========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:19:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hotmail_Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hotmail_Steve Subject: Happy New Year! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi List, Y2K just rolled thru Memphis, Tennessee about 15 minutes ago! Happy New Years to all you LX'ers!! Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:29:51 +1300 Reply-To: palmtop@ihug.co.nz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Subject: Re: Happy New Year Comments: To: Bryan Biggers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bryan Yes - I had to grab an old laptop from the cupboard as I couldnt use my 200LX & startac as I am holidaying at the beach and the local cell-site was still overloaded (Its recovered now) you missed the time which was was also out! Are we looking up to scratch now? Cheers John (Well into Y2k) Bryan Biggers wrote: > > Sure you are OK? > The date on your msg was Feb 23, 1999, ha! > Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:11:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Client for eBay (KMM7567211C0KM) In-Reply-To: <200001010217.UAA13388x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Here what I received back from eBay when asking them if they could provide > technical info if someone wanted to design a 200LX client that would work > with their services in case anyone wants to write a LX based eBay client. > > This is the email address for the people who wrote it for the Palm VII. > > jobs@workspot.com What workspot developed was a Palm application AND a proxy server that makes the actual connection to ebay, and returns a simplified version. It seems reasonable that someone could develop a proxy that returns HV compatible pages. On a related note, since lynx works, does anyone use one of the DOS lynx clones? I've read posts here that they don't work, but I read one usenet post from an LXer that uses Bobcat. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:17:51 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Happy New Year! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Y2K just rolled through Elk Mountain, Wyoming. The web is running nicely here. Our electricity didn't skip a lick -- my UPS would have told me. Listening to RealAudio on http://www.gospelcom.net/ccmag/ debunking all the Y2K profiteers. Do you suppose we will hear from the doomsdayer? Bob -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 01:14:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Client for eBay (KMM7567211C0KM) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Kopplin wrote: > On a related note, since lynx works The only thing I have found that Lynx can't do with eBay is sending 'em your credit card number due to the https, but other than that it works fine. It's just not real user friendly for heavy use. Jeff ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 04:14:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nxw988e@TNINET.SE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: New Years Eve Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laust and Sargeant wrote: > Well, no millennium until next year if you ask me, but at least you > could spell it right... > If you ask me, that's a good thing. We get to celebrate the new > = millennium two years in a row and fight about it the whole time. > Biblescientists argue wether Jesus was born the year zero or the year = two,so let's fight about this too,we then can celebrate the new millenium = four years in a row. Today my name is not Lars Hedstroem but Lars Hangover ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:17:38 +0100 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: New Years Eve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Biblescientists argue wether Jesus was born the year zero or the year two,so let's fight about this too,we then can celebrate the new millenium four years in a row. " There was no year zero. There was 3 - 2 - 1 - 1 - 2 - 3 (no trademark of lotus). He was born about autumn 1 B.C. So the real Millennium change is about october 2000. Any y2k test software for October 2000? -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:33:47 +0100 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Y2K profiteers was: Happy New Year! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >debunking all the Y2K profiteers. Do you suppose we will hear from the >doomsdayer? Without them there wouldn't have been this Y2K preparedness. How far to Chernobyl do you live? -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 08:34:35 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mberri01@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Re: Happy New Year! Comments: To: steve_dowell@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, thank you very much from Michigan best wishes for the year 2000. Michael ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:07:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Y2K profiteers was: Happy New Year! >>debunking all the Y2K profiteers. Do you suppose we will hear from >>the doomsdayer? Message-Id: <20000101150727.NAWE28505@Ý12.72.154.220¨> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:07:27 +0000 >Without them there wouldn't have been this Y2K preparedness. >How far to Chernobyl do you live? I agree. Like air traffic controllers and diaster planners everywhere ... they can never be careful enough. And if they do their jobs really well, the customers will never know. - Longden (a happy customer from the US west coast) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:59:46 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Post/lx going slow/freezing when online.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 31 Dec 1999 14:37:37 -0800, A Meshar wrote: > On Fri, 31 Dec 1999 04:36:06 +0100, Martin Bergvill > wrote: > > > When I am online with www/lx and Post/Lx it can freeze for a few > > seconds and then I can move the "cursor" between the folders again. Why > > is this happening? Is the cpu busy with the modem connection or what? > > > > I get this problem when I run www/lx both on the hplx with a V34 pcmcia > > modem and using palrun on a Pentium 133 laptop. But only when I am > > online. > > I am not sure what you are asking. Where is the problem? Is > this a problem? Well. The problem is that I can not move between the folders as fast as I want to move. When I am online I want to be as quick as I can when I choose the messages I want to download. I download a lot of newsgroups headers. I sometimes stay online while I go through the folders and choose the messages I want. The freeze problem prevents me to move as quick as I can in offline mode. Not a big problem but I was just wondering why this happens. It is like it freezes...............and then goes on again..........and then freezes........again.. :-) Not a big problem but it is annoing. I can press the down arrow and Enter and the hp/laptop will carry through this command after a 2 second delay.. Is it just me that has this problem? > Happy New Year, Happy new year to you too.. -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -Palmtop friendly sig... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:59:47 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: New Years Eve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 31 Dec 1999 15:58:39 -0800, David Sargeant wrote: > On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > > Well, no millennium until next year if you ask me, but at least you > > could spell it right... > > If you ask me, that's a good thing. We get to celebrate the new > millennium two years in a row and fight about it the whole time. Yep, My girlfriend will not allow me to state that the millennium does not start until next year :-). As far as she is concerned it starts now. I celebrate(d) the fact that we changed 4 of the numbers. That is surely a event too.. But the world (my girlfriend included) do not want to ackowledge this fact.. It will be fun next year when they all (press included) "discover" that they were wrong and we have a new round with millennium special and all that :-)) -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -Palmtop friendly sig... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:59:49 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Www/lx and internet+more 1/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 31 Dec 1999 14:38:00 -0800, A Meshar wrote: > Martin Bergvill wrote on 31 Dec 1999 01:37:34 > +0100: > > > 1. Is there any point in "tuning"(reducing size) of the Hv.cfg file? I > > start first www and then Post/lx. I can start hv from the External menu > > in Post/lx. I have reduced the post.cfg file to get Hv to work. > > (Post.cfg=6589 (was 7500), www.cfg=1188, hv.cfg=2703) > > Probably. I suspect that when the HV.CFG file comes into > memory it stays there, but I am not 100% sure. Okey. I will try to reduce its size anyway > www "!d:\dos\command.com" Ahh I knew it. I have read this somewhere, but for some reason I could not find my way back to were..sorry Thanks.. > > 3. Is there a "dummies" setup guide to use Whitby's internettools and > > do what I want to do in 2.? I will get me a ethernetcard soon. > > Wrong subject - it is not WWW/LX related :-) ... Yes it is not a Www/lx related question, but this refers to the "+ more" in the subject :-) Whitby reported to the list some time ago that you can use his tools to connect to the internet and then run whatever you like, Post/lx too via the ethernetcapabilities of Post/lx I will look into the Micq soon and then I have to use another internetconnector than Www.exe. Is this correct? I would like to initiate a connection and then check mail/news with Post/lx and then download some pages with Get/Hv and then check if somebody is online on Icq.. If I want to do this I can not use WWw.exe to connect? -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -Palmtop friendly sig... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:07:52 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , SKYHO@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sidney Ho Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: Storm over Europe Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Ulrich Boche commented: > Sidney Ho wrote: >> ... >> According to German >> TV, the highest gust was recorded at 171.5 mph/276 kmh. >> > That seems a bit exaggerated. According to radio and TV reports > here, the highest gust was recorded by the weather station on > the "Feldberg", the highest mountain in the Black Forest at > 215 km/h (133.6 mph). That's bad enough and the damage is > extensive; more trees are damaged than from the big storm we > had in 1990. Could be, but it was so announced on ARD or ZDF on the first day (valid for either Germany or Europe, probably for a weather station on some mountain peak) around 8:00pm Dec. 26. There were a lot of delocalized random gusts rather than like a real hurricane. Anyway, I agree, bad enough. --- Sidney Ho SKYHO@csi.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 17:33:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , SKYHO@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sidney Ho Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: Storm over Europe Comments: cc: Stephan Goeldi Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Stephan Goeldi wrote: >>I had a panoramic view of the storm blowing over the Lake of Lucerne > > Do you live in Switzerland? So Andreas and me are not the last helvetic > LX users? Yes, near Lucerne. I know of one other CH 100lx user, a good friend of mine. There are still a few of us left in the (partly knocked down) woods. > >>Global warming will make unusual storms more regular and a lot worse! > > It was the worst storm for 250 years in Switzerland. Didn't know it was that bad. --- Sidney Ho SKYHO@csi.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:52:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: New Years Eve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Laust and Sargeant wrote: > > > Well, no millennium until next year if you ask me, > but at least you > > could spell it right... > > > If you ask me, that's a good thing. We get to > celebrate the new > millennium two years in a row and > fight about it the whole time. > > > > Biblescientists argue wether Jesus was born the year zero > or the year two,so let's fight about this too,we then c > an celebrate the new millenium four years in a row. On Jan 1st 2000 we have - year 2000 according to the Gregorian calender - year 5760 according to the Jewish calender - year 2542 according to the Buddhist calendar - year 1420 according to the Islamic calender Make your choice :-) > Today my name is not Lars Hedstroem but Lars Hangover You are definitely the only one (g) HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:53:03 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: y2k issue? Hi LX gang, As most of you know, the ytk rollover was generally not a problem. I was at a big bash and used the big display in Jorgen Wallgren's HP Alarm Clock to keep track of the time while dancing. The first time I turned my 200LX on after midnight it came up with the right- dated morning greeting. This morrning I locked up my LX (my own fault) requiring a hard reset (CTRL-SHFT-ON). The contents of the RAM drives survived intact, as usual, but the date was reset to 1/1/80, as sometimes happens. I reset the date and time, and when I started ApptBook it popped up the alarm for my first appointment (back on January 14, 1999). If I exit the SysMan, reset the date to 1/1/80, start up SysMan and ApptBook, exit the SysMan, reset the date to 1/1/2000, and start up SysMan again, I can reproduce this behavior. I guessed this might be something in the mysterious hidden alarm.q that wasn't quite y2k compliant, but got the same behavior after deleting alarm.q. At this point, I don't think it'll be a problem, but wanted to report the odd behavior to the list. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:13:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peter W Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peter W Subject: minor y2k bugs in lxtools/lxbackup, new source available Comments: cc: ed.falk@eng.sun.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just released what I can lxtools-1.1d. Two changes from 1.1c: - lxbackup still uses two digit years for -since, but assumes that years < 80 are in the 21st century - lxdir now outputs two digit values for all years (1.1c and previous displayed "tm_year" values, e.g. 1/Jan/2000 => "01-01-100") The tar archive name is "lxtools-1.1d.tar.gz", file size 29657, md5 checksum 19b5826005fed0436f3daa10ea2522c8 http://www.tux.org/~peterw/LXFileman/info.htm Happy New Year! -Peter ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:27:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nxw988e@TNINET.SE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Y2K profiteers was: Happy New Year! Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >debunking all the Y2K profiteers. Do you suppose we will hear from>the = doomsdayer? > I just discovered that my video doesn't work.It starts up but when I = play a tape it turns off after about a minute.Same thing happens if I = again press the playbutton. The video is a Samsung and is five years old,but I have almost never used = it. Lars Hedstroem/Sweden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:16:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Uncle Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Uncle Paul Subject: Re: New Years Eve In-Reply-To: <200001011652.LAA29994@spamraaa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Excerpt Original Message----- On Jan 1st 2000 we have - year 2000 according to the Gregorian calendar - year 5760 according to the Jewish calendar - year 2542 according to the Buddhist calendar - year 1420 according to the Islamic calendar Make your choice :-) -----End Excerpt Original Message----- - year 4736 according to the Chinese calendar Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:23:24 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Slightly OT: WP51 Macro programming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To save keystrokes in WordPerfect 5.1 on my palmtop, I want to make a macro that will automatically do file exporting with just a keystroke. Is there any way in a WP51 macro to allow it to accept input from the user in the middle of the macro and then use that to continue? In this case, that would mean typing in the file name to be exported. For instance, if I was exporting a file called palmtop.doc, I might want to hit a macro key to export it as plain DOS text as hplx.txt and then as Generic WP (without the hard returns) as hplx.doc. I hope this makes sense. Does anybody know if it's possible? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 21:54:21 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Slightly OT: WP51 Macro programming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > To save keystrokes in WordPerfect 5.1 on my palmtop, I want to make a > macro that will automatically do file exporting with just a keystroke. > Is there any way in a WP51 macro to allow it to accept input from the = user > in the middle of the macro and then use that to continue? In this = case, > that would mean typing in the file name to be exported. For instance, = if > I was exporting a file called palmtop.doc, I might want to hit a macro = key > to export it as plain DOS text as hplx.txt and then as Generic WP = (without > the hard returns) as hplx.doc. I hope this makes sense. Does anybody > know if it's possible? As far as I did understand what you want to do, I would use the "Pause" command within the macro. Regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:58:45 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: My first computer: we all must be sick! Comments: To: Feher Tamas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My ZX81 is Y2K compliant!!! Why? It has no concept of a date datatype and has no internal clock! Praise the simplicity of these little machine!!! ;-D Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feher Tamas" To: Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 2:24 AM Subject: My first computer: we all must be sick! > Hello LXers, > > The first computer I used was a Sinclair ZX81. This high- > tech device was smuggled into Hungary by the staff of > Orion, the TV manufacturing company, where my mother used > to work. In the early 80's Hungary, as a WARPAC country > was fully COCOM listed and almost no electronics could > be exported to us legally (IBM was somewhat of exception) > > This ZX81 had external 16KB memory expansion, but the > contacts were so bad, that it freeze every now and then. > As you could only save to/load from audio tape, noone > dared to use the expansion and the machine was limited > to 1KB. It also had a small thermal printer, nice one. > > Problem was, if you used both add-ons, printer must have > been attached IN BETWEEN the computer and the 16K add-on, > so you could not solder in the ram expansion box solving > contact error crashes. > > Zero-travel foil keys went wrong gradually and this rende- > red the machine useless because of the unique basic langu- > age shortcut system it used. I couldn't find a replacement > keyboard so far. I still have the machine in my collection. > > I tend to think that IBM PC rulez, probably the best thing > 20th century brought. Also, it is likely that we, HPLX-L > members, are all sick to speak about "my first computer" > at the dawn of 2000. > > If we think Y2K problem will end the computer age, we > should speak about ball&wires "calculator" used in Russia. > If we think Y2K hysteria is unfounded, we may speak about > iPIII-700 and WinCE, but ROM-BASIC and DOS, blah... > > Have a happy new Year2000! Regards: Tamas Feher > > ____________________________________________________________ > EGON - az ingyenes levelezorendszer http://egon.gyaloglo.hu > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:02:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: FS & Fluff & Stuff Comments: To: List OB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I ran across a web page full of people that had vintage genuine IBM PCs, XTs, ATs, etc., but I can't find it. Ring a bell with anyone? I'm thinking of getting rid of a few computers (above mentioned) including an early Mac & serial Imagewriter. I've got more old parts not listed. Anyone wanna trade any of the above historical items for an 200LX or accessories? That goes for anything on my web page. If my web page does not work on you screen, let me know. Bob -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:33:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My first programming experience was with a Texas Instruments calculator = in High School in the early 1980s. Around 1984 my parents got an Apple ¨Ýe with = 128K of memory and an ImageWriter printer. The first time I every stayed up = all night was when I typed my first term paper with foot notes on it. It = took me longer than I had anticipated to learn the wordprocessor program . I taught myself BASIC and 6502 processor assembly language for the = Apple¨Ý. In college I wrote a shareware program to let people take advantage of the Imagewriter printer's custom font capability. It even included a nice = Greek letter font. I also wrote a custom print program for one of the math professors so he could "grab" any graphics screen and dump it to the = printer. I bought my own Apple ¨Ýgs in college and it remained my primary computer = until a sad day in 1995 when both the 50 Meg hard drive and my backup disks = went bad. Since I had been using a HP95LX and then a 100LX since 1993, my next = desktop was an IBM. I wanted something compatible with my palmtop . Since the ¨Ýgs "incident" I make really compulsive, redundant backups. = My 32Meg DS palmtop is backed-up to two "spare" 200LX's kept in seperate locations. I also back it up to my desktop and do tape backups (kept off = site) of the desktop. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:33:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Www/lx and internet+more 1/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > 1. Is there any point in "tuning"(reducing size) of the Hv.cfg file? I believe that the whole cfg file is loaded into memory. If you strip = out the comments, it will take up that much less memory. I do this, but keep a commented version around to refer back to when making changes. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:33:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Www/lx and internet+more 2/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > 4. I have a Psion Dacom V34 Gold Card V34+Fax. When I insert it I get > "Card battery low" This is normal? I can kill this message with killmsg > without getting into problems? I had a Fax/Modem card that did this. It is fine to ignore the message, = or kill it with killmsg. > 7. Because this is fax modem I of course wants to use it's fax > cababilities. What software is the best? > ..and the last one.. I use SSFaxer, but only rarely. See if they have a copy at www.palmtop.ne= t > 9. I will buy some Ni-Mh batteries soon. How should I charge them? I charge mine in the palmtop. I have an appointment that runs a program = called Charge-It! each night at 11pm. Charge-it! checks to see if my batteries = need charging and charges them (if I remember to plug in the AC adaptor). = ABC/LX is an easier way to accomplish the same thing, but ABC/LX is commercial and Charge-It! is freeware. See www.dasoft.com for ABC/LX (and lots of other = good stuff) and see www.palmtop.net for Charge-It! (plus even more good = stuff). Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:33:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Usage Models for two HP 200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Santa dropped off another HP 200LX DS/8MB unit (thanks Thaddeus) and I > have a question on usage. Now that I have two (2) LX's are there any > list members using two (2) LX's on a daily basis? I often bring a second palmtop along to occupy my son at events that = might bore him. I use a tiny program called setvol.com to kill the speaker so none = of the games makes any disturbing noise. My primary machine is a 32Meg DS 200LX. The "alternate" is only 8 Meg = DS, but has a large flash card. I have a batch file that makes a backup of the = 32Meg machine onto the flash card from the 8Meg machine. This was I always = have a "hot" backup of my primary machine. If the 32Meg machine ever dies, I = can grab the 8Meg one and go right on without a problem. Steve Carder ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:07:05 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Pre-purchase questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Christopher mailto:bc@CHISP.NET asked about the Iomega Clik drive. Several people asked Iomega about DOS drivers and were told that there would be none forthcoming from Iomega. It became a moot issue when other list members tried to stick a Clik drive in the LX and found that it was too tight a fit. The power consumption is also a concern. The Clik drive probably draws more than 150mA which is above the speed limit of the LX. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:43:21 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: Post/lx going slow/freezing when online.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had exactly this problem when I was connected to Our LAN with www/lx and using telnet/lx, hv or post/lx. The latest www/lx at www.dasoft.com fixed this problem for me. > The freeze problem prevents me to move as quick as I can in offline > mode. Not a big problem but I was just wondering why this happens. It > is like it freezes...............and then goes on again..........and > then freezes........again.. :-) Not a big problem but it is annoing. > > I can press the down arrow and Enter and the hp/laptop will carry > through this command after a 2 second delay.. Is it just me that has > this problem? /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 02:23:56 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Occasionally happens here. Subject: Re: Usage Models for two HP 200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Carder wrote: > > Santa dropped off another HP 200LX DS/8MB unit (thanks Thaddeus) and I > > have a question on usage. Now that I have two (2) LX's are there any > > list members using two (2) LX's on a daily basis? > > I often bring a second palmtop along to occupy my son at events that might bore > him. I use a tiny program called setvol.com to kill the speaker so none of the > games makes any disturbing noise. > > My primary machine is a 32Meg DS 200LX. The "alternate" is only 8 Meg DS, but > has a large flash card. I have a batch file that makes a backup of the 32Meg > machine onto the flash card from the 8Meg machine. This was I always have a > "hot" backup of my primary machine. If the 32Meg machine ever dies, I can grab > the 8Meg one and go right on without a problem. > > Steve Carder I'm a software & hardware type guy, so I'm often using more than one machine at once. When doing hardware work, I edit a PC board design on one machine while editing the parts list on another, with a third machine (the current 200LX) reminding me to make my appointments. When doing software development, I compile on one machine, test on another, and usually take "how I 'meant' to do it" notes on the third (and the 4th machine's the current HP in PDA mode.) Nice to be able to format a floppy for the customer's upgrade without having to wait for the format to happen (can do something on a fast separate machine at the same time.) Part of the reason for this: If the tested code has a bug and eats the file system on the "testbed" machine, the source code's not destroyed. This is a GOOD thing... I plan to replace the parts list / note-taking machine with an HP, fairly soon ("Programmers' Trance" is a serious job-related problem for some people A PDA solves that.) Mark -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:34:27 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit exactly 10 years ago i got my 286 ibm-at with an amasing 40 million byte hd.... two weeks later i had my first virus - called "stoned" - had to format all of the 40meg because of some bloody Swede (who wrote it) btw. xtgold got through y2k with flying colours - it treats 00 files as newer than 99 files! can the one who bought the lx off BOB1 make me an offer for re-sale ;)) Nathalie, who lost her 200LX to a greedy postal worker ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 03:07:47 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Chris Yeager Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Yeager Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud Stoned was destined for Ausy security system as a old core solution. __ __ ( _\----/_ )------------------------------------+ |\ _\ /_ / From The Desk Of: | | \ _\/_ /_ _ Chris Yeager | | |_____/_/ /| cyeager@calweb.com | | ( (_)__)J-) Programmer / Contractor | | ( /`., / +------------------------------------+ ----- Original Message ----- From: Nathalie Bugeaud To: Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 2:34 AM Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers > exactly 10 years ago i got my 286 ibm-at with an amasing 40 million byte > hd.... > two weeks later i had my first virus - called "stoned" - had to format all > of the 40meg because of some bloody Swede (who wrote it) > > btw. xtgold got through y2k with flying colours - it treats 00 files as > newer than 99 files! > > can the one who bought the lx off BOB1 make me an offer > for re-sale ;)) > > Nathalie, who lost her 200LX to a greedy postal worker > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 06:48:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Pre-purchase questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ed Keefe wrote: > > Bob Christopher mailto:bc@CHISP.NET asked about the Iomega Clik drive. > > Several people asked Iomega about DOS drivers and were told that there would > be none forthcoming from Iomega. It became a moot issue when other list > members tried to stick a Clik drive in the LX and found that it was too > tight a fit. The power consumption is also a concern. The Clik drive > probably draws more than 150mA which is above the speed limit of the LX. > .ed. I once went to Iomegas homepage to check. Out of my head power consumption is about twice what palmi can bear. So I dumped the idea of buying a click drive. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:56:19 +0100 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: New Years Eve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >On Jan 1st 2000 we have > > - year 2000 according to the Gregorian calendar > - year 5760 according to the Jewish calendar > - year 2542 according to the Buddhist calendar > - year 1420 according to the Islamic calendar > - year 4736 according to the Chinese calendar - year 6025 according to the bible calendar ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:48:02 +0100 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Slightly OT: WP51 Macro programming Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >To save keystrokes in WordPerfect 5.1 on my palmtop, I want to make a >macro that will automatically do file exporting with just a keystroke. >Is there any way in a WP51 macro to allow it to accept input from the user >in the middle of the macro and then use that to continue? There exist two macro commands in WP to do that: {PAUSE} and {PAUSE KEY} If you use PAUSE you can enter a string. When you hit Enter, the Input ends. This is the right command for you. The PAUSE KEY command is used to wait until a defined key ist pressed. e.g. {PAUSE KEY}x~ waits until x is pressed. Don't forget to input the Return command after the {PAUSE} command. Your Return is understood as finishing the input. WP needs the Return key after that. You can do that with Ctrl-V, Return This inserts the Return-code -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:58:04 +0100 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: minor y2k bugs in lxtools/lxbackup, new source available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > - lxbackup still uses two digit years for -since, but assumes that > years < 80 are in the 21st century The 21st century starts next year. -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 07:29:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nxw988e@TNINET.SE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nat wrote: > two weeks later i had my first virus - called "stoned" - had to format = all > of the 40meg because of some bloody Swede (who wrote it) Well,that wasn't me > Nathalie, who lost her 200LX to a greedy postal worker I don't think it was a greedy postal worker,if you had sent it from or = through a poor country then it might have been so. (BTW,to the englishspeaking guys:can I say "it might have been so"?Accordi= ng to the grammar it is wrong to say "it have"but it feels wrong to say = "it might has been") Have you issued a warrant for it in the France Post Office Administration?= And they in turn in the Us Post Office Adm.? Don't give up that easy. Lars Hedstroem/Sweden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 05:03:03 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden Loo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers Comments: To: nxw988e@TNINET.SE "Might have been so" is correct. I'm not sure about the grammatical specifics, but the "might" changes the rules slightly. Maybe someone else can comment on the mechanics involved. You can say "it might be so", or "it is so", but not "it be so" (unless you're from the poor inner city areas). Likewise "it has" is correct, but adding the "might" to make it "it might has" is wrong. BTW, I'm sure Nathalie isn't "giving up that easily". Probably a pre-emptive move on her part in case worse comes to worse. In any case, I sure all of us wish good-luck to her on re-uniting with her 200LX. - Longden ---------- From: Lars Hedstroem To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers Date: Sunday, January 02, 2000 4:29 AM ....... I don't think it was a greedy postal worker,if you had sent it from or through a poor country then it might have been so. (BTW,to the englishspeaking guys:can I say "it might have been so"?According to the grammar it is wrong to say "it have"but it feels wrong to say "it might has been") Have you issued a warrant for it in the France Post Office Administration?And they in turn in the Us Post Office Adm.? Don't give up that easy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 05:15:58 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: FLUFF Comments: To: Chris Yeager MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii for a second I thought you wuz Chuck Yeager. sorry bout dat Happy New Yeer. --- Chris Yeager wrote: > __ __ > ( _\----/_ )------------------------------------+ > |\ _\ /_ / From The Desk Of: | > | \ _\/_ /_ _ Chris Yeager | > | |_____/_/ /| cyeager@calweb.com | > | ( (_)__)J-) Programmer / Contractor | > | ( /`., / +------------------------------------+ > ===== > > o__ regards from > > _.>/)_ Thailand. Tooling > > (_) \(_) around lookie, lookie Better to BE, than to have. Woman, that's warm... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 00:18:15 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paul Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Johnson Subject: Re: Pre-purchase questions Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Bob, I think it has been reported here that there is no DOS driver for the Clik drive. A pity. But it is possible to connect an Iomega 100MB Zip drive (the parrallel port version), using a PCMCIA parrallel port card. Not exactly pocketable but it might serve your needs. Before you go racing out and just buying any old card and trying to make it work, either ask here again and you might get someone whos done it, or read the HP Palmtop Paper July/August 1998 page 29, and HP Palmtop Paper May/June 1999 page 8. Apparently its easy to do once you know how. Paul. > I will be ordering a new HP 200LX in the next few days. Before I do I have > posed a few questions off list to some of you asking for clarification on > specs and advise in general. Thank you one and all for your support. > > One thing I am wondering about is the Iomega Click PCMCIA II card disk > with interchangeable 40mb disks. This would seem to be the ideal companion > for mass storage on the 200LX. I went and looked at it today and noted that > the requirements on the box stated Windows 95/98 OS and that the drivers > for the unit were on a CD-ROM in the package. Has anyone inquired of Iomega > if they have or will have a DOS 5.0 driver setup so that the Click can be used > on older laptops and palmtops? Has anyone tried to get one of these units > and running on the 200LX? Any reports? Thanks and Happy New Year one and all. > > Bob > > Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA > email mailto:bc@chisp.net website http://chisp.net/~bc > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:46:24 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Buying backupunit from the Us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am in the process of buying myself a backup hplx. I have a deal going with somebody in the Us. I have some questions: Since the hplx I already have is a norwegian model how are the keyboard layout on the Us version? I have norwegian special characters on Fn + "K, O and 7". I do not care about the overlay, but can I get the characthers through the rom software? Is it the same "inside"? I can when the hplx I use now dies just change the keyboard overlay.. Is there any differences between the Us model and the norwegian model that I should know about? The unit I am buying is probably a year old. The screen on the machine has a few columns of blanked out vertical lines. Is this possible to get fixed under warranty? If it can be fixed under warranty is the warranty worldwide so I can get it fixed here in Norway? I guess I need a orginal recipt..anything more? TIA -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:17:54 +0900 Reply-To: toshiki@j.email.ne.jp Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Toshiki Sasabe Subject: X-Finder R.10 and R.11 Beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beta test version of X-Finder R.11 is now available from: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/index.htm The current version (R.10) with English documentation is also available >from the same place (also available from SUPER soon). Since this R.11 is a beta test version, it in not fully tested. Join the test and report the results. Thanks, Toshiki Sasabe toshiki@j.eamil.ne.jp (preferred) toshis@mba.sphere.ne.jp ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 08:31:17 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Marks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Marks Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 30 Dec 1999 to 31 Dec 1999 (#2000-1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On a side note I am a frustrated Programmer and I suspect I could > finally have the room to load my copies of MS C, Assembler, CodeView, > Borland C, C+, Pascal, etc. I've done quite a lot of programming on the 200lx. I haven't found a good symbolic debugger that will run on it except Symdeb that came with old versions of Masm in the days before codeview. Used correctly it will let you do symbolic debugging of code produced by Masm, Tasm, MSC and Turbo C. It also supports source level debugging with both MSC and Turbo C. It's very similar in it's operation to Dos's Debug, but with a few extra commands. It works well on the 200lx. The others I've tried and had no luck with are Codeview, Turbo Debug, the debugger that used to come with the registered PCC, D86 (works if you stay out of graphics modes), Power Trace that comes with Power C, an early Watcom debugger and a number of others whose names I don't remember, that my company bought to try out but never really used. Some worked a little but would soon crash and lock up the computer. Most wouldn't work at all. One or 2 of them worked (like D86) in text modes but locked up if you went into graphics mode. I think Power Trace might have been like that but I'm not sure. But once you learn the ins and outs of Symdeb it works very well and is stable and there aren't any surprises. It also supports mode changing from CGA to text during breakpoints. It's just a little primitive. But, then, so am I. :) This is the only class of programs I've found that don't work well on the 200lx. Some TSR's also don't work but many do. Debuggers just don't like it. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 01:27:43 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Rhoades Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Rhoades Subject: Re: New Years Eve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stephan Goeldi >>On Jan 1st 2000 we have >> >> - year 2000 according to the Gregorian calendar >> - year 5760 according to the Jewish calendar >> - year 2542 according to the Buddhist calendar >> - year 1420 according to the Islamic calendar >> - year 4736 according to the Chinese calendar > >- year 6025 according to the bible calendar What do you mean by this - isn't the "bible" (Old Testament?) calendar going to be the same as the Jewish calendar? Regards, Phil. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:13:12 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge" Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers In-Reply-To: <000901bf5511$9b271ce0$6a00a8c0@cyeager> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII my tuppence worth... A slide rule in 1975, sinclair programmable calulator (31 steps if I remember) in 1976 (I think - not sure now), followed by a TI-58 in 79 then an Acorn BBC model B in 1980/1 (gave that to a school a few years back), an HP-85B - anyone remember these fine micro's (just got rid of that 3 months ago), an original IBM PC-XT (with a 10MB hard disk) in 83/4, an HP71B (my first palmtop ;-) ), and so it goes on...... Best regards, Condor _\\|//_ ( O-O ) -------------------------o00--(_)--00o--------------------------------------+ Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge Software/Hardware Engineering Supervisor, | Middle East and North Africa region | | Schlumberger Geco-Prakla, Gatwick, UK | Voice : Ý44¨ (0) 1293 55 6257 | Fax : Ý44¨ (0) 1293 55 6470 | Office: condor@slb.com | Home : condor@mistral.co.uk | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:05:39 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , smoore Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: smoore Subject: PCMCIA Disks are Available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have (9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are in excellent condition. They have only been used a very few times on testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for $65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! I also have (3) 20 Meg name brand Sandisks for sale. I sell (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for $40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. and I sell (2) 20 MEg Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping and You can send payment to my address at: Scott Moore 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street Beaverton, Or 97006 I will email you back the day I receive your payment and let you know that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have been really great. Thanks alot! and Happy! New Year! Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:43:34 -0800 Reply-To: dr7zyq@nidlink.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David B. Rogers" Organization: is one cool old dude!! Subject: Re: PCMCIA Disks are Available Comments: To: smoore MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott, I am on the list for two of the 20 meg cards for $70.00 total; please convert that to two of the Sandisk cards; I will include an extra $10.00. Please confirm and I will get the money order off to you Monday. Thanks, David Rogers 1223 Powell Rd. St. Maries ID 83861 smoore wrote: > > I have (9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are > in excellent condition. They have only been used a very few times on > testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg > PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for > $65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! I also have (3) > 20 Meg name brand Sandisks for sale. I sell (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for > $40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. and I sell (2) 20 MEg > Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping and You can send payment to my > address at: > > Scott Moore > 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street > Beaverton, Or 97006 > > I will email you back the day I receive your payment and let you know > that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I > receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on > Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you > are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has > been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have > been really great. Thanks alot! and Happy! New Year! Scott > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:26:02 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: New Years Eve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2 Jan 2000 04:04:23 -0800, Stephan Goeldi wrote: > >On Jan 1st 2000 we have > > > > - year 2000 according to the Gregorian calendar > > - year 5760 according to the Jewish calendar > > - year 2542 according to the Buddhist calendar > > - year 1420 according to the Islamic calendar > > - year 4736 according to the Chinese calendar > - year 6025 according to the bible calendar - year 1 after I got my first hplx(700) according to my calender :-)) -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -Palmtop friendly sig... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:26:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2 Jan 2000 05:03:13 -0800, Longden Loo wrote: > BTW, I'm sure Nathalie isn't "giving up that easily". Probably a > pre-emptive move on her part in case worse comes to worse. In any case, I > sure all of us wish good-luck to her on re-uniting with her 200LX. Yes I hope she gets it back or a new one soon. I sent my hplx to Thaddeus for a upgrade 22.11.99. I got it back on 28.12.99. My life paused for over a month :-). Thanks Thaddeus for great service! It was not the best time of the year to send something with snailmail because of the high voulume before christmas. My Hplx only had a "touch and go" at Thaddeus..the rest of the time it was in the hands of the postalworkers. I will not ever again be without my hplx. Therefor I am now getting myself a backupunit..hope that everything works out okey for Nathalie as soon as possible.. -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -Palmtop friendly sig... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:26:04 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Post/lx going slow/freezing when online.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2 Jan 2000 01:44:03 -0800, Tomas Moberg wrote: > I had exactly this problem when I was connected to Our LAN with www/lx > and using telnet/lx, hv or post/lx. > The latest www/lx at www.dasoft.com fixed this problem for me. I think that I have the latest version of both Www.exe and post/lx. I have version 2.2e of Post/lx and version 2.1e of Www.exe. I think that the delays comes with fixed spaces. The length that it works fine are the same.. Everything else checks out fine.. > > > The freeze problem prevents me to move as quick as I can in offline > > mode. Not a big problem but I was just wondering why this happens. It > > is like it freezes...............and then goes on again..........and > > then freezes........again.. :-) Not a big problem but it is annoing. > > > > I can press the down arrow and Enter and the hp/laptop will carry > > through this command after a 2 second delay.. Is it just me that has > > this problem? > > /tomas moberg > Uppsala > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -Palmtop friendly sig... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 19:29:10 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 1 Jan 2000 20:34:15 -0800, Steve Carder wrote: > Since the ¨Ýgs "incident" I make really compulsive, redundant backups. My > 32Meg DS palmtop is backed-up to two "spare" 200LX's kept in seperate > locations. I also back it up to my desktop and do tape backups (kept off site) > of the desktop. You are a bit more extreme than me :-)) I usually take a backup every night from my 8mb ds machine to my 24 mb flashcard. Then I insert the card in my girlfriends laptop and move the contents of the flash to my desktop through my network. Then I use the desktops cd burner to make a copy of the files to cd. I take a copy from flashcard to desktop approx 2 times pr week. And copy to cdburner once every week (a long with a lot of other things) I will soon get myself a backup hplx too. The only week point is that I do not store the backup's at a different location. Maybe I could connect my father to the network too. Its only about 100 meters.. Does anybody have any experience with ethernetnetwork (Tp) over this distance in a climat which is below 0 celsius most of the year? Is the distance too long or what? -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -Palmtop friendly sig... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 20:56:16 +0100 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Fluff: New Years Eve Comments: To: Phil Rhoades MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>On Jan 1st 2000 we have >>> >>> - year 2000 according to the Gregorian calendar >>> - year 5760 according to the Jewish calendar >>> - year 2542 according to the Buddhist calendar >>> - year 1420 according to the Islamic calendar >>> - year 4736 according to the Chinese calendar >> >>- year 6025 according to the bible calendar > > >What do you mean by this - isn't the "bible" (Old Testament?) calendar going >to be the same as the Jewish calendar? Doesn't seem so. There is not only one kind of jewish people. Think of: the orthodox church has christmas at another date. Why? For the jewish people, there is not only the Old Testament (Thorah) but the Talmud too. For the muslims there is not only the Qur'an, but the Hadith and the Sharia. For the catholics there is the Catechism as an addon. If you take only the pure bible, you get 6025 years. If you are interested, I can send you the calculations, that lead to 6025 years. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 14:12:54 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Holiga Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Holiga Subject: Re: PCMCIA Disks are Available Comments: To: smoore MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Scott: I'm new to this so please be gentle with me... I have a 200LX, and I want to know: 1) Do both of these disks fit my palmtop? 2) Where do they get their power? If from the palmtop, how does this affect battery life? My preference is: 2 Sandisks, or if not available, 2 of the others If necessary, I'll take one of either. If you acknowledge this msg, I'll send you a postal money order tomorrow morning via Priority Mail. Thanks, Dan Holiga smoore wrote: > I have (9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are > in excellent condition. They have only been used a very few times on > testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg > PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for > $65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! I also have (3) > 20 Meg name brand Sandisks for sale. I sell (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for > $40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. and I sell (2) 20 MEg > Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping and You can send payment to my > address at: > > Scott Moore > 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street > Beaverton, Or 97006 > > I will email you back the day I receive your payment and let you know > that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I > receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on > Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you > are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has > been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have > been really great. Thanks alot! and Happy! New Year! Scott > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Jan 0100 17:45:19 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Pre-purchase questions In-Reply-To: <000001bf54ea$59d56160$7e2fb4d1@ed01> from "Ed Keefe" at Jan 1, 0 10:07:05 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Several people asked Iomega about DOS drivers and were told that there would > be none forthcoming from Iomega. It became a moot issue when other list > members tried to stick a Clik drive in the LX and found that it was too > tight a fit. The power consumption is also a concern. The Clik drive > probably draws more than 150mA which is above the speed limit of the LX. Just a thought... except for the driver matter, these other problems would be readily solved with the DoubleSlot adaptor. Admitedly, the driver problem is a show-stopper... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Jan 0100 18:03:39 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: putenv help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm working on a small application for the palmtop that I had hoped to have ready by now. But in trying to clean it up a little, I've run into a quirk with the Turbo C "putenv" function. Do any of you programming experts know any hints on using this function? What happens is that I pass a string, like VAR=abcxyz, yet this environment variable isn't being set, neither by the SET command after program termination nor by a subsequent getenv() call from inside the program. As for the application, it's a silly little program I've been wanting to write for some time now - called OWAAT (One Word At A Time). It takes a text file and presents it to the user at the center of the screen, you guessed it, one word at a time. You can vary the WPM rate, eventually specify different fonts (I'm using the PAL library). I haven't researched this very much, but a coworker years back told be about a technique he found on the internet where one can reportedly read and comprehend much faster this way compared to the traditional left-to-right way of reading. Eliminates the head/eyeball scanning, I suppose. Anyway, I have the program almost ready to go. If I can't get the environment variables working soon, I'll resort to a .CFG file instead. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:07:07 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tech Support Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tech Support Subject: Re: PCMCIA Disks are Available Comments: To: Dan Holiga In-Reply-To: <386FCD65.9773EF78@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:12 PM 1/2/00 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Scott: >I'm new to this so please be gentle with me... >I have a 200LX, and I want to know: >1) Do both of these disks fit my palmtop? >2) Where do they get their power? If from > the palmtop, how does this affect battery > life? The PCMCIA cards get their power from the main batteries. I have a 10MB Epson FLASH card (Sandisk OEM). Works great for me, I get good battery life, considering I also use NiMH batteries instead of alkalines (saves a lot in battery costs). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:12:22 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paul Khoury Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Khoury Subject: Using the infrared port in DOS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is there any way to use the infrared port in DOS, or only in Application Manager? Thanks, Paul ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:15:37 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Marks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Marks Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 31 Dec 1999 to 1 Jan 2000 (#2000-2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The newsgroup alt.folklore.computers is a pretty active discussion of old computers of all types, from the early mainframes to home computers like the apple and timex, etc. Also there are discussions of such things as the history of cpu's or modems or keyboards or mice or lightpens or various computer companies, etc. It has a fairly high noise content but also a lot of really good (or misleading) information from people who were there and from people who just heard rumors. It's a lot of fun to read. Barry From: Bob Meyer Subject: FS & Fluff & Stuff I ran across a web page full of people that had vintage genuine IBM PCs, XTs, ATs, etc., but I can't find it. Ring a bell with anyone? I'm thinking of getting rid of a few computers (above mentioned) including an early Mac & serial Imagewriter. I've got more old parts not listed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:42:50 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers Longden Loo writes: > "Might have been so" is correct. > > I'm not sure about the grammatical specifics, but the "might" changes the > rules slightly. Maybe someone else can comment on the mechanics involved. I think "it had been" is past progressive tense, and adding the "might" (a modal auxiliary, according to my dictionary) converts the verb phrase to a subjunctive equivalent--comparable to the subjunctive mood. I looked up the root verb (be) and only succeeded in bewildering myself. And I coulda been a contenda! Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 05:00:55 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Using the infrared port in DOS Comments: To: Paul Khoury MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Is there any way to use the infrared port in DOS, or only > in Application Manager? I believe, Tom Rundel of accis fame wrote a dos program to drive the HP little IR printer from the 95/100/200. I think there is also a remote controller that was dos and not exm. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 00:58:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Old game MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, first I wish you all a happy new year! In an old diskette box I recently found a 5.25" disk with an old game I loved - and now I'd love to play it on the LX. But is's a _very_ mysterious diskette: The game only starts, when I _boot_ my PC with this diskette (yes, even on my K6-233 this game works!) It's the Game J-Bird 1983 by Orion Software, Author: Greg Kuperberg. If I try to access the diskette in any way from DOS, I get an error message saying 'drive B: not ready - cancel, retry, error' (not original, since translated from German to English). So I'm not able to access the disk in any way to look what's on it or to copy it. Does anyone of you know what this could be? Maybe a bootable ROM-Basic for an old Commodore or so with the Game in BASIC or something like this? TIA daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 14:25:33 +0800 Reply-To: JIMMY TAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JIMMY TAN Subject: Re: My first computer: we all must be sick! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My first computer was the Sinclair ZX Spectrum. That was 15 years ago. It still lives today - in my 200LX! Thanks to a Spectrum Emulator I can now do some of the things that I could only dream of when I was kid, eg. take the role of Ripley and kick some Alien butts while catching a bus! Happy Y2K! (I mean minus the bug) Jimmy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 08:10:16 MEST Reply-To: stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Old game MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >In an old diskette box I recently found a 5.25" disk with an old game I >loved - and now I'd love to play it on the LX. > >But is's a _very_ mysterious diskette: >The game only starts, when I _boot_ my PC with this diskette (yes, even >on my K6-233 this game works!) Try it with FDFormat. I found an old game diskette-image which was only expandable to a 5.25" fdd. I have no 5.25" fdd drive available. So I formatted a 3.5" HD FDD with the 360 option of FDFormat. I loaded FDRead and formattet the diskette as a 360KB 5.25" drive. It worked. -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:23:57 -0800 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Old game Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds like an old copy protection system. Daniel Hertrich wrote: > But is's a _very_ mysterious diskette: > The game only starts, when I _boot_ my PC with this diskette (yes, even > on my K6-233 this game works!) > > If I try to access the diskette in any way from DOS, I get an error > message saying 'drive B: not ready - cancel, retry, error' > (not original, since translated from German to English). > > So I'm not able to access the disk in any way to look what's on it or > to copy it. > > Does anyone of you know what this could be? Maybe a bootable ROM-Basic > for an old Commodore or so with the Game in BASIC or something like this? > > TIA > daniel > -- > > Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de > homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net > telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 01:02:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Louis Di Fazio Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Louis Di Fazio Subject: CES Show Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi all, Just wondering if any fellow LXers are going to the Consumer Electronics Show later this week in Las Vegas. Being that I live in Vegas, I will be attending. Any one else? Louis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 04:48:02 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Khoury Comments: To: Paul Khoury In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000102171222.0079f100@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Paul, I am new to the hplx-l and saw your post. About 10 years ago I completed a family history which included my mother's father's side of the family. Their surname was Koory, spelling changed from Khoury. They immigrated to the US around 1907 to San Francisco from Beit Lahia, Lebanon which at that time was part of Syria. Any of this sound familiar? Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA email mailto:bc@chisp.net website http://chisp.net/~bc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 04:58:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Apologies Comments: To: Paul Khoury Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My apologies. Obviously, my prior post was intended to be off list. My computer seems to be doing fine with the Y2K fix, but I'm not sure about me :) Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA email mailto:bc@chisp.net website http://chisp.net/~bc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 07:36:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mitchell Hamm Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mitchell Hamm Subject: HP's Millenium Humor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If this has been covered, my apologies... It seems that the HP design team had Y2K in mind back when they designed the 200LX. My unit popped up with a 11:59PM appointment on December 31, 1999 that said: "Don't pass out yet!" Those guys crack me up. :) Happy Y2K from Palmtop.Net! -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:01:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Malka Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Malka Subject: DOS genealogy programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For years I have used an excellent DOS genealogy program called Family Scrap Book on my LX200. Unfortunately it is not Y2k compatible and will not accept dates past 99. The author has dissappeared and no one can find him. I therefore need another DOS based genealogy program, which is a shame because this one was excellent. Anyone have suggestions for a good DOS based genealogy database program? I have FTM for windows. Anyone know where the FTM for DOS can be found" Does the PAF DOS software run well on the LX200? Any other suggestions? Thanks. Jeff Malka ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 08:17:54 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Web Via Email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable About 5 or 6 years ago there were still some functioning servers that allowed one to email a URL and in turn the server would mail back the = text version of that URL. Does anyone know if there is still a server such as this that is still in existence and fuctioning? Jeff *-------- Deputy Jeff Johns - W4JEF --------* | Jefferson County Sheriff's Department | | Birmingham, Alabama USA | | Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key | *--- Address all complaints to /dev/null ---* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 08:23:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Marks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Marks Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 1 Jan 2000 to 2 Jan 2000 (#2000-3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Santa dropped off another HP 200LX DS/8MB unit (thanks Thaddeus) and I > have a question on usage. Now that I have two (2) LX's are there any > list members using two (2) LX's on a daily basis? I'm not sure if this is what you had in mind, but I have a 2 meg 200lx that I carry with me a lot of the time. It's mostly for programming now that I've retired. I keep my old 1 meg 200lx by the phone next to my computer and I use it like a roladex. I store all my phone numbers and passwords and I make notes and I even use the appointment calander. I don't have enough appointments now that I need the alarm, but I need to check dates and times to be sure I remember them correctly. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:35:02 MEST Reply-To: stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Web Via Email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >About 5 or 6 years ago there were still some functioning servers that >allowed one to email a URL and in turn the server would mail back the >text >version of that URL. Does anyone know if there is still a server such as >this that is still in existence and fuctioning? Have a look at www.faqs.org/faqs/internet-services/access-via-email/ and www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/howto1.html those are comprehensive manuals for this. -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 07:44:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: DOS genealogy programs Comments: To: Jeff Malka MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff Malka wrote: > Anyone have suggestions for a good DOS based genealogy database program? I am beginning to use PAF 3.01M for DOS and PAF 4.03 for Windows from http://www.familysearch.com/OtherResources/Paf_3.0.asp The two programs cost me a total of $20. v3 comes in a box with manuals, v4 is just CDROM with online pdf manual. The two appear to be compatible with each other. v3 claims to need a 286 but others (I need a larger flash) on the list say it works fine with the LX. Have also the disk for v2.3 which takes up less space but seems much harder to use. Can exchange GED files with the above versions. As far as I know, PAF is your only current option and it appears to be a good one. Bob -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 08:50:50 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Marks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Marks Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 1 Jan 2000 to 2 Jan 2000 (#2000-3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I'm working on a small application for the palmtop that I had hoped to >have ready by now. But in trying to clean it up a little, I've run into >a quirk with the Turbo C "putenv" function. Do any of you programming >experts know any hints on using this function? What happens is that >I pass a string, like VAR=abcxyz, yet this environment variable isn't >being set, neither by the SET command after program termination nor by >a subsequent getenv() call from inside the program. I can think of a couple of posiblities here. One, probably the most likely, is that youre out of environment space. I forget whether there's an error/success return from putenv but if there is you might want to check it. If you need more there's a parameter on the shell command in config.sys to set it. SHELL=D:\COMMAND.COM /P /E:2048 would give you 2048 bytes of environment space. I think the default is 512 or maybe 1024. Double check the syntax on this. I haven't used it for a while and this is from memory. Another possiblity is that youre succeding in setting it but are losing it before you check it. For example, if you set an environment variable from inside the program, a SET command won't show it after the program has terminated. Every program gets it's own copy of the invironment and it's only setting that copy. However getenv from inside the same program, assuming that it hasn't terminated and run again, should find it. There is a way to set the master environment but it's a bit of a kluge and probably isn't supported by Turbo C. Code for that is available all over the web. I hope this helps. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 08:53:30 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Web Via Email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 15:35:02 MEST, Stephan Goeldi wrote: > www.faqs.org/faqs/internet-services/access-via-email/ > and > www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1236/howto1.html Yup, that's what I was looking for, I used the agora servers a lot a few years ago and they worked extremely well. Jeff *-------- Deputy Jeff Johns - W4JEF --------* | Jefferson County Sheriff's Department | | Birmingham, Alabama USA | | Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key | *--- Address all complaints to /dev/null ---* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Jan 0100 09:09:39 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Putenv Help In-Reply-To: <000e01bf55f9$ee7dc220$1b0b02cc@oemcomputer> from "Barry Marks" at Jan 3, 0 08:50:50 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Ý...¨ a couple of posiblities here. One, probably the most likely, > is that youre out of environment space. I forget whether there's an > errorreturn from putenv but if there is you might want to check it. I am checking it, and it returns success. I think I have enough space, at least in the master environment space. > Another possiblity is that youre succeding in setting it but are losing it > before you check it. For example, if you set an environment variable from > inside the program, a SET command won't show it after the program has > terminated. Every program gets it's own copy of the invironment and it's > only setting that copy. However getenv from inside the same program, > assuming that it hasn't terminated and run again, should find it. I can understand the fact that I'm setting it in a temporary program version of the environment space, but why getenv won't fetch it is a puzzle. > There is a way to set the master environment but it's a bit of a kluge and > probably isn't supported by Turbo C. Code for that is available all over > the web. Since this is what I really want, I'll look into this. Thanks, -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:33:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tom Hoover Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Hoover Organization: HisWord.net -- my own little speedbump on the Information SuperHighway Subject: Re: DOS genealogy programs In-Reply-To: <3870B5B7.8179A285@union-tel.com>; from bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM on Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 07:44:07AM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 07:44:07AM -0700, Bob Meyer wrote: > > > Anyone have suggestions for a good DOS based genealogy database program? > > I am beginning to use PAF 3.01M for DOS and PAF 4.03 for Windows from > > http://www.familysearch.com/OtherResources/Paf_3.0.asp I tested this combo several months ago. If I remember correctly, PAF4 supported additional fields that PAF3 couldn't/wouldn't read. As long as all data entry was done in PAF3, PAF4 could read it just fine. If any of the additional field were inadvertently used while editing in PAF4 (or a GEDCOM imported while in PAF4, etc), PAF3 couldn't see these additional fields. I think that the additional fields supported by PAF4 included source citations. I guess that I'm rather spoiled by the source fields, etc, provided by FSB and TMG. PAF3 requires most of that to be dumped into notes (if I remember correctly). Please tell me that I'm remembering incorrectly, as I am also looking for another DOS-based genealogy program (I'm a registered Family Scrapbook user, and own TMG-DOS (which unfortunately won't run on the palmtop)). -- Tom Hoover N5NTM - http://www.hisword.net/tom - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL - ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key -------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:33:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tom Hoover Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Hoover Organization: HisWord.net -- my own little speedbump on the Information SuperHighway Subject: Re: DOS genealogy programs In-Reply-To: <3870B5B7.8179A285@union-tel.com>; from bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM on Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 07:44:07AM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 07:44:07AM -0700, Bob Meyer wrote: > > > Anyone have suggestions for a good DOS based genealogy database program? > > I am beginning to use PAF 3.01M for DOS and PAF 4.03 for Windows from > > http://www.familysearch.com/OtherResources/Paf_3.0.asp I tested this combo several months ago. If I remember correctly, PAF4 supported additional fields that PAF3 couldn't/wouldn't read. As long as all data entry was done in PAF3, PAF4 could read it just fine. If any of the additional field were inadvertently used while editing in PAF4 (or a GEDCOM imported while in PAF4, etc), PAF3 couldn't see these additional fields. I think that the additional fields supported by PAF4 included source citations. I guess that I'm rather spoiled by the source fields, etc, provided by FSB and TMG. PAF3 requires most of that to be dumped into notes (if I remember correctly). Please tell me that I'm remembering incorrectly, as I am also looking for another DOS-based genealogy program (I'm a registered Family Scrapbook user, and own TMG-DOS (which unfortunately won't run on the palmtop)). -- Tom Hoover N5NTM - http://www.hisword.net/tom - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL - ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key -------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:33:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tom Hoover Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Hoover Organization: HisWord.net -- my own little speedbump on the Information SuperHighway Subject: Re: DOS genealogy programs In-Reply-To: <3870B5B7.8179A285@union-tel.com>; from bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM on Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 07:44:07AM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 07:44:07AM -0700, Bob Meyer wrote: > > > Anyone have suggestions for a good DOS based genealogy database program? > > I am beginning to use PAF 3.01M for DOS and PAF 4.03 for Windows from > > http://www.familysearch.com/OtherResources/Paf_3.0.asp I tested this combo several months ago. If I remember correctly, PAF4 supported additional fields that PAF3 couldn't/wouldn't read. As long as all data entry was done in PAF3, PAF4 could read it just fine. If any of the additional field were inadvertently used while editing in PAF4 (or a GEDCOM imported while in PAF4, etc), PAF3 couldn't see these additional fields. I think that the additional fields supported by PAF4 included source citations. I guess that I'm rather spoiled by the source fields, etc, provided by FSB and TMG. PAF3 requires most of that to be dumped into notes (if I remember correctly). Please tell me that I'm remembering incorrectly, as I am also looking for another DOS-based genealogy program (I'm a registered Family Scrapbook user, and own TMG-DOS (which unfortunately won't run on the palmtop)). -- Tom Hoover N5NTM - http://www.hisword.net/tom - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL - ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key -------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:33:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tom Hoover Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Hoover Organization: HisWord.net -- my own little speedbump on the Information SuperHighway Subject: Re: DOS genealogy programs In-Reply-To: <3870B5B7.8179A285@union-tel.com>; from bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM on Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 07:44:07AM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 07:44:07AM -0700, Bob Meyer wrote: > > > Anyone have suggestions for a good DOS based genealogy database program? > > I am beginning to use PAF 3.01M for DOS and PAF 4.03 for Windows from > > http://www.familysearch.com/OtherResources/Paf_3.0.asp I tested this combo several months ago. If I remember correctly, PAF4 supported additional fields that PAF3 couldn't/wouldn't read. As long as all data entry was done in PAF3, PAF4 could read it just fine. If any of the additional field were inadvertently used while editing in PAF4 (or a GEDCOM imported while in PAF4, etc), PAF3 couldn't see these additional fields. I think that the additional fields supported by PAF4 included source citations. I guess that I'm rather spoiled by the source fields, etc, provided by FSB and TMG. PAF3 requires most of that to be dumped into notes (if I remember correctly). Please tell me that I'm remembering incorrectly, as I am also looking for another DOS-based genealogy program (I'm a registered Family Scrapbook user, and own TMG-DOS (which unfortunately won't run on the palmtop)). -- Tom Hoover N5NTM - http://www.hisword.net/tom - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL - ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key -------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:47:35 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Doering Subject: Flashdisk from HPLX in Notebook Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mime-version: 1.0 Hi! Is there a chance to read a HPLX formatted Flash-Disk in a Notebook under NT or Linux? Linux says, there are no partition informations on the ide drive=2E And it's right, I think! What will I have to do to access my data?=20= It's an 8 MB noname (Okano) compact flash card with PCMCIA-Adapter=2E Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:40:33 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: i am disadvantaged MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Yes I hope she gets it back or a new one soon. I sent my hplx to >Thaddeus for a upgrade 22.11.99. I got it back on 28.12.99 first, thank you all for your offers of your backup units to sell me ;if possible i'd like a ready double spped, or i'd have to send it to Thaddeus being in Europe means i cannot get the money in time to US sellers to be competitive enough - the units are gone by the time my cheque reaches US so, i have another suggestion (request): anyone willing to buy the 2x-speed unit fs by Bob camba1@pacbell.net for the $200 and i will send this good guy a check for $250 to ship it to me. i know about the other option (send Thaddeus $659 to buy a new one) but as a student, not only is it not in my budget, but too easy ;)) mercy.....and love (you all seem to need) Nathalie ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 08:53:59 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: i am disadvantaged Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nathalie, The upgrade service is also available from Rundel Datentechnik in Europe (http://www.rundel-d.com/palmtop/). I've also made an offer to Bob for his LX, but haven't heard from him and so I assume the LX has already been spoken for. - Longden Nathalie Bugeaud on 01/03/2000 08:40:33 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Nathalie Bugeaud To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: i am disadvantaged >Yes I hope she gets it back or a new one soon. I sent my hplx to >Thaddeus for a upgrade 22.11.99. I got it back on 28.12.99 first, thank you all for your offers of your backup units to sell me ;if possible i'd like a ready double spped, or i'd have to send it to Thaddeus being in Europe means i cannot get the money in time to US sellers to be competitive enough - the units are gone by the time my cheque reaches US so, i have another suggestion (request): anyone willing to buy the 2x-speed unit fs by Bob camba1@pacbell.net for the $200 and i will send this good guy a check for $250 to ship it to me. i know about the other option (send Thaddeus $659 to buy a new one) but as a student, not only is it not in my budget, but too easy ;)) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:58:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TLange@RHYTHMS.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Lange Subject: Off the Subject: Pirates of Silicon Valley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have been enjoying the thread regarding everyone's first computer. This is kind of off the topic but I was watching that nutty Pirates of Silicon Valley the other day. I remember some discussion on this list a while back regarding how Gates bought DOS from some guy and then licensed it to IBM. They showed some of how that transpired. I was interested if anyone on the list could provide any insight into why Jobs would have agreed to let Gates have some Mac prototypes. There was a scene in the movie where Gates is telling Jobs that he could help him with some bugs in their spreadsheet application. Seems like there would be more to it than that. Forgive me if this topic has come up before. I know the movie came out last summer but I just saw it and enjoy the vast history the members of this list provide. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:10:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: OT: Pirates of Silicon Valley >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Lange Ýmailto:TLange@RHYTHMS.NET¨ >Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 12:58 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Off the Subject: Pirates of Silicon Valley > > >I have been enjoying the thread regarding everyone's first >computer. This is >kind of off the topic but I was watching that nutty Pirates of >Silicon Valley >the other day. I remember some discussion on this list a while >back regarding >how Gates bought DOS from some guy and then licensed it to >IBM. They showed some >of how that transpired. Actually, the way I heard it was this: IBM wanted MS to provide their BASIC language for the upcoming IBM PC. They also needed an OS. Gates said that DR CP/M was probably a good one to look at. The 'blue suits' then went to see the guy that owned CP/M (What the hell was his name?) but he was away. His wife spoke to the IBM guys but they first wanted her to sign a non-disclosure agreement. She was put off by this and told them to 'get stuffed'. The IBM guys went back to Gates and told him to either find or write an OS or the deal is off. Gates was not interested in writing an OS but he definitely didn't want the deal to fall through. He remembered a guy he knew from Colledge that wrote DOS. He contacted him and bought all the rights (and source code) to DOS from him. They then made a few mods and compiled it for the PC and the rest is history. > >I was interested if anyone on the list could provide any >insight into why Jobs >would have agreed to let Gates have some Mac prototypes. There >was a scene in >the movie where Gates is telling Jobs that he could help him >with some bugs in >their spreadsheet application. Seems like there would be more >to it than that. MS was, and is, a legitimate MAC developer. I think that much of the office suite and foxpro have MAC versions. I think they are now a significant shareholder in Apple. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:49:37 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: CES Show In-Reply-To: <03c850503090310MAILSVR2@lvcm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Louis Di Fazio wrote: > Just wondering if any fellow LXers are going to the Consumer > Electronics Show later this week in Las Vegas. Being that I live in > Vegas, I will be attending. Any one else? Another palmtop user in Las Vegas? Whoa. Qman and I thought we were alone. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:51:17 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: HP's Millenium Humor In-Reply-To: <20000103073642.A14994@palmtop.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, Mitchell Hamm wrote: > If this has been covered, my apologies... It seems that the HP design > team had Y2K in mind back when they designed the 200LX. My unit popped > up with a 11:59PM appointment on December 31, 1999 that said: "Don't > pass out yet!" Those guys crack me up. :) Happy Y2K from Palmtop.Net! Hey, nothing like that happened with my palmtop. What ROM version do you have? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 12:48:19 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: PCMCIA Disks & 16 Meg Simms Available Comments: To: smoore In-Reply-To: <3866494F.B624FDDA@effectnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:58 AM 12/26/99 -0800, you wrote: >I have (9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are >in excellent condition. They have only been used a very few times on >testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg >PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for >$65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only! I also have (8) > >16 Meg 72Pin EDO Simms for sale. I sell (1) 16 Meg Simms for $15.00 and >I sell (2) or more for $13.00 a piece plus $3.00 shipping . You can send > >payment to my address at: > > >Scott Moore >20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street >Beaverton, Or 97006 To any who may be interested, I can vouch for the integrity of Mr. Moore. He mailed the 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disk ATA Type II card I ordered, and it works great. It was mailed in a protective envelope wrapped securely in shrink wrap. I would gladly do business with him again. If anyone has any questions, feel free to email me off-list. Regards, David Ball dmb10@swbell.net Regards, David Ball mailto:dmb10@swbell.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:03:10 -0800 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: New Years Eve Comments: To: Phil Rhoades MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nope, various disputes about how long this or that king reigned and how long the exile lasted and how long the captivity in Egypt lasted and how to deal with the ages given for Adam and his direct offspring cause various dates. Phil Rhoades wrote: > > From: Stephan Goeldi > > >>On Jan 1st 2000 we have >- year 2000 according to the Gregorian calendar > >> - year 5760 according to the Jewish calendar > > > >- year 6025 according to the bible calendar > > What do you mean by this - isn't the "bible" (Old Testament?) calendar going > to be the same as the Jewish calendar? > > Regards, > > Phil. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:09:29 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: My first computer: we all must be sick! In-Reply-To: <2652338639@yeos.com.my> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Jan 2000, JIMMY TAN wrote: > My first computer was the Sinclair ZX Spectrum. That was 15 years ago. It still > lives today - in my 200LX! Thanks to a Spectrum Emulator I can now do some of > the things that I could only dream of when I was kid, eg. take the role of > Ripley and kick some Alien butts while catching a bus! So have you found a Spectrum emulator that runs fast enough on the LX to be playable? I mean, playing Alien at 25% of the intended speed doesn't sound like much fun... Happy 1900, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 16:01:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Sanders Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Sanders Subject: Post.adr to outlook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have a simple way to translate the post address book to = Outlook? It's easier to use post, but I use outlook at work. Thanks. = Jim Sanders ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:45:17 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: DOS genealogy programs Comments: To: Jeff Malka In-Reply-To: <001901bf55f3$4fccd0e0$3d0a37ce@jsm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Parson's had a DOS version of Family Origins. I probably still have the disks from the last DOS version before they went fully over to Windoze. Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA email mailto:bc@chisp.net website http://chisp.net/~bc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:45:42 +1030 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Collins, Barry (FORENSIC)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Collins, Barry (FORENSIC)" Subject: Using Twp HPLX Machines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Everyone and New Year Greetings from "Down Under", >Santa dropped off another HP 200LX DS/8MB unit (thanks Thaddeus) and I >have a question on usage. Now that I have two (2) LX's are there any >list members using two (2) LX's on a daily basis? Emphatically yes! I have a DS 100LX which was magically upgraded to 32Mb by Kazuto Kitakubo (to whom many thanks yet again); and I have a 200LX DS/32Mb unit. Both have flash-cards which, for several reasons, I keep permanently installed. For a start, they act as the perfect backup for each other and since they are physically separate (unlike the cards), should one get lost then there is always the other. I find that having two units is ideal for working with reports and databases, particularly as these are being updated/altered on a regular basis. For instance, imagine trying to remember the changes that you make to a database as you go along. By displaying the database in question on both units simultaneously and leaving the original on one and making changes on the other, I can see at a glance what has been altered and if I make a mistake which is saved, there is always the original to retrieve the situation. The same works for reports. When you are trying to work out how to change/improve some part of the text, you really need the original to constantly remind you of it before you continue with the alteration. It is frustrating to change something and then wish that you had not! Yes, I realise that you should always save the original but you can't easily see the original while making alterations to it. You could print it out, but why waste time and paper and ink if you already have two LX machines? I link the two by IR and it takes the twinkling of an eye to transfer data. On the rare occasion when I have had to reformat a unit from scratch, it is very useful to have the other beside it with the screen readable. You can then use it as a guide to get the other loaded (which shows the screen as a mass of squiggles until the double-speed driver takes over). Finally, it is very reassuring to know that everything important is duplicated separately and the two machines can then be stored in separate locations until required again. So don't get rid of your old unit when you get a new one. I am sure that many of you will think of other reasons for using two units on a regular basis. Barry Collins ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:28:53 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Carlo Subject: TransfileWin 200 on 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF5629.26EA4B40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF5629.26EA4B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have recently transitioned from a 100 to the 200LX but can not get = Transfile to connect to the 200 when using my PC to backup my = notes,phone,etc. I am using all the same key strokes and the same cable that I had with = the 100...pins are same... Any suggestions would be appreciated.. johncarlo@mindspring.com ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF5629.26EA4B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have recently transitioned from a 100 = to the=20 200LX but can not get Transfile to connect to the 200 when using my PC = to backup=20 my notes,phone,etc.
I am using all the same key strokes and = the same=20 cable that I had with the 100...pins are same...
 
Any suggestions would be = appreciated..
 
johncarlo@mindspring.com
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF5629.26EA4B40-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:25:58 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Occasionally happens here. Subject: Re: OT: Pirates of Silicon Valley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Padin wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Tom Lange Ýmailto:TLange@RHYTHMS.NET¨ > >Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 12:58 PM > >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Off the Subject: Pirates of Silicon Valley > > > >I have been enjoying the thread regarding everyone's first > >computer. This is > >kind of off the topic but I was watching that nutty Pirates of > >Silicon Valley > >the other day. I remember some discussion on this list a while > >back regarding > >how Gates bought DOS from some guy and then licensed it to > >IBM. They showed some > >of how that transpired. > > Actually, the way I heard it was this: > > IBM wanted MS to provide their BASIC language for the upcoming IBM PC. They > also needed an OS. Gates said that DR CP/M was probably a good one to look > at. The 'blue suits' then went to see the guy that owned CP/M (What the hell > was his name?) but he was away. His wife spoke to the IBM guys but they > first wanted her to sign a non-disclosure agreement. She was put off by this > and told them to 'get stuffed'. The IBM guys went back to Gates and told him > to either find or write an OS or the deal is off. Gates was not interested > in writing an OS but he definitely didn't want the deal to fall through. He > remembered a guy he knew from Colledge that wrote DOS. He contacted him and > bought all the rights (and source code) to DOS from him. They then made a > few mods and compiled it for the PC and the rest is history. QD-Dos wasn't thought to be "bought" outright, but rather "licenced", to Gates, by it's owner - Of course, if you have rich lawyer uncles who can loan you money & lawyers' time, you can edit the "truth" effectively in court, it seems. Fortunately this isn't *always* successful, but too often for comfort. > >I was interested if anyone on the list could provide any > >insight into why Jobs > >would have agreed to let Gates have some Mac prototypes. There > >was a scene in > >the movie where Gates is telling Jobs that he could help him > >with some bugs in > >their spreadsheet application. Seems like there would be more > >to it than that. > > MS was, and is, a legitimate MAC developer. I think that much of the office > suite and foxpro have MAC versions. I think they are now a significant > shareholder in Apple. Mark -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 17:29:46 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Occasionally happens here. Subject: Re: Flashdisk from HPLX in Notebook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't had problems transferring data from HP200LX to PC110 to old 486 laptops under Dos 6.22, on various CF and Flash media; I initialized them on the old 486 laptop first, though, and that may be the trick - try clearing the data off the disk, then initialize it on your notebook (ATAInit or the like), and try again. Should work fine. Mark Martin Doering wrote: > > Hi! > > Is there a chance to read a HPLX formatted Flash-Disk in a Notebook under NT or > Linux? > > Linux says, there are no partition informations on the ide drive. And it's > right, I think! What will I have to do to access my data? > > It's an 8 MB noname (Okano) compact flash card with PCMCIA-Adapter. > > Martin > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:43:45 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: My first computer: we all must be sick! Comments: To: JIMMY TAN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jimmy! I used to have many ZX Spectrum games (to run on my TS 2068) -- and probably still have them on audio tape somewhere around. Where did you get the emulator and the games? Thanks! Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: JIMMY TAN To: Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2000 10:25 PM Subject: Re: My first computer: we all must be sick! > My first computer was the Sinclair ZX Spectrum. That was 15 years ago. It still > lives today - in my 200LX! Thanks to a Spectrum Emulator I can now do some of > the things that I could only dream of when I was kid, eg. take the role of > Ripley and kick some Alien butts while catching a bus! > > > Happy Y2K! (I mean minus the bug) > > Jimmy. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 11:49:40 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Web Via Email Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Might have it somewhere. If I find it, I'll let the list know... Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Johns To: Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 6:17 AM Subject: Web Via Email About 5 or 6 years ago there were still some functioning servers that allowed one to email a URL and in turn the server would mail back the text version of that URL. Does anyone know if there is still a server such as this that is still in existence and fuctioning? Jeff *-------- Deputy Jeff Johns - W4JEF --------* | Jefferson County Sheriff's Department | | Birmingham, Alabama USA | | Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key | *--- Address all complaints to /dev/null ---* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 13:49:20 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Riziko Comments: To: Mike Wagstaff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whoa, this is a *COOL* little piece of sotware, and specifically for the LX too! Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Wagstaff To: Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 6:02 PM Subject: Re: Riziko > > Does anyone know if Riziko is still being supported? > > The link to the Riziko homepage is: > http://www.evt.bme.hu/~gergo/100lx/ > > Hopefully, you can find some answers here... > > -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:51:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Fluff: New Years Eve Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephan Goeldi wrote: > If you take only the pure bible, you get 6025 years. > If you are interested, I can send you the calculations, that lead to 6025 > years. I would be very much interested in the calculations. Bob -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 19:33:53 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Post.adr to outlook Comments: To: Jim Sanders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Does anyone have a simple way to translate the post address book to > Outlook? It's easier to use post, but I use outlook at work. Thanks. > Jim Sanders If outlook can import an ascii file you got it! The addresses in post.adr are just one email address per line - nothing fancy at all! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 03:41:31 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: TransfileWin 200 on 200LX Comments: To: johncarlo@MINDSPRING.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I have recently transitioned from a 100 to the 200LX but can not get > Transfile to connect to the 200 when using my PC to backup my > notes,phone,etc. Make sure some of the Filer settings are appropriate, like enable remote and things like that under Communications. I'm not sure if HP's Setup Ctrl-filer has any relevant settings. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:41:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: FLUFF: DOS on CE or EPIC palmtops/Japanese HP200LX upgrade project Does anyone know which Windows CE DOS option is fastest, CE-XT or Pocket DOS? I don't have a CE palmtop, so I can't test this out. I'm interested in how fast each one runs DOS programs compared to the HP200LX X2 palmtop. Also, anyone have any updates on the Japanese HP200LX upgrade project? Any more info on how an American get ahold of one? I've got a DOS program that the HP200LX just can't run fast enough. (We're talking 2-3 minute waits between functions on my HP200LX 32 Meg X2 palmtop.) I don't want to lug a laptop around. Any other reasonable solutions anyone can think of? Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:02:44 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Web Via Email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit +on 3 Jan 2000 06:18:53 -0800, Jeff Johns wrote: > About 5 or 6 years ago there were still some functioning servers that > allowed one to email a URL and in turn the server would mail back the > text > version of that URL. Does anyone know if there is still a server such as > this that is still in existence and fuctioning? I do not know if this exists, but I used it about 3-4 years ago for awhile. Please let us know if it works, should you get a chance to use it. agora@info.lanic.utexas.edu Note : In the body of the message ask for a specific web page: send For instance: send http://www.shier.com To get links too, send: deep For source of HTML only: source Multiple lines are ok. For Information on usage: Put 'help' on a line by itself. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:02:47 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff: New Years Eve MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yeah, post it. The Jewish tradition uses the years in the old testament until the "Common Era", or what we call now AD. They add the years in that era and end up with 5760, not 6025. > Stephan Goeldi wrote: > > > If you take only the pure bible, you get 6025 years. > > If you are interested, I can send you the calculations, that lead to 6025 > > years. > > I would be very much interested in the calculations. > > Bob > -- > +--------------------+-----------------+ > |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| > |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| > |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| > +--------------------+-----------------+ > | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | > +--------------------------------------+ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:41:28 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Text-only weather reports MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A while ago there was a thread about getting weather reports in text format. I just recently rediscovered a site with telnet access to weather reports for locations in the US. I had used this some time ago but had forgotten all about it. Simple to use, just telnet to rainmaker.wunderground.com and type in a 3 character city code, or use the menus. There is some international data, but no forecasts. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:40:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Web Via Email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:02:44 -0800, A Meshar wrote: > I do not know if this exists, but I used it about 3-4 years > ago for awhile. Please let us know if it works, should you > get a chance to use it. > > agora@info.lanic.utexas.edu Thanks Avi.... There used to be a bunch of the agora servers scattered around the world. I tried about four of 'em today and only got 1 to = respond. Basically, I'm trying to find one that is reliable so I can have it send = me the eBay page that lists the items I have up for grabs whenever I send it = an email. I worte ebbay and told them that they should consider having an autoresponder for those of us in the world that are somewhat browser challenged. Actually, I'm not that challenged, it's just so much quicker = to fire off a canned email message sometimes than it is to use a browser. Jeff *-------- Deputy Jeff Johns - W4JEF --------* | Jefferson County Sheriff's Department | | Birmingham, Alabama USA | | Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key | *--- Address all complaints to /dev/null ---* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 23:53:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Using the infrared port in DOS Comments: To: Paul Khoury MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Paul, > Is there any way to use the infrared port in DOS, or only > in Application Manager? With the program Serctl (on your ROM drive) you can configure the COM port to use the IR. Just type SERCTL /I at the DOS prompt to switch the COM1 port to IR A more flexible program is Stefan Peichl's SETCOM1. You can download it from http://peichl.hplx.net . Or get Stefan Peichl's "LXPRO" (also on peichl.hplx.net). That allows you to configure the COM port with a TSR and a hot key! GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 00:20:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Fluff: Ramblings and Ruminations MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, Santa came a week or so late...but I received my two "gifts" in the mail today... a HP320LX that I won in an auction from Ebay, and a 20 megabyte Type II flash card. The 320LX is a fascinating WinCE unit. After playing with it for a few hours this afternoon, I can see why these units are both attractive and irritating. I enjoyed the interface, and using a stylus to navigate around the screen is quite entrancing. I can now see the attraction of the Palm type units. I've yet to delve deeply into the Applications, but they don't seem as powerful or easy to use as the applications on the 200LX. More experimentation on this as time goes on. The screen is quite nice...the wider view is especially good. And of course...the backlight is a superb feature. On the whole, I'm not sure if I'll keep the unit for a great length of time. I wanted to dip my toe into the WindowsCE world without breaking my bank, and this unit will allow me to delve to my satisfaction. It will be an interesting excursion, that's for sure. And as far as the RAM card...yahoo! Now I can store many more programs on my 200LX. The 4 megabyte limitation was pressing me tightly. I look forward to loading it up with stuff. Regards, David Ball Regards, David Ball mailto:dmb10@swbell.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:11:25 +1030 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rod Whitby Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: Resent-From: Rod Whitby Comments: Originally-From: Rod Whitby From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: X-Finder R.10 and R.11 Beta In-Reply-To: <38717EAC230.B25FTOSHIKI@mail.asahi-net.or.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Toshiki Sasabe writes: > Please send your report to me. I will communicate it to the author of XF > in English. Great. I've also copied the list so that others can see how to use the new virtual path feature and the xfexm found in R.11 beta 4. 1/ Bug: When using the inbuilt text file viewer with the smallest built-in font, a couple of lines at the bottom of the status area (the bit where the X-Finder version, and file details are displayed) are not cleared before presenting the text file for viewing. If I switch to the medium built-in font, then it's o.k. 2/ Bug: When in the text viewer, I would expect the ZOOM (Fn-Space) key to act the same as the F7 zoom key. 3/ Request: When in the text viewer, I'd like the Enter key to have the same effect as the the Space or PgDown keys. 4/ Bug: When using the virtual path feature, and using the entering and leaving commands in the virtual path for '.', I can't get a multiple command entry to work. To explain this better, I want to have a MOREEXM¬ directory for xfexm to use. I have changed the source code for xfexm to only read from C:\_DAT\MOREEXM.INI and write to a single directory (C:/FINDER/MOREEXM¬). I have also made it add a virtual path entry to the _.XFN file like this: . /MoreEXM#xfexm w#xfexm g This works well, and means that when I enter the MOREEXM¬ directory, the set of icons is updated from the moreexm.ini file, and when I hit ESC to leave What I would like to do is write this instead: . /MoreEXM#xfexm w;$m {Esc}#xfexm g so that when I enter the directory, "xfexm g" is run, and when I leave the directoy (by {Esc}), then "xfexm w" is run, and then the normal behaviour is also done (so I end up in the parent directory after the moreexm.ini file has been rewritten). But I can't seem to get the ';' multiple command feature to work in the virtual path entering and leaving commands. My request is either to allow the multiple command feature to work in this position, or to always do the normal leaving behaviour after running the special leaving command. Currently the source code returns from the goparent() routine after the call to exec(). I think that if this return statement was removed, then the code would execute the leaving command, and then go to the parent directory. But this would conflict with the usage of this leaving command feature in the PIMS¬.LZH file. I am not familiar enough with the finder.c file to suggest a fix for this bug so that it would execute the multiple commands. -- -- Rod Whitby, Snr Staff Engr, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 22:43:47 -0800 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: BOB1 Subject: Re: Fluff: Ramblings and Ruminations Comments: To: David Ball MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit David Ball wrote: > > Well, Santa came a week or so late...but I received my two "gifts" in the > mail today... > a HP320LX that I won in an auction from Ebay, and a 20 megabyte Type II > flash card. > > The 320LX is a fascinating WinCE unit. After playing with it for a few > hours this afternoon, I can see why these units are both attractive and > irritating. I enjoyed the interface, and using a stylus to navigate around > the screen is quite entrancing. I can now see the attraction of the Palm > type units. > > I've yet to delve deeply into the Applications, but they don't seem as > powerful or easy to use as the applications on the 200LX. More > experimentation on this as time goes on. > > The screen is quite nice...the wider view is especially good. And of > course...the backlight is a superb feature. On the whole, I'm not sure if > I'll keep the unit for a great length of time. I wanted to dip my toe into > the WindowsCE world without breaking my bank, and this unit will allow me > to delve to my satisfaction. It will be an interesting excursion, that's > for sure. > > And as far as the RAM card...yahoo! Now I can store many more programs on > my 200LX. The 4 megabyte limitation was pressing me tightly. I look > forward to loading it up with stuff. > > Regards, > > David Ball > > Regards, > > David Ball > mailto:dmb10@swbell.net > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml David ! I Agree with you I had a hp320lx nice machine,but I went a little father and got a 620lx boy! what a machine color,16mb and windows CE 2.0 FAR INPROVE than the windows 1.0, but the HP200LX STILL is my queen. Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 23:20:08 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: OL2LX 2.15 Comments: To: Curtis Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Curtis, Checking out OL2LX 2.15. Real neat stuff! Trying to see if I can get LX data to Oulook and then to my new Rex Pro. So far, one question and one comment: Question: when will it work for Outlook 2000? Comment: One birthday note attachment gets created for each contact. Kind of an overkill if the contact's birthday is blank... More when I get a chance! Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 00:10:32 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: OL2LX 2.15 (more) Comments: To: Curtis Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ever thought of asking Starfish about giving you info to write a LX "accessor" for their TrueSync software? Would provide the best of all possible situation! BTW, I managed to export everything to Oulook 98 and then I used TrueSync to get everything to my REX Pro. Hardly a turnkey solution, but it works. However, with an accessor, I could synchronize Outlook/HPLX/REXPro all at the same time! And hey, I would pay a solid chunk of cash (50-100$) for something like that! Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:02:36 -0800 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: outlook to 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, I have a nice dos program that died Y2K. In looking at replacements for it I am wondering if anyone knows of a tool to export an outlook event to a 200lx adb file event? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 17:07:45 +0800 Reply-To: JIMMY TAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: JIMMY TAN Subject: Re: My first computer: we all must be sick! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nope, it's probably the same emulator that you're familiar with. Running at 25% is acceptable because it's not a fast and furious shoot'em-up game. One advantage of the emulator is the ability to save snapshots, effectively giving you "endless lives". This helps tremendously towards completing mission-type games like Aliens, and Highway Encounter just to name another playable one. Jimmy. ---------------------------Reply Forwarder------------------------------ > So have you found a Spectrum emulator that runs fast enough on the LX to > be playable? I mean, playing Alien at 25% of the intended speed doesn't > sound like much fun... > > > Happy 1900, > > >Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 05:06:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: HP's Millenium Humor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, > the 200LX. My unit popped up with a 11:59PM appointment on December 31, > 1999 that said: > > "Don't pass out yet!" This didn't happen on my (German) HP200LX. GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 05:07:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: CF under Linux via parallel port (was: Re: Flashdisk from HPLX in Notebook) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Martin, > Is there a chance to read a HPLX formatted Flash-Disk in a Notebook under NT or > Linux? > > Linux says, there are no partition informations on the ide drive. And it's > right, I think! What will I have to do to access my data? How do you try to access the card? I have a similar problem: I use a parallel port CF card reader. Under Win95 it works perfectly, but udner linux I get a similar error as you. I installed the needed EPAT protocol, and when I load the modules for EPAT and for PARIDE, everything is okay. But if I then try to load the module PD, this loading fails. And when I then try to access the CF card via its /dev/??? entry (can't remember the name for the moment), Linux says, that it is not a block device. Anyone have informations about _this_? GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:31:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nxw988e@TNINET.SE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Fwd: HP printing.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is here anyone who could help Alchemija? --- begin of forwarded message --- Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 22:55:37 +0200 From: Alchemija To: Lars Subject: HP printing.. Hello Lars, have you ever tried to print from HP to any kind of printer = except from IR port? I tried to print to IBM ProPrinter II type - no = success - no a single mark from printer that his is trying to do = something.. Best regards, Algis mailto:alchoma@is.lt --- end of forwarded message --- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:39:55 +0900 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "KAZU(Kazuhisa Ta" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "KAZU(Kazuhisa Ta" Subject: Re: Pre-purchase questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Hi all. A happy new year! Bob Christopher wrote > One thing I am wondering about is the Iomega Click PCMCIA II card disk > with interchangeable 40mb disks. This would seem to be the ideal companion > for mass storage on the 200LX. I went and looked at it today and noted that > the requirements on the box stated Windows 95/98 OS and that the drivers > for the unit were on a CD-ROM in the package. Has anyone inquired of Iomega > if they have or will have a DOS 5.0 driver setup so that the Click can be us ed> on older laptops and palmtops? Has anyone tried to get one of these units > and running on the 200LX? Any reports? Thanks and Happy New Year one and all . The PCMCIA card for the Click is little bit thick for 200LX. It is impossible to insert the card to the PC card slot of the 200LX. I don't know wheather it works or not with a PCMCIA extention card or double slot. Bye $B!% (B ------------------------ KAZU(Kazuhisa Tanabe) Kyto, Japan QWQ11433@nifty.ne.jp ------------------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:32:08 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: putenv solved, PalMake Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just to report, I found a solution to my putenv problem. I found a nifty utility on the internet that I was able to modify to work. The reference page I located that pointed to the utility was impressive enough to warrant mention: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/msdos-programmer-faq/part4/section-20.html This is just the applicable section on the DOS environment space, but the whole FAQ is a remarkable collection. Anyway, the particular utility I found easiest to modify was: ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/envutil/rbsetnv1.zip The files you need from this collection are: setenv.c, popen.c, getswitc.c, envfuncs.c, comsub.c, comsub.h, popen.h I'm certain this can be trimmed somewhat, so to simply set an environment variable, but as it stands it does work. I just modified the main declaration in setenv.c to become a function, i.e.: WAS: main( int argc, char *argvݨ ) { WAS: void setenv( int argc, char *argvݨ ) { Again, this could be simplified, but I wanted something quick and dirty to test with. So now I can change the environment settings for the main DOS session from within a program. I then compiled the .c programs, and put them into a library called env.lib, which I would link with my application. Which beings me to a PALMake question... any way to specify a user library in the SRCLST file? To do my test, I just linked by hand to point to both the PAL and my new env library. But I can think of other cases where I would like to build a PAL application with a user library or two, in addition to the PAL library. Does anyone know the details of the PM utility well enough to help me? Thanks, -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 08:57:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Malka Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Malka Subject: Y2K date problem? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I noticed that even though the appt screen shows the date correctly as 2000 and when one goes to a DOS prompt, the date command shows the year with 4 figures, when one goes in the sysmanager's date formating screen, the date formatting options do not include a 4 year format. One of my DOS programs, which othewise works fine in Y2k, seems to miscalculate the backup dates. For example yesterday I backed up its data (through its own built in backup function) but the programs now says "Last backup : 3-Jan-2000 (3654 days ago)" Since I assume it is comparing the backup date with the date the HP is giving it, there may be a problem there. Jeff Malka ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 20:58:32 +0900 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Kawartani Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Kawartani Subject: Re: FLUFF: DOS on CE or EPIC palmtops/Japanese HP200LX upgrade project Comments: To: John J Vanderstel Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The IBM 110 (Ultraman) which is about one form factor larger than a 200lx has a 33 MHz 486 processor (this is a ball park figure). I assume that you could find one relatively cheaply these days in Tokyo. However, given your speed requirements, a older model Toshiba Libretto with a 50+ MHz may be a better choice. Also makes a good support device for you HP200lx. ---------- > $B:9=P?M (J : John J Vanderstel > $B08@h (J : HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > $B7oL> (J : FLUFF: DOS on CE or EPIC palmtops/Japanese HP200LX upgrade project > $BAw?.F|;~ (J : 2000 $BG/ (J 1 $B7n (J 4 $BF| (J ( $B2P (J) 0:41 PM > > Does anyone know which Windows CE DOS option is fastest, CE-XT or Pocket > DOS? > > I don't have a CE palmtop, so I can't test this out. > > I'm interested in how fast each one runs DOS programs compared to the > HP200LX X2 palmtop. > > Also, anyone have any updates on the Japanese HP200LX upgrade project? > Any more info on how an American get ahold of one? > > I've got a DOS program that the HP200LX just can't run fast enough. > (We're talking 2-3 minute waits between functions on my HP200LX 32 Meg X2 > palmtop.) > > I don't want to lug a laptop around. Any other reasonable solutions > anyone can think of? > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan > > ________________________________________________________________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 08:51:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Marks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Marks Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 2 Jan 2000 to 3 Jan 2000 - Special issue (#2000-4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some of the old games used disks formatted in some strange way as a means of copy protection. Some even went so far as to include their own operating system that could read the disk. Since you have to boot it, it sounds like you might have one of those. If so, copying it will be a lot more trouble than its worth. >In an old diskette box I recently found a 5.25" disk with an old game I >loved - and now I'd love to play it on the LX. >But is's a _very_ mysterious diskette: >The game only starts, when I _boot_ my PC with this diskette (yes, even >on my K6-233 this game works!) >If I try to access the diskette in any way from DOS, I get an error >message saying 'drive B: not ready - cancel, retry, error' >(not original, since translated from German to English). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 08:58:56 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Marks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Marks Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 2 Jan 2000 to 3 Jan 2000 - Special issue (#2000-4) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I can understand the fact that I'm setting it in a temporary program >version of the environment space, but why getenv won't fetch it is >a puzzle. You may have already thought of this but if you're not using uppercase you might not find it. Even though you set an environment variable in lower case, it stores it as uppercase. I'm not sure now whether getenv converts to upper case before it checks but I think I remember that it doesn't. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 08:38:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Fwd: HP printing.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:44:25 -0500 (EST) 02h12m58s ago ... On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Lars Hedstroem wrote: > Is here anyone who could help Alchemija? > > --- begin of forwarded message --- > > Lars, have you ever tried to print from HP to any kind of printer > except from IR port? I tried to print to IBM ProPrinter II type - > no success - no a single mark from printer that his is trying to do = > something.. 1 Unless the printer has a serial port, you need to use a serial - parallel converter. 2 The HP serial port speed and the S-P converter speed must match. Those made for the LX may be fixed at 9600 bps. 3 The HP serial port must be enabled (in DOS do serctl /w) The built-in apps turn the port on as needed. 4 The serial port uses XON-XOFF handshaking when printing. Some DOS software will wait for the XON character from the S-P converter before sending data. I have one or two programs that do this. I have to make sure the printer is set off-line when connecting to the palmtop, then press the on-line button after the program starts. HTH Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 10:32:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tom Salwasser Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: More Lxpic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I recently discovered lxpic and really like it. I want to use it on my desktop machine too. Is there a version that will display jpegs in full color? Thanks, Tom Salwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:12:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lfeldman@USA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Feldman Subject: Re: Web Via Email Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff, You should also check out: http://web.bellanet.org/ and http://www.speedylink.com/ Larry Feldman LFeldman@USA.net Jeff Johns wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 20:02:44 -0800, A Meshar wrote: > > > I do not know if this exists, but I used it about 3-4 years > > ago for awhile. Please let us know if it works, should you > > get a chance to use it. > > > > agora@info.lanic.utexas.edu > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:14:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: outlook to 200lx Comments: To: "patrickwest@uswest.net" Doesn't Curtis Cameron's OL2LX program do this? http://members.aol.com/FreeWhL44/lxgames.html >-----Original Message----- >From: Patrick West Ýmailto:patrickwest@USWEST.NET¨ >Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 4:03 AM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ outlook to 200lx > > >Folks, > >I have a nice dos program that died Y2K. In looking at >replacements for it I am wondering if anyone knows of a tool >to export an outlook event to a 200lx adb file event? > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:27:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ronburnett@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Burnett Subject: Re: Web Via Email Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff: In response to: > > > About 5 or 6 years ago there were still some functioning > servers that > allowed one to email a URL and in turn the server wou > ld mail back the text version of that URL. Does anyone know if there is = still > a server such as > this that is still in existence and fuctioning? > > Jeff > There is an e-mail list that covers this area. To get the ACCMAIL FAQ: Send e-mail to "mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu" and enter only this line in the BODY of the note: send I'm not sure of the exact procedure for subscribing to the list. Try sending an e-mail to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.AOL.COM with the following in the subject: SUBSCRIBE ACCMAIL Ron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:22:02 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "James P. Grenert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "James P. Grenert" Organization: Mayo Medical School Subject: Re: Palmtop compatible USA ISP and palmtop.com Comments: To: D Dv MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is a reply to an OLD post. However, I don't think the question was answered. On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, D Dv wrote: > Sounds like you have not heard of Freeway. Free long distance plus > ccmail sounded like a good deal to me, but there are a few downsides: > > 2-ccmail seems a little slow in dialing. This is simply a function of the setting that your modem uses. I speed things up by editing the *.MDM file in C:\_DAT (* represents whatever the name of the file you use is called; all of these cc:Mail modem files end in .MDM). There is a line "SETUP=" which has the modem init string. Add "S11=50" to the end of that (no quotation marks), and dialing will be considerably faster. > 3-The 9600bps limit seems slow for the limit imposed on the time. I use a 33.6K modem and connect at 19.2K. What is "the limit imposed on the time?" Normal emails, even large ones, transfer quite quickly even at 9600. I suppose larger ones like the HPLX digest may be slower, but that would be slow regardless of what email setup you used. I have to say, however, that I don't subscribe to palmtop.com because I need it so rarely (don't use my LX much for email). When I have used it, it has worked well. Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 14:21:15 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Printing from Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We got a call from a customer today: <> I am not sure why he is running Lotus 2.4 from DOS. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:37:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Printing from Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect Comments: To: Hal Goldstein In 2.4 you can define a printer interface to use. Maybe he doesn't have LPT1: as the printer port? Maybe it tries to access the parallel port directly and bypasses the parallel port card driver? Lotus was notorious for doing direct hardware accesses that screwed up video drivers and multi-tasking software. Hope it helps. >-----Original Message----- >From: Hal Goldstein Ýmailto:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨ >Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 3:21 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Printing from Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect > > >We got a call from a customer today: > ><from us. It >works for him to print out of programs in System Manager. However, he >cannot get it to print from his DOS programs (Lotus 2.4 and >WordPerfect). >What he can do is "print to a file", then go out to the DOS >prompt and do >the print file command from there. He just can' t print >directly from the >program.>> > >I am not sure why he is running Lotus 2.4 from DOS. Does >anyone have any >suggestions? > >Thanks > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 12:52:07 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: TrueSync by Starfish MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gentlemen, I sent an e-mail to Starfish to see if they might be interested in letting someone write an TrueSync accessor for the LX. So far, so good, the response is positive. My current contact is Liz Benson, and she is responsible for technology partnership. I also gave her the Palmtop.Net website so she can see that the LX is alive and well and that it might be a good addition to their list of compatible PDAs. Would anyone be interested in teaming up with me in writing this accessor? I know that Curtis and at least one other person (J.H. Husgavel) have their own version of this little jewel. A TrueSync accessor would not only allow users to synchronize with Outlook, but also with WinCE devices, Palm devices and REXPro devices, as well as a good number of Calendar programs. Check out their site (www.starfish.com). If any of you want to keep the LX in the game, I believe this is the perfect way to do it. Mitchell, I'll contact you with some additional detail you might find interesting. Best Regards, Philippe Lewis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:05:47 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: TrueSync by Starfish In-Reply-To: <078201bf56f6$e90ba020$7613140a@siebel.com> from "Fryday" at Jan 04, 2000 12:52:07 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I sent an e-mail to Starfish to see if they might be interested in letting > someone write an TrueSync accessor for the LX. So far, so good, the response is > positive. Philippe: I would be interested in helping. I recently received some code that Mack wrote that reads the data in the card, but he stopped there because he didn't know the format of the data. I was going to play with it some, and perhaps contact Starfish. But you beat me to it... Keep me posted. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:16:00 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Hocking Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Hocking Subject: Re: Printing from Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > We got a call from a customer today: > > < works for him to print out of programs in System Manager. However, he > cannot get it to print from his DOS programs (Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect). > What he can do is "print to a file", then go out to the DOS prompt and do > the print file command from there. He just can' t print directly from the > program.>> > > I am not sure why he is running Lotus 2.4 from DOS. Does anyone have any > suggestions? Hal, I print from Lotus on my palmtop daily. In worksheet, global, default, printer setup I have the following setings: interface: 2 serial 1 baud rate: h 9600 margins: left 4 right 80 top 0 bottom 0 (nice format) page length: 59 "x" in send line feeds setup string: \027\069 (this resets printer after each page) delay: 1 Then in the palmtop setup program: baud: 9600 interface: com1 printer: HP laserjet These settings work for me. Hope this helps. Also the Lotus settings must be saved before exiting, or they will be lost after you exit. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:27:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Elite game on the palmtop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For those of you who (like me) completely missed this great game when it was new, Elite is a 3-D first-person space shooting game with a unique twist: You have to buy fuel, replacement missles and equipment upgrades necessary for survival. To get credits to pay for this, you buy goods at the space station outposts of various systems and sell them for profit (hopefully) elsewhere. Apparently PC Elite has been made available as freeware by Ian Bell, one of the authors. The really good news is that it runs nicely on the palmtop. Ian Bell's Website, with a link to download Elite, is at: http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/clara.net/i/a/n/iancgbell/webspace/elite/ Also available on the above site are versions formany other platforms, including several which apparantly work on a PC under various emulators. There are even a couple of sets of source code there, for all you programmer types. Any Elite fans out there? Any tips or tricks for a beginner? Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:30:57 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: TrueSync by Starfish Comments: To: Chris Lott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris, Neat, this is taking a interesting second direction, mainly being able to talk directly to the REX through the PCMCIA card. But to get the format of the REX data, someone should probably contact Franklin (www.franklin.com) for the details, with an approach similar to the one I took. TrueSync acts more like a data hub, reading it from one device, storing it in a common format, and sending it to all other devices/software packages via a specified field map. An LX accessor would allow a user to connect the LX via the serial port to that hub and synchronizing with the rest of the hub. This is done on a Win PC. Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Lott To: Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 1:05 PM Subject: Re: TrueSync by Starfish > > I sent an e-mail to Starfish to see if they might be interested in letting > > someone write an TrueSync accessor for the LX. So far, so good, the response is > > positive. > > Philippe: > > I would be interested in helping. I recently received some code that > Mack wrote that reads the data in the card, but he stopped there > because he didn't know the format of the data. I was going to play > with it some, and perhaps contact Starfish. But you beat me to it... > > Keep me posted. > > -Chris > > -- > > ************************************************************************ > R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com > Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. > Huntsville, Alabama > ************************************************************************ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:50:03 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: TrueSync by Starfish Comments: To: Chris Lott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep. I'll let everyone know when I get an answer from Starfish. I made sure to mention to Liz that we are an actual definite entity, not just a bunch of scattered users/developers, that we work together to develop software and test it. That should give us the additional credibility that a lone programmer/user would not have. If anyone in the core participants of this list disagree, please let me know. Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Lott To: Fryday Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 1:38 PM Subject: Re: Re: TrueSync by Starfish > Philippe: > > > Neat, this is taking a interesting second direction, mainly being able to talk > > directly to the REX through the PCMCIA card. But to get the format of the REX > > data, someone should probably contact Franklin (www.franklin.com) for the > > details, with an approach similar to the one I took. > > Well, I think Mack told me that when he tried this w/Franklin, they brushed > him off. But I believe that Starfish would indeed have the information > we require - after all, they translate the data, so they have to know > how its stored. > > > TrueSync acts more like a data hub, reading it from one device, storing it in a > > common format, and sending it to all other devices/software packages via a > > specified field map. An LX accessor would allow a user to connect the LX via the > > serial port to that hub and synchronizing with the rest of the hub. This is done > > on a Win PC. > > I can see that being done also, but my real interest is a sync program > that synchronizes the REX device with the LX PIM apps. I think Starfish > would be our best bet for getting help with this. In fact, they might > even agree to implement the program for us, if we could provide the hooks > into the 200LX apps. > > -Chris > > > > > -- > > ************************************************************************ > R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com > Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. > Huntsville, Alabama > ************************************************************************ > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:00:21 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: DOS genealogy programs Comments: To: Jeff Malka In-Reply-To: <001901bf55f3$4fccd0e0$3d0a37ce@jsm> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:01 AM 1/3/00 -0500, you wrote: >For years I have used an excellent DOS genealogy program called Family Scrap >Book on my LX200. Unfortunately it is not Y2k compatible and will not >accept dates past 99. Are you sure this is the case? I'm using version 2.2 of Family Scrapbook, and aded some dates just to test this out. Each one was added successfully. Regards, David Ball mailto:dmb10@swbell.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:00:38 +0100 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Printing from Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit He can try the following for WordPerfect. If he uses the COM1 port to print: In the printer settings he can choose "printing to file" and writes as the file name COM1 or COM1: It will work, and it will use some other way to print (uses DOS and no BIOS etc.). -goe- -----Original Message----- From: Hal Goldstein To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Dienstag, 4. Januar 2000 21:25 Subject: Printing from Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect >We got a call from a customer today: > ><works for him to print out of programs in System Manager. However, he >cannot get it to print from his DOS programs (Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect). >What he can do is "print to a file", then go out to the DOS prompt and do >the print file command from there. He just can' t print directly from the >program.>> > >I am not sure why he is running Lotus 2.4 from DOS. Does anyone have any >suggestions? > >Thanks > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:21:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Gary F. Carne" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Gary F. Carne" Subject: Connectivity Pack under Windows NT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am attempting to install the HP 100LX Connectivity Pack under Windows NT. I plan to use it only to run the built-in applications (not to connect to my palmtop). It starts very slowly and locks up often. Is there some secret to this?? Thanks, Gary garyc@tir.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 15:30:04 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Fw: TrueSync Accessor Development Information MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's Starfish's recent response. BTW, she said they are always looking for new people to join their team :-) Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Liz Benson To: Fryday Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 2:36 PM Subject: RE: TrueSync Accessor Development Information > Philippe, > > Thanks for the potential referrals. > > With regard to writing a TrueSync accessor for the LX users, we're not quite > ready with our SDK which is what you will need to do the job yourself. You > should sign up at http://www.starfish.com/tsdn to be notified when it's > available. > > Thanks for your support! > > Best regards, > > - Liz > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:50:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: More Lxpic Comments: To: Tom Salwasser MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I recently discovered lxpic and really like it. I want to use it on my > desktop machine too. Is there a version that will display jpegs in full > color? LXPIC works on my desktop and in color. However it doesn't display JPGs near as well or as fast as my preferred (desktop) picture viewer QPV (which requires a 386). cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:12:43 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Fw: TrueSync Accessor Development Information In-Reply-To: <07f401bf570b$ed2820b0$7613140a@siebel.com> from "Fryday" at Jan 04, 2000 03:30:04 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I suppose one of us ought to sign up. I hope the SDK is a thorough package, describing the detailed file formats, and not just a Windows DLL that you call from your Visual C program. Although the latter might help with the development of your "accessor" program, it wouldn't be helpful for developing a true DOS sync program. I glanced briefly at the German web site referenced by a previous post, and that looks most promising. I'll pursue this further.... -Chris > Here's Starfish's recent response. BTW, she said they are always looking for new > people to join their team :-) > > Philippe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Liz Benson > To: Fryday > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 2:36 PM > Subject: RE: TrueSync Accessor Development Information > > > > Philippe, > > > > Thanks for the potential referrals. > > > > With regard to writing a TrueSync accessor for the LX users, we're not quite > > ready with our SDK which is what you will need to do the job yourself. You > > should sign up at http://www.starfish.com/tsdn to be notified when it's > > available. > > > > Thanks for your support! > > > > Best regards, > > > > - Liz > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:19:43 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Fw: TrueSync Accessor Development Information Comments: To: Chris Lott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just signed up. Theres some information available for the Linux version of the connectivity kit, but there should be one for WinNT eventually. Dunno about DOS, though... Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Lott To: Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Fw: TrueSync Accessor Development Information > Well, I suppose one of us ought to sign up. I hope the SDK is a thorough > package, describing the detailed file formats, and not just a Windows > DLL that you call from your Visual C program. Although the latter might > help with the development of your "accessor" program, it wouldn't be > helpful for developing a true DOS sync program. > > I glanced briefly at the German web site referenced by a previous post, > and that looks most promising. I'll pursue this further.... > > -Chris > > > > Here's Starfish's recent response. BTW, she said they are always looking for new > > people to join their team :-) > > > > Philippe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Liz Benson > > To: Fryday > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 2:36 PM > > Subject: RE: TrueSync Accessor Development Information > > > > > > > Philippe, > > > > > > Thanks for the potential referrals. > > > > > > With regard to writing a TrueSync accessor for the LX users, we're not quite > > > ready with our SDK which is what you will need to do the job yourself. You > > > should sign up at http://www.starfish.com/tsdn to be notified when it's > > > available. > > > > > > Thanks for your support! > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > - Liz > > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > > -- > > ************************************************************************ > R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com > Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. > Huntsville, Alabama > ************************************************************************ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 18:34:53 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Fw: TrueSync Accessor Development Information In-Reply-To: <089a01bf5713$08d53990$7613140a@siebel.com> from "Fryday" at Jan 04, 2000 04:19:43 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I just signed up. Theres some information available for the Linux version of the > connectivity kit, but there should be one for WinNT eventually. Dunno about DOS, > though... Philippe: Keep me posted on any information they send you. I visited the various web site(s), which branched out into quite a bit if info in the RAM formats. There's almost enough information there to make the program already! Now to just find the time... As for the SDK remarks, I would hazard to guess that if one obtained the Linux version, there would be enough there to port/build a DOS version. Unless of course they only provide a binary library, or something equally cryptic. I'm encouraged so far. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 19:41:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Malka Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Malka Subject: Re: DOS genealogy programs Comments: To: David Ball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, I am delighted to say I was wrong. I did have a problem in that when I added a date in 2000 the program repeatedly crashed. That obviously worried the dickens out of me because this is such an excellent program. However when I re-indexed all its files (utility section) that problem went away - whew!! There does remain a minor cosmetic problem however: I backed up the data (using its own backup utility) and even though I did the backup yesterday the opening screen says: "Last backup : 3-Jan-2000 (3654 days ago)" That is so even though the appointment sceen on the LX shows the date correctly as 2000 and when I exit into DOS the date function says 2000 (not 00). What does your FSB says after you back it up? Jeff Malka ----- Original Message ----- From: David Ball To: Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 5:00 PM Subject: Re: DOS genealogy programs > At 09:01 AM 1/3/00 -0500, you wrote: > >For years I have used an excellent DOS genealogy program called Family Scrap > >Book on my LX200. Unfortunately it is not Y2k compatible and will not > >accept dates past 99. > > Are you sure this is the case? I'm using version 2.2 of Family Scrapbook, > and aded some dates just to test this out. Each one was added successfully. > > > Regards, > > David Ball > mailto:dmb10@swbell.net > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 20:25:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tom Salwasser Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: More Lxpic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>my preferred (desktop) picture viewer QPV<< Thanks Russ! Where can I find a copy? Tom Salwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 20:06:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Y2K date problem? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was disappointed to find that some of Lotus 123 date format commands give 4 digit year instead of 2 digit year formats (/rfd) when it appears that you should get 2 digits. Sure buggers up a spreadsheat. Y2K in reverse? Bob Jeff Malka wrote: -- +--------------------+-----------------+ |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23| |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6| |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13| +--------------------+-----------------+ | http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ | +--------------------------------------+ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 22:14:18 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Re: TrueSync by Starfish MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D7D2C9CC91F3A9060AA6DCD1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D7D2C9CC91F3A9060AA6DCD1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This sounds great! I'm not much of a programmer, but I might be able make myself available as a tester, as soon as I can get a Rex. Please keep us informed about this project. 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Kaufman" Subject: Re: HP's Millenium Humor Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hi friends, > > > the 200LX. My unit popped up with a 11:59PM appointment on December 31, > > 1999 that said: > > > > "Don't pass out yet!" > > This didn't happen on my (German) HP200LX. > I have a feeling someone close to Mitch got hold of his HP and placed that appointment or event in the unit. I did not get anything like that either with my American unit. I guess we need someone to search the rom for a string like that???? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 23:34:30 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Doug Mc Vey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Doug Mc Vey Organization: Prodigy Internet Subject: Re: Printing from Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect Comments: To: Robert Hocking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert What kind of cable do you use? I have a Epson Stylus Printer - it's a parallel printer. As I understand it, I have to have a conversion from Serial to Parallel or am I wrong. Thanks Doug Mc Vey ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Hocking To: Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 3:16 PM Subject: Re: Printing from Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect > > We got a call from a customer today: > > > > < > works for him to print out of programs in System Manager. However, he > > cannot get it to print from his DOS programs (Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect). > > What he can do is "print to a file", then go out to the DOS prompt and do > > the print file command from there. He just can' t print directly from the > > program.>> > > > > I am not sure why he is running Lotus 2.4 from DOS. Does anyone have any > > suggestions? > > Hal, > > I print from Lotus on my palmtop daily. In worksheet, global, > default, printer setup I have the following setings: > > interface: 2 serial 1 > baud rate: h 9600 > margins: left 4 right 80 top 0 bottom 0 (nice format) > page length: 59 > "x" in send line feeds > setup string: \027\069 (this resets printer after each page) > delay: 1 > > Then in the palmtop setup program: > baud: 9600 > interface: com1 > printer: HP laserjet > > These settings work for me. Hope this helps. Also the Lotus > settings must be saved before exiting, or they will be lost after > you exit. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 22:10:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Keen.Com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Experts on demand! This is actually a pretty cool site. Since there's many experts on this list regarding PDAs, I thought perhaps there might be interest for some to join the PDA category and subtly promote the LX: "A Palmpilot? Naaaah, get an LX instead!" Philippe fryday@california.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 22:41:02 -0800 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: BOB1 Subject: RETURN OF 95LX MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit LX'S I have a problem, maybe it can't be done: I have formated a txt file out to CD1 format for hp95lx phone file (this file has the same fields as the phone file.Using the connectivity pack to do the converting I GET "Invalid file extension" why?? my source file is a cd1 format,my target file extension is a pbk (phone file extension) I can format out (from 95lx) to a txt file but can't go back the other way (from txt to 95lx) Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 02:15:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Printing from Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Hal, > We got a call from a customer today: > Ý...¨ Is thie customer sure he configured his programs to use the right port? (LPT1 or PRN)? Maybe you should suggest him that he gets LXPRO, so he can see if the port is active when he wants to print out of the program and if it's not he can activate it. That's the only suggestion I have... GTX daniel -- Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de homepage: http://daniel.hplx.net telephone: +49 (0)177 795 55 49 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 08:53:08 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jez Cunningham Subject: Genealogy on the hplx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No-one seems to have mentioned the shareware program 'Brothers Keeper' which can run on DOS and Windows using the same data files. http://home.sprynet.com/~steed/homepage.htm br Jez ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:46:02 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Doering Subject: Re: CF under Linux via parallel port Comments: To: d.hertrich@GMX.DE Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mime-version: 1.0 Rehi, Daniel! >How do you try to access the card? I just plug in the card, and Linux then automatically identifies the card as an IDE harddisk=2E It then tries to mount the partitions - which fails! It automatically creates a device /dev/hde, but there is no partition table on it=2E I now could try to put one on it, but I don't know, if the HPLX will then manage to work with the card?!? Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:48:38 -100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: WTB 200LX with accessories MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I want to buy a second hand HP 200LX (1MB or more) with accessories (AC w= all adapter, etc...) for a friend of mine. Please indicate serial number and price asked (I am ready to pay $200-$25= 0 depending on accessories and memory). I will cover shipement to Belgium. Thanks, \/ /ves p.s.: si l'un(e) d'entre vous d=82sire me vendre un HP200LX avec clavier = AZERTY ce serait l'id=82al ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:48:43 -100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Software Carousel from flash MIME-Version: 1.0 Daniel, > I recently asked if there is a possibility to disable the blue keys in > any way (for example use exkey to map the blue keys to Shift-Bluekeys > and vice-versa), but when I tried this it didn't work. :-( Have you tried KEY200.COM (on the HP200LX D: drive) to redefine the blue keys as you describe above. I once disabled Quicken this way and have been using KEY200 reliably for years to remap my QWERTY keyboard into AZERTY. Regards, \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:06:33 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Doering Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack under Windows NT Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mime-version: 1.0 Hi, Gary! >I am attempting to install the HP 100LX Connectivity Pack under Windows >NT=2E I plan to use it only to run the built-in applications (not to >connect to my palmtop)=2E It starts very slowly and locks up often=2E Is >there some secret to this?? I use it with out any problems=2E My configurations: HP200LX Connectivity Pack 1=2E02 Win NT 4=2E0 SP4 My =2Epif File: Memory: No EMS No XMS, all others auto Screen: Fullscreen Martin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 02:36:43 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Occasionally happens here. Subject: Re: FLUFF: DOS on CE or EPIC palmtops/Japanese HP200LX upgrade project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do PC110 overclocking; these overclock to 40MHz, and can be run at 1/3 or 2/3 speed (Saves battery power.) One guy charges $40 for that, I would charge less. Haven't overclocked any of my machines yet, but then I use several machines at once, speed's not that bad of an issue (except on the 200LX, need to double speed mine ) I can set these machines alongside each other and take a picture if anyone wants The PC110 is the same width as the 200LX, about 1/3 deeper front to rear and about 1/3 taller; Twice the weight, fully loaded. It's a 486sx33 (by default), a Compact Flash slot on the right, 2 stacked PCMCIA type II slots on the left, a custom keyboard/mouse connector on the back, IR capable, and - wonderfully - it has a DSTN VGA screen, backlit. Of course that 2x weight includes a PCMCIA hard drive (1Gb HDD's work just fine in there. I have a 540Mb HDD in one PC110 here.) There's a default 4Mb internal Flash RAM that has a PDA called "PersonaWare", though I don't use it much. There's a tiny little LCD display on the front for status / charging / time / speed / etc. information, sort of nice. Choose your OS, it can run on the PC110, OS/2, Linux, Win95, Dos, whatever. Battery life's about 1.25 - 1.5 hours off a 1500 mAh Li-Ion battery. (3 hours if you run off Flash) You can just close the case to suspend whenever you wish - lasts ~7 days suspended. You may want either extra batteries, or, extra power. (Parts inbound for car adapters and AC adapters for both the 200LX and the PC110's ) Li-Ion's are nice! The AC power on these is 10.5V, a little unusual, but findable (IBM makes a tiny adapter that comes with, designed for Japanese power, works fine on US 120 VAC though.) The batteries are easy to carry spares of (Li-Ion Camcorder batteries, Sony NP-F550 for example; $50 or less apiece.) They don't last forever, many older ones are getting to the end of their life span about now, unlike NiCad's and NiMH's. Myself, I use both machines, the PC110 for "higher power" applications, the 200LX for typing-style uses. Buy CF cards mostly, then can use them with an adapter in the 200LX, and without the adapter in the PC110 (as e: though that's all configurable.) I just touch type on the PC110, the "japanese" keyboard layout can be ignored until & unless you install a keyboard driver, it thinks it's a full-sized laptop with a small keyboard. (I get weird looks when touch-typing with my thumbs, though ) Getting harder to find PC110's, I like mine though. I'll have to try out a Libretto some day Mark Robert Kawartani wrote: > > The IBM 110 (Ultraman) which is about one form factor larger than a 200lx > has a 33 MHz 486 processor (this is a ball park figure). I assume that you > could find one relatively cheaply these days in Tokyo. However, given your > speed requirements, a older model Toshiba Libretto with a 50+ MHz may be a > better choice. Also makes a good support device for you HP200lx. > > ---------- > > $B:9=P?M (J : John J Vanderstel > > $B08@h (J : HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > $B7oL> (J : FLUFF: DOS on CE or EPIC palmtops/Japanese HP200LX upgrade project > > $BAw?.F|;~ (J : 2000 $BG/ (J 1 $B7n (J 4 $BF| (J ( $B2P (J) 0:41 PM > > > > > Does anyone know which Windows CE DOS option is fastest, CE-XT or Pocket > > DOS? > > > > I don't have a CE palmtop, so I can't test this out. > > > > I'm interested in how fast each one runs DOS programs compared to the > > HP200LX X2 palmtop. > > > > Also, anyone have any updates on the Japanese HP200LX upgrade project? > > Any more info on how an American get ahold of one? > > > > I've got a DOS program that the HP200LX just can't run fast enough. > > (We're talking 2-3 minute waits between functions on my HP200LX 32 Meg X2 > > palmtop.) > > > > I don't want to lug a laptop around. Any other reasonable solutions > > anyone can think of? > > > > Cheers! > > > > John Vander Stel > > Grand Rapids, Michigan > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 03:03:59 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Occasionally happens here. Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin Bergvill wrote: > > On 1 Jan 2000 20:34:15 -0800, Steve Carder wrote: > > > Since the ¨Ýgs "incident" I make really compulsive, redundant backups. My > > 32Meg DS palmtop is backed-up to two "spare" 200LX's kept in seperate > > locations. I also back it up to my desktop and do tape backups (kept off site) > > of the desktop. > > You are a bit more extreme than me :-)) I usually take a backup every > night from my 8mb ds machine to my 24 mb flashcard. Then I insert the > card in my girlfriends laptop and move the contents of the flash to my > desktop through my network. Then I use the desktops cd burner to make a > copy of the files to cd. I take a copy from flashcard to desktop approx > 2 times pr week. And copy to cdburner once every week (a long with a > lot of other things) > > I will soon get myself a backup hplx too. > > The only week point is that I do not store the backup's at a different > location. Maybe I could connect my father to the network too. Its only > about 100 meters.. > > Does anybody have any experience with ethernetnetwork (Tp) over this > distance in a climat which is below 0 celsius most of the year? > > Is the distance too long or what? > > -- > Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway > -Palmtop friendly sig... I forget if the cable lengths on TP can be that long. I use RG-58 coax, myself, and am more familiar with 10Base2 not 10BaseT right now. Whatever you use, if you cannot string it aerially safely, bury it below the frost line (I'll refrain from suggesting, but just mention, PVC break-away sleeving at the ends, and lubricant between the sleeving and the center wires, you've lived there for a while Not everyone's done that or dealt with serious frost heave; tonight it's 25 F outside i.e. -4 C, "Banana Belt" by comparison to the temperatures at the sorted stone circles there tonight ) The thing I'd look into is a Fiber Optics set of repeaters - i.e. go TP to Fiber, then through the ground, then back through a Fiber to TP translator. Otherwise you probably could get by with an opto-isolated repeater at each end, another possibility is a (PCMCIA?) wireless network card at each end (tends to be PRICEY though! I lucked out & will be putting my dad on that, soon - he's across the street here, just far enough away for comfort Want more PCMCIA wireless cards though.) Optoisolation is a *good* idea, lest a ground loop or lightning strike, etc., blow a computer up (The expensive hardware always acts as a fuse to protect the older, cheaper hardware, you already knew that!) Talk to your local good Electronics Supply company - they probably have a Network specialist who solves problems like this regularly. (If you have no luck, feel free to bug me, I know Radar Electric here in Seattle has a good guy on that, I can go talk to him next I'm there, keep meaning to ask as I'll be using 100BaseT anyways when-ever I get to upgrading the Pentii at "work" here, and need to seriously isolate them when I move the "Work" computers for my next big industrial automation job. Bad spikes there.) I'd be worried about burial's affecting the impedance of that TP wire underground - if you have a shielded TP cable that's designed for burial or being put in a metal conduit/tray etc., no problem, best if it's certified for outdoors use. Could also modem things back and forth, if you have a "Spare" phone line, but as IIRC you have to pay for phone usage by the minute, you may not want to do that... E-Mail things to him, ask him to hold those e-mail for a week then delete them? Myself, I "cheat" and backup everything to a network server or two here, for most backups that works fine (unlikely that I'd *survive* anything that'd take this hardware all out!) Mark -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 03:07:46 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Willis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Willis Organization: Occasionally happens here. Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 1 Jan 2000 to 2 Jan 2000 (#2000-3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry Marks wrote: > >I'm working on a small application for the palmtop that I had hoped to > >have ready by now. But in trying to clean it up a little, I've run into > >a quirk with the Turbo C "putenv" function. Do any of you programming > >experts know any hints on using this function? What happens is that > >I pass a string, like VAR=abcxyz, yet this environment variable isn't > >being set, neither by the SET command after program termination nor by > >a subsequent getenv() call from inside the program. > > I can think of a couple of posiblities here. One, probably the most likely, > is that youre out of environment space. I forget whether there's an > error/success return from putenv but if there is you might want to check it. > If you need more there's a parameter on the shell command in config.sys to > set it. SHELL=D:\COMMAND.COM /P /E:2048 would give you 2048 bytes of > environment space. I think the default is 512 or maybe 1024. Double check > the syntax on this. I haven't used it for a while and this is from memory. > > Another possiblity is that youre succeding in setting it but are losing it > before you check it. For example, if you set an environment variable from > inside the program, a SET command won't show it after the program has > terminated. Every program gets it's own copy of the invironment and it's > only setting that copy. However getenv from inside the same program, > assuming that it hasn't terminated and run again, should find it. > > There is a way to set the master environment but it's a bit of a kluge and > probably isn't supported by Turbo C. Code for that is available all over > the web. > > I hope this helps. > > Barry I seem to remember a NASTY bug with setenv(), where it just plain didn't work no matter what you did - We ended up using work-arounds like verifying that the Enviroment had the right variable already set, then switched to making "semaphore" files, on that job. (i.e. If Exist c:\Sets\Option1.Set goto Option1, that sort of functional but painful workaround.) Then finally we got the boss to listen and did it right - called a batch file from the program, passing options as parameters I forget the details (I'm terrible on remembering dates, but remember mis-functionality YEARS later ) Mark -- I re-ship for small US & overseas businesses, world-wide. (For private individuals at cost; ask.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 06:29:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nxw988e@TNINET.SE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: BLUETOOTH MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello! I read an article in a swedish handheldmagazine about Ericssons new so = called Bluetooth radiotechnique. It is a radiotechnique which will make it possible to transfer data and = speech wirelessly over short distances between your handhelds/desktops/mo= dems/mobilephones. No cables whatsoever will be needed according to the article.The alternat= ive of today is IR but its limitations in reach and free space between = the devices communicating has not Bluetooth. Ericsson cooperates with Intel,Nokia,IBM,Toshiba and others. The reach is suppose to be about 10 meters.And already later this year = will Ericsson start selling Bluetooth as directly integrateable(can I say = so?) with mobilephones and desktops,for the latter as a pc-card. And how about us LX-users? Well,here is a little nice picture of a PCMCIA-card on which is written:BL= UETOOTH... I have emailed Ericsson about this PCMCIA-card,asking about how much = current it takes etc,but just got the answer to return in a couple of = month. But imagine guys,sitting in the sofa with your LX, synchronizing with = your desktop and modem without having to leave it when downloading = emails,taking backups,transfering files etc AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH..... Lars Hedstroem/Sweden PS:For they who wonder about the odd name"Bluetooth",there was a famoust = Viking named:Harald Bluetooth.I think it is from him,he was btw a norwegia= n. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 04:11:54 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff: Ramblings and Ruminations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 4 Jan 2000 00:20:08 -0600, David Ball wrote: > The 320LX is a fascinating WinCE unit. After playing with it for a few > The screen is quite nice...the wider view is especially good. And of > course...the backlight is a superb feature. On the whole, I'm not sure if > I'll keep the unit for a great length of time. I wanted to dip my toe into > the WindowsCE world without breaking my bank, and this unit will allow me > to delve to my satisfaction. It will be an interesting excursion, that's > for sure. Will it surprise you to know that the width is the same on 200LX and 320LX - both at 640 pixels? The height of the 320 is 40 more pixels - 240 vs. 200 on the 200LX. Interesting that you were attracted by the wider view - they must do some usage engineering to give that impression. Enjoy the machine! > And as far as the RAM card...yahoo! Now I can store many more programs on > my 200LX. The 4 megabyte limitation was pressing me tightly. I look > forward to loading it up with stuff. If your usage pattern is similar to other palmtoppers, then you'll run out of space in about 10-15% of the time you initially estimated :-) ... Avi The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A Software response, please write to: support@dasoft.com and check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 07:28:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Malka Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Malka Subject: Re: Genealogy on the hplx Comments: To: JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now that it has been determined that family Scrapbook is Y2k compliant, I have to tell you that it is by far the best DOS (and possibly even windows) program for it. The features, sources, reporting,, etc are really incredible. The biggest problem is that the author seems to have dissappeared. Jeff Malka ----- Original Message ----- From: Jez Cunningham To: Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 2:53 AM Subject: Genealogy on the hplx > No-one seems to have mentioned the shareware program 'Brothers Keeper' > which can run on DOS and Windows using the same data files. > > http://home.sprynet.com/~steed/homepage.htm > > br > Jez > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:44:46 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Pierre VIGNACQ Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Pierre VIGNACQ Subject: French HP-100LX for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list. My HP-100LX is unused for months now and is looking for a new employer... You can make offers to me at Pierre.VIGNACQ@turbomeca.fr Configuration for sale following : - HP-100LX, french edition, 1Mo - 5Mo + stacker (10Mo) HP flash PCMCIA flash card - serial cable - connectivity PC software - HP power supply - genuine hand crafted custom leather case with pen holder - Box, books... - lot of DOS S/W on floppies (about 15Mo). I'll be glad to answer your questions. Best regards and best wishes for this new year! ----------------------------------------------------- Pierre VIGNACQ TURBOMECA - Service Electronique / Electronic Section Email : Pierre.VIGNACQ@turbomeca.fr Phone : +33 - 5 59 12 55 34 Fax : +33 - 5 59 12 51 48 ----------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 07:52:45 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Hocking Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Hocking Subject: Re: Printing from Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Robert > What kind of cable do you use? I have a Epson Stylus Printer - it's a > parallel printer. > As I understand it, I have to have a conversion from Serial to Parallel or > am I wrong. > Thanks > Doug Mc Vey I use a Belkin's serial-to-parallel converter cable, that I plug into my HP connectivity cable. Hopefully without starting another endless thread on the Greenwich's serial-to-parallel converter, I tried that one first, but it would not print from any of my DOS applications, and Greenwich confirmed that they new that, and returned my money. There are users on the list that claim they have it working with their DOS applications, so take that for what it is worth. My Belkin's cable was almost $100.00, so they are not cheap, but it works great. I was able to obtain a second one at a computer store going out of business, for like $30.00, so I use one at work, and one at home. They print fine to either of my Laserjets, or inkjets. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:15:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nxw988e@TNINET.SE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: What info is covered by the serial number? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One guy wrote: > Hi, > I want to buy a second hand HP 200LX (1MB or more) with > > Please indicate serial number I also have the intention to buy a back-up unit and wonder what informatio= n you can get from the serial number? Atleast the manufacturing year I hope? Lars Hedstroem/Sweden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:20:00 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: TrueSync by Starfish Comments: To: "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > This sounds great! I'm not much of a programmer, but I might be able > make myself available as a tester, as soon as I can get a Rex. Please > keep us informed about this project. Thanks. Anyone know if they've improved the durability of the little, easily broken, battery doors? When I tested one with the HP-wince sync software, the salesman managed to snap off a door with relative ease, I thought. The sync software worked by the way but I did not buy the Rex! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:19:57 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Marks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Marks Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 3 Jan 2000 to 4 Jan 2000 - Special issue (#2000-6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >We got a call from a customer today: ><works for him to print out of programs in System Manager. However, he >cannot get it to print from his DOS programs (Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect). >What he can do is "print to a file", then go out to the DOS prompt and do >the print file command from there. He just can' t print directly from the >program.>> >I am not sure why he is running Lotus 2.4 from DOS. Does anyone have any >suggestions? What problem does he have trying to print from 123 or WP? Is there an error message? One thing that occurs to me is that they might be trying to send to LPT1: or PRN, being lx unaware programs that don't know to use the serial port. If that's the case a MODE command can redirect the printer output to the serial port. The built in print command might have been modified to use the serial port. However, its also possible that PRN is already redircted but that 123 and WP are trying to write directly to the parallel port hardware. If that's the case they probably have setup options to deal with this. I do remember that both programs did have a lot of setup options but I don't remember just what they are. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 07:24:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: What info is covered by the serial number? Comments: To: nxw988e@TNINET.SE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is covered in the FAQ (the list sig line has the URL that points to hplx.net which has a copy). --------------------- Q. What information is encoded in the serial number? The week it was manufactured. A serial number is of the form: SGywwnnnnn Where y is the last digit of the year of manufacture, ww is the week of manufacture, and nnnnn is the individual serial number. Thus SG45101234 is the 1234th unit manufactured in the 51st week of 1994. The "SG" is the country of origin (apparently all are manufactured in Singapore). --------------------- - Longden Lars Hedstroem on 01/05/2000 07:15:10 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to nxw988e@TNINET.SE To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: What info is covered by the serial number? One guy wrote: > Hi, > I want to buy a second hand HP 200LX (1MB or more) with > > Please indicate serial number I also have the intention to buy a back-up unit and wonder what information you can get from the serial number? Atleast the manufacturing year I hope? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:17:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: S-P & DOS apps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:06:47 -0500 (EST) Hi folks - I see that once again, we're discussing whether or not some S-P converters will work with DOS. I have no reason to doubt anyone's statements about success or failure of any particular device. However, if a S-P converter fails in any given app, it's very unlikely to be anything to do with DOS. S-P converters are simple devices that do a simple job -- they aren't windoze plug-and-pray. The S-P convertor has no way to determine the source of the serial data stream, so they don't know or care if you're running in DOS. The most likely explanation of failure in DOS apps is a problem with the xon-xoff handshaking. The app may be waiting for an initial xon before starting printing. I've had this happen occasionally with some apps, and found that if the printer is set off-line when connection to the LX is made, and placed back on-line when the app is running, but before trying to print, everything works. HTH Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:59:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Souza, Stephen Mr (C623D)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Souza, Stephen Mr (C623D)" Subject: Re: S-P & DOS apps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I have used the Belkin unit and printed from Word Star 4.0, I had to configure it to use the serial port. I like the unit because it does not require a battery and was cheap to purchase ($25.00) I have not had a problem with it other than setup/configuration of the serial port. Stephen Souza System Administrator COMNAVSURFLANT *TEL: (757) 836-3204 *DSN: 836-3204 *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil > -----Original Message----- > From: Peniel Romanelli ÝSMTP:peniel@WEB2000.NET¨ > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 09:17 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: S-P & DOS apps > > Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:06:47 -0500 (EST) > > Hi folks - > > I see that once again, we're discussing whether or not some S-P > converters will work with DOS. I have no reason to doubt anyone's > statements about success or failure of any particular device. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:51:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: What info is covered by the serial number? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just noticed that there's a detailed explanation of serial numbers in the FAQ done by David Sargeant and available on HPLX.net .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 09:53:36 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Someone named "prolink1" is a consistent buyer on all the 200LX offers on ebay. This was discussed a few months ago, when prolink had a different email address (was prolink@icanect.net , now it's prolink1@gate.net). Does anyone know who this buyer is? Seems we never got beyond speculation back in October. Is there any way to make a cursory check on the person/people behind an email address? Maybe someone should offer a broken 200LX on ebay as bait . - Longden (who's waiting for a good conspiracy theory) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:25:35 -0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Carlos A Rodrigues Alves Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Carlos A Rodrigues Alves Subject: Exponential Calculations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain A simple question? How to calculate X¬Y on the HP200LX Calc? thanks, Carlos ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:48:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Batson, Dale N" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Batson, Dale N" Subject: Re: Exponential Calculations MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > How to calculate X¬Y on the HP200LX Calc? > > thanks, > Carlos > Go to the calculator and choose "Math" under "Applications", then enter the value for "y", then "*", then "x", then press "LN", then press "=", and finally press "LN". This procedure is based on the fact that e¬(y ln x) = x¬y. Dale ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:54:51 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , neill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: neill Subject: Parallel Printer Link Cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I bought a battery-powered Parallel Printer Link cable for a Psion 3c on Ebay for $9. I can always use it with the 3c, but I was wondering if anyone on the List had either, made up a cable adapter to enable switching it between the 3c and a HP 200LX, or if they had simply modified the end so that it only fitted the 200LX ?? Any pointers will be appreciated..........Neill. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:52:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Batson, Dale N" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Batson, Dale N" Subject: Re: Exponential Calculations MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > How to calculate X¬Y on the HP200LX Calc? > > > > thanks, > > Carlos > > > Whoops... Last step should be "E¬X", not "LN". > Go to the calculator and choose "Math" under "Applications", then > enter the value for "y", then "*", then "x", then press "LN", then > press "=", and finally press "E¬X". This procedure is based on the > fact that e¬(y ln x) = x¬y. > > Dale > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:01:06 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) In-Reply-To: <8825685D.0062640E.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Someone named "prolink1" is a consistent buyer on all the 200LX offers on ebay. > > Does anyone know who this buyer is? Seems we never got beyond speculation back > in October. > > Maybe someone should offer a broken 200LX on ebay as bait . He buy's those too, at premium prices. This guy has driven the price of the 95/100/200LX up to occasionally rediculous levels. Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 10:43:57 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Exponential Calculations Comments: To: Carlos A Rodrigues Alves Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't you just enter it like that? 2¬3= should give you 8 - Longden Carlos A Rodrigues Alves on 01/05/2000 10:25:35 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Carlos A Rodrigues Alves To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Exponential Calculations A simple question? How to calculate X¬Y on the HP200LX Calc? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:05:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) Comments: To: Mike Kopplin Send him an email? >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Kopplin Ýmailto:kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU¨ >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 2:01 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) > > >> Someone named "prolink1" is a consistent buyer on all the >200LX offers on ebay. >> >> Does anyone know who this buyer is? Seems we never got >beyond speculation back >> in October. >> >> Maybe someone should offer a broken 200LX on ebay as bait . > >He buy's those too, at premium prices. This guy has driven the price of >the 95/100/200LX up to occasionally rediculous levels. > >Mike > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:36:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nxw988e@TNINET.SE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Exponential Calculations Comments: To: "Batson, Dale N" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dale wrote: N". This procedure is based on the > fact that e¬(y ln x) =3D x¬y. Are you really sure about this? Cause e¬(y lnx)=3De¬y e¬lnx=3De¬y x Which according to you would be the same as x¬y,that is: e¬y x=3Dx¬y Proof it,otherwise you will not convince me:-) Lars Hedstroem/Sweden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:46:39 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: French HP-100LX for sale Comments: To: Pierre VIGNACQ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pierre, > My HP-100LX is unused for months now and is looking for a new employer..= . > You can make offers to me at Pierre.VIGNACQ@turbomeca.fr > > Configuration for sale following : > - HP-100LX, french edition, 1Mo > - 5Mo + stacker (10Mo) HP flash PCMCIA flash card > - serial cable > - connectivity PC software > - HP power supply > - genuine hand crafted custom leather case with pen holder > - Box, books... > - lot of DOS S/W on floppies (about 15Mo). > > I'll be glad to answer your questions. > Best regards and best wishes for this new year! I am very intersted in the unit itself. I am living in Germany and would be glad, if you could provide your price idea. Regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:23:38 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) Comments: To: Ed Padin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What a concept! - Longden Ed Padin on 01/05/2000 11:05:13 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Ed Padin To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) Send him an email? >> Someone named "prolink1" is a consistent buyer on all the >200LX offers on ebay. >> >> Does anyone know who this buyer is? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:59:45 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: fluff: apology MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the British flu (virus/grippe) has infiltrated central France, and my hospital, and me. I am out of action for a while and cannot write (concentrate) e-mail. I apologise to all of you who are waiting for a reply from me. I will write to you in a few days time. Right now i feel like i don't need an LX sent, but flowers for my burial. a bientot Nathalie ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:51:53 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Printing from Lotus 2.4 and WordPerfect MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks to all who replied. Guess I know where to get technical support for our technical support. Hal at Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 11:15:27 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Glenn Kesselman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Glenn Kesselman Subject: Re: outlook to 200lx Comments: To: Ed Padin In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I just used this program to import to Outlook, export to Palm, it works well. Glenn At 12:14 PM 1/4/00 -0500, you wrote: >Doesn't Curtis Cameron's OL2LX program do this? > >http://members.aol.com/FreeWhL44/lxgames.html > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Patrick West Ýmailto:patrickwest@USWEST.NET¨ > >Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 4:03 AM > >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > >Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ outlook to 200lx > > > > > >Folks, > > > >I have a nice dos program that died Y2K. In looking at > >replacements for it I am wondering if anyone knows of a tool > >to export an outlook event to a 200lx adb file event? > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:27:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rundel Datentechnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rundel Datentechnik Subject: Re: WARNING - some postal workers are thieves, and Storms and Nathalie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nathalie wrote: > i sent my 200lx on Nov.18 priority mail to Thaddeus for 2x speed upgrade, > and Jon wrote that it has not arrived and that i should get worried it may > be lost (to some greedy postal worker) Sorry to hear that. Next time you may want to send it to us instead, we're located in Germany and do all memory and speed upgrades as well. Actually, we are the only authorized Times2Tech dealer in Europe and Asia. Sending stuff within the EC is no problem at all and reasonably fast. Tom Rundel Datentechnik, Germany www.rundel.net/palmtop ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:35:55 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Delete /? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like to delete all *.bak files in all subdirectories. del *.bak /s doesn't work. Any other idea? Regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:43:29 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Can I put cf card to sleep while still in slot? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a Hp200lx 8mb ds and a 24mb cf card w/adapter. I have moved all the files I use daily to the c drive. But I want to know if I can put the cf card to sleep somehow while it is still in the slot? I have noticed a big batterylife increase now that I remove the cfcard from the slot. But can I run something to power down the slot or do I have to remove the card? (Btw the little pocket in my jeans is perfect for a cf card :-)) -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -Palmtop friendly sig... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:45:16 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Batson, Dale N" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Batson, Dale N" Subject: Re: Delete /? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Try this: del /s *.bak Dale > I like to delete all *.bak files in all subdirectories. > > del *.bak /s doesn't work. > > Any other idea? > > Regards > > Helmuth > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:00:59 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Delete /? Comments: To: "Batson, Dale N" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dale, > Try this: > > del /s *.bak Thank you for the answer. Response: Invalid switch. Regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:08:44 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Can I put cf card to sleep while still in slot? Comments: To: Martin Bergvill Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm surprised there's a power problem with a CF card. What brand are you using? And what kind of battery life are you getting without removing the card? My Sandisk 48mb CF card and Simple Technology adapter use a lot less power than any of my previous PCMCIA cards. Stefan Peichl's LXCIC utility can power some card modems on/off, but I'm not sure about CF memory. - Longden Martin Bergvill on 01/05/2000 12:43:29 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Martin Bergvill To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Can I put cf card to sleep while still in slot? I have a Hp200lx 8mb ds and a 24mb cf card w/adapter. I have moved all the files I use daily to the c drive. But I want to know if I can put the cf card to sleep somehow while it is still in the slot? I have noticed a big batterylife increase now that I remove the cfcard from the slot. But can I run something to power down the slot or do I have to remove the card? (Btw the little pocket in my jeans is perfect for a cf card :-)) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:09:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nxw988e@TNINET.SE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Re: Exponential Calculations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dale,you were right and I wrong.I did the mistake to believe that: a¬(b*c)=3Da¬b*a¬c It is simple to check,cause: 10¬(2*3)=3Dis not=3D10¬2*10¬3 Sorry,it is a while since I used these formulas... Your proof here I can folllow and it seems to be right. Lars > Let X¬Y =3D Z, then > > ln(X¬Y) =3D ln(Z), but ln(X¬Y) =3D Y*ln(X), so > > Y*ln(X) =3D ln(Z), then > > e¬(Y*ln(X)) =3D e¬(ln(Z)), but e¬(ln(Z)) =3D Z, so > > e¬(Y*ln(X)) =3D Z, so > > X¬Y =3D e¬(Y*ln(X)) > > Dale > > > ---------- > > From: =09nxw988e@tninet.seÝSMTP:nxw988e@tninet.se¨ > > Sent: =09Wednesday, January 05, 2000 12:36 PM > > To: =09HPLX Mailing List; Batson, Dale N > > Subject: =09Re: Exponential Calculations > > > > Dale wrote: > > > > N". This procedure is based on the > > > > > fact that e¬(y ln x) =3D x¬y. > > > > > > Are you really sure about this? > > > > Cause e¬(y lnx)=3De¬y e¬lnx=3De¬y x > > > > Which according to you would be the same as x¬y,that is: > > > > > > e¬y x=3Dx¬y > > > > > > Proof it,otherwise you will not convince me:-) > > > > Lars Hedstroem/Sweden > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:22:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: Exponential Calculations Comments: To: nxw988e@TNINET.SE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Back to algebra class. a¬(b*c) _is not_ (a¬b)*(a¬c) as you imply with `e¬(y lnx) = e¬y e¬lnx' The proper proof is based on the fact that: a¬(b*c) = (a¬b)¬c (think about it: (a¬b)¬c is (a¬b) multiplied by itself `c' times (a¬b) (a¬b) ... (a¬b) = a ¬ (b + b + ... b) (law of exponents) = a ¬ (b * c) So the proof is really simple: e¬(y*lnx) = e¬((lnx)*y) (simple commutativity) = (e¬(ln x))¬y = x¬y Lars Hedstroem wrote: > > Dale wrote: > > N". This procedure is based on the > > > fact that e¬(y ln x) = x¬y. > > Are you really sure about this? > > Cause e¬(y lnx)=e¬y e¬lnx=e¬y x > > Which according to you would be the same as x¬y,that is: > > e¬y x=x¬y > > Proof it,otherwise you will not convince me:-) > > Lars Hedstroem/Sweden > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:38:25 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: DOS genealogy programs Comments: To: Jeff Malka In-Reply-To: <002001bf5716$2b70c110$3d0a37ce@jsm> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes, I was relieved as well. This is the best (in my opinion) full-featured geneology program I've found for DOS. I hadn't noticed that cosmetic feature you mentioned, but I did a backup, and you're right! Mine says: Last backup : 5-Jan-2000 (3653 days ago If this is the only feature that pops up, I will gladly keep using the program. At least is shows the date when the last backup was performed correctly. At 07:41 PM 1/4/00 -0500, you wrote: >Actually, I am delighted to say I was wrong. I did have a problem in that >when I added a date in 2000 the program repeatedly crashed. That obviously >worried the dickens out of me because this is such an excellent program. >However when I re-indexed all its files (utility section) that problem went >away - whew!! > >There does remain a minor cosmetic problem however: I backed up the data >(using its own backup utility) and even though I did the backup yesterday >the opening screen says: > >"Last backup : 3-Jan-2000 (3654 days ago)" > >That is so even though the appointment sceen on the LX shows the date >correctly as 2000 and when I exit into DOS the date function says 2000 (not >00). What does your FSB says after you back it up? Regards, David Ball mailto:dmb10@swbell.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:49:26 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: Fluff: Ramblings and Ruminations Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <200001051211.EAA31654@ftel.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:11 AM 1/5/00 -0800, you wrote: >Will it surprise you to know that the width is the same on >200LX and 320LX - both at 640 pixels? > >The height of the 320 is 40 more pixels - 240 vs. 200 on >the 200LX. > >Interesting that you were attracted by the wider view - >they must do some usage engineering to give that >impression. It does surprise me, indeed. Even looking at the units side by side, the 320LX screen appears wider. I wonder why that is? Good usage engineering, indeed. >Enjoy the machine! I am, but it's more of a curiousity than a real tool. My wife discovered the Solitaire game, so I'm pretty sure what the unit is going to be designated for...a game machine. More on my impressions in another message. >If your usage pattern is similar to other palmtoppers, then >you'll run out of space in about 10-15% of the time you >initially estimated :-) ... Yes, but isn't that period of time just sheer heaven? Regards, David Ball mailto:dmb10@swbell.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:55:00 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: Genealogy on the hplx Comments: To: Jeff Malka In-Reply-To: <004801bf5778$dfd78a00$3d0a37ce@jsm> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:28 AM 1/5/00 -0500, you wrote: >Now that it has been determined that family Scrapbook is Y2k compliant, I >have to tell you that it is by far the best DOS (and possibly even windows) >program for it. The features, sources, reporting,, etc are really >incredible. Indeed. This has been my experience as well. After downloading and experimenting with about 10 different DOS and Windows programs, FSB has been the best full-featured program in this area that I've seen. Of course, as always, YMMV. >The biggest problem is that the author seems to have dissappeared. Indeed. I would gladly register this program. Regards, David Ball mailto:dmb10@swbell.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:37:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers Comments: To: "John A. Evans - N0HJ" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Surely a slip of the pen... No early computer had even 1 `Meg' of RAM. We paid about $8,000 to buy 32 K for one of our earliest machines, and our first HUGE HD was 5 meg. By the time the PC came around, we had RAMs of up to 64K, with the first big `breakthrough' to 256K. Remember the first 5 1/4'' floppies carried only about 300K, eventually going to `quad density' drives that took just over a meg. Early floppies were generally much bigger than the RAMs of the time. "John A. Evans - N0HJ" wrote: > > Folks, > > My first PC was a Northstar Horizon S100 based computer, built as a kit. It > had 32Meg of Ram and I splurged and bought dual 5 1/4" drives with it. My > wife > then bought be a memory card a few months later - 16Meg for around $350 as > a kit !!!! > > I modified and enhanced this computer for several years, adding 8 inch floppy > > drives and putting CP/M on it until giving it away because it was a boatanchor > to > keep shipping it at each military move - the garbage man wanted to play with > it > so it was his. > > john - n0hj ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:50:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My first computer was an ERA1103 (later Univac 1103) at the University of Minnesota in 1955. Programmed with the then ubiquitous punched paper tape in absolute octal. Easy to program too, particularly after training (but never actually working on) Harvard's MarkI. I was the only person in Minneapolis who regularly checked Vol I of the `Annals of the Harvard Computer Center' out of the library. In those days the records were kept in the books themselves, so you could always see who had checked out books, and I was apparently the _only_ reader of that particular volume. IIRC memory was 1024 36 bit `words' and each bit was actually visible on the panel of 36 cathode ray tubes that stored the bit in a (visible) 32 by 32 array that you could actually read if you had the patience. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:56:50 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jerome V Healy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jerome V Healy Organization: Netscape Online member Subject: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------91A92F9DAE866E4641873F0B" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------91A92F9DAE866E4641873F0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As we all know HP has discontinued the HP200LX and plans no comparable successor. Despite the explosion of WinCE, Palm, and Epoc machines on the market, there are none that offer the HPLX combination of PC compatibility, flexibility, near ideal form factor, long battery life, and terrific software library. I have an idea for a hardware hack that should make the HP100/200LX more robust and longer lasting, and also overcome the notorious hinge/lid cracking problem. It is this:- A METAL BODY SHELL to replace the existing moulded plastic body of the HP100/200LX. This would have exactly the same dimensions as the the current plastic body, differing only where needed to facilitate metal manufacture. There would also be some improvements to the hinge design. Existing battery covers, PC card doors, and red translucent plastic covers to the IrDA port and backup battery would be re-used. The innards of the 200LX would simply (I hope) be installed into the new body shell. The new body shell would be screwed together rather than snap together. The units would be machined from high grade lightweight aircraft alloy, to the highest precision, using CNC machinery. Various finishes would be available. Polished aluminium, non-slip crackle finish (like old cine cameras), and variously coloured anodized finishes. Other minor improvements could include a dust seal between the keyboard and lid, and a dust cover for the serial port. Also, holes in the bottom beneath the speaker to improve audio and facilitate tone dialling. I would like feedback on the feasibility of this idea from people who are adept at dismantling the HP100/200LX, and those who have experience in the mechanical design of small portable devices. If anyone can tell me where I can obtain engineering drawings for the HPLX body, this would be a great advantage. Is there a hardware manual in the public domain?. Finally, if manufacture in metal is not possible, it might be possible to make a more robust carbon reinforced plastic body shell with an improved hinge design. All comments / ideas welcome. ********************************* Does anyone have any statistics on hinge/lid cracking, I want to know what proportion of 100/200LX's suffer the problem? ********************************* The PC card drive in my desktop computer is not working properly since New Years Day. Although the PC card Icon in control panel tells me the device and driver are installed OK, the drive does not show up at the DOS prompt or in any of my file management applications. Has anyone experienced this problem or know of a fix? ******************************** I recently bought a Lexor 80 MB '4 speed', 'digital film' compact flash card (I bought this because I could not find a stockist of SanDisk.). It seems to drain the batteries in my 200 LX very quickly, and also it's read speed is very slow. I checked Lexor's web site for performance figures for the card, but but only those for speed are given ( although they claim that it's fast write speed saves power). Has anyone got comparative power consumption / read-write speed figures for different makes of compact flash cards. How many actual manufacturers are there (I have heard that there are only 2, with most cards being re-badged)?. Jerome V. Healy --------------91A92F9DAE866E4641873F0B Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="j.v.healy.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jerome V Healy Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="j.v.healy.vcf" begin:vcard n:Healy;Jerome V. tel;fax:(44)0181 579 7130 tel;home:(44)0181 579 7130 x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:j.v.healy@talk21.com fn:Jerome V. Healy end:vcard --------------91A92F9DAE866E4641873F0B-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:26:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: TrueSync by Starfish Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmm, didn't have any problem with mine. How/why do they usually break? Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: F. Kaufman To: Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 7:20 AM Subject: Re: TrueSync by Starfish > > This sounds great! I'm not much of a programmer, but I might be able > > make myself available as a tester, as soon as I can get a Rex. Please > > keep us informed about this project. Thanks. > > Anyone know if they've improved the durability of the little, easily > broken, battery doors? When I tested one with the HP-wince sync > software, the salesman managed to snap off a door with relative ease, I > thought. The sync software worked by the way but I did not buy the Rex! > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:03:37 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Delete /? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't think the /s option was available on DOS 5.0's DEL command. My preferred way to do this would be Xtree (showall files on the drive with name *.bak, tag them and delete them). There's also a PC Magazine freeware utility called SWEEP which performs a designated command across all subdirectories. Also the WHEREIS.EXM program on SUPER lets you execute a command on all designated files of a drive. I'm sure the other alternatives are endless, but I don't think there's a native 200LX solution. - Longden "Guenther Helmuth E." on 01/05/2000 12:35:55 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to "Guenther Helmuth E." To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Delete /? I like to delete all *.bak files in all subdirectories. del *.bak /s doesn't work. Any other idea? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:58:05 -0800 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jerome V Healy wrote: > > > I would like feedback on the feasibility of this idea This idea comes up from time to time. I may be wrong but I believe the common consensus was that the set-up costs to do this are huge making the cost per unit too high to be practical. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:20:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: Re: Delete /? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Helmuth; You can do a "DIR /F /S *.BAK > delete.bat". That will place the fully qualified name of all *.bak files into a file called delete.bat. That can be edited to insert the "DEL " to the front of each line to make it a real batch file. This can be automated if you have an appropriate editor (such as edlin or a unix editor clone). HTH Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:57:38 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: TrueSync by Starfish Comments: To: Sidney Ho MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Sidney Ho To: Fryday Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 7:24 AM Subject: Re: TrueSync by Starfish > Hi Philippe, > > Greetings! I'm really excited about reading your various posts on the LX and > Rex3/Rex5 Pro. Cool! Glad so many people are excited about it! The Wow factor of the REX and of TrueSync is pretty high, and as soon as I saw them I just stared wishing about the possibility of connecting and synchronizing my LX with those product! > I've been meaning to get back to the USA for a while and have a mountain of > various stuff waiting for me including some eBay purchases. I bought 4 Rex / > Rex Pros at closeout and on eBay. If the little Rex can be made to sync with > the LX it really would give the LX a new lease on life (and allow me to > miniaturize several size factors. Even a Toshiba Libretto isn't all that > convenient and I'm not ready to give up my LX for any CE palmtop. I'm still not sure it what path will be the easiest. The options we have are: 1 Direct LX to REX syncing: pros: nothing else needed cons: requires exact mapping of REX data, no easy way to sync with other PDAs and software 2 LX to TrueSync: pros: allows you to sync with a bunch of other PDAs and software, connectivity kit will be available cons: need a PC to sync > > Here's a link you may find useful: > > http://www.linkmagnet.com/rex/rextalk.html > Cool site. I'll keep checking... > BTW, Xircom bought Rex from Franklin and is rumored to be developing it > further for PC's and possibly Macs. Might be worth contacting them too. Hmm, my guess is that DOS is probably the last of their worries, but if they change the data format, we might have to know about it. It's probably a bit early to ask them... Any idea what the best approach would be with them? > I'm toying with the idea of picking up a Sony Viao 1024 x 480 (spiritual and > superior/lighter successor to the Libretto to support the LX and Rex devices > and lighten my load. Been looking at those, but for the price/size, my Omnibook 600CT does the job. And I love the little mouse! > I don't know much about the programming side, though, but would certainly be > a extremely interested user and willing to pay for whatever product got > developed. Cool! > I'll follow this very interesting thread. You can also feel free to mail me > off list. > > Best of luck & TIA! Thanks! I'll make sure to keep everyone posted! Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:09:49 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And tell him you might want to sell him a LX... Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Padin To: Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 11:05 AM Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) > Send him an email? > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mike Kopplin Ýmailto:kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU¨ > >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 2:01 PM > >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) > > > > > >> Someone named "prolink1" is a consistent buyer on all the > >200LX offers on ebay. > >> > >> Does anyone know who this buyer is? Seems we never got > >beyond speculation back > >> in October. > >> > >> Maybe someone should offer a broken 200LX on ebay as bait . > > > >He buy's those too, at premium prices. This guy has driven the price of > >the 95/100/200LX up to occasionally rediculous levels. > > > >Mike > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:17:20 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things Comments: To: Jerome V Healy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you been at all involved (or know people who have) in such precision metal casing manufacturing? If it was made available, I'd go for it and pay some good money. Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerome V Healy To: Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 1:56 PM Subject: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things > As we all know HP has discontinued the HP200LX and plans no comparable > successor. Despite the explosion of WinCE, Palm, and Epoc machines on > the market, there are none that offer the HPLX combination of PC > compatibility, flexibility, near ideal form factor, long battery life, > and terrific software library. > > I have an idea for a hardware hack that should make the HP100/200LX more > robust and longer lasting, and also overcome the notorious hinge/lid > cracking problem. It is this:- > > A METAL BODY SHELL to replace the existing moulded plastic body of the > HP100/200LX. This would have exactly the same dimensions as the the > current plastic body, differing only where needed to facilitate metal > manufacture. There would also be some improvements to the hinge > design. Existing battery covers, PC card doors, and red translucent > plastic covers to the IrDA port and backup battery would be re-used. > The innards of the 200LX would simply (I hope) be installed into the new > body shell. The new body shell would be screwed together rather than > snap together. > > The units would be machined from high grade lightweight aircraft alloy, > to the highest precision, using CNC machinery. Various finishes would > be available. Polished aluminium, non-slip crackle finish (like old > cine cameras), and variously coloured anodized finishes. Other minor > improvements could include a dust seal between the keyboard and lid, and > a dust cover for the serial port. Also, holes in the bottom beneath the > speaker to improve audio and facilitate tone dialling. > > I would like feedback on the feasibility of this idea from people who > are adept at dismantling the HP100/200LX, and those who have experience > in the mechanical design of small portable devices. If anyone can tell > me where I can obtain engineering drawings for the HPLX body, this would > be a great advantage. Is there a hardware manual in the public > domain?. Finally, if manufacture in metal is not possible, it might be > possible to make a more robust carbon reinforced plastic body shell with > an improved hinge design. > > All comments / ideas welcome. > > ********************************* > > Does anyone have any statistics on hinge/lid cracking, I want to know > what proportion of 100/200LX's suffer the problem? > > ********************************* > > The PC card drive in my desktop computer is not working properly since > New Years Day. Although the PC card Icon in control panel tells me the > device and driver are installed OK, the drive does not show up at the > DOS prompt or in any of my file management applications. Has anyone > experienced this problem or know of a fix? > > ******************************** > > I recently bought a Lexor 80 MB '4 speed', 'digital film' compact flash > card (I bought this because I could not find a stockist of SanDisk.). > It seems to drain the batteries in my 200 LX very quickly, and also it's > read speed is very slow. I checked Lexor's web site for performance > figures for the card, but but only those for speed are given ( although > they claim that it's fast write speed saves power). Has anyone got > comparative power consumption / read-write speed figures for different > makes of compact flash cards. How many actual manufacturers are there > (I have heard that there are only 2, with most cards being re-badged)?. > > Jerome V. Healy > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:30:11 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Already did. No bites. Of course, he may be a lurker on this list, or even a regular member with a different email id. - Longden Fryday on 01/05/2000 02:09:49 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Fryday To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) And tell him you might want to sell him a LX... Philippe > Send him an email? > > > > >> Someone named "prolink1" is a consistent buyer on all the > >200LX offers on ebay. > >> > >> Does anyone know who this buyer is? Seems we never got > >beyond speculation back > >> in October. > >> > >> Maybe someone should offer a broken 200LX on ebay as bait . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:15:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Malka Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Malka Subject: Re: Genealogy on the hplx Comments: To: David Ball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >The biggest problem is that the author seems to have dissappeared. > > Indeed. I would gladly register this program. I did, years ago. Still dissappeared. Jeff Malka ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:40:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: More Lxpic Comments: To: Tom Salwasser MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >>my preferred (desktop) picture viewer QPV<< > Thanks Russ! Where can I find a copy? You can find it at: http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~inof/bin/qpv17e.zip cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:55:20 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , robert c lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: robert c lewis Subject: Quicken version.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know which version of quicken (for Dos) the Pocket Quicken is closest to? I was thinking of finding a copy of the manuals so I can better understand the pocket version on the LX. Thanks, Rob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 00:02:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Can I put cf card to sleep while still in slot? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 5 Jan 2000 13:27:23 -0800, Longden Loo wrote: > I'm surprised there's a power problem with a CF card. Not a problem, but I notice now that the card draws some extra power that decreases the batterylife. I have suspected this for a while. Since I now o not use the card that much I have increased my batterylife even though I now have more internal ram and speed.. > What brand are you using? I have a Sandisk 24 cf and a adapter.. > And what kind of battery life are you getting without > removing the card? Hmm I have to think.. I just got it back from upgrade. I think I got about 6 hours with some crappy NI-Cd I have. This was before getting it speeddoubled and memoryupgraded. I have not yet tested the same Ni-Cd with the card in the slot and not in the slot. I will do that some time soon.. > My Sandisk 48mb CF card and Simple Technology adapter use a lot less power than > any of my previous PCMCIA cards. I have some alkalain batteries that I want to use before I go back to the Ni-Cd again. I notice that if the battery is below 2.50 somewhere and I insert the card the hp drops real fast to about 2.35 of even below that. I can not run for a long time now until it blacks out. But If I pull the card out I can go for many hours more.. > Stefan Peichl's LXCIC utility can power some card modems on/off, but I'm not > sure about CF memory. I have tried this but it did not work. It still draws power. I will try to end Filer and see what it will do then.. I will make some tests when I run out of alkalines and get back to you on batterylife with or without card on my Ni-Cd. Bye -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -Palmtop friendly sig... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:23:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> would like feedback on the feasibility of this idea >This idea comes up from time to time. I may be wrong but I >believe the common consensus was that the set-up costs to >do this are huge making the cost per unit too high to be >practical. Yeah, I think the last time we had this discussion, Jeff Johns and Mack opted for a kevlar bullet proof shell, while I was proposing spraying the outside with a rubberized truckbed liner. The things we do with time on our hands . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:25:23 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Ness Remembered the first 5 1/4'' floppies carried only about 300K, I recall that my first privately owned computer used single sided 5.25" disks. I think the limit was a whopping 180K bytes. Ah those were the days. I also recall one student who pulled his disk out of his bib overall pocket, unfolded it once and then once again and jammed it in the drive. It almost worked until the drive head was destroyed. Or how about the many students who thought they had to format a disk each time they put it in the drive and then wondered where all their work went. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:25:37 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Exponential Calculations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carlos A Rodrigues Alves asked how to perform exponentiation in HP Calc. example: 8 Enter 4 ¬ (shift blue key, Quicken on my 200LX) 4096 .. Is this what you're looking for? That's the RPN approach. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:51:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers Comments: To: David Ness Ha! I think you take first prize... unless someone here worked on ENIAC.... Does Charles Babbage subscribe to this list? >-----Original Message----- >From: David Ness Ýmailto:DNess@HOME.COM¨ >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 4:50 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ FLUFF: 1st Computers > > >My first computer was an ERA1103 (later Univac 1103) at the >University of Minnesota in 1955. Programmed with the then ubiquitous >punched paper tape in absolute octal. Easy to program too, particularly >after training (but never actually working on) Harvard's MarkI. I was >the only person in Minneapolis who regularly checked Vol I of the >`Annals of the Harvard Computer Center' out of the library. In those >days the records were kept in the books themselves, so you could always >see who had checked out books, and I was apparently the _only_ reader >of that particular volume. > >IIRC memory was 1024 36 bit `words' and each bit was actually visible >on the panel of 36 cathode ray tubes that stored the bit in a (visible) >32 by 32 array that you could actually read if you had the patience. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:02:36 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1295125831__" --__next_part__1295125831__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jerome, Healey, > A METAL BODY SHELL to replace the existing moulded plastic body of the > HP100/200LX. This would have exactly the same dimensions as the the > current plastic body, differing only where needed to facilitate metal I love it. Actually using some metal might make more room inside for other upgrades! :) (BTW, it is probably better to make multiple posts each on a single subject, with appropriate title, then jumble several topics into one post.) Keep dreaming - so far you have good stuff coming! :-) I like the non-slip black finish, as well as the international red paint on a metallic body :) Gets attention... Avi The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A Software response, please write to: support@dasoft.com and check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com --__next_part__1295125831__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > begin:vcard > n:Healy;Jerome V. > tel;fax:(44)0181 579 7130 > tel;home:(44)0181 579 7130 > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:;;;;;; > version:2.1 > email;internet:j.v.healy@talk21.com > fn:Jerome V. Healy > end:vcard > --__next_part__1295125831__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > --__next_part__1295125831__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:02:32 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff: Ramblings and Ruminations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit on Wed, 5 Jan 2000 14:49:26 -0600, David Ball wrote, > >The height of the 320 is 40 more pixels - 240 vs. 200 on > >the 200LX. > > > >Interesting that you were attracted by the wider view - > >they must do some usage engineering to give that > >impression. > > It does surprise me, indeed. Even looking at the units side by side, the > 320LX screen appears wider. I wonder why that is? Good usage engineering, > indeed. There is also the size of the pixels. One thing the HP 200LX screen has, is an exquisitely fine pixel size (0.18mm if my memory does not fail me). The 320 screen is probably slightly larger pixel size, more common screen. > >Enjoy the machine! > > I am, but it's more of a curiousity than a real tool. My wife discovered > the Solitaire game, so I'm pretty sure what the unit is going to be > designated for...a game machine. Oh Joy!!! Belated Christmas present... > >If your usage pattern is similar to other palmtoppers, then > >you'll run out of space in about 10-15% of the time you > >initially estimated :-) ... > > Yes, but isn't that period of time just sheer heaven? Yes, except that I always think of heaven as a permanent, all-time thing :) ... When I bought my 100LX in August 1993, I felt that 352K was an incredible amount of space! Sure... Two week later or maybe just a week, I acquired 2 2MB flash cards. That was heaven, briefly... In October, all the messing around with moving data, killing wasteful files etc. was just too much, and I ordered a Sundisk (then) 20MB. Now that was space! ... briefly... I found myself scrambling weekly for space doing what I called "space safari" - hunting for space, killing wasteful files, unneeded files etc. In May 94 I got a 40MB (used and felt like in heaven. ...briefly... Then a long time of messing between the 20 and 40MBs, then the 8MB, 32MB, 64MB machine. Then a 160MB drive and I am now going for a 440MB. It never ends! If the 1.2G becomes reality, I'll probably go for it. Avi The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A Software response, please write to: support@dasoft.com and check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:15:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------01818E165264745B76B83D37" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------01818E165264745B76B83D37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I sent him an e-mail last time we discussed this and got no response from him. (Assuming, of course, that it is a "him.") I suggest we ALL send him an email. Maybe a few hundred of them will get his attention. I wonder if it's Dave Sargeant?... ;-) --------------01818E165264745B76B83D37 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="rsmith.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rsmith.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Orion adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:rsmith@enol.com note;quoted-printable:aka, on eBay: seronac@auction.skytel.com=0D=0A*=0D=0A"Statistically, at least half of the people in the world are of below-average intelligence." * =0D=0A"If variety is the spice of life, then humor is the dessert." * fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------01818E165264745B76B83D37-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 17:24:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Re: French HP-100LX for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------6FB96B17346FD15FFA66E240" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6FB96B17346FD15FFA66E240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suggest we save this one for Nathalie Bugeaud, given her recent concerns about the honesty of postal workers. --------------6FB96B17346FD15FFA66E240 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="rsmith.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rsmith.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Orion adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:rsmith@enol.com note;quoted-printable:aka, on eBay: seronac@auction.skytel.com=0D=0A*=0D=0A"Statistically, at least half of the people in the world are of below-average intelligence." * =0D=0A"If variety is the spice of life, then humor is the dessert." * fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------6FB96B17346FD15FFA66E240-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:38:19 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Delete /? In-Reply-To: <8825685D.0073C9C5.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Longden Loo wrote: > I don't think the /s option was available on DOS 5.0's DEL command. Not in DOS 7 either, this "advanced" feature hasn't reached DOS yet... > My preferred way to do this would be Xtree (showall files on the drive > with name *.bak, tag them and delete them). Hmm. don't actually think Norton/Volkov Commander (my preferred file manager) can do this trick... Ý...¨ > I'm sure the other alternatives are endless, but I don't think there's a native > 200LX solution. Simtel is a good place to look, it should contain dozens of delete programs. I use a nice UNIX rm clone that can do recursive deletions (though you have to be careful with that...) Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:50:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rick Kozak Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Kozak Subject: Re: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've had a number of things machined from aluminum block. They were always: 1. one off tools, jigs, etc. 2. much simpler designs than what is being proposed. Since you'd probably be looking at least 4 pieces for each case (i'm trying to visualize the hinge, hmmm) and each piece would require some mounting arrangement for the screen and motherboard (a manual operation - to tap the holes for jewelers screws) my guess would be that you're probably looking at the hundreds of dollars range for the CNC machine plus operator time. Plus, there'd be a one time charge for programming the CNC machine, of course. And then, you'd probably only get a couple a day. I suppose you could cast the aluminum frame, but then you're looking at significant tooling dollars up front (in the tens of thousands range). rick > Have you been at all involved (or know people who have) in such precision metal > casing manufacturing? > > If it was made available, I'd go for it and pay some good money. > > Philippe > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:33:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >I sent him an e-mail last time we discussed this and got no response I've concluded prolink1@gate.net is either: 1) An industry cartel that buys them up and recycles them into WinCE machines (ala sci-fi's "Soylent Green"). 2) An alien race trying to eliminate mankind's only hope against invasion 3) People from the future trying furtively to remove all vestiges of a device inadvertantly left behind and which is destined to alter history if it remains in our hands. 4) Bill Gates, who can be any of the above. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:17:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Maybe someone should offer a broken 200LX on ebay as bait . > > - Longden (who's waiting for a good conspiracy theory) You are free to step on your screen! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:17:49 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Delete /? Comments: To: "Guenther Helmuth E." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I like to delete all *.bak files in all subdirectories. > > del *.bak /s doesn't work. > > Any other idea? Sorry, I was paying attention in other locales! (G) PCMagazine use to have a harddisk sweep HDSWEEP program that could traverse down thru the entire disk and carry out a command as it did so. This might work. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:17:55 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things Comments: To: Jerome V Healy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > All comments / ideas welcome. I like it, if it were affordable. I did suffer the hinge hairline crack on my last hp200 and hope to avoid it on this 32 megger. A metal shell might also help limit or eliminate the lid flex which may be the cause of (not determined by me) the loss of a vertical row of pixels. This is caused by contacts along the screen edge, I believe, to separate from the screen element in some fashion. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:01:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D Dv Subject: HP 82240B IRDA Printer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. Does anyone know if it is possible to print to the above printer using something other than Tom Rundel's program? I was hoping for something with a little more control on the output. I got one from Ebay and find it very useful, but I wish there was an application for it, not just a file dumper (not trying to bad mouth Tom's program, but for a registration fee. I do wish it would work at least like a simple text editor, or that it would have a more direct connection to other programs than it currently does). I heard long ago of an HP48 emulator for the HPLX. Anyone knows if it prints to this printer, and if so, does it offer more control? Does the printer recognize any type of printing code a 'regular' program might throw at it? TIA Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:15:28 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Claude Holle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Claude Holle Subject: Pocket Quicken Connect Won't Transfer > 1/1/00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C7_01BF57B1.39FBE2A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01BF57B1.39FBE2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tried to use Pocket Quicken connect to upload Pocket Quicken data to PC. = No transactions in year 2000 could not be uploaded. Balance sync worked = fine.=20 Would appreciate any advice anyone may have. Using Quicken for Windowns = V5 w Connect V 2.2. Thanks in advance. ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01BF57B1.39FBE2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Would appreciate any advice anyone may = have. Using=20 Quicken for Windowns V5 w Connect V 2.2.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01BF57B1.39FBE2A0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 18:17:37 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , revwkschultz@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: William Schultz Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again) Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, so far I can tell you that these two email addresses lead to the same place. http://members.icanect.net/~prolink/ and prolink isn't a who it is a what The plot thickens > This was discussed a few months ago, when prolink had a different > email address > (was prolink@icanect.net , now it's prolink1@gate.net). > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:42:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Organization: Mind/Matter Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My receeding hairline and my daughter's graduation from college both inform me that I am getting old, but to be compared to Babbage... Well, at least it is proof that one---as a prescient high-school teacher once said to me---might have a `decent career in computers in the forthcoming years'... Ed Padin wrote: > > Ha! I think you take first prize... unless someone here worked on ENIAC.... > Does Charles Babbage subscribe to this list? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:57:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tom H Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom H Subject: Re: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The line of pixels blanking out is caused by the screen PC board being twisted. When the screen opens, the PC Board flexing causes the solder joints on the display driver chips to crack. Surface mount chips use very little solder that is fairly "plastic" at room temp. If you're brave, you can reflow the solder joints, just use a good liquid flux! HTH, Tom "F. Kaufman" wrote: > > > > > All comments / ideas welcome. > > I like it, if it were affordable. I did suffer the hinge hairline crack > on my last hp200 and hope to avoid it on this 32 megger. > > A metal shell might also help limit or eliminate the lid flex which may > be the cause of (not determined by me) the loss of a vertical row of > pixels. This is caused by contacts along the screen edge, I believe, to > separate from the screen element in some fashion. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:04:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Delete /? Comments: To: "Guenther Helmuth E." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I like to delete all *.bak files in all subdirectories. > del *.bak /s doesn't work. Here's 2 possible methods; Rexx or Edlin... If you had Personal Rexx you could use the TREVERSE program to issue a DEL command in each directory. Traverse works very well, I use it to backup up my desktop by running a program that ZIPs up each directory into a unique Zip file. If you have the old dos editor EDLIN you could do it by first creating a list of all the files like this: DIR \*.BAK /S/B > BAKLIST.BAT (The DIR command needs to be refined so Only files, not directories, are listed.) Edlin accepts redirected commands like this: EDLIN BAKLIST.BAT < CMDS The file CMDS would have the necessary commands to convert the lines in the file from format "d:\path\fn.ext" to "DEL \path\fn.ext". Use the edlin "r" command to replace the "d:" at the start of every line to the "DEL " command. After edlin exits you would just need to execute the modified file BAKLIST.BAT. Completion of these ideas is left as an exercise for the reader. :-) cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:17:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peter W Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peter W Subject: Re: Pocket Quicken Connect y2k / Free Quicken upgrade In-Reply-To: <20000106025837.6800.qmail@mx05.netaddress.usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:15:28 -0700 > From: Claude Holle > Subject: Pocket Quicken Connect Won't Transfer > 1/1/00 > Tried to use Pocket Quicken connect to upload Pocket Quicken data to PC. > No transactions in year 2000 could not be uploaded. Balance sync worked > fine. > > Would appreciate any advice anyone may have. Using Quicken for Windowns > V5 w Connect V 2.2. I'm using PQC 2.2 with Quicken Deluxe 98 R3 on Windows 3.1 and have had no trouble with any Pocket Quicken Connect functions. Note that you can go to http://www.intuit.com/ and follow the Year 2000 links to the Quicken 5 info and the "options" link to learn about downloading Quicken Deluxe 98 for free (!) That would definitely be my recommendation. Back up the old data files and give it a try! The Quicken 98 free upgrade is available to licensed users of: Quicken for DOS v 1-8 Quicken for Windows v 1-6 Quicken for MacOS v 1-7 -Peter ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:18:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: FA: HP Item MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII With all the eBay talk I once again state that I wish we had a true LX eBay client . With that said, I thought one of you might be interested in the HP item I just listed on eBay, here's the URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=231755550 Oh yeah... happy new year everyone. I have been pretty busy the past couple of weeks and forgot to tell everyone that I hope all have an extremely safe and happy 2000. Jeff ----------------- Jeff Johns W4JEF ---------------- --- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department --- --- Birmingham, Alabama USA --- --- Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key --- --------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:49:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ian Gifford Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Gifford Subject: Re: BLUETOOTH MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Ericsson cooperates with Intel,Nokia,IBM,Toshiba and others. Actually the Bluetooth Special Interest Group Promoter Group was composed of Ericsson, IBM, Intel, Nokia, and Toshiba and on 1Dec99 3Com, Lucent, Microsoft, and Motorola were added. As of today there were almost 1400 Bluetooth SIG Adopters (IPR Pool). http://www.bluetooth.com > The reach is suppose to be about 10 meters.And already later this year The 0dBm Pout Bluetooth Module will be ~10m however, the 20dBm Module is expected to go 100m in free space. > will Ericsson start selling Bluetooth as directly integrateable(can I = say > so?) with mobilephones and desktops,for the latter as a pc-card. Bluetooth is designed as an embedded Radio ala the SIR Port on our HPLX's (now IrDA cabable thanks Andreas). PC Card Type II designs will occur but not as primary and/or low cost implementations. Bluetooth is designed to be ~$5.00 USD in quantities of 100M. The desktop designs will likely be USB to Bluetooth Dongles not PC Cards. > And how about us LX-users? > > Well,here is a little nice picture of a PCMCIA-card on which is written:= BL > UETOOTH... > I have emailed Ericsson about this PCMCIA-card,asking about how much > current it takes etc,but just got the answer to return in a couple of > month. Ericsson is prototyping the Bluetooth PBA 313 01/2 Module and it their package is a Small Outline BGA (10.2 x 14.0 x 1.6mm). This Module has an etched Antenna TxRx (0dBm 2.4GHz GFSK, FH-CDMA 1600 hops/s.) and the Baseband is a typical Serial Interface IEEE Std 1149.7. The PBA 313 01/2 is based around a BiCMOS Radio ASIC and a simple digital interface for control. The Ericsson ROK 101 007/1 is a complete Bluetooth Module (w/ PBA). There are many embedded implementations dropping the Baseband, etc. and just using the Radio ASIC; this would be the way to go - IMO - for the 100 or 200LX. Ericsson's Module indicates - Operating from a 2.8V supply voltage, the device has a typical supply current requirement of only 40mA (Rx mode) or 33mA (Tx mode). I think a PC Card is not viable but that an enterprising HW Engineer might be able to add this to the LX board. Possibly removing the SIR and putting in the Radio ASIC and using the Hornet CPU. LOTS OF WORK FOR A SMALL MARKET. http://bluetooth.ericsson.se > But imagine guys,sitting in the sofa with your LX, synchronizing with > your desktop and modem without having to leave it when downloading > emails,taking backups,transfering files etc > > AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH..... Actually, the neat thing about Bluetooth is the Piconet (presummes others colocated <10m) and then the Scatternet Inter Piconet network where aggregate speeds can pass >1Mbps. Simple ftp and telnet is nice but the Bluetooth "magic" is the SDP Layer aka Motorola Piano and the other middleware and upper layer API Layer work being done for the 3G and 4G Portable Phones. The self organizing network and the unobtrusive ad hoc networking will make Wearable Computing a reality. The adoption projections are staggering 670M Bluetooth enabled device by 2005! Handsets and Laptops are easily the bulk of these numbers and are very probable based on my knowledge. Ericsson technology and Intel marketing and branding are the juice! FWIW Bluetooth enables wireless voice and data communication between mobile appliances (such as between a mobile phone and a laptop computer), and between mobile and fixed appliances (such as between and electronic camera and a printer). > Lars Hedstroem/Sweden > > PS:For they who wonder about the odd name"Bluetooth",there was a = famoust > Viking named:Harald Bluetooth.I think it is from him,he was btw a = norwegia His name was Harald Blaatand "Bluetooth" II King of Denmark 940-981, Son of Gorm the Old (King of Denmark) and Thyra Danebod (daughter of King Etherred of England). I wonder if any of the list Geneolgists have this Family tree in their Palmtop? ;) BTW I did not know he was Norwegian. That is why I like this list - Learning something new every day. -- Ian Gifford gifford@ibm.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:30:06 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Claude Holle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Claude Holle Subject: Re: Pocket Quicken Connect y2k / Free Quicken upgrade Comments: To: Peter W MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Worked great, Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter W" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Pocket Quicken Connect y2k / Free Quicken upgrade > > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 19:15:28 -0700 > > From: Claude Holle > > Subject: Pocket Quicken Connect Won't Transfer > 1/1/00 > > > Tried to use Pocket Quicken connect to upload Pocket Quicken data to PC. > > No transactions in year 2000 could not be uploaded. Balance sync worked > > fine. > > > > Would appreciate any advice anyone may have. Using Quicken for Windowns > > V5 w Connect V 2.2. > > I'm using PQC 2.2 with Quicken Deluxe 98 R3 on Windows 3.1 and have had no > trouble with any Pocket Quicken Connect functions. Note that you can go to > http://www.intuit.com/ and follow the Year 2000 links to the Quicken 5 > info and the "options" link to learn about downloading Quicken Deluxe 98 > for free (!) That would definitely be my recommendation. Back up the old > data files and give it a try! > > The Quicken 98 free upgrade is available to licensed users of: > Quicken for DOS v 1-8 > Quicken for Windows v 1-6 > Quicken for MacOS v 1-7 > > -Peter > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:42:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Connectivity Pack on WinCE/PocketDos or other DOS emulation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone tried it? Would provide a good access to LX data from WinCE Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:50:08 -0800 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: BOB1 Subject: Re: i am disadvantaged Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > > Nathalie, > > The upgrade service is also available from Rundel Datentechnik in Europe > (http://www.rundel-d.com/palmtop/). > > I've also made an offer to Bob for his LX, but haven't heard from him and so I > assume the LX has already been spoken for. > > - Longden > > Nathalie Bugeaud on 01/03/2000 08:40:33 AM > > Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond > to Nathalie Bugeaud > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle) > Subject: i am disadvantaged > > >Yes I hope she gets it back or a new one soon. I sent my hplx to > >Thaddeus for a upgrade 22.11.99. I got it back on 28.12.99 > > first, thank you all for your offers of your backup units to sell me ;if > possible i'd like a ready double spped, or i'd have to send it to Thaddeus > > being in Europe means i cannot get the money in time to US sellers to be > competitive enough - the units are gone by the time my cheque reaches US > > so, i have another suggestion (request): anyone willing to buy the 2x-speed > unit fs by Bob camba1@pacbell.net for the $200 and i will send this good > guy a check for $250 to ship it to me. > > i know about the other option (send Thaddeus $659 to buy a new one) but as a > student, not only is it not in my budget, but too easy ;)) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml longden! I am sorry I did not get back to you I have been in San Diego Ca. I have return and I sent Nathalie an e-mail that I would hold selling my unit untill I Receive a money order from her. I recall seening an e-mail from someone here in the States about sending that person the unit and they will forward to Nathalie but I am not moving untill Nathalie gives me the e-mail authorizing me to do so. So Longden if you are the person please contact Nathalie and let her know,if not please disreguard this e-mail. Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:41:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: How to bid on eBay with WWW/LX and HV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've found a way to place bids on eBay using HV and WWW/LX. It's not a great solution, but it does work. Like others, I had trouble with ebay and HV. Bidding wouldn't work at all and doing a search would often result in error messages, especially the dreaded "URL too long" message (translated, this means your palmtop is now locked up and requires a hard reset). I started looking at the html and couldn't see the problem. It's fairly simple code. Then I recalled that HV can't handle multiple forms. eBay's search page has multiple forms and therefore is a problem. I rewrote eBay's multiple forms into separate HV freindly pages, and now all the searches work flawlessly. What about bidding? Well, the page where you enter userid and password also has more than one form. The userid/password form, and a search form further up. But this page is a generated page, not a static page, so it can't be rewritten. Or can it? Just edit it "on the fly". When the bid confirmation page comes up, press F3 to edit the source. I have paledit set as my editor. Paledit is started and loads the current page from a temp file. I start selection, then 'find' the first occurence of 
. (I have a macro for this part.) The
highlighted text now contains the offending first form. Delete it. You now
have technically invalid html, but HV can read it. Press F10 to save the
temp file, then Menu, Q to exit.

Press a key to return to HV, and you now have a page HV can handle. Enter
your userid and password and good luck on your bids :-)

HV seems to get confused by this process, and sometimes will display the
wrong page from the cache. Press ¬R to refresh the screen. Like I said,
it's not a great solution, but I've used this procedure to place a number
of bids. It'll work for me until eBay comes up with an alternate
interface, or someone writes an eBay client.

Mike Kopplin

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:38:12 -0800
Reply-To:     camba1@pacbell.net
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From:         BOB1 
Subject:      Re: FA: HP Item
Comments: To: Jeff 
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Jeff wrote:
>
> With all the eBay talk I once again state that I wish we had a true LX
> eBay client . With that said, I thought one of you might be interested
> in the HP item I just listed on eBay, here's the URL:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=231755550
>
> Oh yeah... happy new year everyone. I have been pretty busy the past
> couple of weeks and forgot to tell everyone that I hope all have an
> extremely safe and happy 2000.
>
> Jeff
>
>            ----------------- Jeff Johns W4JEF ----------------
>            ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
>            ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
>            ---  Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key  ---
>            ---------------------------------------------------
>
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Hey! Jeff and a happy 2000 to you too.
Do you have any more shirts with HP on them?

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              Jeff 
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From:         Jeff 
Subject:      Re: FA: HP Item
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, BOB1 wrote:

> Hey! Jeff and a happy 2000 to you too.
> Do you have any more shirts with HP on them?

Unfortunately, no... it is a pretty cool shirt though and it's in great
condition .

Jeff

           ----------------- Jeff Johns W4JEF ----------------
           ---    Jefferson County Sheriff's Department    ---
           ---           Birmingham, Alabama USA           ---
           ---  Finger jeffj@scott.net for my PGP RSA Key  ---
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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:03:41 -0800
Reply-To:     Tim Shephard 
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From:         Tim Shephard 
Subject:      Re: Pocket Quicken Connect y2k / Free Quicken upgrade
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-----Original Message-----
From: Peter W 

>
>I'm using PQC 2.2 with Quicken Deluxe 98 R3 on Windows 3.1

Peter,

I am running it on Win98 and there is an R4 out now.  You may want to update
using the built-in update function.  It corrects some Y2K online banking
problems.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com
http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard/tim/ha
eFax (508) 590-0302

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 06:05:33 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" 
Subject:      Re: HP 82240B IRDA  Printer
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> printer, and if so, does it offer more control?   Does the printer
> recognize any type of
> printing code a 'regular' program might throw at it?

I recall sending control codes that did change font type/size.  It was
ages ago.  I don't recall if they were THIS PRINTER SPECIFIC codes or
from some other HP printer manual....

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:10:05 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Daniel Hertrich 
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From:         Daniel Hertrich 
Subject:      Re: Exponential Calculations
Comments: To: "Batson, Dale N" 
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Hi

> > How to calculate X¬Y on the HP200LX Calc?
> >
>         Go to the calculator and choose "Math" under "Applications", then
>         enter the value for "y", then "*", then "x", then press "LN", then
>         press "=", and finally press "LN". This procedure is based on the
>         fact that e¬(y ln x) = x¬y.

why make it so complicated?
i'm able to enter X¬Y directly into the calc.
E.g. if I enter 3¬4 and press enter I get the correct value: 81.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 01:10:10 -0500
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              Daniel Hertrich 
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From:         Daniel Hertrich 
Subject:      Re: HPLX-L Digest - 3 Jan 2000 to 4 Jan 2000 - Special
              issue(#2000-6)
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Hi

> One thing that occurs to me is that they might be trying to send to LPT1: or
> PRN, being lx unaware programs that don't know to use the serial port.  If
> that's the case a MODE command can redirect the printer output to the serial
> port.  The built in print command might have been modified to use the serial
> port.

AFAIK, LPT1 and PRN are already redirected to COM1 by the hardware.
I didn't use any
mode command, but whenever I try to print to LTP1 _or_ PRN it works
fine. Only with printing to COM1 I had a few problems.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:41:33 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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From:         Longden Loo 
Subject:      Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again)
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Acutally I was hoping someone with some excess parts (like Thaddeus) would bait
the trap.... unless prolink is Thaddeus.

I'm not paranoid if they're really after me, right ?

- Longden





fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net on 01/05/2000 05:17:46 PM

To:   HPLX Mailing List , Longden
      Loo/AGH/Candle@Candle
cc:
Subject:  Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again)




> Maybe someone should offer a broken 200LX on ebay as bait .
>
> - Longden  (who's waiting for a good conspiracy theory)

You are free to step on your screen! (G)

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 21:58:34 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List , dmp24@JUNO.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         David M Peterson 
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers
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I started servicing computers in 1980. A friend had an Ohio Scientific.
The diskette drive held somewhere 60k and 80k. My first machine was a
Vic-20. Peek and poke. What a way to program.

The next machine was a Durango F-85. This beast was a desktop computer
with 8085 at 3mhz with built in 180cps dot matrix printer. I used it
mainly for word processing. This was an accounting machine for small
business. I have a programmer friend who still supports these. 64k memory
expandable to 196K and 5 users! My next machine (well 5 in peices
actually) was a ND812. This was the computer brand and model made so
famous as the computers controlling Three Mile Island during its
accident. The same computers were used to collect transactions from the
early electronic cash registers with "price look up" or PLU. These
machines used a 12 bit word and were made os SSI chips with about 1/4
inch mat of wire-wrap wire under the cpu board. They had core memory. One
of the machines had intel 1k memory boards. Sorry,I did not save any.
These guys were from the early 70's.

David Peterson

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:37:20 -0500 David Ness  writes:
> Surely a slip of the pen... No early computer had even 1 `Meg' of
> RAM.
> Remember the first 5 1/4'' floppies carried only about 300K,
> eventually
..

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:41:53 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Dan Holiga 
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From:         Dan Holiga 
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Friends:
I can't seem to make a connection between my PC and
200LX.  I've replaced the cable, and tested the serial port
on the PC.....It used to work (with the Connectivity Pack),
but now won't connect with that or with TRANSFILE WIN 200.
The Remote Settings on the HP are OK.
Has anyone had this problem?
Could it be a configuration problem?
Is there any way I can test the serial port on the palmtop?
If repair is necessary, where could I send it?
Any help/advice will be greatly appreciated!
Dan Holiga
Silicon Valley College

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Date:         Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:44:12 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List , seeghee@YAHOO.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         See Ghee Tan 
Subject:      IMAP4 email access on 200LX
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Doe anyone know whether is that a DOS based mail
client capable of acccessing IMAP4 mail boxes.

Regards
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 08:52:25 MEST
Reply-To:     stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch
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From:         Stephan Goeldi 
Subject:      Re: Delete /?
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There is a tool on Simtel to execute any command in all subdirectories.
This is the URL to download it:
http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/dirutl/subdir.zip

-goe-

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 08:18:35 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              "Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge"
              
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         "Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge"
              
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers
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Ed,

What about those of us stuck with using cassette instead of floppies (the
old 300bps CUTS format or was it KUTS - it was a long time ago), like the
original commodore PET or ohio superbrain (single board machine), or the
altair (never got my hands on one of those personally) - painfull it
was....

Condor

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Ed Keefe wrote:

> David Ness  Remembered the first 5 1/4''
> floppies carried only about 300K,
>
> I recall that my first privately owned computer used single
> sided 5.25" disks. I think the limit was a whopping 180K
> bytes. Ah those were the days. I also recall one student who
> pulled his disk out of his bib overall pocket, unfolded it
> once and then once again and jammed it in the drive. It
> almost worked until the drive head was destroyed. Or how
> about the many students who thought they had to format a
> disk each time they put it in the drive and then wondered
> where all their work went.
> .ed.
>
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              Alchemist 
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Ed,

Ah those were the days... I cut my 'programming' teeth on the PET... my
first game
was written for it, and I ended up having it load the game from cassette
then remapping
the 4k cassette buffers to give me more data space for the arrays I was
managing.  A
4k PET with 2 4k cassette buffers had its limits but it was fun to push past
them a bit. :)

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
Date: Thursday, January 06, 2000 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: FLUFF: 1st Computers


>Ed,
>
>What about those of us stuck with using cassette instead of floppies (the
>old 300bps CUTS format or was it KUTS - it was a long time ago), like the
>original commodore PET or ohio superbrain (single board machine), or the
>altair (never got my hands on one of those personally) - painfull it
>was....
>
>Condor
>

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:43:07 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." 
Subject:      Re: Delete /?
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Longden,

> My preferred way to do this would be Xtree (showall files on the drive =
with name
> *.bak, tag them and delete them).

This is exactly what I did until today.

> There's also a PC Magazine freeware utility called SWEEP which performs =
a
> designated command across all subdirectories.

I think I will try this.

Thank you and all the others for helping me.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 04:11:26 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List , nxw988e@TNINET.SE
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Lars Hedstroem 
Subject:      The Aunt Strategy Succeded on Ebay
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Mike Kopplin wrote:


> I've found a way to place bids on eBay using HV and WWW/LX. It's not a
> great solution, but it does work.


I read a very interesting book about how aunts solve problems  several =
years ago,it was written by a  insectresearcher who had studied the =
subject.

The essence of it  was that the aunts don't care if it is "impossible" =
according to the human thinking,the try and try and try in every possible =
and impossible ways.Ofcourse they don't succed every time but more often =
than you can expect.

I call this:"the aunt-strategy",and Mike Kopplin has just showed its =
applicability.



Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:03:08 -0800
Reply-To:     cs@teamlog.fr
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From:         Scordilis Cathy 
Subject:      Re: Delete /? - Solution
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Hello all

The solution is for all *.tmp and *.bak

Copy under c:\> two files zapbak.exe and zaptemp.exe

launch c;\>zapbak.exe
=> delete all *.bak in all directory and sub-directory

same solution for *.tmp
launch c;\>zaptmp.exe
=> delete all *.tmp in all directory and sub-directory

IT WORKS FINE ( I make this programme for the PC under windows 5.0 + and
i use it in my palmtop )

If somebody wants this 2 files DON"T HESITATE send me a mail

Best regards

Cathy in France

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 02:19:11 -0800
Reply-To:     Paul Khoury 
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From:         Paul Khoury 
Subject:      Re: Using the infrared port in DOS
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On Mon, 3 Jan 2000 05:00:55 +0000, fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote:

>> Is there any way to use the infrared port in DOS, or only
>> in Application Manager?
>
>
>I believe, Tom Rundel of accis fame wrote a dos program to drive the HP
>little IR printer from the 95/100/200.  I think there is also a remote
>controller that was dos and not exm.
>
>
Where would one obtain these programs?

I used to own an HP Omnigo 100 long ago, and was more in touch with the
different sites for software for my unit - I wish I was with my 200LX (been
working on getting UNIX ports for my different computers here).

Paul

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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:47:42 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Ed Keefe 
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Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge  mentioned
using cassette tapes with Commodore Pet and Altair 8800.

Been there, done that. I didn't buy a machine that used tapes. The agency I
worked for had several of them however. There was also the "streaming tape"
of the HP 85 luggable.

.ed.

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Hello all

My configuration is :
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- palmtop 200 lx = 2 Mb ram
- Pc on windows NT 4 = service pack 4

I use the transfer tool : Tfwin200 (version 1.0.3)
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=> I can copy all data (*.ndb + * gdb + *.pdb + *.adb + ... ) on to my
pc

After I use HP's Connectivity Pack (version 1.02)
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=> I launch the software on my pc

Problem :
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=> the pc closes the Windows interface
=> and It runs under DOS interface (this is the same screen as my 200lx)
that i can see on my pc

Question :
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is it possible to run under Windows NT interface ?

Thanks for your help

Best regards

Cathy in France

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On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge wrote:

> altair (never got my hands on one of those personally) - painfull it
> was....

Neither did I, Peter, and it WAS painful!  But I read about them (still
have a copy of Popular Electronics which featured it on the front cover!)
and so my 1st computer (aside from the old TI-30 calculator, or
programming the HP-2000C in BASIC (we had a terminal on leased line at the
high-school)) was a bread-boarded wire-wrapped 8080 chipset with 4k of
ram, a full keyboard (from a kit) and a 2-digit LED display located ON the
keyboard. It used an 8255 programmable I/O controller to read/write the
keyboard & display.  I still remember the price of the 8080 chip (bought
off the rack at Radio Shack) for a price of $17.  That seemed (and I still
think WAS) INCREDIBLY cheap.  The concept of being able to execute five
hundret THOUSAND instructions per second seemed then (and still does,
frankly) seem almost beyond belief.

There was financial difficulty (and I had to ask Dad for money to complete
the project) when it came time to purchase the wopping big 4K of RAM (4
memory chips 1Kx8) and ROM (2708) for the thing, and at the time my father
couldn't imagine 'what in the heck anyone would do with such a thing'
while at the same time handing over enough cash to get it running.
He now COULD'T LIVE WITHOUT his PC by the way :)  but still thinks my LX
is a bit far-out!  I had the critical good-fortune of being able to use
the ROM burner at the lab in the company where my father worked, during
off-hours and it took 3 visits to get all the hex-codes (hand assembled by
looking up each one on the 8080 data sheet) correctly programmed into the
2708.  I was a bit disappointed when the new 2716 ROM came out and didn't
require a 12 volt supply (in additon to the 5v) anymore.  But in the end I
had a machine that one could type in a program from the keyboard (limited
hex editor or bootstrap loader, or debug/monitor if you will), and jump to
run that program (it ran as a subroutine, so it would return to the
monitor upon completion). But building a CRT character display, and a mass
storage device I never got to. Life got complex fast as the computer
'revolution' brought faster, cheaper, and more powerful machines to life
with far less effort.

Not too long after that we all graduated to C64's and my father started to
see 'what the heack you could do with such a thing'!

So...is the LX 'obsolete'?  (Ok, sorry, put the flamethrowers away please
;)  I don't think so.  I think it's like math. Just try doing the
five hundred thousand operations the 8080 did by hand in ONE SECOND
and see how long it will take you!  Then realize a single speed LX with
1Meg of RAM is *capable* of a lot (but are we?)  It executes most
instructions at twice the speed of the 8080 (probably average a million
per sec) (apologies for boring those of you who program in assembler
but this still blows my mind when you think what you can do with that!)
(The indefiniteness of instructions per second in the 80186 derives from
the variable instruction execution times that had started to creep into
the instruction set by then.)

That reminds me...I'd like to put in a good word about the 8080 data sheet
from that era. At the time Intel used a wonderful notation (something that
has been subsequently dropped in all processor documentation since and
including the 8085) to indicate the action of each instruction.  If you
understood the register archatecture of the processor, symbols like (A <->C)
had a very simple and powerful meaning. I've heard it (or somethign
like it) called 'register transfer language', although I'm not sure this
is quite proper use of the term. The above ( <-> ) example would
indicate a 'exchange' of the contents of registers A and C and is just one
example of about 20 shorthand symbols that were used (and indicated in a
sort of 'ledgend' on the backside of the data sheet) to show all the
instruction operations (logical AND, OR, NOT, Multiplication,
complementation, Rotate Right, Rotate Left, Rotate with Carry, etc.)
Even the infamous JUMP instructions had a really fine representation in
this little 'language'. It was this:  (PC) <- (byte3)(Byte2) which
indicated that the the 2nd and 3rd byte (the new address) of the 3-byte
'instruction' (the first byte being the JUMP op-code) were to be placed
into the (PC) (program counter) 'register'.  This would effect execution
of the code starting at the new address contained in (byte3)(byte2) of the
JUMP instruction.  So in a very compact notation (with only about 20
symbols) you could represent the precise action of the 120 or so processor
instructions in a very inituitive and simple way.  I'll leave the notation
for CALL or Jump to SubRoutine to the imagination or those who still have
8080 data sheets to remenisce about! (Oh, well, hint: There was also SP,
the Stack Pointer register and the currrent (return address) got stored
on the stack)!

Well these days you need a microscope to do any circuit work, I guess so I
pretty much stay out of there, and I'm kind of afraid to take the cover
off my LX due to a slight case of 'surface-mount-phobia'! But there for a
while after digital ICs came out (and before they got to small for the
average guy to work with) was a fascinating time.

But programming is neat, and I do appreciate the shrunk size of a lot of
things (esp. the LX which I've had my eye on for years but only recently
aquired).

Rob

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> I've concluded prolink1@gate.net is either:
>
> 1) An industry cartel that buys them up and recycles them into WinCE machines
> (ala sci-fi's "Soylent Green").
> 2) An alien race trying to eliminate mankind's only hope against invasion
> 3) People from the future trying furtively to remove all vestiges of a device
> inadvertantly left behind and which is destined to alter history if it remains
> in our hands.
> 4) Bill Gates, who can be any of the above.
>
>
> - Longden

:) :)

And I'm sitting here in Germany, writing to almost everyone who offers
a palmtop without any sucess. I'm always either too slow or too far away
although I've prepared a couple of Dollar Bills ready to be sent to
anyone in the world.

Help me! p-l-e-a-s-e ! Because the palmtop is the very main computing
device of mine.  It is the

        FIRST REAL GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTER I EVER OWNED.

:)

Rudi

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Message text written by robert c lewis
>I had to ask Dad for money to complete the project<

Your Dad is a wise man. I try to encourage my kids to dive into things th=
at
interest them, even if I don't see the point of the activity. That's my
job! And look where your Dad's help got you...and him.

Tom Salwasser

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Ed,

> worked for had several of them however. There was also the "streaming tape"
> of the HP 85 luggable.
>

HP-85, nice machine, got rid of my 85B only 2 or 3 months back - had an
HPIB interface for it and hooked it up to my test equipment here at home
for control and data logging.

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Salvete,

LATVERB.EXE 45955 bytes (pklited)

Does it interest you? This program is one of those that I
never (will) delete from my flash card although I'm still
looking for something to delete every.

I got it from the author long time ago together with BASIC
source codes. I cannot cut and paste now on a UNIX-workstation,
so I'm typing the first screen from my palmtop after invokation:

(first screen)
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LATVERB creavit et programmavit Eugene Holman, MCMLXXXVII
editio praecursoria, (C) Eugene Holman, MCMLXXXVII
Hoc programma tibi formas verbi latini dabit
Deprime aliquam pinnulam ad continuandum.
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(my loosy translation:
created and programmed by Eugene Holman
1987 Beta version (?? please confirm this!) (C) Eugene Holman 1987.
This program gives you latin verb
forms, press any key to continue.)

(second screen)
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Da infinitivum.
(Scribe vocales langas pinnula correspondente)
?
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(give infinitive. Write the long vowels with the
corresponding keys.)

If I now type the infinitive "esse", I get the next screen:
-----------------------------------------------------------
Deprime ESC ad novum verbum conjugandum. Deprime 9
si optiones alias vis.

esse sum fui ---

Quod tempus vis?

        praesens                1
        perfectum               2
        imperfectum             3
        plusquamperfectum       4
        futurum exactum         5
        futurum                 6
-----------------------------------------------------------
... and so on

I'll still have to contact the author if you're interested
in using it.

Also, I have been looking for a possibility to convert the
codes to C, so that I can use it on UNIX stations too and
that I could change it to a command-line fashion for a
quick retrieval of conjugations and maybe for a better
readability under various zoom-modes.

And from there, I'll try to figure out a scheme for automatic
declinations. Would anyone like to help.  Any relevant
information or codes will be appreciated!

I remember compiled the codes with either Turbo Basic or
Quick Basic.

Rudi












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If anyone on the list lives around Denver, Colorado please contact me off
list.
Thanks.

  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
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> I do PC110 overclocking;  these overclock to 40MHz, and can be run at
> 1/3 or 2/3 speed (Saves battery power.)  One guy charges $40 for that, I
> would charge less.  Haven't overclocked any of my machines yet, but then
> I use several machines at once, speed's not that bad of an issue (except
> on the 200LX, need to double speed mine )
>

PC110 was one of those interesting anomalies that made me wonder whether IBM
Japan was really a part of IBM. It was (is) an interesting machine for
hackers.


> information, sort of nice.  Choose your OS, it can run on the PC110,
> OS/2, Linux, Win95, Dos, whatever.

Not to mention Btron, BSD and ????
>

>
> Myself, I use both machines, the PC110 for "higher power" applications,
> the 200LX for typing-style uses.  Buy CF cards mostly, then can use them
> with an adapter in the 200LX, and without the adapter in the PC110 (as
> e: though that's all configurable.)  I just touch type on the PC110, the
> "japanese" keyboard layout can be ignored until & unless you install a
> keyboard driver, it thinks it's a full-sized laptop with a small
> keyboard.  (I get weird looks when touch-typing with my thumbs, though
> )
>
> Getting harder to find PC110's, I like mine though.  I'll have to try
> out a Libretto some day 
>
I've never owned a Libretto, mainly because I type faster on a 200lx. I
found the PC110 to be hopeless (YMMV) for typing on as well. However, the
Libretto is certainly the lightest machine that can run internet apps
properly.

Cheers,

Bob

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> I'm not paranoid if they're really after me, right ?
>
> - Longden

I believe you. As you explained to me - it is the people
who are after you are paranoids, not you! :-) ...

  Avi

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on Sun, 2 Jan 2000 20:56:16 +0100, Stephan Goeldi 
wrote,

> >What do you mean by this - isn't the "bible" (Old Testament?) calendar
> going
> >to be the same as the Jewish calendar?
>
> Doesn't seem so. There is not only one kind of jewish people.
> Think of: the orthodox church has christmas at another date. Why?
> For the jewish people, there is not only the Old Testament (Thorah) but the
> Talmud too.
> For the muslims there is not only the Qur'an, but the Hadith and the Sharia.
> For the catholics there is the Catechism as an addon.
> If you take only the pure bible, you get 6025 years.
> If you are interested, I can send you the calculations, that lead to 6025
> years.

My old deceased Rabbi is turning in his grave right now :-)
...

Well, I think you have things mixed up a bit. The Old
Testament contains actually three parts, one of them is the
Torah.

The Talmud is simply a legal document attempting to
interpret the codex of law encoded in the Torah and based
on more modern concepts of life. There are other large
bodies of written material such as Mishna and Gemarah, as
well as the mystic Kabala.

As far as I know, all Jewish people who follow the Jewish
calendar use a single calendar. There is no such thing as
"several kinds of Jewish people" to my knowledge. There
are many divisions and distinctions, based on specific
religious philosophies for example (Orthodox,
Conservative, and Reform Judaism) - but these are all the
same people. You make Jews sound awfully mysterious. We are
not.

I am not sure why there is a difference in the count
between the Jewish calendar and the biblical reckoning. I
always assumed that the Jewish calendar simply took
verbatim the time designations as described in the old
testament, then added the time in the "common era" (i.e.
what is now the modern calendar.

I still wonder what is the source of the information
posted.

  Avi

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> PCMagazine use to have a harddisk sweep HDSWEEP program that could
> traverse down thru the entire disk and carry out a command as it did so.
> This might work.

I use global.com for repetitive jobs, although I have never
let it delete anything recursively where I was not seeing
first what was being deleted! :-) ...

I believe global is on SUPER.

e.g. directory listing of all directories:

start at the root. Enter

global dir

and off it goes... On a 160MB PCMCIA it takes a long time
ere it rests again... :-)

  Avi

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On 31 Dec 1999 08:34:07 -0600, Evan Griffing 
wrote:

> When I put it in, there was no notification
> that the card was put in.  the command
> cic100 /gen 1 was in the autoexec.bat file.
> I reentered it just in case and then put
> the card in, and still nothing.

First of all the palmtop does not tell you that a card is
plugged in and recognized. This is a Windows XX behaviour
assuming the user is totally incapable of anything :-( So
it is normal to get no special acknowledgement.

Secondly. if datacomm addresses the wrong port or there is
not a modem in the port it is addressing then you will not
be able to type anything.

Press Menu - Connect - Setting - setup the speed (19,200 is
ok even if you have a 14,400 modem) - tab to the next field
and punch the COM2 radio button. Press F10 to OK and you
should be in business now...

Let me know if not working still - your modem may be to
power hungry or simply non-functional.

  Avi

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On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> I read a very interesting book about how aunts solve problems several
> years ago,it was written by a insectresearcher who had studied the
> subject.

Erm, Lars. I think you mean "ants"? :-)

Both words are pronounced the same, but only an ant is an insect, not an
aunt (which is your father's or mother's sister)

Unless of course it's an ant's aunt, if there is such a thing... ;-)


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Hi Jerome and others,

> A METAL BODY SHELL to replace the existing moulded plastic body of the
> HP100/200LX.  This would have exactly the same dimensions as the the
> current plastic body, differing only where needed to facilitate metal
> Ý...¨

Great idea! This would maybe even solve our
'Internet-via-IrDA-and-mobile-phone' problem! :-)
(And if it wouldn't solve it, it would at least prevent a part of the
electromagnetc field of the phone of entering the HPLX).

But do you have an idea who would be able to make such a new case, even
if there's some manufacturing design available?

GTX
daniel

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Laust wrote:


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              A Meshar 
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 04:11:26 -0500, Lars Hedstroem 
wrote,

> > I've found a way to place bids on eBay using HV and WWW/LX. It's not a
> > great solution, but it does work.
>
> I read a very interesting book about how aunts solve problems  several
> years ago,it was written by a  insectresearcher who had studied the
> subject.

I read and read until I got red in the face :) , then I got
it! You meant ants - aunts are sisters of your parents.

Interestingly enough, family members also work in similar
ways when they wish to get something done. They cannot
exactly force you, and they usually do not want to lose
you, so they use a similar strategy - they just keep up the
pressure until you decide on your own to bend.

  Avi

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Avi,

> I use global.com for repetitive jobs, although I have never
> let it delete anything recursively where I was not seeing
> first what was being deleted! :-) ...
>
> I believe global is on SUPER.
Thank you, I will have a look.

Regards

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Actually, I thought the theory was interesting _until_ I realized
it was really about `ants'...

A Meshar wrote:
>
> On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 04:11:26 -0500, Lars Hedstroem 
> wrote,
>
> > > I've found a way to place bids on eBay using HV and WWW/LX. It's not a
> > > great solution, but it does work.
> >
> > I read a very interesting book about how aunts solve problems  several
> > years ago,it was written by a  insectresearcher who had studied the
> > subject.
>
> I read and read until I got red in the face :) , then I got
> it! You meant ants - aunts are sisters of your parents.
>
> Interestingly enough, family members also work in similar
> ways when they wish to get something done. They cannot
> exactly force you, and they usually do not want to lose
> you, so they use a similar strategy - they just keep up the
> pressure until you decide on your own to bend.
>
>   Avi
>

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   >After I use HP's Connectivity Pack (version 1.02)
   >-------------------------------------------------
   >=> I launch the software on my pc
   >Problem :
   >----------
   >=> the pc closes the Windows interface
   >=> and It runs under DOS interface (this is the same screen as my
   >200lx) that i can see on my pc
   >Question :
   >----------
   >is it possible to run under Windows NT interface ?
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:53:55 +0000

I don't think so.  But if you find otherwise, I'd appreciate the info also.
CPack appears to take over the entire display once it starts.

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"Batson, Dale N"  wrote:
> Subject:      Re: Exponential Calculations

> > How to calculate X¬Y on the HP200LX Calc?
> >
> > thanks,
> > Carlos
> >
>         Go to the calculator and choose "Math" under
> "Applications", then
>         enter the value for "y", then "*", then "x", then press
> "LN", then
>         press "=", and finally press "LN". This procedure is
> based on the
>         fact that e¬(y ln x) = x¬y.
>
If I enter "2¬8" in HP Calc, the result is "256". So where is the
problem and why would I need the logarithm?

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The saga continues.... Unfortunately success seems just as elusive as
ever.

A quick review:  I am trying to get my 200lx to work for digital ham
radio communications.  I have an MFJ-1248 I'm running for HF
commucinations.  I have used MFJCom, MultiCom (MFJ) and Baycom.  All
caused my LX to hang completely when I sent a command to the tnc.

I then started using XPCom and thought it would work.  It did receive CW
accurately, and I could send commands to the tnc successfully (changing
modes).  I have not been able to decode anything else, however.  So,
last night I decided to try transmitting.  Nothing!  The tnc did not
respond.

I did some more experimenting.  I loaded good ol' DataComm (the built in
app) again and tried transmitting with it.  It worked fine (as far as I
could tell -- no one responded).

So, the score seems to be:
    Baycom    0
    MFJCom    0
    Multicom    0
    XpCom        1 (receive only)
    DataCom    2    (receive and transmit)

Why aren't the other programs working?  I know others have used these
programs on LX's.

It would be nice to use one of these programs -- they are much easier
than having to issue tnc commands everytime i want to make a change
(it's a lot like having to type modem string commands instead of having
the program do it for you).  Besides, I need to receive fax, and I don't
think DataCom will do that.

Any ideas?

Dale

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:34:05 -0600
Reply-To:     Chris Lott 
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> If I enter "2¬8" in HP Calc, the result is "256". So where is the
> problem and why would I need the logarithm?

Usually use the logarithms to solve the opposite problem - you have
a number, say 8192, and want to know what power of 2 it is:

  2¬x = 8192

You can solve this by this equation:

    x = ln(8192)/ln(2)

Actually, you can use either natural or common logarithm function
in this case...

    x = log10(8192)/log10(2)

-Chris

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              Ed Falk 
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From:         Ed Falk 
Subject:      Re: Delete /?

> PCMagazine use to have a harddisk sweep HDSWEEP program that could
> traverse down thru the entire disk and carry out a command as it did so.
> This might work.

The unix 'find' command could do that (and a whole lot more).  Maybe
someone has ported it to DOS.

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Do you use Buddy and lock the port?  Is the port shared with a mouse or modem?

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On Thu, 06 Jan 2000 11:41:17 -0500, David Ness 
wrote:

> Actually, I thought the theory was interesting _until_ I realized
> it was really about `ants'...

Sorry to have destroyed that moment of joy!  :-)

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:47:06 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill 
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On 5 Jan 2000 16:23:40 -0800, A Meshar  wrote:

> It never ends! If the 1.2G becomes reality, I'll probably
> go for it.

Excuse me asking but what do you store on all that space? I have now a
8mb ds + 24mb cf which I use Jam on.

I could use some more space, but for now I am in the "post upgrade
state of mind" where I have enough space for all I can imagine :-))

I do not know how long this will last..

--
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-Palmtop friendly sig...

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On 5 Jan 2000 15:45:41 -0800, Ed Keefe  wrote:

> David Ness  Remembered the first 5 1/4''
> floppies carried only about 300K,
>
> I recall that my first privately owned computer used single
> sided 5.25" disks. I think the limit was a whopping 180K

I used a Nord 10 and a Nord 100 mainframe machine made by Tandberg Data
when I was a little boy. It used floppies the size of the cover of a
Lp. I can not remember how much data they had. I think these machines
are stored not long from my dads office..

My dad used them to register people in sport events to print
start/result lists and stuff like that. I remember I signed up for a
50km nordic ski race by mistake.. Because the program was so bad my dad
could not delete me from the startlist. He joked around that because I
signed up I had to go..This was my first traumatic experience with
computers.. I think this was back in the late 70's.

I got over the fear of computers and then went from that to Commodore
64, 486sx, 486dx2/66. Pentium 100 and then my current pc a Celeron
300a@450Mhz. Then I bought a hp700lx winter 98. Then a Hp 200lx and I
have also a 386 and a TI Travelmate 2000 286 in my hardware graveyard..
If this trend goes on I will have a Nord 10/100 mainframe soon :-))

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:11:01 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac) wrote:

> I sent him an e-mail last time we discussed this and got no response
> from him. (Assuming, of course, that it is a "him.")  I suggest we ALL
> send him an email.  Maybe a few hundred of them will get his
> attention. I wonder if it's Dave Sargeant?...  ;-)

Heh heh... I've had so many medical problems in the past few months that
even with insurance, I have so little money I won't be buying palmtops for
a looooooong time, unless the backlight project makes me fabulously
wealthy.  So everybody commit to ordering several backlights from
Thaddeus, for my sake.  

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              John J Vanderstel 
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              project

Hi Robert,

>The IBM 110 (Ultraman)  which is about one form factor larger than a
200lx
>has a 33 MHz 486 processor (this is a ball park figure). I assume that
you
>could find one relatively cheaply these days in Tokyo. However, given
your
>speed requirements, a older model Toshiba Libretto with a 50+ MHz may be
a
>better choice. Also makes a good support device for you HP200lx.

Thanks for that suggestion, Robert.

I've looked for an old 50mhz Libretto for quite a while, but they seem to
be very hard to find.  That would work if I could find one and it's
offered at a reasonable price.  The IBM 110 sounds interesting, but since
it's so old and the battery is not replaceable, I don't see it as a
realistic portable option.

I was hoping that someone could either suggest other portable machine
alternatives or that someone might have some update info on the Japanese
386 project.  The DOS program I would like to run takes several minutes
to process it's data between screens on my double speed 32mb HP200LX.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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              John J Vanderstel 
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Subject:      HP200LX to Rex Organizer card synchronization project

Hi Chris and all others interested in the project,

>> I sent an e-mail to Starfish to see if they might be interested in
letting
>> someone write an TrueSync accessor for the LX. So far, so good, the
response is
>> positive.
>
>Philippe:
>
>I would be interested in helping.  I recently received some code that
>Mack wrote that reads the data in the card, but he stopped there
>because he didn't know the format of the data.  I was going to play
>with it some, and perhaps contact Starfish.  But you beat me to it...
>
>Keep me posted.

I too am very interested in being able to synchronize a Rex organizer
card directly with my HP200LX.  I don't have the Rex Pro, but I do have
the original Rex. They can be found on local store shelves for as low as
$50 now, and that's a terrific deal.

I'm currently sychronizing my Rex Organizer card with my laptop, using
the TrueSync Desktop software, but I would love to be able to edit my
appointments and synchronize directly with my HP200LX through it's own
PCMCIA card slot.

I'm not a programmer, but I would love to help with the testing and
experimentation end of it's development. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:37:33 -0500
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              Jeff Malka 
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I seem to have lost my diskette for Screen Extender for WP 5.1.  On my HD I
found a directory SSXE which still had the "manual" but the install files
seem to have long dissappeared and the diskette is nowhere to be found.

Does anyone have a copy of Screen extender for WP5.1+ and could send me the
files?

Thanks.

Jeff Malka 

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:38:46 -0800
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              Fryday 
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Great! Thanks for the help! I'll let everyone know the details of our progress
as soon as the Win98/NT connectivity kit comes out. In the meantime, if anyone
would like to take a look at the current Linux beta connectivity kit and see how
that could be used to connect either with TrueSync or directly from the LX to
the Rex, please let me know.

Mack, I heard you figured out how to look at the data inside the REX. Could you
give us more details?

Thanks!

Philippe

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From:    
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 3:07 AM
Subject: Rex on 200lx


> Dear Philippe,
>
> I read with great interest your email on the above. If
> you need more beta test site, I will be glad to help
> you test out the program. I almost "forced" into wince
> game because truesync was available there.
>
> Cheers & Regards
>
> __________________________________________________
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> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
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>

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:39:51 -0800
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              Fryday 
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Are you saying you're trying to buy one?

Philippe

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 3:29 AM
Subject: Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again)


> > I've concluded prolink1@gate.net is either:
> >
> > 1) An industry cartel that buys them up and recycles them into WinCE
machines
> > (ala sci-fi's "Soylent Green").
> > 2) An alien race trying to eliminate mankind's only hope against invasion
> > 3) People from the future trying furtively to remove all vestiges of a
device
> > inadvertantly left behind and which is destined to alter history if it
remains
> > in our hands.
> > 4) Bill Gates, who can be any of the above.
> >
> >
> > - Longden
>
> :) :)
>
> And I'm sitting here in Germany, writing to almost everyone who offers
> a palmtop without any sucess. I'm always either too slow or too far away
> although I've prepared a couple of Dollar Bills ready to be sent to
> anyone in the world.
>
> Help me! p-l-e-a-s-e ! Because the palmtop is the very main computing
> device of mine.  It is the
>
>         FIRST REAL GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTER I EVER OWNED.
>
> :)
>
> Rudi
>
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Jeff Malka wrote:

> I seem to have lost my diskette for Screen Extender for WP 5.1.  On my
> HD I found a directory SSXE which still had the "manual" but the
> install files seem to have long dissappeared and the diskette is
> nowhere to be found.

What is the Screen Extender?  Is it useful on the palmtop?

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I don't remember if I saw this asked - but will backlight be available
for the 100LXs?

Terry Owen

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              Fryday 
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Thanks a lot John! I'll let you know!

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:31 AM
Subject: HP200LX to Rex Organizer card synchronization project


> Hi Chris and all others interested in the project,
>
> >> I sent an e-mail to Starfish to see if they might be interested in
> letting
> >> someone write an TrueSync accessor for the LX. So far, so good, the
> response is
> >> positive.
> >
> >Philippe:
> >
> >I would be interested in helping.  I recently received some code that
> >Mack wrote that reads the data in the card, but he stopped there
> >because he didn't know the format of the data.  I was going to play
> >with it some, and perhaps contact Starfish.  But you beat me to it...
> >
> >Keep me posted.
>
> I too am very interested in being able to synchronize a Rex organizer
> card directly with my HP200LX.  I don't have the Rex Pro, but I do have
> the original Rex. They can be found on local store shelves for as low as
> $50 now, and that's a terrific deal.
>
> I'm currently sychronizing my Rex Organizer card with my laptop, using
> the TrueSync Desktop software, but I would love to be able to edit my
> appointments and synchronize directly with my HP200LX through it's own
> PCMCIA card slot.
>
> I'm not a programmer, but I would love to help with the testing and
> experimentation end of it's development. :-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
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> Mack, I heard you figured out how to look at the data inside the REX. Could you
> give us more details?

It is basically and SRAM card with a special layout for the data. There is
no file format on it, just pure data with some header info up front and a
linked list on 1k boundaries.

Cheers,
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              Jeff Malka 
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It is an add-on program that came with WP5.1+.  When using some fonts in WP
5.1, the lines become too long to fit on an 80 column screen.  The screen
extender allows one to change the display and also show italics, etc.

Actually I am looking for it for my wife who is a great lover of WP5.1.
When I moved her software to a new PC and could no longer use the previous
methods I used to allow the entire line to show up on screen.  I therefore
looked for my old screen extender diskette and could not find it anywhere!
Would probably also work on the LX.

Jeff Malka 
----- Original Message -----
From: David Sargeant 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: Screen Extender for WP51


> On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Jeff Malka wrote:
>
> > I seem to have lost my diskette for Screen Extender for WP 5.1.  On my
> > HD I found a directory SSXE which still had the "manual" but the
> > install files seem to have long dissappeared and the diskette is
> > nowhere to be found.
>
> What is the Screen Extender?  Is it useful on the palmtop?
>
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              Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 
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From:         Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 
Subject:      HPIL stuff

I'm cleaning up here, and have run across some stuff that someone here
might be interested in.  I have some HPIL technical documents, and, I
think, some HPIL connectors, transformers, and IC's, as well as an
IBM-PC HPIL interface and and an HP PC to HPIB interface or two.

If anyone is interested in this old stuff, or know of anyone who might
be interested, please let me know.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:52:38 -0800
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Check it out: www.palmreader.com/cedos.htm

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              Fryday 
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For those of you in California and Oregon, check this story:

www.mercurynews.com/svtech/

check the story on MSN at the bottom!


I'm off to Best Buy!

Philippe

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David,

> What is the Screen Extender?  Is it useful on the palmtop?

It allows you to display (graphics mode):

   80 characters/line up to 132 character/line
   25 or more lines
   italic
   bold
   Capitalized
   underline
   etc.

I use it a lot, especially when I like to get an impression how the
document is going to look like. MS Word in graphics mode is similar.

Regards

Helmuth

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Jerome,

> A METAL BODY SHELL to replace the existing moulded plastic body of the
> HP100/200LX.

If the price will be reasonable, I am very interested in 8 (eight)
bodies.

Regards

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Fryday  cited the following URL

Check it out: www.palmreader.com/cedos.htm

 and the message returned was  HTTP/1.0 404 Object Not Found

Did the DOS emulator come and go that quickly?

.ed.

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I am an experienced CAD engineer and CNC programmer, who has been involved in
precision metal component manufacturing in the past (though not for handheld
computers!).  However I no longer work in that field, having moved on to
academic work.

If I can get the required technical information I will do the design work myself
and then find a manufacturer to make a prototype.  If this is successful, I will
then obtain quotations for manufacture in various size batches.  I do not
imagine that this will be a cheap product, I envisage a custom made premium
product for the discerning buyer.

Heres whats involved:-

If original drawings and specifications are available ( and I imagine they are
not) preferably in AutoCAD *.DWG or *.DXF format, then these can serve as the
basis for a redesign.  If this information is not obtainable, then there are two
options:-

a.)  Obtain a HP200LX for disassembly and measurement, and prepare CAD drawings
from scratch.  (time consuming and more difficult than it sounds).

b.) Have the parts of the disassembled 200LX scanned by a 3D laser scanning
machine.  These machines compile CAD data files automatically from the scan
(saves time and effort but the service is not cheap).

Only when a CAD model of the existing body is available can it be determined
whether re-design and manufacture in metal is a feasible proposition.  Assuming
that it is, the exercise then becomes a question of cost, and quality of
finished product obtainable.

Naturally, I do not want to re-invent the wheel and am thus interested in
hearing from anyone who has tried anything like this already.

Rick Kozak wrote:

> I've had a number of things machined from aluminum block. They were always:
>
> 1. one off tools, jigs, etc.
> 2. much simpler designs than what is being proposed.
>
> Since you'd probably be looking at least 4 pieces for each case (i'm trying
> to visualize the hinge, hmmm) and each piece would require some mounting
> arrangement for the screen and motherboard (a manual operation - to tap the
> holes for jewelers screws) my guess would be that you're probably looking at
> the hundreds of dollars range for the CNC machine plus operator time. Plus,
> there'd be a one time charge for programming the CNC machine, of course. And
> then, you'd probably only get a couple a day.
>
> I suppose you could cast the aluminum frame, but then you're looking at
> significant tooling dollars up front (in the tens of thousands range).
>
> rick
>
> > Have you been at all involved (or know people who have) in such precision
> metal
> > casing manufacturing?
> >
> > If it was made available, I'd go for it and pay some good money.
> >
> > Philippe
> >
> >
>
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> Does anyone have any statistics on hinge/lid cracking, I want to know
> what proportion of 100/200LX's suffer the proble.

Jerome V. Healy


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I have been looking for a Roulette game for my 200LX, one that shows the
table and wheel on screen, but have been unable to find one anywhere.  Has
anyone come across anything like this.

Jerome V. Healy

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Greetings readers,

On New Years eve I plugged my 200LX into the AC adapter for re-charging.
Next morning I checked the date on the machine and found that it had not
rolled over correctly to 1st Jan 2000, but instead showed 05/09/99.
However, after re-setting the date to 01/01/00 everything seemed to be OK (I
did not check all my DOS applications though!).

In what may or may not be a related problem, I found that after removing my
compact flash card from the slot and putting it in the card drive on my
desktop PC, although the PC card Icon in control panel tells me the device
and driver are installed OK, the drive does not show up at the DOS prompt or
in any of my file management applications.   I have tried re-installing the
hardware and software but this does not solve the problem (the card remains
readable on the 200LX). Has anyone experienced this problem or know of a
fix?

Jerome V. Healy




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              Jerome V Healy 
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I recently bought a Lexor 80 MB '4 speed', 'digital film' compact flash
card (I bought this because I could not find a stockist of SanDisk.).
It seems to drain the batteries in my 200 LX very quickly, and also it's
read speed is very slow.  I checked Lexor's web site for performance
figures for the card, but only those for write speed are given
( they claim it's fast write speed saves power).  I have been using a
stacked
15MB SanDisk cf card successfully for a few years with no discernible
degradation in battery performance.
I use 1350 MaH NiMH batteries made by NEXcell these are the best
rechargeable I have tried, they
are less affected by the NiMH self discharge problem than others I have
tried.

Do larger compact flash cards draw more power?.  I thought they only used
power
for read/write operations but were otherwise passive.

Has anyone got comparative power consumption & read-write speed figures for
different
makes of compact flash cards.  How many actual manufacturers are there
(I have heard that there are only 2, with most cards being re-badged)?.

Martin Bergvill wrote:

> I have a Hp200lx 8mb ds and a 24mb cf card w/adapter.
>
> I have moved all the files I use daily to the c drive. But I want to
> know if I can put the cf card to sleep somehow while it is still in the
> slot?
>
> I have noticed a big batterylife increase now that I remove the cfcard
> from the slot. But can I run something to power down the slot or do I
> have to remove the card? (Btw the little pocket in my jeans is perfect
> for a cf card :-))
>
> --
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> -Palmtop friendly sig...
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Ian Gifford said ...
>
> > Ericsson cooperates with Intel,Nokia,IBM,Toshiba and others.
>
> Actually the Bluetooth Special Interest Group Promoter Group was
> composed of Ericsson, IBM, Intel, Nokia, and Toshiba and on 1Dec99
> 3Com, Lucent, Microsoft, and Motorola were added.  As of today there
> were almost 1400 Bluetooth SIG Adopters (IPR Pool).
>
> http://www.bluetooth.com

Speaking of Radio based communications for mobile units, does anyone have
any experience with RadioLAN's Wireless PC CardLINK?  5.8GHz, ISM band.
The model 130 is a 16 bit Type II PC Card.  The specs give it a distance
of 35m indoors with speeds approaching 10Mbit.  Mind you this kind of
hardware looks like it won't be cheap.

http://www.radiolan.com

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Do you know of Latin translation software to use on my 200LX.  I keep The Aeneiad
and the complete poems of Catullus on my compact flash card and would like to
experiment?

Nan-shan Chen wrote:

> Salvete,
>
> LATVERB.EXE 45955 bytes (pklited)
>
> Does it interest you? This program is one of those that I
> never (will) delete from my flash card although I'm still
> looking for something to delete every.
>
> I got it from the author long time ago together with BASIC
> source codes. I cannot cut and paste now on a UNIX-workstation,
> so I'm typing the first screen from my palmtop after invokation:
>
> (first screen)
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> LATVERB creavit et programmavit Eugene Holman, MCMLXXXVII
> editio praecursoria, (C) Eugene Holman, MCMLXXXVII
> Hoc programma tibi formas verbi latini dabit
> Deprime aliquam pinnulam ad continuandum.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> (my loosy translation:
> created and programmed by Eugene Holman
> 1987 Beta version (?? please confirm this!) (C) Eugene Holman 1987.
> This program gives you latin verb
> forms, press any key to continue.)
>
> (second screen)
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Da infinitivum.
> (Scribe vocales langas pinnula correspondente)
> ?
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> (give infinitive. Write the long vowels with the
> corresponding keys.)
>
> If I now type the infinitive "esse", I get the next screen:
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Deprime ESC ad novum verbum conjugandum. Deprime 9
> si optiones alias vis.
>
> esse sum fui ---
>
> Quod tempus vis?
>
>         praesens                1
>         perfectum               2
>         imperfectum             3
>         plusquamperfectum       4
>         futurum exactum         5
>         futurum                 6
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> ... and so on
>
> I'll still have to contact the author if you're interested
> in using it.
>
> Also, I have been looking for a possibility to convert the
> codes to C, so that I can use it on UNIX stations too and
> that I could change it to a command-line fashion for a
> quick retrieval of conjugations and maybe for a better
> readability under various zoom-modes.
>
> And from there, I'll try to figure out a scheme for automatic
> declinations. Would anyone like to help.  Any relevant
> information or codes will be appreciated!
>
> I remember compiled the codes with either Turbo Basic or
> Quick Basic.
>
> Rudi
>
> --
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I'd be interested in that too. Let me know if you find one!

Steve

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        I have been looking for a Roulette game for my 200LX, one that
shows the
        table and wheel on screen, but have been unable to find one
anywhere.  Has
        anyone come across anything like this.

        Jerome V. Healy << File: Card for Jerome V Healy >>

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I'd be interested in that too. Let me know if =
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Steve



    

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    I have been looking for a Roulette =
game for my 200LX, one that shows the

    table and wheel on screen, but have =
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Mine just cracked.  It seems to open slightly more when closing the lid
whereas the opening seems to bring the edges closer.  I have not repaired it
yet.  The crack is so small I do not know how I can get any glue into it
rather than around it.

Jeff Malka 
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 6:09 PM
Subject: HINGE CRACKING


> > Does anyone have any statistics on hinge/lid cracking, I want to know
> > what proportion of 100/200LX's suffer the proble.
>
> Jerome V. Healy
>
>

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On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:24:50 -0600, Mack Baggette wrote:

>It is basically and SRAM card with a special layout for the data. There =
is
>no file format on it, just pure data with some header info up front and =
a
>linked list on 1k boundaries.

There's some useful info on the file structure at
http://www.hlembke.de/rex/oindex.htm

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> Speaking of Radio based communications for mobile units, does anyone have
> any experience with RadioLAN's Wireless PC CardLINK?  5.8GHz, ISM band.
> The model 130 is a 16 bit Type II PC Card.  The specs give it a distance
> of 35m indoors with speeds approaching 10Mbit.  Mind you this kind of
> hardware looks like it won't be cheap.

I have this setup at my house and it works great.  The speeds achieved are
great and seem to be close to a 10Mbit LAN speed.  The card is low enough
power to be used in the palmtop, but they don't offer any help for creating
a driver. I have never gotten a response to my Emails to them about
creating a driver for the palmtop.

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> David Ness  Remembered the first 5 1/4''
> floppies carried only about 300K,
>
> I recall that my first privately owned computer used single
> sided 5.25" disks. I think the limit was a whopping 180K

I had one of the first revision 0 AppleIIs.  I started using an audio
cassette tape for storage but upgraded to one of the first diskette
drives.  What a bargain; only $600 for about 90k of disk space!

cheers... Russ

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I have a question about POST/LX, but it also impacts on e-mail
in general.

When I posted a message with POST/LX v2.2d, using a mailing
list in a BCC header, all the recipients of the post were
listed in the header after a BCC: tag. Is this correct? Do
other e-mail clients behave this way? I thought the whole
purpose of BCC was that the recipients couldn't see the other
recipients.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 15:50:56 -0800
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              Fryday 
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Sorry, the address is:

http://www.penreader.com/cedos.htm

Philippe

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Subject: Re: WinCE fluff: XT Dos emulator for WinCE - CEDos


> Fryday  cited the following URL
>
> Check it out: www.palmreader.com/cedos.htm
>
>  and the message returned was  HTTP/1.0 404 Object Not Found
>
> Did the DOS emulator come and go that quickly?
>
> .ed.
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Here's the link of the Mercury News:

http://www.mercurynews.com/svtech/news/indepth/docs/best010600.htm

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Please stop this thread or I will have to start to tell you of the masochistic joy of editing punched paper tape by line and character position in FORTRAN II on an HP2100, or how incredibly easy it is to delete lines from punched card decks.

William D.Ll.Brown
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              Larry N Zimmerman 
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I don't have the "+" version of WP5.1 but certainly would benefit from
this add-on.

Is it still available somewhere individually?

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:54:15 -0800
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It wouldn't be too hard to make a mold for a fiberglass shell.  But,
would that offer any improvement?  Does anyone know what the existing
material is?

While we're at it, let's fully ruggedize it... waterproof keyboard....
shock mounting.... hmmm.. I wonder if this will hold up at 100 feet when
I scuba dive?  Or, should I take it skydyving?  or....  Actually, I
wouldn't mind a little water protection since i use mine on a boat as my
only computer.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:00:35 -0800
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What about making an aluminum sand-casting yourself.  It's done all the
time for machinery parts where accuracy is essential as well.

Dale

>I suppose you could cast the aluminum frame, but then you're looking at

>significant tooling dollars up front (in the tens of thousands range).
>
>rick

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:49:24 -0800
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              Fryday 
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Whoa! This is starting to sound interesting! Can anyone out there help him out?
Hal, don't you guys have opened up LX's? I like the 3D laser solution. Anyone
willing to start pooling money to make this thing a reality? I don't mind doing
the logistics but we need a bunch of people (including myself) who would be
willing to help foot the bill for the 3D laser solution. Then, the total money
spent will be split between all the buyers (if this thing comes true) and those
who helped at first will get some of their money back or will get a credit. On
the other hand, if it turns out to be too expensive and we have to cancel the
whole thing out, then the money is lost -- a risk some of us must be willing to
take.

I don't know how much the 3D laser solution is, but I'm up for, say, 5-10% of
the bill.

Any other takers?

Philippe

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things


> I am an experienced CAD engineer and CNC programmer, who has been involved in
> precision metal component manufacturing in the past (though not for handheld
> computers!).  However I no longer work in that field, having moved on to
> academic work.
>
> If I can get the required technical information I will do the design work
myself
> and then find a manufacturer to make a prototype.  If this is successful, I
will
> then obtain quotations for manufacture in various size batches.  I do not
> imagine that this will be a cheap product, I envisage a custom made premium
> product for the discerning buyer.
>
> Heres whats involved:-
>
> If original drawings and specifications are available ( and I imagine they are
> not) preferably in AutoCAD *.DWG or *.DXF format, then these can serve as the
> basis for a redesign.  If this information is not obtainable, then there are
two
> options:-
>
> a.)  Obtain a HP200LX for disassembly and measurement, and prepare CAD
drawings
> from scratch.  (time consuming and more difficult than it sounds).
>
> b.) Have the parts of the disassembled 200LX scanned by a 3D laser scanning
> machine.  These machines compile CAD data files automatically from the scan
> (saves time and effort but the service is not cheap).
>
> Only when a CAD model of the existing body is available can it be determined
> whether re-design and manufacture in metal is a feasible proposition.
Assuming
> that it is, the exercise then becomes a question of cost, and quality of
> finished product obtainable.
>
> Naturally, I do not want to re-invent the wheel and am thus interested in
> hearing from anyone who has tried anything like this already.
>
> Rick Kozak wrote:
>
> > I've had a number of things machined from aluminum block. They were always:
> >
> > 1. one off tools, jigs, etc.
> > 2. much simpler designs than what is being proposed.
> >
> > Since you'd probably be looking at least 4 pieces for each case (i'm trying
> > to visualize the hinge, hmmm) and each piece would require some mounting
> > arrangement for the screen and motherboard (a manual operation - to tap the
> > holes for jewelers screws) my guess would be that you're probably looking at
> > the hundreds of dollars range for the CNC machine plus operator time. Plus,
> > there'd be a one time charge for programming the CNC machine, of course. And
> > then, you'd probably only get a couple a day.
> >
> > I suppose you could cast the aluminum frame, but then you're looking at
> > significant tooling dollars up front (in the tens of thousands range).
> >
> > rick
> >
> > > Have you been at all involved (or know people who have) in such precision
> > metal
> > > casing manufacturing?
> > >
> > > If it was made available, I'd go for it and pay some good money.
> > >
> > > Philippe
> > >
> > >
> >
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I am configuring a "folder selection" process for cclxpop, and I am soliciting
inputs on how it might function. My idea right now is to have a file thaat is
evaluated sequentially to establish if a particular field has a particular
string, and if so, it will be sent to a particular folder. Something along
these lines:
{Field, parameter, folder}

From, girlfriend, Love Letters
Subj, fluff, Light Reading
Subj, WinCE, Useless junk
To, emailacct1@isp.com, Email account 1
to, emailacct2@isp.com, Email account 2

The first match would result in the email being routed to that folder. My going
in position is that the searches would not be case sensitive, and I would use
simple comma delimited strings as above.

I would appreciate any user insight as to what you would find useful /
desirable in this function, and if you think it is worthwhile at all.

Thanks!

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              Jeff Malka 
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Don't know.

Jeff Malka 
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> I don't have the "+" version of WP5.1 but certainly would benefit from
> this add-on.
>
> Is it still available somewhere individually?
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>
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Thu,  6 Jan 2000 16:17:20 -0500 (EST)

Ahhh Avi, so you have met my "Aunt" 

AJKind

06h15m59s ago ...
On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> ...
> Interestingly enough, family members also work in similar
> ways when they wish to get something done. They cannot
> exactly force you, and they usually do not want to lose
> you, so they use a similar strategy - they just keep up the
> pressure until you decide on your own to bend.
>
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There must be at least an internal HP manual. It works with
several HP calculators (48,
12C, 17BII,19BII,32SII,10B,38G) also the palm-sized,
battery-operated LogicDart Advanced Logic Probe.

A non hp product, something called the ProChrono Jr
(http://www.competitionelectronics.com/print/pcjinstp.html)
there is some stuff at
http://www.ip.co.za/people/kalle/project.htm#hpir
including links to tech info onh the printer.

At http://www.injectoclean.com/cjscan.htm it states the
82240 printer will work with the CJScan OBDII Scanner a tool
to to track OBDII's powertrain diagnostic information for
GM, Ford, Chrysler and most Asian and European vehicles.


At http://www.pact.com/dscale.html it says "The PACT Digital
Precision Powder Scale comes with an optional Infrared Data
Port. This allows the scale to transmit weight data via a
beam of invisible infrared light to the revolutionary PACT
Digital Precision Powder Dispenser. The Scale can also print
weights through the data port to a HP 82240 portable
printer.



D Dv wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to print to the above printer
> using something other than Tom Rundel's program?

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:03:19 -0600
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Well, as a test of the 320LX at a common task, I decided to take the unit
with me and see how effective it would be at a simple task that I use the
200LX for quite often--composing email on the go.  As all 200LX
afficianados know, thumb typing on the 200LX is an acquired skill.  The
320LX is a larger unit, and thumb typing is more difficult.  Composing this
email was more cumbersome, especially in the beginning.

The layout of the keybord is more similar to that of a laptop than to the
200LX.  The numbers are located on the top of the keyboard rather than to
the bottom right.  However, I found that using the keyboard became
considerably less difficult over time.  Like the 200LX, one can thumb type
on the keyboard--it just takes a certain amount of practice.

One feature that is instantly useful is the backlight.  While that will
cease to be an issue with the availability of the upgrade, for now it makes
the 320LX an attractive unit in dark and near dark conditions.  I was able
to compose emails in a dark room and in dim lighting conditions with no
problems seeing the screen.

Another feature that is nice are the large fonts.  The larger fonts on the
320LX make it quite easy to see the screen versus the smaller fonts on the
200LX.  The readability of the screen and the backlight are two very nice
features.

That said, the portability of the unit is significantly more cumbersome.
The unit really isn't small enough to be called a palmtop.  It can fit into
a back pocket...barely.  Using a carrying case is far more important than
with the 200LX.  This cuts down on the unit's effectiveness...being able to
slip the 200LX quickly out of my pocket and into my hand is one of the
primary reasons I like the unit.

Still and all, the 320LX allowed me to compose a series of emails in dim
and difficult to see conditions...something I could not do with the 200LX.
For those who need to take notes in such conditions, the 320LX could well
be one answer.




Regards,

David Ball
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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 18:45:26 -0800
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Personally, I *hated* using my 320LX for e-mail, even when it was the only
solution available for wireless BellSouth mail with the 3Com Allpoints
card, for the simple reason that Pocket Outlook is a terrible e-mail
client.  It doesn't know how to wrap lines properly, it doesn't handle the
"Re:" part of the subject properly, there's no PGP option, and it's really
slow... any of the 200LX e-mail clients could beat Pocket Outlook on the
320LX, in my opinion.

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:05:43 -0800
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              A Meshar 
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:13:18 +0100, Ulrich Boche 
wrote:

> >         Go to the calculator and choose "Math" under
> > "Applications", then
> >         enter the value for "y", then "*", then "x", then press
> > "LN", then
> >         press "=", and finally press "LN". This procedure is
> > based on the
> >         fact that e¬(y ln x) = x¬y.
> >
> If I enter "2¬8" in HP Calc, the result is "256". So where is the
> problem and why would I need the logarithm?

It must be the Windows-Effect! If it is not over
complicated, overbearing, bloated and slow then it must not
be correct and/or must not be Windows-based, therefore call
your local Microsoft Office for some bloat solutions :-)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:05:46 -0800
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              A Meshar 
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On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 19:47:06 +0100, Martin Bergvill 
wrote:

> Excuse me asking but what do you store on all that space? I have now a
> 8mb ds + 24mb cf which I use Jam on.

I run several businesses and the majority of the
information about/for them is on the palmtop. For example,
just for D&A I keep over 25,000 pieces of email,
registration info, sales records and so on.

> I could use some more space, but for now I am in the "post upgrade
> state of mind" where I have enough space for all I can imagine :-))
>
> I do not know how long this will last..
>

Not to worry, this will last very briefly :-)

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to:  support@dasoft.com
and check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:39:11 -0700
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David Ball wrote:

> experimenting with about 10 different DOS and Windows programs, FSB has
> been the best full-featured program in this area that I've seen.  Of

Where can one find the file(s)?

Bob
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   >> experimenting with about 10 different DOS and Windows programs,
   >>FSB has  been the best full-featured program in this area that
   >>I've seen.  Of
Message-Id: <20000107034804.MMOZ1891@Ý12.72.162.90¨>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 03:48:04 +0000

   >Where can one find the file(s)?

The SUPER site has a link to an offsite FTP address.  Try searching SUPER
for 'family scrapbook'.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 20:55:07 -0700
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Used to teach a class using the HP85. Had to write an editor for it so the
students could write programs. My quick reference was in my desk until a few
months ago.

"Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge" wrote:

> HP-85, nice machine, got rid of my 85B only 2 or 3 months back - had an
> HPIB interface for it and hooked it up to my test equipment here at home
> for control and data logging.

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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 08:43:20 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby 
Subject:      Re: IMAP4 email access on 200LX

See Ghee Tan writes:
> Doe anyone know whether is that a DOS based mail
> client capable of acccessing IMAP4 mail boxes.

The latest version of LXTCP (lxtcp.hplx.net) supports IMAP4
servers.

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Chris Randle writes:
> When I posted a message with POST/LX v2.2d, using a mailing
> list in a BCC header, all the recipients of the post were
> listed in the header after a BCC: tag. Is this correct? Do
> other e-mail clients behave this way? I thought the whole
> purpose of BCC was that the recipients couldn't see the other
> recipients.

The Bcc: header should be stripped from the data stream by the
message tranfer agent, but should still be taken into account
in the SMTP RCPT TO: command.  LXMTA handles this correctly.

The correct behaviour is clearly defined in section 4.5.3 of
RFC822 (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc822.html).


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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 21:08:38 -0800
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Someone was asking in the list about 486 project for
HP200LX in Japan. Check this URL out for lastest
update

http://www.morphyone.org/release/rel19991115.shtml

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Date:         Thu, 6 Jan 2000 22:05:38 -0800
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>From:    Dale Gillilan 
>Subject: metal shell
>
>What about making an aluminum sand-casting yourself.  It's done all the
>time for machinery parts where accuracy is essential as well.
>
>Dale

I think Dale has the right idea.  We're turning a mechanical problem into
a computer problem-- CAD programs?  Three-dee lasers?  Pshaw!  How about a
old feller with a lathe/mill and some time on his hands? :)

Seriously, CAD/CAM only really makes sense for high-volume production or
for things that require microfine tolerances.  A snazzy new case for an
out-of-production 8086 computer fits neither of these conditions.  So who
on the list is a practiced machinist?  I myself, while a lover of old
machines and occasional fixer-up of fine English motorbikes, sadly do not
yet have a home machine shop.

Ooo ooo.... how about a hinge with a knurled tension cap so that one could
adjust the position of the screen precisely?

Ain Vale
Portland, Oregon

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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 04:27:16 -0500
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David Ball wrote:


> One feature that is instantly useful is the backlight.  While that will =
> cease to be an issue with the availability of the upgrade, for now it =
makes



If you compare the contrasts then?


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              "Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge"
              
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All,

Enough of toys for the boys, what about the Ladies on the list and thier
1st computers and experiences ?

Condor
P.L.G. Mockridge - Schlumberger Geco-Prakla, London

On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Bob Meyer wrote:

> Used to teach a class using the HP85. Had to write an editor for it so the
> students could write programs. My quick reference was in my desk until a few
> months ago.
>
> "Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge" wrote:
>
> > HP-85, nice machine, got rid of my 85B only 2 or 3 months back - had an
> > HPIB interface for it and hooked it up to my test equipment here at home
> > for control and data logging.
>
> --
> +--------------------+-----------------+
> |Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
> |bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
> |Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
> +--------------------+-----------------+
> |   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
> +--------------------------------------+
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> If you compare the contrasts then?

Having used both extensively, I have to say the 200LX screen and backlight
is vastly superior to the 320LX, although the 320LX screen improves
considerably if you remove the touch-screen panel from the front.

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              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
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Larry,

> I don't have the "+" version of WP5.1 but certainly would benefit from
> this add-on.
>
> Is it still available somewhere individually?
>
> Larry Zimmerman

I bought mine at

   Recycled Software 

They have also a webpage.

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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:42:35 +0100
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Dale Gillilan  wrote:

 It wouldn't be too hard to make a mold for a fiberglass shell.  But,
> would that offer any improvement?  Does anyone know what the existing
> material is?

An ABS/EPDM molding compound for plastic would be quite strong with good
impact resistance (and so-so surface finish, unless matte like the LX).
>
> While we're at it, let's fully ruggedize it... waterproof keyboard....
> shock mounting.... hmmm.. I wonder if this will hold up at 100 feet when
> I scuba dive?  Or, should I take it skydyving?  or....  Actually, I
> wouldn't mind a little water protection since i use mine on a boat as my
> only computer.

I use clear Zip lock plastic bags in boating/wet environments. You can still
see the screen and tap the keys. Speaking of ruggedizing, how about a high
tech carbon fiber or kevlar look? The real problem is getting the hinge area
to work reliably and still be aesthetically acceptable.

> What about making an aluminum sand-casting yourself.  It's done all the
> time for machinery parts where accuracy is essential as well.

Good idea but in aluminum/aluminium the wall thickness will probably have to
be increased over the (my guess) existing wall thickness of the plastic to
be sufficiently dent resistant.

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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:41:44 +0100
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Re: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things

There seems to be enough enthusiasm on the list to do a metal shell and to
share costs.

I have a more radical idea. Everyone sitting down?

How about if a die hard group of us approached HP to license or buy out the
tooling, drawings, manufacturing rights to the HPLX including the software
bundles. Then some more development?

I suppose we would have to mess with Microsoft on the DOS license or we
could use DR-DOS (I think Novell bought Digital Research some years back).
Memory capacity has improved a lot so ROM/RAM could be upgraded from the
beginning. Without stepping outside of the form factor LxW, possibly we
could consider supporting Type III PC cards as well, allowing for a lot more
options. (A 520mb PC HD costs a fraction of the flash card and could be
usable when plugged in or for quick battery backups/file swaps). We are
already talking increased thickness on metal jackets but a max 4mm increase
in thickness (in the bottom part of the case) is easy. A 5mm L x 3mm W would
allow a ruggedized execution and easy fitting of a large screen but would
require extra molds to be made. That size increase would be the limit of a
palm form factor. A more rounded back could allow 2 more batteries to
support greater power consumption (if needed).

Personally I'd like to see DOS 6.22 or any version that allowed us to
overcome the 640kb ram limitation. The programmers could look at ways to
improve the bundles. A larger screen could be used, backlighting
incorporated (possibly integrated with the ongoing project). There is no
better group than the HPLX list to be critical and brainstorm how to improve
the software, update the functions and hardware.

I do Arch/Eng/Planning but our main work is in industrial projects. We've
installed a lot of manufacturing in the Far East (mainly PRC); we know
molding and plastic engineering compounds and I can link to board
manufacturers. We have offices in China, Switzerland and Italy. I'm
regularly in the USA (usually SoCal).

If others can do knowledgeable leg work I'd consider joining an investment
pool to back such a project. Honestly, I don't think it should cost too much
to acquire the tooling and rights from HP. I also can discuss the contract
issues of licensing with HP but am not in a position to do it from here
(Switzerland) without someone else chasing down the responsible/empowered HP
people to talk to.

Anyway, just some half-serious thoughts ready to get serious under the right
circumstances...if enough hardware/software guys get involved for the love
of the LX, who knows?

Maybe a Linux port??? Maybe 256mb ram???

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> On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, David Sargeant wrote:

>
> Having used both extensively, I have to say the 200LX screen and =
backlight > is vastly superior to the 320LX, although the 320LX screen =
improves > considerably if you remove the touch-screen panel from the =
front.
>

Hey,I have seen a 320LX and I ofcourse knew about its bad contrast:-),but =
I didn't know that the touch-screen was removeable?

How big is the improvement?

Is that also possible do you think on other handhelds?



Lars Hedstrom/Sweden

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              Geert van Wirdum 
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Cathy,

If you are just curious to know whether others have found more
comfortable ways, I probably can not help you. However, if you missed
the possibility to transfer files with CPack under NT, or to switch
between CPack and other applications under NT, I may.

In the office, I regularly exchange data with an NT4 machine. I found
CPack more reliable and faster than Transfile, but the user interface
of Transfile is nicer under Windows. If Transfile were as reliable and
quick, I would use it to import files for use with programs I can not
have on the LX, and the reverse. Taking LX data bases to the NT allways
implies the need to transfer back or synchronize, which I try to avoid.
I occasionally use the CPack PIM programs whith the relevant files
still on the LX. For quick access to my data, I just use the LX.

Is it possible to run under Windows NT interface? If you mean: In a
window, with other open applications visible on the screen at the same
time: Probably no. However, you may have other applications open, which
you can access without closing CPack. Use the Windows-Start key or, if
you do not have that, the Ctrl-Esc key combination to switch. Not
ideal, but quite workable for me.

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              Robert Kawaratani 
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> On 5 Jan 2000 16:23:40 -0800, A Meshar  wrote:
>
>> It never ends! If the 1.2G becomes reality, I'll probably
>> go for it.
>
> Excuse me asking but what do you store on all that space? I have now a
> 8mb ds + 24mb cf which I use Jam on.

1. dictionaries extracted from cd-roms about 250 MB
2. Various smaller dictionaries about 25 MB
3. CIA factbook about 6 MB dieted
4. Maps - 5 MB
5. Misc programs, etc. 20 MB

280 MB flash on a 32 MB DS 200lx

I have about 2 MB free on my C: drive and maybe 6 MB free on my A: drive.
I'll probably  have to start thinking about a 1.2 GB flash card eventually
....

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              Robert Hocking 
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> wealthy.  So everybody commit to ordering several backlights from
> Thaddeus, for my sake.  

Sign me up.  When can I send one of my palmtops in?

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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:35:26 -0500
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              Steve Novosad 
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> On 5 Jan 2000 15:45:41 -0800, Ed Keefe  wrote:

> > David Ness  Remembered the first 5 1/4''
> > floppies carried only about 300K,
>
> > I recall that my first privately owned computer used single
> > sided 5.25" disks. I think the limit was a whopping 180K

The Heath hard sectored disks were 40 track, single sided to
begin with.  They held 90 k.  The Apple ¨Ý were 140 k single
sided 35 track (maybe?).  The Heath Co. came out with a soft
sector that held 180 k.  And all these were hacked to use more
sides and tracks (making for an interesting Z-90 unit that
read both hard and soft sector disks).

> robert c lewis

> programming the HP-2000C in BASIC (we had a terminal on leased line at the
> high-school))

Yup, that was my intro to computers in college.  ASR-33's
anybody?  Also got to use it directly with a FORTRAN of sorts.
Paper tape loadable.

>  But in the end I
> had a machine that one could type in a program from the keyboard (limited
> hex editor or bootstrap loader, or debug/monitor if you will), and jump to
> run that program (it ran as a subroutine, so it would return to the
> monitor upon completion). But building a CRT character display, and a mass
> storage device I never got to. Life got complex fast as the computer
> 'revolution' brought faster, cheaper, and more powerful machines to life
> with far less effort.

For the F8 I had I did build the tape drive interface (reel-to-
reel) a hex keyboard and display, and finally the terminal that
used a monitor.  I don't think I can still make a working circuit
like that FSK tape interface.

Steve

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              Rick Kozak 
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> >
> >What about making an aluminum sand-casting yourself.  It's done all the
> >time for machinery parts where accuracy is essential as well.
> >
> >Dale
>
> I think Dale has the right idea.  We're turning a mechanical problem into
> a computer problem-- CAD programs?  Three-dee lasers?  Pshaw!  How about a
> old feller with a lathe/mill and some time on his hands? :)

Sand casting is the same technology used to make golf club heads. Thing is,
the heads don't come out of the cast ready to use, and neither will the
case. There will be several grinding, polishing, etc. *manual* steps
required. You'd still be looking at a couple of hundred dollars per case,
unless you farm it out to some third world country. But then, you've got the
little matter of volume to contend with. Nobody offshore is going to make
you one or even ten. You'd better be ready to order a thousand... and the
fly out there to make sure they're doing it right. The last thing you want
is a container full of aluminum scrap :-)

All the old (officially retired) fellers I know with the right tools are as
busy as they want to be, charging $50/hr or more.

I'm not saying it can't be done, and you may even find someone willing to
bang out a couple just for something to do on winter evenings, but you won't
do it commercially for a reasonable price without some serious volume.

rick

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              Hal Goldstein 
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<>

Prolink is definitely not Thaddeus.

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<>

Assuming backlight does become available, the upgrade can be done on a
100LX, 1000CX, 200LX, and 700LX.

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Message-Id: <20000107154019.RITL5516@Ý12.72.163.248¨>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:40:19 +0000

Well, "prolink" responded to my email query after all, and appears to be an
individual (or entity) based around Miami, Florida (per the area code
provided to me for contact).

Still no explanation (by email) for the buyouts, and I'm hesitant at the
moment to make the long-distance call to find out (and besides, I don't
have anything immediately to sell).  I haven't said anything false or
misleading to prolink as you list members are my "friends" mentioned, and
depending on his answer, it may be worthwhile to deal with him to get a
quick sell and good price on a 100/200LX you're trying to unload.

Any conjectures?  My original email looks like it went thru a Spanish
language mail server.  I wonder if 200LX's command top dollar in Latin
America?

- Longden

   >"Prolink Trading"  on 01/06/2000 11:52:00 AM
   >Dear Longden ,
   >How are you ? I do have interest of purchasing 100LX's and 200LX's ,
   >we don't know yet about the 95LX but also could be a possibility .
   >I would like to talk with you about it , my phone number is
   >305-655-1005 or cell. 305-498-9420.
   >Thank 's !
   >Alex.
   >-----Mensagem Original-----
   >De: 
   >Para: 
   >Enviada em: Quarta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2000 14:30

   >> Hello.  I see from ebay activity that you're interested in acquiring
   >>200LXs. Would you or your company be interested in 95LX and 100LXs as
   >>well?

   >>I have some friends with a variety of 95/100/200 in various conditions
   >>(working and not), and wondered if you would deal directly with them
   >>or only via ebay.

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> Any conjectures?  My original email looks like it went thru a Spanish
> language mail server.  I wonder if 200LX's command top dollar in Latin
> America?

I have done some business with Prolink and they do sell palmtops and
upgrades to South America. I don't know any specifics, though.

Cheers,
 Mack                            mailto:mack@times2tech.com

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Don't give up.  The README file gives the name of the author (Christopher E.
Long) and a company name (Visionary Endeavors) and address.  While I
couldn't locate the author by name, his company is listed in my DeLorme
Phone Search USA CDROMs with the same phone number as the README gave.  The
address does not include a P.O. box number, but the city and ZIP code have
changed to:

Visionary Endeavors
Jacksonville, FL  32203
904-247-0062

I tried calling the number at 10:30 this morning, but there was no answer
and no machine picked up.  He may just be at work, doing a real job.

Alan

>From: David Ball Ýmailto:dmb10@SWBELL.NET¨
>Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 3:55 PM
>...
>>Now that it has been determined that family Scrapbook is Y2k compliant, I
>...
>>The biggest problem is that the author seems to have dissappeared.
>
>Indeed.  I would gladly register this program.

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> Mine just cracked.  It seems to open slightly more when closing the lid
> whereas the opening seems to bring the edges closer.  I have not repaired it
> yet.  The crack is so small I do not know how I can get any glue into it
> rather than around it.

Yup - mine looked more like a scratch than a crack when I first noticed
it and only after discussions similar to this - I started looking and
did not think it was a crack.  A magnifying glass confirmed it was a
crack.

The repair with superglue definitely looked worse than the crack since
it was hard, as you indicate, to apply glue to such a thin opening.

Someone suggesting applying scotch tape or similar on either side and
trying to work between the strips of tape.

good luck if you attempt a repair.

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<>

Yes, as I surmised before, he probably has clients who need 200LX's. In
Miami there are a number of reps for Brazil where several large corporations
have (and need) a large number of 200LX's.

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I have a tiny (looks like a scratch) crack beginning on my LX as well. I
had a full-fledged crack on my old unit last year, and I fixed it by
using epoxy and some of those fancy brass corners you can get at the
hardware store. It looked a little gaudy, but I kind of liked it. Gave
it "character".   : ¬ )

If my current hinge crack gets any worse, I'm planning to do the same
'brass enhancement' to it as well.

Steve

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   F. Kaufman ÝSMTP:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨
        Sent:   Friday, January 07, 2000 7:58 AM
        To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        Subject:        Re: HINGE CRACKING

        > Mine just cracked.  It seems to open slightly more when
closing the lid
        > whereas the opening seems to bring the edges closer.  I have
not repaired it
        > yet.  The crack is so small I do not know how I can get any
glue into it
        > rather than around it.

        Yup - mine looked more like a scratch than a crack when I first
noticed
        it and only after discussions similar to this - I started
looking and
        did not think it was a crack.  A magnifying glass confirmed it
was a
        crack.


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RE: HINGE CRACKING




I have a tiny (looks like a scratch) crack =
beginning on my LX as well. I had a full-fledged crack on my old unit =
last year, and I fixed it by using epoxy and some of those fancy brass =
corners you can get at the hardware store. It looked a little gaudy, =
but I kind of liked it. Gave it "character".   : ¬ =
)



If my current hinge crack gets any worse, I'm =
planning to do the same 'brass enhancement' to it as well.




Steve 



    

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    From:   F. Kaufman =
ÝSMTP:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨

    Sent:   Friday, January 07, 2000 7:58 AM

    To:     =
HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu

    Subject:       =
 Re: HINGE CRACKING

    


    > Mine just cracked.  It seems =
to open slightly more when closing the lid

    > whereas the opening seems to =
bring the edges closer.  I have not repaired it

    > yet.  The crack is so small =
I do not know how I can get any glue into it

    > rather than around it.

    


    Yup - mine looked more like a scratch =
than a crack when I first noticed

    it and only after discussions similar =
to this - I started looking and

    did not think it was a crack.  A =
magnifying glass confirmed it was a

    crack.

    

    




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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 11:19:24 -0500
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For a quick pointer to a version of the 'brass enhancement' done by another
user, see http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/hpcrack.htm.

Alan

>From: Steve Dowell Ýmailto:sdowell@HARRAHS.COM¨
>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 11:10 AM
>...
>I have a tiny (looks like a scratch) crack beginning
>on my LX as well. I had a full-fledged crack on my old
>unit last year, and I fixed it by using epoxy and some
>of those fancy brass corners you can get at the
>hardware store. It looked a little gaudy, but I kind
>of liked it. Gave it "character".   : ¬ )
>If my current hinge crack gets any worse, I'm planning
>to do the same 'brass enhancement' to it as well.

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Hello,

I missed the original positing, but the follow-ups appear to indicate a
problem printing to a IrDA printer from a 200LX.  Attached is a link on
the HP support site for a 200LX IrDA Printer Driver:

http://www.hp.com/cposupport/handheld_computers/software/irda200.zip.html

Hope this helps,
--
John Severance, System Generation & Delivery Unit (SGDU), M/S CU327
Phone:  970-679-3589                    Agilent Technologies, Inc.
  FAX:  970-679-5952                    815 14th Street S.W.
Email:  John_Severance@agilent.com      Loveland, CO 80539-0301

> D Dv wrote:
> > Does anyone know if it is possible to print to the above printer
> > using something other than Tom Rundel's program?
>

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I really don't "get" this whole situation. I love my HP, and it is a
constant companion, but like others I have had MANY units with the hinge
crack. To HP's credit, they have replaced EVERY unit, under warrantee,
BUT I don't understand how they could continue to sell this unit for
YEARS, knowing that the units fail...... and I can't beleive they didn't
"know".

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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:37:00 -0200
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              Carlos A Rodrigues Alves 
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May be a hint.

Here in Brazil Coca Cola, and others companies, uses the HP200LX to colect
orders from custumers.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Goldstein ÝSMTP:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
> Sent: Sexta-feira, 7 de Janeiro de 2000 16:03
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: 200LX and the ebay connection
>
> < language mail server.  I wonder if 200LX's command top dollar in Latin
> America?>>
>
> Yes, as I surmised before, he probably has clients who need 200LX's. In
> Miami there are a number of reps for Brazil where several large
> corporations
> have (and need) a large number of 200LX's.
>
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Okay gang,

I've had my 200LX for over 2 years with no sign of the hinge
crack.  Am I safe now?  My impression is that the crack tends
to form in early use.

Ted

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Alas, in my opinion, no. They can break early on, or very late. My
father has a unit
some 3+ years old. The hinge is still solid, but when I look VERY
closely, I can see
it starting. It seems to be a function of useage and hinge tightness.

Larry


Theodore Heise wrote:
>
> Okay gang,
>
> I've had my 200LX for over 2 years with no sign of the hinge
> crack.  Am I safe now?  My impression is that the crack tends
> to form in early use.
>
> Ted
>
> --
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   >I've had my 200LX for over 2 years with no sign of the hinge
   >crack.  Am I safe now?  My impression is that the crack tends
   >to form in early use.
Message-Id: <20000107170546.TGLL1891@Ý12.72.231.11¨>
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:05:46 +0000

Wrong.  It forms shortly after you post a "...but I don't have a hinge
crack" message on the list .

- Longden (with 2 LX's proudly wearing the superglue medal of distinction)

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   ><Spanish language mail server.  I wonder if 200LX's command top
   >dollar in Latin America?>>
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:06:01 +0000

   >Yes, as I surmised before, he probably has clients who need 200LX's.
   >In Miami there are a number of reps for Brazil where several large
   >corporations have (and need) a large number of 200LX's.

Thanks Hal, Mack and Carlos.  Good to know that the 200LX still enjoys some
serious corporate consideration (Coca Cola even).

Besides, I was getting worried that the LX was being blackmarket exported
to become the backbone computing infrastrucure for some third world nation
.

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 lloo@worldnet.att.net wrote:

> Wrong.  It forms shortly after you post a "...but I don't have a hinge
> crack" message on the list .


DOH!

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Definitely a good move.   Will you need to buy the SDK ?

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 nxw988e@tninet.se wrote:

> Hey,I have seen a 320LX and I ofcourse knew about its bad
> contrast:-),but I didn't know that the touch-screen was removeable?

Well, not easily, but when I was removing the backlight to test in the
200LX, I found that the touch screen comes off the 320LX as well.

> How big is the improvement?

The LCD becomes much sharper and clearer.  A big improvement.  Of course,
then you have no mouse, but I found it worth the improvement.

> Is that also possible do you think on other handhelds?

I would imagine any HP handheld will probably use the same kind of system,
and the touch screen should come off in a similar manner, but I'm not
sure, and definitely not sure about other brands of handhelds.

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Robert Hocking wrote:

> Sign me up.  When can I send one of my palmtops in?

Thaddeus will be doing the upgrades in the United States, and it looks
like Rundel will do them in Europe/Asia.  The backlight upgrade is not
quite ready, though; we're still working on getting optimum brightness for
minimum power.

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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:36:05 -0500
To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
From: prolink1@gate.net (Alexandre Domingues)
Subject: HPLX-L Form Response


Subscriber Comments: it's my iterest to purchase used but in good
working condition HP 100LX's and 200LX's 1 , 2 or 4 MB , dosn't matter
really.

Please contact me, if we can do bussiness - 305-655-1005.
Alex.


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Thanks for your advice.  ...tried both suggestions without success.  Do you
know of a way to disable the battery checking or otherwise bypass it?

- Tony
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Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!... sudden and hard failure on 200LX


> It seems to me that there has been some wisdom on our list regarding a BIG
> problem that's just raised it's ugly head in my HP200LX.
> I've looked in the archives to no avail.
>
> My hplx is suddenly giving me the "MAIN BATTERY VERY LOW" message and show

Try the hard reset:

Ctrl_LEFTSHIFT_on, all pressed at the same time.

Other option - take out all batteries and press the ON key, dissipating
any capacitor.  Some say leave all batteries out for 24 hours.

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Many thanks to Curtis Cameron for his fine work with DBCHECK.  I have used
it to find problems lurking in several files that appear to work just fine
(for now).

While the documentation for DBCHECK helps to understand what is wrong inside
the database files, there is no recommendation for how to repair the errors
it finds.

This is a description of what has worked for me in repairing a number of
.ADB files (not all of them - we'll return to that soon) that all held
errors.

The tools I have employed:

        DBCHECK V1.61 (http://members.aol.com/FreeWhL44/dbcheck.zip)
        Garlic V1.1 (http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/garlic.zip)
        HP 200LX Connectivity Pack Version 1.02


Using DBCHECK, I identified all the files with errors and then copied them
to a new directory for experimentation.

By itself, Garlic was unable to completely eliminate the errors reported,
and the HP Connectivity Pack couldn't do it all by itself, but in sequence,
they fixed almost everything.

First I used Garlic to create a new Appointment Book Database file, like
this:

garlic /d 1996_apt.adb 1996_.adb > 1996_gar.log

Next, with the Connectivity Kit, I used the Xlate/Merge utility to create a
translation from .ADB format to .ADB format.  Yes, that's right, the input
format is the same as the output format.  When it's asked to do this for a
.GDB file, it complains that the formats are identical, but it just goes
right ahead and does it for .ADB files.

No special mapping was necessary, so I just let it run and the final product
of these two steps was (usually) a new, error-free .ADB file, as confirmed
by DBCHECK.

There was one exception -- my 1998_apt.adb file has continued to report,
"Error - data record 329 not found in recurring list."  It may take some
additional work to nail this single remaining fault, but I feel better now
about most of my files.

Alan

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, bravhart mail wrote:

> Thanks for your advice.  ...tried both suggestions without success.
> Do you know of a way to disable the battery checking or otherwise
> bypass it?

Yep.  Mack Baggette's software like KILLMSG or the new version of the
speed driver have this ability built-in.  You can even redefine the
voltage at which the battery warnings will appear, down to 2.0 volts.
Very handy.

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Longden;
                 Thanks for your response.  I still couldn't eliminate the
problem, though.  Except that it'll run on the adapter OK now.  Do you know
of a way to get around the battery check program?  Do the various add-on
battery check programs disable the built-in one and can the threshold be set
by the user?

                                    in frustration...
                                                                 Tony

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To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!... sudden and hard failure on 200LX


   >regarding a BIG problem that's just raised it's ugly head in my
   >HP200LX. I've looked in the archives to no avail.
   >My hplx is suddenly giving me the "MAIN BATTERY VERY LOW" message
   >and show the "gas gauge" as empty on a continual basis even though
   >the batteries are definitely good.  This even happens when its on
   >the external adapter! "Setup" even indicates that it is aware that
   >the adapter is in use, but, still insists that it reports "MAIN
   >BATTERY VERY LOW", "gas gauge" empty, and shuts down upon "ESC"
   >pressed!
Message-Id: <20000101005250.LZQT10418@Ý12.72.154.188¨>
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 00:52:50 +0000

Maybe something in memory is corrupted.  I think some postings indicated
misleading battery level problems that were fixed only by draining the
system (remove AA's and backup lithium, press the On key for 30-60 sec to
drain) and then powering back up again.

Of course, backup your data before this, since all of C drive gets hosed.

There's apparently some data maintained in parts of memory that persists
even thru reboots, and this is the only way to clear it out, if it goes
bad. Worth a try if all else fails.  Good luck.

- Longden

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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:16:17 -0500
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              Bill Schell 
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OK, since I was curious too, I sent some mail to prolink1@gate.net
and asked him what he does with the 200LX's.  He said
"We buy them for parts".    That was it.  I invited him to join us here,
but heard  nothing further.

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> Please stop this thread or I will have to start to tell you of the masochistic
joy of editing punched paper tape by line
>  and character position in FORTRAN II on an HP2100, or how incredibly easy it
is to delete lines from punched card decks.
>
...Or the equally infernal joy of spending most of a day transcribing your
world's longest COBOL program onto a deck of punched cards too thick to jam into
your overcoat pocket ...then dropping half the cards in the snow on your mad
dash from the Student Residence to the Computer Sciences building.

"Anybody here got a hairdryer?"
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              David Sargeant 
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Great info on fixing ADB files.  Mind if I quote your message in the 200LX
FAQ?

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My lid hinge cracked after about 2 years of owning my '200. I was able to
get some superglue into the crack then hold it together till the glue set
up. I also put *1 drop* (not more) of WD40 into the hinge on the same side
as the crack. The lid opens much easier now, and I was able to use my pocket
knife to scrape down the ridge left by the glue, so that it is nearly
unnoticable. I hope this takes care of the problem... been OK for a couple
of months so far.

Dan

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From: Jeff Malka 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: HINGE CRACKING


> Mine just cracked.  It seems to open slightly more when closing the lid
> whereas the opening seems to bring the edges closer.  I have not repaired
it
> yet.  The crack is so small I do not know how I can get any glue into it
> rather than around it.
>
> Jeff Malka 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jerome V Healy 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 6:09 PM
> Subject: HINGE CRACKING
>
>
> > > Does anyone have any statistics on hinge/lid cracking, I want to know
> > > what proportion of 100/200LX's suffer the proble.
> >
> > Jerome V. Healy
> >
> >
>
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              "Striegel, Alan" 
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Quote away!  Everything on the list is public, right?  Then maybe a few
years from today, when I forget how it was done, I can re-discover it in the
FAQ. :-)

Alan

>From: David Sargeant Ýmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
>Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 2:54 PM
>
>Great info on fixing ADB files.  Mind if I quote your message in the 200LX
>FAQ?

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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:17:00 -0500
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              Jeff Malka 
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I called the number.  It now belongs to a family that knows nothing of
Christopher Long.

If you locate him let me know.

Jeff Malka 
----- Original Message -----
From: Striegel, Alan 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Genealogy on the hplx


> Don't give up.  The README file gives the name of the author (Christopher
E.
> Long) and a company name (Visionary Endeavors) and address.  While I
> couldn't locate the author by name, his company is listed in my DeLorme
> Phone Search USA CDROMs with the same phone number as the README gave.
The
> address does not include a P.O. box number, but the city and ZIP code have
> changed to:
>
> Visionary Endeavors
> Jacksonville, FL  32203
> 904-247-0062
>
> I tried calling the number at 10:30 this morning, but there was no answer
> and no machine picked up.  He may just be at work, doing a real job.
>
> Alan
>
> >From: David Ball Ýmailto:dmb10@SWBELL.NET¨
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 3:55 PM
> >...
> >>Now that it has been determined that family Scrapbook is Y2k compliant,
I
> >...
> >>The biggest problem is that the author seems to have dissappeared.
> >
> >Indeed.  I would gladly register this program.
>
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I don't recall anybody posting about it, but I may have missed it ... has
anybody succeeded in making Personal Ancestral File 3.0 look decent on the
200LX's screen?  Ordinarily the colors don't work out very well.

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>> Mack, I heard you figured out how to look at the data inside the REX. Could
you
>> give us more details?
>>
> It is basically and SRAM card with a special layout for the data. There is
> no file format on it, just pure data with some header info up front and a
> linked list on 1k boundaries.
>
Does anyone know the electrical requirements to read/write data to a Rex card?
If these are beyond the capacity of the LX, the show's over.

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Gareth
I have used the infared port on my 200LX to comunicate with a Omnibook
300 and an Omnibook 425. I think I had it working with and Omnibook 430
as well.
You can use laplink remote from Win3.1 on the omnibook or you can use
the connectivity pack palmtop emulator and connect through filer.
Each machine has to have the correct port selected (com 3 is infared on
the omnibook) and the speeds have to match.
E-mail me if you need more detail.
As far as the mouse problem goes it may be simpler than you think.
What are the symptoms?
When you reboot the (up to the 425) omnibook you can hit Alt and select
boot from D: (ROM disk) which will re-set everything to factory
settings.
Unfortunately I think the 430 ROM only has DOS not DOS and WIN3.1 so it
may not include the mouse driver.
If you want to hear more about Omnibooks you might consider subscribing
to the Omnibook list. E-mail me and I'll send you more info

Andrew King
Chicago
HP200LX
HP425LX (omnibook)



Date:    Sun, 26 Dec 1999 11:00:34 -0000
From:    Gareth Powell 
Subject: Re: FLUFF:English Grammar
    I use a 200 LX and a Hewlett-Packard Omnibook 430. I have Windows 95
installed on the latter and use a memory card for swapping data.
    In poncing around with my Omnibook 430 I seem to have disenabled the
mouse thingy that pops out which may look little and weak but is
normally perfect for what I need. I have made a work-around by fitting
another mouse to the serial port but I would like my built-in mouse back
in operation.
    Does anyone on this forum have an Omnibook of that age -- that was
the mono job and for my money the best laptop for journalists -- and the
needed mouse drivers? And, if possible, advice on where to install it?
Hewlett-Packard, but of course, think I am talking of some device of the
devil. It is over five years old and therefore. in H-P's opinion, past
history which should not be exhumed.
 One last point -- it is Boxing day and I am being prolix so forgive me.
    I have followed with interest the discussions on the infrared port.
    On the 200 LX I am fairly sure it is non-standard. The infrared port
of the 200LX will not, under normal circumstances, communicate with the
infrared port on the  Omnibook 430. Years ago when this was important to
me I found that it is just possible to use some sort of workaround. But
a Ramdisk is a quicker and more elegant solution.

Gareth Powell

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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:05:08 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg 
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This guy is selling a cellular gsm phone and a dc23 pcmcia modem for it
for about $100.
A nice combination wich I use for my hp200lx. Otherwice I would have =
bought it
myself.


> PCCARD-modem Ericsson DC23 + Ericsson 388 i gott skick. Allt funkar
> perfekt.
> P:800kr+frakt.
>
> Mats_Karpsater@hotmail.com
>

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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> Well, "prolink" responded to my email query after all, and appears to be an
> individual (or entity) based around Miami, Florida (per the area code
> provided to me for contact).
Ýsnip¨
> Any conjectures?  My original email looks like it went thru a Spanish
> language mail server.  I wonder if 200LX's command top dollar in Latin
> America?
>
>>-----Mensagem Original-----
  >>De: 
   >>Para: 
   >>Enviada em: Quarta-feira, 5 de Janeiro de 2000 14:30
>
Portugese, if I'm not mistaken.

 Quick everybody -- point your search engines to "prolink AND portugal"!

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Longden Loo wrote:
>
> Any conjectures?  My original email looks like it went thru a Spanish
> language mail server.  I wonder if 200LX's command top dollar in Latin
> America?
>
> - Longden
>
>    >"Prolink Trading"  on 01/06/2000 11:52:00 AM
>    >Dear Longden ,
>    >How are you ? I do have interest of purchasing 100LX's and 200LX's ,
>    >we don't know yet about the 95LX but also could be a possibility .
>    >I would like to talk with you about it , my phone number is
>    >305-655-1005 or cell. 305-498-9420.

All of the phone numbers seems different, but there is this place....

http://www.prolink-trading.com/

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Greetings,

I know several people on the list are using Genealogy programs on their 200lx.
Can anyonge give me a rundown on availability, useability and where I can get
these programs to try. I am just getting into my family history

TIA

Joe

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 17:49:24 -0600
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              Ed Keefe 
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Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM mentioned "dropping half the cards in the snow on
your mad
dash from the Student Residence to the Computer Sciences building. "

I thought that only happened to me. The year was '71. I was clipped by a car
sliding on the pavement in an ice storm. Two boxes of cards with my thesis
in them went up in the wind. I understand that the cards are still floating
to earth.  (I did have a duplicate set of cards elsewhere.)
.ed.

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I have used the HPIL. The pc interface card does not work above DOS3.3.
Something about networking support in DOS5.0.
David Peterson

On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:55:33 -0800 Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
 writes:
> I'm cleaning up here, and have run across some stuff that someone
> here
> might be interested in.  I have some HPIL technical documents, and,
> I
> think, some HPIL connectors, transformers, and IC's, as well as an
> IBM-PC HPIL interface and and an HP PC to HPIB interface or two.
>
> If anyone is interested in this old stuff, or know of anyone who
> might
> be interested, please let me know.
>
> 73, doug
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Mine didn't appear until after 4 years of daily use.

On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 10:46:06 -0600 Theodore Heise 
writes:
> Okay gang,
>
> I've had my 200LX for over 2 years with no sign of the hinge
> crack.  Am I safe now?  My impression is that the crack tends
> to form in early use.

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              "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" 
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Sounds like we would need to create a corporation (Nevada corporation?)
to hold the money, reduce/distribute liability, and make sure everything
is lawful and everyone is proteced.  I know a few trustworthy attorneys
(yep, they are a rare breed!), both in and out of Nevada, who would be
glad to help out with such an undertaking.


> Subject: Re: Metal Body Shell to Full Metal Jacket
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:41:44 +0100
> From: Sidney Ho 
> Re: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things
>
> There seems to be enough enthusiasm on the list to do a metal shell
> and to
> share costs.
>
> I have a more radical idea. Everyone sitting down?
>
> How about if a die hard group of us approached HP to license or buy
> out the
> tooling, drawings, manufacturing rights to the HPLX including the
> software
> bundles. Then some more development?  
>

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              "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" 
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I also had concerns about power draw (see below), I just thought that
someone else had already taken that into consideration.  It is
definitely a problem.  Also, I've seen the Rex on eBay, etc. for as
little as $12!  (Yes, I double-checked, it's not just the docking
station!)

As for Prolink, I suggest that we do not sell any 200lx's on eBay, and
that we offer them for sale here first, then try eBay.  Or use a private
auction on eBay.  Otherwise, Prolink will drive prices up so that no
regular folks can afford them.

Just my thoughts...

Regards, Richard

> Subject: Re: Rex on 200lx
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:32:01 -0500
> From: Bruce Martin >
> Does anyone know the electrical requirements to read/write data to a
> Rex card?
> If these are beyond the capacity of the LX, the show's over.
>
> Bruce in Toronto

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How do I keep my 200LX on without autoshutoff?
I know there's a file you can do in debug - but it didn't
work for me before - only sometimes - I'd like the machine to stay on from
5-20 minutes at a time without shutoff.

I have NiMH batteries, so battery usage isn't that big an issue.

Thanks,

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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:57:07 -0800
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I'm sure this has probably been asked before, but I did do some reasearch -
what options do I have for internet connectivity?

All I need is telnet capability, POP3 is optional.  In fact, I could *live*
on telnet (I do at home, but working at an ISP, that
isn't quite a reality).

Thanks,

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              Fryday 
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Sounds perfect, although you could improve on it by allowing for inclusive
multiple criteria, something like:

, ,  , , , ..., ,

Love Letters, From, girlfriend
Light Reading, From, girlfriend, Subj, fluff
Useless junk, Subj, WinCE
Email account 1, From, girlfriend, Subj, WinCE, To, emailacct1@isp.com
Email account 2, to, emailacct2@isp.com

So the user could provide up to, say, 5 criteria to specify where an e-mail
should go.

Here's another way:

, , , , , , ...,
, 

This allows the user to specify what criteria to check when an email goes into a
folder () and if the criteria is true, what folder to put it into
. You can then repeat the check again with the new 
location of the email, and stop when either no criteria has an  equal
to the current email folder, or when no criteria is true.

This would allow for very complex folder selection.

Philippe

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 5:16 PM
Subject: ccLXPOP folder selection ideas


> I am configuring a "folder selection" process for cclxpop, and I am soliciting
> inputs on how it might function. My idea right now is to have a file thaat is
> evaluated sequentially to establish if a particular field has a particular
> string, and if so, it will be sent to a particular folder. Something along
> these lines:
> {Field, parameter, folder}
>
> From, girlfriend, Love Letters
> Subj, fluff, Light Reading
> Subj, WinCE, Useless junk
> To, emailacct1@isp.com, Email account 1
> to, emailacct2@isp.com, Email account 2
>
> The first match would result in the email being routed to that folder. My
going
> in position is that the searches would not be case sensitive, and I would use
> simple comma delimited strings as above.
>
> I would appreciate any user insight as to what you would find useful /
> desirable in this function, and if you think it is worthwhile at all.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brian
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              Fryday 
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Hard to say. Doesn't look from the SDK site that they will sell it, but maybe
when they come out of "beta" mode, it'll resurface as a product.

Philippe

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Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: TrueSync by Starfish


> Definitely a good move.   Will you need to buy the SDK ?
>
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Did I read right: Availability is Feb 2000?

Philippe

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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 9:08 PM
Subject: Update on 486 200LX


> Someone was asking in the list about 486 project for
> HP200LX in Japan. Check this URL out for lastest
> update
>
> http://www.morphyone.org/release/rel19991115.shtml
>
> Regards
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              Fryday 
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Yes, I agree. There's a need for a die hard group (other than those already
working hard on the LX, like the D&A folks and the Backlight folks). Problem is,
it's really hard to have people commit to any projects until they are sold on
it. Then the legwork starts. Count me in for financial help. But I'm trying to
get my time dedicated to the TrueSync project otherwise.

Thanks,

Philippe

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To: 
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> Re: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things
>
> There seems to be enough enthusiasm on the list to do a metal shell and to
> share costs.
>
> I have a more radical idea. Everyone sitting down?
>
> How about if a die hard group of us approached HP to license or buy out the
> tooling, drawings, manufacturing rights to the HPLX including the software
> bundles. Then some more development?
>
> I suppose we would have to mess with Microsoft on the DOS license or we
> could use DR-DOS (I think Novell bought Digital Research some years back).
> Memory capacity has improved a lot so ROM/RAM could be upgraded from the
> beginning. Without stepping outside of the form factor LxW, possibly we
> could consider supporting Type III PC cards as well, allowing for a lot more
> options. (A 520mb PC HD costs a fraction of the flash card and could be
> usable when plugged in or for quick battery backups/file swaps). We are
> already talking increased thickness on metal jackets but a max 4mm increase
> in thickness (in the bottom part of the case) is easy. A 5mm L x 3mm W would
> allow a ruggedized execution and easy fitting of a large screen but would
> require extra molds to be made. That size increase would be the limit of a
> palm form factor. A more rounded back could allow 2 more batteries to
> support greater power consumption (if needed).
>
> Personally I'd like to see DOS 6.22 or any version that allowed us to
> overcome the 640kb ram limitation. The programmers could look at ways to
> improve the bundles. A larger screen could be used, backlighting
> incorporated (possibly integrated with the ongoing project). There is no
> better group than the HPLX list to be critical and brainstorm how to improve
> the software, update the functions and hardware.
>
> I do Arch/Eng/Planning but our main work is in industrial projects. We've
> installed a lot of manufacturing in the Far East (mainly PRC); we know
> molding and plastic engineering compounds and I can link to board
> manufacturers. We have offices in China, Switzerland and Italy. I'm
> regularly in the USA (usually SoCal).
>
> If others can do knowledgeable leg work I'd consider joining an investment
> pool to back such a project. Honestly, I don't think it should cost too much
> to acquire the tooling and rights from HP. I also can discuss the contract
> issues of licensing with HP but am not in a position to do it from here
> (Switzerland) without someone else chasing down the responsible/empowered HP
> people to talk to.
>
> Anyway, just some half-serious thoughts ready to get serious under the right
> circumstances...if enough hardware/software guys get involved for the love
> of the LX, who knows?
>
> Maybe a Linux port??? Maybe 256mb ram???
>
> ---
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Fri,  7 Jan 2000 22:11:13 -0500 (EST)

01h22m06s ago ...
On Fri,  7 Jan 2000, Paul Khoury wrote:

> How do I keep my 200LX on without autoshutoff?
> I know there's a file you can do in debug - but it didn't
> work for me before - only sometimes - I'd like the machine to stay on =
from
> 5-20 minutes at a time without shutoff.

You can either set a longer time before powerdown or shut off lite
sleep.  IIRC - you can do both with LXSTAT (I think on SUPER) and also
with Buddy.  Also, there's a full-screen digital clock called VCLOCK
that allows you to set the powerdown time.  Changing the time is a
much better option than killing lite sleep.  Also HP-Pygmy Forth has
these functions built in.

I think all the files are available on SUPER.


HTH

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              John J Vanderstel 
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>Someone was asking in the list about 486 project for
>HP200LX in Japan. Check this URL out for lastest
>update
>
>http://www.morphyone.org/release/rel19991115.shtml

Thanks for the info source, See. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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I think this suggestion to get the rights and make our own is excellent.

I would vote for a later DOS as well, or, preferably Linux.

Count me in!!!

I was a manager of software development teams for a number of years and
set up/managed a large corporate software testing facility and team.

I also have a son who is graduating with a degree in computer sciences
-- hardware design.  I might be able to twist his arm for some
assistance.

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Date:         Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:58:26 -1000
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              Bob Graham 
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I'm running Ver 2.2 and it looks fine.

Aloha - bob     |ooo_
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Date:    Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:48:06 -0800
From:    David Sargeant 
Subject: Re: Genealogy on the hplx

I don't recall anybody posting about it, but I may have missed it
... has
anybody succeeded in making Personal Ancestral File 3.0 look
decent on the
200LX's screen?  Ordinarily the colors don't work out very well.

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Bob Graham wrote:

> I'm running Ver 2.2 and it looks fine.

Yes, before version 3.0, PAF didn't really use colors, so far as I can
tell.  In fact, it mostly looked like a series of batch files.  Version
3.0 is much more professional-looking, but unfortunately that makes it
harder to see on the palmtop screen.

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At 03:17 PM 1/7/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I know several people on the list are using Genealogy programs on their
200lx.
>Can anyonge give me a rundown on availability, useability and where I can get
>these programs to try. I am just getting into my family history

Family Scrapbook is available on the Palmtop Super Site.  Or rather, it
links to an offline file which you can download.  It is extremely powerful
and complete--and runs well on the 200LX as well.  I highly recommend it.


Regards,

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:01:56 +0900
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              akinobu fukuzaki 
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Hi all,

Morphyone project team does not have any plan to make
a compatible machine with HP200LX, I mean, it will
have no compatibility with HP200LX, it is just like a
PC. so, it should be very difficult to use same application
of HP200LX on Morphyone.

cao,
akinobu fukuzaki

>>Someone was asking in the list about 486 project for
>>HP200LX in Japan. Check this URL out for lastest
>>update
>>
>>http://www.morphyone.org/release/rel19991115.shtml
>
>Thanks for the info source, See. :-)
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From: akinobu fukuzaki 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
Date: Saturday, January 08, 2000 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: Update on 486 200LX


>Hi all,
>
>Morphyone project team does not have any plan to make
>a compatible machine with HP200LX, I mean, it will
>have no compatibility with HP200LX, it is just like a
>PC. so, it should be very difficult to use same application
>of HP200LX on Morphyone.

Yes and no... while its not designed to be an HP compatible and would
be unable to run the built-in Sysmgr apps etc of the 200lx, it would be able
to run PAL applications using Palrun just as they are on other PC's... Not
perfect, but better than using a WinCE unit running a XT emulator with PAL
support. :)

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>cao,
>akinobu fukuzaki
>
>>>Someone was asking in the list about 486 project for
>>>HP200LX in Japan. Check this URL out for lastest
>>>update
>>>
>>>http://www.morphyone.org/release/rel19991115.shtml
>>
>>Thanks for the info source, See. :-)
>----------------------------------------------------
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>TEL  81-42-585-8600 ext.3108
>e-mail: fukuzaki@cap.bekkoame.ne.jp
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Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
> Fri,  7 Jan 2000 22:11:13 -0500 (EST)
>
> 01h22m06s ago ...
> On Fri,  7 Jan 2000, Paul Khoury wrote:
>
> > How do I keep my 200LX on without autoshutoff?
> > I know there's a file you can do in debug - but it didn't
> > work for me before - only sometimes - I'd like the machine to stay on from
> > 5-20 minutes at a time without shutoff.
>
> You can either set a longer time before powerdown or shut off lite
> sleep.  IIRC - you can do both with LXSTAT (I think on SUPER) and also
> with Buddy.  Also, there's a full-screen digital clock called VCLOCK
> that allows you to set the powerdown time.  Changing the time is a
> much better option than killing lite sleep.  Also HP-Pygmy Forth has
> these functions built in.
>
> I think all the files are available on SUPER.
>
> HTH
>
> Peniel
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Hello Peniel: I agree with you changing the time is much better option.
by the way question can you go from a text file to a 95lx? the text file
has the same set of fields as the phone book (in the 95lx) I PUT THE
QUESTION TO THE GROUP
but no answer I guess it can't be done correct?
                                        Bob1

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Ed Keefe wrote:
>
> Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM mentioned "dropping half the cards in the snow on
> your mad
> dash from the Student Residence to the Computer Sciences building. "
>
> I thought that only happened to me. The year was '71. I was clipped by a car
> sliding on the pavement in an ice storm. Two boxes of cards with my thesis
> in them went up in the wind. I understand that the cards are still floating
> to earth.  (I did have a duplicate set of cards elsewhere.)
> .ed.
>
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Hi Ed! samething happen to me back in the 60's thank GOD for on line.
The Students
now have it made.
Ed, I have put this question to the GROUP  but no answer yet. I don't
know if it can be done.

I have a number of hp's lx's 95,200,320,620 my question is can you take
a text file
that has the same number of fields as the phone book in the 95lx, upload
it to the
phone book in the 95lx? of course I FORMATED OUT as a cd1 extension that
is what the 95lx is looking for to convert. I think that is right.
please check me out.

                             Think You
                                        Bob1

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Yes you did.. I read some of the materials in Japanese
and all seems to be going rather smoothly. The even
projected the initial cost per unit to be around
Yen80,000.

SeeGhee

--- Fryday  wrote:
> Did I read right: Availability is Feb 2000?
>
> Philippe
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: See Ghee Tan 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 9:08 PM
> Subject: Update on 486 200LX
>
>
> > Someone was asking in the list about 486 project
> for
> > HP200LX in Japan. Check this URL out for lastest
> > update
> >
> > http://www.morphyone.org/release/rel19991115.shtml
> >
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Hi friends,

> Sounds like an old copy protection system.
>
> Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>
> > But is's a _very_ mysterious diskette:
> > The game only starts, when I _boot_ my PC with this diskette (yes, even
> > on my K6-233 this game works!)

thanks for your answers - maybe it's really a copy protection. But I
found the game at http://gangsters.org . And now I can throw away the
diskette! :-)
BTW: The game looks very nice on the palmtop, but the keyboard isn't
working. It's the game J-Bird. gangsters.org links to www.gamingdepot.com
(if I remember correctly). I downloaded J-Bird. Works well on my
desktop machine.

Actually the bird is controlled by the keys 1,3,7 and 9 of the
numerical key pad of a PC keyboard.
On the palmtop it behaves if the "lower right" key (3) is pressed all
the time. Strange.

GTX
daniel

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              Jeff Malka 
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> Yes you did.. I read some of the materials in Japanese
> and all seems to be going rather smoothly. The even
> projected the initial cost per unit to be around
> Yen80,000.

Which is how many US $?

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Bob1 at camba1@pacbell.net asked >> can you take a text file that has the
same number of fields as the phone book in the 95lx, upload it to the phone
book in the 95lx? of course I FORMATED OUT as a cd1 extension that is what
the 95lx is looking for to convert. <<

Bob1, it sounds like you are trying to convert Comma Delimited Files to .PBK
files on the 95LX.
Please look for the THOR utilities on SUPER (www.palmtop.net) The THOR files
are contained in the FREYJA.ZIP file. THORPBK will convert .PBK files to
ASCII and back.

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>
> Morphyone project team does not have any plan to make
> a compatible machine with HP200LX, I mean, it will
> have no compatibility with HP200LX, it is just like a
> PC. so, it should be very difficult to use same application
> of HP200LX on Morphyone.

But most DOS machines run the LX connectivity
pack which is LX applications.   Will the
Morphyone do that?  It shd if its a DOS machine.

al chin

> akinobu fukuzaki


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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 14:06:51 +0100
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Hi all,

Do CF cards work in the LX (with an adaptor?) I think I've seen "CF" in
postings on the list, so I imagine they do but I wanted to hear if there
are any pitfalls.

Also, does it matter which CF to PCMCIA adaptor I buy? I read somewhere
that basically what the adaptor does is convert from the smaller plug on
the CF card to the larger one used by PCMCIA cards - no additional
hardware required. Is this true?

I have my eyes set on a Kingston CF to PCMCIA card adaptor (mainly cause I
can get it cheaply :-) but I've seen adaptors from Sandisk on sale too.

Oh, and does it matter which brand CF cards I use?


Thanks,

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   >Family Scrapbook is available on the Palmtop Super Site.  Or rather,
   >it links to an offline file which you can download.  It is
   >extremely powerful and complete--and runs well on the 200LX as well.
Message-Id: <20000108131449.PBNB8291@Ý12.72.231.122¨>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:14:49 +0000

The SUPER link points to a version 2.02 that's unregistered and warns about
a 40-day trial period.  And yet there's all this talk about not being able
to contact the author in order to register.

I guess I missed the earlier part of this thread, but does this mean the 40
day threat passes without disabling the software, and does it also mean FSB
users have to live with the nag screen?  Thanks.

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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Do CF cards work in the LX (with an adaptor?) I think I've seen "CF" in
Yes!

> postings on the list, so I imagine they do but I wanted to hear if there
> are any pitfalls.
Not really.
>
> Also, does it matter which CF to PCMCIA adaptor I buy? I read somewhere

No, it does not matter, get the cheapest.
> that basically what the adaptor does is convert from the smaller plug on
> the CF card to the larger one used by PCMCIA cards - no additional
> hardware required. Is this true?
That is exactly right.
>
> I have my eyes set on a Kingston CF to PCMCIA card adaptor (mainly cause I
> can get it cheaply :-) but I've seen adaptors from Sandisk on sale too.
>
> Oh, and does it matter which brand CF cards I use?
>

Some are actually marginally faster than others, especially the older
cards. (Off topic, but some of the older full size cards can be
noticeably slower) Don't believe the "8X" speed claim rating by a
certain manufacturer, if you read closely it is not "8x" faster than
other cards, it is 8x faster than a 1x CDROM drive, duh...why this is a
valid comparison I have no idea, but a lot of people fall for the "8x"
on the card. In the digital camera world, the Microtech card with the
new controller is considered to be the fastest. The Lexar 8X is pretty
fast, but I think that the new Sandisk are just as fast.


> Thanks,
>
> Laust
>

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 07:32:32 -0600
Reply-To:     Chris Lott 
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Well, in my quest to read the REX using some sample code Mack gave me,
turns out I need a different compiler.  mack uses the Microsoft C ver
6.00a compiler.  I thought I had it made, as we have a similar but
later version of this same compiler here at work, ver 8.00 (which is
a 16-bit compiler that comes with MSVC 1.5 Prof edition).  Alas, v8
requires a 386 to compile.  I had wanted to do development of this
project on my palmtop, so I'm in the market for a v6 MS C compiler.

Anyone who has one for sale please contact me offlist.

Thanks,

-Chris

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 07:45:17 -0600
Reply-To:     Maynard Riley 
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From:         Maynard Riley 
Subject:      Re: Genealogy on the hplx
Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" 
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I believe that I've located the source for Family Scrapbook:
http://www.pcug.org.au/~chowell/ftpfiles/

These are provided by another avid user, who has more to say
about it on his pages there.


        `~Maynard

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 08:47:46 -0500
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo 
Subject:      Re: Compact Flash cards in the LX?
Comments: cc: laustbn@DIKU.DK

   >Do CF cards work in the LX (with an adaptor?) I think I've seen
   >"CF" in postings on the list, so I imagine they do but I wanted to
   >hear if there are any pitfalls.
Message-Id: <20000108134746.ELPS5516@Ý12.72.163.5¨>
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:47:46 +0000

Yes, CF (Compact Flash) cards do work in the LX with an adaptor, and no I
don't believe I've run into any pitfalls, except maybe in regards to use on
a notebook computer (later on this).

   >Also, does it matter which CF to PCMCIA adaptor I buy? I read
   >somewhere that basically what the adaptor does is convert from the
   >smaller plug on the CF card to the larger one used by PCMCIA cards
   >- no additional hardware required. Is this true?

Generally, any brand adapter works, tho my experience is limited to my
Simple Tech adapter.  CF card plus PCMCIA adapter (for about $US10) is all
you need.

   >I have my eyes set on a Kingston CF to PCMCIA card adaptor (mainly
   >cause I can get it cheaply :-) but I've seen adaptors from Sandisk on
   >sale too.  Oh, and does it matter which brand CF cards I use?

I can't comment on the Kingston brand CF.  Someone else suggested that all
CF cards are basically from 2 sources, but I can't recall seeing that
confirmed.

I have the Sandisk 48mb CF card in a Simple Technology adapter, and the
adapter also worked with 2 other brands of CF cards (Panasonic and Simple
Tech), so it appears to work across vendors.  Some people reported
problems with some CF cards and/or adapters, but they have been few and I
don't recall particulars.

When I tested my CF cards, the Sandisk ran the fastest ... almost as fast
as internal ram using the 1mb performance test... much faster than the
fastest PCMCIA card I had at the time (40mb Simple Tech).

Added bonus was that the Sandisk appeared to draw less power than the
PCMCIA cards as battery life dramtically improved (over PCMCIA) by
something like 30%.  I don't know if this is true for all CF cards.  I
bought my Sandisk when others began commenting on its improved performance.

Also, the Simple Tech CF card appears to use a different controller than
any of the others, and for a while this caused some headaches when using
the card on my notebook computer.  The Sandisk and Panasonic were
recognized without problem, but the Simple Tech took some work and needed
additional drivers (but not on the LX).  Compatibility wise, all worked
without any added software/hardware (except the adapter) on the LX.  If
using the card on a notebook is a possibility, then there may be a
compatibility issue.

- Longden

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 15:08:18 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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Thanks for the replies, that was fast!

Amidst all the fluff, the list is actually quite useful! :-)



Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:59:35 +0900
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              akinobu fukuzaki 
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Subject:      Re: Update on 486 200LX
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Hi,

> But most DOS machines run the LX connectivity
> pack which is LX applications.   Will the
> Morphyone do that?  It shd if its a DOS machine.

Well, some people are trying to make DOS package
which have drivers or so.. wmmmm, hopefully yes.

# Morphyone will be available without any OS.

CAO,
akinobu fukuzaki

> al chin
----------------------------------------------------
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 Akinobu Fukuzaki
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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 09:57:42 -0500
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              Systems-Consulting 
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Subject:      Re: Update on 486 200LX
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>Jeff Malka
> Yen80,000.

>Which is how many US $?



Just use you 200LX and do a currency conversion ;-)


Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 07:14:27 -0800
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From:         See Ghee Tan 
Subject:      Re: Update on 486 200LX
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That should work out to be USD760.

SeeGhee
--- Jeff Malka  wrote:
> > Yes you did.. I read some of the materials in
> Japanese
> > and all seems to be going rather smoothly. The
> even
> > projected the initial cost per unit to be around
> > Yen80,000.
>
> Which is how many US $?
>
> Jeff Malka 
>
>

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 10:15:27 -0500
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> Thanks for the replies, that was fast!
>
> Amidst all the fluff, the list is actually quite useful! :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust

Hello Laust and all you others.

I baught both an adaptor and a 16Mb CF from an authorized HP dealer in =
Stockholm,prize:800 swedish crowns.

It was just to "plug and play":-)

The brand of the adaptor was Sandisk and of the CF IBM.

This is three months  ago and I haven't noticed any problems whatsoever,ex=
cept the ordinary one,that I should have bought a bigger CF...

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:25:22 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: Update on 486 200LX
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> Did I read right: Availability is Feb 2000?

Well, color me uninterested and underwhelmed at the moment.  The metal
shell interests me more than a dos computer with no built-in HP
applications and less than vga-mono graphics ability.  I may change my
mind but ...............

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:27:46 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Thanks for getting back to me.  I was looking for ROM version
1.02.    =Bob=

> I have none of the manuals.  The computer boots up fine with just the AC
> Adapter.  There is a battery in the laptop, but I have no recharger at all.
> I just looked at the back of the ROM card and it says version 1.0.
>

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              smoore 
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I  have (8) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are
in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
$65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only!  I also have (4)

20 Meg name brand Sandisks for sale. I sell (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for
$40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. and I sell (2) 20 MEg
Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping and You can send payment  to my
address at:


Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back  the day I receive your payment and let you know
that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
been really  great.   Thanks alot! and Happy! New Year!    Scott

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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Sat,  8 Jan 2000 13:35:33 -0500 (EST)

$759.59 According to Xenon 1/7/99 & HPCALC

07h21m50s ago ...
On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Jeff Malka wrote:

> > Yes you did.. I read some of the materials in Japanese
> > and all seems to be going rather smoothly. The even
> > projected the initial cost per unit to be around
> > Yen80,000.
>
> Which is how many US $?
>
> Jeff Malka 
>
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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:28:13 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
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Fred.
> Well, color me uninterested and underwhelmed at the moment.  The metal
> shell interests me more than a dos computer with no built-in HP
> applications and less than vga-mono graphics ability.  I may change my
> mind but ...............

Same here!

Regards

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:06:43 -0800
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              Quinton Jones Jr 
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Hi All,


For anybody looking for a used copy of Software Carousel.
I just found this post on the NG.


Good Luck!


--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: albertowh@netscape.net
Subject: FS: Software Carousel for HP 200LX
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 03:36:31 GMT

I have for sale: Software Carousel for HP 200LX (Disk, manual and
registration card included, not box). In good condition. Buyer must pay
shipping. Best offer get it.

Alberto


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.


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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:11:54 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Bob Christopher 
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From:         Bob Christopher 
Subject:      About To Give Up
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I've been trying to buy a used 100lx or 200lx for quite awhile now with no
luck.
Even on Ebay I'm constantly outbid by Prolink1. Thaddeus is sold out of all
used
units. Does anyone on the list have a used unit for sale?

  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
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Date:         Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:51:54 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Martin Bergvill 
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From:         Martin Bergvill 
Subject:      My appt.adb have errors..how do people check/back up?
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I have some (small?) errors in my appointmentbook. I want to correct
these errors. I have tried the tip that David is putting in the Faq,
but I do not have Cpack.

The Garlic file had even more errors. Could somebody fix my
appointmentbook for me? I can still use my appt.adb, but I do not want
the errors there. I am worried the errors will grow in number over
time.

I would also know how people check their
databases/notebooks/appointments before they do a backup. I use
lxbackup/pkzip to back up from c->a

I have read something about this on the list some time ago.

I run nightly backups and I would like not to do backup if dbcheck
returns errors.. I would also like to have a log so that I know that
there are errors and a backup have not been successfull.

The output of dbcheck v.1.61 is below. The earlier versions did not
report any errors.

TIA

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway
-Palmtop friendly sig...


Here is what dbcheck found:

MBAPPT.ADB:
File type: Appointment
.
Error - data record 17 not found in date link list
....................
1 db header, 0 card def
0 categories, 27 fields defined
0 view point defs, 1 view point tables
2 smart clips, 1 lookup tables
606 data records, 48 with notes
Found records:     691     Garbage records:   0
Expected records:  690     Deleted records:   0
Error: links in record(s) point to other non-existent records.
Error: Data record 9 was linked incorrectly.
Error: Data record 17 was linked incorrectly.
Error: Data record 229 was linked incorrectly.
Error: Data record 230 was linked incorrectly.
Error: Data record 462 was linked incorrectly.
Error: Data record 470 was linked incorrectly.
Error: Data record 471 was linked incorrectly.
MBAPPT.ADB had errors.

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Date:         Sun, 9 Jan 2000 01:14:57 +0100
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              Sven Cronenberg 
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I wonder if there is any way to run the hp connecivity pack "app200" from dos under windows98 in a window on the desktop, in stead of the full screen mod ?


Sven

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:48:05 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, F. Kaufman wrote:

> Well, color me uninterested and underwhelmed at the moment.  The metal
> shell interests me more than a dos computer with no built-in HP
> applications and less than vga-mono graphics ability.  I may change my
> mind but ...............

It's not necessarily a DOS computer ... think of the advertising potential
of "LINUX IN YOUR POCKET!"

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:56:07 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Bryan Biggers wrote:

> Some are actually marginally faster than others, especially the older
> cards. (Off topic, but some of the older full size cards can be
> noticeably slower) Don't believe the "8X" speed claim rating by a
> certain manufacturer, if you read closely it is not "8x" faster than
> other cards, it is 8x faster than a 1x CDROM drive, duh...why this is
> a valid comparison I have no idea, but a lot of people fall for the
> "8x" on the card. In the digital camera world, the Microtech card with
> the new controller is considered to be the fastest. The Lexar 8X is
> pretty fast, but I think that the new Sandisk are just as fast.

When I saw their display at Comdex last year, they said the 8X meant 8X
faster than the Sandisk controller.  They didn't mention anything about a
CD-ROM drive, and demonstrations in digital cameras using the Sandisk
cards and the Lexar cards finished much faster with the Lexar cards than
the Sandisk cards.  Of course, these are all write speeds -- most cards
are equally quick at reading, I've found.  And in the 200LX, most new
cards are all just as fast as each other, so I assume that we've hit the
point where the 200LX is the speed-limiting factor and not necessarily the
card.

The Sandisk cards are generally the best choice for 200LX use because
they're just as fast in the palmtop, and use considerably less power than
the Lexar cards because they allow the 200LX to go into light-sleep mode.

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:46:42 -0800
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              A Meshar 
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Fred,

> Well, color me uninterested and underwhelmed at the moment.  The metal
> shell interests me more than a dos computer with no built-in HP
> applications and less than vga-mono graphics ability.  I may change my
> mind but ...............

Seems to me it is not possible to expect realistically that
HP will provide the code of the built-in apps for this
project. Besides, burning a ROM for these might prove fatal
to the project. I'd rather see this micro-notebook class of
machines survive, than die.

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to:  support@dasoft.com
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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:46:29 -0800
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              A Meshar 
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David Sargeant observed:

> On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, F. Kaufman wrote:
>
> > Well, color me uninterested and underwhelmed at the moment.  The metal
> > shell interests me more than a dos computer with no built-in HP
> > applications and less than vga-mono graphics ability.  I may change my
> > mind but ...............
>
> It's not necessarily a DOS computer ... think of the advertising potential
> of "LINUX IN YOUR POCKET!"

Bingo! I completely agree.

I find the specs of the machine rather attractive, with one
exception which to me is really weird. I get that this is
not a HP in disguise, but an abstraction on the theme. I
like almost everything they specified, more or less.
Nothing is a turnoff to me except: CGA?

CGA makes good sense on the 80186 chip machine (200LX). But
the designers broke away in many important respects from
the 200LX as the guiding light, keeping valuable
attributes: size, keyboard etc.

Then there are the compromises - battery life vs. 486, and
I can live with that. But now that I have a powerful cpu
under the hood, I don't want to live with a CGA - that's
ludicrous.

Besides, it seems they have not heard how hard it is to
find CGA screen manufacturers, and so much easier to find
VGA screens.

Another curious point to me is that it seems to me that VGA
is much better capable of displaying the intricate kanji
fonts used in Japanese. So the choice of a less capable
display does puzzles me.

All in all: Bless their hearts for doing this project!

  Avi

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From: "JS" 
Subject: Thinking of Selling 200LX 1MB
Date: 08 Jan 2000 23:24:43 EST

I have a used, in good condition, 200LX ( and Serial Cable and intellisync
software) that I am thinking of selling.  It was basically used only as a
phone book and organizer....so I went to a Handspring Visor.

Make me an offer.

--
Joel
jsandler@concentric.net





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Jeff

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On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> Then there are the compromises - battery life vs. 486, and I can live
> with that. But now that I have a powerful cpu under the hood, I don't
> want to live with a CGA - that's ludicrous.

The reason is that the AMD "PC-in-a-chip" that is at the heart of most of
the 486 palmtop projects has a CGA controller built in.  Adding a VGA
capability would be fantastic, but it would add extra circuitry to the
motherboard, where real estate is at a premium.  I'm not sure how tricky
it would be to add a VGA controller to the Morphy One, but apparently it's
more trouble than the developers want to go to.  Probably the fact that
the Morphy One won't be color, and that a VGA screen that would fit in the
palmtop form factor would be pretty hard to read, have made them figure
that VGA is more trouble than it's worth.  I find that the main weak point
of the Morphy One (although the lack of a Trackpoint-style pointing device
comes in a close second, if people are going to see it as a viable laptop
replacement).  Ah, well.  Mack has said before that it will still be
possible to run Windows 95 and the like on the Morphy One even though such
programs usually require VGA; a developer should be able to create a
virtual-VGA driver that would allow the user to flip between the top and
bottom halves of the screen.  Annoying, but workable.  Myself, I'm
sticking to Linux and my trusty ol' command prompts.

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 23:56:41 -0600
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:05:15 -0800, David Sargeant  wrote:

> sticking to Linux and my trusty ol' command prompts.

Amen!

Jeff

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:22:14 -0800
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> Seems to me it is not possible to expect realistically that HP will
> provide the code of the built-in apps for this project. Besides,
> burning a ROM for these might prove fatal to the project. I'd rather
> see this micro-notebook class of machines survive, than die.

I wonder if it would be possible to copy the ROM code and run it on the
Morphy One.  That way, people who already owned a 200LX would be able to
run a legal copy of the software on their Morphy One.  I have a feeling
that the software is pretty specifically tailored for the 200LX, though,
so it might not run at all on the Morphy One.

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:21:22 -0800
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To All who inquird about my hp200lx. I can sell you parts that's about
all reason had an accdent fell off to of a box box 3'height table 2.5'
height. the rest of the story I am "contacting theaddeus computing"

                                 Bob1

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Date:         Sat, 8 Jan 2000 22:30:44 -0800
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Sven Cronenberg wrote:
>
> I wonder if there is any way to run the hp connecivity pack "app200" from dos under windows98 in a window on the desktop, in stead of the full screen mod ?
>
> Sven
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Steve! when you install the connectivity it prompt you if you want it
on the desk top as an icom. is this what you want to know. it does run
under dos win98.
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Date:         Sun, 9 Jan 2000 18:57:10 +1100
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Hello Bob

I know someone who may be interested in selling their 200LX.

No hinge crack, couple scratches, but not bad. Battery cover locking
plastic bit broken off, but cover still stays on without taping it on.

Connectivity kit. No Power adaptor. Conntetion pack (4 adaptors for the
connectivity cord.

What price would this sell for?  I have not been keeping up on the
prices.

The Unit is in Australia, and you would have to pay shipping.Payment
preferrably in Australian Dollars.


David Eggins.



11h19m31s ago ...
On Sat,  8 Jan 2000 13:14:26 -0700 (CST), Bob Christopher  =
wrote:

> I've been trying to buy a used 100lx or 200lx for quite awhile now with =
no
> luck.
> Even on Ebay I'm constantly outbid by Prolink1. Thaddeus is sold out of =
all
> used
> units. Does anyone on the list have a used unit for sale?
>
>   Bob
>
> Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
> email mailto:bc@chisp.net          website http://chisp.net/~bc
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At 01:14 2000-01-09 +0100, Sven Cronenberg wrote:
>I wonder if there is any way to run the hp connecivity pack "app200" from
dos under windows98 in a window on the desktop, in stead of the full screen
mod ?
>
>
>Sven
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I you want to run a fullscreen DOS program in a small window under Windows
9x, just press alt+enter while running the program.

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Date:         Sun, 9 Jan 2000 00:23:13 -0800
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              Fryday 
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Let me know if David's machine doesn't work out.

Philippe

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Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 12:11 PM
Subject: About To Give Up


> I've been trying to buy a used 100lx or 200lx for quite awhile now with no
> luck.
> Even on Ebay I'm constantly outbid by Prolink1. Thaddeus is sold out of
all
> used
> units. Does anyone on the list have a used unit for sale?
>
>   Bob
>
> Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
> email mailto:bc@chisp.net          website http://chisp.net/~bc
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              Fryday 
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I've had the same Appt DB for the past five years (starting with a 100LX,
then moved on to a 200LX 2 years ago), extracting last year's appts at the
begining of every new year. So far, DBCheck gave me about 7-8 errors that
look like 4-5 pieces of a chain of appts with 1-2 appts in each. I've never
ever had any problems in Appt. So there's hope.

Philippe

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2000 3:51 PM
Subject: My appt.adb have errors..how do people check/back up?


> I have some (small?) errors in my appointmentbook. I want to correct
> these errors. I have tried the tip that David is putting in the Faq,
> but I do not have Cpack.
>
> The Garlic file had even more errors. Could somebody fix my
> appointmentbook for me? I can still use my appt.adb, but I do not want
> the errors there. I am worried the errors will grow in number over
> time.
>
> I would also know how people check their
> databases/notebooks/appointments before they do a backup. I use
> lxbackup/pkzip to back up from c->a
>
> I have read something about this on the list some time ago.
>
> I run nightly backups and I would like not to do backup if dbcheck
> returns errors.. I would also like to have a log so that I know that
> there are errors and a backup have not been successfull.
>
> The output of dbcheck v.1.61 is below. The earlier versions did not
> report any errors.
>
> TIA
>
> --
> Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway
> -Palmtop friendly sig...
>
>
> Here is what dbcheck found:
>
> MBAPPT.ADB:
> File type: Appointment
> .
> Error - data record 17 not found in date link list
> ....................
> 1 db header, 0 card def
> 0 categories, 27 fields defined
> 0 view point defs, 1 view point tables
> 2 smart clips, 1 lookup tables
> 606 data records, 48 with notes
> Found records:     691     Garbage records:   0
> Expected records:  690     Deleted records:   0
> Error: links in record(s) point to other non-existent records.
> Error: Data record 9 was linked incorrectly.
> Error: Data record 17 was linked incorrectly.
> Error: Data record 229 was linked incorrectly.
> Error: Data record 230 was linked incorrectly.
> Error: Data record 462 was linked incorrectly.
> Error: Data record 470 was linked incorrectly.
> Error: Data record 471 was linked incorrectly.
> MBAPPT.ADB had errors.
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>>200LX ( and Serial Cable and intellisync
>>software) that I am thinking of selling.  It was basically used only as a
>>phone book and organizer....so I went to a Handspring Visor.

¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬

Gasp!..........how are you finding life without a keyboard?

Regards.....Liam
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Date:         Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:20:20 -0800
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              A Meshar 
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> I wonder if it would be possible to copy the ROM code and run it on the
> Morphy One.  That way, people who already owned a 200LX would be able to
> run a legal copy of the software on their Morphy One.  I have a feeling
> that the software is pretty specifically tailored for the 200LX, though,
> so it might not run at all on the Morphy One.

Not so. you have a legal license to use the code on the ROM
in THAT ROM, but not in a ROM/RAM of your choice. In order
to obtain the code you'd have to somehow open that little
"black box" and that act in itself infringes on HP's
intellectual property rights. Whether they will pursue this
is or not I do not know - but I think it is unethical to
even tempt them.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:20:17 -0800
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              A Meshar 
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David,

I think you fell off your sentence :-)

"I find that the main weak point of the Morphy One
(although the lack of a Trackpoint-style pointing device
comes in a close second, if people are going to see it as a
viable laptop replacement)."

You never actually said what the main weak point was. I am
sitting at the edge of my chair! :-)

  Avi

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Software response, please write to:  support@dasoft.com
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Date:         Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:51:27 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> "I find that the main weak point of the Morphy One (although the lack
> of a Trackpoint-style pointing device comes in a close second, if
> people are going to see it as a viable laptop replacement)." You never
> actually said what the main weak point was. I am sitting at the edge
> of my chair! :-)

Heh heh... I didn't mean "I find that the main weak point of the Morphy
One is..."  I meant it as "I find THAT (referring to the lousy CGA screen
discussed in the previous sentence) the main weak point of the Morphy
One."  Talk about a poor choice of sentence structure... I will
ritualistically flog myself before going to bed tonight to make it up to
all readers, especially for the international palmtop users who do not
speak English as their first language and who are now hopelessly confused
and irritated by the above sentence.  

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Date:         Sun, 9 Jan 2000 03:55:48 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> Not so. you have a legal license to use the code on the ROM in THAT
> ROM, but not in a ROM/RAM of your choice. In order to obtain the code
> you'd have to somehow open that little "black box" and that act in
> itself infringes on HP's intellectual property rights. Whether they
> will pursue this is or not I do not know - but I think it is unethical
> to even tempt them.

Does this mean that all the emulators which require dumps from the ROMs of
other devices, such as the HP48 calculator emulators, are doing it
illegally?  I thought as long as you own the device you can use the ROM
code for emulators and the like, as long as you continue to own the
machine, don't give it to anybody, and don't actually decompile the
code but use it as-is.

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              Bob Christopher 
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My thanks to everyone on the list who responded with offers. I think I
have struck a deal with a listmember.

  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
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              Arvidas Bajercius 
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Greetings & Happy New Year,

I just used the mileage tracker spreadsheet for the first time this year =
and
my date came up all *********'s instead of 01/09/00.  I don't recall any
mention of this problem on the list. Would appreciate any assistance in
correcting the date entry.

TIA Not a Lotus Wizard,

Harv

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David Sargeant wrote:

, especially for the international palmtop users who do not
> speak English as their first language and who are now hopelessly =
confused
> and irritated by the above sentence.  


Actually,I have only read these Murphy one emails with one eye,I first =
thought it was some kind of software,but is it an upgrade of the LX to =
486 or what is it all about?

If someone would have the time and effort to explain.


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-----Original Message-----
I just used the mileage tracker spreadsheet for the first time this year and
my date came up all *********'s instead of 01/09/00.
--------------------------

Try this,

Be in the column that has the ****... in it and type:

/ Worksheet Column Set-Width, then use the right arrow to make the column
wider. This sould solve the problem.

You date is most likely too wide for the column as it is.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
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On 29 Dec 1999, Russel Brooks  wrote:

> My next computer was a KIM1; anyone remember them?  It was a demo board
> sold by MOS to demonstrate their new 6502 cpu chip.

I do remember the KIM1.

My first computer was an Altair 8800, with BASIC of audio tape
and 8K of RAM. The bootstrap loader had to be entered by hand
using the switches and lights on the front panel. The
computer was eventually upgraded to CP/M with two 8" disk
drives and 64K of RAM. I still have the machine in my basement
and it still runs.

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On 30 Dec 1999, Franklin Eekhout  wrote:

> I knew something was wrong, but I just couldn't remember... Our's here in
> Norway were badged as Televerket/TRS-80. Imagine my surprise when searching
> for my TRS-80 on the 'net 3-4 years ago and found a desk computer. Took some
> digging to find the M100 as pictures were few between and the letters M100
> were not found on the computer or in the docs, ...

I do not think Radio Shack or Tandy ever used "M100" to
identify this machine. It was the "Model 100", and later there
was a Model 102 (same basic design but thinner) and also a
Model 200 (different design) I think.

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              Mike Wagstaff 
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> Actually,I have only read these Murphy one emails with one eye,I first thought it was some kind of software,but is it an upgrade of the LX to 486 or what is it all about?
> If someone would have the time and effort to explain.

In a nutshell, it's a new machine rather than an upgrade,
with similar dimensions to the LX. Currently under
development in Japan, the Morphy One will use an AMD 486
chip, has 32 MB of EDO RAM and uses CF for storage.

I forget the link to the official English press release, but
you can find it (along the specs and other links) at
http://games.hplx.net/morphyone.htm

Hope this helps,

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              Charles Stroom 
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From:         Charles Stroom 
Subject:      Genealogy program for 200lx
In-Reply-To:  Your message of Sun, 09 Jan 2000 00:00:00 EST.
              <947394095.1128002.0@listserv-mail.surfnet.nl>

No one has yet mentioned GIM.

Since long I am happily running gim, now v3.20: it is full featured
(but I am just a simple user).  It has GED import/export, runs only
on DOS (I have it on my hp200lx and on W'95 on vmware/linux),
although a windows version seems to be in progress, and, the best,
it is supported.  The last update was from Nov '99.  It's shareware.

Check http://www.gimsoft.com

Charles Stroom

email: charles@stroom-schreurs.demon.nl
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              Barry Marks 
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>Seriously, CAD/CAM only really makes sense for high-volume production or
>for things that require microfine tolerances.  A snazzy new case for an
>out-of-production 8086 computer fits neither of these conditions.  So who
>on the list is a practiced machinist?  I myself, while a lover of old
>machines and occasional fixer-up of fine English motorbikes, sadly do not
>yet have a home machine shop.

A few decades ago I was trained as a machinist and began a tool and die
maker's apprenticeship.  Life took me in a different direction.  But I
remember enough to realize that a machinist would only be involved in the
final steps of something like the case of the 200lx.  The first step would
be to either cast or press or extrude metal into the appropriate shape.
Then a machinist could handle the mating and finished surfaces and any
threads that might be needed.

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> HP intellectual property rights. Whether they will pursue this
> is or not I do not know - but I think it is unethical to
> even tempt them.

And I think it is unethical for MS to create and exploit a monopoly that
requires everyone to march to a Win-ce drummer (and on the HP620 with a
poor sound system to boot! (G))

And if HP prevailed, what are the damages?  Which Win-ce unit would I
have purchased that represents their damages?  Punitive - a jury would
have to decide that and I tend to doubt it would be more than that
nomimal One Dollar.

Is it any different than copying a record or cd for personal use?  For
backup when the HP hinge breaks?  Don't I have a right to keep using a
rom which is serviceable while the case has crumbled?

I'll let the "angels on the head of the pin" types further pursue this
question!!!!! (G)

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              Arvidas Bajercius 
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Thank You All,

I didn't realize that Lotus 123 went to a 4 digit year.

Regards,

Harv =


Systems-Consulting  wrote:
-----Original Message-----
I just used the mileage tracker spreadsheet for the first time this year =
and
my date came up all *********'s instead of 01/09/00.
--------------------------

Try this,

Be in the column that has the ****... in it and type:

/ Worksheet Column Set-Width, then use the right arrow to make the column=

wider. This sould solve the problem.

You date is most likely too wide for the column as it is.



Thanks,

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              Jeff Malka 
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It works unregistered for as long as you want it.  The 40 days is only a
suggestion.

Jeff Malka 
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Subject: Re: Genealogy program for 200lx


>    >Family Scrapbook is available on the Palmtop Super Site.  Or rather,
>    >it links to an offline file which you can download.  It is
>    >extremely powerful and complete--and runs well on the 200LX as well.
> Message-Id: <20000108131449.PBNB8291@Ý12.72.231.122¨>
> Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 13:14:49 +0000
>
> The SUPER link points to a version 2.02 that's unregistered and warns
about
> a 40-day trial period.  And yet there's all this talk about not being able
> to contact the author in order to register.
>
> I guess I missed the earlier part of this thread, but does this mean the
40
> day threat passes without disabling the software, and does it also mean
FSB
> users have to live with the nag screen?  Thanks.
>
> - Longden
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Date:         Sun, 9 Jan 2000 09:47:51 -0800
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Re: my suggestion that we get a guy with a lathe to machine up some ally
cases for our beloved computers, Rick writes:

>I'm not saying it can't be done, and you may even find someone willing to
>bang out a couple just for something to do on winter evenings, but you
>won't
>do it commercially for a reasonable price without some serious volume.
>
>rick

My point exactly!  How serious could the volume be, really, for an old
computer?  We dearly love our LXs, no doubt, but they're kind of
yesterday's news.  We're a niche market of the nichest kind.  It's group
enthusiasm, and specifically the very welcome (but not very lucrative, I
would imagine) efforts of a few dedicated programmers and retailers that
keeps the DOS LX train rolling.  It's thanks to these crusaders-- and I
won't name names so that I don't offend by accidental omission-- that I'm
able to do so much for so few $$ on such a small little device.  Hats off!

So what I'm saying is, unless this project is someone's "baby" it will
probably never see the light of day, since (and this is just my opinion
here, and I've been wrong before) it doesn't look like a commercial
venture.

But the day I get around to buying that lathe/mill....


Ain Vale
Portland, Oregon

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> Adding a VGA
> capability would be fantastic, but it would add extra circuitry to the
> motherboard, where real estate is at a premium.  I'm not sure how tricky
> it would be to add a VGA controller to the Morphy One, but apparently it's
> more trouble than the developers want to go to.  Probably the fact that
> the Morphy One won't be color, and that a VGA screen that would fit in the
> palmtop form factor would be pretty hard to read, have made them figure
> that VGA is more trouble than it's worth.

I would lean towards monochrome VGA, if it were doable.  Seems like that
would be a good compromise from the users perspective, although I haven't
thought through the hardware problems.

-Chris



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              John J Vanderstel 
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Subject:      Problem with 32 meg RAM drive on double speed HP200LX

Hi All,

Today I did a simple directory listing in DOS on my HP200LX and found a
garbage listing. I've gone as far as using the hard reset (ctrl-on-up
arrow) and answered no, but I continue to get the following upon boot up:

Error: Drive Check Failed

Initialize T2T Drive (Y/N)? (before this incident, the screen was garbled
at this point)

Upon answering "n", I get:

Error: No Drives Swapped!

It then lists the current date as 01/09/2000 and asks for entry of a new
date.

Upon hitting enter twice, I get the C: prompt on the original 4 meg C:
drive. Indeed, the original F: drive (RAM drive) is not recognized as a
valid drive.

Must I actually answer "y" upon a hard reset and wipe out approximately
30 megs of files in the RAM drive to see if the RAM drive can be
recognized again, or are there a less drastic measures that I could take
yet?

I do have a full backup of all my HP200LX drives on optical disk, but
manually dealing with about 30 different floppy disks full of files would
not be preferable if there were an easier way to fix this problem.

Note:  The date on the invoice for my 32 meg double speed HP200LX and the
2 year extended warranty is 03/18/99, so ultimately, my HP200LX is still
covered under warranty with Thaddeus Computing.  I just don't want to
give up posession of my HP200LX for any period of time unless it's
absolutely necessary.

Any ideas?

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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al chin ,
              Mike Wagstaff 
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> I would lean towards monochrome VGA, if it were doable.  Seems like that
> would be a good compromise from the users perspective, although I haven't
> thought through the hardware problems.

Colour versus monochrome isn't really the issue,
unfortunately. The problem is that VGA resolution is 640x480
pixels. The CGA screen resolution of the 100/200 LX is (I'm
fairly certain) 640x200.

In other words, you would need a screen roughly double in
height to the one on the palmtop (generous, I know!).
Perhaps, allowing for advances in technology, this figure
could be reduced a little - but not by too much, because of
the limitations of the human eye...

The smallest machine I can think of to handle VGA is the IBM
PC 110 - anyone know the dimensions of its screen? From my
vague recollection, I think it's roughly double that of our
LX's.

Potential solutions do exist. There are already glasses
which can project a huge "virtual" image. Another possibility
would be the use of an ultra-thin screen which could fold
outwards. But these are ideas for the Morphy Two, methinks! :-)

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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo 
Subject:      Re: metal shell

   >old computer?  We dearly love our LXs, no doubt, but they're kind of
   >yesterday's news.  We're a niche market of the nichest kind.
Message-Id: <20000110004845.XPXM1891@Ý12.72.154.198¨>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:48:45 +0000

Don't forget that a lot of us are cheapskates too.

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Date:         Sun, 9 Jan 2000 20:41:58 -0600
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette 
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Hello All,

Does anyone know of some Japanese-English translation software that works
on the palmtop?

Cheers,
 Mack                            mailto:mack@times2tech.com

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Date:         Sun, 9 Jan 2000 21:44:29 -0500
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> I have some (small?) errors in my appointmentbook. I want to correct
> these errors. I have tried the tip that David is putting in the Faq,
> but I do not have Cpack.

Here is one thing to try.  Make a copy of your current file that has =
errors.
Make a new, empty adb file by doing Menu File New in Appointmentbook.  =
Now with
the empty file open, do Menu File Merge and select the copy of you
appointmentbook.  Merging your data into a new, error-free, file will =
often
clear things up.  Now try dbcheck on the new file and see if it is OK.

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> I just used the mileage tracker spreadsheet for the first
>  time this year and
> my date came up all *********'s instead of 01/09/00.

Lotus insists on printing a 4 digit year for 2000 and beyond.  You column =
is
probably not wide enough for the wider date.  Adjust the width of that =
column
by adding a few spaces and see if that fixes it.  Menu Worksheet Column
Set-width (I think)

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On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:22:02 -0600 (CST) "James P. Grenert"
 writes:
> This is a reply to an OLD post.  However, I don't think the question
> was answered.

It was not.

> On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, D Dv wrote:
> > 2-ccmail seems a little slow in dialing.
> This is simply a function of the setting that your modem uses.  I
speed
> things up by editing the *.MDM file in C:\_DAT (* represents  whatever
the
> name of the file you use is called; all of these cc:Mail modem files
> end in .MDM).

How did you learn this information?  Is there more that can be done to
tweak
the file?  I found hayes.mdm on D:, nothing on C:

> There is a line "SETUP=" which has the modem init string.
I found two lines like that.  Which one do I use?  I supose you meant
to change the one which ends in S10=50

>  Add "S11=50" to the end of that (no quotation marks), and dialing will

> be considerably faster.

What does that do?

> > 3-The 9600bps limit seems slow for the limit imposed on the time.
> I use a 33.6K modem and connect at 19.2K.  What is "the limit
> imposed on the time?"

The Freeway time you earn by listening to commercials to earn
long distance minutes.   The report is that if you select speeds
faster than 9600 on ccmail, using palmtop.com, reliable transmition
is affected.

>  Normal emails, even large ones, transfer quite quickly
> even at 9600.  I suppose larger ones like the HPLX digest may be
slower, but
> that would be slow regardless of what email setup you used.

Because of having to earn the minutes, and because of the 2 hours per
month
limit on Freeway, speed is essential.

> I have to say, however, that I don't subscribe to palmtop.com
> because I need it so rarely (don't use my LX much for email).  When I
have
> used it, it has worked well.

This makes me wonder if you are really familiar with the corruption
issues mentioned above.

Thanks for your answer, the only one that ever came on this issue.

Domingo

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From:KAZU(K.TANABE)
Hi all!

Ed Keefe wrote.
>Doesn't the CPack require an EGA display? If it could use a CGA  display,
>then it should run on the 1000CX.
The Cpack runs at CGA, too.
You must remove CGA emulator?(CG.com) from the APP200.bat.
My 1000CX works well with the Cpack and can display Japanese character.
Off course, it can connect to other PC using the Cpack.(Cpack to Cpack)
Bye.

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I started playing with this on my HP and was delighted to
discover that on European LXs with a ¬ symbol above the Y key,
you can press Y without shift or fn to do a power calculation
in calc. Hey, saves a keystroke - more time for beer.

Chris R.

On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Ed Keefe wrote:

> Carlos A Rodrigues Alves  asked how to
> perform exponentiation in HP Calc.
>
> example: 8 Enter 4 ¬ (shift blue key, Quicken on my 200LX)
> 4096 ..
> Is this what you're looking for? That's the RPN approach.
> .ed.
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I asked this question about 6 months ago, but got no reply. My
curiosity is still piqued, so I'm asking again:

Is there a "layer of indirection" between the DOS cluster on a
PCMCIA or CF card and the physical location on the chip used
to store the info?

Reason I ask is that if there isn't and you frequently defrag
said card, forcing all your data into the "top" clusters of
the card, are you in some way defeating any automatic wear
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              Ed Keefe 
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Sven Cronenberg sven.cronenberg@RUHR-UNI-BOCHUM.DE> asked "if there is any
way to run the hp connecivity pack "app200" from dos under windows98 "

No. Win98 demands full screen mode for App200. I'm not sure why: maybe it is
because of the way that App200 uses the display screen.

.ed.

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I have Quicken 2000 on my desktop PC running under Windows 98.
I enter ALL transaction into my HP200LX using Pocket Quicken and
periodically transfer them to
the desktop. To do this I Export them as a QIF file which I then
Import them into the appropriate account in Quicken 200. This
procedure has worked smoothly for years with various versions of
Quicken including Quicken 2000.

Today I tried to Import part of December and January
transactions. Pocket Quicken recognized the year 2000 and
Exported the correct transaction. However Quicken 2000 treated
the date 01/01/00 in the QIF record as 01/01/1900.

How do I correct this?

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              al chin 
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> Doesn't the CPack require an EGA display?
 If it could use a CGA  display,
> then it should run on the 1000CX.

Yor probably right.  Most of my tries were on
kolor monitors, like desktop PCs (PC110)
which is always CGA or betta.  as for the 1000
they have the CGA drv utils that that do it no?
never had a 1000

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> pack ...
>
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              Daniel Hertrich 
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Hi Paul,

> How do I keep my 200LX on without autoshutoff?

Use Stefan Peichl's 'LXPRO' It allows you to set the time of the sleep
timer from 1min to 30 min (and off at all) manually. It's a TSR, so you
can pop it up whenever you need it.
It lets you change various ather palmtop-specific settings, too.

http://peichl.hplx.net

GTX
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John J Vanderstel wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> >The IBM 110 (Ultraman)  which is about one form factor larger than a
> 200lx
> >has a 33 MHz 486 processor (this is a ball park figure). I assume that
> you
> >could find one relatively cheaply these days in Tokyo. However, given
> your
> >speed requirements, a older model Toshiba Libretto with a 50+ MHz may be
> a
> >better choice. Also makes a good support device for you HP200lx.
>
> Thanks for that suggestion, Robert.
>
> I've looked for an old 50mhz Libretto for quite a while, but they seem to
> be very hard to find.  That would work if I could find one and it's
> offered at a reasonable price.  The IBM 110 sounds interesting, but since
> it's so old and the battery is not replaceable, I don't see it as a
> realistic portable option.

What!?!  That's NEWS to ME!  A PC110's batteries are replaceable by the
original IBM 1200mAh, or by 1500mAh, Sony NP-F550 Li-Ion Camcorder
batteries, while the machine's running an application;  You close the
top lid, it suspends;  you open the little door on the right, swap
batteries, close and latch the door, open the case again and continue
using the machine.  It complains when it's time to swap batteries...
External power off another battery pack is easy enough to do, also; you
could run all day without running the internal battery down.  And the
Li-Ion batteries are pretty light, compared to other battery tech.  (Can
run off an external Lead-Acid pack for a long time, but that's heavier
to carry!)

> I was hoping that someone could either suggest other portable machine
> alternatives or that someone might have some update info on the Japanese
> 386 project.  The DOS program I would like to run takes several minutes
> to process it's data between screens on my double speed 32mb HP200LX.
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>
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Hi al!

al chin wrote.
>Yor probably right.  Most of my tries were on
>kolor monitors, like desktop PCs (PC110)
>which is always CGA or betta.  as for the 1000
>they have the CGA drv utils that that do it no?
>never had a 1000
The Cpack works on 1000CX!
Please read my post about 7 hours before.
I think Cpack was made for CGA, basically.
And using CGA emulator for VGA(CG.COM?), it works on VGA.

Bye.
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 Kyoto, Japan.
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Nan-shan Chen wrote:
>
> > I've concluded prolink1@gate.net is either:
> >
> > 1) An industry cartel that buys them up and recycles them into WinCE machines
> > (ala sci-fi's "Soylent Green").
> > 2) An alien race trying to eliminate mankind's only hope against invasion
> > 3) People from the future trying furtively to remove all vestiges of a device
> > inadvertantly left behind and which is destined to alter history if it remains
> > in our hands.
> > 4) Bill Gates, who can be any of the above.
> >
> >
> > - Longden
>
> :) :)
>
> And I'm sitting here in Germany, writing to almost everyone who offers
> a palmtop without any sucess. I'm always either too slow or too far away
> although I've prepared a couple of Dollar Bills ready to be sent to
> anyone in the world.
>
> Help me! p-l-e-a-s-e ! Because the palmtop is the very main computing
> device of mine.  It is the
>
>         FIRST REAL GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTER I EVER OWNED.
>
> :)
>
> Rudi

Easy enough to get money from Germany to the US (Travelers' Express lets
it be sent without a fee to the receiver, for example.)  Or mail an
International Postal MO.

Helping folks on things like this is where I chose my sig line 

What're you after?  Perhaps I can help.  (Direct e-mail that's not cc'ed
to the list will get my attention faster, btw, I file this list in a
folder & then read it when I get to it.)  If you get it and have the
seller ship it to me, I can then ship it to you.

  Mark

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Rundel Datentechnik wrote:
> Nathalie wrote:
>
>  > i sent my 200lx on Nov.18 priority mail to Thaddeus for 2x speed upgrade,
>  > and Jon wrote that it has not arrived and that i should get worried it may
>  > be lost (to some greedy postal worker)
>
> Sorry to hear that. Next time you may want to send it to us instead, we're
> located in Germany and do all memory and speed upgrades as well. Actually,
> we are the only authorized Times2Tech dealer in Europe and Asia. Sending
> stuff within the EC is no problem at all and reasonably fast.
>
> Tom
> Rundel Datentechnik, Germany
> www.rundel.net/palmtop

Insurance is a good idea, for useful, stealable things like a 200LX;
Methinks it'd be a customs agent, as they'd be most likely to know
what's in the box, when opening it for inspection.

  Mark

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Sidney Ho wrote:
> Re: Metal Body Shell for HP100/200LX & Other Things
>
> There seems to be enough enthusiasm on the list to do a metal shell and to
> share costs.
>
> I have a more radical idea. Everyone sitting down?
>
> How about if a die hard group of us approached HP to license or buy out the
> tooling, drawings, manufacturing rights to the HPLX including the software
> bundles. Then some more development?
>
> I suppose we would have to mess with Microsoft on the DOS license or we
> could use DR-DOS (I think Novell bought Digital Research some years back).
> Memory capacity has improved a lot so ROM/RAM could be upgraded from the
> beginning. Without stepping outside of the form factor LxW, possibly we
> could consider supporting Type III PC cards as well, allowing for a lot more
> options. (A 520mb PC HD costs a fraction of the flash card and could be
> usable when plugged in or for quick battery backups/file swaps). We are
> already talking increased thickness on metal jackets but a max 4mm increase
> in thickness (in the bottom part of the case) is easy. A 5mm L x 3mm W would
> allow a ruggedized execution and easy fitting of a large screen but would
> require extra molds to be made. That size increase would be the limit of a
> palm form factor. A more rounded back could allow 2 more batteries to
> support greater power consumption (if needed).
>
> Personally I'd like to see DOS 6.22 or any version that allowed us to
> overcome the 640kb ram limitation. The programmers could look at ways to
> improve the bundles. A larger screen could be used, backlighting
> incorporated (possibly integrated with the ongoing project). There is no
> better group than the HPLX list to be critical and brainstorm how to improve
> the software, update the functions and hardware.
>
> I do Arch/Eng/Planning but our main work is in industrial projects. We've
> installed a lot of manufacturing in the Far East (mainly PRC); we know
> molding and plastic engineering compounds and I can link to board
> manufacturers. We have offices in China, Switzerland and Italy. I'm
> regularly in the USA (usually SoCal).
>
> If others can do knowledgeable leg work I'd consider joining an investment
> pool to back such a project. Honestly, I don't think it should cost too much
> to acquire the tooling and rights from HP. I also can discuss the contract
> issues of licensing with HP but am not in a position to do it from here
> (Switzerland) without someone else chasing down the responsible/empowered HP
> people to talk to.
>
> Anyway, just some half-serious thoughts ready to get serious under the right
> circumstances...if enough hardware/software guys get involved for the love
> of the LX, who knows?
>
> Maybe a Linux port??? Maybe 256mb ram???
>
> ---
> Sidney Ho
> SKYHO@csi.com

FreeDos is completely FREE, full source available, why deal with any non
fully GPL OS if you can avoid it?  Linux could be set up to boot and pop
up a Dos prompt, for those used to Dos.

I'd lean towards just a huge chunk of RAM, myself.  On my PC110's, a
PCMCIA Type III hard drive eats a LOT of power, i.e. a 1500 mAh 7.2V
(nominal) Sony NP-F550 camcorder battery will run a PCMCIA HDD for about
3 hours or so, tops.  (1.5 hours or so with the PC110 and PCMCIA HDD
running together, 3 hours for the PC110 using a 175Mb Sundisk Flash
Card, is where I guess this number.)  1500mAh x 7.2V - that's 10.8W of
power.  3.5 Watts per hour devours batteries - and an NP-F550 is taller
than the bottom shell of a 200LX!  I suspect your nice new NiMH 1400mAh
batteries would run a PCMCIA HDD for 10 miuntes at the most - they're
not designed for that high of a current draw.  You'd have to use at
least an additional 10-pack of AA's, in series, feeding 12V to the
external power port - then you'd get a whopping 2-3 hours or so before
having to shut down or recharge.

Myself, I find it easier to suspend the PC110 most of the time, and use
the 200LX separately.  Let's PLEASE keep this a low power usage machine
that'll run a whole day on a charge, then at least you could own 2
battery sets and just swap 'em daily - that would be fine with me, 1.5
hours isn't 

A huge part of the reason I like the 200LX in addition to my PC110's, is
battery life - I can run the 200LX all day, I cannot do that for the
PC110 without a huge heavy external battery.  I really don't think
anyone wants to carry a 15-pound, 17,000mAh Lead-Acid Gel Cell pack, for
a day's worth of power!  (Or pay massive dollars for an equivalent
amount of Sone NP-F950's and carry a bunch of them;  Lighter, but still,
that power cord gets OLD...)

256Mb of RAM, and perhaps a big chunk of Flash RAM as well (even though
say 175Mb Flash RAM cards are PRICEY!) sounds far better than PCMCIA to
me, that and if you must, have a bigger power supply so if someone "has"
to they could run a PCMCIA type II to type III disk extender (I have 3
of those), that'd work but it's a little hard to carry.  And you'd have
to use that off external power, not internal batteries...

  Mark

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If all goes well, I'll have access to a huge furnace (10 ton melts) in a
few months - that'd make a few cases   Lost-Wax would do for this, if
we can then machine the result - I can get a mold made, come to think of
it, for the wax positive masters.

Probably better to do this in stamped metal with a cover, though;

The case on the PC110 is a metal pressing, think about a "sub-frame"
that is precision stamped, which the motherboard and all other parts
mount to, that a thin sheet metal cover plate then screws down over.
That's the way the PC110's built;  I can take one apart and take
pictures if anyone wants to see "PC110 innards"   (Or see Vaughan
Pratts web site for some pictures of a PC110, apart and swinging in the
breeze.)  Stamping is CHEAP, any good metal place should be able to make
a case that'd work for reasonable numbers that way - Not bullet proof,
but serviceable.

  Mark

Dale Gillilan wrote:
>
> What about making an aluminum sand-casting yourself.  It's done all the
> time for machinery parts where accuracy is essential as well.
>
> Dale
>
> >I suppose you could cast the aluminum frame, but then you're looking at
>
> >significant tooling dollars up front (in the tens of thousands range).
> >
> >rick
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> Are you saying you're trying to buy one?

Yes, yes, yes. Any offer? :)

>
> Philippe
>
> > And I'm sitting here in Germany, writing to almost everyone who offers
> > a palmtop without any sucess. I'm always either too slow or too far away
> > although I've prepared a couple of Dollar Bills ready to be sent to
> > anyone in the world.
> >
> > Help me! p-l-e-a-s-e ! Because the palmtop is the very main computing
> > device of mine.  It is the
> >
> >         FIRST REAL GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTER I EVER OWNED.
> >
> > :)

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A Meshar wrote:
> David Sargeant observed:
> > On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, F. Kaufman wrote:
> >
> > > Well, color me uninterested and underwhelmed at the moment.  The metal
> > > shell interests me more than a dos computer with no built-in HP
> > > applications and less than vga-mono graphics ability.  I may change my
> > > mind but ...............
> >
> > It's not necessarily a DOS computer ... think of the advertising potential
> > of "LINUX IN YOUR POCKET!"
>
> Bingo! I completely agree.
>
> I find the specs of the machine rather attractive, with one
> exception which to me is really weird. I get that this is
> not a HP in disguise, but an abstraction on the theme. I
> like almost everything they specified, more or less.
> Nothing is a turnoff to me except: CGA?
>
> CGA makes good sense on the 80186 chip machine (200LX). But
> the designers broke away in many important respects from
> the 200LX as the guiding light, keeping valuable
> attributes: size, keyboard etc.
>
> Then there are the compromises - battery life vs. 486, and
> I can live with that. But now that I have a powerful cpu
> under the hood, I don't want to live with a CGA - that's
> ludicrous.
>
> Besides, it seems they have not heard how hard it is to
> find CGA screen manufacturers, and so much easier to find
> VGA screens.
>
> Another curious point to me is that it seems to me that VGA
> is much better capable of displaying the intricate kanji
> fonts used in Japanese. So the choice of a less capable
> display does puzzles me.
>
> All in all: Bless their hearts for doing this project!
>
>   Avi

Seems to me that if we got together and re-worked their machine to run a
VGA display and then produced kits for that here in the US, that could
be really fun!  Just so long as the backlight can be switched completely
off when desired (My finnick with the usual laptop )

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David Sargeant wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:
> > Then there are the compromises - battery life vs. 486, and I can live
> > with that. But now that I have a powerful cpu under the hood, I don't
> > want to live with a CGA - that's ludicrous.
>
> The reason is that the AMD "PC-in-a-chip" that is at the heart of most of
> the 486 palmtop projects has a CGA controller built in.  Adding a VGA
> capability would be fantastic, but it would add extra circuitry to the
> motherboard, where real estate is at a premium.  I'm not sure how tricky
> it would be to add a VGA controller to the Morphy One, but apparently it's
> more trouble than the developers want to go to.  Probably the fact that
> the Morphy One won't be color, and that a VGA screen that would fit in the
> palmtop form factor would be pretty hard to read, have made them figure

An 80x25 VGA screen display is IME no harder to read than an 80x25 CGA
screen display.  I use both (PC110 or 200LX) regularly, the finer pixels
on the PC110 make it's display pretty easy to read - I can read in 80x50
line mode, though THAT is admittedly not so easy to read!  (That, I use
RARELY.  Unless on the port replicator hooked to an old NEC Multisync
XL, 20" monitor here )  I have a worse problem with using QEdit
that's set for color displays (I wish the 200LX had a color CGA screen
some days )  My green/yellow on black text settings in QEdit don't
work well on the 200LX's screen, at all.  Nice on the PC110 though.

Methinks speed's over-rated, and battery life under-rated, to some
extent (not that I won't 2x speed my 200LX )

  Mark

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Mike Wagstaff wrote:
>
> > I would lean towards monochrome VGA, if it were doable.  Seems like that
> > would be a good compromise from the users perspective, although I haven't
> > thought through the hardware problems.
>
> Colour versus monochrome isn't really the issue,
> unfortunately. The problem is that VGA resolution is 640x480
> pixels. The CGA screen resolution of the 100/200 LX is (I'm
> fairly certain) 640x200.

"Quad VGA", QVGA (320 x 240 pixels) is fairly usable, if we can find a
display that does that.  The M1 HUD uses that.

> In other words, you would need a screen roughly double in
> height to the one on the palmtop (generous, I know!).
> Perhaps, allowing for advances in technology, this figure
> could be reduced a little - but not by too much, because of
> the limitations of the human eye...



> The smallest machine I can think of to handle VGA is the IBM
> PC 110 - anyone know the dimensions of its screen? From my
> vague recollection, I think it's roughly double that of our
> LX's.

PC110 display: 3.9" wide by 2.9" tall
HP200 display: 4.9" wide by 1.9" tall

> Potential solutions do exist. There are already glasses
> which can project a huge "virtual" image. Another possibility
> would be the use of an ultra-thin screen which could fold
> outwards. But these are ideas for the Morphy Two, methinks! :-)

Microvision's glasses are coming out somewhat soon - Full VGA color
inside a pair of glasses.  Thad Starner seems to like his.  wearcam.org
etc. for links to wearable computers web pages.  Those folks like
heads-up displays, a lot.

>  -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

  Mark

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Hi,

> Seems to me that if we got together and re-worked their machine to run a
> VGA display and then produced kits for that here in the US, that could
> be really fun!  Just so long as the backlight can be switched completely
> off when desired (My finnick with the usual laptop )

Morphy One main designer said they are looking for a best way to provide
the all design data as free, then you can modify its design by your self.

Keep it touch in your mind.
CAO,
akinobu fukuzaki

>
>   Mark
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Date:         Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:03:00 +0000
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Hi Al,
today I tried to download the Dez 1999-HPLX-Archive-Log an got the
following error-message:

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Error 404

The file was not found, even after searching on any extensions
to the file name. The file does not exist or is read-protected.


Lotus Domino Go Webserver - North American Edition 4.6.2.6
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This works the same on U.S. LXs -- if you're running Buddy.  And the "p" key
is mapped to give "%".  Plus the "s", "d", and "r" keys clear the stack,
data, and registers respectively.

>From: Chris Randle Ýmailto:chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK¨
>Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 11:14 PM
>
>I started playing with this on my HP and was delighted to
>discover that on European LXs with a ¬ symbol above the Y key,
>you can press Y without shift or fn to do a power calculation
>in calc. Hey, saves a keystroke - more time for beer.


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200,00 for 1MB , let me know !
Thank's .
Alex.
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De: Jeff Johns 
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Enviada em: Domingo, 9 de Janeiro de 2000 00:34
Assunto: Fwd: Thinking of Selling 200LX 1MB


> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> From: "JS" 
> Subject: Thinking of Selling 200LX 1MB
> Date: 08 Jan 2000 23:24:43 EST
>
> I have a used, in good condition, 200LX ( and Serial Cable and intellisync
> software) that I am thinking of selling.  It was basically used only as a
> phone book and organizer....so I went to a Handspring Visor.
>
> Make me an offer.
>
> --
> Joel
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>
>
>
>
>
> --- end of forwarded message ---
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>
> Jeff
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> 200,00 for 1MB , let me know !
> Thank's .
> Alex.
> -----Mensagem Original-----
> De: Jeff Johns 
> Para: 
> Enviada em: Domingo, 9 de Janeiro de 2000 00:34
> Assunto: Fwd: Thinking of Selling 200LX 1MB
>
>
> > --- begin of forwarded message ---
> >
> > From: "JS" 
> > Subject: Thinking of Selling 200LX 1MB
> > Date: 08 Jan 2000 23:24:43 EST
> >
> > I have a used, in good condition, 200LX ( and Serial Cable and
intellisync
> > software) that I am thinking of selling.  It was basically used only as
a
> > phone book and organizer....so I went to a Handspring Visor.
> >
> > Make me an offer.
> >
> > --
> > Joel
> > jsandler@concentric.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Jeff
> >
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Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:13:24 -0500 (EST)

02h10m24s ago ...
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Axel Klag wrote:

My apologies!

   File was mis-named...all fixed now


> Hi Al,
> today I tried to download the Dez 1999-HPLX-Archive-Log an got the
> following error-message:
>
> -------------------------------
> Error 404

> ...
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Date:         Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:48:26 -0600
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Greetings,

  I now have an NT box at work but would love to get LLRA
setup as it was before under Win95.  My main requirement
is for transferring files back and forth, so alternative
techniques would be welcome, too. The desktop PC does not
have a PCMCIA slot, so card-net is not an option.

  So, does anyone have a recommendation?

thanks,
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I failed to get my interlnk/intersvr combo working on NT (4.0 sp5) after I moved
from Win95 to NT.

Also failed to get LLRA working, tho I'll confess I didn't try real hard.

Finally got  Transfile 200 working for daily file transfers, tho currently, I'm
using the Connectivity Pack. I switched to CPACK cuz I kept getting dropped
connections with TF, especially on large files.

What also works, but you probably wouldn't want to on a regular basis, is
Hyperterminal (on NT) and Datacomm (on LX).

I also think some people use ZIP.com from the SUPER site, but I'm not sure on
this.

- Longden





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Greetings,

  I now have an NT box at work but would love to get LLRA
setup as it was before under Win95.  My main requirement
is for transferring files back and forth, so alternative
techniques would be welcome, too. The desktop PC does not
have a PCMCIA slot, so card-net is not an option.

  So, does anyone have a recommendation?

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Date:         Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:15:02 -0600
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Longden,

  Thanks for the pointers.  Of course, I was hoping it would be simple.

tnx,
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Date:         Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:16:54 -0600
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Oops, forgot some pertinent info - Win NT version 4 SP4.

tnx,
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Date:         Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:20:40 -0800
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In-Reply-To:  "barry@FBTC.NET"'s message of Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:26:32 -0600

Hm, there have been some boxes made for QRP radios where the machinist
started with a solid block of aluminum and removed all the metal but
that wanted.  Check http://www.fix.net/~slmachco.  In fact, he's a
good candidate for doing such a job.

73, doug

   Date:    Sun, 9 Jan 2000 10:26:32 -0600
   From:    Barry Marks 

   >Seriously, CAD/CAM only really makes sense for high-volume production or
   >for things that require microfine tolerances.  A snazzy new case for an
   >out-of-production 8086 computer fits neither of these conditions.  So who
   >on the list is a practiced machinist?  I myself, while a lover of old
   >machines and occasional fixer-up of fine English motorbikes, sadly do not
   >yet have a home machine shop.

   A few decades ago I was trained as a machinist and began a tool and die
   maker's apprenticeship.  Life took me in a different direction.  But I
   remember enough to realize that a machinist would only be involved in the
   final steps of something like the case of the 200lx.  The first step would
   be to either cast or press or extrude metal into the appropriate shape.
   Then a machinist could handle the mating and finished surfaces and any
   threads that might be needed.

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>I would lean towards monochrome VGA, if it were doable.  Seems like that
>would be a good compromise from the users perspective, although I haven't
>thought through the hardware problems.

I think in this size screen there's little to be gained from VGA beyond
bragging rights.  VTA programs could be run but they'd be distorted and
difficult or impossible to read.

CGA has the advantage of being a lot faster than VGA, too.  It doesn't do as
much but it doesn't take as long to do it.

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>Reason I ask is that if there isn't and you frequently defrag
>said card, forcing all your data into the "top" clusters of
>the card, are you in some way defeating any automatic wear
>levelling built in to it?

There's never any reason to defrag a flash card.  It's memory.  There are no
moving parts so fragmentation doesn't slow anything down.  But it does
contribute to the wear on your card.

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Chris
I am interested in the REX project and would like to help.
Unfortunately my programming skills are just enough to implement some of
what goes by on this group.
But I do have a copy of Turbo C++ for DOS V 3.0 which includes Turbo C.
From Boreland on three 5.25 disks with a stack of manuals.
I'd contribute it to the REX project for the cost of shipping if you can
use it.
If anyone else wants it the price is a sixpack of god beer and shipping.


Andrew King
IIT Physics
Chicago 312-567-3021
technology is the answer,
what was the question?

Date:    Sat, 8 Jan 2000 07:32:32 -0600
From:    Chris Lott 
Subject: REX Project, WTB MS Compiler

Well, in my quest to read the REX using some sample code Mack gave me,
turns out I need a different compiler.  mack uses the Microsoft C ver
6.00a compiler.  I thought I had it made, as we have a similar but
later version of this same compiler here at work, ver 8.00 (which is
a 16-bit compiler that comes with MSVC 1.5 Prof edition).  Alas, v8
requires a 386 to compile.  I had wanted to do development of this
project on my palmtop, so I'm in the market for a v6 MS C compiler.

Anyone who has one for sale please contact me offlist.

Thanks,

-Chris

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On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Barry Marks wrote:

> There's never any reason to defrag a flash card.  It's memory.  There
> are no moving parts so fragmentation doesn't slow anything down.  But
> it does contribute to the wear on your card.

As has been stated before, there *is* reason to defrag a flash card, but
not for the same reason you defrag a hard drive.  It gives no speed
advantage, but it is a good idea to keep blocks of contiguous space free
so you can create swap files that require it (like with Software
Carousel).  Also, defragging memory cards on a regular basis will be a
HUGE advantage if you ever have to recover data off an erased portion of
the card by looking at the individual sectors and copying the data out of
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Date:         Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:52:40 +1300
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>If anyone else wants it the price is a sixpack of god beer and shipping.

Hmmm...God Beer - is that like Communion Wine?

Cheers, Roger

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Date:         Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:03:39 -0600
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Actually after a six pack of even very god beer I feel decidely un-holy.
I must be unworthy, or getting old, or both

Andrew King
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Chicago 312-567-3021
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what was the question?
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 lodger@nz1.ibm.com wrote:

>
> >If anyone else wants it the price is a sixpack of god beer and shipping.
>
> Hmmm...God Beer - is that like Communion Wine?
>
> Cheers, Roger
>
>
>

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On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:51:39 -0600, Andrew King  wrote:

> If anyone else wants it the price is a sixpack of god beer and shipping.
                                                    ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬

That's got to be some excellent beer !!!

Jeff

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> "Quad VGA", QVGA (320 x 240 pixels) is fairly usable, if we can find a
> display that does that.  The M1 HUD uses that.

But that's completely non-standard, unfortunately. :-(

> PC110 display: 3.9" wide by 2.9" tall
> HP200 display: 4.9" wide by 1.9" tall

And that extra inch of height is with the PC110's finer
pixels, too... OK, we need a screen with superfine pixels!

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> I think in this size screen there's little to be gained from VGA beyond
> bragging rights.  VTA programs could be run but they'd be distorted and
> difficult or impossible to read.

But think of the possibilities... With VGA compatibility, you
open up a vast new library of software. As for the "it's too
small!" problem, there's always magnification utilities and,
like the LX, you could presumably have various zoom levels.

> CGA has the advantage of being a lot faster than VGA, too.  It doesn't do as
> much but it doesn't take as long to do it.

Maybe so, but don't forget that the hypothetical VGA screen
would be backed up by a far more powerful machine, with a
faster processor and more RAM. I reckon that the advantages
would far outweigh any disadvantages.

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Date:         Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:55:37 -0700
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How about Hercules (720x348) monochrome graphics or clones of this fine
card?

Dale

> > "Quad VGA", QVGA (320 x 240 pixels) is fairly usable, if we can find a
> > display that does that.  The M1 HUD uses that.
>
> But that's completely non-standard, unfortunately. :-(
>
> > PC110 display: 3.9" wide by 2.9" tall
> > HP200 display: 4.9" wide by 1.9" tall
>
> And that extra inch of height is with the PC110's finer
> pixels, too... OK, we need a screen with superfine pixels!
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:14:33 -0600
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My additional comment on this thread is that a CGA-resolution display
on the 200LX sized screen is really pretty decent.  CGA looks less
than ideal on a 15-in desktop monitor, but when compressed to the
4 or 5 inches across of the 200LX, the actual resolution in pixels
per inch (or per cm) isn't shabby.  The problem, as has been pointed
out, is the compatibility with the bulk of newer programming - almost
nobody writes software to support the CGA display mode anymore.

Perhaps these wearable-lenses are a good option down the road.  We
have something similar here at work on an optical project - the little
eyepiece only has about 320x240, or something close.  I've been
keeping my eye out, so to speak, on this technology.  When it gets
to VGA or better resolution, things will get interesting.  From some
comments, we may be getting close.

-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 10 Jan 2000 18:49:59 -0600
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> My additional comment on this thread is that a CGA-resolution display
> on the 200LX sized screen is really pretty decent.  CGA looks less
> than ideal on a 15-in desktop monitor, but when compressed to the
> 4 or 5 inches across of the 200LX, the actual resolution in pixels
> per inch (or per cm) isn't shabby.  The problem, as has been pointed
> out, is the compatibility with the bulk of newer programming - almost
> nobody writes software to support the CGA display mode anymore.

Almost nobody writes software to a certain display resolution at all as
most talk to a windows driver for the display.  A virtual 640x480
resolution driver can be written for the CGA hardware built into the Elan
processor just like the 1024x768 mode works on a laptop that only has
800x600 resolution.  It might be cumbersome, but program compatibility will
not be a problem for the most part.

Cheers,
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I just got a 30 MB CF card & adapter for $70 in eBay and am very pleased
with it, but I'm having a problem: sometimes, even when the card is in
the slot I get a "Not ready reading drive A
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Another reason to NOT sell your 200lx on eBay!  If you're selling, sell
it here first!  See below!  Thanks.
=======================
| From: Bob Christopher 
| Subject: About To Give Up
|
| I've been trying to buy a used 100lx or 200lx for quite awhile now
with no luck.
| Even on Ebay I'm constantly outbid by Prolink1. Thaddeus is sold out
of all used
| units. Does anyone on the list have a used unit for sale?
|
|  Bob
|
| Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
| email mailto:bc@chisp.net          website http://chisp.net/~bc

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Date:         Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:23:55 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff 
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> Almost nobody writes software to a certain display resolution at all as
> most talk to a windows driver for the display.  A virtual 640x480
> resolution driver can be written for the CGA hardware built into the Elan
> processor just like the 1024x768 mode works on a laptop that only has
> 800x600 resolution.  It might be cumbersome, but program compatibility will
> not be a problem for the most part.

Sounds good, but... Would this hypothetical driver work no
matter what the OS? In other words, would one driver work
seamlessly both under DOS/Win/Linux etc, or would specific
separate drivers for each OS be needed? How adversely would
performance be affected by such a driver, or is it
impossible to say?

Also, it sounds like there's no reason why one of these
virtual drivers couldn't be written for the 100/200 LX. Is
such a project feasible? (Any programmers out there in need
of a challenge?!)

Sorry for the non-stop barrage of questions...!

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Hey guys,

Please count me in. I'd like to register my copy too. Thanks.

Jimmy.

----- Original Message -----
I called the number. It now belongs to a family that knows nothing of
Christopher Long.

If you locate him let me know.

Jeff Malka 
----- Original Message -----
From: Striegel, Alan 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: Genealogy on the hplx

> Don't give up. The README file gives the name of the author (Christopher
E.
> Long) and a company name (Visionary Endeavors) and address. While I
> couldn't locate the author by name, his company is listed in my DeLorme
> Phone Search USA CDROMs with the same phone number as the README gave.
The
> address does not include a P.O. box number, but the city and ZIP code have
> changed to:
>
> Visionary Endeavors
> Jacksonville, FL 32203
> 904-247-0062
>
> I tried calling the number at 10:30 this morning, but there was no answer
> and no machine picked up. He may just be at work, doing a real job.
>
> Alan
>
> >From: David Ball Ýmailto:dmb10@SWBELL.NET¨
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 3:55 PM
> >...
> >>Now that it has been determined that family Scrapbook is Y2k compliant,
I
> >...
> >>The biggest problem is that the author seems to have dissappeared.
> >
> >Indeed. I would gladly register this program.
>

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At 8:50pm Jan 10, 2000, Automatic digest processor wrote:

> Date:    Sun, 9 Jan 2000 19:59:59 -1000
> From:    Bob Graham 
> Subject: Y2K Problem - URGENT!!

> I enter ALL transaction into my HP200LX using Pocket Quicken and
> periodically transfer them to the desktop. To do this I Export them as
> a QIF file

> Pocket Quicken recognized the year 2000 and Exported the correct
> transaction. However Quicken 2000 treated the date 01/01/00 in the QIF
> record as 01/01/1900.
>
> How do I correct this?

Edit the QIF file before importing it into Quicken 2000? You might even be
able to make a quick System Macro that uses Memo to quickly change all
instances of "/00" to "/2000".

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> From:KAZU(K.TANABE)
> Hi all!
>
> Ed Keefe wrote.
> >Doesn't the CPack require an EGA display? If it could use a CGA  display,
> >then it should run on the 1000CX.
> The Cpack runs at CGA, too.
> You must remove CGA emulator?(CG.com) from the APP200.bat.
> My 1000CX works well with the Cpack and can display Japanese character.
> Off course, it can connect to other PC using the Cpack.(Cpack to Cpack)
> Bye.


I just substituted Palrun for the cg.com command and it ran in a window.
(I lost the blue color)

If only I could figure out how to force PALRUN enabled hp applications
(such as accis and www/post) to open in a window.  Sometimes they do but
that seems almost accidental.  They seem to almost always open as a full
screen application and I have to do Alt-enter to shrink them and then
toggle to a full window.

Has anybody actually dissected the app200.bat file.  There are all those
errorlevel checks, etc.  I've never had the patience to figure out
what's what and if it could be pared down so some minimum!!! (G)

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> I just got a 30 MB CF card & adapter for $70 in eBay and am very pleased
> with it, but I'm having a problem: sometimes, even when the card is in
> the slot I get a "Not ready reading drive A
> Abort, Retry, Fail?"
> error message.  It will sometimes go away if I Retry, but it always goes
> away after a soft reset.  Any ideas?

After removing REM statements, you might post your autoexec.bat and
config.sys files for folks to look over.

Maybe the card is slow to power up and the HP does not see it on initial
attempts.

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Mark sez:
>
>Probably better to do this in stamped metal with a cover, though;
> --snip--
>The case on the PC110 is a metal pressing, think about a "sub-frame"
>that is precision stamped, which the motherboard and all other parts
>mount to, that a thin sheet metal cover plate then screws down over.
> --snip--
>Stamping is CHEAP, any good metal place should be able to make
>a case that'd work for reasonable numbers that way - Not bullet proof,
>but serviceable.

I think you're talking about sheet steel here.  Sheet aluminum would
definitely not provide the kind of strength and dent-resistance a palmtop
would need.

Stamping aluminum can be cheap, because the tooling is relatively light.
Stamping sheet steel (unless you've got an uncle in the foundry business)
is definitely not cheap, as the tooling needs to be rather substantial.
Again, you would need a very high production number to justify the tooling
cost, and I don't think we're talking about thousands or even hundreds of
units for this project.

Doug sez:
>
>Hm, there have been some boxes made for QRP radios where the machinist
>started with a solid block of aluminum and removed all the metal but
>that wanted.  Check http://www.fix.net/~slmachco.  In fact, he's a
>good candidate for doing such a job.

Lots of stuff is made this way, particularly small items made of aluminum.
One doesn't necessarily need to make a casting first; especially with
the straightforward sort of shape we're talking about.  The two case
halves could be milled from blocks, and the hinge from round stock.

Although if you were so inclined, you could, as Dale said, make
aluminum castings yourself, with some time and a minimum of special
equipment.

An investment of time is really what's needed; the money investment, if
these things are made by someone in the Yellow Pages, would be simply too
large.

In sum, we need to find a guy with a machine room in his basement and make
an LX nut out of him.  ;-)

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As I've posted before, I just recently purchased a Windows CE device, an
HP320LX, from an auction on Ebay.  As such, I have some general questions I
haven't been able to find the answer to yet after searching the Web.

First...what is the capacity of the notes feature on the Tasks program?
That is, what is the byte-size limit of the notes that one can add to
specific tasks?

Second...is it possible to copy the tasks program and run it in a separate
folder?  I'd like to keep the primary program in the Windows folder, but
have a copy of it in a separate folder so I can use it for different types
of tasks.

Any information, admittedly off-topic, would be greatly appreciated.


Regards,

David Ball
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              "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" 
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>After removing REM statements, you might post your autoexec.bat and
>config.sys files for folks to look over.

>Maybe the card is slow to power up and the HP does not see it on
initial
>attempts.

That's what I was thinking.  But I thought I'd check on other
possibilities.

OK,  here are my startup files:
  CONFIG.SYS:
DEVICE=\T2T\SPD31.EXE
DEVICE=\T2T\RD32.SYS
DEVICE=\T2T\RD32SWAP.EXE
DEVICE=\T2T\TREMM.EXE
BUFFERS=20
FILES=30
SHELL=D:\DOS\COMMAND.COM /E:512 /P

  AUTOEXEC.BAT:
@echo off
ECHO.
ECHO AUTOEXEC.BAT
ECHO.
PROMPT Ý$D, $T¨$_$P$G
SET PAFCONF=C:\LDS\PAF3
SET WP=/MONO /NH /NK /WS
SET TEMP=A:\
SET TMP=A:\
SET DOSSHELL=C:\DOS
SET
PATH=C:\;D:\;D:\BIN;D:\DOS;C:\UTILS;C:\DOS;C:\MENU;C:\LDS;C:\LDS\PAF3;C:\WP

IF EXIST C:\TEMP\*.* DEL C:\TEMP\*.*
\utils\helvmoon.com
:: Enable referencing the plug-in card (A:) as E: also.
assign e:=a:
:: Card Installation Client TSR for PCMCIA modem card.
::d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1
:: First LapLink Remote Access TSR.
call d:\bin\llras
:: Load DOSkey macros.
call \utils\dk.bat
:: Load Battery Logging program
\utils\battlog.com
:: Load pop-up ASCII chart (Hot key: Alt+A)
\utils\asc
:: Load 200Buddy TSR
\utils\buddy.com
moreexm -s5
\utils\lxpro
ECHO.
mode bw80
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              Daniel Hertrich 
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Hi,

> I started playing with this on my HP and was delighted to
> discover that on European LXs with a ¬ symbol above the Y key,
> you can press Y without shift or fn to do a power calculation
> in calc. Hey, saves a keystroke - more time for beer.

Doesn't work with my German HP200LX. no time for beer. :-(

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:22:46 +0930
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Keith Grider writes:
> I have dumped this in
> favor of Rod Whitby's collection of telnet/ftp/mail/news rpograms. These
> allow for retrieval of news and mail and display them in PNR (palmtop news
> reader) which he also authored.

A small correction: Michael J. Leaver authored PNR - I took
over the maintenance when Michael became an ex-HP200LX user
and was kind enough to release the source code (as all good
authors should do when they are no longer prepared to support
a piece of software).  I've made some improvements, but the
large majority of the code is still Michael's work, not mine.

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Date:         Mon, 10 Jan 2000 22:37:13 -1000
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              Bob Graham 
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Peter - Thanks. Intuit said about the same thing of editing the
QIF file. Your idea of a macro sounds good, I'll set one up.

Intuit said to contact the software company that generates the
QIF file and have them make the changes to the program. Guess
they don't recognise Pocket Quicken  :¬)

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

Peter W wrote:
>
> At 8:50pm Jan 10, 2000, Automatic digest processor wrote:
>
> > Date:    Sun, 9 Jan 2000 19:59:59 -1000
> > From:    Bob Graham 
> > Subject: Y2K Problem - URGENT!!
>
> > I enter ALL transaction into my HP200LX using Pocket Quicken and
> > periodically transfer them to the desktop. To do this I Export them as
> > a QIF file
>
> > Pocket Quicken recognized the year 2000 and Exported the correct
> > transaction. However Quicken 2000 treated the date 01/01/00 in the QIF
> > record as 01/01/1900.
> >
> > How do I correct this?
>
> Edit the QIF file before importing it into Quicken 2000? You might even be
> able to make a quick System Macro that uses Memo to quickly change all
> instances of "/00" to "/2000".
>
> -Peter

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On 10 Jan 2000 13:05:03 -0800, Barry Marks  wrote:

> There's never any reason to defrag a flash card.  It's memory.  There are no
> moving parts so fragmentation doesn't slow anything down.  But it does
> contribute to the wear on your card.

I have to defrag both my C drive and my A drive when I have resized the
Jamdrives on them. I can not mount the jamdrives if I do not defrag them first.

I have to demount/resize and defrag and then remount. I use
speedisk.exe /eu

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Arvidas Bajercius  wrote:

> I just used the mileage tracker spreadsheet for the first time
> this year and
> my date came up all *********'s instead of 01/09/00.  I don't
> recall any
> mention of this problem on the list. Would appreciate any
> assistance in
> correcting the date entry.

You need to set the column width of the date column in your spreadsheet
to 11 because you now have a four-digit year number.

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On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:01:53 -0600, David Ball  wrote:


> First...what is the capacity of the notes feature on the Tasks program?
> That is, what is the byte-size limit of the notes that one can add to
> specific tasks?

I'm sure, but think its around 32k.

> Second...is it possible to copy the tasks program and run it in a =
separate
> folder?  I'd like to keep the primary program in the Windows folder, =
but
> have a copy of it in a separate folder so I can use it for different =
types
> of tasks.

Not sure about this one either, but all of your database files are stored
in a database sub-directory in the Windows directory.


HTH


Regards,

Qman...
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OK, not really. But I did stumble onto something I thought would be
really neat for owners of Transdigital or Quatech cards. There's a
very simple DAC that one can build for a parallel port. Resembles
something similar to a resistor network. Check out the details at:

http://digitalparadise.cgocable.ca/MegaMan_X/Projects/LPTDAC/

Maybe we can put this in the FAQ?

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              John J Vanderstel 
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              project

Hi Mark,

>What!?!  That's NEWS to ME!  A PC110's batteries are replaceable by the
>original IBM 1200mAh, or by 1500mAh, Sony NP-F550 Li-Ion Camcorder
>batteries, while the machine's running an application;  You close the
>top lid, it suspends;  you open the little door on the right, swap
>batteries, close and latch the door, open the case again and continue
>using the machine.  It complains when it's time to swap batteries...
>External power off another battery pack is easy enough to do, also; you
>could run all day without running the internal battery down.  And the
>Li-Ion batteries are pretty light, compared to other battery tech.  (Can
>run off an external Lead-Acid pack for a long time, but that's heavier
>to carry!)

Your comments have been well taken, Mark. Everything I thought I knew
about the PC-110 is what I've seen in posts to this list.  I've never
even seen one.  I stand corrected on that point.

The PC-110 sounds like it's an amazing machine, but due to other's
negative comments on other aspects of PC-110 use in the past (even in
today's digest), I'm still searching for a reasonably priced 50mhz
Libretto.  It seems as though those with 50mhz Librettos are holding on
to them very tightly.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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              Jeff Johns 
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Does anyone have a script for WWW/LX that works with the ISP HiWAAY?

Jeff

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> Does anyone have a script for WWW/LX that works with the ISP HiWAAY?

Jeff:

I use HiWAAY, although I haven't fired up WWW/LX since the transition
(HiWAAY bought out my previous ISP, Renaissance).  But none of my other
scripts needed any special changes, say the ones for LXTCP, which I use
often.  Just the normal stuff - phone nos, DNS, etc.  Would you like me
to prepare one and check it out for you?

-Chris


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              Jeff 
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Chris Lott wrote:

> I use HiWAAY, although I haven't fired up WWW/LX since the transition
> (HiWAAY bought out my previous ISP, Renaissance).  But none of my other
> scripts needed any special changes, say the ones for LXTCP, which I use
> often.  Just the normal stuff - phone nos, DNS, etc.  Would you like me
> to prepare one and check it out for you?

They also bought out my ISP and I am trying to get everything ready for
the change. With my current and soon to be defunct ISP I just used a
login name of jeffj.ppp and that won't work with the HiWAAY dial-up
number. I can dial with a terminal and see that issuing my login name
'jeffj' then my password I am left at a '>' type prompt. I assume
something needs to be sent there to start the ppp type connection. I am
going to call them and see what they say, but if you come-up with one, by
all means send it to me .

Jeff

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On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Peter W wrote:

> Edit the QIF file before importing it into Quicken 2000? You might
> even be able to make a quick System Macro that uses Memo to quickly
> change all instances of "/00" to "/2000".

I'm not sure it's of any use, but my version (Quicken 8 for DOS) has a few
Y2K peculiarities, the main one being that for many inputs you can't put
in things like 01/10/2000 or it says "PLEASE USE DATE FORMAT MM/DD/YY."
And if you use 01/10/00 it does the same thing.  What it turns out you
have to do is do 01/10'00.  For some reason using the apostrophe seems to
indicate that it's 2000 or beyond.

So the point here: if you edit the exported file, it *may* not work to
change /00 to /2000.  If not, try changing /00 to '00 and that may work
better.

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Won't a metal case be heavier?

Also, the plastic case has a bit of flex to it.  It'll spring back to
normal position if bent or twisted (a little bit).  Won't metal tend to
dent or deform in situations where the plastic might be more forgiving?

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Do you mind if I ask you how do  you share files between Quicken 8 for DOS and pocket Quicken?  Or perhaps  you use only the DOS version?  I have thought of switching, but I don't know how to share the files in this case.

Domingo
 ------Original Message------
From: David Sargeant 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 11, 2000 3:25:49 AM GMT
Subject: Re: Y2K Problem - URGENT!!


On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Peter W wrote:

> Edit the QIF file before importing it into Quicken 2000? You might
> even be able to make a quick System Macro that uses Memo to quickly
> change all instances of "/00" to "/2000".

I'm not sure it's of any use, but my version (Quicken 8 for DOS) has a few

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As far as I can tell, this is the same file from SUPER called irda097.zip, which is not intended for the 82240b printer (though I have not tried it that way.  My 82240b came without a manual)

Domingo


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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 7, 2000 4:25:58 PM GMT
Subject: Re: HP 82240B IRDA  Printer


Hello,

I missed the original positing, but the follow-ups appear to indicate a
problem printing to a IrDA printer from a 200LX.  Attached is a link on
the HP support site for a 200LX IrDA Printer Driver:

http://www.hp.com/cposupport/handheld_computers/software/irda200.zip.html

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It's not mine (no chance of *that*!), but as a newcomer to
eBay, I was browsing and found a UK 200LX for sale at:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=232111494 (I hope that's right... I copied it in manually!)

No sign of the mysterious "prolink1"... yet!

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On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:32:06 -0500, Mike Wagstaff wrote:

>It's not mine (no chance of *that*!), but as a newcomer to
>eBay, I was browsing and found a UK 200LX for sale at:
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D232111494 (I =
hope that's right... I copied it in manually!)
>
>No sign of the mysterious "prolink1"... yet!

That's because this is ebay UK - prolink would have to pay in pounds
sterling and for transatlantic shipping :)

I might just go for that one myself as a backup.

--=20
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Is there some way to read a Paradox database file on the hp200lx using
software which is readily available on SUPER or in the PIMs?

-- Terry

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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: metal shell

   >Won't a metal case be heavier?
   >Also, the plastic case has a bit of flex to it.  It'll spring back
   >to normal position if bent or twisted (a little bit).  Won't metal
   >tend to dent or deform in situations where the plastic might be
   >more forgiving?
Message-Id: <20000112004714.EAOO5516@Ý12.72.154.202¨>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:47:14 +0000

There, after all this discussion, I think we're back to Jeff/Mack's kevlar
case or my spray-on rubberized truckbed liner.

- Longden

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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Comments: cc: aj93@DIAL.PIPEX.COM

   >It's not mine (no chance of *that*!), but as a newcomer to
   >eBay, I was browsing and found a UK 200LX for sale at:
Message-Id: <20000112004721.EAPH5516@Ý12.72.154.202¨>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:47:21 +0000

   >No sign of the mysterious "prolink1"... yet!

For those of you who may have missed him in the last few days, "prolink1"
(aka Alex) is now a member of this list.

Maybe if we ask him real nice, he'll tell us what he's doing with all those
200LX's and then he won't be so mysterious anymore .

Ebay is clearly a place to get top dollar on your sale, and I wouldn't
begrudge anyone for wanting to get the most for his/her LX.

But personally, if I had an LX for sale, I'd sell within this list group (as
I know others have done) to friends who'd treasure every gram of silicon.

- Longden

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At 10:45 AM 1/11/00 -0800, you wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:01:53 -0600, David Ball  wrote:
>
>
>> First...what is the capacity of the notes feature on the Tasks program?
>> That is, what is the byte-size limit of the notes that one can add to
>> specific tasks?
>
>I'm sure, but think its around 32k.

Ahhh, that's good.  I've been looking for this information on the 'Net, but
haven't found any real description of these specifics yet.

>> Second...is it possible to copy the tasks program and run it in a separate
>> folder?  I'd like to keep the primary program in the Windows folder, but
>> have a copy of it in a separate folder so I can use it for different types
>> of tasks.
>
>Not sure about this one either, but all of your database files are stored
>in a database sub-directory in the Windows directory.

So presumably one can copy the file to another directory and have multiple
copies of these files containing different information?  I'll try it and see.

Thanks very much for the reply.




Regards,

David Ball
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> Won't a metal case be heavier?
>
> Also, the plastic case has a bit of flex to it.  It'll spring back to
> normal position if bent or twisted (a little bit).  Won't metal tend to
> dent or deform in situations where the plastic might be more forgiving?

I was wondering similar - does the "plastic" case absorb some bumps and
bruises (and falls) that the metal case would convey straight to the
innards - the screen and boards inside?

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              David Ness 
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Was there ever a 50mhz Libretto? I have a Libretto 50CT, which is
75mhz, that I still occasionally use, but I don't recall there ever
being a 50mhz Libretto. Did I miss it? What is it worth?

John J Vanderstel wrote:
>
> Your comments have been well taken, Mark. Everything I thought I knew
> about the PC-110 is what I've seen in posts to this list.  I've never
> even seen one.  I stand corrected on that point.
>
> The PC-110 sounds like it's an amazing machine, but due to other's
> negative comments on other aspects of PC-110 use in the past (even in
> today's digest), I'm still searching for a reasonably priced 50mhz
> Libretto.  It seems as though those with 50mhz Librettos are holding on
> to them very tightly.
>
> Cheers!
>
> John Vander Stel
> Grand Rapids, Michigan
>

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              Fryday 
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Here's the results:

Phone.pbd (159KB) to Contacts (634KB)
Appt.adb (48KB) to Appointments (152KB) + Tasks (134KB)

Yikes!!!

Philippe

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Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:41:48 -0500 (EST)

Actually, Alex signed off after a couple days.

02h54m29s ago ...
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

>...
> For those of you who may have missed him in the last few days, "prolink1=
"
> (aka Alex) is now a member of this list.
>
> ...
*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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              David Ball 
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I recently acquired a 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II card to use
with my 200LX.  It works well with that unit.  However, for some reason my
HP320LX Windows CE unit will not recognize the card.  Is a special driver
required to use this type of RAM card on a CE handheld?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,

David Ball
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, dd diaz wrote:

> Do you mind if I ask you how do you share files between Quicken 8 for
> DOS and pocket Quicken?  Or perhaps you use only the DOS version?  I
> have thought of switching, but I don't know how to share the files in
> this case.

You can use the Connectivity Pack to copy the data over from Pocket
Quicken, but then you need to use only the DOS version after that, as it
doesn't go both ways.

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              Jeff 
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Is there a way to make WWW/LX report the true connection speed? I am
using the correct AT commands with my modem but all WWW/LX seems to want
to report is the speed set-up when using wwwsetup.exe. I took a cursory
glance at the docs but didn't really see anything related to this subject.

Jeff

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Dave - Thanks, I'll check that out. - bob     \ooo_

Automatic digest processor wrote:

> Date:    Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:25:49 -0800
> From:    David Sargeant 
> Subject: Re: Y2K Problem - URGENT!!
>
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2000, Peter W wrote:
>
> > Edit the QIF file before importing it into Quicken 2000? You might
> > even be able to make a quick System Macro that uses Memo to quickly
> > change all instances of "/00" to "/2000".
>
> I'm not sure it's of any use, but my version (Quicken 8 for DOS) has a few
> Y2K peculiarities, the main one being that for many inputs you can't put
> in things like 01/10/2000 or it says "PLEASE USE DATE FORMAT MM/DD/YY."
> And if you use 01/10/00 it does the same thing.  What it turns out you
> have to do is do 01/10'00.  For some reason using the apostrophe seems to
> indicate that it's 2000 or beyond.
>
> So the point here: if you edit the exported file, it *may* not work to
> change /00 to /2000.  If not, try changing /00 to '00 and that may work
> better.
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              Fryday 
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Got it. Gee, my Technology (that's what they used to call it) classes are
pretty dim in my memory...

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: I opened my 600CT NiMh battery


> No -- it means you must have 4 x 1.2v @ 1.5ah.  All of the batteries
> must have the same power rating.
>
> David, WA7ZYQ
>
> Fryday wrote:
> >
> > So for the OB300, if I have 4 batteries that create 4.8V and 1.5Ah, that
means
> > that each battery must have 1.2V and 375 mAh, is that right?
> >
> > And for the OB600CT, if I have 8 batteries that create 9.6V and 1.7Ah,
each
> > battery is 1.2V and 212.5mAh. Right?
> >
> > Philippe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Christopher Erickson 
> > To: Multiple recipients of list 
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 7:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: I opened my 600CT NiMh battery
> >
> > > Yup, it means Amp-Hour.  That is a basis of measuring actual work
capacity.
> > > How many amps (maximum) can be output at a consistent rate if
discharged for
> > > one hour.
> > >
> > > The OB300 through OB530 batteries used an early-version NiMH cell.
Later
> > > technology allowed a higher Amp-Hour rating in the same size cell.
Old
> > > Omnibook batteries can be rebuilt with the newer-technology cells
without
> > > problems and benefit from the higher-capacity too.
> > >
> > > The OB600/800 LiIon packs are a bit trickier.  I have not yet found
> > > replacement cells for these!
> > >
> > > -Christopher Erickson
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Fryday Ýmailto:fryday@california.com¨
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 6:12 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > > Subject: I opened my 600CT NiMh battery
> > >
> > > I finally opened my 600CT battery to see what's in there. Well,
people, they
> > > look just like the ones for the 300 (same size), and seemingly they
have the
> > > same voltage (1.2v per battery). Only difference I can see on the case
is
> > > the
> > > 600's says 1.7ah and the 300's says 1.5ah.
> > >
> > > What does "ah" mean? Amper-Hour?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > > Philippe
> > >
>

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Mike Wagstaff wrote:
> > Almost nobody writes software to a certain display resolution at all as
> > most talk to a windows driver for the display.  A virtual 640x480
> > resolution driver can be written for the CGA hardware built into the Elan
> > processor just like the 1024x768 mode works on a laptop that only has
> > 800x600 resolution.  It might be cumbersome, but program compatibility will
> > not be a problem for the most part.
>
> Sounds good, but... Would this hypothetical driver work no
> matter what the OS? In other words, would one driver work
> seamlessly both under DOS/Win/Linux etc, or would specific
> separate drivers for each OS be needed? How adversely would
> performance be affected by such a driver, or is it
> impossible to say?
>
> Also, it sounds like there's no reason why one of these
> virtual drivers couldn't be written for the 100/200 LX. Is
> such a project feasible? (Any programmers out there in need
> of a challenge?!)
>
> Sorry for the non-stop barrage of questions...!
>
>  -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

Drivers are most always OS-specific;  Occasionally you can write a
driver that crosses the Dos/Win 9x barrier, if quite careful.  Same
driver's going to need a rewrite usually to be usable as a Linux driver,
OS/2 driver, Minix driver, etc.  It's not pretty, but it IS truth.

(Lessee, for each CGA pixel, average 2.4 VGA pixels?  Probably easiest
to just do that by alternating 2, and 3, pixels vertically, leaving a
little border at the bottom.  How to simulate the VGA hardware, is
another matter.  Have to force Bios Writes to VGA, I think?  Been a
while since I wrote anything in a Video TSR...)

  Mark

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Hi All,

Is the IRDA with a NOKIA 6150 a working environment
in conjunction with the HP200LX ?
__________________________________________
    o__       Harry Wellner
   _.>/)_     Gouda - Netherlands / Europe
  (_) \(_)

Palmtop Power!--This email composed on a rugged HP200LX that
fits in your pocket!

Med vennlig hilsen / Regards /
        Mit freundlichen Gruessen /
                 Met vriendelijke groeten

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:25:24 +0100
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              Steffen Wagner 
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SMA Regelsysteme GmbH
i. A. Steffen Wagner
Software-Abteilung
Hannoversche Stra=DFe 1-5
D 34266 Niestetal / Germany
Tel: (0561) 9522 - 270
Fax: (0561)  9522 - 100
eMail: swagner@sma.de
Web: http://www.sma.de


>>> Harry Wellner  12.01.2000  11.10 Uhr >>>
Hi All,

Is the IRDA with a NOKIA 6150 a working environment
in conjunction with the HP200LX ?


Sorry, is is not.
The Nokia 61xx has no real modem. It can only be used
with the Nokia Datasuite for Win95/98.

But.. there is a Linux-Project to connect this=20
mobile phone without the Nokia software to=20
Linux. I will search my booksmarks.=20
Contact me, if are interested.

If anyone has better informations, please let me
know .. I own a 6150 too...


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Milspec metal cases are often rubber-coated to provide just a little reduction to the G-force on dropping it on concrete.  That said they also use special shock-mounts, and often specially soldered boards - the latter to withstand vibration rather than shock.

If you knew the specification of the LX in terms of G-force it can stand - usually expressed simply as how far you can drop it onto concrete before it breaks - you could make a metal case that delivered the same.  But it would have to be bigger to make space for some kind of polymer coating.  You may have noticed that Milspec laptops tend to be chunkier than those in the shops!

Frankly it would be much cheaper to ask HP for the moulds for the LX case and enable Thaddeus & co to replace broken cases ad infinitum.  I think it is quite cheap to have custom plastic cases made if you've got the tooling.

If you must have metal, make mine Titanium please, you can get some lovely anodised colours.

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I have completed the work on ccLXPOP 2.01. It now will do the following:

1. Download newsgroups, routing them to a folder of the newsgroup name if it
exists.
2. Send articles to newsgroups.
3. Route incoming messages to folders according to rules specified in a file.

The format for the rules is simple & straight forward:

Field, Parameter, Folder

for example, to route all the HPLX list messages to a folder named HPLX folder:

From:, LISTSERV@UCONNVN.uconn.edu, HPLX Folder

I went with this format as it seemed the easiest to implement and also provided
the ability to do everything that people wanted, though perhaps not as
elegantly.

It is out to the beta testers now, and pending their approval, I will upload
program to SUPER.

Brian

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:04:16 -0600
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              Theodore Heise 
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Terry asked if there is a simple way to read Paradox files on
the 200LX.

Here's what I do.  On my desktop I import the table of interest
into Quattro, and then save as a Lotus 1-2-3 file (*.wk1).  This
is in Corel WordPerfect Suite 8, Windows 95.

It's not the most direct method imaginable, but the Quattro
import is surprisingly effective.

Ted

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Just want to take an unofficial poll of those interested in the
possibility of syncing their REX units with the PCMCIA slot...
Could you e-mail me back indicating which REX unit you have?
I'm specifically interested in the memory capacity - it would
seem that the 512K version has a somewhat different, and less
well documented, data format than the 256K units.  I need to know
which one is most prevalent amongst our group.

-Chris Lott

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> Is there a way to make WWW/LX report the true connection speed? I am
> using the correct AT commands with my modem but all WWW/LX seems to want
> to report is the speed set-up when using wwwsetup.exe. I took a cursory
> glance at the docs but didn't really see anything related to this subject.

Jeff,

I use the W2 command and it seems to work of me.  I set it
up long ago on my Apex Data V.34 with ATT.  Don't remember
how I did it.(G)  I usually get 24000, 26400, 28800.  Even
got 51000 once.     =Bob=

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Thanks everyone for the info on the connection speed with WWW/LX. I've =
got
it working like a charm now!

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:26:59 +0100
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              JEZ.CUNNINGHAM@ALCATEL.FR
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Apologies if you've seen this (or similar) before but I couldn't resist
sharing my daily chuckle...

Q:  How many hplx mail-list subscribers does it take to change a
light bulb?


A:  1,331.   1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list
that the light bulb has been changed, and then...

14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently.

7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.

6 to ask how long the battery life will be if it is used for backlighting.

27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing
light bulbs.

53 to flame the spell checkers.

22 blaming Bill Gates for the need to upgrade light bulbs every 1000 hours.

156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light
bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list.

41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.

16 to suggest that it could be powered off the serial port.

109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take
this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb

203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and
alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped.

111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use
light bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail
list.

42 to ask if list subscribers in South America are cornering the market in
used bulbs.

206 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior,
where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best
for this technique, and what brands are faulty.

27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs.

14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post
corrected URLs.

3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to
this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list.

24 to say they have seen offers of bulbs on eBay.

33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all
headers and footers, and then add "Me Too."

12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they
cannot handle the light bulb controversy.

19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three."

4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ.

1 (guess who) to ask if there is a kevlar-coated bulb available.

1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.

47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for,
leave it here.

143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.

and me - to post it to the list all over again as if it was new and nobody
had ever seen it before...

        Sorry!
         jez

ps - and probably one more who has added up all the numbers above and
disputes the total!

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              Nan-shan Chen 
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From:         Nan-shan Chen 
Subject:      Re: Soundblaster for the palmtop!
In-Reply-To:  <387B82C4.F63640B9@optimus-corp.com> from "Curtis Brown" at Jan
              11, 0 12:21:40 pm
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> OK, not really. But I did stumble onto something I thought would be
> really neat for owners of Transdigital or Quatech cards. There's a
> very simple DAC that one can build for a parallel port. Resembles
> something similar to a resistor network. Check out the details at:
>
> http://digitalparadise.cgocable.ca/MegaMan_X/Projects/LPTDAC/
>

Yes, I've soldered such a (passive) ladder and played a lot with
it and the parallel port quite a while ago. Many module-players,
and sound-playered support it. "Covox" (sp?) will usually be
mentioned whenever such a DAC is supported. The sound quality is
very good, especially when corrected to an amplifyer. I recall
that the output impedance is high. Don't remember if I have
tried an ear-phone. I've never seen the device "Covox". Does
anyone have such a thing?

I tried the simplest module-players (supporting PC-speaker and
"Covox" DAC) on my HP200LX before, but they always brought my
unit down.

If I recall correctly, the text-to-speech TRAN.EXE (from simtel)
also supports such a device and has a much better speech-quality
than via PC-loud speaker.

> Maybe we can put this in the FAQ?

But a parallel port is not a standard interface on our plamtops.
Would someone confirm that the parallel-PCMCIA cards do work with
such a DAC with the though that the programs are using the
parallel lines in a different way from that of a Centronic-interface.
If the PCMCIA parallel is tailored only for a printer, there should
be a chance that it does not work with such a DAC.

Somebody have more experiences with producing sounds on our plamtops?
I'm still longing for a text-to-speech possibility on my palmtop
sooo muuuch. I'll expect an stand-alone, active serial device with
a Ýline out¨. Better driven by usual batteries like our palmtop.

I've heard the Digital "Dec Talk" many, many, many years ago in Taiwan.
And it produced very natural speech (English, man, woman, child, ...)
but was quite bulky (about the size of a printer).  After so many, many,
many years, such an device of the size of our palmtop or even smaller
should have been possible for a long time.

And I WONDER WHY such text-to-speech devices never become so popular
as I have expected! They can do so many things for us! I've never
seen one since then. Any ideas?

Rudi

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:31:50 -0500
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              Rick S 
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              arc6a180.bf.sover.net Ý209.198.85.181¨ 209.198.85.181 Wed, 12 Jan
              2000 09:32:01 -0500 (EST)
From:         Rick S 
Subject:      Still looking for a 200LX
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Greetings, list -

I am still looking to buy a 200LX or 1000CX and have
recently given up on Ebay.  I am relatively new at this.  Has it always
been this difficult to find one?

Longden wrote:

> But personally, if I had  an LX for sale, I'd sell within this list
> group (as I know others have done) to friends who'd treasure every gram
> of silicon.

My sentiments exactly!  If anyone has a spare LX looking for a good
home, I'd love to hear about it!

Rick Sheppe
Programmer (not a reseller)

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:40:51 -0600
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              Barry Marks 
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>As has been stated before, there *is* reason to defrag a flash card, but
>not for the same reason you defrag a hard drive.  It gives no speed
>advantage, but it is a good idea to keep blocks of contiguous space free
>so you can create swap files that require it (like with Software
>Carousel).  Also, defragging memory cards on a regular basis will be a
>HUGE advantage if you ever have to recover data off an erased portion of
>the card by looking at the individual sectors and copying the data out of
>it.

That might be true with Software Carousel but I don't use it and it wasn't
mentioned in the initial so that wasn't part of the equation.  As for
recovery, I think regular backups are a better solution.  I added a PCMCIA
card reader to my desktop and backing up is now trivial.  Prior to that I
used the PCMCIA slot on my laptop to back up my cards and it was half a step
away from trivial.

Barry

Barry

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-----Original Message-----
Subject: FLUFF: How many hplx mail-list subscribers to change a bulb?


Apologies if you've seen this (or similar) before but I couldn't resist
sharing my daily chuckle...
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Jez,

No apology needed. A good laugh is essential to good health.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 09:27:15 -0600
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Hello,

I am soliciting a few beta testers for a Newton keyboard driver that I have
written. It uses the same parameters as the current driver minus the stuff
for the different clock speeds. It has a slighly smaller memory footprint
when loaded and should be more compatible with applications on the HP.

Cheers,
 Mack                          mailto:mack@times2tech.com

www.times2tech.com

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              dd diaz 
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From:         dd diaz 
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Pardon my impatience, but when will the new FFDB be out?  I know it's been on beta for a little while now.  I'm just dying to try it.   :-)

Domingo

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From: Brian McIlvaine 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 11, 2000 5:11:37 PM GMT
Subject: ccLXPOP version 2.01 (beta)


I have completed the work on ccLXPOP 2.01. It now will do the following:

(snip)

It is out to the beta testers now, and pending their approval, I will upload
program to SUPER.

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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" 
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> >> Second...is it possible to copy the tasks program and run it in a separate
> >> folder?  I'd like to keep the primary program in the Windows folder, but
> >> have a copy of it in a separate folder so I can use it for different types
> >> of tasks.
> >
> >Not sure about this one either, but all of your database files are stored
> >in a database sub-directory in the Windows directory.
>
> So presumably one can copy the file to another directory and have multiple
> copies of these files containing different information?  I'll try it and see.

I believe that win-ce will only store the db files to the "internal"
disk.  I'm not sure if the 3rd party db applications are more flexible
but they may be.  You can only have one "phone" db.  You canNOT move it
to a drive.  You can backup to a pcmcia drive but canNOT access it as
such.

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              Tom Salwasser 
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This post appeared on the compuserve hphand forum recently.

01/10/00 11:52 pm =


Time to go, folks. CompuServe does not stand for the same things it did t=
en
years ago. =


I want to thank all of the palmtoppers who have helped me and amused me a=
nd
entertained me and educated me over the last few years. =


Some products, such as acCIS and WWW/lx still leave me staring in
admiration - as do those who authored and support them. =


My 2 meg HP200lx, with EXP 8 meg/14.4 fax/modem card, two wall plugs,
printer cable and leather carry case, and such is up for highest bid. I'd=

rather leave it here amongst friends than ship it off to EBay. I have the=

connectivity pack laying around...geez, I gotta get organized one of thes=
e
days =

 . =


The reserve batteries are due to be replaced, other than that it's in
concours condition. Oh - my name is filled out of the nameplate. No
scratches or cracks. =


Anyone interested in purchasing same (U.S. sales only, please) please sen=
d
an email bid to 70303.1153@compuserve.com; the account will remain open f=
or
awhile yet. Highest bidder wins - assuming you all don't gang up on me an=
d
offer a quarter . =


A couple of palmtoppers have requested some of the old DOS software I
offered a couple of weeks ago - and that will be shipped (hopefully) this=

week. =


Fred, Linda, Dr. Steve, lt, Tom, Avi, Andreas, Rob (acCIS on the Fly )=
 -
too many too list here - I wish you all the very best. =


Will the last one out of the HP Palmtoppers forum please turn out the
lights? =


Please send any bids on the HP to email, please. I shan't be stopping by
this way again. =


Goodbye, and may God bless. =


Jim =

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              Nan-shan Chen 
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From:         Nan-shan Chen 
Subject:      Re: FWD: hp200lx for sale
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              at Jan 12, 0 11:11:57 am
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> Will the last one out of the HP Palmtoppers forum please turn out the
> lights?

Feel so sad hearing this...

Rudi

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 0100 19:38:24 +0100
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              Nan-shan Chen 
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From:         Nan-shan Chen 
Subject:      Re: FWD: hp200lx for sale
In-Reply-To:  <200001121825.TAA24820@getultra21.uni-paderborn.de> from
              "Nan-shan Chen" at Jan 12, 0 07:26:34 pm
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>
> > Will the last one out of the HP Palmtoppers forum please turn out the
> > lights?
>
> Feel so sad hearing this...
>
> Rudi

et lux, perpetua,
  et lux perpetua luceat eis.
    luceat eis
            luceat eis
                   luceat eis
                            Kyrei ele-------ison ...

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:50:52 -0400
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              Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM
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From:         Brian McIlvaine 
Subject:      Re: ccLXPOP version 2.01 (beta)
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Domingo -

I stopped work on FFDB for a while as I had run into some brick walls in
tracking down some bugs. I will probably start back into it now that I have
done everything that I want to do to ccLXPOP.

Brian

-----------Reply Seperator-----------

Pardon my impatience, but when will the new FFDB be out?  I know it's been on
beta for a little while now.  I'm just dying to try it.   :-)

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: Brian McIlvaine 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 11, 2000 5:11:37 PM GMT
Subject: ccLXPOP version 2.01 (beta)


I have completed the work on ccLXPOP 2.01. It now will do the following:

(snip)

It is out to the beta testers now, and pending their approval, I will upload
program to SUPER.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 13:55:45 -0500
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              dd diaz 
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I don't know if this  counts, but I am interested in buying the 512k model, not the other one, if there is a way to use the REX directly with the palmtop.

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: Chris Lott 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 12, 2000 1:21:13 PM GMT
Subject: REX Sync Project


Just want to take an unofficial poll of those interested in the
possibility of syncing their REX units with the PCMCIA slot...
Could you e-mail me back indicating which REX unit you have?
I'm specifically interested in the memory capacity - it would
seem that the 512K version has a somewhat different, and less
well documented, data format than the 256K units.  I need to know
which one is most prevalent amongst our group.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:16:23 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Ed Padin 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Ed Padin 
Subject:      Fluff: RE: ÝHPLX-L¨ FWD: hp200lx for sale

We need a Collins Latin-English translator. Is this somehting about perputal
light ?

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nan-shan Chen Ýmailto:chen@GET.UNI-PADERBORN.DE¨
>Sent: None
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ FWD: hp200lx for sale
>
>
>>
>> > Will the last one out of the HP Palmtoppers forum please
>turn out the
>> > lights?
>>
>> Feel so sad hearing this...
>>
>> Rudi
>
>et lux, perpetua,
>  et lux perpetua luceat eis.
>    luceat eis
>            luceat eis
>                   luceat eis
>                            Kyrei ele-------ison ...
>
>Giuseppe Verdi
>
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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:54:49 -0800
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              Fryday 
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From:         Fryday 
Subject:      Re: Fluff:Windows CE questions...
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And you can't delete it either. Yesterday I was running out of memory constantly
after syncing with outlook (after transferring my *db from my LX) and trying to
run apps, so I tried to delete the file without success. All I could do it
syncronize with empty folders on outlook 2000. Veeeeery intuitive....

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: F. Kaufman 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: Fluff:Windows CE questions...


> > >> Second...is it possible to copy the tasks program and run it in a
separate
> > >> folder?  I'd like to keep the primary program in the Windows folder, but
> > >> have a copy of it in a separate folder so I can use it for different
types
> > >> of tasks.
> > >
> > >Not sure about this one either, but all of your database files are stored
> > >in a database sub-directory in the Windows directory.
> >
> > So presumably one can copy the file to another directory and have multiple
> > copies of these files containing different information?  I'll try it and
see.
>
> I believe that win-ce will only store the db files to the "internal"
> disk.  I'm not sure if the 3rd party db applications are more flexible
> but they may be.  You can only have one "phone" db.  You canNOT move it
> to a drive.  You can backup to a pcmcia drive but canNOT access it as
> such.
>
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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:06:05 -0500
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Hans Peter Staber 
Subject:      Re: Paradox dbase?
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Terrence Chun wrote:
>
> Is there some way to read a Paradox database file on the hp200lx using
> software which is readily available on SUPER or in the PIMs?

Export from Paradox to a comma delimiited text file and read it into
1-2-3 which has database functions.

Or maybe Paradox can export directly to 1-2-3


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:35:39 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff 
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF: DOS on CE or EPIC palmtops/Japanese
              HP200LXupgradeproject
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> Was there ever a 50mhz Libretto? I have a Libretto 50CT, which is
> 75mhz, that I still occasionally use, but I don't recall there ever
> being a 50mhz Libretto. Did I miss it? What is it worth?

The oldest one I'm aware of is the Libretto 20 which was
never released outside of Japan. It was powered by a 75 MHz
AMD 486 chip, backed up by a 270 MB HDD and 8 MB RAM.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:09:44 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" 
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> I recently acquired a 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II card to use
> with my 200LX.  It works well with that unit.  However, for some reason my
> HP320LX Windows CE unit will not recognize the card.  Is a special driver

Some older cards require too much power and don't work reliably in the
win-ce units.  And I doubt you will find any drivers that will help in
any event.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 16:15:26 -0800
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              A Meshar 
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From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: HiWAAY Script?
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> Does anyone have a script for WWW/LX that works with the ISP HiWAAY?

Last time I evaluated their services they were using CHAP -
about a year ago... Is there any other development?

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to:  support@dasoft.com
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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:50:20 -0600
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" 
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I am new to this list and was wondering where to get a package to sync my
lx200 and outlook 2000? Intellisync doesn't have anything.

Regards,

Tim Kelley
GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
713-432-2036

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:58:25 -0500
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:49:18 -0500 (EST)

Welcome Tim!

  Goto http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html. Search out "outlook", you
  will get a listing of 4(actually 5) solutions. I just switched to
  Outlook myself & downloaded Curtis Cameron's program, but I haven't
  run it yet.

  Cheers...AJKind

58m58s ago ...
On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Kelley, Timothy P wrote:

> I am new to this list and was wondering where to get a package to sync =
my
> lx200 and outlook 2000? Intellisync doesn't have anything.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim Kelley
> GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
> 713-432-2036
>
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*
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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:53:07 -0800
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              al chin 
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> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:37:42 +0800
> From: vfw2485 
> Subject: Feed the poor
>
>Quite clever of the UN to do this. Go to the Hunger Site
> at the UN. All you do is click a button and somewhere
> in the world some hungry person gets a meal to eat,
> at no cost to you. The food is paid
> for by corporate sponsors
>  who gain advertising in the process because you see
> their logo).
>  > >
>  > > All you do is go to the site and click. But you're
> only allowed one click per day.  So spread the word to
> others. Visit the site and pass the word.
>  > >
>  > > This actually is a genuine site and a great idea.
>  > >
>  > > http://www.thehungersite.com


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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:08:54 -0500
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> et lux, perpetua,
>   et lux perpetua luceat eis.
>     luceat eis
>             luceat eis
>                    luceat eis
>                             Kyrei ele-------ison ...

A man with music tastes after my own heart. Pity typed words can not
infer the change in tone between the last phrase and the prior phrases.
I happen to think that the confined structure of the Mass has
resulted in some of the best music ever composed.

For whomever asked the translation of the phrases is as follows:

et lux perpetua luceat eis. - and let perpetual light shine on them
Kyrie eleison - Lord have mercy on us.

GaryS

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 19:57:31 +1000
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From:         David Becher 
Subject:      Tfwin problems

Longden Loo writes:
>
> Finally got  Transfile 200 working for daily file transfers, tho currently, I'm
> using the Connectivity Pack. I switched to CPACK cuz I kept getting dropped
> connections with TF, especially on large files.

A while ago I upgraded to a new 64Mb CF card (thanks thaddeus!) and not having
any better way to transfer, copied all my files from my Win95 desktop to my
palmtop using TFWIN200. There was one file which consistently dropped the
connection. Larger (much larger) and smaller files all transferred ok. I
believe that there is a bug in TFwin which identifies a particular set of data
as an end of packet or something like that, and it drops the connection.
I didnt check it out at different speeds, but I did notice that the dropped
packet was at a consistent location in the file. I finally transferred the file
by zipping it and then transferring.


======================
David Becher
davidb@netmedia.net.il
davidb@cimatron.co.il
======================

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:45:22 -0500
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              Daniel Hertrich 
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Subject:      1st computers - QUESTION!
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Hi friends,

while you all are speaking about your first experiences with couputers
(BTW: very interesting!!!), I got the idea to ask YOU a question that I
asked many people before and nobody was able to answer:

I have an old part of a computer. My father-in-law gave it to me after
a big clean-up in his appartement.

Would you please be so kind and visit the URL

http://daniel.hplx.net/temp/index.html

to watch that part and maybe say me what it is?

Thanks a lot in advance
daniel

--

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:14:52 -0800
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From:         David M Peterson 
Subject:      Re: Question about using a Type II RAMcard
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There are two types of cards. The ones marked 12v work only in the 200lx
and some laptops. These are the a suffix cards. The newer b suffix cards
work in 200lx, laptops and CE machines. Note in my Omnibook 4000 an a and
a b card will not both work at the same time.

David Peterson

On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:13:12 -0600 David Ball  writes:
> I recently acquired a 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II card to
> use
> with my 200LX.  It works well with that unit.  However, for some
> reason my
> HP320LX Windows CE unit will not recognize the card.  Is a special
> driver
> required to use this type of RAM card on a CE handheld?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Regards,
>
> David Ball
> mailto:dmb10@swbell.net
>
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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:41:03 -0700
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              Bob Meyer 
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It does not appear to be that old! It looks like some like some heat sinks
on fairly dense surface mount chips. But what are the chips? I guessing
some sort of bucket brigade memory or signal processing array. But 11x11?
Maybe its a new kind of checkers. It certainly looks like one of a kind
experiment.

Bob

Daniel Hertrich wrote:

> Would you please be so kind and visit the URL
>
> http://daniel.hplx.net/temp/index.html
>
> to watch that part and maybe say me what it is?

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|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
+--------------------+-----------------+
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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:24:59 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill 
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From:         Martin Bergvill 
Subject:      Re: Still looking for a 200LX
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On 12 Jan 2000 06:59:18 -0800, Rick S  wrote:

> Greetings, list -
>
> I am still looking to buy a 200LX or 1000CX and have
> recently given up on Ebay.  I am relatively new at this.  Has it always
> been this difficult to find one?

I was downloading news on 31.december when I found a ad for a Hp200 for
sale in the alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp newsgroup. I mailed him at once..

I was the first one to mail him so I got it. Everybody else on the
internet was occupied with their life, but me, therefor I was the first
one to mail him :-))

I think you have to have a good portion luck to get one..


> Longden wrote:
>
> > But personally, if I had  an LX for sale, I'd sell within this list
> > group (as I know others have done) to friends who'd treasure every gram
> > of silicon.
>
> My sentiments exactly!  If anyone has a spare LX looking for a good
> home, I'd love to hear about it!

I would sell it here if I had one for sale..you will not find more
dedicated /loyal users of anything anywhere else.. I sold my Hp700 to a
member on this list..

Some members on this list have backupunits. Now I will be one of them.

After being without my hp while it was upgraded and the fear that my
main hp will die on me pushed me into getting a backupunit..

I hope things works out for you..

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-Palmtop friendly sig...

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:25:00 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill 
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On 12 Jan 2000 06:02:17 -0800, Bob Newins  wrote:

> I use the W2 command and it seems to work of me.  I set it
> up long ago on my Apex Data V.34 with ATT.  Don't remember
> how I did it.(G)  I usually get 24000, 26400, 28800.  Even
> got 51000 once.     =Bob=

I got 44400 with my Us Robotics V.90 modem. Now I have Isdn and I can
get a connect at 64000, but the hp does not support more than approx
20000 so it is of no use. But I run Www/lx on a laptop to take
advantage of the isdn speed..

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Date:         Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:08:00 -0800
Reply-To:     camba1@pacbell.net
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From:         BOB1 
Subject:      Re: Paradox dbase?
Comments: To: Terrence Chun 
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Terrence Chun wrote:
>
> Is there some way to read a Paradox database file on the hp200lx using
> software which is readily available on SUPER or in the PIMs?
>
> -- Terry
>
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Terry, you can run paradox 1.1 on a 5mb machine.

                          Bob

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:28:06 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." 
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX Connection Speed
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Martin,

> I got 44400 with my Us Robotics V.90 modem. Now I have Isdn and I can
> get a connect at 64000, but the hp does not support more than approx
> 20000 so it is of no use. But I run Www/lx on a laptop to take
> advantage of the isdn speed..

What type of PCMCIA ISDN hardware are you using in your hp200lx?

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:05:10 -0500
Reply-To:     Nicholas Chan 
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From:         Nicholas Chan 
Subject:      Off Topic : Omnibook 800CT
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I remember someone talking about some 2nd hand 80Meg Omnibook 800CT for sale,
does anyone know where can I get them?

PS. For that matter, is there a faster Omnibook at the same size with the popout mouse?

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:08:56 +0000
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              Robert Kawaratani 
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From:         Robert Kawaratani 
Subject:      PDA Keyboard Pro
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I picked up a PDA Keyboard Pro for the PalmPilot today at Wakamatsu in Tokyo
(the place for HP200lx users to go for hacker stuff). It works with the
Newton keyboard driver for the HP and the standard HP serial cable plugs
into the d-Sub 9 socket on the back of the keyboard. Anyway, so far it works
fine. Tested with memo, Lotus Agenda and Memo Express (Japanese exm editor).

There are some photographs of the keyboard at www.tecparts.ab.psiweb.com.
Click on the PDA Keyboard logo on the leftside of the screen. The page is in
Japanese so be prepared for unreadable characters.

The keyboard has a full set of keys and 6 function keys. Uses 3 AAA
batteries and is roughly the same size as a Newton keyboard. Its made in
Taiwan (surprise) and although it has a lousy touch, is clacky, etc., it
works fine and I can type at a pretty clip on it.

I paid 7980 yen plus sales tax (about $80 US). If you don't want to hackup a
cable and fuss with a soldering iron, on very limited experience, this looks
good.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:30:12 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." 
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX Connection Speed
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Martin,

> Here is a url for the special isdn phone I
> have which has a built in isdnadapter which
> has a regular rs232 connecter and two
> analog ports:

Thank you.

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:48:52 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Systems-Consulting 
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From:         Systems-Consulting 
Subject:      FS - 200LX Items
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Since the 200LX items are getting harder to find, I thought I would post
this:

New products in original packaging.

HP P/N  My P/N   Description                  Price
F1011A  974202   AC/DC ADAPTER FOR THE 200LX  36.00
F1021B  974206   200LX CONNECTIVITY PACK      99.00

These will be available until distributor's stock is depleted.

Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393
web: http://Systems-Consulting.com
Maximizing the results of Information Systems

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 05:07:21 PST
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              Tony Guzewicz 
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From:         Tony Guzewicz 
Subject:      ascii character/word 5.5
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Does anyone know who to generate ascii characters (French accented charac=
ters
specifically) using Word 5.5. IT says that you need to use the ALT and nu=
mber
lock keys but we know there is no number lock key.
TIA
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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:55:32 -0600
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              Jeff Johns 
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Hi gang! As many of you know I have been begging for a eBay client for a =
few
weeks, that's because I am selling a lot of stuff via eBay, well some of =
the
folks that are winning my auctions have started paying me using PayPal. =
It's
a service backed by Nokia, who will be implementing the technology into
their phones and other wireless devices, that basically allows you to =
email
someone money. It's pretty slick and I have had good luck with it. It's =
real
American dollars and they either mail you 'hard copy' checks or they
electronically deposit the funds in your bank account. The cool thing is
that it's free for both the buyer and seller. Anyways, here's the shameles=
s
plug part, right now they are giving members $10 for referrals and when =
the
referal signs-up the referral also receives $10. It's real money, not =
some
kind of 'hokey' online 'play money'. If you visit this link and sign-up
(it's free), I'll get $10 for each person and if you sign-up you'll get =
$10
also. Here's the link:

https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=3Djeffj@hiwaay.net

It really is a cool service and allows someone like me, a small time =
vendor,
to accept credit card payments from people and to also pay folks
electronically. Anyways, thanks for the bandwidth and please sign-up and =
use
me for a referral .

Jeff

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              Peniel Romanelli 
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Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:25:00 -0500 (EST)

01h17m39s ago ...
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Tony Guzewicz wrote:

> Does anyone know who to generate ascii characters (French accented =
characters
> specifically) using Word 5.5. IT says that you need to use the ALT and =
number
> lock keys but we know there is no number lock key.

Hi Tony-

Try this:

Hold down Alt & Menu, and type the high-ascii code.

Don't know for sure if this will work with Word 5.5, but it works in
other DOS apps in my 200LX.


HTH

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 09:37:01 -0500
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Hi friends,

to all who are involved or interested in our project to modify the IR
port of the LX that it works with cellular phones, please check the
updated page

daniel.hplx.net/hplxir/index.html

GTX
daniel

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Comments:     Originally-From: cwbrad@ibm.net
From:         "C.W. Bradley" 
Subject:      Re: dbf viewer

>>>> Posting number 19431, dated 11 Jan 2000 16:24:15
>Date:         Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:24:15 -0700
>Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
>              Terrence Chun 
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>Is there some way to read a Paradox database file on the hp200lx using
>software which is readily available on SUPER or in the PIMs?

Terry,

Lotus Magellan has a dbf viewer in addition to being a wonderful file
management program on the LX. If it is not on Super, it is a free ftp from
Lotus. You can set it up to go to and view a dbf with one keystroke using
F9.

Charles

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This gentleman won my HP Golf shirt on eBay and I thought that you =
guys/gals
would enjoy reading what he wrote to me in response to my letter.....

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From: mike_flaherty@hp.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:11:45 -0500
Subject: Re: Winning eBay Bid Item# 231755550 HP Golf Shirt
To: jeffj@scott.net

Hi Jeff,
Glad to here that you are such a big fan of the 200LX! I too love my
200LX and much prefer it over the new windows based models.
I have an interesting story about the 200LX that dates back to the early
90's - when all of the computer companies (Digital, IBM, etc)
were on the skids.  Lew Platt was very apologetically telling the
employees of the Corvallis division (calculators) that times
were tuff and that they would either sell of or close the calculator
division!  But not to worry, everyone would get a nice severance package,
job relocation benefits, etc.
In response to this threat, the employees created the new palmtop!

I'll have a money order ($10.70) in the mail by tomorrow morning (Friday,
14th)

Regards,
Mike

--- end of forwarded message ---


Jeff

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I have that problem with TFwin frequently, usually with large files,
but occationally with small ones.  I have got around the problem
by copying the file to another directory on my palmtop, or breaking
it into smaller ZIP files if that doesn't work.  I hope it's a
problem with just Tfwin, and not my COMM port or cable.

--Ted

On 12 Jan 00 19:57, David Becher wrote:
From: David Becher 

> Longden Loo writes:
> >
> > Finally got  Transfile 200 working for daily file transfers, tho currently, I'm
> > using the Connectivity Pack. I switched to CPACK cuz I kept getting dropped
> > connections with TF, especially on large files.
>
> A while ago I upgraded to a new 64Mb CF card (thanks thaddeus!) and
> not having any better way to transfer, copied all my files from my
> Win95 desktop to my palmtop using TFWIN200. There was one file which
> consistently dropped the connection. Larger (much larger) and
> smaller files all transferred ok. I believe that there is a bug in
> TFwin which identifies a particular set of data as an end of packet
> or something like that, and it drops the connection. I didnt check
> it out at different speeds, but I did notice that the dropped packet
> was at a consistent location in the file. I finally transferred the
> file by zipping it and then transferring.
>
>
> ======================
> David Becher
> davidb@netmedia.net.il
> davidb@cimatron.co.il
> ======================
>

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:02:16 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I'm inclined to agree with David Becher.  While large files had problems more
often, small files also occasionally failed ... and failures seemed to happen in
the same place.  This would seem to indicate a software bug, rather than a port
or cable problem.

OTOH, while Cpack fails on occasion, it usually gets it OK on a retry.

- Longden





Ted Peterson  on 01/13/2000 01:44:19 AM

Please respond to ted@nicar.org

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Re: Tfwin problems




I have that problem with TFwin frequently, usually with large files,
but occationally with small ones.  I have got around the problem
by copying the file to another directory on my palmtop, or breaking
it into smaller ZIP files if that doesn't work.  I hope it's a
problem with just Tfwin, and not my COMM port or cable.

--Ted

On 12 Jan 00 19:57, David Becher wrote:
>
> A while ago I upgraded to a new 64Mb CF card (thanks thaddeus!) and
> not having any better way to transfer, copied all my files from my
> Win95 desktop to my palmtop using TFWIN200. There was one file which
> consistently dropped the connection. Larger (much larger) and
> smaller files all transferred ok. I believe that there is a bug in
> TFwin which identifies a particular set of data as an end of packet
> or something like that, and it drops the connection. I didnt check
> it out at different speeds, but I did notice that the dropped packet
> was at a consistent location in the file. I finally transferred the
> file by zipping it and then transferring.

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              Andrew King 
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I don't have a REX yet but if I could synch it with the 200LX PIM
applications I'd definitely buy one

Andrew King
IIT Physics Chicago
312-567-3021
technology is the answer, what was the question?


Date:    Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:21:13 -0600
From:    Chris Lott 
Subject: REX Sync Project

Just want to take an unofficial poll of those interested in the
possibility of syncing their REX units with the PCMCIA slot...

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:34:33 -0600
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I ran the stacker install and now I have a lot of disk space but I don't get
the hp menu system, it just sits in dos.  What is the command to bring up
the hp menu?
Thanks
Regards,

Tim Kelley
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I've received a number of responses saying that folks would buy a
REX if they could use it in their 200LX.  With that in mind, where
and what models of REX's are still being sold?  Have any of you actually
tried to buy one recently?  Back in November, when I bought mine,
they were being discontinued by Office Depot.  I checked yesterday
and they don't even sell them anymore.  I read that Xircom now
owns them, and are marketing them as REX-3000 and REX-5000.  Does
anyone know if/where one can get a Xircom/REX unit these days?

-Chris


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              David Ness 
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IIRC in a long earlier discussion of this topic, research indicated that
while REX/HP200 exchange was possible technically, the software involved
was surprisingly complex, and would take a much greater effort than
would appear at (simple) first glance, as the data structures are
surprisingly complicated.

If I read history correctly, the REX proved to be a novelty of
surprisingly short attraction. I'd think twice before investing much
energy in something that proved to be such a dead end.

Andrew King wrote:
>
> I don't have a REX yet but if I could synch it with the 200LX PIM
> applications I'd definitely buy one
>
>
> Date:    Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:21:13 -0600
> From:    Chris Lott 
> Subject: REX Sync Project
>
> Just want to take an unofficial poll of those interested in the
> possibility of syncing their REX units with the PCMCIA slot...
>

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:40:05 -0800
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From DOS, type "100" or "200" to start application manager.

- Longden




"Kelley, Timothy P"  on 01/13/2000 10:34:33 AM

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Subject:  Problem




I ran the stacker install and now I have a lot of disk space but I don't get
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the hp menu?

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> IIRC in a long earlier discussion of this topic, research indicated that
> while REX/HP200 exchange was possible technically, the software involved
> was surprisingly complex, and would take a much greater effort than
> would appear at (simple) first glance, as the data structures are
> surprisingly complicated.
>
> If I read history correctly, the REX proved to be a novelty of
> surprisingly short attraction. I'd think twice before investing much
> energy in something that proved to be such a dead end.

That's interesting.  I've seen the data structure of the REX-3, as
some volunteers have decoded it and published it on the web.  I don't
see it as that complicated to deal with, from what I've seen so far.
But I have some simple goals - just completely overwriting the card
at first - not syncing it to begin with.

As for it's radid fall from popularity, I can't comment.  It meets
my needs, and I'm willing to continue working on a 200LX solution -
I haven't run into anything technical that scares me off, yet.

-Chris

p.s. Maybe you have heard comment relating to the serial
interface/protocol that is used with the docking station.  I briefly
reviewed that info, and it adds another layer of complexity to the
problem.  But there appear to be some already-coded solutions to that
end of the problem.  But that it isn't of much interest to me, because
I want to use the PCMCIA card of my 200LX, not lug around the docking
station.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:48:29 +0000
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:41:03 -0700, Bob Meyer wrote:

>It does not appear to be that old! It looks like some like some heat =
sinks
>on fairly dense surface mount chips. But what are the chips? I guessing
>some sort of bucket brigade memory or signal processing array. But =
11x11?
>Maybe its a new kind of checkers. It certainly looks like one of a kind
>experiment.

I'd hazard a guess that the 85XX numbers are date codes, which puts it at
1985 - getting on for 15 years old. I think the F logo is an old =
Fairchild
Semiconductor logo. I can't find anything of use on their web site, but =
I'd
hazard a guess they are memory chips. That sort of wiring was popular in
the eighties for short run production. The random-ish nature helps to
minimise cross-talk between the wires, and it will have been done on an
automatic machine. All-in-all, it looks quite state-of-the-art for the
time.

--=20
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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:52:46 -0500
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              dd diaz 
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My local experience is the same as yours, but they seem to be  selling on Ebay like hot potatoes.  The Rex 3 can be had cheap, but each time I try to bid on the Rex 5, prices go way up.  Many of the sellers  appear to be dealers, which is the same thing I noticed about the Palm auctions.  To me this means the Rex is not dead by a long stretch.

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: Chris Lott 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 13, 2000 6:39:58 PM GMT
Subject: Another REX Question


I've received a number of responses saying that folks would buy a
REX if they could use it in their 200LX.  With that in mind, where
and what models of REX's are still being sold?  Have any of you actually
tried to buy one recently?  Back in November, when I bought mine,
they were being discontinued by Office Depot.  I checked yesterday
and they don't even sell them anymore.  I read that Xircom now
owns them, and are marketing them as REX-3000 and REX-5000.  Does
anyone know if/where one can get a Xircom/REX unit these days?

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:03:49 PST
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              Tony Guzewicz 
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hi peniel
tried it and unfortunately no go.. even tried the little number lock prog=
ram
off the super site and no go too.
still trying
tony


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On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:55:32 -0600, Jeff Johns wrote:

>https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=3Djeffj@hiwaay.net

I'd love to help, it looks to be a great idea, but they don't deal =
outside
the USA yet :(

--=20
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              loic.sautour@WANADOO.FR
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From:         Loic Sautour 
Subject:      Re: ascii character/word 5.5
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> Does anyone know who to generate ascii characters (French
> accented characters
> specifically) using Word 5.5

I do a lot of French typing on a US 200 LX. To do the accentuated chracte=
rs
I do the following:
FN + R + letter to be accentuated (R being the key for "aigue" accent)

Here is an example applied to a E, you'll have:
FN + R then E : will give you =E9
FN + T then E : will give you =E8
FN + Y then E : will give you =EA
FN + R then E : will give you =EB

It also works on O, I and A, and FN+C will give you =E7.

Let me know if it is working for you, I use that all the time and I don't
recall having problem with Word 5.5 but I don't use this program anymore.=
 I
just tried it in a dos session without sysmgr loaded and it worked too.

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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> Does anyone know who to generate ascii characters (French
> accented characters
> specifically) using Word 5.5. IT says that you need to
> use the ALT and number
> lock keys but we know there is no number lock key.

There is a program on the Super site (www.palmtop.net) then emulates the
Numlock key.  I have not tried it for Word, but it might do what you =
need.

Steve Carder

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:55:14 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              John J Vanderstel 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         John J Vanderstel 
Subject:      Re: REX Sync Project

Hi Chris,

>Just want to take an unofficial poll of those interested in the
>possibility of syncing their REX units with the PCMCIA slot...
>Could you e-mail me back indicating which REX unit you have?
>I'm specifically interested in the memory capacity - it would
>seem that the 512K version has a somewhat different, and less
>well documented, data format than the 256K units.  I need to know
>which one is most prevalent amongst our group.

I've got the 256K REX-3.  It offers an easy way for users to check off
to-do items on the card, as they are completed.  REX-3's can be found on
store shelves, with docking stations included, for $50 now, and that's a
steal. :-)

I've played with both models.  The 512K model has one more button to
allow for some limited writing to the card, but the process is really
tedious and time consuming. In my opinion, the additional button and 256K
on the 512K model is way over priced.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

BTW, a minor class action suit has recently given REX users a free
TrueSync desktop software upgrade that offers a little more functionality
than before. :-)

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:05:54 -0500
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              dd diaz 
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Subject:      Re: ascii character/word 5.5
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Would you happen to know how to do the same with capital letters?
Also, I don't think this is french, but how do you do the same with n~ (The=
 letter n with a ~ on top, also caps)?

Your tip does work on Word 5.5.

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: Loic Sautour 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 13, 2000 10:29:59 PM GMT
Subject: Re: ascii character/word 5.5


> Does anyone know who to generate ascii characters (French
> accented characters
> specifically) using Word 5.5

I do a lot of French typing on a US 200 LX. To do the accentuated chracters
I do the following:
FN + R + letter to be accentuated (R being the key for "aigue" accent)

Here is an example applied to a E, you'll have:
FN + R then E : will give you =E9
FN + T then E : will give you =E8
FN + Y then E : will give you =EA
FN + R then E : will give you =EB

It also works on O, I and A, and FN+C will give you =E7.

Let me know if it is working for you, I use that all the time and I don't
recall having problem with Word 5.5 but I don't use this program anymore. I
just tried it in a dos session without sysmgr loaded and it worked too.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:20:19 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Russel Brooks 
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From:         Russel Brooks 
Subject:      Re: 1st computers - QUESTION!
Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich 
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> I have an old part of a computer. My father-in-law gave it to me after
> a big clean-up in his appartement.
>
> http://daniel.hplx.net/temp/index.html

I'll guess some sort of memory card if those black cylinders are
heatsinks.  I can't see them too well in the picture.  Are they solid
cans shapes or are they stacks of round plates with space between them?

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:27:28 -0800
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              loic.sautour@WANADOO.FR
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From:         Loic Sautour 
Subject:      Re: ascii character/word 5.5
Comments: To: dd diaz 
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> Would you happen to know how to do the same with capital letters?

It is the same rule but in using the shift key :
Example:
FN + R then SHIFT + E : will give you =E9 uppercase

> Also, I don't think this is french, but how do you do the same
> with n~ (The letter n with a ~ on top, also caps)?

Try FN + N or FN + I then N. This one did not work in uppercase on my 200=
 LX
(BTW, for sure it is not used in French).

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:54:41 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff 
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> Does anyone know who to generate ascii characters (French accented characters
> specifically) using Word 5.5. IT says that you need to use the ALT and number
> lock keys but we know there is no number lock key.

It should be ALT + Menu + Ýnumber¨, as was suggested in the
previous answer. Are you remembering to include the 0 at the
beginning of the number?

On a vaguely similar note, under Software Carousel, if
you're in a work area other than #1, pressing the Fn-key +
one of the blue application keys doesn't give you the
associated symbol. Instead, it switches to WA #1 and loads
up the application. Anyone know of a fix or a way round
this?

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:06:01 -0600
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" 
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From:         "Kelley, Timothy P" 
Subject:      Re: Outlook2000
Comments: To: "MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu" 
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I downloaded it but I haven't been able to get it to work.  It seems there
is no way to point it to the folder where the outlook pst files are.
If any one has been able to get it to work please let me know the tricks.
Thanks
Regards,

Tim Kelley
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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:29:26 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              A Meshar 
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From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: FWD: hp200lx for sale
Comments: To: Tom Salwasser 
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Hi Tom:

It is with sadness I read messages like those from Jim. I
hope that he comes back after he tastes the desert out
there! We'll most likely be all still here! :)

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:29:23 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              A Meshar 
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From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX Connection Speed
Comments: To: Jeff Johns 
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Jeff,

> Thanks everyone for the info on the connection speed with WWW/LX. I've
> got
> it working like a charm now!

So share! What did you do to make it work? It is probably
useful to all to know how you fixed it. Others will
benefit!

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:28:51 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Bob Christopher 
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From:         Bob Christopher 
Subject:      Re: Outlook2000
Comments: To: "Kelley, Timothy P" 
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I just went through this at work, on seven workstations and a server, all of
which were upgraded to MS Office 2000. Outlook 2000 is an unfortunate
example of the Microsoft folks losing sight of downward compatibility and
user upgrading. The program acts as if it is a first time installation of a
brand
new product for which no one could possibly have data for yet.

To get it to work do the following: Locate your old Outlook PST file, usually
either in MyDocuments or in the ProgramFiles\MicrosoftOffice\Office\Templates
subdirectory. If you can't locate it, go to Start - Find - FilesAndFolders
Type in *.pst and set the directory search to C:\. Once you've found the
file, go into Explore and copy it to a floppy disk. If the file size is too
big
(over 1.44mb) then rename the file something like BACKUP2.PST.

Once you've taken care of the housekeeping chore of file location and
naming convention, open up Outlook 2000. Go to File, Import/Export,
select Import pst file, either browse to the file location or type in the
path.

WARNING: Be careful with the import. I found it is more stable and
successful to import each element separately, ie the Contacts, Calendar,
etc. The good thing is that 2000 does not overwrite or otherwise jeopardize
your old data (ie backup2.pst) file in any way. Good luck.

Bob Christopher

At 19:06 01/13/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>I downloaded it but I haven't been able to get it to work.  It seems there
>is no way to point it to the folder where the outlook pst files are.
>If any one has been able to get it to work please let me know the tricks.
>Thanks
>Regards,
>
>Tim Kelley
>GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
>713-432-2036
>
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  Bob

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:18:26 -0600
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              Jeff 
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From:         Jeff 
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX Connection Speed
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> So share! What did you do to make it work? It is probably
> useful to all to know how you fixed it. Others will
> benefit!

I simply added W2 like this in the www part of setup inside POST (the
section where you set the different numbers to toggle through). My home
line now looks like this:

atw2dt*70,8792282

Now when the modem negotiation stops, the actual connection speed is
displayed.

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:02:57 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Bob Christopher 
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From:         Bob Christopher 
Subject:      Re: dbf viewer
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Most versions of Paradox have an export or file save feature that allows
you to save the file in standard dbase .dbf file format. There are many
freeware dbf viewers available - see the DOS\database section of Simtel
http://oak.oakland.edu/simtel.net/msdos/index-msdos-pre.html
and search for viewers.


  Bob

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:15:23 CST
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              Larry N Zimmerman 
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman 
Subject:      OT - Keyboard Adapter

I'm flirting with the dark side and have purchased a Palm IIIx (after
giving up on Handspring ever getting their act together).

Someone here mentioned a device that allows text entry using any
full-size keyboard.  Could the owner of that device point me to the
website where you purchased it?  Also, do you know where to get the PDF
read for PalmOS?

Sorry for the OT post.

Larry Zimmerman
(still a daily user of my 200lx)

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:31:23 -0600
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" 
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I think if you go to palm.com you might find it there.  It seems to me that
I ran into it there while looking for a converter for outlook.

Btw what is wrong with handspring?  Some people at work were looking at it.

Regards,

Tim Kelley
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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:31:41 -0700
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              Bob Meyer 
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Does anyone know the charge characteristics of the LX's built in charger
with 12VDC input? Current vs time, etc.

Bob

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:00:24 +0600
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              David Ball 
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Subject:      Fluff: Availability of hp360LXs
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What are the differences between the 320LX and the HP360LX?  And more importantly, does anyone know of an online site which sells these units

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:00:29 +0600
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              David Ball 
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From:         David Ball 
Subject:      Question about FFDB
MIME-version: 1.0

In a previous message, you said...
 >I stopped work on FFDB for a while as I had run into some brick walls in
tracking down some bugs. I will probably start back into it now that I have
done everything that I want to do to ccLXPOP.<

Now what exactly is FFDB, and what does it do?

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:00:34 +0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              David Ball 
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Subject:      Fluff: More CE Questions
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You stated in a previous message that:

>I believe that win-ce will only store the db files to the "internal"
disk.  I'm not sure if the 3rd party db applications are more flexible
but they may be.  You can only have one "phone" db.  You canNOT move it
to a drive.  You can backup to a pcmcia drive but canNOT access it as
such.<

Well, this is quite limiting.  I'm looking for a utility that will allow one to delete some of these applications from the RAM portion of the memory.  Do you know of any such utilities?




Regards,
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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:01:21 +0600
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              David Ball 
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From:         David Ball 
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In a previous message, you stated that...

>>Some older cards require too much power and don't work reliably in the
win-ce units.  And I doubt you will find any drivers that will help in
any event.<<

Hmm.  Ah well, at least the card works great in the 200LX.  Thanks for the information.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:01:27 +0600
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              David Ball 
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In a previous message, David Peterson stated that...
>>There are two types of cards. The ones marked 12v work only in the 200lx
and some laptops. These are the a suffix cards. The newer b suffix cards
work in 200lx, laptops and CE machines. Note in my Omnibook 4000 an a and
a b card will not both work at the same time.<<

Ahhh.  Now that explains the difference.  Thanks for the clear reply...I will look for the b suffix cards for my 320LX.




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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 21:10:44 -0800
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From:         Conrad Cox 
Organization: SF-MUG
Subject:      Re: HINGE CRACKING
Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" 
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Alan, I have one of these little cracks and was beginning to
think about solutions. This is a good solution. Thanks.

Conrad Cox

>For a quick pointer to a version of the 'brass enhancement' done
by another
user, see http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/hpcrack.htm.<

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Date:         Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:19:47 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--13CPAO" 
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--13CPAO" 
Subject:      Re: OT - Keyboard Adapter
Comments: To: Larry N Zimmerman 

Hi Larry; everyone,

Is there a way to use an LX as a keyboard for a PalmOS device? (specifically
the visor, for my own, greedy reasons ... below)

Larry said:

>I'm flirting with the dark side and have purchased a Palm IIIx (after
>giving up on Handspring ever getting their act together).



Another "dark flirter" here ÝI've been tinkering for few days w/ a
Handspring Visor¨ ... did you mean they didn't have their act together in
the fact that they take more than two months to ship?!?  So far that's the
only problem; though, one of their customer service folks said that if my
reorder (to fix things) eventually gets me two Visors, their customer
service policy is that you get the second ("unasked" for) arrival for
free(!).  >

I won't give up my LX -- the instant Outlook synch w/ the Visor Ýor a Palm¨
is AWESOME, but it's not a computer.  If folks want, I can do a few OT posts
about what I *do* like about it.

I like it, but I can't do nearly as fast a look-up of the things I need to
work on, can't enter data as fast (can't type on it), can't work w/
spreadsheets Ýmay be able to read them w/ extra software¨ and there's no
good, built in database or; well the list of "can'ts" is incredible.  I need
to apply the "duct-tape solution" (tape it to my 200LX to have all I
want....).

Waiting for my 200LX to come back from Warr. repair ... getting worried - it
supposedly shipped back to me on the 6th (nervous that there might be a
greedy UPS guy out there ).

Speaking of External Keyboards/adapters (if the LX can be used as a keyboard
for a Visor); the Visor has the (interface) advantage of using a USB-based
synch-cradle BUT that's a disadvantage when trying to work w/ the LX, no?

There is also a Serial base, that I'm using now w/ my laptop, as I type this
.... VERY slow synching --- I get LIGHTNING fast synch, including email
messages from Outlook, on my Office computer's USB port.

There is supposed to be a COOL, folding KB for the Visor, soon. We'll see...
I lost the website, but entered an email address for them to notify me when
they actually make one ÝMANY Visor products have wonderful pictures on the
website ÝPlug in MP3-playing modules, etc.¨ that still don't exist :-(

I'll browse next to the Adobe site; but, if you find a PalmOS, PDF writer
first, please let me know!!

--tim

PS. Need I mention that I'm fully embedded/entrenched in the "*computer* in
your pocket" fan club? ;-)



CPT Tim Raymond
13th Corps Support Command Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX
W: 254-287-8872 DSN 737-xxxx
Cell: 254-289-6346
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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 02:36:14 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Harry Wellner 
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From:         Harry Wellner 
Subject:      Re: Paradox dbase?
Comments: To: Terrence Chun 
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Terry,

> Is there some way to read a Paradox database file on the hp200lx using
> software which is readily available on SUPER or in the PIMs?

I know someone who is doing the "conversion" on Windows with
a self-made tool - not HPLX environment but still.....

__________________________________________
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   _.>/)_     Gouda - Netherlands / Europe
  (_) \(_)

Palmtop Power!--This email composed on a rugged HP200LX that
fits in your pocket!

Med vennlig hilsen / Regards /
        Mit freundlichen Gruessen /
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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:50:20 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Martin Bergvill 
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From:         Martin Bergvill 
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Shameless Plug
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On 13 Jan 2000 14:23:03 -0800, Neil Tungate  wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:55:32 -0600, Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> >https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=jeffj@hiwaay.net
>
> I'd love to help, it looks to be a great idea, but they don't deal outside
> the USA yet :(

Me too, but I have to wait until they launch this for Europe. I buy
stuff from the US from time to time and this is ideal for me. Now I can
buy stuff from Ebay and have a fast way to transfer money. They will
also test their wap site in Hannover in the end of february.

I got this mail from their customer support just a few hours after I
mailed them:

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From: "Jack Selby" 
To: "Martin Bergvill" 
Subject: RE: Contact me when you can offer Paypal to me in Norway..
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:49:57 -0800

Thanks for your interest in Confinity and our PayPal service.

We currently only offer our service in the United States, but we are in the
process of launching our service internationally in the months to come.  I
will notify you of the release via email.

If you have any other questions in regard to our service, please feel free
to contact me at your convenience.


Regards,

Jack R. Selby
Director of Strategic Relations
Confinity, Inc.
165 University Avenue
Palo Alto, CA  94301
Tel: 650.330.4608
Fax: 650.566.3646
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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:50:22 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Martin Bergvill 
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From:         Martin Bergvill 
Subject:      Re: REX project, I'm interested
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On 13 Jan 2000 11:38:12 -0800, Chris Lott  wrote:

> But I have some simple goals - just completely overwriting the card
> at first - not syncing it to begin with.

I have surfed around to look at the Rex. It is very interesting. A very
cheap way to carry your most importent info when you do not want to
carry a Hplx.

I am interested in the same goal. Just to completly overwrite the card
when I want to use it. I will buy one if this becomes possible. The Rex
3 is possible to get at about $30 I think in the US.

What info can you transfer to the Rex? Their are some limitations
are'nt there? I would like a Rex3 256kb version. I would like to
transfer my phonebook/appointments/todos/notebooks to a Rex 3.

The Rex Memo applications looks like the Hplx Notebook applications.
Will you be able to transfer this to the Rex?

Can you transfer all the fields from the Phonebook, or are their only some
fields that you can transfer?

I am reading this thread with great interest.

TIA

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Avi wrote:
>
> It is with sadness I read messages like those from Jim. I
> hope that he comes back after he tastes the desert out
> there! We'll most likely be all still here! :)


Jim was little too theatrical for my taste.

Personally I am the very obstinate type so I guess I will be here until =
that bug 2038 

See you Avi in old people's home! 

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:31:04 -0600
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Subject:      Re: REX project, I'm interested
In-Reply-To:  <200001140850.JAA28269@golf.dax.net> from "Martin Bergvill" at
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> What info can you transfer to the Rex? Their are some limitations
> are'nt there? I would like a Rex3 256kb version. I would like to
> transfer my phonebook/appointments/todos/notebooks to a Rex 3.
>
> The Rex Memo applications looks like the Hplx Notebook applications.
> Will you be able to transfer this to the Rex?

That is the idea.

> Can you transfer all the fields from the Phonebook, or are their only some
> fields that you can transfer?

There are some different fields, but I believe there is a place for
everything.  Even e-mail.

And let me make clear that this capability is already available with
Curtis Cameron's Outlook to 200LX sync program.  I have been updating
my REX from my palmtop data for several months using this circuitous
path:  Paltop -> Outlook via OL2LX, Outlook -> REX via Rex Software.
So there's no need to wait for those of you wanting just the overwrite
capability.

-Chris

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 07:34:24 -0600
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              Jeff Johns 
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:50:20 +0100, Martin Bergvill =
 wrote:

> Me too, but I have to wait until they launch this for Europe. I buy
> stuff from the US from time to time and this is ideal for me. Now I can
> buy stuff from Ebay and have a fast way to transfer money. They will
> also test their wap site in Hannover in the end of february.

You really enjoy their service when it's up and running. It makes life a =
lot
easier for auctions plus you can email friends money .

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:40:00 -0500
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> I ran the stacker install and now I have a lot of disk space but I =
don't get
> the hp menu system, it just sits in dos.  What is the command to bring =
up
> the hp menu?

You have probably got your autoexec.bat file in the wrong place.  Your =
palmtop
normally boots from the card if one is inserted, but Stacker complicates =
the
process.  Try this:

Pull out the card and reboot with it out of the palmtop.  Now put the =
card in
and look at it with Filer.  You should see a few stacker files and a =
config.sys
file.  If there is an autoexec.bat file too, move it to your internal C:\
drive.  Now reboot with the card in the palmtop.  This should load =
Stacker.
Now type 100 and press Enter at the DOS prompt.  The "100" will start =
System
Manager.  Use Filer to look at the card again.  Now you should see a =
large
amount of space but you won't see the Stacker files and config.sys you =
had
before.  Copy the autoexec.bat file to this A:\ drive.  You can copy the
autoexec.bat file from the ROM D:\ drive if you don't have another one.  =
Now
reboot again and System Manager should start automatically.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 06:49:22 -0700
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              RMCI 
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Just thought I would kick this in.

If you go to shopper.com and plug in REX. You get 3 items (today).  They
range from $28.-150.USD.

It looks like Franklin bought the business from Rolodex.  I am not sure of
sales beyond that.

I use shopper.com for all my computer hunting.  I seems to give the best
results for hard to find and common search items.

MH

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 05:55:03 PST
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              Tony Guzewicz 
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I tried AIt ALT + Menu + Ýnumber¨, as was suggested in the
previous answer and have included the 0 at the beginning of the number bu=
t I
still don't get the ascii codes. My ALT key keeps activating the menu. Wh=
at am
I doing wrong or is there a way to change the ALT key from activating men=
u
selections.
TIA
Tony



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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:03:05 CST
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              Larry N Zimmerman 
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Subject:      Re: OT - Keyboard Adapter

My big problem with Handspring has been the lengthy delays in shipping.
My second problem is the widespread 'hype' for devices to fit the
springboard which do not exist.

I tried to get one because of the USB synch, the 8Meg memory, and the
price.  It is still on order as I've never been able to reach a human to
cancel the order.

I finally chose the Palm IIIx 'cause I found it for $199 and am going to
add a TRG board to make it 8Meg.  The advantages I see is that there are
lots of add-on hardware devices and accessories for the Palm IIIx which
DO exist plus, with the PalmOS 3.3 upgrade you get IR synch (better even
than USB for my wants).  It is also more upgradeable and, I hear, has a
much better backlight than the Visors.

The best Palm is probably the TRGPro for about $400.  It is the Palm IIIx
body with 8Meg and a Compact Flash slot.  That is probably a wiser
direction to go than the proprietary springboard modules.  We'll see how
it shakes out though.

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:20:31 CST
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              Larry N Zimmerman 
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From:         Larry N Zimmerman 
Subject:      Re: OT - Keyboard Adapter

The PDF viewer for Palm will appear at www.ansyr.com.

Right now, they have a "pre-release" version for WinCE you may purchase
for $9.95.  It allows you to view and navigate PDF documents similar to
AcroReader.

They'll support PalmOS and have the full commercial product out in 1Q
2000 (believe it when you see it).

EPOC has a freeware solution in the works.  Still in alpha.  Search
tucows.com for PDF and you'll find it.

My understanding is that the 200lx will probably never get a similar
program because of the graphics capability of the screen.  Is that
correct?  Too bad.

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:22:55 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli 
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Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:25:34 -0500 (EST)

09h52m52s ago ...
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Bob Meyer wrote:

> Does anyone know the charge characteristics of the LX's built in =
charger
> with 12VDC input? Current vs time, etc.

The built-in charger feeds the batteries 100mA for the first 6 hours,
then drops the rate to 40 mA (indefinitely).  There are some charge
control programs that add some intelligence to the system.  They
monitor the battery voltage and can terminate charge either at a time
limit, maximum voltage, or the time the battery voltage stops rising.

D&A has a fine commercial product called ABC/LX - a trial version is
(or used to be) available on their site:
http://www.dasoft.com

There's also a freeware program called Charge-It! (by yours truly) on
SUPER.
http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
Do a search for the program name, or just "battery", and you should
find it.


HTH

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:35:07 -0500
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              Jon Barrett 
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>
> Date:    Wed, 12 Jan 2000 15:26:59 +0100
> From:    Jez Cunningham 
> Subject: FLUFF: How many hplx mail-list subscribers to change a bulb?
>
> Apologies if you've seen this (or similar) before but I couldn't
resist
> sharing my daily chuckle...
>
> Q:  How many hplx mail-list subscribers does it take to change a
> light bulb?
>
>
> A:  1,331.   1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list
> that the light bulb has been changed, and then...
>
> 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
> light bulb could have been changed differently.
>

you forgot the 63 blaming it on WinCE specifically . . .

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net

Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:17:17 -0500
To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
From: dsciro@usvo.com (Dan Sciro)
Subject: HELP!!!!!!

Hi,

I have been frantically searching the web and talking to HP tech
support all day. I have 5+ years of data with over 800 very important
contacts. I recently did a backup but the drive that I backed up the
information on crashed several weeks ago and we sent it out for data
recovery, but no success. In the process it did not even dawn on me
that I should do another monthly back up. I have worked on many
Government jobs and the information is CRITICAL that I retrieve it. I
believe since the backup battery has not been removed that the data
is still in memory. I am trying to find a VERY CREDITABLE company
that employees electrical engineers that specialize in data recover
for the HP LX200. Someone who can dive in at the chip level if
necessary and retrieve the information. PLEASE, PLEASE HELP!!!!! You
can e-mail me or phone me at 800-625-2200 or 888-906-0001. Thank you
in advance for searching your brain and database for this contact or
a direction.





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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:08:23 -0500
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              Jon Barrett 
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>
> Date:    Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:05:10 -0500
> From:    Nicholas Chan 
> Subject: Off Topic : Omnibook 800CT
>
> I remember someone talking about some 2nd hand 80Meg Omnibook 800CT for
sale,
> does anyone know where can I get them?
>
> PS. For that matter, is there a faster Omnibook at the same size with the
popout mouse?
>
Sorry - the 800CT is the last of the classic Omnibooks, peaking out at
P5/166. Might try the usual suspects (e-bay, etc.), or the Omnibook list
(omni-req@elektro.cmhnet.org to subscribe) occasionally has mention of
Onibooks for sale.

The OB900 doesn't have a pop-out mouse (bad move!) but *does* have a PS/2
port, and I've seen small mice in Office Depot for chump change. Fastest to
date is 500 MHz PIII. The change from the Paw *does* let them reduce the
thickness a bit.

Jon

Jon Barrett
jonzann@altavista.net
Adjusting to the shock of Isopoint/Glidepad on
500MHz Omnibook 900B and NT4
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Well, this is quite limiting.  I'm looking for a utility that will allow one to delete some of these applications from the RAM portion of the memory.  Do you know of any such utilities?

You might want to try the various win-ce, palmtop newsgroups for info.
I don't recall the names of specific programs or sites.

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<>

I just tried and on the desktop, and while Alt brings up the menu, the
high ascii does appear using the real numeric keypad.

It did NOT work on my hp just now.  I don't know if anyone has it
working on the HP or if maybe something like Buddy interacts?????  MS
was always a little different.

Something else to try, would be to create or copy a file with all of the
characters and copy and paste them into your document - tedious but a
work-around.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:19:22 -0600
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              Andrew King 
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Subject:      Anyone using a Deskjet 340 with IR?
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I just got a HP deskjet 340 with the IR adaptor but have not succeeded in
getting my 200LX to recognize it. Do I need to install the printer IR
driver or will one of the built in drivers work?

Thanks

Andrew King
IIT Physics Chicago
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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:01:03 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              "Striegel, Alan" 
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Digital did make a portable version of the DECtalk speech synthesizer.  It
was called the DECtalk Express and had the part number DTC08-AA.  You can
find lots of details on the product at the following page:
http://www.digital.com/info/CU002M/.  In short, it's a unit a little bigger
than our favorite palmtops (measures 3.6 x 7.6 x 1.3 inches) that weighs 15
ounces, including battery.  The interface is serial line and it has a 1/8
inch stereo headphone jack output.  There's even DOS software for it.

Since Digital became a part of Compaq, I don't know if they still offer the
DTC08-AA, but it might be worth asking about it, if you want one.  The web
page states it was last updated in June of 1994(!)

My company (Pioneer-Standard Electronics, Inc.) sold the Digital Equipment
products and still sells everything Compaq.  When I did an inventory check,
we still showed one DTC08-AA in stock, but the price hasn't been adjusted to
realistic levels.  We show a list price of US$ 1195.00 for this item.

Alan

>From: Nan-shan Chen Ýmailto:chen@GET.UNI-PADERBORN.DE¨
>...
>Somebody have more experiences with producing sounds on our plamtops?
>I'm still longing for a text-to-speech possibility on my palmtop
>sooo muuuch. I'll expect an stand-alone, active serial device with
>a Ýline out¨. Better driven by usual batteries like our palmtop.
>
>I've heard the Digital "Dec Talk" many, many, many years ago in Taiwan.
>And it produced very natural speech (English, man, woman, child, ...)
>but was quite bulky (about the size of a printer).  After so many, many,
>many years, such an device of the size of our palmtop or even smaller
>should have been possible for a long time.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:27:53 -0600
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              Andrew King 
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Subject:      FLUFF the REX is dead, long live the REX
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Now that the REX is discontinued I can consider buying one if only to have
a tiny computer inside my tiny palmtop.... Sort of like the UPS commercial
where a big truck comes out of a bigger plane then smaller truck comes out
of the bigger truck then motorbike comes out of the smaller truck....

I would be quite content being able to write to the REX (not synch).
From what I understand entering data into the REX is a pain anyway, the
no-keyboard thing.....

Andrew King
IIT Physics Chicago
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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:23:18 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              "Striegel, Alan" 
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Some more details:  The DECtalk Express is still being offered for sale by
another company - Smart Modular Technologies, Inc.  They bought the business
from Digital.  And their price is still the same as I stated - US$ 1195.
Only the part number is different - DTC08-AB.  There are even German and
Spanish variants.

Check this page for details:
http://www.smartmodulartech.com/systems/products/dectalk/dtproducts.htm.

Alan

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:26:51 -0700
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              John Severance 
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> I have an old part of a computer. My father-in-law gave it to me after
> a big clean-up in his appartement.
>
> http://daniel.hplx.net/temp/index.html

I recognize the black finned heat-sink towers from when I worked for
Amdahl in the early 1980s.  Amdahl sold IBM 370 System-compatible
computers which were entirely air-cooled.  The architecture and design
of the systems was done by Amdahl, but the implementation utilized
Fujitsu wafer and packaging technology.  As I recall, Fujitsu sold the
Amdahl systems and their own variants outside of the United States.

From the layout of the board, I'd say it is a memory module.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:42:25 -0800
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From:         Donald Collins 
Subject:      Re: dbf viewer

What is the minimum install for Magellan?

C.W. Bradley writes:
>
> Lotus Magellan has a dbf viewer in addition to being a wonderful file
> management program on the LX. If it is not on Super, it is a free ftp from
> Lotus. You can set it up to go to and view a dbf with one keystroke using
> F9.
>





Don.
Folsom, California

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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Dan,

I sympathize with anyone's data loss problem, but it's not clear to me from
reading the note exactly what that problem is.

The disk drive containing data backups of the 200LX is evidently hosed, and it
appears you need to access data from your 200LX, but failed to explain why you
can't do so.  The solution may depend on the symptoms you need to describe.  Is
the 200LX dead?  Or did you accidentally delete the data?  Is the data on a
flash card, SRAM card or internal memory?  Without knowing the all the details,
no one can responsibly propose a solution.

- Longden





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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:17:17 -0500
To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
From: dsciro@usvo.com (Dan Sciro)
Subject: HELP!!!!!!

Hi,

I have been frantically searching the web and talking to HP tech
support all day. I have 5+ years of data with over 800 very important
contacts. I recently did a backup but the drive that I backed up the
information on crashed several weeks ago and we sent it out for data
recovery, but no success. In the process it did not even dawn on me
that I should do another monthly back up. I have worked on many
Government jobs and the information is CRITICAL that I retrieve it. I
believe since the backup battery has not been removed that the data
is still in memory. I am trying to find a VERY CREDITABLE company
that employees electrical engineers that specialize in data recover
for the HP LX200. Someone who can dive in at the chip level if
necessary and retrieve the information. PLEASE, PLEASE HELP!!!!! You
can e-mail me or phone me at 800-625-2200 or 888-906-0001. Thank you
in advance for searching your brain and database for this contact or
a direction.





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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:53:56 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Fryday 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Fryday 
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Not free, but also check www.iescrow.com IMHO, unless you know the seller, this
is a much safer approach!

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Martin Bergvill 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: FLUFF: Shameless Plug


> On 13 Jan 2000 14:23:03 -0800, Neil Tungate  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:55:32 -0600, Jeff Johns wrote:
> >
> > >https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=jeffj@hiwaay.net
> >
> > I'd love to help, it looks to be a great idea, but they don't deal outside
> > the USA yet :(
>
> Me too, but I have to wait until they launch this for Europe. I buy
> stuff from the US from time to time and this is ideal for me. Now I can
> buy stuff from Ebay and have a fast way to transfer money. They will
> also test their wap site in Hannover in the end of february.
>
> I got this mail from their customer support just a few hours after I
> mailed them:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jack Selby" 
> To: "Martin Bergvill" 
> Subject: RE: Contact me when you can offer Paypal to me in Norway..
> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 16:49:57 -0800
>
> Thanks for your interest in Confinity and our PayPal service.
>
> We currently only offer our service in the United States, but we are in the
> process of launching our service internationally in the months to come.  I
> will notify you of the release via email.
>
> If you have any other questions in regard to our service, please feel free
> to contact me at your convenience.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jack R. Selby
> Director of Strategic Relations
> Confinity, Inc.
> 165 University Avenue
> Palo Alto, CA  94301
> Tel: 650.330.4608
> Fax: 650.566.3646
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:53:56 -0800, Fryday  wrote:

> Not free, but also check www.iescrow.com IMHO, unless you know the =
seller, this
> is a much safer approach!

Escrow house seriously slow down the shipping of merchandise and the =
getting
paid for the merchandise. As long is the item is less than $1000 I can't
imagine using an escrow service. If you pay by credit card you can always
dispute the charge on your card if you aren't satisfied with the
merchandise. Just my $0.02 .

Jeff

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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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From:         Al Kind 
Subject:      Re: Anyone using a Deskjet 340 with IR?
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Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:15:10 -0500 (EST)

Yes, you need the IrDA drivers...see SUPER. There is one for SysMan
apps(IRDA097) and one for DOS(IRJETEYE).

Cheers...AJKind

01h43m05s ago ...
On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, Andrew King wrote:

> I just got a HP deskjet 340 with the IR adaptor but have not succeeded =
in
> getting my 200LX to recognize it. Do I need to install the printer IR
> driver or will one of the built in drivers work?
>
> Thanks

*
* Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
* Phone:(860)486-6126  EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX**

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From:         Chris Lott 
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> Now that the REX is discontinued

I don't think that is the case.  I would appeat that Xircom has
bought the REX, and is marketing it under the name REX-3000 and
REX-5000, which are equivalent to the Rex 3 and Rex 5.  I haven't
actually seen one at a store, only on their website.  But apparently
they have are sold at retail electronic store, just not in Huntsville.

-Chris

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:24:15 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Fryday 
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From:         Fryday 
Subject:      Memory transplant from a 200LX DS 5MB to 200LX 2MB
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To the doublespeed experts:

What's involved in transplanting the memory/doublespeed from my 200LX DS 5MB to
my 200LX 2MB.

It's just that the 200LX 2MB is almost bran new with perfect latch and no hinge
crack and no scratches...

Any ideas? If it's pretty simple, I'd like to do it myself. If it's harder and
not too expensive, I could send it to one of you...

Philippe

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:32:47 -0800
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              Fryday 
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Comments: To: Jeff Johns 
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Good point. Problem is, most of the time you pay for stuff on Ebay you
don't/can't use a credit card. The way they've set it up, except for the
inspection period, it looks like it would take just as long as waiting for a
check to clear...

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Johns 
To: HPLX Mailing List ; Fryday 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: FLUFF: Shameless Plug


On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:53:56 -0800, Fryday  wrote:

> Not free, but also check www.iescrow.com IMHO, unless you know the seller,
this
> is a much safer approach!

Escrow house seriously slow down the shipping of merchandise and the getting
paid for the merchandise. As long is the item is less than $1000 I can't
imagine using an escrow service. If you pay by credit card you can always
dispute the charge on your card if you aren't satisfied with the
merchandise. Just my $0.02 .

Jeff

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:32:47 -0800, Fryday  wrote:

> Good point. Problem is, most of the time you pay for stuff on Ebay you
> don't/can't use a credit card. The way they've set it up, except for =
the
> inspection period, it looks like it would take just as long as waiting =
for a
> check to clear...

True, but now that I can take credit cards via PayPal the customer could
dispute it if necessary and since they are paying by credit card the item
ships immediately. On a related note PayPal syas the do 163 bit encryption
on the Palm devices, is the LX capable of doing this level of encryption?

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:37:03 -0500
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              dd diaz 
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From:         dd diaz 
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Thanks.  It works perfectly for me, even the part you said
did not work for you.

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: Loic Sautour 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 13, 2000 11:27:28 PM GMT
Subject: Re: ascii character/word 5.5


> Would you happen to know how to do the same with capital
letters?

It is the same rule but in using the shift key :
Example:
FN + R then SHIFT + E : will give you =E9 uppercase

> Also, I don't think this is french, but how do you do the
same
> with n~ (The letter n with a ~ on top, also caps)?

Try FN + N or FN + I then N. This one did not work in
uppercase on my 200 LX
(BTW, for sure it is not used in French).

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              ARTURO BELTRAN 
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From:         ARTURO BELTRAN 
Subject:      Re: Memory transplant from a 200LX DS 5MB to 200LX 2MB
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Hi Philippe

Could you be so kind to tell me the process to do that..
for example technical data and especification....

I4d like to try it. please send me the information at this address
arturo_beltran@yahoo.com

Thank you.....


>From: Fryday 
>Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List ,              Fryday
>
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Memory transplant from a 200LX DS 5MB to 200LX 2MB
>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:24:15 -0800
>
>To the doublespeed experts:
>
>What's involved in transplanting the memory/doublespeed from my 200LX DS
>5MB to
>my 200LX 2MB.
>
>It's just that the 200LX 2MB is almost bran new with perfect latch and no
>hinge
>crack and no scratches...
>
>Any ideas? If it's pretty simple, I'd like to do it myself. If it's harder
>and
>not too expensive, I could send it to one of you...
>
>Philippe
>
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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 10:18:57 +1300
Reply-To:     palmtop@ihug.co.nz
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From:         John 
Subject:      Re: Memory transplant from a 200LX DS 5MB to 200LX 2MB
Comments: To: Fryday 
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Hi Philippe & list
It is "pretty easy". Just a matter of opening up both LX's by removing
the
4 screws with the Torx #6 tops from the base of the LX - undoing the
screen
cable and swapping the complete motherboard.

I have put my 200-32mDS motherboard into my Black 100lx case which has
the
usual saggy hinge but no cracks

email me off list for more detail

Cheers
John

Fryday wrote:
> To the doublespeed experts:
> What's involved in transplanting the memory/doublespeed from my 200LX DS 5MB to
> my 200LX 2MB.
> It's just that the 200LX 2MB is almost bran new with perfect latch and no hinge
> crack and no scratches...
> Any ideas? If it's pretty simple, I'd like to do it myself. If it's harder and
> not too expensive, I could send it to one of you...
> Philippe

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:13:22 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Fryday 
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From:         Fryday 
Subject:      Re: Memory transplant from a 200LX DS 5MB to 200LX 2MB
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If I get anything I'll definitely send it to you :-)

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: ARTURO BELTRAN 
To: 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Memory transplant from a 200LX DS 5MB to 200LX 2MB


> Hi Philippe
>
> Could you be so kind to tell me the process to do that..
> for example technical data and especification....
>
> I4d like to try it. please send me the information at this address
> arturo_beltran@yahoo.com
>
> Thank you.....
>
>
> >From: Fryday 
> >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List ,              Fryday
> >
> >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject: Memory transplant from a 200LX DS 5MB to 200LX 2MB
> >Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:24:15 -0800
> >
> >To the doublespeed experts:
> >
> >What's involved in transplanting the memory/doublespeed from my 200LX DS
> >5MB to
> >my 200LX 2MB.
> >
> >It's just that the 200LX 2MB is almost bran new with perfect latch and no
> >hinge
> >crack and no scratches...
> >
> >Any ideas? If it's pretty simple, I'd like to do it myself. If it's harder
> >and
> >not too expensive, I could send it to one of you...
> >
> >Philippe
> >
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You're quite right - it's Buddy. The number of features & bugs
I've "discovered" that turned out to be that busy little prog.


On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:51:38 -0500,  wrote:

> This works the same on U.S. LXs -- if you're running Buddy.  And the "p" key
> is mapped to give "%".  Plus the "s", "d", and "r" keys clear the stack,
> data, and registers respectively.
>
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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:07:45 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              John Severance 
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From:         John Severance 
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John Severance wrote:
> I recognize the black finned heat-sink towers from when I worked for
> Amdahl in the early 1980s.  Amdahl sold IBM 370 System-compatible
> computers which were entirely air-cooled.  The architecture and design
> of the systems was done by Amdahl, but the implementation utilized
> Fujitsu wafer and packaging technology.  As I recall, Fujitsu sold the
> Amdahl systems and their own variants outside of the United States.
>
> From the layout of the board, I'd say it is a memory module.

I correct myself.  I looked more closely at your web site and saw the
varying sizes of the heat-sink towers and the photos of the back side of
the carrier with all the wires.  I think it is more likely that what you
have is a system logic module.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:49:57 -0700
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              John Severance 
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From:         John Severance 
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> Date:    Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:19:22 -0600
> From:    Andrew King 
> Subject: Anyone using a Deskjet 340 with IR?

> I just got a HP deskjet 340 with the IR adaptor but have not succeeded in
> getting my 200LX to recognize it. Do I need to install the printer IR
> driver or will one of the built in drivers work?

Attached is a link on the HP support site for a 200LX IrDA Printer
Driver:

http://www.hp.com/cposupport/handheld_computers/software/irda200.zip.html

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:26:09 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Russel Brooks 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Russel Brooks 
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Shameless Plug
Comments: To: Jeff Johns 
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Ok Jeff, I signed up using you as a reference.  I had a bit of trouble
at first because I missed the "S" on httpS.  I hadn't seen that before
so just entered HTTP and kept getting invalid url pages.

> also. Here's the link:
>
> https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=jeffj@hiwaay.net

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              Russel Brooks 
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From:         Russel Brooks 
Subject:      App Manager access to encrypted data
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I use SecureDevice (SD) to create a small encrypted drive (G:) where I
keep a file of sensitive data like passwords, etc.  I use the "/tmm"
switch to make it auto-logout after mm minutes of non-activity in case I
forget to logout.

  device=c:\bin\secdev\secdev.sys c:\secdev.!@# /t13

Normally I switch to dos, then Login to make the G: drive usable then
edit my file, etc.  Not hard but several steps.
I decided I wanted push button access to speed up access and exit so I
created the following .BAT file...

  @echo off
  cls
  login.com g:
  t.exe g:\pwpwpwpw.txt
  login.com g: logout

I then created a new app in the AppMgr that pointed to my BAT file. Now
instead of the previous steps I just select that app icon; it starts up
dos and calls my BAT file.  The BAT does Login where I'm prompted for my
SD password.  Next it edits (T.EXE) my special file on the encrypted
drive.  If I entered an invalid pw then (in the case of using T) I just
see an empty file with an error message that it couldn't open the file;
another tool might give a different error including an Abort, Retry,
Ignore.  When I quit the edit it logs out of the drive making it
inaccessable again.  (I could use the LOGOUT command but Login with an
invalid pw works as well and saves me the disk space of the LOGOUT.COM.)

Part 2...

I use to keep some of this data in a Note field of one of my phone book
entries.  Now that the data is more secure via my encrypted drive
(above) I deleted that entry from the phone book.  I'm pretty sure the
data still exists on disk though in the phone.pdb because the entry was
just marked as no longer used.

Question:  How can I flush out old unused records in databases like phone
or appt?  My data really isn't secure as long as it exists anywhere on
my non-encrypted drives.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 01:05:23 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Bob Newins 
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX Connection Speed
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Bye the way Jeff and Avi,

If you want to save a little more battery power and not
disturb your mate you can also add M0 (zero) and that will
shut off all the modem noise at dialup.  I prefer this, but it
might take others a little getting used to.  (I just love
using prepositions and the end of a sentence.  Sometimes it
just feels right!) (BG)      =Bob=

> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:
>
> > So share! What did you do to make it work? It is probably
> > useful to all to know how you fixed it. Others will
> > benefit!

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:08:32 -0500
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              Jim Sanders 
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From:         Jim Sanders 
Subject:      Word 5.5 and ASCII
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To enter ASCII in Word 5.5, you must push ÝMenu¨ÝCtrl¨ÝAlt¨
all at once and enter the code.  It works quite well but is a
four fingered trick.
Jim Sanders

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:23:56 -0800
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              Ashwin Balan 
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From:         Ashwin Balan 
Subject:      eBAY BUYER
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Who is johnnydean on ebay? he is buying 200lx's at twice their value


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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:35:35 -0800
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              Fryday 
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From:         Fryday 
Subject:      Re: eBAY BUYER
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Wow, this guy is serious!

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
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To: 
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Subject: eBAY BUYER


> Who is johnnydean on ebay? he is buying 200lx's at twice their value
>
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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:25:18 -0600
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              Jeff Johns 
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 18:26:09 -0500, Russel Brooks  =
wrote:

> Ok Jeff, I signed up using you as a reference.  I had a bit of trouble
> at first because I missed the "S" on httpS.  I hadn't seen that before
> so just entered HTTP and kept getting invalid url pages.

Thanks Russel and everyone else that has signed-up!!!! It's pretty cool =
to
get free money! Now if we could just get PayPal to write us an LX client =
we
could beam money with our LXes just like the Palm folks ar doing . The
https is for secure HTML, I seem to be seing a lot more pages that are
secure. I ran into one the other day and it wasn't a page that was asking
for personal information, it was just a plain web page.

Anyways, this is the last time I'll mention the URL to use me as a =
referral
for PayPal:

https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=3Djeffj@hiwaay.net

Maybe I can get enough cash in referrals to beat Prolink out on a bid on =
an
LX on eBay !

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:25:20 -0600
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              Jeff Johns 
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 19:23:56 -0800, Ashwin Balan  =
wrote:

> Who is johnnydean on ebay? he is buying 200lx's at twice their value

Prolink's twin brother ?

Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:17:49 -0700
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              Mike Kopplin 
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> > Who is johnnydean on ebay? he is buying 200lx's at twice their value
>
> Prolink's twin brother ?

Perhaps someone got tired of being outbid by prolink, and decided to just
outbid him for spite, with no intention of completing the transaction. If
so, he is only hurting the sellers. There's also clone111.  Both these
guys are consistantly outbidding prolink by a wide margin.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:07:43 -0800
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              A Meshar 
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Lars Hedstroem/Sweden wrote:

> Personally I am the very obstinate type so I guess I will be here until
> that bug 2038 
>
> See you Avi in old people's home! 

I doubt it. You'll have to come look for me at some remote
and exotic place somewhere in the world, but definitely not
"old people's" home :-)

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Date:         Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:07:40 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              A Meshar 
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From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX Connection Speed
Comments: To: Jeff 
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> atw2dt*70,8792282
>
> Now when the modem negotiation stops, the actual connection speed is
> displayed.

My USR 56kbps desktop model has no idea what W2 is... I
think it is a "modem thingy"...

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to:  support@dasoft.com
and check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com

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              "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" 
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From:         "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" 
Organization: Orion Enterprises
Subject:      200lx's on auction sites
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Has it ocurred to anyone else that HP was stupid, STUPID,STUPID! to
discontinue the 200lx, given the obvious demand for them on eBay,
etc.?!  Any suggestions on how I'm going to get a backup machine, or one
for my wife, under these circumstances?  I guess you can tell it's
pretty frustrating for me!  Sheesh!

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 07:06:41 -0500
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Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Lars Hedstroem 
Subject:      Re: 200lx's on auction sites
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> Has it ocurred to anyone else that HP was stupid, STUPID,STUPID! to
> discontinue the 200lx, given the obvious demand for them on eBay,
> etc.?!  Any suggestions on how I'm going to get a backup machine, or =
one
> for my wife, under these circumstances?  I guess you can tell it's
> pretty frustrating for me!  Sheesh!
>


Try Europe!


Lars hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 08:51:35 -0500
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Steve Carder 
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> Question:  How can I flush out old unused records in databases like =
phone
> or appt?  My data really isn't secure as long as it exists anywhere on
> my non-encrypted drives.

Create an empty notebook file.  Import the data from your current one =
into the
new file.  This will copy all of the active data but not any deleted =
stuff to
the new file.  The best way to clear off the actual disk sector is to
defreagment your drive.  All the reading and writing done then should =
overwrite
the sector with your deleted sensitive data.  Another way is to backup =
the
drive then format it and reinstall your data.

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 07:57:27 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Tom Hoover 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Tom Hoover 
Organization: HisWord.net -- my own little speedbump on the Information
              SuperHighway
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Shameless Plug
Comments: To: Jeff Johns 
In-Reply-To:  <200001150425.WAA16969@mail.HiWAAY.net>; from jeffj@HIWAAY.NET on
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I, too, signed up using Jeff as a reference.  Since Jeff is limited to 100
referrals (which it seems that he'll soon get), y'all are welcome to use me as
a referral as soon as he maxes out at 100!  :-)

   https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=tom@hisword.net

> Thanks Russel and everyone else that has signed-up!!!! It's pretty cool to
> get free money! Now if we could just get PayPal to write us an LX client we
> could beam money with our LXes just like the Palm folks ar doing . The
> https is for secure HTML, I seem to be seing a lot more pages that are
> secure. I ran into one the other day and it wasn't a page that was asking
> for personal information, it was just a plain web page.

--
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Jon,

Aren't the 800CT's the last of the instant-on too?  =Bob=

> Adjusting to the shock of Isopoint/Glidepad on
> 500MHz Omnibook 900B and NT4
>  - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - -

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 09:21:34 +0000
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From:         Terry Owen 
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Ok - I know that 2 formats are incompatible but is there anyone who
knows about IR that would be interested in writing a program that
would allow communication between the 2 palmtops?

I know there are beam hacks for the Palm PDAs but I'm pretty sure
they only work with other palms.  (There are serial comm programs for
the Palm - would using something like that work?)

I have been flirting with the Palm and have finally decided that I
have to have one after seeing the MP3 module for the Visor. And the
six-pack (modem-paging-memory) from innogear.com  But there's no way
I'm going to let my LX go, either. :-)

I would be willing to pay for a program that transfers simple things
like docs - although my gadget budget for software stops at about $50
and that's for something I really, really, rally have to have.  (I'm
a cheap gadgeteer - most cash goes for hardware.)

So - is there anyone else who might be interested in helping fund
such a progam if it is feasible?

 Thanks,

Terry Owen


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              smoore 
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I  still have (9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They
are
in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
$65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only!  I also have (3)

20 Meg name brand Sandisks for sale. I sell (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for
$40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. and I sell (2) 20 MEg
Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping and You can send payment  to my
address at:


Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back  the day I receive your payment and let you know
that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
been really  great.   Thanks alot!     Scott

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 12:13:38 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              A Meshar 
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From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: Question about POST/LX and BCC
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:03:30 +0000, chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
wrote:

> When I posted a message with POST/LX v2.2d, using a mailing
> list in a BCC header, all the recipients of the post were
> listed in the header after a BCC: tag. Is this correct? Do
> other e-mail clients behave this way? I thought the whole
> purpose of BCC was that the recipients couldn't see the other
> recipients.

Aha... I did not see this when you initially posted, but
received the email. Tony told me you posted here...

The email server that moves your email (at your ISP) has
the task to remove the header Bcc: prior to sending. It
seems they got lazy and are not.

There are other ISPs who are now sliding and turning out a
lower quality product, but to compensate, they are either
charging the same, or more each month :-( ,,,

My recommendation: SCREAM at them. LOUD, PROLONGED, and
with FULL VOLUME. They are screwing you. Don't accept it.
If they do not help, let your GBP speak louder - take your
business elsewhere, and tell Amlog why you are leaving. If
you can find the name of the head person, send them an
email, tell them why you leave. It is so stupid for them to
cut that corner to save (no, _shave_) a minute amount of
processing. It is shoddy and unjustified. If they notice
they lose business for something that is minor they will
sit up, perk their ears and pay attention.

If Post/LX removed the header, the ISP Mail Server would
not know where to send the email, see? :)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com
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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:17:11 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Jeff 
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From:         Jeff 
Subject:      Re: WWW/LX Connection Speed
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> My USR 56kbps desktop model has no idea what W2 is... I
> think it is a "modem thingy"...

I believe it's a standard Hayes command, nothing special.....

Jeff

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 21:56:53 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill 
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On 15 Jan 2000 06:08:40 -0800, Steve Carder  =
wrote:

> Create an empty notebook file.  Import the data from your current one =
into the
> new file.  This will copy all of the active data but not any deleted =
stuff to
> the new file.

I did this on my appointmentbook. But that did not clear all the errors
that dbcheck report. Then I saved to file everything before 31.12.1999.

Then I merged this file into a new one. This cleared almost all my
errors and shrinked the appointmentbook by 50%.

I will merge into new files with all my databases and notebooks when
the Rex sync/move is up and running.. Then I will fit all
notebook/databases on the 256kb Rex 3 card..(I hope)

(Now the only problem is to get a hold of a Rex 3 then ..:-))

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:00:34 -0500
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Steve Carder 
Subject:      Re: 200lx's on auction sites
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> Has it ocurred to anyone else that HP was stupid, STUPID,STUPID! to
> discontinue the 200lx, given the obvious demand for them on eBay,

Yes, but the demand is for cheaper used machines.  I have a total of 3
HP200LXs, but only one was purchased new.  The other two were used and I =
paid
about the price of one new machine for both.  I wouldn't have 3 palmtops =
if I
had only been able to purchase new ones.

My point is that a lot of the people who want a used HP200LX wouldn't buy =
a new
one from HP.  So, the demand on eBay probably doesn't reflect the demand =
for
new machines as seen by HP.

Steve Carder

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:20:45 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Mike Wagstaff 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Mike Wagstaff 
Subject:      Re: Update on 486 200LX
Comments: To: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 
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> Hi, I get a 404 on the Morphy 1 url.  Can you help?
> 73, doug

Sorry about that. I forgot that I moved the page not too long
ago! Try http://games.hplx.net/features/morphyone.htm -
hopefully, that'll be more useful :-)

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:47:35 PST
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Tony Guzewicz 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Tony Guzewicz 
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Thanks Jim. It finally works.
Tony


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              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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From:         Chris Randle 
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Just in case you were serious about not understanding the
Latin, it's from the Requiem Mass (a mass for the dead).

It says...

And light, eternal.
And light eternal shine upon them.
Shine upon them
 "
 "
Lord have mercy. ÝMispelled - should have been kyrie¨


On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Ed Padin wrote:

> We need a Collins Latin-English translator. Is this somehting about perputal
> light ?

Ýsnip¨

> >et lux, perpetua,
> >  et lux perpetua luceat eis.
> >    luceat eis
> >            luceat eis
> >                   luceat eis
> >                            Kyrei ele-------ison ...
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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:40:43 -0600
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              Thomas Rundel 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Thomas Rundel 
Subject:      Re: Who's buying 200LXs on ebay (again)
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Rudi wrote:

 > And I'm sitting here in Germany, writing to almost everyone who offers
 > a palmtop without any sucess. I'm always either too slow or too far away
 > although I've prepared a couple of Dollar Bills ready to be sent to
 > anyone in the world.
 >
 > Help me! p-l-e-a-s-e ! Because the palmtop is the very main computing
 > device of mine.  It is the
 >
 >         FIRST REAL GENERAL PURPOSE COMPUTER I EVER OWNED.
 >
 > :)
 >
 > Rudi

You may want to have a look at the UsedStuff section of our web site
(www.rundel.net/palmtop/usedstuf.htm)  - several palmtops are offered
there, and you can even place a free "wanted to buy" ad there.

 Tom
 Rundel Datentechnik
 http://www.rundel.net/palmtop

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              Thomas Rundel 
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From:         Thomas Rundel 
Subject:      Re: Using the infrared port in DOS
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Paul Khoury wrote:

 > >I believe, Tom Rundel of accis fame wrote a dos program to drive the HP
 > >little IR printer from the 95/100/200.  I think there is also a remote
 > >controller that was dos and not exm.
 > >
 > >
 > Where would one obtain these programs?

The printer software for the HP 82240 can be downloaded from my web site:
www.rundel.net/palmtop - just follow the software link.

 Tom
 Rundel Datentechnik
 http://www.rundel.net/palmtop

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 20:17:30 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              A Meshar 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: Fluff: RE: ÝHPLX-L¨ FWD: hp200lx for sale
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> And light, eternal.
> And light eternal shine upon them.
> Shine upon them

> > >et lux, perpetua,
> > >  et lux perpetua luceat eis.
> > >    luceat eis
> > >            luceat eis
> > >                   luceat eis
> > >                            Kyrei ele-------ison ...

I think the backlight project should be renamed to "luceat
eis" :-) or Lux perpetua :)

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 20:40:53 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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From:         David Sargeant 
Subject:      Re: Fluff: RE: ÝHPLX-L¨ FWD: hp200lx for sale
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> I think the backlight project should be renamed to "luceat eis" :-) or
> Lux perpetua :)

GETCHER LUX PERPETUA HERE, LOW LOW PRICES!  ACT NOW!

Hmmm... catchy.  

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 22:23:57 -0700
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From:         "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" 
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Only if you can guarantee that they really are *perpetual* (eternal)!


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Subject: Re: Fluff: RE: ÝHPLX-L¨ FWD: hp200lx for sale

On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> I think the backlight project should be renamed to "luceat eis" :-) or

> Lux perpetua :)

GETCHER LUX PERPETUA HERE, LOW LOW PRICES!  ACT NOW!

Hmmm... catchy.  

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Date:         Sat, 15 Jan 2000 18:55:39 -0800
Reply-To:     dcollins@trendx.com
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From:         Donald Collins 
Subject:      PCMCIA Cards for sale

I just purchased one of the $35 cards and I'm very pleased.  Has anyone
on the list bought one and test the performance yet?  It would be
interesting to know speed & power draw vs. Sandisk cards.

smoore writes:
> I  still have (9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They
> are
> in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
> testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
> PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
> $65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only!  I also have (3)



Don.
Folsom, California

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              "Eng. & Industrial Projects" 
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From:         "Eng. & Industrial Projects" 
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For some reason this application is not running correctly,
it launches but will not allow me to type into it.

The cursor is a black box and appears about 5-6 lines down,
when typing starts the cursor moves but no letters appear.

Has anyone experienced this before?

Have done a soft reboot (ctrl/alt/del) with no difference,
any suggestions appreciated.

Best regards.....Liam
Western Australia

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:00:32 +0000
Reply-To:     neil@skipper.org.uk
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From:         Neil Tungate 
Organization: alphabetic
Subject:      Re: App Manager access to encrypted data
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 21:56:53 +0100, Martin Bergvill wrote:

>(Now the only problem is to get a hold of a Rex 3 then ..:-))

They appear from time to time on ebay.co.uk - that would be easier for =
you
to buy than from the US.

--=20
Neil Tungate 
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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:01:11 +0100
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              Josef Meyer 
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From:         Josef Meyer 
Subject:      TFWin200 modifies date/time
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I have used TFWin200 for some months on my PC under NT4.0 and it works
well with the following not so nice items:

1. During transfer of files the date of the file is modified on the
receiving side (i.e. the original date/Time is replaced by the actual
date/time). This is emabarrassing for me.

2. It takes a very long time to update the filelist on the remote (the
LX) side: 10..20 sec.

Does anybody know how to cure these 2 items?

Josef Meyer

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:01:13 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Josef Meyer 
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From:         Josef Meyer 
Subject:      Socket LP-E CF+ Ethernet card works on 200LX!
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Last week I bought the CF+ LP-E Ethernet card from Socket. This is a
low power consuming (19mA in active state) Compact Flash format
Ethernet adapter. I used it in my 200Lx together with Stefan Peichl's
LXCIC enabler program and Rod Whitby's LXEN2216 packet driver.

Then I connected it to my company's LAN and ran Andreas Garzotto's DHCP
to have an IP address assigned. At last I started WWW/LX and could then
run HV, POST/LX, PING, TELNET etc. from D&A.

I think this NIC from Socket is a good alternative to the ACCTON EN2216
NIC, mainly due to it's excellent battery saving power consumption. It
is mainly designed for WinCE products, but it can be used also under
other OS'S.

Price is ca. 140$, evtl. less.

Find more info on www.socketcom.com.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:12:23 -0600
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              Doug Mc Vey 
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Donald
I have both ScanDisk Compact FLash, 1414LXM Thinfax W/Memory, as well as the
20MB Steve Moore sold me.  The consensus is the 20MB was FASTER that the
other 2!  Steve is great to work with and responds in kind.  I have no way
of testing - simple observation is what my analysis is based on.
Doug
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From: Donald Collins 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 8:55 PM
Subject: PCMCIA Cards for sale


> I just purchased one of the $35 cards and I'm very pleased.  Has anyone
> on the list bought one and test the performance yet?  It would be
> interesting to know speed & power draw vs. Sandisk cards.
>
> smoore writes:
> > I  still have (9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They
> > are
> > in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
> > testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
> > PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
> > $65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only!  I also have (3)
>
>
>
> Don.
> Folsom, California
>
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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 05:46:06 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              A Meshar 
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From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: TFWin200 modifies date/time
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> 1. During transfer of files the date of the file is modified on the
> receiving side (i.e. the original date/Time is replaced by the actual
> date/time). This is emabarrassing for me.

No cure, it is the silly way it was programmed. My first
reason to not use the program.

> 2. It takes a very long time to update the filelist on the remote (the
> LX) side: 10..20 sec.

Not so bad for me, but still rather lengthy. It also is
slow in transfer and ultimately I find it more useless and
onerous than helpful.

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to:  support@dasoft.com
and check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 08:49:41 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Steven Lawson 
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From:         Steven Lawson 
Subject:      Re: Question about POST/LX and BCC
In-Reply-To:  <20000116050105.778A2962A@mcp.sdl.continet.com> from Automatic
              digest processor at "Jan 16, 0 00:00:03 am"
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> The email server that moves your email (at your ISP) has
> the task to remove the header Bcc: prior to sending. It
> seems they got lazy and are not.

This isn't right.  When you go to hand the mail to the server, the email
client (POST/LX, GP, LXMTA, etc) should read the destination addresses
from the email header To:, Cc: and Bcc: fields.  It then turns these into
SMTP "RCPT TO:" commands.  It is these commands that the SMTP server
uses to deliver mail, not the actual mail header.  When you get to "DATA"
phase, the client passes the email header and message to the server.  If
the *client* encounters a Bcc: in the header at this point, it should
discard it.

Relying on the server to discard the Bcc: for you is a bad idea when you
have a perfect opportunity to do it yourself as you hand the message to
the server.

> If Post/LX removed the header, the ISP Mail Server would
> not know where to send the email, see? :)

The ISP mail server doesn't use the header to deliver the mail, it uses
the "envelope" which consists of the "MAIL FROM:" and "RCPT TO: commands.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 01:38:51 -0500
Reply-To:     Nicholas Chan 
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From:         Nicholas Chan 
Subject:      200LX Internal Keyboard replacement
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Sorry if this sounds odd, but today, I really noticed one thing about the Psion 5 and the
HP200LX. The Psion 5 has no gaps between the keys, thus being able to use 100%
key pressable areas for keys. The 200LX has TONS of keyboard estate and teeny
weenie button keys.

I was wondering if there was a thing that Mack or someone could do to just replace the
upper top layer of keys with similar Psion 5 100% keyboard estate area usage,
perhaps without the key pressing depth of the Psion 5 (just maintaining the same ole
click). If created in build in injection molding, I think that this would be relatively cheap to
manufacture and reinstall; just have to take the old keyboard sticker and plastic keys
off and just replace it with the bigger keys.

Ideas anyone? Or am I just delusional?

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 10:33:00 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List , qman@EARTHLINK.NET
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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." 
Subject:      Re: HP1000CX and 200LX...there have to be *some* out there, right?

Hi All,

For anyone looking for a 1MB 200LX
I just found this post on the NG.

Good Luck!


In message <1761dd4a.8c245f91@usw-ex0101-006.remarq.com>, mirskymk  wrote:
> For sale
>
> 200lx (1meg)with all software, 10 meg double flash card & software,
> conectivity pack with cable and all software, extra backup battery,
> leather case, data base rebuilder, TVALUE application software
> (loaded), and all manuals.  All in excellent shape.
>
> Asking $250 delivered.
>
> Please respond to mirskymk@gateway.net.
>
> Marv
>
>
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Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Doug Mc Vey 
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From:         Doug Mc Vey 
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Subject:      Magnify!
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Help!
I have(I think) Magnify! installed on my 200LX DS/32MB.  I inadvertently =
froze my machine when I was backing up. =20
When the smoke cleared and recovered back to normal I discovered my =
Magnify! was no longer operating.
It shows to be in DIR as well as in filer under C:_DAT but I am unable =
to start Magnify! again.
If anyone has this program and can help I would appreciate it. =20
I follow instructions - open D:\autoexec.bat and put in first line =
"C:\ace\magnify". When I do this I get "Error writing file".
So next I go directly to DOS and put "C:\ace\magnify"; I get:  "Magnify =
V1.00 - Screen Magnifier.  Serial Number: C1240-03400-219 Setting =
default lens positions.  Can't install magnify.  try exiting AppMgr =
completely: (MORE) (MENU) A T (13)." =20
Unfortunately when I try to do this I am in system Manager and am unable =
to perform this task.
Does anyone have a clue how to activate Magnify!?
Thanks
Doug

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Help!


I have(I think) Magnify! installed on my 200LX =
DS/32MB. =20
I inadvertently froze my machine when I was backing up.  =



When the smoke cleared and recovered back to normal =
I=20
discovered my Magnify! was no longer operating.


It shows to be in DIR as well as in filer under =
C:_DAT but I=20
am unable to start Magnify! again.


If anyone has this program and can help I would =
appreciate=20
it.  


I follow instructions - open D:\autoexec.bat and put =
in first=20
line "C:\ace\magnify". When I do this I get "Error writing =
file".


So next I go directly to DOS and put =
"C:\ace\magnify"; I=20
get:  "Magnify V1.00 - Screen Magnifier.  Serial Number:=20
C1240-03400-219 Setting default lens positions.  Can't install=20
magnify.  try exiting AppMgr completely: (MORE) (MENU) A T =
(13)." =20



Unfortunately when I try to do this I am in system =
Manager and=20
am unable to perform this task.


Does anyone have a clue how to activate =
Magnify!?


Thanks


Doug


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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:34:38 -0100
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              Peter Eberl 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Peter Eberl 
Subject:      Re: Socket LP-E CF+ Ethernet card works on 200LX!
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At 14:01 16.01.2000 +0100, you wrote:
>Last week I bought the CF+ LP-E Ethernet card from Socket. This is a
>low power consuming (19mA in active state) Compact Flash format
>Ethernet adapter. I used it in my 200Lx together with Stefan Peichl's
>LXCIC enabler program and Rod Whitby's LXEN2216 packet driver.
Hi Josef,

I also have the LP-E Socket card. But due to time constraints not played
around with having it installed in the HP.

Could you help me out with posting / emailing your autoexec.bat and the
other stuff you changed/edited for getting the card working properly
(something like a cookbook?)

regards

peter

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:52:22 -0600
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              "David R. Birch" 
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From:         "David R. Birch" 
Subject:      Re: TFWin200 modifies date/time
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Josef Meyer wrote:
>
> I have used TFWin200 for some months on my PC under NT4.0 and it works
> well with the following not so nice items:
>
> 1. During transfer of files the date of the file is modified on the
> receiving side (i.e. the original date/Time is replaced by the actual
> date/time). This is emabarrassing for me.

To retain file dates, I ZIP the files to be transferred.

David

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 22:59:50 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" 
Subject:      Re: Magnify!
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You have to copy the autoexec.bat from d: to c: or a: - The d: drive is
a rom drive and is only machine code and you cannot alter it.  You can
copy and then edit the copy to put the magnify instructions in that.

I think magnify must be loaded before loading sysmgr in order to work.
So dropping to dos does not work to load.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:53:41 -0500
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              joe 
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From:         joe 
Subject:      Re: PCMCIA Disks & Sandisks Available
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Dear Smoore,
Do you still have 2 set Scandisk 20M flash card in stock? I will consider to
send US bank draft if possible. Do you still need
US$80 include shipping to Toronto, Canada.
Please email to joetech@home.com
Best Regards,
William Chan

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smoore
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 12:14 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: PCMCIA Disks & Sandisks Available


I  still have (9) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They
are
in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
$65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only!  I also have (3)

20 Meg name brand Sandisks for sale. I sell (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for
$40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. and I sell (2) 20 MEg
Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping and You can send payment  to my
address at:


Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back  the day I receive your payment and let you know
that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
been really  great.   Thanks alot!     Scott

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:10:14 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Bob Christopher 
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From:         Bob Christopher 
Subject:      Sandisks and 1000CX
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Has anyone used the Sandisk w/PCMCIA adapter in the HP 1000CX? What
drivers are needed and where does one obtain them?

  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
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              "Rodger N. Bird II" 
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From:         "Rodger N. Bird II" 
Subject:      Re: Magnify!
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After loading it from Autoexec.bat use the "FN & 1" keys to activate in =
any system manager program such as phonebook or database.

Rodger
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  From: Doug Mc Vey=20
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  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 2:29 PM
  Subject: Magnify!


  Help!
  I have(I think) Magnify! installed on my 200LX DS/32MB.  I =
inadvertently froze my machine when I was backing up. =20
  When the smoke cleared and recovered back to normal I discovered my =
Magnify! was no longer operating.
  It shows to be in DIR as well as in filer under C:_DAT but I am unable =
to start Magnify! again.
  If anyone has this program and can help I would appreciate it. =20
  I follow instructions - open D:\autoexec.bat and put in first line =
"C:\ace\magnify". When I do this I get "Error writing file".
  So next I go directly to DOS and put "C:\ace\magnify"; I get:  =
"Magnify V1.00 - Screen Magnifier.  Serial Number: C1240-03400-219 =
Setting default lens positions.  Can't install magnify.  try exiting =
AppMgr completely: (MORE) (MENU) A T (13)." =20
  Unfortunately when I try to do this I am in system Manager and am =
unable to perform this task.
  Does anyone have a clue how to activate Magnify!?
  Thanks
  Doug

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After loading it from Autoexec.bat use the "FN =
& 1"=20
keys to activate in any system manager program such as phonebook or=20
database.


 


Rodger


  
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  From:=20
  Doug Mc=20
  Vey 
  
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 

  
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 =
2:29=20
  PM

  
Subject: Magnify!

  


  
Help!

  
I have(I think) Magnify! installed on my 200LX=20
  DS/32MB.  I inadvertently froze my machine when I was backing =
up. =20
  

  
When the smoke cleared and recovered back to =
normal I=20
  discovered my Magnify! was no longer operating.

  
It shows to be in DIR as well as in filer under =
C:_DAT but I=20
  am unable to start Magnify! again.

  
If anyone has this program and can help I would =
appreciate=20
  it.  

  
I follow instructions - open D:\autoexec.bat and =
put in=20
  first line "C:\ace\magnify". When I do this I get "Error writing=20
  file".

  
So next I go directly to DOS and put =
"C:\ace\magnify"; I=20
  get:  "Magnify V1.00 - Screen Magnifier.  Serial Number:=20
  C1240-03400-219 Setting default lens positions.  Can't install=20
  magnify.  try exiting AppMgr completely: (MORE) (MENU) A T =
(13)." =20
  

  
Unfortunately when I try to do this I am in system =
Manager=20
  and am unable to perform this task.

  
Does anyone have a clue how to activate=20
  Magnify!?

  
Thanks

  
Doug


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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:52:25 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Arturo Galindo 
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From:         Arturo Galindo 
Subject:      OT Please forgive and bear with me
In-Reply-To:  <3869081800093C7C@cidintsmtpnet.infosel.com.mx> (added by
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I do wish to sell the following and believe this will be the best place for
my beloved toy to go, that is why I dare to bother you all. Please accept my
humblest apologies if this causes inconveniences to any one, and thank you
all for your understanding The parcel will go to the highest bidder. Please
bid of line. Starting price is 400.00 us for the whole thing
1. 1 book, pc/ms-dos quick reference guide (microref) version 3.0-5.0 =
$12.50
2. 1 book, lotus 1-2-3 quick reference guide (microref) version 2.4 = $12.50
3. 1 book, pc in your pocket from The HP Palmtop Paper = $12.50
4. 1 book, 1-2-3 for dummies dos version, specific for version 2.4 = $12.50
5. 2 connectity packs, = $65.00 each one
6. 1 printer cable = $50.00
7. 33 hp palmtop paper magazines =?? $
8. 6 hp palmtop paper magazine diskettes with software specific to the hp
palmtop =?? $
9. 1 kit, palm connects software (for windows 3.1) =?? $
10. 1 hp 100 lx with one Meg in ram - no quicken- = $175.00
11. 1 hp 200 lx with two Megs in ram -yes quicken) = $225.00
Buyer pays shipment            I believe it will be better to sell all
together, also; much easier for me -gig- yeah, I'm kind of lazy -ggg-
Will not ship until after receiving and cashing the money order U.S. postal
service will be the best option.                    Will ship only to a us
address                         I am not able to take credit cards
Might ponder taking an HP Win Ce palmtop, either a 620 or a 680 with all the
accessories that come with either one of them on an even trade basis. (Still
have one 200 lx with the dreaded hinge crack that will stay with me until
one of us passes away -ggg-)                Will ship via U.S Postal
service, registered mail, and the cheapest possible fare for after receiving
the unit

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              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
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From:         Chris Randle 
Subject:      Re: Question about POST/LX and BCC
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Jan 2000 00:03:30 +0000, chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
> wrote:

Ýsnip¨

> If they do not help, let your GBP speak louder - take your
> business elsewhere, and tell Amlog why you are leaving. If

Thanks for the good advice. Actually Demon is the ISP - Amlog
is my company. I want to leave but it pays the mortgage!

Ýsnip¨

> If Post/LX removed the header, the ISP Mail Server would
> not know where to send the email, see? :)

Sorry to falsely accuse Post/LX. I sort of trusted Demon. Up
until now they were one of the few UK ISPs who did things
properly. No more it seems. I'll have a go at them as you
suggest.
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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 19:46:48 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              John J Vanderstel 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         John J Vanderstel 
Subject:      Re: REX-3

Hi Tom,

>I hope you've recovered from your system crash!

Well, I lost about 30 megs of files on the RAM disk and I just haven't
had the time to do the floppy disk shuffle to copy all of my files back
to me HP200LX from backups.

Hopefully I'll find the time sometime next week.

>I see from your posts to the hplx list that you own a Rex-3. I checked
CDW
>(where I buy a lot of stuff for business use) and they have a Rex-3 with
>Docking station for $32. At that price I can't resist.

Yep! there are some great deals on them out there. You found a good
source! Please post that to the list so others can get one too.

>I want to carry it in my wallet like a credit card. Will there be a
problem
>with damage and buttons getting pressed inadvertantly?

That could be a problem. The screen could be damaged while carrying it
that way. The screen is not flexible, at all. I carry mine inside the
clear plastic back cover of my business expense book that I carry in my
vest pocket all of the time. It works great for me.

Just carry a piece of paper with you to notate new appointments on so you
can enter those appointments in the desktop later. Every hotsync updates
the REX-3 so you'll always have your schedule with you. :-)

>Also, I have a PC card reader in my desktop machine. Will I still need
the
>supplied docking station? I don't think I will.

The PC card reader in your desktop machine will work fine, so the docking
station won't be necessary for your setup.

Have fun with it!  I hope that they come up with a way to synchronize
with the HP200LX. That would be cool! :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

BTW, I'll be out of town and off the net at least till Tuesday. Then I'll
start on the task of catching up with the list. ;-)

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:47:43 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              A Meshar 
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From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: Migrating data from LX to WinCE
Comments: To: Fryday 
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> Phone.pbd (159KB) to Contacts (634KB)
> Appt.adb (48KB) to Appointments (152KB) + Tasks (134KB)
>
> Yikes!!!

Yokes in deed. Classic bloat.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:47:17 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              A Meshar 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: Magnify!
Comments: To: Doug Mc Vey 
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Write to me at support@dasoft.com. We "inherited" Magnify!
from ACE when they went out of business...

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to:  support@dasoft.com
and check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:47:23 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              A Meshar 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: Question about POST/LX and BCC
Comments: To: Steven Lawson 
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> This isn't right.  When you go to hand the mail to the server, the email
> client (POST/LX, GP, LXMTA, etc) should read the destination addresses
> from the email header To:, Cc: and Bcc: fields.  It then turns these into

Andreas corrected me privately as well. I stand chastised!
:-)

Thanks.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 17:24:36 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              A Meshar 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: Question about POST/LX and BCC
Comments: To: chris@amlog.demon.co.uk
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Chris,

> If they do not help, let your GBP speak louder - take your
> > business elsewhere, and tell Amlog why you are leaving. If
>
> Thanks for the good advice. Actually Demon is the ISP - Amlog
> is my company. I want to leave but it pays the mortgage!

ROFL... Not to mention the diapers and baby clorhes and the
fund for the higher education which you undoubtedly started
already! :) ...

> > If Post/LX removed the header, the ISP Mail Server would
> > not know where to send the email, see? :)
>
> Sorry to falsely accuse Post/LX. I sort of trusted Demon. Up
> until now they were one of the few UK ISPs who did things
> properly. No more it seems. I'll have a go at them as you
> suggest.

I was wrong in what I wrote above. The recipients are
provided to the server in a separate command. But indeed
it seems that the server is "lazy". Steve and Andreas
both have corrected me. The information about recipients
is sent separately to the server. Steve posted that he
thinks the entire header can be removed from the data
prior to sending it to the server.

Andreas has been pulling his hair (and mine, proverbially),
wanting me to post that Post/LX does not support BCC. his
reasoning is that more and more servers will become "lazy"
in this MS-dominated world of software. He feels that more
and more servers will not support the proper usage of
yesteryear, and that eventually, email will only work if
the software is by MS. I am paraphrasing a lot and reaching
a lot too. For my defense - I have fever and cannot be held
responsible for what I say under the influence :-) ...

The short of it is that server mis-behave more and more,
griping and yelling at ISPs will probably not be responsive
because they have lower and lower standards, and most times
they do not even know what they are doing (I can attest
that this happens!)

I am not so pssimistic. I think that the degree of email
not using MS software and standards is huge, and is
growing. I believe that the share of servers that are
MS-product-based is not growing, but that UNIX and flavors
are growing faster. I have an optimistic view of the future
which includes MS, but not in a dominant role where it is
important. Certainly, more and more mission-critical work
is shifted away from the MS-software base. I consider email
as one of thise important and critical applications.

Anyway, I don't know as of this moment how to help more. I
recall that Rod posted that LXMTA does is properly - what
do you mean, Rod? Can you please elaborate a bit?

Thanks,

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:49:46 EST
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List , PhilBruland@CS.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Phil Bruland 
Subject:      please take me off email list
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please take me off your list
philbruland@cs.com
thanks phil

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:14:09 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Doug Mc Vey 
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From:         Doug Mc Vey 
Organization: Prodigy Internet
Subject:      Re: Magnify!
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THANK YOU!!!
That worked.  It has been about 4 months since I did this last time and knew
there
was some step I was missing.  d to c did the trick.
Thanks again
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: F. Kaufman 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Magnify!


> You have to copy the autoexec.bat from d: to c: or a: - The d: drive is
> a rom drive and is only machine code and you cannot alter it.  You can
> copy and then edit the copy to put the magnify instructions in that.
>
> I think magnify must be loaded before loading sysmgr in order to work.
> So dropping to dos does not work to load.
>
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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:23:20 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Doug Mc Vey 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Doug Mc Vey 
Organization: Prodigy Internet
Subject:      Re: Magnify!
Comments: To: A Meshar 
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Thanks You
I have solved my delima. I copied d to c - now it works.
Thanks again
Doug
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From: A Meshar 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Magnify!


> Write to me at support@dasoft.com. We "inherited" Magnify!
> from ACE when they went out of business...
>
>   Avi
>
> The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
> Software response, please write to:  support@dasoft.com
> and check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com
>
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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 22:10:01 -0500
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Steve Carder 
Subject:      Re: 200LX Internal Keyboard replacement
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> Sorry if this sounds odd, but today, I really noticed one thing about =
the Psion 5 and the
> HP200LX. The Psion 5 has no gaps between the keys, thus being able to =
use 100%
> key pressable areas for keys. The 200LX has TONS of keyboard estate and =
teeny
> weenie button keys.

I think it would be too easy to hit more than one key at a time if they =
touched
each other.  I prefer the current HP200LX layout with space between the =
keys.

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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:35:18 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              "John A. Evans - N0HJ" 
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From:         "John A. Evans - N0HJ" 
Subject:      OT: Quicken 98 and Y2K
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Greetings,

  For those who may be using Quicken 98 R1, I just discovered this day
as I was doing my finances that scheduled transactions do not pop us as
reminders.  Newsgroup discussions show that some are seeing this problem

and should update their version of Quicken 98 thru the Intuit site to a
later version, say R3 or R4, depending upon how much of Quicken 98 you
use.  Intuit's site does not mention a problem with Quicken 98 (which is

why I went to 98 versus 99 or 2000).

  Why the OT topic?  I just don't want my friends to get bit like I do -

of course, if you like your checkbook balance to look higher than it
actually is, then disregard this post.

take care,
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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 20:37:57 -0800
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              revwkschultz@JUNO.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         William Schultz 
Subject:      Re: Question about POST/LX and BCC
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Juno.com makes us put brackets around something that we want the server
to read as a Blind Carbon Copy.  Might be worth a try on other servers.
For example: (username@isp.com) reads as a Bcc.




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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 02:15:09 +0000
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              "Don E. Weatherly" 
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From:         "Don E. Weatherly" 
Subject:      PC 110
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Date:         Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:19:05 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM
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From:         Ulrich Boche 
Subject:      Re: Fluff: RE: ÝHPLX-L¨ FWD: hp200lx for sale
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chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK wrote:
>
> Just in case you were serious about not understanding the
> Latin, it's from the Requiem Mass (a mass for the dead).
>
> It says...
>
> And light, eternal.
> And light eternal shine upon them.
> Shine upon them
>  "
>  "
> Lord have mercy. ÝMispelled - should have been kyrie¨
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2000, Ed Padin wrote:
>
> > We need a Collins Latin-English translator. Is this somehting
> about perputal
> > light ?
>
> Ýsnip¨
>
> > >et lux, perpetua,
> > >  et lux perpetua luceat eis.
> > >    luceat eis
> > >            luceat eis
> > >                   luceat eis
> > >                            Kyrei ele-------ison ...
>
>
> Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk)
>

BTW. A Latin-English translator, Collins or otherwise, wouldn't have
been of much help with "Kyrie eleison": That's Greek.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 01:32:35 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              David Ball 
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From:         David Ball 
Subject:      Fluff: Templates for CE Pocket Office
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I'm looking for a web site with templates available for download for Pocket
Office.  Any suggestions would be quite welcome.

TIA,

David Ball
Regards,

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:24:04 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Josef Meyer 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Josef Meyer 
Subject:      Re: Socket LP-E CF+ Ethernet card works on 200LX!
Comments: To: Peter Eberl 
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> At 14:01 16.01.2000 +0100, you wrote:
>
> Could you help me out with posting / emailing your autoexec.bat and the
> other stuff you changed/edited for getting the card working properly
> (something like a cookbook?)

Well, I try to tell as well as possible the steps:

I used WWW/LX from D&A Software.

1. I use the LP-E CF+ Ethernet card from Socket together with a Compact
Flash adapter
(http://www.socketcom.com)

2. In my autoexec.bat I have a line
c:\bin\lxcic /l
that loads lxcic as TSR (instead of the original d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1).
Get it from http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/
or from S.U.P.E.R. Be sure to have the latest version.

3. Reboot the LX.

4. Get LXETH10B from http://rwhitby.hplx.net/lxeth/index.html
and unzip it.

5. Open a DOS shell (best to terminate Sysmgr or use Maxdos)
and run the command
LXEN2216 0x66
from the command line.
This loads a packet driver.
(To unload the driver: TERMIN 0x66)

6. Add a setup for Ethernet connection to WWW/LX according to the doc
coming with WWW/LX.
(http://www.dasoft.com)

7. Physically connect the LX to the LAN.

8. Only if you want to have DHCP:
Fetch dhcp.zip from D&A Software
(ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/dhcp.zip),
unzip it and run dhcp.exe from the command line.
This will create a file IP-UP.BAT in the current directory.
Run IP-UP.BAT.

9. Start WWW/LX with the formerly created Ethernet setup.

10. Play with all programs working with WWW/LX
(HV, POST, PING, FINGER, TELNET, FTP),
available from D&A Software (http://www.dasoft.com)

OBS: WWW/LX is limited in the unregistered version to 16KB per run!

I guess also LXTCP works with the socket ethernet card (haven't tried).

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 08:45:48 -100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List , leurquin@BIGFOOT.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Yves Leurquin 
Subject:      Re: Paradox dbase?
MIME-Version: 1.0

Terry,

Paradox 3.5 runs very well on the HPLX but needs 2 or 3 MB of disk space.
Alternatively you can export to a comma delimited file and use GDBIO to
import into the HP Database application.

 \/
 /ves

 > Is there some way to read a Paradox database file on the hp200lx using
 > software which is readily available on SUPER or in the PIMs?

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From:         Yves Leurquin 
Subject:      Re: Soundblaster for the palmtop!
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A few years back I also built a parallel port sound system which produced
very good quality music (better than a sound blaster). It was connected to a
80386 computer and driving the device required all the processing power the
80386 could give to play sound files.

I am afraid that the battery powered 80186 HPLX has not enough muscle to
produce sound via such a parallel port device.

 \/
 /ves

 > I tried the simplest module-players (supporting PC-speaker and
 > "Covox" DAC) on my HP200LX before, but they always brought my
 > unit down.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:06:49 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Mark Willis 
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From:         Mark Willis 
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I've never had to do anything with a CF card in my 200LX or the 200LX or
1000CX I upgraded (4Mb, 2x speed) here, I just plug the CF card, in it's
adapter, into the 200LX or 1000CX.  I have the 1000CX here for another
day or so, can check with my 48Mb SanDisk card in a SanDisk adapter if
you want, I know it's worked just fine with other brands CF card &
adapter.  (e-mail me off list so I get it faster, I filter most lists
into folders so I can read them daily or so.)

I'd **remember!** if anything here wasn't intercompatible, that's a BAD
thing, far as I'm concerned, and I get rid of things that aren't
compatible.  Right now the 200LX has a 16Mb Delkin Devices CF card in a
PCMCIA adapter in the slot, works great, regularly use it to pass data
to/from my PC110s, 486 Sager laptops, and the 200LX.  Need to get the
Net card working some time.

  Mark

Bob Christopher wrote:
>
> Has anyone used the Sandisk w/PCMCIA adapter in the HP 1000CX? What
> drivers are needed and where does one obtain them?
>
>   Bob
>
> Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
> email mailto:bc@chisp.net          website http://chisp.net/~bc
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:17:11 -0800
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              Mark Willis 
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Best to jump to http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/pc110.html and read up
there - GOOD web site for many PDA's including the 200LX - it'll point
you to
http://mail.webstream.net:8181/guest/RemoteListSummary/PC110_Discussion
(which is the PC110 general list), a good place to ask around.

There's usually one every week or so for sale.  Good little machines, if
a little battery-hungry compared to the LX.

  Mark

Don E. Weatherly wrote:
>
> Anyone have a PC 110 for sale or trade?

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:37:32 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Mark Willis 
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Not counting engineering time, here;

Injection molding is indeed pretty cheap, when you run off a run of
10,000+ identical parts;  You're talking about making a mold for the new
"upper deck" (upper half of the lower case surrounding the keyboard),
another for the space bar, another for the Enter key, and another for
the other keys - then making, what, 1000 of each part?  I'd suggest you
talk to an injection molding shop; last thing I priced that was IMO
easier to do, the mold was $1000+, PER mold (and this was a GOOD, cheap
place);  Then, more is charged for each part moulded;  You'd then have
to find a good wear-resistant silkscreen ink to silkscreen the key
legends on, and then find a way to perhaps coat those legends, to keep
that silkscreened legend from wearing off in a week;  you'd need to have
2 runs of key caps, 1 white, 1 black (for the number keys etc.)  And the
100LX and 1000CX folks will want black runs of that "upper deck" to
match their case color, probably 

I'd guess about, $10,000 up front for a run of 1000 keyboards, just for
the parts;  Probably $5,000 if you just run 100.  It gets pricey.  Then
you get to silkscreen legends onto keycaps.  Just guesses, but from some
(not super recent) experience;  Maybe if you find a "hungry" shop that
wants business badly, you can get lower numbers (and they get to stay in
business).  Best to call or visit and ask and get estimates from people.

Maybe hot-stamp legends into keycaps and then fill the stamping with a
coloring agent?  Think creatively, I'm tired (it's 3:35am here) so you
maybe can solve this.

Of course, if you're a "real" touchtypist, you don't need legends ,
that'd be a little less expensive, I still am concerned that you'll find
the pricing is a little richer than you'd like, and much of it up front.

This all may change if you can find someone with the right "Santa Claus
Machine", one of those machines you can feed a 3-D CAD file that'll then
make that part for you from plastic powder or plastic resin;  Those tend
to be somewhat slow for many parts, too, as each takes a minute or so
(I'd do several parts in parallel at once, I guess?)  Also, some of the
parts made this way are sort of fragile, great for a prototype but not
up to being used daily for 8 hours for a year.  Could make yourself one,
anyways   Those "Santa Claus" machines are *expensive*.  *Want* one,
though   They're rare, because they're so expensive.

  Mark (Not happy to bear such tidings;  Truth is Truth, though.)

Nicholas Chan wrote:
>
> Sorry if this sounds odd, but today, I really noticed one thing about the Psion 5 and the
> HP200LX. The Psion 5 has no gaps between the keys, thus being able to use 100%
> key pressable areas for keys. The 200LX has TONS of keyboard estate and teeny
> weenie button keys.
>
> I was wondering if there was a thing that Mack or someone could do to just replace the
> upper top layer of keys with similar Psion 5 100% keyboard estate area usage,
> perhaps without the key pressing depth of the Psion 5 (just maintaining the same ole
> click). If created in build in injection molding, I think that this would be relatively cheap to
> manufacture and reinstall; just have to take the old keyboard sticker and plastic keys
> off and just replace it with the bigger keys.
>
> Ideas anyone? Or am I just delusional?
>
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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:46:37 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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From:         Stefan Peichl 
Subject:      Y2K bug in FV.COM
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Vernon Buerg's LIST comes with the plugin FV to view archives.
If you press the 'v' key of LIST to view the content of a ZIP
file, then every file, added after 1.1.2000 has a date of
1.1.80. This is only cosmetic, but also means, you can no
longer control the content of a ZIP file using LIST with FV.
My version of FV is 1.45. Any newer releases available?

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:58:42 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Mike Wagstaff 
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From:         Mike Wagstaff 
Subject:      Attributing posts in Post/LX
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Hi everyone,

Does anyone know of an automatic way of attributing posts in
Post/LX using PE? For example, a simple line like "Mr. X
wrote:" would be fine.

Thanks,

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:14:08 -0500
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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From:         Al Kind 
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Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:10:22 -0500 (EST)

Hey Mike(and all):

  I use POSTH by Tony Hutchins...available on SUPER:

> Name: posth2.zip
> Title: POSTH
> Version: 2.0
> Author: Tony Hutchins
> Note: POSTH is a utility that will add a configurable header
>    line to a message you are editing in POST/LX. Very
>    flexible. Copyrighted freeware.

Cheers...AJKind

11m40s ago ...
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Mike Wagstaff wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Does anyone know of an automatic way of attributing posts in
> Post/LX using PE? For example, a simple line like "Mr. X
> wrote:" would be fine.
>
> Thanks,
>
>  -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨
>
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>
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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:21:22 -0600
Reply-To:     Chris Lott 
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From:         Chris Lott 
Subject:      OT: MS Word W3.1 Wanted
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In the research you guys have done for old and/or abandoned software
for DOS and Win 3.0, has anyone encountered a copy of Mircosoft Word
that is made for Win3.1?  I ask because a minister at my church was
given a nice laptop computer that runs Win3.1, and he wants to use
Word.  He is quite content to use RTF format for transfer to a desktop
computer, as I believe he mostly just edits simple text-based files.  I
thought Microsoft has released some older programs to the public - is
this one of them?

-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:23:18 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Martin Bergvill 
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From:         Martin Bergvill 
Subject:      Psion 5Mx was Re: 200LX Internal Keyboard replacement
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On 16 Jan 2000 11:21:14 -0800, Nicholas Chan  wrote:

> Sorry if this sounds odd, but today, I really noticed one thing about the Psion 5 and the
> HP200LX. The Psion 5 has no gaps between the keys, thus being able to use 100%
> key pressable areas for keys. The 200LX has TONS of keyboard estate and teeny
> weenie button keys.

Sorry I can not comment on your keyboardquestion, but I just wanted to
tell you my experience with Psion keyboards.

I told my father to get a Psion 5mx. (Sorry I could not get myself to
tell him to get a Hplx:-). And I have been playing around with it for
a couple of days:

Keyboard on Psion 5Mx are crap. Maybe because it is so new, but you
have to press directly on top of the key to get the letter. Also there
are no way to get norwegian characters without using the FN button. I
had also some problems with typing two letters quickly after one
another like "Bergvill" this would be "Bergvil" when you are trying to
type fast. I could not type as fast as on the Hp, but this may improve
with training/wear of the keys..

Also there are no way to get the date/time like on the Hplx
Fn+Time/Fn+Date. You also could not adjust the screen tilt like on the
Hplx. This forced me to use backlight where I with my Hplx could adjust
the screen to get enough light on the screen. The screen on the Hplx
was better in contrast I think, this was probably because of the
touchscreen on the Psion.

Software: I have not used it that much. But for my dad it's nice to sync
with Outlook for mail/contacts and Agende. But for me I did not like
the look and feel of these applications.

Agenda:

When you were adding a Todo it always showed in the todolist regardless
of what due date you set for it. I like to set Todos in the future and
have it show up only when it's due. The entering of Todo's and
appointment is better on the Hplx, but I guess this is also be better
after doing it for a while.(It is faster on the Hplx, you have to use
the pen alot on the Psion..maybe better with training)

Databases: You could create your own database. But it was not as good
as the Hplx database program. You could not add checkfields/catagory
field/option buttons. I will have to look into this some more. But at
this point it seems that this is the case.

Jotter/Notebook..well it worked almost as the Hp Notebook and was the
best application on the Psion.

All the other applications: Well web was better because of more
"colors"... I have not tested all the applications yet..

Conclusion: Psion 5Mx/Ericsson Mc218 is okey for someone who have not used
a Hplx :-))

When I was using the Psion I though it was a cool device. But when I
got back to the Hplx I smacked myself for thinking that :-)) I will
stay with the Hplx for a long time!

--
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-Palmtop friendly sig...

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:23:21 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Martin Bergvill 
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From:         Martin Bergvill 
Subject:      Re: Socket LP-E CF+ Ethernet card works on 200LX!
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On 17 Jan 2000 01:22:51 -0800, Josef Meyer  wrote:

> Well, I try to tell as well as possible the steps:

Thanks.. I will look into a ethernetconnection soon..

> I used WWW/LX from D&A Software.

Me too..

> 1. I use the LP-E CF+ Ethernet card from Socket together with a Compact
> Flash adapter
> (http://www.socketcom.com)

This tutorial should also work with the En2216-x cards too? I have
ordered a -2 card and will set it up when I get it..

> 2. In my autoexec.bat I have a line
> c:\bin\lxcic /l
> that loads lxcic as TSR (instead of the original d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1).

Do you have to load it as a tsr? I consider running a batchfile when I
insert my networkcard. I use a batch file when I enable the modemcard.

> 5. Open a DOS shell (best to terminate Sysmgr or use Maxdos)
> and run the command
> LXEN2216 0x66
> from the command line.
> This loads a packet driver.
> (To unload the driver: TERMIN 0x66)

This can also be done from a batchfile. I like to have icons/batchfile
in the applicationmanager to do these kinds of things.

> 6. Add a setup for Ethernet connection to WWW/LX according to the doc
> coming with WWW/LX.
> (http://www.dasoft.com)

I have done that, so it is just a matter of testing it to see if it is
working.

> 7. Physically connect the LX to the LAN.

I have a 5 port Tp hub to connect to. This should not be a problem

> 8. Only if you want to have DHCP:
> Fetch dhcp.zip from D&A Software
> (ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/dhcp.zip),

Hmm here is where I am a bit uncertain. What does Dhcp do? I have a
Windows network where I connect a laptop and a desktop to a hub and now
the Hp. Do I have to run Dhcp to connect to this network? The desktop
assigns a lan ipaddress for the "members" of the network.

I also share the internetconnection on the desktop with the laptop. I
would like to do this with my hp too. The desktop connects to the
internet via isdn whenever it "feels" the laptop wants to go online.
(Win 98 SE)

Will Www/lx be able to find the "outside world" through my network when
the desktop is online? I guess I will have to just try it out.

> 10. Play with all programs working with WWW/LX
> (HV, POST, PING, FINGER, TELNET, FTP),
> available from D&A Software (http://www.dasoft.com)

Yes if I get the above to work I can directly download mail/news to the
Hplx while I am sufing the web with my desktop pc. This will save me
online time. I would not have to reconnect with my desktop to surf the
web when the hplx is finished with mail/news.

TIA

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-Palmtop friendly sig...

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:34:19 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" 
Subject:      Re: Y2K bug in FV.COM
Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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> Vernon Buerg's LIST comes with the plugin FV to view archives.
> If you press the 'v' key of LIST to view the content of a ZIP


Funny, you mention this  - he does have a web site which I visited just
last night.  Apparently, the registered, newest version of LIST is y2k
compliant but does not mention the sub-utilities.  I don't recall the
url but it might be just as simple as www.buerg.com.  A search should
find it.

I don't know if the current version is LARGE disk/directory compliant.
On my desktop, I get "too many files" messages these days.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:58:18 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg 
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From:         Tomas Moberg 
Subject:      Re: Palm to LX IR question
Comments: To: Terry Owen 
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I guess You could use IR.exe from the ftp section at www.dasoft.com
Its IRDA for the hp.
I have not tried my self. But my guess is that it would work.


> Ok - I know that 2 formats are incompatible but is there anyone who
> knows about IR that would be interested in writing a program that
> would allow communication between the 2 palmtops?
>

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:26:44 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              A Meshar 
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From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: Y2K bug in FV.COM
Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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Stefan,

I can confirm the bahaviour with FV.COM v1.45. Files added
to an archive after 1 Jan 2000 get the date 1/1/80...

I do not think there is a newer version.

The actual ZIP file shows the correct date, (PKZIP -V
filename) internally, it is just FV.COM that has an issue.
Since it cannot do much more than display, I wonder about
the impact.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:22:31 -0800
Reply-To:     patrickwest@uswest.net
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From:         Patrick West 
Subject:      Re: OT: MS Word W3.1 Wanted
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Chris,
Try any of the cyberexchanges, one in Portland has several copies of
Word6.

Chris Lott wrote:
>
> I ask because a minister at my church was
> given a nice laptop computer that runs Win3.1, and he wants to use
> Word.  He is quite content to use RTF format for transfer to a desktop
M$ has released a converter file for word 6 that allows it to import
Word97 and word2000 files. And Word97sr2,2000 both include import
filters for word 6.




> I thought Microsoft has released some older programs to the public - is
> this one of them?
No it is not one that has been released. Version 6 is the last windows
3.1 version.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:49:35 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Martin Bergvill 
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From:         Martin Bergvill 
Subject:      Re: Socket LP-E CF+ Ethernet card works on 200LX!
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:33:14 -0800, "Keith Grider"  wrote:

> Martin,
>
> IN response to your question on DCHP, this is Dynamic Configuration Host
> Protocol (I think). It does dynamically assign the gateway and up address to
> DCHP enabled computers on the network.

> In Win9x, run winipcfg to see what IP
> address was assigned by the host. If you want to share the connection with a
> gateway (win98SE or real server/gateway), you will either have to manually
> assign the address and gateway. (Has anybody tried this, It should work.).

Thanks for your reply..

Well some time ago I ran winipcfg on the laptop which is connected to a
hub and then to a Win 98SE machine-> internet in my private little
network.

I took that ip address and inserted it in the Www.cfg file ethernet
settings.

I got the Acctoncard today and it took me about 2 minutes to get the
hplx to connect through the network and my desktop to the internet. It
worked "out of the box". I had no idea that I was going to get it right
the first time. I was planning to modify the orginal mail to the list
about this, but since it worked it flew out of my outbox before I
realised what had happen :-))

Now I will try to map some networkdrives. This was not easy. I followed
the guide from Www.hplx.net and got everything installed on my hp. But
I got a errormessage when I ran net.exe start. It said something like
:Error blabla Bindings"

To map these drives is not that importent. So I will not use some much
energy to get this to work But it would have been nice..

TIA

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 11:53:20 -0800
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              Steven Lawson 
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From:         Steven Lawson 
Subject:      My 2mb 100LX on eBay
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It has come time to embrace my 8mb 200LX and bid a tearful goodbye
to my trusty 2mb 100LX (fade in violins)... :-)

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=239935365

Be the proud owner of the actual palmtop that made Goin' Postal a
reality! (remainder of orchestra starts playing) 

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:56:39 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." 
Subject:      Re: Attributing posts in Post/LX
Comments: To: Mike Wagstaff 
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Mike,

> Does anyone know of an automatic way of attributing posts in
> Post/LX using PE? For example, a simple line like "Mr. X
> wrote:" would be fine.

In the particular mailbox section enter:

   Wrote=3DMr. %s wrote



Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 14:58:53 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Hans Peter Staber 
Subject:      Re: Attributing posts in Post/LX
Comments: To: Mike Wagstaff 
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Mike Wagstaff wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Does anyone know of an automatic way of attributing posts in
> Post/LX using PE? For example, a simple line like "Mr. X
> wrote:" would be fine.

My standard e-mail box in post.cfg reads like this :


ÝMail¨
Alias=Electronic Mail
APOP=0
RPA=0
Timeout=60
Del=1
Sep=0
SMTP=smtp.compuserve.com
POP=pop.compuserve.com
Special=n nb
SpecialSMTP=smtp.netway.at
Dir=c:\mail
Login=y
Pass=x
VolatilePOP=0
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The line "Wrote.." defines what you ask in you question.
The line "Template.." defines a standard e-mail template which replaces
Post.tpl for this box.


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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:09:40 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff 
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On 17 Jan 2000 08:13:45 -0800, Al Kind  wrote:

> Hey Mike(and all):
>
>   I use POSTH by Tony Hutchins...available on SUPER:

Excellent! Thank you for the recommendation Al, and thank you
Tony for the neat little program!

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Thanks, I'll give it a try.

Terry


On 17 Jan 00 at 18:58, Tomas Moberg wrote:

> I guess You could use IR.exe from the ftp section at www.dasoft.com
> Its IRDA for the hp. I have not tried my self. But my guess is that
> it would work.
>
>
> > Ok - I know that 2 formats are incompatible but is there anyone who
> > knows about IR that would be interested in writing a program that
> > would allow communication between the 2 palmtops?
> >
>
>       /tomas moberg
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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:40:25 -0800
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Steve,

> It has come time to embrace my 8mb 200LX and bid a tearful goodbye
> to my trusty 2mb 100LX (fade in violins)... :-)
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=239935365
>
> Be the proud owner of the actual palmtop that made Goin' Postal a
> reality! (remainder of orchestra starts playing) 

That's a historical piece of equipment! I have tried
stealing Andreas' old 200LX where he coded most of HV, WWW,
and POST, but I think he was on to me :-) ...

  Avi

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:38:36 +0930
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A Meshar writes:
> Andreas has been pulling his hair (and mine, proverbially),
> wanting me to post that Post/LX does not support BCC. his
> reasoning is that more and more servers will become "lazy"
> in this MS-dominated world of software.

An SMTP server that transmits unaltered a Bcc header is
operating correctly according to RFC 821 (also known as
Internet Standard number 10).  It is not "lazy",
it is "correct" :-)

An SMTP server that strips a Bcc header out of a message is in
violation of RFC821.  The only thing that an SMTP server is
allowed to do is prepend a "Received:" and/or "Return-Path:"
header.

It is the responsibility of the client (POST/LX, Goin'
Postal, LXMTA) to handle Bcc, not the server (the SMTP port
at the ISP).  A client that does not strip the Bcc header
from messages going to recipients other than the author or
each individual bcc recipient (who is only allowed to see a
bcc line with their address only and none of the other Bcc
addresses) is in violation of RFC822.

> I recall that Rod posted that LXMTA does is properly - what
> do you mean, Rod? Can you please elaborate a bit?

While extracting the list of target addresses you have to
search all three of the To:, Cc: and Bcc: lines (whoops, just
realised that you also have to look at Resent-To:, Resent-Cc:
and Resent-Bcc: - looks like LXMTA doesn't support the
Resent-* headers ... yet).  The list of target addresses is
then used in the SMTP "RCPT TO" command.  This is the
"envelope" of the message.

Then when transfering the message itself you have to strip out
the Bcc header line (and any continuation lines following
it).

It's all explained in RFC822, but it does get complex.

Now I have to go and fix LXMTA to understand Resent-*, lest I
be accused of being the pot calling the kettle black :-)


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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 16:18:21 -0800
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Ro Whitby wrote:

> A Meshar writes:
> > Andreas has been pulling his hair (and mine, proverbially),
> > wanting me to post that Post/LX does not support BCC. his
> > reasoning is that more and more servers will become "lazy"
> > in this MS-dominated world of software.
>
> An SMTP server that transmits unaltered a Bcc header is
> operating correctly according to RFC 821 (also known as
> Internet Standard number 10).  It is not "lazy",
> it is "correct" :-)

Aha. Thanks. I had that expression for the author of
Post/LX :) ...

> An SMTP server that strips a Bcc header out of a message is in
> violation of RFC821.  The only thing that an SMTP server is
> allowed to do is prepend a "Received:" and/or "Return-Path:"
> header.
>
> It is the responsibility of the client (POST/LX, Goin'
> Postal, LXMTA) to handle Bcc, not the server (the SMTP port
> at the ISP).  A client that does not strip the Bcc header
> from messages going to recipients other than the author or
> each individual bcc recipient (who is only allowed to see a
> bcc line with their address only and none of the other Bcc
> addresses) is in violation of RFC822.
>
> > I recall that Rod posted that LXMTA does is properly - what
> > do you mean, Rod? Can you please elaborate a bit?
>
> While extracting the list of target addresses you have to
> search all three of the To:, Cc: and Bcc: lines (whoops, just
> realised that you also have to look at Resent-To:, Resent-Cc:
> and Resent-Bcc: - looks like LXMTA doesn't support the
> Resent-* headers ... yet).  The list of target addresses is
> then used in the SMTP "RCPT TO" command.  This is the
> "envelope" of the message.
>
> Then when transfering the message itself you have to strip out
> the Bcc header line (and any continuation lines following
> it).
>
> It's all explained in RFC822, but it does get complex.
>
> Now I have to go and fix LXMTA to understand Resent-*, lest I
> be accused of being the pot calling the kettle black :-)

I appreciate the detail of your reply. Thank you. You
certainly help out.

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Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:22:11 -0600
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After all the warnings I've read about file corruption when opening the same
file using Software Carousel, I somehow managed to do it anyway. Sure
enough, when I now try to open my file called 2000.adb I get a 'cannot open
file' message.  I tried checking it with DBEHECK.EXE but that only buried me
in error messages.  Although I have a recent (1 week old) backup, it sure
would be great to recover the damaged file.  Does anyone have any ideas on a
recovery process ?

Thanks
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Ted Brown wrote:

> After all the warnings I've read about file corruption when opening
> the same file using Software Carousel, I somehow managed to do it
> anyway. Sure enough, when I now try to open my file called 2000.adb I
> get a 'cannot open file' message.  I tried checking it with
> DBEHECK.EXE but that only buried me in error messages.  Although I
> have a recent (1 week old) backup, it sure would be great to recover
> the damaged file.  Does anyone have any ideas on a recovery process ?

I did the same thing a few weeks ago with my journal.adb file.  The way I
was able to fix it was with Garlic on SUPER; it did a darn good job and
restored my .ADB to its original self.  I didn't even know it worked with
Appointment Book files, but it does!  Let me know if it doesn't work for
you, as there are a couple of other tricks to try with the dreaded "Cannot
open file" error.

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IT WORKED !   The first try resulted in  a 'record not found' message.
Then, when I pointed GARLIC to the file created on  the first try, it worked
great!  Thanks for your help!  Now, to the original culprit...  This occured
because I didn't realize that I had opened a second  Sys.Mgr on Software
Carousel.  What's the best way to avoid this in the future ?



>On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Ted Brown wrote:
>
>> After all the warnings I've read about file corruption when opening
>> the same file using Software Carousel, I somehow managed to do it
>> anyway. Sure enough, when I now try to open my file called 2000.adb I
>> get a 'cannot open file' message.  I tried checking it with
>> DBEHECK.EXE but that only buried me in error messages.  Although I
>> have a recent (1 week old) backup, it sure would be great to recover
>> the damaged file.  Does anyone have any ideas on a recovery process ?
>
>I did the same thing a few weeks ago with my journal.adb file.  The way I
>was able to fix it was with Garlic on SUPER; it did a darn good job and
>restored my .ADB to its original self.  I didn't even know it worked with
>Appointment Book files, but it does!  Let me know if it doesn't work for
>you, as there are a couple of other tricks to try with the dreaded "Cannot
>open file" error.
>
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Ted Brown wrote:

> IT WORKED !  The first try resulted in a 'record not found' message.
> Then, when I pointed GARLIC to the file created on the first try, it
> worked great!  Thanks for your help!  Now, to the original culprit...
> This occured because I didn't realize that I had opened a second
> Sys.Mgr on Software Carousel.  What's the best way to avoid this in
> the future ?

I think the latest version of Software Carousel prevents you from opening
up two Appointment Book applications at all, doesn't it, Hal, or Avi?

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 07:21:05 +0100
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              Martin Bergvill 
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On 17 Jan 2000 08:13:45 -0800, Al Kind  wrote:

> Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:10:22 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hey Mike(and all):
>
>   I use POSTH by Tony Hutchins...available on SUPER:

Me too. Is there anybody who knows if this program is still in
development? I would like that it works correct with norwegian
characters which it don't do at the moment.

--
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-Palmtop friendly sig...

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:35:13 +0100
Reply-To:     Martin Bergvill <90199462@mobilpost.com>
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This message did not go throug to the server on the first try.. I am resending it..maybe there is some nice info for somebody else..

Guenther wrote:

>Martin,

>What type of PCMCIA ISDN hardware are you
using in your hp200lx?

I am _not_ using isdn with my Hp200..I am
using www/lx on my _laptop_ to take
advantage of the isdn speed.

I can however connect the isdn phone
directly to the seriel port w/adapter to
the hp200lx and connect to the internet.

But my Ds Hp200lx will not do more than
approx 20.000. So to run www/lx from the
card inserted in the laptop is the best
solution for me.

Here is a url for the special isdn phone I
have which has a built in isdnadapter which
has a regular rs232 connecter and two
analog ports:

http://www.todos.se/surfphoneindex.htm

http://www.telenor.no/pos/produkter/todos_12
8.shtml

The last one is in norwegian but with a
nice picture..

If you are planning to get one, you should
buy the latest one which supports 128kb and
sms messaging. Named Todos Duo 128. The
phone I got has some bugs and I will
exchange it in a 128

Regards
--
--
Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
"This is probably the best button to press"
-From the Hichhikers Guide to the Galaxy

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:16:44 -0600
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              Ed Keefe 
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David, (and Ted Brown):

Version 7.02 of Software Carousel from Thaddeus Computing does prevent one
from opening the same .xDB file in two SysMgr sessions.
If SC was purchased from Thaddeus, send an email to hal@thaddeus.com to
request the single file needed to update SC to this last version.
.ed.ÝPTP¨

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:07:23 -0500
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> Date:    Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:02:19 +0000
> From:    Bob Newins 
> Subject: Re: Off Topic : Omnibook 800CT
>
> Jon,
>
> Aren't the 800CT's the last of the instant-on too?  =Bob=
>
OB900s are W2K ACPI ready (why I got one) so should have instant-on there. I
expect to load W98 or Millenium on here at some point using one of my spare
drives and will see if instant-on works there. The APM software from Phoenix
allows Suspend, then after 3-4 hr. goes into Hibernate. From the keyboard
you can suspend or hibernate directly, but NT doesn't have the power
management support that W95/W98/W2K have, and has assorted other stuff that
DOS/W3.x don't have so I don't think Im currently in a position to
definitively answer *YET*.

Jon

> > Adjusting to the shock of Isopoint/Glidepad on
> > 500MHz Omnibook 900B and NT4
> >  - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - -
>

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              Martin Bergvill 
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I have now purchased a Accton En 2216-2. It works very well on my
homenetwork. I have made a Ethernet section in the post.cfg.

I will try to connect the hp to my schools network tomorrow. I have
tried dhcp and I get a ipaddress on my home network.

My question is do dhcp/ip-up override the ethernetsection concerning
ipaddress in the post.cfg? I have my homenetwork ipaddress in the cfg.

Should I add a second ethernetsection where I edit/add the ipaddress I
get assigned at school? Or is it enough to run ip-up and not add a
second section?

I have no idea if I can connect to the schools network. I think they
have static ipaddresses. How can I find out what ipaddress the node I
am using has under Win NT?

I am a rookie regarding this..

TIA

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:04:34 -0500
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              Russel Brooks 
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> ...  Now, to the original culprit...  This occured
> because I didn't realize that I had opened a second  Sys.Mgr on Software
> Carousel.  What's the best way to avoid this in the future ?

For me the best way is to ONLY run SysMgr in SC area 1 and let SC start
it as part of the boot process.  Since _I_ never start SysMgr manager I
don't worry about starting more than 1 in multiple SC areas.  If I need
a SysMgr function I have to switch to SC area 1 to use it.

I tried to come up with a way to prevent SysMgr from starting in the
wrong area, like I prevent multiple WWW/LXs, but the fact that "100"
is a built in command and "200.COM" is in D:\BIN which is in my PATH
make it impossible to hide or front end the SysMgr commands.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:25:45 -0000
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Hi,
I'm new to the list & to the HP 200LX which I bought by auction because it
seemed pretty cheap (#68.00).  From reading this list it seems that I've got
myself a good piece of equipment.

However, it came bare without even a manual.  Does anyone know where I can
buy accessories in the UK?  I'm especially interested in connecting my 200LX
to my PC.  Pointers to any good websites would also be appreciated.

Thanks

Caron

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:49:03 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein 
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<>

Even earlier versions (6.x) didn't allow for APPT files to be opened in
separate sessions. 7.07 (which we have been shipping for well over a year --
see disk for label) does not allow 2 sessions of phone, appt, ndb,
worldtime.  It does allow two GDB sessions.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 11:41:46 -0800
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              Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM
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All,

Recived this from The Association of Shareware Professionals. Looks like
Christopher E. Long cannot be found.

Joe Buford
---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on 01/18/2000
11:35 AM ---------------------------





"Harold Holmes"  on 01/18/2000 11:23:49 AM








 To:      Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES@Hughes

 cc:



 Subject: Re: Visionary Endeavors








Joe,

I looked at my records and I do not see that he is a member any more. I
don't keep past records here so I'm not sure what to tell you. Could be he
just went inactive or out of business, hard to tell anymore.

Best Regards,
Harold Holmes
President - Association of Shareware Professionals

----- Original Message -----
From: 
To: 
Sent: January 18, 2000 12:42 PM
Subject: Visionary Endeavors


>
>
> Mr. Holmes,
>
> I an trying to contact Mr. Christopher E. Long of Visionary Endeavers,
P.O. Box
> 330439, Atlantic Beach FL 32233-0439. I am using Family Scrapbook (FSB)
and
> would like to register the program. The phone number in the fsb.doc is
> 904-247-0062. No one at that number knows of Chris Long or Visionary
Endeavers.
> Also the email address of chris.long@medinfo.jax.fl.us, bounced.
>
> The fsb.doc also references his membership in the Association of Shareware
> Professionals. Can you help?
>
> Joe Buford
> joseph.buford@hsc.com
>

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              Barry Marks 
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I have Word 5.5 for Dos.  I'm pretty sure I downloaded that from Microsoft's
site and that they've made it available.  If youd like a copy, email me at
barry@fbtc.net and let me know.

Barry

>In the research you guys have done for old and/or abandoned software
>for DOS and Win 3.0, has anyone encountered a copy of Mircosoft Word
>that is made for Win3.1?  I ask because a minister at my church was
>given a nice laptop computer that runs Win3.1, and he wants to use
>Word.  He is quite content to use RTF format for transfer to a desktop
>computer, as I believe he mostly just edits simple text-based files.  I
>thought Microsoft has released some older programs to the public - is
>this one of them?

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:55:14 -0600
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              Barry Marks 
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The url to download Dos Word 5.5 from Microsoft's site is:
http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloaditems/Wd55_eng.exe

Barry

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The HP 200LX User's Guide is available online as a .PDF file (Adobe Acrobat)
at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Ridge/7835/hp200lx.pdf.

You will find there are several ways to connect the 200LX with a personal
computer running Windows 95/98, some of these don't work so well with
Windows NT.

The fastest and most direct approach is to use a flash card in the PCMCIA
slot to move files back and forth.  It's easiest for laptop owners, but
there are a number of good adapters for desktop systems as well.

Next is the HP Connectivity Kit, especially useful for converting files and
working with them on the desktop.

You can always use the features of the Traveling Software Laplink Remote
Access that HP included with the palmtop.  For details on its use, see
http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/LLRA.TXT.

And there's Transfile Win200 as well; free software, although it has some
limitations.  You can find it described online at
http://www.palmtop.net/transfile.html or just download it from
http://whp-web1.extweb.hp.com/cposupport/handheld_computers/software/tf103.e
xe.html.

The best stuff is almost all located at the SUPER (simply unbeatable palmtop
essentials repository) site http://www.palmtop.net/super.html.

Alan

>From: Caron Pearson Ýmailto:caron.p@CWCOM.NET¨
>Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 12:26 PM
>...
>However, it came bare without even a manual.  Does anyone know where I can
>buy accessories in the UK?  I'm especially interested in connecting my
200LX
>to my PC.  Pointers to any good websites would also be appreciated.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:16:54 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              dd diaz 
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From:         dd diaz 
Subject:      Word 6 for DOS. Was: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 16 Jan 2000 to 17 Jan
              2000 (#2000-27)
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Hi.  Anyone knows why Microsoft is giving away Word  5.5 and
not Word 6 for DOS? I see that all the time on Ebay.  What's
the difference?

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: Barry Marks 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 18, 2000 7:46:09 PM GMT
Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 16 Jan 2000 to 17 Jan 2000
(#2000-27)


I have Word 5.5 for Dos.  I'm pretty sure I downloaded that
from Microsoft's
site and that they've made it available.  If youd like a
copy, email me at
barry@fbtc.net and let me know.

Barry

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 00:47:06 +0000
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              b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Jon,

Let me know about the instant-on for the OB900 after you get
a chance to try it.  Thanks.   =Bob=

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:18:29 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Marta Pierce 
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From:         Marta Pierce 
Subject:      Scott Moore's disks
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Hey Scott,
Now that we have all signed up for the payola on this list, can I send
you money that way? Lot easier and less hassle for me.
I would love one of your disks!

Marta

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:52:59 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Jeff Johns 
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I have been using x-jack modems for years in my Newtons and Lx and have
recently been using an ACE 14.4 modem since LXCIC allows you to power =
down
the modem with it still in the slot but I have always wanted more speed. =
I
went and got myself a SimpleTech 33.6 off eBay but it drew too much power
and 'nuked' my LX so that wasn't an option.

Well.... I have discovered the answers to my needs and thought I would =
share
it with everyone, since I'm sure there are others like me that want to go
FAST! The answer is a 56K modem that Thaddeus is selling. It's a PC card
modem that LXCIC recognizes and IS able to power down while it's in the =
LX
and not being used. The modem appears to draw about the same current as =
my
X-Jack 14.4 modem but it's a 56K! I am connecting consistently at 45K or
higher and able to maintain these speeds. I'm sure that there will be =
some
discussions about whether or not it's really that fast but it defiantely
seems to be 3-4 times quicker than my 14.4 X-Jack.

I have been using the W2 command to have it report the connection speed. =
I
will admit that it took a bit of playing with to get it to maintain a
comfortable, quick connection speed. Mack aided me there and I have been
able to add S37=3D?? where ?? equals a certain number, in my case I have =
it
set for about 29 or 30 which seems to work great with my ISP. You may =
have
to play with the settings to get it comfortable with your ISP's modems as =
is
sometimes the case with desktop internal modems.

I have been using the modem with WWW/LX, Goin' Postal and LXTCP and in
particular LXTelnet. It is so cool to be able to have my LX do dial-up at
the same speed as my desktop but yet not get so hot as to 'fry' the LX.

The modem does use a dongle but the speed increase is definately worth =
the
extra hassle of the dongle over the X-Jack for me. I believe that Thaddeus
is selling the for around $100 and if you do a lot of dial-up with your =
LX
like I do with mine it's money well spent. The bonus is that you also get =
a
cool modem for use with your laptop if you have one.

Anyways, I know this has sounded like a plug for Thaddeus and I guess in =
a
way that it is, but they have continued to support our 'dead' platform =
and
continue to find new products such as this modem that work with it so Hal
and the gang deserve a plug and a heartfelt "thank you!". 56K modems that
work in the LX rule!

Jeff

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               --  Jefferson County Sheriff's Department  --
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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:07:47 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Fryday 
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From:         Fryday 
Subject:      Re: Like Low-Power X-Jack But Need More Speed?
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Talking of modems, what was that super low-power modem that used to be sold
specifically for the LX?
Speed is not as much an issue for me as is power consumption...

Anyone to refresh my memory?

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Johns 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2000 6:52 PM
Subject: Like Low-Power X-Jack But Need More Speed?


I have been using x-jack modems for years in my Newtons and Lx and have
recently been using an ACE 14.4 modem since LXCIC allows you to power down
the modem with it still in the slot but I have always wanted more speed. I
went and got myself a SimpleTech 33.6 off eBay but it drew too much power
and 'nuked' my LX so that wasn't an option.

Well.... I have discovered the answers to my needs and thought I would share
it with everyone, since I'm sure there are others like me that want to go
FAST! The answer is a 56K modem that Thaddeus is selling. It's a PC card
modem that LXCIC recognizes and IS able to power down while it's in the LX
and not being used. The modem appears to draw about the same current as my
X-Jack 14.4 modem but it's a 56K! I am connecting consistently at 45K or
higher and able to maintain these speeds. I'm sure that there will be some
discussions about whether or not it's really that fast but it defiantely
seems to be 3-4 times quicker than my 14.4 X-Jack.

I have been using the W2 command to have it report the connection speed. I
will admit that it took a bit of playing with to get it to maintain a
comfortable, quick connection speed. Mack aided me there and I have been
able to add S37=?? where ?? equals a certain number, in my case I have it
set for about 29 or 30 which seems to work great with my ISP. You may have
to play with the settings to get it comfortable with your ISP's modems as is
sometimes the case with desktop internal modems.

I have been using the modem with WWW/LX, Goin' Postal and LXTCP and in
particular LXTelnet. It is so cool to be able to have my LX do dial-up at
the same speed as my desktop but yet not get so hot as to 'fry' the LX.

The modem does use a dongle but the speed increase is definately worth the
extra hassle of the dongle over the X-Jack for me. I believe that Thaddeus
is selling the for around $100 and if you do a lot of dial-up with your LX
like I do with mine it's money well spent. The bonus is that you also get a
cool modem for use with your laptop if you have one.

Anyways, I know this has sounded like a plug for Thaddeus and I guess in a
way that it is, but they have continued to support our 'dead' platform and
continue to find new products such as this modem that work with it so Hal
and the gang deserve a plug and a heartfelt "thank you!". 56K modems that
work in the LX rule!

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:30:14 -0600
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              Jeff Johns 
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:07:47 -0800, Fryday  wrote:

> Talking of modems, what was that super low-power modem that used to be =
sold
> specifically for the LX?
> Speed is not as much an issue for me as is power consumption...

I'm not sure which one you are talking about, maybe an external pocket
modem? I have used this 56K modem with just the LX and batteries, no AC
adapter and it downlaoded mail fine. I don't know how long it would run =
on
batteries only, but it does work for at least long enough for me to grab
mail a few times during the day.

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:40:57 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Bob Meyer 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Bob Meyer 
Subject:      Re: Word 6 for DOS. Was: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 16 Jan 2000 to 17
              Jan2000 (#2000-27)
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Word 6.0 will handle TrueType fonts.

Bob

dd diaz wrote:

> Hi.  Anyone knows why Microsoft is giving away Word  5.5 and
> not Word 6 for DOS? I see that all the time on Ebay.  What's
> the difference?
>
> Domingo
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Barry Marks 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Sent: January 18, 2000 7:46:09 PM GMT
> Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 16 Jan 2000 to 17 Jan 2000
> (#2000-27)
>
> I have Word 5.5 for Dos.  I'm pretty sure I downloaded that
> from Microsoft's
> site and that they've made it available.  If youd like a
> copy, email me at
> barry@fbtc.net and let me know.
>
> Barry
>
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Date:         Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:43:39 -0800
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              Steven Lawson 
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That would be the Smart Modular 2400 baud modem/6mb flashcard.  It draws
only 5ma idle and 25ma online.  I have one, and though it's slow it has
the benefit of actually working on alkaline batteries.

I'm selling either a XJ1144 or the above with my 100LX on eBay, depending
on which the winner prefers.  If I end up with the Smart Modular leftover
I might sell it here if someone wants it.  The 100LX bidding ends monday,
after that I'll know if I end up with an XJack or the other remaining.

> Talking of modems, what was that super low-power modem that used to be sold
> specifically for the LX?
> Speed is not as much an issue for me as is power consumption...

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 07:43:37 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." 
Subject:      Re: Like Low-Power X-Jack But Need More Speed?
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Jeff,

> I'm not sure which one you are talking about, maybe an external pocket
> modem? I have used this 56K modem with just the LX and batteries, no AC
> adapter and it downlaoded mail fine. I don't know how long it would run
> on
> batteries only, but it does work for at least long enough for me to =
grab
> mail a few times during the day.

Which pocket modem is that? Who is the manufacture? Is this a PCMCIA
modem?

What is your true line speed?

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 02:58:06 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Daniel Hertrich 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Daniel Hertrich 
Subject:      Re: Attributing posts in Post/LX
Comments: To: "Guenther Helmuth E." 
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Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
> In the particular mailbox section enter:
>
>    Wrote=Mr. %s wrote

It works! :-)  Thanks also from me!
GTX daniel

P.S.: I often wanted tu set up this feature, but I didn't because I
thought it would cost me much time - but it was just a 1 minute job!

--

Daniel Hertrich                 d.hertrich@gmx.de
homepage:                  http://daniel.hplx.net
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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:33:30 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Martin Bergvill 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Martin Bergvill 
Subject:      Post/Lx screws the subjectline when I reply..
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Hello..

I have problems with norwegian characters =E6=F8=E5 in the _subject_ line=
 in
Post/lx. I was wondering if somebody else have problems with their
special native (umlauts?) characters too.

If I download a message with norwegian character it shows up in the
list view with strange characters. If I open the message it shows the
correct characters.. If I reply to this message Post/Lx will screw up
the characters in the subjectline.

Then if I post this message everybody gives me a hard time because my
newsreader screws the subjectline. They say that my newsreader/poster
does not support 8 bit characters in the subjectline. When I reply I
reply in 7 bit and this screws the norwegian characters in the
subjectline. The Post/lx only support 7 bit printed quoteable?

Support Dasoft say that this is a newsserver problem, but everybody
else gets it right with their newsreader so this must be a Post/Lx
problem. They also told me that you are not supposed to use these
characters in the subject.

Is this correct? What does the RFC say about these special (umlaut?)
characters? Is this Microsofts fault too or is this a Post/Lx problem?

I "solve" the problem by editing the subjectline before I send it.

I would like these changes made to the next update of Post/Lx:

Norwegian characters works correct(german/other too?)
Follow up works correct (which it does not do right now)
Bcc work correct

TIA

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:05:04 -0000
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Hi,

Just a short message to say thanks to everyone for their help pointing me in
the right direction.

Regards,
Caron

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--- begin of forwarded message ---

Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:36:21 -0800
From: Bob Schultz 
To: mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu
Subject: exporting pbk files

Hi Al,

I'm wondering if you could help me, or at least steer me in the right
direction.  I'm trying to help my sister (fairly computer illiterate)
transfer her phone book address/number files into some common format
that could be read by a Palm III.  (i don't know if you have any
problems with the Palm versus HP, but you should know she's converting
against her will, as she loves the HP LX95 but it's days are
numbered!).   Is there some way to export the files into CSV or TXT or
something useful?  I've deduced that the .pbk format may be the
'microsoft phone book' format, but don't know what programs will read
this stuff.  and since i'm debugging this from 3000 miles away, i can't
easily play with it or check her manual.

thanks!
-bob


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Yago Systems                                 http://www.yagosys.com
Santa Clara, CA 95054                                (408) 878-6388



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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 07:41:16 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Jeff Johns 
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From:         Jeff Johns 
Subject:      Re: Like Low-Power X-Jack But Need More Speed?
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 07:43:37 +0100, "Guenther Helmuth E."  wrote:

> Which pocket modem is that? Who is the manufacture? Is this a PCMCIA
> modem?
>
> What is your true line speed?

It is a PCMCIA modem and using the W2 AT command to report line speed I =
can
honestly say that I am connecting at 45K or above.

Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:08:50 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              "Striegel, Alan" 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         "Striegel, Alan" 
Subject:      FW: exporting pbk files
Comments: To: "bob@YAGOSYS.COM" 
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I don't recall if the HP 95LX had any features of its own to export the .PBK
files into some other format, but the HP Connectivity Kit for the 95LX can
translate between several formats.  You can choose to convert to/from 95LX,
CD Format 1 (Comma delimited), Lotus Metro, and Sidekick Plus file formats.
My 95LX has been sold, but I still have a copy of the 95LX connectivity
pack.

It is also possible to read 95LX's .PBK files directly in to an HP 100LX or
200LX and export comma separated values to a file directly.

Alan Striegel

>From: bob@YAGOSYS.COM Ýmailto:bob@YAGOSYS.COM¨
>Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 8:22 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Fwd: exporting pbk files
>
>I'm wondering if you could help me, or at least steer me in the right
>direction.  I'm trying to help my sister (fairly computer illiterate)
>transfer her phone book address/number files into some common format
>that could be read by a Palm III.  (i don't know if you have any
>problems with the Palm versus HP, but you should know she's converting
>against her will, as she loves the HP LX95 but it's days are
>numbered!).   Is there some way to export the files into CSV or TXT or
>something useful?

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:27:40 -0600
Reply-To:     Chris Lott 
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From:         Chris Lott 
Subject:      Spare Parts
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Okay... I know this is an old subject, but I never needed to pay attention
until now.  I recently re-claimed a spare unit that I had loaned to a
friend, and found that the left end hinge cap was missing.  He is going
to double-check around his house for it, but in the meantime I would
like to get one of those packages of spare parts that HP used to sell.
First question - does it include a hinge cap?  What about a battery
compartment cover?  (Mine has broken a catch on one side).  If HP
doesn't sell these anymore, does Thaddeus have any for sale?

-Chris


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Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc.
Huntsville, Alabama
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:35:02 -0500 (EST)

To Whom It May Concern:

   If you want me to unsubscribe you from HPLX-L, please replace the
   default "user@domain.name" with your own EMail address on the form
   ;-)

   Thanks

*
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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:46:03 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Chris Randle 
Subject:      Re: Question about POST/LX and BCC
Comments: To: A Meshar 
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--__next_part__1295428404__
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Avi (and any other interested D&A people),

My ISP is adamant they are doing nothing wrong and it's the
e-mail client's responsibility to strip the BCC header. Rod
Whitby's posts seem to concur.

 Is there any chance that Post/LX can be made to
do the right thing? I think that BCC is a common requirement,
and it can be embarrassing when it doesn't work.

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              Peniel Romanelli 
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Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:44:17 -0500 (EST)

Hi Gang -

Does anyone know of a good online reference for modem commands?  I've
been following the discussion of the W2 command, but can't find it in
any of my references or manuals.

Everything I have lists a W command to wait for a second dial tone
(usually used for systems that dial 9 for an outside line), but no W2.


TIA

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On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:43:52 -0500, Peniel Romanelli  =
wrote:

> Everything I have lists a W command to wait for a second dial tone
> (usually used for systems that dial 9 for an outside line), but no W2.

Here is the init string I am using with the 56K modem:

atw2s37=3D29dt*70,8792282

The W2 is making it report modem speed and the S37 is setting a register =
in
the modem.

Jeff

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Daniel Hertrich  wrote:

> Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:
> > In the particular mailbox section enter:
> >
> >    Wrote=Mr. %s wrote
>
> It works! :-)  Thanks also from me!
> GTX daniel
>
> P.S.: I often wanted tu set up this feature, but I didn't because I
> thought it would cost me much time - but it was just a 1 minute job!

I got this to work when I send messages from my mailboxes. But I
read the list on the newsserver. Is there any switch to make this work
on messages that I reply to there? In this message I get onle " wrote"
as the first line. (I have added "Daniel Hertrich" to the first line
myself).

I am still using posth. Replies to a mailboxmessage shows "xx wrote"
Replies to a newsmessage show posth header.
(I use peh.bat $f $h $x N t1)

This is okey with me, but I would like "xx wrote" to work on the mails
to the list. Is this possible?

Btw if all your replies goes to males then Mr. is okey.. you should
alter your setup to just show the "name wrote"..I accidently called my
mom Mr. :-))

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I would like to thank everybody on this list for all there usefull
applications and help..

I am now connected to my schools network with my Ethernetcard and
Dhcp/wwwlx.. It worked here like at home "out of the box"..

I am a bit overexited right now..this is great :-))) Now I can download
mail and news for free. My phonebill will go down a _lot_..

Hurray for all the people that have helped me over the past year with
everything. I will stay with the Hplx for a long time !

The Hp200lx is dead..long live the Hp200lx :-)))

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(I had a problem with Post/Lx frezzes for 1-2 seconds when I was online
and scrolling through the folders)

Now that I connect through a ethernetcard to the internet the
freezeproblem Tomas and me talked about some time ago have vanished.

I belive I still have the freezeproblem if I connect directly to a modem
with Post/lx.

Just thought I let you all now..

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From: dd diaz 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:16:54 -0500
Subject: Word 6 for DOS. Was: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 16 Jan 2000 to 17 Jan
2000 (#2000-27)
Message-ID: <381657633.948237414502.JavaMail.root@web31.pub01>

Hi.  Anyone knows why Microsoft is giving away Word  5.5 and
not Word 6 for DOS? I see that all the time on Ebay.  What's
the difference?

Domingo

------Original Message------
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I have Word 5.5 for Dos.  I'm pretty sure I downloaded that
from Microsoft's
site and that they've made it available.  If youd like a
copy, email me at
barry@fbtc.net and let me know.

Barry

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From: Bob Meyer 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:40:57 -0700
Subject: Re: Word 6 for DOS. Was: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 16 Jan 2000 to 17
Jan2000 (#2000-27)
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Word 6.0 will handle TrueType fonts.

Bob

dd diaz wrote:

> Hi.  Anyone knows why Microsoft is giving away Word  5.5 and
> not Word 6 for DOS? I see that all the time on Ebay.  What's
> the difference?
>
> Domingo
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Barry Marks 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Sent: January 18, 2000 7:46:09 PM GMT
> Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 16 Jan 2000 to 17 Jan 2000
> (#2000-27)
>
> I have Word 5.5 for Dos.  I'm pretty sure I downloaded that
> from Microsoft's
> site and that they've made it available.  If youd like a
> copy, email me at
> barry@fbtc.net and let me know.
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> Barry
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Hi.  Just wanted to let the list know that Taiyo Watanabe released
version 1.6 of his excellent fit.exm (Free Information Taker) program
on the 16th, with source code.  The executable, source, and a screen
shot can be found at
        http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA014919/soft/fit.htm
Taiyo fixed a small bug that prevented option changes from being saved.

For those familiar with his todo.exm, fit.exm is pretty similar, except
that the due dates stuff is removed.  Frames never change automatically.
Since the due dates for each item don't have to be checked every day,
the program launches very quickly.  Also, some nice features of the beta
version of todo.exm, such as being able to jump to the next or previous
note while in a note, appear in fit.exm.

For those not familiar with fit.exm or todo.exm, these programs keep notes
in a highly configurable spreadsheet-like layout.  If you choose a note, you
see it full-screen, along with the created and last modified times.   Todo.exm
includes start and due dates for each item, and changes the frame of each
note to indicate not started/started/due today/late.

I personally keep my to do list items in a 10 row by 4 column grid, which
shows me the 1st 18 characters of the first line of each note.  I manually
use a few of the 15 available frames to indicate urgent/in progress/hold off,
etc.  My columns are ASAP, General, House, and Work, ordered by priority
within each.  I've been looking for a good way to store to do items since
getting my HP200LX 4 or 5 years ago, and this works very well for me.

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I just figured everyone would love to see the lovely email that I am
receiving about my reference to a W2 command.... geesh, get a grip and =
get a
life!

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 06:00:03 -0800, Michael J Lauta  =
wrote:

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Subject: Fw: Re: Modem reference?
From: Michael J Lauta 

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From: Jeff Johns 
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:55:06 -0600
Subject: Re: Modem reference?
Message-ID: <200001191455.IAA00439@mail.hiwaay.net>

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 08:43:52 -0500, Peniel Romanelli 
wrote:

> Everything I have lists a W command to wait for a second dial tone

You aparently are full of bull shit, cow shit and a little pigs ass
ontop?

>(usually used for systems that dial 9 for an outside line), but no W2.

Here is the init string I am using with the 56K modem:

atw2s37=3D29dt*70,8792282

The W2 is making it report modem speed and the S37 is setting a register
in
the modem.

Jeff

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> Hi.  Anyone knows why Microsoft is giving away Word  5.5 and
> not Word 6 for DOS? I see that all the time on Ebay.  What's
> the difference?


I'm not sure if they are GIVING it away.  I think it may be "limited" to
those who used earlier versions of Word which are not y2k compliant.
5.5 is the lowest version which is compliant.

It may be available 'officially' only to those who have a license for
earlier versions.

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The W2 I have been speaking of also properly reports modem speed with my
Motorola 56K Voice Surfer desktop modem.

Jeff

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> > Everything I have lists a W command to wait for a second dial tone
>
> You aparently are full of bull shit, cow shit and a little pigs ass
> ontop?
>

From:  Rockwell V.32/V.32bis AT Command Set Reference

...

Wn      Error Correction Message Control

This command controls the format of CONNECT messages.  The parameter
value, if valid, is written to S31 bits 2 and 3. (Also, see S95
description)

W0  Upon connection, the modem reports only the DTE speed (e.g,
    CONNECT 9600).  Subsequent responses are disabled.  Default
W1  Upon connection, the modem reports the line speed, the error
    correction protocol, and the DTE speed, respectively.  Subsequent
    responses are disabled.
W2  Upon connection, the modem reports the DCE speed (e.g, CONNECT
    2400). Subsequent responses are disabled.

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> My question is do dhcp/ip-up override the ethernetsection concerning
> ipaddress in the post.cfg?

I hope so. :->
That is the way I am using it.

> I have no idea if I can connect to the schools network. I think they
> have static ipaddresses. How can I find out what ipaddress the node I
> am using has under Win NT?

First try dhcp. I think it will work.

If You are sitting at NT machine.
C:\>ipconfig /all
will give You the settings for that machine.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Sorry that I can't find where I got it, but in a file from US Robotics
called MODEM.TXT on my system, it says the following:

Rockwell V.32/V.32bis AT Command Set Reference
Revision Date :  27 Dec 95
...
Wn   Error Correction Message Control
  W0  Upon connection, the modem reports only the DTE speed (e.g, CONNECT
9600)
  W1  Upon connection, the modem reports the line speed, the error
correction protocol, and the DTE speed, respectively
  W2  Upon connection, the modem reports the DCE speed (e.g, CONNECT 2400)
(Default)
...
Copyright US Robotics Mobile Communications Corp.

There's lots more in this file, but you could probably search one of the
major modem vendor's sites for something like it.  I know I found it online,
but that was back in September, 1998.

Alan Striegel

>From: Peniel Romanelli Ýmailto:peniel@WEB2000.NET¨
>Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 8:44 AM
>...
>Does anyone know of a good online reference for modem commands?  I've
>been following the discussion of the W2 command, but can't find it in
>any of my references or manuals.
>
>Everything I have lists a W command to wait for a second dial tone
>(usually used for systems that dial 9 for an outside line), but no W2.

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W2 Resultcode is DCE rate ( carrier rate )
That's all it says on: http://www.option.com/support/hayesat.htm

HTH

Etienne Lemaire
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From: Peniel Romanelli 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Modem reference?
Date: mercredi 19 janvier 2000 14:43

Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:44:17 -0500 (EST)

Hi Gang -

Does anyone know of a good online reference for modem commands?  I've
been following the discussion of the W2 command, but can't find it in
any of my references or manuals.

Everything I have lists a W command to wait for a second dial tone
(usually used for systems that dial 9 for an outside line), but no W2.


TIA

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 06:58:18 -0800
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Yes, the $20 kit from HP contains several of each part including the hinge caps,
battery cover, IR cover, bottom screws, rubber feet, and (I think) the lithium
battery tray.  A deal when you consider how much longer it extends the life of
your LX.

You may have to search the archives for the HP phone number to call, if they
still carry them.

- Longden





Chris Lott  on 01/19/2000 06:27:40 AM

Please respond to Chris Lott 

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
Subject:  Spare Parts




Okay... I know this is an old subject, but I never needed to pay attention
until now.  I recently re-claimed a spare unit that I had loaned to a
friend, and found that the left end hinge cap was missing.  He is going
to double-check around his house for it, but in the meantime I would
like to get one of those packages of spare parts that HP used to sell.
First question - does it include a hinge cap?  What about a battery
compartment cover?  (Mine has broken a catch on one side).  If HP
doesn't sell these anymore, does Thaddeus have any for sale?

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Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:33:45 -0500 (EST)

I have a MODEM ref I downloaded from the USR/Megahertz Cust Supp site.
Comes in both TXT & HTML flavours...if anybody wants  acopy, let me
know.

Cheers...AJKind

01h49m53s ago ...
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:44:17 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi Gang -
>
> Does anyone know of a good online reference for modem commands?  I've
> been following the discussion of the W2 command, but can't find it in
> any of my references or manuals.
>
> Everything I have lists a W command to wait for a second dial tone
> (usually used for systems that dial 9 for an outside line), but no W2.
>
> TIA
>
> Peniel
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Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:35:36 -0500 (EST)

Hmmm... I ahve received several requests from "user@domain.name" to
UNSUBSCRIBE.

Just finally unsubscribed this MORON!

I ask you...coincedence?

Cheers...AJKind

20m49s ago ...
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I just figured everyone would love to see the lovely email that I am
> receiving about my reference to a W2 command.... geesh, get a grip and
> get a
> life!...
>
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 wrote:
> > My question is do dhcp/ip-up override the ethernetsection concerning
> > ipaddress in the post.cfg?
>
> I hope so. :->
> That is the way I am using it.
>
> > I have no idea if I can connect to the schools network. I think they
> > have static ipaddresses. How can I find out what ipaddress the node I
> > am using has under Win NT?
>
> First try dhcp. I think it will work.

Yes it works like a charm. I am now connected as I write this to my
schools network. The only thing now is to find a newsserver which works
like the news.hplx.net. I can not reach my isp's newsserver because I
then have to be connected to their node..

Do you have any suggestions on what newsserver I can use which allows
me to read and write without being connected to their node?

TIA

--
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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:30:34 -0600
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<>

Here is the scoop. At COMDEX I met with Dave Ponce who used to work for EXP.
He told me of this 56Kbps modem (without a retail name, apparently sold and
included in various OEM packages) that was being sold to 200LX users in
Brazil. He gave me the contact and I was sent a sample which I passed on to
Mack. Mack did testing and found it as low-powered both in use and in the
palmtop but not in use, as any that he has tested.

Mack passed the modem on to Jeff who as you have seen put it to practical
use.

The product will go in our next catalog due out in about a month. However,
we already have some in inventory -- although we probably won't start
shipping for a day or two.

We will charge $99.95. These fax/modems are new and are in new packaging.
We should be able to have them in stock for some time, although the supply
is not unlimited.

Hal at Thaddeus, 800-373-6114, orders@thaddeus.com

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This is the same person who's posted two "unsubscribes".

Maybe this was his novel third method to get off this list.

- Longden





Jeff Johns  on 01/19/2000 07:14:47 AM

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I just figured everyone would love to see the lovely email that I am
receiving about my reference to a W2 command.... geesh, get a grip and get a
life!

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 06:00:03 -0800, Michael J Lauta  wrote

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Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:40:11 -0500 (EST)

Hi all -

Thanks to everyone who posted regarding references for modem commands.
Al was nice enough to send me a copy...  (Thanks, Al!)


Later

Peniel
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On 19 Jan 2000 04:31:37 -0800, Martin Bergvill  wrote:

> I have problems with norwegian characters fxe in the _subject_ line in
> Post/lx. I was wondering if somebody else have problems with their
> special native (umlauts?) characters too.

I've noticed this problem too. I definitely remember it
happening with k (e umlaut), but I think that it may well
happen with many other accents and other special characters
as well. It's worth reiterating that this only happens in
the subject line; accented letters in the actual body of the
message are handled fine.

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> > Everything I have lists a W command to wait for a second dial tone
>
> You aparently are full of bull shit, cow shit and a little pigs ass
> ontop?

Wow, Jeff. Apparently, you have a very strange diet! ;-)

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> Wow, Jeff. Apparently, you have a very strange diet! ;-)



Jeff

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Hello.   Last night I dropped my palmtop into my kitchen
floor, producing some undesirable results.   I was able to
reset my battery cover, and the palmtop still works fine,
but there is a little latch which I don't seem able to
reset.  It is right next to the left hinge cap, above the
"Esc" and "\" keys.  A little metal sheet is visible above
the "F3" key.  The cylindrical hinge cover is therefore
slightly raised on the left side of the hinge, allowing the
left side of the screen to flop up and down rather freely,
and putting some strain on the screen latch.  I have tried
pushing the central hinge cover down with my fingers, and
have put much pressure on the little latch with a flat head
screwdriver, but it will not budge.   I have not yet used my
full body weight on the thing (I am afraid of doing that.
It's my only HP palmtop).  In the 4 years I have followed
the list, I have never heard of this yet.

Help!!

Domingo

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Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:48:00 -0500 (EST)

Hey, I guess you can't argue wit success!

-----> He's outta here!!!!

55m51s ago ...
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> This is the same person who's posted two "unsubscribes".
>
> Maybe this was his novel third method to get off this list.
>
> - Longden
>
> Jeff Johns  on 01/19/2000 07:14:47 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please =
respond
>       to Jeff Johns 
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
> Subject:  Fwd: Fw: Re: Modem reference?
>
> I just figured everyone would love to see the lovely email that I am
> receiving about my reference to a W2 command.... geesh, get a grip and =
get a
> life!
>
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 06:00:03 -0800, Michael J Lauta  =
wrote
>
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I have secure device setup to work on a PCMCIA flashdisk, and it works without
issue on my HPLX. It works fine on my HPLX, but I would like to make it work
under Win95 as well. I added the following to config.sys:

device=c:\sevdev.sys f:\secname /t5

This cause me to get a "Compatibility mode paging reduces system performance"
warning when I booted up, and windows complained that I would see a decrease in
performance. I haven't noticed any, but haven't really taxed the system too
severely yet. My system layout is as follows:

a: floppy
b: floppy
c: hard disk (partition 1)
d: hard disk (partition 2)
e: SECDEV volume (reserved as part of startup)
f: PCMCIA card

This all seems to make good sense. The problem is that when I try to login into
the volume on drive E:, I don't unlock the volume - I get "E:\ is not
accessiblel. The device is not ready" warning. Has anyone got this to work
effectively?

How much of a performance penalty should I expect to see?

Also, since the source code is provided, would anyone be interested in an EXM
version of the login program?

I appreciate your insights.

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From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: Question about POST/LX and BCC
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chris@amlog.demon.co.uk wrote:
> Avi (and any other interested D&A people),
>
> My ISP is adamant they are doing nothing wrong and it's the
> e-mail client's responsibility to strip the BCC header. Rod
> Whitby's posts seem to concur.

As I posted too, this seems to be the case. Andreas wishes
me to post that Post/LX as it stands now, does not support
BCC properly. IOW, it does not remove the header before it
sends out the data - i.e. the message, incl. the headers.

>  Is there any chance that Post/LX can be made to
> do the right thing? I think that BCC is a common requirement,
> and it can be embarrassing when it doesn't work.

I do not know if this will happen. We have discussed it and
his contention is it will take a great deal of rework of
the entire program to make it happen. I accept what he says
about the code, because he knows his code.

In general, more and more such items will come up - and
there will be a time, when we will have to say that this
product is not viable any longer.

At this time I cannot make a more specific statement, I just
do not have more information to share.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

(Yes, official!:) ...)

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:15:29 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
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Jeff,


> > Which pocket modem is that? Who is the manufacture? Is this a PCMCIA
> > modem?

????????????

> > What is your true line speed?
>
> It is a PCMCIA modem and using the W2 AT command to report line speed I
> can
> honestly say that I am connecting at 45K or above.

Great!

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:15:32 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
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Peniel,

> Does anyone know of a good online reference for modem commands?  I've
> been following the discussion of the W2 command, but can't find it in
> any of my references or manuals.
>
> Everything I have lists a W command to wait for a second dial tone
> (usually used for systems that dial 9 for an outside line), but no W2.

I can send you an ascii dosument which I found when I searched for
modem Rockwell chip in the web.

But be aware that your modem not necessarily use that command. Mine
here doesn't.

Regards

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Date:         Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:46:03 -0800
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http://www.digitalpaths.com/


Could we use this service for better surfing experience with WWW/LX or =
others?

Philippe

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http://www.digitalpaths.com/


 


 


Could we use this service for better =
surfing=20
experience with WWW/LX or others?


 


Philippe


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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:00:33 -0500
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              Lucy Leong 
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Hello All,

>Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:54:52 -0500
>From: "Michael Kramer" 
>To: Palm-Med@umich.edu
>Subject: Ýpalm-med¨ Transmeta news conference is on now

>Very interesting and has huge implications on the mobile clinical
>device.
>
>See www.transmeta.com

Saw this on the medical PDA list, is it of any use?

Cheers,
Lucy


Lucy Leong
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Comments: To: Brian.McIlvaine@UNBOUNDED.COM

> device=c:\sevdev.sys f:\secname /t5
>
> This cause me to get a "Compatibility mode paging reduces system
performance"
> warning when I booted up, and windows complained that I would see a
decrease in


There is a fix to this, but I don't have the details. Search around.
Apparently there is a list, a text file, of 'approved' drivers in W95. What
one must do is to edit this file and add a reference to sevdev.sys. Reboot
and it should work. Either that or it wipes your disk... :-) Check out
Microsoft or independant W95/98 websites offering tech tips. I don't
remember where I saw this, ZDnet possibly?

br

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              Steven Lawson 
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Subject:      Re: Post/Lx screws the subjectline when I reply..
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I'm assuming it's like the headers in email (I think it is, Rod?)  There
is an ugly encoding hack that must be done when 8-bit characters are
included in an email header.  I had to implement this on GP version 3 and
up. I believe the description is in RFC 822.  I don't recall the details,
only that I was saying alot of "ugh.." as I was coding for it. :-)

> Support Dasoft say that this is a newsserver problem, but everybody
> else gets it right with their newsreader so this must be a Post/Lx
> problem. They also told me that you are not supposed to use these
> characters in the subject.

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Anyone knows a good mailing list for WinCE? With a good bunch of people =
like this list?

Thanks!

Philippe

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Thanks!


 


Philippe


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I saw this today also on my local newspaper.  A low power processor chip (1 watt
vs 6-16 watts for a pentium) that does x86 code emulation.

The software emulation lets them cut down on the chip size and power.

Maybe Mack and David can yet get us an LX pentium upgrade option .

- Longden





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Hello All,

>Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:54:52 -0500
>From: "Michael Kramer" 
>To: Palm-Med@umich.edu
>Subject: Ýpalm-med¨ Transmeta news conference is on now

>Very interesting and has huge implications on the mobile clinical
>device.
>
>See www.transmeta.com

Saw this on the medical PDA list, is it of any use?

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Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:48:36 -0500 (EST)

Hmmm...seems like an "Oxymoron"

ÝSorry, couldn't resist¨

But seriously folks...try www.wince.org

Cheers...AJKind

23m20s ago ...
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Philippe Fryday wrote:

>
> ...WinCE..... With a good bunch of people like this list?

*
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Looks like this site name is for sale...

Philippe

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Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:48:36 -0500 (EST)

Hmmm...seems like an "Oxymoron"

ÝSorry, couldn't resist¨

But seriously folks...try www.wince.org

Cheers...AJKind

23m20s ago ...
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Philippe Fryday wrote:

>
> ...WinCE..... With a good bunch of people like this list?

*
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This would be the file IOS.INI in the WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory.  Edit it
with the driver file name, save it and restart; should help.
Regards,
Richard

> device=c:\sevdev.sys f:\secname /t5
>
> This cause me to get a "Compatibility mode paging reduces system
performance"
> warning when I booted up, and windows complained that I would see a
decrease in

There is a fix to this, but I don't have the details. Search around.
Apparently there is a list, a text file, of 'approved' drivers in W95.
What
one must do is to edit this file and add a reference to sevdev.sys.
Reboot
and it should work. Either that or it wipes your disk... :-) Check out
Microsoft or independant W95/98 websites offering tech tips. I don't
remember where I saw this, ZDnet possibly?

Franklin

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> Btw if all your replies goes to males then Mr. is okey.. you should
> alter your setup to just show the "name wrote"..I accidently called my
> mom Mr. :-))

Thanks for a good laugh this morning! (Ggggggggggggg)

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:27:16 -0500
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              Russel Brooks 
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Subject:      Re: Secure Device with Windows 95
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Brian McIlvaine wrote:
> I have secure device setup to work on a PCMCIA flashdisk, and it works without
> issue on my HPLX. It works fine on my HPLX, but I would like to make it work
> under Win95 as well. I added the following to config.sys:

As much as I like SD it does cause problems in my (DOS 5) desktop
environment so I leave it commented out in the Config.sys until I need
it.

> This cause me to get a "Compatibility mode paging reduces system performance"
> warning when I booted up, and windows complained that I would see a decrease in

I'm not too Windows litterate but I think this is correct, until you
LOGIN to the SD drive all the data is encrypted including the drive
structure like Boot sector, FAT and directories.

I don't know about Windows performance but using SD will slow down
access to any data on the SD disk because it has to be unencrypted to be
read and that is overhead.

> Also, since the source code is provided, would anyone be interested in an EXM
> version of the login program?

SD is a DOS device driver; EXM programs only run under the LX's SysMgr
so if you could come up with an EXM version it would only be usable
from within SysMgr.  The DOS version is pretty small and doesn't come
with too big a memory penalty.

cheers... Russ

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For those of you who might need it, the parts kit is part number
F1216-60998
(Palmtop Maintenance Kit), and can be obtained by calling HP service.  I
only
have the US 800 number (800/227-8164).

 The kit contains:
 2 battery doors
 2 backup battery trays
 8 rubber feet
 *3 replacement screws* (added to original kit by customer request)
 4 hinge caps
 2 IR covers
 2 metal ID plates (the ones you get engraved for the bottom).

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> It's my only HP palmtop).  In the 4 years I have followed
> the list, I have never heard of this yet.


I have heard of it happening a few times over the years.  I THINK that
you have to open the bottom screws under the rubber feet (torque driver)
and than reset the top half.  I don't think pushing, even with body
weight is an appropriate method.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:32:02 -0500
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Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:33:36 -0500 (EST)

Hi again, all -

Seems like the same cretin that Al just threw off the list hasn't
figured things out YET...

He just sent me a message asking to be unsubscribed.  Some folks never
learn.  At least he refrained from making remarks about bovine waste...


Later

Peniel
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              MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:07:51 -0500 (EST)

Seems like he must be subscribed as an alias...we'll get it sorted out.

My apologies to all for bandwidth...and my personal apologies for the
"name calling"...if I were getting 50 messages a day from a mail list I
didn't want, I'd be a little cheesed off too.

Cheers,

01h35m49s ago ...
On Wed, 19 Jan 2000, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:33:36 -0500 (EST)
>
> Hi again, all -
>
> Seems like the same cretin that Al just threw off the list hasn't
> figured things out YET...
>
> He just sent me a message asking to be unsubscribed.  Some folks never
> learn.  At least he refrained from making remarks about bovine waste...
>
> Later
>
> Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:48:30 +0930
Reply-To:     rwhitby@asc.corp.mot.com
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From:         Rod Whitby 
Subject:      Re: Post/Lx screws the subjectline when I reply..

RFC1342 describes the representation of non-ASCII text in
message headers (both mail and news).  It's a client's
responsibility to do this encoding if it detects non-ASCII
characters in the text that the user types in.

Neither LXMTA nor PNR support non-ASCII text entry, nor is
there much chance that they will (unless someone else codes it
and sends me the code) ...

Steven Lawson writes:
> I'm assuming it's like the headers in email (I think it is, Rod?)  There
> is an ugly encoding hack that must be done when 8-bit characters are
> included in an email header.  I had to implement this on GP version 3 and
> up. I believe the description is in RFC 822.  I don't recall the details,
> only that I was saying alot of "ugh.." as I was coding for it. :-)
>
> > Support Dasoft say that this is a newsserver problem, but everybody
> > else gets it right with their newsreader so this must be a Post/Lx
> > problem. They also told me that you are not supposed to use these
> > characters in the subject.


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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:29:07 -0600
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:32:02 -0500, Peniel Romanelli  =
wrote:

> Seems like the same cretin that Al just threw off the list hasn't
> figured things out YET...
>
> He just sent me a message asking to be unsubscribed.  Some folks never
> learn.  At least he refrained from making remarks about bovine waste...

Hehehe...... he sent me three of them with the same foul language as used
earlier in the day. Heck at least when most of us fight here, we know =
each
other. I can't stand getting cursed at by a stranger, I can understand
people that know me cursing me but not moron strangers .

Jeff

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Date:         Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:55:45 +1100
Reply-To:     Alain Psyche 
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From:         Alain Psyche 
Subject:      Re: FIT.EXM Version 1.6 Available

Hidavid,
Thanx for this information.
I did not notice any diference with this version.
Do you know how to use (and the fonction) of
  -Ctl R (Rec. Files)
  -Ctl G (show PCX)
Also, I notice a awk script to convert the data from todo to fit.
To bad, I already did the job with copy and past :(
regards
Alain
PS: My wish for this software is to have te possibility to link a column or cell

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Date:         Thu, 20 Jan 2000 04:43:13 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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I use to use Word 5.0.  F1 use to switch between windows.

Word 5.5 uses either a Menu command, Alt-W and then you pick a document
or supposedly you can use Ctrl-F6 or Ctrl-shift-f6 BUT....

it does not appear to work when you are in two windows in ONE single
document - say looking at the beginning and the middle of the same
document.  It seems to only work using a mouse!!!!

Any ideas by those folks who brought us the High Ascii method??? (G)

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:35:25 -0600
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              Curtis Cameron 
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Subject:      Re: Dropped palmtop, help!!!
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dd diaz wrote:
>It is right next to the left hinge cap, above the
>"Esc" and "\" keys.  A little metal sheet is visible above
>the "F3" key.  The cylindrical hinge cover is therefore
>slightly raised on the left side of the hinge, allowing the
>left side of the screen to flop up and down rather freely,
>and putting some strain on the screen latch.  I have tried
>pushing the central hinge cover down with my fingers, and
>have put much pressure on the little latch with a flat head
>screwdriver, but it will not budge.

Besides for the dropping it on the kitchen floor, this same exact
thing happened to me last week (it was in a parking lot). I tried to
pop it together as forcefully as I dare, with no luck. And this is
just about three months after the Thaddeus people fixed up my unit so
well!

So far, it hasn't seemed to cause any problems, other than the left
side of the display unit has some wiggle room at the hinge. Experts
out there - should we be worried about it?

--
Curtis Cameron
WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:15:22 -0700
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              "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" 
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From:         "Richard & Patti Smith (Seronac)" 
Organization: Orion Enterprises
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Also, I forgot to mention, SD is probably only a 16-bit driver.  Unless
it's a 32-bit driver, it will still slow your Win9x machine down
considerably.  But, the fix below will at least make it stop complaining
about it.

This would be the file IOS.INI in the WINDOWS\SYSTEM directory.  Edit it

with the driver file name, save it and restart; should help.
Regards,
Richard

===============================
> device=c:\sevdev.sys f:\secname /t5
>
> This cause me to get a "Compatibility mode paging reduces system
performance"
> warning when I booted up, and windows complained that I would see a
decrease in

>There is a fix to this, but I don't have the details. Search around.
>Apparently there is a list, a text file, of 'approved' drivers in W95.
>What
>one must do is to edit this file and add a reference to sevdev.sys.
>Reboot
>and it should work. Either that or it wipes your disk... :-) Check out
>Microsoft or independant W95/98 websites offering tech tips. I don't
>remember where I saw this, ZDnet possibly?
>Franklin

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Date:         Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:55:34 -0500
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> I am still using posth. Replies to a mailboxmessage shows "xx wrote"
> Replies to a newsmessage show posth header.
> (I use peh.bat $f $h $x N t1)

You may use the

  Wrote=%s wrote:

command line in both your mailbox as well as your newsgroup sectionS.
If you add this line to lets say to your palmtop newsgroup folder

ÝPalmtops¨
...
Wrote=%s wrote:
...

all your replies will be preceded with the quote of the guy who wrote
the original post.


HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Wed, 19 Jan 2000 23:55:19 -0800
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From:         BOB1 
Subject:      Re: FW: exporting pbk files
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Striegel, Alan wrote:
>
> I don't recall if the HP 95LX had any features of its own to export the .PBK
> files into some other format, but the HP Connectivity Kit for the 95LX can
> translate between several formats.  You can choose to convert to/from 95LX,
> CD Format 1 (Comma delimited), Lotus Metro, and Sidekick Plus file formats.
> My 95LX has been sold, but I still have a copy of the 95LX connectivity
> pack.
>
> It is also possible to read 95LX's .PBK files directly in to an HP 100LX or
> 200LX and export comma separated values to a file directly.
>
> Alan Striegel
>
> >From: bob@YAGOSYS.COM Ýmailto:bob@YAGOSYS.COM¨
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 8:22 AM
> >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject: Fwd: exporting pbk files
> >
> >I'm wondering if you could help me, or at least steer me in the right
> >direction.  I'm trying to help my sister (fairly computer illiterate)
> >transfer her phone book address/number files into some common format
> >that could be read by a Palm III.  (i don't know if you have any
> >problems with the Palm versus HP, but you should know she's converting
> >against her will, as she loves the HP LX95 but it's days are
> >numbered!).   Is there some way to export the files into CSV or TXT or
> >something useful?
>
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Hi Alan! I am one of the persons that has a hp95lx still going strong
even though I have a 200lx.
I have the connectivity pack for 95lx.
My problem is I can EXPORT MY FILES OUT AS ASCII but can't bring them
back into the 95lx phone book even though I have not touch the fields.
my source file is on disk as cd1 ext. the convert that's in the
connectivity pack just does not like cd1 ext. I can format cd1 as export
to paradox or dbase BOTH PARADOX AND BDASE INPORT THE CD1 FORMAT can
read it but when I EXPORT as cd1 ext into 95lx it reads the file only
10% before it gives me an invalid extension! it's a cd1 format why can't
it read it? you think it's a bad file,I JUST DON'T know.

I have no problem between 95lx to 200lx.

  sorry Alan I don't mean to write a book (smile)

                 Bob

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Martin wrote:

> Hello..
>
> I have problems with norwegian characters =E6=F8=E5 in the _subject_ =
line >  in > Post/lx. I was wondering if somebody else have problems with =
their
> special native (umlauts?) characters too.
>

The same happens with the  unique swedish letters ,but it is only in the =
Subjectfield and in the listview they screw up,nowhere else.


>
> I would like these changes made to the next update of Post/Lx:
>
> Norwegian characters works correct(german/other too?)

Then I want the swedish characters =E5=E4=F6 to be correct also;actually =
two of them are also in the german language.


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From:         Lars Hedstroem 
Subject:      Re: Thanks to everyone from me :-))
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Martin wrote:



> I would like to thank everybody on this list for all there usefull
> applications and help..
>
> I am now connected to my schools network with my Ethernetcard


Do you use this Accton -2?


>
> Hurray for all the people that have helped me over the past year with
> everything. I will stay with the Hplx for a long time !
>

Perhaps we also will see each other in the old people's home LXing? 


Lars Hedstroem/Sweden









> The Hp200lx is dead..long live the Hp200lx :-)))

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Date:         Thu, 20 Jan 2000 12:01:13 +0100
Reply-To:     stelem@attglobal.net
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From:         Etienne Lemaire 
Subject:      Re: palmtop networking -success- sort of...
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> Are you running lxcic on the palmtop ?
>
>
> -- Rod Whitby - rwhitby@hplx.net - http://rwhitby.hplx.net --

Thanks for your help - yes lxcic l in aotoexec.bat

After trying a zillion possible combinations, I can, more or less at will,
see the other side's drives.
However the procedure is a bit cumbersome.
First, on the desktop side
-with ipx: I have not yet found a way to see the HP200lx
-with net-up.bat: find a computer does find the 200lx most often as a peer
to peer connection, which is then shown on the network.
Clicking on it shows the shared drive, sometimes only on the 2nd try. I can
then do all operations as required. But eventually, the lx is not found any
more: "The type of local peripheral and the network resource are
different"(translated from French)

Second, the HP200LX

Simply "net view" returns: Error 6110 The list of servers for not currently
available
        net view \\desktop returns Error 54 THe network is busy
BUT, IF I first , on my desktop click on the HP200, and on its drive, then
close THEN the net view command works !

For any command, at least net view, net view \\desktop, net use.... I first
have to open and close HP200lx on my desktop!

Well I can access and transfer files, as long as I have both on my desk,
but I had another mental image of networking...

Any ideas to keep my nights busy? Or a solution to go to the next problem?

Thanks in advance

Etienne

Both machines are linked with a crossover cable, Win95first edition, 2
network cards installed softwise with each tcp/ip, netbeui, and ipx
Only the 3Com one is  physically in the desktop, the Accton is in the HP of
course. (When using Goin'Postal, I sometimes just swap the Accton from one
machine to the other to access the mail with my cable connection.

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Martin wrote:



> I would like to thank everybody on this list for all there usefull
> applications and help..
>
> I am now connected to my schools network with my Ethernetcard


But how does this work actually?Are you connected 24hours a day?How are =
you connected to this intranetwork?



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              gary 
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From:         gary 
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I've been an avid user of the 200LX for a number of years and a lurker on
this list on and off for the same amount of time.  Over the past 6 months or
so I guess I had become bored with the LX and started to look for something
"sexier".  I checked all the alternatives out WinCE, IBM 110, Psion, Palm
IIIv, and Visor etc.  I decided on the Visor as that's were the buzz was and
the price was right.  It took 10 weeks from my order date to recive a blue
Visor Delux.

While the Visor is a great piece of engineering with a rosy future to say it
was a little lacking compared to the LX would be an understatement. First
the thing is so small that at times it feels like it will literally slip
through my fingers and I hate to imagine what would happen if this thing hit
the deck as hard as my LX has.  File usage between the Visor and PC is a
hassle and the built in apps suck.  However,  the vaporware about the
springboard slot looks  promising if it becomes hardware.

Anyway, I think its a real bum deal that the 200LX got discontinued because
there really isn't anything out there that can compete in terms of
functionality AND simplicity.

Just my 0010b cents

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From:         Lars Hedstroem 
Subject:      Question about POST/LX and BCC
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> chris@amlog.demon.co.uk wrote:
> >
> > My ISP is adamant they are doing nothing wrong and it's the
> > e-mail client's responsibility to strip the BCC header. Rod
> > Whitby's posts seem to concur.

> > BCC is a common requirement,
> > and it can be embarrassing when it doesn't work.

Can someone explain what BCC headers are,and what will happen if the =
emailclient doesn't process it right?


Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Jeff wrote:



> I
> went and got myself a SimpleTech 33.6 off eBay but it drew too much =
power> and 'nuked' my LX so that wasn't an option.
>> Well.... I have discovered the answers to my needs and thought I would =
> share > it with everyone, since I'm sure there are others like me that =
want to go > FAST! The answer is a 56K modem that Thaddeus is selling. =
It's a PC card
> modem that LXCIC recognizes and IS able to power down while it's in the =
> LX


So the processingpower of the LX is not a limitation in this aspect?

Why then is it impossible to transfer at higher speeds than 19000 with =
other (external) modems?


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The speed limitation using external modems connected to the serial port is
apparently due to the serial port, and not the processor.

The port is equipped with a 8250 UART chip that effectively limits the speed to
14-19k.  Using the PC card slot, no such restriction exists and most PC card
modems (such as Jeff's) come with a  faster UART.  Till now, the limiting factor
in using fast PC card modems has not been UART speed but rather power
consumption, and to a lesser extent, CPU speed.

- Longden





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Jeff wrote:



> I
> went and got myself a SimpleTech 33.6 off eBay but it drew too much power> and
'nuked' my LX so that wasn't an option.
>> Well.... I have discovered the answers to my needs and thought I would >
share > it with everyone, since I'm sure there are others like me that want to
go > FAST! The answer is a 56K modem that Thaddeus is selling. It's a PC card
> modem that LXCIC recognizes and IS able to power down while it's in the > LX


So the processingpower of the LX is not a limitation in this aspect?

Why then is it impossible to transfer at higher speeds than 19000 with other
(external) modems?

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 09:50:56 -0500, Lars Hedstroem  =
wrote:

> So the processingpower of the LX is not a limitation in this aspect?
>
> Why then is it impossible to transfer at higher speeds than 19000 with =
other (external) modems?

I refer this question to the hardware experts.

Jeff

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> Can someone explain what BCC headers are,and what will happen if the =
emailclient doesn't process it right?

Blind Carbon Copy

Jeff

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BCC is the email's "blind carbon copy" field (like "To:", "Subject:" and "CC:"),
and allows you to send copies (like 'cc') to another person(s) without letting
the main recipients know that the 'bcc' people are getting a copy.  One
advantage is that you could bcc the note to a hundred people and their email
address won't show up on the other recipients' email note headers, thus cutting
down considerably on the size of the note.

I'll leave it to others to explain the consequences of not getting it right with
the email client.

- Longden





Lars Hedstroem  on 01/20/2000 06:50:48 AM

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> chris@amlog.demon.co.uk wrote:
> >
> > My ISP is adamant they are doing nothing wrong and it's the
> > e-mail client's responsibility to strip the BCC header. Rod
> > Whitby's posts seem to concur.

> > BCC is a common requirement,
> > and it can be embarrassing when it doesn't work.

Can someone explain what BCC headers are,and what will happen if the emailclient
doesn't process it right?

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I am a registered user of Buddy which I have installed on my double speed,
32 MB 200LX .  Recently, my LX went completely dead.  I sent it to Thaddeus
and they did a superb job of repairing it and sending right back.

But now Buddy no longer presents a "scramble" screen on booting up or
Off/on.

I checked the settings and they are correct.  I re-entered my registration
and still the same.

The password feature is working but it presents the last screen the LX was
on before turning off and freezes it there until the password is entered.
However previously it used to present a scrambled screen until the password
is entered and it refuses to do that anymore.

Any ideas?

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Longden wrote:


> BCC is the email's "blind carbon copy" field (like "To:", "Subject:" =
and "CC:"),
> and allows you to send copies (like 'cc') to another person(s) without =
letting
> the main recipients know that the 'bcc' people are getting a >copy.

But hey,this I have nedeed several times,I didn't even know it existed in =
Plus.

I don't know whether this is due to that I have read the manuals too =
careless or it is Dasoft which has been careless when writing them.

I guess it is the latter 

Thanks anyway Longden

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Longden wrote:

> The speed limitation using external modems connected to the serial port =
is > apparently due to the serial port, and not the processor.
> > The port is equipped with a 8250 UART chip that effectively limits =
the speed to
>
 14-19k.  Using the PC card slot, no such restriction exists

Yes,now I think I remember,it  was possible to change the
serial PCcard in my 486 desktop to get a faster speed,but I never understo=
od how this was possible.

Perhaps this is to go too far when asking,but I ask anyway.

How come this is possible,is there a little processor also in the serial =
PCcard?Or what is the answer to that a serial port limits the potential =
speed of the CPU?


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The 8250 UART chip I mentioned is the "little processor" in the LX serial port,
and it limits the speed.

On my desktop PC, the serial ports are equipped with a 16550AF UART chip, and I
believe that's what's in the PC card modem as well.

- Longden





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How come this is possible,is there a little processor also in the serial PCcard?

Or what is the answer to that a serial port limits the potential speed of the
CPU?

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Hi Peniel,

Peniel Romanelli wrote:
> Does anyone know of a good online reference for modem commands?  I've
> been following the discussion of the W2 command, but can't find it in
> any of my references or manuals.

I have a list of AT commands in HTML format on my palmtop. If you wwant
to get a copy, please email me off list.
It also lists the W2 command. :-)

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

F. Kaufman wrote:
> I'm not sure if they are GIVING it away.  I think it may be "limited" to
> those who used earlier versions of Word which are not y2k compliant.
> 5.5 is the lowest version which is compliant.
>
> It may be available 'officially' only to those who have a license for
> earlier versions.

No. They even give it away for free on the 'Y2K ressources CD' here in
Germany.
It's a CD with updates for all (?) programs that are not fully Y2K
compatible. Abd Word 5.5 is on the CD, not only an update, but the
entire program. You can install it on every machine, no matter if a
previous version is installed or not.

The CD was (maybe still is) available in some book shops here in Berlin
for free.

GTX
daniel

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Hi Domingo,

 dd diaz wrote:
> Hello.   Last night I dropped my palmtop into my kitchen
> floor, producing some undesirable results.   I was able to

Plug in the DC adapter of the palmtop (to not drain the backup battery
during the following process), open the main battery cover and remove the
batteries.

Do you see a little white part that looks like a screw? It should hold
the cylindrical screen 'tube' in place. Is it loose? If yes, try to fix
it.

Don't know if this helps, but I think it's worth a look.

GTX
daniel


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Hi Brian,

Brian McIlvaine wrote:
> issue on my HPLX. It works fine on my HPLX, but I would like to make it work
> under Win95 as well. I added the following to config.sys:
>
> This cause me to get a "Compatibility mode paging reduces system performance"
> warning when I booted up, and windows complained that I would see a decrease in

You have to let windows know that Secure Device is a harmless program!
:-)
You do that by adding a line with the full path of the driver and its
name into a file called IOS.INI in the WINDOWS directory.

I haven't tried that with SecDev, because I don't use it, but it works
for Laplink Remote.

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I finally got my Nokia 7110.. It works very well with my Hplx for mail
and news.

I have also tested Robot/Lx and the sms.scr. I can not seem to get the
phone/hplx to transfer more than 5 messages.. Can I tweak the script to
make it transfer more than 5 messages?

I currently have 25 messages on the phone for testing purposes. I have
removed the lines that delete the messages on the phone.

I am not sure if the message menu on the 7110 are the same as the 8810.
When I recevie messages they are placed at the "root", and when I have
read them they are moved to the Inbox.

Unread message1 (Root)
Unread message2 (Root)
Inbox
Outbox (Where sentmessages are moved too)
Archive (I can move messages here)
Templates

I can also add folders..

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Lars, and all:

> Can someone explain what BCC headers are,and what will happen if the
> emailclient doesn't process it right?

Don't be offended please if some of this you already know.

BCC stands for Blind Carbon Copy. In the old days of
typewriter you could create a CC Carbon Copy by using a
specially ink-treated paper that you would put between two
blank pages. The original went to the addressee and the
carbon copy, or multiple, went to others. It was customary
to say who received the CC (carbon Copy) in a section at
the bottom of the letter stating:

 cc: Joe
     Lars

There was also a possibility to send copies to other people
without letting the main receiver and CCs know. This was
called Blind Carbon Copy. It was usually used to file
special memoranda, or to include specific interested
parties.

The list of BCC was similarly listed, except it only showed
up on the copies that went to the BCCs, hence the word
"blind", only they knew they received it. And of course the
sender. The BCCs did not even know who the other BCCs were.

This kind of convention was carried over to email. The BCC
header means that you can send a letter to all your
customers, without showing their email addresses to all the
other customers. Basically you write your email, address it
to yourself, and put the list of customers in the BCC.

If the BCC header is not removed by the client program
(Post/LX does not) then the the list is sent to the mail
server. If the mail servers remove the header, as has been
the case for quite some time, then the email goes out to
all the customers without the header and the recipients do
not see the full list.

If the email server does not remove the BCC header, then
the email goes out to the recipients with it, and most
likely they can see the full list of email addresses of
recipients, if they bother to look in the headers of the
message.

Implication: If you want to hide the list, then be aware
that Post/LX will not remove the BCC header, and it means
you must rely on your email server (at the ISP) to do so.
If they do, fine. If not, then the list you tried to hide
will not be hidden.

I was under the impression that it was the job of the
email transfer agent (your ISP usually) to remove these
headers. This was not the case, as I found out in the past
few days, much to my chagrin. Andreas seems to lean to put
a warning message in Post/LX if BCC is used. We have a bit
of a disagreement here :) as you can imagine. I have asked
him to fix this in Post/LX, he says the recode will be
huge, and I will not argue with him because he is looking
at the actual code, I only speculate comfortably :) ....
So I believe him.

He also makes another interesting point: Instead of
pushing the function to thousands and thousands of copies
of Post/LX, or millions of other clients, the function
should really be housed in the few thousand email servers
in the world. It is an interesting POV, but not a solution
for now, unless we can somehow propose the change to the
standard and have the relevant RFCs amended.

I do not have any more information for now. If more comes
to light, I will share it with all of you here.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Brian.McIlvaine@unbounded.com wrote:
> All the login program does is communicate with the resident code in the
> secdev.sys. It would not matter that you did it under sysmgr, it would still

Well I was thinking that the request was for ALL of SD to be converted
to EXM including the resident device driver SYS code.

> rekey the encryption for SecDev for whatever timeout period (or for good, for
> that matter). The big advantage I see with an EXM file is the ability to use it
> for DOS related data files - for example, say I was running quicken in a dos
> session, but had timed out the secdev driver... I am caught between having to
> exit quicken to reenter the password, and quicken being unable to communicate
> with the secdev drive as it has timed out. So an exm program would let me
> refresh the secdev by switching within sysmgr.

I don't see the need for a special EXM version of Login.  Just switch to
a Dos session under Sysmgr, or another SC session, and run Login.com.
I have to do this often when I let my 13 minute timeout happen.

> The code for the login / logout is pretty straight forward. I could make it one
> program to do both.

I don't bother with Logout, I just use Login and hit enter when it asks
for the pw.  During past communication with the author he agreeded that
Logout doesn't do anything extra that is needed.

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Just wanted to report my trials with my new gadget: the Casio Cassiopeia A-11
running WinCE2.0

Originally, the Cassiopeia came with WinCE 1.0, not quite usable-grade, so I
upgraded it to WinCE 2.0 which pretty much gave me the added features (better
Pocket Internet Explorer and better desktop software) I wanted. Then I installed
a demo version RuckSun IMAP Force to see how I could deal with e-mail and a demo
of Calligrapher to see how good and fast handwriting recognition would be with
my left-handed scribbles. Here are the results:

Hardware:

The unit is a bit longer than the LX (about 1/2") and bit deeper (about 1/4")
and a bit heavier. It has a backlight, uses 2AA/rechargeable pack and has a
PCMCIA slot than can be turned off as well we a IR port. Screen is fairly
readable but i prefer the LX. Looking at the unit case, it simply doesn't come
up to the caliber of the LX: it has little nooks and crannies everywhere (for
the docking stations) and uses a screw for the backup battery. It also doesn't
have a straightforward DC power inlet: you need a special "charger" unit and a
charger. Screen works well with stylus but can also be used with a good nail.
Also a nice touch is the little "alarm silencer" button on the outside of the
case: no more opening the LX to stop an alarm! Also, there's a silent "alarm
light" on the case as well to tell you something is up.

Wince 2.0:

Usable, looks and feels like Windows. Apps are okay if you don't need to
customize too much and if you don't need too many options (the LX has *tons* in
every app). Classic "you have to adapt to the machine" paradigm. Haven't played
too much with the software.

Pocket Internet Explorer:

Seems to go to most websites without barfing. Not sure of the HTML limitations,
but it does tables and the sites do sort of look like the originals.

RuckSun IMAP Force:

A fine IMAP program, does the typical stuff you see in Outlook Express. I'll
need see Goin'Postal (is this the one?) to compare with an LX IMAP soft.

Calligrapher:

Pretty amazing program that could actually recognize my scribbles without any
training. Not the fastest on the planet, but you can keep on jotting and
whenever you slow down it pick up the scribbles and actually turns them into
works. (a nice touch of the Cassiopeia is that you can open it flat on a table
to allow you to jot as if on paper).

Desktop Software:

Typical software with a few twists: it has the usual sync with outlook, but if
you got TrueSync with your Franklin Rex Pro, you might want to use that instead
so you can sync with the Cassiopeia, Outlook and the Rex in one swoop. The nice
thing about the WinCE desktop software is that you can install/uninstall
software from the desktop via a checkbox list without actually deleting the
software from your desktop -- doesn't look like much, but what this means is
that you can install software for specific tasks and then uninstall it when you
don't need it anymore, only to reinstall it later (by using the checkboxes) when
you need it again. Also, the sync happens automatically, so no need to do
anything: just plug the unit and you're connected. If you can get a docking
station to drop it on, it's even nicer.

Overall:

Overall, this is not a bad little machine: backlight is a real plus in dim
lights (or airport or plane) and explorer does a good job of rendering web pages
and the IMAP and Calligrapher worked really well for me. Now if I can just find
a low power modem, I'll be totally free!

Let me know if you have any question!

Philippe

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Thanks to those of you who sent suggestions. I tried inserting the name of the
driver into IOS.INI in the Windows directory (that was the common theme) but
that did not fix the problem. I will continue to work it tonight to see if I
can make it work on a non PCMCIA based file - eliminate as many sources of
friction as I can.

I am still open to suggestions if anyone out there knows what to do.

Thanks!


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Well, while we are talking about this:
Since the palm organizers are definitely the wave of the
future, I think the most promising product is the TRGpro
handheld computer (URL is http://www.trgnet.com/ )
Not only can it use the Gotype keyboard like the others
('tis the only reason I am considering this thing), but also
it can use a standard compact flash card, instead of the yet
unproven springboard slot, which as you said, it's
vaporware.  The only problem is that the cf slot currently
supports storage only, not running of programs, but for a
palm device, it seems the only one going in the right
direction.  But they all seem so fragile! (Even the Palm V
seems unconvincing to me compared to my HPLX)

Just my thoughts.

Domingo

------Original Message------
From: gary 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 20, 2000 2:27:41 PM GMT
Subject: Handspring Visor


I've been an avid user of the 200LX for a number of years
and a lurker on this list on and off for the same amount of
time.  Over the past 6 months or so I guess I had become
bored with the LX and started to look for something
"sexier".  I checked all the alternatives out WinCE, IBM
110, Psion, Palm IIIv, and Visor etc.  I decided on the
Visor as that's were the buzz was and the price was right.
It took 10 weeks from my order date to recive a blue
Visor Delux.
While the Visor is a great piece of engineering with a rosy
future to say it was a little lacking compared to the LX
would be an understatement. First the thing is so small that
at times it feels like it will literally slip through my
fingers and I hate to imagine what would happen if this
thing hit the deck as hard as my LX has.  File usage between
the Visor and PC is a hassle and the built in apps suck.
However,  the vaporware about the
springboard slot looks  promising if it becomes hardware.

Anyway, I think its a real bum deal that the 200LX got
discontinued because there really isn't anything out there
that can compete in terms of functionality AND simplicity.

Just my 0010b cents

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Subject:      Re: Secure Device with Windows 95

Russel Brooks writes:
> I don't see the need for a special EXM version of Login.  Just switch to
> a Dos session under Sysmgr, or another SC session, and run Login.com.

I use DosLine.exm under MoreEXM to be able to run a DOS
command from anywhere in the Sysmgr.   It pops up a blank line
at the bottom of the screen (without clearing the rest of the
screen) and allows you to enter a single dos command.  This is
the easiest way to run login (IMHO).

You could also bind it to a hotkey using ExmBatch.

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Why are we all trying to find something to replace the 200LX.  Why not use
this unit until infinity and keep Thaddeus in business and thriving on
parts, etc.
I looked at the other units also out of curisionty - seems the 200LX
configuration
just cannot be directly replaced.  People are still trying to find the
old(18 year) 110
units.
I had one of those and it had one hell of a Lotus 1-2-3 tutorial on it.  If
it wasn't for
the lead weight I would still lug that thing around.  Long Live 200LX(and
Thaddeus).
I know it isn't "sexy" but I certainly don't have to be tethered to a PC
somewhere.

Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: gary 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 8:27 AM
Subject: Handspring Visor


> I've been an avid user of the 200LX for a number of years and a lurker on
> this list on and off for the same amount of time.  Over the past 6 months
or
> so I guess I had become bored with the LX and started to look for
something
> "sexier".  I checked all the alternatives out WinCE, IBM 110, Psion, Palm
> IIIv, and Visor etc.  I decided on the Visor as that's were the buzz was
and
> the price was right.  It took 10 weeks from my order date to recive a blue
> Visor Delux.
>
> While the Visor is a great piece of engineering with a rosy future to say
it
> was a little lacking compared to the LX would be an understatement. First
> the thing is so small that at times it feels like it will literally slip
> through my fingers and I hate to imagine what would happen if this thing
hit
> the deck as hard as my LX has.  File usage between the Visor and PC is a
> hassle and the built in apps suck.  However,  the vaporware about the
> springboard slot looks  promising if it becomes hardware.
>
> Anyway, I think its a real bum deal that the 200LX got discontinued
because
> there really isn't anything out there that can compete in terms of
> functionality AND simplicity.
>
> Just my 0010b cents
>
> Gary Christian
>
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I have one brand new copy of the Random House Websters Electronic Dictionary
& Thesaurus College Edition For Sale. Instant access to 180,000 words with
definitions and 275,000 Synonyms. Besides a normal look up of a word, It
allows a look up via a definitions search and wildcard search. Requires 5.6
MB to install. It is still in the original shrink wrap and is on 3 1/2"
floppy disks. This package originally cost $99.99 I am asking $50.00 which
includes shipping within the United States. Please email me direct if your
interested.

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Has anyone compared this to the Collens Dictionary?

Lynn M. Cavendish

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--- gary  wrote:
>
> Just my 0010b cents

I get it...2 cents in binary.

But would 2 be in Hex?

(I'm joking, of course)

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Date:         Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:29:43 -0800
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Hello,

I always thought the big differences between the 100
and 200LX was that the 200LX screen was slightly
easier to read and the 200 had quicken built in.

So I could never understand why the 200LX has so many
upgrade options (like 32MB etc) and the 100LX only
seems to be upgradable to double-speed? (which to me
is liking multiplying by 0 :)

I know that the 200LX has some design changes around
the SG5/6 area, but is the 100LX so much different
that it can't be beefed up a bit?

It just seems funny that 3rd party companies have
spent the time and effort to design upgrades, but yet
they think the 100LX is so different that there
designs won't work.

Hey, I am no engineer, but I would be curious to know
what the problem(s) are.



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Date:         Thu, 20 Jan 2000 21:30:56 -0800
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Hello,

Is HP ever planning to come out with a real upgrade
from the 200LX (besides the 300/600 series)?


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Date:         Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:14:14 -0800
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--- Curtis Cameron  wrote:
> The ony time I get frustrated
> by its lack of
> speed is when doing a search in the built-in apps,
> and if it takes 15
> seconds instead of 30, that's a big improvement.
>
I never thought of the 100lx as being a real
speed-demon.  I don't mind it's speed really, it's
more that I don't think that a double speed is that
much of an improvement.  But that might be becuase I
am unfairly comparing this to the speed increases I
acheive when I upgrade my desktop system (ussually in
the order of 6X or greater on average).  You make a
very good point though... although I never thought of
the 100lx as fast, I never had to wait anywhere near
30 seconds to find something. In that case, a 100%
speed increase probably would make a big difference.


> The changes I've noticed about my wife's 100LX vs.
> my 200LX are:
>
> * The 200LX's screen is *much* easier to read - it
> has a better
> contrast.
This is very good to know, I always thought it was a
marginal increase...this alone sounds worth the cost
of a 200lx.

>
> * The 200LX offers a "datacard" view in its phone
> and database apps.
> The 100LX can show only the column view.
Never thought that the 100lx's phonebook was anything
but the best phone app I have ever seen on a handheld.
 But Datacard sounds like it would be very useful.

>
> * When the 200LX starts each day, the ApptBook comes
> up with a window
> showing your items for that day, and a
> tip-of-the-day if you have that
> set. The 100LX doesn't.
I agree that that's a very nice feature.


>
> * The 200LX had LapLink built-in, but I think the
> 100LX doesn't.
You're right it doesn't but I have used the Zip
transfer program and it works well.

> * The TransfileWin200 program works with the 200LX,
> but not the 100LX.
I have to correct you here...I just used the Transfile
200 program between my 100LX and a win 98 machine and
it works perfectly.   However, I did try it with an NT
4.0 machine and it didn't work at all.


I am still curious as to why the 100LX can't be as
easily upgraded to higher than 2MB.  Perhaps someone
else will post the answer.

Curtis, Thanks for the info, it is much appreciated.

Questor

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Date:         Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:17:32 -0800
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:

> So I could never understand why the 200LX has so many upgrade options
> (like 32MB etc) and the 100LX only seems to be upgradable to
> double-speed? (which to me is liking multiplying by 0 :)

The 200LX has a spot on the motherboard for a memory module, and the 100LX
doesn't.  Thus, making a memory upgrade is possible for the 200LX, but the
100LX wasn't designed with it in mind, so no luck.  If it was
cost-effective to do a 100LX memory upgrade, you can believe it would have
been done by now.  It's not, for technical reasons, not prejudice against
the 100LX.

Most other upgrades, like the backlight, the external speaker jack, and
the speed upgrade will work with the 100LX just fine.

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:

> This is very good to know, I always thought it was a marginal
> increase...this alone sounds worth the cost of a 200lx.

Unfortunately, the screens are highly variable within either palmtop, so
you're just as likely to get a 200LX with a worse screen than your 100LX.

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Date:         Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:27:36 -0800
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              Steven Lawson 
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Subject:      Post/LX & BCC/8-bit headers
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> few days, much to my chagrin. Andreas seems to lean to put
> a warning message in Post/LX if BCC is used. We have a bit
> of a disagreement here :) as you can imagine. I have asked
> him to fix this in Post/LX, he says the recode will be
> huge, and I will not argue with him because he is looking
> at the actual code, I only speculate comfortably :) ....
> So I believe him.

I assume if he says that BCC: removal is a huge chore that he's currently
handing the email header+body to the server as a big chunk.  He would need
to parse the header lines one at a time in order to remove the Bcc:
before it goes to the server.

On the other hand, once that change was made then getting the
quoted-printable characters right in the header would be easier (not only
the Subject: line needs this, but real names in the To:, From:, etc lines
sometimes are also encoded)

If you need some leverage, let him know that Goin' Postal V3 (release)
already handles quoted-printable encoding/decoding of header lines, and
the BCC support in V4 (beta) does remove the Bcc: header line when sending
to the server.  It'll either motivate him to change it, or he'll blow a
gasket on you!  :-)

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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 00:52:58 -0800
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              A Meshar 
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Steve,

Since Andreas reads this list :-) he has either blown a
gasket, or is now furiously coding, or none of these. I
think the latter is true. Andreas is very much his own
person, and I do not imagine myself successfully putting
pressure on him. As my partner in this endeavour I refrain
from using any muscle on him - he is one of the closest
friends I have ever had in my life and will not sacrifice
the friendship to put any pressure on him :-) ... But
thanks for the motivating words. I think he expressed the
scope of the job as you did, having to parse the whole
thing.

I imagine that Andreas has looked at that situation right
away and his decision was what it was based on what he saw
in the code. I trust when he tells me it is a tough job.
He is a gifted programmer as you know.

I am glad that you are moving GP in that direction, this is
good for the customers and users of the 200LX.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com


Steven Lawson wrote:
> > few days, much to my chagrin. Andreas seems to lean to put
> > a warning message in Post/LX if BCC is used. We have a bit
> > of a disagreement here :) as you can imagine. I have asked
> > him to fix this in Post/LX, he says the recode will be
> > huge, and I will not argue with him because he is looking
> > at the actual code, I only speculate comfortably :) ....
> > So I believe him.
>
> I assume if he says that BCC: removal is a huge chore that he's currently
> handing the email header+body to the server as a big chunk.  He would need
> to parse the header lines one at a time in order to remove the Bcc:
> before it goes to the server.
>
> On the other hand, once that change was made then getting the
> quoted-printable characters right in the header would be easier (not only
> the Subject: line needs this, but real names in the To:, From:, etc lines
> sometimes are also encoded)
>
> If you need some leverage, let him know that Goin' Postal V3 (release)
> already handles quoted-printable encoding/decoding of header lines, and
> the BCC support in V4 (beta) does remove the Bcc: header line when sending
> to the server.  It'll either motivate him to change it, or he'll blow a
> gasket on you!  :-)
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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 03:59:28 -0500
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              Martin Bergvill 
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On 19 Jan 2000 22:55:00 -0800, Hans Peter Staber
 wrote:

> You may use the
>
>   Wrote=%s wrote:
>
> command line in both your mailbox as well as your newsgroup sectionS.
> If you add this line to lets say to your palmtop newsgroup folder
>
> ÝPalmtops¨
> ...
> Wrote=%s wrote:
> ...
>
> all your replies will be preceded with the quote of the guy who wrote
> the original post.

Yes this is true for all the newsgroups I have, included the groups on
the hplx newsserver. But _not_ the list.hplx. In the list.hplx when I
reply I get this:

 wrote:

As the first line..

I think that this has with the fact that when I reply the message is
placed in the email outbox because of the maillistaddress in the
moderated field.

I use this Wrote thingy on my mailbox, and Posth for the rest.. That is
okey for me. I do not want to add more in the post.cfg, because it is
getting big and are getting close to the limit (>7000)

Thanks for your help..

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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 03:59:39 -0500
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On 20 Jan 2000 02:55:46 -0800, Lars Hedstroem  wrote:

> Do you use this Accton -2?

Yes I use it both at home and at the university. It works very well. I
also have a german newsserver which works as the hplxserver with
username/password and is not isp dependent..slow but works okey..

> > Hurray for all the people that have helped me over the past year with
> > everything. I will stay with the Hplx for a long time !
> >
>
> Perhaps we also will see each other in the old people's home LXing? 

Yes I see you there :-))

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On 20 Jan 2000 04:08:57 -0800, Lars Hedstroem  wrote:

> Martin wrote:
>
> > I would like to thank everybody on this list for all there usefull
> > applications and help..
> >
> > I am now connected to my schools network with my Ethernetcard
>

> But how does this work actually?Are you connected 24hours a day?How
> are you connected to this intranetwork?

When I have a spare moment I pull out my Hp from my pocket and connect
the ethernetdongle to the networkcabel which are supposed to go into
the universitys pc's.. I just unplug it and plug it into my
ethernetcard. Then I run the files I need to get it going and I am then
up and running and I can mail and download mail/news..

I am connected only when I am at the university..

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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 04:45:16 -0500
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Avi wrote:

> Lars, and all:
>
> BCC stands for Blind Carbon Copy. In the old days of
> typewriter you could create a CC Carbon Copy by using a
> specially ink-treated paper that you would put between two
>


Just wanted to say thanks for your thorough answer Avi,and also say that =
if it is a reasonable amount of BCC:s to send it is quite easy to do it =
manually by just enter edit,tab to the To-field,enter the new adress and =
press OK.

I used to do so in WWW/LX 1.1 anyway.

(BTW,I have noticed that they who never had to struggle with 1.1  seem so =
spoiled :-))


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Martin wrote:


> When I have a spare moment I pull out my Hp from my pocket and connect =
> the ethernetdongle to the networkcabel which are supposed to go into > =
the universitys pc's.. I just unplug it and plug it into my > ethernetcard=
. Then I run the files I need to get it going and I am then > up and =
running and I can mail and download mail/news..
>
> I am connected only when I am at the university..

OK,then I understand.I thought you in some way had managed to connect to =
the network of the University from home and could reach internet for free =
that way.

There was no need then of an  Accton -1?Works just as well with a -2 =
card?

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Sorry if this does not match the list subject; I'm trying to read with a
Libretto 100 a 48Mb Sandisk CFC used with the 200LX, without success.
If any of you has already done it, please get in touch with me to exchange
info on the configuration.

By the way I found that inserting the CFC in the 200 soon after having
removed
it from a pc may lock the 200 to the point it does not switch on at all.
This may be due to some charge built up on the pins of the card.
It is better to wait some time (one hour) before reintroducing the card in
the 200.

Regards

Sergio

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Hi all,

I've had an Accton EN2216-1 card for some time now, but
it has rested undisturbed in my desk drawer since I was
not able to get it set up.

Yesterday I decided to give it another try.  Using NORI's
article  I was
able to connect to the Netware network at work.  While
connected, I could ping a server within the local network,
but could not access anything beyond the firewall.

My network admin tells me the traffic out of the firewall
is restricted to certain login names, and to get beyond
the firewall I have to connect to the ethernet with my
local username and password.  Is there a way to do this
with any of the network drivers for the LX?

By the way, I'm assuming the following sets of software
are roughly comparable:

  op2216.exe/pd2212.com  <-->  lxen2216.com
  pdipx.com/netx.exe     <-->  dhcp.exe

Am I close here, or way off track?

Thanks for any help!

Ted

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Martin,

> also have a german newsserver which works as the hplxserver with
> username/password

Oh, what is the address?

Regards

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Theodore,

>   op2216.exe/pd2212.com  <-->  lxen2216.com
>   pdipx.com/netx.exe     <-->  dhcp.exe
>
> Am I close here, or way off track?
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> Ted
>
> --
> Theodore Heise      West Lafayette, IN, USA

Have a look at

   http://www.hplx.net/
   http://rwhitby.hplx.org/

Get the latest version of lxcic from Stefan Peichl

   http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/


Regards

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Brian;

   Don't know if this applies, but when I was
trying to install W98 on a recalcitrant computer
(thinking it might be easier than installing
W95) the only way to see my magneto-optical (MO)
drive was to disable 32 bit file and 32 bit disk
access in control panel, system, performance,
advanced settings file system, troubleshooting,
disable all 32 bit protect mode disk drives.
This (IIRC) got the MO online, and promptly
dropped the CD-ROM or another of my drives.
But the 16 bit real mode MO driver was accepted.
If SecDev is 16 bit and it needs this you may
neet 16 bit drivers for some other devices on
your box.  Even though I got W98 installed after
about 45 tries, I found it easier to not use W98
on that box.

HTH

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Sergio,

I also use a 48mb Sandisk CF in both my 200LX and my Omnibook 800CT (notebook
computer), and have never experienced a lockup problem on the LX in swapping the
card between the machines.  Usually my swaps are done in under 10 seconds (pop
out of OB and then back into LX).

Perhaps there's a problem with the card, and maybe that's why the Libretto can't
read it?  I don't have a Libretto so I can't vouch for how it works with the CF
card.

- Longden





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Sorry if this does not match the list subject; I'm trying to read with a
Libretto 100 a 48Mb Sandisk CFC used with the 200LX, without success.
If any of you has already done it, please get in touch with me to exchange
info on the configuration.

By the way I found that inserting the CFC in the 200 soon after having
removed
it from a pc may lock the 200 to the point it does not switch on at all.
This may be due to some charge built up on the pins of the card.
It is better to wait some time (one hour) before reintroducing the card in
the 200.

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Questor Jones wrote:
>I always thought the big differences between the 100
>and 200LX was that the 200LX screen was slightly
>easier to read and the 200 had quicken built in.
>
>So I could never understand why the 200LX has so many
>upgrade options (like 32MB etc) and the 100LX only
>seems to be upgradable to double-speed? (which to me
>is liking multiplying by 0 :)

I thought they were similar too, until I came across a 100LX recently
to give to my wife. My guess about why some options aren't available
for the 100 is that there are more significant differences internally.

And as for the double-speed being like multiplying by zero, I think
what you're saying is that the LX is so slow that it doesn't matter,
but that's backwards. The ony time I get frustrated by its lack of
speed is when doing a search in the built-in apps, and if it takes 15
seconds instead of 30, that's a big improvement.

The changes I've noticed about my wife's 100LX vs. my 200LX are:

* The 200LX's screen is *much* easier to read - it has a better
contrast.

* The 200LX offers a "datacard" view in its phone and database apps.
The 100LX can show only the column view.

* When the 200LX starts each day, the ApptBook comes up with a window
showing your items for that day, and a tip-of-the-day if you have that
set. The 100LX doesn't.

* The 200LX had LapLink built-in, but I think the 100LX doesn't.

* The TransfileWin200 program works with the 200LX, but not the 100LX.

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Daniel
I have been trying to get Laplink remote working from my WIN 95 machine to
my 200LX and my Omnibook 425. I had just about given up on it since
travelling software says it won't work.
It sounds like you have found a way to make it works with WIN95.
Perhaps you could give us the setup procedure?

Thanks

Andrew King
IIT Physics
Chicago 312-567-3021
technology is the answer,
what was the question?

Date:    Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:58:25 -0500
From:    Daniel Hertrich 
Subject: Re: Secure Device with Windows 95

You have to let windows know that Secure Device is a harmless program!
You do that by adding a line with the full path of the driver and its
name into a file called IOS.INI in the WINDOWS directory.

I haven't tried that with SecDev, because I don't use it, but it works
for Laplink Remote.

GTX
daniel
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Andrew,

Details of Win95 to 200LX connectivity via Laplink is described at this site:

http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/w95.htm

I should note that the site mentions "LOS.INI", but I think it was a typo ...
probably should be "IOS.INI" as Daniel mentioned.

- Longden





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Daniel
I have been trying to get Laplink remote working from my WIN 95 machine to
my 200LX and my Omnibook 425. I had just about given up on it since
travelling software says it won't work.
It sounds like you have found a way to make it works with WIN95.
Perhaps you could give us the setup procedure?

Thanks

Andrew King
IIT Physics
Chicago 312-567-3021
technology is the answer,
what was the question?

Date:    Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:58:25 -0500
From:    Daniel Hertrich 
Subject: Re: Secure Device with Windows 95

You have to let windows know that Secure Device is a harmless program!
You do that by adding a line with the full path of the driver and its
name into a file called IOS.INI in the WINDOWS directory.

I haven't tried that with SecDev, because I don't use it, but it works
for Laplink Remote.

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It's very simple to get LapLink Remote Access working under the =
Microsoft
Windows 95 operating system.

1.  Create a batch file with the following single command in it (mine =
is
named LLRAWIN.BAT):

      command /k llra.bat

     (The LLRA.BAT file was created at the time of my installation of =
the
package Commworks for Windows.  If you want to see the contents of that =
file
on my machine, look at the bottom of this message.)

2.  Put a shortcut on your desktop to point to this batch file.

3.  Modify the properties of this shortcut and in the Advanced Program
Settings, put a check in the "Prevent MS-DOS-based programs from =
detecting
Windows" box.

Alan Striegel

LLRA.BAT
---
echo off

if not exist llra1.exe goto NOFILES
if not exist llra2.exe goto NOFILES
if not exist llra3.exe goto NOFILES

llra2 /# %1

if errorlevel 3 goto LLCMD
if errorlevel 2 goto UNINSTC
if errorlevel 1 goto UNINSTNC

llra1
llra2
llra3 %1 %2 %3
if errorlevel 1 goto END
if not exist llra4.exe goto end
llra4
goto END

:NOFILES
echo =FF
echo Cannot run LapLink Remote Access because one (or more) files are
missing.
echo =FF
goto END

:LLCMD
llra3 %1
goto END

:UNINSTC
llra4 /u
:UNINSTNC
llra3 /u
if errorlevel 1 goto END
llra2 /u
llra1 /u

:END
echo

>From: Andrew King Ýmailto:kinga@IIT.EDU¨
>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 10:44 AM
>
>I have been trying to get Laplink remote working from my WIN 95 =
machine to
>my 200LX and my Omnibook 425. I had just about given up on it since
>travelling software says it won't work.
>It sounds like you have found a way to make it works with WIN95.
>Perhaps you could give us the setup procedure?

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Note, that you do *NOT* have to install LapLink Remote Access before
starting Windows 95, as suggested in the page Longden referenced.  The
method described in my last message works just fine anytime you want.

It will limit your access to the mapped drives you create to programs run
from that instance of the command processor, but I have always preferred
XtreeGold to manage my files on the palmtop anyway and that is what I use
after I make the link.

To clarify, if you want to use Windows programs to manipulate the palmtop's
files, then you should start LapLink Remote Access before Windows but if you
intend to work with MS-DOS utilities from the Windows 95 machine then you
can use the procedure I described.

Alan

>From: Longden Loo Ýmailto:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM¨
>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 10:54 AM
>...
>Details of Win95 to 200LX connectivity via Laplink is described at this
site:
>
>http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/w95.htm

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Do these techniques work under Win98?

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Hi palmtoppers!
I've bought a secon hand 8Mb DS Hp200lx some months ago.
Now I've begun to use it every day and I've notived that
the hp litterally EATS the batteries: I can get only 4
hours from a couple oh new Duracell Ultra: It's
unbelivable!
Before I bought this unit I had a bare hp200lx (2mb,SS):
I got about 35 hours from 2 rechargeable GP cells (1350 mA).
I love the long-lasting working time on 2 cells: it's
the most important feature to me, and it is the first
thing I've considered choosing the hplx architecture.
Can u help me solving this problem? I don't think
that 3.5-4 hrs is a normal behaviour for the hp: it seems
to me that the unit I have drains the batteries even if it
is off (at the same rate that it uses the batteries when
it is on and working) .

Note: the filer is always closed (closeflr.com), the serial
port is off in DOS, I always use the adpater with my cards:
Megahertz 3144 modem, accton 2216-1 ethernet, sandisk 64mb
compact flash end even for serial data trasfers.
These are my autoexec.bat and config.sys:

Ýautoexec.bat¨
@echo off
prompt $p$g
path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;c:\bin;c:\bin\pe
c:\bin\andrew3.com
c:\bin\nofiddle.com
c:\bin\exm\battlog
200

Ýconfig.sys¨
buffers=20
files=30
lastdrive=k
device=c:\bin\spd31.sys

Any idea, any hint, any tip/trick is really welcome...

Bye
Raffaele
Italy

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Hi!
I'm interested in the REX synchronization project.
I think that the idea of overwriting the rex memory
is enough for me. Can anyone tell me where can I
buy a (used) REX (256kb fits my needs)?

Bye
Raffaele
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Some random thoughts & predictions on this:

> Since the palm organizers are definitely the wave of the
> future, I think the most promising product is the TRGpro
>
I too believe that the Palm organizers are a model for many future designs,
especially when one considers the fact that most folks (unlike us) aren't really
looking for a fully-functional pocket computer. However, I do expect that
today's Palm Pilots will disappear, and become integrated into other devices,
like cell phones, pagers and watches. Qualcomm already has a phone/Pilot combo,
and Nokia (?) has a phone/Rex combo. Why carry more than one device if you don't
really have to?

> I know it isn't "sexy" but I certainly don't have to be tethered to a PC
> somewhere.
>
Actually, one possible future device that I might give up my LX for would tether
me to my desktop computer even more: an LX-size pocket client device that makes
a high-speed cellular connection to your PC server, running something like PC
Anywhere. All files on your hard drive would be accessible to you, anywhere you
go, and all applications could be run remotely too. You'd never have to back-up,
or sync, or worry about what to take with you and what to leave behind.

Rich investors please contact me at the above address. ;-)

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Your suggestion looks more promising than trying to take the
palmtop apart.  The while thing doesn't look like a screw to
me, but it is very tight, and it appears to be the thing
preventing the latch from engagin.  Does yours engage above
the white thing (next to the battery) or just below?  Is
there a simple way to remove the metal band which is keeping
the white thing in place? Should I even try doing that?

Domingo

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Sent: January 20, 2000 8:58:29 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Dropped palmtop, help!!!



Hi Domingo,

dd diaz wrote:
> Hello.   Last night I dropped my palmtop into my kitchen
> floor, producing some undesirable results.   I was able to

Plug in the DC adapter of the palmtop (to not drain the
backup battery during the following process), open the main
battery cover and remove the batteries.

Do you see a little white part that looks like a screw? It
should hold the cylindrical screen 'tube' in place. Is it
loose? If yes, try to fix it.

Don't know if this helps, but I think it's worth a look.

GTX
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The normal advice for this seems to be to remove all batteries, leave it a while (hours even), put them back in, and restart it from scratch.  Of course take a backup first !

I had one that did this and I had HP repair it (expensive); they just replaced the main board and it was fine after that.

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> Your suggestion looks more promising than trying to take the
> palmtop apart.  The while thing doesn't look like a screw to
> me, but it is very tight, and it appears to be the thing
> preventing the latch from engagin.  Does yours engage above
> the white thing (next to the battery) or just below?  Is
> there a simple way to remove the metal band which is keeping
> the white thing in place? Should I even try doing that?

Just turn the white thing 90 degrees with a small flathead
screwdriver, compress the hinge cover back into place and turn the
white thing back into place.

Cheers,
 Mack                            mailto:mack@times2tech.com

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Personally, I haven't tried it under Windows 98 yet.  My home system is
running Windows 90 SE, but I spend most of my day running Windows 95 on the
ThinkPad at the office.  Maybe I can try it at home later tonight.

Alan

>From: Chris Lott Ýmailto:rclott@RO.COM¨
>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:40 AM
>
>Do these techniques work under Win98?

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I am not an expert, but I have been reading some things
which make me suggest the following:

-Leave Filer open all the time (something about Filer
helping with power consumption).
-REM out nofiddle (probably no relation to this problem, but
it did seem to interfere with my attemp to print from the IR
port).

What is the spd31.sys driver for?

I am sure others can come up with better ideas.

Domingo

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Sent: January 21, 2000 5:04:32 PM GMT
Subject: The hp EATS the batteries :)


Hi palmtoppers!
I've bought a secon hand 8Mb DS Hp200lx some months ago.
Now I've begun to use it every day and I've notived that
the hp litterally EATS the batteries: I can get only 4
hours from a couple oh new Duracell Ultra: It's
unbelivable!

(snip)

Note: the filer is always closed (closeflr.com), the serial
port is off in DOS, I always use the adpater with my cards:
Megahertz 3144 modem, accton 2216-1 ethernet, sandisk 64mb
compact flash end even for serial data trasfers.
These are my autoexec.bat and config.sys:

Ýautoexec.bat¨
(snip)
c:\bin\nofiddle.com

Ýconfig.sys¨
(snip)
device=c:\bin\spd31.sys

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>My home system is running Windows 90 SE

Oops.  You know I meant to say Windows 98 SE.

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Would that make it more directly compatible with Word for
Windows?

Domingo

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(#2000


Word 6.0 will handle TrueType fonts.

Bob

dd diaz wrote:

> Hi.  Anyone knows why Microsoft is giving away Word  5.5
and
> not Word 6 for DOS? I see that all the time on Ebay.
What's
> the difference?
>
> Domingo

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Hi.
I have a lot of batch files that I run from time to time.
Batch files that makes backups, chkdsk all drives, configures my Accton
and fires up www/lx with dhcp etc etc

How does on do to get a batch file that shows me a menue of all theese
.bat files to choose from so that I only have to run one bat file for
everything.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Raffaele Gaioni wrote:

> Can u help me solving this problem? I don't think that 3.5-4 hrs is a
> normal behaviour for the hp: it seems to me that the unit I have
> drains the batteries even if it is off (at the same rate that it uses
> the batteries when it is on and working) .

Really, if it's going through batteries that fast, I'd suspect a problem
with the machine.  Normal current use for an 8MB double-speed machine is
about 75mA, and that's when light sleep is disabled.  Sounds like your
machine is using far more than that, and it shouldn't be.

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Guenther Helmuth E. wrote:

> Have a look at
>
>    http://www.hplx.net/
>    http://rwhitby.hplx.org/
>
> Get the latest version of lxcic from Stefan Peichl
>
>    http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/


Good suggestions, but I had already done that before I asked
my questions.  Currently I'm still stuck.  I've gotten to the
point of running netx.  After I run it I get the message
"Attached to server MEDFS1"  My network admin can see me
attached and not logged in.

At this point I'm attached, but don't know how to login.  I
have a 32M 200LX upgrade drive and it's the one I get after
typing "f:".  My config.sys has lastdrive=J, but g, h, i, and
j are not available.  I tried running netx /c=net.cfg with
the contents:

netware dos requestor
        first network drive = g

but that didn't work either.  If anyone has any suggestions, I
would *love* to hear them.

Ted

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> Good suggestions, but I had already done that before I asked
> my questions.  Currently I'm still stuck.  I've gotten to the
> point of running netx.  After I run it I get the message
> "Attached to server MEDFS1"  My network admin can see me
> attached and not logged in.

I don't know if this matters or not.  On my last job, we had
a Novell file server.  I did the NETX program, and could mount
the F: drive.  But you still have to login - this is no different
from any other DOS machine connecting to the network.  On our
system, you would change to the f:\public directory, where the
login.exe (or was it .com) program was located.  I'm sorry but
I can't check this anymore, as my new office doesn't have a Novell
system.

Good luck,

-Chris Lott

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Theodore Heise wrote:

> At this point I'm attached, but don't know how to login.  I have a 32M
> 200LX upgrade drive and it's the one I get after typing "f:".  My
> config.sys has lastdrive=J, but g, h, i, and j are not available.  I
> tried running netx /c=net.cfg with the contents:

As I recall, with NETX, the first network drive is the drive letter AFTER
your lastdrive setting.  Try going to drive K: and logging in from there.

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I have a new Visor also - it was the upcoming mp3 player that hooked
me. (Real Soon Now )  But one thing I found on the web that
intrigued me was finding  a Java VM for the Palm OS.  Who would've
thought? Now I don't have an excuse to _not_ learn Java.

I'm carrying both my LX and the Visor in my purse.  I don't know
which one will win out in the long run but they both get used.

Terry


On 20 Jan 00 at 9:27, gary wrote:

> While the Visor is a great piece of engineering with a rosy future
> to say it was a little lacking compared to the LX would be an
> understatement. First the thing is so small that at times it feels
> like it will literally slip through my fingers and I hate to imagine
> what would happen if this thing hit the deck as hard as my LX has.
> File usage between the Visor and PC is a hassle and the built in
> apps suck.  However,  the vaporware about the springboard slot looks
>  promising if it becomes hardware.
>
> Anyway, I think its a real bum deal that the 200LX got discontinued
> because there really isn't anything out there that can compete in
> terms of functionality AND simplicity.
>
> Just my 0010b cents
>
> Gary Christian
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Lars wrote:

> OK,then I understand.I thought you in some way had managed to connect
> to the network of the University from home and could reach internet for
> free that way.

Alcatel and the students organisation + the university here in Narvik
are working to provide internet vi cable to the students home in a
certain area of Narvik..but not for me..

> There was no need then of an  Accton -1?Works just as well with a -2 card?

It seems that it works very well. I have also used the coax on the
dongle and I have not gotten any battery low message..(yet)

Bye..

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              Ed Padin 
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There are many solutions to that one. Are you interested in a canned
application that you configure, something that you write from scratch or
something that automatically finds the batch files and creates the menu?

Are the batch files interactive?

Do they need command-line parameters?


I've written my own little menuing system using lxbatch. It's not easily
distributed but is a neat little program. I can send you my source if you're
interested.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tomas Moberg Ýmailto:Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE¨
>Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 1:26 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ .BAT quesstion.
>
>
>Hi.
>I have a lot of batch files that I run from time to time.
>Batch files that makes backups, chkdsk all drives, configures my Accton
>and fires up www/lx with dhcp etc etc
>
>How does on do to get a batch file that shows me a menue of all theese
>.bat files to choose from so that I only have to run one bat file for
>everything.
>
>      /tomas moberg
>                       Uppsala
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Thanks, I'll try it when I get home (no tools at work).
What about the metal band?  I took another look, and it
seems the band would prevent the white thingy from turning
90 degrees.  No idea how to remove it.

Domingo

------Original Message------
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 21, 2000 5:59:02 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Dropped palmtop, help!!!


Just turn the white thing 90 degrees with a small flathead
screwdriver, compress the hinge cover back into place and
turn the
white thing back into place.

Cheers,
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:16:32 -0500, dd diaz  wrote:

> seems the band would prevent the white thingy from turning

I make a motion that we name the white thingy 'George' . I would hate =
to
go through life being known as 'white thingy' . Seriously though, I =
hope
that you get you LX back it working order, it's a real pain in the rear =
when
they are broken :(

Jeff

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, dd diaz wrote:

> Thanks, I'll try it when I get home (no tools at work). What about the
> metal band?  I took another look, and it seems the band would prevent
> the white thingy from turning 90 degrees.  No idea how to remove it.

You can just pull it out of the way while you do the turning, and then let
it fall back into place.  It doesn't interfere too much.

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--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: frayn@home.com (Perry Frayn)
Subject: Hp 200 LX Speaker problem
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 04:03:43 GMT

I'm a lucky guy and own a real palmtop.  HP200LX

I have a problem with the speaker not working.  If I push with light =
pressure,
roughly on the bottom of the case in the center the speaker will work.

I've had the unit apart a few times trying to figure out what the problems=
 is.
The point at where I am pushing is right above the two little spring =
contacts
for the speaker. I've tried stretching the springs just a little to see =
if
that will make up for the pushing.  Tightening the case screws in differen=
t
patterns. Everything I could think of. Is there a trick I'm missing here. =
I
only took the case apart to solve this problem. (The problem was not self
induced.)

I'm starting to think the case has a slight warp in it. Can a new bottom =
of
this case still be obtained?  Where?

Anyone else have this problem.

regards , Perry Frayn




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              "Striegel, Alan" 
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Tim,

     Before I answer your question, why does your e-mail give me in the
From: field, "Reed, Lashon D. SGT --13CC", instead of your own name?

     I have never used LLRA under Windows 98 (at least not yet).  My system
is currently running Windows 95 OSR2.  On this system, my LLRA files are all
in a separate directory under "C:\Program Files".  And that is where I run
the batch file from.

     As for the LLRA.BAT, it could be that they always look the same.  The
major changes between what exists in the 200LX and what I use on the laptop
appear to be in the TSI.INI file.

Alan Striegel

-----Original Message-----
From: Reed, Lashon D. SGT --13CC Ýmailto:RAYMONDT@hood-emh3.army.mil¨
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 1:09 PM
To: 'Striegel, Alan'
Subject: RE: Laplink Remote on WIN95 machine?


Alan,

"Dumb" question(s), Does the batch file you cited in the LX list message
work under Win98 and which of the LLRA#.exe files do I copy to my Win98
machine (or all?) and should I put them into the Windows, Windows\command
directory or another spot?

As a side note, that "llra.bat" file you mention is in the D:\bin directory
of my 200LX and looks pretty much the same as the one you cite Ýdidn't do a
line by line w/ a machine, just scrolled both and looked¨.

TIA,

--tim

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Terry,

Ive been using a Palm V + 1000cx combo for some time now, and they both
definitely have their uses... Of course it helps that the 1000cx doesnt have
a builtin
PIM so im not tempted to put numbers etc in it instead of my Palm. 

Ive found that I take the Palm V with me EVERYWHERE... its easy to just
pickup
and forget its there....   I carry the 1000cx whenever i need DOS
compatibility, and
carry my Libretto whenever I need Windows for something.    It works out
quite
well, although I wish I could find the 'ONE' device that did it all, but
alas so is life ;-)

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Owen 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
Date: Friday, January 21, 2000 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Handspring Visor


I have a new Visor also - it was the upcoming mp3 player that hooked
me. (Real Soon Now )  But one thing I found on the web that
intrigued me was finding  a Java VM for the Palm OS.  Who would've
thought? Now I don't have an excuse to _not_ learn Java.

I'm carrying both my LX and the Visor in my purse.  I don't know
which one will win out in the long run but they both get used.

Terry




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              Fryday 
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I guess I'm still biased against the palmpilot. With all the computing power
these little machines can handle, we still need to learn a script that the
machine recognizes. Well probably not unlike learning how to type, but to me,
one way or the other, it's a perfect example of both lowering people's
expectations so they are happy with an inferior design and having to adapt to a
machine rather than the other way around.

Design-wise, I want a MessagePad with the form factor of the Palmpilot.

Philippe

----- Original Message -----
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To: 
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 9:06 AM
Subject: FLUFF: Re: Handspring Visor


> Some random thoughts & predictions on this:
>
> > Since the palm organizers are definitely the wave of the
> > future, I think the most promising product is the TRGpro
> >
> I too believe that the Palm organizers are a model for many future designs,
> especially when one considers the fact that most folks (unlike us) aren't
really
> looking for a fully-functional pocket computer. However, I do expect that
> today's Palm Pilots will disappear, and become integrated into other devices,
> like cell phones, pagers and watches. Qualcomm already has a phone/Pilot
combo,
> and Nokia (?) has a phone/Rex combo. Why carry more than one device if you
don't
> really have to?
>
> > I know it isn't "sexy" but I certainly don't have to be tethered to a PC
> > somewhere.
> >
> Actually, one possible future device that I might give up my LX for would
tether
> me to my desktop computer even more: an LX-size pocket client device that
makes
> a high-speed cellular connection to your PC server, running something like PC
> Anywhere. All files on your hard drive would be accessible to you, anywhere
you
> go, and all applications could be run remotely too. You'd never have to
back-up,
> or sync, or worry about what to take with you and what to leave behind.
>
> Rich investors please contact me at the above address. ;-)
>
> Bruce in Toronto
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From:         Larry Zimmerman 
Subject:      Re: Handspring Visor)

That last line about an "inferior design and having to adapt to a
machine..." caught me.  What is a command line interface with keyboard
input if not a request for the user to adapt to the machine?  What
exactly would a natural interface be?  I'm not sure there could be a
settled argument on that issue but I'm pretty near positive that the
HP200lx does not represent a Natural Interface any more or less than the
PalmOS's Graffiti.

I would suggest that Graffiti was a smart design solution.  It is much
simpler and less resource demanding for the OS/hardware to read 80
"pre-packaged" characters than burn up resources getting a machine to
read any of the myriad combinations a user may throw at it.  Graffiti is
also hardly a steep learning curve.  I'd mastered the full alphabet,
numerals and punctuation in 5 minutes.  I am as fast with it after a
week's use as I am with the thumb-keyboard of the HP200lx.

They are two different machines with completely different design goals.
Zealots aside, there is a lot to like in both.  If I could only have one,
it would be the 200lx but that is not a choice I have to make thankfully
- I just wished I'd ignored the Palm-bashing and purchased one sooner.

Larry Zimmerman


On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:06:17 -0800 Fryday  writes:
>I guess I'm still biased against the palmpilot. With all the computing
>power
>these little machines can handle, we still need to learn a script that
>the
>machine recognizes. Well probably not unlike learning how to type, but
>to me,
>one way or the other, it's a perfect example of both lowering people's
>expectations so they are happy with an inferior design and having to
>adapt to a
>machine rather than the other way around.

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Larry Zimmerman wrote:

> That last line about an "inferior design and having to adapt to a
> machine..." caught me.  What is a command line interface with keyboard
> input if not a request for the user to adapt to the machine?  What
> exactly would a natural interface be?  I'm not sure there could be a
> settled argument on that issue but I'm pretty near positive that the
> HP200lx does not represent a Natural Interface any more or less than
> the PalmOS's Graffiti.

I'd say it represents a more natural interface in that the letters on the
keyboard are real and not "code" like Graffiti is.  Not that Graffiti is
bad; I like it far and above any other handwriting input system, but it
does require the user to learn some strange strokes, whereas a system with
a keyboard presents the user with symbols they've already learned
(presumably ... or the whole argument is moot anyway ).

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:03:39 -0800, David Sargeant  =
wrote:

> I'd say it represents a more natural interface in that the letters on =
the
> keyboard are real and not "code" like Graffiti is.  Not that Graffiti =
is
> bad; I like it far and above any other handwriting input system, but it
> does require the user to learn some strange strokes, whereas a system =
with
> a keyboard presents the user with symbols they've already learned
> (presumably ... or the whole argument is moot anyway ).

On my Newtons I was pretty darn quick with the code and bet that I could
write just as fast with it as I can type on my LX and I'm pretty swift =
with
the LX keyboard.

Jeff

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Yep, I could see this one coming.

By "inferior design", I'm in no way implying that the LX is better (a common
fallacy, just like when I tell my GF I'm a good driver and she replies "so you
think i'm a *bad* driver?". Not quite).

Here's the point: the LX is old, the Palmpilot is new. I don't believe the
design (albeit different with different goals in mind) has much improved overall
between the two machines. WinCE is another example of not quite stepping forward
and perhaps stepping backward to *eventually* move ahead. Basically, the WinCE
out of the box is mostly using the pen for tapping -- hardly an improvement, but
I'm preaching to the choir, I know.

The Newton Messagepad, even if a tad on the big side, was definitely getting
somewhere design-wise. The first one was cute but quirky, but I'm guessing the
300 was getting pretty good with handwriting recognition and a bunch of other
features. (anyone to confirm?). The palmpilot certainly didn't improve on that.
I believe what improved was the marketing aspect (and the size/price).

And when I say design, I'm strictly talking about usability. The new machines
*might* be better from the hardware/software design perspective, but no better
as far as usability is concerned, IMHO.

Bottom line, I don't believe we've moved much ahead as far as usability,
otherwise we wouldn't be here rehashing the fact that the HP PIMS have no real
competition and that the LX is the best compromise we have so far.

Now when a unit comes with better software, true handwriting recognition,
backlight, and long battery hours and allow me to dig into it like a car, that
will be my next machine.

Anyone to prove me wrong is welcome: I've been keeping an eye on better
technology, but haven't seen anything yet...

Philippe


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> That last line about an "inferior design and having to adapt to a
> machine..." caught me.  What is a command line interface with keyboard
> input if not a request for the user to adapt to the machine?  What
> exactly would a natural interface be?  I'm not sure there could be a
> settled argument on that issue but I'm pretty near positive that the
> HP200lx does not represent a Natural Interface any more or less than the
> PalmOS's Graffiti.
>
> I would suggest that Graffiti was a smart design solution.  It is much
> simpler and less resource demanding for the OS/hardware to read 80
> "pre-packaged" characters than burn up resources getting a machine to
> read any of the myriad combinations a user may throw at it.  Graffiti is
> also hardly a steep learning curve.  I'd mastered the full alphabet,
> numerals and punctuation in 5 minutes.  I am as fast with it after a
> week's use as I am with the thumb-keyboard of the HP200lx.
>
> They are two different machines with completely different design goals.
> Zealots aside, there is a lot to like in both.  If I could only have one,
> it would be the 200lx but that is not a choice I have to make thankfully
> - I just wished I'd ignored the Palm-bashing and purchased one sooner.
>
> Larry Zimmerman
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2000 11:06:17 -0800 Fryday  writes:
> >I guess I'm still biased against the palmpilot. With all the computing
> >power
> >these little machines can handle, we still need to learn a script that
> >the
> >machine recognizes. Well probably not unlike learning how to type, but
> >to me,
> >one way or the other, it's a perfect example of both lowering people's
> >expectations so they are happy with an inferior design and having to
> >adapt to a
> >machine rather than the other way around.
>
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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:35:26 -0500
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Hi Martin,

Martin Bergvill wrote:
> I finally got my Nokia 7110.. It works very well with my Hplx for mail
> and news.

Congratulations! How ling did you wait for it? :-)

Do you use IR to connect the 7110 to the HPLX? Does it work without
problems?? 8-)

GTX
daniel

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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, David Sargeant wrote:

> As I recall, with NETX, the first network drive is the drive letter AFTER
> your lastdrive setting.  Try going to drive K: and logging in from there.

Bingo--thanks David!  That was exactly the situation.

I'm can now log in, access files on the server, and get
past the firewall with lxftp, lxmta, and lxping.  For some
reason lxtelnet balks when I try run it.  Any ideas?

Ted

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There used to be a Glimpse search engine for the HPLX-L
archives. Why is it not working any longer?

It is a bit frustrating to rememeber something being asked
in the list, but not being able to find the article again.

Keep up with the excelent list!

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Andrew King writes:
> Daniel
> I have been trying to get Laplink remote working from my WIN 95 machine to
> my 200LX and my Omnibook 425. I had just about given up on it since
> travelling software says it won't work.
> It sounds like you have found a way to make it works with WIN95.
> Perhaps you could give us the setup procedure?

I have found that, even if you do get LLRA working under Win95, it makes win95
runso slowly that it is impossible to use. HOWVER I do use LLRA in a DOS
box quite often & it works quite fine. (even though there are bugs in the
palmtop side of it which makes me do a hard reset after every use - just to
be sure!)

In order to use LLRA in a DOS box yo write a batch file (which I'll call
llra1.bat) which has the command:

command.com /k llraw.bat

where llraw.bat is the batch file which starts up LLRA.
Now create a shortcut to the first batch file (llra1.bat) and set the advanced
property which prevents the program from detecting windows. That's it!
When you run it you can connect and anything inside the Dos box will see
your palmtop's drives as extra drives.

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> Seems like the same cretin that Al just threw off the list hasn't
> figured things out YET...

How did he get on the list?

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Questor Jones wrote:
> Is HP ever planning to come out with a real upgrade
> from the 200LX (besides the 300/600 series)?

No.  The 200LX has been completely abandoned by HP.
Production ceased Nov 1999.

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My 2 cents and a question...

I love both my OLD 100LX and my 200LX Ýuse the 100LX as a back-up¨. When I
had to use the 100LX for the holidays, etc. because I'd prepared the 200LX
for shipping Ýthen didn't get to it 'til later¨ I spent about a month "1-MB
100LX-ing" it instead of "DS 64MB 200LXing it" and I thought I'd share my
observations (all in all pretty positive).

OK The question(s) first: IS there an appreciable difference in the 100LX
and 200LX phonebook data structure?

They're supposed to be the same, right?

I finally ran Garlic on my phone-book Ýit had some troubles that Curtis'
programs pointed out¨ and the file ran fine on the 100LX; when I copied the
file to the 200LX, it couldn't open the file ÝI eventually tried moving the
.env file too¨. Anyway, I ran garlic on a file that I knew I'd removed the
password from (that's important, no?) and opened it on the 200LX, it took a
long time to open at first but filesize increased Ýsomething like from 136K
to 141K¨ and *then* it ran normally, opening fast, etc. Ýit stayed at the
136-ish K size on the 100LX and opened OK from the start on the 100LX¨.

Does the 200LX need some sort of index I don't know about?

Ýtotally stock fields on both -- that's one thing I haven't modified; I
wanted to leave the phone dBase at the default structure in case I needed
help!¨

OK, onto the +/- of returning to my 100LX roots for a month:

   --On the Plus Side--

 o Initially (on switching) I liked my 100LX screen *BETTER* than my 200LX!
 o I put Super Software Carousel on a CF card which SLOWS IT DOWN Ýas far as
task switching goes¨ to a point that might drive you nuts; but I was
thrilled to have the capability in my "old" trusty 100LX Ýhence, still a
plus¨.
 o Had to go to an external 28.8 modem and was also thrilled at the increase
in Post/LX's performance (in downloads).
 o Battery life seemed incredible ÝI'd forgotten how long a pair of standard
AA's could go (*I* was on the go more, and maybe a little less dep. on the
LX for info.)¨.
 o Many folks from this list gave me help and support: Mack Ýat Times2 Tech¨
was ESPECIALLY helpful, as I had to tinker w/ more CF card than my 100LX
could handle (address).
 o I increased my back-up schedule and decreased the number of times I put
key info in one place w/o backing it up Ýa habit I should stick with!¨.

   --On the "Down" side--
 o I did miss the "data card" view in phonebook.
 o The 100LX really had troubles w/ my CF card .... I take full blame here,
because I was trying to get it to talk to an 80 MB, USB-enabled card Ýit's
SUPPOSED to be "just like any other CF card" but the LX didn't think so!
BTW, the 200LX "sees" and uses this card w/ no troubles¨. It got to the
point where I had to reboot, whenever I wanted to see (use) the A: drive
(YUCK!).
 o The 100LX still hasn't forgiven me for the drink of coffee I gave it in
JAN '96 (the keys make an odd noise when I press them and make you THINK
they're going to stick; BUT they don't).

Any thoughts?

Sorry to type so much; I'll just sign this,

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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:46:20 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" 
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Subject:      Re: FLUFF:  (OT) Handspring Visor

Hi all,

On a personal note: Mine's gone to a "fatal error" and refuses to be
consoled Ýresets to boot to another fatal error¨.  And this is w/ less than
about 2 weeks' use!

Even w/ a "hard" reset, pulling the batteries or threatening it, I can't
make it work and there's no one on the phone; nor is there a listserve to
help me.....

On the flipside all the info is still in Outlook on my PC and it was a good
way to synch and carry lots of THAT data around ÝOutlook at work hasn't
replaced my 200LX for phone/contact info *AND* for some reason I can't
import all my LX Phone.pdb into Outlook .... My *main* phone/info repository
remains my LX; so I just printed three weeks of my schedule and will ensure
the appointments are on my paper day planner and in my LX :-)  ¨.

I'm waiting for an email w/ instructions for repair/return -- Handspring's
tech-support voice mail *can* dump you into the sales lines again (it did it
to me -- twice . So take my
opinions there w/ a grain of salt ... now that you mention it, I haven't
powered them up for awhile ..... 'scuse me for a bit, while I go
tinker....¨.

Is there a list-based interest in hearing much about the Visor Ýor my trials
and tribulations w/ it?¨ I've already agreed to give someone some off-list
reviews, because we both think it would be politer to the LX list and LX
list-folk....  I only tossed in this note because 1) there are a few Visor
notes in the current banter AND mine broke after a hand-full of days Ýan
IMPORTANT "warning" to the other gadget affectionados on the list!¨.

Thanks for tolerance ;-)  <-- that would be "TFT," is that taken in the
emoticons and acronyms yet?

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I guess we'll see how the Visor turns out - I was burned by buying a
WinCE 1.0 device so if the Palm doesn't work out, or I decide I don't
need it, I know I won't have any trouble getting rid of it.  (I'm not
considering getting rid of my faithful 100lx.)

What does bug me is needing Win95 or better for the connection
software.  My LX goes quite nicely with Transfile on a Win 3.1 386
laptop.  And the Visor does not yet have a serial modem cable. :-(  -
although tech support says one is coming .

What is nice is that as much as I love using my LX for reading text
files, the palm has a backlight built-in and the $179.00 price tag
makes it competitive with an LX upgrade.

To me the perfect system would be if the LX and the Palm would talk
to each other.  Are there any IrDA experts out there?

Terry
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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:14:43 -0500
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What is the easiest way to transfer my HP200LX  phonebook database to my
new Palm V?
Thanks,  John

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:49:54 +1100
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At 09:14 PM 21/01/00 -0500, you wrote:
>What is the easiest way to transfer my HP200LX  phonebook database to my
>new Palm V?
>Thanks,  John

Hi John

I used the Outlook convertor from HPLX to outlook then the palmOS from
outlook to Palm.

Outlook conv is on the super site.
Palm software came with the Palm V

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I used the lx2pilot.zip from Super to transfer stuff from my
hp 200lx to my wife's palm pilot.
JChesbrough wrote:
>
> What is the easiest way to transfer my HP200LX  phonebook database to my
> new Palm V?
> Thanks,  John
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Anybody get the semicolon (;) key to work on the XACT series of calculators
available from the S.U.P.E.R. site? These calcs use the computer's shift
keys to represent the calculator's shift keys, so trying to hit shift-;
doesn't work too well.
Other than that, these programs work great.

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Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>Plug in the DC adapter of the palmtop (to not drain the backup battery
>during the following process), open the main battery cover and remove the
>batteries.
>
>Do you see a little white part that looks like a screw? It should hold
>the cylindrical screen 'tube' in place. Is it loose? If yes, try to fix
>it.

Since my palmtop was broken in exactly the way Domingo described his,
I started with this advice and pretty quickly saw the problem. With
the battery taken out, I could see the two little tabs that hold the
cylindrical hinge cover on its left side had popped out. I couldn't
pop it in from the top alone, but with the battery out I pressed
firmly with my thumb on the hinge cover, and my finger inside the
battery compartment (on top of the metal strip), and it snapped back
into place.

thanks!

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              Questor Jones 
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Ray,  Interesting post...I have a few questions as
well:

1) I plan to purchase a 40MB or so card for my 100LX
and I was wondering if there will be a problem running
it?  I plan to make sure of the voltage and amperage
draw (5v and less than 150maH), but beyond that are
there other issues I should be concerned with?  (By
the way, I am talking 40MB or so uncompressed size and
I don't plan to compress it).

2) This one isn't a question, but I wanted to let you
know that I seem to have the same problem with my
keyboard.  It seems that I may have gotten something
on a couple of keys and they are making a sort of
clicky noise when I press them (I don't even have to
press them all the way down).  I saw on the great HPLX
site that there is a section on hacking that describes
disassembling the units in detail.  I *may* perhaps
disassemble mine to get in there so I can clean it up.
(Probably use alcohol and a Q-tip...if anyone thinks
this is not the stuff to use, please let me know.)

Here is the link to the dissassembly site (not for the
timid):
http://www.hplx.net/hardware.apa.big.html

Questor.

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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 21:57:55 -0800
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              Questor Jones 
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Russ,

I knew the 200LX was discontinued, I was more
wondering if there is a palmtop in the works that
would be a substitute/upgrade for the 200LX...

Something other than the lame 300/600 series palmtops
that run the relatively useless CE stuff.  (Something
that runs a form of DOS).

I am sure the answer is probably No, but I was hoping
that HP was smart enough to realize that the hit upon
an amazingly powerful ad popular unit in the 100/200LX
and would expand upon it's popularity instead of going
the wrong way with thier 300/600LX organizer
look-a-likes.

I have had my 100LX now for about 7 years now and have
never found another unit (besides the 200LX) that even
remotely compared to it in flexibility and
functionality.

Questor

--- Russel Brooks  wrote:
> Questor Jones wrote:
> > Is HP ever planning to come out with a real
> upgrade
> > from the 200LX (besides the 300/600 series)?
>
> No.  The 200LX has been completely abandoned by HP.
> Production ceased Nov 1999.
>
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              Bob Meyer 
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Subject:      Re: Word 6 for DOS. Was: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 16 Jan 2000 to 17
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Looking at my Word 97 "Save As" file types, it looks like DOS Word 6 is
in a class all its own. Word 6 with TTF would allow graphics (rastor)
fonts on any printer.

I recall trying DOS Word 6.0 on my 8MHz IBM AT. Was a tad slow but did
show on my EGA monitor and print on my Epson FX85 TTF fonts.

Word Perfects seems to hold compatiblility across versions longer than
Microsoft.

Bob

dd diaz wrote:

> Would that make it more directly compatible with Word for
> Windows?
>
> Domingo
>
> Word 6.0 will handle TrueType fonts.
>
> Bob
>
> dd diaz wrote:
>
> > Hi.  Anyone knows why Microsoft is giving away Word  5.5 and
> > not Word 6 for DOS? I see that all the time on Ebay.
> What's the difference?
>

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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:01:34 -0800
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:

> I knew the 200LX was discontinued, I was more wondering if there is a
> palmtop in the works that would be a substitute/upgrade for the
> 200LX...

http://www.morphyone.com

A users' group in Japan is supposed to be creating this spiffy little
device.  It's the only thing that could reasonably be considered a
successor to the 200LX, but still has drawbacks ... a smaller screen, for
one, and still CGA.  OTOH, it will play MP3s and run Windows 95 or
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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:05:14 -0800
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There is always this repair service (I have never used
it):

http://www.palmtoppaper.com/wefix.htm


--- Quinton Jones Jr  wrote:
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> From: frayn@home.com (Perry Frayn)
> Subject: Hp 200 LX Speaker problem
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 04:03:43 GMT
>
> I'm a lucky guy and own a real palmtop.  HP200LX
>
> I have a problem with the speaker not working.  If I
> push with light pressure,
> roughly on the bottom of the case in the center the
> speaker will work.
>
> I've had the unit apart a few times trying to figure
> out what the problems is.
> The point at where I am pushing is right above the
> two little spring contacts
> for the speaker. I've tried stretching the springs
> just a little to see if
> that will make up for the pushing.  Tightening the
> case screws in different
> patterns. Everything I could think of. Is there a
> trick I'm missing here. I
> only took the case apart to solve this problem. (The
> problem was not self
> induced.)
>
> I'm starting to think the case has a slight warp in
> it. Can a new bottom of
> this case still be obtained?  Where?
>
> Anyone else have this problem.
>
> regards , Perry Frayn
>
>
>
>
> --- end of forwarded message ---
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...
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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:10:18 -0800
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What exactly is so great about software carousel?

I read the description that it comes with lots of
games and stuff, but I have always found installing a
(well written) game incredibly easy on the palmtop.

Also, I get the feeling that the games/utilities run
like the built-in apps, in that they task switch so
you can use more than one at a time (like the built-in
apps).  But I could have sworn I have seen utilities
that allow you to do this already.

So my question is:  What am I missing?   It seems that
people love software carousel, so I assume it has more
features than the two described above.

Questor

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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:15:44 -0800
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Subject:      Re: 100/200LX Software Carousel.
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:

> What exactly is so great about software carousel? I read the
> description that it comes with lots of games and stuff, but I have
> always found installing a (well written) game incredibly easy on the
> palmtop.

You're confusing "Software Carousel" with "Super Software Carousel."
Software Carousel is the premier task-switcher for the palmtop, and
includes no games or anything other than the task switcher itself.  It's
basically like cramming up to twelve palmtops into one.  No other
task switcher is worth much on the 200LX except perhaps the one
DOSShell from DOS 5.0 includes, and that one still lacks many of the
custom palmtop features of Software Carousel.

SUPER Software Carousel is the bundle of Software Carousel and all the
other applications, and that's what you're thinking of.

As a new palmtop user, you should probably read the FAQs available at
http://www.hplx.net.  They include answers to many of the questions you've
posted.  They aren't perfect, though, and are in the process of being
revised to be much more comprehensive and up-to-date sources of
information for today's DOS palmtoppers.

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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:19:03 -0800
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Subject:      Re: 100LX  vs. 200LX
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Is backlighting available yet?

Also, I have had mine (100lx) for a long time and I
know that there were alot of them around a while ago
and they still seem very popular.  But with the 200LX
discontinued, I was curious how big the installed base
was as a gauge to determine the longevity of support
and 3rd party upgrades.

Any info (or educated guessing) on the above would be
appreciated.

Questor

--- David Sargeant  wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:
>
> > So I could never understand why the 200LX has so
> many upgrade options
> > (like 32MB etc) and the 100LX only seems to be
> upgradable to
> > double-speed? (which to me is liking multiplying
> by 0 :)
>
> The 200LX has a spot on the motherboard for a memory
> module, and the 100LX
> doesn't.  Thus, making a memory upgrade is possible
> for the 200LX, but the
> 100LX wasn't designed with it in mind, so no luck.
> If it was
> cost-effective to do a 100LX memory upgrade, you can
> believe it would have
> been done by now.  It's not, for technical reasons,
> not prejudice against
> the 100LX.
>
> Most other upgrades, like the backlight, the
> external speaker jack, and
> the speed upgrade will work with the 100LX just
> fine.
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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:19:25 -0800
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:

> Is backlighting available yet?

Not just yet.  However, beta testing is anticipated to start next week, at
long last, and if the response is positive, we're all ready to start.

> Also, I have had mine (100lx) for a long time and I know that there
> were alot of them around a while ago and they still seem very popular.
> But with the 200LX discontinued, I was curious how big the installed
> base was as a gauge to determine the longevity of support and 3rd
> party upgrades.

Estimates range from half a million to five million, but only Avi knows
the truth, and he ain't talking.    There are a LOT of them in Japan,
though.

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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:21:55 -0800
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Yeah, I read about that, but I also read that it is
not going to be available overseas, which I assume
means here.

Then again, perhaps since the 200LX is discontinued,
some 3rd party group will take a crack at builing it
here since it is open design.


--- David Sargeant  wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:
>
> > I knew the 200LX was discontinued, I was more
> wondering if there is a
> > palmtop in the works that would be a
> substitute/upgrade for the
> > 200LX...
>
> http://www.morphyone.com
>
> A users' group in Japan is supposed to be creating
> this spiffy little
> device.  It's the only thing that could reasonably
> be considered a
> successor to the 200LX, but still has drawbacks ...
> a smaller screen, for
> one, and still CGA.  OTOH, it will play MP3s and run
> Windows 95 or
> Linux...
>
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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:22:45 -0800
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:

> Yeah, I read about that, but I also read that it is not going to be
> available overseas, which I assume means here.

If not, I'm sure somebody on the list will be enterprising enough to go to
Japan and bring back a suitcase full of them.  

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Date:         Fri, 21 Jan 2000 22:35:21 -0800
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I did a quick scan of the FAQ as you suggested.  It
seems that it is pretty much as I suspected, it
primarily seems to allow the abilty to task switch
between DOS-based programs like those built-in apps
(not too mention handling memory constaints
fantastically).

Although it seems like a great program, it would not
be worth it to me as I pretty much only run one DOS
app at a time.  I guess I am not much of a power user.

It's good to know it's there if I ever need it though.


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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 02:29:29 -0500
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              hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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Tomas Moberg wrote:
> How does on do to get a batch file that shows me a
> menue of all theese
> .bat files to choose from so that I only have to run
> one bat file for everything.

Check out PWRMENU.EXE availlable on SUPER. It's a program launcher with
just 3 kByte.

HP Staber/Salzburg

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:43:16 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg 
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As it is not (legaly)possible to develop an ICQ clone for our hp to be
used under WWW/LX I have found another way to connect to ICQ.
I use TELNET/LX to my Unix account and there I run MICQ for UNIX.
WWW/LX is my choice so I would like to use it for all my connections.

This process would be simpler if it would be possible to run a script
that logs in to my account and starts MICQ.

Wile am on it:
Scroling back lets say 100 lines or so would be helpful. With F7 You have =
to open a file to se what hapened, wich is OK but not very smooth.
And I was quite impressed with LXTELNET:s ability to do multiple
connections.

so long.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:36:10 -0500
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Bruce in Toronto wrote:

> Actually, one possible future device that I might give up my LX for =
would tether > me to my desktop computer even more: an LX-size pocket =
client device that makes> a high-speed cellular connection to your PC =
server, running something like PC
> Anywhere. All files on your hard drive would be accessible to you, =
anywhere you > go, and all applications could be run remotely too. You'd =
never have to back-up,
> or sync, or worry about what to take with you and what to leave behind. =
>
> Rich investors please contact me at the above address. ;-)

Well,if not all you mentioned above so atleast some of it ought to be =
possible with BLUETOOTH as I understand it atleast.

Then you should be able to phone home to a device that trough radiowaves =
connect to your PC and start to transfer.

When at home you ofcourse just connect through BLUETOOTH.

Here was a thread about BLUETOOTH a while ago and a guy named Ian Gifford =
sent in a very thorugh explanation of BLUETOOTH,he said however that he =
didn't think a PCMCIA card would be viable but he never explained why it =
shouldn't,so therefore I ask you now Ian if you read this:why not?

And,Bruce,if you missed the BLUETOOTH thread I have all the emails and =
could forward them to you.

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 08:49:06 -0500
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              Martin Bergvill 
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Subject:      Re: Will sms.scr only transfer 5 messages from 7110->Hplx?
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Daniel Hertrich  wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> Martin Bergvill wrote:
> > I finally got my Nokia 7110.. It works very well with my Hplx for mail
> > and news.
>
> Congratulations! How ling did you wait for it? :-)

Hmm.. I ordered in late october, paid the phone(s) in the middle of
november and 3 of the 5 phones I ordered was delivered now on
thursday.. For some time I wondered if I had got screwed by the seller,
but they did deliver at last.

> Do you use IR to connect the 7110 to the HPLX? Does it work without
> problems?? 8-)

Yes it works without problems. I have set the speed to 38400. I think I
get some message on the top of the screen from time to time.. I can not
remember what it was. But it had something to do with too high speed or
something.

I have used the Hplx/7110 combo to upload/download mail and news. The
speed is okey for ordinary mail, but it is expencive to use. It's nice
to be able to send email wherever you are though.

I have also used Robot/Lx and the smsscript. This also works. But for
some reason I can not transfer more than all messages -1. I will try to
get my hand on a AT command pdf for the 7110 and have a look at the
script to see if I can do anything with it myself. The phone.scr does
not work.

Regarding the phone.scr I am not sure that this can work since the 7110
can store 5 numbers for each name + some more info..will have to look
into this.. It would be nice to be able to have a phonemanaging
software on the Hplx :-))

I am sorry to say that this phones blows your S25 away :-)). Well I
used the S25 for one weekend, but I think this Nokia has a much nicer
menu, and also a lot of other things. (But hey I am a Nokia man or else
I would not have waited for It so long :-))

If you want me to do any tests to see how the 7110 performs regarding
the rf noise problem please feel free to let me know.. Maybe the 7110
induces less rf noise..I do not know..

Bye

--
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 08:49:38 -0500
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Helmuth  wrote:

> Martin,
>
> > also have a german newsserver which works as the hplxserver with
> > username/password
>
> Oh, what is the address?

It is:

NEWS.CIS.DFN.DE

I think this was the webaddress too..

You have to send them a mail and ask for a username and password. Now I
can use the same server whatever ethernet I am connected too. I am no
longer restricted to my isp's newsserver.

The newsservers speed is okey I think..


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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 08:49:51 -0500
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Tomas Moberg  wrote:

> Hi.
> I have a lot of batch files that I run from time to time.

Me too..

> Batch files that makes backups, chkdsk all drives, configures my Accton
> and fires up www/lx with dhcp etc etc

Hmm you must have been lurking around inside my hp.. I do these things
too with batchfiles....

> How does on do to get a batch file that shows me a menue of all theese
> .bat files to choose from so that I only have to run one bat file for
> everything.

You could have a look at 200 Y.A.P.L (or something like that) on Super.
There you can make your own menu withe the programs/batchfiles you
want.

I had this solution before I started to use Smmlx. I have now set up a
lot of batchfiles like you there instead of in the Applicationmanager.

I have several folders too. One for "System" batch files and some for
dosprograms/games. The Smmlx chrashes from time to timme when I edit a
icon, but I can live with that. Check it out..

What does your batchfiles do?

I have a batchfile which I called "Night" which rejams both the
jamdrives I have on C and on A. It also runs Dbcheck on my
databases/notebooks/appointmentbook. This is the only thing that needs
me to interact. Is there anyway to automate this so that is proccedes to
Lxbackup only if Dbcheck report no errors?

Bye..

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 07:56:57 -0600
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              Barry Marks 
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> * The 200LX's screen is *much* easier to read - it
> has a better
> contrast.

I have a 100lx and 3 200lx's. (I'm ready for the future :).  In my case the
100lx has easilly the best screen.  One of the 200lx's has a fairly poor
screen.  The other 2 are pretty good.  The 100 is considerably better.

I also have a 1 meg 95 lx which is as good as the 100lx.  The screen was
great.  But the best screen of all was on the 512k 95lx which was my first
palmtop.  My nephew has been using it for years.  It's bright and lots of
contrast and easy to read.

I'm convinced that it's all the luck of the draw.  Which day did they have a
good run?  Which were made the morning after their Christmas party?

Barry

> * The 200LX's screen is *much* easier to read - it
> has a better
> contrast.

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 08:50:58 -0600
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              Ted Brown 
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From:         Ted Brown 
Subject:      Software Carousel/Hisword
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I recently purchased Software Carousel and am trying to install Hisword =
on a 32m DS palmtop.  Hisword works fine if I exit Sys.Mgr and run it =
from DOS.     However, from the SysMgr  Hisword icon, the screen goes =
blank for a moment and then returns with no error message.  Other than =
"read the directions ! " (which I have done ) does anyone have any ideas =
?

Thanks
Ted Brown
brown@worldnetla.net


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I recently purchased Software =
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if I=20
exit Sys.Mgr and run it from DOS.     However, from =
the=20
SysMgr  Hisword icon, the screen goes blank for a moment and then =
returns=20
with no error message.  Other than "read the directions ! =
"=20
(which I have done ) does anyone have any ideas ?


 


Thanks


Ted Brown


brown@worldnetla.net

 


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No messages from the HPLX-L this morning...are we 'on' here?

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 11:04:28 -0500
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              Russel Brooks 
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From:         Russel Brooks 
Subject:      Re: Fwd: Hp 200 LX Speaker problem
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> From: frayn@home.com (Perry Frayn)
> I have a problem with the speaker not working.  If I push with light
> pressure,
> roughly on the bottom of the case in the center the speaker will work.

Well to start with the LX doesn't have a "speaker".  It has a piezo(sp?)
electric transducer; a solid state thingie that does almost the same
thing.  If you don't have a busted wire or a bad connection the
transducer itself may me bad.

Maybe it's time for Thadeus repair?

cheers...Russ

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:34:35 -0600
Reply-To:     Jack LaRosa 
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From:         Jack LaRosa 
Subject:      Scott's disks (another update)
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Hello HPLX'rs,

In a previous note I mentioned I had purchased one of Scott Moore's
20M pcmcia cards and that I had trouble with running the Collins
dictionary when other files were loaded after the dictionary. Many of
you offered suggestions which unfortunately didn't work. I e-mailed
Scott and requested we swap my card with another of his and he agreed.
The replacement card arrived and is exactly the same type as
the original, only this one works just fine. I have loaded the Collins
dictionary on to it followed by a large amount (several megs) of
backup files and the dictionary continues to function flawlessly.

I just wanted to be fair to Scott and let the group know that
everything worked out to my satisfaction.

Best regards,
 Jack                          mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 21:11:12 +0000
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Robert Kawaratani 
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From:         Robert Kawaratani 
Subject:      Re: For Sale: Random House Websters Electronic Dictionary &
              Thesaurus College...
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The screens are virtually identical and judging from David Sargeant's review
of the Collins, the engines work the same. So you can draw your own
conclusions. I like the Random House Websters but I'm pretty sure that I'd
like the Collins as well. The RHW was the favorite of translators in Japan
10 years ago.

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>From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" 
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject: Re: For Sale: Random House Websters Electronic Dictionary & Thesaurus
College...
>Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:50:01 EST
>

> Has anyone compared this to the Collens Dictionary?
>
> Lynn M. Cavendish
>
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 11:52:42 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise 
Subject:      Re: Script in TELNET/LX?

Tomas Moberg writes:
>
> This process would be simpler if it would be possible to run a script
> that logs in to my account and starts MICQ.

You should be able to do this with DataComm, the built-in
terminal program called by Ctrl-Quicken.  It will run
scripts.

Ted

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:16:56 -0800
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              smoore 
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I  have (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are
in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
$65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only!  I also have (4)

20 Meg name brand Sandisks for sale. I sell (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for
$40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. and I sell (2) 20 Meg
Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping and You can send payment  to my
address at:


Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back  the  same day I receive your payment and let you
know
that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
been really  great.   Thanks alot!    Scott

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:30:37 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff 
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From:         Mike Wagstaff 
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On 22 Jan 2000 05:51:24 -0800, Martin Bergvill  wrote:

> > Do you use IR to connect the 7110 to the HPLX? Does it work without
> > problems?? 8-)
>
> Yes it works without problems. I have set the speed to 38400. I think I
> get some message on the top of the screen from time to time.. I can not
> remember what it was. But it had something to do with too high speed or
> something.

I think that the top speed of the 7110 is only 14,400. But
that doesn't stop me being extremely jealous!

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 11:32:43 +0000
Reply-To:     melancon@microgear.net
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From:         Mike Melancon 
Subject:      Re: Y2K bug in FV.COM
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> Date:          Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:46:37 +0000
> From:          Stefan Peichl 
> Subject:       Y2K bug in FV.COM
> To:            HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu

> Vernon Buerg's LIST comes with the plugin FV to view archives.
> If you press the 'v' key of LIST to view the content of a ZIP
> file, then every file, added after 1.1.2000 has a date of
> 1.1.80. This is only cosmetic, but also means, you can no
> longer control the content of a ZIP file using LIST with FV.
> My version of FV is 1.45. Any newer releases available?
>

There is a newer version (2.00) which corrects this.

found at:
ftp://24.5.222.247/fv200.ZIP

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:44:14 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Daniel Hertrich 
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From:         Daniel Hertrich 
Subject:      Re: Fwd: Hp 200 LX Speaker problem
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Hi Perry,

did you try to clean the contacts of the speaker on the motherboard
with alcohol? Maybe they are just a little bit oxydized.

Good luck
daniel

        Quinton Jones Jr wrote:
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> From: frayn@home.com (Perry Frayn)
> Subject: Hp 200 LX Speaker problem
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 04:03:43 GMT
>
> I'm a lucky guy and own a real palmtop.  HP200LX
>
> I have a problem with the speaker not working.  If I push with light
> pressure,
> roughly on the bottom of the case in the center the speaker will work.
>
> I've had the unit apart a few times trying to figure out what the problems
>  is.
> The point at where I am pushing is right above the two little spring
> contacts
> for the speaker. I've tried stretching the springs just a little to see
> if
> that will make up for the pushing.  Tightening the case screws in differen
> t
> patterns. Everything I could think of. Is there a trick I'm missing here.
> I
> only took the case apart to solve this problem. (The problem was not self
> induced.)
>
> I'm starting to think the case has a slight warp in it. Can a new bottom
> of
> this case still be obtained?  Where?
>
> Anyone else have this problem.
>
> regards , Perry Frayn
>
> --- end of forwarded message ---
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...
> HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net
>
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homepage:                  http://daniel.hplx.net
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 17:58:40 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" 
Subject:      Re: The hp EATS the batteries :)
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> Hi palmtoppers!
> I've bought a secon hand 8Mb DS Hp200lx some months ago.
> Now I've begun to use it every day and I've notived that
> the hp litterally EATS the batteries: I can get only 4

I may be wrong but I thought I recall that some of the early 8meg
upgrade chips had this problem.  Again, I'm not sure.  You might try
contracting someone who does such installations.

Good luck

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 12:17:37 -0600
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette 
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From:         Mack Baggette 
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Subject:      Re: The hp EATS the batteries :)
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>> Hi palmtoppers!
>> I've bought a secon hand 8Mb DS Hp200lx some months ago.
>> Now I've begun to use it every day and I've notived that
>> the hp litterally EATS the batteries: I can get only 4

> I may be wrong but I thought I recall that some of the early 8meg
> upgrade chips had this problem.  Again, I'm not sure.  You might try
> contracting someone who does such installations.

I am afraid this is incorrect. I have never had any such problem with
the upgrades themselves. It has always been a motherboard problem and
can occur regardless of having a memory upgrade or not. The best
solution other than sending it in for repair is to remove all
batteries including the backup battery for at least 24 hours and then
putting in all new batteries. It is best to backup the palmtop first,
though.

Cheers,
 Mack                            mailto:mack@times2tech.com

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 13:23:17 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Hal Goldstein 
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From:         Hal Goldstein 
Subject:      Re: 100LX  vs. 200LX
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<>

Actually, it will probably (hopefully) be another week or so (don't worry --
those beta testers who we have contacted, we'll let you know when you should
send your units to us).

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 11:51:35 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              "CHUN,TERRENCE UNGHOONG" 
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From:         "CHUN,TERRENCE UNGHOONG" 
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Perhaps we were spoiled by the holiday bounty on SUPER, but have there
been any SUPER updates in the past month?

-- Terry

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 11:54:40 -0800
Reply-To:     dcollins@trendx.com
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From:         Donald Collins 
Subject:      100LX  and 200LX upgrade

According to HP's TV comercials they are "re-inventing"
HP.  Maybe they will re-invent the HPLX.  :)

 -----Original Message-----
I knew the 200LX was discontinued, I was more
wondering if there is a palmtop in the works that
would be a substitute/upgrade for the 200LX...

Something other than the lame 300/600 series palmtops
that run the relatively useless CE stuff.  (Something
that runs a form of DOS).





Don.
Folsom, California

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 22:30:09 +0000
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From:         Chris Randle 
Subject:      Re: Help: reading CFC with a Libretto 100
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Hi Sergio,

I too use a 48MB Sandisk card with my 200LX and Librettos CT50
(Win 95) and CT110 (Win 98). I swap them back and forth with
gay abandon and no waits. The Librettos recognised the card
straight away, and it's never locked the 200. I always switch
the 200 off before removing or inserting the card.

i don't know enough about these things to suggest a remedy, but
at least you know it _should_ work.

Chris R.


On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Sergio V. Marra wrote:

> Sorry if this does not match the list subject; I'm trying to read with a
> Libretto 100 a 48Mb Sandisk CFC used with the 200LX, without success.
> If any of you has already done it, please get in touch with me to exchange
> info on the configuration.
>
> By the way I found that inserting the CFC in the 200 soon after having
> removed
> it from a pc may lock the 200 to the point it does not switch on at all.
> This may be due to some charge built up on the pins of the card.
> It is better to wait some time (one hour) before reintroducing the card in
> the 200.
>
> Regards
>
> Sergio
>
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:38:22 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              A Meshar 
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From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: Script in TELNET/LX?
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Tomas,

Tomas Moberg wrote:
> As it is not (legaly)possible to develop an ICQ clone for our hp to be
> used under WWW/LX I have found another way to connect to ICQ.
> I use TELNET/LX to my Unix account and there I run MICQ for UNIX.
> WWW/LX is my choice so I would like to use it for all my connections.

I pondered this in my mind. Why is it illegal to do ICQ
with WWW/LX Plus? I think from the perspective of WWW/LX
and D&A we will make the API available to someone
responsible who wishes to develop such a module. There will
be discussions, and we'll need to agree to various things,
but it is certainly possible, we have always offered such access
to responsible programmers.

I understood (maybe incorrectly?) that ICQ had some public
components? Is this correct? If so, then there seems to be
nothing illegal here.

In truth I do not know for usre, and have not researched
it. I am also disappointed with the response to IRC/LX
(Jeff never bought a license :-) ...) so I am not sure
spending a lot of time of this genre of programs is going
to be my choice of activity, but the door is open.

> This process would be simpler if it would be possible to run a script
> that logs in to my account and starts MICQ.

Robot/LX?

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:17:59 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Martin Bergvill 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Martin Bergvill 
Subject:      Re: Post/Lx screws the subjectline when I reply..
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Regarding norwegian characters in the subjectline:

Somebody told me this..(I have no idea if this is true or not):

The word "fe" (get) is coded by Post/lx as:

> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f=D5.

The character "e" is coded as "=D5".

Somebody told me that this is wrong. It is supposed to be"=E5".

Is this true?

They also supplied me with these links if somebody are interested:

> Ý1¨ http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1036.html
> Ý2¨ http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc822.html
> Ý3¨ http://www.chemie.fu-berlin.de/outerspace/netnews/son-of-1036.html
> Ý4¨ http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-usefor-article-02.txt
> Ý5¨ http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2045.html

--
Martin Bergvill Narvik, Norway
"This is probably the best button to press"
-From the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy




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"This is probably the best button to press"
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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:24:45 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Tom Hoover 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Tom Hoover 
Organization: HisWord.net -- my own little speedbump on the Information
              SuperHighway
Subject:      Re: Software Carousel/Hisword
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              brown@WORLDNETLA.NET on Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 08:50:58AM -0600
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On Sat, Jan 22, 2000 at 08:50:58AM -0600, Ted Brown wrote:
> I recently purchased Software Carousel and am trying to install Hisword on a 32m DS palmtop.  Hisword works fine if I exit Sys.Mgr and run it from DOS.     However, from the SysMgr  Hisword icon, the screen goes blank for a moment and then returns with no error message.  Other than "read the directions ! " (which I have done ) does anyone have any ideas ?

Since it will run from DOS, I'd guess that you're allocating insufficient
memory in your AppMgr setup.  Since you have SC, my recommendation is to just
set HisWord up in it's own workspace.  If you want to run it from SysMgr,
you'll need to give it ~300 kb of memory.

--
Tom Hoover N5NTM  - http://www.hisword.net/tom
    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
     ------- finger thoover@pobox.com for PGP key --------

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:40:23 -0800
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              Louis Di Fazio 
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From:         Louis Di Fazio 
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Does anyone know if there is any type of calculator program for the LX (LX
or DOS) that will calculate time? Please let me know.

  Thanks,

Louis Di Fazio

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:09:32 -0800
Reply-To:     patrickwest@uswest.net
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From:         Patrick West 
Subject:      Re: Palm V Transfer
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Folks,

If it isn't on super I don't know where I picked it up.  The
writer is
Jay Vaughan  In his readme file he
writes:
> This is a quick and dirty package prepared for USR Pilot users that want
> to export data from any of the HP series of palmtop computers (95LX, 100LX,
> and 200LX) to the Pilot.
>
> This package uses GDBIO (an HP Palmtop extraction program), and a set of
> AWK scripts to prepare the data for importing into the Pilot using the
> Pilot Desktop Import function.
>
> It's quick and dirty - this is not intended for anything other than one
> time use,

If whoever is doing Super updates these days wants me to I
can send them a copy.....

Terry Owen wrote:
>
> A search didn't turn up this program on Super.
>
> On 21 Jan 00 at 19:26, Patrick West wrote:
>
> > I used the lx2pilot.zip from Super to transfer stuff from my
> > hp 200lx to my wife's palm pilot.
> > JChesbrough wrote:
> > >
> > > What is the easiest way to transfer my HP200LX  phonebook database to my
> > > new Palm V?
> > > Thanks,  John
> > >
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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:32:59 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              John J Vanderstel 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         John J Vanderstel 
Subject:      FLUFF: Re: Handspring Visor

Hi Bruce,

>Actually, one possible future device that I might give up my LX for
would tether
>me to my desktop computer even more: an LX-size pocket client device
that makes
>a high-speed cellular connection to your PC server, running something
like PC
>Anywhere. All files on your hard drive would be accessible to you,
anywhere you
>go, and all applications could be run remotely too. You'd never have to
back-up,
>or sync, or worry about what to take with you and what to leave behind.
>
>Rich investors please contact me at the above address. ;-)

That's an interesting idea that I hadn't thought about for quite a while.

Those who have wireless phone access with their HP200LX might be able to
run an old DOS version of PCanywhere on both their desktop and palmtop to
do this with some DOS programs, already.  I guess it would depend upon
whether the LX could echo the remote desktop's screen adequately.

I used to use a remote laptop computer wired to the phone line to call my
DOS based BBS and gain remote control of the BBS computer. I was able to
run programs on my desktop computer and my desktop computer's screen was
echoed onto the laptop through the phone line. I was able to use of some
rather powerful applications through an underpowered remotely located
laptop computer in that way. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:35:00 -0500
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              lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Longden Loo 
Subject:      Re: Time Calculator
Comments: cc: louisthx@VEGAS.INFI.NET

   >Does anyone know if there is any type of calculator program for the
   >LX (LX or DOS) that will calculate time? Please let me know.
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 05:35:01 +0000

Depends on what you want to do, but I'd think 123 would suit your needs if
all you need is a simple way to find a given time plus or minus a specified
amount of hours, minutes or seconds.

The 123 @time function combined with the RangeFormatDateTime should make a
passable little time spreadsheet calculator.

As I said, it just depends on your exact needs.

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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 2000 10:01:01 +0100
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hello all,

i have a new version of quickview ready and a completely new program for
converting train schedule information into the built-in database format.

alas, the s.u.p.e.r. site, where i sent the files to make them available,
was last updated two months ago.

so, for the moment, if anybody is interested in one of the programs, drop=
me
a mail and i will send them along.

maybe you have a website to publish the files?

cheers
alan

> > Von: Alan Krempler 
> > An: 
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 07. J=E4nner 2000 17:17
> > Betreff: quickview & hconv - contributions for S.U.P.E.R.
> >
> >
> > > hello and a happy new year 2000!
> > >
> > > here are two contributions for the S.U.P.E.R. site:
> > >
> > > * quickv.zip: QuickView v1.3
> > > compact file viewer. new version fixes a few bugs, improves the text
> > search
> > > function, adds error messages and a COPY feature.
> > >
> > > * hconv.zip: HAFAS train schedule converter
> > > converts train schedule information from http://www.bahn.de to the
HP20=
> > 0LX
> > > database format.
> > > good for travelling in europe. german version only for the moment.
> > >
> > > happy computing
> > > alan
> > >
> >
> >
>

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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 2000 10:15:16 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg 
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> Tomas Moberg wrote:
> > As it is not (legaly)possible to develop an ICQ clone for our hp to =
be
> > used under WWW/LX I have found another way to connect to ICQ.

...

> I pondered this in my mind. Why is it illegal to do ICQ
> with WWW/LX Plus? I think from the perspective of WWW/LX

Here follows a part of my correspondance with the ICQ staff:

----------------------------------------
----------------------------------------
From: Contact 
To: "'Tomas Moberg'" 
Subject: RE: FW: ICQ
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:10:45 +0200

Dear Mr. Moberg,

Please be advised that ICQ does not authorize ICQ related software
development outside the ICQ Team.

Rafi Zauer
ICQ Business Development Team
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----------------------------------------


> Robot/LX?

Hmm.
How would a script for telneting from Post/lx to a Unix account look =
like?
I have not looked into ROBOT/LX at all.
I have only used it :->
Any suggestions from the list?


      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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I tried to start a open.exe session from the app manager with the line:
a:\open.exe c:\_dat\file.wk1

1-2-3 doesn't open the spreadsheet. I tried it with the line
a:\open.exe c:\_dat\file.wk1=A6
too, but it doesn't too.

What is wrong with me?

-goe-

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> > Martin,
> >
> > > also have a german newsserver which works as the hplxserver with > =
> > username/password
password. Now I > can use the same server whatever ethernet I am connected=
 too. I am no > longer restricted to my isp's newsserver.
>

But is there any significant differences to talk about concerning newsserv=
ers?


Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
>  It also runs Dbcheck on my
> databases/notebooks/appointmentbook. This is the only thing that needs
> me to interact. Is there anyway to automate this so that is proccedes to
> Lxbackup only if Dbcheck report no errors?

Your BAT file nneds to check the ERRORLEVEL after DBCHECK to see if any
errors were found.  Read the DBCHECK doc to see an example.

cheers... Russ

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> I recently purchased Software Carousel and am trying to i
> nstall Hisword on a 32m DS palmtop.  Hisword works fine
>  if I exit Sys.Mgr and run it from DOS.     How
> ever, from the SysMgr  Hisword icon, the screen goes bl
> ank for a moment and then returns with no error message

Don't try to run HisWord from &...More.  There probably won't be enough =
memory
available.  I think this is why to program "chokes" and won't start up.  =
Run it
in a seperate, DOS only, Software Carousel session.  I use a different =
Bible
program this way.  I swap to a DOS Sc session and run the Bible program. =
 The I
can swap back to System Manager without closing down the Bible.

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I have a corrupt password protected .GDB database. The corruption was
caused by a crash of one program, that made me press Ctrl+Shift+ON,
while the database was open.

The corruption is such that trying to open it with the database program
makes the HP crash, and requires a Ctrl+Shift+ON to restart.

Running dbcheck gives:
        File type: Database

        Error: Note field has illegal character (0)
        .
        1 db header, 1 card def
        1 categories, 15 fields defined
        1 view point defs, 2 view point tables
        16 smart clips, 0 lookup tables
        11 data records, 9 with notes
        Found records:      57     Garbage records:  11
        Error: Note field has illegal character 0 or 255
        5.GDB had errors.

I have recovered a backup some days old, but I am missing some
information.

Question: given the corrupt database file and the password, can I
recover the text of the database records? I could then just include it
by hand in my backup file.

Thanks in advance,
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Louis Di Fazio wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is any type of calculator program for the LX (LX
> or DOS) that will calculate time? Please let me know.

I've done a lot of time calculations in Rexx which runs on the LX.
Basically I translate dates and time into total seconds and then do
simple arithmetic on the numbers.

What do you need to do?

cheers... Russ

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Maybe you have a DOS session open? Maybe there is not enough memory to
run open?

I use it from the DOSLINE or COMMAND just like this:

        open file.wk1

(It searches automatically in c:\_dat)

Paulo

Stephan Goeldi wrote:
> =

> I tried to start a open.exe session from the app manager with the line:=

> a:\open.exe c:\_dat\file.wk1
> =

> 1-2-3 doesn't open the spreadsheet. I tried it with the line
> a:\open.exe c:\_dat\file.wk1=A6
> too, but it doesn't too.
> =

> What is wrong with me?
> =

> -goe-
> =

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The reason I tried to install it from SysMgr (where I had installed Hisword
before I got SC) is that I am intimidated by SC's installation!   I have
managed to create a new session (Ctrl+4) but it only leaves me at the DOS
prompt in a session named Hisword.  From there, if I try to run Hisword I
get 'cannot execute A:\Hisword\Hisword.exe.  Workarea 4 is alloted 350k
memory.


From: Tom Hoover 


>Since it will run from DOS, I'd guess that you're allocating insufficient
>memory in your AppMgr setup.  Since you have SC, my recommendation is to
just
>set HisWord up in it's own workspace.  If you want to run it from SysMgr,
>you'll need to give it ~300 kb of memory.

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Sun, 23 Jan 2000 09:54:08 -0500 (EST)

04h13m13s ago ...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> I tried to start a open.exe session from the app manager with the line:
> a:\open.exe c:\_dat\file.wk1
>
> 1-2-3 doesn't open the spreadsheet. I tried it with the line
> a:\open.exe c:\_dat\file.wk1=A6
> too, but it doesn't too.

Hmmm - the second one has what looks like a graphics character on the
end (I'm guessing it's meant to be the vertical bar? ÝShift \¨).  Don't
see anything wrong with the first one...

I don't know what method OPEN uses to start 1-2-3 and open the
worhsheet, but if it stuffs the key buffer, it may be running out of
room.  When I tried a variation of this from a DOS command line in XF,
it worked fine - but my 200LX is using KBUF128.SYS to provide a large
key buffer.  If C:_DAT is your lotus default directory, you might try
using something like:
a:\open.exe  file.wk1   or if a:\ is in the path:
open file.wk1


HTH

Peniel
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Doug - the biggest reason is that there aren't many people writing
new software for the LX.  (The few who are writing for the LX are
doing a good job against incredible odds.)  The Palm has the
active support and has caught the imagination of developers.

For example, folks routinely ask on this list if there is a PDF
reader for the LX.  Nope. Never has been and probably never will be -
but there is a company with a PDF reader in beta for the WinCE OS and
one in progress for the Palm.  Peanut Press - an online bookseller
distributes their reader in WinCE and Palm OS.  If I want to buy
their books, I can't use my LX or even my desktop to read them.

I have a very strong Luddite streak coupled with a weakness for the
newest gadgets.  Makes for some very interesting internal dialog. 
The LX appeals to the person whose first PC ran Dos 2.1 (no hard
drive) - the Visor appeals to the kid in me. (The "ain't it cool"
factor.)  I think there is room for both.

Terry

On 20 Jan 00 at 18:47, Doug Mc Vey wrote:

> Why are we all trying to find something to replace the 200LX.  Why
> not use this unit until infinity and keep Thaddeus in business and
> thriving on parts, etc. I looked at the other units also out of
> curisionty - seems the 200LX configuration just cannot be directly
> replaced.  People are still trying to find the old(18 year) 110
> units. I had one of those and it had one hell of a Lotus 1-2-3
> tutorial on it.  If it wasn't for the lead weight I would still lug
> that thing around.  Long Live 200LX(and Thaddeus). I know it isn't
> "sexy" but I certainly don't have to be tethered to a PC somewhere.
>
> Doug
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I hated using Jot and other stylus inputs when I had my Phenom,
because the keyboard made it very awkward to write on the screen.  I
am getting pretty good at Grafitti and that to me is better than
keyboarding because I'm the type of person who never could get the
hang of composing on the computer.  (Can we say yellow legal
pads...hmmm...maybe I need one of those Cross tablets. Nah - too
big!)

I think the trick is not to use the dinky little stylus that comes
with the machine and spend an hour or so really practicing.

Terry

On 21 Jan 00 at 11:06, Fryday wrote:

> I guess I'm still biased against the palmpilot. With all the
> computing power these little machines can handle, we still need to
> learn a script that the machine recognizes. Well probably not unlike
> learning how to type, but to me, one way or the other, it's a
> perfect example of both lowering people's expectations so they are
> happy with an inferior design and having to adapt to a machine
> rather than the other way around.
>
> Design-wise, I want a MessagePad with the form factor of the
> Palmpilot.
>
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Subject:      Re: open.exe
Comments: To: stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch

   >I tried to start a open.exe session from the app manager with the
   >line: a:\open.exe c:\_dat\file.wk1
   >1-2-3 doesn't open the spreadsheet. I tried it with the line
   >a:\open.exe c:\_dat\file.wk1=A6
   >too, but it doesn't too.
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:19:49 +0000

I think Peniel's already mentioned the use of KEY128.SYS to expand the
keyboard buffer. This was mentioned in the doc for OPEN because I ran into
the same problem when I started.

Apparently, OPEN starts 123 by just typing in the keystrokes needed to open
the worksheet once it brings up 123, and runs out of keyboard buffer if
your spreadsheet pathname is too long.

- Longden

PS KEY128.SYS is provided with KEYSTUFF.ZIP on SUPER

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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:18:42 +0000
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 07:18:33 -0500, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

>But is there any significant differences to talk about concerning =
newsservers?

The article numbers will vary between servers, causing you to either
download articles you already have, or worse to miss articles altogether.

--=20
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Team 200LX UK

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On Sun, Jan 23, 2000 at 09:03:23AM -0600, Ted Brown wrote:
> The reason I tried to install it from SysMgr (where I had installed Hisword
> before I got SC) is that I am intimidated by SC's installation!   I have
> managed to create a new session (Ctrl+4) but it only leaves me at the DOS
> prompt in a session named Hisword.  From there, if I try to run Hisword I
> get 'cannot execute A:\Hisword\Hisword.exe.  Workarea 4 is alloted 350k
> memory.

BTW- Did you have HisWord running successfully before installing SC?

Here's my SC setup:

   Work Area Name: HisWord
   Work Area Size: 350k
   Work Area Key:  5
   Work Area Startup Command List: c:\bin\hw.bat

hw.bat contains:

@echo off
c:
cd\hisword
:start
diet -z
hisword
diet -zr
echo Press ctrl-C to quit...any other key to reload HisWord
pause
goto start

You can delete most of the above (i.e. delete diet if you're not compressing
your note files).  You can also delete the ":start", "echo...", "pause", and
"goto start" (the purpose of these lines is it easily allows me to stop and
restart HisWord after compiling a new version).

--
Tom Hoover N5NTM  - http://www.hisword.net/tom
    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
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Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> But is there any significant differences to talk about concerning newsservers?

The one I used before I could only reach when I called my isp's
nodenumber. It did not work from anywhere else.

The one I am using now identify me as the Hplx newsserver do, with
username and password. Now I can send newsmessages as long as I have a
connection to the internet.

There are a lot of difference between newsservers. Downloadspeed can be
different + more. My isp's had a serious problem were they showed old
messages as new.. I called it the "DejaVu" server for a while because I
read the same messages over and over again..

Bye

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John wrote:

> Those who have wireless phone access with their HP200LX might be able to
> run an old DOS version of PCanywhere on both their desktop and palmtop to
> do this with some DOS programs, already.  I guess it would depend upon
> whether the LX could echo the remote desktop's screen adequately.

This should be possible with the Connectivity Pack?

I have not tried it myself, Is there somebody that have done this and
can post their comments..

I would like to either use a V34 Pcmcia modem or my mobil phone to call
from Hplx to my desktop. Do I have to have a analog modem on the pc or
will it work with my isdnphone with rs232. The Filer in Cpack needs to
be running ofcourse.

Hmm I will have to look into this..interesting

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I have a Simple Tech 40MB card that I use in my CT50 and my 200LX
(as well as a Compaq and a Dell). The card works well in all
environments _except_ in the 200, where things go badly if I boot with
the card installed. I have no problem when I boot and then later
install the card, however. Since I use the card in the 200 only
rarely, this doesn't cause me much difficulty, so I haven't tracked
down a particular cause to the problem.

Chris Randle wrote:
>
> Hi Sergio,
>
> I too use a 48MB Sandisk card with my 200LX and Librettos CT50
> (Win 95) and CT110 (Win 98). I swap them back and forth with
> gay abandon and no waits. The Librettos recognised the card
...

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Yes, I had Hisword running but it was on a different flashcard.  I purchased
a new 48m Sandisk card and had Thaddeus install SC on it.  Other than the
difference in directory names, my configuration looks the same as yours.
However, I just noticed that if I terminate SysMgr and try running Hisword
from DOS,  it loads and displays the opening screen OK but if I try to
change the verse to Matthew 1.1 I get a message 'word message too large.
Damaged stack or heap'.  At this point, I'm not sure whether the problem is
with Hisword or SC.


>BTW- Did you have HisWord running successfully before installing SC?
>
>Here's my SC setup:
>
>   Work Area Name: HisWord
>   Work Area Size: 350k
>   Work Area Key:  5
>   Work Area Startup Command List: c:\bin\hw.bat
>
>hw.bat contains:
>
>@echo off
>c:
>cd\hisword
>:start
>diet -z
>hisword
>diet -zr
>echo Press ctrl-C to quit...any other key to reload HisWord
>pause
>goto start
>
>You can delete most of the above (i.e. delete diet if you're not
compressing
>your note files).  You can also delete the ":start", "echo...", "pause",
and
>"goto start" (the purpose of these lines is it easily allows me to stop and
>restart HisWord after compiling a new version).
>--
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Tomas,

Tomas Moberg wrote:
> > I pondered this in my mind. Why is it illegal to do ICQ
> > with WWW/LX Plus? I think from the perspective of WWW/LX
>
> Here follows a part of my correspondance with the ICQ staff:
>
> ----------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------
> From: Contact 
> To: "'Tomas Moberg'" 
> Subject: RE: FW: ICQ
> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 14:10:45 +0200
>
> Dear Mr. Moberg,
>
> Please be advised that ICQ does not authorize ICQ related software
> development outside the ICQ Team.
>
> Rafi Zauer
> ICQ Business Development Team

Well, there you have it. I cannot help you then, sorry.

I thought someone posted here awhile ago that ICQ code was
available someplace...

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The HP Calc does time calculations.  See the manual

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In HPCalc, see the Math application with HMS and Hr functions, and the
Date Calc application. Then the various 123 date and time formats and
functions in Lotus. Get help with F1 in the relevant applications. Most
time related calculations can be done quit easily either in HPCalc or
in Lotus.

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On Sun, Jan 23, 2000 at 02:14:08PM -0600, Ted Brown wrote:
> Yes, I had Hisword running but it was on a different flashcard.  I purchased
> a new 48m Sandisk card and had Thaddeus install SC on it.  Other than the
> difference in directory names, my configuration looks the same as yours.
> However, I just noticed that if I terminate SysMgr and try running Hisword
> from DOS,  it loads and displays the opening screen OK but if I try to
> change the verse to Matthew 1.1 I get a message 'word message too large.
> Damaged stack or heap'.  At this point, I'm not sure whether the problem is
> with Hisword or SC.

If it was running before, I see no reason that it won't now run from DOS (at
least).  Maybe one of your HisWord files is damaged?  Have you recopied
hisword.exe and/or datafiles?

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Folks,


It was on tucows in the palm pilot section



> > > > If it isn't on super I don't know where I picked it up.  The
> > > > writer is
> > > > Jay Vaughan  In his readme file he
> > > > writes:
> > > > > This is a quick and dirty package prepared for USR Pilot users that
> want
> > > > > to export data from any of the HP series of palmtop computers (95LX,
> > > 100LX,
> > > > > and 200LX) to the Pilot.
> > > > Terry Owen wrote:
> > > > > A search didn't turn up this program on Super.
> > > > > On 21 Jan 00 at 19:26, Patrick West wrote:
> > > > > > I used the lx2pilot.zip from Super to transfer stuff from my
> > > > > > hp 200lx to my wife's palm pilot.

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Hi Alan,
I would like to received the new version of Quick view.
regards
Al
PS: is it possible to start it from the Filer?

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What are the changes in QUICKVIEW?

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I have noticed that SMMX does not crash if it is the only application
running when you add/change an application. It never crashed on me
opening it and running an application.

So I press the hot-key for tasklist, press F6 (close all running
applications), and then open SMMX to add or change an application.

Paulo


Martin Bergvill wrote:
> I had this solution before I started to use Smmlx. I have now set up a
> lot of batchfiles like you there instead of in the Applicationmanager.
>
> I have several folders too. One for "System" batch files and some for
> dosprograms/games. The Smmlx chrashes from time to timme when I edit a
> icon, but I can live with that. Check it out..

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Yes I know. but the point was that I wouldnt have to hang up and redial =
with DataCom once I am connected with www/lx.
And at work I can not use DataCom with Ethernet.

> You should be able to do this with DataComm, the built-in
> terminal program called by Ctrl-Quicken.  It will run
> scripts.
>
> Ted

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Hey, put me on the list if you have a tester backout!


By the way any idea on cost?  (chances are it will be
too much for me, but I am curious)

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> long last, and if the response is positive, we're
> all ready to start.>>
>
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> week or so (don't worry --
> those beta testers who we have contacted, we'll let
> you know when you should
> send your units to us).
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Barry,

This may be a stupid question, but have you tried the
ON plus the '+' or '-' keys to adjust contrast on
these machines?

I am sure with having so many, that you have, but I
just thought I'd ask.

Questor


--- Barry Marks  wrote:
> > * The 200LX's screen is *much* easier to read - it
> > has a better
> > contrast.
>
> I have a 100lx and 3 200lx's. (I'm ready for the
> future :).  In my case the
> 100lx has easilly the best screen.  One of the
> 200lx's has a fairly poor
> screen.  The other 2 are pretty good.  The 100 is
> considerably better.
>
> I also have a 1 meg 95 lx which is as good as the
> 100lx.  The screen was
> great.  But the best screen of all was on the 512k
> 95lx which was my first
> palmtop.  My nephew has been using it for years.
> It's bright and lots of
> contrast and easy to read.
>
> I'm convinced that it's all the luck of the draw.
> Which day did they have a
> good run?  Which were made the morning after their
> Christmas party?
>
> Barry
>
> > * The 200LX's screen is *much* easier to read - it
> > has a better
> > contrast.
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:

> By the way any idea on cost?  (chances are it will be too much for me,
> but I am curious)

Cost will be in the neighborhood of $200.

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Of course.  I was talking about screen quality.  There's not only a
difference in contrast but a difference in color.

Barry

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>
> Barry,
>
> This may be a stupid question, but have you tried the
> ON plus the '+' or '-' keys to adjust contrast on
> these machines?
>
> I am sure with having so many, that you have, but I
> just thought I'd ask.
>
> Questor
>
>
> --- Barry Marks  wrote:
> > > * The 200LX's screen is *much* easier to read - it
> > > has a better
> > > contrast.
> >
> > I have a 100lx and 3 200lx's. (I'm ready for the
> > future :).  In my case the
> > 100lx has easilly the best screen.  One of the
> > 200lx's has a fairly poor
> > screen.  The other 2 are pretty good.  The 100 is
> > considerably better.
> >
> > I also have a 1 meg 95 lx which is as good as the
> > 100lx.  The screen was
> > great.  But the best screen of all was on the 512k
> > 95lx which was my first
> > palmtop.  My nephew has been using it for years.
> > It's bright and lots of
> > contrast and easy to read.
> >
> > I'm convinced that it's all the luck of the draw.
> > Which day did they have a
> > good run?  Which were made the morning after their
> > Christmas party?
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > > * The 200LX's screen is *much* easier to read - it
> > > has a better
> > > contrast.
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, Barry Marks wrote:

> Of course.  I was talking about screen quality.  There's not only a
> difference in contrast but a difference in color.

Screens in most HP products (and in TI products as well) are known to vary
widely in quality; some of them have a greenish background and bluish
pixels, and others have a white-grey background with grey/black pixels.
Personaly, I've found the green-blue screens to be far superior to the
white-grey screens, so I had a chance to examine a unit before purchase,
I'd look for that quality.  YMMV.

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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:29:00 -0600
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Does Thaddeus still have new HP200LXs available?

Regards,

David Ball
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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:42:54 -0500
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> Does anyone know if there is any type of calculator program for the LX =
(LX
> or DOS) that will calculate time? Please let me know.

Tell us more about what you need.  The built-in calc program will do math =
in
hours/minutes/seconds, but it takes some effort.  I use Solver function =
to
calculate dates, such as how many weeks into a pregnancy a woman is given =
her
due date.

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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:53:55 -0600
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I've been seeing quite a few of these Omingos for sale on Ebay of late.
How do they compare versus the 200LX in functionality and useability?  I
assume the comparison is unfavorable towards the Omnigo.


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On Sun, 23 Jan 2000, David Ball wrote:

> I've been seeing quite a few of these Omingos for sale on Ebay of
> late. How do they compare versus the 200LX in functionality and
> useability?  I assume the comparison is unfavorable towards the
> Omnigo.

The Omnigo 100/120 are much less useful than the 200LX as a palmtop
computer; smaller screen, weird keyboard, no AC adapter port,
etc.  However, they run GEOS, and so there are some cool programs for
them.  The Omnigo 700LX is a completely different beast: it's like a
200LX, but bigger and with a built-in docking cradle for a Nokia GSM phone
(or the 2190 in the US).  Bill Childers reviewed the OG700LX at:


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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 06:20:34 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg 
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The ICQ code is available, but it is not the official protocol. It is a
hacked and reverse-enginered code.
There exists over 16 ICQ clones at this moment and Mirabillis is not
doinq anything about it.
(A tip if You have a firewall and a java capable browser is:
http://www.webicq.com)

There already exists a ICQ clone for DOS that runs well on the HP200LX.
But the idea was to have one that works with the WWW/LX api.

Maybee this is a bad idea (For the customer, dasoft or ...)?
But could it bee posible to modify WWW/LX so
that it could use both the pure /lx applications _and_ the wattcp
applications?
Then one could use MICQ for DOS with WWW/LX (and other applications
too).

> > Please be advised that ICQ does not authorize ICQ related software
> > development outside the ICQ Team.
...
>
> Well, there you have it. I cannot help you then, sorry.
>
> I thought someone posted here awhile ago that ICQ code was
> available someplace...
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Sat, 22 Jan 2000 20:46:00 +0930
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From:         Rod Whitby 
Subject:      Moving data from HP200LX to Palm V

Well, my company went a gave me a Palm V so that I can sync
my calendar with the company server.  So now I gotta see if
I can make it work with my HP200X.

First problem:  Moving phone book and appointments to the
Palm - anyone have an easy way to so this that does not
involve Outlook ?

Second problem:  Communication between the two.

I'd really like to be able to transfer data via IR between the
two machines.  I tried Andreas' IR.EXE program, but couldn't
get it to work with the Palm.  Does anyone know if it has been
designed to talk to the Palm, or does it only talk to phones ?

Note that I'm not giving up the HP200LX - it will still be my
main machine for reading mail and news when travelling, and
it's still the only palmtop that can run a full-blown C
compiler.

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Date:         Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:33:14 +0100
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Russel Brooks  wrote:
> I've done a lot of time calculations in Rexx which runs on the
> LX.
>
>
Which REXX version do you use on the palmtop?

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> The card works well in all
> environments _except_ in the 200, where things go badly if I boot with
> the card installed. I have no problem when I boot and then later
> install the card, however.

Does the card have autoexec.bat and config.sys files on it?  The HP200LX =
will
boot using the files on a Flash card if those are present.  If they are =
not, it
will use the ones on C:.  So, if you have those files on the card, =
booting with
the card will use different startup files than booting without the card.
Perhaps this is you problem.

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> However, I just noticed that if I terminate SysMgr and try running =
Hisword
> from DOS,  it loads and displays the opening screen OK but if I try to
> change the verse to Matthew 1.1 I get a message 'word message too =
large.
> Damaged stack or heap'.  At this point, I'm not sure whether the =
problem is
> with Hisword or SC.

That sounds like Hisword is the problem.  Try restoring a backup or
reinstalling Hisword and see if that fixes things.

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>  ...and
> it's still the only palmtop that can run a full-blown C
> compiler.

Which C compiler are you using, Rod?

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Ross,

Thanks for getting back to me.  To me is seems as if the ROM
card is the key to the whole machine unless you would use it
for parts only.  I will have to think on this a bit.  Am I
missing something here?     =Bob=

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I have been able to locate some previous discussion about reading PDF files=
 on
the 200LX but can=92t seem to find the answer.  I assume that Acrobat 1.0=
 would
work but I can=92t find it either.  Anyone out there reading PDF files?   =
=20
Thanks.

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Question about ADBDUMP/ADBLOAD:

I have produced a appt.cdf file with "adbdump -c -i tn appt.adb appt.cdf",
and have edited the appt.cdf file to create a list of similar ToDo items.

The edited file looks like:
"6.5.2000","Biweekly, IPS","",20,"0 ",5,""
"5.6.2000","Biweekly, IPS","",20,"0 ",5,""
"6.7.2000","Biweekly, IPS","",20,"0 ",5,""
...

Then I run "adbload appt.cdf merge,adb", open the appoitment book,
call Menu/File/Merge, merge.adb, and get the error message
"Record not found", and my new ToDos are not loaded.

What am I doing wrong? I found no hints in the docs.

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After my problems in opening a wk1 file using open.exe and the string
"a:\tools\open.exe c:\_dat\file.wk1|"
I received the suggestion, that I shall use kb128.sys.
Before it simply displayed c:\ in A1 of Lotus 1-2-3.
Now it displays c:\_dat\file.wk1. So there really was a keyboard buffer problem.

But it already doesn't open the file. Is it, because I have a german LX?
On the German LX, the menu is:

/Transfer /Laden ("Laden" is "load")

I don't think, that the english version is different in the characters ( /tl
), is it?
Would there be any solution for this, if I located the problem correctly?

 TIA
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:12:41 -0500
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I wouldn't assume that even Acrobat 1.0 would work. I would be surprised
if 1.0 didn't require at least an 80286. I would also be mildly
surprised if 1.0 would work on a CGA.

In any event, translation of any modern PDF requires enough CPU
horsepower that running on the 200lx would, I'd guess, require minutes
(if not hours) to get a page displayed...

Stripping PDF into ASCII text strikes me as a much more plausible
approach...

Larry Berry wrote:
>
> I have been able to locate some previous discussion about reading PDF files on
> the 200LX but can t seem to find the answer.  I assume that Acrobat 1.0 would
> work but I can t find it either.  Anyone out there reading PDF files?
> Thanks.
>
> Larry Berry

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              Paco =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez?= 
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You need at least a 386 machine in order to use the old DOS Acrobat Reader.

I remember seeing in the web some PDF to RTF/TXT/HTML converters. Use
Altavista. This could be a solution.

Anyway, if you need the DOS reader, Adobe have lost any interest in it but
I can send you an old copy.

Larry wrote...

>I have been able to locate some previous discussion about reading PDF
files on
>the 200LX but can=92t seem to find the answer.  I assume that Acrobat 1.0=
 would
>work but I can=92t find it either.  Anyone out there reading PDF files?   =
=20

Saludos.

Paco L=F3pez.
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Well, I only succeeded in denting the white thingy, and the
finger trick did not work for me, so I am hoping that when I
send my palmtop over to get my backlight, David Seargant
might be merciful and fix that too while he is at it.  8=)
:-p

------Original Message------
From: Curtis Cameron 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 22, 2000 4:34:49 AM GMT
Subject: Re: Dropped palmtop, help!!!


Daniel Hertrich wrote:
>Plug in the DC adapter of the palmtop (to not drain the
backup battery
>during the following process), open the main battery cover
and remove the
>batteries.
>
>Do you see a little white part that looks like a screw? It
should hold
>the cylindrical screen 'tube' in place. Is it loose? If
yes, try to fix
>it.

Since my palmtop was broken in exactly the way Domingo
described his,
I started with this advice and pretty quickly saw the
problem. With
the battery taken out, I could see the two little tabs that
hold the
cylindrical hinge cover on its left side had popped out. I
couldn't
pop it in from the top alone, but with the battery out I
pressed
firmly with my thumb on the hinge cover, and my finger
inside the
battery compartment (on top of the metal strip), and it
snapped back
into place.

thanks!

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--- David Sargeant  wrote:
> Cost will be in the neighborhood of $200.

That's what I thought.  Seems way too high for me
considering that I could buy a lightly used 200LX for
that kind of money.

I mean, I am sure they will get plenty of business
from those who are LX power users, but $200 seems
excessive for an option that is very common nowadays
on other PDA's (although calling a LX a PDA is an
understatement).

(Yeah, I know....reasearch and development costs
money, but by trimming the cost down, there is a
definate chance that more people who don't use thier
machines alot will get the backlight upgrade, which
may make them use it ALOT more.  And if they use it
alot more that would be more prone to spend even more
money on memory, doublespeed, flash cards, software,
etc.  High price tag on an option for a discontinued
item is little like shooting yourself on the foot.)

I think if the price were more reasonable, say $99, it
would be extremely hard to resist by people (like me)
who love thier LX's but don't use them each and
everyday.  (Reason being that with a backlight, it
might get used more.  But for $200 dollars, it is hard
to justify that kinda cash for an item that spends a
fair amount of time in a drawer.) I'd be willing to
bet I would use my LX more if I had a backlight, but I
wouldn't bet $200 on it.

With that said...although the price of the
backlighting is beyond what I consider reasonable, I
am glad to see that someone is looking for ways to
improve this great product and are picking up where HP
dropped the ball.

Just my two cents.


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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:36:06 -0800
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>people (like me) who love thier LX's but don't use them
>each and everyday

I think that says it all right there.  You're talking to a large audience that's
gone to extreme lengths to use their LX's every waking moment, in every
conceivable circumstance ... sans backlighting.

One man's "reasonable" is another man's "bargain".

 They could also give it away free as a way to entice people to use their LX's
and then recoup the cost by overcharging for replacement battery covers .

>I am glad to see that someone is looking for ways to
>improve this great product

I agree.

>Just my two cents.

About $199.98 short 

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You may be out of luck.  English versions load the spreadsheet using /fr
(File/Retrieve), followed by the full pathname.

- Longden





Stephan Goeldi  on 01/24/2000 09:11:39 AM

Please respond to stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch

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Subject:  open.exe




After my problems in opening a wk1 file using open.exe and the string
"a:\tools\open.exe c:\_dat\file.wk1|"
I received the suggestion, that I shall use kb128.sys.
Before it simply displayed c:\ in A1 of Lotus 1-2-3.
Now it displays c:\_dat\file.wk1. So there really was a keyboard buffer problem.

But it already doesn't open the file. Is it, because I have a german LX?
On the German LX, the menu is:

/Transfer /Laden ("Laden" is "load")

I don't think, that the english version is different in the characters ( /tl
), is it?
Would there be any solution for this, if I located the problem correctly?

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I recently purchased a Lib 20 and I'm trying to configure the video under
Windows. It came with english Win95 installed and no original software.

Everytime it boots it says the video adaptor is not configured properly. I
found drivers for the GB7548 on Cirrus Logic's site and tried installing
them. Then it boots to a blue screen with fatal errors. Any hints?

There's very little information on the web that's not in Japanese, which I
can't read. I've seen references to an english translation of a Libretto
FAQ which includes the 20, but have not been able to find it. I have the
user manuals for the 20 and Win95, but of course they're in Japanese too.
Any pointers to more information in English?

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As a prospective backlight customer, I would be interested
in knowing what is the concern about upgrading a used
palmtop versus  a new one (I read this on the list before,
but never heard of a similar concern with the memory and DS
upgrades).  Feel free to correct/clarify this information.
Also, what happens with the upgrade if the palmtop dies
(the financial investment, that is).

Domingo

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From: David Sargeant 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Sent: January 22, 2000 7:19:25 AM GMT
Subject: Re: 100LX  vs. 200LX


On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:

> Is backlighting available yet?

Not just yet.  However, beta testing is anticipated to start
next week, at long last, and if the response is positive,
we're all ready to start.

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Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:14:45 -0500 (EST)

02h03m06s ago ...
On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> But it already doesn't open the file. Is it, because I have a german =
LX?
> On the German LX, the menu is:
>
> /Transfer /Laden ("Laden" is "load")
>
> I don't think, that the english version is different in the characters =
( /tl
> ), is it?
> Would there be any solution for this, if I located the problem correctly=
?

As Longden already wrote, the English menu selection is /fr.  I don't
know of a work around using OPEN.EXE, but you should be able to work
something out using KeyStuff (KS), which you have, and PNS
(point-n-shoot).

I have X-Finder set up to open WK1 files using a macro.  You could do
the same thing with the German menu letters.


HTH

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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:46:37 -0600
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  I checked on www.google.com...  It is also at:
        ftp://ftp.datacanyon.com/pub/amug/files/pilot/pc/lx2pilot.zip
  and

http://wuarchive.wustl.edu/systems/mac/amug/files/pilot/pc/lx2pilot.zip

    ... JLS

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick West Ýmailto:patrickwest@USWEST.NET¨

> It was on tucows in the palm pilot section

> > > > > > Terry Owen wrote:
> > > > > > A search didn't turn up this program on Super.
> > > > > > On 21 Jan 00 at 19:26, Patrick West wrote:
> > > > > > > I used the lx2pilot.zip from Super to transfer
> stuff from my
> > > > > > > hp 200lx to my wife's palm pilot.
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Terry Owen writes:
> To me the perfect system would be if the LX and the Palm would talk
> to each other.  Are there any IrDA experts out there?

Yep, Andreas Garzotto.

But we would have to convince D&A to release the source code
so that we can make IR.EXE talk to the Palm ... :-)

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Sorry for the bandwidth, but I'd like to pick the brains of the programmers here
who have coded on Windows 95/98 before.

This is for a friend .... I have some general questions and have never coded a
Windows app before (my world is DOS, mainframe and unix):

1) Are MS Visual C++ 6.0 and Borland C++ Builder 4.0 the main players as far as
compilers for building general apps?

2) I've found the above compilers sold at significant discount as "academic
versions" .. how do "academic" differ in content from "normal" retail versions?

3) In regards to Win9x apps, is there any point in focusing on C rather than C++
(ie, are there still general development areas where C code is preferred)?

4) I know there are freeware compilers available, but are there any preferred
channels/websites for the commercial ones (ie good price/selection)?

5) There are older 16 bit compilers that work under DOS or Win 3.x ... what are
the disadvantages of using these to write apps to run on Win9x?

For the purpose of the above, assume that  the Win9x app  can be a simple
checkbook or accounting program (entry windows, reports, simple database/file,
etc), or a graphical game (I hope that quells the Java, Rexx and Perl advocates
).

Thanks.  Offline email answers to any or all questions, or pointers to links
will be appreciated.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:32:27 +1300
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Questor Jones wrote:
> Cost will be in the neighborhood of $200.
>>That's what I thought.  Seems way too high for me
>>considering that I could buy a lightly used 200LX for
>>that kind of money.

Not until prolink and johnnydean go away !!

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---
I noticed that too...at least the johnnydean
bidding....what the heck was that all about?

Not exactly bargain shoppers.  What was that all
about, were they really planning on buying all those
do you think?  If not, I feel sorry for all those
sellers that will have to re-list.
----

On the original topic:
I also wanted to mention that I realize the term
reasonable is subjective, but go to staples and look
at all the extremely cheap organizers now that have
backlighting....I mean it's pretty common.

Granted adding it to an existing machine is more
difficult, which is why I think that $99 is
"reasonable".

Perhaps after beta testing has completed and it
becomes an assembly line process, the cost will come
down, but somehow I doubt it.  I mean look at the
prices to upgrade memory. When compared to the actual
cost of memory today the cost per MB of the upgrades
are stratoshperic.

Yeah, I know, if I don't like it, then I don't have to
buy it.

Fair enough.

Anyway, I look forward to hearing more about this from
the beta testers once they get to try it out.

Questor


--- Roger Whitmarsh  wrote:
> Questor Jones wrote:
> > Cost will be in the neighborhood of $200.
> >>That's what I thought.  Seems way too high for me
> >>considering that I could buy a lightly used 200LX
> for
> >>that kind of money.
>
> Not until prolink and johnnydean go away !!
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:39:47 -0800
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:

> Perhaps after beta testing has completed and it becomes an assembly
> line process, the cost will come down, but somehow I doubt it.  I mean
> look at the prices to upgrade memory. When compared to the actual cost
> of memory today the cost per MB of the upgrades are stratoshperic.

I believe the actual cost of the memory used in the palmtop upgrades is
extremely high, and accounts for a significant portion of the end-user
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, dd diaz wrote:

> As a prospective backlight customer, I would be interested in knowing
> what is the concern about upgrading a used palmtop versus a new one (I
> read this on the list before, but never heard of a similar concern
> with the memory and DS upgrades).  Feel free to correct/clarify this
> information.  Also, what happens with the upgrade if the palmtop dies
> (the financial investment, that is).

The backlight is pretty much marketed as an upgrade for used palmtops, as
there are very few new palmtops to upgrade.  The process is exactly the
same (unless you've spilled grape juice or whatever on the palmtop you
want upgraed, in which case the process would have to be altered ).

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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:53:17 -0800
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>I noticed that too...at least the johnnydean
>bidding....what the heck was that all about?

Speculation is that he and prolink are buying for a corporate client to maintain
stock.

>reasonable is subjective, but go to staples and look
>at all the extremely cheap organizers now that have
>backlighting....I mean it's pretty common.

Agreed, but the 200LX is no longer a commodity item like your generic laptops
and PDAs, unless you can name a cheap PDA that runs DOS.  Comparing something
that's in limited supply (and demand) to a commodity that's in full production
is apples and oranges at best.  Besides, they have backlighting, while we have
DOS.

>Perhaps after beta testing has completed and it
>becomes an assembly line process, the cost will come
>down, but somehow I doubt it

There's another of your problems.  The assembly line is likely one or two
persons.

Cost reduction is accomplished by volume, and even all the 200LX users in the
world may not provide enough volume for them to realize a significant cost
reduction.

The project is done by individuals, for individuals, using almost custom parts.

Like getting a modern custom air conditioner added to your Ford Model T.  Maybe
it can be done, but don't expect it at factory cost.

>compared to the actual cost of memory today cost per MB
>of the upgrades are stratoshperic.

A sad truth of economics.

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Longden,

I will try to answer each question as best I can,
although I suggest getting multiple opinions as some
of these are kind of subjective questions:

--- Longden Loo  wrote:
> 1) Are MS Visual C++ 6.0 and Borland C++ Builder 4.0
> the main players as far as
> compilers for building general apps?
>
Symnatec is also a pretty big player.  I have used
Visual C++ 6.0 (primarily for C coding but some C++ as
well) and I like it over all.  The 6.0 version is
quite nice and has some nice visual tools.  I haven't
tried the others lately so I can't say.  The microsoft
environment gives you access to the Microsoft
Foundation Classes for C++, which seems o be quite
popular for C++ coding.  All three of these players
make good products so I suggest finding some sites
that compare them as there is ALOT to consider.

> 2) I've found the above compilers sold at
> significant discount as "academic
> versions" .. how do "academic" differ in content
> from "normal" retail versions?
My understanding (regarding Microsoft's products) is
that the academic pricing version and the retail
version are the same in functionality, it's just that
the academic version is only "allowed" to be used by
students and staff of a university (and a few other
specific groups).  I suggest getting the retail
version so you don't get into legal snafus with
Microsoft about the licence when you release your
product, especially if it is going to be a commercial
endeavor.  You can read more about the specifics of th
licences at Microsoft's site.


> 3) In regards to Win9x apps, is there any point in
> focusing on C rather than C++
> (ie, are there still general development areas where
> C code is preferred)?
Subjective question.  'C' is generally considered
faster than C++, but C++ (and Object oriented code in
general) is considered to be better designed and
easier to maintain.  Now, that previous statement is
assuming you are talking about people writing good
code.  There are plenty of Hacks that can write slow
'C' code and unmaintainable C++ code.  If you write
solid code the general advantages are as I stated.
The next question s what is the industry using? Well,
there is so much C code that there will always be a
need for C programmers.  C++ is also quite popular and
is considered more "cutting edge" so it might be a
better fit for newer tech-avy projects.  I should
mention that Java is also very popular and is
object-oriented and is widely used on the web
(however, there are performance issues and questions
about applicability is large-scale commercial
applications.)  I think Java is a wonderful language
and with it's platform independence and straight
forward design of the language it is poised to become
an even more popular language with businesses once the
performance issues are resolved.  (BTW, Microsoft
makes J++ 6.0 but the visual tools don't seem to want
to generate pure java code, instead they always want
to drag in microsoft's non-portable extensions, so do
some research when looking into java environments.)

>
> 4) I know there are freeware compilers available,
> but are there any preferred
> channels/websites for the commercial ones (ie good
> price/selection)?
Decide on what compiler you want (by reading reviews
and doing research).  Then go to shopper.com to find
out who has it for the best price.  (also, go to
deal-finder.com to see if there is a coupon available
to get a discount at the sites that sell it.) But
before buying check out resellerratings.com and see if
the store you selected is reputable.


>
> 5) There are older 16 bit compilers that work under
> DOS or Win 3.x ... what are
> the disadvantages of using these to write apps to
> run on Win9x?
The 16 bit compilers generate 16bit applications that
don't take fulladvantage of the capabilities and speed
of todays 32bit operating systems.  Go with 32bit and
write for a graphical environment, as it will give you
the most usable experience.

I hope this was useful, feel free to let me know if
you have any followup questions.  Sorry to all for the
length of the message, but I wanted to address all
questions.

Questor
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:22:08 -0500
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> Screens in most HP products (and in TI products as well) are known to vary
> widely in quality; some of them have a greenish background and bluish
> pixels, and others have a white-grey background with grey/black pixels.
> Personaly, I've found the green-blue screens to be far superior to the
> white-grey screens, so I had a chance to examine a unit before purchase,
> I'd look for that quality.  YMMV.
>
I compared the screens of my 100LX (SG315...) and my 200LX (SG645...)
side-by-side, and in my case I can see no difference as long as the contrast is
set to the *same value* on both machines. Both of my units certainly have a
green background (but the foreground "on" pixels look very black rather than
blue) so maybe I have just been lucky.

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mailto:pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu
       pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu

Use the above two addresses to translate pdf files.
The first one is to translate to a text file and the
second to a html file. All you need to do is email
your file to one of these addresses and you will
receive your translation back in a couple of minutes.

I just did a translation of a book I downloaded from
www.1stbooks.com in pdf format. Now that I have the
book in text format I can read it with "vertical
reader" on my 200lx!




--- Paco Lspez  wrote:
> You need at least a 386 machine in order to use the
> old DOS Acrobat Reader.
>
> I remember seeing in the web some PDF to
> RTF/TXT/HTML converters. Use
> Altavista. This could be a solution.
>
> Anyway, if you need the DOS reader, Adobe have lost
> any interest in it but
> I can send you an old copy.
>
> Larry wrote...
>
> >I have been able to locate some previous discussion
> about reading PDF
> files on
> >the 200LX but can t seem to find the answer.  I
> assume that Acrobat 1.0 would
> >work but I can t find it either.  Anyone out there
> reading PDF files?
>
> Saludos.
>
> Paco Lspez.
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> Those who have wireless phone access with their HP200LX might be able to
> run an old DOS version of PCanywhere on both their desktop and palmtop to
> do this with some DOS programs, already.  I guess it would depend upon
> whether the LX could echo the remote desktop's screen adequately.
>
Is anyone on this list currently using PC Anywhere on an LX to run software
remotely on their home or office machine? If so, which version? Any tips for the
rest of us?

> I used to use a remote laptop computer wired to the phone line to call my
> DOS based BBS and gain remote control of the BBS computer. I was able to
> run programs on my desktop computer and my desktop computer's screen was
> echoed onto the laptop through the phone line. I was able to use of some
> rather powerful applications through an underpowered remotely located
> laptop computer in that way. :-)

Many, many years ago I had an IBM PS/2 Model 30 at the office and a Toshiba
1200HB laptop at home. I always left the office machine running PC Anywhere 3.0,
with the modem set to auto answer. That way, if I didn't feel making the commute
to work the next morning, I could simply use my laptop to dial up and take
control of the PS/2, running its applications and accessing its files remotely.

Everything I typed on the laptop's keyboard would appear on the PS/2 as if it
were coming from its own keyboard, and everything displayed on the PS/2's screen
would be echoed on the laptop's screen. Very cool! (Though a couple of my
co-workers found it spooky to walk past my PS/2 and see it working away, even
though no one was sitting in front of it!)

I ran Word 5.0, Lotus 1-2-3 and Works 20 this way, with great success. Windows
3.0 worked too, but because I only had 1200 baud modems at either end, it took
forever to redraw the screen. I'd like to try it now with 14400 bps modems!

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Rex3 or Rex5 or both?

Philippe

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> I hate to bug you again, but here's a second request:
>
> Could each of you who is willing to help me, provide me the following
> additional data from your REX:
>
> Go into contacts... navigate through the leter index tabls, and report
> to me the following breakout for all the letters of the alphabet.  For
> example, the unit I have reports
>
>    # a al ar b be bo br bu
>    c ch co cr cu d de di do dr e ed el er et
>    etc...
>
> I would like to have this breakdown for each of you who send me a file.
> I think this is important to understanding the mysterious index values
> in the data file.  You can put the information in your e-mail to me, or
> in a separate file named r3xxx.dat.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Chris Lott
>

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Although I'm not in the market for backlighting, the $200 price
strikes me as eminently reasonable. I can't imagine it being worth
anyone's time to painstakingly carefully unwrap and open up a 200, fuss
with it and then painstakingly carefully close it back up and prepare it
for mailing for less than $100, and any parts and the actual labor
involved in _doing something_ to the 200 would be on top of that.

One of the problems/benefits of current technology is that mass
production is so very cheap, that it often costs a great deal more
to try to repair something rather than just replace it. I have no
doubt that HP could probably have added `backlighting' to the 200 for
a mass-production cost of _much less_ than $200, but that doesn't
have much to do with the cost of retro-fitting such capabilities.

Questor Jones wrote:
>
>...
>
> I also wanted to mention that I realize the term
> reasonable is subjective, but go to staples and look
> at all the extremely cheap organizers now that have
> backlighting....I mean it's pretty common.
>
> Granted adding it to an existing machine is more
> difficult, which is why I think that $99 is
> "reasonable".
>
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Ulrich Boche wrote:
> Russel Brooks  wrote:
> > I've done a lot of time calculations in Rexx which runs on the LX.
> Which REXX version do you use on the palmtop?

I use Personal Rexx from Quercus Systems.  I think I've see posts that
say Rexx from IBM DOS will also run on the LX and is faster.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 16:50:50 -0600
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> Is anyone on this list currently using PC Anywhere on an LX to run software
> remotely on their home or office machine? If so, which version?

Bruce:

When I first bought my 200LX, I used a similar program called CLOSEUP
to dial into a computer they had setup at our office.  We could check
local LAN e-mail on it, and also access files on the local server.
It was pretty easy to get the client program, CREMOTE, to work on
the palmtop.  Even though I haven't done that in years, know it can
be done.


-Chris

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> Question about ADBDUMP/ADBLOAD:

I think there are some problems with the load part, especially, if using
the HP200.  There is some slight difference in the file and even some of
the folks at HP back when they were around, could not help figure out
what was what.

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Perhaps Thaddeus should offer the backlight for 200$ but include a "50$ coupon
on any purchase of 100$ or more" or something like that. This way they'll get
repeat business which will offset the loss of profit from the coupon.

Philippe

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> --- David Sargeant  wrote:
> > Cost will be in the neighborhood of $200.
>
> That's what I thought.  Seems way too high for me
> considering that I could buy a lightly used 200LX for
> that kind of money.
>
> I mean, I am sure they will get plenty of business
> from those who are LX power users, but $200 seems
> excessive for an option that is very common nowadays
> on other PDA's (although calling a LX a PDA is an
> understatement).
>
> (Yeah, I know....reasearch and development costs
> money, but by trimming the cost down, there is a
> definate chance that more people who don't use thier
> machines alot will get the backlight upgrade, which
> may make them use it ALOT more.  And if they use it
> alot more that would be more prone to spend even more
> money on memory, doublespeed, flash cards, software,
> etc.  High price tag on an option for a discontinued
> item is little like shooting yourself on the foot.)
>
> I think if the price were more reasonable, say $99, it
> would be extremely hard to resist by people (like me)
> who love thier LX's but don't use them each and
> everyday.  (Reason being that with a backlight, it
> might get used more.  But for $200 dollars, it is hard
> to justify that kinda cash for an item that spends a
> fair amount of time in a drawer.) I'd be willing to
> bet I would use my LX more if I had a backlight, but I
> wouldn't bet $200 on it.
>
> With that said...although the price of the
> backlighting is beyond what I consider reasonable, I
> am glad to see that someone is looking for ways to
> improve this great product and are picking up where HP
> dropped the ball.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
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I am currently trying to track down a program called JetBeam for Dos.
 It may or may not help. :-)

I actually got the IR program to say "Connecting to Palm III" but was
never able to transfer anything.

Terry

On 24 Jan 00 at 19:49, Rod Whitby wrote:

> Terry Owen writes:
> > To me the perfect system would be if the LX and the Palm would talk
> > to each other.  Are there any IrDA experts out there?
>
> Yep, Andreas Garzotto.
>
> But we would have to convince D&A to release the source code
> so that we can make IR.EXE talk to the Palm ... :-)
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Subject:      ACT! on the LX? Ýmissing files¨

I was putzing with a version of ACT! (for DOS) that I downloaded after
everyone raved about it for awhile on this list.... 

It never worked for me -- it "wanted" some database files that must've been
missing, or that I did not know how to create.

Where can I find the Contact.DB1 and *.DB2 files for ACT!? Ýthose were the
ones it was asking for....¨.

Also, is this abandonware?  I own a copy of Act! Ýposs. 2 ... different
versions though¨, should that be enough?

This is "low priority," I may never experiment beyond just seeing what it
looks like, booted up, on the LX screen.  I'm pretty tied to Outlook at
work!!

Should I just load the Windows Version and try to either do an export or see
if the files install w/ the (Windows) version I can find?

TIA for any help.

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It is Dead as of Feb 29, 2000 as it doesn't see the 29th and
everything is off from then forward.

"Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" wrote:
>
> I was putzing with a version of ACT! (for DOS) that I downloaded after
> everyone raved about it for awhile on this list....  back>
>
> It never worked for me -- it "wanted" some database files that must've been
> missing, or that I did not know how to create.
>
> Where can I find the Contact.DB1 and *.DB2 files for ACT!? Ýthose were the
> ones it was asking for....¨.
>
> Also, is this abandonware?  I own a copy of Act! Ýposs. 2 ... different
> versions though¨, should that be enough?
>
> This is "low priority," I may never experiment beyond just seeing what it
> looks like, booted up, on the LX screen.  I'm pretty tied to Outlook at
> work!!
>
> Should I just load the Windows Version and try to either do an export or see
> if the files install w/ the (Windows) version I can find?
>
> TIA for any help.
>
> --tim
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I found FreeCell game # 642534 a bit more difficult than usual.
I haven't had a really difficult game for several months.

I've won 708 of 709 games played.
The one I lost was that impossible game that showed up last year.

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--- Fryday  wrote:
> Perhaps Thaddeus should offer the backlight for 200$
> but include a "50$ coupon


Philippe,

That would certainly be a welcome alternative.

Somehow I seriously doubt we will see any real
discount since it seems interest in backlighting is
pretty high.

Companies will always charge whatever they think is
the highest price people are willing to pay, and
judging from the responses to my post, alot of people
think $200 is a reasonable amount.

It's too bad, becuase when you get past the research,
we are talking about adding a light bulb. (granted
this is an over simplification)

Almost makes for a good joke...

How many technicians does it take to add a light bulb?
 At what cost?

;-)

Everytime I try to justify $200 on an upgrade I think
why not put that into a new machine that already has
backlighting?  Granted DOS is a nice feature and the
100/200LX is a excellent machine, but man, $200 is
alot of bread.  I bought my 100LX for only slightly
more than that.

Also, $200 can buy a whole lot of other electronic
goodies in today's highly competitive electronics
industry.

Tough call for me, but for others it seems it is an
easy choice.

I guess they might as well make the money while they
can since demand can only drop from here now that the
200LX is discontinued (although it will take awhile)

Questor



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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:54:45 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:

> It's too bad, becuase when you get past the research, we are talking
> about adding a light bulb. (granted this is an over simplification)

That's more than an oversimplification, it's not accurate.  The "research"
is really not a big factor in this; we've known how to do it for years.
The problem is that this is an extremely labor-intensive upgrade that
takes a LOT of time to do, compared to any of the other palmtop upgrades.
The end result may be similar to "adding a light bulb," but there are
several distinct components that have to be installed in various spots in
the 200LX in order to make it work.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 05:17:29 +0100
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              Hans Peter Staber 
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Larry Berry wrote:
>
>
> I have been able to locate some previous discussion about
>  reading PDF files on
> the 200LX but can-t seem to find the answer.  I ass
> ume that Acrobat 1.0 would
> work but I can-t find it either.  Anyone out there
> reading PDF files?

This is the Adobe PDF section of my database file. Please forgive that
I do not include the references to the people who passed on the info
either here, at hphand or in the Unet.

HP Staber/Salzburg



+( Adobe Acrobat Reader *.pdf file translation

mailto:pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu
       pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu

Use the above two addresses to translate pdf files.
The first one is to translate to a text file and the
second to a html file. All you need to do is email
your file to one of these addresses and you will
receive your translation back in a couple of minutes.

> >I dont know about pdf directly, however there is a
> translation section under
> >the adobe web site.  Its under special disabilities
> (LX a disability :))

There is one thing that has worked for me with getting an encrypted pdf
exported to text.

1. install a postscript printer driver into Windows (I like the Canon
Fiery - color laser driver - mainly because I already use it.)

2. open pdf file in Acrobat

3. print pdf to file using postscript driver

4. download Ghostscript/Ghostview 5.5 from the net and install

5. use Ghostview to open your printer file created in step 3

6. use GV's text export function to extract text from file.

A couple of things to note:

1. If your pdf has multiple columns of text you are in for a lot of work
getting the file fixed.  In that case, scanning the printed doc may be a
saner option. (If you don't have a scanner, you could try faxing it to
yourself and using the fax's OCR functions)

Or use Acrobat's Access plug-in and hand select text and copy it page by
page.  (the access plug-in seems to recognize columns ok)

2.  I think there is a patch out there so that Ghostscript can open an
encrypted pdf - I don't have it so I don't know if you can skip the
printing to a postscript file in step 3.

FWIW, I think you may be ok exporting the text you've paid for to a
format you can use but you should honor the publisher's rights and not
distribute the text file to anyone else...

PDF tutorial: (I'll keep it short)

(1) All PDFs are, of course, `alike' at some level. They are all
    made up of `objects' which are pointed at structures that represent
    the pages, indexes, thumbnails, ...
(2) However, PDFs are made up of `Objects' which can be just about
    anything that Adobe chooses to support:
    (a) Fragments of PostScript, a very general purpose display language
        that requires substantial hardware or an elaborate interpreter
        to resolve;
    (b) Bit `images' in any of several formats;
    (c) Compressed versions of the above;
    (d) Encrypted versions of the above; and
    (e) Whatever else Adobe wants to support in Acrobat.

ACROBAT surely reads them all (or else Adobe is making some incredible
mistake) as .PDF was designed just for such a purpose. As a result
Acrobat (and its support .DLLs) is huge.

The Acrobat `Distiller' will translate PostScript into PDF. Lots of
programs in the `TeX' suite also will generate .PDF. IIRC, Ghostscript
will also, in some versions, generate .PDF. Last, and by no means least,
any program is welcome to create .PDFs directly, although one does have
to be quite careful to keep all of the `pointers' straight.

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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:34:40 -0700
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              Bob Meyer 
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The "Access" plugin for Acrobat 4.0 will translate pdf  to text in the convenience
of your own home without email. All available on their web site.

Bob

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+--------------------+-----------------+
|Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
+--------------------+-----------------+
|   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:11:40 -0500
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I use PC Anywhere Ver 4.5 somewhat regularly with no problems.  Lets me see
network drives at work and run apps on an old P90 running DOS and hooked to
the Network.
Now, see the upcoming  "FS" Message to follow.
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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:44:53 -0800
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              Questor Jones 
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Subject:      Re: 100/200LX backlighting
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Fair Enough.

I hope all the backlight work turns out to be
worthwhile.

I still think $200 is alot of bread to shell out for
something like this, but I must admit it is something
that would be really nice to have.

I really don't understand why HP never thought a true
200LX successor was not worth designing.  With all the
money people shell out for the various upgrades it
amazes me that they didn't have the clarity of thought
to see the 200LX as the break through machine that it
is.  Granted they produced and sold it for many years,
but they should have recognized that DOS compatibilty
was a cornerstone of the 200LX's success and built a
new machine with that in mind.

I mean a 200LX with 16MB of onboard ram, a 40MB flash
and modem combo, a color screen with backlighting, a
*much* faster processor, and a touch screen would have
instantly been a classic.  Most of this can be gotten
through 3rd parties, but the cost is insane when it is
added all up.

(okay, okay,  the cost *seems* insane to me).

In fairness, I may complain a bit, but I am glad the
third parties are there with the upgrades becuase
obviously HP isn't listening (and hasn't been for
years), so it's good that someone else is.


Questor






--- David Sargeant  wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:
>
> > It's too bad, becuase when you get past the
> research, we are talking
> > about adding a light bulb. (granted this is an
> over simplification)
>
> That's more than an oversimplification, it's not
> accurate.  The "research"
> is really not a big factor in this; we've known how
> to do it for years.
> The problem is that this is an extremely
> labor-intensive upgrade that
> takes a LOT of time to do, compared to any of the
> other palmtop upgrades.
> The end result may be similar to "adding a light
> bulb," but there are
> several distinct components that have to be
> installed in various spots in
> the 200LX in order to make it work.
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 05:33:14 -0500
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              Martin Bergvill 
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Hello there

Now that I have gotten the Nokia 7110 and my hplx to work for sms'ing
(see other message) I have ofcourse some more questions :-))

I was wondering if it is possible to add a feature to send "Sms Class 0
messages"? This message will show up directly in the display on the
receviers phone. It is also called a flashmessage. (Often used to send
a deliveryreport from the network to you).

Stefan is this possible to implement with your pdu.scr? I can use pdu
mode on the 7110 too..

My brother. which has a S25, is working on a application for Win95/98
were you can choose what type of message you want to send. If this is of
interest to you I could ask my brother to give you some pointers on how
to do this. You will also find info about Class 0 in the
sms.pdumode.pdf file from Siemens on page 10 of 15.

There is also a "terror" mode which is called TP-UDH (User Data Header)
where you can send a special sms to someones phone and turn on 3
symbols in there display. The symbols are "O_O FAX and e". These
special characters will stay in the "victims" display until you send
them a sms to turn it off.. This is also descibed in the pdf. (Search
for UDHI)

Are these things possible to implement in the scripts somehow? I have
to look into what these special messages contain. I will try to see if
I can find any more info on this..

Thanks in advance.

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway
-Palmtop friendly sig...


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Date:         Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:54:42 -0600
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              Ed Keefe 
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Questor Jones ; wrote about the backlighting
upgrade " $200 seems excessive for an option that is very common nowadays on
other PDA's "

If you're repeatedly frustrated by not being able to use the Palmtop in poor
lighting then you might agree to almost any price. The screen itself is 50%
and the labor is the other 50%--pretty standard in the repair/upgrade
business. There is no assembly line and each upgrade will be tricky. One
slip could ruin a screen and there would go the profit margin.

My concern is that folks have gotten so used to the non-backlight Palmtop
that they'd find it hard to justify the cost for something they might not
like. For instance, when I was testing the HP "holographic" screen about 4
years ago, I got the hang of turning the Palmtop to pick up any light
source. Once I got it just right, the screen looked like it was backlit. I
liked it but HP squelched the project. Their research showed that most users
didn't like it once they tried it.

For my money, the external keyboard is a better investment. Just load Mack
Baggette's 2K driver and it's plug n play time. After a couple of days I'm
thinking that I could do 90% of my work on the Palmtop again. All I'd need
would be a 56K modem and I'd retire the Win98 machine to the back of the
desk.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:41:39 -0000
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              Jon Hind 
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From:         Jon Hind 
Subject:      Re: ACT! on the LX
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This might help.

Act 2000 can send it to-do s to Outlook

You can then use the ol2lx application to get them to the built in
appointment application

Seems to work OK for me, if you don t carry over the to-dos.

jon hind

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:47:14 +0000
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              Axel Klag 
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Subject:      Re: 100/200LX backlighting
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It's shurely true that the costs for upgrading an HP100/200 with backlighting
are higher than for backlighting in a newly designed item. But 200 $ US ARE
quite lot of money.- As usual there will people who can afford this and
others who can not. I'm using the Palmtop each and every day very often,
since nearly 5 years, and I've not found anything similar yet, but I WILL not
afford 200 $ for that.

Before I forget, as a replacement for backlighting, Thaddeus is still
selling the "Pocket Reading Light"  for 24,95$. You can get exactly the same
battery-light in Germany for 1,95 German Marks, which is rather exactly 1$
US. How is this possible? In a thread (long ago) concerning this it was said,
this is because of the small market for HP-Palmtop-Items.

But maybe I'm a bit too critical of that reasons 

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:55:41 EST
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From:         Michael Berrier 
Subject:      Re: 100/200LX backlighting
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Hallo,

how far is the project going? When can we expect an answer ??

regards, Michael

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:31:29 -0600
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Subject:      Re: 100/200LX backlighting
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> For instance, when I was testing the HP "holographic" screen about 4
> years ago, I got the hang of turning the Palmtop to pick up any light
> source. Once I got it just right, the screen looked like it was backlit. I
> liked it but HP squelched the project. Their research showed that most users
> didn't like it once they tried it.

Ed:

Could you explain, for historical and technical interest, what exactly
a "holographic" palmtop screen is/was?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:18:41 -0500
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From:         Lars Hedstroem 
Subject:      Re: Fluff: FreeCell 642534
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> I found FreeCell game # 642534 a bit more difficult than usual.
> I haven't had a really difficult game for several months.
>
> I've won 708 of 709 games played.
> The one I lost was that impossible game that showed up last year.
>
> cheers... Russ


Have you ever tried this maze game in te LX?

I reached level sixty-something but then it seemed impossible to come any =
further.


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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:11:56 -0500
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              Steve Novosad 
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> From:    Stephan Goeldi 
> Subject: open.exe
>
> After my problems in opening a wk1 file using open.exe and the string
> "a:\tools\open.exe c:\_dat\file.wk1|"
> I received the suggestion, that I shall use kb128.sys.
> Before it simply displayed c:\ in A1 of Lotus 1-2-3.
> Now it displays c:\_dat\file.wk1. So there really was a keyboard buffer
 problem.
>
> But it already doesn't open the file. Is it, because I have a german LX?
> On the German LX, the menu is:
>
> /Transfer /Laden ("Laden" is "load")
>
> I don't think, that the english version is different in the characters ( /tl
> ), is it?
> Would there be any solution for this, if I located the problem correctly?
>
>  TIA
> -goe-
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From:    Longden Loo 
> Subject: Re: open.exe
>
> You may be out of luck.  English versions load the spreadsheet using /fr
> (File/Retrieve), followed by the full pathname.
>
> - Longden
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From:    Peniel Romanelli 
> Subject: Re: open.exe
>
> As Longden already wrote, the English menu selection is /fr.  I don't
> know of a work around using OPEN.EXE, but you should be able to work
> something out using KeyStuff (KS), which you have, and PNS
> (point-n-shoot).
>
> I have X-Finder set up to open WK1 files using a macro.  You could do
> the same thing with the German menu letters.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Peniel
> ------------

Stephan,

  Two ideas to try 1)  Try

"a:\tools\open.exe /trc:\_dat\file.wk1|" to stuff the German command.

  2) Rename open.exe to open.bin, load it into debug, search for the
"/FR" string, change it to "/TR", save, and rename back to open.exe.

HTH

Steve

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:46:01 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg 
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Send Your PDF document to:
acrobat to text 
It will be returned to You in text format.

I have tried Acrobat 1.0. But it will not support some of the new
Acrobat features.
So You might end up not beeing able to read the PDF file even if You
have Acrobat reader 1.0

> I have been able to locate some previous discussion about reading PDF =
files on
> the 200LX but can-t seem to find the answer.  I assume that Acrobat 1.0 =
would
> work but I can-t find it either.  Anyone out there reading PDF files?  =

> Thanks.

      /tomas moberg
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:56:44 -0600
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              Ed Keefe 
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Chris Lott  asked "Could you explain, for historical and
technical interest, what exactly a "holographic" palmtop screen is/was?"

"holographic" was the label HP hung on the project. The reflective layer to
the LCD was exceptionally sensitive to light and may even have done
something magical to amplify it.  My most vivid memory of the thing is
getting ready to leave the parking lot at work about 10pm. I opened the
Palmtop to check that I'd done everything before driving away. I aimed the
palmtop at a street light about a block away and got within the narrow
viewing angle of the screen. When I did, the screen glowed a bright, day-glo
green with dark black letters. Whoa!   In normal lighting conditions, the
screen looked like a typical Palmtop screen but it still had a narrow
viewing angle which meant that it had to be positioned just right or the
screen would have some regions in grey, others, green and yet others pink.
After a couple of weeks I didn't want to return the unit. I did however and
a couple of months later got an email that the project was killed. HP only
made a dozen or so of these 100LXs.

Enough? I tend to get wordier when I have a good keyboard.
.ed.ÝPTP¨

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:17:18 -0500
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              Perry Frayn 
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 I think this message may have been forwarded to this mailing list from
comp.sys.palmtops already. Thankyou to who ever did that. If not here goes
again.

I'm a lucky guy and own a real palmtop.  HP200LX

I have a problem with the speaker not working.  If I push with light
pressure,
roughly on the bottom of the case in the center the speaker will work.

I've had the unit apart a few times trying to figure out what the problems
is.
The point at where I am pushing is right above the two little spring contacts
for the speaker. I've tried stretching the springs just a little to see if
that will make up for the pushing.  Tightening the case screws in different
patterns. Everything I could think of. Is there a trick I'm missing here. I
only took the case apart to solve this problem. (The problem was not self
induced.)

I've tried cleaning the contacts with alcohol as suggested from a member of
this group. Thank you, but no joy.

Anyone else have this problem.

regards , Perry Frayn

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:58:37 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Daniel Hertrich 
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Hi friends,

Philippe Fryday wrote:
> http://www.digitalpaths.com/
>
> Could we use this service for better surfing experience with WWW/LX or
> others?

Sounds promising: I visited the web site and followed the instructions
"how to use" it, but when I enter
www.digitalpaths.net
I only get a page containing
Digital Paths
-------------
Brining you more of the net.

where the last line is a link to www.digitalpaths.com.

Does anyone know how to use digitalpaths?

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:52:32 -0800
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              Ashwin Balan 
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From:         Ashwin Balan 
Subject:      Re: 100/200LX backlighting
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Is this the same screen that was used on the Omnigo 120 series Palmtops?

----------
> From: Ed Keefe 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: 100/200LX backlighting
> Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:56 AM
>
> Chris Lott  asked "Could you explain, for historical and
> technical interest, what exactly a "holographic" palmtop screen is/was?"
>
> "holographic" was the label HP hung on the project. The reflective layer
to
> the LCD was exceptionally sensitive to light and may even have done
> something magical to amplify it.  My most vivid memory of the thing is
> getting ready to leave the parking lot at work about 10pm. I opened the
> Palmtop to check that I'd done everything before driving away. I aimed
the
> palmtop at a street light about a block away and got within the narrow
> viewing angle of the screen. When I did, the screen glowed a bright,
day-glo
> green with dark black letters. Whoa!   In normal lighting conditions, the
> screen looked like a typical Palmtop screen but it still had a narrow
> viewing angle which meant that it had to be positioned just right or the
> screen would have some regions in grey, others, green and yet others
pink.
> After a couple of weeks I didn't want to return the unit. I did however
and
> a couple of months later got an email that the project was killed. HP
only
> made a dozen or so of these 100LXs.
>
> Enough? I tend to get wordier when I have a good keyboard.
> .ed.ÝPTP¨
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:58:36 -0600
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> > I found FreeCell game # 642534 a bit more difficult than usual.
> > I haven't had a really difficult game for several months.
> >
> > I've won 708 of 709 games played.
> > The one I lost was that impossible game that showed up last year.
> >
> > cheers... Russ
>
>
> Have you ever tried this maze game in te LX?
>
> I reached level sixty-something but then it seemed impossible to
> come any further.


Lars, what maze game are you talking about?

Ted

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:26:36 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Ed Keefe wrote:

> Enough? I tend to get wordier when I have a good keyboard.

Hey, some of us do just fine with the 200LX keyboard, thanks.  

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:41:33 -0600
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              Barry Marks 
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>My understanding (regarding Microsoft's products) is
>that the academic pricing version and the retail
>version are the same in functionality, it's just that
>the academic version is only "allowed" to be used by
>students and staff of a university (and a few other
>specific groups).  I suggest getting the retail
>version so you don't get into legal snafus with
>Microsoft about the licence when you release your
>product, especially if it is going to be a commercial
>endeavor.  You can read more about the specifics of th
>licences at Microsoft's site.

In the case of MSVC the academic version leaves out a lot of features, most
notable of which is the optimizer.

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> Questor Jones wrote:
> > Cost will be in the neighborhood of $200.
> >>That's what I thought.  Seems way too high for me
> >>considering that I could buy a lightly used 200LX for
> >>that kind of money.
>
> Not until prolink and johnnydean go away !!

What are the going prices for used 200's?

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:59:55 +0100
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              Sidney Ho 
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About a week to ten days ago I recall a thread from someone posting comments
about file corruption--supposedly caused by Software Carousel. I must have
accidentally deleted the post because I couldn't find it again.

I've been actually thinking about buying Software Carousel and would like to
know if it increases data/file or database file corruption probability? If
so, is there any particular reason or work around? Are there any files more
readily corrupted than others? If corrupted can Garlic (or some other
utility) readily repair damaged files?

Thanks for any help. This is kind of important because the great Phonebook/
Database are my main reasons for sticking with the LX. But, like some of you
I'm a little "bored" too so either I spruce it up or...


---
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:48:32 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Sidney Ho wrote:

> I've been actually thinking about buying Software Carousel and would
> like to know if it increases data/file or database file corruption
> probability? If so, is there any particular reason or work around? Are
> there any files more readily corrupted than others? If corrupted can
> Garlic (or some other utility) readily repair damaged files?

The only time SC will corrupt your data files is if you open the same file
up in more than one work area.  This doesn't happen often, especially if
you don't run more than one copy of SysMan.  There were a few other bugs,
but they were corrected in the new version.

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:06:25 -0500
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              Bob Penick 
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Friends,
Sorry to take so long to write the second letter.  We have had one of the
largest snowfalls I can remember here in South Carolina and the power went
out while I was typing the second message.
I've been scavenging and have some older DOS software and manuals to sell.
I have 8 to ten copies of PC Anywhere version 4.5 shrink-wrapped to sell.
This is the last version that didn't need a 286 to run.  Besides the remote
control features this will also do similar tasks to ProComm Plus.  (Dialup
and Terminal emulation)
I have about the same number of WordPerfect 5.1 documentation sets for sale
as well.  Some are in the ring binder format and some are the paperback
binding.  I think one or two have the diskettes in the box as well.
I have 3 or 4 copies of Lotus documentation from versions 2.2 to 2.4.  All
are in paperback bindings and I don't think there are any diskettes.
I have a couple sets of FoxPro 2.6 documentation.  I think there must be
about 10 books in each box.
The sum is I would like to sell these things and don't know what they are
worth.  I will probably put the remainder on eBay but would like to offer
them to my listmates first.  Email me offers off list, but remember that
shipping on the WordPerfect, Lotus, and especially the Foxpro will be
expensive.  The PC Anywhere can probably be sent anywhere in the US in a
Priority Mail box for $3.20.  Also, considering that these are at least 5
years old, not everything that came in the boxes may be there.  I can't
guarantee that keyboard overlays etc. are in these used boxes.  But they
seem to have all the books.
Now I also have crossed paths with someone that has a bunch of the cases
that were shipped with (?) the HP 600 series (almost) palmtop.  These are
similar to the Palmtree cases Thaddeus sells for the lx series EXCEPT that
leatherette instead of leather, belt loop instead of belt clip, larger to
fit the 600 series, and they are imprinted with the HP logo and the words
Hewlett Packard.  Inside is a tag that says they are manufactured by Targus.
She wants $8.00 each for them.  I have my 200 in one and while a little
loose there is room for an extra set of batteries and the three cards I
carry with me.  Email her to buy at jetune@netscape.net
Sorry to intrude

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:11:35 -0500
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              Bob Penick 
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While I have your attention.  Does anyone know how to make the hangman game
on the HP95 dictionary card run on a 200lx?  I can get the other stuff to
work but the key combination that would bring up hangman on the 95 is
directed to notetaker instead.  I haven't been able the game to run any
other way (filer, command line, etc.).
Thanks,
bob

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:17:33 -0800
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Someone was saying something about using plastic wrap (or similar) to keep the
Rex-3 in his pocket but I cannot locate the post anymore. Could the one please
send his post to me? Thanks.

Ron

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:37:19 +0100
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              Helge Holm 
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Can you tell me where and how I can buy one? I live in Norway.

Helge
-----Original Message-----
From: Axel Klag 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
Date: 25. januar 2000 13:48
Subject: Re: 100/200LX backlighting


>It's shurely true that the costs for upgrading an HP100/200 with
backlighting
>are higher than for backlighting in a newly designed item. But 200 $ US ARE
>quite lot of money.- As usual there will people who can afford this and
>others who can not. I'm using the Palmtop each and every day very often,
>since nearly 5 years, and I've not found anything similar yet, but I WILL
not
>afford 200 $ for that.
>
>Before I forget, as a replacement for backlighting, Thaddeus is still
>selling the "Pocket Reading Light"  for 24,95$. You can get exactly the
same
>battery-light in Germany for 1,95 German Marks, which is rather exactly 1$
>US. How is this possible? In a thread (long ago) concerning this it was
said,
>this is because of the small market for HP-Palmtop-Items.
>
>But maybe I'm a bit too critical of that reasons 
>
>Axel
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:46:29 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff 
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On 25 Jan 2000 13:18:28 -0800, Bob Penick  wrote:

> While I have your attention.  Does anyone know how to make the hangman game
> on the HP95 dictionary card run on a 200lx?

If it's an EXM, you should be able to add it to Application
Manager and run it from there.

If anyone is after a free hangman game, incidentally,
there's a *fantastic* one just here:
http://games.hplx.net/games/downloads/hangman.zip (45 KB)

Well, OK, I wrote it myself... but it's not that bad! 
One nice feature is that you can specify a text file and the
game will use that file as its dictionary, automagically
using only proper words!

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:08:31 -0600
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              Ted Brown 
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>About a week to ten days ago I recall a thread from someone posting
comments
>about file corruption--supposedly caused by Software Carousel. I must have
>accidentally deleted the post because I couldn't find it again.
>

Yes, I managed to corrupt my apointment file but I don't think that it was
because of Software Carousel, at least not directly!  I was trying to
install Hisword and in switching workareas I got so lost I had to reboot.  I
know that I had my .adb file open twice because one appearance showed a
recent entry that did not appear in the other entry.
Thanks to someone pointing me to Garlic, I was able to restore the file OK.
I now have Hisword working from DOS again, but am still unable to get it to
run from SC.   I get a 'cannot execute' message.

Here's my SC setup:
  Work Area Name: Hisword
  Work Area Size : 350K
  Work Area Key : 4
  Work Area Startup  Command List :  c:\hw.bat

hw.bat contains:
    @echo off
cls
c:
cd\hisword
hisword.exe

Another problem I'm having with SC may or may not have any bearing on the
above.  Occasionally when switching from one area to another, I get a screen
of nothing but wide vertical lines.  If you press any key, the program
running responds as normal, but the lines stay for the duration.
Does anyone have any idea ? I'm convinced that SC is well worth the effort
needed to get used to it but don't know what to do next.

Thanks
Ted Brown
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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:56:31 -0500
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I'm not having much luck on this speaker problem. Heaven knows I've put the
time in.



I'm wondering if anyone knows where you could buy a new bottom for the HP
200 LX.

Actually even a used one from a damaged unit.

regards, Perry

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:41:21 -0800
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              Fryday 
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I've seen some lcd watches with this kind of reflective layer...

Is this something that could be put instead of the backlight for cheaper,
perhaps?

Philippe


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Keefe" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: 100/200LX backlighting


> Chris Lott  asked "Could you explain, for historical and
> technical interest, what exactly a "holographic" palmtop screen is/was?"
>
> "holographic" was the label HP hung on the project. The reflective layer
to
> the LCD was exceptionally sensitive to light and may even have done
> something magical to amplify it.  My most vivid memory of the thing is
> getting ready to leave the parking lot at work about 10pm. I opened the
> Palmtop to check that I'd done everything before driving away. I aimed the
> palmtop at a street light about a block away and got within the narrow
> viewing angle of the screen. When I did, the screen glowed a bright,
day-glo
> green with dark black letters. Whoa!   In normal lighting conditions, the
> screen looked like a typical Palmtop screen but it still had a narrow
> viewing angle which meant that it had to be positioned just right or the
> screen would have some regions in grey, others, green and yet others pink.
> After a couple of weeks I didn't want to return the unit. I did however
and
> a couple of months later got an email that the project was killed. HP only
> made a dozen or so of these 100LXs.
>
> Enough? I tend to get wordier when I have a good keyboard.
> .ed.ÝPTP¨
>
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>

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:59:00 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Fryday wrote:

> Is this something that could be put instead of the backlight for
> cheaper, perhaps?

Probably not.  The labor would pretty much be the same...

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 02:23:06 -0500
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              Martin Bergvill 
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Hello there..

I have been playing around with the sms/phonescript for Robot/lx.

I could not get the sms script to work as it should. In a series of
smsmessages I could not transfer all of them to the hplx. The first one
was always left behind in the phone. (or so I thought:-)

Well I found out that the 7110 uses the sms memory on the card even
though I have choosen the "Phonememory". It uses the simcard to store
incoming message(s) and outgoing messages for some unknown reason.

I do not know in what pattern this is being done or what rules apply. I
have messages in the outbox which is not on the card.. But I think that
the phone stores some incoming sms on the card and the rest on the phone.

I solved this problem by running Robot/LX with 2 different cfg's. One
which downloads messages from sim memory and one which downloads from
phonememory. I do this by running a second robot session at the end of
the first sms script. (With !robot2 sms2)

I hope Nokia will release a full spec of the Nokia 7110 so I can
understand how this storing of sms's really works.

The phone.scr works, but it will only transfer the phonenumber which is
choosen as the standard. The phonebook on the 7110 can store 5 numbers
and email/address/note for each of the 1000 names in the phonebook.

The rest of the info per name should be accessible too..but I do not
know how yet.

The 7110 also works without problems with the Hplx for mail/news via
Ir/www/lx..

Bye..

--
Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway
-Palmtop friendly sig...

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 03:15:35 -0500
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Maze game?  Do you mean Sokoban?  I've played it but not for a long
time.  I don't think I ever got over level 25.

cheers... Russ

Lars Hedstroem wrote:
> > I found FreeCell game # 642534 a bit more difficult than usual.
> > I haven't had a really difficult game for several months.
> >
> > I've won 708 of 709 games played.
> > The one I lost was that impossible game that showed up last year.
> >
> > cheers... Russ
>
> Have you ever tried this maze game in te LX?
>
> I reached level sixty-something but then it seemed impossible to come any
> further.
>
> Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:04:12 +0100
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Hi!

I in the process of converting the PAL Library to X11=2E Yes - It's creazy, but
also it is a good training for converting the Library later to NanoGui Toolkit:=20=


http://microwindows=2Ecensoft=2Ecom/

This could then be a possible basis for writing small apps for small Linux
ELKS/Linux CE palmtops or such=2E

I got the pm tool running and use the =2Eini-file-functions of PAL in one of my
Unix projects=2E But nearly all the other stuff is stripped in the moment=2E

My biggest problem is the documentation one=2E I need to be closer to the changed
code with my documentation - otherwise I will forget, what I have changed=2E So m=
y
idea was to put all the function related documentation in the source itself and
then use the ROBODo tool to get a documentation out of it:

http://www=2Exs4all=2Enl/~rfsber/Robo/

Will this be a way? What do you think? Otherwise, it could be possible, if I
would continue the "proprietory" way of using Norton Guides for the
documentation=2E But I have no Idea of how to compile them and how they work=2E

Martin
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:02:09 +10
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              Alain 
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hi,
There is some shareware for compiling a text to a NG file.
I think you can find AXGDC on simtel.
They also have a norton reader for free

hope this will help.
regards

Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:32:48 -0500
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              Daniel Hertrich 
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Hi perry,

Perry Frayn wrote:
> I have a problem with the speaker not working.  If I push with light
> pressure,
> roughly on the bottom of the case in the center the speaker will work.
>
> I've tried cleaning the contacts with alcohol as suggested from a member of
> this group. Thank you, but no joy.

That was I.
(BTW: What is right here? My English teacher told me to say 'that was
I', but everytime I read something like that in this list, you all say
'that was me'. What's up here???)

Another suggestion:
Remove the two springs that make the contacts to the motherboard and
solder two very thin but well isolated wires between the contacts of
the speaker and the contacts on the motherboard. If the speaker isn't
out of order, this should work.
But be extremely careful that you don't place the wires this way that
they hang around in the area of the PCMCIA slot - when you inserted a
PCMCIA card you could damage the wires, and theat could maybe damage
the whole palmtop!

GTX
daniel

--

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homepage:                  http://daniel.hplx.net
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Hi friends,

Axel Klag wrote:
> Before I forget, as a replacement for backlighting, Thaddeus is still
> selling the "Pocket Reading Light"  for 24,95$. You can get exactly the same
> battery-light in Germany for 1,95 German Marks, which is rather exactly 1$

It _is_ the same light. I sent a picture of such a light to Mitch
(if I remember right) (he was selling this light at that time), and he
agreed that it is exactly the same light.

But don't forget the "LED light" as a replacement for backlight! ;-)
I won't sell them any more, because I don't have enough time to make
these lights, but you can find the instructions for making this light
on my home page daniel.hplx.net/palmtop.html .
I use this LED light now for almost 1 year, and I'm _very_ pleased with
it. Draws power out of the serial port, plugs into the serial port,
reduces battery life only by approx. 10%, enlightens the entire screen
quite even,

GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

I would like to sell a SRAM card, 2MB, made by SCM.
It's in very good condition, except of the battery that has to be
replaced.

If you're interested, please write me (off list) what the card would be
worth for you - I'll sell it to the person who's bidding the most for
it.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 05:41:37 -0500
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> > Have you ever tried this maze game in te LX?
> >
> > I reached level sixty-something but then it seemed impossible to
> > come any further.
>
> Lars, what maze game are you talking about?
>
> Ted

>Maze game?  Do you mean Sokoban?  I've played it but not for a >long
>time.  I don't think I ever got over level 25.
>cheers... Russ


The game built in to the HP200.You are caught in an underwater maze with =
squids wandering it.

I reached level 60 something after heavy work,there was one level which =
seemed totally impossible to come through.

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>> (BTW: What is right here? My English teacher told me to say 'that was
>> I', but everytime I read something like that in this list, you all say=

>> 'that was me'. What's up here???)

Of course your English teacher is correct. You've learned proper English.=

What you get in conversation and email is usually something less. On the
one hand, the message is what matters, not the grammar. On the other hand=
,
the average American is not very well versed in proper English and totall=
y
ignorant of foreign languages. What a joy it must be to know a second (or=

third) language.

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>>But don't forget the "LED light" as a replacement for backlight! ;-)
>>I won't sell them any more, because I don't have enough time to make
>>these lights, but you can find the instructions for making this light
>>on my home page daniel.hplx.net/palmtop.html .

Daniel, of course you are correct. However, I don't mind paying $24.95 if=

I'm just too busy to make my own light. It's nice to have options!

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Date:         Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:29:29 -0600
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David Sargeant replied to >> Enough? I tend to get wordier when I have a
good keyboard.

with  >Hey, some of us do just fine with the 200LX keyboard, thanks.  

What can I say?  Blessed are those with finger dexterity for they shall not
lose all their marbles.

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Martin Bergvill wrote:

> I was wondering if it is possible to add a feature to send "Sms Class 0
> messages"? This message will show up directly in the display...
>
> Stefan is this possible to implement with your pdu.scr? I can use pdu
> mode on the 7110 too..

Did you try PDU.SCR with the Nokia 7110? I ask, because other
Nokia phones didn't work with my PDU program, but all pretended
to talk PDU.

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On 26 Jan 2000 02:43:33 -0800, Lars Hedstroem  wrote:

> > Lars, what maze game are you talking about?
>
> >Maze game?  Do you mean Sokoban?  I've played it but not for a >long
> >time.  I don't think I ever got over level 25.
> >cheers... Russ
>
> The game built in to the HP200.You are caught in an underwater maze with squids wandering it.

It's called Lair of Squid and the reason for the confusion
is that I think it's only found in non-US palmtops - from
what I remember, there was some ROM space going spare...
Have a look for D:\BIN\Maze.exe and see if you have it.

Don't worry if you can't find it - you're not missing much!

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 06:49:33 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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Your grammar's fine.

Email and mailing lists are probably not a good proving ground for new English
(or any language) skills.

When it comes to these stomping grounds, a minefield of acronyms, abbreviations
and dangling prepositions, you just have to close your eyes and remind yourself
that ...  "Shakespeare we ain't" .

- Longden

PS Actually, Shakespeare took a lot of liberties himself with the language ...
maybe a lesson?





Daniel Hertrich  on 01/26/2000 02:32:48 AM

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That was I.
(BTW: What is right here? My English teacher told me to say 'that was
I', but everytime I read something like that in this list, you all say
'that was me'. What's up here???)

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Hi There!

I have installed Rod Whitby's network connection package- lxmnc10b.zip
and it works great with my Accton card. But I have one problem which I
hope you can help me with.

The palmtop can access shared drives on the PC, but the PC can't "see"
the palmtop. When I run NET-UP.BAT I get following message:

"Shared resourses at \\HP200LX
There are no entries in the list."

So obviously it is something I have not configured- "the list". Could
anyone please inform me how this is done.


Looking forward to a reply!

Thanks and Regards,


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Last night one of my dogs caused me to perform the famous four foot drop
test on my LX.  While editing a program I have been working on, I dropped
the open machine.  After shutting everything down and rebooting, the LX
worked fine but the display half separated from the keyboard on the left
side.  The metal clips were exposed and after removing the batteries, the
plastic clips could clearly be seen.  Two of the plastic clips were
disengaged.  By applying moderate force on the two halves of the case, at
the hinge, with the LX closed, I was able to snap everything back into
place.  I am greatly relieved and thank those who have posted fixes for
this problem.

=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=A4=20
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For the past several months I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to get my
Win98 laptop (HP OBXE) to connect with my Palmtop. I was able to get CPack
to run on the laptop but whenever I tried using the CPack's Filer
application to connect to the Ptop it failed. Bummer!

However, yesterday, I discovered the problem. Apparently I have a faulty HP
port replicator. Once I took the port replicator (docking station) out of
the circuit and plugged the connectivity cable into the laptop's serial
port, the Palmtop responded. I can now use the serial port to transfer
files.

I tried using ZIP.COM but my favorite file transfer program put garbage on
the screen and crashed the laptop. I also tried using REMKEY but that
program told me that it was an "inconsistent version". (Nonsense: I had just
copied the program from the Palmtop to the laptop via Filer. )

Has anyone been able to get REMKEY to work on a Win98 machine? On my older,
DOS computer, REMKEY worked quite well and let me use the Palmtop's apps
almost as if they were applications on the desktop.
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Fryday ,Philippe, asked about the holographic screen:
"Is this something that could be put instead of the backlight for cheaper,
perhaps?"

Perhaps it would be cheaper. However, the first challenge would be to find a
manufacturer who produces "holographic" screens (or even the reflective
layers) in the right size for the right price. The second challenge would be
convincing users that this is a good solution. I might buy one but, as far
as I know, I was the only beta tester who liked the screen. If HP's research
told them it was a loser, it would be foolhardy to invest in such a
solution. To be more complete, I should also mention that I didn't like the
screen's narrow viewing angle during the first week of testing. I had some
good experiences that tipped the scales from dislike to like. Others may not
have had such experiences.
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:00:03 -0500
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Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:52:45 -0500 (EST)

Hi gang -

We've had several posts about the squid game in the palmtop.  If you
don't know about it already, there's an easter egg hidden in the game.
As soon as you start it, type "gallery" (without the quotes) and you'll
see photos of the HP-LX development team on the walls of the maze.
Sadly, I've forgotten who's who...  Somebody posted the info quite a
while back.


Later

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:03:21 -0500
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Tom Salwasser wrote:

> Of course your English teacher is correct. You've learned proper =
English. > What you get in conversation and email is usually something =
less. On the > one hand, the message is what matters, not the grammar. On =
the other hand > ,> the average American is not very well versed in =
proper English

But you know we europeans have neurotic memories from punishing english =
teachers from childhood, that's why we are so anxious about using the =
right grammar 

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:07:37 +0100
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Have you shared your palmtop's resources?
On the palmtop, type the command
net share whatever=c:\

After this " find computer " on the desktop  shouls show you c:\ as shared
resource on your palmtop.

the net share /?  command on the palmtop will give more details. I'm
writing this from memory, 'cause I left my palmtop home(booh);

If it doesn't help, do ask again.

HTH

Etienne Lemaire
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Network Connection- Shared Resourses...
Date: mercredi 26 janvier 2000 16:13

Hi There!

I have installed Rod Whitby's network connection package- lxmnc10b.zip
and it works great with my Accton card. But I have one problem which I
hope you can help me with.

The palmtop can access shared drives on the PC, but the PC can't "see"
the palmtop. When I run NET-UP.BAT I get following message:

"Shared resourses at \\HP200LX
There are no entries in the list."

So obviously it is something I have not configured- "the list". Could
anyone please inform me how this is done.


Looking forward to a reply!

Thanks and Regards,


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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:16:21 -0800
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Hello,

I tried a 660lx in the store once and wasn't very
impressed with the software (but the screen color was
very nice).

I was wondering if anyone here has purchased one of
these and what they though about it?

It's hard to get a real feel for a machine in a store
environment, so I thought perhaps I had not given the
660LX a fair chance.

Please feel free to be as detailed as possible
regarding it's pluses and minuses.  (You can email it
to me directly if you feel it is too long for this
newsgroup).

Thanks.
Questor

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Stefan wrote:

> Martin Bergvill wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if it is possible to add a feature to send "Sms Class 0
> > messages"? This message will show up directly in the display...
> >
> > Stefan is this possible to implement with your pdu.scr? I can use pdu
> > mode on the 7110 too..
>
> Did you try PDU.SCR with the Nokia 7110? I ask, because other
> Nokia phones didn't work with my PDU program, but all pretended
> to talk PDU.

I have not tested it yet. I will test it today or tomorrow.. I have a
helpfile which describes the text and pdu mode of the nokiaphone. But I
guess you have seen this and still have not gotten it to work? I found
it at forum.nokia.com under Download on Nokia Cellular Data Suite. Its
a windows helpfile.

I will report to the list about how your pdu work on my 7110

TIA

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Hello..

I use my accton En 2216-2 at home and at the university.

At home I have no problem connecting and disconnecting to my home
network.

But at the university I have no problem connecting, but when I exits
Post/lx after being online for a while the Hplx chrashes. I have to do
a ctrl+shift+on to make it work again.

What can this be?

This is what I run prior to Post/lx:

g:
cd \
cd usr
lxcic
lxen2216 0x66
dhcp
call ip-up
e:
cd \
cd w
Www isp_Ppp3

The hplx freezes when the command prompt should just flash by and bring
me back to the applicationmenu. The above batchfile is run with maxdos.

I suspect that it is a config.sys problem of some sort?

Here is my config.sys:

files=30
buffers=10
stacks=8,64
device=a:\progs\jam\jam.sys /M=2
device=a:\usr\spd31.exe
device=a:\progs\jam\jmount.com a:\pack2
device=a:\progs\jam\jmount.com c:\pack1
rem device=a:\progs\jam\jmount.com a:\pack3
shell=d:\dos\command.com /p d:\dos
Lastdrive=h

Tomas have you had this problem?

TIA

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-- Lars Hedstroem  wrote:
> Tom Salwasser wrote:
>
> > Of course your English teacher is correct. You've
> learned proper English. > What you get in
> conversation and email is usually something less. On
> the > one hand, the message is what matters, not the
> grammar. On the other hand > ,> the average American
> is not very well versed in proper English

Whatchu mean?  I gots me good englits.


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Peniel wrote:

a> Hi gang -
> We've had several posts about the squid game in the palmtop.  If you > =
don't know about it already, there's an easter egg hidden in the game.> =
As soon as you start it, type "gallery" (without the quotes) and you'll > =
see photos of the HP-LX development team on the walls of the maze.> =
Sadly, I've forgotten who's who...  Somebody posted the info quite a
> while back.

Yes,you are bloody right,7 photos and there was a woman to!

And also this text came up on the right wall:

"Very special thanks to all the people in HP and all the companies that =
made this palmtop possible.


          The Felix S/W Team"

Here is one guy here on the list who have a signature about HP200lx =
team,is he on the wall?Or perhaps it is not that team.


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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:57:33 -0500
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Mike wrote:


> It's called Lair of Squid and the reason for the confusion
> is that I think it's only found in non-US palmtops - from
> what I remember, there was some ROM space going spare...
> Have a look for D:\BIN\Maze.exe and see if you have it.

Yes you are right,the name is Lair of Squid.

So it is only found in non-US palmtops,perhaps that is why Avi was so =
angry when I asked him about it 


> Don't worry if you can't find it - you're not missing much!


I agree but the graphics is quite good,I tried some games on the SUPER =
but their graphics were horrible.

I have never been to your page,though.But I will if you have a  good =
graphics and exciting game to recommend?


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>Another suggestion:
>Remove the two springs that make the contacts to the motherboard and
>solder two very thin but well isolated wires between the contacts of
>the speaker and the contacts on the motherboard. If the speaker isn't
>out of order, this should work.
>But be extremely careful that you don't place the wires this way that
>they hang around in the area of the PCMCIA slot - when you inserted a
>PCMCIA card you could damage the wires, and theat could maybe damage
>the whole palmtop!
>
>GTX
>daniel
>
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Thanks Daniel,

The speaker is working ok, but only with pressue on the back of the case.

I thought of this also. The problem here is that the speaker is mounted to
the bottom half of the case by little plastic tabs that are melted down to
secure the speaker. I would have to melt these tabs and then figure out a
way to resecure the speaker once completed. The contacts for the speaker
appear to be between the bottom of the case and the speaker itself.

I also thought of cutting the leads that go under the speaker and soldering
on to them. The problem here is I believe the leads are made of stainless
steel. That kinda make the soldering part hard. I'm also worried that the
leads may have a simular spring contact under the speaker. If I cut them ,
the end under the speaker might want to float around and not sit in the
correct positon.


I spent a good 6 hours (again) on it last night with no luck. I've tried a
few things suggested from the group. Thanks guys. I even tried cutting out
little card board spacers to place under the springs. Cleaning the gold
contacts on the M/B. Cleaning the ends of the springs. Warping the case.
Lightly trimming a few of the plastic stand offs in the area to allow the
case to close a little tighter.

I'll be at it again tonight. I will not quit.   :)

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As a culturally challenged American, I have some questions regarding language in
Europe, if this list can indulge me:

- Is English taught in Europe as a required academic course?
For most Americans, it's optional.  And many of us struggle (and successfully
maim) the one language we have.

- Is there a practical, daily reason for the average European to know English?
While there are many opportunities to use a 2nd language in the US, they are
usually non-essential.  The average person could spend their entire life in the
US needing nothing more than English in order to live.  Hence the motivation to
learn a 2nd language usually comes from academic requirements or purely personal
reasons (ie, how to speak to your in-laws).

- Are other languages taught with similar emphasis?

- Do the British place similar emphasis on learning a 2nd language (ie, other
than English)?

It's difficult for me to imagine any people wanting to inflict the English
language (with apologies to the Brits) on a non-English speaking people unless
there were major practical concerns.  I imagine that English has saturated the
global markets in terms of being used as a  language for commerce.  But I just
wondered how much English does the average child need to know, and encounter on
a daily basis, in non-English speaking countries.

Thanks.

- Longden





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But you know we europeans have neurotic memories from punishing english teachers
from childhood, that's why we are so anxious about using the right grammar 

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Mitch Hamm asked me if I knew who the hidden folks are in Laird of Squid
(type "Gallery" at first screen and up arrow).

I sent his question to Everett (below): and got this response:


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Anyone have tips on performing hex formatting of numbers from within
Lotus-123?  Maybe some sort of add-in?

-Chris

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>- Is English taught in Europe as a required academic course?
>For most Americans, it's optional.

I meant that a 2nd language (besides English) is often optional in the US.

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Longden wrote:

> As a culturally challenged American, I have some questions regarding =
language in
> Europe, if this list can indulge me:

As one of the helpful "work-horses" on the list I am sure the list can =
indulge you.

I can not give you a complete answer on your questions but some I think =
we can work out,and my answers is from a swedish point of view.

> - Is English taught in Europe as a required academic course?

In Sweden only in some courses with clear international profile.Like EU =
courses for example.

I was a drop out from a Master of Chemical Engineering and the first book =
we got was a 500pages thick chemistrybook.It was anticipated that we had =
learn enough english in highschool to understand such english.It was =
tough in the beginning but later on it got better.

> - Is there a practical, daily reason for the average European to know =
English?


If you want to surf on Internet and  deal with computers,the answer =
is:YES!If not,no.

Ofcourse if you live in a touristcentre perhaps there is a daily reason,fo=
r example in southern Europe.

>
> - Are other languages taught with similar emphasis?


In Sweden the number one language before the second world war was German,a=
fter that it became English.(i.e. you also won the languagewar)

The second language in Sweden is German and that is due to the fact that =
we are so economically involved with Germany.

I have studied german but I know english much much better.The german =
grammar is horrible.

> - Do the British place similar emphasis on learning a 2nd language (ie, =
other > than English)?

I don't think so...but perhaps it is better that some english guy answers =
that question.

But I can tell you that 10 years ago almost no one in France or Germany =
wanted to speak english even if they could.This wasn't lightened until =
the nineties.

The nationalistic rivalry was so big and still is.

But there is one major reason to learn english,if you go abroad what =
language will you use?You would be very handicapped if you only knew =
swedish.

And one more reason,swedish is a little language and far from all books =
is translated.A ocean of new titles is accesible if you learn english.

I hope I could give you some good answers.

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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On 26 Jan 2000 09:13:22 -0800, Longden Loo  wrote:

> - Is English taught in Europe as a required academic course?
> For most Americans, it's optional.  And many of us struggle (and successfully
> maim) the one language we have.

In the UK, it's obligatory until the age of 16.

> - Is there a practical, daily reason for the average European to know English?

For us Brits, it helps! ;-)

> While there are many opportunities to use a 2nd language in the US, they are
> usually non-essential.  The average person could spend their entire life in the
> US needing nothing more than English in order to live.  Hence the motivation to
> learn a 2nd language usually comes from academic requirements or purely personal
> reasons (ie, how to speak to your in-laws).

It's more or less the same in Britain. Most Brits don't feel
any need to learn a second language.

> - Do the British place similar emphasis on learning a 2nd language (ie, other
> than English)?

It's a requirement to learn a second language (usually French
or German) up to the age of 16.

> It's difficult for me to imagine any people wanting to inflict the English
> language (with apologies to the Brits) on a non-English speaking people unless
> there were major practical concerns.  I imagine that English has saturated the
> global markets in terms of being used as a  language for commerce.  But I just
> wondered how much English does the average child need to know, and encounter on
> a daily basis, in non-English speaking countries.

As a Brit, I'm not best qualified to answer this one, but I
reckon that it's mainly through the media that English does
its "invading". For instance, I have a Finnish friend who
speaks perfect English mainly because she watched lots of
US/British TV and films as a child.

Whether English (language) programmes are dubbed or
sub-titled probably makes a large difference. For instance,
in France, most English stuff is dubbed from what I saw. As
far as I know, most Nordic countries go with sub-titles.

As a rule of thumb, I reckon that the further south in
Europe you go, the less and less English people speak. For
example:

Scandinavian countries: English level - generally excellent.
Holland: generally excellent.
Germany: generally very good.
France: generally OK.
Spain/Italy/Greece: generally pretty poor.

(Use stereotypes? Me? Never! )

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:29:28 -0500
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On 26 Jan 2000 08:59:38 -0800, Lars Hedstroem  wrote:

> > Don't worry if you can't find it - you're not missing much!
> I agree but the graphics is quite good,I tried some games on the SUPER but their graphics were horrible.
> I have never been to your page,though.But I will if you have a  good graphics and exciting game to recommend?

Never been to my page?! In that case, you're not invited! 

But, if you decide to visit anyway, for great graphics and
gameplay, I would recommend the following:

 -Commander Keen 4 (platformer)
  http://games.hplx.net/games/downloads/keen4c.zip (548 KB)

 -Electrobody (platformer)
  http://games.hplx.net/games/downloads/ebody.zip (322 KB)

 -Galactic Battle (shoot-em-up)
  http://games.hplx.net/games/downloads/gb.zip (48 KB)

But all the games that I have available for download are worth
trying out in my opinion! They might not be the ultimate
graphics-wise, but special recommendations go to:

 -Bowling Champ (ten-pin bowling sim, best in multiplayer)
  http://games.hplx.net/games/downloads/bowl.zip (27 KB)

 -Goal (excellent soccer management sim)
  http://games.hplx.net/games/downloads/goal.zip (135 KB)

 -Tetlix (my favourite Tetris clone. If anyone knows (or is)
the author, please get in touch!)
  http://games.hplx.net/games/downloads/tetlix.zip (11 KB)

For the complete list, just hop over to
http://games.hplx.net/games/downloads/index.htm - you'll find
at least one game you like, guaranteed!

Also, check out the Info & Reviews pages for a huge list of
old DOS games that work on the LX, and information on them.
See http://games.hplx.net/games/info/index.htm for details.

Final point (I promise!): For the more cultured
palmtopper(s?!), there's also a literature section where you
can find info on how to turn you expensive LX into a... book!
A small collection of literary classics and the required
software to read them can all found by going to
http://games.hplx.net/literature/index.htm.

And if you're still bored, you can have a laugh by looking
at AltaVista's attempted translations of the site! :-)

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:02:38 -0000
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While not wanting to be accused of xenophoby I've to say that in
Spain there not much will in speaking other languages.
Has you must know although Portuguese and Spanish are different
languages its common roots allow us to understand each other.
When a portuguese visits Spain does his/her best to try to speak
in a "language" we call "portanhol" (from portugues and espanhol) a
mixture of portuguese and spanish words chosen in accord with
the knowledge we have of spanish.

I've yet to see a Spaniard to try to speak portuguese when visiting
Portugal.

In Portugal a second language is mandatory in first five years of
high school (from 10/11 to 16). In my times it was French with
English also mandatory after the 3rd. year. Now the kids can
choose beetween French and English. But they don't excel at it: I
teach Macroeconomics at the undergraduate level in an University
and had to write my own manual because my students complained
about the manuals, all in English, I included in the bibliography.

But all in all the young portuguese has, more or less, a working
knowledge of a second language.

In my case, apart academic reasons, I love thrillers of any kind and
like to read them in the original language. And then there is this
mailing list: how could I communicate with you all wonderfull
palmtopers?

Regards

Antonio

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> Scandinavian countries: English level - generally excellent.
> Holland: generally excellent.
> Germany: generally very good.
> France: generally OK.
> Spain/Italy/Greece: generally pretty poor.
>


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Jorgen  wrote:

> Hi There!
>
> I have installed Rod Whitby's network connection package- lxmnc10b.zip
> and it works great with my Accton card. But I have one problem which I
> hope you can help me with.

What network are you connecting to? I have a Windowsnetwork that I will
try (again) to connect to and map drives.. I was not successfull the
first time I tried..

Hmm I will check out the Lxmnc10b package. This is maybe the only thing
I have not downloaded.. I have tried the description I found on
Hplx.net which used drivers from a package called 2216hp.zip. But that
did not work..

Will try again. Thans for the tip..

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:25:41 -0500
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No, Lair of the Squid is right there in my U.S. palmtop, serial number
SG4...

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>
>So it is only found in non-US palmtops,...

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> It's called Lair of Squid and the reason for the confusion
> is that I think it's only found in non-US palmtops - from
> what I remember, there was some ROM space going spare...
> Have a look for D:\BIN\Maze.exe and see if you have it.
>
> Don't worry if you can't find it - you're not missing much!

Lair of Squid has kept my 6 year old son occupied and quiet for hours =
during
various boring (to him) activities.  That alone is almost worth the price =
of
the palmtop .

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> Yes you are right,the name is Lair of Squid.
>
> So it is only found in non-US palmtops,perhaps that is
> why Avi was so angry when I asked him about it 

I have it on my US palmtop.

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> Another problem I'm having with SC may or may not have any bearing on =
the
> above.  Occasionally when switching from one area to another, I get a =
screen
> of nothing but wide vertical lines.  If you press any key, the program
> running responds as normal, but the lines stay for the duration.

This means your resource pool is a bit small.  If SC has enough space, it =
saves
both the computer memory and the screen and restores them when you swap =
back to
that area.  If the resource pool is a bit small, SC only save the computer
memory and the screen doesn't get restored.  The screen takes up 16K of =
memory,
so add 16K times the number of work areas you have to your resource pool =
and
the problem should be gone.

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              Feher Tamas 
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Subject:      Accton EN2212 and Silicom ethernet card questions.

Hello all,

I wonder if anyone knows the pinout of the Accton EN2212-2
card (the 15-pin flat connector that leads to the dongle/
break-out box)? I see, this card is also OK for the 200LX.

I could have a new cable custom made for me, if I had this
info. I got the card body without cable. Accton told me this
card is old and I should junk it.

BTW, I also got a brand new Silicom for app. 47USD (I guess
this was cheap). I heard some people (about 10%) had luck with
this card in their DS/2x palmtops, others not. Does it depend
on some substle variations among the 200LX they used? Could
this problem be fixed in software or card firmware update?

Thank you in advance, Regards: Tamas Feher


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              A Meshar 
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Lair of Squids is on my US machine too.

As to asking me about it:

You bombarded D&A Support email with requests for help on
many different products that D&A does ot sell, such as Lair
of Squids, Lotus, Memo, and many many more. I asked you at
least 5 times to stop these emails. It took valuable time
to read and respond to you each time. This was time taken
away from customers who needed help with our products. But
you chose to keep asking.

It became a strain here and I finally sent you a proposal:
If you want me to support you on products that are not D&A
I will do it on a paid basis. That was (almost) the end of
it. I believe you only sent two or three other emails after
that.

I have no intention to use the resources of the business to
support products that D&A does not sell. That would be
destructive to the business. There is a lot of support
available in the Palmtop documentation, and also in many
other venues, such as this, HPHAND on Compuserve (now the
100/200LX section in Palmtops on Compuserve, and
Newsgroups. I suggested these to you, but you ignored all
the suggestions.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com


Lars Hedstroem wrote:
> Mike wrote:
>
> > It's called Lair of Squid and the reason for the confusion
> > is that I think it's only found in non-US palmtops - from
> > what I remember, there was some ROM space going spare...
> > Have a look for D:\BIN\Maze.exe and see if you have it.
>
> Yes you are right,the name is Lair of Squid.
>
> So it is only found in non-US palmtops,perhaps that is why Avi was so
> angry when I asked him about it 
>
> > Don't worry if you can't find it - you're not missing much!
>
> I agree but the graphics is quite good,I tried some games on the SUPER
> but their graphics were horrible.
>
> I have never been to your page,though.But I will if you have a  good
> graphics and exciting game to recommend?
>
> Lars Hedstroem/Sweden
>
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>

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, A Meshar wrote:

> Lair of Squids is on my US machine too.

And on all other machines that I've ever seen, too.

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>- Is English taught in Europe as a required academic course?

In Switzerland I it was required for me to learn English and French besid=
es
German
(we have 4 official languages here: German, French, Italian and Rumantsch=
).

>- Is there a practical, daily reason for the average European to know
English?

Yes. If you work with Computers. A lot of German translations sound like =
a
joke.
e.g. the games. Or words like "icon" (in German "Ikone"). And for me in
French
the translations are like: "il y a un erreur grave sur la disque dure de =
cet
ordinateur".
That's: "there is an error on the hard disk of the computer.

>- Are other languages taught with similar emphasis?

French (in Switzerland).

BTW: I am surrounded by the REAL Europeans! Usually most French and Germa=
ns
living on the border of each other don't know the language of the others
very well.
It seems, that little countries like us are more flexible in using foreig=
n
languages.

The most interesting experience I made regarding languages was, when a yo=
ung
man from Japan told me about the earthquake in Kobe ..... in the Turkish
language.
We both visited a school in Istanbul (I am Swiss, not Turk).

Stephan G=F6ldi

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>  Two ideas to try 1)  Try
>
>"a:\tools\open.exe /trc:\_dat\file.wk1|" to stuff the German command.
>
>  2) Rename open.exe to open.bin, load it into debug, search for the
>"/FR" string, change it to "/TR", save, and rename back to open.exe.


1) didn't work (open doesn't see the file name)

for 2): How can I search in debug (which command)?

 TIA
-goe-

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              Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 
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In-Reply-To:  "peniel@WEB2000.NET"'s message of Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:00:03 -0500

Hm, what's missing from the version of the HP200 that has "lair of
Squid" that's on the US models?  I got mine second hand, and it has
the game.

73, doug

   Date:    Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:00:03 -0500
   From:    Peniel Romanelli 

   Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:52:45 -0500 (EST)

   Hi gang -

   We've had several posts about the squid game in the palmtop.  If you
   don't know about it already, there's an easter egg hidden in the game.
   As soon as you start it, type "gallery" (without the quotes) and you'll
   see photos of the HP-LX development team on the walls of the maze.
   Sadly, I've forgotten who's who...  Somebody posted the info quite a
   while back.


   Later

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Hi!
I am trying to get my automated telnet session to atle.abc.se to work.
Any help is welcome.

*In robot.cfg i have:
ÝABC¨
Login=3DXX
Password=3DYY

*My abc.scr looks like:
n ABC PostCfg none
if (found none) noCfg
~ error $it
:noCfg
open atle.abc.se
echo waiting for answer...
wait 20 login:
echo sending login\n
n ABC Login
send $it;TTY\r
...

*And when I connect with www "!robot -2 abc.scr" I get:
PROCESS n ABC PostCfg none
PROCESS if (found none) noCfg
PROCESS ~ error $it
PROCESS :noCfg
PROCESS
PROCESS open atle.abc.se
Contacting atle.abc.se...
PROCESS echo waiting for answer...
waiting for answer... PROCESS wait 20 login:
GOT TELNET 253 24
SEND TELNET -3 24
GOT TELNET 253 31
SEND TELNET -3 31
GOT TELNET 253 35
SEND TELNET -3 35
GOT TELNET 253 39
SEND TELNET -3 39
GOT TELNET 253 36
SEND TELNET -3 36
GOT TELNET 254 31
GOT TELNET 254 35
GOT TELNET 254 39
GOT TELNET 254 36
GOT TELNET 250 24
GOT TELNET 251 1
GOT TELNET 251 3
GOT TELNET 253 1
SEND TELNET -3 1
GOT TELNET 111 103
Unknown telnet request 111
SEND TELNET 111 103
GOT TELNET 110 58
Unknown telnet request 110
SEND TELNET 110 58
GOT TELNET 0 13
Unknown telnet request 0
SEND TELNET 0 13
GOT TELNET 251 1
GOT TELNET 254 1
SEND TELNET -2 1
GOT >

SunOS 5.7

<
=07
***ERROR***
Time out.
Line 8 in file abc.scr
PPP connection closed.
Hanging up...
Total time online: 0:27
Exiting WWW/LX.

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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> - Is English taught in Europe as a required academic course?
> For most Americans, it's optional.  And many of us struggle (and successfully
> maim) the one language we have.
>
You asked about Europe, but I thought I would chime in on behalf of Canada. Here
we have both English and French as official languages. Consequently, both
languages are taught in schools and, generally, credits in both are required to
earn one's high school diploma. (This varies from province to province, however,
because while French is essential in Quebec and useful in Ontario and New
Brunswick ...it is almost non-existent in Saskatchewan, Alberta or British
Columbia.)

I have always thought that Switzerland must be an interesting country. As I
understand it, German, Italian, French and English are spoken by most Swiss...
is this true, Avi?

> But you know we europeans have neurotic memories from punishing english
teachers
> from childhood, that's why we are so anxious about using the right grammar 
>
And this English Canadian still has nightmares of a certain French teacher
advancing up the aisle with her steel ruler in hand...
"Pas moi, Madame Theroux!  Ce n'etait pas moi!"  *Thwack!*  "Aieee!"

Bruce in Toronto

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> <
>       LEFT                      RIGHT
> Andy Gryc            Pat Megowan
> Everett Kaser        Bill Johnson
> Lynn Winter          Susan Wechsler
> Eric Evett           "special thanks"
>
David, will you see that this also gets into the updated FAQ?

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On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Ed Keefe wrote:

> What can I say?  Blessed are those with finger dexterity for they
> shall not lose all their marbles.

Heh heh... my big problem with the 200LX is screen readability.  The
backlight helps out tremendously in dim conditions, making even 80x25 mode
good to use.

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Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:06:13 -0500 (EST)

19m58s ago ...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:

> Hm, what's missing from the version of the HP200 that has "lair of
> Squid" that's on the US models?  I got mine second hand, and it has
> the game.

AFAIK nothing is missing.  I think the post about squid only being on
non-US models had it backwards.  I think all US 200LXs have the game.
I believe it's not available in some European models.

HTH

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:20:47 +0100
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Living in Brussels, there's no way I can travel in any direction without
having to change languages. At school, a second and most of the time, at
least a third language is compulsory. Fact is that English is relatively
easy to learn, and the the language of choice to meet others. In Holland,
there is a debate going on , I believe, to use English as the language at
the Universities. In Belgium, some University courses are taught in
English. Over thirty years time, the preferred second language has gone
from French to English, in southern countries like Italy and Spain. For
just too many things, and not only computers, English is just too
widespread too ignore. Personally, and many friends think the same way, we
prefer to have our computers speak English, rather than the local variety:
it's so much simpler. I have three different languages installed on my
computer: bios in French, mail and internet in English, Micro$  Word in
Dutch!
In Belgium, English is present in many aspects of everyday life: culture
(films, songs) manuals, technical docs...
If I go skiing in Italy, only 650miles away, I will have spoken four
languages along the road: Dutch, French, German, Italian
My .02 $

Etienne
> From: Longden Loo 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: FLUFF:Anxiety-ridden europeans (was: HP200lx Speaker
Problems
> Date: mercredi 26 janvier 2000 17:40
>
> As a culturally challenged American, I have some questions regarding
language in
> Europe, if this list can indulge me:
>
> - Is English taught in Europe as a required academic course?
> For most Americans, it's optional.  And many of us struggle (and
successfully
> maim) the one language we have.
>
> - Is there a practical, daily reason for the average European to know
English?
> While there are many opportunities to use a 2nd language in the US, they
are
> usually non-essential.  The average person could spend their entire life
in the
> US needing nothing more than English in order to live.  Hence the
motivation to
> learn a 2nd language usually comes from academic requirements or purely
personal
> reasons (ie, how to speak to your in-laws).
>
> - Are other languages taught with similar emphasis?
>
> - Do the British place similar emphasis on learning a 2nd language (ie,
other
> than English)?
>
> It's difficult for me to imagine any people wanting to inflict the
English
> language (with apologies to the Brits) on a non-English speaking people
unless
> there were major practical concerns.  I imagine that English has
saturated the
> global markets in terms of being used as a  language for commerce.  But I
just
> wondered how much English does the average child need to know, and
encounter on
> a daily basis, in non-English speaking countries.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Longden
>
>
>
>
>
> Lars Hedstroem  on 01/26/2000 08:03:21 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please
respond
>       to nxw988e@TNINET.SE
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
> Subject:  FLUFF:Anxiety-ridden europeans (was: HP200lx Speaker Problems
>
>
>
>
>
>
> But you know we europeans have neurotic memories from punishing english
teachers
> from childhood, that's why we are so anxious about using the right
grammar 
>
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On 26 Jan 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> - Is English taught in Europe as a required academic course?
> For most Americans, it's optional.  And many of us struggle (and successfully
> maim) the one language we have.



> When it comes to these stomping grounds, a minefield of acronyms,
abbreviations
> and dangling prepositions, you just have to close your eyes and remind
yourself
> that ...  "Shakespeare we ain't" .
>
> - Longden
>
> PS Actually, Shakespeare took a lot of liberties himself with the language ...
> maybe a lesson?

English is increasingly the lingua franca worldwide. The British colonized
half the world, the Allies won WWII, the accelerating proliferation of the
American economic and cultural juggernaut and now the net. Lazy emails,
sloppy grammar, ethnic vernaculars and colloquialisms are even forcing
Webster and Oxford to admit "evolution" of English. Its usage is further
accelerating because much of the youth of Eastern Europe, Russia and China
are now learning English to have better opportunities.

Europe has a solution:

 The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been
reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility.

 As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English
spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased
plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).

 In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c". Sertainly,
sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard "c" will be
replaced with "k". Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters
kan have one less letter.

 There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the
troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f". This will make words like
"fotograf" 20 per sent shorter.

 In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to
reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments
will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a
deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of
silent "e"s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.

 By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th"
by "z" and "w" by v.

 During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining
"ou", and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of
leters.

 After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor
trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer.


---
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Bruce Martin wrote:

> > < >
> >       LEFT                      RIGHT
> > Andy Gryc            Pat Megowan
> > Everett Kaser        Bill Johnson
> > Lynn Winter          Susan Wechsler
> > Eric Evett           "special thanks"
> >
> David, will you see that this also gets into the updated FAQ?

Yup.  Cool tidbits like this are always great to have in the FAQ.

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Well, since it's FLUFF....  in High School (around 1977 or so) the
French teacher told us that French was the International Language - all
treaties, and international documents were written in French.  In
college, I took additional French to satisfy graduation requirements.
My Spanish-taking buddies would tell me how popular spanish-derived
languages were, and I would counter that French was the "International
Language".  But just about the last quarter I had to take the classes,
(about 1983 maybe?) I read in the news where they had just announced
English as the *new* international language - from then on, all
treaties and such would be drafted in English instead of French.
Bummer!

-Chris

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>> What can I say?  Blessed are those with finger dexterity
>>for they shall not lose all their marbles.

>Heh heh... my big problem with the 200LX is screen readability.

Blessed are those with 20/20 vision in dim light ... keep eating those carrots
and vitamin A .

- Longden (who has finger dexterity and good vision, but still loses his marbles
daily anyway)

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:25:21 +0100, Sidney Ho  wrote:

> English is increasingly the lingua franca worldwide.

In Central Alabama, Spanish seems to be profilerating..... I'm not sure =
if
this is good or bad, the consensus, it seems, is that it is bad. It's =
really
weird, we even have Spanish commercials on TV now.......

Jeff

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I use to swap files with a dell portable with Windows 98 on it.  I would
plug my SanDisk into the slot and a new drive would appear.  I would then
copy data to and from that drive.

I have just switched to NT on a new dell portable.  I plug the card in and
it is recognized and the drive appears.  As soon as I copy a large file to
the card via a dos window, the command comes back right away, but I can hear
disk activity in the background and everything gums up.  Eventually it times
out and I see corrupted files on the SanDisk card.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thank you,

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> Date:    Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:30:29 -0600
> From:    Chris Lott 
> Subject: Lotus123 and Hexadecimal
>
> Anyone have tips on performing hex formatting of numbers from within
> Lotus-123?  Maybe some sort of add-in?
>
> -Chris
>
There's a Hex calculator already in the 200  - d:\bin\hexcalc.exm - is that
any use to you? Alternatively, you could write a (humongous) @IF() to do the
conversion.

Jon

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>
> Date:    Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:55:18 -0500
> From:    Mike Wagstaff 
> Subject: Re: Fluff: FreeCell 642534
>
> On 26 Jan 2000 02:43:33 -0800, Lars Hedstroem  wrote:
>
> > > Lars, what maze game are you talking about?
> >
> > >Maze game?  Do you mean Sokoban?  I've played it but not for a >long
> > >time.  I don't think I ever got over level 25.
> > >cheers... Russ
> >
> > The game built in to the HP200.You are caught in an underwater maze with
squids wandering it.
>
> It's called Lair of Squid and the reason for the confusion
> is that I think it's only found in non-US palmtops - from

No - it's in the US ones as well, and documented in Appendix F of the 200
User's Guide.

Once again, it pays to RTFM.

> what I remember, there was some ROM space going spare...
> Have a look for D:\BIN\Maze.exe and see if you have it.
>
> Don't worry if you can't find it - you're not missing much!
>
>  -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨
>

Jon

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Has anyone seen a GE in seat airphone on the airlines. They look basically
the same.  There are actually two different models of displays on these.
Both are backlit but one uses one led remotely mounted with very fine
fiber optic strands redirecting the light to the display. It's a concept
that I thought that would be easy to implement. Low power useage to boot.
I could not see a difference in the brightness of the two diferent methods.




At 14:45 00/01/26 -0800, you wrote:
>>> What can I say?  Blessed are those with finger dexterity
>>>for they shall not lose all their marbles.
>
>>Heh heh... my big problem with the 200LX is screen readability.
>
>Blessed are those with 20/20 vision in dim light ... keep eating those
carrots
>and vitamin A .
>
>- Longden (who has finger dexterity and good vision, but still loses his
marbles
>daily anyway)
>
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:29:38 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Perry Frayn wrote:

> Has anyone seen a GE in seat airphone on the airlines. They look
> basically the same.  There are actually two different models of
> displays on these. Both are backlit but one uses one led remotely
> mounted with very fine fiber optic strands redirecting the light to
> the display. It's a concept that I thought that would be easy to
> implement. Low power useage to boot. I could not see a difference in
> the brightness of the two diferent methods.

We've investigated that method of backlighting the 200LX very
thoroughly.  Simple in concept, but practically, not possible for the
200LX's limited screen thickness.

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:31:30 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" 
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David wrote:
(re SC)
>There were a few other bugs,
>but they were corrected in the new version.

Might be a "dumb" question, but what is the newest version?

I've recently reloaded SSC 7 *with* the corrected file to run on the 64MB/DS
machines. When I start the Configuration program, Power.PAK v. 3.71 reports
running before SSC (what's *that* critter anyway?) and it reports  Version
7.00 in the top bar, when I start the SC Menu program it reports v 7.00 in
the Left-hand side; but v 7.02 on the right side of the screen (I figure
this is normal).

I've yet to take the time to re-load the newer versions of PE and some of
the other shareware programs that've been re-released since my CD was made.


Is there a newer, all (or almost all) shareware updated version of SSC out
there; perhaps SSC-8 is in the works at Thaddeus?

TIA,
--tim

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:37:58 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" 
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Hi David!

Noticed in one of your postings that you've got a nice and simple line like:

>On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Perry Frayn wrote:

in your posts.  Which email program do you use Ýis this on your LX¨ and what
is the "code" for such a clean line.  I like that MUCH more than the ones
that read more like:

"Robert Warren Smith, who's mother called him Smitty, wrote, at exactly
18:04:08.003 +/- 4 milliseconds, GMT, which is 7 hours offset from the time
of the poster's reply, and this post was written 4.875 hours after the
first, by a slightly hungover typist......"



Sorry -- not making fun of the list Ýor it's denizens, shepherds and
lurkers!!¨ --

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:53:49 -0500
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Longden Loo wrote:
> I meant that a 2nd language (besides English) is often optional in the US.

Haven't you heard the joke?

  Q: "What do you call a person that speaks 2 languages?"
  A: Bilingual

  Q: "What do you call a person that speaks 3 languages?"
  A: Trilingual

  Q: "What do you call a person that speaks only 1 language?"
  A: American

cheers... Russ    (English only I'm sorry to say.)

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:53:52 -0500
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Al Kind wrote:
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
> From:         Hal Goldstein 
> I sent his question to Everett (below): and got this response:
...
> Everett Kaser

By the way; for those of you that like good logic puzzle games,
Everett Kaser has written several very good ones you can get at:

  http://www.kaser.com

Unfortunately they won't run on the LX due to display requirements but
some of the older ones like Sherlock (Great game!) have a DOS version.

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:54:01 -0500
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On 26 Jan 2000 14:11:31 -0800, Peniel Romanelli  wrote:

> AFAIK nothing is missing.  I think the post about squid only being on
> non-US models had it backwards.  I think all US 200LXs have the game.

Sorry for the misinformation. I did indeed have it backwards.
I hereby grant the people of the US permission to have Lair
of Squid on their LX's! :-)

> I believe it's not available in some European models.

Europe, US... it's all the same!

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 18:34:11 -0500
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              Perry Frayn 
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I'm spending another evening in with my toy.

I still have no speaker.

In my trouble shooting I done this so far tonight


I have tacked two wires onto the mother board close to the speaker
contacts. I hooked up a set of earphones from a walk man to see if I could
hear 200Lx making noise. It is working but the volume level is very very low.

I've seen a mod on the internet where you can add an earphone jsck to your
200LX. Has anyone done this. How is the volume level?

I then sent audio from the walkman to the bottom half case speaker (pizeo
device) and the audio is there but very weak? (even with the walkman turned
full up.

I'm 100% sure the contacts in the case have been making contact with the
pads on the motherboard. This is why I have started to look else where.

Anyone got any ideas I can add to my troubleshooting.


regards, Perry

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 07:39:49 -0500
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Russel Brooks writes:
> Maze game?  Do you mean Sokoban?  I've played it but not for a long
> time.  I don't think I ever got over level 25.

Sokoban runs nicely on the 200LX.  I've been through the whole
thing and seem to recall there are 31 or 32 levels.  Two of
the levels appear to me to be impossible to finish.  Sorry, I
don't remember which ones, but I think one was in the teens and
one in the twenties.

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 07:41:48 -0500
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Lars Hedstroem writes:
>
> The game built in to the HP200.You are caught in an underwater maze
> with squids wandering it.
>
> I reached level 60 something after heavy work,there was one level
> which seemed totally impossible to come through.

Okay, thanks.  I haven't spent that much time with Squid--I may
have to investigate more thoroughly.  Sounds like you're a real
Squid Master, Lars!

Ted

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:03:39 -0700
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Just wanted to thank everyone who contacted me on and off list with
assistance. I opted to buy a new 8mb 200LX from Thaddeus - thanks
Hal. Also picked up two of the 20mb Sandisks from Scott Moore. You're
a good group, glad I found you.

  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:29:06 -0700
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I managed to get ACT! 1.11 for the LX. This version is for a Windows ACT!
counterpart. Oddly enough, it doesn't function due to lack of the
requisite Contacts.db1 file(s). The Read.me indicates that there was a
version 1.1 that worked with the DOS ACT! as its PC counterpart. If
anyone on the list has the version 1.1 please send it as an attachment
to an email to me. Also, If anyone is running the 1.11 version could you
send me the Contact.db1 file(s) so I can try both versions out? Thanks.

  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:49:11 -0500
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              Perry Frayn 
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Well after a week of messing around I finally got a fix on my speaker problem.

I found that the transitor just below the ground bus contact on the mother
board had a crack in the solder joint.  This was a suggestion from Mack
Baggette. Thankyou very much Mack.  I'd like to thank everyone else in the
group also for the suggestions that I received over the last few days.

I guess I was thrown off track by the spring contacts being so close to
where I had to push on the bottom of the case to get the speaker to work.
Just by chance there is a plastic standoff near the ground connector that
presses agains the motherboard. When I pushed on the case it was
transfering the load to the motherboard and flexiing it enough to make the
solder joint close.

Have a great night all!

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 03:17:59 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Fryday ,Philippe, asked about the holographic screen:
> "Is this something that could be put instead of the backlight for cheaper,
> perhaps?"
>
> solution. To be more complete, I should also mention that I didn't like the
> screen's narrow viewing angle during the first week of testing. I had some
> good experiences that tipped the scales from dislike to like. Others may not
> have had such experiences.

I think my original message in this thread is trapped in another body
(computer body, that is and to be posted tomorrow) but it was a fairly
quirky screen.  I recall getting it just before a long bus trip to a
distant ski area.  It was fabulous on the bus.  But reading it in bed
with a side-light was a bit more of a problem due to the narrow angle
you referred to.

Dave Shier and I were discussing it just last night - narrowing the
number of users and folks who tested it even more. (G)   I think it may
have been heavily weighted by cis hphand folks! (G)

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 03:17:48 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Has anyone been able to get REMKEY to work on a Win98 machine? On my older,
> DOS computer, REMKEY worked quite well and let me use the Palmtop's apps
> almost as if they were applications on the desktop.

Just a guess - in the dos window's property box, Program/Advanced:find
the one that says, Have dos ignore windows or some such.  And try
tweaking the other settings????

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> >- Is English taught in Europe as a required academic course?
> >For most Americans, it's optional.
>
> I meant that a 2nd language (besides English) is often optional in the US.

I think you may have been right the first time - English is an optional
requirement in the US (I almost typed America! (g)), too! (G).

(have I appropriately matched my open/close parens?)

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:06:53 -0600
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              Ted Brown 
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The resource pool shows Expanded Ram: 288k         Extended Ram :  0K
Disk File as Ram: 1248K   for a total of 1536k.   Is this enough?  BTY, I
have a 32m palmtop and have SC on a 48meg flashcard..
TIA
>
>This means your resource pool is a bit small.  If SC has enough space, it
saves
>both the computer memory and the screen and restores them when you swap
back to
>that area.  If the resource pool is a bit small, SC only save the computer
>memory and the screen doesn't get restored.  The screen takes up 16K of
memory,
>so add 16K times the number of work areas you have to your resource pool
and
>the problem should be gone.
>
>Steve Carder
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:15:55 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren 
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Hi!

Yes, it worked! Thank you!!! But I have realized that this seams to work
well only with Win 95/98. When I tried using a NT Workstation, the =
connection
is very slow and unreliable. It works fine to map the NT machines drives
to the palmtop, but not to map the palmtop to the NT Workstation. This I
think is strange- any idea's?

Thanks and Regards,


Jorgen

> Have you shared your palmtop's resources?
> On the palmtop, type the command
> net share whatever=3Dc:\
>
> After this " find computer " on the desktop  shouls show you c:\ as =
shared
> resource on your palmtop.
>
> the net share /?  command on the palmtop will give more details. I'm
> writing this from memory, 'cause I left my palmtop home(booh);
>
> If it doesn't help, do ask again.
>
> HTH
>
> Etienne Lemaire

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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:58:31 -0700
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              Bob Meyer 
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Chris Lott wrote:

> Anyone have tips on performing hex formatting of numbers from within
> Lotus-123?  Maybe some sort of add-in?

I created a formula for counting from 0 to 255 in hex. If you want the
spreadsheet, I could send it.

--
+--------------------+-----------------+
|Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
+--------------------+-----------------+
|   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
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Date:         Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:20:07 -0800
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              A Meshar 
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> I have always thought that Switzerland must be an interesting country. As I
> understand it, German, Italian, French and English are spoken by most Swiss...
> is this true, Avi?

I think Switzerland is an great country with great people.
But I am not sure about languages spoken. Here in Los
Angeles, where I live, most people speak some level of
english, some spanish, and they grunt a lot :-) ...

  Avi

The above is my own private opinion. For official D&A
Software response, please write to: support@dasoft.com and
check FAQs at http://www.dasoft.com

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:33:35 MEST
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>I have always thought that Switzerland must be an interesting country. As I

>understand it, German, Italian, French and English are spoken by most Swiss...


Italian is not spoken by MOST Swiss, but it is one of the 4 official languages
here.
MOST Swiss speak German, French and English. The fourth language is Rumantsch.
Andreas Garzotto perhaps can speak Rumantsch?

-goe-

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I am looking for a good used 200 LX Palmtop. Also I have a Psion 5 which I
will sell or Trade for a 200 LX. Anyone interested can contact me at my email
address.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:19:48 -0800
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I have some items for sale, thought I'd give the list the first shot.

Fox Pro DOS version manuals - I have the diskettes with a good valid serial
number, but can't get them to install.  I'll send the disks along, but
consider this for the manuals only (complete set).  I also have a Windows
3.1 version with disks also, if anyone is interested.

MS Word v. 6.0 DOS complete with manuals, etc., but on 5-1/4" disks.  Can
convert to 3.5 if interested.  This is essentially brand new.

Infotel 14.4 kbaud pocket modem with AC adapter.  Runs off Com1 with
batteries - free up your card slot.

Please reply off-line.

Thanks,

Claud

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:29:28 -0800
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Oops - sorry,

Also have a SimpleTech 33.6 kbaud PCMCIA modem - works well in 'LXs.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Claud G. Cameron ÝSMTP:cameronc@ix.netcom.com¨
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Subject:        FS

I have some items for sale, thought I'd give the list the first shot.

Fox Pro DOS version manuals - I have the diskettes with a good valid serial
number, but can't get them to install.  I'll send the disks along, but
consider this for the manuals only (complete set).  I also have a Windows
3.1 version with disks also, if anyone is interested.

MS Word v. 6.0 DOS complete with manuals, etc., but on 5-1/4" disks.  Can
convert to 3.5 if interested.  This is essentially brand new.

Infotel 14.4 kbaud pocket modem with AC adapter.  Runs off Com1 with
batteries - free up your card slot.

Please reply off-line.

Thanks,

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:48:53 GMT
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              d-cripps 
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Hi,

I've just bought a small Canon BJC-1000 to use with my Windoz machine and would love to be able to use it to print from the HP, but unfortunately no Joy.

The docs only mention Windoz drivers, no mention anyway of any other OS! Anyone else had any joy with this or any other bubble jet and the HP?

Regards

Dave Cripps

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<<
I've recently reloaded SSC 7 *with* the corrected file to run on the 64MB/DS
machines. When I start the Configuration program, Power.PAK v. 3.71 reports
running before SSC (what's *that* critter anyway?) and it reports  Version
7.00 in the top bar, when I start the SC Menu program it reports v 7.00 in
the Left-hand side; but v 7.02 on the right side of the screen (I figure
this is normal).

Is there a newer, all (or almost all) shareware updated version of SSC out
there; perhaps SSC-8 is in the works at Thaddeus?>>

Sorry about the confusion of version numbers. We got the code as is, and
therefore we can't change the versions number in the sw. We've shipped the
latest version of SSC and SC since Nov 98.  The disk says 7.07 and that is
the latest!  No new version is likely to come out.

Impt SSC users: if we installed it, no problem. If you install it from the
CD, be sure to follow the instructions and install the disk version of the
.pgm file over the CD version to get 7.07.

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Goeldi wrote:

> Italian is not spoken by MOST Swiss, but it is one of the 4 official =
languages > here.> MOST Swiss speak German, French and English. The =
fourth language is Rumantsch.


In English spelled:Romansh or Romansch-there I got you for they year =
zero! 

Furthermore you say german,I have studied german but if I come to an area =
in Switzerland where Schw=FCtzerdeutsch is spoken I don't understand =
anything almost.

So your definition of the word "german" doesn't cover the reality,from my =
point of view you have 5 languages.

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Because Chris Lott is trying to create software to make the LX read/write to
the REX 3, I am posting where to get the 256k rex 3. If you already have one,
Chris needs people who have REX 3's to help him test the procedures.

For those interested in the REX 3 256k at ~$30, there are now many stores that
carry them.  egghead.com sent mine in two days.  check www.shopper.com (search
for rex-3) to find a dozen or so places.

Most of these, unfortunately (incl egghead) are selling the rex WITHOUT the
docking station.  I think telekomnet.com has it with the station (they call it
the pc card interface--which could just mean the software).  Call the place
and make sure you are getting what you think you are.

Fortunately for me, I had a PCMCIA card reader in my desktop, which works
better than the docking station anyway. And hopefully this will become
unneeded after Chris Lott et. al.  have written code for the LX.

I'll post a review of the rex 3 after I have played with it. For now, go to
www.the-gadgeteer.com and find some reviews there.

I plan to use it as a limited organizer and for reading e-books (limited)

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When you go to buy a REX 3, if the description says "W/ PC Card Interface"
that means it does NOT include the docking station.  I found only one place so
far: excelcomputers.com that includes the docking station.

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Mike wagstaff wrote:

> Never been to my page?! In that case, you're not invited! 
>
> But, if you decide to visit anyway, for great graphics and
> gameplay, I would recommend the following:
>
>  -Galactic Battle (shoot-em-up)
>   http://games.hplx.net/games/downloads/gb.zip (48 KB)

I downloaded Galactic Battle and scored 14000 after a couple of tries,but =
the missils aren't they little too small?

If I make a topscore,how do I confirm?

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:19:38 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Lotus123 and Hexadecimal
In-Reply-To:  <00eb01bf685a$cba385a0$0b509ec7@rural.usda.gov> from "Jon
              Barrett" at Jan 26, 2000 07:02:18 PM
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> There's a Hex calculator already in the 200  - d:\bin\hexcalc.exm - is that
> any use to you?

Yes, I use it.  Although I am disappointed about its lack of standard
features.  The X<>Y key doesn't work, nor does the LASTX key.

> Alternatively, you could write a (humongous) @IF() to do the
> conversion.

That's a thought.  I could also do a digit lookup table.  I'll think
about that.

Thanks,

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:25:41 -0500
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I just bought a REX 3 with docking station for $32 from CDW. They had 60
more in stock with another 200 coming in soon.

www.cdw.com

or 1-800-800-4239 x7154

Tell Haidi that Tom Salwasser told you to call. d;-)

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Daniel Hertrich  wrote:

> That was I.
> (BTW: What is right here? My English teacher told me to say
> 'that was
> I', but everytime I read something like that in this list, you
> all say
> 'that was me'. What's up here???)
>
>
You could say: "Me, myself and I" :-)

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Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:40:45 -0500 (EST)

05h51m52s ago ...
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, d-cripps wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've just bought a small Canon BJC-1000 to use with my Windoz machine
> and would love to be able to use it to print from the HP,
> but unfortunately no Joy.
>
> The docs only mention Windoz drivers, no mention anyway of any other
> OS! Anyone else had any joy with this or any other bubble jet and the =
HP?

I think you're probably out of luck.  A lot of printers are brain-dead
windoze-only types.  They have no drivers in the printer, and depend on
windoze for everything.  Those that'll work with DOS or any OS will
usually mention some type of emulation (typically Epson or IBM
Proprinter - sometimes HP-LJ) in the docs, and have some DIP switches
to set parameters.

Sorry this doesn't help much...


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Hmmm....how does the handwriting recoginiton feature work?  That was the
most interesting feature of the unit.  One wonders why it never picked up
versus the Palmpilot, then.

Thanks for the information.

On 2000-01-23 David Sargeant said:
   >The Omnigo 100/120 are much less useful than the 200LX as a palmtop
   >computer; smaller screen, weird keyboard, no AC adapter port,
   >etc.  However, they run GEOS, and so there are some cool programs
   >for them.  The Omnigo 700LX is a completely different beast: it's
   >like a 200LX, but bigger and with a built-in docking cradle for a
   >Nokia GSM phone (or the 2190 in the US).  Bill Childers reviewed
   >the OG700LX at:
   >http://www.hplx.net/reviews.og700.html
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              Steve Novosad 
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> Daniel Hertrich 
> That was I.
> (BTW: What is right here? My English teacher told me to say 'that was
> I', but everytime I read something like that in this list, you all say
> 'that was me'. What's up here???)

Paraphrasing "The Macmillan Handbook of English" fourth edition, 1962.

Use "I" in the nominative case.  When it is the subject of the sentance.
Use "my, mine" in the posessive case.  Indicating posession (+some).
Use "me" in the objective case.  When it is the object of the sentance.

Therefore:

It was me.  That was me.  I wrote fluff.

American, US variety, currently in north west Florida.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:43:41 -0800
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>Here in Los Angeles, where I live, most people speak some
>level of english, some spanish, and they grunt a lot :-) ...

On the road, the natives here are also especially expressive with body language
(particularly with the fingers).

I understand that every gesture has a meaning .

- Longden

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Chris,

Do you have the CMCALC program? It's the mother of all computer math
calculators. Available on SUPER.
.ed.

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Problem 1
My 200LX is blanking out 3-4 vertical stripes on the left side, and 2
stripes on the right side of the screen. If I press the border (on the
"HP"-logo to be exact) above the blank stripes, the screen is OK for a
while, but the stripes reappear after a minute or so. I suspect the stripes
to be caused by bad contacts somewhere inside the screen.

Problem 2
Some times (more and more often) I have to "twist" the machine to get the ON
switch to work. It seems to be a poor contact as well.

I assume that I am not the first to experience this, and hope that someone
on the list already have found solutions to these problems. Can anyone help
me, or do I have to send the thing to Thaddeus? (I find the shipping cost
from Norway too high for minor problems like this.)

Thanks in advance.

Helge Holm

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:38:03 -0500
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              "Striegel, Alan" 
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Take a look at the spreadsheet located here:
http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/BASECONV.WK1.

It's a bit crude, but you'll get the idea.  This is intended to convert
numbers from base 10 to any other base from 2 through 35.  It only
accomodates values up to 16 places in the destination base.

Enter your base 10 value in D2, enter the destination base in B1 and the
resulting value in that base appears in D1.  This just uses the @VLOOKUP
function to find values above 9 in a table and the @STRING function to
convert all the digits to text so they can be concatenated in the resulting
value.  Sorry but there's no leading zero suppression.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 12:30 PM
>...
>Anyone have tips on performing hex formatting of numbers from within
>Lotus-123?  Maybe some sort of add-in?

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Subject:      Re: Lotus123 and Hexadecimal
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> Do you have the CMCALC program? It's the mother of all computer math
> calculators. Available on SUPER.

Ed:

No - I'm downloading it now.  And thanks for all the suggestions.  I'm
also looking at the example spreadsheet that was also suggested.  While
these are all good ideas, I'm worried they may fall short of my true
need - to be able to examine large tables of numbers in 123 and easily
convert whole columns of numbers from decimal to hex and back.  I may
just resort to using my desktop for this single need (Excel can handle
this okay), but I was really hoping to use my palmtop entirely for the
project (this is the REX data analysis part of the project).  I
remember there were some add-ins for 123 that gave you extra @functions,
does anyone know if hex conversions were ever available?

Thanks,

-Chris

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> Hmmm....how does the handwriting recoginiton feature work?  That was the
> most interesting feature of the unit.  One wonders why it never picked up
> versus the Palmpilot, then.

The handwriting was not bad but quirky nonetheless for this lefty and
another interesting feature was that the keyboaard could be folded
backward behind the unit and you only had a "pilot-like" screen and in
addition, the screen could be rotated 90 degrees so you could hold it in
a different aspect and press a button and the image would rotate also.

It had pretty poor battery life.  As a matter of fact, if left over
weekend with "good" LITHIUMS which were recommended for it, it would
generally die and lose its memory contents.  Reason - lithiums show high
until they are near death so the battery meter would seem fine but the
batteries were on the edge.  They would plunge keeping the memory
contents alive over a weekend.  And then the backup battery would also
die.  But it was a really innovative device and Geos was very similar to
win-ce in some respects but more efficient memory-wise from what I can
tell.

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 00:29:20 +0200
From: Alchemija 
To: Lars 
Subject: Interesting..

Hello all

Today I've thought out an idea ~~|-|
It's interesting if it's possible to use EXTERNAL fast modem with   =
HP100LX. Or there are any limitations by COM port or CPU? What is   the =
top most speed modem supported by HP100LX? I mean 100LX not   200LX

Or maybe there are some ways to slow-down modem by means of commands   or =
any software? For example: can I use 56 Data/Fax/Voice V.90 with   100LX? =
I'd like to use same modem with both machines :-).

Maybe there are any 33 Modems which support   protocol V.90? Or it is =
only 56 modem priority?  I'm fool in those "china.speach" protocols.

  "Computer user is not an occupation - it's diagnose"

Bye,
 Algis                         mailto:alchoma@is.lt



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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:11:12 -0500
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>> I have always thought that Switzerland must be an interesting country. As I
>> understand it, German, Italian, French and English are spoken by most
Swiss...
>> is this true, Avi?
>>
> I think Switzerland is an great country with great people.
> But I am not sure about languages spoken. Here in Los
> Angeles, where I live, most people speak some level of
> english, some spanish, and they grunt a lot :-) ...
>
Wups! Sorry, Avi - I had it in my head that you were from Switzerland, because I
thought I remembered you posting from a .CH domain. Maybe it was just a reply or
a forwarded message I saw.

Yeah, I have heard that LA is English-optional. But it's a lot more temperate
than Switzerland, even if the skiing is somewhat  disappointing.  :-)

Bruce in Toronto
"In cyberspace, nobody knows you're not Swiss."

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Too bad 123 doesn't give the average user a way to write their own @ functions
as Framework does.

Even a /RangeFormatHex type capability would be useful.

I'd also like to know if additional @ functions can be had anywhere.

- Longden





Chris Lott  on 01/27/2000 07:59:50 AM

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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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Subject:  Re: Lotus123 and Hexadecimal





these are all good ideas, I'm worried they may fall short of my true
need - to be able to examine large tables of numbers in 123 and easily
convert whole columns of numbers from decimal to hex and back.  I may
just resort to using my desktop for this single need (Excel can handle
this okay), but I was really hoping to use my palmtop entirely for the
project (this is the REX data analysis part of the project).  I
remember there were some add-ins for 123 that gave you extra @functions,
does anyone know if hex conversions were ever available?

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:50:52 -0800
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Helge,

I believe there are others who can comment on your problem in regards to causes
and possible fixes you can try.

I'll just point out that if you need to send your LX in for servicing, perhaps
you should consider Rundel instead (in Germany):

     http://www.rundel-d.com/palmtop/

- Longden





Helge Holm  on 01/27/2000 07:43:47 AM

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Can anyone help
me, or do I have to send the thing to Thaddeus? (I find the shipping cost
from Norway too high for minor problems like this.)

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Subject:      Re: Lotus123 and Hexadecimal
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> Too bad 123 doesn't give the average user a way to write their own @
> functions as Framework does.

I thought there was a provision, although I don't remember/know how
to do it.  I have written macros pretty extensively, and I thought
there was some mechanism to tie an @function to a macro - even it
it requires an external compiler of some sort.

Maybe I'm thinking of Symphony.  If so, it's too late. I threw out
a bunch of old 5-1/4 disks last month, my Symphony disks included.

-Chris



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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" 
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Subject:      Re: SSC - Latest Version?
Comments: To: Hal Goldstein 

Hi Hal,
>Sorry about the confusion of version numbers. We got the code as is, and
>therefore we can't change the versions number in the sw.

No worries; I fully understand that sort of thing happens; SSC is fantastic
... NOT some loosely cobbled together set of ideas.  You folks did the work,
research, etc. and integrated a LOT of things that I never would have taken
the time to figure out and do; then made it into a pretty darn easy to
install package.

That's my long version of: "THANK YOU!!! Worth Every Cent!"  Ýand, yes, you
can quote me ;-)¨

Your tech-folks were nice enough to email me the new .pgm file Ýjust days
ago; so it must be the latest¨.

re:
>The disk says 7.07 and that is the latest!

Ýthis goes back to the version numbers in the code¨ ... In, the "SCMenu
Carousel," when it says 7.02 on the left-top and 7.00 on the right-top of
the screen, is the left side reflecting the actual version I have installed,
or is it coded that way?

When I saw the two versions, I figured that you were "stuck" with the one on
the right-hand side and had the left-hand side report the "actual"
version..... Will anything show "7.07" on my palmtop?

It's working fine, just wanted to see if I had the latest of everything!

Thanks!

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Don't know what happened, but my 1Mb 200LX (stock 1x) started sucking down
batteries around the first of the year.  I had it plugged into AC power
and left the X-Jack 14.4 in it for quick dial-up e-mail work.  Normally
the batteries would last several months because is was always plugged in,
but now the main batteries drain from full to nothing in a couple of days.
I did all types of resets including the stone-dead-cold-reboot of no
batteries including backup for 24 hrs + holding 'ON' key.  This changed
nothing.  Is is time for repair, upgrade and maybe a backlight for this
unit?  As always, thanks for the advice.

Scott Dunaway
Carleton, Michigan
SDunaway@ford.com

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Subject:      CMCALC
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              2000 09:15:05 AM
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> Do you have the CMCALC program? It's the mother of all computer math
> calculators. Available on SUPER.

Ed:

WOW!  That's a far better calculator than the built-in hex calc.  My
only wish would be an enhancement to deal with decimal points.  To my
amazement, I've never seen a calculator (real or simulated) that will
display the "decimal"-point (really, this would be the hex-point,
binary-point, etc) when in non-decimal mode.  For exmample, there's no
reason not to accept the following:

  f43b.8000

and display it in decimal as:

  65523.5

and vise-versa.  One other "nicety" would be the capability to convert
decimal values to the various IEEE floating-point formats.

Anyway, what you pointed out to me is an excellent program as-is, and
I'll be using it from now on for my various binary calculating needs.
Thanks,

-Chris


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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:09:10 -0500
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Hi friends,

To all who (try to) connect theri LX via cellular
phone and IR to the internet:

most of you know that a few of us are trying to make it possible to
connect the LX via IR and cellular phone with the internet.
If you don't know the problem, please visit
daniel.hplx.net/hplxir/index.html .

Now we would like to know why the connection sometimes works without
big problems and without modifying the LX, and why it sometimes doesn't
work at all, even with modification of the LX.
Please anwer the following questions and send it back to me OFF
LIST(!).

====================================

0. Does your HPLX <--> IR <--> cell phone <--> internet connection
   work?

1. What Palmtop do you use (100LX/200LX/700LX/1000CX)

2. What Cellular phone do you use?

3. What's the serial number of you palmtop? (somewhere on the back,
   should look like SGxxxxxxxx)

4. What software version of the cell phone do you have?
   (on Siemens phones the version # is shown after pressing *#06# and
   after that the left key under the display - son't know if it's the
   same on Nokia and other phones - if someone knows, please report)

5. Did you do any modification of the hardware before it worked?
   (shielding phone or LX or soldering the short-circuit between leg 2
   of the photo diode and GND into the palmtop or other modifications)

6. Did you test your error rate with Stefan Peichl's RING.COM? If not,
   please do it: Download RING from peichl.hplx.net, start it on the
   Palmtop, press enter to enter the debug mode, hold your cell phone
   near the palmtop (as if you wanted to connect both via IrDA, but
   son't make an IrDA connection!!!) and let
   the phone dial a number. RING will then show what characters are
   received by the IR circuits and how much chars per second are
   received. please describe what characters are received and what's
   the average error rate displayed in the upper half of the screen.

7. Does your phone have a metal-shielded body?

8. On what frequency does your phone transmit? (900/1800/1900 MHz?)

9. Has your palmtop ever been modified (repaired...) or is the original
   hardware inside it as it came from HP?

10. Which distance between HP-IR and phone-IR works best (if it works
    at all)?


Comments:

====================================

Thanks!
GTX
daniel

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Hi friends,

On my German 200LX this easter egg doesn't seem to be available... :-(
GTX
daniel

Peniel Romanelli wrote:
>
> We've had several posts about the squid game in the palmtop.  If you
> don't know about it already, there's an easter egg hidden in the game.
> As soon as you start it, type "gallery" (without the quotes) and you'll
> see photos of the HP-LX development team on the walls of the maze.
> Sadly, I've forgotten who's who...  Somebody posted the info quite a
> while back.

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              Ed Padin 
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Subject:      Re: SSC - Latest Version?
Comments: To: Hal Goldstein 

You guys may be able to use a disk editor to mess with the version numbers
in the binaries.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Hal Goldstein Ýmailto:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨
>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 7:21 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ SSC - Latest Version?
>
>
><<
>I've recently reloaded SSC 7 *with* the corrected file to run
>on the 64MB/DS
>machines. When I start the Configuration program, Power.PAK v.
>3.71 reports
>running before SSC (what's *that* critter anyway?) and it
>reports  Version
>7.00 in the top bar, when I start the SC Menu program it
>reports v 7.00 in
>the Left-hand side; but v 7.02 on the right side of the screen
>(I figure
>this is normal).
>
>Is there a newer, all (or almost all) shareware updated
>version of SSC out
>there; perhaps SSC-8 is in the works at Thaddeus?>>
>
>Sorry about the confusion of version numbers. We got the code
>as is, and
>therefore we can't change the versions number in the sw. We've
>shipped the
>latest version of SSC and SC since Nov 98.  The disk says 7.07
>and that is
>the latest!  No new version is likely to come out.
>
>Impt SSC users: if we installed it, no problem. If you install
>it from the
>CD, be sure to follow the instructions and install the disk
>version of the
>.pgm file over the CD version to get 7.07.
>
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Hi Tim,

<>

Thanks much. I appreciate it since (in all modesty) I put SSC together.
It was a LOT of work, but it was a lot of fun.

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<>

Good idea, but our contract prohibits it.

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Pardon me if this seems redundant, but what kind of load is on the LX when it
does the "drain from full to nothing in a couple of days".

Are you still running the X-Jack, but now under batteries?
Is there any other unusual load on the PCMCIA slot?  (network card, possible
defective flash, etc)
Are you maybe running DOS apps constantly with the serial port powered?
(Ctrl-Filer/F6/"Enable" is checked)

Any of the above could potentially cause a fast drain.

Also, have you verified this with a tested set of fresh batteries?

If none of the above, then sorry, I haven't a clue either, and you've already
tried the only remedy I know of.

- Longden





Scott Dunaway  on 01/27/2000 09:28:56 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond
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Subject:  Huge Battery Drain!




Don't know what happened, but my 1Mb 200LX (stock 1x) started sucking down
batteries around the first of the year.  I had it plugged into AC power
and left the X-Jack 14.4 in it for quick dial-up e-mail work.  Normally
the batteries would last several months because is was always plugged in,
but now the main batteries drain from full to nothing in a couple of days.
I did all types of resets including the stone-dead-cold-reboot of no
batteries including backup for 24 hrs + holding 'ON' key.  This changed
nothing.  Is is time for repair, upgrade and maybe a backlight for this
unit?  As always, thanks for the advice.

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-----Original Message-----
From: David Ball 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
Date: Thursday, January 27, 2000 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: HP Omnigos...


>Hmmm....how does the handwriting recoginiton feature work?  That was the
>most interesting feature of the unit.  One wonders why it never picked up
>versus the Palmpilot, then.

The Handwriting recognition on the Omnigo is the SAME as the the PalmPilot,
it uses Grafitti, except you can draw anywhere on the screen instead of just
a
writing area like on the palm.   IMO the Omnigo died for a few reasons....

Battery Life and unreliability... The Omnigo used a 16mhz CPU, etc... and
drew
considerably more power than the old 100/200lx's... HP's solution for this
was to
recommend lithium batteries... with which it would give about 15 hours...
but
lithium batteries have a sharp discharge curve so when the Omnigo popuped up
with a low battery warning you had better change them NOW or you will loose
everything.

The Screen... They used a 240x240 square LCD screen on the Omnigo's and it
was non-backlit AND VERY low contrast... They tried to update that on the
120
with their 'holographic' screen but overall the Omnigo's suffered from
needing to
squint to see things in most lighting conditions.

The battery is the one that did the unit in for most folks that I know
though, once you
loose everything once or twice... after being used to the HP 100/200's
battery life and
its time to switch. :)

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


>
>Thanks for the information.
>
>On 2000-01-23 David Sargeant said:
>   >The Omnigo 100/120 are much less useful than the 200LX as a palmtop
>   >computer; smaller screen, weird keyboard, no AC adapter port,
>   >etc.  However, they run GEOS, and so there are some cool programs
>   >for them.  The Omnigo 700LX is a completely different beast: it's
>   >like a 200LX, but bigger and with a built-in docking cradle for a
>   >Nokia GSM phone (or the 2190 in the US).  Bill Childers reviewed
>   >the OG700LX at:
>   >http://www.hplx.net/reviews.og700.html
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              A Meshar 
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Longden Loo wrote:
> >Here in Los Angeles, where I live, most people speak some
> >level of english, some spanish, and they grunt a lot :-) ...
>
> On the road, the natives here are also especially expressive with body language
> (particularly with the fingers).
>
> I understand that every gesture has a meaning .

Indeed! :-)

The new topic of "road rage" and its adjunct "parking lot
rage" are also indicating that language can extend to even
usage of various implements from tire irons to guns.

I stay with grunts and drive to the back of the parking
lot, then walk :)

  Avi

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Bruce Martin wrote:
> >> I have always thought that Switzerland must be an interesting country. As I
> >> understand it, German, Italian, French and English are spoken by most
> Swiss...
> >> is this true, Avi?
> >>
> > I think Switzerland is an great country with great people.
> > But I am not sure about languages spoken. Here in Los
> > Angeles, where I live, most people speak some level of
> > english, some spanish, and they grunt a lot :-) ...
> >
> Wups! Sorry, Avi - I had it in my head that you were from Switzerland, because I
> thought I remembered you posting from a .CH domain. Maybe it was just a reply or
> a forwarded message I saw.

No problem. I was "from Switzerland" at least twice last
year when I returned from there back to LA :-) --- so you
are partially right there.

I enjoyed Switzerland a lot. A nice, organized country,
with lots of nice people, and they seem quite cooperative
and friendly. I also got to see wonderful things in my last
trip: The autumn colors of fantastic trees, magnificent
views of the lake in Zurich. I met great people there,
enjoyed wonderful culinary experiences. And I walked, A
LOT! That really did good for me.

> "In cyberspace, nobody knows you're not Swiss."

ROFL... A part of me stayed in Switzerland... really. I
like this country.

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<>

We have a few less than 100 left. We are saving them for 8, 32, 64, 96 meg.
We may have some 2 to 4 meg upgrades.

Note we would have sold them all in early December if we hadn't saved them
for upgrades.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:54:19 -0500
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              "Striegel, Alan" 
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There was one base conversion program that did handle the fractional parts
correctly.  I had gotten such a program for my TI SR-52 programmable
calculator back when I was in college.  I'm sorry I don't have it anymore.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Lott Ýmailto:rclott@RO.COM¨
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 1:00 PM
>...
>My
>only wish would be an enhancement to deal with decimal points.  To my
>amazement, I've never seen a calculator (real or simulated) that will
>display the "decimal"-point (really, this would be the hex-point,
>binary-point, etc) when in non-decimal mode.  For exmample, there's no
>reason not to accept the following:
>
>  f43b.8000
>
>and display it in decimal as:
>
>  65523.5

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> The resource pool shows Expanded Ram: 288k         Extended Ram :  0K
> Disk File as Ram: 1248K   for a total of 1536k.   Is this enough?  BTY, =
I
> have a 32m palmtop and have SC on a 48meg flashcard..

How much is enough depends on how many work areas you have and how big =
they
are.  Add up the size of all your work areas and add 16K extra per work =
area.
For example, I have 6 work areas that are 512K each.  512K x 6 =3D 3072 =
plus 16K
x 6 =3D 96 for a total of 3168K of resource pool space required.  Be sure =
to
include your system RAM (probably around 600K) as part of your available
resource pool.  So, I would need a disk file of 2568K plus my 600K of =
System
RAM for my example setup described above.

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> I managed to get ACT! 1.11 for the LX. This version is for a Windows =
ACT!
> counterpart.

I have heard that the palmtop version of Act! doesn't know that 2000 is a =
leap
year.  So it won't recognize Feb 29, 2000.  This will throw off the dates =
after
that.  Since I don't actually have the program, consider this a rumor =
until you
confirm it.

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              Ed Padin 
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From:         Ed Padin 
Subject:      Re: CMCALC

I'm curious, why would you need hexadecimal fractional numbers? or negative
hex numbers for that matter?

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Striegel, Alan Ýmailto:Striegel@PIOS.COM¨
>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 2:54 PM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ CMCALC
>
>
>There was one base conversion program that did handle the
>fractional parts
>correctly.  I had gotten such a program for my TI SR-52 programmable
>calculator back when I was in college.  I'm sorry I don't have
>it anymore.
>
>Alan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Lott Ýmailto:rclott@RO.COM¨
>Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 1:00 PM
>>...
>>My
>>only wish would be an enhancement to deal with decimal points.  To my
>>amazement, I've never seen a calculator (real or simulated) that will
>>display the "decimal"-point (really, this would be the hex-point,
>>binary-point, etc) when in non-decimal mode.  For exmample, there's no
>>reason not to accept the following:
>>
>>  f43b.8000
>>
>>and display it in decimal as:
>>
>>  65523.5
>
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> I'm curious, why would you need hexadecimal fractional numbers? or negative
> hex numbers for that matter?

I work in the embedded processor world, where frequently we have to work
with binary fixed-point values as opposed to normal floating-point
numbers common in the desktop world.  Same for negative numbers, sometimes
the quantities or values we represent are negative.

-Chris

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              "Striegel, Alan" 
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I found the following on the web at
http://www.ultisoft.demon.co.uk/langfams.html

The world's most spoken language is Mandarin.
English is the second most spoken language in the world, the most
widespread, the language of technology, the language with the largest
vocabulary.

And from another place:
http://www.odyssey.net/subscribers/english/engcons8.html

According to a leading reference work, the following ten languages are the
most widely spoken with their number of speakers in parentheses:

Mandarin Chinese (901 million)
English (451 million)
Hindi-Urdu (377 million)
Spanish (360 million)
Russian (291 million)
Arabic (207 million)
Bengali (190 million)
Portuguese (178 million)
Malay-Indonesian (148 million)
Japanese (126 million)

-----Original Message-----
From: Sidney Ho Ýmailto:SKYHO@CSI.COM¨
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2000 5:25 PM
>
>English is increasingly the lingua franca worldwide. The British colonized
>half the world, the Allies won WWII, the accelerating proliferation of the
>American economic and cultural juggernaut and now the net. Lazy emails,
>...

>Europe has a solution:
>...

This reminds me of an item written by Mark Twain about our spelling.

        A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling
                       by Mark Twain

For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be
replased
either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the
alphabet.  The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch"
formation, which will be dealt with later.  Year 2 might reform "w"
spelling,
so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might
well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j"
anomali
wonse and for all.

Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5
doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing
vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants.  Bai Iear 15 or sou,
it
wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" --
bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch",
"sh",
and "th" rispektivli.

Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl,
kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

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              Jon Barrett 
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> Date:    Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:19:38 -0600
> From:    Chris Lott 
> Subject: Re: Lotus123 and Hexadecimal
>
> > There's a Hex calculator already in the 200  - d:\bin\hexcalc.exm - is
that
> > any use to you?
>
> Yes, I use it.  Although I am disappointed about its lack of standard
> features.  The X<>Y key doesn't work, nor does the LASTX key.
>
ÝF9¨ is Swap, the same thing as ÝX<>Y¨; excessive use of HP's RPN/RPL
machines will show all kinds of ways to work around the ÝLastX¨ issue, such
as ÝF9¨ÝEnter¨Ýoperation¨ÝO¨. Not as simple, I agree. Since HexCalc is an
exm, how about doing a macro to preserve last X, or for moving results
between HexCalc & Lotus?

Jon

Jon Barrett
jonzann@altavista.net
Adjusting to the shock of Isopoint/Glidepad on
500MHz Omnibook 900B and NT4
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              Jan 2000 17:13:58 -0500 (EST)
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Greetings, list.

This seems to be a fundamental question, but I haven't been able to get
an answer from the FAQs.

How do I transfer files from the LX to the laptop IBMPC using the IR
ports in each device?  Is there any solution (for any PC operating
system)?

Thanks
-Rick

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A 15M Sandisk compact flash card did that to me a year or
so ago.  Try it a few days with the modem in only when needed.

Ron

>
> Don't know what happened, but my 1Mb 200LX (stock 1x) started sucking =
down
> batteries around the first of the year.  I had it plugged into AC power
> and left the X-Jack 14.4 in it for quick dial-up e-mail work.  Normally
> the batteries would last several months because is was always plugged =
in,
> but now the main batteries drain from full to nothing in a couple of =
days.
> I did all types of resets including the stone-dead-cold-reboot of no
> batteries including backup for 24 hrs + holding 'ON' key.  This changed
> nothing.  Is is time for repair, upgrade and maybe a backlight for this
> unit?  As always, thanks for the advice.
>
> Scott Dunaway
> Carleton, Michigan
> SDunaway@ford.com
>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:31:30 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Rick S wrote:

> This seems to be a fundamental question, but I haven't been able to get
> an answer from the FAQs.
>
> How do I transfer files from the LX to the laptop IBMPC using the IR
> ports in each device?  Is there any solution (for any PC operating
> system)?

I do this all the time without problems. However, keep the following in
mind:

1. Don't go higher than 33.6kbps on the LX as the transfer becomes
unstable (might be different on a double speed unit). At least this goes
for the built-in Datacomm application using Zmodem to transfer files.

2. If the laptop runs Windows and has IR-DA drivers installed then they
might interfere because they're continously "scanning" for other IR-DA
devices (If you start Datacomm on the LX, set up the IR mode, and point
the LX IR port at the IR port in the laptop you should receive "garbage"
characters on the LX). The scanning can IIRC be disabled in the "Infrared"
settings in the Control Panel.

Windows might not be the only OS to have this problem, but frankly I'd be
surprised ;-)

Regarding how to transfer, I've used the internal Datacomm program as well
as Transfile200, the transfer program that used to be available from HP's
home page. In both cases, the computer's IR port was mapped to a serial
port, such as COM3. This is usually done in the computers BIOS, although
it usually is by default I guess.


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:52:06 -0500
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              Russel Brooks 
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Ted Brown wrote:
> The resource pool shows Expanded Ram: 288k         Extended Ram :  0K
> Disk File as Ram: 1248K   for a total of 1536k.   Is this enough?  BTY, I
> have a 32m palmtop and have SC on a 48meg flashcard..

If you have a T2T 32M palmtop then I recommend you put ALL of your SC
resource pool in Expanded memory provided by the TREMM.EXE driver that
came with your 32M LX.  Splitting your pool just adds complexity and is
probably slower too.

What I did...
 - Boot dos without SC and without Tremm expanded memory.
 - Erase the old SC pool swap file and the Tremm pool file.
 - Run CONFIG /F to clean up any errors before continuing.
 - Run Optimize to defrag your disk.
   This allows the big Tremm file (created next) to be contigious.
 - Run Instemm.exe to create a new bigger file for Tremm's expanded
   memory.
 - Run SCCONFIG.EXE and change the SC resource pool to all in expanded
   memory.

I created a 4M file on the 32M C: drive for expanded memory.
This is more than my 4 full size SC sessions really need but the extra
will be available as expanded memory for other programs if needed.
Having too much expanded memory available also allows SC to grow
easily as needed.

cheers... Russ

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              David Eggins 
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Hello


Is this a good price?  What are they normally worth?

Can I dock this with the 200LX and download/upload data to it?

Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Tom Salwasser
> Sent: Thursday, 27 January 2000 13:26
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: REX 3 $32 w/docking station
>
>
> I just bought a REX 3 with docking station for $32 from CDW. They had 60
> more in stock with another 200 coming in soon.
>
> www.cdw.com
>
> or 1-800-800-4239 x7154
>
> Tell Haidi that Tom Salwasser told you to call. d;-)
>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:51:06 +0100
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The easiest is Transfile from www.palmtop.net.

-goe-

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick S 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2000 23:14
Subject: IR Port


>Greetings, list.
>
>This seems to be a fundamental question, but I haven't been able to get
>an answer from the FAQs.
>
>How do I transfer files from the LX to the laptop IBMPC using the IR
>ports in each device?  Is there any solution (for any PC operating
>system)?
>
>Thanks
>-Rick
>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:47:21 -0500
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              Systems-Consulting 
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New products in original packaging.

8 pcs left in stock

HP P/N  My P/N   Description                  Price

F1011A  974202   AC/DC ADAPTER FOR THE 200LX  36.00

Shipping for up to 2 pcs in USA $ 3.20

Credit Card, Money Order or Check



Thanks,

Paul Anderson, President, Systems-Consulting
89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701
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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:10:40 -0800
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Bob,

I have the various versions. Act for dos is not Y2K
compliant. Likewise Act for Windows v.2 is not is not Y2K
compliant. And ACT for the HP is not Y2K compliant.

Bob Christopher wrote:
>
> I managed to get ACT! 1.11 for the LX. This version is for a Windows ACT!
> counterpart. Oddly enough, it doesn't function due to lack of the
> requisite Contacts.db1 file(s). The Read.me indicates that there was a
> version 1.1 that worked with the DOS ACT! as its PC counterpart. If
> anyone on the list has the version 1.1 please send it as an attachment
> to an email to me. Also, If anyone is running the 1.11 version could you
> send me the Contact.db1 file(s) so I can try both versions out? Thanks.
>
>   Bob
>
> Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
> email mailto:bc@chisp.net          website http://chisp.net/~bc
>
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              David Sargeant 
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Patrick West wrote:

> I have the various versions. Act for dos is not Y2K compliant.
> Likewise Act for Windows v.2 is not is not Y2K compliant. And ACT for
> the HP is not Y2K compliant.

ACT is a Symantec product, right?  And Symantec is still around ... how
about the threat of a class-action lawsuit to galvanize their programmers
into coming up with a patch?  

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Steve Carder wrote:

> I have heard that the palmtop version of Act! doesn't know that 2000 is a leap
> year.  So it won't recognize Feb 29, 2000.  This will throw off the dates after
> that.  Since I don't actually have the program, consider this a rumor until you
> confirm it.
I have it. You can trick it to accept 2/29/2000 but is
messes up the days and thinks 3/1/2000 and 2/29/2000 are the
same date.




>
> Steve Carder
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 00:31:16 -0000
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              "Brown, William" 
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I'm afraid to say that if (as I did) you already tried the 'take out all the batteries and leave it a few days' then I think you will need what I needed; which was back-to-base repair.  HP repaired mine for $$$$$$ and it was fine.  This seems not unusual, I think I made it happen by overloading it - I'd been trying out a succession of modems to see what it could cope with.  I can only assume that there is something in the design that is (well I guess it's a plus!) so clever that when you do what would burn out an plain ordinary PDA it just degrades to a mains-only eat-your-batteries mode, as opposed to a dead lump.

Clever but expensive.  I suggest you try Thaddeus or Rundel once you've cleared the expenditure with your personal financial advisor (usually the spouse).

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              "Brown, William" 
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I'm surprised that you are finding such demand for new LX's; did you see a surge of people buying backup machines when HP pulled the rug, or did you always sell several hundred a month?

Can I ask that you give this list about 6 months notice for when you plan to stop doing upgrades?  It may not be soon, but it's sure to be a spur to doing it.

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              David Sargeant 
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From:         David Sargeant 
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC wrote:

> Hi David!
>
> Noticed in one of your postings that you've got a nice and simple line
> like:
>
> >On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Perry Frayn wrote:
>
> in your posts.  Which email program do you use Ýis this on your LX¨
> and what is the "code" for such a clean line.  I like that MUCH more
> than the ones that read more like:

I use Pine on a Linux machine to do this.  I think that PC Pine for DOS
will run on the 200LX, but not sure.  The alternative is to use LXTelnet
or Telnet/LX to log into a Unix shell account (hplx.net may soon be able
to offer free shell accounts for palmtop users ... we'll see if I can get
that set up) and do mail from there, which is generally what I do.  It
means no offline mail reading and composition, but that's usually okay,
and when I need that, there's always Post/LX.  :)

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:25:42 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise 
Subject:      Re: Lotus123 and Hexadecimal

Chris Lott writes:

> these are all good ideas, I'm worried they may fall short of my true
> need - to be able to examine large tables of numbers in 123 and easily
> convert whole columns of numbers from decimal to hex and back.


What about using Norton's Disk Editor?  It shows hex on one side
and decimal on the other.  The DOS version I have from about 1990
(V4?) runs just fine on my 2X 200LX.

Ted

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I thought I had bookmarked the site with all the icons for use on the LX. Can
anyone send me the link again? Thanks.

  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
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              David Ness 
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David Eggins wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> Is this a good price?  What are they normally worth?
>

It is about the going rate.

>
> Can I dock this with the 200LX and download/upload data to it?
>
> Dave
>

No, not today except by going via a PC with all that attends that.

There is currently a `project' going on to allow direct REX/200LX
movement of meaningful data. Those working on the project are optimistic
about their liklihood of success. I, personally, am pessimistic, but
would be quite happy to be wrong.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 20:08:14 -0700
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              Bob Christopher 
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My mileage definitely varied. In two sessions over two days I struggled with
the IR file transfer, trying the transfers at various speeds. Although the
slower speeds proved more reliable, there were constant errors and loss
of connections. I opted for the connectivity cable and have had very good
results running the PC com port and LX com port at 9600. Above that speed
there were connection losses though not as many as with the IR cable.
I was running Transfile 200 on my desktop PC attempting to transfer to my
200LX 8mb DS with a 20mb Sandisk.


  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
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From:         Chris Lott 
Subject:      Re: REX 3 $32 w/docking station
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> There is currently a `project' going on to allow direct REX/200LX
> movement of meaningful data. Those working on the project are optimistic
> about their liklihood of success. I, personally, am pessimistic, but
> would be quite happy to be wrong.

Just a quick update on the project.  I've been wrestling with the CONTACTS
data format for the past couple of days.  Thanks to the several different
contributions from other users of their memory dumps, I've been making
some significant progress.  Just today, I discovered what much of the
mysterious CONTACTS header data means.  The entries themselves are about
80% decoded - just some indices or pointers that I have yet to solve.

I was getting discouraged myself yesterday, but this latest breakthrough
is encouraging.

Another data point - I have also tested the rexwr program that Mack
wrote for me.  It takes a binary image of your REX and writes it to
the device.  I have successfully been able to "clone" my device to
look like other folks' units entirely from the palmtop - even with
hot-swapping!  So the actual data shuffling isn't a problem - just
understanding the format.  The calendar and todos are pretty well
documented already, and I've been focusing on the most difficult one,
the Contacts.

More as I learn it.

Chris

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> Use "I" in the nominative case.  When it is the subject of the sentance.
> Use "my, mine" in the posessive case.  Indicating posession (+some).
> Use "me" in the objective case.  When it is the object of the sentance.
>
> Therefore:
>
> It was me.  That was me.  I wrote fluff.


That isn't how I learned it in Missouri!  When using a form of the verb =
to be
(ie is, are, was, were, be, being, been) then both nouns/pronouns are
nominative.

Therefore:

In the sentence "It bit me" the objective form (me) is used but in the =
sentence
"It was I" both "It" and "I" are nominative.

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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> <>
>
> We have a few less than 100 left. We are saving them for 8, 32, 64, 96 meg.
> We may have some 2 to 4 meg upgrades.
>
> Note we would have sold them all in early December if we hadn't saved them
> for upgrades.

Sad, very sad.  Demand and no product.

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              Peniel Romanelli 
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Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:16:48 -0500 (EST)

01h25m30s ago ...
On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Bob Christopher wrote:

> I thought I had bookmarked the site with all the icons for use on the =
LX. Can
> anyone send me the link again? Thanks.

http://www.palmtop.net

Click on "Icon server"


HTH

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Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:22:08 -0500
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I probably am missing the point, but once I had a SanDisk card (5mb
for IIRC $300+ back then) and a Simple Tech card (40mb for about $150)
issues of `transfer' or `IR connect' disappeared with the ability to
keep all important information on the cards, and the ability to keep
complete copies of the cards on all of my laptops and desktops.

In other words, the `backup' problem disappeared with the ability to
move information in significant quantity via the PCMCIA slot. At the
same time the `update' problem disappeard with the ability to run
CPACK on my `other machines' directly on my PCMCIA disks.

Bob Christopher wrote:
>
> My mileage definitely varied. In two sessions over two days I struggled with
> the IR file transfer, trying the transfers at various speeds. Although the
> slower speeds proved more reliable, there were constant errors and loss
> of connections. I opted for the connectivity cable and have had very good
> results running the PC com port and LX com port at 9600. Above that speed
> there were connection losses though not as many as with the IR cable.
> I was running Transfile 200 on my desktop PC attempting to transfer to my
> 200LX 8mb DS with a 20mb Sandisk.
>
>   Bob
>
> Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
>

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> If you have a T2T 32M palmtop then I recommend you put ALL of your SC
> resource pool in Expanded memory provided by the TREMM.EXE driver that
> came with your 32M LX.  Splitting your pool just adds complexity and is
> probably slower too.

I do almost the opposite.  I have SC use only a disk file and save all of =
my
expanded memory for my other programs that use it.  Either way, I agree =
that
have all of your SC resource pool in one place reduces complexity.

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I'm not sure that's true, Fred. It's not much different perhaps than the
current situation v-a-v, for example, 1960 MG Sports Cars.

After their `useful life' many products start to acquire a premium
price. This _doesn't_ (by any means) mean that the decision to quit
production was ill-made. Today, boxes of `Post Toasties' often sell
at premiums of many 100's or 1000's of times their original shelf
prices. But it doesn't mean that the decision to quit production was
improper.

So `Demand and no product' isn't `sad'. It is the very nature and
definition of `art'. Today `Post Toasties' boxes are `art' not
`cereal'. As a long time 200Lx user, I'd say the same thing about it.

"F. Kaufman" wrote:
>
> > <>
> >
> > We have a few less than 100 left. We are saving them for 8, 32, 64, 96 meg.
> > We may have some 2 to 4 meg upgrades.
> >
> > Note we would have sold them all in early December if we hadn't saved them
> > for upgrades.
>
> Sad, very sad.  Demand and no product.
>

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Hmm,

I wonder if they will be able to upgrade 1000cx's with backlight/memory
upgrades
once the 200lx's go from rare to collectors item. :)     I have a 100lx and
a 1000cx now
so Im outta luck on 200lx upgrades otherwise  :(

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

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>> <>
>>
>> We have a few less than 100 left. We are saving them for 8, 32, 64, 96
meg.
>> We may have some 2 to 4 meg upgrades.
>>
>> Note we would have sold them all in early December if we hadn't saved
them
>> for upgrades.
>
>Sad, very sad.  Demand and no product.
>
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, David Ness wrote:

> So `Demand and no product' isn't `sad'. It is the very nature and
> definition of `art'. Today `Post Toasties' boxes are `art' not
> `cereal'. As a long time 200Lx user, I'd say the same thing about it.

Except that the demand for palmtops isn't for their "art."  It's to do
things with them.  The demand, as far as I know, has never ceased for
200LXes from Thaddeus, has it, Hal?

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The left edge of the display has shifted about 0.1 inches to the right and the
right most 0.1 inch and right edge has wrapped around to the left side -- most
disconcerting. How can I correct it?

Aloha - bob     \ooo_

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Stikes me that what one man views as `art' is often viewed by someone
else as `necessity' or `for some purpose'.

I have no doubt that most of the purchasers of `art' buy because (in
their life) it is to `do things with it'...

Others view the purchase of `art' as `something I need' as a curiosity,
with moderate amusement...

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Except that the demand for palmtops isn't for their "art."  It's to do
> things with them.  The demand, as far as I know, has never ceased for
> 200LXes from Thaddeus, has it, Hal?
>

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Helge Holm wrote:
>Problem 1
>My 200LX is blanking out 3-4 vertical stripes on the left side, and 2
>stripes on the right side of the screen. If I press the border (on the
>"HP"-logo to be exact) above the blank stripes, the screen is OK for a
>while, but the stripes reappear after a minute or so. I suspect the stripes
>to be caused by bad contacts somewhere inside the screen.

So is there a crack near the right hinge, on top when the lid is
closed? The missing vertical line symptom is typical of the hinge
crack causing display solder joints to fatigue and crack, if I
understand it right. The Thaddeus people fixed mine, I assume by
re-heating the solder to seal the cracks (and by replacing the cracked
top cover).

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, David Ness wrote:

> Stikes me that what one man views as `art' is often viewed by someone
> else as `necessity' or `for some purpose'. I have no doubt that most
> of the purchasers of `art' buy because (in their life) it is to `do
> things with it'... Others view the purchase of `art' as `something I
> need' as a curiosity, with moderate amusement...

Hmm.. okay.  The original point, I think, was whether or not HP made a
good or bad decision in discontinuing the palmtop.  That's debatable, but
I don't think sales at Thaddeus have slacked off, and the demand is strong
for a usable product that does what none of the "current" machines will
do, but the supply is no longer there.  I don't believe for one minute
that the 200LX is selling better now that it's been discontinued, like a
collector's item or something.

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Oh. I do. I think lots of 200s are currently being `put away' by
folks who (perhaps smarter or perhaps not) want to `insure' their
`future supply'. But then again I lived through the Millenial gasoline
shortage of 1973...

I have a friend who bought two Corvettes every year for the past
(only God knows) how long. I can assure you it's not because he needs
to drive that many miles. But he does feel that the always wants to
be able to drive those miles in a Corvette.

I don't argue with him about the efficacy of transportation.

David Sargeant wrote:
>
> Hmm.. okay.  The original point, I think, was whether or not HP made a
> good or bad decision in discontinuing the palmtop.  That's debatable, but
> I don't think sales at Thaddeus have slacked off, and the demand is strong
> for a usable product that does what none of the "current" machines will
> do, but the supply is no longer there.  I don't believe for one minute
> that the 200LX is selling better now that it's been discontinued, like a
> collector's item or something.
>

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, David Ness wrote:

> I have a friend who bought two Corvettes every year for the past (only
> God knows) how long. I can assure you it's not because he needs to
> drive that many miles. But he does feel that the always wants to be
> able to drive those miles in a Corvette. I don't argue with him about
> the efficacy of transportation.

Well, let's find out.  How many people on the list are buying extra
palmtops to put away in case they're unavailable later?

Personally, I think most of us are counting on them being available in
plentiful supplies on eBay once prolink and johnnydean (or whoever) cut it
out.  Now those guys and their companies may be doing exactly what you
describe above.  But I think they're in the minority.  It wasn't until
THEY came on the scene that the price of 20LXes elevated to that of
"collector's item."

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Helge Holm wrote:
>
> Problem 1
> My 200LX is blanking out 3-4 vertical stripes on the left side, and 2
> stripes on the right side of the screen. If I press the border (on the
> "HP"-logo to be exact) above the blank stripes, the screen is OK for a
> while, but the stripes reappear after a minute or so. I suspect the stripes
> to be caused by bad contacts somewhere inside the screen.
>
> Problem 2
> Some times (more and more often) I have to "twist" the machine to get the ON
> switch to work. It seems to be a poor contact as well.
>
> I assume that I am not the first to experience this, and hope that someone
> on the list already have found solutions to these problems. Can anyone help
> me, or do I have to send the thing to Thaddeus? (I find the shipping cost
> from Norway too high for minor problems like this.)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Helge Holm
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Hi Helge

I had the same problem you can press on the back and lines are gone

a few mins later it's back. Mine got so bad that I had to sent it to
Thaddeus computing it cost me $175.00 to repair it.

maybe other LX'S can tell you what is wrong and maybe they can tell

you how to repair it, some of the LX'S told me how to repair it but

I know nothing about the insides of the 200lx and I did not want to take

a chance and screw it up so away it went to Thaddeus. They did an

excellent job. the screen looks new or clean but any way no more lines.

                          Think about it

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A hex dump like from Norton would only show the hex value of the ascii
representation of the number.  So for example, the number '1' would show as
x'30' rather than as the correct x'01'.

In other words, it's a character by character translation and not a true base 10
to base 16 conversion of a number, which is what I believe Chris is after.

The number 12 should be x'0c', but its text representation would display under a
dump as x'3132'.

- Longden





Theodore Heise  on 01/27/2000 09:25:42 AM

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Chris Lott writes:

> these are all good ideas, I'm worried they may fall short of my true
> need - to be able to examine large tables of numbers in 123 and easily
> convert whole columns of numbers from decimal to hex and back.


What about using Norton's Disk Editor?  It shows hex on one side
and decimal on the other.  The DOS version I have from about 1990
(V4?) runs just fine on my 2X 200LX.

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I totally agree.  I think that people buying them as
collectors items are going to sadly disappointed
whenth price drops thru the floor.

Buying an "extra one" at a good price is not a bad
idea, provided that it's a good price.  But I think
anything over $200 or so is not worth it as the prices
used to be around that area (on ebay) and definately
will be again.

There are far more 200LX (assuming that the lowest
estimate of 1/2 a million is accurrate) than alot of
items that are no where near collectors status.

Buy it because you like it, or buy it as a backup, but
buy it at a good price or don't bother (and just wait
a month or two).

Just my 2 cents.


--- David Sargeant  wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, David Ness wrote:
>
> > I have a friend who bought two Corvettes every
> year for the past (only
> > God knows) how long. I can assure you it's not
> because he needs to
> > drive that many miles. But he does feel that the
> always wants to be
> > able to drive those miles in a Corvette. I don't
> argue with him about
> > the efficacy of transportation.
>
> Well, let's find out.  How many people on the list
> are buying extra
> palmtops to put away in case they're unavailable
> later?
>
> Personally, I think most of us are counting on them
> being available in
> plentiful supplies on eBay once prolink and
> johnnydean (or whoever) cut it
> out.  Now those guys and their companies may be
> doing exactly what you
> describe above.  But I think they're in the
> minority.  It wasn't until
> THEY came on the scene that the price of 20LXes
> elevated to that of
> "collector's item."
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Questor Jones wrote:

> I totally agree.  I think that people buying them as collectors items
> are going to sadly disappointed whenth price drops thru the floor.

I think the people paying huge prices are not buying them for collection,
in general, but for spare units for their corporations.  Prolink said as
much.

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Dan Ridenhour wrote:

> I wonder if they will be able to upgrade 1000cx's with
> backlight/memory upgrades once the 200lx's go from rare to collectors
> item. :)  I have a 100lx and a 1000cx now so Im outta luck on 200lx
> upgrades otherwise :(

There should be no problems putting a backlight in a 1000CX.

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> The hplx freezes when the command prompt should just flash by and bring
> me back to the applicationmenu. The above batchfile is run with maxdos.
...
>
> Tomas have you had this problem?

I think so. I vaguely remember something like this.
I think (dont whant to start anny rumors) that it happened when I did
something odd with lxcic and MaxDos - maybe?
Try to run it without MaxDos and see what happends.


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                       Uppsala

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Are You going to try this at school?
My bet is that they only have TCP/IP and not NetBeui nor IPX installed.

> What network are you connecting to? I have a Windowsnetwork that I will
> try (again) to connect to and map drives.. I was not successfull the
> first time I tried..

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Tomas  wrote:

> Are You going to try this at school?
> My bet is that they only have TCP/IP and not NetBeui nor IPX installed.

Now I will try this at home..but I do not know if I bother..To much
hassle when I really do not need it.

I do not think that I will manage to connect school..only tcpip here I
think..

Thanks I will try the other tip (chrash/maxdos/lxcic) now and see if
it works without maxdos..

Bye..




> > What network are you connecting to? I have a Windowsnetwork that I will
> > try (again) to connect to and map drives.. I was not successfull the
> > first time I tried..

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Hi everyone!

This is my first letter on this list. Forgive my grammar - I'm still learning.
I'm using (please dont laugh) HP95LX because 200LX is to expensive for me.
But maybe one day, who knows... Maybe someone have broken one - I'll take it with
bright smile and try to fix it.
But seriously - I'm looking for a memory card to my 95LX? Any suggestions?

  Few facts about foregin language education in my country (Poland). We have
obligatory one or two languages in secondary school (four years) and on the
university courses (three to four years) always ended with exam. It is almost
always English, French, Deutsh sometimes Russian, Italian but could be also
Japanese or Chinese.

That is theory - in practice if you try to find on the street person who know any
foregin language...good luck!
But it's changing - I'm studying computer sciences on University of Lodz - if I
want to find ANY job it's obvious that I must know English. The same situation is
on today job - market: you must know English or German/French or both languages if
you want to find good job.

  "Computer+languages=big money" ;-)

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Tomas wrote:

> > The hplx freezes when the command prompt should just flash by and bring
> > me back to the applicationmenu. The above batchfile is run with maxdos.
> ...
> >
> > Tomas have you had this problem?
>
> I think so. I vaguely remember something like this.
> I think (dont whant to start anny rumors) that it happened when I did
> something odd with lxcic and MaxDos - maybe?
> Try to run it without MaxDos and see what happends.

It works when I don't use maxdos.

The next question is of course how to automate this: Terminate Sysmgr
and start eth.bat and then start 200 when I exit Www/lx.

Can this be done? It is not much work to run closeall.exm and then
eth.bat and then 200, but I would like a automated thingy I can run
from a icon..

TIA

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1. Is Transfile 200 the only software that will automatically link to the
LX and
    allow file transfers via cable from a desktop PC to the LX?

2. Any recommendations for an external PCMCIA reader/writer for the desktop
PC?
    (I ran out of 16 bit ISA slots a long time ago :)

  Bob

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              2000 07:32:10 -0500 (EST)
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David Ness wrote:

> I probably am missing the point, but once I had a SanDisk card...

> ...the `backup' problem disappeared with the ability to
> move information in significant quantity via the PCMCIA slot.

You are not missing the point, David.  I am new at this, and I don't
have any cards or cables yet (they are on order).

It just seems to me that since the IR ports exist on both devices, they
should be useable.  I would like all methods of data transfer to be
available to me.

Anyway, I'm still struggling with the IR idea, without much success.  At
the moment my goal is modest: to get keystrokes from a PC terminal
program to appear on the LX running the datacomm built-in.

My PC IR port can be configured in CMOS to use one of four protocols:
"Standard," "FAST IR," "IrDA," and "ASK 500 KHz."  I will try each of
them today.  Does anyone know whether any of these protocols is the one
the LX uses?  Thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 05:34:44 -0700
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              Bob Christopher 
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David,

You are not missing the point at all. But keep in mind that most desktop PC's
don't have PCMCIA reader/writers. Also, the idea of packing a lightweight
cable and a floppy disk with Transfile (or another transfer program) creates
a situation whereby one can transfer files anywhere at anytime. Sorry if
I didn't elaborate on the mobile aspect, I should have.

  Bob

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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Bob Christopher wrote:

> 1. Is Transfile 200 the only software that will automatically link to the
> LX and
>     allow file transfers via cable from a desktop PC to the LX?

No. There's LXtools for Linux/UNIX, which was also ported to DOS. The DOS
version is only beta, though, and I don't know if the porter had the time
to finish it (the beta is quite old by now)

> 2. Any recommendations for an external PCMCIA reader/writer for the desktop
> PC?
>     (I ran out of 16 bit ISA slots a long time ago :)

Well, you could use CompactFlash in the LX (via an adaptor) and buy an USB
CF reader or something like that...



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Longden Loo writes:
> A hex dump like from Norton would only show the hex value of the ascii
> representation of the number.

Good point, Longden.  That's what I get for not checking it out
before posting.

Ted

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David Sargeant writes:

> Well, let's find out.  How many people on the list are buying extra
> palmtops to put away in case they're unavailable later?

I have a backup unit (2M 200LX) that I bought 2 years ago--well
before HP announced discontinuing the 200LX.  I plan to have it
upgraded to 32M, 2X, and backlight as soon as the backlight option
as available.  (and as soon as I've saved up enough pennies! :)

Ted

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Steve Carder writes:

> That isn't how I learned it in Missouri!  When using a form of the verb to be
> (ie is, are, was, were, be, being, been) then both nouns/pronouns are
> nominative.
>
> Therefore:
>
> In the sentence "It bit me" the objective form (me) is used but in the sentence
> "It was I" both "It" and "I" are nominative.

I think Steve has it right.  If I recall correctly, the I in, "It
was I." is called a predicate noun.

Ted

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>1. Is Transfile 200 the only software that will automatically link to the
>LX and
>    allow file transfers via cable from a desktop PC to the LX?


No, there is a program called ZIP (nothing to do with PKZIP) on
www.palmtop.net

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>ACT is a Symantec product, right?  And Symantec is still around ... how
>about the threat of a class-action lawsuit to galvanize their programmers
>into coming up with a patch?  


Perhaps, that's why it became freeware

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Was there a light source in the near?

-goe-

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Freitag, 28. Januar 2000 04:14
Subject: Re: IR Port


>My mileage definitely varied. In two sessions over two days I struggled
with
>the IR file transfer, trying the transfers at various speeds. Although the
>slower speeds proved more reliable, there were constant errors and loss
>of connections. I opted for the connectivity cable and have had very good
>results running the PC com port and LX com port at 9600. Above that speed
>there were connection losses though not as many as with the IR cable.
>I was running Transfile 200 on my desktop PC attempting to transfer to my
>200LX 8mb DS with a 20mb Sandisk.
>
>
>  Bob
>
>Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
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I would try the "Standard" or "ASK"

-goe-

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Freitag, 28. Januar 2000 13:32
Subject: Re: IR Port


>David Ness wrote:
>
>> I probably am missing the point, but once I had a SanDisk card...
>
>> ...the `backup' problem disappeared with the ability to
>> move information in significant quantity via the PCMCIA slot.
>
>You are not missing the point, David.  I am new at this, and I don't
>have any cards or cables yet (they are on order).
>
>It just seems to me that since the IR ports exist on both devices, they
>should be useable.  I would like all methods of data transfer to be
>available to me.
>
>Anyway, I'm still struggling with the IR idea, without much success.  At
>the moment my goal is modest: to get keystrokes from a PC terminal
>program to appear on the LX running the datacomm built-in.
>
>My PC IR port can be configured in CMOS to use one of four protocols:
>"Standard," "FAST IR," "IrDA," and "ASK 500 KHz."  I will try each of
>them today.  Does anyone know whether any of these protocols is the one
>the LX uses?  Thanks.
>
>-Rick
>
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Hi!

Is NT capable of switching Drives on and off at runtime at all? I thought this
would not be possible=2E

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Hi!

This is, what I read in the Doku of PNS200:

PNS200 V1=2E3 - Point and shoot from FILER on the HP200LX
-------------------------------------------------------

There is an undocumented feature of the HP200LX palmtop computer, that
allows to start a DOS application from FILER by pointing to a data file
and pressing ENTER=2E It is possible to specify the DOS application to be
started in a file called C:\_DAT\FILER=2EINI=2E The following is an example
of a FILER=2EINI file:

ÝLauncher¨
ZIP=3Da:\bin\pkunzip=2Eexe %
ICN=3Dd:\bin\icn200lx=2Eexe %
DAT=3Da:\bin\list=2Ecom %

The part before the "=3D" specifies a file extension and the part after
the "=3D" specifies the command to be executed whenever a file with that
extension is selected=2E The '%' is replaced by the name of the selected
file=2E If you have installed the above FILER=2EINI file, select a file
named 'EXAMPLE=2EICN' and press ENTER, the icon editor (icn200lx) is
started=2E



But how do I start the internal programs on e=2Eg=2E =2EGDB-files? How can I reac=
h the
database application=2E It is in the ROM=2E How can I reach them?

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              "Souza, Stephen Mr (C623D)" 
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No, NT can not switch drives. There are some third party software that
handle PC Card interfaces and correct the problems that NT has but native NT
does not handle removable drives correctly.

Stephen Souza
System Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
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> From: Martin Doering ÝSMTP:Martin_Doering@MN.MAN.DE¨
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 08:45
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Problem with SanDisk in windows NT.
>
> Hi!
>
> Is NT capable of switching Drives on and off at runtime at all? I thought
> this
> would not be possible.
>
> Martin
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Steve Carder wrote
> That isn't how I learned it in Missouri!  When using a form of the verb =
> to be
> (ie is, are, was, were, be, being, been) then both nouns/pronouns are
> nominative.

You may be right.  Rereading that section is a bit opaque.
The difference in usage was determined by the comments "In
conversation" ... and "In standard literary English" ...
in that section of the handbook.  Still looks odd to me (I? (g)).

Depends on your estimate of the HPLX list as a literary work
and the phrase "generally accepted".  I guess I'll have to
reread that section again, or find another reference.

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> On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Bob Christopher wrote:
>
> > 1. Is Transfile 200 the only software that will automatically link to =
the
> > LX and
> >     allow file transfers via cable from a desktop PC to the LX?

NO. X-Finder makes this easy.  It uses a small server program on the
desktop or laptop.  The palmtop acts as client, the big machine as
server.  Transfer is controlled in a split-screen resembling Filer,
with the palmtop files on one side, and the PC files on the other.  You
simply use the XF copy function just as if you were doing an internal
copy.


HTH

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Where do you get xfinder?
Regards,

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Several connection choices exist, depending on your needs, resources and
patience:

1) HP Connectivity Pack (aka Cpack) software
2) Transfile 200
3) XFinder
4) Laplink remote
5) Interlnk/intersvr (from DOS 6.2)
6) Zip program (from the SUPER site)
7) Datacomm (builtin) and a terminal emulator (Terminal in Win 3.1,
HyperTerminal in Win9x/NT)

There may be others too.

- Longden





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1. Is Transfile 200 the only software that will automatically link to the
LX and
    allow file transfers via cable from a desktop PC to the LX?

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> Well, let's find out.  How many people on the list are buying
> extra palmtops to put away in case they're unavailable later?

I bought a spare, but that's mostly to have as a backup in case the main one
needs to be shipped off for repair.

I learned that after several painful experiences that left me without an LX, but
it never really occurred to me to hoard them till recently.

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> Several connection choices exist, depending on your needs, resources and
> patience:

Ýsnip¨

But not all of these will "automatically link to the LX", most require you
transfer the program to the LX and set it up first. The ones that do are
usually the ones that are compatible with the transfer protocl used by the
Filer, such as Transfile, and the connectivity kit (I imagine)


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I guess I'm always skeptical of the "automatic" thing.  All the choices require
a setup (baud rate, port, etc), and I didn't want to imply that the magic just
happens when the wires are connected and the programs started.  The closest to
that was actually (I think) interlnk, which polled the different I/O ports
looking for a matching response from the other machine, and adjusted the
baudrate on the fly.

Even the "no-brainer champs", Transfile/Cpack requires setting up communications
in Filer correctly.

There's no denying that some options require more work than others, but the
details are wasted unless the exact needs and resources are known.

- Longden





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> Several connection choices exist, depending on your needs, resources and
> patience:

Ýsnip¨

But not all of these will "automatically link to the LX", most require you
transfer the program to the LX and set it up first. The ones that do are
usually the ones that are compatible with the transfer protocl used by the
Filer, such as Transfile, and the connectivity kit (I imagine)

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1 why doent anyone seem to like the Jornada?

2. Why is there a lack of software to synch with the lx and outlook 98 etc?

Thanks
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> why doent anyone seem to like the Jornada?

To many of us, it represents a bitter triumph of form over function, especially
given that many of us find DOS eminently useful for our needs.

While the Jornada's overall technology is likely a step forward from the 200LX,
its functionality amounts (to me) a "dumbing down" of what's available on the
200LX.

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Anyone interested in buying an omnigo 100 I have 2 of them. In good condition
a connectivity pack 1 set of books and lots of software. Let me know.
TX
Roy

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:07:24 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff 
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Hi everyone,

Does anybody know how/if it is possible to include all the
headers in a message when replying to or forwarding it?

For instance, when reporting spam, it's helpful to include
all the headers in addition to the actual message. When I
edit a message using PE under Post/LX, the headers are not
included (naturally enough) and, as far as I can tell, all
traces of them are completely removed.

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:16:00 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
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Martin,

> But how do I start the internal programs on e.g. .GDB-files? How can I =
reac
> h the
> database application. It is in the ROM. How can I reach them?

The PNS200 doc describes pretty well, where PNS200 comes in. I don't
recall the doc.

My filer.ini GDB part looks like this:

ÝLauncher¨
ZIP=3Dc:\bin\pns200.exe %
WK1=3Dc:\bin\pns200.exe %
ADB=3Dc:\bin\pns200.exe %
PDB=3Dc:\bin\pns200.exe %
GDB=3Dc:\bin\pns200.exe %
NDB=3Dc:\bin\pns200.exe %

next you need pns200.ini within the directory c:\_dat

the relevant part here:

ÝMatch¨
...
*.adb=3D1
*.pdb=3D2
*.gdb=3D3
*.ndb=3D4
*.wdb=3D5
*.wk1=3D6
*.zip=3Diu
*.fax=3Daw
*.*=3Dechlpvms

ÝMenu¨
...
1=3DAppointment
2=3DPhone
3=3DDatabase
4=3DNotes
5=3DWorld Time

ÝPatch¨
m=3Dc:\_dat\memoed.env 72
1=3Dc:\_dat\apptbk.env 0
2=3Dc:\_dat\phone.env 0
3=3Dc:\_dat\db.env 0
4=3Dc:\_dat\note.env 0
5=3Dc:\_dat\world.env 0

ÝAction¨
l=3Dc:\bin\list.com %s
m=3Dc:\bin\ks.com \$\Mf1
e=3Dc:\bin\maxdos.com "c:\pe\pe.exe %s"
1=3Dc:\bin\ks.com \@
2=3Dc:\bin\ks.com \#
3=3Dc:\bin\ks.com \C\#
4=3Dc:\bin\ks.com \C\$
5=3Dc:\bin\ks.com \c\)

I assume you have KS.COM in the directory c:\bin. You might extend the
keyboard buffer with kbuf128.sys within config.sys.

Regards

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:36:21 -0800
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>>But how do I start the internal programs on e.g. .GDB-files?
>>How can I reach the database application. It is in the ROM.

>The PNS200 doc describes pretty well, where PNS200 comes in. I don't
>recall the doc.
>My filer.ini GDB part looks like this:
>ÝLauncher¨
>ZIP=c:\bin\pns200.exe %
>WK1=c:\bin\pns200.exe %

>next you need pns200.ini within the directory c:\_dat

FWIW, I think the main reason I went with OPEN vs PNS200 was that the latter
needed another INI file, and hence was more trouble to setup.

OPEN works entirely with filer.ini and while it suggests using kbuf128.sys in
some cases (especially 123 files), for the most part it doesn't need it.

To be fair, PNS200 probably has more features, but OPEN was simpler.

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> On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Bob Christopher wrote:
>
> > 1. Is Transfile 200 the only software that will automatically link to the
> > LX and
> >     allow file transfers via cable from a desktop PC to the LX?
>
> No. There's LXtools for Linux/UNIX, which was also ported to DOS. The DOS
> version is only beta, though, and I don't know if the porter had the time
> to finish it (the beta is quite old by now)

Well, there is also the official HP Connectivity Software.  It works in
a window in Win95/98 due to its graphics nature.  I don't know the part
number.

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> But how do I start the internal programs on e.g. .GDB-files? How can I reac
> h the
> database application. It is in the ROM. How can I reach them?

You need to fool Filer.ini and use Keystuff which may be on the
supersite.

The issue with my following lines is that keystuff was either hp100
specific or I patched keystuff to work with the hp200 in a certain way
so you may have to tweak some of the lines:

PDB=a:\bin\ks200.com @$@9%/
    ;phone F9 flnm enter
;GDB=a:\bin\ks200.com @c@$@9%/
    ;ctrl-phone F9 flnm enter
GDB=a:\bin\dbv.exe %
WDB=a:\bin\ks200.com @c@(
    ;ctrl-calc F9 flnm enter
NDB=a:\bin\ks200.com @c@¬@9%/
    ;ctrl-memo F9 flnm enter

STA=a:\bin\ks200com @(@cL@MFO%/

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Stephan Goeldi wrote:

> Perhaps, that's why it became freeware

Drat!  Good point.  Did anybody on the list PAY for the palmtop version of
ACT?

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Can the CONTACTS handle subsets?  I almost bought a REX this
week until I realized the FAQs did not mention subsets, on
which I depend daily.

Domingo

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Just a quick update on the project.  I've been wrestling
with the CONTACTS data format for the past couple of days.

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Check the docs for built-in emulations.  You should be able
to print to this printer from any DOS program which supports
one of the built-in emulations.

Domingo

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Hi,

I've just bought a small Canon BJC-1000 to use with my
Windoz machine and would love to be able to use it to print
from the HP, but unfortunately no Joy.

The docs only mention Windoz drivers, no mention anyway of
any other OS! Anyone else had any joy with this or any other
bubble jet and the HP?

Regards

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              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
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Longden,

> OPEN works entirely with filer.ini and while it suggests using kbuf128.s=
ys in
> some cases (especially 123 files), for the most part it doesn't need =
it.
>
> To be fair, PNS200 probably has more features, but OPEN was simpler.

PNS200 became one of the most often utilities here:

   POST/LX OPEN/SAVE attachments on keystroke
   XFINDER
   WP Filer
   etc.

It is very worthwhile spending little time in setup.

Regards

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Well troubleshooting a problem with my 200 LX I stumbled on the Morphy
project.

Does anyone know any english sites on this topic?

What is the general feeling from the group about this unit?

regards, Perry

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Perry Frayn wrote:

> Does anyone know any english sites on this topic?

Doesn't the www.morphyone.com site have English info?

Mike has some info on it at games.hplx.net ... but I forget the exact
URL...

> What is the general feeling from the group about this unit?

I'd gladly accept one as a gift from anybody traveling to Japan...   It
should be a VERY cool unit, if it actually gets built.

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>PNS200 became one of the most often utilities here:

>   POST/LX OPEN/SAVE attachments on keystroke
>   XFINDER
>   WP Filer
>   etc.

>It is very worthwhile spending little time in setup.

A matter of opinion.

I don't use Post/LX,  nor XFinder (and what's WP Filer?), and  I'm probably one
of the last persons NOT using Software Carousel (the Luddite's Luddite ).

What specific benefits does PNS200 give me over OPEN?

OPEN lets me do point and shoot handling of files in Filer and lets me create
icons in HDM or AppMgr to open a specific file, and there's no RAM TSR needed
except the 544 byte kbuf128 (which is optional), and no other file needed except
filer.ini.

- Longden (who's not even from Missouri)

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2000 1:01 PM
Subject: CMCALC


> > Do you have the CMCALC program? It's the mother of all computer math
> > calculators. Available on SUPER.
>
> Ed:
>
> WOW!  That's a far better calculator than the built-in hex calc.  My
> only wish would be an enhancement to deal with decimal points.  To my
> amazement, I've never seen a calculator (real or simulated) that will
> display the "decimal"-point (really, this would be the hex-point,
> binary-point, etc) when in non-decimal mode.  For exmample, there's no
> reason not to accept the following:
>
>   f43b.8000
>
> and display it in decimal as:
>
>   65523.5
>
IIRC the HP-16 would convert between floating point and IEEE hex
representation. Unfortunately there is somewhat less standardization on
hexadecimal numeric representation for real numbers than there is for
integers, where you only need to worry about unsigned, 1s or 2s complement,
big-endian vs. little-endian. I did write a program for my HP-41 at one
point to convert between S/370 floating point representation and real
numbers. Can't remember if it was just single or both single and double
precision. Never got around to writing one for Intel floating point
representation. As for fixed point, I think most (obviously not all)
programming work with that is done in assembler, COBOL or
PL-I using BCD.

Jon

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Isopoint/Glidepad, but I miss the Paw, on
500MHz Omnibook 900B and NT4
 - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - -


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> Can the CONTACTS handle subsets?  I almost bought a REX this
> week until I realized the FAQs did not mention subsets, on
> which I depend daily.

There is something akin to subsets, but they are pre-defined.  And
there seems to be a limit of 5 maximum of them.  By pre-defined, I
mean you have to chose ahead of time which 5 subsets you want loaded
into the REX - and I *think* that the all-inclusive subset called ALL
counts against your total of 5.  This may or may no meet your needs.

-Chris

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At 04:46 PM 1/26/00 -0600, you wrote:
>In Central Alabama, Spanish seems to be profilerating..... I'm not sure if
>this is good or bad, the consensus, it seems, is that it is bad. It's really
>weird, we even have Spanish commercials on TV now.......

I pity that consensus, then.  The central fact that all of the these posts
have ignored is that English will soon cease to be the *only* dominant
language in this country.  Those of us who live in the Southwest understand
that multilingualism is the wave of the future.  If you think English will
be the only language you will encounter on a semi-regular basis, you are in
for a shock.


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Hi All,

Does anyone know how to set up an icon, which is associated with a text
document, so that it will launch and load into the ROM-based 'Memo'
application? That is, what do you put in the 'Path:' field inside the 'Edit
Application' screen, to launch Memo rather than a DOS-based editor?

Thanks,
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David Sargeant wrote:

> > Does anyone know any english sites on this topic?
>
> Doesn't the www.morphyone.com site have English info?
>
> Mike has some info on it at games.hplx.net ... but I forget the exact
> URL...

As I downloaded a couple of Mike's games I have it still in my memory,it =
is:

http:// games.hplx.net


And yes there was a link to morphy one.

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Hi Chris and Bruce,

>When I first bought my 200LX, I used a similar program called CLOSEUP
>to dial into a computer they had setup at our office.  We could check
>local LAN e-mail on it, and also access files on the local server.
>It was pretty easy to get the client program, CREMOTE, to work on
>the palmtop.  Even though I haven't done that in years, know it can
>be done.

The main problem is that those old DOS based remote access programs can't
handle echoing graphics based screens. Since DOS windows within Windows
95 and higher are actually graphical representations of a DOS screen,
those programs have some real problems echoing those windows. If you put
your desktop machine in true DOS mode, you'd have no problems, at all,
but that is rather inconvenient and can be dangerous.

While using a Windows 95 machine in true DOS mode (16 bit mode), it's
dangerous to do a lot of things in true DOS (16 bit mode) while on a 32
bit drive. While in true DOS mode, all changes to the drive's directory
structure and files are not being made with a 32 bit aware operating
system.

There is one possible perfectly safe solution. A fully maximized DOS
window (full screen) can be echoed, but it's not without some minor
problems. A full screen DOS window can be created upon bootup for use on
the desktop machine by placing a properly configured DOS window shortcut
into the startup folder. That would also allow one to actually run a
specialized utility on the desktop machine that can be launched from a
DOS command line to remotely cause the desktop machine to reboot.

My original concern was whether the HP200LX could adequately display an
echoed screen from a desktop PC. It appears from Bruce's experience that
the HP200LX does indeed do an adequate job of displaying a remote true
DOS screen for text based applications, so it might be worth looking
further into the possibilities it might open up for the HP200LX. :-)

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:00:11 -0500, Peniel Romanelli  =
wrote:

> Fri, 28 Jan 2000 09:49:40 -0500 (EST)
>
> > On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Bob Christopher wrote:
> >
> > > 1. Is Transfile 200 the only software that will automatically link =
to the
> > > LX and
> > >     allow file transfers via cable from a desktop PC to the LX?
>
> NO. X-Finder makes this easy.  It uses a small server program on the
> desktop or laptop.  The palmtop acts as client, the big machine as
> server.  Transfer is controlled in a split-screen resembling Filer,
> with the palmtop files on one side, and the PC files on the other.  You
> simply use the XF copy function just as if you were doing an internal
> copy.


Spoken like a true X-Man. (:-)

You heard of the rest, now try the best! "X-Finder R. 10 and X-Finder =
Server"



X-Finder Server (for IBM PC) is a software to establish a
remote link between the X-Finder and an IBM compatible PC. An
HP-LX and an IBM PC is connected with a RS-232C serial cable.
The IBM PC works as remote drives and a remote acceralator for
the HP-LX.

X-Finder R.4 or later should be used as a client software on
the HP-LX.

Ý2¨ Features

Advantages:
o Runs within a DOS window supplied by Windows95 (runs also
  within a minimized DOS window).
o Reads and writes FAT32, if you run on Windows95 OSR2 or
  later.
o Works as a remote accelarator.
o Runs also on XT, AX (Japanese old standard) and Toshiba's
  Dynabook series.


The current version (R.10) with English documentation is available at:
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/index.htm
both are also available on The SUPER.

Got it, now Get it!




Regards,

Qman...
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Lars Hedstroem wrote:

> As I downloaded a couple of Mike's games I have it still in my
> memory,it is: http://games.hplx.net And yes there was a link to
> morphy one.

Heh heh... yes, I knew it was games.hplx.net.  I just can't remember
exact URL to the Morphy One pages.

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Hi,

Just see, http://www.morphyone.org/release/rel19991115.shtml .

It is old information but should help you to image what is it...
They put their power more on to development of Morphy One and
organaizing OHPA than make a information by english.

P.S. OHPA = Open Hardware Palmtop computing Association
     Actualy it will establish as japan local.

Perry Frayn  wrote
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Well troubleshooting a problem with my 200 LX I stumbled on the Morphy
> project.
>
> Does anyone know any english sites on this topic?
>
> What is the general feeling from the group about this unit?
>
> regards, Perry
>
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:21:15 -0500, Striegel, Alan wrote:

>According to a leading reference work, the following ten languages are =
the
>most widely spoken with their number of speakers in parentheses:
>
>Mandarin Chinese (901 million)
>English (451 million)
>Hindi-Urdu (377 million)
>Spanish (360 million)
>Russian (291 million)
>Arabic (207 million)
>Bengali (190 million)
>Portuguese (178 million)
>Malay-Indonesian (148 million)
>Japanese (126 million)

My gut feeling tells me there's something wrong there. I accept Mandarin =
as
top of the list, but surely English has more regular users? Where is
=46rench, and how come there are so many Japanese speakers?

--=20
Neil Tungate 
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Longden,

> A matter of opinion.

Very true!!! A matter of opinion.

Regards

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Thanks for all the help.  Its time for a repair.  It is draining
batteries with nothing in the card slot and power off.  How are those
backlights coming along??

Scott Dunaway

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:23:15 -0500
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Hi Dave,

you should be able to print to the BJC1000 (only text) without a
driver. What you need is a serial to parallel converter, because the LX
has got a serial interface and the BJCprobably has a Centronics
(parallel) interface. (unless you use either a parallel port PCMCIA
card or the printer also has got a serial interface - I don't know the
BJC1000. I have got a BJC 4100, and it works with the s->p converter.).

If you also want to print graphics, you need special drivers. Every DOS
program uses another driver, so you should loook if you can get a
driver for every single program you want to print graphics from.

Since you probably won't get graphic drivers for the (new developed?)
BJC1000, you have
to search for drivers for 100% compatible models. I e.g. need drivers
for the canon bj300 or something like that to make my BJC4100 print
graphics from DOS programs. I could imagine that you need the same
drivers, since the whole BJ/BJC series models seem to be compatible, except
that you can only print black and white with BJ drivers (the C in BJC
stands for COLOR), but that should be OK if you print from the palmtop.

d-cripps wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just bought a small Canon BJC-1000 to use with my Windoz machine and would love to be able to use it to print from the HP, but unfortunately no Joy.
>
> The docs only mention Windoz drivers, no mention anyway of any other OS! Anyone else had any joy with this or any other bubble jet and the HP?

GTX
daniel

P.S.: I just looked onto canon's website - the BJC1000 has got a
parallel interface, so you need a serial to parallel converter or a
PCMCIA parallel port card.
it should be compatible with the other bj/bjc models.

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Hi friends,

thanks for your numberous answers and for all your guesses.
Althoughh nobody knew exactly what my old computer part really is, it
was very interesting to hear what it _could_ be.

I'll leave the web site there for a few more months, so you could have a
second look if you get another idea ( daniel.hplx.net/temp/index.html )

Thanks a lot

GTX
daniel


> I recognize the black finned heat-sink towers from when I worked for
> Amdahl in the early 1980s.  Amdahl sold IBM 370 System-compatible
> computers which were entirely air-cooled.  The architecture and design
> of the systems was done by Amdahl, but the implementation utilized
> Fujitsu wafer and packaging technology.  As I recall, Fujitsu sold the
> Amdahl systems and their own variants outside of the United States.

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Hi Bob,

Bob Graham wrote:
> The left edge of the display has shifted about 0.1 inches to the right and the
> right most 0.1 inch and right edge has wrapped around to the left side -- most
> disconcerting. How can I correct it?


Sounds like you have got a doublespeed unit that doesn't load the
double speed driver.
If this is the case, you have to make sure that the double speed driver
is loaded out of config.sys or autoexec.bat.
It's name is spd31s.sys or spd31.exe (or with different numbers - I
think they show the version number of the driver).

GTX
daniel

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>If you think English will be the only language you will
>encounter on a semi-regular basis, you are in
>for a shock.



Well said David!  My only concern will be how to order my enchilada and frijoles
      in Mandarin .

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If you have the OPEN.EXE program from SUPER, your "Path:" field could be setup
something like this:

Path: a:\utl\open.exe  c:\refs\book.txt

and Memo will kick up and open book.txt.

- Longden





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Hi All,

Does anyone know how to set up an icon, which is associated with a text
document, so that it will launch and load into the ROM-based 'Memo'
application? That is, what do you put in the 'Path:' field inside the 'Edit
Application' screen, to launch Memo rather than a DOS-based editor?

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Subject:      Moving to Windows CE not so bad ( was:  Availability of New HP200
              LXs at Thaddeus?

I have to say that I'm on my way to joining the Windows CE crowd. After
hearing so many 'windows CE sux!!' posts I never considered it but then I
saw a sale on the Phillips Nino at Onsale. I got an 8MB unit for
80+shipping. I traded for a CF card and paid $35 for XT-CE. Now I can do
almost all of the things I used to do with my 200LX plus some I could never
do. I don't want to start a flame war but there has been a lot of OS bigotry
on this list. I think that going to a Windows CE platform is not a bad
alternative for someone that can't afford a 200LX.

All in all, I wish that I could merge the best features of both machines.


Here are my pluses and minuses with going to a palm nino over the 200lx:

Pluses:
Active Sync to Outlook is nice
Avantgo News Service (gets web content for offline reading)
Voice Recorder !! (very useful)
Can draw little notes
Some limited handwriting recognition
Backlighting
Cost
Small palm format
Sound is better
has a pointing device
It wakes up at thr right time when I have an appointment
(My 200lx appointment book never worked right. Many times if I had an
appointment that day it wouldn't 'sound off' until the next time I turned it
on.)
shareware SSL browser available

Minuses:
Big pain in the ass to enter info!(no keyboard)
XT-CE Dos is slower than 1X 200LX
Built in apps slower than 200lx apps
Built in apps also not as powerful as 200lx's
Less software(especially freeware) available.
Alkalines get sucked up quick!
(although, interestingly enough, the rechargeable pack lasts a really long
time...)

Similarites
Pocket C programming language (pretty powerful yet easy 2 use. If you want a
'real' C language then you can get gcc for windows CE)
SpreadCE spreadsheet (Free excel compatible but no charts or macros)
freeware Notepad editor
TASCAL LHA freeware program with  xfiler-like features
tascal explorer with  xfiler-like features
Runs DOS (and Foxpro 2.6!!!)
Calendar, tasks, contacts, etc.
Can use a regular zoom 14.4 pocket modem
Alarm clock software
freeware browsers, mail clients,
Pocket streets map program (almost as good as LXMAP)



>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Sargeant Ýmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
>Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 1:00 AM
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Availability of New HP200LXs at Thaddeus?
>
>
>On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, David Ness wrote:
>
>> I have a friend who bought two Corvettes every year for the
>past (only
>> God knows) how long. I can assure you it's not because he needs to
>> drive that many miles. But he does feel that the always wants to be
>> able to drive those miles in a Corvette. I don't argue with him about
>> the efficacy of transportation.
>
>Well, let's find out.  How many people on the list are buying extra
>palmtops to put away in case they're unavailable later?
>
>Personally, I think most of us are counting on them being available in
>plentiful supplies on eBay once prolink and johnnydean (or
>whoever) cut it
>out.  Now those guys and their companies may be doing exactly what you
>describe above.  But I think they're in the minority.  It wasn't until
>THEY came on the scene that the price of 20LXes elevated to that of
>"collector's item."
>
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Chris Randle  wrote:

> Is there a "layer of indirection" between the DOS cluster on a
> PCMCIA or CF card and the physical location on the chip used
> to store the info?
>
> Reason I ask is that if there isn't and you frequently defrag
> said card, forcing all your data into the "top" clusters of
> the card, are you in some way defeating any automatic wear
> levelling built in to it?

That is a good question.  I know that the IBM flash cards used
by ACE Technologies as thier Double Flash Plus cards had a
microcontroller on board that took care of wear leveling
automatically.

I have a feeling that the current model flash cards just have
so many write cycles per storage unit that "wear leveling" in
order to spread out the writing of over the entire space is
just not needed anymore.

But I would offer that defragging is just a waste of time and
energy with an all-electronic (non-mechanical) medium like a
Flashcard or RAMdisk.  I know the arguments about a degragged
file being easier to recover, but I know *I* will never try to
recover a file by digging into disk sectors, etc.


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On 28 Jan 2000 10:27:03 -0800, Perry Frayn  wrote:

> Well troubleshooting a problem with my 200 LX I stumbled on the Morphy
> project.
>
> Does anyone know any english sites on this topic?

Yes, http://games.hplx.net/features/morphyone.htm, as people
have mentioned. Unfortunately, there's very little there
that you probably don't already know because I don't speak
Japanese. However, it does show all the specs/relevant info
and some useful links so it might be worth a visit.

> What is the general feeling from the group about this unit?

My feeling is that it's potentially a very good successor to
the 200 LX, but we won't know for sure until it's actually
a reality.

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On 27 Jan 2000 05:18:43 -0800, Lars Hedstroem  wrote:

> I downloaded Galactic Battle and scored 14000 after a couple of tries,but the missils aren't they little too small?

Well, if the missiles were bigger, it would be far too easy!
;-)

> If I make a topscore,how do I confirm?

Up and down to change the letter, space to confirm.

P.S. I've just updated the site to add info about Elite (plus
a download link) and Computer Scrabble - Thanks to Alan and
Bruce respectively if you're listening!

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Martin,

There's no way to directly access the internal programs using the filer.ini,
unless you also use a utility that can access the ROM apps.

The OPEN program on SUPER does this for most apps.  The exception mentioned on
the list several days ago was Lotus 123, since German model LX's use different
keystrokes to retrieve a file in 123..... but other apps such as databases
should work fine.

On my filer.ini, for example, I have:

GDB=a:\utl\open.exe %

OPEN is a special LX specific program that understands LX related file
extensions and uses the keyboard buffer to simulate opening the app and loading
the selected file from Filer.

- Longden





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There is an undocumented feature of the HP200LX palmtop computer, that
allows to start a DOS application from FILER by pointing to a data file
and pressing ENTER. It is possible to specify the DOS application to be
started in a file called C:\_DAT\FILER.INI. The following is an example
of a FILER.INI file:

ÝLauncher¨
ZIP=a:\bin\pkunzip.exe %
ICN=d:\bin\icn200lx.exe %
DAT=a:\bin\list.com %

The part before the "=" specifies a file extension and the part after
the "=" specifies the command to be executed whenever a file with that
extension is selected. The '%' is replaced by the name of the selected
file. If you have installed the above FILER.INI file, select a file
named 'EXAMPLE.ICN' and press ENTER, the icon editor (icn200lx) is
started.

But how do I start the internal programs on e.g. .GDB-files? How can I reach the
database application. It is in the ROM. How can I reach them?

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David Sargeant wrote:

> Heh heh... yes, I knew it was games.hplx.net.  I just can't remember
> exact URL to the Morphy One pages.
>

OK,then I misunderstood you!

Well,I gave atleast Mike's homepage some free advertise 

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Well, I haven't bought a 200 since they have been discontinued.  BUT, I did
buy a 4 Meg a year ago on eBay for about $200 as a backup/replacement to my
5 year old 1 Meg.  Then last spring I traded some extra stuff I had for a 32
Meg doublespeed.  (WOW what a difference!)  Last summer I saw an ad in the
local paper and bought a brand new 4 Meg for a ridiculously low price.  I
had trouble not grinning too widely when I paid for it.  And then last
month, I bought a 700lx on eBay just because I was curious and it was cheap.
Now it seems that they are everywhere I look.  Keep your eyes open and you
can still get a good deal on our "collectables".
I know that I would have a hard time going a day without my "brain".  I'm
almost sure that I will  change to a different technology before I run out
of spare 200's.  But I'm glad I've got them, just in case.
bob
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>David Sargeant wrote:

>Drat!  Good point.  Did anybody on the list PAY for the palmtop version of
>ACT?
**********************
I did.  Back in '94 when I got my 200.  Got it installed and finally figured
out that the built in apps worked better for me than ACT.  I stopped using
ACT after just a few weeks.

bob
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>how come there are so many Japanese speakers?

There's a lot of people who can say Sony, Toshiba and Toyota .

A guide to Japan (http://www.japan-guide.com/list/e1000.html) says there's 125
million people there, so 126 million speakers is probably reasonable.

I won't vouch for the accuracy of the rankings tho.

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:07:24 -0500, Mike Wagstaff  =
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Does anybody know how/if it is possible to include all the
> headers in a message when replying to or forwarding it?
>
> For instance, when reporting spam, it's helpful to include
> all the headers in addition to the actual message. When I
> edit a message using PE under Post/LX, the headers are not
> included (naturally enough) and, as far as I can tell, all
> traces of them are completely removed.


The header information is there but its a separate file called
Post.Hed.

To see it while editing a message just hit next, to include it
in your forward message just do a cut & paste.


HTH




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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:25:10 -0800, Philippe Fryday  wrote:

> Anyone knows a good mailing list for WinCE? With a good bunch of people
> like this list?


Nope!

But here's:

WindowsCE Mailing List
send email to WindowsCE-Talk@WindowsCE.com with:
subscribe as the Subject:





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> Anyone have a PC 110 for sale or trade?


If you're still looking for a IBM PC110 visit try:
http://www.exec-decisions.com

or call

1-916-395-2021 (Sacramento, CA)


Used units were $250.00 (over clocked to 40mhz).
Comes with 8 megs, battery, and ac charger.

NEW in the box, never used were $350.00.


The above information was stored and retrieved with FFDB ver 1.00
available on The SUPER Site.



HTH




Regards,

Qman...
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Subject:      Pocket Quicken - Any advice?

Quick howdy to those who use a Windows Ýi.e. 2000¨ version of Quicken and
the PocketQuicken, built into the 200LX.

How do you folks use them in conjunction w/ each other?

I'm not looking for solutions - just asking how you fit the two into your
lives.

I used Quicken v. 6.0 for DOS forever (and could run it on my palmtop or
laptop w/ no differences); I discovered its Y2K limitations when I tried to
write a CheckFree check Ýfee-based draft service, for those not in the U.S.¨
for JAN 2000 and got, "You must enter a valid date"!!!!

I had to upgrade to Quicken for Windows. I just exported my checkbook into a
QIF and imported it into Pocket Quicken - not too bad ÝI've never used the
pocket version before¨.

Do those who use it just send QIF files to their palmtop and use that for a
portable reference, or do you often synch items done on the LX into the
windows version?

TIA,

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I did a search of the archives to make sure this hasn't been
discussed before, but didn't see anything about it.  Sorry if it has.
I'm on a wearable computer list and saw this about a small 486
computer..maybe it can be used as a replacement to the Palmtop:

--Ted

Anyone seen this yet? It's a complete family of embedded boards that
are really nicely priced. It looks like you could put together a
complete ethernet/vga system for about $300.

-Paul

> Hi, I have a link I thought you might be interested in.  I have been
> doing research on creating custom in-vehicle computers and was doing
> a lot of searching on the web.  While looking for info on PC104 and
> such I came across the Wear Hard list and your site.  As you can
> imagine the requirements for both fields are strikingly similar.
> Low cost, very small, low power consumption.  Anyway, I found a
> product that seems right up your alley and is surprisingly cheap.  I
> did a search on the archives and didn't see anyone talking about it,
> but I would be surprised if you hadn't heard of it.  Here it is,
> hope you find it useful.  If not, sorry to bother you.
>
> http://www.compulab.co.il/486core.htm
>


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> Where do you get xfinder?
>
Go to http://palmtop.net/supernew.html and use the search box to look for
"finder". This will bring up X-Finder R.9, XFS (the server program), a few other
XF utilities and a bunch of icon "theme" sets.

X-Finder R.10 is available at http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/FINDER.ZIP

X-Finder R.11Beta5 is available at
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/index.htm

You should be forewarned that X-Finder is much more than a file transfer program
- it's an icon-based replacement for Filer and AppManager, which also happens to
be a archive viewer, file viewer, GUI and more. Have fun!

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Does your mashine have "double speed"?
Rolf

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> Paraphrasing "The Macmillan Handbook of English" fourth edition, 1962.
>
> Use "I" in the nominative case.  When it is the subject of the sentance.
> Use "my, mine" in the posessive case.  Indicating posession (+some).
> Use "me" in the objective case.  When it is the object of the sentance.
>
> Therefore:
>
> It was me.  That was me.  I wrote fluff.
>
> American, US variety, currently in north west Florida.

Strictly speaking, the verb 'to be' takes the nominative case
as its object - it's an exception. Hence, for example, the
book "who's who" and not "who's whom". If you asked 100 people
whether one should say "it is I" or "it is me", I think you'll
find 99 going for the latter, although it is technically
wrong. English isn't alone in this, I know that Latin, Greek
and Czech are the same.

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On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Longden Loo wrote:

> I'll leave it to others to explain the consequences of not getting it right with
> the email client.
>

1) It can be professionally embarrassing/disastrous to
mail-shot a list of business contacts, only to discover that
each of them now knows all your other contacts.

I discovered the flaw in Post/LX's BCC just in time to prevent
the above, but not before...

2) I have a friend who, due to the nature of his work,
preferred that the establishment and country where he is at
the moment were not known to all and sundry. I have just spent
a humilating ten minutes on one international and one
long-distance call, apologising to him and his family for
transmitting this info to thirty other people.

I know that nothing in an e-mail should ever be relied on as
private, but I do hope that D&A will display a prominent
warning that Post/LX does not handle BCC correctly. My face is
still red from my faux-pas.

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:35:52 -0800
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From:         Donald Collins 
Subject:      Brass Brackets

Hi All,

Has anyone on the list ever made the brass brackets
to prevent/fix the hinge crack?  I started a few but
they look rather poor.  I'd be interesed in buying
a set if anyone has extra.

Also, would it create a problem for any upgrades,
such as back-lighting or memory?



Don.
Folsom, California

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:33:50 -0700
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              Bob Christopher 
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From:         Bob Christopher 
Subject:      ROM Apps, etc.
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1. Has anyone successfully ever backed up the ROM based apps in the LX?

2. Aside from config.sys and autoexec.bat are there other system files one
should
    backup?

3. Re icons: I downloaded several icons I want to use for various apps. I
noticed
    that there are several .icn files in the d:\bin directory. The D: drive
shows no
    space available. So where does one copy new .icn files in order for
them to
    show up as available in the app setup?


  Bob

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Steve -

> > If you have a T2T 32M palmtop then I recommend you put ALL of your SC
> > resource pool in Expanded memory provided by the TREMM.EXE driver that
> > came with your 32M LX.  Splitting your pool just adds complexity and is
> > probably slower too.
>
>I do almost the opposite.  I have SC use only a disk file and save all of my
>expanded memory for my other programs that use it.  Either way, I agree that
>have all of your SC resource pool in one place reduces complexity.

Lessee. You have a 32 (+2) DS machine. Have you tried EMM with it? I
find with my 64 (+2) DS machine that EMM seems to be faster even than
a disk file on the (fast) T2T 64MB drive.

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Jim Saklad wrote:

> Lessee. You have a 32 (+2) DS machine. Have you tried EMM with it? I
> find with my 64 (+2) DS machine that EMM seems to be faster even than
> a disk file on the (fast) T2T 64MB drive.

I agree; you're better off just using the extra drive space for the TREMM
paging file and just use some of the expanded memory for SC.  It really is
significantly faster to use EMS than to use SC's swap file.

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I guess I usnderstand that. It is, in fact, true in my situation.
I was about to add a PCMCIA reader/writer to my Desktop when I found
that my LAN, which I installed for Laptop/Desktop sync reasons, meant
that I effectively had access directly from my Desktop to _any_ of the
PCMCIA slots on all of my Laptops. So reading/writing the PCMCIA
card directly to my desktop ceased to be a problem, and I didn't even
have to buy a PCMCIA reader/writer.

If I didn't have the LAN, though, I sure would buy a PCMCIA
reader/writer for my desktop. It't too valuable to not have one
available...

Bob Christopher wrote:
>
> David,
>
> You are not missing the point at all. But keep in mind that most desktop PC's
> don't have PCMCIA reader/writers. Also, the idea of packing a lightweight
> cable and a floppy disk with Transfile (or another transfer program) creates
> a situation whereby one can transfer files anywhere at anytime. Sorry if
> I didn't elaborate on the mobile aspect, I should have.
>
>   Bob
>
> Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
>

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Rick,

The HPLX uses "standard" or "IrDA" protocols.  I would suspect "IrDA"
would work better.

HTH,
Tom


Rick S wrote:
>
>
> My PC IR port can be configured in CMOS to use one of four protocols:
> "Standard," "FAST IR," "IrDA," and "ASK 500 KHz."  I will try each of
> them today.  Does anyone know whether any of these protocols is the one
> the LX uses?  Thanks.
>
> -Rick
>
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Tom H wrote:

> The HPLX uses "standard" or "IrDA" protocols.  I would suspect "IrDA"
> would work better.

Uh ... are you sure?  I thought it used the "HP Serial IR" protocol by
default, or HPSIR.  I know there are IrDA add-on programs, but doesn't it
default to the proprietary HPSIR protocol?

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              Rick S 
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Thanks to all (on and off-list) who have been helping me.

I am making progress, but I still have a way to go.

The good news:
With the LX running DataComm, and the PC running Win98 with the IR
driver disabled, I go to the DOS prompt on the PC.  I type
   copy con: com2
followed by a message ending in ctrl-z.  That message appears on the LX
screen.  Yay!

The bad news:
With the LX running Filer and the PC running WinFile, WinFile cannot
make a connection using COM2.  Boo!

Has anyone out there made WinFile work through an IR com port?  What's
the secret?

Thanks
-Rick

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I forgot to add:  the successful PC protocol was "IrDA"
You were right, Tom H.
-Rick

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Ed Padin wrote:
>
> I have to say that I'm on my way to joining the Windows CE crowd. After
> hearing so many 'windows CE sux!!' posts I never considered it but then I
> saw a sale on the Phillips Nino at Onsale. I got an 8MB unit for
> 80+shipping. I traded for a CF card and paid $35 for XT-CE. Now I can do
> almost all of the things I used to do with my 200LX plus some I could never
> do. I don't want to start a flame war but there has been a lot of OS bigotry
> on this list. I think that going to a Windows CE platform is not a bad
> alternative for someone that can't afford a 200LX.
>
> All in all, I wish that I could merge the best features of both machines.
>
> Here are my pluses and minuses with going to a palm nino over the 200lx:
>
> Pluses:
> Active Sync to Outlook is nice
> Avantgo News Service (gets web content for offline reading)
> Voice Recorder !! (very useful)
> Can draw little notes
> Some limited handwriting recognition
> Backlighting
> Cost
> Small palm format
> Sound is better
> has a pointing device
> It wakes up at thr right time when I have an appointment
> (My 200lx appointment book never worked right. Many times if I had an
> appointment that day it wouldn't 'sound off' until the next time I turned it
> on.)
> shareware SSL browser available
>
> Minuses:
> Big pain in the ass to enter info!(no keyboard)
> XT-CE Dos is slower than 1X 200LX
> Built in apps slower than 200lx apps
> Built in apps also not as powerful as 200lx's
> Less software(especially freeware) available.
> Alkalines get sucked up quick!
> (although, interestingly enough, the rechargeable pack lasts a really long
> time...)
>
> Similarites
> Pocket C programming language (pretty powerful yet easy 2 use. If you want a
> 'real' C language then you can get gcc for windows CE)
> SpreadCE spreadsheet (Free excel compatible but no charts or macros)
> freeware Notepad editor
> TASCAL LHA freeware program with  xfiler-like features
> tascal explorer with  xfiler-like features
> Runs DOS (and Foxpro 2.6!!!)
> Calendar, tasks, contacts, etc.
> Can use a regular zoom 14.4 pocket modem
> Alarm clock software
> freeware browsers, mail clients,
> Pocket streets map program (almost as good as LXMAP)
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: David Sargeant Ýmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨
> >Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 1:00 AM
> >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> >Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Availability of New HP200LXs at Thaddeus?
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, David Ness wrote:
> >
> >> I have a friend who bought two Corvettes every year for the
> >past (only
> >> God knows) how long. I can assure you it's not because he needs to
> >> drive that many miles. But he does feel that the always wants to be
> >> able to drive those miles in a Corvette. I don't argue with him about
> >> the efficacy of transportation.
> >
> >Well, let's find out.  How many people on the list are buying extra
> >palmtops to put away in case they're unavailable later?
> >
> >Personally, I think most of us are counting on them being available in
> >plentiful supplies on eBay once prolink and johnnydean (or
> >whoever) cut it
> >out.  Now those guys and their companies may be doing exactly what you
> >describe above.  But I think they're in the minority.  It wasn't until
> >THEY came on the scene that the price of 20LXes elevated to that of
> >"collector's item."
> >
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I AGREE with your points on the win ce machine, I to have a hp200lx,
hp620lx
                                Bob

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Since Napoleon lost so many Frenchmen in the steppes of Russia,
France has moved from being a `large country' into being (at least
relative to Germany, England ...) a `small one'. Thus French has been
on a _realtive_ decline, in terms of numbers of speakers, since about
1815.

I have no idea what you mean by `English has more regular users'. Is
this a comment on the digestive habits of English speakers, or what?

And as to Japan, there _are_ 126m Japanese, and Japan, contrary to
China, has only one real `language' so there's nothing odd about
there being 126m Japanese speakers.

In any event, _my_ gut feeling tells me there's nothing wrong there...

Neil Tungate wrote:
>
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:21:15 -0500, Striegel, Alan wrote:
>
> >According to a leading reference work, the following ten languages are the
> >most widely spoken with their number of speakers in parentheses:
> >
> >Mandarin Chinese (901 million)
> >English (451 million)
> >Hindi-Urdu (377 million)
> >Spanish (360 million)
> >Russian (291 million)
> >Arabic (207 million)
> >Bengali (190 million)
> >Portuguese (178 million)
> >Malay-Indonesian (148 million)
> >Japanese (126 million)
>
> My gut feeling tells me there's something wrong there. I accept Mandarin as
> top of the list, but surely English has more regular users? Where is
> French, and how come there are so many Japanese speakers?
>
> --
> Neil Tungate 

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> - Longden (who's not even from Missouri)

Well, maybe someone will SHOW you any how!!! (G)

On the other hand, I have created an elaborate lxbatch file to use
Buddy's comma launch feature to launch an application for its data file
or if the extension is ambiguous, to launch a menu of options.  For
example xxx.SND could be a sound file or a send (message file).  In that
case my lxbatch shows the first line of data and allows me to launch a
sound player or a text editor or mail application.   For an xxx.TXT or
xxx.DOC file, the menu asks if I want to view or edit it.  Probably I've
duplication PNS' abilities to some extent.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:20:51 +10
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              Alain 
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hi all.
I would like to know if there is some people out there
who are using FIT or TODO.

They are both comming with the souce code (C),
even the *.h file are missing from the fit source.

Alain
Al
Wyn@comcen.com.au
Melbourne / Australia

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:14:45 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff 
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Subject:      games.hplx.net competition! (Was: Re: Fluff: Galactic Battle)
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On 29 Jan 2000 14:16:37 +0100, Lars (nxw988e@tninet.se) wrote:

> No,I meant if you have an official top ten ranking list,so you can
> compete with others.
>
> In the long run it gets boring to compete with yourself only.
>
> If you do not have,I suggest it hereby:-)

Your wish is my command! :-)

There's now a competition page for you to visit at:
http://games.hplx.net/features/competitions.htm.

At the moment, you can compete for the honour of seeing your
name in the high score charts in Galactic Battle (similar to
Space Invaders) and Tetlix (a Tetris variant).

Needless to say, it's all free, harmless fun and the chart
leaders will also see their names proudly listed on the front
page of the site! What more incentive could you possibly
want... apart from cash?!

> Tetlex was a nice little program,I can recommend that even for the so
> called "intellectual" type who is to "mature" of playing wargames:-)

Exactly. The intellectual types can compete at Tetlix, while
the rest of us get on with Galactic Battle! :-)

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:53:43 -0500
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              Mike Schneider 
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Subject:      Backup 200LX for sale
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If anyone is still looking to get a backup palmtop, I've got my backup
for sale.
This 200 LX is in excellent condition. Hinge is tight, latch is solid,
no sign of the dreaded hinge crack. I bought this 200LX as a backup, but

decided I don't really need a backup. I did a restore to test it, and
everything worked perfectly. It has alkaline batteries in it, but it
also works great with rechargeable batteries.
Also comes with

          20 MB flash card for storing all your extra programs
          14.4 modem
          Radio Shack AC adapter
          Connectivity Kit with cable
         The Book "PC in your pocket".
         And oh yes, I include the original manual too!

This is a complete system that I built up over the years. And you can
have the whole thing with one fell swoop, if you are the winning bidder.

I'll ship this anywhere, since you pay for shipping. For example,
shipping to one of the 48 states is $10. Higher elsewhere.

It's listed on ebay, number 248317062.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 14:48:43 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Bob Meyer 
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From:         Bob Meyer 
Subject:      Re: Use of Canon Bubblejet with the HP
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I could be wrong, but I think the BJC1000 is raster only, no ascii when you feed it ascii.

Bob

--
+--------------------+-----------------+
|Bob Meyer MSEE K7PPC|Rom 3:23 Rom 6:23|
|bmeyer@union-tel.com|Joh 3:16 Joh 14:6|
|Elk Mountain Wyoming|2Pe 3:9 Rom 10:13|
+--------------------+-----------------+
|   http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/   |
+--------------------------------------+

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:21:42 -0800
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              smoore 
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Just testing system to see if the HPLX group is downloading  posted
messages or is still of line.

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              smoore 
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I  have (7) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are
in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
$65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only!  I also have (5)

20 Meg name brand Sandisks for sale. I sell (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for
$40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. and I sell (2) 20 Meg
Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping and You can send payment  to my
address at:


Scott Moore
20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
Beaverton, Or 97006

I will email you back  the  same day I receive your payment and let you
know
that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
been really  great.   Thanks alot!    Scott

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:13:22 +0100
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              Tomas Moberg 
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I now have gotten Robot/lx to log in to my Unix account and save the
session to a logfile in Post/lx. Quite nice!!
In order to get it to look right I have to load Ansi.com. Is this the
way to do it or is there a way to get Robot/lx interpret vt100?

Or better, how do i set my Unix account to display a pure text terminal?

      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:10:50 -0600
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" 
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I just downloaded www lx amd post lx, they worked pretty well, so I am
planning to buy them.  However I was wondering what the best configuration
is with regards to modem speed.  I have a 2mb 200lx.
I think a 14.4 modem would be inadequate for web browsing , but can the hp
handles processing data coming in faster than 14.4 or will I need to uprade
it to a 2x processor speed?
Thanks

Regards,

Tim Kelley
GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
713-432-2036

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 07:06:59 -0800
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The main reason I use Software Carousel is to keep my DOS email
client open while I switch to the PIMs and back. It is perfect
for those times when I'm reading email, the phone rings, and I
need PIM information fast.

Conrad

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:14:52 -0500
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From:         Lars Hedstroem 
Subject:      Re: FLUFF:Anxiety-ridden europeans (was: HP200lx Speaker Problems
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David Ness wrote:

> Since Napoleon lost so many Frenchmen in the steppes of Russia,> France =
has moved from being a `large country' into being (at least > relative to =
Germany, England ...) a `small one'. Thus French has been> on a _realtive_=
 decline, in terms of numbers of speakers, since about
> 1815.

I doubt that that is an valid explanation.Germany also lost many germans =
in the steppes of Russia,and as for France Napoleon lived 200 years ago =
and should also have had considerably less civil losses(read killed =
women) than Germany(percentage counted).

And as every woman want a baby and every man wants to...eh..yes,you know =
what I mean

You will have to come with a better explanation.

Lars Hedstroem/Sweden

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:14:53 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List , nxw988e@TNINET.SE
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: Galactic Battle
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Mike Wagstaff wrote:


> ;-)
>
> > If I make a topscore,how do I confirm?
>
> Up and down to change the letter, space to confirm.

No,I meant if you have an official top ten ranking list,so you can =
compete with others.

In the long run it gets boring to compete with yourself only.

If you do not have,I suggest it hereby:-)

Tetlex was a nice little program,I can recommend that even for the so =
called "intellectual" type who is to "mature" of playing wargames:-)

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 03:26:10 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              hobchi 
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Subject:      Re: 2 questions
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Hiya Timmy
> 1 why doent anyone seem to like the Jornada?
   probably kause it sucks........>
> 2. Why is there a lack of software to synch with the lx
> and outlook 98 etc?
Peoples wat doo da LX don't doo windows (too much).
Hope dat ans yor quests.....>
all da best.....
>

=====
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>   (_) \(_)    lookie, lookie

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 06:08:45 -0500
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              Mike Schneider 
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If anyone is still looking to get a backup palmtop, I've got my backup
for sale.
This 200 LX is in excellent condition. Hinge is tight, latch is solid,
no sign of the dreaded hinge crack. I bought this 200LX as a backup, but
decided I don't really need a backup. I did a restore to test it, and
everything worked perfectly. It has alkaline batteries in it, but it
also works great with rechargeable batteries.
Also comes with

          20 MB flash card for storing all your extra programs
          14.4 modem
          Radio Shack AC adapter
          Connectivity Kit with cable
         The Book "PC in your pocket".
         And oh yes, I include the original manual too!

This is a complete system that I built up over the years. And you can
have the whole thing with one fell swoop, if you are the winning bidder.
I'll ship this anywhere, since you pay for shipping. For example,
shipping to one of the 48 states is $10. Higher elsewhere.

It's listed on ebay, number 248317062.

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:59:54 +0000
Reply-To:     Peter Maddern 
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From:         Peter Maddern 
Subject:      Synching HPLX appointments over to MS Outlook
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I've seen programmes on SUPER to convert the MS Outlook appointments
over to LX appointments. Has anyone come up with a converter for HPLX
appointments to Outlook?

If not, anyone know of a "simple" workaround?

Thanks

Dr Peter Maddern
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 02:31:39 -0600
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              Ed Keefe 
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Bob Christopher asked
>1. Has anyone successfully ever backed up the ROM based apps in the LX?

I doubt it: there's no need to. The ROM based apps are cast in
silicon--can't be lost or destroyed by normal use.

>The D: drive shows no space available. So where does one copy new .icn
files in order for them
> to  show up as available in the app setup?

The D: drive is part of the ROM that shows up in Filer. (The rest of the
stuff in ROM does not show up in Filer. The invisible stuff is hard wired to
the blue keys.)

Put an .ICN file in the same directory as the application and give it the
same file name as the filename of the application, e.g. someprog.exe and
someprog.icn.  That's the easy way. App Mgr knows how to deal with that.
(There's a way to put it elsewhere and still have it show up in App Mgr, but
try the easy way first.)

.ed.

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              Alchemist 
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Ball 
To: HPLX Mailing List ; Alchemist

Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: HP Omnigos...


>At 01:01 PM 1/27/00 -0600, you wrote:
>IMO the Omnigo died for a few reasons....
>>

>Yikes.  That's why I love my 200LX--excellent battery-life, which I can
>monitor closely and change without losing my data.  That makes it more like
>a curiousity, rather than a useful pocket PC.

Yep... It had a fairly good mix of applicaitons, and grafitti HWR, usable as
a tablet,
etc. but basically in use it would go like this... The first time you hit a
low battery message
you would wait until you got home to replace them... unknowing that they
were basically
gone and it was using the lithium to keep memory intact, you replace the
batteries and
go on with life... until the next time when the Lithium backup battery is
used up and theres
no more backup.   I really wanted to like the Omnigo, and I still do I
guess, I just can't trust
it to use it daily. :)

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>
>Regards,
>
>David Ball
>mailto:dmb10@swbell.net
>

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:12:50 +0100
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
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From:         "Guenther Helmuth E." 
Subject:      Re: filer.ini
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Fred,

> > - Longden (who's not even from Missouri)
>
> Well, maybe someone will SHOW you any how!!! (G)
>
> On the other hand, I have created an elaborate lxbatch file to use
> Buddy's comma launch feature to launch an application for its data file
> or if the extension is ambiguous, to launch a menu of options.  For
> example xxx.SND could be a sound file or a send (message file).  In =
that
> case my lxbatch shows the first line of data and allows me to launch a
> sound player or a text editor or mail application.   For an xxx.TXT or
> xxx.DOC file, the menu asks if I want to view or edit it.  Probably =
I've
> duplication PNS' abilities to some extent.

The menu which may ask what to do next is really one of the strength of
PNS200. It is *not* OPEN an application only.

Regards

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:59:33 -0800
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              A Meshar 
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Subject:      Re: IR Port
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Rick S wrote:
> Thanks to all (on and off-list) who have been helping me.
>
> I am making progress, but I still have a way to go.
>
> The good news:
> With the LX running DataComm, and the PC running Win98 with the IR
> driver disabled, I go to the DOS prompt on the PC.  I type
>    copy con: com2
> followed by a message ending in ctrl-z.  That message appears on the LX
> screen.  Yay!
>
> The bad news:
> With the LX running Filer and the PC running WinFile, WinFile cannot
> make a connection using COM2.  Boo!
>
> Has anyone out there made WinFile work through an IR com port?  What's
> the secret?
>
> Thanks
> -Rick
>
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:59:36 -0800
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              A Meshar 
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From:         A Meshar 
Subject:      Re: Question about POST/LX and BCC
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> I know that nothing in an e-mail should ever be relied on as
> private, but I do hope that D&A will display a prominent
> warning that Post/LX does not handle BCC correctly. My face is
> still red from my faux-pas.

BCC headers are not removed by Post/LX prior to sending the
data to the Server. This means that the headers may be sent
along to the recipients.

The latest Post/LX verson 2.2f (to be released soon)
displays a warning when it detects that you use a Bcc
header.

Sorry about the embarrassing situation.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
  http://www.dasoft.com

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              A Meshar 
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From:         A Meshar 
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Mike,

> Does anybody know how/if it is possible to include all the
> headers in a message when replying to or forwarding it?
>
> For instance, when reporting spam, it's helpful to include
> all the headers in addition to the actual message. When I
> edit a message using PE under Post/LX, the headers are not
> included (naturally enough) and, as far as I can tell, all
> traces of them are completely removed.

When I report SPAM I press ALT-H when viewing the message
(also Menu, View, All Headers) and then Shift-Save the
message in a file. That saves all the stuff in the file.
Then I just included the saved file as an attachment or
paste it in the message to the SPAM KILLERS :) ...

Example of your message saved with only minimal headers:

----------

Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:07:24 -0500
From: Mike Wagstaff 
Subject:      Post/LX: Including headers in replies
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

Hi everyone,

Does anybody know how/if it is possible to include all the
headers in a message when replying to or forwarding it?

For instance, when reporting spam, it's helpful to include

  Ýsnip...¨

---------- Same Message with full headers saved

ÝI indented the headers just in case...¨


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>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Does anybody know how/if it is possible to include all the
> headers in a message when replying to or forwarding it?
>
> For instance, when reporting spam, it's helpful to include
>
>  Ýsnip...¨
>
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Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              David Ball 
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From:         David Ball 
Subject:      Re: HP Omnigos...
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At 01:01 PM 1/27/00 -0600, you wrote:
IMO the Omnigo died for a few reasons....
>
>Battery Life and unreliability... The Omnigo used a 16mhz CPU, etc... and
>drew considerably more power than the old 100/200lx's... HP's solution for
this
>was to recommend lithium batteries... with which it would give about 15
hours...
>but lithium batteries have a sharp discharge curve so when the Omnigo
popuped up
>with a low battery warning you had better change them NOW or you will loose
>everything.

Yikes.  That's why I love my 200LX--excellent battery-life, which I can
monitor closely and change without losing my data.  That makes it more like
a curiousity, rather than a useful pocket PC.


Regards,

David Ball
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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:45:16 -0600
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              David Ball 
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Subject:      Re: Moving to Windows CE not so bad ( was:  Availability of New
              HP200 LXs at Thaddeus?
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At 03:36 PM 1/28/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I have to say that I'm on my way to joining the Windows CE crowd.

I recently purchased an HP320LX on Ebay and have come to the view that the
unit has one primary use...it's backlight and screen make it quite useful
in certain note-taking situations.  I'm using it for note-taking in several
classes I'm taking and then transferring those notes into my 200LX for
permanent storage.

The built-in apps are not as good as the 200LX.  Pocket Word is nice, though.

My wife likes the built-in Solitaire game and the others I've downloaded
for her, as well.  


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              David Ball 
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At 07:18 AM 1/28/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Several connection choices exist, depending on your needs, resources and
>patience:
>
>1) HP Connectivity Pack (aka Cpack) software
>2) Transfile 200
>3) XFinder
>4) Laplink remote
>5) Interlnk/intersvr (from DOS 6.2)
>6) Zip program (from the SUPER site)
>7) Datacomm (builtin) and a terminal emulator (Terminal in Win 3.1,
>HyperTerminal in Win9x/NT)
>There may be others too.

There is also the freeware program FileMaven version 3.5a.  It's a
fantastic disk management program, as well as having the capability of
linking directly to the 200LX and the PC, once you've transferred a copy of
the program to the 200LX.

You can find it at www.briggsoft.com



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              David Ball 
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At 04:05 PM 1/27/00 +0000, you wrote:
>The handwriting was not bad but quirky nonetheless for this lefty and
>another interesting feature was that the keyboaard could be folded
>backward behind the unit and you only had a "pilot-like" screen and in
>addition, the screen could be rotated 90 degrees so you could hold it in
>a different aspect and press a button and the image would rotate also.

Yes, it was this description which fascinated me upon reading about it.  If
it weren't for that battery-life issue...


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At 09:00 AM 1/28/00 -0500, you wrote:
>NO. X-Finder makes this easy.  It uses a small server program on the
>desktop or laptop.  The palmtop acts as client, the big machine as
>server.  Transfer is controlled in a split-screen resembling Filer,
>with the palmtop files on one side, and the PC files on the other.  You
>simply use the XF copy function just as if you were doing an internal
>copy.

This is exactly how File Maven works, by the way.  It also has the
capabilities of being a superb DOS-based file manager program.  I'd highly
recommend it.


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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:54:07 -0600
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              David Ball 
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At 10:00 PM 1/27/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Well, let's find out.  How many people on the list are buying extra
>palmtops to put away in case they're unavailable later?

Count me in as one.  I had a backup, but I gave that away as a Christmas
present to my brother-in-law, who had just completed his doctorate in
English.  It seems a deserving gift, one he was very appreciative of!

Now that I'm down to one unit, I am looking for a backup unit as well.



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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:37:53 +0600
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On 2000-01-27 Tom Salwasser said:
   >I just bought a REX 3 with docking station for $32 from CDW. They
   >had 60 more in stock with another 200 coming in soon.

What is it about these REXs that make them attractive?  Since the 200LX
already performs admirably in the PIM arena, what do they offer that the
200LX does not?

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A while ago someone mentioned a new spd31 driver that included a keyboard
buffer expander. Has this been released yet? The version I have is from
8/13/98.

I think there was also a later rd2t2.exe driver than what I have,
10/14/98.

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:43:15 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel 
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Subject:      Re: Rex-3 Screen Protection

Hi Ron,

>Someone was saying something about using plastic wrap (or similar) to
keep the
>Rex-3 in his pocket but I cannot locate the post anymore. Could the one
please
>send his post to me? Thanks.

It took me a while to figure out that it might have been my post that you
were inquiring about. I'm also about 6 HPLX-L digests behind in my
reading. Sorry that I haven't responded earlier.

I have a simple pocket expense booklet that I picked up from Office
Depot. It has a cheap clear plastic cover, and I keep my REX-3 organizer
card face in, in the inside back cover of my pocket expense booklet, in
that clear plastic pocket that it forms..

The thickness of the paper in the my booklet protects the screen from
being jabbed with anything sharp, and when I open the booklet to the back
cover, my REX-3 screen is facing me through the clear plastic. I can
easily control the buttons and view the screen through the clear plastic.
So it's highly protected.

I've found it an ideal way to carry my REX-3 card since I always carry my
expense booklet, and that easily fits inside my shirt pocket. :-)

I hope this info is what you were looking for.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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There have been some discussions here about pkzip 2.50, so I
downloaded it and started using it for my backup batch file on my PC.

I wanted a program which I can run from a batch file, so I can have an
"include" and an "exclude" text file containing the names of the
directories/files I either do or don't want to back up. The problem
with the older pkzip (2.04) is that it doesn't support long file
names.

I had been using the WinZip command line utility, which has all the
same command switches as pkzip 2.04, and when I would do a full
backup, I would turn off the archive bit of all the files I backed up
by using the "-a+" switch. Then later I could do an incremental backup
using the "-i-" switch, so that only the files changed since the last
full backup are zipped (the last "-" leaves the attribute on, for a
differential backup).

However, pkzip 2.50 has different command line switches, and it's
missing the equivalent of the "-a+" switch to turn off the archive
attribute after zipping. I sent an e-mail to the pkzip folks asking
about it and they confirmed that it's not there. This seems to me to
be such a necessity in a command-line archiver that I almost couldn't
believe it. I understand that many Windows programs are dumbed-down to
be friendly to the least common denominator Windows user, but in a
command-line program I expected a little more. Why do they think
someone wants a command-line version anyway? Mostly I think it's to do
backups.

I thought others here might be interested in this, and to know that
there's an alternative available from the WinZip folks.

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:54:38 -0800
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              Mark Willis 
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Quinton Jones Jr wrote:
> > Anyone have a PC 110 for sale or trade?
>
> If you're still looking for a IBM PC110 visit try:
> http://www.exec-decisions.com
>
> or call
>
> 1-916-395-2021 (Sacramento, CA)
>
> Used units were $250.00 (over clocked to 40mhz).
> Comes with 8 megs, battery, and ac charger.
>
> NEW in the box, never used were $350.00.
>
> The above information was stored and retrieved with FFDB ver 1.00
> available on The SUPER Site.
>
> HTH
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...
> HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net

I'm not sure that Ken has any now, but do ask him, he'll know.

(He and I both do PC110 work, I do it more for fun, he does it more for
business.)

  Mark

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 04:52:35 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Rick,
>
> The HPLX uses "standard" or "IrDA" protocols.  I would suspect "IrDA"
> would work better.

Actually, without special add-on drivers, the HP uses STANDARD only.

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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> 1. Has anyone successfully ever backed up the ROM based apps in the LX?

ROM apps and any data on the d: drive cannot be lost unless the HP
itself breaks.  They are "etched" into a chip(s) and cannot be altered
in any fashion or erased by any normal actions.

> 2. Aside from config.sys and autoexec.bat are there other system files one
> should
>     backup?

If you are solely using the ones on the d: drive or have not changed the
ones that an initialization creates on c: (or you copied to a:), they do
not need to be backed up.  You can always copy them from d:  If you
want to do any editing, you have to copy them to c: or a: and then edit
them.  then back up any changes you make.

Similarly, those icons cannot be erased.  If you want more, place them
on a c: or a: drive.  And to use them, place them generally in the
directory with the application OR you may cheat and first when
installing a new app, actually install the xxx.icn file as the app with
full path.  Then install the icon, then go back and install the real
xxx.exe application.

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:06:23 -0700
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              Mike Kopplin 
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, David Sargeant wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Jim Saklad wrote:
> > Lessee. You have a 32 (+2) DS machine. Have you tried EMM with it? I
> > find with my 64 (+2) DS machine that EMM seems to be faster even than
> > a disk file on the (fast) T2T 64MB drive.
> I agree; you're better off just using the extra drive space for the TREMM
> paging file and just use some of the expanded memory for SC.  It really is
> significantly faster to use EMS than to use SC's swap file.

I've read this before, so maybe I should try it.

How much memory does tremm use, how much less is max mem in a WA?

Do you calculate size requirements the same way as for a swapfile? How
much additional space, over SC's requirements would be useful for pkzip,
and other programs, without using too much? How many handles do you
specify?

Would this have any effect on SC's delay on the first switch after power
on?

There is also a delay on the first disk access every time I switch WAs.
For example, the first time I list the directory in a WA it lists out the
files, long pause, then the free space is reported. The second time there
is no pause. I can turn the LX off and on, and still no pause for the
listing. But if I just switch WAs and come back, the pause is there again
for the first listing. Would EMM have any effect on this? I have a 32DS
and am using a permanent SC swap file.

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              Mark Willis 
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I just upgraded and sold a 1000cx off, only difference really's the case
color (Black instead of Grey), and the Rom contents;  It was such a
cherry 1000cx that I'm really sad to've sold it, want another in the
same shape some day 

  Mark

Dan Ridenhour wrote:
> Hmm,
>
> I wonder if they will be able to upgrade 1000cx's with backlight/memory
> upgrades
> once the 200lx's go from rare to collectors item. :)     I have a 100lx and
> a 1000cx now
> so Im outta luck on 200lx upgrades otherwise  :(
>
> Dan
> driden@stlnet.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: F. Kaufman 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
> Date: Thursday, January 27, 2000 10:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Availability of New HP200LXs at Thaddeus?
>
> >> <>
> >>
> >> We have a few less than 100 left. We are saving them for 8, 32, 64, 96
> meg.
> >> We may have some 2 to 4 meg upgrades.
> >>
> >> Note we would have sold them all in early December if we hadn't saved
> them
> >> for upgrades.
> >
> >Sad, very sad.  Demand and no product.
> >
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Steve Carder wrote:
> > If you have a T2T 32M palmtop then I recommend you put ALL of your SC
> > resource pool in Expanded memory provided by the TREMM.EXE driver that
> > came with your 32M LX.  Splitting your pool just adds complexity and is
> > probably slower too.
>
> I do almost the opposite.  I have SC use only a disk file and save all of my
> expanded memory for my other programs that use it.  Either way, I agree
> that have all of your SC resource pool in one place reduces complexity.

Your SC swap file can ONLY be used by SC.  If you had SC swap into EMS
you would have faster swaps, NO loss of disk space, and more flexibility
due to SC and your other apps sharing a common resource.  Need EMS for a
program? Shut down an SC session.  Need another SC session? Shut down an
EMS using program.  It's ALL disk space so an SC disk swap file has NO
advantage over using that same space as EMS (provided we're talking
about C: disk space which is only where the EMS can go).

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:40:15 -0600
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              Ted Brown 
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Thanks to all of you for your help with Software Carousel.  After increasing
the resource pool, mine seems to be working great.  After using it for a
while (and several backups !) I'll try using expanded memory and see what
difference it makes.
Thanks again for the help
Ted Brown
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Subject: Re: Software Carousel & Database/File Corruption


>> The resource pool shows Expanded Ram: 288k         Extended Ram :  0K
>> Disk File as Ram: 1248K   for a total of 1536k.   Is this enough?  BTY, I
>> have a 32m palmtop and have SC on a 48meg flashcard..
>
>How much is enough depends on how many work areas you have and how big they
>are.  Add up the size of all your work areas and add 16K extra per work
area.
>For example, I have 6 work areas that are 512K each.  512K x 6 = 3072 plus
16K
>x 6 = 96 for a total of 3168K of resource pool space required.  Be sure to
>include your system RAM (probably around 600K) as part of your available
>resource pool.  So, I would need a disk file of 2568K plus my 600K of
System
>RAM for my example setup described above.
>
>Steve Carder
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Well this thing is surpose to be out by Feb 2000
in three days.

Anyone knows wair to find one yet????????????
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Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:12:08 -0800
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, BOB1 wrote:

> I AGREE with your points on the win ce machine, I to have a hp200lx,
> hp620lx

Please, there was no need to quote the entire post with its quotations and
signature lines included, only to add only this.  PLEASE, people, remember
that lots of the readers of this list -- including several valuable
programmers, business owners, and other people we would NOT want to lose
-- use cell phones and read mail on the palmtop.  Forgetting to trim so
much text costs them money.

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              Alain 
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hi,
is it possible to use a kodak pccard in the 200LX?
It's look like they are cheap,
around $120 for a 48Mg (AU$255)
regards
al
Al
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, hobchi wrote:

> Well this thing is surpose to be out by Feb 2000 in three days.

I e-mailed their English contact and he replied and said they've founded
the company to make it, but are a little behind schedule in actual
production.

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The same thing they offer over all of the Palm this and thats -- it is
the size of a credit card and doesn't weigh much more.  Except when
plugged into my OB800 and being updated, it is a READ-ONLY device -- but
one that slips into my pocket and takes up no space, doesn't cause my
shirt to sag, has space for my business cards and a Miranda Card (public
defender).  I gave up my Palm III when I went to the Rex-3 card.  Has
all of my emergency phone numbers, a few critical case cites, a list of
current clients and my calendar.  All at a glance on a card literally
the size of my MC. And plugging it into my OB800 and updating it takes
just minutes each day.  On the other hand, I am easily recognized by the
small blue pouch ("The Pouch") in which I carry my 2x/8mb 200lx and
three extra 20 meg Sandisk cards. I have spent many hours in court
waiting my turn playing "10K" and dominoes and reading VR books.

David (Rogers)

David Ball wrote:
>
> On 2000-01-27 Tom Salwasser said:
>    >I just bought a REX 3 with docking station for $32 from CDW. They
>    >had 60 more in stock with another 200 coming in soon.
>
> What is it about these REXs that make them attractive?  Since the 200LX
> already performs admirably in the PIM arena, what do they offer that the
> 200LX does not?
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.11.2 - Registered
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I called and the guy said they had some "quite some time ago" but that
they don't have anything in that line now.

David

Mark Willis wrote:
>
> Quinton Jones Jr wrote:
> > > Anyone have a PC 110 for sale or trade?
> >
> > If you're still looking for a IBM PC110 visit try:
> > http://www.exec-decisions.com
> >
> > or call
> >
> > 1-916-395-2021 (Sacramento, CA)
> >
> > Used units were $250.00 (over clocked to 40mhz).
> > Comes with 8 megs, battery, and ac charger.
> >
> > NEW in the box, never used were $350.00.
> >
> > The above information was stored and retrieved with FFDB ver 1.00
> > available on The SUPER Site.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Qman...
> > HPLX.NET Affiliated - http://qman.hplx.net
>
> I'm not sure that Ken has any now, but do ask him, he'll know.
>
> (He and I both do PC110 work, I do it more for fun, he does it more for
> business.)
>
>   Mark
>
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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:29:30 -0500
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              hplx 
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From:         hplx 
Subject:      Re: Kodak PCcard
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AFAIK, the kodak CF cards are really sandisk cards.  This according to my digi
camera manuals (came with the 8MB flavor CF card).  And mine worked in teh lx
with a CF adapter.

On 29 Jan 2000, Alain wrote:

 > hi,
 > is it possible to use a kodak pccard in the 200LX?
 > It's look like they are cheap,
 > around $120 for a 48Mg (AU$255)
 > regards
 > al
 > Al
 > Wyn@comcen.com.au
 > Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:50:44 -0500
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> Lessee. You have a 32 (+2) DS machine. Have you tried EMM with it? I
> find with my 64 (+2) DS machine that EMM seems to be faster even than
> a disk file on the (fast) T2T 64MB drive.

I tried using EMS for my swap space, but all of the programs I have that =
use
EMS didn't share well.  If I started up another program that used EMS, I
wouldn't have enough left for SC to work well.  So, I leave the EMS for =
the
other programs and make SC use a disk file only.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:50:46 -0500
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> due to SC and your other apps sharing a common resource.  Need EMS for =
a
> program? Shut down an SC session.  Need another SC session? Shut down =
an
> EMS using program.

So, using you system I would need to remember that yesterday afternoon I
started an EMS using program in SC session 5 and didn't shut it down =
before I
could safely swap to SC session 6 today.  I don't want to be forced to =
close
down some programs to free up EMS to run others.  The whole reason I =
purchased
SC was to avoid being forced to close one program before I could run =
another.

I tried using only EMS for SC swap space and had trouble with SC when =
other
programs used up a chunk of the EMS.  With a disk file for SC swap space =
I
don't have to worry about the hassel of (as you put it) "Need EMS for a
program? Shut down an SC session.  Need another SC session? Shut down an =
EMS
using program."

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:25:39 -0800
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, David Ball wrote:

> The built-in apps are not as good as the 200LX.  Pocket Word is nice,
> though.

How on earth can you use Pocket Word on the 320LX?  I got so fed up with
waiting for the unit to catch up with my typing that I found it totally
unusable.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:49:19 -0800
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, Steve Carder wrote:

> I tried using EMS for my swap space, but all of the programs I have
> that use EMS didn't share well.  If I started up another program that
> used EMS, I wouldn't have enough left for SC to work well.  So, I
> leave the EMS for the other programs and make SC use a disk file only.

What other programs do you run?  I've never had any problems like that...

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              KAZU 
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              Mike Kopplin 
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Hi Mike.
I'm Libretto50&70 user.
I searched the web about your question.
And I found Japanese user's site.
But all contents in japanese.
I found a FAQ about the video driver of Lib.20.
They recommend Cirrus Logic's 7548 1.21t driver.
Bye.
--------------------------------------------------
 KAZU(K.Tanabe)
 Kyoto Japan
 QWQ11433@nifty.ne.jp
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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:31:03 -0500
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From:         Theodore Heise 
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Conrad Cox writes:
> The main reason I use Software Carousel is to keep my DOS email
> client open while I switch to the PIMs and back. It is perfect
> for those times when I'm reading email, the phone rings, and I
> need PIM information fast.

This is one of the reasons I use LXTCP and the palmtop newsreader.
PNR runs under the System Manager and allows me to switch easily
between the PIMs and e-mail.

Ted

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:49:07 -0700
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I noticed on the Palmtop Paper site that Hal was selling Nickel Metal Hydride
rechargeable batteries with a rating of 1350mAh. Radio Shack sells a Ni-MH
battery rated at 1500mAh 1.2v. Perhaps a stupid question but... are the
Radio Shack batteries ok to use in the 200LX?

  Bob

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:11:13 -0600
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> I noticed on the Palmtop Paper site that Hal was selling Nickel Metal Hydride
> rechargeable batteries with a rating of 1350mAh. Radio Shack sells a Ni-MH
> battery rated at 1500mAh 1.2v. Perhaps a stupid question but... are the
> Radio Shack batteries ok to use in the 200LX?

Actually if Thaddeus has replenished their stock in the last several
months then they are really 1500mah. I am of course biased since I sell
the same batteries, but I believe they are much better than the Radio
Shack batteries as they hold their charge for a much longer time than
any other Nimh battery I have seen on the market.

Cheers,
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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:45:52 -0800
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Mark
where are yu located?


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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 00:15:24 -0700
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> > paging file and just use some of the expanded memory for SC.  It really is
> > significantly faster to use EMS than to use SC's swap file.
>

I went ahead and tried tremm so I can answer some of my own questions now.

> Would this have any effect on SC's delay on the first switch after power
> on?

No, the delay is still there.

> There is also a delay on the first disk access every time I switch WAs.
> For example, the first time I list the directory in a WA it lists out the
> files, long pause, then the free space is reported. The second time there
> is no pause. I can turn the LX off and on, and still no pause for the
> listing. But if I just switch WAs and come back, the pause is there again
> for the first listing. Would EMM have any effect on this? I have a 32DS
> and am using a permanent SC swap file.

This delay no longer happens. This makes switching to EMS worth it for me.
I didn't notice any difference in how long it takes to swap work areas.

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:43:23 -0800
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              Mark Willis 
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Curtis Cameron wrote:
> 
> However, pkzip 2.50 has different command line switches, and it's
> missing the equivalent of the "-a+" switch to turn off the archive
> attribute after zipping. I sent an e-mail to the pkzip folks asking
> 

An alternate would be to use Attrib -a- *.* after zipping.  That'd do
the job.

  Mark

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Date:         Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:57:43 -0800
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              Mark Willis 
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David B. Rogers wrote:
> I called and the guy said they had some "quite some time ago" but that
> they don't have anything in that line now.
>
> David

I was afraid of that.  the-gadgeteer.com has a PC110 mailing list
pointer that I've mentioned, you might ask there.  They sell on that
list monthly or so anyways, sorta the same as here.

hobchi wrote:
>
> Mark
> where are yu located?

I'm sitting in front of my \\Speedster machine, right now.  

OK, I'll be nice, I'm in Enumclaw, Washington State - Just Northwest of
Mount Rainier, about 30 miles SE of Seattle, about 15-20 miles E of
Tacoma.  (Guesses, not exact.)

  Mark

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 03:09:58 -0500
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From:         Martin Bergvill 
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> David Sargeant writes:
>
> > Well, let's find out.  How many people on the list are buying extra
> > palmtops to put away in case they're unavailable later?

I have paid for a used Hp200LX 1mb which will go onto the shelf until I
need it. You guys scared me so I had to get a backupunit. I have not
recevied it yet.. It should be in okey condition.

When I need this backupunit I will move the screen and extra ram/ds
from my current Hp to the backupunit..but this will not happen for a
long time I hope..

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 03:10:06 -0500
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From:         Martin Bergvill 
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Longden wrote:

> If you have the OPEN.EXE program from SUPER, your "Path:" field could be setup
> something like this:
>
> Path: a:\utl\open.exe  c:\refs\book.txt
>
> and Memo will kick up and open book.txt.
>
> - Longden

Ahh so this can be done with Open?

I use keystuff to open my hv.hot list in Memo:

Ks.com \$\9e:\\w\\hv.hot/

The hv.hot file is in the folder e:\w

This works.. But keystuff is limited in how many characters it can
stuff, but you can increase this by a tsr.

I will try open.exe now to see if it works.. I have now tried it and I
would go with Open.exe. Is is a little bit faster and a lot easyier to
set up than by using keystuff.

Thanks for the tip..

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>
> "Batson, Dale N"  on 01/28/2000 11:18:54 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond
>       to "Batson, Dale N" 
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/AGH/Candle)
> Subject:  Text, Icons & Memo
>
> Hi All,
>
> Does anyone know how to set up an icon, which is associated with a text
> document, so that it will launch and load into the ROM-based 'Memo'
> application? That is, what do you put in the 'Path:' field inside the 'Edit
> Application' screen, to launch Memo rather than a DOS-based editor?

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 03:11:04 -0500
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From:         Martin Bergvill 
Subject:      Re: Post/LX: Including headers in replies
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Sombody wrote:

> The header information is there but its a separate file called
> Post.Hed.
>
> To see it while editing a message just hit next, to include it
> in your forward message just do a cut & paste.

If you use PE you could just choose Insert file from the File menu
where you want to insert it in the text.

I have not done this myself. When I wanted to include the headers I
have exported to a file and then inserted that file. But if all the
headerinfo is in that file you could just insert it..I will do that
from now on..

Thanks for the tip..

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:24:43 CET
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              Helge Holm 
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From:         Helge Holm 
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>From: Curtis Cameron 
>To: HPLX Mailing List , Helge Holm
>
>Subject: Re: HP200LX Blank stripes on screen, and failing "on" switch
>Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:12:06 -0600
>
>Helge Holm wrote:
> >Problem 1
> >My 200LX is blanking out 3-4 vertical stripes on the left side, and 2
> >stripes on the right side of the screen. If I press the border (on the
> >"HP"-logo to be exact) above the blank stripes, the screen is OK for a
> >while, but the stripes reappear after a minute or so. I suspect the
>stripes
> >to be caused by bad contacts somewhere inside the screen.
>
>So is there a crack near the right hinge, on top when the lid is
>closed? The missing vertical line symptom is typical of the hinge
>crack causing display solder joints to fatigue and crack, if I
>understand it right. The Thaddeus people fixed mine, I assume by
>re-heating the solder to seal the cracks (and by replacing the cracked
>top cover).
>
>--
>Curtis Cameron
>WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724
No crack near the right hinge. It seems from the tips I have received that
need to send it in for repair. To avoid the high cost (and long time)of
sending the machine across the Atlantic I have been advised to try
http://www.rundel-d.com/palmtop/.It looks looks promising, I think I will go
for it.

Thanks to everyone for tips.

Helge
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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:02:08 +0100
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From:         Stephan Goeldi 
Subject:      Starting a Macro from SysMan
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Is there a way to start an LX-macro from the AppManager?
Any application like e.g. "StartMac file.mac"?

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 10:09:55 +0100
Reply-To:     Stephan Goeldi 
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From:         Stephan Goeldi 
Subject:      Re: filer.ini
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Does this mean, that I can use ks200.com to start 1-2-3 and load
a wk1-file directly? Open doesn't work for german LX. What I don't
understand is @$@9%/
Is this the drive? How will I open c:\_dat\file.wk1 this way?


>You need to fool Filer.ini and use Keystuff which may be on the
>supersite.
>
>The issue with my following lines is that keystuff was either hp100
>specific or I patched keystuff to work with the hp200 in a certain way
>so you may have to tweak some of the lines:
>
>PDB=a:\bin\ks200.com @$@9%/
>    ;phone F9 flnm enter
>;GDB=a:\bin\ks200.com @c@$@9%/
>    ;ctrl-phone F9 flnm enter
>GDB=a:\bin\dbv.exe %
>WDB=a:\bin\ks200.com @c@(
>    ;ctrl-calc F9 flnm enter
>NDB=a:\bin\ks200.com @c@¬@9%/
>    ;ctrl-memo F9 flnm enter
>
>STA=a:\bin\ks200com @(@cL@MFO%/

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              Tom Salwasser 
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Hello,

I ordered 2 AC adapters at a great price from Paul Anderson,
Systems-Consulting. They arrived yesterday, brand new as advertised. Than=
ks
Paul!

Tom Salwasser


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Tim Kelley wrote:

> However I was wondering what the best configuration
> is with regards to modem speed.  I have a 2mb 200lx.
> I think a 14.4 modem would be inadequate for web browsing , but can the =
hp > handles processing data coming in faster than 14.4 or will I need to =
uprade > it to a 2x processor speed?
> Thanks

It is said that you need to upgrade to doublespeed to achieve
data faster than 14400bps,then you can use the 19200bps setting.Otherwise =
you will have to go with 9600bps.

If you really achieve 19200bps with doublespeed I am not sure about,but =
you should atleast reach 14400bps.


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David Ball wrote:

> On 2000-01-27 Tom Salwasser said:
>    >I just bought a REX 3 with docking station for $32 from CDW. They
>    >had 60 more in stock with another 200 coming in soon.
>
> What is it about these REXs that make them attractive?  Since the 200LX
> already performs admirably in the PIM arena, what do they offer that the
> 200LX does not?

Well I have not bought a Rex 3 yet. But the thing with the Rex 3 that
interested me was that with it I could carry with me all my
phonenumbers appointments/todos and notebooks and maybe some
databases when the Hplx was left at home.

My view on the Rex has changed though. I have now a Nokia 7110
cellphone where I can store 1000 names w/5 numbers and 3 textfields per
name. It also has a calender where I can insert importent appointments
when I do not want to carry the Hplx.

But I still would like a Rex 3. Mainly because I could carry with me my
todolist. notebooks and maybe some databases. This is now the main
thing that I would like to do with a Rex/Hplx combo.

The Rex is so small that it is ideal to carry with you along with your
creditcards and phone when the Hplx is at home..

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 07:09:14 -0500
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Conrad wrote:

> The main reason I use Software Carousel is to keep my DOS email
> client open while I switch to the PIMs and back. It is perfect
> for those times when I'm reading email, the phone rings, and I
> need PIM information fast.

This is what I wanted to do too. I have done that without using Sofware
Carousel though. But it has some limits. I open Post/lx from the
Applicationmanager with |273 memory availible.

This is enough for Post/lx for reading messages. I can switch to one
pim when I close Filer. (If I want to reply to a message I start Pe with
Maxdos from within Post/lx.)

I am not sure if I would like Software Carousel. It seems as a
dangerous setup with a lot of open files in several workareas. I try a
lot of different setups all the time which often results booting.

Therefor Software Carousel seems confusing to me. I see the benefits of
having "windows" with max memory availibel, but how is this when it
comes to backups? Do you have to close down all the windows or what? It
seems confusing to me. Maybe I do not have the ability to multi task
with my brain :-))

Could somebody enlighten me on Software Carousel's benefits and
downsides?

TIA

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 07:13:57 -0500
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To Avi.

In the adresslist of WWW/LX 1.1 there was a possibility to add a comment =
to every emailadress which automatically showed up when highlighting.

I suggest that you reintroduce this practical feature-if possible-in a =
later version of Plus.

I am aware of that there are a similar possibility in Plus,you can type a =
comment on the same line which doesn't show up if you  enclose the =
emailadress in brackets,but the way it worked in WWW/LX 1.1 was smoother =
and more aesthetic and more "cool".


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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 06:43:12 -0600
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              Ed Keefe 
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martin@MOBILPOST.COM requested the pros and cons of Software
Carousel

I assume you've learned many of the benefits of SC by going
to www.palmtoppaper.com and visiting the SC and SSC pages.

The only downside I've noticed is that a system crash that
forces a reboot will reload of all the SC session. You'll
also lose any information in open files. The way to avoid
this is to remind yourself to save all work in progress
before switching tasks.  You may lose your place in an open
document but you won't lose the document that way. In this
regard, SC is somewhat like Windows. A crash can lose all
information in open Windows documents.
.ed.ÝPTP¨

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              Ed Keefe 
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Stephan Goeldi  asked: >>Is
there a way to start an LX-macro from the AppManager? Any
application like e.g. "StartMac file.mac"? <<

Answer: No.

However, you could use ADDKEYS to convert a macro to an
executable file and put that in AppMgr.
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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:16:31 -0500
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              Daniel Hertrich 
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Hi Al,

Alain wrote:
> is it possible to use a kodak pccard in the 200LX?
> It's look like they are cheap,
> around $120 for a 48Mg (AU$255)

Are you sure that it's really made by Kodak? Search for a (maybe very
small) label saying "made by xxx" or something like this. Maybe it's a
Sandisk card, then you are sure that it works.
I have a card that was included with my digital camera. It is a CASIO
CF-8 Compact Flash card 8MB. On the back there's a little label saying
(c) 1998 HITATCHI. :-)
The card works very well in the LX.

If it's a real Kodak card, I really don't know if it will work. Maybe
justt try it before you but it.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:16:33 -0500
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              Daniel Hertrich 
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...who started the whole discussion about the English language and its
difficulties and the difficulties of sloppy email writing etc....

sorry about that ;-)

Although it was really funny sometimes!! And I learned much from this
entire discussion. Thanks to everyone who teached me a little bit of
the English grammar.

I stored the text written by Mark Twain in my email archive folder, so
I can read it everytime I need a big laugh. Very good! :-)))

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:16:37 -0500
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              Daniel Hertrich 
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Hi Longden,

Longden Loo wrote:
> - Is English taught in Europe as a required academic course?
> For most Americans, it's optional.  And many of us struggle (and successfully
> maim) the one language we have.

I speak for Germany.
Yes. It's teached in almost every school (by now. 10 years ago and
before, when the wall was there, and the GDR (DDR) was occupied by the
Sowjets, this part of Germany wasn't teached English. There the
mandatory foreign language was Russian).

E.g. I'm studying Electrical Engeneering, and for me it's mandatory to
make an English course. And this is the same for a lot of other fields,

> - Is there a practical, daily reason for the average European to know English?
> While there are many opportunities to use a 2nd language in the US, they are
> usually non-essential.  The average person could spend their entire life in the

Yes. The HPLX-L! :-)
Seriously, if you don't know English, you don't understand much of the
computers, especially if you work with Unix/Linux and with the hardware
itself. If you only use Windows-based apps and don't care about the
hardware at all, you maybe don't need to know Emglish.

And in the Electrical Engeneering business (as in most businesses) you
have to be able to speak English, because you'll have to work together
with other people all ovr the world.
It's also good to know an exotic language, so you have a better chance
to get an exotic job ;-).

> - Are other languages taught with similar emphasis?

No. There are languages which are important, too. But not as important
as English. E.g. French and Spanish. They are important for economy
business for example.

Since a lot of business is made with the 'far east' (=Japan, china,
corea, Taiwan...), it's also a big advantage for job searching people
to know one of those languages. But they are extremely difficult to
learn for us European people.

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 08:32:48 -0500
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              Tom Salwasser 
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Hello,

I am looking for someone skilled in electronics and programming. I need a=

thermometer that can be connected to the serial port of an hp200lx and
polled for a temperature via lxbatch or a custom written program. I playe=
d
around with this for a while but my knowledge of electronics is minimal.

I know that a thermistor (resistance changes with temperature) is the bas=
is
of what I need.

I'd be happy to pay a reasonable amount for a hardware/software solution
that is ready to use.

The temperature range is -40 F to 110 F (or better). It will be used in a=
n
area protected from the weather. I would like the length of the serial
cable to be as long as possible. For the future, I would like to connect
multiple thermometers up to a single lx and poll them by an address of so=
me
sort.

I would like to be able to display the temperature on the screen, as well=

as log it to a file with a date and time stamp.

I would like the source code for any program to be included in the projec=
t.

If anyone is interested in this fun project, please let me know, on or of=
f
list.

Tom Salwasser
TomSalwasser@compuserve.com

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:42:09 -0500
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              Jim Westley 
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I can't speak on the programming side, but I can make a couple of points about
temperature sensing. You are right about a thermister, but you may also want to
consider an RTD, which might be a little less accurate (+/- 1C) than a
thermister, but the resistances are standardized - you can typically buy a 100
ohm RTD for $20 -$30.

Another avenue is a thermocouple - less expensive, less accurate typically, but
readily available, and generates a millivoltage itself instead of requiring a
current.

For conversion to something the 200LX can handle, there are off-the-shelf
solutions. Zworld.com has little logic boards with adapters available for
various analog inputs. These also can have RS232 comms built into the boards.

Also, companies like Omega make little converters to change an analog signal
from, say, an RTD or thermocouple range to a more standard 4-20mA or 0-5 volt
signal.

The third option I can think of is to buy a standard industrial temperature
controller that has communications built in. This would give you two benefits
as I can see. First the 200LX processor would not have to be tied up working on
the temperature sensing - it would simply have to poll the controller
periodically and the even the cheapest mass produced controller would have very
accurate analog to digital conversion. Secondly, there are DOS programs
available that can communicate with these controllers through standard
protocols (such as modbus).

For well under $300 you could probably go this route

I don't know enough about electronics to be able to tell you how to build
something like this, but I have had some experience with the temperature
sensing side. I have used my 200 LX to actually communicate with temperature
controllers, change temperatures, record data to files, etc., so I do know it
can be done.

Jim W.



> >>I need a thermometer that can be connected to the serial port of an hp200lx
> and polled for a temperature via lxbatch or a custom written program. I
> played around with this for a while but my knowledge of electronics is
> minimal.
>
> I know that a thermistor (resistance changes with temperature) is the basis
> of what I need.<<

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:49:01 -0500
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> > David Sargeant writes:
> >
> > > Well, let's find out.  How many people on the list are buying extra
> > > palmtops to put away in case they're unavailable later?

I advertised in a swedish newsgroup for a HP200LX back up unit.

One guy with an LX 2Mb standard unit english version-no accesories-mailed =
me as late as last week.I asked him for the numbers and they were:FCC Id: =
B94F1060 and SG44203498.

Means it was manufactured in 1994.

He wanted me to make a bid,I bid 75 dollars  and he agreed emmediately.I =
regret afterwards,I should have bid him only fifty dollars.

He promised me to ship it next week.

But Alchemija in Lithuania will perhaps buy it,he has asked me before to =
help him find a cheap HP200 and if he can scramble
together 75 box I'll let it go to him.

It wouldn't surprise me if we will see a turnaround to eastern Europe as =
for the members on this list in the future as prices on the LX go down.


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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:49:08 -0500
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Hello you old 286-users!

I remember in the early nineties there was a DOS-program you could check =
the condition of a 286 DOS machine,among other things it checked was the =
condition of the harddisk etc

It was meant to use if you were going to buy a secondhand computer.

Isn't there any program like that to check a secondhand HP200?

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:25:06 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein 
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<>

We've starting selling about 100 or so a month (with upgrades) since the
announcement of discontinuance in October.

<>

I cannot promise anything like that since it is so distant in the future.
Actually, I see us providing upgrades at least for several years and
probably more. We will probably give warning since it will be in our
interest to do as many as possible before discontinuing them.

As I say, our plans our to continuing supporting the 200LX for as long as we
are profitable, and I believe that will be at least several years. What will
help is if we can find sources of used palmtops to refurbish, upgrade and
resell. I believe that will happen.

Hal at Thaddeus

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<>

True.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:34:24 -0600
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From: David Ness

<>

Thanks, David.  I agree.  Actually, there are many factors contributing
to the price. Labor, providing proper warranty, and low volume are way up on
the list.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 18:34:29 +0000
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> On 2000-01-27 Tom Salwasser said:
>    >I just bought a REX 3 with docking station for $32 from CDW. They
>    >had 60 more in stock with another 200 coming in soon.
>
> What is it about these REXs that make them attractive?  Since the 200LX
> already performs admirably in the PIM arena, what do they offer that the
> 200LX does not?

The Rex is expendable!!!!  Seriously, when I thought about a Rex a while
back, it was to take in situations where I would not want to jeopardize
the HP but where I wanted my phone numbers with me and maybe an address
for a post card.  Say a camping road trip where I don't want to leave
the hp in a car for a day or two and also don't want it while I'm wading
rivers!!!!  Or on my day bike trips when I also don't want the weight of
the hp or jostling it.

Actually, I just ought to opt for a new cell phone which stores
information in readable form - name and phone number.

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> Does this mean, that I can use ks200.com to start 1-2-3 and load
> a wk1-file directly? Open doesn't work for german LX. What I don't
> understand is @$@9%/
> Is this the drive? How will I open c:\_dat\file.wk1 this way?

That is the Keystuff (ks.com depending on how you name or rename it)
commands.

@$ is the PhoneKey.

@9 is the f9 function key (which is the open file command).

% is the usual Filer.ini key to substitute the file highlighted in
Filer.  The / is a carriage return in KS.

So this would open a pdb file highlighted in Filer using Filer.ini and
keystuff to stuff the needed internal application keys.

WK1=a:\bin\ks200.com @&@mfr@E@E%/

Let's see if I can recall what this is doing in 123 (and with English
commands, so you might have to change to the German file retrieve
equivalent commands)

@& is the 123 key

@m is the MENU key (which is also the Lotus menu key)

So after the menu has appeared, KS is sending

FR (for file retrieve, which is where you substitute the German
sequence)

@E is Escape, twice, I guess which maybe erases the default 123
directory structure???) and then feeds the Filer Highlight by

%  (the file highlighted in Filer)

/  Press Enter key


Now, again, I don't know the status of the keystuff on Super.  At one
time, there was a problem with Buddy or something that caused the
keystuff lead in key to now work if you need the "\" key, I think.  It
is too long ago.  But someone posted a patch to make a series of changes
to Keystuff to accommodate the issue.  But I don't recall if keystuff
was altered officially or not.  But I'm babbling here.  Give it a shot
and let us know.  There are other keystuff users.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:35:04 -0800
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I just received the new J&R Music World (1-800-221-8180) catalog (pg
C98) and they list 4meg HP200LX's for $549.00.  They would, of course,
be new.  Might be worth checking out.

David, WA7ZYQ

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:08:20 -0600
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Al
I purchased the SanDisk CompactFlash memory card however it came
with a PC Card Adapter (it changes the physical dimensions of the card
to make it fit 200LX, or whatever PC). Memory card fits into the PC Card
Adapter.
Make sure the Kodak has that adapter - then I think you should be set.
Good Luck
Doug
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 7:16 AM
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> Hi Al,
>
> Alain wrote:
> > is it possible to use a kodak pccard in the 200LX?
> > It's look like they are cheap,
> > around $120 for a 48Mg (AU$255)
>
> Are you sure that it's really made by Kodak? Search for a (maybe very
> small) label saying "made by xxx" or something like this. Maybe it's a
> Sandisk card, then you are sure that it works.
> I have a card that was included with my digital camera. It is a CASIO
> CF-8 Compact Flash card 8MB. On the back there's a little label saying
> (c) 1998 HITATCHI. :-)
> The card works very well in the LX.
>
> If it's a real Kodak card, I really don't know if it will work. Maybe
> justt try it before you but it.
>
> GTX
> daniel
>
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              Daniel Hertrich 
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Hi Martin,

Martin Bergvill wrote:
> I am not sure if I would like Software Carousel. It seems as a
> dangerous setup with a lot of open files in several workareas. I try a
> lot of different setups all the time which often results booting.

Yes, that's really a problem. If you hang one work area and you have to
_warm boot_, it's no probelm. SC allows you to just boot one work area.
If you press Ctrl-Alt-Del, SC pops up with a message "Are you sure you
want to boot" to prevent you from booting the whole machine
accidentally. If you want to boot one area, you have to press the
hotkey for SC's "Menu" and then you can kill the program in one work
area.

But if your LX hangs and needs a _cold reboot_, you can't work around
it.

> Therefor Software Carousel seems confusing to me. I see the benefits of
> having "windows" with max memory availibel, but how is this when it
> comes to backups? Do you have to close down all the windows or what? It
> seems confusing to me. Maybe I do not have the ability to multi task
> with my brain :-))

I'll tell you how I handle this:

I have a menu in my autoexec.bat that allows to choose between:

1. chkdsk all drives
2. DOS prompt, without loading SC
3. load SC
4. backup C: to A:

I boot my whole system every few days, so the menu will pop up and I
make (1), then (4). then I'm ready to reload SC by pressing (3).
Before I boot, I switch to every work area and close the application
inside it (except it is only a 'read only' work area, such as Stefan
Peichl's LXTEL (only shows a database of cheap telephone providers), or
Volkov Commander (only shows file lists and file contents, when it's
not busy)).

I live with this setup now for almost one year, and it is very
satisfying for me! :-)
(You could also do a backup with SC loaded, but this way you probably
wouldn't be sure that you backup the latest versions of your files).

GTX
daniel

> Could somebody enlighten me on Software Carousel's benefits and
> downsides?

Although it is possible to switch to another work area whenever you
want, it is good to save your document before switching, especially if
you plan to stay a long time in another work area or if you plan to try
new programs or setups in another work area!
(I didn't lose very much files by now, although I don't save everytime
I switch, but I love the risk! :-) )

GTX
daniel

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:14:05 +0100
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From:         Ulrich Boche 
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Mike Wagstaff  wrote:
> ...
>
> As a rule of thumb, I reckon that the further south in
> Europe you go, the less and less English people speak. For
> example:
>
> Scandinavian countries: English level - generally excellent.
> Holland: generally excellent.
> Germany: generally very good.
> France: generally OK.
> Spain/Italy/Greece: generally pretty poor.
>
> (Use stereotypes? Me? Never! )
>

For the most, I agree with your analysis. However, my own
experience regarding France is that you shouldn't expect
people to understand or speak English, not even at the
reception desks of hotels. You need some basic knowledge
of French to get along in that country. For anything more
than that, you need to speak French fluently (if your
ability to speak French is limited in any way, French people
will usually see no incentive in any conversation with you).

In Spain, I found more people to be able to speak English,
at least in Hotels, restaurants, stores etc.

This, of course, is subject to my own limited experience.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:50:31 +0100
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Steve Novosad  wrote:
>
> Paraphrasing "The Macmillan Handbook of English" fourth edition, 1962=
.
>
> Use "I" in the nominative case.  When it is the subject of the sentan=
ce.
> Use "my, mine" in the posessive case.  Indicating posession (+some).
> Use "me" in the objective case.  When it is the object of the sentanc=
e.
>
> Therefore:
>
> It was me.  That was me.  I wrote fluff.
>
>
This is what "Webster's New World Dictionary" has to say:

me

 pron.

  objective case of I(superscript: 2): also used as a predicate complem=
ent with
  a linking verb, although the usage is objected to by some  (Ex.: that=
?s me)

One of the "some" seems to be Daniel's English teacher :-)

Mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen/Regards,
Ulrich Boche
IT Security Technical Consultant
IBM S/390 Technical Support (OS/390 + e-Business Security)
Am Keltenwald 1, 71139 Ehningen, Germany
Phone: +49-7034/15-2716,  Mobile-GSM: +49-171/5533450
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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:22:00 +0100
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Steve Novosad  wrote:
>
> > Daniel Hertrich 
> > That was I.
> > (BTW: What is right here? My English teacher told me to say 'that was
> > I', but everytime I read something like that in this list, you all say
> > 'that was me'. What's up here???)
>
> Paraphrasing "The Macmillan Handbook of English" fourth edition, 1962.
>
> Use "I" in the nominative case.  When it is the subject of the sentance.
> Use "my, mine" in the posessive case.  Indicating posession (+some).
> Use "me" in the objective case.  When it is the object of the sentance.
>
> Therefore:
>
> It was me.  That was me.  I wrote fluff.
>
> American, US variety, currently in north west Florida.
>
> Steve
>

I'm not so sure that "The Macmillan Handbook of English" disproves Daniel's
English teacher; if you say: "That was xxxx", then it seems to me that
xxxx is the subject of the sentence, not the object. An object follows
a transitive verb which "to be" isn't.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:28:41 -0800
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Tom,
No need to reinvent the wheel, Check out
http://www2.vsi.net/waetjen/onset/Products/Product_Pages/HOBO_H08/2558_H08_Loggers.html
http://www2.vsi.net/waetjen/onset/Support/HS_Support/2277_HP.html

http://www2.vsi.net/waetjen/onset/welcome.html and



Tom Salwasser wrote:
>
> I need a
> thermometer that can be connected to the serial port of an hp200lx and
> polled for a temperature via lxbatch or a custom written program.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:08:24 -0700
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              Jan Allbright 
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Subject:      looking for modem connector
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HP part number is 5181-6642
I need three (3)

HELP!

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:26:58 -0500
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              Russel Brooks 
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Steve Carder wrote:
> > due to SC and your other apps sharing a common resource.  Need EMS for a
> > program? Shut down an SC session.  Need another SC session? Shut down an
> > EMS using program.
>
> So, using you system I would need to remember that yesterday afternoon I
> started an EMS using program in SC session 5 and didn't shut it down
> before I
> could safely swap to SC session 6 today.  I don't want to be forced to
> close
> down some programs to free up EMS to run others.  The whole reason I
> purchased
> SC was to avoid being forced to close one program before I could run
> another.

I wasn't clear.  If you provide enough EMS space then no, you don't need
to shut anything down in order to start something else.  I was trying to
show that occasionally you might want to run something that requires
more EMS resources than you have available.  In this case you could make
it available by stopping the EMS use of something that is already
running.  If SC was swapping to an SC swap file then you would NOT have
this flexibility as it would be using a unshareable resource.

> I tried using only EMS for SC swap space and had trouble with SC when other
> programs used up a chunk of the EMS.  With a disk file for SC swap space I
> don't have to worry about the hassel of (as you put it) "Need EMS for a
> program? Shut down an SC session.  Need another SC session? Shut down an
> EMS using program."

You can't just stop using the SC swap file and switch to EMS.  You need
to increase the amount of EMS by the amount of SC swap file you were
previously using (and remember to delete the old SC swap file to recover
the disk space it used).

cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:07:00 -0600
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" 
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Is it possible to browse the web at 19.2?  Is 19.2 adequate?
Thanks
Regards,

Tim Kelley
GIS - Knowledge Processes and Tools
713-432-2036

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:14:00 +0100
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              paulo.custodio@SNAFU.DE
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> Is there a way to start an LX-macro from the AppManager?
> Any application like e.g. "StartMac file.mac"?

There is a TSR called pushkeys in the ROM drive, at d:\\bin\\pushkeys.com.
You need to install it in the  AUTOEXEC.BAT before running the system manager, like this:

d:\\bin\\pushkeys /i

Then you can write, at the DOS prompt, or in the PATH field of an Application Manager icon:

pushkeys file.mac

and all the macros in the file will be executed in sequence.
There is one extension to the keyboard macros: if a macro contains the sequence ##, then
the macro replay will be paused for that number of timer ticks - usefull to let the application
recover from your keys. (#50# waits aproximately 1 second)

Aloso have a look at txt2mac and mac2txt, from SUPER: they let you write a text file with your macro text,
convert to a macro file, and call pushkeys.

Paulo

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There is one problem with the KeyStuff: it uses the '\' as the special
character to introduce special keys, and of course there are a lot of
'\' in the pathname supplied by Filer when you write '%'. My solution
for this was changing the source code to use '!' instead, and saving the
result as 'ks!.com'.

Paulo

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:37:05 -0500
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              Mike Wagstaff 
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On 30 Jan 2000 13:52:02 -0800, Ulrich Boche  wrote:

> > As a rule of thumb, I reckon that the further south in
> > Europe you go, the less and less English people speak. For
> > example:
>
> For the most, I agree with your analysis. However, my own
> experience regarding France is that you shouldn't expect
> people to understand or speak English, not even at the
> reception desks of hotels. You need some basic knowledge
> of French to get along in that country. For anything more
> than that, you need to speak French fluently (if your
> ability to speak French is limited in any way, French people
> will usually see no incentive in any conversation with you).

I won't disagree. I actually spent an academic year in
France as part of my degree (anyone know Tours?), which was
a great experience. It is very true to say that you
shouldn't expect everyone in France to have a grasp of
English, no matter how basic.

From what I made of it, most French people are (rightly)
proud of their language and, aided and abetted by the
fiercely conservative Language Academy (who issue legally
binding directives in an attempt to keep the French language
"pure"), see no need to learn any English. This may, of
course, start to change fairly rapidly once the population
starts getting online in large numbers and realises that on
n'est pas dans un monde francophone...

 -Mike Ýhttp://games.hplx.net¨

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:02:38 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Peniel Romanelli 
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Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:46:59 -0500 (EST)

2 days 05h17m52s ago ...
On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> The current version (R.10) with English documentation is available at:
> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/index.htm
> both are also available on The SUPER.

Hey, Qman -

Have you tried XF R.11b5 yet?  Has an improved viewer system, but
several bugs.  Sent reports to Toshiki & Nakagawa-san.  Best new
feature is the multiple file open.  If you use PE or VDE or any
program that allows several open files R.11 will start the program,
and open all the marked files.  Most bugs are in the viewer, not the
main prog.  I've been using it for almost a month.

Later

Peniel
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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:36:03 -0500
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              S_Carder@COMPUSERVE.COM
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> > I tried using EMS for my swap space, but all of the programs I have
> > that use EMS didn't share well.  If I started up another program that
> > used EMS, I wouldn't have enough left for SC to work well.  So, I
> > leave the EMS for the other programs and make SC use a disk file =
only.
>
> What other programs do you run?  I've never had any problems like =
that...

Programs that use EMS on my system are: SC, a game called Many Faces of =
Go, and
a compression/archive program called Rar.  The main problem was that each =
of
the second two takes a lot of EMS if it is available.  So, when I would =
run one
of them, SC would not have enough EMS to use for swap space.  One solution
would have been to set aside a really huge EMS space, but that would take =
up
more disk space than having a modest EMS space and SC swapping to a disk =
file.

I get 1 second swaps with my current set up, so improving my SC swap =
speed
isn't going to gain much.

Steve Carder

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:28:25 -0600
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" 
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Subject:      Ica client
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Has anyone tried running citrix ica client for dos 16bit on the hp200lx
connected through dial up or network card?

Regards,

Tim Kelley
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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 04:31:55 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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> Is it possible to browse the web at 19.2?  Is 19.2 adequate?

Almost anything is possible! (g)  I cruised (well, snail-paced it at
2400 baud as an experiment.  Actually, I believe some ISP's will not
allow you to log in at slow speeds.  I tried CIS and could not log in at
2400 baud using a dun but could on AT&T.

So you can probably do it at 19.2.  And seriously, adequacy is up to you.
For somethings it may be quite adequate - for others like downloading
or too much graphics you might go crazy.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:54:09 -0800
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              Curtis Cameron 
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Organization: None
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Peter Maddern wrote:
>I've seen programmes on SUPER to convert the MS Outlook appointments
>over to LX appointments. Has anyone come up with a converter for HPLX
>appointments to Outlook?

The contacts converter that I've done also converts appointments. With
ToDo's (Outlook "Tasks"), there is still a bug that no items are
marked as completed, but the appointments works pretty well.

It's available at http://cameron.hplx.net

-Curtis Cameron

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:57:32 -0800
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              Curtis Cameron 
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From:         Curtis Cameron 
Organization: None
Subject:      Re: pkzip2.50 vs. winzip-command-line (off-topic)
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Mark Willis wrote:
>Curtis Cameron wrote:
>> However, pkzip 2.50 has different command line switches, and it's
>> missing the equivalent of the "-a+" switch to turn off the archive
>> attribute after zipping. I sent an e-mail to the pkzip folks asking
>> 
>
>An alternate would be to use Attrib -a- *.* after zipping.  That'd do
>the job.

Since I'm using it for backing up my PC, I have a list of directories
and files, in a file called BACKUP.TXT, and a list of ones to exclude
in EXCLUDE.TXT. I need the zip program to turn off the archive bit for
the files it zips, which are scattered around the disk.

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Date:         Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:07:27 -0500
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              John J Vanderstel 
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From:         John J Vanderstel 
Subject:      Re: pkzip2.50 vs. winzip-command-line (off-topic)

Hi Curtis,

>I thought others here might be interested in this, and to know that
>there's an alternative available from the WinZip folks.

Thanks for the info, Curtis. It IS remarkably incredible that the pkzip
folks actually forgot to include such a critical feature as archive bit
setting and resetting in their latest version!

It's rather sad to hear that they too are loosing touch with their
customers.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

________________________________________________________________
YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!
Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 02:12:00 -0800
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From:         "Quinton Jones, Jr." 
Subject:      Re: X-Finder Server was Re: Data Transfers
Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli 

Hey Buddy,

I'm not sure of the version number, but
I did try them both and had some problems.

I'll take another look, maybe they've been
update since my last download.


----Original Message-----
   >From:       Peniel Romanelli 
   >To:         HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
   >Subject:            Re: X-Finder Server was Re: Data Transfers
   >Reply-To:           HPLX Mailing List ,Peniel Romanelli 
   >Date:       Sunday, January 30, 2000 4:02 PM
   >
   >Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:46:59 -0500 (EST)
   >
   >2 days 05h17m52s ago ...
   >On Fri, 28 Jan 2000, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:
   >
   >> The current version (R.10) with English documentation is available at:
   >> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/alpha/beta/xf/index.htm
   >> both are also available on The SUPER.
   >
   >Hey, Qman -
   >
   >Have you tried XF R.11b5 yet?  Has an improved viewer system, but
   >several bugs.  Sent reports to Toshiki & Nakagawa-san.  Best new
   >feature is the multiple file open.  If you use PE or VDE or any
   >program that allows several open files R.11 will start the program,
   >and open all the marked files.  Most bugs are in the viewer, not the
   >main prog.  I've been using it for almost a month.
   >
   >Later
   >
   >Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 05:26:34 -0500
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Daniel Hertrich 
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From:         Daniel Hertrich 
Subject:      Re: It was I...
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Hi Winfried,

Winfried Zettelmeyer wrote:
> nur eine Kleinigkeit: Vergangenheit von lehren
> = gelehrt = taught (nicht teached).

oops, sorry ;-)

I never wanted to say that I'm a perfect English speaker.

GTX
daniel

--

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 06:01:53 -0500
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              Tom Salwasser 
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Many thanks to Jim Westley for suggesting www.watlow.com as a source for =
pc
controlled temperature measurement devices.

Also, Patrick West suggested www2.vsi.net/waetjen/onset  for similar
devices. They are both really interesting and worth a look. I'm researchi=
ng
these options now.

Thanks guys!

Tom Salwasser

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:05:55 -0000
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              "Brown, William" 
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I believe the ICA client requires better than CGA.

William D.Ll.Brown

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All-

When Jeff wrote about the 56K Modem a couple of weeks ago I was into upgrading
my desktop modem, so the timing was perfect. I also bought one from Thaddeus
(thanks Hal!) and recieved it this weekend. It works like a champ and the
downloads are noticeably faster. I never really used WWW/LX for browsing the
web, as I thought it was too slow, but may have to give it another swing...
Though browsing with acolor display and a Pentium laptop is still better, and
the modem fills that need as well.

Again, thanks to Hal, Mack, and Jeff for their development of this.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 05:57:37 -0700
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              Bob Christopher 
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I was reading the archives and came across the thread pertaining to changing
the default screen font on the 200LX. There was a mention of LXFONT. Where
do I find that program? Also, can any TTF font be translated for use on the
LX?
I would very much like to have the Verdana font translated. Thanks.

  Bob

Bob Christopher                         Littleton, Colorado USA
email mailto:bc@chisp.net          website http://chisp.net/~bc

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:06:10 -0500
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On:    Fri, 28 Jan 2000 Tim wrote:
"Subject: Pocket Quicken - Any advice?

Quick howdy to those who use a Windows Ýi.e. 2000¨ version of Quicken and
the PocketQuicken, built into the 200LX.

How do you folks use them in conjunction w/ each other?.........

Do those who use it just send QIF files to their palmtop and use that for a
portable reference, or do you often synch items done on the LX into the
windows version?"

I have used Pocket Quicken for years and downloaded the file to Quicken using
Pocket
Connect.       I use Pocket Quicken as the first point of data entry to record a
transaction - on most
occasions.      I find it easier ( and more timely) to enter the transactions
into the 200LX instead of directly
in the desktop Quicken.       I then use Pocket connect to download those
transactions to
the desktop where I usually perform my monthly balancing, reconnect to sync the
balances.
Since there is no true sync of the files on the 200lx and the desktop,    I do
not rely on the 200lx to
have all the data - just the last 30-60 days worth.
BTW, I found out the hard way that you need to trim the file on the 200lx
regularly since the file size can
not be reduced - it can only increase.     (if there is a way to reduce the file
size I have not found it)

Hope this answers your questions.
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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:19:43 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
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Brian,

> When Jeff wrote about the 56K Modem a couple of weeks ago I was into =
upgrading
> my desktop modem, so the timing was perfect. I also bought one from =
Thaddeus
> (thanks Hal!) and recieved it this weekend. It works like a champ and =
the
> downloads are noticeably faster. I never really used WWW/LX for browsing=
 the
> web, as I thought it was too slow, but may have to give it another =
swing...
> Though browsing with acolor display and a Pentium laptop is still =
better, and
> the modem fills that need as well.
>
> Again, thanks to Hal, Mack, and Jeff for their development of this.

I did some repeated testing with 56K modems. The power consumption is
higher than I experienced using a 33.6K modem.

Reproduceable values I achieved:

      33.6K          56K

    32000 DTE     40000 DTE

I never could achieve 48000 to 49000 DTE (which were reported by Jeff)
to my ISPs which are attglobal.net, compuserve.net and t-online.de.

Regards

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:26:33 +0100
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              "Guenther Helmuth E." 
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I like to display the DTE modem speed unsing DOSPPP.

My chatscr looks like this:

ABORT ERROR ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO DIALTONE'
ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT RING
REPORT CONNECT
TIMEOUT 10
'' ATZ
OK AT&FX3M0W2
OK ATDTphoneno
TIMEOUT 60
CONNECT

I can see connect, but no DTE speed.

What do I wrong?

Any ideas?

Regards

Helmuth

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:46:30 -0600
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I have to agree with that but more imporant, I think, is the intrinsic value
of backlighting to a lot of users.

The lx is highly readable in good light but in even mediocre light it's
difficult to read.  And impossible in poor light.

Before I retired this was often a problem to me.  It meant not using the
palmtop in a lot of situations where it would otherwise have been useful.  I
would have gladly paid $200 or even more to solve that problem.

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The adapters are readilly available for between $10 and $15.  CDW carries
them and I'll be surprised if Thaddeus doesnt also cary them.

By the way, I've found that the compact flash with the adapter is a much
nicer setup than the full size flash card.  Readers for PC's for the compact
flash are available all over.  I got mine at Best Buy for $49 if I remember
correctly.   I had my choice between parallel and USB models.   It's made by
Sandisk so I know it's probably pretty good.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:20:29 -0500
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              Peniel Romanelli 
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Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:04:23 -0500 (EST)

02h01m27s ago ...
On Mon, 31 Jan 2000, Bob Christopher wrote:

> I was reading the archives and came across the thread pertaining to =
changing
> the default screen font on the 200LX. There was a mention of LXFONT. =
Where
> do I find that program? Also, can any TTF font be translated for use on =
the
> LX?
> I would very much like to have the Verdana font translated. Thanks.

AFAIK - Lxfont is one of a whole bunch of font loaders for the palmtop.
the SUPER site has a file called "fontstuff" or something similar that
has a lot of the loaders.  Just do a search for "fonts" and you should
find it.

I don't know of a way to translate TTF fonts to the LX format.  Maybe
someone has found a way, though.  The LX fonts are bit-mapped and not
scaleable.

Finally, if you want, I have my own loader that works well for my
aging eyeballs 8-)  If you want it I'll send it.


Later,

Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:39:27 -0600
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" 
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Subject:      Re: Synching HPLX appointments over to MS Outlook
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I noticed the Calendar sync only goes from the hp to outlook, and the
outlook to hp is greyed out.  Is there any chance of that being made
available soon?

-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Cameron Ýmailto:curtc@AIRMAIL.NET¨
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 1:54 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: Synching HPLX appointments over to MS Outlook


Peter Maddern wrote:
>I've seen programmes on SUPER to convert the MS Outlook appointments
>over to LX appointments. Has anyone come up with a converter for HPLX
>appointments to Outlook?

The contacts converter that I've done also converts appointments. With
ToDo's (Outlook "Tasks"), there is still a bug that no items are
marked as completed, but the appointments works pretty well.

It's available at http://cameron.hplx.net

-Curtis Cameron

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              Steve Novosad 
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 David Sargeant wrote;
> Well, let's find out.  How many people on the list are buying extra
> palmtops to put away in case they're unavailable later?

David;

   I bought my first unit, a 4 meg unit with extra power
supplies, the C-Pack, and a flash card.  Then I subscribed
to this list.  At about that time (or a little later) someone
posted that Service Merchandise were discontinuing the
200LX'es.  I went to one, and they had a display model (2 meg)
for sale.  At 15% off the sale price, due to no box or manual,
I justified buying it as a "Backup" unit.  After paying list or
close to list price for the first one, I got carried away.  I'll
probably get it upgraded.  However, my usage of the 200LX is
very low compared to most of us on the list.  I got the first
one without even really knowing about the built in applications
(except Lotus 1-2-3 which WAS a factor).  DOS in your pocket was
my reason to buy it.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:37:48 +0100
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Subject:      Re: PCMCIA Disks & Name brand Sandisks Available
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Please reserve (2) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II
I wiil sent 65+5$ shipping as done earler.

please confirm

Etienne, Belgium
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> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: PCMCIA Disks & Name brand Sandisks Available
> Date: samedi 29 janvier 2000 18:48
>
> I  have (7) 20 Meg PCMCIA Flash Disks ATA Type II available. They are
> in excellent condition. They have only been used a  very few times on
> testing a couple new prototype products at work. I sell (1) 20 Meg
> PCMCIA disk for $35.00 plus $5.00 shipping and I sell (2) disks for
> $65.00 plus $5.00 shipping. I accept Money Orders Only!  I also have (5)
>
> 20 Meg name brand Sandisks for sale. I sell (1) 20 Meg Sandisk for
> $40.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. and I sell (2) 20 Meg
> Sandisks for $75.00 plus $5.00 shipping and You can send payment  to my
> address at:
>
>
> Scott Moore
> 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street
> Beaverton, Or 97006
>
> I will email you back  the  same day I receive your payment and let you
> know
> that your disks our on the way. I always send out next day unless I
> receive your payment on a Saturday and then I will send them out on
> Monday. Please email me and let me if you are interested and when you
> are sending payment so I can hold your disks for you. The response has
> been tremendous and the people I have worked with on this group have
> been really  great.   Thanks alot!    Scott
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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:50:03 -0600
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              "Kelley, Timothy P" 
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I just went to their web page and didnt see it listed.  do you have a link
to the page with the 56k modem on?

-----Original Message-----
From: Guenther Helmuth E. Ýmailto:h_e_guenther@ATTGLOBAL.NET¨
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 8:20 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Re: New 56K Modem from Thaddeus


Brian,

> When Jeff wrote about the 56K Modem a couple of weeks ago I was into
upgrading
> my desktop modem, so the timing was perfect. I also bought one from
Thaddeus
> (thanks Hal!) and recieved it this weekend. It works like a champ and the
> downloads are noticeably faster. I never really used WWW/LX for browsing
the
> web, as I thought it was too slow, but may have to give it another
swing...
> Though browsing with acolor display and a Pentium laptop is still better,
and
> the modem fills that need as well.
>
> Again, thanks to Hal, Mack, and Jeff for their development of this.

I did some repeated testing with 56K modems. The power consumption is
higher than I experienced using a 33.6K modem.

Reproduceable values I achieved:

      33.6K          56K

    32000 DTE     40000 DTE

I never could achieve 48000 to 49000 DTE (which were reported by Jeff)
to my ISPs which are attglobal.net, compuserve.net and t-online.de.

Regards

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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT --13CC" 
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Subject:      Re: Pocket Quicken
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Thanks Joe!!

Quick Question:

>I have used Pocket Quicken for years and downloaded the file to Quicken
using
>Pocket Connect.

Is Pocket Connect a 3rd Party software?

I didn't see it in the Q2000 Deluxe menu; but I'm still hunting for things
there.

I've been exporting .QIF files from the Win program and then importing them
into the PocketQuicken. Haven't tried it the other way yet; would like to!

Ýwell would like to, if I can make it work w/o ruining my data¨.

Thanks again!

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:41:00 -0500
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              Brian McIlvaine 
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I am using TC 1.01 on an HPLX palmtop (I have TC++ 3.0 and it works fine on
my desktop,
but would like to be able to run the compiler on the laptop vice
transferring files). The specific appliaction requires paragraph alignment
for EXM development.

I have a specific problem with linking in the above IDE. I need to ensure
that the _DATA portion of the code is PARAGRAPH aligned. Currently it
appears to be word aligned, as its address in the linker map file is:

Start       Stop         Length    Name                         Class
01564H 01CEBH 00788H _DATA                        DATA

Does anyone have an idea about how to go about correcting this?

Thank you.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:54:11 -0800
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Folks,

my top wish list item is a tool to allow me to use the
phonebook's extract and merge features to send selected item
to a Palm Pilot phonebook or receive selected items from a
palm pilot phonebook via the  IR port.

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:21:21 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Help with Turbo C Linker
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> I have a specific problem with linking in the above IDE. I need to ensure
> that the _DATA portion of the code is PARAGRAPH aligned. Currently it
> appears to be word aligned, as its address in the linker map file is:

When you run the TCINST program, you can specify the alignment boundary.
The manual says that its under the CODE GENERATION option.

Also, if you compile with TCC, you can specify the -a option for
word alignment (byte-alignemtn is default, apparently).

 I see, after re-reading your question, you want PARAGRAPH alignment.
My copy of the manual is mute on this point.  The only reference I
see is that the allocmem function seems to get a memory segment that
is paragraph aligned.  I don't see any compiler directives, for example,
that control this.  Nor any linker options.  I know exactly what you
want to do, and have seen these options on many linkers in the
past.  I'll ask my partners later today and see if they know how
to do this in Borland's linker.

-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:47:55 -0600
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              Hal Goldstein 
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Actually, we haven't put in on our web site yet. We will be sending out the
catalog in a week or so and will update our web site about the same time.
This was a "pre-announcement" only on this list.  You can purchase one of
these modems now for $99.95 plus $5 shipping, U.S., $12 outside U.S.  You
can order at orders@thaddeus.com, fax: 515 472 1879 or call 800 373 6114 or
515 472 6330.

Hal at Thaddeus

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Did you use the modem command sequence Jeff and Mack identified that we put
in our docs, or was that unnecessary?

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:36:19 -0500
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Daniel wrote:

> Hi Martin,

Hello there..

> Martin Bergvill wrote:
> > I am not sure if I would like Software Carousel. It seems as a
> > dangerous setup with a lot of open files in several workareas. I try a
> > lot of different setups all the time which often results booting.
>
> Yes, that's really a problem. If you hang one work area and you have to
> _warm boot_, it's no probelm. SC allows you to just boot one work area.
> If you press Ctrl-Alt-Del, SC pops up with a message "Are you sure you
> want to boot" to prevent you from booting the whole machine
> accidentally. If you want to boot one area, you have to press the
> hotkey for SC's "Menu" and then you can kill the program in one work
> area.

Thanks for your reply. This boot feature sounds good to prevent "bad"
boots. I have in the meantime  found out what caused my Hplx to
freeze up. Playex is not compatible with something in my autoexec.bat.
I am not sure what.. I removed Playex and it no does not freeze up
after a ethernet connection anymore.

> But if your LX hangs and needs a _cold reboot_, you can't work around
> it.

Okey I see..

> I have a menu in my autoexec.bat that allows to choose between:
>
> 1. chkdsk all drives
> 2. DOS prompt, without loading SC
> 3. load SC
> 4. backup C: to A:

I have started to use 200 Y.a.p.l again. I have a similiar setup.

> I boot my whole system every few days, so the menu will pop up and I
> make (1), then (4). then I'm ready to reload SC by pressing (3).

Okey I see. Is it possible to automate chkdsk? I do the same in my
"night" backup batch file.

SC: What do you have in the different SC sessions? I usually want to
have Notebook/Appoitmentbook/Phonebook and Post/lx open at once. What
do you have open, if you do not mind me asking?

> Before I boot, I switch to every work area and close the application
> inside it).

When you exits a area are you then "down" to dosprompt or do you
terminate that session by closing it?

Okey I see. You have Volkon Commander in one and Lxtel in another.
Then maybe phonebook/appoitmentbook/notebooks/Postlx in others?

> I live with this setup now for almost one year, and it is very
> satisfying for me! :-)

I have lived without this, but I am now considering if this is
something I would like..but I am not sure because I do the thing below
now..and it works..

I have today started to use another setup after a tip from a german
lurker on this list. I have developed the tip a little..

I boot my Hp then choose either Sysmgr or Post/lx from the 200 Yapl
menu. I then can choose 200/Sysmgr from the external menu in Post/lx
(also with a macro).

This gives me Sysmgr/Applicationmgr with the ability to run 4 of the
pim's (if I close Filer). I can also start a Maxdos session if I want
or any dosprograms. If I run Dosboot/Terminate I am back to Post/lx again.

(If I run Post/lx from the Apllicationmgr I can start just one extra
application if I close Filer.)

I have tested this setup today and it is stable. I can even start
Post/lx again from Applivationmgr with maxdos if I want. And have two
"open" at the same time. (No switching of course..)

This is maybe a "poor mans" Software Carousel..:-))

The switching (/terminating) is pretty fast. The only thing I have to
remember is to always leave my Hplx in the Apllicationsmgr for the
Appoitmentbook to work.

I have a macro in Post/lx to start 200 and use Dosboot to exit back
again. If I exit Post/lx I am back to the 200 Yapl menu and can choose
Sysmgr if I want.

The only "bad" thing is that if I start Post/lx and then Sysmgr Buddy
does not work. It works inside Post/lx but not when I start 200. Also
the "switching" from Sysmgr to Post/lx is a bit slow since Post/lx runs
true all the folders.

(Yes I know I am a config junky..:-))

--
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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re: holographic 100lx test screen (which I also tested and kind of liked
but it had flaws Ed described, too!!!)

> Is this the same screen that was used on the Omnigo 120 series Palmtops?
>

YES!

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:34:28 -0500
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> I remember in the early nineties there was a DOS-program you could check =
> the condition of a 286 DOS machine,among other things it checked was the =
> condition of the harddisk etc
> Isn't there any program like that to check a secondhand HP200?
>
Yes, and it is already inside the HP200.

Hold down the ÝEsc¨ key while turning the palmtop Ýon¨. You will see a menu of
built-in tests.

***WARNING!***
If you have a flash card in the palmtop, DO NOT select "Test all", and DO NOT
run the test named "Plug-in RAM card" - it can permanently destroy your flash
card data. This test is meant for older SRAM cards *only*.

- To test the Display, select it and press ÝEnter¨, then press any key
repeatedly to see the different screens.
- To test the Keyboard, select it and press ÝEnter¨, then press each key from
left to right and top to bottom, so you begin with the ÝEsc¨ key and end with -
the Ý+¨ key.
- You cannot test the Wire serial port, because you need a special loop-back
cable for this.
- To test the Batteries, just select it and press ÝEnter¨.
- To test the RAM, select it and press ÝEnter¨ or press ÝCtrl¨ÝEnter¨ for a more
extensive test. This test will take several minutes.
- To test the ROM, select it and press ÝEnter¨.
- To test the IR serial port, select it and press ÝEnter¨.
- To test the Timers, select it and press ÝEnter¨.
- Remember not to test the Plug-in RAM card!

Press ÝEsc¨ to end test mode - the palmtop will reboot.

I hope this helps.
Bruce in Toronto

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:59:59 -0600
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I am starting to use my Pocket Quicken with my desktop, and have
followed the threads here with interest.  I have purchased a copy
of Pocket Quicken Connect, which seems to be a one-way path solution.
I read with interest the idea of using QIF files to update your files
in both directions, and will try that tonight.

Could we collect all the information about PQ and PQC and QIF and
various interface issues in one place?  Maybe on SUPER or on a web
site?  If someone can provide the content, I'll be glad to host the
page.


I have PQ, obviously, on my palmtop.  Also a DOS ver 7 of Quicken
that I used to run on my desktop.  My latest computer came with
Quicken 98 for Windows, and I just downloaded a y2k-patched version
of Quicken for Windows from the Intuit website last night for free.
I would really like to get these to play together, if possible.

One feature I find helpful in the Windows version of Quicken is
that it uses the TRIP-field we have on PQ.  I couldn't figure out
how to use this on PQ (other than entering it) or DOSv7.  But on
the Windows version, I can generate a report showing all expenses
relating to a certain "TRIP", even if those expenses span expense
categories.

Finally, what are the advantages of running a full DOS Quicken, say
this ver 7 that I have, on my palmtop?  I see from some posts that
at least one of you are doing just that.  How have you found this
more helpful than plain PQ?

-Chris

Is there any long-range plans at Intuit or their competitors
for a replacement product to the PQ and PQC family?  I have studied
family financial management and helped lead several classes at my
church, and this is just an *ideal* tool for tracking expenses.  It
just amazes me that they have discontinued it, without any clear
replacement.  Maybe they don't want people keeping *that* close a
track of their money???  Any thoughts on this decision?

--

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Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc.
3112 12th Ave S.W.                                   PHONE: 256-534-9067
Huntsville, Alabama 35805                              FAX: 256-534-9069
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Date:         Tue, 1 Feb 2000 01:13:54 +0000
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              Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE
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The DOC file says about the new version:

Version 3.0  -Hotkey changed to Ctrl-A
(01-FEB-00)  -User defined double click list added.
             -Key 6 is predefined to double click '
             -Double click after '-' allowed
             -Automatic capitalization after quoted sentences
             -No automatic capitalization after colon
             -/I switch automatically capitalizes single i
             -/N switch disables automatic capitalization
             -character 'mix up' bug fixed

Download from:

http://peichl.hplx.net/autocaps.zip

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Date:         Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:04:34 +1300
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Hi Listers.

Does anyone know if it is still possible to buy
QuickBasic version 3?
If not, any suggestions where I might find it?

Cheers...Roger Whitmarsh

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Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:32:45 -0500
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              Mike Schneider 
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You might try e-bay. Also you can still buy PowerBasic, which is still
being distributed.

Mike...

P.S. My personal fav is QuickBasic 4.5

Roger Whitmarsh wrote:

> Hi Listers.
>
> Does anyone know if it is still possible to buy
> QuickBasic version 3?
> If not, any suggestions where I might find it?
>
> Cheers...Roger Whitmarsh
>
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Bruce Martin wrote:
>
> > I remember in the early nineties there was a DOS-program you could check =
> > the condition of a 286 DOS machine,among other things it checked was the =
> > condition of the harddisk etc
> > Isn't there any program like that to check a secondhand HP200?
> >
> Yes, and it is already inside the HP200.
>
> Hold down the ÝEsc¨ key while turning the palmtop Ýon¨. You will see a menu of
> built-in tests.
>
> ***WARNING!***
> If you have a flash card in the palmtop, DO NOT select "Test all", and DO NOT
> run the test named "Plug-in RAM card" - it can permanently destroy your flash
> card data. This test is meant for older SRAM cards *only*.
>
> - To test the Display, select it and press ÝEnter¨, then press any key
> repeatedly to see the different screens.
> - To test the Keyboard, select it and press ÝEnter¨, then press each key from
> left to right and top to bottom, so you begin with the ÝEsc¨ key and end with -
> the Ý+¨ key.
> - You cannot test the Wire serial port, because you need a special loop-back
> cable for this.
> - To test the Batteries, just select it and press ÝEnter¨.
> - To test the RAM, select it and press ÝEnter¨ or press ÝCtrl¨ÝEnter¨ for a more
> extensive test. This test will take several minutes.
> - To test the ROM, select it and press ÝEnter¨.
> - To test the IR serial port, select it and press ÝEnter¨.
> - To test the Timers, select it and press ÝEnter¨.
> - Remember not to test the Plug-in RAM card!
>
> Press ÝEsc¨ to end test mode - the palmtop will reboot.
>
> I hope this helps.
> Bruce in Toronto
>
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Yes Bruce is correct, but you can test the wire serial port if you have
a 9 pin serial cable that comes with the HP CONNECTIVITY PACK. One
end plugs into 200lx the other end is a 9 pin serial plug I FORGOT THE
PIN NUMBER (I will get back with you on that on 1 OF FEB 2000) but all
you have to do is to have a paper clip open both ends into to form a
loop
plug one end into a #pin and the other into another #pin. as I said
before I will have the location of the pin numbers tomorrow 1th feb 2000

                         Bob1

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Date:         Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:36:58 +1300
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Mike Schneider wrote:
>You might try e-bay. Also you can still buy PowerBasic, which is still
>being distributed.
>P.S. My personal fav is QuickBasic 4.5

Will PowerBasic and/or QB 4.5 run on the 200LX?

Cheers, Roger

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