated the IR on it. I took out > > my hp200lx and within seconds I had "stolen" his whole phone book. > > What phone did you do this with? It would be nice to transfer the > extended phonebook of the 7110 to the Hplx. I actualy recieved the phone book from a 7110. > I have transferred name/one number to the Hplx.. Again. What parameters did You use for IR.EXE? /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:59:01 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: sandstar@TECHNOLOGIST.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 18:24:44 -0500 Terry Owen writes: > As a Visor owner, I had great hopes for the Springboard 8 meg memory > module but it used batteries at too great a rate. I sold it and lost $20 > bucks or so. Used the money toward updating from 2meg to 8meg. There is a serial Springboard module. I wonder if it can be used to connect to an HP200LX. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:08:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:29:35 -0700 Colin Thompson writes: > I will admit to partial defection. I recently purchased a TRG Pro. > It's quite a machine and suits my current needs better than the LX. The > backlight is great for reading after the wife is asleep. I really > don't know how I got along without this feature. MY LXs ARE NOT FOR SALE! Could you comment on the screen quality of the TrgPro versus a Visor or a Palm IIIx? The latter two are available in stores, while the TrgPro is only mail/Web order. I don't like the Palm III screen at all, while I do like the Visor screen. I am considering the TrgPro as the only Palm device which would allow me to back up to my hplx, but screen quality with and without backlight is my primary consideration. Yes, I know the Vx has the very best screen ( I love it!), but I hate recharging batteries, and less than 1 month of battery life is not acceptable. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:50:48 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:42:28 +0000 Stefan Peichl writes: > I cannot believe what I just saw. The Handspring Visor's > Springboard is a proprietary, compatible to nothing, > new interface with a proper API. As someone else mentioned, the TrgPro supports CF I & II, which means the IBM Microdrive as well. It supports the 1 Gig one as well with no extra drivers. > As somebody else just mentioned in another context: What were > these guys smoking when they designed the Visor? This is IMHO > the death sentence for Handspring and no competition for the > Palm. Maybe, but right now the Visor is no. 2 in sales of all the palmtops, Palm being no. 1. As I understand it, Jeff Hawking envisioned something like the Gameboy cards, something which would allow all kinds of attachments and wires to hang from the back (it is open). This is not possible with CF, as it is designed to be inserted into something (closed on all sides). As a result, there are a few things available for the Visor which are not available for the CF (AFAIK, I am no expert), such as: 1-An internal modem with its own battery source. 2-A GPS system 3-A Gameboy card. 4-A pager 5-A bunch of other things I don't recall, but which clearly indicate that companies are supporting the Visor in a way and with a celerity that they did not support Wince devices with. While some of these things are also available for the standard port of the palm and Visor, with the Visor you can have two attachments instead of one. Whether this is a good idea or a death sentence for the batteries, I don't know. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:59:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: pcmcia card reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01BFDEBE.5274C4C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BFDEBE.5274C4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone know of any PCMCIA readers that are compatible with the HP200lx? = My serial port connection is very poor, rather than get it fixed, I am = looking at using a PCMCIA reader to transfer data from the 200lx to the desktop. I wasn't sure if any pcmcia readers were still made for the 200lx. I = remember there used to be=20 ads for them in the Palmtop Paper. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BFDEBE.5274C4C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone know of any PCMCIA readers that = are=20 compatible with the HP200lx?  My
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------=_NextPart_000_004A_01BFDEBE.5274C4C0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:33:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "David B. Rogers" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David B. Rogers" Subject: Re: pcmcia card reader Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken, If I understand correctly, you are looking for a pcmcia card reader to go in your desktop that will allow you to read and write pc cards from the 200LX. If so, email this guy: Dan Buchalter I bought four units from him which are double type III ports (i.e., there are two openings so that two cards or two hard drives or a card and a hard drive can be plugged in at the same time -- this allows copying to and from any combination of type I or II cards and type III drives -- or to and from the desktop drives.) They take up an ISA slot and a 5 1/4 " opening (such as for a cd-rom drive or old 5 1/4" floppy) and don't require any driver for Win95/98. My son and I have installed them and they work like a champ. I have a 200LX, Sharp Mobilon 4600, Omnibook 800CT and the desktop and constantly move files between cards, hard drives and the different computers with no problems whatsoever (as long as the programs are compatible with the computer to which I move them, of course.) E.g., the other day a friend sent me a book in Word 97 format on a 3.5" floppy. I put the floppy in the desktop, put one of Scott's 48 meg pc cards in the reader/writer, copied the book to the card, then put the card in the Sharp Mobilon. Using the Sharp's proprietary file viewer, I am now on Chapter 4 of the book. I could as easily have converted the book to TXT format, put it on the card, plugged it into the 200LX and used Vertical Reader to read it. Cost? About $30.00, brand new. I am not associated with Dan in any way except for being one very satisfied customer. I really encourage anyone needing this ability to contact Dan. The price is right and it works (I didn't mention this on the reflector until I had all of the units that I needed. :-)) David, WA7ZYQ > Ken London wrote: > > Anyone know of any PCMCIA readers that are compatible with > the HP200lx? My > serial port connection is very poor, rather than get it > fixed, I am looking > at using a PCMCIA reader to transfer data from the 200lx > to the desktop. > > I wasn't sure if any pcmcia readers were still made for > the 200lx. I remember there used to be > ads for them in the Palmtop Paper. -- "Them that's got is them that gets, but how you get the first is still a mystery to me." Ray Charles ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:35:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: pcmcia card reader Comments: To: "David B. Rogers" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "David B. Rogers" To: Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 4:33 PM Subject: Re: pcmcia card reader > Ken, > > If I understand correctly, you are looking for a pcmcia card > reader to go in your desktop that will allow you to read and > write pc cards from the 200LX. If so, email this guy: > > Dan Buchalter > > I bought four units from him which are double type III ports > (i.e., there are two openings so that two cards or two hard > drives or a card and a hard drive can be plugged in at the > same time -- this allows copying to and from any combination > of type I or II cards and type III drives -- or to and from > the desktop drives.) > > They take up an ISA slot and a 5 1/4 " opening (such as > for a cd-rom drive or old 5 1/4" floppy) and don't require > any driver for Win95/98. My son and I have installed them > and they work like a champ. I have a 200LX, Sharp Mobilon > 4600, Omnibook 800CT and the desktop and constantly move > files between cards, hard drives and the different computers > with no problems whatsoever (as long as the programs are > compatible with the computer to which I move them, of > course.) > > E.g., the other day a friend sent me a book in Word 97 > format on a 3.5" floppy. I put the floppy in the desktop, > put one of Scott's 48 meg pc cards in the reader/writer, > copied the book to the card, then put the card in the Sharp > Mobilon. Using the Sharp's proprietary file viewer, I am > now on Chapter 4 of the book. I could as easily have > converted the book to TXT format, put it on the card, > plugged it into the 200LX and used Vertical Reader to read > it. > > Cost? About $30.00, brand new. > > I am not associated with Dan in any way except for being one > very satisfied customer. I really encourage anyone needing > this ability to contact Dan. The price is right and it > works (I didn't mention this on the reflector until I had > all of the units that I needed. :-)) > > David, WA7ZYQ > > > Ken London wrote: > > > > Anyone know of any PCMCIA readers that are compatible with > > the HP200lx? My > > serial port connection is very poor, rather than get it > > fixed, I am looking > > at using a PCMCIA reader to transfer data from the 200lx > > to the desktop. > > > > I wasn't sure if any pcmcia readers were still made for > > the 200lx. I remember there used to be > > ads for them in the Palmtop Paper. > > -- > "Them that's got is them that gets, but how you get the > first is still a mystery to me." > Ray Charles > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > Thank you for your help. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:10:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Buford Subject: Kodak 1600mAhr NiMH AA Batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Peniel, I've been looking for these batteries locally ever since I heard about them. Thanks for letting me know where they were. I went down and picked up a set of 4 for $19.98 (last pkg. in stock) at the Redondo Beach CompUSA. This is a perfect time as the 1100mAhr Panasonic NiCad's I have been using for the last 3 yrs have apparently given up the ghost! Previously I would get ~6hrs/charge. This has recently decreased to 3.5 hrs/charge. As soon as I run a couple of cycles I'll post the results. I plan on recharging IN the PT using "Charge-It", by (all Hail) Peniel Romanelli!!!(shameless plug). I will start at 12hrs charging and look for the peak! My configuration follows: 200lx 6MB DS(in a 100lx case) 48MB SimpleTech CF card in a PCMCIA adaptor The SimpleTech card locks out light sleep so best is 6 hrs on the 1100mAh NiCad's. We'll see how the 1600mAh NiMH batteries do!!! Joe >------------------------------ >Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:42:28 -0400 >From: Peniel Romanelli >Subject: Random stuff... >Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:03:02 -0400 (EDT) >Hi gang - >To go back to a couple of items discussed earlier --- >Re. Kodak 1600 mAHr NiMH cells - These just showed up in a local >CompUSA. Also a charger/4 cell combo (for some reason the batteries >with this are only 1450 mAHr). Has anyone been running the Kodak 1600s >long enough to tell how they compare with other brands for >self-discharge and general usable hours in the LX? >Someone, I forgot who (senior moments...) mentioned using the RS >flourescent Pocket Flashlight to front-light the LX. Hung it on a cord >from his neck. I picked one up, and tried it. I often use my LX lying >on a couch (I'm a lazy ol' coot), so simply propped the light under my >chin. VERY bright light! -- Works quite nicely to illuminate both the >LX screen & keyboard. I've only used it occasionally, but with the >flourescent tube rated at 5W and using 2 AA cells, it probably has >pretty short battery life. >Later, >Peniel >------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:48:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Walgreen FUJI alkalines Comments: To: hobchi@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "hobchi" Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 8:32 AM Subject: Walgreen FUJI alkalines > > Hi Barry.. > How do yu know that the Walgreens are FUJIs? > They are good though, and cheep. > > > For alkalines I use Fuji batteries sold under the > > Walgreens brand name at Walgreens for $.50 each in > > small packs or .41 each in packs of 24 and they > seem to outlast everything else I've tried. I've > > been using them for years with never a problem. A few years ago someone on Compuserve on HPHAND said that his company made batteries and was testing all the competition. He wasn't involved in this but he looked into the results. He said that Fuji's outlasted any other alkaline batteries, according to their tests, and he explained that Walgreens and some other stores sold them as their house brand. I wish I could remember which other stores but Walgreens is all I remember. I did my own little not very accurate test comparing the Walgreens batteries with the Energizers I'd been using and I wasn't able to spot any difference. I didn't have any way to time my usage but at one point I did leave a little animation with music that I had written running continuously with the Walgreens batteries and the Energizers and the Energizers did run out quicker than the Walgreens batteries. And they cost less than half as much. I've been using them ever since. That was years ago and I don't remember the results or just how I did the test, just that the Walgreens batteries won. I don't remember if the difference was large or small. I've asked a few times who posted that message but nobody remembered anything about it but me. But I didn't dream it, I'm sure. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:53:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: IrDA, Palm Pilot & Nokia. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 20:14:52 +0200, Tomas Moberg wrote: > Martin Bergvill wrote: > > On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:21:54 +0200, Tomas Moberg wrote: > > > > > The 7110 can store 5 numbers and two textfields. All other Nokia's can > > store only name and one phonenumber sot the Vcard should look like > > I got a Vcard from a PalmPilot to my my Nokia8210 and then it was only name and phone number. But when the same PalmPilot sent the Vcard to a 7110 it was received as a lot of name,numbers and text. I guess the receiving device filters out stuff it is n > ot interested in. Yes maybe. I do not know.. > > I have never tried a hplx <-> Palm Pilot.. But I have gotten the Hplx to > > recevie a Vcard from the 7110..but only once. > > What parameters did You use? (I guess You used Andreas's IR.EXE) > I got my 8210 to recieve a vcard ,in the format that You described, with: > ir.exe oput vcard.vcf From Hplx->7110 I do as you with the line above. I have a clip in the Hplx phonebook and a macro that runs and transfer this to the phone.. The other way around I used ir.exe oget vcard.vcf I did get this to work only once..It rransferred the whole Vcard from the 7110 with several phonenumbers and textfields. > I could only receive from the Nokia8210 if I printed via IR (not send) and used: > ir.exe print > on the hp. I have not tested this. I will test And get back to you.. > I must say that I do not realy understand the meaning of the different > Classes and LSAP in IR.EXE. Could someone PLEASE enlighten me. I do not know.. > > > phone and for some reason he had activated the IR on it. I took out > > > my hp200lx and within seconds I had "stolen" his whole phone book. > > > > What phone did you do this with? It would be nice to transfer the > > extended phonebook of the 7110 to the Hplx. > > I actualy recieved the phone book from a 7110. Yes but you only get Name+default number. In the phonebook on the 7110 you can choose what number which should be the default number. This is the number you get transferred when you use the Robot/Lx script.. > > I have transferred name/one number to the Hplx.. > > Again. What parameters did You use for IR.EXE? I used the Robot/Lx script..I thought I used only ir.exe, but I did not. Since I can only get one number with the script this has not been interesting for me. I am okey with transfer from Hplx-> 7110. You can by entering a special keysequence dump all the info on the 7110(probably 8210 too) via irda. I have not tried this. I will test the print thing you do and get back to you. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:23:27 -0700 Reply-To: belcher@home.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Belcher Subject: BASIC available? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy, I just got an HP 95LX to play with. Is there any BASIC available still that I can program with - I was interested in using the serial port. From the archives it looks like Swift BASIC is what I really need but I can't find any trace of it. Anyone have leads? Chris ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:05:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Colin Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Fluff,RE: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! In-Reply-To: <20000625.151119.-143839.2.ddvteach@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The TRG Pro, Palm IIIxe and Vx share the same display. Tried the Vx for a few days, 8 megs is not enough. I did not compare the screen with the earlier Palm units. Note that TRG's OS 3.5 will be released next which will allow programs and data to be accessed directly from the CF card. TRG is a small firm and gives the same type of quality service as Mack or Hal. I would not worry about mail order from them. Beware that under heavy use with liberal doses of backlight, the TRG Pro eats alkalines as fast as my Times2 32 meg LX, about every 4 days. I am going to try the new MAHA NIMH cells from http://thomas-distributing.com/batteries.htm . I will try some of these in my LX too. On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:29:35 -0700 Colin Thompson writes: > I will admit to partial defection. I recently purchased a TRG Pro. > It's quite a machine and suits my current needs better than the LX. The > backlight is great for reading after the wife is asleep. I really > don't know how I got along without this feature. MY LXs ARE NOT FOR SALE! Could you comment on the screen quality of the TrgPro versus a Visor or a Palm IIIx? The latter two are available in stores, while the TrgPro is only mail/Web order. I don't like the Palm III screen at all, while I do like the Visor screen. I am considering the TrgPro as the only Palm device which would allow me to back up to my hplx, but screen quality with and without backlight is my primary consideration. Yes, I know the Vx has the very best screen ( I love it!), but I hate recharging batteries, and less than 1 month of battery life is not acceptable. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:47:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "David R. Birch" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David R. Birch" Subject: Re: ACAD Comments: To: LEONG FOO TEK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The HP200LX can run ACAD 2.6 or Release 10. I uploaded the necessary files to the S.U.P.E.R. site. You will need more than 2 megs of RAM in your HP200LX to store and run the program. David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:49:32 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? Comments: To: Longden Loo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, I am getting about 7 Buddy hours on my 32MB 2X 200LX using the same NiMH batteries that provided 12 to 16 Buddy hours of use on my 1MB, 1X 100LX. But, I am also doing a lot more work in these 7 hours than I did in the old 12 to 16 hours. Vic On 20 Jun 2000 13:15:03 -0700, Longden Loo wrote: > The Times2Tech website ( http://www.times2tech.com/speed.html ) says 10%-25% > reduction in battery life. > > It's been so long for me that I don't recall my own exact experience, but I > believe that's correct ... it was noticeable, I just remember that. And the > amount of reduction probably varies depending on whether you're using alkalines > or NiMH/NiCad (and which brands). > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:49:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: double speed disadvantages? Comments: To: "Guenther Helmuth E." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It's not amazing at all that this would come up. Speed is not a universal requirement for all computer users. Portable computers are always a compromise between power, battery life, size and weight, and, of course, cost. I do not need and do not want, a 733Mhz portable computer, unless it is as light as my 166MHz Omnibook 800CT and has the same reasonable battery life. Vic Roberts On 20 Jun 2000 15:35:02 -0700, "Guenther Helmuth E." wrote: > It is amazing how a subject "disadvantages of double speed" might come > up. > > I never read anything similar "disadvantages of 733 Mhz Pentium". > > Too fast or what? Or still to slow? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:10:40 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Walgreen FUJI alkalines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > I did my own little not very accurate test comparing the Walgreens > batteries with the Energizers I'd been using and I wasn't able to Consumer Reports tests batteries every year or so. Check out back issues in a library to see which was best. One point to remember though; the type of use can determine how a battery will perform. I'm still using disposable Lithiums but I may switch to cheaper alkylines. They won't last near as long but could be cheaper in the long run compared to Everyready. cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:53:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , 71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim <71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Palm Gadgets -to- HPLX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Been pondering. Isn't the Palm In/Out (OK, thinking Palm family of "III-series" here) a proprietary serial device in the bottom? If that's a "yes" and I think it is .... couldn't the brilliant folks on this list buy Palm Parts (or dig into a broken palm) and make a device th=3D at could emulate the bottom of a palm on one end and have an HP serial cable on the other? If it's not serial, well toss the rest of this message... . What I'm primarily thinking is a way to use the "Happy Hacking Cradle" Ý"HHC" (a btty powered PS/2 Keyboard Adapter)" for Palm III Devices http://www.pfuca.com with the LX !!!¨ I think I got the link from this list, maybe from an ad in a mag, too -- the cool thing about this is that it works w/ ANY PS/2 keyboard. Imagine plugging your favorite KB into your palm *and* having BTTYs in the device power the device, rather than draining your LX! The thing that got me thinking is that some 3rd party makes an adapter so Palm V-family owners can use Palm III-family devices -- if this is a serial thing, why can't we do the same? I doubt anyone would like a direct serial-to-palm plug because in this case the palm would be 90 degrees off, while you typed ... I suppose if there were a "Vertical Editor" that went along w/ "Vertical Reader," it'd be OK, but why write two programs (may need to write drivers for the cradle)? Besides, everyone has their favorite (sets of) text editors and word processors and most wouldn't use a "Vertical Editor" (guessing here). I know the list is full of smart tinkerers, driver writers and vendors, this would open up all the Palm-specific gadgets and add-ons to the LXers, i.e., modems, maybe the acoustic one w/ the toll-free email account, etc. Any thoughts? I emailed the PFU America Company (the HHC) guys and they said they are considering a cradle for the Visor. Emailed 'em back and said, "Hey, who do I talk to, to marry you guys up w/ a company (or companies) that would like to buy in bulk?" (and asked about the possibility/requirements for DOS drivers) and haven't heard anything.... Hal (et. al @ Thaddeus), if you all bite on this (no pun intended), do I get "brainstorm credit"? . Brainstorm credit "BC's" could go along w/ MUPs! Hope all's well, --tim PS. This could be *the* project to replace the backlight efforts for awhile, while we wait for a company to "accidently" make what we need for LX backlighting (they'd be making something for some odd defense project, we'd find it and it would illuminate our LXs.....). Tim Raymond --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: ttraymond@hotmail.com or 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:13:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Palm Gadgets -to- HPLX? Comments: To: 71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim wrote: > > Hi all, > > Been pondering. > > Isn't the Palm In/Out (OK, thinking Palm family of "III-series" > here) a proprietary serial device in the bottom? > Um, I am confused. Do you want to establish a serial link between a 200 and a palm? If so what good do you think that will do? I couldn't quite figure it out from your post. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:00:13 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: ccMail help with large messages Leon Phillips writes: > I am using ccLXPOP and ccMail to read emails but occasionally recieve an email > that is too large and the email is 'added as an attachment'. I can read it > but unfortunately if it has any attachments in it I cant detach them. How do > I do that? A sample looks like this: I got from somewhere (SUPER? SIMTEL?) a program which takes a atext file and unpacks MIME encode parts of it into separate files. The program is called MUNPACK. Try searching for it on the web. If you cant find it, drop me a note off list and I can send it to you. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:36:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Fluff: A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer) emulator Hi All, A while back many mentioned that their first computer was the Timex Sinclair TS1000. (Affectionately known as the "Little Black Wedge") Well, I found a great emulator this weekend that I've had a lot of fun with. It gave me another taste of that famous machine on my PC! It actually allows programming in the TS1000's proprietary version of BASIC and even allows basic programs, along with their data, (remember that?!) to be stored on your PC's hard drive with the simple command: save "progname" I'm thinking about transferring it to my HP200LX and writing a little program with this emulator, just to see how well it works and how fast it runs on the HP200LX. It looks like it would work great on a HP200LX. :-) If you'd like to check it out and bring those warm memories to the present, you'll be able to find it as XTNDR093.ZIP at the Simtel web site under "Emulators" in the MS DOS section. Have fun! :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:22:43 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: Re: IrDA, Palm Pilot & Nokia. Comments: To: Tomas Moberg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Don't worry your secret is safe with me. ;-) Just kidding. Thanks for the info. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tomas Moberg ÝSMTP:Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE¨ > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 6:06 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: IrDA, Palm Pilot & Nokia. > > The use of the program is not to steal anything. It was just a friendly > joke I made.(No misunderstandings, ok) > The program to use is Robot/lx (found on www.dasoft.com) > and the phone script. All made By Andreas Garzotto. > It retrieves the phonebook from Your phone and after that You can edit > it and resend it to the phone. > > Klopper Donald wrote: > > Please give us more info on how you "Stole" his phonebook. > > What software did you use? > > /tomas moberg > Uppsala > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:30:01 +0800 Reply-To: LEONG FOO TEK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LEONG FOO TEK Subject: Re: BASIC available? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MIME MULTIPART BOUNDARY=.962005234:+'1" --MIME MULTIPART BOUNDARY=.962005234:+'1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Id: <1381636523-2@yeos.com.my> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am not sure about Swift BASIC but GWBASIC (MS-DOS 4.0) and QBASIC (MS-DOS 5.0) work well with the 200LX. Regards, Leong ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: BASIC available? Author: belcher@home.com Date: 6/26/2000 7:23 AM Howdy, I just got an HP 95LX to play with. Is there any BASIC available still that I can program with - I was interested in using the serial port. From the archives it looks like Swift BASIC is what I really need but I can't find any trace of it. Anyone have leads? 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Have anyone from the list tried connecting the drive with the HP200LX (using an AC adapter, of course)? Do I need any special drivers? According to the manual the computer conform to the PCMCIA 2.0 standard. Thanks for your help ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:38:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Possible new source for free internet access for the HPLX(nationwide local access lines) Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A number of us have been using Freewwweb with WWW/LX on our LXs. As you have pointed out, freewwweb does not require any special software, so there is no way for it to display any advertising. Even the freewwweb statement that you must set the Home page of your browser to their Web site doesn't seem important. I use my freewwweb account with WWW/LX and POST/LX without ever using HV, and I use freewwweb on my laptop with Outlook and never open Netscape. Vic Roberts On 24 Jun 2000, John J Vanderstel wrote: > Hi All, > > I posted the following message to the list a while back, but to my great > surprise, I didn't get a single reaction to it. > > Here is a copy of my post, just in case the original post didn't actually > make it onto the list, somehow. (Please note that the normal Freewwweb > access software does not even have an advertising banner window, at all.) Ýsnip¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:38:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 24 Jun 2000 09:16:08 -0700, Peniel Romanelli wrote: > Sat, 24 Jun 2000 11:58:41 -0400 (EDT) Ýsnip¨ > 2 Buddy and ABC/LX both store information in XBRAM, so the info must be > available somewhere... Question is where? It should be possible to > post general info without compromising proprietary info from either > program. Ýsnip¨ I knew that Buddy used the XBRAM area, but this is the first time I heard that ABC/LX also does. Is it WWW/LX itself, or one of the other programs in the WWW/LX "suite"? If this is true, how does the ABC/LX (and/or the associated programs) work on non-LX machines where there is no XBRAM, or the area may be assigned to other functions? Is this perhaps the reason why QEMM says that illegal memory areas are being accessed when I try to use PE with POST/LX on my OB530 when using QEMM as the memory manager? Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:42:49 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Compaq Type II PCMCIA 3.5" Drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PCMCIA HDs contain an ATA drive controller in the PCMCIA card, and it is doubtful that the built-in DOS has the wherewithal to handle such a drive. (Based on the premise that the 200LX is an IBM PC in "pocket size" format and the ATA drive technology was built into IBM PC ATs and beyond). But, even if DOS could control the card, it most likely would kill the card slot as it would (I believe) require much more than the allowed current, as it would be powering the drive from the AA cells in the 200LX. So my opinion is that the card while it will physically fit inside the slot, will most likely fail on every other front (power, software). HTH, sorry, Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "LEONG FOO TEK" To: Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 3:25 AM Subject: Compaq Type II PCMCIA 3.5" Drive > Hi all, > > Recently I got hold of an old Compaq Contura AERO 4/33C with a Type II > PCMCIA 3.5" drive. > Have anyone from the list tried connecting the drive with the HP200LX (using an > AC adapter, of course)? Do I need any special drivers? According to the manual > the computer conform to the PCMCIA 2.0 standard. > > > Thanks for your help > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:58:11 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Palm Gadgets -to- HPLX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Palm have "real" serial ports on the bottom, just the connector is "odd." as for an adapter that would fit in a cradle and allow use of palm devices on a 200LX, I think you discount the effort involved in writing a suitable driver. The physical connection of a PS/2 port to a serial port is trivial (IMHO), since the PS/2 already "talks" serial. Power may be a problem though. HTH, Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim" <71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM> To: Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 11:53 PM Subject: Palm Gadgets -to- HPLX? Hi all, Been pondering. Isn't the Palm In/Out (OK, thinking Palm family of "III-series" here) a proprietary serial device in the bottom? If that's a "yes" and I think it is .... couldn't the brilliant folks on this list buy Palm Parts (or dig into a broken palm) and make a device th= at could emulate the bottom of a palm on one end and have an HP serial cable on the other? If it's not serial, well toss the rest of this message... . What I'm primarily thinking is a way to use the "Happy Hacking Cradle" Ý"HHC" (a btty powered PS/2 Keyboard Adapter)" for Palm III Devices http://www.pfuca.com with the LX !!!¨ I think I got the link from this list, maybe from an ad in a mag, too -- the cool thing about this is that it works w/ ANY PS/2 keyboard. Imagine plugging your favorite KB into your palm *and* having BTTYs in the device power the device, rather than draining your LX! The thing that got me thinking is that some 3rd party makes an adapter so Palm V-family owners can use Palm III-family devices -- if this is a serial thing, why can't we do the same? I doubt anyone would like a direct serial-to-palm plug because in this case the palm would be 90 degrees off, while you typed ... I suppose if there were a "Vertical Editor" that went along w/ "Vertical Reader," it'd be OK, but why write two programs (may need to write drivers for the cradle)? Besides, everyone has their favorite (sets of) text editors and word processors and most wouldn't use a "Vertical Editor" (guessing here). I know the list is full of smart tinkerers, driver writers and vendors, this would open up all the Palm-specific gadgets and add-ons to the LXers, i.e., modems, maybe the acoustic one w/ the toll-free email account, etc. Any thoughts? I emailed the PFU America Company (the HHC) guys and they said they are considering a cradle for the Visor. Emailed 'em back and said, "Hey, who do I talk to, to marry you guys up w/ a company (or companies) that would like to buy in bulk?" (and asked about the possibility/requirements for DOS drivers) and haven't heard anything.... Hal (et. al @ Thaddeus), if you all bite on this (no pun intended), do I get "brainstorm credit"? . Brainstorm credit "BC's" could go along w/ MUPs! Hope all's well, --tim PS. This could be *the* project to replace the backlight efforts for awhile, while we wait for a company to "accidently" make what we need for LX backlighting (they'd be making something for some odd defense project, we'd find it and it would illuminate our LXs.....). Tim Raymond --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: ttraymond@hotmail.com or 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:18:55 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Hi Victor - 01h53m32s ago ... On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Victor Roberts wrote: > I knew that Buddy used the XBRAM area, but this is the first > time I heard that ABC/LX also does. Is it WWW/LX itself, or > one of the other programs in the WWW/LX "suite"? If this is > true, how does the ABC/LX (and/or the associated programs) work > on non-LX machines where there is no XBRAM, or the area may be > assigned to other functions? Is this perhaps the reason why > QEMM says that illegal memory areas are being accessed when I > try to use PE with POST/LX on my OB530 when using QEMM as the > memory manager? Don't know about WWW/LX and XBRAM. Could be just the time-limited demo version of ABC/LX that uses it, but I think I've seen a line like "loading data from XBRAM" during bootup when ABCTSR loads. AFAIK only D&A would know if PE or Post/LX also use XBRAM. I didn't think so... If XBRAM is the same as Extended BIOS Data area, then ABC/LX and all battery charge control programs use it to extend the 6-hour fast-charge time, and to select slow charging. My idea is to locate the area of XBRAM related to power management, and find what data is valid, so it could be restored in software, without pulling all the batteries... Later, Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:18:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Kodak 1600mAhr NiMH AA Batteries Comments: To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:46:19 -0400 (EDT) Hi, Joe - 15h36m05s ago ... On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Joseph Buford wrote: > This is a perfect time as the 1100mAhr Panasonic NiCad's I have been = using > for the last 3 yrs have apparently given up the ghost! Previously I = would > get ~6hrs/charge. This has recently decreased to 3.5 hrs/charge. As = soon as > I run a couple of cycles I'll post the results. I plan on recharging IN > the PT using "Charge-It", by (all Hail) Peniel Romanelli!!!(shameless > plug). I will start at 12hrs charging and look for the peak! My > configuration follows: > 200lx 6MB DS(in a 100lx case) > 48MB SimpleTech CF card in a PCMCIA adaptor Thanks for the shameless plug! You may need to try an initial charge of a lot more than 12 hours -- maybe 18 or more. When I first installed Panasonic 1500 mAHr cells from Digi-Key, they took a little less than 18 hours before the hump and -deltaV. Later, Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:58:14 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ABC/LX itself seems to keep some sort of registration information in that area. Your demo version of ABC/LX is actually a full working version and the XBRAM area keeps track of your "limited trial period" usage. Once you're a paid customer, I imagine the area is used to keep registration information. I believe I found all this out before I ever installed WWW/LX, so the usage may be on a "per program" basis. No comment on the reported conflicts with PE and Post/LX and QEMM .... but it does sound like a plausible explanation that D&A is better suited to affirm. I know Avi has said he's used those programs on his 800CT, but memory management under QEMM may be quite a different story. Probably the simplest test would be to disable QEMM (or boot without it) and see if the DA software runs. Or just use the VI editor and NetTamer . - Longden Victor Roberts on 06/26/2000 04:38:14 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions > 2 Buddy and ABC/LX both store information in XBRAM, so the info must be > available somewhere... Question is where? It should be possible to > post general info without compromising proprietary info from either > program. I knew that Buddy used the XBRAM area, but this is the first time I heard that ABC/LX also does. Is it WWW/LX itself, or one of the other programs in the WWW/LX "suite"? If this is true, how does the ABC/LX (and/or the associated programs) work on non-LX machines where there is no XBRAM, or the area may be assigned to other functions? Is this perhaps the reason why QEMM says that illegal memory areas are being accessed when I try to use PE with POST/LX on my OB530 when using QEMM as the memory manager? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:17:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: External speaker jack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > >Ed Padin wrote: >> You're better off compressing the wave file to a low quality >MP3... oh, >> wait, we can't use those can we? > >Beats me! But I can tell you this: My voice mail provider does >not provide _me_ with MP3 files of the messages. Here'what I was thinking: - Pick up email from voice provider using pop client from some server - Convert from wav to {some compressed format good for palmtop} - mail to another email account. Although, this is a bit complex to set up for the average mortal I don't it's too hard for a fairly technical non-programmer. I would use Linux+(sendmail or procmail)+fetchmail+dosemu to accomplish this. This also assumes that I can find a program to do compressed (or at least truncated) sound files on the LX and a wav converter to this format. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:19:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Here's an interesting looking palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I doubt it. I think this thing is targeted at kids only (hence all the colorful falvors). It's like a gameboy+wireless PDA. > >I suspect there will be a revision that will expand the unit a >bit (think >RIM >pager w/keyboard) and then they will be popular. Heck, they could make >a lot of money with cheap wireless networking modules for conventional >PDAs (WinCE/Palm/etc.)... > >Ken > >> I saw one of these in CompUSA the other day. Cute, but not >very practical >in my view. Have you seen the keys on those things? They are >very tiny and >so closely spaced that even little children would have trouble >with them. >The keys seem OK for an occasional single press in response to >a question, >but this is billed as a communicator! >> >> I predict doom for this device as soon as the novelty wears off. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:27:06 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Re: Fluff: A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer) emulator I, too, had a TS1000, and then a TS2068, which got me through college the second time--I used a BASIC template and the Sinclair BASIC editing features to write my term papers, saving files on cassette. I even did my term project for science methods class (teaching) on the 2068--a program to demonstrate an electrical circuit, using the Sinclair BASIC graphics commands--I got an A! A key element in deciding to get an LX was that I used to touch type on the TS1000! Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Let the little children come to Me," Jesus said, "and don't keep them away. The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." -Matthew 19:14 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:32:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: BASIC available? Comments: To: "belcher@home.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Qbasic may work for ya but it's kinda big for a 95. I think gwbasic is smaller but more limited. Let me know if you need either one. >-----Original Message----- >From: Chris Belcher Ýmailto:belcher@HOME.COM¨ >Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 7:23 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ BASIC available? > > >Howdy, > > I just got an HP 95LX to play with. Is there any BASIC available >still that I can program with - I was interested in using the serial >port. From the archives it looks like Swift BASIC is what I >really need >but I can't find any trace of it. > > Anyone have leads? > >Chris > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:41:31 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian McIlvaine Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: CF peripherals MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable D DV Wrote: ------------------------------ >Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:50:48 -0400 >From: D Dv >Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! >Maybe, but right now the Visor is no. 2 in sales of all the palmtops, = Palm being no. 1. As I understand it, Jeff Hawking envisioned something = like the Gameboy cards, something which would allow all kinds of attachmen= ts and wires to hang from the back (it is open). This is not possible = with CF, as it is designed to be inserted into something (closed on all = sides). ------------------------------ There is nothing in the CF spec that requires it to be enclosed on all = sides. I believe that there are CF style modems - though this is definitel= y in the "I think I heard a buddy say he knew someone who saw..." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:37:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Here's an interesting looking palmtop Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I called them and they were very adamant that this would be targeted at kids/high schools. They want to put transmitters/receivers in schools/campuses/malls and city downtowns so that kids can send messages to each other through the internet or directly through RF. They also mentioned that you would be able to buy such a device and install it at home as well. Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Padin" To: Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 8:19 AM Subject: Re: Here's an interesting looking palmtop > I doubt it. I think this thing is targeted at kids only (hence all the > colorful falvors). It's like a gameboy+wireless PDA. > > > > >I suspect there will be a revision that will expand the unit a > >bit (think > >RIM > >pager w/keyboard) and then they will be popular. Heck, they could make > >a lot of money with cheap wireless networking modules for conventional > >PDAs (WinCE/Palm/etc.)... > > > >Ken > > > > >> I saw one of these in CompUSA the other day. Cute, but not > >very practical > >in my view. Have you seen the keys on those things? They are > >very tiny and > >so closely spaced that even little children would have trouble > >with them. > >The keys seem OK for an occasional single press in response to > >a question, > >but this is billed as a communicator! > > >> > >> I predict doom for this device as soon as the novelty wears off. > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:42:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Fluff: A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer) emulator Comments: To: Mark Shields MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep! I went from a ZX81 to a 2068 to a Sinclair QL when I was in high school. Wrote tons of little programs, but the big one was a 3D drafting program i wrote for the QL for a science fair. Then I interfaced to a VCR remote to take snapshots of each view of a moving virtual camera and animate the 3D images. Klunky but it worked! Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Shields" To: Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Fluff: A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer) emulator > I, too, had a TS1000, and then a TS2068, which got me through > college the second time--I used a BASIC template and the > Sinclair BASIC editing features to write my term papers, > saving files on cassette. I even did my term project for > science methods class (teaching) on the 2068--a program to > demonstrate an electrical circuit, using the Sinclair BASIC > graphics commands--I got an A! > > A key element in deciding to get an LX was that I used to > touch type on the TS1000! > > Mark Shields > > |\ _,,,---,,_ > /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ > |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) > beamsplitter@juno.com > http://www.stmattpitt.org > "Let the little children come to Me," Jesus said, "and don't keep > them away. The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." > -Matthew 19:14 > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:57:06 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: CF peripherals MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There are CF modems and ethernet cards. I have a Xircom CF ethnet . Works well and is pretty low power. > > >>Maybe, but right now the Visor is no. 2 in sales of all the >palmtops, Palm being no. 1. As I understand it, Jeff Hawking >envisioned something like the Gameboy cards, something which >would allow all kinds of attachments and wires to hang from >the back (it is open). This is not possible with CF, as it is >designed to be inserted into something (closed on all sides). >------------------------------ > >There is nothing in the CF spec that requires it to be >enclosed on all sides. I believe that there are CF style >modems - though this is definitely in the "I think I heard a >buddy say he knew someone who saw..." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:05:04 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I knew that Buddy used the XBRAM area, but this is the first > time I heard that ABC/LX also does. Is it WWW/LX itself, or Vic, ABC/lx uses that area but I am fairly certain that www/lx does not use xbram for anything. Look elsewhere for your conflict troubles! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:40:44 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ahzilly@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: connecting in Japan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:36:39 +0100 (BST) Just found out that neither BTCellnet nor Vodafone have roaming agreements with Japan. So am considering using the Tokyo compuserve node via landline. I need to know if Japanese phone jacks are RJ11. Anyone know? TIA, Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:38:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Springboard is not a CF slot, but shares the same pin-out as CF Type I cards to ease in 3rd party development of add-on hardware. Sure having a CF slot in a palm would be nice, standard, and reusable but thats not what Handspring was looking for, and besides you can get a CF equipped palm from TRG for about $329. The high point of the springboard standard is that all software/drivers necessary to use the expansion hardware are located on the module itself and are automatically installed when the device is inserted and removed when the device is removed... this makes add ons a no-brainer for the general population... just buy the GPS, MP3, Game module and plug it in... no worry about installation, no worry about outdated drivers etc. etc. etc. and like most things palm it cleans up after itself upon exit. No its not CF, and its not as flexible or reusable on the 'next' handheld... but its expansion at a level the general population (ie: mass market) can understand... plug it in and it works. Dan driden@stlnet.com -----Original Message----- From: A Meshar To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Sunday, June 25, 2000 12:46 AM Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! >Stefan Peichl wrote: >> I cannot believe what I just saw. The Handspring Visor's >> Springboard is a proprietary, compatible to nothing, >> new interface with a proper API. > > Ý...¨ > > >> This is IMHO >> the death sentence for Handspring and no competition for the >> Palm. > >Agree completely. Someone told me that and I did not believe >it myself. > >> Who is nowadays going to buy equipment solely usable in one >> device with a life expectancy of one or two years? > >Optimist!!! ... > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:46:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yujin Nagasawa Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yujin Nagasawa Subject: Re: connecting in Japan Comments: To: ahzilly@cs.com Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I don't know if it is called RJ11, but Japanese phone jacks are the same as what is used in the United States. Yujin > Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:36:39 +0100 (BST) > > Just found out that neither BTCellnet nor Vodafone have roaming > agreements with Japan. So am considering using the Tokyo compuserve > node via landline. I need to know if Japanese phone jacks are RJ11. > Anyone know? > > TIA, Tony > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:55:57 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! In-Reply-To: <002501bfdf95$5c2960c0$6e94a8c0@dan-dell.pulitzer.net> from "Dan Ridenhour" at Jun 26, 2000 12:38:37 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The high point of the springboard standard is that all software/drivers > necessary to use the expansion hardware are located on the module itself and > are automatically installed when the device is inserted and removed when the > device is removed... this makes add ons a no-brainer for the general > population... just buy the GPS, MP3, Game module and plug it in... no worry > about installation, no worry about outdated drivers etc. etc. etc. and > like most things palm it cleans up after itself upon exit. Dan: It seems to me that if the designers went to so much trouble designing this fantastic interface, it wouldn't have been that much extra to make it work also with standard CF cards. Perhaps even a CF-to-CF adaptor? I can see the advantage of this type of interface, but it would have been so much more powerful if they took that extra step to include CF as well. (Forgive me is this issue has already been addresses... I haven't followed this thread very closely.) -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:56:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Walgreen FUJI alkalines - addendum Comments: To: al chin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: ; Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 8:47 AM Subject: Walgreen FUJI alkalines - addendum > Barry, et al > re alkaline batt usage... > On a long (3 mth) trip a koupla yeers ago I used alkalines > exclusively. Most things were konsistant except for da batt > brand which I found in stalls and shops along the way. I found > that the stalls in night mkts were very cheep but very bad. > The ones frum photo shops in upskale malls were the best. I > used the ACE util to keep track of my batt usage, da results were: > > SONY LR6 SGE 36 > Mitsubishi LR6 (G) 32 > Panasonic LR6T/4B 28 > Fuji (film) 24 > Varta LR6 Titanium 22 > Walgreens batts gave about 26 hrs. I've never done that sort of test. I think I'm most surprised that Sony was so good. I've used their batteries a few times and seemed to get shorter life out of them than most. But thats just an impression, not the result of testing. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:36:54 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ahzilly@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: connecting in Japan Comments: To: Yujin Nagasawa MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:25:22 +0100 (BST) 39m09s ago ... On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:46:13 -0400, Yujin Nagasawa wrote: > I don't know if it is called RJ11, but > Japanese phone jacks are the same as > what is used in the United States. Thanks Yujin! Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:05:42 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: 1 Gig CF II drive for $499 Comments: To: Sputnik In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The current limitation on the pcmcia slot is NOT because of running of off batteries, it is an internal regulator limitation. Some (few?) devices will run off AC that won't run off batteries, probably due to initial high drain conditions causing a voltage sag from used batteries. At least I believe that this was the concensus of the list in the past. Pete On 24 Jun 2000, at 4:25, Sputnik wrote: > you dont even need that with alittle building/hacking you can add an > external battery-pack to the AC adapter socket and then your LX is rated > for any voltage card (what was it again 3.3, 5 and 12 as long as AC > adapter is installed!!) of course make sure you have plenty of V, mA, for > the job > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:10:43 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <135r8Y-0nosNMC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I don't think the visor will die so easily. There are already quite a few companies committed to making springboard cards. The main advantage to the springboard format is that it can include software and hardware and the software can automatically be incorporated into the system's functionality. Think of the springboard slot more like a slot on a desktop motherboard. You can plug in a card that has hardware and BIOS extentions and the computer can imediately make use of the hardware via the BIOS extensions. While I tend to agree that a new slot is a waste this is probably something that can't be accomplished via existing formats without much user intervention. Pete PS. Now if you want to talk about stupid new designs that are unnecessary look at Sony's memory stick. A compact flash card in a new shape, just what we needed. On 24 Jun 2000, at 16:42, Stefan Peichl wrote: > I cannot believe what I just saw. The Handspring Visor's > Springboard is a proprietary, compatible to nothing, > new interface with a proper API. > > No Compact Flash, modem or lan cards in CF format will work! > > As somebody else just mentioned in another context: What were > these guys smoking when they designed the Visor? This is IMHO > the death sentence for Handspring and no competition for the > Palm. > > Who is nowadays going to buy equipment solely usable in one > device with a life expectancy of one or two years? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:14:36 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max In-Reply-To: <88256908.00823511.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Not anymore but I originally found it by going to an online camera store and searching the accessories for the Canon EOS line. It is well described when you find it. Pete On 24 Jun 2000, at 8:22, Longden_Loo@candle.com wrote: > > > > I'll have to look into this D cell adapter. Do you have a part number? > > - Longden > > > > > > "Peter W. Borders" on 06/23/2000 07:06:39 PM > > Please respond to tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) > Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max > > > > The problem with a rechargable solution is that the battery is usually dead just > when you need it, unless you leave it > charging all the time. Also, when it dies in the field you are stuck unless > there is a source of normal batteries. I have taken > several hundred pictures with the D cell adaptor and it is still going strong, > thats how I like things. Also, if it dies in the field I > can buy replacement batteries anywhere and they cost less than half what a > single 2CR5 would cost. > > Pete > > On 23 Jun 2000, at 17:20, Colin Thompson wrote: > > > Do yourself a big favor and by a the nicad charger and an extra battery. My > > wife and I each have two batteries and we share one charger. We have yet to > > run out of juice. > > > > PS, if you do alot of picture taking at one time you can get the D cell > > battery pack from the canon eos and adapt it for use > > in the a50, S10 or S20 very easily. I have yet to use up the first set of D > > cells. A little bulky but it hooks on your belt so it > > isn't too bad and sure saves over the price of 2CR5 batteries. Also > > www.wholesaleadvantage.com has great prices on 2CR5 > > batteries, $4.92 each last time I looked with reasonable shipping. > > > > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:21:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Basic for 95lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>I just got an HP 95LX to play with. Is there any BASIC available still that I can program with - I was interested in using the serial port. From the archives it looks like Swift BASIC is what I really need but I can't find any trace of it.<<<<<<<< GWBasic works fine on the 95lx. Especially if you keep your lines short so they fit in the 40 column screen. If not, you can scroll around it but I find that to be a hassle. I can't remember if I tried Qbasic on the 95 but I won't be surprised if it works, too. SwiftBasic was sold by Ace Electronics, if I remember right. They've been out of business for years. I don't know who the author was. There was also a Forth written just for the 95lx. I can't recall it's name now. I do remember that it was pretty expensive and I've been told it was pretty buggy, although I've never used it. I've seen it available for download somewhere in the past year or two but I can't remember where. It wouldn't be legal but I don't know if the authors are around or not. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:51:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Malka Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Malka Subject: Re: FSB Comments: To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1. The author has dissappeared and cannot be contacted. He may even have died. You need to register it to remove the evaluation copy but the owner no longer exists. 2. You could export that person as a gedcom and then import into the other database. Then you create the proper linkages to the families you want. Jeff Malka ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Buford To: Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 4:54 PM Subject: FSB > Question for users of Family Scrapbook on a 200lx. > 1) I have not been able to contact the programer Chris Long to register > this shareware. Does anyone know how to set the program so it does not do > the "Evaluation copy" screens? > > 2)Is there an easy way to copy a person record from one database and paste > it ito another? > > Thanks for any help > > Joe > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:24:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>Could you comment on the screen quality of the TrgPro versus a Visor or a Palm IIIx? The latter two are available in stores, while the TrgPro is only mail/Web order. I don't like the Palm III screen at all, while I do like the Visor screen.<<<<<<<< I have a Palm 3x and the screen on it is essentially the same as the one on the Palm V. I can't see any difference. But it's very much better than the Palm 3 screen. I refused to buy a Palm because of the poor screen until I saw the 3x. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:42:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Consumer reports battery check MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>Consumer Reports tests batteries every year or so. Check out back issues in a library to see which was best. One point to remember though; the type of use can determine how a battery will perform.<<<<<< I lost faith in Consumer Reports when they tested early home computers. They reccomended Commodore as the only practical home computer because of it's speed and because more software was available for it that for any of the others. They, claimed it was far faster than the Radio Shack Color Computer, the Radio Shack Model 3, the Apple, and 2 or 3 others that I can't recall. I've used all the computers they compared and Commodore was by far the slowest, no matter how you measured it. The Model 3 was by far the fastest of the ones they compared but they claimed it was too slow to be practical. As for more software, the Apple had 10 times more software available than all the rest put together, and the quality of Apple software was much better. The Model 3 was second there. Probably the Commodore was about 3rd. I haven't trusted their opinions since. They're either selling their opinions or they just don't know what they're talking about. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:12:52 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Japanese PJT2 Project Manager Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Listers. I use the great Project Management software PJT2, written in Japan. While it is a really smart system,there are a few features which remain a mystery due to the fact that the only user info I have was translated from the Japanese and is incomplete. I think I got it from SUPER. I am in Japan for the next few months, and so have access to Kanji/Katakana PCs, and interpreters. I'd like to find the author's site if he/she has one, or make contact in some way, and see if I can get the original manual. Can anyone help please? Offline contact from Tokyo LXers also welcomed Cheers... Roger Whitmarsh, in Wonderful Tokyo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:07:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: ABC/LX, NiMH and charging in the 200LX Comments: To: John & Wendy Maldovan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes, I do it all the time. No problems except with one brand of modem that needed an unusually high amount of current. What kind of problem are you having? Vic Roberts On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:44:21 -0400, "John & Wendy Maldovan" wrote: > Has anyone tried to rechage NiMH batteries in the 200LX while running ABC/LX > ? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:07:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: Longden Loo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden, Our local OfficeMax has three A50's left, but I don't like the idea of the special and expensive battery. They also have a Kodak DC215 (for $299) which uses 4 AA cells and also has CF. I have used older model Kodak digital cameras before and found them to be perfectly acceptable for simple pictures. Can you compare the two for me? BTW - I have a couple of Pentax 35mm cameras with a number of lenses and other accessories for the "good stuff". What I want now is a rather decent, low cost digital camera for those shots which I just "must" e-mail to people Vic On 22 Jun 2000 20:26:16 -0700, Longden Loo wrote: > All issues regarding CF-II and 1 gig Microdrives, and SmartMedia cards are > history for me, now that I've gotten a Canon A50 camera. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 03:08:04 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter W. Borders wrote: > The main advantage to the springboard format is that it can include = software and hardware and the software can > automatically be incorporated into the system's functionality. Think of = the springboard slot more like a slot on a desktop > motherboard. You can plug in a card that has hardware and BIOS extention= s and the computer can imediately make use of > the hardware via the BIOS extensions. the same applies to PCMCIA cards. The difference is, that PCMCIA is a well defined standard accepted by all companies which ship their products with this kind of slot. For what reason do I have to buy a Springboard modem or memory card, if I already own the corresponding PCMCIA card? For only one reason: to let the producers of the Springboard cards earn some money out of my pocket. I don't envy them. If they find enough customers to live from, fine! But they won't get me as a customer. Or said in the words of a german saying: There is nothing stupid enough to not find following. (Es ist nichts so dumm, als da=DF es keine Gefolgschaft f=E4nde) This saying was usually applied to politics, but politics loose importance and technologie gains importance, but the saying remains true, like any good philosophies. > PS. Now if you want to talk about stupid new designs that are > unnecessary look at Sony's memory stick. A compact flash > card in a new shape, just what we needed. I totally disagree, because the memory stick has an advantage, which no technical product since the invention of the computer ever had: It fits into the chewing gum pocket of my jeans ;-) I'll design memory stick "jewel cases" from denim material and market them under denim.jewel.com. I'll go public on NASDAQ the next month and become a millionaire within the first day. This is the kind of smart inventions, we need more and more to keep the stock market merry-go-round running at high speed! Then I don't have to write palmtop freeware any longer. I wonder anyway why it takes so long to become a millionaire by writing palmtop freeware? Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:29:45 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <136jqx-0pS4NEC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable On 27 Jun 2000, at 3:08, Stefan Peichl wrote: > Peter W. Borders wrote: > > > The main advantage to the springboard format is that it can include so= ftware and hardware and the software can > > automatically be incorporated into the system's functionality. Think o= f the springboard slot more like a slot on a desktop > > motherboard. You can plug in a card that has hardware and BIOS extenti= ons and the computer can imediately make use of the > > hardware via the BIOS extensions. > > the same applies to PCMCIA cards. The difference is, that > PCMCIA is a well defined standard accepted by all companies > which ship their products with this kind of slot. > I don't know of any pcmcia cards that contain both hardware and software w= ith the one exception of the Thinfax card and it was hardly a raging sucess. Also, I don't know of any way that the pcmcia = standard can AUTOMATICALLY execute the included software, that is the key reason behind the springboard. > For what reason do I have to buy a Springboard modem or memory > card, if I already own the corresponding PCMCIA card? > So because you already own a pcmcia modem you will never buy any other sim= ilar format? What about a compact flash modem for the latest handheld? What about the new faster whatever that jus= t came out. You talk about the 2-3 year lifespan of the system but you neglect to mention the similar lfespan of t= he device, be it pcmcia, CF or whatever. I can see CF soon virtually replacing pcmcia totally, even when the smaller form fac= tor is not as important as in a laptop. Also, it is a rather limited view that has the visor disappearing in 2-3 years, more lik= ely there will be newer more powerful visors just as there are palms and they too will have springboard slots. > For only one reason: to let the producers of the Springboard > cards earn some money out of my pocket. > Of course that is part of it but if that was all there would not be much o= f a market. The added functionality of the springboard slot makes up for the need for a new format, of course to someone that is = still using a computer that is not longer made the arguement is rather moot. :-) > I don't envy them. If they find enough customers to live from, > fine! But they won't get me as a customer. > > Or said in the words of a german saying: > There is nothing stupid enough to not find following. > (Es ist nichts so dumm, als da=DF es keine Gefolgschaft f=E4nde) > > This saying was usually applied to politics, but politics > loose importance and technologie gains importance, but the > saying remains true, like any good philosophies. > > > PS. Now if you want to talk about stupid new designs that are > > unnecessary look at Sony's memory stick. A compact flash > > card in a new shape, just what we needed. > > I totally disagree, because the memory stick has an advantage, > which no technical product since the invention of the computer > ever had: It fits into the chewing gum pocket of my jeans ;-) > > I'll design memory stick "jewel cases" from denim material > and market them under denim.jewel.com. I'll go public on NASDAQ > the next month and become a millionaire within the first day. > This is the kind of smart inventions, we need more and more to > keep the stock market merry-go-round running at high speed! > Then I don't have to write palmtop freeware any longer. > > I wonder anyway why it takes so long to become a millionaire > by writing palmtop freeware? > > Stefan > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:32:08 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions Comments: To: "F. Kaufman" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fred, and all, especially D&A, I owe all you an appology for not keeping my mind on the task at hand. I read "ABC/LX" but thought "WWW/LX". My mistake. Too many "/LX" programs I guess Vic On 26 Jun 2000, "F. Kaufman" wrote: > > I knew that Buddy used the XBRAM area, but this is the first > > time I heard that ABC/LX also does. Is it WWW/LX itself, or > > Vic, ABC/lx uses that area but I am fairly certain that www/lx does not > use xbram for anything. Look elsewhere for your conflict troubles! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 03:56:14 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter W. Borders wrote: > I don't know of any pcmcia cards that contain both hardware and software= ... very popular examples on this list are ATA flash cards vs. linear flash = cards. Linear flash cards need drivers to run, whereas ATA flash cards have the = driver implemented on board. SanDisk explains this in detail in their FAQ. > So because you already own a pcmcia modem you will never buy any other = similar format? sure I will, but only if I know it is usable in other devices as well, as = long as I plan to use other devices in the future. If I know for sure, that = the Visor will be my one and only device, I wouldn't care about compatibility. > The added functionality of the springboard slot makes up for the need = for a new format, I doubt that the PCMCIA association is not aware of the needs for new improvements. But that Handspring says, we do what we need and don't care about existing standards reminds me of Microsoft, but Handspring is not (yet) Microsoft. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:45:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens Comments: To: barry@FBTC.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:24:45 -0500 Barry writes: > >>>>>Could you comment on the screen quality of the TrgPro versus a > Visor or a Palm IIIx? The latter two are available in stores, while > the TrgPro is only mail/Web order. I don't like the Palm III > screen at all, while I do like the Visor screen.<<<<<<<< > > I have a Palm 3x and the screen on it is essentially the same as the > one on the Palm V. I can't see any difference. But it's very much > better than the Palm 3 screen. I refused to buy a Palm because of > the poor screen until I saw the 3x. Today I saw a Palm III and a Palm IIIx side by side at a Staples (I did not see the IIIxe there). The screen of the III is greenish while that of the IIIx is yellowish/amber. I kind of liked the greenish better. I also saw the IIIxe at a Circuit City (but not the others). The screen looked more acceptable to me, but the lighting of the store was better than at Staples, so I don't know if there is an actual difference between the screens of the IIIx and the IIIxe. By the way, from what I have seen, the screen of the Visor is only second to that of the Palm Vx (the best Palm screen I have ever seen, though I don't care for some aspects of that Palm device). I also saw the HP Pocket PC. It looks totally cool! If I had not read the reviews, I would have though this was the best one in the store (kind of heavy though). Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:50:12 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <136kba-10nCQiC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 27 Jun 2000, at 3:56, Stefan Peichl wrote: > Peter W. Borders wrote: > > > I don't know of any pcmcia cards that contain both hardware and software... > > very popular examples on this list are ATA flash cards vs. linear flash cards. > Linear flash cards need drivers to run, whereas ATA flash cards have the driver > implemented on board. SanDisk explains this in detail in their FAQ. That is an over simplifaction on the part of Sandisk. ATA flash cards have a controller built in that sits between the pcmcia socket and the flash memory that makes the flash memory appear as if it was an ATA device. This is not software that runs on your computer, if it was there would have to be software that was compatible with EVERY computer and OS that you might plug the card into. What I was refering to with regards to the springboard slot is the abiliby of the card to actualy have software that hooks into or even complete takes over the function of the device it is pugged into. in simpler terms you could plug in an MP3 player card that had all the hardware for MP3 decoding and playback and a new application would appear on the device to play MP3 files. Maybe it would even change the function of the device to look and act like a dedicated MP3 player as long as it was plugged in. This gives companies tremendous power in totally retargeting the devie for a new use. As a cloer to home example, it would be entirely possible to implement a springboard card that contained not only a pcmcia slot but the entire OS to emulate an HP200LX, right down to the internal memory. Of course in this example there would be issues with the keyboard and emulation but somebody could make a linux version just as easily. Or a business that needed smart inventory control could make a springboard that would turn the thing into a barcode reader complete with inventory database and upload capabilities. I think the problem is that you are looking at the springboard as a general purpose thing like CF but it is not and it really can't be since any code in a springboard has to work with a specific OS and hardware set. Instead think of it as an expansion port just for the visor. If you have a IBM thinkpad you can't put anything you want in the internal bay, you have to have things made for the thinkpad. Same goes for other laptops that have versions of multifunctional bays. Well that is what the springboard is for the visor, a multifunction bay specifically for it. I would have liked to see a CF slot AS WELL as the springboard. One for generic hardware (CF) and one as an expansion bay for the specific device (springboard). > > So because you already own a pcmcia modem you will never buy any other similar format? > > sure I will, but only if I know it is usable in other devices as well, as long > as I plan to use other devices in the future. If I know for sure, that the Visor > will be my one and only device, I wouldn't care about compatibility. > > > The added functionality of the springboard slot makes up for the need for a new format, > > I doubt that the PCMCIA association is not aware of the needs for new > improvements. But that Handspring says, we do what we need and don't > care about existing standards reminds me of Microsoft, but Handspring > is not (yet) Microsoft. Handspring hasn't tried to reinvent any standard, they just added more expandablility to thier device than anyone else which I think is great. You will never see the functionality of the springboard in any generic standard like CF or pcmcia since there is no possible way to implement it. It can only be implemented on a device by device basis and no company would even try for something that is meant to be generic. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:54:48 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Eng. & Industrial Projects" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Eng. & Industrial Projects" Subject: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The main advantage to the springboard format is that it >can include software and hardware and the software can > automatically be incorporated into the system's functionality. >Think of the springboard slot more like a slot on a desktop > motherboard. You can plug in a card that has hardware and >BIOS extentions and the computer can imediately make use of > the hardware via the BIOS extensions. While I tend to agree >that a new slot is a > I smile when I see this and other discussions on the net about the visor and how it will load software from its expansion cards, almost as this is a new technology. 8 years ago when I bought my Psion LZ64 (64K RAM 8-) ) the comms module plugged straight into the top and loaded the LZ<>PC comms software, and popped another option up onto the screen. Battery life was 3-4 months on a 9V battery, and with a 32K Datapak, it serviced my needs more than adequately. In fact I see psion still sell them, I assume to the vertical application markets. I have had my 2xLX 5Mb for three years, and I love it dearly, however the darkside is starting to beckon, and that is mainly due to sync software. I have caressed a Psion 5MX in a local shop, but could not see it running (to hard for the assistant to find batteries!). I like a keyboard, maybe this is a mindset, can anyone comment on non keyboard v keyboard PPC's & HPC's. Has anyone on the listserv tried a Psion 5mx, any comments? Kind regards to all | Engineering & Industrial Projects | P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231 | Ph/Fx: +61 8 9795 4650 Mob. 0412 909 684 | e-mail 1: industrial_projects@technologist.com | e-mail 2: danaan@opera.iinet.net.au | web: http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Mine/6505/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 05:04:05 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" On 27.06.00 at 10:54 Eng. & Industrial Projects wrote: >Has anyone on the listserv tried a Psion 5mx, any >comments? I got my Father to buy one. It is a okey unit. I did not like the keyboard. You had to press exactly on top of the ley or else it did not get pressed. Maybe this is better now after some use. I guess I could get used to the 5mx if I had too..but I would have missed a lot of things from the Hp200lx. I will go an borrow it and play a little with it. Feel free to ask me any questions about it. I think he got it at home. I will borrow it tomorrow.. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik, Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:35:26 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Eng. & Industrial Projects" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Eng. & Industrial Projects" Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I will go an borrow it and play a little with it. Feel free to ask me > any questions about it. I think he got it at home. I will borrow it > tomorrow..> Regards> Martin Bergvill , Narvik, Norway Thanks Martin, I am looking for review based on a HP200 user, that is why I asked, other reviews on the web are based on first time users, or non subjective from PC Mag companies. Kind regards......Liam | Engineering & Industrial Projects | P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231 | Ph/Fx: +61 8 9795 4650 Mob. 0412 909 684 | e-mail 1: industrial_projects@technologist.com | e-mail 2: danaan@opera.iinet.net.au | web: http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Mine/6505/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:35:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens Comments: To: ddvteach@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:45 PM Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens > > Today I saw a Palm III and a Palm IIIx side by side at a Staples > (I did not see the IIIxe there). The screen of the III is greenish while > that > of the IIIx is yellowish/amber. I kind of liked the greenish better. > I also saw the IIIxe at a Circuit City (but not the others). The screen > looked > more acceptable to me, but the lighting of the store was better than at > Staples, so I don't know if there is an actual difference between the > screens of the IIIx and the IIIxe. Every Palm has a slightly different screen so you really have to look at several of them. But you're right about the yellowish tint of the 3x compared to the 3. But there is a big difference in contrast. In good light the 3x is a little more readable than the 3. As the light gets dimmer the difference becomes more noticable. I do prefer the yellowish color to the greener color but that's not why I think it's a better screen. That difference doesnt matter much to me. But the contrast matters a lot. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:46:37 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: "Eng. & Industrial Projects" In-Reply-To: <002f01bfdfe3$0f327b00$b1ac0ecb@pavilion> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT To be technical it goes back much further than that. I had cartridges for my commodore 64 that plugged in and extended both software and hardware, same idea and a similar implementation. I just think that for a handheld device this is a really good solution. If this took off I could see all kinds of devices that the handheld could become, just pop them in. In fact one of the early complaints was that there was only one springboard slot so how could you have your beeper module plugged in while using listening to the mp3 module? My personal opinion is that you can never have too many slots. :-) Pete On 27 Jun 2000, at 10:54, Eng. & Industrial Projects wrote: > > The main advantage to the springboard format is that it > >can include software and hardware and the software can > > automatically be incorporated into the system's functionality. > >Think of the springboard slot more like a slot on a desktop > > motherboard. You can plug in a card that has hardware and > >BIOS extentions and the computer can imediately make use of > > the hardware via the BIOS extensions. While I tend to agree > >that a new slot is a > > > I smile when I see this and other discussions on the net > about the visor and how it will load software from its > expansion cards, almost as this is a new technology. > > 8 years ago when I bought my Psion LZ64 (64K RAM 8-) ) > the comms module plugged straight into the top and > loaded the LZ<>PC comms software, and popped another > option up onto the screen. > > Battery life was 3-4 months on a 9V battery, and with a > 32K Datapak, it serviced my needs more than adequately. > In fact I see psion still sell them, I assume to the vertical > application markets. > > I have had my 2xLX 5Mb for three years, and I love it > dearly, however the darkside is starting to beckon, and > that is mainly due to sync software. I have caressed a > Psion 5MX in a local shop, but could not see it running > (to hard for the assistant to find batteries!). I like a > keyboard, maybe this is a mindset, can anyone comment > on non keyboard v keyboard PPC's & HPC's. > > Has anyone on the listserv tried a Psion 5mx, any > comments? > > Kind regards to all > > | Engineering & Industrial Projects > | P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231 > | Ph/Fx: +61 8 9795 4650 Mob. 0412 909 684 > | e-mail 1: industrial_projects@technologist.com > | e-mail 2: danaan@opera.iinet.net.au > | web: http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Mine/6505/ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:41:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Compac Contura Aero MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>Recently I got hold of an old Compaq Contura AERO 4/33C with a Type II PCMCIA 3.5" drive. Have anyone from the list tried connecting the drive with the HP200LX (using an AC adapter, of course)? Do I need any special drivers? According to the manual the computer conform to the PCMCIA 2.0 standard.<<<<< I have a 4/33C also (actually 2 of them) and I haven't tried the floppy in the 200lx but I did try it in the PCMCIA slot of my Thinkpad and it didn't recognize it. I suspect the code for that is in the Aero's BIOS. That really is a sweet little computer, isn't it? 6-7 hours battery life on the extended (but still cheap) battery is really nice. And it's the perfect size. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:52:49 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens Comments: To: ddvteach@JUNO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit D Dv wrote: > > ... > > I also saw the HP Pocket PC. It looks totally cool! If I had not read > the > reviews, I would have though this was the best one in the store (kind > of heavy though). > Have you seen the specs on the (supposedly) soon-to-be-released Compaq PDA? http://WWW.COMPAq.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/ I have heard very good things about its screen, but have yet to see a regular production version so I can't speak firsthand about it. The specs look quite good to me though. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:59:43 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens In-Reply-To: <39582511.F5EA0990@Home.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, David Ness wrote: > > Have you seen the specs on the (supposedly) soon-to-be-released Compaq PDA? > > http://WWW.COMPAq.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/ > > I have heard very good things about its screen, but have yet to see a > regular production version so I can't speak firsthand about it. The > specs look quite good to me though. > yes only problem with this is the unit is a strong arm based PPC which there is NO i mean NO support for Strong-Arm based WinCE appz out there since there is currently only 1 other machine that uses this processor and it's a HPC so then your screwed there hehe i agress thou the specs are really nice!! but the Samsung YOPY is basiclly the same thing with LINUX as the OS which is alot better since the DEV tools are free-ware basiclly so development will happen alot quicker ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:13:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Hardware/Software PCMCIA cards (was Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot!) In-Reply-To: <3957CB49.21965.121D718@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Peter W. Borders wrote: > I don't know of any pcmcia cards that contain both hardware and > software with the one exception of the Thinfax card and it was hardly > a raging sucess. The Transdigital parallel port card has drivers built on, too, if I recall correctly. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:40:00 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Hardware/Software PCMCIA cards (was Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot!) Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Is it like the ThinFAX that has a small flash ram drive that shows up as a drive letter? Of course this is a perfect example of how the springboard can add functionality but can't be generic at the same time. Think about it, what OS and processor do the drivers on the Transdigital card support? Pete On 26 Jun 2000, at 21:13, David Sargeant wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Peter W. Borders wrote: > > > I don't know of any pcmcia cards that contain both hardware and > > software with the one exception of the Thinfax card and it was hardly > > a raging sucess. > > The Transdigital parallel port card has drivers built on, too, if I recall > correctly. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:44:16 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Hardware/Software PCMCIA cards (was Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have one. It is true. Dennis << The Transdigital parallel port card has drivers built on, too, if I recall correctly. >> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:24:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Off-topic: Canon A50 camera Message-Id: <20000627052410.EMVN6885.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.65¨> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 05:24:16 +0000 >> I'll have to look into this D cell adapter. Do you have a part >>number? > >Not anymore but I originally found it by going to an online camera >store and searching the accessories for the Canon EOS line. It is >well described when you find it. Thanks I'll look around the web. My first 2CR5 lithium cell (included with camera) has just bit the dust. Playing with that LCD screen does take its toll, big time. And since I'm already shamefully off-topic, but there seem to be more than a few digicam buffs here on the list, can anyone recommend or steer me to a link for software to manage a digital photo collection? Any comments on the TimeTunnel and ZoomBrowser software that comes with the A50 (that I've yet to load). There's lots out there, but I just wanted to know if there were personal favorites, particularly among people who've tried several (DOS, Win3x or Win95). Minimally, the program should allow annotation and boolean searches of those comments to filter the archive. This and the usual viewing of several image formats and possibly organization into categories. Sounds almost like the LX database . Also should have integrated options to move photos to CD storage (and still track the CD as well as keeping thumbnails on-line). I'll probably install the included software this weekend, but my guess is that it'll fall short as bundled software frequently does ... LX built-ins excluded. I already have QImage for photo printing. I just need something reasonably priced (LX lingo for cheap) for organizing on a Win95 laptop. Thanks. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:24:18 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Consumer reports battery check >I lost faith in Consumer Reports when they tested early home >computers. They reccomended Commodore as the only practical home >computer because of it's speed and because more software was >available for it that for any of the others. Message-Id: <20000627052420.EMWJ6885.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.155.65¨> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 05:24:25 +0000 One has to take CR with a grain of reality. Their recommendations are hardly expert in many cases, and represents (to me at least) the opinion of a group with limited resources and (supposedly) no agenda. >I haven't trusted their opinions since. They're either selling >their opinions or they just don't know what they're talking about. And that might be true, tho the people who blindly follow their suggestions as gospel are probably as culpable as CR on a bad call. To me, the "YMMV" is implicit in every CR recommendation. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:31:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Vic, Victor Roberts wrote: > I knew that Buddy used the XBRAM area, but this is the first > time I heard that ABC/LX also does. Hmmmm... This has been well known since ABC/LX came out in early 1996. > Is it WWW/LX itself, or > one of the other programs in the WWW/LX "suite"? You must be confusing ABC/LX and WWW/LX. No XBRAM used in WWW/LX anywhere. > If this is > true, how does the ABC/LX (and/or the associated programs) work > on non-LX machines where there is no XBRAM, or the area may be > assigned to other functions? Oops! Must be a confusion. ABC/LX does not run on other machines. WWW/LX does. > Is this perhaps the reason why > QEMM says that illegal memory areas are being accessed when I > try to use PE with POST/LX on my OB530 when using QEMM as the > memory manager? I thought you were not inclined to deal with that problem anymore :-) ... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:31:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: External speaker jack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ed Padin wrote: > Here'what I was thinking: > > - Pick up email from voice provider using pop client from some server > - Convert from wav to {some compressed format good for palmtop} > - mail to another email account. Agree, not that terribly complex. Still very time consuming, and it also means I cannot spend time In switzerland and pick up my messages on the palmtop without keeping someone back home monitoring all these conversions. Nice idea, though! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:31:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden Loo wrote: > No comment on the reported conflicts with PE and Post/LX and QEMM .... but it > does sound like a plausible explanation that D&A is better suited to affirm. I can reaffirm: NO Post/LX, WWW/LX or anything else in the WWW/LX Suite uses XBRAM. PE does not use XBRAM. ABC/LX does. I doubt the QEMM issue has anything to do with XBRAM. > I know Avi has said he's used those programs on his 800CT, but memory management > under QEMM may be quite a different story. Probably the simplest test would be > to disable QEMM (or boot without it) and see if the DA software runs. Or just > use the VI editor and NetTamer . Yes, I used QEMM and early WWW/LX underWindows 3.1 on a desktop. I use the WWW/LX Suite on the OB800CT with no ill effects, but I do not use QEMM on the OB800. I do not know why QEMM reports illegal usage of memory, I could not find out more - testing it through Vic would have been arduous and very time consuming (and nerve wracking!) mostly to Vic, and he declined (I cannot blame him!) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:31:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Vic, Victor Roberts wrote: > Fred, and all, especially D&A, > > I owe all you an appology for not keeping my mind on the task > at hand. I read "ABC/LX" but thought "WWW/LX". My mistake. Too > many "/LX" programs I guess I just finished reading and replying to the other messages... Nothing to apologise for. It is an innocent mistake, no problem at all... I cannot speak for all, and especially not for Fred - but for me D&A, no apology needed, really. I just wish that I could somehow get a hold of my old QEMM stuff and run it on the OB800 and see if maybe we can track down this strange problem. But as for Fred, he is a tough one - really ornery now since he broke his foot (maybe someone else broke it? ...) He may want your pound of flesh! ... Or maybe not, he may have enough. (Oh, Master Fred, forgive me this excursion in to humorous commentary! ) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:31:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peniel Romanelli wrote: > Don't know about WWW/LX and XBRAM. Could be just the time-limited demo > version of ABC/LX that uses it, but I think I've seen a line like > "loading data from XBRAM" during bootup when ABCTSR loads. AFAIK only > D&A would know if PE or Post/LX also use XBRAM. I didn't think so... Neither PE not Post/LX or any of the programs in the WWW/LX suite use XBRAM. ABC/LX does. > My idea is to locate the area of XBRAM related to power management, and > find what data is valid, so it could be restored in software, without > pulling all the batteries... That would be a delightful addition to this community. I just got hit with that recently, and after about a day it went away. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:56:33 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter W. Borders wrote: > ...springboard plug in an MP3 player card that had all the hardware > for MP3 decoding and playback and a new application would appear > on the device to play MP3 files. I agree, that would be nice to have, but it comes at the cost of reinventing all kind of PCMCIA cards, that are already available and have to be redesigned for the springboard as for example: -flash memory -hard drives -modem -network -SCSI -ISDN -bluetooth -VGA -parallel -seriell -scanner -barcode -GSM -pager -video -audio -TV -floppy drives -cd-rom -GPS -... the PCMCIA handbook of 1995 lists more than 1000 PCMCIA products available at that time. I still think, it's arrogant to ignore these efforts by designing a new interface for possible MP3 players in Springboard format one day. > I would have liked to see a CF slot AS WELL as the springboard. > One for generic hardware (CF) and one as an expansion > bay for the specific device (springboard). This would have been the solution and should be the endpoint of this more and more off topic discussion. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:36:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: "Peter W. Borders" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit About how many shots do you get from one 2CR5 battery? Vic On 23 Jun 2000, "Peter W. Borders" wrote: > I have an A50 and rellay like it. Also, I bought it about 6-8 months ago for over $400 and that was the best price at the time, > you got a great deal. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:44:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: ANN: PDU reached version 1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm glad to announce an improved version of PDU within a few days. The reason is, that I always get feedback *AFTER* I released a new version. Why don't I get it just before I'm planning to release a new version? Questions over questions;-) The new version is now capable of "Flash SMS". These SMS are immediately displayed on the receivers phone. But use this feature with care, because flash SMS are usually not stored on the receivers SIM, and a second flash SMS overwrites a previous (possibly not yet red) SMS on the receivers phone. The ROBOT script PDU.SCR has been improved by Mark Wallace-Jones to automatically send out an email if you put an email address in the "To:" field instead of a phone number. Then the SMS is reformatted on the fly to an email and send out to the italien eXcell gateway. Many thanks to Mark for this useful enhancement! You may ask, when do I need to send a SMS as email? Let me give you some examples: -if your mobile has no modem built in, you cannot access your ISP for email on the road, but you can send SMS -you may not have access to your ISP through GSM -you may have trouble connection to your ISP because of EMI interference of the phones IrDA -in foreign countries, you may not have (or only expensive) access to your national ISP, but you can send cheap SMS -the receiver of the SMS may not own a mobile Download the new version from http://peichl.hplx.net/pdu.zip ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:45:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just to set the record straight, I do not use QEMM on my 800CT. Only on my OB530. These are two separate problems. Vic On 26 Jun 2000 22:32:52 -0700, A Meshar wrote: >> Ýsnip¨ I do not use QEMM on the OB800. I do not know why > QEMM reports illegal usage of memory, I could not find out > more - testing it through Vic would have been arduous and very > time consuming (and nerve wracking!) mostly to Vic, and he > declined (I cannot blame him!) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:31:40 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: OT: New DOS Trick Comments: To: List OB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just discovered a new DOS "feature". Works with Win95 DOS. Does not work on the HP200LX w/MSDOS 5.0. It is "cd..." listed below. cd... (moves up two directories) cd.. (moves to parent) cd. (stays in current) cd\ (moves to root) -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:36:38 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Suquet, Stephan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Suquet, Stephan" Subject: Printing. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Does anyone know if there=B4s a program allowing to print from the LX = through a desktop machine ? If yes, where can it be downloaded. Thanks a lot and regards. St=E9phane SUQUET LIZARRAGA PLANIFICACION ECONOMICO-FINANCIERA AGUAS PROVINCIALES DE SANTA FE S.A. Tel: 0341 420 6713 / Fax: 0341 420 6746 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:39:51 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@juno.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: To whom it may koncern MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On national news today: At PC Expo are two new palmtops twice the size of the LX about the size of the PC110 frum IBM and Panasonic. They probably run Wxx they look good and and said to kost bout $3000+ bucks. Anyone seen these in the reel? yor pal al..................... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:47:17 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: OT: New DOS Trick In-Reply-To: <3958ACBC.B29565BF@union-tel.com> from "Robert K. Meyer" at Jun 27, 2000 07:31:40 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Just discovered a new DOS "feature". Works with Win95 DOS. Does not > work on the HP200LX w/MSDOS 5.0. It is "cd..." listed below. Only the "cd..." is what I would call a trick. All the other cd commands are standard syntax. Perhaps you are saying they work without the space that normally goes after the "cd" part of the command? Anyway, "cd ..", "cd ." and "cd \" all work fine on the palmtop, or any DOS machine (or UNIX machine, if you change the "\" to "/"). -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:02:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , 71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim <71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: Palm Gadgets -to- HPLX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I seem to have been a bit long winded and confusing in my first "Palm Gadgets -to- HPLX?" post (what's new ). For the most part, I'm only seeking to use the self-powered "Happy Hacking Cradle" (designed to link palms w/ PS/2 Keyboards. I'm in digest mode now, so I'm about 24 hrs behind the list, but I think things are looking up. The company replied and said, "Yes, it's basically serial" and someone on the list said PS/2 "spoke" serial pretty well. I haven't done any reading/research on the Palm or PS/2, but may crack a few books, over the weekend. Since I haven't read up on REAL serial for awhile either, I hesitate to ask, but might the existing drivers for the Newton KB (or a slightly modified/updated version of this driver) work with any device that connected the LX to a PS/2? . Still tinkering; thanks for all the input I've received so far, --tim PS. I know some think another external KB solution won't give *them* much advantage, but *I'm* still looking! Tim Raymond --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: ttraymond@hotmail.com or 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:19:54 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jason Goh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jason Goh Subject: Merging of file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i try to merge appt file using my lx200 (2mb ram), but after a while, my palmtop got hanged, shown overflow of data. is there any way i can merge the file using my notebook , & then transfer to my palmtop? or any better suggestions. thanks. jason goh ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim <71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:02 PM Subject: Re: Palm Gadgets -to- HPLX? > Hi All, > > I seem to have been a bit long winded and confusing in my first > "Palm Gadgets -to- HPLX?" post (what's new ). > > For the most part, I'm only seeking to use the self-powered > "Happy Hacking Cradle" (designed to link palms w/ PS/2 > Keyboards. > > I'm in digest mode now, so I'm about 24 hrs behind the list, but > I think things are looking up. The company replied and said, > "Yes, it's basically serial" and someone on the list said PS/2 > "spoke" serial pretty well. I haven't done any reading/research > on the Palm or PS/2, but may crack a few books, over the > weekend. Since I haven't read up on REAL serial for awhile > either, I hesitate to ask, but might the existing drivers for > the Newton KB (or a slightly modified/updated version of this > driver) work with any device that > connected the LX to a PS/2? *ITS* batteries powering the KB, not the LX's serial port>. > > Still tinkering; thanks for all the input I've received so far, > > --tim > > PS. I know some think another external KB solution won't give > *them* much advantage, but *I'm* still looking! > > Tim Raymond > --------------------------------- > There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. > email: ttraymond@hotmail.com or > 71250.1550@compuserve.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:36:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:35:26 +0800, "Eng. & Industrial Projects" wrote: > > I will go an borrow it and play a little with it. Feel free to ask me > > any questions about it. I think he got it at home. I will borrow it > > tomorrow..> Regards> Martin Bergvill , Narvik, Norway > > Thanks Martin, > > I am looking for review based on a HP200 user, > that is why I asked, other reviews on the web are > based on first time users, or non subjective from > PC Mag companies. I have posted about the Psion 5Mx on this list before. Search the archive's. The subject was "Psion 5mx tested" I think. However I will play some more with it and make a new evaluation of it from a Hplx'er point of view. Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:48:01 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jason Goh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jason Goh Subject: Re: Merging of file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Goh To: Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:19 PM Subject: Merging of file > i try to merge appt file using my lx200 (2mb ram), but after a while, my > palmtop got hanged, shown overflow of data. is there any way i can merge > the file using my notebook , & then transfer to my palmtop? > > or any better suggestions. > > thanks. > > jason goh ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:42:44 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorge Peri Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorge Peri Subject: Re: Printing. Comments: To: "Suquet, Stephan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hola! Yo uso el Interlink de DOS, que ademas es mucho mas practico para copiar archivos de la palmtop a la PC y viceversa. A tus ordenes para aclarar dudas. Saludos. Jorge ----- Original Message ----- From: Suquet, Stephan To: Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:36 AM Subject: Printing. Hi all, Does anyone know if there4s a program allowing to print from the LX through a desktop machine ? If yes, where can it be downloaded. Thanks a lot and regards. Stiphane SUQUET LIZARRAGA PLANIFICACION ECONOMICO-FINANCIERA AGUAS PROVINCIALES DE SANTA FE S.A. Tel: 0341 420 6713 / Fax: 0341 420 6746 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:39:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: CF vs Springboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> So because you already own a pcmcia modem you will never buy any other similar format? What about a compact flash modem for the latest handheld? What about the new faster whatever that just came out. You talk about the 2-3 year lifespan of the system but you neglect to mention the similar lfespan of the device, be it pcmcia, CF or whatever.<<<<<< Palm and Sony have already announced that they'll both be producing PalmOS devices with Sony memory sticks before the end of the year. Palm expects to have at least 3 models with memory sticks by then and Sony hopes to have one or two models if I remember right. Given that and the popularity of Palms and the trust people have in the Sony brand, I won't be surprised if the memory stick becomes a major contender. In any case, their adoption by Palm will probably eventually lead most companies producing Palm-like PalmOS devices to use them too. If so a lot of people will end up with a lot of different sets of plug-in modules for various devices. But a lot of people who can afford to wait till the dust settles, probably will. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:48:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: ATA vs linear flash MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>very popular examples on this list are ATA flash cards vs. linear flash cards. Linear flash cards need drivers to run, whereas ATA flash cards have the driver implemented on board. SanDisk explains this in detail in their FAQ.<<<<< I think this is a little different than the drivers that install from the SpringBoard cards. I think that when the card is inserted the driver is loaded into the Visor and run on the visor. ATA cards have firmware that causes the card to present itself to the host as an ATA device. No driver is transferred to the host and then executed. That driver is invisible to the host. All it sees is a valid ATA device. Linear cards were a cost cutting measure developed (I think) by Intel. Instead of having the card present itself as an ATA device to the host, the host runs a driver that makes the card appear to itself as an ATA card. This driver must already be on the host. It can't be installed from the card. The problem with this is that some of the host's memory is wasted. And some cpu time, although I have no idea how much. In the ATA card there is a cpu or something that performs the functions that the linear card's host must perform. Also if your device doesn't have a driver that works with that card, you can't use it. I'm not sure if the drivers and cards are standardized or not. But I'm sure each OS needs it's own as would each camera. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:05:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Keyboard vs stylus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>I like a keyboard, maybe this is a mindset, can anyone comment on non keyboard v keyboard PPC's & HPC's.<<<<< I use the 200lx and a Palm 3x (and 3c). I think for those times when you just have to write a quick phone number like you might on a spare piece of paper, the Palm is considerably faster. I use a drawing program for this and I write with my normal handwriting on the page itself. Then later if I want to keep that information or expand on it, I'll make a phone book entry. To actually make a phone book entry, counting from the time the device leaves your pocket to the time it returns to your pocket, the Palm is slightly faster, but YMMV. There's not a lot of difference. The actual data entry is a little slower on the Palm but getting it open and into position and in the light is faster with the Palm. But if you're trying to help Jefferson write the Declaration of Independance, or any lengthy piece of text, the 200lx is MUCH faster. There's no contest at all. The same is true for a paragraph or two. I've never learned to touch type on my 200lx although I do on a normal keyboard. But even entering data with 2 thumbs can be pretty fast. I've gotten pretty good at Grafitti (not the best but ok) but it's still much slower. But if you want to do a quick sketch of a map to the restaurant where your lunch meeting will be, Palm wins. It works beautifully. 200lx owner asks the Palm owner for a ride. :) Basically, if you don't have more than a word or two or three to enter, or if you need a diagram, Palm easily wins. Around 4 or 5 words, 200lx catches up. Over 5 words and the 200lx runs out in front pretty fast. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:03:17 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: Victor Roberts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a couple of Canon's, so therein lies my brand-name bias, tho I'll admit that the expensive battery issue irks me also. In regards to comparisons with the Kodak DC215, I'll admit to my ignorance about it, but a website at -> http://www.dpreview.com/ has a nice option to do "side-by-side" feature comparisons, and both the A50 and the DC215 are choices. When I select them, the most obvious feature difference to me is the lack of autofocus on the Kodak (uses a fixed focus lens), which might make for some lack of sharpness at some ranges. Still, I doubt there's a $300 camera that doesn't provide quality adequate for at least "simple pictures", so the DC215 may be fine for your needs (probably mine too). If I were guided by objections to the battery cost, I might've gone with my 2nd choice, which was the Nikon Coolpix 800 that Jeff Johns mentioned recently. Uses 4 AA's (like the DC215), but has some other nice features (matrix metering, manual/autofocus), not to mention good image quality. But the best price I could get on the Nikon was $410 on the web (according to CNET), so I took a chance on the $199 A50 instead and hoped for adequate returns on the lithium battery (more on that later). My intention with the A50 is to buy into the digital technology at the low end, and wait for the industry to catch up (ie, a reasonably priced camera that can go automatic as well as provide full manual aperture/shutter speed control). Didn't want to wait any longer tho, cuz I was missing out on a lot of photo opportunities and I simply didn't have room for another shoebox of 35mm prints . The A50 will probably get retired when/if the "full featured camera" appears at $300. The Olympus C2020/C3030 is close, but too expensive at $600-$1000. - Longden Victor Roberts on 06/26/2000 06:07:17 PM To: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle, HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU cc: Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Longden, Our local OfficeMax has three A50's left, but I don't like the idea of the special and expensive battery. They also have a Kodak DC215 (for $299) which uses 4 AA cells and also has CF. I have used older model Kodak digital cameras before and found them to be perfectly acceptable for simple pictures. Can you compare the two for me? BTW - I have a couple of Pentax 35mm cameras with a number of lenses and other accessories for the "good stuff". What I want now is a rather decent, low cost digital camera for those shots which I just "must" e-mail to people Vic On 22 Jun 2000 20:26:16 -0700, Longden Loo wrote: > All issues regarding CF-II and 1 gig Microdrives, and SmartMedia cards are > history for me, now that I've gotten a Canon A50 camera. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:07:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << Given that and the popularity of Palms and the trust people have in the Sony brand, I won't be surprised if the memory stick becomes a major contender. >> That would be the BetaMax version of the Palm . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:15:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just ran down my 2CR5 battery on Sunday, after about 5 days of use and maybe 75-100 shots. Hard to say cuz I deleted probably as many shots as I kept. I'm not surprised tho. I did the same (short battery life) on my Canon Rebel 35mm SLR initially, because a lot of time was spent playing with the controls, flash and autofocus, which you wouldn't do once you're acclimated to the camera. The A50 (and maybe other cameras too) lets you shut down the LCD and just use the optical viewfinder ... or use the viewfinder and just pop the image only after the shot is taken (to confirm what you caught). Constant LCD use for previewing and playback seems to be the power killer, and once you're comfortable with a camera you shouldn't have to do this as often. - Longden Victor Roberts on 06/27/2000 04:36:45 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max About how many shots do you get from one 2CR5 battery? Vic On 23 Jun 2000, "Peter W. Borders" wrote: > I have an A50 and rellay like it. Also, I bought it about 6-8 months ago for over $400 and that was the best price at the time, > you got a great deal. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 09:47:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Keyboard vs stylus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii One of the reasons I carry my business cards. The back makes a nice writing surface for a few words or even a small map. Added bonus is the free advertising on the other side ... and usually the maps I draw are given to the other party .. which would be murder on my supply of Palm Pilots . - Longden Barry on 06/27/2000 09:05:19 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Barry To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Keyboard vs stylus But if you want to do a quick sketch of a map to the restaurant where your lunch meeting will be, Palm wins. It works beautifully. 200lx owner asks the Palm owner for a ride. :) Basically, if you don't have more than a word or two or three to enter, or if you need a diagram, Palm easily wins. Around 4 or 5 words, 200lx catches up. Over 5 words and the 200lx runs out in front pretty fast. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:50:54 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: OT: New DOS Trick Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Robert K. Meyer" wrote: > > Just discovered a new DOS "feature". Works with Win95 DOS. Does not work > on the HP200LX w/MSDOS 5.0. It is "cd..." listed below. > > cd... (moves up two directories) > cd.. (moves to parent) > cd. (stays in current) > cd\ (moves to root) > CD ... has worked in lots of DOS and DOS clones. It is sufficiently non-general, however, that it is a _very_ nasty habit to develop when compared with CD ..\.. which, at the cost of 2 extra characters, always works (well, where _always_ is at least 2 levels down, anyway). CD ... also has the nattering effect in NT of doing nothing (that I can detect anyway), so you don't even get an error indicating that it is _not_ doing what you thought. All in all, I regard it as a non-feature and something to stay away from. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:54:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan Peichl wrote: > > Peter W. Borders wrote: > > > The main advantage to the springboard format is that it can include software and hardware and the software can > > automatically be incorporated into the system's functionality. Think of the springboard slot more like a slot on a desktop > > motherboard. You can plug in a card that has hardware and BIOS extentions and the computer can imediately make use of > > the hardware via the BIOS extensions. > > the same applies to PCMCIA cards. The difference is, that > PCMCIA is a well defined standard accepted by all companies > which ship their products with this kind of slot. > No `the same' does not apply to PCMCIA cards. PCMCIA cards do not typically `integrate' into the system BIOS---that's why one often needs drivers to get PCMCIA cards to work in particular pieces of hardware. This is, I think, the point Borders was trying to make in his earlier response. > For what reason do I have to buy a Springboard modem or memory > card, if I already own the corresponding PCMCIA card? > Because they don't have a PCMCIA slot, I guess. The point of the discussion, it seems to me, is that just because it `looks like a CF slot' doesn't mean that it _is_ a CF slot. In the middle 1970s I worked on a computer where we found that 8-track Cassette housings were particularly convenient for holding ROMs that we were producing. They were cheap and it was easy to plug them in and remove them from the computer. From the outside you'd swear you were holding an 8-track cassette. Needless to say you _couldn't_ play these ROMs in any cassette player, however, even though from the outside they looked like perfectly normal `cassettes'. > > For only one reason: to let the producers of the Springboard > cards earn some money out of my pocket. > No, there are many other possible reasons. You may not agree with them, but they are perfectly valid. Of the many reasons, I'd suggest that user ease would be high on the list. I have yet to see a `standard' interface that didn't require tons of correspondence about finding and installing proper drivers, while well-designed proprietary interfaces (take the Psion, for example) require no discussion whatsoever. For evidence, look at the tons of correspondence here on HPLX about whether particular CFs or PCMCIA cards will or will not work with the 200, and what drivers will be necessary to get them to work. Proof, it seems to me that standards must be a wonderful thing, that's why there are so many of them. > > I don't envy them. If they find enough customers to live from, > fine! But they won't get me as a customer. > Perfectly understandable. And undoubtedly the right decision for you. > > Or said in the words of a german saying: > There is nothing stupid enough to not find following. > (Es ist nichts so dumm, als da_ es keine Gefolgschaft fdnde) > > This saying was usually applied to politics, but politics > loose importance and technologie gains importance, but the > saying remains true, like any good philosophies. > While I _never_ question the wisdom of German sayings, I don't think it applies here. The Springboard seems to be following along in a line, somewhat like the moderately successful Psion, of controlling the interaction between their machine and its peripherals. You might or might not agree with this design as a business decision, but it is wrong, IMO, to call it `stupid'. > ÝBorders...¨ > > PS. Now if you want to talk about stupid new designs that are > > unnecessary look at Sony's memory stick. A compact flash > > card in a new shape, just what we needed. > ÝPeichl...¨ > I totally disagree, because the memory stick has an advantage, > which no technical product since the invention of the computer > ever had: It fits into the chewing gum pocket of my jeans ;-) > I completely _agree_ with you here. The `memory stick Walkman' is a rather nice device, and the format of most PCMCIA like devices dictates compromises in end-user design that are not always desirable. `A new shape' is _not_ per se a bad idea if it allows new designs in end user equipment. To suggest otherwise is to miss the point. > > I'll design memory stick "jewel cases" from denim material > and market them under denim.jewel.com. I'll go public on NASDAQ > the next month and become a millionaire within the first day. > This is the kind of smart inventions, we need more and more to > keep the stock market merry-go-round running at high speed! > Then I don't have to write palmtop freeware any longer. > I'll buy some of your Jewel cases. By the time you produce them, memory prices may come down enough that we won't care about a multiplicity of formats, so you may have a very popular product. > > I wonder anyway why it takes so long to become a millionaire > by writing palmtop freeware? > Move to Italy. It is _much_ easier to earn 1,000,000 lire than 1,000,000 DM. > > Stefan > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:51:28 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rafael Humberto Padilla Velazquez Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rafael Humberto Padilla Velazquez Subject: Re: Printing. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hola yo uso el OMNIPRN programa es fantastico! >From: Jorge Peri >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorge >Peri >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: Printing. >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:42:44 -0300 > >Hola! Yo uso el Interlink de DOS, que ademas es mucho mas practico para >copiar archivos de la palmtop >a la PC y viceversa. A tus ordenes para aclarar dudas. Saludos. Jorge > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Suquet, Stephan >To: >Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:36 AM >Subject: Printing. > > >Hi all, > >Does anyone know if there4s a program allowing to print from the LX through >a desktop machine ? > >If yes, where can it be downloaded. > > >Thanks a lot and regards. > > >Stiphane SUQUET LIZARRAGA >PLANIFICACION ECONOMICO-FINANCIERA >AGUAS PROVINCIALES DE SANTA FE S.A. >Tel: 0341 420 6713 / Fax: 0341 420 6746 > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:14:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The link I sent mentioned Canon part BP-5B, but there's also a BP-5 ... both are $60 and I'm not sure which is more adaptible to the digital cameras. This is the link for BP-5 -> http://shop.store.yahoo.com/camerasphere/cnbp5.html - Longden ---------------------- Forwarded by Longden Loo/AGH/Candle on 06/27/2000 10:11 AM --------------------------- From: Longden Loo on 06/27/2000 10:09 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max (Document link: Longden Loo) Found it at -> http://www.camera-sphere.com/camerasphere/cnbp5b.html $60 belt-carried unit that holds 4 D cells for 7.5 times the life of a 2CR5. Definitely a good item to keep in the photo bag (or in the car) for the "heavy artillery". Hardly chic, but very interesting. Now if only the LX used a 2CR5 . - Longden "Peter W. Borders" on 06/26/2000 02:14:36 PM Please respond to tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Not anymore but I originally found it by going to an online camera store and searching the accessories for the Canon EOS line. It is well described when you find it. > > I'll have to look into this D cell adapter. Do you have a part number? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:09:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Found it at -> http://www.camera-sphere.com/camerasphere/cnbp5b.html $60 belt-carried unit that holds 4 D cells for 7.5 times the life of a 2CR5. Definitely a good item to keep in the photo bag (or in the car) for the "heavy artillery". Hardly chic, but very interesting. Now if only the LX used a 2CR5 . - Longden "Peter W. Borders" on 06/26/2000 02:14:36 PM Please respond to tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Not anymore but I originally found it by going to an online camera store and searching the accessories for the Canon EOS line. It is well described when you find it. > > I'll have to look into this D cell adapter. Do you have a part number? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:46:18 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > > << > Given that and the popularity of Palms and the trust people have in > the Sony brand, I won't be surprised if the memory stick becomes a > major contender. > >> > > That would be the BetaMax version of the Palm . > > - Longden > Or, perhaps, the Walkman version. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:49:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: OT: New DOS Trick Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert K. Meyer" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 9:31 AM Subject: OT: New DOS Trick > Just discovered a new DOS "feature". Works with Win95 DOS. Does not work > on the HP200LX w/MSDOS 5.0. It is "cd..." listed below. > > cd... (moves up two directories) > cd.. (moves to parent) > cd. (stays in current) > cd\ (moves to root) > -- > +--------------------+-----------------+ > |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| > |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| > |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| > +--------------------+-----------------+ > | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | > +--------------------------------------+ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > It is not really new. I've been using it for many years. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:29:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens Comments: To: barry@fbtc.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:35:22 -0500 "Barry" writes: > From: > Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens > > Today I saw a Palm III and a Palm IIIx side by side at a Staples > > (I did not see the IIIxe there). The screen of the III is greenish > while that of the IIIx is yellowish/amber. I kind of liked the greenish > better. A very important point I forgot to make: None of the Palm III series screens were nearly as good as the hplx screen, when viewed without a backlight. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:10:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard Comments: To: barry@fbtc.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:39:16 -0500 Barry writes: > Palm and Sony have already announced that they'll both be producing > PalmOS devices with Sony memory sticks before the end of the year. > Palm expects to have at least 3 models with memory sticks by then > and Sony hopes to have one or two models if I remember right. This gives cause for some pause. But then, memory sticks will be horribly expensive, Palm or no Palm, and that will drive CF prices down further, which will be a good thing for Hplx users (and TrgPro users as well). As Stephan, said, this is another attemp at getting more money out of our pockets, so I for one will not lose sleep over Palm supporting the memory sticks. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:21:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens Comments: To: DNess@HOME.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:52:49 -0400 David Ness writes: > Have you seen the specs on the (supposedly) soon-to-be-released > Compaq PDA? > > http://WWW.COMPAq.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/ Some, battery life will still be a problem, and it is stil Wince (the new is basically like the old, in a prettier package). > I have heard very good things about its screen, but have yet to see a > regular production version so I can't speak firsthand about it. The > specs look quite good to me though. I have being watching the Palm since it first came out, hoping it would get better. I am glad I waited. The level of development and third party support is very impressive. I have also been watching Wince. Pardon me if I seem gross, but it doesn't matter if you wash a pig (rename it), or if you dress it in the lattest styles of clothes (Hp & Compact), it is still a pig (Wince. Yes, I read about the new tinkering with the OS, and I am still not convinced, and neither are third party companies, nor most consumers). My original poing was intended to suggest that Hp has gone a long way to make Wince very attractive. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:19:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Keyboard vs stylus Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > > I use the 200lx and a Palm 3x (and 3c). I think for those times > when you just have to write a quick phone number like you might on a > spare piece of paper, the Palm is considerably faster. I use a > ... > > But if you want to do a quick sketch of a map to the restaurant > where your lunch meeting will be, Palm wins. It works beautifully. > 200lx owner asks the Palm owner for a ride. :) > > Basically, if you don't have more than a word or two or three to > enter, or if you need a diagram, Palm easily wins. Around 4 or 5 > words, 200lx catches up. Over 5 words and the 200lx runs out in > front pretty fast. > > Barry > That strikes me as a fair and sensible assessment. For me the crossover is a little earlier, perhaps at 2 words, but your point about a `sketch' is surely valid. I did find that I _always_ preferred the 200 for just about any input capture task, unless a `picture' was involved, but that is probably just personal taste. The notion that anyone could input graffiti at anything like the speed I could type was absurd in my experience, even if the graffiti writers had been doing it for years. I might add that most of the graffiti writers I experimented with _thought_ that they did graffiti just as fast as I could type until we actually tried it. Then, for sentence long tests, we found that I could type `When in the course of human events' two to three times in the time that they could record `Wrcn im the caurse of hunan evemts'. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:38:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Keyboard vs stylus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Windows CE devices tend to have voice recorders also. That's the one thing I found very useful with my CE experince. I tried evferything I could to get my Nino+DosCE to fulfill all my needs. It was cheap (<$100), had backlight, was small and had a voice recorder. I just couldn't deal with the pen input after a while. I still liked the Nino and would have been happy had I not already known the 200lx. I now use a little panasonic solid state voice recorder+200lx for my information needs. I also avoid dark places.... >-----Original Message----- >From: David Ness Ýmailto:DNess@HOME.COM¨ >Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 2:20 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Keyboard vs stylus > > >Barry wrote: >> >> I use the 200lx and a Palm 3x (and 3c). I think for those times >> when you just have to write a quick phone number like you might on a >> spare piece of paper, the Palm is considerably faster. I use a >> >... >> >> But if you want to do a quick sketch of a map to the restaurant >> where your lunch meeting will be, Palm wins. It works beautifully. >> 200lx owner asks the Palm owner for a ride. :) >> >> Basically, if you don't have more than a word or two or three to >> enter, or if you need a diagram, Palm easily wins. Around 4 or 5 >> words, 200lx catches up. Over 5 words and the 200lx runs out in >> front pretty fast. >> >> Barry >> > >That strikes me as a fair and sensible assessment. For me the crossover >is a little earlier, perhaps at 2 words, but your point about >a `sketch' >is surely valid. > >I did find that I _always_ preferred the 200 for just about any input >capture task, unless a `picture' was involved, but that is >probably just >personal taste. The notion that anyone could input graffiti at anything >like the speed I could type was absurd in my experience, even if the >graffiti writers had been doing it for years. > >I might add that most of the graffiti writers I experimented >with _thought_ >that they did graffiti just as fast as I could type until we >actually tried >it. Then, for sentence long tests, we found that I could type >`When in the >course of human events' two to three times in the time that they could >record `Wrcn im the caurse of hunan evemts'. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:40:08 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:06:06 -0400 (EDT) 13h34m35s ago ... On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, A Meshar wrote: > Peniel Romanelli wrote: > > My idea is to locate the area of XBRAM related to power management, = and > > find what data is valid, so it could be restored in software, without > > pulling all the batteries... > > That would be a delightful addition to this community. I just > got hit with that recently, and after about a day it went > away. Thanks for the encouragement, Avi. If it can be done, it should be a handy thing to have. Not sure if my palmtop has the problem, or if my NIMH all need reconditioning. Getting short battery life, but the batteries won't charge past 2.78V -- pretty low -- and probably an indicator of need for reconditioning. Will try the new Kodak 1600s and see how they do. Later Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:29:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Free ISP In-Reply-To: <200006272140.RAA14186@moon.web2000.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII anyone still have that link about using free isp's with your palm pilot? looking to use my LX but lost the site-link ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:31:34 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Wagstaff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Wagstaff Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 27 Jun 2000 11:21:06 -0700, D Dv wrote: > > Have you seen the specs on the (supposedly) soon-to-be-released > > Compaq PDA? > > > > http://WWW.COMPAq.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/ > > Some, battery life will still be a problem, and it is stil Wince (the new > is > basically like the old, in a prettier package). I agree that battery life is a major problem - although Compaq claim 12 hours continuous use, this is with the sidelight off. Many users are reporting only 3-4 hrs, although this may improve after the battery has gone through a few charge cycles. I disagree, however, that CE 3 is just a prettier version of CE 2 - if anything, it's uglier! The 3D look has been replaced but a Win 3.x 2D style, all part of an attempt to be as "simple" as Palm. Apparently, CE 3 is significantly faster than CE 2, even when running on the older hardware (e.g. the Aero 1550), and there have been major changes under the hood. > > I have heard very good things about its screen, but have yet to see a > > regular production version so I can't speak firsthand about it. The > > specs look quite good to me though. > > I have being watching the Palm since it first came out, hoping it > would get better. I am glad I waited. The level of development > and third party support is very impressive. I have also > been watching Wince. Pardon me if I seem gross, but it doesn't > matter if you wash a pig (rename it), or if you dress it in the lattest > styles of clothes (Hp & Compact), it is still a pig (Wince. Yes, I read > about the new tinkering with the OS, and I am still not convinced, and > neither are third party companies, nor most consumers). Perhaps one of the best things about the iPAQ is that it comes with flash ROM - this means that if you want to replace CE with Linux, you can do it... see http://www.ipaqlinux.com and http://www.handhelds.org for more details. It should also be noted that the iPAQ is smaller and lighter than the YOPY, and the iPAQ is actually out (albeit in limited numbers) now! I'm also not convinced that CE 3 is a pig - from what I've seen and heard on the newsgroups and web forums, people seem to be reasonably happy with it. Of course, it's hard to compare the iPAQ and the other *new* Pocket PC devices with the LX because not many have swapped and then reported back. As for development, CE 3 will probably never do well as Palm, but at least MS has finally seen sense and released the SDK for "free" (only the cost of shipping). Already, there seems to be plenty of new software cropping up, which is a good sign. Am I simply attempting to justify my decision to buy an iPAQ (not arrived yet)? Maybe! :-) Will I be giving up my 200LX? Extremely unlikely! > My original poing was intended to suggest that Hp has gone a long > way to make Wince very attractive. If anything, it's been the complete opposite. With the 16 bit/12 bit screen fiasco along with other issues, HP has gone out of its way to make CE unattractive. In order of Pocket PC popularity, I would say that HP is currently bottom. Perhaps they should now call it a day and go back to the true LX series? :-) -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:55:57 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! In-Reply-To: <136t2S-0hv9KSC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Not really, all someone has to do is make a springboard pcmcia adaptor, which is possible because the springboard slot is open in the back. Also, just because all these cards exist doesn't mean that they are usable in any given machine, they would all need driver support which, as 200lx users, we all know is not always available. Pete On 27 Jun 2000, at 12:56, Stefan.Peichl@t-online.de wrote: > Peter W. Borders wrote: > > > ...springboard plug in an MP3 player card that had all the hardware > > for MP3 decoding and playback and a new application would appear > > on the device to play MP3 files. > > I agree, that would be nice to have, but it comes at the cost > of reinventing all kind of PCMCIA cards, that are already > available and have to be redesigned for the springboard > as for example: > > -flash memory > -hard drives > -modem > -network > -SCSI > -ISDN > -bluetooth > -VGA > -parallel > -seriell > -scanner > -barcode > -GSM > -pager > -video > -audio > -TV > -floppy drives > -cd-rom > -GPS > -... > > the PCMCIA handbook of 1995 lists more than 1000 PCMCIA products > available at that time. I still think, it's arrogant to ignore > these efforts by designing a new interface for possible MP3 > players in Springboard format one day. > > > I would have liked to see a CF slot AS WELL as the springboard. > > One for generic hardware (CF) and one as an expansion > > bay for the specific device (springboard). > > This would have been the solution and should be the endpoint > of this more and more off topic discussion. > > Stefan > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:59:08 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200006271136.HAA24325@spdmraab.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have never actualy counted it but I know it is not very many. I was suprised how soon the low battery indicator started showing up and how soon after that the camera would just turn itself off. I would suspect, using the flash and the LCD screen, somewhere around 30-40 but that is just my gut feeling without actually counting. Considering that a 64M CF card amounts to 300 or so pictures that is rather expensive at $12 a battery (locally). I might as well go out and buy FILM. :-) Pete On 27 Jun 2000, at 7:36, Victor Roberts wrote: > About how many shots do you get from one 2CR5 battery? > > Vic > > On 23 Jun 2000, "Peter W. Borders" wrote: > > > I have an A50 and rellay like it. Also, I bought it about 6-8 months ago for over $400 and that was the best price at the > > time, you got a great deal. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:08:28 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <002501bfe04d$da9a1d60$43fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The Sony memory stick is just a typical attempt to force people to buy something from them and I think that is really stupid. I haven't seen any feature of the memory stick that isn't already in CF and it isn't really that much smaller either. The memory stick is more likely to fragment the market than the springboard is since the memory stick is being positioned as an exact replacement for CF technology. Smart media was another example of stupid computer tricks and an attempt to fragment the market. It was supposed to be so much cheaper than CF since the controller was built into the device instead of into every memory card, as in CF, but the savings never paned out. CF volume lowered its price to make smart media, the dumb choice, especially given the fact that since the controller is in the device an older device can't automatically use the newest cards. Most of the first generation of MP3 players that used smart media can't handle the 64M cards since their controllers were only built to handle up to 32M cards, talk about stupid. So as of today we have PCMCIA and CF (CF is a subset of pcmcia and closely tied to it), Smart (dumb) Media and Sony Memory Stick (it to the user). Also, I have seen a couple others that are in development. Wouldn't it have been fun all those years if there were this many different format and sizes of floppy drives? How about a video store that had to handle 4 or 5 different formats of every new movie? Pete On 27 Jun 2000, at 10:39, Barry wrote: > >>>>> So because you already own a pcmcia modem you will never buy > any other similar format? What about a compact flash modem for the > latest handheld? What about the new faster whatever that just came > out. You talk about the 2-3 year > lifespan of the system but you neglect to mention the similar > lfespan of the device, be it pcmcia, CF or whatever.<<<<<< > > Palm and Sony have already announced that they'll both be producing > PalmOS devices with Sony memory sticks before the end of the year. > Palm expects to have at least 3 models with memory sticks by then > and Sony hopes to have one or two models if I remember right. > > Given that and the popularity of Palms and the trust people have in > the Sony brand, I won't be surprised if the memory stick becomes a > major contender. In any case, their adoption by Palm will probably > eventually lead most companies producing Palm-like PalmOS devices to > use them too. If so a lot of people will end up with a lot of > different sets of plug-in modules for various devices. But a lot of > people who can afford to wait till the dust settles, probably will. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:14:01 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <8825690B.005966E8.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT True that the LCD is the battery killer but that is also the best feature of a digital camera. I find that it is much easier to frame shots at odd angles and such with the LCD then to try and bend my neck into some weird position to see through the viewfinder. That is probably why I average many less frames per battery. There is hope on the horizon though, the LCD in the newest Canon, the S100 digital Elph, uses much less power from what I have read and presents a better image as well. Good old trickle down of new advanced technology saves the day again. Now if they would just make the silly things cheaper. :-) Pete On 27 Jun 2000, at 9:15, Longden Loo wrote: > I just ran down my 2CR5 battery on Sunday, after about 5 days of use and maybe > 75-100 shots. Hard to say cuz I deleted probably as many shots as I kept. > > I'm not surprised tho. I did the same (short battery life) on my Canon Rebel > 35mm SLR initially, because a lot of time was spent playing with the controls, > flash and autofocus, which you wouldn't do once you're acclimated to the camera. > > The A50 (and maybe other cameras too) lets you shut down the LCD and just use > the optical viewfinder ... or use the viewfinder and just pop the image only > after the shot is taken (to confirm what you caught). Constant LCD use for > previewing and playback seems to be the power killer, and once you're > comfortable with a camera you shouldn't have to do this as often. > > - Longden > > > > > > Victor Roberts on 06/27/2000 04:36:45 AM > > Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond > to victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) > Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max > > > > About how many shots do you get from one 2CR5 battery? > > Vic > > On 23 Jun 2000, "Peter W. Borders" wrote: > > > I have an A50 and rellay like it. Also, I bought it about 6-8 months ago for > over $400 and that was the best price at the time, > > you got a great deal. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:21:50 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: Longden Loo , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <8825690B.005EDDB3.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The one I have is the BP-5, I guess I should have remembered that. I don;t know what the BP-5B is, sounds like a modification of the BP-5. I will point out before you spend your money, it takes a small modification to the battery end to work in the A50. If you look at your A50 you will see that it has a small slot for the battery cord to come out of the battery compartment with a sliding door on it. The cord on the BP-5 comes out of the top and the A50 needs it to come out of the side. Since I did this in a hotel room with virtually no tools anyone should be able to handle the change at home. The battery part of the BP-5 prys apart easily and the wire with contacts comes out. Then all you need is a wire sized hole in the proper place, put the wires back through and put the contacts back on. I used a little dab of glue inside the battery part to hold the halves together and viola, everything worked. Pete PS. You might want to look for a picture of the BP-5B just incase it already has the wire coming out the right side. On 27 Jun 2000, at 10:14, Longden Loo wrote: > The link I sent mentioned Canon part BP-5B, but there's also a BP-5 ... both are > $60 and I'm not sure which is more adaptible to the digital cameras. > > This is the link for BP-5 -> http://shop.store.yahoo.com/camerasphere/cnbp5.html > > - Longden > > ---------------------- Forwarded by Longden Loo/AGH/Candle on 06/27/2000 10:11 > AM --------------------------- > > From: Longden Loo on 06/27/2000 10:09 AM > > > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > cc: > Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max (Document link: Longden Loo) > > Found it at -> http://www.camera-sphere.com/camerasphere/cnbp5b.html > > $60 belt-carried unit that holds 4 D cells for 7.5 times the life of a 2CR5. > Definitely a good item to keep in the photo bag (or in the car) for the "heavy > artillery". > > Hardly chic, but very interesting. Now if only the LX used a 2CR5 . > > - Longden > > > > > "Peter W. Borders" on 06/26/2000 02:14:36 PM > > Please respond to tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) > Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max > > > > Not anymore but I originally found it by going to an online camera store and > searching the accessories for the Canon EOS > line. It is well described when you find it. > > > > > I'll have to look into this D cell adapter. Do you have a part number? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:24:52 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <8825690B.005E56D7.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ok, thanks to that second picture I remember the difference. The BP-5B comes with a replacement bottom for the camera it is made to work with. The BP-5 comes with a replacement handle part if I remember correctly. I think the main part, battery case and dummy battery, are the same in both. Pete On 27 Jun 2000, at 10:09, Longden Loo wrote: > Found it at -> http://www.camera-sphere.com/camerasphere/cnbp5b.html > > $60 belt-carried unit that holds 4 D cells for 7.5 times the life of a 2CR5. > Definitely a good item to keep in the photo bag (or in the car) for the "heavy > artillery". > > Hardly chic, but very interesting. Now if only the LX used a 2CR5 . > > - Longden > > > > > > "Peter W. Borders" on 06/26/2000 02:14:36 PM > > Please respond to tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) > Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max > > > > Not anymore but I originally found it by going to an online camera store and > searching the accessories for the Canon EOS > line. It is well described when you find it. > > > > > I'll have to look into this D cell adapter. Do you have a part number? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:03:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Peter W. Borders" wrote: > > The Sony memory stick is just a typical attempt to force people to buy something from them and I think that is really > stupid. I haven't seen any feature of the memory stick that isn't already in CF and it isn't really that much smaller either. The > memory stick is more likely to fragment the market than the springboard is since the memory stick is being positioned as > Even more evidence of this is that the new Sony cameras (such as the S70 and the 505V) no longer allow you to pick your JPEG compression level. Only one low compression storage eating level is available for each resolution now, so that you have to buy more memory sticks. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:03:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens Comments: To: ddvteach@JUNO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: D Dv To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:19 PM Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens >A very important point I forgot to make: None of the Palm III series >screens were nearly as good as the hplx screen, when viewed >without a backlight. Actually i would place the HPlx screen at better than the Palm III but would place the Palm IIIx/IIIxe/V/Vx on at least even footing with the HPLX. The HPLX has an edge due to its higher resolution but the clarity of the latest Palms is quite good. Dan driden@stlnet.com > >Domingo > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:15:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens Comments: To: ddvteach@JUNO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: D Dv To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens >On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:52:49 -0400 David Ness writes: >> Have you seen the specs on the (supposedly) soon-to-be-released >> Compaq PDA? >> >> http://WWW.COMPAq.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/ > >Some, battery life will still be a problem, and it is stil Wince (the new >is basically like the old, in a prettier package). battery life is a problem no-doubt... but you can make the most of it by disabling the side light on the screen... their reflective color screen is the only color device out there at the moment which doesnt need a backlight to be productive. Also a note about CE... Pocket PC is basically WinCE 3.0 and has some of the same problems as in the past... but its lightyears ahead of their previous offering with much closer to realtime performance, better apps, and a much streamlined interface. but... if you can't stand CE (and i can see why many can't... ive got mixed feelings myself) the Compaq Pocket PC has another very good option... its OS is in 16mb of Flash ram and can be updated... Compaq already has a 'beta' installation available for download which replaces WinCE with LINUX with an xwindows gui, pim, mp3, mpeg, etc. This beats the Yopi out the door by a few months with a LINUX pda. > >> I have heard very good things about its screen, but have yet to see a >> regular production version so I can't speak firsthand about it. The >> specs look quite good to me though. > >I have being watching the Palm since it first came out, hoping it >would get better. I am glad I waited. The level of development >and third party support is very impressive. I have also >been watching Wince. Pardon me if I seem gross, but it doesn't >matter if you wash a pig (rename it), or if you dress it in the lattest >styles of clothes (Hp & Compact), it is still a pig (Wince. Yes, I read >about the new tinkering with the OS, and I am still not convinced, and >neither are third party companies, nor most consumers). >My original poing was intended to suggest that Hp has gone a long >way to make Wince very attractive. As a palm developer... i can definitely agree that Palm has an impressive array of tools and software available to date. I also until Pocket PC had completely written off WINCE as a bad dream. Although i also am no huge fan of Microsoft Pocket PC does a few things right. - Free development tools (used to cost big $$$, now they are free just pay shipping) - Very good visual tools VB and VC++. First MS products ive actually liked in a LONG time. - New UI is much closer to Palm in simplicity... but still has a way to go. - Developers are starting to come around to Pocket PC... check out www.pocketgear.com. Im currently reviewing a 545 for a possible development platform and so far using MS's embedded development tools (VB, VC++) and my 545 as a development system has been the cleanest most productive development environment ive used in handheld development. And im no Windows/MS zelot... i was spouting anti-ms / anti-Wince quite strongly a few months ago... but i'll give credit where i see it. Dan driden@stlnet.com > >Domingo > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:13:52 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Consumer reports battery check Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > I lost faith in Consumer Reports when they tested early home > computers. They reccomended Commodore as the only practical home Like almost every organization you can imagine CR makes what appears to be a mistake from time to time. I haven't agreed with everything they reviewed. I do think they are basically sound and truely unbiased. If you can agree with HOW they test then I think you can believe in the results of their tests. Considering all the hype, lies, and twisted truth from manufactures it is good to know that organizations like Consumer Reports exist. When I research a product in their magazine instead of impulse buying my satisfaction is normally much higher in the long run. If you don't believe in CR who are you going to believe in? I don't believe there are ANY other organizations as reliable. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:32:22 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Free ISP Comments: To: sputnik@voicenet.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is the url for the free ISPs from the Palm guy. http://www.geocities.com/daveinfopage/palmpilot_freeISP.html Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:16:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: Longden Loo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for your comments. Vic On 27 Jun 2000 09:10:27 -0700, Longden Loo wrote: > I have a couple of Canon's, so therein lies my brand-name bias, tho I'll admit > that the expensive battery issue irks me also. Ýsnip¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:16:23 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: Longden Loo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The real issue is not the 2CR5 but the fact that the LX needs a 12V external power source instead of a 6V source. You could wire two of these D cell belt packs in series. Even more chic. Vic On 27 Jun 2000, Longden Loo wrote: > Found it at -> http://www.camera-sphere.com/camerasphere/cnbp5b.html > > $60 belt-carried unit that holds 4 D cells for 7.5 times the life of a 2CR5. > Definitely a good item to keep in the photo bag (or in the car) for the "heavy > artillery". > > Hardly chic, but very interesting. Now if only the LX used a 2CR5 . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:16:26 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: "Peter W. Borders" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks. I know the batteries are expensive, but I thought that someone posted an on-line source that sells them for less than $5.00 each. On 27 Jun 2000, "Peter W. Borders" wrote: > I have never actualy counted it but I know it is not very many. I was suprised how soon the low battery indicator started > showing up and how soon after that the camera would just turn itself off. I would suspect, using the flash and the LCD > screen, somewhere around 30-40 but that is just my gut feeling without actually counting. Considering that a 64M CF card > amounts to 300 or so pictures that is rather expensive at $12 a battery (locally). I might as well go out and buy FILM. :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:21:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens Comments: To: ddvteach@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:29 PM Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens > > A very important point I forgot to make: None of the Palm III series > screens were nearly as good as the hplx screen, when viewed > without a backlight. I have a Palm 3x and 3 200lx's and 1 100lx and 2 95lx's. I've had 2 other 95lxs and one other 100lx in the past. None of the lx's had a screen as good as contrasty as the Palm 3x. Not even close. I rarely use the backlight on the 3x. I think it's fairly useless much. So all these comparisons were made without the backlight. However, I also have a Palm 3c and the screen on that is as good as my laptop screen; and brighter. And my laptop is an IBM Thinkpad with a very bright TFT screen, one of the best and brightest laptop screens of all. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:31:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard Comments: To: ddvteach@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:10 PM Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard > > This gives cause for some pause. But then, memory sticks will be > horribly expensive, Palm or no Palm, and that will drive CF prices down > further, which will be a good thing for Hplx users (and TrgPro users as > well). If the memory sticks do well in the Palm, I'll be surprised if TRGPro doesn't offer something with memory sticks, too. > As Stephan, said, this is another attemp at getting more money out > of our pockets, so I for one will not lose sleep over Palm supporting > the memory sticks. Everything produced by anybody is another attempt at getting more money out of our pockets. Why do you think HP built the LX? Because they thought it would make us happy? It's because they hoped it would make their stockholders happy. By the way, going back to the Visor, the problem of no upgradable rom has kind of been glossed over. I think that alone makes it a terrible choice. They come with rom 3.1 and rom 3.5 offers a lot of new features. And there are more upgrades to come. Palm is good about that. It gets harder and harder to support the older roms so developers have already started saying things like rom 3+ or rom 3.1+ on their requirements. I suspect that in another year there won't be much new software that the Visor with rom 3.1 can use. Palm's 3e and (I think) 3xe have the same problem. These are almost disposable devices. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:05:25 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200006280016.UAA24244@spdmraab.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT That was me, www.wholesaleadvantage.com, $4.92 each plus shipping (reasonable). Still rather expensive and odds are you won't have one handy when you really need it. :-) Pete On 27 Jun 2000, at 20:16, Victor Roberts wrote: > Thanks. I know the batteries are expensive, but I thought that > someone posted an on-line source that sells them for less than > $5.00 each. > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:08:06 -0400 Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <000d01bfe098$3c8d3080$7cfc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have seen this mentioned before but just because it is on rom doesn't mean it is not upgradable. My Velo 1 had it OS in rom and I upgraded to the new OS with a replacement chip from Philips. Do you know if the rom is replacable on the visor, I would be suprised if it wasn't? Pete On 27 Jun 2000, at 19:31, Barry wrote: > If the memory sticks do well in the Palm, I'll be surprised if > TRGPro doesn't offer something with memory sticks, too. > > > As Stephan, said, this is another attemp at getting more money out > > of our pockets, so I for one will not lose sleep over Palm > supporting > > the memory sticks. > > Everything produced by anybody is another attempt at getting more > money out of our pockets. Why do you think HP built the LX? > Because they thought it would make us happy? It's because they > hoped it would make their stockholders happy. > > By the way, going back to the Visor, the problem of no upgradable > rom has kind of been glossed over. I think that alone makes it a > terrible choice. They come with rom 3.1 and rom 3.5 offers a lot of > new features. And there are more upgrades to come. Palm is good > about that. > > It gets harder and harder to support the older roms so developers > have already started saying things like rom 3+ or rom 3.1+ on their > requirements. I suspect that in another year there won't be much > new software that the Visor with rom 3.1 can use. Palm's 3e and (I > think) 3xe have the same problem. These are almost disposable > devices. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:19:43 +0700 Reply-To: "Iqbal R. Wilis - Priv" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Iqbal R. Wilis - Priv" Organization: PT. Karya Purna Wiratama Subject: Re: Keyboard vs stylus Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Basically, if you don't have more than a word or two or three to > enter, or if you need a diagram, Palm easily wins. Around 4 or 5 > words, 200lx catches up. Over 5 words and the 200lx runs out in > front pretty fast. * Try using the Foldable Portable Keyboard from Think Outside Inc (distributed byPalmComputing (www.palm.com), it's an amazing thing iqbal ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:26:43 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: OT: New DOS Trick Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And here I thought I had discovered America! Ken London wrote: > > > > Just discovered a new DOS "feature". Works with Win95 DOS. Does not work > > on the HP200LX w/MSDOS 5.0. It is "cd..." listed below. > > > > > > It is not really new. I've been using it for many years. > -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:52:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , FRiC Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: FRiC Subject: Re: OT: New DOS Trick In-Reply-To: <002f01bfe05f$fc998e20$e810f4d0@beld.net> from Ken London at "Jun 27, 2000 01:49:05 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Just discovered a new DOS "feature". Works with Win95 DOS. Does not work > > on the HP200LX w/MSDOS 5.0. It is "cd..." listed below. > > > > cd... (moves up two directories) > > cd.. (moves to parent) > > cd. (stays in current) > > cd\ (moves to root) > > It is not really new. I've been using it for many years. Indeed, this was available as a built-in thing since Windows 95. You can also use more dots to move up more directories, i.e. cd .... (moves up three directories) cd ........... (moves up ten directories) etc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:46:36 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Colin Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Re: Keyboard vs stylus In-Reply-To: <002d01bfe051$7e4cd300$43fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry's comments duplicate my experience. For fast access to data and also synchronization with the PC, the Palm has the edge. For one handed access to a phone number in the car, the LX wins hands down. I'm not saying that this is a prudent action but you need some type of a car mount to accomplish this with the Palm. The LX is more of a stand alone computer. These days I carry the Palm, the LX is reserved for special situations. I'm stuck with both but it's soooo nice to have a choice. Colin --- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Barry Subject: Keyboard vs stylus >>>>I like a keyboard, maybe this is a mindset, can anyone comment on non keyboard v keyboard PPC's & HPC's.<<<<< I use the 200lx and a Palm 3x (and 3c). I think for those times when you just have to write a quick phone number like you might on a spare piece of paper, the Palm is considerably faster. I use a drawing program for this and I write with my normal handwriting on the page itself. Then later if I want to keep that information or expand on it, I'll make a phone book entry. To actually make a phone book entry, counting from the time the device leaves your pocket to the time it returns to your pocket, the Palm is slightly faster, but YMMV. There's not a lot of difference. The actual data entry is a little slower on the Palm but getting it open and into position and in the light is faster with the Palm. But if you're trying to help Jefferson write the Declaration of Independance, or any lengthy piece of text, the 200lx is MUCH faster. There's no contest at all. The same is true for a paragraph or two. I've never learned to touch type on my 200lx although I do on a normal keyboard. But even entering data with 2 thumbs can be pretty fast. I've gotten pretty good at Grafitti (not the best but ok) but it's still much slower. But if you want to do a quick sketch of a map to the restaurant where your lunch meeting will be, Palm wins. It works beautifully. 200lx owner asks the Palm owner for a ride. :) Basically, if you don't have more than a word or two or three to enter, or if you need a diagram, Palm easily wins. Around 4 or 5 words, 200lx catches up. Over 5 words and the 200lx runs out in front pretty fast. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:47:19 -0400 Reply-To: RickRae@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Rae Subject: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? In-Reply-To: <200006280016.UAA24223@spdmraab.compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I have hunted around and come up empty, so I thought I'd ask the list... Does anyone know of an IRC client that will run on a 200LX? I don't need much -- just a way to know which users are on the channel I'm on, and the ability to send/receive messages and queries. I need Borland C source code too, since this is needed to connect to a decidedly NON-standard server. Thanks for any suggestions anyone can offer, Rick ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:55:01 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > BTW - I have a couple of Pentax 35mm cameras with a number of > lenses and other accessories for the "good stuff". What I want > now is a rather decent, low cost digital camera for those shots > which I just "must" e-mail to people That brings up the problem - how do you know which one to bring to what occasion? (G) Too many choices, too little time! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:05:03 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What I'm more interested in is whether two of the even more expensive NiMH batteries (one as primary and the other as backup) will give me enough shots to last till I get to an AC source. I know it all utlimately depends on how many shots and how I use the camera, but I'm curious to see how the NiMH generally holds up compared to the 2CR5. After all, NiMH hardly holds a candle to alkalines or lithiums on the LX (non-modem use) ... but are more than adequate since they easily last a day and therefore can usually get an overnight recharge - Longden "Peter W. Borders" on 06/27/2000 06:05:25 PM Please respond to tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max That was me, www.wholesaleadvantage.com, $4.92 each plus shipping (reasonable). Still rather expensive and odds are you won't have one handy when you really need it. :-) Pete On 27 Jun 2000, at 20:16, Victor Roberts wrote: > Thanks. I know the batteries are expensive, but I thought that > someone posted an on-line source that sells them for less than > $5.00 each. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:55:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , qman@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Quinton Jones, Jr." Subject: Re: Printing. Comments: To: "Suquet, Stephan" Yea, its called OmniPrint and is available on the Super Site. HTH Regards, Qman... ----Original Message----- >From: "Suquet, Stephan" >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU >Subject: Printing. >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List ,"Suquet, Stephan" >Date: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 6:36 AM > >Hi all, > >Does anyone know if there4s a program allowing to print from the LX through a desktop machine ? > >If yes, where can it be downloaded. > > >Thanks a lot and regards. > > >Stiphane SUQUET LIZARRAGA >PLANIFICACION ECONOMICO-FINANCIERA >AGUAS PROVINCIALES DE SANTA FE S.A. >Tel: 0341 420 6713 / Fax: 0341 420 6746 > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:29:51 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: Canon A50 camera at Office Max Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <88256907.0012E96D.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have a A50, this is a good camera, but I didn't pay $199, it was a lot more expensive. For infomation the an A50 do not use the same lens than the S10, there is an 28-74 (eqv) zoom. > On a tip from my brother, I stopped at a local Office Max (don't know how > well distributed they are outside of California) and found a Canon S10 at > the usual $499 price, and the A50 was marked down to $199. I bought the > last one in the store (aside from the display, which had a crooked lens > cover). > > So if any of you are looking for a cheap digital camera, and happen to > live near an Office Max, you might want to check them out. The A50 is the > predecessor to the S10 and sports only 1.3 megpixels and only a CF-I slot > (no 1gig Microdrive for me), but looks like a really robust unit. Heck, I > even have change left over to buy another camera . Al Wyn@comcen.com.au Sydney / Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:07:58 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? Rick Rae writes: > Does anyone know of an IRC client that will run on a 200LX? I don't need > much -- just a way to know which users are on the channel I'm on, and the > ability to send/receive messages and queries. I need Borland C source code > too, since this is needed to connect to a decidedly NON-standard server. This isn't exactly what you're asking for, but might help. You could use the built-in Data Comm or Rod Whitby's LXTELNET to connect to a Unix shell and then run ircii. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:11:27 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: 12V external vs 3V internal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >The real issue is not the 2CR5 but the fact that the LX needs >a 12V external power source instead of a 6V source. You could I am puzzled why does the LX need 12V external, when internal batteries of 3V is enough to run it. Anyone has any idea ? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:25:24 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: Re: OT: New DOS Trick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain A couple more poorly known tricks for DOS Win95 Note that you cannot use cd ... under a DOS mode DOS, but only in a DOS session. (You will have to cd..\.. for that) So the DOS 7 with Win95 does not really support these cool extentions, but Win95 somehow runs another "cd" syntax under a session. Another cool feature is the extended XCOPY - look at XCOPY /? under Win 95 and see the long list. Now look at XCOPY /? after restarting in DOS mode. Much shorter list. More extentions include: DIR *00* which will find files called HP200LX and HP700LX, but this will not work in DOS mode. The DIR command has actually been made quite a bit nicer. My 2c. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert K. Meyer ÝSMTP:bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM¨ > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 3:27 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: OT: New DOS Trick > > And here I thought I had discovered America! > > Ken London wrote: > > > > > > > Just discovered a new DOS "feature". Works with Win95 DOS. Does not > work > > > on the HP200LX w/MSDOS 5.0. It is "cd..." listed below. > > > > > > > > > > It is not really new. I've been using it for many years. > > > -- > +--------------------+-----------------+ > |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| > |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| > |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| > +--------------------+-----------------+ > | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | > +--------------------------------------+ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:01:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: 12V external vs 3V internal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:24:53 -0400 (EDT) 09m44s ago ... On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Teo Soon Bock wrote: > I am puzzled why does the LX need 12V external, when internal batteries = of > 3V is enough to run it. > > Anyone has any idea ? Probably because the external supply must also feed the battery charging circuit. To provide the two more-or-less constant charging rates, the supply needs to exceed the nominal battery voltage. The actual specs for an external supply are 9.6V - 14.4V (12V +/- 20%). At least with mine, the charger becomes unstable at 9V, and switches on and off (I was using a regulated supply). The LX should work OK at 10V and run cooler. Later, Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:55:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: PC card power limits MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Hi folks - Came across this info in the LX Ref while looking for Power Management and XBRAM material. Thought I'd post it here since the topic comes up here pretty regularly. (To quote the reference): "The quoted maximum power available at the card port on the HP Palmtop is 150mA @ 5V =3D 750mW (Vcc pin) 60mA @ 12V =3D 720mW (Vpp pin) Where both can be activated at the same time. This value is LIMITED BY THE OUTPUT OF THE POWER SUPPLY, AND NOT WHETHER IT IS RUNNING ON BATTERY VS AC." Later, Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:28:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Lionel Zuckier Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lionel Zuckier Subject: stock-tracker In-Reply-To: <200006280401.AAA28946@post.aecom.yu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone recommend a program for the 200LX that will track purchase and sales of stocks with calculation of capital gains (ie first in, first out)? Can the built-in Quicken do this? thanks, Lionel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:47:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Fluff: A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer) emulator Hi Mark, >I, too, had a TS1000, and then a TS2068, which got me through >college the second time--I used a BASIC template and the >Sinclair BASIC editing features to write my term papers, >saving files on cassette. I even did my term project for >science methods class (teaching) on the 2068--a program to >demonstrate an electrical circuit, using the Sinclair BASIC >graphics commands--I got an A! If the TS2068 was the color computer, I had one too. I had a lot of fun writing BASIC programs on that, too. :-) What memories! :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:15:32 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klopper Donald Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klopper Donald Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? Comments: To: "theise@netins.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain This seems like a fair idea if you send keystrokes (you'll have to know the sequence) to the Unix shell, and then pipe the output to a text file, after which you interpret the text file in a program to show you the current users. That same program can set up the shell scripts if you want to send or receive messages. ----------------- Donald Klopper - dhKit (cc) Delphi Analyst/Programmer / BHIS Consulting Room 127, Sedibeng Building, Pretoria o__ Tel: +27 12 336-7256 _.>/)_ Cell:+27 82 468-7480 (_) \(_) klopperd@dwaf.pwv.gov.za Alt: dhkit@icon.co.za .-+= This tagline is umop apisdn. =+-. > -----Original Message----- > From: Theodore Heise ÝSMTP:theise@NETINS.NET¨ > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 2:08 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? > > Rick Rae writes: > > > Does anyone know of an IRC client that will run on a 200LX? I don't > need > > much -- just a way to know which users are on the channel I'm on, and > the > > ability to send/receive messages and queries. I need Borland C source > code > > too, since this is needed to connect to a decidedly NON-standard server. > > > This isn't exactly what you're asking for, but might help. You could > use the built-in Data Comm or Rod Whitby's LXTELNET to connect to a > Unix shell and then run ircii. > > Ted > > -- > Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA > PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:18:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , michstocker@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Stocker Subject: Re: stock-tracker Comments: To: Lionel Zuckier MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A simple 123 spreadsheet can do this for you. > Can anyone recommend a program for the 200LX that will track purchase and > sales of stocks with calculation of capital gains (ie first in, first > out)? Can the built-in Quicken do this? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:25:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:15:32 +0200, Klopper Donald wrote: > This seems like a fair idea if you send keystrokes (you'll have to know the > sequence) to the Unix shell, and then pipe the output to a text file, after > which you interpret the text file in a program to show you the current > users. > > That same program can set up the shell scripts if you want to send or > receive messages. If you can still find a copy of Voice, it works on the LX. D&A makes LX/IRC, but it seems to basically be a port of ircII, but lacks some features of ircII. You can run ircII or BitchX from a prompt on a UNIX shell account. I don't recommend using Datacom as it is extremely slow. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:24:28 PDT Reply-To: stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: TECH: suggested mobile phones Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Which one would you suggest to be the perfect LX companion? Ericsson R320 Ericsson i888 World Do they have IR? I think that no softmodem will work with LX, does any? TIA -goe- ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:18:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Visor Springboard is no CF slot! Comments: To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:55:57 -0400 "Peter W. Borders" writes: > Not really, all someone has to do is make a springboard pcmcia > adaptor, which is possible because the springboard slot is > open in the back. Also, just because all these cards exist doesn't > mean that they are usable in any given machine, they > would all need driver support which, as 200lx users, we all know is > not always available. That reminds me of trying to run DOS under Wince. All the reports I read indicate that any simple backup to flash on the VIsor will always make a significant battery hit, whereas CF on the TrgPro hardly draws any juice. So an adaptor would probably aggravate the battery issue. No expert here, though. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:36:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens Comments: To: driden@stlnet.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:15:06 -0500 "Dan Ridenhour" writes: > -----Original Message----- > From: D Dv > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Date: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:22 PM > Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens > Im currently reviewing a 545 for a possible development platform and > so far using MS's > embedded development tools (VB, VC++) and my 545 as a development > system has been > the cleanest most productive development environment ive used in > handheld development. > And im no Windows/MS zelot... i was spouting anti-ms / anti-Wince > quite strongly a few months ago... but i'll give credit where i see it. I am not antiMS (some of my favorite applications are for Windows. And yes Wince has gotten much better. My prejudiced point of view is the HP200LX and DOS. When looking for: 1-Good battery life in a fast, small device 2-Small, efficient applications and environment 3-Reasonable cost of applications 4-Good selection of special applications 5-Well established platform 6-Other perceptions derived from prefering the hplx only the palm platform is like that. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:04:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens Comments: To: barry@fbtc.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:21:36 -0500 "Barry" writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:29 PM > Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens > > I have a Palm 3x and 3 200lx's and 1 100lx and 2 95lx's. I've had 2 > other 95lxs and one other 100lx in the past. None of the lx's had a > screen as good as contrasty as the Palm 3x. Not even close. > > I rarely use the backlight on the 3x. I think it's fairly useless > much. So all these comparisons were made without the backlight. Well, since you own all that stuff, you must know what you are saying. My brief stop at the store did not indicate that. However, all this talk about Palm has finally got me going. I have ordered a TrgPro. If you are right then I should be pretty happy with the screen. I chose that one because of the possibility of sharing files with my hp200lx (I have a 96 meg CF card), and because there are some Palm tools for DOS which run nicely on the Hplx. My goal is to have the same data on both devices, as much as possible, anyway. (I am still hoping for the hplx backlight). Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:53:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard Comments: To: barry@fbtc.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:31:40 -0500 "Barry" writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:10 PM > Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard > Everything produced by anybody is another attempt at getting more > money out of our pockets. Why do you think HP built the LX? > Because they thought it would make us happy? It's because they > hoped it would make their stockholders happy. As I understood it from Stephan and as I meant it, they are trying to give you less value for your money, hence more money for them. The HPLX series stands unique as truly more value for your money. > It gets harder and harder to support the older roms so developers > have already started saying things like rom 3+ or rom 3.1+ on their > requirements. I suspect that in another year there won't be much > new software that the Visor with rom 3.1 can use. Palm's 3e and (I > think) 3xe have the same problem. These are almost disposable > devices. Well, starting from the Palm Vx, and continuing with the 3c, a tendency has begun to be very noticeable, of giving more power at the expense of battery life. They are trying to hide that fact with the rechargeables. That's why I discounted the Vx after first loving it. Same for the 3c. Plus people are beginning to find that applications which support color are more bloated on the palm. All this suggests, in my mind, that there will be a group of renegades (like us), who will prefer a good balance of convenience, good battery life, and reasonable power, over an inbalanced but powerful device. So I doubt the disposable theory personally. But indeed, I don't like the fact that Palm is trying to be more like CE, while CE is trying to be more like Palm. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:27:49 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Vic Roberts wrote: > Just to set the record straight, I do not use QEMM on my 800CT. > Only on my OB530. These are two separate problems. Well, I know near nothing about the 530. And precious little about the QEMM problem. I know that you get some catastrophic failure when you run WWW/LX on the notebook. I know that QEMM resports illegal use by WWW/LX. That's about it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:27:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Printing. Comments: To: Rafael Humberto Padilla Velazquez MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Since the topic of printing from the palmtop is of general interest, maybe you guys can find it in your hearts to write the tips in English? Unless, of course, it is a secret! :-) Avi Rafael Humberto Padilla Velazquez wrote: > Hola yo uso el OMNIPRN programa es fantastico! > > >From: Jorge Peri > >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorge > >Peri > >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > >Subject: Re: Printing. > >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:42:44 -0300 > > > >Hola! Yo uso el Interlink de DOS, que ademas es mucho mas practico para > >copiar archivos de la palmtop > >a la PC y viceversa. A tus ordenes para aclarar dudas. Saludos. Jorge > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Suquet, Stephan > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:36 AM > >Subject: Printing. > > > > > >Hi all, > > > >Does anyone know if there4s a program allowing to print from the LX through > >a desktop machine ? > > > >If yes, where can it be downloaded. > > > > > >Thanks a lot and regards. > > > > > >Stiphane SUQUET LIZARRAGA > >PLANIFICACION ECONOMICO-FINANCIERA > >AGUAS PROVINCIALES DE SANTA FE S.A. > >Tel: 0341 420 6713 / Fax: 0341 420 6746 > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:56:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Keyboard vs stylus Comments: To: burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:46:36 -0700 Colin Thompson writes: > Barry's comments duplicate my experience. For fast access to data and also > synchronization with the PC, the Palm has the edge. For one handed access > to a phone number in the car, the LX wins hands down. I'm not saying that > this is a prudent action but you need some type of a car mount to accomplish > this with the Palm. The LX is more of a stand alone computer. > These days I carry the Palm, the LX is reserved for special situations. I'm > stuck with both but it's soooo nice to have a choice. Colin, have you tried swapping text files between your TrgPro and your HPLX via CF? How did it go? Can your Palm easily absorb such files? Much obligated. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:07:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: PC card power limits Comments: To: peniel@WEB2000.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:55:00 -0400 Peniel Romanelli writes: > Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:15:10 -0400 (EDT) > > Came across this info in the LX Ref while looking for Power Management > and XBRAM material. Thought I'd post it here since the topic comes > up here pretty regularly. (To quote the reference): I was looking for this information in the manual last week, but could not find it. Is this LX Ref a different resource? TIA Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:53:26 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: stock-tracker Comments: To: Lionel Zuckier MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Can anyone recommend a program for the 200LX that will track purchase and > sales of stocks with calculation of capital gains (ie first in, first > out)? Can the built-in Quicken do this? Quicken won't...I just use a Lotus 123 spreadsheet. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:02:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard Comments: To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter W. Borders" Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 8:08 PM Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard > I have seen this mentioned before but just because it is on rom doesn't mean it is not upgradable. My Velo 1 had it OS in > rom and I upgraded to the new OS with a replacement chip from Philips. Do you know if the rom is replacable on the visor, I > would be suprised if it wasn't? I don't know but I'd be surprised if the rom wasn't soldered in. That is the cheapest way to do it and this is a pretty inexpensive device. If they decided to skimp on the flash they probably decided to skimp on a socket for the rom. But I'm just guessing. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:15:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens Comments: To: ddvteach@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens > > Well, since you own all that stuff, you must know what you are saying. > My brief stop at the store did not indicate that. However, all this > talk > about Palm has finally got me going. I have ordered a TrgPro. If you > are right then I should be pretty happy with the screen. I chose that > one > because of the possibility of sharing files with my hp200lx (I have a > 96 meg CF card), and because there are some Palm tools for DOS > which run nicely on the Hplx. My goal is to have the same data on both > devices, as much as possible, anyway. (I am still hoping for the hplx > backlight). Have you found out whether the TRGPro and the 200lx use the same card format? Hopefully they were smart enough to do that. I've done a little business with TRG and I've been pretty impressed with them so far. I thought about buying a TRGPro instead of the 3c but the brightness convinced me to get the 3c. I've also heard that the TRGPro backlight is better than the 3x backlight. How much I don't know. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:24:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ahzilly@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:13:22 +0100 (BST) 03h48m02s ago ... On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:25:20 -0700 (CST), Jeff wrote: > D&A makes LX/IRC, but it seems to basically be a port of ircII, Jeff, FYI IRC/LX was not created by porting ircII source code to the palmtop. Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:20:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard Comments: To: ddvteach@juno.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My impression has been not that Palm is moving toward WinCE but that they're offering more options. They're selling a lot of 3x's and a lot of Palm V's. I don't know about the 3c. I think they're just trying to make something available for everyone. Barry > Well, starting from the Palm Vx, and continuing with the 3c, a tendency > has begun to be very noticeable, of giving more power at the expense > of battery life. They are trying to hide that fact with the > rechargeables. > That's why I discounted the Vx after first loving it. Same for the 3c. > Plus people are beginning to find that applications which support > color are more bloated on the palm. All this suggests, in my mind, > that there will be a group of renegades (like us), who will prefer > a good balance of convenience, good battery life, and reasonable > power, over an inbalanced but powerful device. So I doubt the > disposable > theory personally. But indeed, I don't like the fact that Palm is > trying to be > more like CE, while CE is trying to be more like Palm. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:34:01 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:24:01 +0100, Tony Hutchins wrote: > Jeff, FYI IRC/LX was not created by porting ircII source code to the > palmtop. But it seems to be a very close clone without the dcc features. For just general chatting it would be fine if you didn't need support of some of the other features of most IRC clients. I do wonder why there isn't a true port of ircII to DOS, especially since the source code is available. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:32:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 27 Jun 2000 (#2000-230) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't mean to imply that using grafitti was faster than using the 200lx keyboard. I think the keyboard is always faster. I think the Palm wins the race with a couple of words because it's faster to get it out, open, the app running and to get started writing. The main reason is that it fits in your palm so you don't have to jockey for the best position and it's better in dimmer light so you don't have to work as hard to get the best light. But that's a small difference and if you're entering more than just a few words the increased speed of typing makes up for it. I'm fairly good with Grafitti but I type faster with the 200lx then I can enter the same thing in the Palm. And I usually have more mistakes to correct in the Palm. Barry Barry >>>>I did find that I _always_ preferred the 200 for just about any input capture task, unless a `picture' was involved, but that is probably just personal taste. The notion that anyone could input graffiti at anything like the speed I could type was absurd in my experience, even if the graffiti writers had been doing it for years.<<<< ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:22:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: PC card power limits MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Hi, Domingo - 20m57s ago ... On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, D Dv wrote: > I was looking for this information in the manual last week, but could = not > find it. > Is this LX Ref a different resource? Yep, it's different. I got it from the site run by the mysterious individual called "HPLX". Probably a bootleg copy of the Developer's Guide. Anyway it has lots of "under-the-hood" info on the palmtops. Handy resource. Last guy I heard about it from said the link was broken 8-< Haven't been back to check it out. Later, Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:00:01 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michael McCann Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael McCann Subject: TRGPro flash cards, Web site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Have you found out whether the TRGPro and the 200lx use the same > card format? Hopefully they were smart enough to do that. I've > done a little business with TRG and I've been pretty impressed with > them so far. I thought about buying a TRGPro instead of the 3c but > the brightness convinced me to get the 3c. > > I've also heard that the TRGPro backlight is better than the 3x > backlight. How much I don't know. > Apparently, the flash card for the TRGPro is standard. Their web site says it will accept ScanDisk cards. Here's the link: http://www.trgpro.com/product/trgpro.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:32:18 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Cat-Distracted Technical Folks, Anonymous Subject: Re: Small BBS package MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit F. Kaufman wrote: > > <<<<< and for those who never heard of it, the size of the whole bbs > > package > > for a fully running 16line/node bbs system takes up under 1meg of > > disk > > space isnt ASM coded programs great!!>>>>> > > > Back in the says when hard drives were expensive there were a lot of > > bbs systems that came on a 360k floppy and left enough room for > > Minihost which was either free or shareware or both??? Was pretty tiny. My Co-Op Citadel (GremCit / DragCit clone) could run on a twin-720k-FDD XT laptop, one for software and lots of spare space, 720k message base on the other drive - though FDD failures made this ANNOYING. Easy on a 1Mb 200LX, really, with a small messagebase - I wouldn't dedicate my main machine to it; maybe I should throw that on a machine that's coming soon (8Mb unit.) Hmmm... Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:53:17 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Cat-Distracted Technical Folks, Anonymous Subject: Re: BBS Software 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One line hard-wired, use a PCMCIA serial card for the 2nd line. Not a problem (We used to use Windows 3.1 to run two+ Citadel's on one machine - for a while I had 2 Cits' going on my old 486DX50 development box, top of the line for it's time - That was a good stable machine, still is though in a smaller case today ) Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:59:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Cat-Distracted Technical Folks, Anonymous Subject: Re: External speaker jack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > Ed Padin wrote: > > Here'what I was thinking: > > > > - Pick up email from voice provider using pop client from some server > > - Convert from wav to {some compressed format good for palmtop} > > - mail to another email account. > > Agree, not that terribly complex. Still very time consuming, > and it also means I cannot spend time In switzerland and pick > up my messages on the palmtop without keeping someone back > home monitoring all these conversions. > > Nice idea, though! He's talking an automated "batch file"-like system, methinks. Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:02:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Cat-Distracted Technical Folks, Anonymous Subject: Re: Flash and Smart Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter W. Borders wrote: > On 20 Jun 2000, at 14:45, Mark Willis wrote: > > I've taken to putting PCMCIA ports on many machines here, as I get to it > > - now THAT's a good common port. Need more conventional RAM? Don't > > load the drivers. Does eat an ISA slot usually. Works > > > > Mark > > One point to keep in mind, don't upgrade to Windows 2K in the near future. While it claims pcmcia support and has drivers > for the SCM swapbox they don't work with my genuine SCM swapbox. Work perfectly under Windows 98SE so its not the > hardware. The pcmcia support seems to be an afterthought, M$ probably figured the only people that need it are laptop > users and the laptop company can make the needed drivers. > > Pete I'll upgrade to Linux; Win2k wasn't in my plans; Much of what I do'll stay Dos if Linux won't do it all. Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:20:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeff wrote: > D&A makes LX/IRC, but it seems to basically be a port of > ircII, but lacks some features of ircII. Jeff has no knowledge whatsoever about the source code origin of IRC/LX. IRC/LX is NOT a port from any other program. Any similarities are coincidental. The command set of IRC/LX is similar to IRCLL, but no code whatsoever was ported. (andreas, the author of IRC/LX adds that he has never seen the source code for ircll.) Avi Meshar D&A Software http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:34:23 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Consumer reports battery check Comments: To: Longden Loo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 26 Jun 2000, Longden Loo wrote: > One has to take CR with a grain of reality. Their recommendations are > hardly expert in many cases, and represents (to me at least) the opinion > of a group with limited resources and (supposedly) no agenda. I agree with you re CR. I work in a University-based organization that conducts CR-like testing in a specific product area. (In fact, CR used our data about a year or so ago.) The problems we and CR both face are small sample size and the fact that we can only test under a limited set of conditions, while consumers use the products under a much greater variety of conditions. This means our results and CR's will not, and can not, apply to all users. Where I get frustrated with CR is when they move from fact to opinion. When they tell me that some model car has a "quirky" layout of its controls, that is only their opinion, not a "fact". Beauty is in the eye of the beholder . Their evaluation of computer systems is especially frustrating. There are so many variables and personal preferences to consider, how can anyone say what is the "best" computer for the majority of people? Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:53:52 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Consumer reports battery check In-Reply-To: <200006282234.SAA04201@sphmraaa.compuserve.com> from "Victor Roberts" at Jun 28, 2000 06:34:23 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > There > are so many variables and personal preferences to consider, how > can anyone say what is the "best" computer for the majority of > people? Bill Gates can, and does. 8-) -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:05:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Consumer reports battery check Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I agree here too. Several years back, their car issue discounted tinted glass as frivolous and a visual impediment .... an opinion that may be true for the area where they're located, but which would raise the ire of people in the hot Southwestern states. I rarely look at their computer reviews ... as with all their articles, they're rarely of much value to a person already "in the know" for the topic, especially when they start reaching for the subjective areas (recommendations). - Longden Victor Roberts on 06/28/2000 03:34:23 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Consumer reports battery check Where I get frustrated with CR is when they move from fact to opinion. When they tell me that some model car has a "quirky" layout of its controls, that is only their opinion, not a "fact". Beauty is in the eye of the beholder . Their evaluation of computer systems is especially frustrating. There are so many variables and personal preferences to consider, how can anyone say what is the "best" computer for the majority of people? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:32:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? In-Reply-To: <200006282220.SAA12555@spdmraab.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, A Meshar wrote: > Jeff has no knowledge whatsoever about the source code origin > of IRC/LX. Thank goodness :-) > IRC/LX is NOT a port from any other program. Any similarities > are coincidental. The command set of IRC/LX is similar to > IRCLL, but no code whatsoever was ported. First of all, I said it *seemed* like a port, so chill out. It may not be a port, but it looks and acts like ircII.I wasn't blasting your software merely pointing-out the fact that it looks just like ircII. > (andreas, the author of IRC/LX adds that he has never seen the > source code for ircll.) Good for him. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:05:13 +0100 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Transmeta Crusoe chip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Folks, I haven't seen any comment from you wizards about this chip which is about to revolutionise the notebook market. It looks like the answer to power-drain and weight problems in laptops which are to be the first to use them. PDA's and desktops will no doubt follow. Highlights:- A 700mhz Transmeta Crusoe can run programs as fast as a 500mhz pentium lll. They are smaller and have fewer transistors and costs up to 50% less; the high-end TM5400 costs $120 - $300 depending on configuration. The simpler TM3200 costing $65 - $90 is for information appliances. Power consumption can be as little as 5% of the power of the Pentium. They use VLIW 128 bit instruction words which runs Intel 32 bit instructions faster than the original code. Chips can be rapidly upgraded. Investors:- Sony, Gateway, Compaq, AOL, Big Blue manufactures the chips and is expected to be one of the first to market this year with a laptop/notebook. It is said to be hardware with a software component which could emulate anything from Windows to Sony Playstation to Linux on one computer. Sources: Business Week, May 29; The Economist, January 29 (BW is at www.businessweek.com/technology/) Looks like there may be a replacement for the LX which could emulate all our software in the not far distant future. Not to mention the solution to power problems for all of our camera buffs. CHEERS Richard. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:58:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Jeff wrote: > First of all, I said it *seemed* like a port, so chill out. It may not be > a port, but it looks and acts like ircII.I wasn't blasting your software > merely pointing-out the fact that it looks just like ircII. Hello list! I went and reread my original post on this subject and for the life of me can't understand why I can't say that IRC/LX *seems* to be a port of ircII. There are many ports of ircII in all different flavors and they are all nifty clients. The more I think about getting nasty emails from the D&A beta team the more pissed I get. I can't help but wonder if Bill Gates sits around and fires off nasty emails to people that say they don't like Windoze?!?! I know that all the members of the D&A beta team aren't jerks, but the one or two of you that felt the need to flame me really need to get a life. If you want to carry on the conversation further (the two that sent me the nice notes), please email me so I can provide a phone number or tell me where you want to meet and we'll just settle this whole matter if a more manly fashion where we discuss the similarities of software face to face instead of hiding between computer screens. This entire matter baffles me..... I don't give a flying flip if Andreas ported, copied, used ircII for ideas, it just doesn't matter. I merely stated that it *seemed* to be a port. I did NOT say it *was* a port. Have a nice day! Jeff ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:31:22 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Colin Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Re: Keyboard vs stylus In-Reply-To: <20000628.145628.-170639.4.ddvteach@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have not tried this yet. There is a small program for converting phone book files from the LX to Palm. It's more of a one shot deal. I would tell you the name but it's on my work station's HD with PIII processor that died Monday. Try a search for it at http://www.palmgear.com/ The TRG fills a different role than the LX in my life. For my personal needs, I see little need for sharing much more than contact info. BTW, I picked up a GoType keyboard for the TRG today. Very cool! Colin, have you tried swapping text files between your TrgPro and your HPLX via CF? How did it go? Can your Palm easily absorb such files? Much obligated. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:31:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: For Sale: Newton Keyboards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Folks, I have available for immediate sale a VERY limited number of Aplle Newton Keyboards. These are brand new in the original box, except that I opened the box to check the contents. These keyboards have to be modified to add the palmtop cable. I am adding an unterminated cable - plug that fits the serial port on the Palmtop on one side, nothing at the other side of thecable. You will have to do the work with the cable. The price for this rarity: $120 per keyboard, including the cable, or best offer. Shipping and insurance to be paid by buyer. I'd like to ship these on Monday morning July 10. So what will work in terms of payments: Credit cards, Money Orders. Please don't ship money without emailing to me first to reserve one for you since quantities are very limited. Thank you. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:31:06 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeff wrote: > But it seems to be a very close clone without the dcc features. For just > general chatting it would be fine if you didn't need support of some of the > other features of most IRC clients. How do you judge this? Maybe the command set is similar, but is this evidence enough to make the statement it is a clone? C'mon, you have better sense than that. > I do wonder why there isn't a true port of ircII to DOS, especially since > the source code is available. Because it is difficult to do. It is easier and faster to roll-your-own. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:31:11 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: For Sale: EXP Modems + 4MB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Folks, I have available for immediate sale a VERY limited number of EXP 14.4kbps modems with 4MB onboard. These modems draw very limited power WHILE working. (I have used my own two on batteries alone for an email run, but I would not recommend this for a long run - they still can suck dry a pair of batteries pretty quickly.) Each PCMCIA modem card has 4MB storage built in, and the EXCELLENT Fax software Minifax. These modems enjoy the lifetime warranty of The factory. The modems I have are BRAND NEW, in the original box. I will accept the BEST OFFER on these modems. I'd like to ship them on Monday morning July 10. So what will work in terms of payments: Credit cards, Money Orders. Please don't send money orders without emailing to me first to reserve one for you, since quantities are very limited. Shipping and insurance to be paid by buyer. Thank you. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:35:24 +0800 Reply-To: JIMMY TAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JIMMY TAN Comments: To: j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi John, Nice to know there's still interest in machines like the TS1000/ZX81. I had a ZX Spectrum once and like you, found an emulator that runs on the HP200LX. I think Sir Clive Sinclair will flip if you went back into time and showed him (what looks like) a ZX81 running on your palm! Best regards. Jimmy. ____________________Forward Header_____________________ From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Fluff: A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer) emulator Date: Monday, June 26, 2000 13:36 Hi All, A while back many mentioned that their first computer was the Timex Sinclair TS1000. (Affectionately known as the "Little Black Wedge") Well, I found a great emulator this weekend that I've had a lot of fun with. It gave me another taste of that famous machine on my PC! It actually allows programming in the TS1000's proprietary version of BASIC and even allows basic programs, along with their data, (remember that?!) to be stored on your PC's hard drive with the simple command: save "progname" I'm thinking about transferring it to my HP200LX and writing a little program with this emulator, just to see how well it works and how fast it runs on the HP200LX. It looks like it would work great on a HP200LX. :-) If you'd like to check it out and bring those warm memories to the present, you'll be able to find it as XTNDR093.ZIP at the Simtel web site under "Emulators" in the MS DOS section. Have fun! :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:36:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? In-Reply-To: <200006290131.VAA18434@spdmraab.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, A Meshar wrote: > How do you judge this? Maybe the command set is similar, but > is this evidence enough to make the statement it is a clone? > C'mon, you have better sense than that. How do I judge this?!?! Heck, look at a ircII screen then look at LX/IRC. I am not the brightest guy in the world, but they look pretty darn similar to me. Yup, I have sense-o-plenty. Avi, have you ever even used ircII or looked at an ircII screen? I know Andreas has. > Because it is difficult to do. It is easier and faster to > roll-your-own. I am not a programmer so I'll take your word for it. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:55:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Comments: To: JIMMY TAN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Jimmy, Any chance you could let us know what emulator you are using and where to find it? Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: JIMMY TAN To: Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 6:35 PM > Hi John, > > Nice to know there's still interest in machines like the TS1000/ZX81. I had a ZX > Spectrum once and like you, found an emulator that runs on the HP200LX. I think > Sir Clive Sinclair will flip if you went back into time and showed him (what > looks like) a ZX81 running on your palm! > > Best regards. > > Jimmy. > ____________________Forward Header_____________________ > From: John J Vanderstel > Subject: Fluff: A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer) emulator > Date: Monday, June 26, 2000 13:36 > > Hi All, > > A while back many mentioned that their first computer was the Timex > Sinclair TS1000. (Affectionately known as the "Little Black Wedge") > > Well, I found a great emulator this weekend that I've had a lot of fun > with. It gave me another taste of that famous machine on my PC! It > actually allows programming in the TS1000's proprietary version of BASIC > and even allows basic programs, along with their data, (remember that?!) > to be stored on your PC's hard drive with the simple command: save > "progname" > > I'm thinking about transferring it to my HP200LX and writing a little > program with this emulator, just to see how well it works and how fast it > runs on the HP200LX. It looks like it would work great on a HP200LX. :-) > > If you'd like to check it out and bring those warm memories to the > present, you'll be able to find it as XTNDR093.ZIP at the Simtel web site > under "Emulators" in the MS DOS section. > > Have fun! :-) > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:34:03 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Wagstaff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Wagstaff Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 28 Jun 2000 16:56:52 -0700, Jeff wrote: > I know that all the members of the D&A beta team aren't jerks, but the one > or two of you that felt the need to flame me really need to get a life. If > you want to carry on the conversation further (the two that sent me the > nice notes), please email me so I can provide a phone number > or tell me where you want to meet and we'll just settle this whole matter > if a more manly fashion where we discuss the similarities of software face > to face instead of hiding between computer screens. Love it! Who needs TV when you've got this? :-) > This entire matter baffles me..... I don't give a flying flip if Andreas > ported, copied, used ircII for ideas, it just doesn't matter. I merely > stated that it *seemed* to be a port. I did NOT say it *was* a port. You mean it's a port??? ;-) I have to say that the hplx list has (all too rarely, unfortunately) a great capacity for entertainment, as well as a fantastic ability to put things into perspective. Who cares about world poverty, war, famine, etc. when there are far more important things to have an argument about? -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:48:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: stock-tracker Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Not sure this will do the trick, but please look at StockChart, which we sell. http://www.dasoft.com , then click on the Products link, and scroll to StockChart. It requires WWW/LX. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com Ken London wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a program for the 200LX that will track purchase and > > sales of stocks with calculation of capital gains (ie first in, first > > out)? Can the built-in Quicken do this? > > Quicken won't...I just use a Lotus 123 spreadsheet. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:39:08 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? Jeff writes: > Hello list! I went and reread my original post on this subject and for the > life of me can't understand why I can't say that IRC/LX *seems* to be a > port of ircII. Of course you can say it. And of course Avi can object. My recollection is that you two covered this issue some time back and Avi was careful to make it clear that the D&A product was not a port, but built from scratch. You may have forgotten that point, but it almost sounds like you are still trying to pick at the issue by describing the program in those terms. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:57:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Mike Wagstaff wrote: > Love it! Who needs TV when you've got this? :-) And I'm even more entertaining in real life . Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:54:06 +0800 Reply-To: JIMMY TAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JIMMY TAN Subject: A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer) emulator Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Phillipe, I'm using an emulator called Sinclair ZX Spectrum Emulator 'Z80' v3.05 - 11/11/96 - by G.A. Lunter. Can't remember the original website though, but it should still be out there somewhere. If you want, I'll send you what I have. The zipped file package is about 245KB. Best regards. Jimmy. ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Author: Fryday Date: 2000/06/29 9:55 AM Hey Jimmy, Any chance you could let us know what emulator you are using and where to find it? Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:10:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? In-Reply-To: <200005282139.PNR00874@netins.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Theodore Heise wrote: > Of course you can say it. And of course Avi can object. My recollection > is that you two covered this issue some time back and Avi was careful to > make it clear that the D&A product was not a port, but built from scratch. > You may have forgotten that point, but it almost sounds like you are still > trying to pick at the issue by describing the program in those terms. Ain't America grand? No one was trying to pick on his or Andreas' software. I was merely trying to describe the what and how of how the program functioned on the LX. Most die-hard IRCers are extremely familiar with ircII. God forbid anyone disagrees or is critical with D&A 'cause you'll catch Hell for it. I'm still waiting for the process server to come knocking at my door with the papers for the civil suit because I had an opinion which was not mainstream and was not in agreement with D&A. It may be written from scratch but it looks and, for the most part, looks like ircII. That was the entire point of my original post and for this I was flamed. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:15:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Jeff wrote: > be written from scratch but it looks and, for the most part, looks like This was supposed to say looks and acts like ircII but I made an error. I apologize for my incorrect syntax. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 03:56:13 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > problem at all... I cannot speak for all, and especially not > for Fred - I will allow you to "walk" for me!!!! (gd&limp) (aside: I broke my foot on a hike two months ago and Avi is aware of this) > But as for Fred, he is a tough one - really ornery now since > he broke his foot (maybe someone else broke it? ...) He may > want your pound of flesh! ... Or maybe not, he may have > enough. Ah, see, what happens when I start replying before reading the entire message! (G) (hmm, did one of those I was hiking with really trip me - that may explain why they ran off and left me! (G)) > (Oh, Master Fred, forgive me this excursion in to humorous > commentary! ) NEVER! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:28:02 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: CF vs Springboard Comments: To: barry@FBTC.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:20:25 -0500 Barry writes: > My impression has been not that Palm is moving toward WinCE but that > they're offering more options. They're selling a lot of 3x's and a > lot of Palm V's. I don't know about the 3c. I think they're just > trying to make something available for everyone. I was also thinking of the announcement that Palm will produce devices with more powerful processors made by other companies (I forget the name). More power would mean less battery duration, a la Wince. And yes, they are selling a lot. I hope that will mean better devices with better battery life in the future. I am just concerned that it might not be the case. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:41:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens Comments: To: barry@fbtc.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:15:22 -0500 "Barry" writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 1:04 PM > Subject: Re: Palm and Visor and TRGPro screens > > Have you found out whether the TRGPro and the 200lx use the same > card format? Hopefully they were smart enough to do that. I've They specifically said they use FAT16. The article I read mention the DOS file format, with the presence of the "." and " . ." in each directory. So, yes it is compatible. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:22:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: Re: Keyboard vs stylus Comments: To: burkec@GOLDSTATE.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:31:22 -0700 Colin Thompson writes: > The TRG fills a different role than the LX in my life. For my > personal needs, I see little need for sharing much more than contact info. Interesting. May I ask you why did you pay $80 more for a Palm device if you did not need it for much more than contact information? Just curious For myself, I was mostly thinking of electronic text reading in dim light. I understand that plain text is not a standard Palm file format. > BTW, I picked up a GoType keyboard for the TRG today. Very cool! I am waiting for the invention of the folding GoType keyboard before I bite (GoType is too big to carry around for me, and Stowaway is too big for small tables, and will not sit on your lap). Maybe a modified DaVinci keyboard , , , ) Thanks again. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:24:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? >> Love it! Who needs TV when you've got this? :-) Message-Id: <20000629052424.ERUZ1264.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.154.174¨> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:24:28 +0000 >And I'm even more entertaining in real life . >Jeff Especially when the snapping turtles are biting . IRC? Hey Sheriff (sir), methinks you have way too much time on your hands. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:27:09 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Colin Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Re: Keyboard vs stylus, getting fluffy In-Reply-To: <20000629.012822.-818259.1.ddvteach@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:31:22 -0700 Colin Thompson writes: > The TRG fills a different role than the LX in my life. For my > personal needs, I see little need for sharing much more than contact info. Interesting. May I ask you why did you pay $80 more for a Palm device if you did not need it for much more than contact information? Just curious The TRG has contact info, scheduling, pricing spread sheets, a couple of e-texts including the KJV, maps for GPS, a RPN calculator, email and about 1.5 megs of Avantgo Web pages. 8 megs barely cuts it. Plus you can backup and restore in a flash. $80 is cheap for the extra options when you consider you can also use a CF modem. Also the OS is upgradeable in flash on the TRG, not so on the cheaper Palm units. The LX is harder to synchronize with my workstation or laptop and is a pain to use with GPS. I prefer it as a stand alone tiny PC to run real programs, especially the full blown DOS version of PC Study Bible. It's a real gas to use in a religious discussion/confrontation! For myself, I was mostly thinking of electronic text reading in dim light. I understand that plain text is not a standard Palm file format. > BTW, I picked up a GoType keyboard for the TRG today. Very cool! I am waiting for the invention of the folding GoType keyboard before I bite (GoType is too big to carry around for me, and Stowaway is too big for small tables, and will not sit on your lap). Maybe a modified DaVinci keyboard , , , ) The folding keyboards must be used on a solid flat surface, not so for the GoType. You can use it on your lap. I doubt that I will use it much but I hate to limit my options. I have had both my workstation and laptop fail at the same time. In this case, the keyboard and the HPLX could be life savers. Colin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:07:11 +0000 Reply-To: melancon@microgear.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Melancon Subject: OT: FTP site for DataPerfect 2.6e is working again. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I got a message on the DP mailing list that the site is back up. So if you have been looking to download the latest version of DP go get it at: http://www.mailinglist.nu/dataperfect/dp26e.php3 Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:26:11 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Avantgo... Hi all, Reading a little about folks opinions on the Palm/TRG and seeing references to Avantgo again... Why not program an Avantgo client for the LX? Maybe Dasoft could add it to the www/lx suite or someone else as a standalone to work with a tcp/ip stack. I had a look at an avantgo file from mapquest (?) and it seems to be just plain text requesting this and that file etc. This would constitute part of a offline browsing package. Any reason apart from time or interest why not? br Franklin (at most simple macro programmer...) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:50:43 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ahzilly@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:47:25 +0100 (BST) 12h13m24s ago ... On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:34:01 -0700 (CST), Jeff wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:24:01 +0100, Tony Hutchins = wrote: > > > Jeff, FYI IRC/LX was not created by porting ircII source code to the > > palmtop. > > But it seems to be a very close clone without the dcc features. Jeff, IRC/LX supports dcc, Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:01:45 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Harvminimed@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harvey Cohn Subject: Re: For Sale: EXP Modems + 4MB Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to buy one of your 4mg storage and modem combination. How much should I send you. Thanks. Harv. 818 907-7092 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 04:18:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: Re: Simple IRC client for 200LX w/C source? Comments: To: Jeff In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:10 PM 6/28/00 -0500, you wrote: >ircII. That was the entire point of my original post and for this I was >flamed. >Jeff Huh? I managed to catch Avi's response there, but for the life of me didn't see the flame.. Maybe it's the weather.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:17:44 -0000 Reply-To: David@Cripps.Com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Cripps Subject: Subnet Mask Calculator Hi At the moment I'm studying for Cisco's CCNA and was wondering if anybody knows of a dos based Variable Length Sub-net mask calculator that runs on the HP? All the one's i've found are windoz based :-( Many thanks Dave Cripps ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 07:55:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Open Letter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To D&A Software: I am sorry that the platform for which you develop software is slowly dying. It's a great platform and I am quite sure that it was a profitable venture for you. Maybe that is why your comapny is so uptight about discussion of your products. I agree I originally said "port" and really should have said "clone". IRC/LX *seems* to be a "clone" of ircII not a port. There, is that better? Hell, Andreas told me that he never used ircII and had not until I found a bug with TELNET/LX when using ircII. I allowed Andreas to log onto one of my accounts to help fix the problem, which he did. Shortly there after, I was put on the 'asshole' list by the wonderful Andreas and D&A. D&A has had the monopoly for some time on certain plamtop software. Not through any fault, but because they were the only ones who really actively developed software for the platform, that's a shame as I am sure there were many other great software developers that could have given us options. Steve Lawson gave us another commercial option for email and heros such as Rod Whitby gave us free software that worked as well as the commercial stuff. To date, I have received to flames (not responses Andreas) from D&A beta members and a lovely letter from you to which I responded privately, I would be happy to post it here publically should anyone desire to see it. Andreas, Avi, and D&A folks, I was taught by Andreas how to filter assholes, so my filters are active. This will probably be last post here on HPLX-L. It used to be a fun list, now it's just a "let's praise D&A" list. I, for one, will not bow down to D&A. Peace to all! Jeff ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:51:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Tracking stocks and capital gains MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>Can anyone recommend a program for the 200LX that will track purchase and sales of stocks with calculation of capital gains (ie first in, first out)? Can the built-in Quicken do this?<<<< This would be an ideal application for Lotus 123. It would need a fairly clever spreadsheet but nothing too difficult for someone familiar with Lotus. Because of the FIFO consideration I'm sure some fairly sophisticated macros would be needed. I worked for a financial company (mutual funds) and I used to do things like this (never exactly this) from time to time for our marketing department to give their customers (in the same way they might give coffee mugs). I'm not interested in doing anything like this now. In any case I always needed help with the math since I never understood finance very well (I was a systems programmer). But if someone decides to do something like this I'll be happy to help with ideas on how to make things work and maybe a macro or two. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:56:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Subnet Mask Calculator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have been dying to find one! Please, please, please let me know if you succeed. I've toyed with the idea of writing one but just don't have the time. If I had some source code to work with I might be able to do it. I don't want to reinvent the wheel when it comes to the algorithms involved... and besides, my programming skillz are pitiful. >-----Original Message----- >From: David Cripps Ýmailto:d-cripps@DIRCON.CO.UK¨ >Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:18 AM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Subnet Mask Calculator > > >Hi > >At the moment I'm studying for Cisco's CCNA and was wondering >if anybody >knows of a dos based Variable Length Sub-net mask calculator >that runs on the >HP? > >All the one's i've found are windoz based :-( > >Many thanks > >Dave Cripps > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:02:43 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Avantgo... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I used AG on the Nino and thought it was great. The Windows CE machines still have one aspect that is still superior to the LX in that they sync up so much nicer. You plug the damn' thing in and it gets the avantgo stuff and syncs up to outlook with you having to press a key or click the mouse. I wish that Puma had not drooped support for the LX. They stood the best chance of providing a "Windows CE Services for the 200LX". >-----Original Message----- >From: Franklin Eekhout Ýmailto:franklin@ONLINE.NO¨ >Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:26 AM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Avantgo... > > >Hi all, > >Reading a little about folks opinions on the Palm/TRG and >seeing references >to Avantgo again... > >Why not program an Avantgo client for the LX? Maybe Dasoft >could add it to >the www/lx suite or someone else as a standalone to work with a tcp/ip >stack. I had a look at an avantgo file from mapquest (?) and >it seems to be >just plain text requesting this and that file etc. This would >constitute >part of a offline browsing package. > >Any reason apart from time or interest why not? > >br > >Franklin >(at most simple macro programmer...) > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:02:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Text on Palm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>Colin, have you tried swapping text files between your TrgPro and your HPLX via CF? How did it go? Can your Palm easily absorb such files?>>>> I don't think there is such a thing as text files on a Palm. Memopad pages are stored in a database and that's the only thing that even looks like text, although it isn't. I'm pretty sure some kind of conversion program would be needed. The database formats are available and I suspect writing that conversion program on the 200lx wouldn't be a major chore. The Memopad pages are limited to 4k but the Doc format isn't limited. You need a doc reader on the Palm to read it but there are good freeware ones. Also the doc format isn't totally standard. Each doc reader/writer has a few of it's own tricks. They can usually read each others files but not perfectly. Has anyone looked into transfer between the Palm and the 200lx via infrared? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:06:25 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer) emulat or MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There's a version of this emulator for Windows CE. It was a kick to play Elite on a little plam device. It was one of my favorite games on the Commodore 64. I must have spent 300 man-hours playing it. By the time I had "the most powerful ship in the galaxy" I became bored with the game. >-----Original Message----- >From: JIMMY TAN Ýmailto:jimmytan@YEOS.COM.MY¨ >Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 10:54 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 >computer) emulator > > >Hi Phillipe, > >I'm using an emulator called Sinclair ZX Spectrum Emulator >'Z80' v3.05 - >11/11/96 - by G.A. Lunter. > >Can't remember the original website though, but it should >still be out there >somewhere. If you want, I'll send you what I have. The zipped >file package is >about 245KB. > > >Best regards. > >Jimmy. > >____________________Reply Separator____________________ >Subject: Re: >Author: Fryday >Date: 2000/06/29 9:55 AM > >Hey Jimmy, > >Any chance you could let us know what emulator you are using >and where to find >it? > >Thanks, > >Philippe > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:11:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Tracking stocks and capital gains MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" There was once a program called "professional portfolio" that was simple but did all this very nicely. It kept track of your tax basis and tax lots. It was able to determine your long/short capital gains by tracking which lots of stock you sold. It handled splits and selling of partial lots of stock and all that good stuff. It was only good at handling one portfolio at a time, not good for partnership investments. >-----Original Message----- >From: Barry Ýmailto:barry@FBTC.NET¨ >Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:52 AM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Tracking stocks and capital gains > > >>>>>Can anyone recommend a program for the 200LX that will track >purchase and >sales of stocks with calculation of capital gains (ie first in, >first >out)? Can the built-in Quicken do this?<<<< > >This would be an ideal application for Lotus 123. It would need a >fairly clever spreadsheet but nothing too difficult for someone >familiar with Lotus. > >Because of the FIFO consideration I'm sure some fairly sophisticated >macros would be needed. > >I worked for a financial company (mutual funds) and I used to do >things like this (never exactly this) from time to time for our >marketing department to give their customers (in the same way they >might give coffee mugs). > >I'm not interested in doing anything like this now. In any case I >always needed help with the math since I never understood finance >very well (I was a systems programmer). But if someone decides to >do something like this I'll be happy to help with ideas on how to >make things work and maybe a macro or two. > >Barry > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:10:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: TRGPro format MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>Apparently, the flash card for the TRGPro is standard. Their web site says it will accept ScanDisk cards. Here's the link:<<<< I wasn't questioning whether the card was standard. Compact flash is a standard. But the card can be formatted in a variety of ways. If they used a different format you'd have to reformat the card, losing the contents, to move from one to another. Someone said they do use the Dos 16 bit fat format which is what the 200lx uses. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:26:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavalier Leonard W CRBE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cavalier Leonard W CRBE Subject: Re: Microwaving metal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Warning --- I'm in a real OT mood today... My microwave oven owner's manual actually suggested placing small sheets of foil over the wing tips and breast top when cooking a whole chicken, so these parts don't get overdone! I have never done this myself, as I don't like cooking meat in a microwave oven (makes it tough and dry-ish, unless the meat is submerged in a sauce where the liquid really does the bulk of heat transfer to the meat). the priciple, as best I understand it, boils down to this: you shouldn't have a metal *gap* or *loop* in a microwave oven. Flat sheets of metal, or even a metal bowl, should not cause any trouble themselves. they will reflect the microwaves away and thus shield the material covered from heating by direct microwave energy, but this can be a desired effect, such as in the chicken example. A metal gap, however, is spark city. The alternating electric fields of the microwaves induce A/C electric current in the metal, but in a flat sheet or any other configuration where the ends are separated by a good" space, the current quickly reaches equilibrium and stops, much like the charging of a capacitor. Where there is a close gap, the induced current tries and succeeds in flowing by jumping across the gap as sparks. With a loop, the current could flow continuously and rapidly create heat! Both of these conditions could overload the magnetron, the microwave generator (love that name!) and lead to overheating and damage, as the magnetron expects to see a certain impedance in the oven to limit the energy flow, but the metal gap or loop essentially creates a short-circuit. And of course the sparks, or overheated metal loop, could damage things or ignite flammable stuff. About the worst case I can think of is heating leftover Chinese food in one of those typical folded carboard containers with the wire handle. Here you have both a loop and a gap creating heata and sparks in contact with a paper product. About 15 seconds to ignition! Be careful - a flat sheet of foil close to the metal oven wall is a gap! - Leonard W. Cavalier cavalierlw@nswccd.navy.mil -----Original Message----- From: Victor Roberts Ýmailto:victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM¨ Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 11:34 PM Subject: Re: Microwaving metal On 17 Jun 2000, Mark Willis wrote: > For giggles: http://www.cornwell.demon.co.uk/micro1.htm - "Melting > metal in a domestic microwave". How to use a spare microwave (slightly > modified) as a smelting tool for up to 250g of bronze, silver, white > metal, or iron... (They use a carbon heat absorber, sorta like that > Burrito was after the fire!? Then some magnetite sand stucco, > semi-involved, interesting to know it can be done!) With all this talk about the bad effects of placing metal In your microwave ovens, I think everyone should know that you already have metal in every microwave oven. The walls of the oven cavity are metal, as they must be to establish the resonant cavity. Vic Roberts - Leonard W. Cavalier cavalierlw@nswccd.navy.mil ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:33:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 27 Jun 2000 to 28 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-231) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>It is said to be hardware with a software component which could emulate anything from Windows to Sony Playstation to Linux on one computer.<<< I normally won't get the first of anything but I'll wait a little longer on this. The software component is in flash so it can be upgraded if there are problems, but I want to wait till they have a chance to correct any hardware problems. That said, I suspect this is going to be a pretty big thing pretty soon. Gateway, Dell and IBM have already announced that they'll be using them in near future releases. Gateway says they plan to use them eventually in all their computers. I wonder how Intel will compete with this? I've also just done some reasing on Intel's IA64 cpu's, coming available shortly. They have an IA32 hardware emulation that can run existing software but at much slower speeds than a Pentium. In 64 bit mode it's a totally different RISC like cpu, although they say it's not quite a RISC chip. It does have 128 general purpose 64 bit registers and 128 floating point 64 bit registers, among other registers. The instruction set is very unlike the IA32 instruction set. They say it'll be a few years before they'll be selling this to end users, since there won't be any software for it at first. There is a Win2000 version for it and a Linux version already. I guess this means in a few years we're leaving our history behind and starting over. In a lot of ways that's a good thing, but a sad thing. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:43:18 +0700 Reply-To: "Iqbal R. Wilis - Priv" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Iqbal R. Wilis - Priv" Organization: PT. Karya Purna Wiratama Subject: How to unsubscribe temporarily ? Comments: To: Cavalier Leonard W CRBE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for being ignorant. Pls advise me on how to unsubscribe for some period of time due to my overseas trip Thanks, iqbal ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:03:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 27 Jun 2000 to 28 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-231) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>I know that all the members of the D&A beta team aren't jerks, but the one or two of you that felt the need to flame me really need to get a life. If you want to carry on the conversation further (the two that sent me the nice notes), please email me so I can provide a phone number or tell me where you want to meet and we'll just settle this whole matter if a more manly fashion where we discuss the similarities of software face to face instead of hiding between computer screens.<<<<< I'd like to suggest to all of you: the ones that made the other guys angry, and that's all of you in that discussion, and the ones that got angry, and that's all of you in this discussion, that this isn't appropriate behavior for this listserve. This demeans us all. It's also the sort of thing that threatens the list. I think a number of us would lose interest quickly if much of this kind of thing went on. In addition, this disclaimer on D&A software's owners messages claiming that in case they're nasty they're being nasty in their own names and not their company's name, is a cop-out. I'd like to see you change that to say that since you really do spend a lot of your time on this list promoting and supporting your products (for which I'm sure everyone is grateful) that if you get nasty we should realize that it reflects on D&A software. Maybe that'll give you a little more incentive to stay cool. I've been communicating with most of you guys on HPHAND for, how long? Ten years? More? Maybe a little less but not much less. For the most part it was a friendly, helpful group that really didn't have to work very hard to get along. We're the same people now. Why don't we act as grown-up now! Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:13:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Timex emulators MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>Any chance you could let us know what emulator you are using and where to find it?<<<< I've used this one on the 200lx. It's pretty good. http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/emulate/ts1000-c.zip I think this is the one that was mentioned. I'm not sure if I've seen it run. http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/emulate/xtndr093.zip Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:18:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Text on Palm In-Reply-To: <002101bfe1e3$6ce2ec60$a3fd36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Barry wrote: > Has anyone looked into transfer between the Palm and the 200lx via > infrared? > As someone else (Larry Zimmerman IIRC) mentioned, there are solutions to dump information to the LX. This involved a commercial Palm program "printing" to the LX either running a comm program and doing a capture, or using IR.EXE in printer mode. I'm interested in two way communication because I use both. I haven't come up with a solution, but I've had some tantalizing results. Using a freeware Palm program called IRPad, a little notepad, I can "print" to IR.EXE (running in printer mode). Nothing great here, except it's free instead of $40 (US) for the commercial program. However, I found that if I put IR.EXE in IRDA client mode, and hit connect on IRPAD, then what I wrote on the Palm would appear on the LX screen, AND, if I typed on the LX, it would appear on the Palm screen. Now this isn't very useful, even as an external kybd for the palm, because IR.exe doesn't faithfully echo back what you type (no backspace, or return), but it shows that two way communication is possible. Of course, I've also tried beaming to the LX with IR in various modes, including OBEX, and using debug mode I can see it receives a bunch of packets, but then the connection closes, and nothing is saved. I don't really understand what the different modes of IR.exe are for though. Now the good news is that IRPAD is freeware, and the source code is included. Of course the bad news is that the same is not true for IR.EXE. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:08:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: How to unsubscribe temporarily ? Comments: To: "Iqbal R. Wilis - Priv" In-Reply-To: "Iqbal R. Wilis - Priv"'s message of "Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:43:18 +0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Iqbal R. Wilis - Priv" wrote: > Pls advise me on how to unsubscribe for some period of time due to my > overseas trip This appears at the bottom of every message sent to the list: > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Supposing you could webulate, you could visit that URL and find the following information: HPLX-L Subscription Requests Here: Please send commands to LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU to SUBSCRIBE send the command SUB HPLX-L firstname lastname to UNSUBSCRIBE send the command SIGNOFF HPLX-L Don't forget the SUBSCRIBE bit: you will want to use that on your return! -Frank McConnell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:29:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer) emulator Hi Jimmy >I'm using an emulator called Sinclair ZX Spectrum Emulator 'Z80' v3.05 - >11/11/96 - by G.A. Lunter. > >Can't remember the original website though, but it should still be out there >somewhere. If you want, I'll send you what I have. The zipped file package is >about 245KB. I think saw a Spectrum emulator on the Simtel website in the DOS software repository under emulators, too. It might be the one you are using right now. Does the Spectrum emulator that you are using include a copy of the manual or a reference card in the archive to serve as a reminder of the required sintax and the capabilities of Spectrum BASIC? The TS1000 emulators I've seen include nothing like that. Oh, also, does Spectrum BASIC offer the MID$ function? I've also rediscovered that the TS1000 never did offer that. I'm almost positive that the TS Color computer (TS2086?) offered that function. Has anyone seen an emulator for that early computer? I'm having a little trouble remembering how to use the TS1000 INKEY$ function since it doesn't assign an empty string to a string variable if a key isn't pressed. It seems to assign a character with the code of 118, but trapping for that character doesn't work, either. Does anyone still have a manual for the ZX81 or TS1000 to check on that, or does anyone actually remember how that worked? With the above problems, I have no way to check multiple character inputs for input errors. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:25:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: How to unsubscribe temporarily ? In-Reply-To: <010a01bfe1e9$23c97ca0$50f992ca@IrFirmanMardanoes> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Iqbal R. Wilis - Priv wrote: > Pls advise me on how to unsubscribe for some period of time due to my > overseas trip Try sending e-mail to listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu with a single line in the body that says "set hplx-l nomail" (no quotes). Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:30:32 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Timex emulators MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Go here http://www.palmtop.nl/ for the free Sinclair Spectrum emulator for Windows CE. They have a bunch of games as well. Maybe the games will run on the DOS emulator? These guys also have the collins dictionaries for CE. I would love to see a true 200LX emulator for CE (ROM programs and BIOS). Then, if and when the power requirements and speed are up to snuff for CE units, you can migrate without losing anything. It would be even better to emulate it under Linux. It's probably easier to develop and, if developed as open source, would grow without needing a company behind it. I think there's already have a palm emulator for windows CE. >-----Original Message----- >From: Barry Ýmailto:barry@FBTC.NET¨ >Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 1:14 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Timex emulators > > >>>>Any chance you could let us know what emulator you are using and >where to find it?<<<< > >I've used this one on the 200lx. It's pretty good. >http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/emulate/ts1000-c.zip > >I think this is the one that was mentioned. I'm not sure if I've >seen it run. >http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/emulate/xtndr093.zip > >Barry > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:31:40 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: How to unsubscribe temporarily ? Comments: To: "Iqbal R. Wilis - Priv" In-Reply-To: <010a01bfe1e9$23c97ca0$50f992ca@IrFirmanMardanoes> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Iqbal R. Wilis - Priv wrote: > Sorry for being ignorant. Pls advise me on how to unsubscribe for some > period of time due to my overseas trip What you probably want to do is send a message to listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu with: SET HPLX-L NOMAIL in the body of the message. That will make it so you receive no mail, but you could still post if you want to and will not have to resubscribe when you return, which requires confirmation and other steps, but will allow you to just send another message that says: SET HPLX-L MAIL instead, to restore your "get messages from the list" status. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:33:27 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Cooling off Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I agree with Barry. Part of the problem is a mixture of glib writers and short-tempers .... a very nasty combination in the summer-time. Maybe we all just need to re-read our notes and think a bit about the message before we hit "SEND". Nobody expects everyone to be their best friend, but we should all expect a modicum of respect even from our enemies. - Longden Barry on 06/29/2000 10:03:00 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Barry To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 27 Jun 2000 to 28 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-231) I'd like to suggest to all of you: the ones that made the other guys angry, and that's all of you in that discussion, and the ones that got angry, and that's all of you in this discussion, that this isn't appropriate behavior for this listserve. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:34:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: Subnet Mask Calculator Comments: To: David@Cripps.Com In-Reply-To: David Cripps's message of "Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:17:44 -0000" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii David Cripps wrote: > At the moment I'm studying for Cisco's CCNA and was wondering if anybody > knows of a dos based Variable Length Sub-net mask calculator that runs on the > HP? Can someone explain what a "subnet mask calculator" is supposed to do? I.e. is it supposed to be able to take "24" (bits) and turn that into a network mask of "255.255.255.0" or "ffffff00", and/or vice-versa? Or what? -Frank McConnell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:05:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer) emulator Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, I might have a manual hidden somewhere under a pile of boxes. Not something you should hold your breath for, but if I get to it I'll definitely let you know :-) I don't remember a MID$ function. Can't remember what it was instead, though... INKEY$ was used to check if a key was pressed. If used i believe like this: "IF INKEY$ = "a" THEN PRINT "HELLO"", then you use a goto loop to trap the keys you're looking for. Okay, I'll let you know when I find the manuals... Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: John J Vanderstel To: Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 8:29 AM Subject: Re: A great ZX81 (Timex Sinclair TS1000 computer) emulator > Hi Jimmy > > >I'm using an emulator called Sinclair ZX Spectrum Emulator 'Z80' v3.05 > - > >11/11/96 - by G.A. Lunter. > > > >Can't remember the original website though, but it should still be out > there > >somewhere. If you want, I'll send you what I have. The zipped file > package is > >about 245KB. > > I think saw a Spectrum emulator on the Simtel website in the DOS software > repository under emulators, too. It might be the one you are using right > now. > > Does the Spectrum emulator that you are using include a copy of the > manual or a reference card in the archive to serve as a reminder of the > required sintax and the capabilities of Spectrum BASIC? The TS1000 > emulators I've seen include nothing like that. Oh, also, does Spectrum > BASIC offer the MID$ function? I've also rediscovered that the TS1000 > never did offer that. I'm almost positive that the TS Color computer > (TS2086?) offered that function. Has anyone seen an emulator for that > early computer? > > I'm having a little trouble remembering how to use the TS1000 INKEY$ > function since it doesn't assign an empty string to a string variable if > a key isn't pressed. It seems to assign a character with the code of > 118, but trapping for that character doesn't work, either. Does anyone > still have a manual for the ZX81 or TS1000 to check on that, or does > anyone actually remember how that worked? With the above problems, I > have no way to check multiple character inputs for input errors. > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:23:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Open Letter Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is not the first time there's been heat from D&A. I seem to recall a very low flashpoint on anything that was said about their software -- very much as if it became personal for them. Now, let's keep in perspective: D&A is small and their software is also their baby, so it's understandable that they would protect it more than, say, MS would protect their software from naysayers. On the other hand, even misinformed comments about a product can shed light on how people perceive this product, just like a comment on a piece of art can she light on how people feel about it. If the programmer or artist can't take comments -- good or bad -- in stride (and filter the irrelevant comment), it's really sad, as it drives potentially happy -- or better informed -- customers. Now yes, there are assholes that just keep pushing and others that just won't take the answers they are given, but heck, this is what marketing a product involves, get used to it. Perhaps, however, the pain of answering stupid questions or pushy customers is not worth it, in which case this may not be the best business to be in. Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff To: Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 5:55 AM Subject: Open Letter > To D&A Software: > > I am sorry that the platform for which you develop software is slowly > dying. It's a great platform and I am quite sure that it was a profitable > venture for you. > > Maybe that is why your comapny is so uptight about discussion of > your products. I agree I originally said "port" and really should have > said "clone". IRC/LX *seems* to be a "clone" of ircII not a port. There, > is that better? > > Hell, Andreas told me that he never used ircII and had not until I found a > bug with TELNET/LX when using ircII. I allowed Andreas to log onto one of > my accounts to help fix the problem, which he did. Shortly there after, I > was put on the 'asshole' list by the wonderful Andreas and D&A. > > D&A has had the monopoly for some time on certain plamtop software. Not > through any fault, but because they were the only ones who really actively > developed software for the platform, that's a shame as I am sure there > were many other great software developers that could have given us > options. Steve Lawson gave us another commercial option for email and > heros such as Rod Whitby gave us free software that worked as well as the > commercial stuff. > > To date, I have received to flames (not responses Andreas) from D&A beta > members and a lovely letter from you to which I responded privately, I > would be happy to post it here publically should anyone desire to see > it. Andreas, Avi, and D&A folks, I was taught by Andreas how to filter > assholes, so my filters are active. This will probably be last post here > on HPLX-L. It used to be a fun list, now it's just a "let's praise > D&A" list. I, for one, will not bow down to D&A. Peace to all! > > Jeff > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:31:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: XBRAM Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I will allow you to "walk" for me!!!! (gd&limp) (aside: I broke my foot > on a hike two months ago and Avi is aware of this) I am also aware that Fred is now back to walking and moderate biking, his passion. It seems your recovery was very speedy, and that's good. (BTW: Fred is a beta tester for D&A, and provides frequent updates on weather and hiking and biking adventures!) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:35:32 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Subnet Mask Calculator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That's part of it. It should also let you know how many hosts and networks you can fit on a given subnet. It's easy enough to figure it out with pen and paper for /24 and up but get's a little harder with, say a /18 or something. The algorithm has to take into account the fact that, most of the time, the highest and lowest addresses of each subnet can't be used because the lowest is your 'zero' address and the highest is your broadcast address. I think that Cisco routers allow you to use a zero subnet address for a node but it's not an RFC standard. I have a few documents that show how to calculate subnets. It could be the basis to provide an algorithm and maybe some psuedocode. here are some links: http://netfilter.kernelnotes.org/unreliable-guides/networking-concepts-HOWTO -4.html#ss4.1 http://www.tactix.com/subnet.html http://www.tmp-houston.com/tcpip.htm Here's the Cisco web subnet calulator: http://www.cisco.com/techtools/ip_addr.html an another one: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/sparkman/netcalc.htm >-----Original Message----- >From: Frank McConnell Ýmailto:fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG¨ >Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 1:34 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Subnet Mask Calculator > > >David Cripps wrote: >> At the moment I'm studying for Cisco's CCNA and was >wondering if anybody >> knows of a dos based Variable Length Sub-net mask calculator >that runs on the >> HP? > >Can someone explain what a "subnet mask calculator" is supposed to do? >I.e. is it supposed to be able to take "24" (bits) and turn that into >a network mask of "255.255.255.0" or "ffffff00", and/or vice-versa? >Or what? > >-Frank McConnell > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:38:50 -0500 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Organization: Times2 Tech Subject: Re: Palm Gadgets -to- HPLX? Comments: To: 71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200006271402.KAA23087@spdmraac.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > For the most part, I'm only seeking to use the self-powered > "Happy Hacking Cradle" (designed to link palms w/ PS/2 > Keyboards. I have already modified and written a driver for the Happy Hacking Cradle and it seems to work pretty well on the 200LX. There is a better solution out now for Windows CE machines that I also wrote a driver for and it lets you use a PS/2 keyboard with either the IR or serial port on the 200LX with the driver I wrote. They also have a small keyboard that you can buy as well. I forget who makes it and I am out of town at the moment. It also requires no modification to the device as I had to do to the Happy Hacking cradle. Thaddeus was/is considering selling them with my driver, but I don't know where that stands. Maybe Hal can answer that one. Cheers, Mack mailto:mack@times2tech.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:13:13 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brent Geske Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brent Geske Subject: Re: Printing. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Of course there's always the "fish." Sometimes it gets a little confused, but much of the meaning comes through. says: Hello! I use the InterLink of DOS, that ademas is very practical to copy archives of palmtop to the PC and viceversa. To your you order to clarify doubts. Greetings. Jorge >Since the topic of printing from the palmtop is of general >interest, maybe you guys can find it in your hearts to write >the tips in English? Unless, of course, it is a secret! :-) > > Avi > > >Rafael Humberto Padilla Velazquez wrote: >? Hola yo uso el OMNIPRN programa es fantastico! >? >? ?From: Jorge Peri ?jperi@MAIL.UNLU.EDU.AR? >? ?Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List ?HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu?, Jorge >? ?Peri ?jperi@MAIL.UNLU.EDU.AR? >? ?To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >? ?Subject: Re: Printing. >? ?Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:42:44 -0300 >? ? >? ?Hola! Yo uso el Interlink de DOS, que ademas es mucho mas practico para >? ?copiar archivos de la palmtop >? ?a la PC y viceversa. A tus ordenes para aclarar dudas. Saludos. Jorge >? ? >? ? >? ?----- Original Message ----- >? ?From: Suquet, Stephan ?ssuquet@APSF.COM.AR? >? ?To: ?HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu? >? ?Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 10:36 AM >? ?Subject: Printing. >? ? >? ? >? ?Hi all, >? ? >? ?Does anyone know if there4s a program allowing to print from the LX through >? ?a desktop machine ? >? ? >? ?If yes, where can it be downloaded. >? ? >? ? >? ?Thanks a lot and regards. >? ? >? ? >? ?Stiphane SUQUET LIZARRAGA >? ?PLANIFICACION ECONOMICO-FINANCIERA >? ?AGUAS PROVINCIALES DE SANTA FE S.A. >? ?Tel: 0341 420 6713 / Fax: 0341 420 6746 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:02:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Open Letter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Philippe: Thanks for the post. The facts are much simpler and are as follows: D&A welcomes any critique of its products. It never hurt the products, it always helps by providing another perspective. Jeff helped us with critiques for WWW/LX, and I believe even some of his comments on IRC/LX were helpful. Clearly, anyone is entitled to post what they wish to say. D&A is equally entitled to correct errors when they occur. We took that option. Jeff posted that we seemd to have ported another product. Not so. This is fact. Moreover, Jeff has no knowledge if IRC/LX was or was not ported or cloned, since he is has no visibility to the code or the development process. That is a fact. Jeff posted much later that he thinks IRC/LX was ported from ircll because the screens look similar. Perhaps - I don't know, I never used ircll. We never posted anything to refute that point, Still, IRC/LX is an original code, not a port, nor a clone. Jeff posted that IRC/LX does not (seem to?) support DCC. In fact, it does. That is a fact. These facts were posted. Jeff described our emails as nasty and flames. I did not describe his posts at all in any way :-> ... I think people have to judge for themselves. For bandwidth watchers: I feel all the facts that needed to come forth have been said. I have nothing else to add at this point. Thanks. Avi Meshar D&A Software http://www.dasoft.com Fryday wrote: > This is not the first time there's been heat from D&A. I seem to recall a very > low flashpoint on anything that was said about their software -- very much as if > it became personal for them. Now, let's keep in perspective: D&A is small and > their software is also their baby, so it's understandable that they would > protect it more than, say, MS would protect their software from naysayers. On > the other hand, even misinformed comments about a product can shed light on how > people perceive this product, just like a comment on a piece of art can she > light on how people feel about it. If the programmer or artist can't take > comments -- good or bad -- in stride (and filter the irrelevant comment), it's > really sad, as it drives potentially happy -- or better informed -- customers. > Now yes, there are assholes that just keep pushing and others that just won't > take the answers they are given, but heck, this is what marketing a product > involves, get used to it. Perhaps, however, the pain of answering stupid > questions or pushy customers is not worth it, in which case this may not be the > best business to be in. > > Thanks, > > Philippe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jeff > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 5:55 AM > Subject: Open Letter > > > To D&A Software: > > > > I am sorry that the platform for which you develop software is slowly > > dying. It's a great platform and I am quite sure that it was a profitable > > venture for you. > > > > Maybe that is why your comapny is so uptight about discussion of > > your products. I agree I originally said "port" and really should have > > said "clone". IRC/LX *seems* to be a "clone" of ircII not a port. There, > > is that better? > > > > Hell, Andreas told me that he never used ircII and had not until I found a > > bug with TELNET/LX when using ircII. I allowed Andreas to log onto one of > > my accounts to help fix the problem, which he did. Shortly there after, I > > was put on the 'asshole' list by the wonderful Andreas and D&A. > > > > D&A has had the monopoly for some time on certain plamtop software. Not > > through any fault, but because they were the only ones who really actively > > developed software for the platform, that's a shame as I am sure there > > were many other great software developers that could have given us > > options. Steve Lawson gave us another commercial option for email and > > heros such as Rod Whitby gave us free software that worked as well as the > > commercial stuff. > > > > To date, I have received to flames (not responses Andreas) from D&A beta > > members and a lovely letter from you to which I responded privately, I > > would be happy to post it here publically should anyone desire to see > > it. Andreas, Avi, and D&A folks, I was taught by Andreas how to filter > > assholes, so my filters are active. This will probably be last post here > > on HPLX-L. It used to be a fun list, now it's just a "let's praise > > D&A" list. I, for one, will not bow down to D&A. Peace to all! > > > > Jeff > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:20:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kabrosta@COLLINS.ROCKWELL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kim Brostad Subject: Kim A Brostad/CedarRapids/Collins/Rockwell is out of the office. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I will be out of the office from 06/29/2000 until 07/10/2000. I will respond to your message if I return. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:35:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Kim A Brostad/CedarRapids/Collins/Rockwell is out of the office. Comments: To: "kabrosta@COLLINS.ROCKWELL.COM" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >-----Original Message----- >From: Kim Brostad Ýmailto:kabrosta@COLLINS.ROCKWELL.COM¨ snip > >I will be out of the office from 06/29/2000 until 07/10/2000. > >I will respond to your message if I return. Uh, oh. Kim's in trouble again.... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:49:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: For Sale: EXP Modems + 4MB Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi, Would you accept $30.00 for one? I wouldn't mind having one for my third 200LX. I don't know what these are worth but I can get a V.90 from Thaddeus for about $100.00, so $30.00 sounds about right. Please let me know. William E. Blankenship A Meshar wrote: > I will accept the BEST OFFER on these modems. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:44:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Kim A Brostad/CedarRapids/Collins/Rockwell is out of the office. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excellent! We were worried last time you left too, I hope you packed plenty of quinine. Bryan Kim Brostad wrote: > > I will be out of the office from 06/29/2000 until 07/10/2000. > > I will respond to your message if I return. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:48:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Subject: Re: Open Letter Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff" > To D&A Software: > I am sorry that the platform for which you develop software is slowly > dying. ************************************* Who is D & A Software? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:56:57 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: Re: Printing. Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You're right, Senor Avi! Anyway the issue is (in any language) how to best print directly from the LX to a desktop connected printer. In dispute is Omniprn (on SUPER) Vs. Interlink. If anyone has had experience with others, maybe they can orient us Newbies. I was disappointed to find out that my Greenwich parallel converter cable (from I think the old Educalc company) won't function when connected between my Canon BubbleJet printer & the LX. :-( Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:15:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Open Letter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ROTFLMAO!!! That's the best one yet!!! >-----Original Message----- >From: Ken Ýmailto:KenLondon@BELD.NET¨ >Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 5:49 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Open Letter > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jeff" >> To D&A Software: >> I am sorry that the platform for which you develop software is slowly >> dying. > >************************************* >Who is D & A Software? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:20:20 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: Re: Tracking stocks and capital gains Comments: To: barry@fbtc.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great! Would be a contribution. Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:20:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ian Butler Subject: Re: Open Letter In-Reply-To: <200006292102.RAA09018@spdmraac.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, A Meshar wrote: > Jeff posted that we seemd to have ported another product. Not > so. This is fact. > > Moreover, Jeff has no knowledge if IRC/LX was or was not > ported or cloned, since he is has no visibility to the code or > the development process. That is a fact. > > Jeff posted much later that he thinks IRC/LX was ported from > ircll because the screens look similar. Perhaps - I don't > know, I never used ircll. We never posted anything to refute > that point, Still, IRC/LX is an original code, not a port, nor > a clone. Whoa, hold up a sec here. There's an enormous difference between "port" and "clone" that I think everybody's missing. A port (at least, a source-code port) is turning a program's source code into something that provides close functionality, but may or may not look the same to the user (i.e., the DOS and Windows ports of WordPerfect 6.0 did the same things, but looked completely different to the user; even the hotkeys were different between the two.) A clone is a program that's made to look and act like another program -- back in the Dark Ages of computing, Compaq cloned IBM's PC BIOS, for example. Compaq's code didn't share a byte of IBM source, yet worked identically. Asteroids and Pac-Man clones may look and work identically to the original games, but didn't require knowledge of the original hardware or software that went into the arcade games. My guess is that IRC/LX works and looks a lot like ircii, and hence could be, accurately, called a clone. Jeff's right in saying so. > Jeff posted that IRC/LX does not (seem to?) support DCC. In > fact, it does. That is a fact. Having spoken to Jeff, his main concern is that IRC/LX does not fully support DCC; it can do DCC chats, but not file transfers. DCC provides an ICQ-like array of peer-to-peer communications; file transfers are a very important part of that, and aren't, to my knowledge, supported by IRC/LX. > These facts were posted. Jeff described our emails as nasty > and flames. I did not describe his posts at all in any way :-> > ... I think people have to judge for themselves. I have not been following this thread particularly closely, but I have heard that off-list mail, from Andreas at least, suggests otherwise. ian Butler / ian@hplx.net http://peace.hplx.net/ The wise are only special in their ability to articulate wisdom. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:21:42 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: Re: Tracking stocks and capital gains Comments: To: epadin@wagweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:23:28 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: Re: Tracking stocks and capital gains Comments: To: epadin@wagweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any idea where to get "Professional Portfolio"? Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:33:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WEB Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WEB Subject: Re: Printing. Comments: To: Bk361kb@AOL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Just to add perspective to the printing issue, I would add these comments. I have used just about every thing possible to connect a printer to my 200LX. I still have all of these cables, adapters and PCMCIA parallel cards. The Greenwich parallel converter cable works well when printing from within the built in PIM software. I haven't tried it to a Canon BubbleJet printer but I was able to print to my HP Deskjet. The Greenwich serial - parallel battery powered data converter worked very well using the PIM applications and for all of my DOS applications that I have loaded on my 200LX. The only thing I found that I had to do was to initialize the COM port by employing MODE COM1:96,n,8,1,p before loading the DOS application I was attempting to print from. This I accomplished by simply stating the above MODE command in a batch file preceding the call to the software. Recently, I purchased a really cherry piece of hardware from Thaddeus. This was the Transdigital Parallel card. This card is really easy to set up and allows me to use it in my 200LX with the requirement of an AC adapter. This is the best method to print to any printer. I have used many. Some of my old DOS software doesn't have drivers for the newer printers but most printers have some backward emulation capabilities so this is not a problem. At worst, I have to set up the software to print to a TTY (teletype) printer. This basic text mode printing doesn't support any of the formatting features but it does produce a document that can be shared. I hope this helps, William. E. Blankenship ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:30:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: TECH: suggested mobile phones MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:24:28 PDT, Stephan Goeldi wrote: > Which one would you suggest to be the perfect LX companion? > > Ericsson R320 Okey phone. Slow menues. Does not show hom many letters are left while writing sms. Does not have the ability to show delivery reports. Has a ugly behind. > Ericsson i888 World "Old" phone(?). This looks like the 888 does'nt it. Well the new phones from Ericsson (R320s and T28s) are based on a more advanced platform. But the i888 is probably okey if you want to use it in the Us too. Should be cheap I think. > Do they have IR? R320s has. And since the Sh888 has irda then I guess I888 also has this. > I think that no softmodem will work with LX, does any? No I have never heard of anything like this. Maybe some sort of pcmciacard will work, but it will probably draw too much power. If I were you I would consider the Nokia models too. I will break it down for you: 8210:Smallest phone in the world(maybe Trium Cosmo is smaller), has irda. Has voicedialing. "Normal" phonebook. Profiles and all the other Nokia features that we are used to. 8850: Same internals as the 8210, but a more flashy looks..Will probably work even "better" with the Hplx because it has alu frame. It also has a flip(looks like a 8810, but with blue leds) More expencive than the 8210. 8890: Same looks as the 8850 but it is a worldphone. Soon to be released. Also has blue leds in the display. Probably expencive. 7110: to big if you are after a small phone, but it has wap(not that importent), a great phonebook where you can store 1000 names each with 5 numbers/2 textfields(beam from the Hplx). Flipcover. (I have one and is very satisfied. Works great with Hplx for data/sms/phonebook transfer) R320s:I do not like the design. It has a "comfort sound" in the speaker. This means that they have added a noise sound for comfort..go figure :-) It feels bigger than the 7110. It reminded me of a Nokia 2110. It is very thin, but it is to wide and tall. Big antenna Slow menues. You will notice after using a Nokia that it is slower to navigate in the menues and also to write sms. I888: Do not know too much about this phone..but probably a "new" Sh888.."old" compared to the ones above.. You should also consider a S35i, but then you will have more trouble with the RF noise thingy. Probably have to use a cable most of the time(comments from S35i users please? :-) It has a phone.om wap browser..not a "real" wapbrowser. Voicedial, voicememo, Internal antenna. Small size. I have not yet seen this. But I have read some reviews. The display is okey, but it has to little backlight. (Only 8890 and I888 are worldphones 900/1800/1900) Well thats it..You may notice that I am a "Nokiaman" :-) Regards -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:37:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Tracking stocks and capital gains MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Quicken for DOS may do it: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=367546006 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362819143 >-----Original Message----- >From: Bill Krauss Ýmailto:Bk361kb@AOL.COM¨ >Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 6:23 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Tracking stocks and capital gains > > >Any idea where to get "Professional Portfolio"? >Bill > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:58:29 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ebbe Horneman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ebbe Horneman Subject: Cheap ISP's in Canada MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am going to Canada and Newfoundland for the celebration of Leiv = Ericsson at L'anse aux Meadows. Does someone know of cheap ISP's to = connect to, so I dont have to call Norway to get my email? Oh by the way = I'm going to use a mobile phone, probably the Motorola Timeport = tribander to connect. I am going to participate in the event onboard the vikingship = Mj=F8senLange. For those on the list that are hams I will bring my = HF-radio and will be using the callsign LB0LE. There is more info on http://www.padling.no/lillehammer/Vikingskip.html Ebbe ****************************************************************** *Ebbe Horneman, PB 2055, 2606 Lillehammer, Norway *Tlf:+4795788004, FAX:61269593 *LB=D8LE ** LC2RAT *ebbeh@online.no *ehornema@maihaugen.museum.no * ***************************************************************** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:56:57 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Intellisync vs Intellilink Comments: To: Bob Penick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, There is a free version (limited to Lotus Organizer 2.1 ) at It has everything the regular version has but only works with Lotus Organizer. Intellilink is the forerunner of Intellisync. The major benefit it has for me is it can work on local files. So just transfer the file (in my case I place my pcmcia flash card in to my laptop) and run the program. No comm pains. I obtained my copy of Intellilink by asking list members. Several members had copies and I purchased one of theirs. My setup runs like this Flash card into laptop slot. Run Intellilink to transfer data to and from Schedule+ (Using it because of the 7 habits tools) and my files on the flash cards. Run it again to transfer data between Lotus organizer 2.1 and the NDB format. Organizer has a notepad section something lacking in schedule+. I then use Intellisync for the palmtop to take the schedule+ and Organizer data and transfer it to the Palm Pilot. There is a trial version of Intellisync on the CD-ROM that comes with "Palm Pilot the Ultimate Guide" published by O"Reilly. It is limited by the number of times you can use it but was useful in making me want (and obtain) the full version. Bob Penick wrote: > I also have Intellisync for my 200 and have the same feeling about it. No > success! Can you tell me a little about the Intellilink program. Patrick West wrote on Sat, 24 Jun 2000 > > Intellisync for it as well but can't get it to work!!!!) and have been > > using Schedule+ and Lotus Organizer 2.1 as a midpoint to swap stuff > > between the two. > > > > I'll probably upgrade to a palm iii or better so I can play with > > Pendragon forms. It looks like the killer app for work as it will allow > > me to use the Palm as an extension of MS Access97 & MS Access2000. > > -- Patrick West pgp 2.6.2 key fingerprint = 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 16:58:58 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Puma Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed, Does that mean you can get Intellisync to work with the 200lx? Ed Padin wrote: > > I wish that Puma had not drooped support for the LX. They stood the best > chance of providing a "Windows CE Services for the 200LX". > -- Patrick West pgp 2.6.2 key fingerprint = 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E 41 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:09:29 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Puma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yeah, didn't he Puma Intellisync for the 200LX work with schedule+, organizer, etc.? It just didn't work for outlook. I figure that it wouldn't have taken much for then to update that program to support outlook and maybe even include things like avantgo... who knows? They were the masters of making all sorts of PIMS talk to eachother. if they still supported the 200LX I'm sure that they would have provided the best sync solution available. I guess they felt the market wasn't there.... There was no 'there' there. >-----Original Message----- >From: Patrick West Ýmailto:patrickwest@USWEST.NET¨ >Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:59 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Puma > > >Ed, >Does that mean you can get Intellisync to work with the >200lx? > >Ed Padin wrote: >> >> I wish that Puma had not drooped support for the LX. They >stood the best >> chance of providing a "Windows CE Services for the 200LX". >> -- >Patrick West pgp 2.6.2 key >fingerprint = 33 1B 3D EC 69 69 3A D4 7F 9A 4D 35 5B D5 0E >41 > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:37:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Kim A Brostad/CedarRapids/Collins/Rockwell is out of theoffice. Comments: To: /////@Home.Com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan Biggers wrote: > > Excellent! We were worried last time you left too, I hope you packed > plenty of quinine. Bryan > > Kim Brostad wrote: > > > > I will be out of the office from 06/29/2000 until 07/10/2000. > > > > I will respond to your message if I return. > > Am I wrong, or does Kim always seem to be` `out of the office' just around the time that Microsoft is looking for a ruling from Federal Court. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:19:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Open Letter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ken wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff" > > To D&A Software: > > I am sorry that the platform for which you develop software is slowly > > dying. > > ************************************* > Who is D & A Software? ROFL!!! That sums it up, no? Avi Meshar D&A Software http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:37:51 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Re: Printing. I have just achieved success printing to a Kodak Diconix inkjet printer directly from my 200LX. I'm using a generic (Maxxtro) serial to parallel converter. The converter plus necessary cables, null modem adapter, etc. takes up more space than the 200LX (but less than the printer!). It all runs off battery power alone. This will work with most dot matrix printers and simple inkjets. Whether or not it will work with the more advanced printers depends on whether or not they have a DOS driver and font built in. I tried printing from Memo and it dropped a bunch of lines, so I just used COPY FILENAME COM1. Worked like a charm. Mark Shields |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) beamsplitter@juno.com http://www.stmattpitt.org "Let the little children come to Me," Jesus said, "and don't keep them away. The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these." -Matthew 19:14 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:56:55 PDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , xymox hk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: xymox hk Subject: Re: Subnet Mask Calculator Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed pls let me know too! Also, if u can find any tftp working for our LX. (best for backup cisco IOS image/cfg by LX) Thanks, Billy P.S. Hi Avi M., my HV everything working now, especially IRDA connection, at&f+CBST=14,0,1 Perfect job! >I have been dying to find one! Please, please, please let me know if >you >succeed. I've toyed with the idea of writing one but just don't >have the time. If I had some source code to work with I might be able >to >do it. I don't want to reinvent the wheel when it comes to the > > >algorithms involved... and besides, my programming skillz are pitiful. >-----Original Message----- >From: David Cripps Ýmailto:d-cripps@DIRCON.CO.UK¨ >Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:18 AM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Subnet Mask Calculator > > >Hi > >At the moment I'm studying for Cisco's CCNA and was wondering >if anybody >knows of a dos based Variable Length Sub-net mask calculator >that runs on the >HP? > >All the one's i've found are windoz based :-( > >Many thanks ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:15:01 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: 12V external vs 3V internal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Peniel Romanelli wrote: >Probably because the external supply must also feed the battery >charging circuit. To provide the two more-or-less constant charging >rates, the supply needs to exceed the nominal battery voltage. The >actual specs for an external supply are 9.6V - 14.4V (12V +/- 20%). > But why must the external voltage be around 4 times that of the two AA batteries? I think in many other portable devices, such as Walkmans and CD players, the nominal input voltage from an AC/DC adaptor is about 1.5 times more, and not 4 times compared to the LX. Some of these other portable players can also use rechargeable batteries, and be charged with the adaptor. >At least with mine, the charger becomes unstable at 9V, and switches on >and off (I was using a regulated supply). The LX should work OK at 10V >and run cooler. > By regulated supply, do you mean the car adaptor that plugs into the cigarette lighter? I was using such a regulated supply car adaptor recently on a CD player which requires 4.5V input (it actually uses 2 AA batteries), and was puzzled why it switched on and off by itself. I thought it was due to overheating on the part of the adaptor. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:16:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Open Letter In-Reply-To: <200006292102.RAA09018@spdmraac.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, A Meshar wrote: > Moreover, Jeff has no knowledge if IRC/LX was or was not > ported or cloned, since he is has no visibility to the code or > the development process. That is a fact. > > Jeff posted much later that he thinks IRC/LX was ported from > ircll because the screens look similar. Perhaps - I don't > know, I never used ircll. We never posted anything to refute > that point, Still, IRC/LX is an original code, not a port, nor > a clone. This is true, I have never seen the code, but do have the source for ircII. The whole original point was that it looks and pretty much behaves like ircII. For goodness sakes, I said it *seemed* to be a port of ircII and I'll keep saying that based on the fact that it looks and acts like it. There is no slander or libel by me stating the fact that it looks and acts like ircII. Avi and Andreas both say it's original and they have every right to say this and it very well may be, but it looks and acts like ircII. It does not have an original user interface like mIRC does. If nothing else, I'm quite sure this rant/discussion/fight has probably resulted in a drastic increase in the amount of downloads of the software from the D&A web site, maybe they'll sell some more copies. I sincerely hope that they do. Heck, if I can't be rich I hope someone I know is. If you are someone that downloads it and tries it, please take a peek at ircII also so you will see what I mean when I say that it looks and acts like ircII. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:16:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Open Letter In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, ian Butler wrote: > software that went into the arcade games. My guess is that IRC/LX works and > looks a lot like ircii, and hence could be, accurately, called a clone. > Jeff's right in saying so. Exactly, it looks and acts like ircII. > Having spoken to Jeff, his main concern is that IRC/LX does not fully > support DCC; it can do DCC chats, but not file transfers. DCC provides an > ICQ-like array of peer-to-peer communications; file transfers are a very > important part of that, and aren't, to my knowledge, supported by IRC/LX. To the very best of my knowledge and from previous use, it doesn't do DCC file transfers and like Ian stated, that is very important in ircII. I used the product (the demo version) when it was originally released and haven't used it since. If it does fully implement DCC, someone please let me know. > I have not been following this thread particularly closely, but I have heard > that off-list mail, from Andreas at least, suggests otherwise. I won't even touch this one, but suffice it to say that Andreas and I once got along in a grand manner but after I was labeled as a twit our relationship went South very quickly, and by South I don't mean Alabama. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:17:40 -0700 Reply-To: Troy@Goddard.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Troy Goddard Subject: Unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <200006290154.SAA19051@mb3.mailbank.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please remove me from your e-mail list Thank you ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:54:17 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Open Letter Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeff wrote: > This will probably be last post here > on HPLX-L. It used to be a fun list, now it's just a "let's praise > D&A" list. I, for one, will not bow down to D&A. Peace to all! Jeff, I won't be dragged into your dispute with D&A but I think we all lose if you (or anyone) leave. I don't agree with your evaluation of the list, if anything it has recently turned into a Visor list. ;-) We are all aware of the current state concerning our LXs. While we all think the LX is valuable, it isn't more valuable than the sum of all of list members. If we allow the LX user community to fragment then we'll all lose a very valuable "accessory" that increases the LX's worth every day. My LX is worth 10X as much now compared to when I first got it and I have this list to thank for that. I hope I've been able to contribute a little in return. Cheers... Russ ps- For this 4th of July weekend I'm going to buy some (more) ammo to celebrate my 2nd Ammendment *Rights*! Independence Day! It's not just a day off work. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:03:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Open Letter In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Russel Brooks wrote: > ps- For this 4th of July weekend I'm going to buy some (more) ammo to > celebrate my 2nd Ammendment *Rights*! > > Independence Day! It's not just a day off work. Amen! If you happen to run-out I have a small stockpile ranging from .22 all the way to .50AE for pistols and various calibers of rifle ammo. Don't forget that the 2nd admenment doesn't give you those rights, it merely puts them in writing. As an American you were born with 'em and I'll die to defend them :-) I truly wish all Americans a safe and happy 4th. If you do feel the need to drink and drive then drink Pepsi and don't forget there will me more officers on the roadways than any previous 4th of July. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:22:06 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: How to unsubscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, You can unsubscribe yourself from the mailing list by sending an email to LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU , and type in the body of your message SIGNOFF HPLX-L >Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:17:40 -0700 >From: Troy Goddard >Subject: Unsubscribe > >Please remove me from your e-mail list > >Thank you > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:25:22 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Open Letter Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > To the very best of my knowledge and from previous use, it doesn't do DCC > file transfers and like Ian stated, that is very important in ircII. I > used the product (the demo version) when it was originally released and > haven't used it since. If it does fully implement DCC, someone please let > me know. I'm guilty of being a beta tester (but generally avoid hot temperatures!). And I'm also guilty of not being too much into irc but recall my testing. And I also recall receiving a file from someone while testing. Reviewing the irc/lx documentation I did find this reference but really admit to not knowing all of its implications: /dcc opens a DCC chat or file transfer session. Only one concurrent session is supported. While a chat session is active, all typed text (which does not start with "/") is sent over the chat line. Example: /dcc chat johnny (starts a chat session) Example: /dcc send johnny xxx.txt (sends file xxx.txt to johnny) Example: /dcc close (terminates active session) Again, I also recall someone sending me some file back when I was testing and think it came during the session but I could be wrong. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 23:34:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Open Letter In-Reply-To: <20000630042521.RFWU1264.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, F. Kaufman wrote: > /dcc > opens a DCC chat or file transfer session. Only one concurrent > session is supported. While a chat session is active, all typed text > (which does not start with "/") is sent over the chat line. > Example: /dcc chat johnny (starts a chat session) > Example: /dcc send johnny xxx.txt (sends file xxx.txt to johnny) > Example: /dcc close (terminates active session) IIRC, as mentioned earlier I don't have it loaded on my LX right now, IRC/LX comes with help file of irc commands. There are various forms of this help file floating around on the internet and one of the best, most recently updated versions I have seen can be found at: http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircprimer.html If you aren't familiar with irc, it's some good reading, but could take you a while to read. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:48:27 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Cooling off MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden, > Part of the problem is a mixture of glib writers and short-tempers .... a very > nasty combination in the summer-time. > > Maybe we all just need to re-read our notes and think a bit about the message > before we hit "SEND". Barry, > I'd like to suggest to all of you: the ones that made the other guys > angry, and that's all of you in that discussion, and the ones that > got angry, and that's all of you in this discussion, that this isn't > appropriate behavior for this listserve. Amen. One e-mail may let loose an avelanche of (useless) e-mails. No e-mail will trigger nothing. The best response in such situations is simply NO response HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 02:08:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: OT: MID$ function for the TS1000 emulator HI All, Tonight I finally figured out how to get the MID$ functionality out of TS1000 BASIC. It turned out to be directly related with how one defines a matrix string variable in TS1000 BASIC. Believe it or not, the following are a couple of examples of what I have discovered will work: 10 let a$="abcd" 20 rem I want to print only the 2nd element of a$ 30 print a$(2) 40 rem now I want to print only the 2nd and 3rd elements of a$ 50 print a$(2 to 3) I still haven't figured out how to effectively use the INKEY$ function. If you can remember how the TS1000 version of INKEY$ can be effectively used or if you can find your old TS1000 manual, please let me know. Thanks in advance. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:33:39 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Avantgo... From: Ed Padin > I used AG on the Nino and thought it was great. The Windows CE machines > still have one aspect that is still superior to the LX in that they sync up > so much nicer. You plug the damn' thing in and it gets the avantgo stuff and > syncs up to outlook with you having to press a key or click the mouse. I What I was thinking of was like something using i.e. robot/lx to parse the avantgo "fetch" file and dl to the LX. IIRC I saw the url embedded in the file; it also looked easy to parse with " as delimiters. Before I always thought programming was interesting but I felt that I didn't have anything useful to program. So I just used to do the beginner's intro in whatever language I could find. End result is that I can recognize code when I see it but that I don't know anything. Now I start to see ideas but lack the technical ability. Maybe later... :-) br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:04:55 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Good bye MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello friends, unfortunately, I don't have the time anymore to handle all this email on this list. So I'll have to set my list account to "nomail" for a while. I think at least until the middle of August. I'm having examinations at university soon, then I'll travel for a few weeks to Vancouver. A question: Can i still send postings to the list, even if I'm set to nomail? Maybe I'll read the list occasionally via the news server. But, if someone has questions about any topic that he hopes to be aswered by me, please email me directly at d.hertrich@gmx.de Also my homepage will soon move from http://www.user.tu-berlin.de/~dherbgba to http://www.daniel-hertrich.de David, could you please set the redirection http://daniel.hplx.net to the new URL? Thanks you - and see you in August or September... GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:05:44 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: TECH: suggested mobile phones MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Sstephan, On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:24:28 PDT, Stephan Goeldi wrote: > Ericsson R320 > Ericsson i888 World I don't know the latter. But for the former (and many others), visit http://daniel.hplx.net/mob_hplx and read... > I think that no softmodem will work with LX, does any? Right. They only run on windows systems, as far as I know. GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 05:08:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Good bye MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > I'm having examinations at university soon, then I'll travel for a few > weeks to Vancouver. I wish you success in the first part, and lots of fun in the second part... Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:46:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: OT: MID$ function for the TS1000 emulator Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doesn't INKEY$ read the keyboard *without* waiting for a keypress? I.E. it will "peek" at the keyboard port and see if there is something there, if not, it won't wait for a keypree before returning... I never used a Sinclair/TImex 1000, but most popular BASICs of the day had some such function... HTH, Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "John J Vanderstel" To: Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:08 AM Subject: OT: MID$ function for the TS1000 emulator > HI All, > > Tonight I finally figured out how to get the MID$ functionality out of > TS1000 BASIC. It turned out to be directly related with how one defines > a matrix string variable in TS1000 BASIC. Believe it or not, the > following are a couple of examples of what I have discovered will work: > > 10 let a$="abcd" > 20 rem I want to print only the 2nd element of a$ > 30 print a$(2) > 40 rem now I want to print only the 2nd and 3rd elements of a$ > 50 print a$(2 to 3) > > I still haven't figured out how to effectively use the INKEY$ function. > If you can remember how the TS1000 version of INKEY$ can be effectively > used or if you can find your old TS1000 manual, please let me know. > > Thanks in advance. :-) > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:10:57 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: OT: MID$ function for the TS1000 emulator In-Reply-To: <20000630.020831.11318.0.j_vanderstel@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, John J Vanderstel wrote: The ZX81, now there's a machine I had a lot of fun with. > Tonight I finally figured out how to get the MID$ functionality out of > TS1000 BASIC. It turned out to be directly related with how one defines > a matrix string variable in TS1000 BASIC. Believe it or not, the > following are a couple of examples of what I have discovered will work: Another solution would have been to use the MID$ function ;-) MID$(A$,M,N) = A$(M TO M+N-1) There's also LEFT$, RIGHT$, and an odd fellow named TL$, which takes the tail of a string. > I still haven't figured out how to effectively use the INKEY$ function. > If you can remember how the TS1000 version of INKEY$ can be effectively > used or if you can find your old TS1000 manual, please let me know. Like already mentioned in another post, INKEY$ merely peeks at the keyboard status, with no waiting. To use it you would probably have to do something like this: 10 LET A$=INKEY$ 20 IF A$="" THEN GOTO 10 30 IF A$="..." THEN ... 40 ... In simple games, a more advanced way of using INKEY$ is this, which IIRC was quite popular: Suppose the variable x contains the x position of something on the screen which we wish to move either left or right using the keys Z and X: 05 REM Default value for X 10 LET X=16 15 REM This is the loop, first erase the old # 20 PRINT AT 5, X; " " 25 REM inc or dec X as appropriate 30 LET X=X+(INKEY$="Z")-(INKEY$="X") 40 PRINT AT 5,X; "#" 50 GOTO 20 This program should produce a flickering X that can be moved left and right with Z and X. The flickering can be removed by saving the old X value and removing the old X only if it's position is different from the new one. The program might look rather weird at first, but the idea is simple. ``(INKEY$="Z")'' will be true (which equals the value one) if Z is pressed ``-(INKEY$="X")'' will be minus one, hence X is increased and decreased correctly. An even more advanced usage would be to add checks to make sure the X didn't move outside the screen. Something like: 30 LET X=X+(INKEY$="Z" AND X<31)-(INKEY$="X" AND X>1) ``(INKEY$="Z" AND X<31)'' is only true (one) if Z was pressed AND if X is not already at the right screen border. Likewise for the other expression. I hope this makes sense. I won't rule out some errors in the above code as it has really been years since I last used a ZX81. The general principle should be sound, though. Anyway, this is getting fairly off topic on the list :-) If my programs do not seem to work and you cannot figure out why, let me know in private e-mail and I'll see if I cannot figure out why. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:19:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: 12V external vs 3V internal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:30:55 -0400 (EDT) 11h15m04s ago ... On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Teo Soon Bock wrote: > But why must the external voltage be around 4 times that of the two AA > batteries? I think in many other portable devices, such as Walkmans = and CD > players, the nominal input voltage from an AC/DC adaptor is about 1.5 = times > more, and not 4 times compared to the LX. Some of these other portable > players can also use rechargeable batteries, and be charged with the = adaptor. Without seeing the circuit diagram of either the LX or the other devices that allow recharging, this is just guesswork - but that never stopped me before 8-> A lot of devices charge the batteries simply thru a resistor and diode. That arrangement will work at slightly more then the peak battery voltage + the diode drop. Current isn't regulated and charging isn't monitored. The LX (I think) uses a charge controller chip that can set the charge rate to either 100mA or 40mA, as well as turn charging on and off. My guess is that this chip requires at least 9V to operate. > >At least with mine, the charger becomes unstable at 9V, and switches = on > >and off (I was using a regulated supply). The LX should work OK at = 10V > >and run cooler. > > > By regulated supply, do you mean the car adaptor that plugs into the > cigarette lighter? No. I have 2 Radio Shack regulated "wall warts" - one's a lightweight switching supply, and the other is a linear regulator. Both have selectable output from 3 - 12V. Wouldn't use a non-regulated supply with the LX unless it was an emergency. Later, Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:09:17 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Subnet Mask Calculator In-Reply-To: <200006291216.NAA41457@mailhost2.dircon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, David Cripps wrote: > At the moment I'm studying for Cisco's CCNA and was wondering if anybody > knows of a dos based Variable Length Sub-net mask calculator that runs on the > HP? If this is what you (and others) are looking for: http://jodies.cx/ipcalc (CGI version) then I have hacked the Perl script behind the CGI version sufficiently to make it run under Perl4 on the LX. Of course, it requires the 300kb Perl interpreter, but if you have the space... A programmer with too much time on his hands (not me) would probably also be able to convert it into a C program or similar and save 250 kb or so... Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:02:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Shields Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Shields Subject: Thanks! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks again to all the list members who have responded to my questions. I have a 200LX well set up to handle school files,, have connected it to a printer, and have procedures in place for transferring files via cable and modem, plus two card readers on the way. Lurking in the background are the 100LX with the bad screen and some backup memory cards, modem, etc. This is a truly useful computer system with fantastic support! I do have some more questions but will post them separately. Mark Shields /\_/\ ( o o ) ==¬== ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:00:19 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: PNR handles MIME! (sort of - with a bit of help) I thought this discovery might interest list members: I use Rod Whitby's palmtop News Reader to read nearly all my home email. The other day, I had to write up a project specification, and after 3 frustrating hours using WORD I had to go, so I saved the file as rtf and sent it "home" via email as an attachment. Today I downloaded it using LXTCP & PNR and saved the message to a file. I then used MUNPACK, which is a MIME decoder, to convert it back to rtf. I then used DOC2RTF to convert it to a MEMO document and kept on editting the file in MEMO while sitting in the sunshine on my balconey. (Much more pleasant and calming than fighting WORD in the office.) Once finished, I reversed the whole procedure: Convert the MEMO DOC file to rtf using DOCRTF Pack the rtf document into a MIME file using MPACK. Create a new email in PNR and attach the MIMEd file. I unchecked the signature box. When PNR sent me to MEMO to write my email, I closed MEMO and returned straight to PNR. Now here comes a little trick. MPACK adds headers to the message, but PNR thinks of it all as text. So after returning to PNR I then went into the MAIL REPLIES folder, selected the last message and pressed EDIT to send it to MEMO. The email now appears in MEMO with all its headers. I deleted the blank lines between the two sets of headers (one set created by PNR and the second created by MPACK) in order to make one block of headers. I also deleted the second "Subject:" header created by MPACK. That was it. It is a lot simpler to do than to describe. I sent the email to work with a cc to home and then checked email on my desktop with outlook. One click on the attachment and the document opened in WORD. (You have to give Micro$oft their due). With a very little bit of tweaking PNR might be able to handle most of this automatically. David Sargeant can you hear? I know you have absolutely nothing to do with your spare time ;) If I have time I might do it myself! This is just another case of how useful this old out-of-date decrepid palmtop can be. (Not to mention the old out-of-date decrepid palmtop user :) ) DOC2RTF is, I believe, available on S.U.P.E.R. and MPACK/MUNPACK is available from: ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack. This is the URL in the documentation. If anyone wants it, I can send you a copy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:20:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: LX Avantgo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>Why not program an Avantgo client for the LX? Maybe Dasoft could add it to the www/lx suite or someone else as a standalone to work with a tcp/ip stack. I had a look at an avantgo file from mapquest (?) and it seems to be just plain text requesting this and that file etc. This would constitute part of a offline browsing package.<<<<< I haven't used Avantgo on the Palm but I've read a number of posts about it on the Palm newsgroup and one of the common complaints is that the program is very slow and very large and not well designed. It might be interesting if an LX programmer (we have some good ones) showed them what it could be like written with efficiency in mind. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:29:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 28 Jun 2000 to 29 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-233) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>To date, I have received to flames (not responses Andreas) from D&A beta members and a lovely letter from you to which I responded privately, I would be happy to post it here publically should anyone desire to see it. Andreas, Avi, and D&A folks, I was taught by Andreas how to filter assholes, so my filters are active. This will probably be last post here on HPLX-L. It used to be a fun list, now it's just a "let's praise D&A" list. I, for one, will not bow down to D&A. Peace to all!<<<<< I hope you'll reconsider leaving the list. I've personally found your posts to be worthwhile and often entertaining. Right now you're angry and maybe acting a little childish. This has been like a fight among a bunch of little kids. Not a good time to make decisions. I hope you'll put off that decision about leaving until you cool off. In the meantime I hope you wont make yourself feel locked out from participating by making statements like the one above. This is still a good list and we all need your help to keep it that way. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:51:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 28 Jun 2000 to 29 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-233) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>Of course, I've also tried beaming to the LX with IR in various modes, including OBEX, and using debug mode I can see it receives a bunch of packets, but then the connection closes, and nothing is saved. I don't really understand what the different modes of IR.exe are for though.<<<<< I don't know much about ir but i was under the impresson that data formats were the hitch. That could explain a closed connection: if the receiver doesn't know what to do with what's being sent. Offhand it seems like what is needed is something on the lx that will convert text to a format the Palm understands and that should make sending pretty easy. But, as I said, I don't know much about ir. An example of what I mean is a program that will send text to the Palm in doc format and receive from the Palm in doc format and save it on the LX as text. That would allow using the beam feature of the Palm. I guess you'd need to know if things are beamed in the same format they're stored in but that information should be readily available. I can see how this could turn into a long, difficult project. But it really seems more likely to be a fairly simple one. Maybe that's because I don't know enough about it :) If the doc stuff turns out to be straightforward then it shouldn't be much harder to make a synch program for the phone books in the two machines. Or for other apps. If anybody wants to look into this a little I will too and if it looks good I wouldn't mind doing the data conversion portion. I'd rather not get into the communications part. (I got stuck with communications programming a number of times at work and hated every minute of it). Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:58:26 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: TECH: suggested mobile phones Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" THe link results in a "Datei nicht gefunden!" (Data not found?). >-----Original Message----- >From: Daniel Hertrich Ýmailto:d.hertrich@GMX.DE¨ >Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 4:06 AM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ TECH: suggested mobile phones > > >Hi Sstephan, > >On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:24:28 PDT, Stephan Goeldi > wrote: > >> Ericsson R320 >> Ericsson i888 World > >I don't know the latter. >But for the former (and many others), visit >http://daniel.hplx.net/mob_hplx >and read... > >> I think that no >softmodem will work with LX, does any? > >Right. They only run on windows systems, as far as I know. > >GTX >daniel > > >-- > >Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de >homepage: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de >telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:56:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Timex stuff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>Does the Spectrum emulator that you are using include a copy of the manual or a reference card in the archive to serve as a reminder of the required sintax and the capabilities of Spectrum BASIC? The TS1000 emulators I've seen include nothing like that. Oh, also, does Spectrum BASIC offer the MID$ function? I've also rediscovered that the TS1000 never did offer that. I'm almost positive that the TS Color computer (TS2086?) offered that function. Has anyone seen an emulator for that early computer?<<<<< Some years ago when I was playing with TS1000.com, the TS1000 emulator on the LX, I couldn't find much info on how to run the Timex so I went to the timex sinclair newsgroup (I don't recall it's name but it was easy to find and I've been on it this year so I know it's still there) and asked if anyone had or knew of any information about it in digital form. I quickly received about 3 offers to send spare manuals via snail mail. I got one and it was in great shape and got me started. Later when I lost interest I passed it to someone else so I don't still have it. But I think they're not hard to find. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:02:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Timex stuff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362997341 >-----Original Message----- >From: Barry Ýmailto:barry@FBTC.NET¨ >Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 11:57 AM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Timex stuff > > >>>>>Does the Spectrum emulator that you are using include a copy of >the >manual or a reference card in the archive to serve as a reminder of >the >required sintax and the capabilities of Spectrum BASIC? The TS1000 >emulators I've seen include nothing like that. Oh, also, does >Spectrum >BASIC offer the MID$ function? I've also rediscovered that the >TS1000 >never did offer that. I'm almost positive that the TS Color >computer >(TS2086?) offered that function. Has anyone seen an emulator for >that >early computer?<<<<< > >Some years ago when I was playing with TS1000.com, the TS1000 >emulator on the LX, I couldn't find much info on how to run the >Timex so I went to the timex sinclair newsgroup (I don't recall it's >name but it was easy to find and I've been on it this year so I know >it's still there) and asked if anyone had or knew of any information >about it in digital form. I quickly received about 3 offers to send >spare manuals via snail mail. I got one and it was in great shape >and got me started. Later when I lost interest I passed it to >someone else so I don't still have it. But I think they're not hard >to find. :) > >Barry > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:02:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 28 Jun 2000 to 29 Jun 2000 - Special issue (#2000-233) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>INKEY$ was used to check if a key was pressed. If used i believe like this: "IF INKEY$ = "a" THEN PRINT "HELLO"", then you use a goto loop to trap the keys you're looking for.<<<< A more common use of INKEY$ in most Basics is W$=INKEY$:IF W$ <> NULL THEN.... This lets you build your own input loop and is very useful. I think that's what he was looking for. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:05:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: IRC/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I just reloaded IRC/LX and will pubically state that it does do DCC, at least it just received a file that I had someone send. Wow! I'm not too big to admit my mistakes, but I still say it's a clone of ircII. Notice I am now trying to use the word clone instead of port in hopes that it's more politically correct. Of course, I am definitely not PC nor claim to be, so there . Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- - NotAChance.com, Where there's Not A Chance! - -- http://www.notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:28:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: We're it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>We are all aware of the current state concerning our LXs. While we all think the LX is valuable, it isn't more valuable than the sum of all of list members. If we allow the LX user community to fragment then we'll all lose a very valuable "accessory" that increases the LX's worth every day<<<<< I think you make a very good point. We are the LX community. I use the lx and now and then even write something for it. D&A Software and others keep it up to date. Hal Goldstein and Co. also keep it up to date and make them available and make more accesories available for them than ever in the past. Mack and others found ways to speed up the CPU and add huge (by dos standards) amounts of memory. There might even be a backlight. We're keeping it alive. When we stop doing that, all of us, the only people that own LXs will be the ones who see them on Ebay and are atracted to the word "Rare" attached to them. Not that they'll be rare but that'll be people's reason to have one to show their friends. They won't have the least idea how to use them. Who knows how to handle dos today? "Dos? Isn't that some kind of thing before real OS's with windows?" "I wonder what anybody ever used these things for?" "Probably as an intelligent AA battery charger. What else can they do?" "Well, there is the address book" "Yeah but you have to type it in and you can't draw a map to the address" "The people who had to use these things must really have been primitive" "Yeah, they were kind of pathetic. I wonder what people were like when they used these. And before anesthia was invented. They must really have suffered" "Well, let's just be glad we're civilized now and have real PDA's today and not these silly little toys." And that is exactly where we and the LX is going to go. All we can do is to hold it off a while longer. Let's not be pathetic quite yet. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:48:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brent Geske Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brent Geske Subject: Re: Cheap ISP's in Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It was written: >I am going to Canada and Newfoundland for the celebration of Leiv Ericsson= =20 >at L'anse aux Meadows. Does someone know of cheap ISP's to connect to, so= =20 >I dont have to call Norway to get my email? Oh by the way I'm going to use= =20 >a mobile phone, probably the Motorola Timeport tribander to connect. > >I am going to participate in the event onboard the vikingship Mj=F8senLange= .=20 >For those on the list that are hams I will bring my HF-radio and will be=20 >using the callsign LB0LE. Canada? Where is that? *Sorry*, I couldn't resist! (Actually, I hear it's like a whole other=20 country.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:48:55 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Suquet, Stephan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Suquet, Stephan" Subject: Web site design. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Is there a program running under dos allowing web site design, for cel. = phone access ? Thanks a lot and regards.=20 St=E9phane SUQUET LIZARRAGA PLANIFICACION ECONOMICO-FINANCIERA AGUAS PROVINCIALES DE SANTA FE S.A. Tel: 0341 420 6713 / Fax: 0341 420 6746 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:55:29 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Timex stuff In-Reply-To: <002b01bfe2ab$d2ee97c0$5afc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Barry wrote: > Some years ago when I was playing with TS1000.com, the TS1000 > emulator on the LX, I couldn't find much info on how to run the > Timex so I went to the timex sinclair newsgroup (I don't recall it's > name but it was easy to find and I've been on it this year so I know > it's still there) and asked if anyone had or knew of any information That would be comp.sys.sinclair. It's very active for such an old machine. > about it in digital form. I quickly received about 3 offers to send > spare manuals via snail mail. I got one and it was in great shape > and got me started. Later when I lost interest I passed it to > someone else so I don't still have it. But I think they're not hard > to find. :) There are also several Project Gutenberg-style documentation projects in progress, converting old manuals to ASCII. One of them covers the ZX81, but I don't think it's gotten very far. It seems, though, that this page http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Ridge/9965/index.html Contains a scanned version of the ZX81 manual, or at least the first eight chapters, but that should be enough to get people started :-) Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:04:44 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Open Letter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >My LX is worth 10X as much now compared to when I first got it and I >have this list to thank for that. I hope I've been able to contribute a >little in return. - Cheers... Russ me too, and the most wonderful friends who have helped me in my LX needs (and life and love :)) have told me humbly not to thank them publicly on this list >Amen! If you happen to run-out I have a small stockpile ranging from .22 >all the way to .50AE for pistols and various calibers of rifle ammo -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department you better wach out, Avi :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:35:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Brown Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Brown Subject: Re: Subnet Mask Calculator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > A programmer with too much time on his hands (not me) would probably also > be able to convert it into a C program or similar and save 250 kb or so... > While I'm not good with programming, I did see this project for Linux people: http://freshmeat.net/appindex/2000/05/09/957913333.html It runs on the command line and has source code included. -- Curtis Brown, curtisb@optimus-corp.com Software Testing Division, OPTIMUS Corporation (o< -Linux //\ "Can't break it, eh? ...Got a screwdriver?" V_/_ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:35:54 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Geert van Wirdum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Geert van Wirdum Subject: Re: 12V external vs 3V internal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Being no expert, I still have some comments: 1) HP used to design adapter specs such that different devices could be used with the same adapters: The HP41C-CX calculators, mini-tape drives, thermal printers, HP-Il to whatever converters, 110 and Portable Plus laptops, 3.5' disc drives and ThinkJet printers all worked off the same adapter. The palmtop uses a different one, but this in turn is exchangeable with the early Omnibooks, even though the specs are slightly different. Thus, the Voltage should be suitable for the device needing the highest voltage. I have no idea whether HP deliberately had this policy, but I very much appreciated it. 2) The 12 Volt DC out basically enables a coupling to car batteries, very much increasing the mobile-use flexibility. We all know there is a risk with direct coupling, especially when the supply voltage is subject to spikes caused by simultaneous other uses. This is where the regulated supply comes in, and the present specs allow for a regulated supply adapter off 12 Volt. Still, when you just have some light bulbs on the same battery, and you are not charging it, I assume you are safe with a direct cable. I have been so for quite some time. 3) For the regulated adapters, either AC (mains) or DC (car batteries), the delivered Voltage might have been specified lower if the charging circuit within the palmtop had been designed for that. This would require a greater current (amperage) through the cable between the adapter and the palmtop, with either more loss of voltage and energy, or a shorter or thicker cable. A thumb calculation for this tells me a 3 V DC out would still go with a reasonably long and thin copper line without any substantial loss in the case of the palmtop requiring roughly 1 W (0.75 A at 12 V) in. However, general installation rules would recommend a maximum of some 5 A through a thin wire at 50 degrees Celsius. At 3 V, the otherwise 0.75 A of the adapter would increase to 3 A (4x0.75). The OB425 adapter is 12 V out rated at 2.5 A, so that would, while still without considerable loss, violate installation rules at 10 A resulting from using 3 V. I don't know what HP really deliberately planned, but I feel quite happy about the result. In the last 25 years small electronic devices have been developed and become commonly available to cheaply provide stable AC from DC batteries, with very little loss. These will gradually decrease the demand for device-specific DC adapters. I assume sometime in the futur most cars will have a contact giving the same AC you are used to at home. Geert. > I am puzzled why does the LX need 12V external, when internal batteries = of > 3V is enough to run it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:58:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: PNR handles MIME! (sort of - with a bit of help) In-Reply-To: <200005301800.PNR01968@netmedia.net.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, David Becher wrote: > Now here comes a little trick. MPACK adds headers to the message, but PNR > thinks of it all as text. So after returning to PNR I then went into the > MAIL REPLIES folder, selected the last message and pressed EDIT to send it > to MEMO. The email now appears in MEMO with all its headers. I deleted the > blank lines between the two sets of headers (one set created by PNR and the > second created by MPACK) in order to make one block of headers. I also deleted > the second "Subject:" header created by MPACK. That was it. I don't think you actually need to worry about deleting the second set of headers, as long as there is a sequence of two EOL characters between them. After using MUNPACK, I can read on my 200LX most files sent as attachments with either LXPIC.COM (graphics) or VIEW.EXE (Word). Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:04:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: FLUFF: Re: IRC/LX Comments: To: Jeff In-Reply-To: <200006301605.e5UG5Qo24719@hplx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Jeff wrote: > I just reloaded IRC/LX and will pubically state that it does do DCC, at > least it just received a file that I had someone send. Wow! I'm not too big > to admit my mistakes, but I still say it's a clone of ircII. Notice I am now > trying to use the word clone instead of port in hopes that it's more > politically correct. Here's my sense of the terms. Port suggests creating the program (to some extent) from pre-existing code, and clone suggests an *intent* to make the program similar. From what Avi has said, I don't think either term really applies. Of course, that's just *my* understanding of the terms. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:50:35 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: Open Letter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Please, all of you, stop wasting HPLX-L bandwidth with this D&A controversy b******t. Also, please, stop bragging about the so-called right your second amendment supposedly gives you to blow your own or other people's brains out with guns. It makes a lot of people sick, especially people in Europe. Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Jan 1980 00:53:24 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Good bye Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > I'm having examinations at university soon, then I'll travel for a few > weeks to Vancouver. Gute Flugstunden - for both occasions (g). > A question: Can i still send postings to the list, even if I'm set to > nomail? The list is a two way street. What would be the value of posting without reading ? HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:22:23 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Open Letter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Whoo boy! Now we gonna have a goddam gun control debate... yeeesh! Where's my gun so I can end it all now? :-P~~ Hey, Hobchi. Everybody's pissed and you're not involved. What gives? BTW: Al Kind is gonna be pissed that the kidz didn't behave while he wuz gone... tsk,tsk,tsk. >-----Original Message----- >From: Ulrich Boche Ýmailto:BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM¨ >Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 4:51 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Open Letter > > >Please, all of you, stop wasting HPLX-L bandwidth with this >D&A controversy >b******t. > >Also, please, stop bragging about the so-called right your >second amendment >supposedly gives you to blow your own or other people's brains out with >guns. It makes a lot of people sick, especially people in Europe. > >Ulrich Boche > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 21:26:15 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Subnet Mask Calculator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Ed & David (& anyone else interested), After your original post some time ago (Ed, IIRC), I started to write one, but got caught up with other things. I'm self-employed, so do occasionally have some spare time. At the moment I'm at the analysis/quoting stage of another biggish (for me) s/w project. If you wish me bad luck, and the potential customer doesn't bite, then I'll carry on with it and hopefully finish it. Just thought I'd mention it - it gives me some incentive to get on with it! Please let me know if you find an alternative, then I won't bother! ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Ed Padin wrote: > I have been dying to find one! Please, please, please let me know if = you > succeed. I've toyed with the idea of writing one but just don't have = the > time. If I had some source code to work with I might be able to do it. = I > don't want to reinvent the wheel when it comes to the algorithms = involved... > and besides, my programming skillz are pitiful. > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David Cripps Ýmailto:d-cripps@DIRCON.CO.UK¨ > >Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:18 AM > >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Subnet Mask Calculator > > > > > >Hi > > > >At the moment I'm studying for Cisco's CCNA and was wondering > >if anybody > >knows of a dos based Variable Length Sub-net mask calculator > >that runs on the > >HP? > > > >All the one's i've found are windoz based :-( > > > >Many thanks > > > >Dave Cripps ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:31:48 -0400 Reply-To: Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Re: Open Letter Comments: To: BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, I had too. Owen "For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead to the future." Adolf Hitler, 1935 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ulrich Boche" Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 16:50 > > Also, please, stop bragging about the so-called right your second amendment > supposedly gives you to blow your own or other people's brains out with > guns. It makes a lot of people sick, especially people in Europe. > > Ulrich Boche > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 23:47:28 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Open Letter In-Reply-To: <003801bfe2da$98e4e9b0$72e1f489@robins.af.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII *yawn*, let's not have another debate about guns and gun control, *please*! The list has enough noise as it is. On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Owen Samuelson wrote: > "For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our > streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will > follow our lead to the future." Erm, did you have a point with this quote? if so, I fail to see it, or the quote's relevance to the recent discussion. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:49:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Subnet Mask Calculator Comments: To: "chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Chris, I appreciate the effort. So far, I've gotten a computer math calculator that will change binary and hex addresses in to dotted decimal numers (like IP addresses). But it does not give information such as: number of nets number of hosts per net broadcast addresses of each net zero addresses of each net Somone on the Linux Router mailing list told me that they had one and asked me if it was okay to send a 400K file. I told then yes but never got the file. I also looked at the linux source code of the CIDR program that someone posted a message about. I doubt that this would be easily ported to DOS as it seems to make use of networking-specific libraries. I wouldn't want to take you away from more meaningful work but it would be great to have one. Don't sweat it, tho. It's not hard to calulate the stuff by hand it's just a 'would-be-nice' kinda thing. I'll let you know if the guy from the other mailing list ever sends it to me. Thanks. >-----Original Message----- >From: Chris Randle Ýmailto:chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK¨ >Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 5:26 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Subnet Mask Calculator > > >Dear Ed & David (& anyone else interested), > >After your original post some time ago (Ed, IIRC), I started >to write one, but got caught up with other things. > >I'm self-employed, so do occasionally have some spare time. At >the moment I'm at the analysis/quoting stage of another >biggish (for me) s/w project. If you wish me bad luck, and the >potential customer doesn't bite, then I'll carry on with it >and hopefully finish it. > >Just thought I'd mention it - it gives me some incentive to >get on with it! Please let me know if you find an alternative, >then I won't bother! > >---------- > >Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) > >On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Ed Padin wrote: > >> I have been dying to find one! Please, please, please let me >know if you >> succeed. I've toyed with the idea of writing one but just >don't have the >> time. If I had some source code to work with I might be able >to do it. I >> don't want to reinvent the wheel when it comes to the >algorithms involved... >> and besides, my programming skillz are pitiful. >> >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: David Cripps Ýmailto:d-cripps@DIRCON.CO.UK¨ >> >Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 8:18 AM >> >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >> >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Subnet Mask Calculator >> > >> > >> >Hi >> > >> >At the moment I'm studying for Cisco's CCNA and was wondering >> >if anybody >> >knows of a dos based Variable Length Sub-net mask calculator >> >that runs on the >> >HP? >> > >> >All the one's i've found are windoz based :-( >> > >> >Many thanks >> > >> >Dave Cripps > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:25:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Open Letter Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that was the famous Hitler thread killer. Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Laust Brock-Nannestad To: Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Open Letter > *yawn*, let's not have another debate about guns and gun control, > *please*! The list has enough noise as it is. > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Owen Samuelson wrote: > > > "For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our > > streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will > > follow our lead to the future." > > Erm, did you have a point with this quote? if so, I fail to see it, or the > quote's relevance to the recent discussion. > > > Cheers, > > Laust > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 19:40:18 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: D & A Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01BFE2CB.0561D7C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BFE2CB.0561D7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Regarding the discussion about D & A Software...I checked the latest = issue of The Palmtop Paper to see what they are offering now....a blank = sheet of paper will show what I found. I D & A software is selling = something (anything) they are doing a terible job of letting the HP200lx = community know. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BFE2CB.0561D7C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Regarding the discussion about D & = A=20 Software...I checked the latest issue of The Palmtop Paper to see what = they are=20 offering now....a blank sheet of paper will show what I found.  I D = & A=20 software is selling something (anything) they are doing a terible job of = letting=20 the HP200lx community know. 
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BFE2CB.0561D7C0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 00:00:49 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Open Letter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ulrich Boche wrote: > Also, please, stop bragging about the so-called right your second amendment > supposedly gives you to blow your own or other people's brains out with > guns. It makes a lot of people sick, especially people in Europe. My right to own a gun does not give me the right to misuse it nor does it make me want to. It does give me a chance to defend myself. In some ways Europe has less restrictive gun laws that we do. Pardon my enthusiam, every country has national holidays that mean more to its citizens than to others. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 00:00:53 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Open Letter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ed Padin wrote: > BTW: Al Kind is gonna be pissed that the kidz didn't behave while he wuz > gone... tsk,tsk,tsk. Oops... Excellent point. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 22:56:26 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: D & A Software Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 30 Jun 2000 20:12:25 -0400 (EDT) 31m04s ago ... On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Ken London wrote: > Regarding the discussion about D & A Software...I checked the latest > issue of The Palmtop Paper to see what they are offering now....a blank > sheet of paper will show what I found. I D & A software is selling > something (anything) they are doing a terible job of letting the = HP200lx > community know. > D&A makes lots of software for the palmtop. Sadly it seems that ALL the advertisers who supported the Palmtop Paper in the past have either gone belly-up or just stopped placing ads. To see what D&A is about, visit them at: http://www.dasoft.com One product that I use every day is Post/LX - which is what I'm using to send this. Later, Peniel ------------ The usual disclaimer... I have no connection to D&A except as a customer. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml